Q4 2025 Boston Beer Co Inc Earnings Call

February 24, 2026

Speaker #1: Greetings, and welcome to the Boston Beer Company Q4, 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Operator: Greetings, and welcome to The Boston Beer Company Q4 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Michael Andrews, Associate General Counsel and Corporate Secretary. Thank you, Mike. You may begin.

Speaker #1: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. And please note that this conference is being recorded.

Speaker #1: I will now turn the conference over to Mike Andrews, Associate General Counsel and Corporate Secretary. Thank you, Mike. You may begin.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Good afternoon and welcome. This is Mike Andrews, associate general counsel and corporate secretary of the Boston Beer Company. I'm pleased to kick off our 2025 Q4 earnings call.

Michael Andrews: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome. This is Michael Andrews, Associate General Counsel and Corporate Secretary of The Boston Beer Company. I'm pleased to kick off our 2025 Q4 Earnings Call. Joining the call from Boston Beer are Jim Koch, Founder, CEO, and Chairman, and Diego Reynoso, our CFO. Before we discuss our business, I'll start with our disclaimer. As we state in our earnings release, some of the information we discuss and that may come up on this call reflects the company's or management's expectations or predictions of the future. Such predictions are forward-looking statements. It's important to note that the company's actual results could differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements is contained in the company's most recent Form 10-Q and Form 10-K.

Speaker #2: Joining the call from Boston Beer are Jim Cook, founder/CEO and chairman, and Diego Reynoso, our CFO. Before we discuss our business, I'll start with our disclaimer.

Speaker #2: As we state in our earnings release, some of the information we discuss—and that may come up on this call—reflects the company's or management's expectations or predictions of the future.

Speaker #2: Such predictions are forward-looking statements. It's important to note that the company's actual results could differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements is contained in the company's most recent 10-Q and 10-K.

Speaker #2: The company does not undertake to publicly update forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. I will now pass it over to Jim to share his comments.

Michael Andrews: The company does not undertake to publicly update forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. I will now pass it over to Jim to share his comments.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Mike. I'll begin my remarks this afternoon with an overview of our strategy and operating results before turning the call over to Diego to discuss our supply chain, Q4 results, and 2026 financial outlook.

Jim Koch: Thanks, Mike. I'll begin my remarks this afternoon with an overview of our strategy and operating results before turning the call over to Diego to discuss our supply chain, Q4 results, and 2026 financial outlook. Immediately following Diego's comments, we'll open the line for questions. As I look back on 2025, I'm pleased with how our operational discipline enabled us to deliver on our financial commitments in a challenging industry volume environment. Our 2025 depletions were down 4%, in line with the overall beer industry. Our disciplined, fewer things, better innovation approach drove a successful national launch of Sun Cruiser, which is both revenue and margin accretive. Efficiency improvements across our breweries and our productivity agenda drove 410 basis points of gross margin expansion, allowing us to increase brand investment meaningfully.

James Koch: Thanks, Mike. I'll begin my remarks this afternoon with an overview of our strategy and operating results before turning the call over to Diego to discuss our supply chain, Q4 results, and 2026 financial outlook. Immediately following Diego's comments, we'll open the line for questions. As I look back on 2025, I'm pleased with how our operational discipline enabled us to deliver on our financial commitments in a challenging industry volume environment. Our 2025 depletions were down 4%, in line with the overall beer industry. Our disciplined, fewer things, better innovation approach drove a successful national launch of Sun Cruiser, which is both revenue and margin accretive. Efficiency improvements across our breweries and our productivity agenda drove 410 basis points of gross margin expansion, allowing us to increase brand investment meaningfully.

Speaker #3: Immediately following Diego's comments, we'll open the line for questions. As I look back on 2025, I'm pleased with how our operational discipline enabled us to deliver on our financial commitments in a challenging industry volume environment.

Speaker #3: Our 2025 depletions were down 4% in line with the overall beer industry. Our disciplined fewer-things-better innovation approach drove a successful national launch of SunCruiser, which is both revenue and margin accretive.

Speaker #3: Efficiency improvements across our breweries and our productivity agenda drove 410 basis points of gross margin expansion. Allowing us to increase brand investment meaningfully. Our business continued to be highly cash-generative, with 2025 free cash flow of $216 million or $19.72 per share, which allowed us to repurchase $200 million in shares in 2025.

Jim Koch: Our business continued to be highly cash generative, with 2025 free cash flow of $216 million or $19.72 per share, which allowed us to repurchase $200 million in shares in 2025. Looking ahead into 2026, we expect industry volume headwinds to continue. As I previously discussed, consumers are tightly managing their budgets given economic uncertainty. There is pressure on the Hispanic consumer. Moderation trends are also having an impact on demand. In certain states, hemp-derived beverages are competing for shelf space and drinkers, despite recent federal regulations, which restrict their availability after November 2026. We continue to see long-term growth opportunities in the Beyond Beer category, which is 85% of our total company volume and where we are the industry's second-largest player.

James Koch: Our business continued to be highly cash generative, with 2025 free cash flow of $216 million or $19.72 per share, which allowed us to repurchase $200 million in shares in 2025. Looking ahead into 2026, we expect industry volume headwinds to continue. As I previously discussed, consumers are tightly managing their budgets given economic uncertainty. There is pressure on the Hispanic consumer. Moderation trends are also having an impact on demand. In certain states, hemp-derived beverages are competing for shelf space and drinkers, despite recent federal regulations, which restrict their availability after November 2026. We continue to see long-term growth opportunities in the Beyond Beer category, which is 85% of our total company volume and where we are the industry's second-largest player.

Speaker #3: Looking ahead into 2026, we expect industry volume headwinds to continue. As I previously discussed, consumers are tightly managing their budgets given economic uncertainty, and there is pressure on the Hispanic consumer.

Speaker #3: Moderation trends are also having an impact on demand, and in certain states, hemp-derived beverages are competing for shelf space and drinkers, despite recent federal regulations which restrict their availability after November 2026.

Speaker #3: We continue to see long-term growth opportunities in the Beyond Beer category, which is 85% of our total company volume, and where we are the industry's second-largest player.

Speaker #3: From 2019 to 2025, driven by growth in hard tea and hard seltzers, the Beyond Beer category has doubled in volume and now represents 9% of total U.S.

Jim Koch: From 2019 to 2025, driven by growth in hard tea and hard seltzers, the Beyond Beer category has doubled in volume and now represents 9% of total US alcohol consumption. We expect that Beyond Beer's volume and share of the category will continue to grow as the drinker is younger and more diverse than traditional beer. We believe beer companies are the best positioned to service the Beyond Beer category as they have the production capabilities to produce these beverages, and beer wholesalers have the infrastructure to service them. The Boston Beer Company's innovation capabilities, manufacturing infrastructure, best-in-class sales force, and strong wholesaler relations provide a meaningful competitive advantage. This is reflected in the performance of Sun Cruiser, which was among the top volume gainers in RTD Spirits in 2025 and quickly scaled into a top 5 RTD Spirits brand.

James Koch: From 2019 to 2025, driven by growth in hard tea and hard seltzers, the Beyond Beer category has doubled in volume and now represents 9% of total US alcohol consumption. We expect that Beyond Beer's volume and share of the category will continue to grow as the drinker is younger and more diverse than traditional beer. We believe beer companies are the best positioned to service the Beyond Beer category as they have the production capabilities to produce these beverages, and beer wholesalers have the infrastructure to service them. The Boston Beer Company's innovation capabilities, manufacturing infrastructure, best-in-class sales force, and strong wholesaler relations provide a meaningful competitive advantage. This is reflected in the performance of Sun Cruiser, which was among the top volume gainers in RTD Spirits in 2025 and quickly scaled into a top 5 RTD Spirits brand.

Speaker #3: alcohol consumption. We expect the Beyond Beer's volume and share of the category will continue to grow as the drinker is younger and more diverse than traditional beer.

Speaker #3: We believe beer companies are best positioned to service the Beyond Beer category, as they have the production capabilities to produce these beverages, and beer wholesalers have the infrastructure to service them.

Speaker #3: The Boston Beer Company's innovation capabilities—manufacturing infrastructure, best-in-class sales force, and strong wholesaler relations—provide a meaningful competitive advantage. This is reflected in the performance of SunCruiser, which was among the top volume gainers in RTD Spirits in 2025 and quickly scaled into a top five RTD Spirits brand.

Speaker #3: However, we have seen greater competition in Beyond Beer as consumers seek variety and more players enter the category. Combined with economic uncertainty, this has been a headwind for our volume performance.

Jim Koch: However, we have seen greater competition in Beyond Beer as consumers seek variety and more players enter the category. Combined with economic uncertainty, this has been a headwind for our volume performance. We continue to believe that the macroeconomic environment is a significant driver of weaker alcohol consumption trends and the deceleration in our leading brand, Twisted Tea's performance. Our 2026 volume outlook of flat to down mid-single digits assumes that macroeconomic headwinds persist. We are highly focused on controlling what we can, maintaining or growing market share, and investing behind our brands to position us well for when the environment improves. Our priorities for the year will be supporting our full portfolio of brands through advertising and local in-market execution investments, developing margin-accretive innovation, and driving margin improvement through productivity.

James Koch: However, we have seen greater competition in Beyond Beer as consumers seek variety and more players enter the category. Combined with economic uncertainty, this has been a headwind for our volume performance. We continue to believe that the macroeconomic environment is a significant driver of weaker alcohol consumption trends and the deceleration in our leading brand, Twisted Tea's performance. Our 2026 volume outlook of flat to down mid-single digits assumes that macroeconomic headwinds persist. We are highly focused on controlling what we can, maintaining or growing market share, and investing behind our brands to position us well for when the environment improves. Our priorities for the year will be supporting our full portfolio of brands through advertising and local in-market execution investments, developing margin-accretive innovation, and driving margin improvement through productivity.

Speaker #3: We continue to believe that the macroeconomic environment is a significant driver of weaker alcohol consumption trends and the deceleration in our leading brand Twisted Tea's performance.

Speaker #3: Our 2026 volume outlook—a flat to down mid-single digits—assumes that macroeconomic headwinds persist. We are highly focused on controlling what we can, maintaining or growing market share, and investing behind our brands to position us well for when the environment improves.

Speaker #3: Our priorities for the year will be supporting our full portfolio of brands through advertising and local in-market execution investments, developing margin accretive innovation, and driving margin improvement through productivity.

Speaker #3: We continue to believe that sustained brand investment is the right strategy to drive volume improvement over time. Building on our initiatives, we began in 2025, we will continue reinvesting in our brands with new creative additional compelling partnerships, activation around key events including the World Cup, and investing alongside our whole sailors in local market activation.

Jim Koch: We continue to believe that sustained brand investment is the right strategy to drive volume improvement over time. Building on our initiatives we began in 2025, we will continue reinvesting in our brands with new creative, additional compelling partnerships, activation around key events, including the World Cup, and investing alongside our wholesalers in local market activation. We are partnering with some of our wholesalers to increase local brand building capabilities and improve execution on the shelf. This includes shared development of grassroots marketing plans and on-premise promotions, sampling, local radio, and billboard advertising. With respect to innovation, we continue to prioritize high-growth, margin-accretive opportunities. In 2026, we are focused on scaling Sun Cruiser in its second year of national availability, while expanding the distribution of Sinless Vodka Cocktails to additional states following a successful test launch in 2025.

James Koch: We continue to believe that sustained brand investment is the right strategy to drive volume improvement over time. Building on our initiatives we began in 2025, we will continue reinvesting in our brands with new creative, additional compelling partnerships, activation around key events, including the World Cup, and investing alongside our wholesalers in local market activation. We are partnering with some of our wholesalers to increase local brand building capabilities and improve execution on the shelf. This includes shared development of grassroots marketing plans and on-premise promotions, sampling, local radio, and billboard advertising. With respect to innovation, we continue to prioritize high-growth, margin-accretive opportunities. In 2026, we are focused on scaling Sun Cruiser in its second year of national availability, while expanding the distribution of Sinless Vodka Cocktails to additional states following a successful test launch in 2025.

Speaker #3: We're re partnering with some of our wholesalers to increase local brand billing capabilities and improve execution on the shelf. This includes shared development of grassroots marketing plans and on-premise promotions sampling local radio and billboard advertising.

Speaker #3: With respect to innovation, we continue to prioritize high-growth, margin-accretive opportunities. In 2026, we are focused on scaling SunCruiser in its second year of national availability, while expanding the distribution of Sinless Vodka Cocktails to additional states following a successful test launch in 2025.

Speaker #3: Sinless is a very lightly carbonated, vodka-based RTD cocktail with zero sugar, zero carbs, and less than 100 calories per can. It is positioned as guilty of flavor, free of sugar and carbs, and targets incremental consumer segments that complement our core brand portfolio.

Jim Koch: Sinless is a very lightly carbonated, vodka-based RTD cocktail with zero sugar, zero carbs, and less than 100 calories per can. It is positioned as guilty of flavor, free of sugar and carbs, and targets incremental consumer segments that complement our core brand portfolio. We've made strong progress across our margin enhancement initiatives, which Diego will discuss further in his remarks. This has been a multiyear effort across the organization, and I'm pleased that we've delivered margin improvement faster than we expected in this difficult operating environment. In addition to margin improvement, these initiatives have enabled us to achieve record-high customer service levels in 2025 and lower our inventory days on hand. Our efforts across procurement savings, brewery efficiency, and waste and network optimization will continue in 2026, and we're also in the early stages of adding revenue management capabilities to provide further long-term margin benefit.

James Koch: Sinless is a very lightly carbonated, vodka-based RTD cocktail with zero sugar, zero carbs, and less than 100 calories per can. It is positioned as guilty of flavor, free of sugar and carbs, and targets incremental consumer segments that complement our core brand portfolio. We've made strong progress across our margin enhancement initiatives, which Diego will discuss further in his remarks. This has been a multiyear effort across the organization, and I'm pleased that we've delivered margin improvement faster than we expected in this difficult operating environment. In addition to margin improvement, these initiatives have enabled us to achieve record-high customer service levels in 2025 and lower our inventory days on hand. Our efforts across procurement savings, brewery efficiency, and waste and network optimization will continue in 2026, and we're also in the early stages of adding revenue management capabilities to provide further long-term margin benefit.

Speaker #3: We've made strong progress across our margin enhancement initiatives, which Diego will discuss further in his remarks. This has been a multi-year effort across the organization, and I'm pleased that we've delivered margin improvement faster than we expected in this difficult operating environment.

Speaker #3: In addition to margin improvement, these initiatives have enabled us to achieve record-high customer service levels in 2025 and lower our inventory days on hand.

Speaker #3: Our efforts across procurement savings, brewery efficiency, and waste and network optimization will continue in 2026, and we're also in the early stages of adding revenue management capabilities to provide further long-term margin benefit.

Speaker #3: I'll now provide an overview of our brand performance and plans for 2026. In terms of depletions, we're encouraged by the strong consumer reception to SunCruiser, a third consecutive quarter of growth in Angry Orchard and Dogfish Head, and positive drinker reception to our higher ABV offerings.

Jim Koch: I'll now provide an overview of our brand performance and plans for 2026. In terms of depletions, we're encouraged by the strong consumer reception to Sun Cruiser, a third consecutive quarter of growth in Angry Orchard and Dogfish Head, and positive drinker reception to our higher ABV offerings. Our larger brands continue to be impacted by the headwinds I discussed earlier, particularly Twisted Tea, that overindexes with lower-income households and Hispanic drinkers. After starting the 2025 year with growth, Twisted Tea was down 6% in dollar sales in measured off-premise channels for the full year 2025, in an FMB category that was down 4%. The brand gained distribution in 2025, but declined in velocities, driven by category headwinds, a decline in features and displays, and some interaction with Sun Cruiser and its competitors.

James Koch: I'll now provide an overview of our brand performance and plans for 2026. In terms of depletions, we're encouraged by the strong consumer reception to Sun Cruiser, a third consecutive quarter of growth in Angry Orchard and Dogfish Head, and positive drinker reception to our higher ABV offerings. Our larger brands continue to be impacted by the headwinds I discussed earlier, particularly Twisted Tea, that overindexes with lower-income households and Hispanic drinkers. After starting the 2025 year with growth, Twisted Tea was down 6% in dollar sales in measured off-premise channels for the full year 2025, in an FMB category that was down 4%. The brand gained distribution in 2025, but declined in velocities, driven by category headwinds, a decline in features and displays, and some interaction with Sun Cruiser and its competitors.

Speaker #3: Our larger brands continue to be impacted by the headwinds I discussed earlier, particularly Twisted Tea that over-indexes with lower-income households and Hispanic drinkers. After starting the 2025 year with growth, Twisted Tea was down 6% in dollar sales in measured off-premise channels for the full year 2025 in an F&B category that was down 4%.

Speaker #3: The brand gained distribution in 2025, but declined in velocities driven by category headwinds, a decline in features and displays, and some interaction with SunCruiser and its competitors.

Speaker #3: Single-serve continues to perform much better than large packs, which tells us that consumer interest in the brand remains strong. We are working hard to ensure Twisted Tea maintains its fair share of display space.

Jim Koch: Single serve continues to perform much better than large packs, which tells us that consumer interest in the brand remains strong. We are working hard to ensure Twisted Tea maintains its fair share of display space. Numerator data shows approximately 20% of the drop in Twisted Tea is due to the vodka tea category, which includes Sun Cruiser. To the extent that Sun Cruiser sources volume from Twisted Tea, this is revenue and margin accretive for us. Despite some headwinds, Twisted Tea is the number 10 brand family in the overall beer market and remains the clear leader in malt-based hard tea, with over 85% market share. We're encouraged by the performance of Twisted Tea Light and the high ABV Twisted Tea Extreme, which have seen growth in velocities and have room to gain additional shelf space.

James Koch: Single serve continues to perform much better than large packs, which tells us that consumer interest in the brand remains strong. We are working hard to ensure Twisted Tea maintains its fair share of display space. Numerator data shows approximately 20% of the drop in Twisted Tea is due to the vodka tea category, which includes Sun Cruiser. To the extent that Sun Cruiser sources volume from Twisted Tea, this is revenue and margin accretive for us. Despite some headwinds, Twisted Tea is the number 10 brand family in the overall beer market and remains the clear leader in malt-based hard tea, with over 85% market share. We're encouraged by the performance of Twisted Tea Light and the high ABV Twisted Tea Extreme, which have seen growth in velocities and have room to gain additional shelf space.

Speaker #3: Numerator data shows approximately 20% of the drop in Twisted Tea is due to the vodka tea category, which includes SunCruiser. To the extent that SunCruiser sources volume from Twisted Tea, this is revenue and margin accretive for us.

Speaker #3: Despite some headwinds, Twisted Tea is the number 10 brand family in the overall beer market and remains the clear leader in malt-based hard tea with over 85% market share.

Speaker #3: We're encouraged by the performance of Twisted Tea Light and the high ABV Twisted Tea Extreme, which have seen growth in velocities and have room to gain additional shelf space.

Speaker #3: Our 2026 plans include increased advertising investment with strong creative and local activation, adding new partnerships and launching new pack sizes, and Twisted Tea Extreme flavor innovation.

Jim Koch: Our 2026 plans include increased advertising investment with strong creative and local activation, adding new partnerships and launching new pack sizes and Twisted Tea Extreme flavor innovation. Twisted Tea has a unique and clear brand voice and attitude, and our advertising plans include continuing to run our high-performing tea drop national ads across many category entry points, including sports, ski slopes, beaches, lake, and pool, complemented with in-store display programs. We'll also be adding always-on media for Twisted Tea Light and Twisted Tea Extreme. In 2026, we are expanding our partnerships that are most relevant to our drinkers, such as Barstool's Pardon My Take, the number one sports podcast, DraftKings, WWE Wrestling, country music's Chase Matthew, NASCAR, AMA Supercross and Motocross Racing, and Realtree Camo.

James Koch: Our 2026 plans include increased advertising investment with strong creative and local activation, adding new partnerships and launching new pack sizes and Twisted Tea Extreme flavor innovation. Twisted Tea has a unique and clear brand voice and attitude, and our advertising plans include continuing to run our high-performing tea drop national ads across many category entry points, including sports, ski slopes, beaches, lake, and pool, complemented with in-store display programs. We'll also be adding always-on media for Twisted Tea Light and Twisted Tea Extreme. In 2026, we are expanding our partnerships that are most relevant to our drinkers, such as Barstool's Pardon My Take, the number one sports podcast, DraftKings, WWE Wrestling, country music's Chase Matthew, NASCAR, AMA Supercross and Motocross Racing, and Realtree Camo.

Speaker #3: Twisted Tea has a unique and clear brand voice and attitude and our advertising plans include continuing to run our high-performing tea drop national ads across many category entry points, including sports, ski slopes, beaches, lake and pool, complemented with in-store display programs.

Speaker #3: We'll also be adding always-on media for Twisted Tea Light and Twisted Tea Extreme. In 2026, we are expanding our partnerships that are most relevant to our drinkers, such as Barstool Sports, Pardon My Take—the number one sports podcast—DraftKings, WWE Wrestling, country music's Chase Matthew, NASCAR, AMA Supercross and Motocross Racing, and RealTree Camo.

Speaker #3: Lastly, we continue to increase our investment in Hispanic and Spanish-language brand content, including new media and digital content to widen the brand's appeal.

Jim Koch: Lastly, we continue to increase our investment in Hispanic and Spanish language brand content, including new media and digital content, to widen the brand's appeal. With respect to pack sizes, we're expanding the rollout of our entry-level price point 4-pack, launching a 16-ounce can for C-stores to add a lower price point in addition to the current 24-ounce can and adding a 24-can value pack. Building on the success of our high ABV offerings, we've added a Twisted Tea Extreme variety pack that was launched in early 2026. Twisted Tea Extreme Lemon and Blue Razz are the number one and number two largest FMB growth SKUs in convenience. To further capitalize on the high ABV trend, we'll be launching new extreme singles flavors, Long Island Iced Tea, Fruit Punch, and Tropical Punch.

James Koch: Lastly, we continue to increase our investment in Hispanic and Spanish language brand content, including new media and digital content, to widen the brand's appeal. With respect to pack sizes, we're expanding the rollout of our entry-level price point 4-pack, launching a 16-ounce can for C-stores to add a lower price point in addition to the current 24-ounce can and adding a 24-can value pack. Building on the success of our high ABV offerings, we've added a Twisted Tea Extreme variety pack that was launched in early 2026. Twisted Tea Extreme Lemon and Blue Razz are the number one and number two largest FMB growth SKUs in convenience. To further capitalize on the high ABV trend, we'll be launching new extreme singles flavors, Long Island Iced Tea, Fruit Punch, and Tropical Punch.

Speaker #3: With respect to pack sizes, we're expanding the rollout of our entry-level price point four-pack, launching a 16-ounce can for c-stores to add a lower price point in addition to the current 24-ounce can, and adding a 24-can value pack. Building on the success of our high ABV offerings, we've added a Twisted Tea Extreme variety pack that was launched in early 2026.

Speaker #3: Twisted Tea Extreme lemon and blue rasp are the number one and number two largest F&B growth skews in convenience and to further capitalize on the high ABV trend.

Speaker #3: We’ll be launching new Extreme singles flavors: Long Island Iced Tea, Fruit Punch, and Tropical Punch. Our goal for 2026 is to improve share and grow volume in the overall hard tea category through showing progress in Twisted Tea and growing SunCruiser.

Jim Koch: Our goal for 2026 is to improve, share, and grow volume in the overall hard tea category through showing progress in Twisted Tea and growing Sun Cruiser. We're very excited about the outlook for Sun Cruiser, which grew volumes over 300% from 2024 to 2025, and is expected to make a strong contribution to our hard tea portfolio this year. Sun Cruiser was built in the on-premise channel, where in some markets it represents over 40% of the brand's volume. We believe this is the right way to drive, trial, and build the brand and are pleased that Sun Cruiser is the leading RTD Spirits and lemonade brand in on-premise bars and restaurants, according to Nielsen. Bartenders have been and continue to be a very important influencer group for Sun Cruiser.

James Koch: Our goal for 2026 is to improve, share, and grow volume in the overall hard tea category through showing progress in Twisted Tea and growing Sun Cruiser. We're very excited about the outlook for Sun Cruiser, which grew volumes over 300% from 2024 to 2025, and is expected to make a strong contribution to our hard tea portfolio this year. Sun Cruiser was built in the on-premise channel, where in some markets it represents over 40% of the brand's volume. We believe this is the right way to drive, trial, and build the brand and are pleased that Sun Cruiser is the leading RTD Spirits and lemonade brand in on-premise bars and restaurants, according to Nielsen. Bartenders have been and continue to be a very important influencer group for Sun Cruiser.

Speaker #3: We're very excited about the outlook for SunCruiser, which grew volumes over 300% from 2024 to 2025, and is expected to make a strong contribution to our higher tea portfolio this year.

Speaker #3: SunCruiser was built in the on-premise channel where, in some markets, it represents over 40% of the brand's volume. We believe this is the right way to drive trial and build the brand and are pleased that SunCruiser is the leading RTD spirits and lemonade brand in on-premise bars and restaurants according to Nielsen.

Speaker #3: Bartenders have been and continue to be a very important influer group for SunCruiser. SunCruiser continues to expand its off-premise distribution but, given its strong presence in on-premise and independence, measured off-premise data still only reflects a portion of the brand's total volume.

Jim Koch: Sun Cruiser continues to expand its off-premise distribution, but given its strong presence in on-premise and independence, measured off-premise data still only reflects a portion of the brand's total volume. Advertising support for Sun Cruiser includes building an organic following through social media, as well as more traditional content around the Let the Good Times Cruise media campaign, which includes television, paid social and digital advertising, and key influencers. We'll be present where Sun Cruiser fits into our drinkers' lifestyles across sports and music. Sun Cruiser will have committed media presence in MLB, the NFL, and the sponsorship of the AEG music concert series, and in 2026, we'll add exciting golf and ski partnerships. Golf programming includes tournament activations, golf media influencers, and experiential marketing programs, as well as wholesaler incentives.

James Koch: Sun Cruiser continues to expand its off-premise distribution, but given its strong presence in on-premise and independence, measured off-premise data still only reflects a portion of the brand's total volume. Advertising support for Sun Cruiser includes building an organic following through social media, as well as more traditional content around the Let the Good Times Cruise media campaign, which includes television, paid social and digital advertising, and key influencers. We'll be present where Sun Cruiser fits into our drinkers' lifestyles across sports and music. Sun Cruiser will have committed media presence in MLB, the NFL, and the sponsorship of the AEG music concert series, and in 2026, we'll add exciting golf and ski partnerships. Golf programming includes tournament activations, golf media influencers, and experiential marketing programs, as well as wholesaler incentives.

Speaker #3: Advertising support for SunCruiser includes building an organic following through social media as well as more traditional content around the Let the Good Times Cruise media campaign, which includes television, paid social, and digital advertising, and key influencers.

Speaker #3: We'll be present where SunCruiser fits into our drinkers' lifestyles across sports and music. SunCruiser will have committed media presence in MLB, the NFL, and the sponsorship of the AEG Music Concert Series, and in 2026, we'll add exciting golf and ski partnerships.

Speaker #3: Golf programming includes tournament activations, golf media influencers, and experiential marketing programs as well as wholesaler incentives. Additionally, SunCruiser is a key sponsor of Teton Gravity Ski Film Festival along with ski resort sponsorships and samplings that help reinforce its position as a brand for all four seasons.

Jim Koch: Additionally, Sun Cruiser is a key sponsor of Teton Gravity Ski Film Festival, along with ski resort sponsorships and samplings that help reinforce its position as a brand for all four seasons. From a product innovation perspective, we intend to keep a disciplined number of tea and lemonade styles while continuing to expand package options. In Q1 2026, we added new single-serve 12.2-oz packages and new tea and lemonade sampler 12-packs, which we expect will help expand drinker occasions and drive further growth in 2026. Turning to hard seltzer, the overall hard seltzer category declined 5% in dollars in measured off-premise channels for the full year 2025, as consumer preferences continued to shift towards more premium RTD spirits-based beverages.

James Koch: Additionally, Sun Cruiser is a key sponsor of Teton Gravity Ski Film Festival, along with ski resort sponsorships and samplings that help reinforce its position as a brand for all four seasons. From a product innovation perspective, we intend to keep a disciplined number of tea and lemonade styles while continuing to expand package options. In Q1 2026, we added new single-serve 12.2-oz packages and new tea and lemonade sampler 12-packs, which we expect will help expand drinker occasions and drive further growth in 2026. Turning to hard seltzer, the overall hard seltzer category declined 5% in dollars in measured off-premise channels for the full year 2025, as consumer preferences continued to shift towards more premium RTD spirits-based beverages.

Speaker #3: From a product innovation perspective, we intend to keep a disciplined number of tea and lemonade styles while continuing to expand package options. In the first quarter of 2026, we added new single-serve 12.2-ounce packages and new tea and lemonade sampler 12-packs, which we expect will help expand drinker occasions and drive further growth in 2026.

Speaker #3: Turning to hard seltzer, the overall hard seltzer category declined 5% in dollars in measured off-premise channels for the full year 2025. As consumer preferences continue to shift towards more premium RTD spirits-based beverages, our brand strategy for 2026 is to invest in new equity-building creative, capitalize on the World Cup, launch new pack sizes and varieties, and continue to expand truly unruly.

Jim Koch: Our brand strategy for 2026 is to invest in new equity-building creative, capitalize on the World Cup, launch new pack sizes and varieties, and continue to expand Truly Unruly. Our advertising plans include leveraging our sponsorships of US Soccer as its beyond beer sponsor with targeted World Cup activation, along with our new creative platform that we recently launched, called Make Your Dreams Come Truly. The 2026 World Cup, which will take place in North America for the first time in more than 3 decades, includes 11 cities, over 100 matches, and 4 billion global viewers. Our Truly World Cup plans, which have been well-received by major retailers, include driving visibility and displays and launching a US Soccer collector set of singles, along with a World Cup-themed rotator variety 12-pack.

James Koch: Our brand strategy for 2026 is to invest in new equity-building creative, capitalize on the World Cup, launch new pack sizes and varieties, and continue to expand Truly Unruly. Our advertising plans include leveraging our sponsorships of US Soccer as its beyond beer sponsor with targeted World Cup activation, along with our new creative platform that we recently launched, called Make Your Dreams Come Truly. The 2026 World Cup, which will take place in North America for the first time in more than 3 decades, includes 11 cities, over 100 matches, and 4 billion global viewers. Our Truly World Cup plans, which have been well-received by major retailers, include driving visibility and displays and launching a US Soccer collector set of singles, along with a World Cup-themed rotator variety 12-pack.

Speaker #3: Our advertising plans include leveraging our sponsorships of US soccer as it's beyond beer sponsor. With targeted World Cup activation, along with our new creative platform that we recently launched called Make Your Dreams Come Truly, the 2026 World Cup, which will take place in North America for the first time in more than three decades, includes 11 cities, over 100 matches, and $4 billion global viewers.

Speaker #3: Our truly World Cup plans, which have been well received by major retailers, include driving visibility and displays, and launching a US soccer collector set of singles along with a World Cup-themed rotator variety 12-pack.

Speaker #3: In addition, we have significant local investments in the 11 host cities, including local media and retail program. High ABV offerings continue to be a bright spot in hard seltzer, and truly unruly has grown to a 3% volume share of hard seltzer.

Jim Koch: In addition, we have significant local investments in the 11 host cities, including local media and retail program. High ABV offerings continue to be a bright spot in hard seltzer. Truly Unruly has grown to a 3% volume share of hard seltzer. Based upon drinker demand, we added a new Truly Unruly variety, 24-pack, in 2026. In cider, Angry Orchard has returned to growth behind a combination of new positioning and creative, and a strong Halloween program, which included Friday the 13th movie-themed advertising, promotions, packaging, and displays. Importantly, Angry Orchard's success comes from driving growth of the core offerings. Our beer brands, Samuel Adams and Dogfish Head, have combined to hold share in a challenging craft beer category.

James Koch: In addition, we have significant local investments in the 11 host cities, including local media and retail program. High ABV offerings continue to be a bright spot in hard seltzer. Truly Unruly has grown to a 3% volume share of hard seltzer. Based upon drinker demand, we added a new Truly Unruly variety, 24-pack, in 2026. In cider, Angry Orchard has returned to growth behind a combination of new positioning and creative, and a strong Halloween program, which included Friday the 13th movie-themed advertising, promotions, packaging, and displays. Importantly, Angry Orchard's success comes from driving growth of the core offerings. Our beer brands, Samuel Adams and Dogfish Head, have combined to hold share in a challenging craft beer category.

Speaker #3: Based upon drinker demand, we added a new truly unruly variety 24-pack in 2026. Insider Angry Orchard has returned to growth. Behind a combination of new positioning and creative and a strong Halloween program, which included Friday the 13th movie-themed advertising, promotions, packaging, and displays.

Speaker #3: Importantly, Angry Orchard's success comes from driving growth of the core offerings. Our beer brands, Samuel Adams and Dogfish Head, have combined to hold share in a challenging craft beer category.

Speaker #3: During the first quarter, we are excited that Samuel Adams will begin programs and promotions, as well as launch limited-edition packaging to help celebrate America's 250th anniversary.

Jim Koch: During Q1, we are excited that Samuel Adams will begin programs and promotions, as well as launch limited edition packaging, to help celebrate America's 250th anniversary. For Dogfish Head, we're particularly pleased that Dogfish Head's Grateful Dead Beer collaboration and the brand's Minute Series IPAs have helped fuel Dogfish Head's return to growth. In summary, I'd like to thank our Boston Beer team and our distributors and retailers for their continued support. I'm encouraged by the progress we made in 2025 amid a dynamic environment. While consumers remain cautious and the near-term outlook is still challenging, I'm confident in our operating plans for 2026. We're continuing to invest in our brands, we're building a strong innovation pipeline, and we're highly focused on our multiyear productivity initiatives. Importantly, we're focused on controlling what we can control.

James Koch: During Q1, we are excited that Samuel Adams will begin programs and promotions, as well as launch limited edition packaging, to help celebrate America's 250th anniversary. For Dogfish Head, we're particularly pleased that Dogfish Head's Grateful Dead Beer collaboration and the brand's Minute Series IPAs have helped fuel Dogfish Head's return to growth. In summary, I'd like to thank our Boston Beer team and our distributors and retailers for their continued support. I'm encouraged by the progress we made in 2025 amid a dynamic environment. While consumers remain cautious and the near-term outlook is still challenging, I'm confident in our operating plans for 2026. We're continuing to invest in our brands, we're building a strong innovation pipeline, and we're highly focused on our multiyear productivity initiatives. Importantly, we're focused on controlling what we can control.

Speaker #3: For Dogfish Head, we're particularly pleased that Dogfish Head's Grateful Dead Beer collaboration and the brand's minute series IPAs have helped fuel Dogfish Head's return to growth.

Speaker #3: In summary, I'd like to thank our Boston Beer Team and our distributors and retailers for their continued support. I'm encouraged by the progress we made in 2025 amid a dynamic environment.

Speaker #3: While consumers remain cautious in the near-term outlook is still challenging, I'm confident in our operating plans for 2026. We're continuing to invest in our brands.

Speaker #3: We're building a strong innovation pipeline, and we're highly focused on our multi-year productivity initiatives. Importantly, we're focused on controlling what we can control. We're executing in the marketplace to improve share trends and expand our margins.

Jim Koch: We're executing in the marketplace to improve share trends and expand our margins. These efforts, along with our innovation capabilities, strong sales force, and unique culture, position us well for a successful long-term future. I'll now pass the call to Diego for a detailed review of the Q4 and our 2026 guidance.

James Koch: We're executing in the marketplace to improve share trends and expand our margins. These efforts, along with our innovation capabilities, strong sales force, and unique culture, position us well for a successful long-term future. I'll now pass the call to Diego for a detailed review of the Q4 and our 2026 guidance.

Speaker #3: These efforts, along with our innovation capabilities, strong sales force, and unique culture, position us well for a successful long-term future. I'll now pass the call to Diego for a detailed review of the fourth quarter and our 2026 guidance.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone. 2025 was a year of continued progress for Boston Beer in a dynamic industry environment. Discipline execution and supply chain efficiency enabled us to meet or exceed our financial commitments.

Diego Reynoso: Thank you, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone. 2025 was a year of continuous progress for Boston Beer in a dynamic industry environment. Disciplined execution and supply chain efficiency enabled us to meet or exceed our financial commitments, including very strong gross margin outperformance. This margin upside enabled increased investment in advertising support for all our brands, while still delivering EPS ahead of our guidance. Cash conversion was strong, with $270 million in operating cash flow, and we ended the year with $223 million in cash and no debt. 2025 revenue was down 2.4% year-over-year, driven by shipments down 4.7% and 2.3 percentage points of positive price and mix. Price realization for the year was within our prior guidance of 1% to 2%, with the remainder being positive mix.

Speaker #2: Including very strong gross margin outperformance. This margin upside enabled increased investment in advertising support for all our brands. While still delivering EPS ahead of our guidance.

Speaker #2: Cash conversion was strong with $270 million in operating cash flow. And we ended the year with $223 million in cash and no debt. 2025 revenue was down 2.4% year over year.

Speaker #2: Driven by shipments down 4.7% and 2.3 percentage points of positive price and mix. Price realization for the year was within our prior guidance of 1 to 2%.

Speaker #2: With the remainder being positive mix. We delivered 410 basis points of gross margin expansion. With gross margin reaching 48.5% inclusive of 10.1 million in tariff costs.

Diego Reynoso: We delivered 410 basis points of gross margin expansion, with gross margin reaching 48.5%, inclusive of $10.1 million in tariff costs. Excluding contractual fee payments and shortfall fees, the gross margin was 50%. This is the highest full-year gross margin rate since 2019. EPS of $9.89 was up 4.7% year-over-year, excluding prior year impairment and one-time contract settlement charges. This EPS growth was inclusive of a $61 million increase in advertising spend, while general and administrative expenses were flat. Turning to the Q4 results, depletions decreased 6% and shipments decreased 7.5% year-over-year, primarily driven by declines in our Twisted Tea, Truly Hard Seltzer, and Sam Adams brands, that were partially offset by growth in the Sun Cruiser, Angry Orchard, and Dogfish Head brands.

Speaker #2: Excluding contractual prepayments and shortfall fees, the gross margin was 50%. This is the highest full-year gross margin rate since 2019. EPS of $9.89 was up 4.7% year on year excluding prior year impairment and one-time contract settlement charges.

Speaker #2: This EPS growth was inclusive of a $61 million increase in advertising spend, while general and administrative expenses were flat. Turning to the fourth quarter results, depletions decreased 6% and shipments decreased 7.5% year over year.

Speaker #2: Primarily driven by declines in our Twisted Tea, Truly, Hard Seltzer, and Sam Adams brands, that were partially offset by growth in the Sun Cruiser, Angry Orchard, and Dogfish Head brands.

Speaker #2: As we expected, volume slowed sequentially in the fourth quarter from the third quarter. Twisted tea volumes continued to be soft and Sun Cruiser continues to show strength.

Diego Reynoso: As we expected, volume slowed substantially in the Q4 from the Q3. Twisted Tea volumes continue to be soft, and Sun Cruiser continues to show strength, but at a lower contribution in the Q4 due to seasonality. We believe the trader inventory of 4 weeks on hand as of 27 December 2025, is an appropriate level for each of our brands. Revenue for the quarter decreased 4.1% due to lower volume, partially offset by increased pricing and favorable product mix. Gross margin of 43.5% increased 360 basis points year-over-year. Gross margin primarily benefited from improved brewery efficiencies, procurement savings, price increases, and product mix, as well as lower inventory obsolescence. These factors were partially offset by inflationary and tariff costs and increase in short volume.

Speaker #2: But at a lower contribution in the fourth quarter due to seasonality. We believe the sweeter inventory of four weeks on hand has a December 27, 2025, to send appropriate level for each of our brands.

Speaker #2: Revenue for the quarter decreased 4.1% due to lower volume, partially offset by increased pricing in favor of product mix. Gross margin of 43.5% increased 360 basis points year over year.

Speaker #2: Gross margin primarily benefited from improved brewery efficiencies, procurement savings, price increases, and product mix as well as lower inventory obsolescence. These factors were partially offset by inflationary and tariff costs and increased in shortfall.

Speaker #2: Advertising, promotional, and selling expenses increased $8.4 million, or 6.0% year over year, primarily due to incremental brand media and local marketing investments of $8.0 million.

Diego Reynoso: Advertising, promotional, and selling expenses increased $8.4 million, or 6.0% year-over-year, primarily due to incremental brand, media, and local marketing investments of $8.0 million, with the remainder driven by higher freight costs. General and administrative expenses for the Q4 increased $4.5 million, or 9.4% year-over-year, primarily due to increased salaries and benefits costs. We are continuing to execute on our three buckets of multiyear savings projects ahead of our initial timing expectations. We saw significant benefit in 2025, and half more savings to come in 2026, albeit at a lower rate. To be specific, in brewery performance, we continue to see improvement in OE, driven by process improvement, which helped to increase our internal production capacity.

Speaker #2: With the remainder driven by higher freight costs. General and administrative expenses for the fourth quarter increased 4.5 million dollars or 9.4% year over year.

Speaker #2: Primarily due to increased salaries and benefits costs. We are continuing to execute on our three buckets of multi-year savings projects ahead of our initial timing expectations.

Speaker #2: We saw significant benefit in 2025 and have more savings to come in 2026, albeit at a lower rate. In these specific and brewery performances, we continue to see improvements in OEE, driven by process improvements, which help to increase our internal production capacity.

Speaker #2: In the fourth quarter, we produced 99% of our domestic volumes internally compared to 85% in the fourth quarter of last year. Full year 2025 domestic internal production increased to 86% of our volumes compared to 74% last year.

Diego Reynoso: In Q4, we produced 99% of our domestic volumes internally, compared to 85% in Q4 of last year. Full year 2025 domestic internal production increased to 86% of our volume, compared to 74% last year. In 2026, we expect to continue increasing the rate of in-source production, but at a smaller year-over-year benefit due to achieving a high in-source percentage in 2025. In procurement savings, our Q4 results benefited from lower negotiated pricing on certain packaging and ingredients. As discussed previously, procurement savings initiatives are the area where we have made the most progress over the last two years. While we expect some continued benefits in 2026, the impact is expected to be moderate. In waste and network optimization, we're continuing to enhance the customer ordering and trade inventory management system that we implemented last year.

Speaker #2: In 2026, we expect to continue increasing the rate of in-source production, but at a smaller year-over-year benefit due to achieving a high in-source percentage in 2025.

Speaker #2: In procurement savings, our fourth quarter results benefited from lower negotiated pricing on certain packaging and ingredients. As discussed previously, procurement savings initiatives are the area where we have made the most progress over the last two years.

Speaker #2: While we expect some continued benefits in 2026, the impact is expected to be moderate. In waste and network optimization, we're continuing to enhance the customer ordering and trade inventory management system that we implemented last year.

Speaker #2: These efforts help us achieve record-high customer service levels that resulted in lower inventories internally, and which helped improve our cash flow. In addition, we reduced obsolete inventories 71% in the fourth quarter and 48% for the full year.

Diego Reynoso: These efforts helped us achieve record-high customer service levels that resulted in lower inventories internally and which helped improve our cash flow. In addition, we reduced obsolete inventory 71% in Q4 and 48% for the full year. In addition to our three buckets of savings, we are beginning to add revenue management capabilities as part of our margin agenda. These efforts are in early stages in 2026, with a more meaningful contribution expected in 2027. Turning to our 2026 guidance, our fiscal week depletion plans for the first eight weeks of 2026 have declined 3% from 2025. We are currently planning 2026 depletions and shipments to be flat to down mid-single digits.

Speaker #2: In addition to our three buckets of savings, we are beginning to add revenue management capabilities as part of our margin agenda. These efforts are in early stages in 2026, with a more meaningful contribution expected in 2027.

Speaker #2: Turning to our 2026 guidance, our fiscal week depletion trends for the first eight weeks of 2026 have declined 3% from 2025. We are currently planning 2026 depletions and shipments to be flat to down mid-single digits.

Speaker #2: Where we land within this range will be impacted by the pace of improvement in the overall consumer environment and the time it takes for our brand investment initiatives to drive market share improvement.

Diego Reynoso: Where we land within this range will be impacted by the pace of improvement in the overall consumer environment and the time it takes for our brand investment initiatives to drive market share improvement. We expect price increases of between 1% and 2% and some additional benefit mix. Full year 2026 reported gross margins are expected to be between 48% and 50%. Our outlook expects that we cover commodities and non-tariff related inflation with pricing, and that the lower shortfall fees and prepayment amortization broadly offset increased tariff costs. 2026 reflects a full-year tariff cost estimate of $20 to 30 million, versus a partial year in 2025 of $11 million. These tariff cost estimates are based upon tariffs in place prior to the February 2026 Supreme Court ruling. We will continue to drive our savings initiatives to help buffer any volume deleverage.

Speaker #2: We expect price increases of between 1% and 2% and some additional benefit mix. Full-year 2026 reported gross margins are expected to be between 48% and 50%.

Speaker #2: Our outlook expects that we cover commodities and non-tariff-related inflation with pricing and that the lower shortfall fees and prepayment amortization broadly offset increased tariff costs.

Speaker #2: 2026 reflects a full-year tariff cost estimate of 20 to 30 million versus a partial year in 2025 of 11 million. These tariff costs estimates are based upon tariffs in place prior to the February 2026 Supreme Court ruling.

Speaker #2: We will continue to drive our savings initiatives to help buffer any volume deleverage. Our long-term gross margin target continues to be in the high 40s, with any individual year dependent upon volume, commodity inflations, and tariff environment.

Diego Reynoso: Our long-term gross margin target continues to be in the high forties, with any individual year dependent upon volumes, commodity inflations, and tariff environment. As Jim discussed earlier, we expect to increase our advertising levels to support our brand. The investments in advertising, promotional, and selling expenses are expected to increase between $20 million and $40 million. This does not include any changes in freight costs for the shipment of products to our distributors. We estimate our full year 2026 effective tax rate to be approximately 29% to 30%. We are currently targeting a full year 2026 earnings per diluted share of between $8.50 and $11. As you model out the year, please keep in mind the following factors.

Speaker #2: As Jim discussed earlier, we expect to increase our advertising levels to support our brands. The investments in advertising, promotional, and selling expenses are expected to increase between 20 million dollars and 40 million dollars.

Speaker #2: This does not include any changes in freight costs or the shipment of products to our distributors. We estimate our full year 2026 effective tax rate to be approximately 29% to 30%.

Speaker #2: We are currently targeting a full year 2026 earnings per diluted share of between $8.50 and $11. As you model out the year, please keep in mind the following factors.

Speaker #2: Our business is impacted by seasonal volume changes. With the first quarter and the fourth quarter being lower absolute volume quarters, and the fourth quarter typically our lowest absolute gross margin rate of the year.

Diego Reynoso: Our business is impacted by seasonal volume change, with the Q1 and the Q4 being lower absolute volume quarters, and the Q4 typically our lowest absolute gross margin rate of the year. We have difficult shipments comparisons in the Q1 and the first half of the year as we shift ahead of depletions in 2025 to build wholesaler inventories of our product innovation, which included Sun Cruiser and Truly Unruly. We currently expect the Q1 and first half shipments to be down towards the lower end of our full year volume guidance, with better shipment performance later in the year. During full year 2026, we estimate shortfall fees and non-cash expenses for third-party production prepayments in total will negatively impact our gross margin by 40 to 60 basis points.

Speaker #2: We have difficult shipments comparisons in the first quarter and the first half of the year, as we shift ahead of depletions in 2025 to build wholesaler inventories of our product innovation, which included sunk cruiser and truly unreal.

Speaker #2: We currently expect the first quarter and first half shipments to be down towards the lower end of our full-year volume guidance, but with better shipment performance later in the year.

Speaker #2: During full year 2026, we estimate shortfall fees and non-cash expenses of third-party production prepayments in total will negatively impact our gross margin by 40 to 60 basis points.

Speaker #2: We expect year-over-year gross margin rate improvements to be most meaningful in the fourth quarter. We typically expend the majority of our shortfall fees in the fourth quarter, we expect lower shortfall fees in 2026, and the timing of this benefit together with the fact that the fourth quarter is a smaller dollar quarter has an outsized favorable impact on the gross margin rate.

Diego Reynoso: We expect year-over-year gross margin rate improvement to be most meaningful in Q4. We typically expense the majority of our shortfall fees in Q4. We expect lower shortfall fees in 2026, and the timing of this benefit, together with the fact that Q4 is a smaller dollar quarter, has an outsized favorable impact on the gross margin rate. Incremental advertising investment is expected to be weighted to Q2 and Q3 to support the key summer selling.

Speaker #2: Incremental advertising investment is expected to be weighted to the second and third quarters to support the key summer selling fees. Turning to capital allocation, we ended the quarter with a cash balance of $223 million, and an unused credit line of $150 million.

Diego Reynoso: Turning to capital allocation, we ended the quarter with a cash balance of $223 million and an unused credit line of $150 million, which provides us with ample flexibility to continue to invest in our base business, fund future growth initiatives, and return cash to shareholders through our share buyback program. For the full year 2026, we expect capital expenditures of between $70 million and $90 million. These investments will be primarily related to our own breweries to build capabilities and to improve efficiency. We will continue to be disciplined in our capital spending as we monitor the dynamic industry environment over the long term.

Speaker #2: Which provides us with ample flexibility to continue to invest in our base business. Fund future growth initiatives and retain cash to shareholders through our share buyback program.

Speaker #2: For the full year 2026, we expect capital expenditures of between $70 million and $90 million. These investments will be primarily related to our own breweries to build capabilities and to improve efficiency.

Speaker #2: We will continue to be disciplined in our capital spending as we monitor the dynamic industry environment over the long term. During the 52-week period ended December 27, 2025, and in the period from December 29, 2025, to February 20, 2026, we repurchased shares in the amount of $200 million and $14 million, respectively, for a total of $214 million repurchased since January 2025.

Diego Reynoso: During the 52-week period ended 27 December 2025, and the period from 29 December 2025 to 20 February 2026, we repurchased shares in the amount of $200 million and $14 million, respectively, for a total of $214 million of repurchase since January 2025. As of 20 February 2026, we had approximately $215 million remaining on the $1.6 billion share repurchase authorization. This concludes our prepared remarks, and now we'll open the line for questions.

Speaker #2: As of February 20, 2026, we had approximately $215 million remaining on the $1.6 billion share repurchase authorization. This concludes our prepared remarks. And now we'll open the line for questions.

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Speaker #1: One moment, please, while we pull for questions. And the first question comes from the line of Peter Grom with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #2: Thank you, guys. Good evening, hope you're doing well. So two questions from my end. Maybe one on, on the gross margin outlook. I would love to understand what you're embedding or expecting as it relates to kind of underlying inflation, I'm sure you're aware of what, what are your competitors outlining as it relates to aluminum.

Peter Grom: Thank you, guys. Good evening, hope you're doing well. Two questions from my end. Maybe one on the gross margin outlook. I would love to understand what you're embedding or expecting as it relates to kind of underlying inflation. I'm sure you're aware of what your competitors outlined as it relates to aluminum and the Midwest premium. Just curious what impact that may be having on your margin target looking ahead.

Speaker #2: And the Midwest Premium. So just curious what impact that may be having on, on your margin target looking ahead.

Diego Reynoso: Yeah, thank you for the question. As you probably know, we do not hedge in aluminum. We've seen the aluminum Midwest premium to continue to grow. We are expecting a little bit of inflation, but not as much as we've had in the past, and that's kind of what we built into next year's margins.

Speaker #3: yeah. Thank you for, for the question. So as you, as you probably know, we do not hedge in aluminum. We've seen, the aluminum, Midwest Premium continue to grow.

Speaker #3: So we are expecting a little bit of inflation, but not as much as we've had in the past. and that's kind of what we built into next year's margins.

Speaker #2: Okay. Great. And then, you know, I was hoping to get some perspective just on the year-to-date performance and just, it-it's running a bit better than what you delivered last year, you know, as it relates to depletions.

Peter Grom: Okay, great. Then, you know, I was hoping to get some perspective just on the year-to-date performance. It's running a bit better than what you delivered last year, you know, as it relates to depletions, certainly better than what you saw in Q4. Just as we, you know, just based on what we've seen, do you have a view on why the category seems to be doing better thus far? And maybe just, you know, as we think about the path forward, what are you expecting in terms of category growth from here? Thanks.

Speaker #2: Certainly better than what you saw in four Q. So just as we, you know, just based on what we've seen, do you have a view on why the category seems to be doing better thus far?

Speaker #2: and maybe just, you know, as we think about the path forward, what are you expecting in terms of category growth from, from here? Thanks.

Speaker #3: Okay. So I'll, I'll start giving you our, our numbers and then I'll hand it off for Jim for the category view. So in, in our case, the, the biggest difference at the beginning of the year is the improvement in trends for Twisted Tea.

Diego Reynoso: Okay, I'll start giving you our numbers, and then I'll hand it off for Jim, for the category view. In our case, the biggest difference at the beginning of the year is the improvement in trends for Twisted Tea. And we're continuing our support of the brand and our investments, and we feel pretty good about how we started the year. From a category point of view, I'll hand it over to Jim to give his perspective.

Speaker #3: and, and we're, we're continuing, our support of the brand and our investments and we, we feel pretty good about how we started the year.

Speaker #3: from a category point of view, I'll hand it over to Jim to give his perspective.

Speaker #4: Thank you. you know, I'm Peter. It's the category's clearly gotten better. in the last, call it two months, maybe it started, in December, and, and we're, we're basically seeing beer category trends maybe two or three points better than they were in, 2025.

Jim Koch: Thank you. You know, Peter, the category's clearly gotten better in the last two months. Maybe it started in December, and we're basically seeing, you know, beer category trends maybe two or three points better than they were in 2025. 2025 was just in some ways, kind of a black swan year. I don't think anybody in the industry expected, you know, beer to be down over 5%. I think we all went into the year thinking it was kind of gonna be down 2%, which would it be consistent with the previous five years of, you know, up and down through COVID. It turned out to be down a whole lot more without, you know, obvious, clear explanations for it.

James Koch: Thank you. You know, Peter, the category's clearly gotten better in the last two months. Maybe it started in December, and we're basically seeing, you know, beer category trends maybe two or three points better than they were in 2025. 2025 was just in some ways, kind of a black swan year. I don't think anybody in the industry expected, you know, beer to be down over 5%. I think we all went into the year thinking it was kind of gonna be down 2%, which would it be consistent with the previous five years of, you know, up and down through COVID. It turned out to be down a whole lot more without, you know, obvious, clear explanations for it.

Speaker #4: 2025 was just a, in some ways, kind of a black swan year. I don't think anybody in the industry expected, you know, beer to be down over 5%.

Speaker #4: And I think we all went into the year thinking it was kind of going to be down 2%, which would be consistent with the previous five years of, you know, up and down through COVID, and then it turned out to be down a whole lot more without, you know, as clear explanations for it.

Speaker #4: So I'd have to say that the improvement, is certainly welcome. I wish I could tell you what was going on. I, I think, there's been some, you know, moderation in, the, the clamor around health and alcohol causes cancer.

Jim Koch: I'd have to say that the improvement is certainly welcome. I wish I could tell you what was going on. I think there's been some, you know, moderation in the clamor around health and alcohol causes cancer. We had the, you know, the government guidelines come out and be pretty much consistent with previously. It said, it's okay to drink, just don't drink too much. I think that might have been helpful. Maybe the Hispanic community has adjusted to some of the, you know, the new realities and found ways to come back and be visible, go to the stores, and, you know, not send their kids to buy things. There's some of that, perhaps.

James Koch: I'd have to say that the improvement is certainly welcome. I wish I could tell you what was going on. I think there's been some, you know, moderation in the clamor around health and alcohol causes cancer. We had the, you know, the government guidelines come out and be pretty much consistent with previously. It said, it's okay to drink, just don't drink too much. I think that might have been helpful. Maybe the Hispanic community has adjusted to some of the, you know, the new realities and found ways to come back and be visible, go to the stores, and, you know, not send their kids to buy things. There's some of that, perhaps.

Speaker #4: We had the, you know, the government guidelines come out and, and be pretty much consistent with previously. It said it's okay to drink. Just don't drink too much.

Speaker #4: I think that might have been helpful. Maybe the Hispanic community is adjusted to some of the, you know, the new realities and found ways to come back and be visible and go to the stores and, you know, not send their kids to buy things.

Speaker #4: so there's some of that, perhaps. I think the, the bloom is a little bit off the roads with, with hemp, partly because of what happened in November.

Jim Koch: I think the bloom is a little bit off the rose with hemp, partly because of what happened in November, and the, you know, the Hemp Loophole, so-called, being closed, that might have contributed to it. Those are the best explanations I could come up with. The numbers are the numbers. The category trends are down, you know, have improved by about 300 basis points. I would like to tell you that our depletions have improved by that same amount, and it's all this great stuff that we did. A lot of it is the whole category is healthier than it was 3 months ago.

James Koch: I think the bloom is a little bit off the rose with hemp, partly because of what happened in November, and the, you know, the Hemp Loophole, so-called, being closed, that might have contributed to it. Those are the best explanations I could come up with. The numbers are the numbers. The category trends are down, you know, have improved by about 300 basis points. I would like to tell you that our depletions have improved by that same amount, and it's all this great stuff that we did. A lot of it is the whole category is healthier than it was 3 months ago.

Speaker #4: and the, you know, the, the hemp blue pole so-called, being closed. So that might have contributed to it. so those are the best explanations I could come up with.

Speaker #4: But, the numbers are the numbers. The, the category trends are down. You know, improved by about, 300 basis points. And, you know, I would like to tell you that our depletions have are up have, have improved by, that same amount.

Speaker #4: and it's all this great stuff that we did. But a lot of it is the whole category is healthier than it was three months ago.

Peter Grom: That's super helpful. Thank you so much. I'll pass it on.

Speaker #2: That's super helpful. Thank you so much. I'll pass it on.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Robert Ottenstein with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of Rob Ottenstein with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.

Speaker #5: Terrific. Two questions. One, can you talk a little bit about the improvement at Twisted Tea? It sounds like what you're seeing there may be a little bit more due to your own interventions rather than the category.

Robert Ottenstein: Terrific. Two questions. One, can you talk a little bit about the improvement at Twisted Tea? It sounds like, you know, what you're seeing there, may be a little bit more due to, you know, your own interventions rather than the categories. Just love to understand, you know, why Twisted Tea is doing a little bit better, and if those particular actions are things that you expect to see follow through for the rest of the year. Second, if you could talk about what's going on with shelf space, both at the kind of category or macro level, you know, given all the declines that the industry has had, is the overall industry holding shelf space?

Speaker #5: So just love to understand, you know, why Twisted Tea is doing a little bit better. And if those particular actions are things that you expect to see follow through for the rest of the year, and then second, if you could talk about what's going on with shelf space, both at the kind of category or macro level, you know, given all the declines that the, you know, the, the industry has had, i-is, is the overall industry holding, shelf space, and then how are you doing, on the shelf space side, particularly in terms of, you know, both, both beer as, as well as, you know, the bo beyond beer area and, and the key brands?

Robert Ottenstein: How are you doing on the shelf space side, particularly in terms of, you know, both beer as well as, you know, the Beyond Beer area and the key brands. Thank you.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Jim, would you like to take the first part of that?

Diego Reynoso: Jim, would you like to take the first part of that?

Speaker #5: Sure.

Jim Koch: Sure. Absolutely. You know, I think we do feel good about some of the actions that we started taking towards the end of last year with respect to Twisted Tea. You know, we did some diagnosis and we found that our pricing might have been too aggressive in certain markets, in certain packages, in certain channels, you know, primarily 12 packs in supermarkets and maybe 20, 25% of the markets. We, you know, worked with our wholesalers to fix those. You know, typically, it might be we were at $22 a 12-pack, and $19.95 is a really significant price point reduction. We addressed, you know, places where we were up at Stella Artois type pricing, and that does seem to have helped us in those places.

James Koch: Sure. Absolutely. You know, I think we do feel good about some of the actions that we started taking towards the end of last year with respect to Twisted Tea. You know, we did some diagnosis and we found that our pricing might have been too aggressive in certain markets, in certain packages, in certain channels, you know, primarily 12 packs in supermarkets and maybe 20, 25% of the markets. We, you know, worked with our wholesalers to fix those. You know, typically, it might be we were at $22 a 12-pack, and $19.95 is a really significant price point reduction. We addressed, you know, places where we were up at Stella Artois type pricing, and that does seem to have helped us in those places.

Speaker #4: Absolutely. you know, I think, we do feel good about some of the actions that we started taking towards the end of last year with respect to Twisted Tea.

Speaker #4: You know, we did some diagnosis, and we found that, you know, our pricing might have been too aggressive in certain markets, in certain packages.

Speaker #4: In certain channels, you know, primarily 12-packs in supermarkets in maybe 20–25 percent of the markets. And we've, you know, worked with our wholesalers to fix those.

Speaker #4: You know, typically, we might have been at $22 for a 12-pack, and $19.95 is a really significant price point reduction. So we addressed, you know, places where we were up at still Artois-type pricing.

Speaker #4: And that does seem to have helped us, in those places. we have also, been more aggressive in pushing, Twisted Tea Extreme and Twisted Tea Light, both of which are, are growing pretty nicely.

Jim Koch: We have also been more aggressive in pushing Twisted Tea Extreme and Twisted Tea Light, both of which are growing pretty nicely. A little bit of, you know, just trying to get displays back because we lost some displays to RTDs, and we've been, you know, mildly successful in doing that. There have been, you know, some direct actions, and those will continue in 2026 in addition to working with our wholesalers to do more local market support in terms of our sort of, share the burden program with them, where for every $3 we put into additional local marketing, they put $1 in.

James Koch: We have also been more aggressive in pushing Twisted Tea Extreme and Twisted Tea Light, both of which are growing pretty nicely. A little bit of, you know, just trying to get displays back because we lost some displays to RTDs, and we've been, you know, mildly successful in doing that. There have been, you know, some direct actions, and those will continue in 2026 in addition to working with our wholesalers to do more local market support in terms of our sort of, share the burden program with them, where for every $3 we put into additional local marketing, they put $1 in.

Speaker #4: and a little bit of, you know, just trying to get displays back because we lost some displays, to RTDs. And we've been a, you know, mildly successful in doing that.

Speaker #4: So there have been you know, some direct actions. And, and those will continue in 20, 26. in addition to working with our wholesalers to do more local market support, in terms of our sort of, share the, the burden, program with them where, you know, for every $3 we put into additional local marketing, they, they put a dollar in.

Speaker #4: And so that's also been helpful, both in terms of the actual spend itself and, you know, getting our wholesalers involved in making sure that Twisted Tea remains a strong, and hopefully, you know, growing brand going forward.

Jim Koch: That's also been helpful, both in terms of the actual spend itself and, you know, getting our wholesalers involved in making sure that Twisted Tea remains a strong and hopefully, you know, growing brand going forward. Twisted Tea is the number 10 brand in beer, and for a lot of our wholesalers, it's in the top five or six brands, so it's important to them, and they've gotten engaged with that. I mean, in terms of your second question of shelf space, roughly, well, for the industry, there has been some erosion of shelf space, though, you know, the erosion of beer shelf space has gone to RTDs. While they are liquor-based, they kind of live and operate as beer. The same type of packages, same sort of, you know, price points.

James Koch: That's also been helpful, both in terms of the actual spend itself and, you know, getting our wholesalers involved in making sure that Twisted Tea remains a strong and hopefully, you know, growing brand going forward. Twisted Tea is the number 10 brand in beer, and for a lot of our wholesalers, it's in the top five or six brands, so it's important to them, and they've gotten engaged with that. I mean, in terms of your second question of shelf space, roughly, well, for the industry, there has been some erosion of shelf space, though, you know, the erosion of beer shelf space has gone to RTDs. While they are liquor-based, they kind of live and operate as beer. The same type of packages, same sort of, you know, price points.

Speaker #4: It's Twisted Tea is the number 10 brand in beer. And for a lot of our wholesalers, it's in the top 5 or 6 brands.

Speaker #4: So it's important to them. And they've gotten engaged with that. I mean, in terms of your second question of, of shelf space, roughly, well, for the industry, there has been some erosion of shelf space.

Speaker #4: Though, you know, the erosion of beer shelf space has gone, to RTDs, and, you know, while they are liquor-based, they kind of live and operate as, as beer.

Speaker #4: The same type of packages, same sort of, you know, price points, they're sold out of the cold box. So, if, you know, beer loses some shelf space to, RTDs, most of those are coming today from, beer suppliers and beer distributors.

Jim Koch: They're sold out of the cold box. If, you know, beer loses some shelf space to RTDs, most of those are coming today from beer suppliers and beer distributors. Net-net-net, from all of that, there is not, to my, from what I've seen, not a significant erosion of cooler space to beer. The possible exception would be in, you know, those states where hemp-based beverages have become really strong. There's, you know, they're not a lot of states, but you do have places like, you know, Louisiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, Minnesota, where, you know, they're reaching 5, even 10% of beer dollars and they're in the cooler. And they have taken some beer shelf space and in places like Total Wine, beer displays as well.

James Koch: They're sold out of the cold box. If, you know, beer loses some shelf space to RTDs, most of those are coming today from beer suppliers and beer distributors. Net-net-net, from all of that, there is not, to my, from what I've seen, not a significant erosion of cooler space to beer. The possible exception would be in, you know, those states where hemp-based beverages have become really strong. There's, you know, they're not a lot of states, but you do have places like, you know, Louisiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, Minnesota, where, you know, they're reaching 5, even 10% of beer dollars and they're in the cooler. And they have taken some beer shelf space and in places like Total Wine, beer displays as well.

Speaker #4: So, net, net, net from all of that, there is not a, to my from what I've seen, not a significant, erosion of cooler space to beer.

Speaker #4: the possible exemption exception would be in, you know, those states where hemp-based beverages have become really strong. there's, you know, they're not, a lot of states, but you do have places like, you know, Louisiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, Minnesota, where, you know, they're reaching 5, even 10 percent of beer dollars and, and, and they're in the cooler.

Speaker #4: and, and they have taken some, beer, shelf space and, and in places like Total Wine, beer displays, as well. and while the jury is still out, I think, my betting is that, the, you know, the repeal of the hemp loophole, will probably stand in Congress.

Jim Koch: While the jury is still out, I think, my betting is that, you know, the repeal of the Hemp Loophole will probably stand in Congress. You know, the impact in the hemp-based beverages will diminish. It won't go away, there will, you know, there's, you can still have it at a state level. It just has some federal restrictions to it. I believe we'll get some shelf space back from that in 2026.

James Koch: While the jury is still out, I think, my betting is that, you know, the repeal of the Hemp Loophole will probably stand in Congress. You know, the impact in the hemp-based beverages will diminish. It won't go away, there will, you know, there's, you can still have it at a state level. It just has some federal restrictions to it. I believe we'll get some shelf space back from that in 2026.

Speaker #4: And so, you know, the, the impact and the hemp-based beverages will diminish and won't go away. They'll, you know, there's, you can still have it in a state level.

Speaker #4: It just has some federal restrictions to it. but I, I believe we'll get some shelf space back from, from that in 2026.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Filippo Falorni with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of Filippo Filorni with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #5: Hey, good afternoon, everyone. So maybe first, Jim, can you talk a bit about the plans for year two on Sancruze and, like, what are the incremental distribution opportunities there?

Filippo Falorni: Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Maybe first, Jim, can you talk a bit about the plans for year two on Sun Cruiser and, like, what are the incremental distribution opportunities there? Obviously, you made a big push in 2025, but there's still quite a bit of white space. Then maybe some of the flavor innovation that you launched. What are the results, early results, and, like, is there potential to further expand into flavors? Thank you.

Speaker #5: obviously, you made a big push in 2025, but there's still quite a bit of white space. And then maybe some of the flavor innovation that you launched, what are the results, early results, and, like, is there potential to further extend into flavors?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Sure. You know, Sancruze had a great 2025. It grew, you know, almost 400%, and firmly established itself within the RTD category. It's about the number five RTD from kind of nowhere a year and a half ago.

Jim Koch: Sure. You know, Sun Cruiser had a great 2025. It grew, you know, almost 400%, firmly established itself within the RTD category. It's about the number 5 RTD from kind of nowhere 1.5 years ago. We were very happy with the success of Sun Cruiser, and a lot of that success happened without getting chain authorizations. We really didn't kick in with Sun Cruiser until the last quarter of 2024, which means, you know, we missed the window of presenting it to the chains, we didn't get shelf placements in many chains. We did very well in Walmart. They really got behind it, but most of the other chains were very limited. 1 SKU, no SKUs, and that's now changing in 2026.

James Koch: Sure. You know, Sun Cruiser had a great 2025. It grew, you know, almost 400%, firmly established itself within the RTD category. It's about the number 5 RTD from kind of nowhere 1.5 years ago. We were very happy with the success of Sun Cruiser, and a lot of that success happened without getting chain authorizations. We really didn't kick in with Sun Cruiser until the last quarter of 2024, which means, you know, we missed the window of presenting it to the chains, we didn't get shelf placements in many chains. We did very well in Walmart. They really got behind it, but most of the other chains were very limited. 1 SKU, no SKUs, and that's now changing in 2026.

Speaker #4: So, we were very happy with, the success of Sancruze and a lot of that success happened without getting chain authorization. We really didn't, kick in with Sancruze until the last quarter of 2024, which means you know, we missed, the window of presenting it to the chain.

Speaker #4: So, we didn't get shelf placements in many chains. We did very well in Walmart. They really got behind it. But most of the other chains were very limited.

Speaker #4: One SKU, no SKUs. and that's now changing in 2026. So we're getting strong, distribution support from a lot of the big chains that, you know, Albertsons, Safeway, Kroger, and on down that list.

Jim Koch: We're getting strong distribution support from a lot of the big chains that, you know, Albertsons, Safeway, Kroger, and on down that list. We're gonna be well represented, you know, in accordance with being the number five RTD. We're gonna continue very high level of support, even, you know, to our spending on Sun Cruiser. Some of it is, you know, things like national advertising, national programs, and sponsorships. A lot of it is more local sponsorships, local billboards, lots of sampling, you know, brand ambassadors. A lot of really grassroots work, especially on premise.

James Koch: We're getting strong distribution support from a lot of the big chains that, you know, Albertsons, Safeway, Kroger, and on down that list. We're gonna be well represented, you know, in accordance with being the number five RTD. We're gonna continue very high level of support, even, you know, to our spending on Sun Cruiser. Some of it is, you know, things like national advertising, national programs, and sponsorships. A lot of it is more local sponsorships, local billboards, lots of sampling, you know, brand ambassadors. A lot of really grassroots work, especially on premise.

Speaker #4: So we're going to be well represented, you know, in accordance with being the number five RTD. So we're, and, and we're going to continue a very high level of support, even, you know, add to our spending on Sancruze. Some of it is, you know, things like national advertising and national programs and sponsorships. A lot of it is more local—local sponsorships, local billboards, lots of sampling, you know, brand ambassadors, a lot of really grassroots work, especially on-premise.

Jim Koch: Something like 40% of Sun Cruiser's volume is on premise, and we believe that's how brands are built. They may not deliver the same volume of off-premise, but the volume that they deliver is much more brand supporting, if you will, for having it in a bar than buying a 6-pack, you know, in a convenience store. We are not slackening at all. We're actually putting more fuel on the fire for Sun Cruiser, and we're looking forward to. It's not going to grow 300% or 400%, but we're looking for it to be a major contributor, hopefully, to overall company growth in 2026.

Speaker #4: something like 40% of Sancruze's volume is, is on-premise. And, and we believe that's how brands are built. And so we're going to, they may not deliver the same volume of off-premise, but, the volume that they deliver is, is much more brand-supporting, if you will, for having it in a bar than buying a six-pack, you know, in a convenience store.

James Koch: Something like 40% of Sun Cruiser's volume is on premise, and we believe that's how brands are built. They may not deliver the same volume of off-premise, but the volume that they deliver is much more brand supporting, if you will, for having it in a bar than buying a 6-pack, you know, in a convenience store. We are not slackening at all. We're actually putting more fuel on the fire for Sun Cruiser, and we're looking forward to. It's not going to grow 300% or 400%, but we're looking for it to be a major contributor, hopefully, to overall company growth in 2026.

Speaker #4: So we are not slackening at all. We're actually putting more fuel on the fire for Sancruze, and we're looking forward to—you know, it's not going to grow 300 or 400%, but we're looking for it to be a major contributor, hopefully, to overall company growth in 2026.

Jim Koch: In terms of flavor, innovation, and that pipeline, the big news is one of our flavor innovations in 2025 has proved very successful, and we are rolling it out. It's not entirely national, but it's 30-plus states, so it's close to national. That innovation is a vodka cocktail, very lightly carbonated. It's called Sinless. It's 100 calories, so it enables you to have a spirits cocktail and still have the sort of guilt-free, no carbs, and no sugar that you would get from a seltzer, but get a much bigger flavor profile. We will see how that does, but we're optimistic enough to roll it out in the majority of the country.

Speaker #4: In terms of flavor innovation, and that kind of that pipeline, I guess the big news is one of our flavor innovations in 2025 has proved very successful.

James Koch: In terms of flavor, innovation, and that pipeline, the big news is one of our flavor innovations in 2025 has proved very successful, and we are rolling it out. It's not entirely national, but it's 30-plus states, so it's close to national. That innovation is a vodka cocktail, very lightly carbonated. It's called Sinless. It's 100 calories, so it enables you to have a spirits cocktail and still have the sort of guilt-free, no carbs, and no sugar that you would get from a seltzer, but get a much bigger flavor profile. We will see how that does, but we're optimistic enough to roll it out in the majority of the country.

Speaker #4: And so we are rolling it out. It's not entirely national, but, it's 30-plus states. So it's, it's close to national. And that, that innovation is a vodka cocktail, very, very lightly carbonated.

Speaker #4: It's called Sinless. It's 100 calories. So it enables you to have a spirits cocktail and still have the sort of guilt-free, no carbs, no sugar experience that you would get from a seltzer, but with a much bigger flavor profile.

Speaker #4: So we will see how that does, but, we're optimistic enough to roll it out, in the majority of the country. And then further up in the pipeline, we have things like Just Hard Squeezed, which is a, a 10% juice product.

Jim Koch: Further up in the pipeline, we have things like Just Hard Squeezed, which is a 10% juice product, it's alcoholic. We have a Social Pop, which is a kind of new wave soda with alcohol, and Wild Leaf, which is an upscale version of Twisted Tea with lower calories, lower sugar, and, you know, more leaning into the quality of the tea in the product. Those are still just in a handful of test markets, so I really don't have anything significant to report. I can say that, you know, from our pipeline in 2025, we have a new quasi-national launch in Sinless.

James Koch: Further up in the pipeline, we have things like Just Hard Squeezed, which is a 10% juice product, it's alcoholic. We have a Social Pop, which is a kind of new wave soda with alcohol, and Wild Leaf, which is an upscale version of Twisted Tea with lower calories, lower sugar, and, you know, more leaning into the quality of the tea in the product. Those are still just in a handful of test markets, so I really don't have anything significant to report. I can say that, you know, from our pipeline in 2025, we have a new quasi-national launch in Sinless.

Speaker #4: It's alcoholic. We have a Social Pop, which is a kind of new wave soda with alcohol. And Wild Leaf, which is an upscale version of Twisted Tea with lower calories, lower sugar, and, you know, more leaning into the quality of the tea.

Speaker #4: in the product, those are still just in a handful of test markets. So I really don't have anything significant to report, but I can say that, you know, from our pipeline in 2025, we have a new quasi-national launch.

Speaker #4: And Sinless.

Speaker #5: Right. That's very helpful. And maybe a quick follow-up for Diego on Peter's question on the Midwest Premium and aluminum. Can you give us a bit of a sense of how you source aluminum?

Filippo Falorni: Great. That's very helpful. Maybe a quick follow-up for Diego on Peter's question on the Midwest premium and aluminum. Can you give us a bit of sense of how you source aluminum, just given the big rise in the Midwest premium, it would imply that there's maybe a little bit more impact on the inflationary side in 2026. Maybe there's some sourcing, some hedging. Can you give us some sense of why it's not a big impact for you guys? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Just given the big rise in the Midwest Premium, it would imply that there's maybe a little bit more impact on the inflationary side in 2026.

Speaker #5: But maybe is there some sourcing, some hedging? Can you give us some sense of why it's not a big impact for you guys? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So, so what we have is we have contracts with our suppliers that have a pass-through of the Midwest Premium, as part of the, the price.

Diego Reynoso: Yeah. What we have is, we have contracts with our suppliers that have a pass-through of the Midwest premium as part of the price. Since we don't hedge it, we will get the pass-through as the premium moves during the year. Again, to the question, our expectation is there's gonna be a little bit of inflation on the premium, but not... If that is different, you'll see that going through our PNL, given that we don't have a hedge in place.

Speaker #4: So, since we don't hedge it, we will get the pass-through as the premium moves during the year. So again, to the question, our expectation is there's going to be a little bit of inflation on the premium, but not—

Speaker #4: If that is different, you'll see that going through our P&L, given that we don't have a hedge in place.

Speaker #5: Got it. Thank you. That's awesome.

Filippo Falorni: Got it. Thank you. That's helpful.

Speaker #6: Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of Kamil Gajrawala with Jefferies. Please proceed.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Kamil Gadziala with Jefferies. Please proceed.

Kamil Gadziala: Hey, Diego, can I just follow up on that because I'm confused. If it's a pass-through, wouldn't that mean, you get hit with, you know, fully of the big spike that we've had in the increase already?

Speaker #7: Hey, hey, Diego. Can I—Diego, can I just follow up on that because I'm confused? If it's a pass-through, wouldn't that mean you get hit with, you know, fully, the big spike that we've had in the increase already?

Diego Reynoso: Yes, we get hit through the pass-through, and we did last year, and that was part of the reason that our costs went up in materials, but we were able to offset it by savings. We do get hit by the premium as we go through the year.

Speaker #4: yes. We, we like, we, we get hit through the pass-through. and we did last year, and that was part of the reason that our costs went up in, in materials.

Speaker #4: But we were able to offset it by savings. So, we do get hit by the premium as we go through the year.

Speaker #7: Oh, I see. Okay. I think, maybe it was implied that you'd have less of an impact, but okay. I get it now. Jim, I guess, as you talked about the marketing, you laid out a lot of a lot of things.

Kamil Gadziala: Oh, I see. Okay. I think maybe it was implied that you'd have less of an impact, but okay, I get it now. Jim, I guess, as you talked about the marketing, you laid out a lot of things, and it's hard for us to perhaps get scope on. Is this higher or lower than perhaps where you were just last year? I believe ad spend might have been up double digits last year, and it's expected to be up again this year. You know, when you put this all together, it seems like there's some big increases in investment. We haven't really seen volumes turn yet. Is that lack of idea? Do you feel like maybe you're investing in the wrong places? Is that course-corrected for 2026?

Speaker #7: And it’s hard for us to perhaps get scope on, is this higher or lower than perhaps where you were yesterday or last year?

Speaker #7: I believe ad spend might have been up double digits last year, and it's expected to be up again this year. But, you know, when you put this all together, it seems like there's some big increases in investment.

Speaker #7: We haven't really seen volumes turn yet. So is that lack of idea? Do you feel like maybe you're investing in the wrong places? Is that course-corrected for '26?

Speaker #7: Or maybe just trying to make that connection between the increases in investments and still having sort of declines on volumes?

Kamil Gadziala: Maybe just trying to make that connection between the increases in investments and still having sort of declines on volumes.

Jim Koch: Well, it's a really good question. Let me see if I can sort of clarify it, maybe simplify it. You know, when we think of investing behind our brands, it's sometimes we use media as a term, but more appropriately, you should think of it as brand support, of which media is a component, but, and probably the biggest. There's a whole lot of other stuff that we have, which you could think of as more, sort of local market execution, you know, including salespeople, and including the point of sale that they put up and that, you know, accompanies them as an expense. It includes a lot of, you know, local sponsorships. It includes things like sampling teams, brand ambassadors, distributor incentives.

James Koch: Well, it's a really good question. Let me see if I can sort of clarify it, maybe simplify it. You know, when we think of investing behind our brands, it's sometimes we use media as a term, but more appropriately, you should think of it as brand support, of which media is a component, but, and probably the biggest. There's a whole lot of other stuff that we have, which you could think of as more, sort of local market execution, you know, including salespeople, and including the point of sale that they put up and that, you know, accompanies them as an expense. It includes a lot of, you know, local sponsorships. It includes things like sampling teams, brand ambassadors, distributor incentives.

Speaker #8: to really good question. let me see if I can sort of clarify it, maybe simplify it. you know, when we think of investing behind our brands, it's sometimes we use media, as a term.

Speaker #8: But more appropriately, you should think of it as brand support, of which media is a component—but, and probably the biggest. But there's a whole lot of other stuff that we have, which you could think of as more sort of local market execution.

Speaker #8: You know, including salespeople, and including the point of sale that they put up, and that, you know, a company sees them as an expense.

Speaker #8: It includes a lot of, you know, local sponsorships. It includes things like sampling teams, brand ambassadors, distributor incentives. It's a, you know, a fairly long and, and diffuse list of things.

Jim Koch: It's a, you know, fairly long and diffuse list of things. You know, media is only, I don't know, depending on how you want to run the numbers, 25, 30, 35% of it. But the other is a whole bunch of little of, you know, what is meaningful to us that drives local market execution. That's, you know, our brands have kind of been built with a lot of grassroots efforts since, you know, day one when, you know, I was selling the beer from bar to bar. To get to your second question, well, you know, how come we're spending all this additional brand support money and we're still declining?

James Koch: It's a, you know, fairly long and diffuse list of things. You know, media is only, I don't know, depending on how you want to run the numbers, 25, 30, 35% of it. But the other is a whole bunch of little of, you know, what is meaningful to us that drives local market execution. That's, you know, our brands have kind of been built with a lot of grassroots efforts since, you know, day one when, you know, I was selling the beer from bar to bar. To get to your second question, well, you know, how come we're spending all this additional brand support money and we're still declining?

Speaker #8: And you know, media's only, I don't know, depending on how you want to run the numbers, 25 30, 35 percent of it. but the others a whole bunch of little of, of, you know, what is meaningful to us, that drives local market execution.

Speaker #8: And that's, you know, our, our brands have kind of been built with a lot of grassroots efforts. Since, you know, day one, when, you know, I was selling the beer from bar to bar.

Speaker #8: And then to get to your second question—well, you know, how come we're spending all this additional brand support money and we're still declining?

Speaker #8: I think it's a really good question. And, believe me, it's one that I ask, you know, to make sure that we're not wasting a lot of money on this.

Jim Koch: I think it's a really good question, and believe me, it's one that I ask, you know, to make sure that we're not wasting a lot of money on this. I guess, you know, in total, we were down last year, 4%. The overall beer category was down a little more, like five and a half. I think some of it was spent to do that, and a significant amount of the increase in 2025 was spent behind Sun Cruiser. You know, I view Sun Cruiser as, you know, it's a strong brand now in a category that's growing double digits. You know, in my world, you know, that's kind of in the old BCG matrix, that's a star.

James Koch: I think it's a really good question, and believe me, it's one that I ask, you know, to make sure that we're not wasting a lot of money on this. I guess, you know, in total, we were down last year, 4%. The overall beer category was down a little more, like five and a half. I think some of it was spent to do that, and a significant amount of the increase in 2025 was spent behind Sun Cruiser. You know, I view Sun Cruiser as, you know, it's a strong brand now in a category that's growing double digits. You know, in my world, you know, that's kind of in the old BCG matrix, that's a star.

Speaker #8: I guess, you know, in total, we, we deem we were down last year 4%. The overall beer category was down a little more, like 5, 5 and a half.

Speaker #8: So I think some of it was spent to do that. and a significant amount of the increase in 2025 was spent behind SunCruiser. And, you know, I, I view SunCruiser as you know, it's a strong brand now in a category that's growing double digits.

Speaker #8: And, you know, in my world, you know, that's kind of in the old BCG matrix, that's a star. That's a place where, you know, you overinvest to get growth, and you keep doing that as long as the categories got, you know, high single digits, low double digits, growth.

Jim Koch: That's a place where, you know, you overinvest to get growth, and you keep doing that as long as the categories got, you know, high single digits, low double digits growth. We definitely overinvested in Sun Cruiser. Did that pay off? I have to say, yes, it did. I mean, we went from kinda nowhere to the number 5 brand, kind of close to, you know, where NÜTRL is, which is a really great brand from Anheuser-Busch that they've built over, you know, the last 4 or 5 years, and we were able to do that in a year and a half.

James Koch: That's a place where, you know, you overinvest to get growth, and you keep doing that as long as the categories got, you know, high single digits, low double digits growth. We definitely overinvested in Sun Cruiser. Did that pay off? I have to say, yes, it did. I mean, we went from kinda nowhere to the number 5 brand, kind of close to, you know, where NÜTRL is, which is a really great brand from Anheuser-Busch that they've built over, you know, the last 4 or 5 years, and we were able to do that in a year and a half.

Speaker #8: So we definitely overinvested in SunCruiser. Did that pay off? I have to say, yes, it did. I mean, we went from kind of nowhere to the number five brand.

Speaker #8: Kind of close to, you know, where neutral is, which is a really great brand from Anheuser-Busch that they've built over, you know, the last four, five years.

Speaker #8: And we were able to do that in a year and a half.

Speaker #7: Got it. Thank you. That's helpful.

Diego Reynoso: Got it. Thank you. Helpful.

Speaker #6: And the next question comes from the line of Eric Serrada with Morgan Stanley. My apologies. Nadine Sarwat with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: The next question comes from the line of Eric Serotta with Morgan Stanley. My apologies, Nadine Sarwat with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #9: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. Two for me. First one on tariffs—I know you guys guided to the $20 to $30 million of costs for this year.

Nadine Sarwat: Hey, guys, thanks for the questions. Two for me. First one, on tariffs. I know you guys guided to the $20 to 30 million of costs for this year. Can you just remind us what items are driving this, and then how that impact is going to be phased throughout the year? Second question on gross margins. You know, if I remember correctly, I think you guys said to get to the 50% or above point would require top line growth. It is a pleasant surprise to see that 50 included at the top end of the range here. Could you just give us the building blocks for the gross margin guidance in particular? You know, what would you need to get to the high end of the range versus the low end?

Speaker #9: Can you just remind us what items are driving this? And then how that impact is going to be faced throughout the year? And then, second question, on gross margins.

Speaker #9: You know, if I remember correctly, I think you guys said to get to the 50% or above point would require top-line growth. So it is a pleasant surprise to see that 50 included at the top end of the range here.

Speaker #9: Could you just give us the building blocks for the gross margin guidance in particular? You know, where—what would you need to get to the high end of the li range versus the low end?

Speaker #9: You guys went through a similar exercise for the top line for us, which was very helpful. So any color on that for gross margins would be appreciated.

Nadine Sarwat: You guys went through a similar exercise for the top line for us, which was very helpful. Any color on that for gross margins would be appreciated. Thank you.

Speaker #9: Thank you.

Speaker #8: Perfect. so let me start by tariffs. So we, as, as we laid out, 20 to 30, if, if you remember last year, we, we had bought a lot of products already.

Diego Reynoso: Perfect. Let me start by tariffs. As we laid out, 20 to 30, if you remember last year, we had bought a lot of products already. The big impact of tariffs last year was in the back end of Q3 and Q4. Therefore, the year-over-year impact will be bigger at the beginning of the year, particularly in Q2, just given the size of the volume. If you break down what includes in that is, aluminum is a big piece of that, and as of now, that's still in place. POS coming particularly from China, is a piece of that. We also have ingredients, sugar, and for our RTD, for example, that are coming from other countries, specifically Canada, that are part of it.

Speaker #8: So the big impact of tariffs last year was in the back end of Q3 and Q4. So, therefore, the year impact, the year-to-year impact, will be bigger at the beginning of the year—particularly in Q2—just given the size of the volume.

Speaker #8: If you break down what’s included in that, aluminum is a big piece of that. And as of now, that's still in place. POS, coming particularly from China, is a piece of that.

Speaker #8: And we also have ingredients, sugar—for our AB RTD, for example—that are coming from other countries, specifically Canada, that are part of it.

Speaker #8: So it, it—that's why we've decided to leave the tariffs as is, beginning in February, until we see exactly what pieces might change. As I mentioned, right now, the aluminum piece, for example, which is the biggest piece, has not changed.

Diego Reynoso: That's why we've decided to leave as the tariffs at the beginning of February until we see exactly what pieces might change. As I mentioned, right now, the aluminum piece, for example, which is the biggest piece, has not changed. We will provide better guidance once we have more clarity on what's gonna be the tariffs going forward. The second piece is, you're correct. I think we're very happy with our performance in our savings agenda. I think the operations team has done an amazing job, working in the buckets we laid out. As we included in our statement before, we are adding revenue management as another bucket.

Speaker #8: So that's—we will provide better guidance once we have more clarity on what's going to be the tariffs going forward. The second piece is, you're correct.

Speaker #8: I think we're very happy with our performance in our savings agenda. I think the operations team have done an amazing job working in the buckets we laid out.

Speaker #8: As we included in our statement before, we are adding revenue management as another bucket. We are going to set it up in the back end of 2025.

Diego Reynoso: We are gonna set it up in the back end of 2025, we started, 2026, we're really going to invest against it, and we believe we're gonna get some benefits this year, but really for 2027. That will help our margin profile. The second piece, as you mentioned, tariffs, is a big piece of it, so how those go forward will be the second part. Then the third piece is really being able to leverage volume. Right now, if we're in the top end of our guidance, that will help us get closer to the top end of our margin guidance, because volume absorption is a big piece of where the opportunity lies going forward, given that we are producing a lot of it internal at this point in time.

Speaker #8: We started. But in 2026, we're really going to invest against it. And we believe we're going to get some benefits this year, but really for 2027.

Speaker #8: That will help our margin profile. The second piece, as you mentioned, is tariffs—it's a big piece of it. So how those go forward will be the second part.

Speaker #8: And then the third piece is really being able to leverage volume. So right now, if we're in the top end of our guidance, that will help us get closer to the top end of our margin guidance.

Speaker #8: Because volume absorption is a big piece of where the opportunity lies going forward, given that we are producing a lot of it internal at this point in time.

Speaker #9: Perfect. Very helpful. Thank you. Oh, please. Yes.

Nadine Sarwat: Perfect. Very helpful.

Jim Koch: Nadine-

James Koch: Nadine-

Nadine Sarwat: Thank you. Oh, please. Yes.

Jim Koch: Nadine, yeah, I'll add my two cents worth on that, which is probably literally two cents. I would just observe that in the past, our gross margin has been as high as 52%. It was sort of pre the takeoff and the chaos of, you know, doubling our production during the Truly boom. It's my aspiration to get back into that low 50 percents. It's not easy. I believe we have the best supply chain team that we've ever had. We are still, you know, kind of in the middle, maybe in year three of a five-year lean manufacturing journey, which is showing very good results. We continue to look for high ROI capital investments in the breweries.

James Koch: Nadine, yeah, I'll add my two cents worth on that, which is probably literally two cents. I would just observe that in the past, our gross margin has been as high as 52%. It was sort of pre the takeoff and the chaos of, you know, doubling our production during the Truly boom. It's my aspiration to get back into that low 50 percents. It's not easy. I believe we have the best supply chain team that we've ever had. We are still, you know, kind of in the middle, maybe in year three of a five-year lean manufacturing journey, which is showing very good results. We continue to look for high ROI capital investments in the breweries.

Speaker #7: Nadine, yeah, I'll add my two cents' worth on that, which is probably literally two cents. I would just observe that in the past, our gross margin has been as high as 52%.

Speaker #7: so it was sort of pre the takeoff and the chaos of the, you know, doubling our production during the truly boom. And, you know, it's my aspiration to get back into that low 50%.

Speaker #7: It's not easy, but I believe we have the best supply chain team that we've ever had. We are still, you know, kind of in the middle—maybe in year three of a five-year lean manufacturing journey—which is showing very good results.

Speaker #7: We continue to look for high-ROI capital investments in the breweries. You know, we obviously are not cash-starved, so if there's—you know, we are actively looking for high-ROI manufacturing investments.

Jim Koch: You know, we obviously are not cash-starved. If there's, you know, we are actively looking for high ROI manufacturing investments. On the other side, in the sales, you know, we are looking to, you know, have the majority of our growth come from margin accretive products. My aspiration is more than just the high forties. We've been there before. I don't think it's unrealistic.

James Koch: You know, we obviously are not cash-starved. If there's, you know, we are actively looking for high ROI manufacturing investments. On the other side, in the sales, you know, we are looking to, you know, have the majority of our growth come from margin accretive products. My aspiration is more than just the high forties. We've been there before. I don't think it's unrealistic.

Speaker #7: And then, on the other side, in sales, you know, we are looking to, you know, have the majority of our growth come from margin-accretive products.

Speaker #7: So my aspiration is more than just the high 40s, and we've been there before, so I don't think it's unrealistic.

Speaker #9: Fantastic. Thank you very much.

Michael Lavery: Fantastic. Thank you very much.

Speaker #6: And the next question comes from the line of Eric Serrada with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: The next question comes from the line of Eric Serotta with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Eric Serotta: Great. Thanks for the question. Nadine beat me to the punch on the detailed tariff question. One quick follow-up, housekeeping on that, and then another question. You know, on the tariff piece, are you including in tariffs only the direct impact from tariffs, or would higher Midwest premium, which is, you know, kind of indirectly driven by tariffs, be included in your tariff bucket? I know it's a little bit of semantics, but maybe it would help us get a handle around, you know, some of this confusion around your Midwest premium exposure. The second question would be in terms of how you're thinking about, you know, sort of midterm growth potential for Sun Cruiser, perhaps learnings from other RTDs in the space.

Speaker #7: Great, thanks for the question. Nadine beat me to the punch on the detailed tariff question. One quick follow-up housekeeping on that, and then another question.

Speaker #7: you know, on the tariff piece, are you including in tariffs only the direct impact from tariffs? Or would higher Midwest premium, which is, you know, kind of indirectly driven by tariffs, be included in your tariff bucket?

Speaker #7: I know it's a little bit of semantics, but maybe it would help us get a handle around some of this confusion around your Midwest premium exposure.

Speaker #7: And the second question would be in terms of, how you're thinking about, you know, sort of mid-term growth potential for SunCruiser, perhaps learnings from other RTDs, in the space.

Eric Serotta: You know, clearly, Truly didn't go to the, you know, didn't grow to the moon. How you're thinking about sort of a maturation curve for Sun Cruiser, Jim, how you're thinking about, you know, what's the next big thing is, which, you know, I think always tends to be on your mind, or lots of little things that may become the next big thing. Thanks.

Speaker #7: And, you know, clearly, truly didn't go to the, you know, didn't grow to the moon, how you're thinking about sort of a maturation curve.

Speaker #7: For SunCruiser and then, Jim, how you're thinking about, you know, what's the next big thing is, which, you know, I think always tends to be on your mind or lots of little things that, that may become the next big thing.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #10: Okay. I'll take the first one, and then I'll give Jim the second one. so, it's, it's, it's hard to break out exactly which is tariffs versus the premium.

Diego Reynoso: Okay, I'll take the first one, and then I'll give Jim the second one. It's hard to break out exactly which is tariffs versus the premium, but the approach we've taken to break it out is we know what the tariff percentage is. We know right now there's, like, a 50% tariff on aluminum. We'll take that tariff and count that as tariff. Any other movement in the Midwest premium will take as inflation. Although they're both related one to each other, that's how you break it out, is you quantify the tariff based on the actual tariff percentage and assume the rest of the movements in the Midwest premium are inflation based. They both end up in cost of goods, that's how we break them out when we give the tariff point of view.

Speaker #10: But the approach we've taken to break it out is, we know what the tariff percentage is. So we know right now there's like a 50% tariff on aluminum.

Speaker #10: We'll take that tariff and count that as tariff. Any other movement in the Midwest premium will take as inflation. so although they're both related one to each other, that's how you break it out is you quantify the tariffs based on the actual tariff percentage.

Speaker #10: And assume the rest of the movements in the Midwest premium are inflation-based. They both end up in cost of goods, but that's how we break them out when we give the tariff point of view.

Speaker #10: Jim, I'll hand it off for the second part.

Diego Reynoso: Jim, I'll hand it off for the second part.

Speaker #7: Great. You had Eric, you asked about mid-term prospects for SunCruiser. And we believe that there is certainly one more year, maybe two more years, but one more year of really strong growth in SunCruiser.

Jim Koch: Great. Eric, you're asking about midterm prospects for Sun Cruiser, and we believe that there is certainly one more year, maybe two more years, but one more year of really strong growth in Sun Cruiser. You know, we got a late start in the category, and we believe that, you know, the category itself, vodka and lemon, vodka, tea, and lemon-based products, that category has probably got another year of strong growth. You know, we started late, so we also believe that we're gonna pick up share in 2026 in the category, given that we're getting, you know, disproportionate increases in our shelf space. We're getting into chains that we weren't in at all last year. The...

James Koch: Great. Eric, you're asking about midterm prospects for Sun Cruiser, and we believe that there is certainly one more year, maybe two more years, but one more year of really strong growth in Sun Cruiser. You know, we got a late start in the category, and we believe that, you know, the category itself, vodka and lemon, vodka, tea, and lemon-based products, that category has probably got another year of strong growth. You know, we started late, so we also believe that we're gonna pick up share in 2026 in the category, given that we're getting, you know, disproportionate increases in our shelf space. We're getting into chains that we weren't in at all last year. The...

Speaker #7: You know, we got a late start in the category. and, we believe that, you know, the, the category itself of, of vodka and lemon vodka tea and lemon-based products, that category has probably got another year of strong growth.

Speaker #7: And, you know, we started late, so we also believe that we're going to pick up share in 2026 in the category, given that we're getting, you know, disproportionate increases in our shelf space.

Speaker #7: We're getting into chains that we weren't in at all last year. And with respect to, you know, the next big thing—you know, honestly, if I knew what it was, we'd already be putting it into the market.

Jim Koch: With respect to, you know, next big thing, you know, honestly, if I knew what it was, we'd already be putting it into the market. You know, we do pride ourselves on, you know, being an innovative company. We're sort of built for that. We have a growth mindset. We're staffed for it. We have, you know, a very, the largest sales force in the beer business. We have a very large product and flavor development team. There's, you know, and there's a lot of stuff that we come up with, and generally, you know, putting things in the pipeline 3 or 4 a year and hoping that something is gonna come out.

James Koch: With respect to, you know, next big thing, you know, honestly, if I knew what it was, we'd already be putting it into the market. You know, we do pride ourselves on, you know, being an innovative company. We're sort of built for that. We have a growth mindset. We're staffed for it. We have, you know, a very, the largest sales force in the beer business. We have a very large product and flavor development team. There's, you know, and there's a lot of stuff that we come up with, and generally, you know, putting things in the pipeline 3 or 4 a year and hoping that something is gonna come out.

Speaker #7: but, you know, we do pride ourselves on, you know, being an innovative company. we're sort of built for that. we have a growth mindset.

Speaker #7: We're staffed for it. We have you know, a very we have a large sales force in the beer business. we have a very large product and flavor development team.

Speaker #7: so there's you know, and there's a lot of stuff that we come up with. And generally, you know, bring putting things in the pipeline, three or four a year, and hoping that something is going to come out.

Speaker #7: So this year, we're looking for Sinless to see if that can become the next SunCruiser. But it's hard to predict, and we're looking at some package innovation as well that we're not sure if we can make it work.

Jim Koch: This year, we're looking for Sinless to see if that can become the next Sun Cruiser, but it's hard to predict. We, we're looking at some package innovation as well, but we're not sure if we can make it work. There is just this, I mean, it's in our nature to innovate and, you know, approach things as the company we are, which is smaller and more entrepreneurial.

James Koch: This year, we're looking for Sinless to see if that can become the next Sun Cruiser, but it's hard to predict. We, we're looking at some package innovation as well, but we're not sure if we can make it work. There is just this, I mean, it's in our nature to innovate and, you know, approach things as the company we are, which is smaller and more entrepreneurial.

Speaker #7: So, there is just this—I mean, it's in our nature to innovate and, you know, approach things as the company we are, which is smaller and more entrepreneurial.

Speaker #7: Great. Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.

Eric Serotta: Great. Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.

Speaker #6: And the next question comes from the line of Michael Laverry with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: The next question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Lavery: Thank you. Good evening. I just wanted to dig into Truly a little bit. It's still had some struggles, even as White Claw's momentum has recovered and improved. Can you give a sense, maybe just what your hopes for that brand are? Can it also get back to growth? Is it just managing it, you know, kind of, you know, to moderate or, you know, to some of the declines? How do you see it positioned and what's the opportunity for its, any trajectory change there?

Speaker #10: Thank you. Good evening. I just wanted to dig into Truly a little bit. It still had some struggles, even as White Claw's momentum has recovered and improved.

Speaker #10: Can you give a sense, maybe just what your hopes for that brand are, and can it also get back to growth? Is it just managing it, you know, kind of, you know, to moderate or, you know, to some of the declines?

Speaker #10: Or how do you see it positioned, and what's the opportunity for any trajectory change there?

Jim Koch: I'll take that one. We look at Truly as having the potential of being, you know, a strong and viable number two in the category, which it remains. There's White Claw, which is, you know, the clear number one in the category. We have been kind of, honestly, a weak number two. I believe hard seltzer is a viable category. I believe it can be stable. You know, White Claw's volume has actually grown, so they've done a great job, and you can see the payoff from that.

Speaker #11: I'll take that one. We, we look at Truly as having the potential of being, you know, a strong and viable number two in the category, which it remains.

James Koch: I'll take that one. We look at Truly as having the potential of being, you know, a strong and viable number two in the category, which it remains. There's White Claw, which is, you know, the clear number one in the category. We have been kind of, honestly, a weak number two. I believe hard seltzer is a viable category. I believe it can be stable. You know, White Claw's volume has actually grown, so they've done a great job, and you can see the payoff from that.

Speaker #11: There's really, there's White Claw, which is, you know, the clear number one in the category. We have been kind of, honestly, a weak number two, and so—and I believe hard seltzer is a viable category.

Speaker #11: I believe it can be stable. You know, White Claw's volume has actually grown, so they've done a great job. And you can see the payoff from that.

Jim Koch: We would like to get Truly to the point where it's no longer absorbing the category losses and where, you know, maybe it's growing low single digits a year and continues to remain, you know, a big enough product to be meaningful to our wholesalers and our retailers, which it certainly is today, and off of that base, grow low single digits. We're actually investing, you know, more in it this year than we did last year. The US Soccer team partnership is, you know, a very big deal. We've, we've got, you know, promotions around the 11 cities that are where the games are being played. They represent a big part of the US population, those 11 metros.

Speaker #11: We would like to get truly to the point where it's no longer absorbing the category losses, and where, you know, maybe it's growing low single digits.

James Koch: We would like to get Truly to the point where it's no longer absorbing the category losses and where, you know, maybe it's growing low single digits a year and continues to remain, you know, a big enough product to be meaningful to our wholesalers and our retailers, which it certainly is today, and off of that base, grow low single digits. We're actually investing, you know, more in it this year than we did last year. The US Soccer team partnership is, you know, a very big deal. We've, we've got, you know, promotions around the 11 cities that are where the games are being played. They represent a big part of the US population, those 11 metros.

Speaker #11: A year in, and it continues to remain, you know, a big enough product to be meaningful to our wholesalers and our retailers, which it certainly is today.

Speaker #11: And offer that base, grow low single digits. So we're actually investing, you know, more in it this year than we did last year. The US Soccer Team partnership is, you know, a very big deal.

Speaker #11: And we've got, you know, promotions around the 11 cities that are sponsors, you know, where the games are being played. They represent a big part of the U.S. population, those 11 metros.

Speaker #11: So we'd like to get it to be a stronger number two than it is now, with, you know, low single digits growth.

Jim Koch: We'd like to get it to be a stronger number two than it is now, with, you know, low single digits growth.

James Koch: We'd like to get it to be a stronger number two than it is now, with, you know, low single digits growth.

Michael Lavery: No, that's helpful. Just one more on some of the innovation, looking at the drift towards some higher ABV products, both in your portfolio and more broadly. Can you give a sense. It typically appears to, it's a better value for the consumer, kind of more bang for the buck. If just hypothetically or assuming the consumer isn't looking to get more intoxicated, it would have a headwind to your volumes for the same amount of the alcohol in the liquid, even if the liquid's less. Is there enough of a mixed benefit to offset that? Or, like, how do you manage that trade-off?

Speaker #10: No, that's helpful. And just one more on some of the innovation—looking at the drift towards some higher ABV products, both in your portfolio and more broadly.

Speaker #10: Can you give a sense, it typically appears to, to—it’s a better, it’s a better value for the consumer, kind of more bang for the buck.

Speaker #10: i-i-if just hypothetically or assuming the consumer isn't looking to, to get more intoxicated, it would have a, a headwind to your volumes. For the same amount of, of, of the alcohol in the liquid, even if the liquid's less, i-i-is there enough of a mixed benefit to offset that?

Speaker #10: Or like, how do you manage that trade-off? And, and I realize there's competitive dynamics that drive a lot of it, but i-is there a is there a way to make that trade-off work that's, that's not as maybe apparent from a distance?

Michael Lavery: I realize there's competitive dynamics that drive a lot of it, is there a way to make that trade-off work that's not as maybe apparent from a distance?

Jim Koch: I don't know of it. I think you raise a good point, but it's clearly, our experience would say, you know, it's not a one-for-one trade-off. You know, as we, you know, get disproportionate growth with Twisted Tea Extreme, we are also growing the lower ABV, Twisted Tea Light. There is that trade-off. Do people drink more liquid because if they're drinking Twisted Tea Light, because it's 4% ABV? Probably. Do they drink less with this Twisted Tea Extreme, which is 8% ABV? Probably. Ultimately, I can't give you a really good number, but it's certainly, those trade-offs are manageable. And as we're going into, you know, vodka-based or liquor-based products, there is some, you know, expectation of maybe slightly higher ABVs.

Speaker #11: I don't know of it. I think you raise a good point, but it's clearly our experience would say, you know, it's not a one-for-one trade-off.

James Koch: I don't know of it. I think you raise a good point, but it's clearly, our experience would say, you know, it's not a one-for-one trade-off. You know, as we, you know, get disproportionate growth with Twisted Tea Extreme, we are also growing the lower ABV, Twisted Tea Light. There is that trade-off. Do people drink more liquid because if they're drinking Twisted Tea Light, because it's 4% ABV? Probably. Do they drink less with this Twisted Tea Extreme, which is 8% ABV? Probably. Ultimately, I can't give you a really good number, but it's certainly, those trade-offs are manageable. And as we're going into, you know, vodka-based or liquor-based products, there is some, you know, expectation of maybe slightly higher ABVs.

Speaker #11: You know, as we, you know, get disproportionate growth with Twisted Tea Extreme, we are also growing the lower ABV Twisted Tea Light. So there is that trade-off.

Speaker #11: Do people drink more liquid if they're drinking Twisted Tea Light because it's 4% ABV? Probably. Do they drink less with Twisted Tea Extreme?

Speaker #11: Which is 8% ABV? Probably. But so ultimately, I, I don't—I can't give you a really good number, but it's certainly—those trade-offs are manageable.

Speaker #11: And as we're going into, you know, vodka-based or liquor-based products, there is some, you know, expectation of maybe slightly higher ABVs. And hopefully, you know, we are sourcing that volume from spirits.

Jim Koch: Hopefully, you know, we are sourcing that volume from spirits. It's, there's probably some, you have to be right, there's some downward effect, but it's not really noticeable in the noise of the numbers.

James Koch: Hopefully, you know, we are sourcing that volume from spirits. It's, there's probably some, you have to be right, there's some downward effect, but it's not really noticeable in the noise of the numbers.

Speaker #11: So, there's probably some—you have to be right—there's some downward effect, but it's not really noticeable in the noise of the numbers.

Speaker #10: Okay, great. Thanks for that. I'll pass it on.

Michael Lavery: Okay, great. Thanks for that. I'll pass it on.

Speaker #6: And the next question comes from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: The next question comes from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #12: All right. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I just have a couple of quick follow-up questions to some earlier points. I guess, you know, Jim, I’ve talked to you about this in the past, just about, you know, the cost of growth, which is increasing.

Bonnie Herzog: All right. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I just have a couple of quick follow-up questions to some earlier points. I guess, you know, Jim, I've talked to you about this in the past, just about, you know, the cost of growth, which is increasing. I guess in the context of that, I did want to ask about, you know, gross margin improvements. You know, they've been impressive, you know, so far, so congratulations on that. You know, how should we think about the sustainability of your margins in the, you know, going forward? I guess, in the context of, you know, no volume growth. I mean, you're guiding at the high end flat, you know, so I'm just trying to think through that.

Speaker #12: So, I guess, in the context of that, I did want to ask about, you know, gross margin improvements. You know, they've been impressive so far.

Speaker #12: So, congratulations on that. But, you know, how should we think about the sustainability of your margins going forward? I guess in the context of, you know, no volume growth.

Speaker #12: I mean, you’re guiding at the high end, flat. You know, so I’m just trying to think through that. And should we just think about—I don’t know—last year, maybe this year still, as just big investment years as you kind of, you know, really invest in your business with the goal of returning to volume growth?

Bonnie Herzog: Should we just think about, I don't know, last year, maybe this year still, as just big investment years, as you kind of, you know, really invest in your business with the goal of returning to volume growth? I'm curious if you have a timeline of when we could expect to see that. Thanks.

Speaker #12: I'm curious if you have a timeline of when we could expect to see that. Thanks.

Speaker #10: Okay, so I'll take the first part of the margin question, and then I'll give Jim the volume part. So as we mentioned before, we had three buckets of savings.

Diego Reynoso: Okay, I'll take the first part of the margin question, and then I'll give Jim the volume part. As we mentioned before, we had three buckets of savings. We've really kind of two of them are really far ahead. We still have some opportunities we're going after this year and next for our footprint. We're also adding revenue management. We believe those pieces will be able to, in the short term, help us continue to improve our gross margin to be high forties, close to 50, despite where volume goes. I think I've always been straightforward in saying, like, we can get there without volume. To get past it, volume's important.

Speaker #10: We've really kind of, exce— two of them are really far ahead. We still have some opportunities we're going after this year and next, for our footprint.

Speaker #10: We're also adding revenue management. So, we believe those pieces will be able to, in the short term, help us continue to improve our gross margin.

Speaker #10: To be high 40s, close to 50. Despite where volume goes. And I think I've always been straightforward in saying, like, we can get there without volume to get past that—volume's important.

Diego Reynoso: Now, below gross margin, we are investing last year in this, and we're doing the same this year in our brands, because we believe that gaining share, like we did last year and we're planning to do this year, in the current market, is the best way to set ourselves up for success and continue to innovate. I think that's where we believe it's the right thing to do right now for the future. Now, I will hand it off to Jim to give an idea of where he sees that going forward.

Speaker #10: Now, below gross margin, we are investing last year in this, and we're doing the same this year. In our brands, because we believe that gaining share, like we did last year, and we're planning to do this year, in the current market, is the best way to set ourselves up for success and continue to innovate.

Speaker #10: And I think that's where we believe it's the right thing to do right now for the future. Now, I will hand that off to Jim to give an idea of where he sees that going forward.

Jim Koch: To me, there is both one-time savings on the cost of goods sold, which we're seeing those come in almost surprisingly strongly this year. Our plans for next year are not quite as big, but they're still pretty aggressive. The one-time savings will eventually, we'll exhaust those. I believe there should be significant, call it 3% a year, input productivity savings, which I think you would find in most of the manufacturing sector. Even in highly developed countries, there are just always more efficiencies to be gained. It's just, productivity in the economy goes up every year, the manufacturing productivity goes up faster than service productivity.

James Koch: To me, there is both one-time savings on the cost of goods sold, which we're seeing those come in almost surprisingly strongly this year. Our plans for next year are not quite as big, but they're still pretty aggressive. The one-time savings will eventually, we'll exhaust those. I believe there should be significant, call it 3% a year, input productivity savings, which I think you would find in most of the manufacturing sector. Even in highly developed countries, there are just always more efficiencies to be gained. It's just, productivity in the economy goes up every year, the manufacturing productivity goes up faster than service productivity.

Speaker #11: To me, there is, you know, both one-time savings on the cost of goods sold, which—we're seeing those come in almost surprisingly strongly this year.

Speaker #11: And, and our plans for next year are not quite as big, but there's still pretty you know, pretty aggressive and then and, and but the one-time savings will eventually will exhaust those.

Speaker #11: But I believe there should be significant—call it 3% a year—input productivity savings, which I think you would find in most of the manufacturing sector, even in highly developed countries.

Speaker #11: There are just always more efficiencies to be gained. It's just, you know, productivity in the economy goes up every year, and the manufacturing productivity goes up faster than service productivity.

Speaker #11: So, it's not out of the question to say we can take 3% out of our manufacturing costs, sort of forever. So that's how I would view that.

Jim Koch: It's not out of the question to say we can take 3% out of our manufacturing costs sort of forever. That's how I would view that. You know, it has given us fuel last year and this year, these one-time savings to increase our brand support. The rough numbers, you're talking maybe $50+ million in 2025 and maybe 30 in 2026. You know, $80 million or so. And that, in some ways, is the cost of growth. We are, as a company, just, you know, temperamentally and structurally oriented to try to drive growth. And you know, you and I have talked about it, and growth is, I guess my view is growth is not cheap, but decline is really not cheap.

James Koch: It's not out of the question to say we can take 3% out of our manufacturing costs sort of forever. That's how I would view that. You know, it has given us fuel last year and this year, these one-time savings to increase our brand support. The rough numbers, you're talking maybe $50+ million in 2025 and maybe 30 in 2026. You know, $80 million or so. And that, in some ways, is the cost of growth. We are, as a company, just, you know, temperamentally and structurally oriented to try to drive growth. And you know, you and I have talked about it, and growth is, I guess my view is growth is not cheap, but decline is really not cheap.

Speaker #11: You know, it has given us fuel last year and this year—these one-time savings—to increase our brand support. The rough, rough numbers, you're talking maybe $50-plus million in 2025, and maybe $30 million in 2026.

Speaker #11: So you know, $80 million or so, and that in some ways is the cost of growth. We are, as a company, just, you know, temperamentally and structurally oriented to try to drive growth.

Speaker #11: And I—you know, you and I have talked about it. Growth is, I guess, my view is, growth is not cheap, but decline is really not cheap.

Speaker #12: Right. Right.

Bonnie Herzog: Yeah.

Speaker #11: So that's how I think about it.

Jim Koch: That's how I think about it.

James Koch: That's how I think about it.

Bonnie Herzog: All right.

Speaker #10: Yeah. The one piece I would le sorry. I was going to add at the end, Bonnie, is obviously, if as we go forward in the next few years, how we see that trend, we have the ability to change that strategy, either double down or back off.

Diego Reynoso: Yeah, the one piece I was going to add at the end, Bonnie, is obviously, if as we go forward in the next few years, how we see that trend, we have the ability to change that strategy, either double down or back off. I would say it's the right thing that we believe for right now, and that's why we're guiding to where we're guiding. It doesn't mean that as we go forward, based on where the industry is, and we are a company, we have the ability to go one way or the other.

Speaker #10: So, I would say it's the right thing that we believe for, for right now. And that's why we're guiding to where we're guiding. But it doesn't mean that as we go forward, based on where the industry is—and we are a company—we have the ability to go one way or the other.

Speaker #12: All right. I appreciate that. Thank you.

Bonnie Herzog: All right, I appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker #10: Yeah. That's an important statement, actually, Bonnie, that Diego just made. If we came to believe that there was no possibility of growth in our category and our business.

Jim Koch: Yeah, that's an important statement, actually, Bonnie, that Diego just made. If we came to believe that there was no possibility of growth in our category and our business.

James Koch: Yeah, that's an important statement, actually, Bonnie, that Diego just made. If we came to believe that there was no possibility of growth in our category and our business.

Bonnie Herzog: Mm-hmm.

Jim Koch: A lot of costs come out.

Speaker #10: Then a lot of costs come out.

James Koch: A lot of costs come out.

Speaker #12: Okay. Makes sense. Thanks again.

Bonnie Herzog: Okay. Makes sense. Thanks again.

Speaker #13: Okay, and at this point, there are no further questions, so that concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jim for any closing comments.

Operator: Okay. At this point, there are no further questions. That concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jim for any closing comments.

Speaker #10: Well, thank you to everybody for joining us this afternoon. And we look forward to talking to you in, I guess, it's about two more months.

Jim Koch: Well, thank you to everybody for joining us this afternoon, and we look forward to talking to you in, I guess it's about two more months. Thanks, and I hope everybody's dug out of the snow.

James Koch: Well, thank you to everybody for joining us this afternoon, and we look forward to talking to you in, I guess it's about two more months. Thanks, and I hope everybody's dug out of the snow.

Speaker #10: So, thanks, and I hope everybody's dug out of the snow.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference today. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.

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