Q1 2026 PulteGroup Inc Earnings Call

April 23, 2026

Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. My name is Kelvin, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the PulteGroup Inc. Q1 2026 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to James Zeumer, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

James Zeumer: Thank you, Kelvin, and good morning. I want to welcome everyone to today's call to review PulteGroup's operating and financial results for our Q1 ended 31 March 2026. Joining me on today's call are Ryan Marshall, President and CEO, Jim Ossowski, Executive Vice President and CFO, and David Carrier, Senior Vice President of Finance. In advance of this call, a copy of our Q1 earnings release and this morning's webcast presentation have been posted to our corporate website at pultegroup.com. We will also post an audio replay of this call later today. I would highlight that today's presentation includes forward-looking statements about the company's expected future performance. Actual results could differ materially from those suggested by our comments made today. The most significant risk factors that could affect future results are summarized as part of today's earnings release and within the accompanying presentation.

James Zeumer: In advance of this call, a copy of our Q1 earnings release and this morning's webcast presentation have been posted to our corporate website at pultegroup.com. We will also post an audio replay of this call later today. I would highlight that today's presentation includes forward-looking statements about the company's expected future performance.

James Zeumer: Actual results could differ materially from those suggested by our comments made today. The most significant risk factors that could affect future results are summarized as part of today's earnings release and within the accompanying presentation. These risk factors and other key information are detailed in our SEC filings, including our annual and quarterly reports. Now let me turn the call over to Ryan. Ryan?

James Zeumer: These risk factors and other key information are detailed in our SEC filings, including our annual and quarterly reports. Now let me turn the call over to Ryan. Ryan?

Ryan Marshall: Thanks, Jim, and good morning. At last week's quarterly operations review meeting, I made the following statement to the senior leaders of PulteGroup's home building and financial services operations. In a quarter that grew increasingly more complicated, you delivered exceptional results both operationally and financially. I offer the same thoughts to open this call. In a period that saw every aspect of our consumers' lives impacted by domestic and global events, our discipline, focus, and proven business platform allowed us to deliver another quarter of strong business performance. Financially, our $3.3 billion in home sale revenues, 24.4% gross margins, and lower share count all contributed to driving earnings of $1.79 per share. Supported by the ongoing strength of our operations, we positioned the company for future growth by investing $1.3 billion in land acquisition and development while returning $360 million to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends.

Ryan Marshall: Financially, our $3.3 billion in home sale revenues, 24.4% gross margins, and lower share count all contributed to driving earnings of $1.79 per share. Supported by the ongoing strength of our operations, we positioned the company for future growth by investing $1.3 billion in land acquisition and development while returning $360 million to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends.

Ryan Marshall: After having allocated $1.7 billion to these activities, we ended the quarter with $1.8 billion of cash and a net debt-to-capital ratio of effectively zero. Operationally, we were successful in growing our community count, which was an important driver of our 3% increase in net new orders. As shown in this morning's release, our results benefited from 18% order growth in Florida as our diversified business platform and exceptional land positions continued to deliver strong results. As pleased as I am with the growth in orders, I'm even more encouraged with the fact that many of these homes are built-to-order homes. In Q1, built-to-order homes accounted for 43% of net new orders, up from 40% in Q1 of last year.

Ryan Marshall: As pleased as I am with the growth in orders, I'm even more encouraged with the fact that many of these homes are built-to-order homes. In Q1, built-to-order homes accounted for 43% of net new orders, up from 40% in Q1 of last year. On our last earnings call, we outlined our plans to shift our business back toward our historic mix of 60% built to order and 40% spec. This quarter was just a first step in a process that will take several quarters to complete, but I am encouraged by such early success.

Ryan Marshall: On our last earnings call, we outlined our plans to shift our business back toward our historic mix of 60% built to order and 40% spec. This quarter was just a first step in a process that will take several quarters to complete, but I am encouraged by such early success. Finally, I would highlight the progress we continue to make on lowering our spec inventory, particularly our finished inventory. Reflecting actions taken by our field teams, we ended the quarter with an average of 1.4 finished specs per community, which is inside our target range of 1 to 1.5 finished specs per community. This level of spec inventory allows us to effectively serve those homebuyers needing quick move-in homes while supporting our strategic shift back to selling more built-to-order homes.

Ryan Marshall: Finally, I would highlight the progress we continue to make on lowering our spec inventory, particularly our finished inventory. Reflecting actions taken by our field teams, we ended the quarter with an average of 1.4 finished specs per community, which is inside our target range of 1 to 1.5 finished specs per community. This level of spec inventory allows us to effectively serve those homebuyers needing quick move-in homes while supporting our strategic shift back to selling more built-to-order homes.

Ryan Marshall: Overall, I would say that Q1 developed as a typical spring selling season, with orders increasing sequentially as we moved through the months. It is difficult to determine what impact global events may have had, but I appreciate that consumers were facing higher rates and costs in March. Through the first few weeks of April, demand conditions have remained on track with typical seasonal trends. Still, in the quarter, we experienced strong buyer traffic to our communities and sold more than 8,000 homes, which says consumers remain actively engaged in home buying. Once again, our diversified business platform allowed us to capture the strongest segments of the business, namely the move-up and active adult buyers. Economic reports talk to the K-shaped economy and how lower- and middle-income families are struggling much more than those in upper incomes.

Speaker #2: determine what impact global events may have had, but appreciate consumers were facing higher rates and costs in March. Through the first few weeks of April, demand conditions have remained on track, with typical seasonal trends.

Ryan Marshall: Still, in the quarter, we experienced strong buyer traffic to our communities and sold more than 8,000 homes, which says consumers remain actively engaged in home buying. Once again, our diversified business platform allowed us to capture the strongest segments of the business, namely the move-up and active adult buyers. Economic reports talk to the K-shaped economy and how lower- and middle-income families are struggling much more than those in upper incomes.

Ryan Marshall: Housing demand over the past 2 years has been consistent with these dynamics. We saw this play out again in our Q1 results, with both relative demand strength in our move-up and active adult businesses, and option and lot premium spend that continues to average over $100,000 per home. However, on the lower leg of the K, first-time buyers continued to struggle with the challenges of stretched affordability and fear of job loss. Our ability to offer low fixed-rate mortgages and other incentives is certainly helping solve the affordability riddle for some. This comes at a price, as incentives in the quarter reach 10.9% of gross sales price. Even at this level, I think we have done an excellent job of balancing the need to sell homes, particularly finished spec homes, and turn our inventory while maintaining higher margins in support of delivering strong returns on invested capital.

Ryan Marshall: Our ability to offer low fixed-rate mortgages and other incentives is certainly helping solve the affordability riddle for some. This comes at a price, as incentives in the quarter reach 10.9% of gross sales price. Even at this level, I think we have done an excellent job of balancing the need to sell homes, particularly finished spec homes, and turn our inventory while maintaining higher margins in support of delivering strong returns on invested capital.

Speaker #2: this comes at a price as incentives in the quarter reach $10.9% of gross sales price. Even at this level, I think we have done an excellent job of balancing the need to sell homes—particularly finished spec homes—and turn our inventory, while maintaining higher margins and supportive delivering strong returns on invested capital.

Ryan Marshall: A critical support to this balance has been our ongoing willingness to adjust our starts pace in alignment with core demand. We again demonstrated such discipline as we started approximately 6,500 homes against orders of 8,000 homes in the quarter. This approach helped us to clear excess inventory, and allow our communities to more easily sell from a position of strength while still providing sufficient production to achieve expected closing volumes for the full year. While there is uncertainty about how events will develop over the next few quarters, I remain optimistic about long-term housing demand and confident about the strength of our business model. I could draft a long list of our strengths, but would highlight the following three key points.

Ryan Marshall: While there is uncertainty about how events will develop over the next few quarters, I remain optimistic about long-term housing demand and confident about the strength of our business model. I could draft a long list of our strengths, but would highlight the following three key points. We control approximately 230,000 lots, including 35,000 owned and finished lots, so we have a land pipeline that we believe can meet current sales and accelerate as buyer demand improves going forward.

Ryan Marshall: We control approximately 230,000 lots, including 35,000 owned and finished lots, so we have a land pipeline that we believe can meet current sales and accelerate as buyer demand improves going forward. We have a strong market presence across the major markets and an unmatched ability to serve all buyer groups. We are benefiting currently from having 60% of our business among more affluent Pulte and Del Webb buyers, but we fully appreciate the importance of maintaining the presence of our Centex brand among first-time buyers. Finally, we have a culture that is committed to delivering superior build quality and buyer experience, and to raising that bar every day. Thank you, and let me turn the call over to Jim Ossowski for a review of our Q1 results. Jim?

Ryan Marshall: We have a strong market presence across the major markets and an unmatched ability to serve all buyer groups. We are benefiting currently from having 60% of our business among more affluent Pulte and Del Webb buyers, but we fully appreciate the importance of maintaining the presence of our Centex brand among first-time buyers. Finally, we have a culture that is committed to delivering superior build quality and buyer experience, and to raising that bar every day. Thank you, and let me turn the call over to Jim Ossowski for a review of our Q1 results. Jim?

Jim Ossowski: Thank you, Ryan, and good morning. I look forward to providing a detailed review of PulteGroup's solid Q1 operating and financial results. On a year-over-year basis, Q1 net new orders increased 3% to 8,034 homes with a value of $4.6 billion. Higher net new orders in the period benefited from a 9% increase in average community count to 1,043, while absorption paces decreased by 5% to 2.6 homes per month. I would highlight that the growth in our net new orders was driven by the ongoing strength of our Florida operations. I am pleased to report that orders increased in every Florida market and were up 18% statewide. In addition to gradual improvements in Florida's new and existing home inventories, our strong performance reflects PulteGroup's superior land positions, our ability to serve all buyer groups, and our outstanding leadership teams.

On a year-over-year basis. The first quarter, net new orders, increased 3% to 8,034 homes with a value of 4.6 billion.

higher and net new orders in the period benefited from a 9% increase in average Community count to 1043, while absorption Paces decreased by 5% to 2.6 homes per month,

Jim Ossowski: I would highlight that the growth in our net new orders was driven by the ongoing strength of our Florida operations. I am pleased to report that orders increased in every Florida market and were up 18% statewide. In addition to gradual improvements in Florida's new and existing home inventories, our strong performance reflects PulteGroup's superior land positions, our ability to serve all buyer groups, and our outstanding leadership teams.

I would highlight that the growth in our net new orders was driven by the ongoing strength of our Florida operation.

I am pleased to report that orders increased in every Florida market and were up 18% Statewide.

In addition to gradual improvements in Florida's, new and existing home inventories are strong performance, reflects policy, groups Superior land positions. Our ability to serve all buyer groups and our outstanding leadership teams

Jim Ossowski: Our cancellation rate as a percentage of starting backlog in the quarter was 13%, compared with 11% last year. The percentage increase in our cancellation rate reflects the smaller starting backlog we had entering the period, as unit cancellations are actually slightly down in the quarter relative to last year. In Q1, net new orders among move-up and active adult buyers were higher by 3% and 14%, respectively, over Q1 of last year. Net new orders among first-time buyers decreased by less than 1% from Q1 of last year. By buyer group, net new orders in Q1 consisted of 38% first time, 39% move-up, and 23% active adult. In Q1 of 2025, our net new orders were 39% first time, 40% move-up, and 21% active adult.

Our cancellation rate as a percentage is starting backlog on the court was 13% compared with 11% last year.

Patients are actually slightly down in the quarter relative to last year.

In the first quarter, net new orders among move up, and active adult buyers, were hired by 3% and 14% respectively over the first quarter of last year.

Net new orders, among first-time buyers, decreased by less than 1% from q1 of last year.

Jim Ossowski: By buyer group, net new orders in Q1 consisted of 38% first time, 39% move-up, and 23% active adult. In Q1 of 2025, our net new orders were 39% first time, 40% move-up, and 21% active adult. Net new orders benefited from land investments made in prior years as we grew community count across all buyer groups. Home sale revenues in Q1 were $3.3 billion, compared with $3.7 billion last year.

By buyer group, net, new orders. In the first quarter consisted of 38%, first time, 39% move up and 23% active adult.

Jim Ossowski: Net new orders benefited from land investments made in prior years as we grew community count across all buyer groups. Home sale revenues in Q1 were $3.3 billion, compared with $3.7 billion last year. Lower home sale revenues for the period were the result of a 7% decrease in closings to 6,102 homes, in combination with a 5% decrease in average sales price to $542,000. ASP was down mid-single digits across each buyer group and reflects the generally competitive conditions and elevated incentives that exist in many markets across the country. By buyer group, closings in Q1 break down as follows, 38% first time, 39% move-up, and 23% active adult. This compares with a prior year closing mix of 38% first time, 41% move-up, and 21% active adult.

In the first quarter of 2025 our net new orders were 39% first time, 40% move up in 21%, active adult.

net new orders benefited from Land Investments made in Prior years, as we grew Community count across all buyer groups,

Jim Ossowski: Lower home sale revenues for the period were the result of a 7% decrease in closings to 6,102 homes, in combination with a 5% decrease in average sales price to $542,000. ASP was down mid-single digits across each buyer group and reflects the generally competitive conditions and elevated incentives that exist in many markets across the country.

Home sale revenues in the first quarter were 3.3 billion compared with 3.7 billion dollars last year.

Lower home sale revenues for the period were the result of a 7% decrease in closings—the 6,120 homes—in combination with a 5% decrease in average sales price to $542,000.

ASP was down mid single digits across each buyer group and reflects the generally competitive conditions and elevated incentives. That exist in many markets across the country.

Jim Ossowski: By buyer group, closings in Q1 break down as follows, 38% first time, 39% move-up, and 23% active adult. This compares with a prior year closing mix of 38% first time, 41% move-up, and 21% active adult. Based on sales and closings in the period, at the end of Q1, our backlog was 10,427 homes with a value of $6.5 billion. We ended the first quarter with 14,090 homes in production, of which 6,349 were spec homes. As Ryan highlighted, consistent with our stated objective, we lowered total spec inventory by almost 900 homes from the end of 2025.

By buyer group closings, in the first quarter breakdown as follows 38% first time, 39% move up and 23% active adults.

This Compares with the prior year closing mix of 38% first time 41%, move up and 21%, active adult.

Jim Ossowski: Based on sales and closings in the period, at the end of Q1, our backlog was 10,427 homes with a value of $6.5 billion. We ended the first quarter with 14,090 homes in production, of which 6,349 were spec homes. As Ryan highlighted, consistent with our stated objective, we lowered total spec inventory by almost 900 homes from the end of 2025. At quarter end, specs accounted for 45% of homes under construction. Of the specs under production, there were 1,515 finished spec homes, which is a decrease of nearly 500 homes or 24% in just the past 90 days. At this level, we are in our target range of having an average of one to 1.5 finished specs per community. Based on the homes under construction and their stage of production, we expect to close between 6,700 and 7,100 homes in the second quarter of 2026.

Based on sales and closings in the period at the end of q1. Our backlog was 10,427 homes with a value of 6.5 billion.

We ended the first quarter with 14,090 homes in production of which 6,349 respect homes.

Jim Ossowski: At quarter end, specs accounted for 45% of homes under construction. Of the specs under production, there were 1,515 finished spec homes, which is a decrease of nearly 500 homes or 24% in just the past 90 days. At this level, we are in our target range of having an average of one to 1.5 finished specs per community. Based on the homes under construction and their stage of production, we expect to close between 6,700 and 7,100 homes in the second quarter of 2026.

as Ryan highlighted, a consistent with our stated objective, we lowered total spec inventory by almost 900 homes from the end of 2025,

At quarter, end specs, accounted for 45% of homes under construction.

Of this spec Center production. There were 1,515 finished spec homes which is a decrease of nearly 500 homes for 24%. In just the past 90 days,

At this level, we are in our target range of having an average of 1 to 1.5 finish specs per community.

Jim Ossowski: This keeps us on track with our previous guidance on closings in the range of 28,500 to 29,000 homes for full year 2026. Consistent with the guidance provided on our last earnings call, given land investments made in prior years, we expect year-over-year community count growth of 3% to 5% in each of the remaining three quarters of 2026. Given competitive market conditions and our belief that incentives will remain elevated, we expect the average sales price of Q2 closings to be in the range of $540,000 to $550,000. For the full year 2026, we reaffirm our previous guidance of ASP of $550,000 to $560,000, as we expect a higher mix of build-to-order closings in the Q3 and Q4. For the Q1, we reported gross margin of 24.4%, which is down from 27.5% in the Q1 of 2025.

Based on the homes, under construction and their stage of production. We expect to close between 6,700 and 7,100 homes in the second quarter of 2026.

This keeps us on track, with our previous guidance on closings, in the range of 28,500 to 29,000 homes for full year 2026.

Consistent with the guidance provided on our last earnings call, given land investments made in prior years, we expect year-over-year community count growth of 3% to 5% in each of the remaining three quarters of 2026.

Jim Ossowski: For the full year 2026, we reaffirm our previous guidance of ASP of $550,000 to $560,000, as we expect a higher mix of build-to-order closings in the Q3 and Q4. For the Q1, we reported gross margin of 24.4%, which is down from 27.5% in the Q1 of 2025. The year-over-year decline in gross margin primarily reflects higher incentives, which were 10.9% of gross sales price in Q1 2026. This is an increase of 290 basis points from last year and is up 100 basis points sequentially from Q4 2025.

Given competitive market conditions and our belief that incentives will remain elevated, we expect the average sales price of second quarter closings to be in the range of $540,000 to $550,000.

For the full year 2026, we reaffirm our previous guidance of ASP of $550,000 to $560,000, as we expect a higher mix of build order closings in the third and fourth quarters.

Jim Ossowski: The year-over-year decline in gross margin primarily reflects higher incentives, which were 10.9% of gross sales price in Q1 2026. This is an increase of 290 basis points from last year and is up 100 basis points sequentially from Q4 2025. As we're getting the question more frequently of late, I would note that within our Q1 home sale cost of revenues, is approximately $6 million or 20 basis points associated with land impairments. Based on quarterly testing, impairments were triggered in two communities and are reflective of today's competitive market dynamics in combination with our ongoing efforts to clear excess spec inventory, particularly finished specs.

For the first quarter, we reported a gross margin of 24.4%, which is down from 27.5% in the first quarter of 2025.

the year-over-year decline in gross margin primarily reflects higher incentives, which were 10.9% of gross sales pricing q1 2026,

This is an increase of of 290 basis points from last year and is up 100 basis. Points sequentially from Q4 to 20225.

Jim Ossowski: As we're getting the question more frequently of late, I would note that within our Q1 home sale cost of revenues, is approximately $6 million or 20 basis points associated with land impairments. Based on quarterly testing, impairments were triggered in two communities and are reflective of today's competitive market dynamics in combination with our ongoing efforts to clear excess spec inventory, particularly finished specs.

As you are getting the question more frequently of late, I would note that within our Q1 home sale, cost of revenues is approximately $6 million, or 20 basis points, associated with land impairments.

Really finished specs.

Jim Ossowski: I'm pleased to report that thanks to a lot of outstanding work by our construction and procurement teams, Q1 house costs were down 5% from Q1 last year to $75/sq ft. Savings were led by lower lumber costs, but we have also achieved savings across a wide array of building products and services. Based on anticipated closing mix and current selling conditions, we expect Q2 gross margin to be in the range of 24.1% to 24.4%. I would note that we expect Q2 gross margins to be the low point for 2026. We are forecasting gross margins to recover in H2 as we benefit from increased closings of higher-margin, active adult, and built-to-order homes.

I'm pleased to report that thanks to a lot of outstanding work by our construction and procurement teams. Q1 house costs were down 5% from the first quarter of last year, the 55.00 per square foot.

Savings were led by lower Lumber costs but we have also achieved savings across a wide array of building products and services.

Jim Ossowski: I would note that we expect Q2 gross margins to be the low point for 2026. We are forecasting gross margins to recover in H2 as we benefit from increased closings of higher-margin, active adult, and built-to-order homes. As such, we maintain our guide for full-year 2026 gross margin to be in the range of 24.5% to 25.0%, although likely towards the lower end of the range. Q1 homebuilding SG&A expense of $380 million, or 11.5% of home sale revenues, compared with $393 million, or 10.5%, in Q1 of last year.

Based on anticipated, closing mix and current selling conditions. We expect second quarter gross margin to be in the range of 24.1% to 24.4%

I would note that we expect Q2 gross margins to be the low point for 2026.

Jim Ossowski: As such, we maintain our guide for full-year 2026 gross margin to be in the range of 24.5% to 25.0%, although likely towards the lower end of the range. Q1 homebuilding SG&A expense of $380 million, or 11.5% of home sale revenues, compared with $393 million, or 10.5%, in Q1 of last year. On a dollar basis, our SG&A expense in the quarter was down $13 million from last year, but we lost leverage given fewer home closings and revenues in the period. Q1 SG&A expense was in line with prior guidance, so we are maintaining our guidance for full-year 2026 expense to be in the range of 9.5% to 9.7% of home sale revenues. Pulte's financial services operations reported Q1 pre-tax income of $13 million, which is down from pre-tax income of $36 million in Q1 2025.

We are forecasting gross. Margins to recover in the back, half of the year as we benefit from increased closings of higher margin, active adults and built to order homes.

As such, we maintain our guide for full year, 2026 gross margin to be in the range of 24.5% to 25.0%, although likely toward the lower end of the range.

Jim Ossowski: On a dollar basis, our SG&A expense in the quarter was down $13 million from last year, but we lost leverage given fewer home closings and revenues in the period. Q1 SG&A expense was in line with prior guidance, so we are maintaining our guidance for full-year 2026 expense to be in the range of 9.5% to 9.7% of home sale revenues. Pulte's financial services operations reported Q1 pre-tax income of $13 million, which is down from pre-tax income of $36 million in Q1 2025.

First quarter Homebuilding SG&A expense was $380 million, or 11.5% of home sale revenues, compared with $393 million, or 10.5%, in Q1 of last year.

On a dollar basis or sg&a expense in the quarter was down 13 million from last year what we lost leverage given fewer home closings and revenues in the period.

First quarter SG&A expense was in line with prior guidance, so we are maintaining our guidance for the full year. 2026 expense is expected to be in the range of 9.5% to 9.7% of home sale revenues.

Jim Ossowski: Financial services pre-tax income in Q1 was impacted by lower homebuilding volumes and reduced capture rate, along with lower net gains from the sale of mortgages. Mortgage capture rate in the period was 85%, compared with 86% last year. Q1 pre-tax income for PulteGroup was $449 million. In the period, we recorded a tax expense of $102 million, or an effective tax rate of 22.8%. Our Q1 tax rate reflects the benefits of stock-based compensation and federal tax credits. Looking out to the remainder of the year, we continue to expect our tax rate to be approximately 24.5%. Our expected tax rate does not take into consideration any discrete, period-specific tax events that might occur. PulteGroup's net income for Q1 was $347 million, or $1.79 per share. In the comparable prior year period, the company reported net income of $523 million, or $2.57 per share.

Whole these Financial Services operations, reported first quarter pre-tax income of 13 million, which is down from ptax, income of 36 million in the first quarter of 2025.

Financial Services pre-tax income in the first quarter was impacted by lower Homebuilding volumes and reduced capture rate, along with lower net gains from the sale of mortgages.

Mortgage capture rate in the period was 85% compared with 86% last year.

First quarter of pretext income, for pter group, was 449 million.

In the period, we recorded a tax expense of 102 million for an effective tax rate of 22.8%.

Jim Ossowski: Looking out to the remainder of the year, we continue to expect our tax rate to be approximately 24.5%. Our expected tax rate does not take into consideration any discrete, period-specific tax events that might occur. PulteGroup's net income for Q1 was $347 million, or $1.79 per share. In the comparable prior year period, the company reported net income of $523 million, or $2.57 per share.

A Q1 tax rate reflects the benefits of stock-based compensation and federal tax credits.

Looking out to the remainder of the year, we continue to expect our tax rate to be approximately 24.5%.

our expected tax rate does not take into consideration any discrete period, specific, tax events that might occur

Fully groups, net income for the first quarter. Was 347 million or 1.79 cents per share?

In the comparable prior year period, the company reported net income of 523 million or $257 per share.

Jim Ossowski: Earnings per share for Q1 was calculated based on 193 million diluted shares outstanding, which is down 5% from the prior year. In Q1, we repurchased 2.4 million common shares for $308 million, which brings total repurchases for the trailing 12 months to 10.3 million common shares for $1.2 billion. In a separate press release we issued this morning, we announced that our board authorized an additional $1.5 billion for share repurchases, which brings total availability to $2.1 billion. Along with returning capital to shareholders, we continue to prioritize investing in the growth of our operations. In Q1, we invested $1.3 billion in land acquisition and development, which was evenly split between the two activities. We entered Q1 with 229,000 lots under control, which is down approximately 5,000 lots from the end of 2025.

Earnings per share for the first quarter was calculated based on 193 million diluted shares outstanding which is down 5% from the prior year.

In the first quarter, we repurchased 2.4 million common shares for $300.8 million, which brings total repurchases for the trailing 12 months to 10.3 million common shares for $1.2 billion.

In a separate, press release. We issued this morning, we announced that our board authorized an additional 1.5 billion for share repurchases, which brings total availability to 2.1 billion dollars.

Jim Ossowski: In Q1, we invested $1.3 billion in land acquisition and development, which was evenly split between the two activities. We entered Q1 with 229,000 lots under control, which is down approximately 5,000 lots from the end of 2025. We remain focused and disciplined in our land activities as we look for opportunities to grow our business while achieving acceptable risk-adjusted returns and managing overall portfolio risk.

Along with returning Capital shareholders, we continue to prioritize investing in the growth of our operations.

In the first quarter, we invested 1.3 billion in land acquisition and development which was evenly split between the 2 activities.

Jim Ossowski: We remain focused and disciplined in our land activities as we look for opportunities to grow our business while achieving acceptable risk-adjusted returns and managing overall portfolio risk. After 24 months of variable housing demand and limited opportunities for price appreciation, land inflation has started to ease. We are seeing land prices stabilize in many parts of the country and even move lower in individual deals in a handful of markets. Every land deal is different, and A locations are still in demand, but we are finding more opportunities to negotiate improved land terms, be it the price, the timing, or both. In Q1, we issued $800 million of senior notes, split equally in tranches of five and 10 years. We used approximately $600 million of the proceeds to repay existing notes, with the remaining $200 million to be used for general corporate purposes.

We entered the first quarter with 229,000, lots under control, which is down approximately 5,000, Lots from the end of 2025.

Jim Ossowski: After 24 months of variable housing demand and limited opportunities for price appreciation, land inflation has started to ease. We are seeing land prices stabilize in many parts of the country and even move lower in individual deals in a handful of markets. Every land deal is different, and A locations are still in demand, but we are finding more opportunities to negotiate improved land terms, be it the price, the timing, or both. In Q1, we issued $800 million of senior notes, split equally in tranches of five and 10 years.

We remain focused and disciplined in our land activities as we look for opportunities to grow our business while achieving acceptable risk-adjusted returns and managing overall portfolio risk.

After 24 months of variable housing demand and limited opportunities for price appreciation, land inflation has started to ease.

We are seeing land prices stabilized in many parts of the country and even move lower in individual deals, in a handful of markets.

More opportunities to negotiate improved land terms, be at the price the timing or both.

Jim Ossowski: We used approximately $600 million of the proceeds to repay existing notes, with the remaining $200 million to be used for general corporate purposes. Inclusive of these transactions, we ended Q1 with a debt-to-capital ratio of 12.3%. Adjusting for the $1.8 billion of cash we held at Q1-end, our net debt-to-capital ratio was effectively zero. Given current market dynamics and our expected 3% to 5% growth in community count, we are projecting land acquisition and development spend of $5.4 billion in 2026.

In the first quarter, we issued $800 million of senior notes. Split equally in tranches of 5 and 10 years.

We used approximately 600 million of the proceeds repay existing notes with the remaining $200 million to be used for General Corporate purposes.

Jim Ossowski: Inclusive of these transactions, we ended Q1 with a debt-to-capital ratio of 12.3%. Adjusting for the $1.8 billion of cash we held at Q1-end, our net debt-to-capital ratio was effectively zero. Given current market dynamics and our expected 3% to 5% growth in community count, we are projecting land acquisition and development spend of $5.4 billion in 2026. Assuming this level of land spend and the expectation that house inventory will increase commensurate with an increasing level of built-to-order home sales, we would expect 2026 cash flow generation to be approximately $1 billion. Overall, it was another very productive quarter for the company. Now, let me turn the call back to Ryan.

Inclusive of these transactions, we ended the first quarter with a debt-to-capital ratio of 12.3%.

Adjusting for the 1.8 billion dollars of cash, we held a quarter end, our net debt that the capital ratio was effectively zero.

Giving current market dynamics, and are expected. 3% to 5% growth in community count, we are projecting land, acquisition and development, spend of 5.4 billion in 2026.

Jim Ossowski: Assuming this level of land spend and the expectation that house inventory will increase commensurate with an increasing level of built-to-order home sales, we would expect 2026 cash flow generation to be approximately $1 billion. Overall, it was another very productive quarter for the company. Now, let me turn the call back to Ryan.

Assuming this level of land spend and the expectation that house inventory will increase commensurate with an increasing level of built to order home sales. We would expect 2026 cash flow generation to be approximately 1 million dollars.

Ryan Marshall: Thanks, Jim. Before opening the call to questions, I will offer a few additional comments on demand conditions in the quarter. Given everything that is happening in the world, demand has actually held up better than might be expected and could certainly improve if global tensions eased and interest rates came back towards 6%. This would be highly consistent with the increased buyer activity we saw developing early in Q1 when mortgage rates dipped below 6%. Consistent with trends we experienced in H2 2025, the pockets of home buying demand strength and softness didn't change dramatically. Home buying demand in our Northeast, Southeast, and Florida markets generally remained positive. Q1 demand in the Midwest was more variable across the markets than we had been experiencing.

Overall, it was another very productive quarter for the company. Now, let me turn the call back to Ryan.

Ryan Marshall: This would be highly consistent with the increased buyer activity we saw developing early in Q1 when mortgage rates dipped below 6%. Consistent with trends we experienced in H2 2025, the pockets of home buying demand strength and softness didn't change dramatically. Home buying demand in our Northeast, Southeast, and Florida markets generally remained positive. Q1 demand in the Midwest was more variable across the markets than we had been experiencing.

Thanks, Jim. Before opening the call to questions, I will offer a few additional comments on demand conditions in the quarter. Given everything that is happening in the world, demand has actually held up better than might be expected and could certainly improve if global tensions eased and interest rates came back towards 6%.

This would be highly consistent with the increased buyer activity. We saw developing early in the first quarter when mortgage rates dip below 6%.

Consistent with Trends, we experienced in the back half of 2025, the pockets of home, buying demand strength, and softness didn't change dramatically.

Home. Buying demand in our northeast southeast and Florida markets. Generally remains positive.

Ryan Marshall: That being said, the weather conditions were a bit more extreme, so we'll have to see how the trends progress over the next couple of quarters. As I highlighted earlier, our Florida teams continue to operate at a high level as we benefit from a strong land pipeline and experienced leadership teams. Looking out to our Texas and West markets, overall demand trends remain slower relative to the rest of the country. I would suggest they may be finding more stable footing. Between ongoing pricing actions and incentives, the markets are finding clearing prices where transactions can happen. We still have work to do in clearing some final spec inventory in California and Washington, but I am hopeful we are getting to the end of this tunnel.

First quarter demand in the midwest, was more variable across the markets than we had been experiencing.

That being said, the weather conditions were a bit more extreme so we'll have to see how the trends progress over the next couple of quarters. As I highlighted earlier, our Florida teams continue to operate at a high level as we benefit from a strong land Pipeline and experienced leadership teams,

Ryan Marshall: Between ongoing pricing actions and incentives, the markets are finding clearing prices where transactions can happen. We still have work to do in clearing some final spec inventory in California and Washington, but I am hopeful we are getting to the end of this tunnel. One final comment I would share on buyer demand. Well-positioned communities that offer the right product and a compelling value equation to the consumer are selling homes. From Boston to Naples and Raleigh to San Jose, consumers are looking for the opportunity to buy homes that work for their stage of life and their financial capabilities. Our job is to make sure PulteGroup communities meet the requirements.

Looking out to our Texas and West markets overall demand Trends remain slower relative to the rest of the country but I would suggest they may be finding more stable footing.

Between ongoing pricing actions and incentives. The markets are finding clearing prices where transactions can happen.

Ryan Marshall: One final comment I would share on buyer demand. Well-positioned communities that offer the right product and a compelling value equation to the consumer are selling homes. From Boston to Naples and Raleigh to San Jose, consumers are looking for the opportunity to buy homes that work for their stage of life and their financial capabilities. Our job is to make sure PulteGroup communities meet the requirements. Let me close by thanking the entire PulteGroup organization for the great Q1 operating and financial results the company delivered. I also want to recognize our team for their tireless efforts to deliver a superior home buying experience. I'm proud to report that our customer surveys are now showing PulteGroup's Net Promoter Score, as measured one full year after the initial delivery of the home, has risen to a score of 65.

We still have work to do in clearing some spinal, final spec inventory in California and Washington but I am hopeful we are getting to the end of this tunnel.

One final comment I would share on buyer demand. Well-positioned communities that offer the right product and a compelling value equation to the consumer are selling homes.

From Boston to Naples and Raleigh to San Jose. Consumers are looking for the opportunity to buy homes that work for their stage of life and their financial capabilities.

Our job is to make sure fully group communities meet the requirements.

Ryan Marshall: Let me close by thanking the entire PulteGroup organization for the great Q1 operating and financial results the company delivered. I also want to recognize our team for their tireless efforts to deliver a superior home buying experience. I'm proud to report that our customer surveys are now showing PulteGroup's Net Promoter Score, as measured one full year after the initial delivery of the home, has risen to a score of 65.

Let me close by thanking the entire py group Organization for the great first quarter, operating and financial results. The company delivered.

I also want to recognize our team for their tireless efforts to deliver a superior home buying experience.

I'm proud to report that our customer surveys are now showing PulteGroup's net promoter score as measured one full year after the initial delivery of the home.

Ryan Marshall: To put this in perspective, these results place PulteGroup among such well-known service leaders as Apple, Google, and Chick-fil-A. It's this type of commitment to our customers and to each other that has PulteGroup again ranked among the Fortune 100 Best Companies to Work For. This marks PulteGroup's sixth year on this prestigious list. Our ranking on this list has never been a goal, but rather an outcome of the tremendous culture we work hard to maintain inside of our organization. Now let me turn the call over to Jim Zeumer.

Has risen to a score of 65.

To put this in perspective, these results Place policy group among such well-known, service. Leaders as Apple, Google and Chick-fil-A.

It's this type of commitment to our customers and to each other that has PulteGroup again ranked among the Fortune 100 Best Companies to Work For this March, PulteGroup's sixth year on this prestigious list.

James Zeumer: Great, thanks, Ryan. We're now prepared to open the call for questions so we can get to as many questions as possible during the remaining time of this call. We ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Kelvin, I now open the call to questions. Thank you.

Our ranking on this list is never been a goal or rather an outcome of the tremendous culture. We work hard to maintain maintain inside of our organization. Now let me turn the call over to Jim zeumer. Great, thanks, Ryan for now, prepared to open the call for questions, so we can get to it as many questions as possible. During the remaining time of this call, we ask that you limit yourself to 1 question 1, follow-up.

Kelvin can I open the call to questions? Thank you.

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John Lovallo: Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is, can you just help us with some of the moving pieces in the gross margin walk from roughly 24.4% in H1 to 24.5% to 25% for the full year? It certainly seems like closing mix is going to be a good guy. Stick and bricks could be a good guy. Land may be a little bit better than it had been. Then the incentive load, are you still assuming sort of 10.9 carries throughout the year?

Good morning guys. Uh, thanks for taking my questions. Um, the first 1 is, you know, can you just help us with some of the moving pieces in the in the gross margin walk from you know, roughly 24.4 in the first half to 24.5 to 25 for the full year. I mean, it certain seems like closing mix is going to be a good guy stick and Bricks could be a good guy land, maybe a little bit better than it had been. Um, and then the incentive loader, you still assuming sort of 10.9 carries, uh, throughout the year.

Ryan Marshall: Yeah. John, I think you've got all the right pieces there. We are assuming a higher incentive load, but we'd expect it to likely come down, driven by a couple of factors. One would be more built-to-order and more move-up in active adult business, where we tend to incentivize less. We've also cleared a lot of the finished spec inventory, which we're carrying higher incentive loads. So while we'd expect the overall environment to remain competitive and the elevated incentive load to stay, the mix of product and consumers that we have coming through could potentially bring the overall number down, which is why we're guiding to the full year staying kind of within our range. You'll note that Q2 is going to be a low point for a couple of reasons.

Ryan Marshall: So while we'd expect the overall environment to remain competitive and the elevated incentive load to stay, the mix of product and consumers that we have coming through could potentially bring the overall number down, which is why we're guiding to the full year staying kind of within our range. You'll note that Q2 is going to be a low point for a couple of reasons. One of the big reasons in that is that a lot of the spec inventory that we sold in Q1 at a higher incentive load are closing. Some closed in Q1. You got a bunch more that are closing in Q2.

Ryan Marshall: One of the big reasons in that is that a lot of the spec inventory that we sold in Q1 at a higher incentive load are closing. Some closed in Q1. You got a bunch more that are closing in Q2.

Yeah, John I think I think you've got all the right pieces there. Um, we are assuming a higher incentive load, but we'd expect it, do, you know, likely come down driven by a couple of factors 1 would be, uh, more built to order and more move up and active adult business where we tend to incentivize less. Um, we've also cleared a lot of the finished spec inventory, which were carrying higher incentive loads. So, you know, while we we'd expect the overall environment to remain competitive and the O and the elevated incentive load to stay the mix of product and consumers that we have coming through will bring, you know, could potentially bring the overall number down which is why um, you know, we're guiding to the full year, staying kind of within our range. You'll note that 22 is going to be a low point for a couple of reasons. Um, 1 of the big reasons in that is that a lot of the spec inventory that we sold in q1,

1 at a higher incentive load. Our closing, some closed in q1. You got a bunch more that are closing in Q2.

John Lovallo: Okay. That's really helpful. Maybe just kind of echoing what you said, Ryan, before. It seems like the spring has actually been reasonably good considering a lot of factors in the market. Most builders have reported orders that are up year-over-year, so indicating a little bit of a better spring despite this background geopolitical headwinds. The question is, if we do in fact get some kind of resolution here to the conflict in the Middle East, do you think we could still have a really good spring selling season? On top of that, is there a chance that we could get extended a bit, maybe into June, just given shorter cycle times for many of the builders?

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, hard to know whether it gets extended or not, John. I think ultimately the consumer will have to decide that. As I tried to highlight in my prepared remarks, when rates came down to 6, maybe even a touch below 6, things were moving along really well. Despite the things that are going on globally, it's still, I think, a very good spring selling season, and we're pretty pleased with what we've delivered and how it has set us up for the full year. I can promise you that we didn't have any of the current geopolitical disruption on our bingo card as we laid out our full-year guide and set expectations for how the year would play out.

Okay. Yeah, that that's really helpful. And, you know, maybe just kind of echoing what what you said Ryan before. I mean, you know, it seems like the spring has actually been reasonably good considering a lot of factors in the market and most Builders have, um, reported orders that are up year-over-year. So you know, indicating a little bit of a better spring despite this background geopolitical headwinds. The question is, I mean, if we do in fact get some kind of resolution here to the conflict in the Middle East. I mean, do you think we could still have, you know, a really good spring selling season and and on top of that, is there a chance that we could get extended a bit? Uh, maybe into June just giving shorter cycle times for many of the builders

Yeah, hard to know, um, what—

The standard or not. John I think ultimately the consumer will have to decide that.

Ryan Marshall: I can promise you that we didn't have any of the current geopolitical disruption on our bingo card as we laid out our full-year guide and set expectations for how the year would play out. As we look at the actual numbers for Q1, we're in line with where we wanted to be, where we thought we were going to be, which is the big reason that we're reaffirming our full year. All things considered, John, I'm incredibly pleased with how we performed. I'm really pleased with how the consumer's behaving. I think, there's bias to the upside if things can get resolved, rates were to come down a little bit, I think, yeah, I think things could get even a little bit better.

Um, you know, we as I tried to highlight, in my prepared remarks, when rates came down, you know, to 6, maybe even a touch below 6. Um, things were moving along really well, um, despite the things that are going on globally, it was still a, it's still, I think a very good spring selling season. And we're pretty pleased with kind of what we've delivered and how it's set up. So how it is set us up for the full year. I can promise you that we didn't have uh any of the current geopolitical disruption on our bingo card. As we kind of laid out our full year guide and

Ryan Marshall: As we look at the actual numbers for Q1, we're in line with where we wanted to be, where we thought we were going to be, which is the big reason that we're reaffirming our full year. All things considered, John, I'm incredibly pleased with how we performed. I'm really pleased with how the consumer's behaving. I think, there's bias to the upside if things can get resolved, rates were to come down a little bit, I think, yeah, I think things could get even a little bit better.

And you know, set expectations for how the year would play out. But as we look at the actual numbers for q1, we're we're you know, we're in line with kind of where we wanted to be, where we thought we were going to be, which is, you know the big reason that we're reaffirming kind of our full year. So all things considered John. Um I'm incredibly pleased with how we performed. I'm really pleased with how the consumer's behaving and I think, you know, there's bias to the upside. If things can get resolved rates were to come down a little bit, I think. Yeah, I think things could get even a little bit better.

Operator: That's encouraging. Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Alan Ratner of Zelman. Please go ahead.

John Lovallo: That's encouraging. Thank you.

That's encouraging. Thank you.

Operator: The next question comes from the line of Alan Ratner of Zelman. Please go ahead.

Your next question comes from the line of Alan. Ratner zelman please. Go ahead.

Alan Ratner: Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for all the details.

Ryan Marshall: Morning, Alan

Alan Ratner: Nice job in a tough market. Good morning.

Ryan Marshall: Thank you.

Alan Ratner: Ryan, you alluded to this several times, but I was hoping to dig in a little bit deeper on the incentive trends. Specifically what I'm curious about is, do you have data, or can you kind of talk through the difference in incentives you offer both across price points as well as BTO versus spec? I see, obviously, they were up sequentially and year over year, across the averages. I'm curious if there's any notable differences across those price points or BTO versus spec.

Hey guys. Good morning, uh, thanks for all the detail and nice, nice job and a tough Market. Good morning, thank you. Um, you know, Ryan you alluded to this several times, but I was hoping to dig in a little bit deeper on the incentive Trends and and specifically what I'm curious about is, do you have data or can you kind of talk through the difference in incentives? You offer on both across price points as well as BTO versus spec. I mean I see obviously they were up sequentially and year-over-year uh across, you know, the averages, but I'm curious if there's any notable differences across those price points or or BTO versus suspect

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, Alan, there's definitely more incentive on spec broadly. There's more incentive as a percentage on first-time spec. I tried to provide some nuance around that in my comments around the K-economy. That first-time entry-level buyer, they're the most challenged by affordability, and that's where we've tried to lean in more in order to solve the affordability equation. I think we've done it pretty effectively. When you move into the move-up, and the active adult buyers, we're incenting there as well. The types of incentives vary. There's still a fair number of incentives that are going into a forward commitment program that's specifically targeted to dirt sales. It's not as low as a 30-year fixed rate mortgage that we'd offer on a spec that's complete, but still in the low to mid 5% range and materially below the current market.

Yeah, Allan. There's there's definitely um there's definitely more incentive on spec broadly.

Ryan Marshall: When you move into the move-up, and the active adult buyers, we're incenting there as well. The types of incentives vary. There's still a fair number of incentives that are going into a forward commitment program that's specifically targeted to dirt sales. It's not as low as a 30-year fixed rate mortgage that we'd offer on a spec that's complete, but still in the low to mid 5% range and materially below the current market.

Ryan Marshall: It's locked in for the entire duration of the build cycle. There's a lot of value that we think is being offered there, and there's a cost to that, but that's factored in the incentive load. All things considered, Alan, as I said, we'd still expect incentives to remain higher. Given the mix shift in buyers as well as spec to build to order, we think the overall incentive load for us as a company will come down.

Then when you move into the move up in the active adult buyers, um you know we're incenting there as well, that the types of incentives vary there's you know still a fair number of incentives that are going into a forward commitment program, that's specifically targeted to dirt sales. So it's not as low as a 30-year fixed rate mortgage that we'd offer on a spec that's complete, but, you know, still in the kind of low to mid 5% range and materially below the current market, and it's locked in for the entire duration of the build cycle. So there's a lot of of value that we think is being offered there and there's a cost to that, um, but that's factored in the incentive load. So you know all things considered Alan, um, you know, as I said we we still expect incentives to remain higher, um, but you know, given the mix

Shift in buyers as well as respect to build to order. We think the overall incentive load for us as a company will come down.

Alan Ratner: Great. I appreciate the detail there. Second, was hoping to ask about your land book. I think land banking has become a bit of a hot button topic in the investment community over the last couple of months. You've seen a nice uptick in your share of lots held off balance sheet, but I know that includes a lot of different things, traditional land options, land banking. So can you quantify for us your exposure to land banking, and I guess just talk more broadly about how your land banking deals are generally structured. Are you making periodic interest payments? Are they more kind of on the back end in like a pick fashion? Any color you can give would be great. Thank you.

Great. I appreciate the the detail there. Um, second was hoping to ask about your land book. Um you know I think land banking has become a bit of a hot button Topic in the uh, the investment community over the last couple of months. And, you know, you've seen a, a nice uptick in your share of lots held off balance sheet, but I know that includes a lot of different things traditional and options, uh, land banking. So can you quantify for us your exposure to land banking? And I guess just talk more broadly about how you're

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, sure, Alan. Happy to go into it. I'm going to ask Jim to give you some of the specific details, but before he does, philosophically, the way we've structured our land book for the better part of six or seven years, we want as many lots as we can possibly control with underlying land sellers. Today, that represents well over 50% of our controlled land, is controlled with options with underlying land sellers. In our move to go from 50% controlled option to 70%, we knew we were going to need to incorporate some element of land banking, and we've done that. We've maintained a diversified book of land banking partners, which I'm very pleased with the number of partners and the alignment that we have with those partners. Then our overriding focus has been we want risk transfer.

Land banking deals are generally. Structured, are you making periodic interest payments? Are they more kind of on the back end and like a pick fashion any color, you can give would be great. Thank you.

Yeah, sure Alan. Uh, happy to go into it and I'm going to ask Jim to give you some of the specific details but before he does,

Philosophically, the way we've structured our land book for the better part of six or seven years.

Ryan Marshall: In our move to go from 50% controlled option to 70%, we knew we were going to need to incorporate some element of land banking, and we've done that. We've maintained a diversified book of land banking partners, which I'm very pleased with the number of partners and the alignment that we have with those partners. Then our overriding focus has been we want risk transfer. We're looking for the ability to walk away in the event that things go sideways on a single individual transaction. This overarching belief or idea of risk transfer, risk mitigation is the entire foundation of our land banking portfolio. With that, I'll have Jim share a few more details with you.

Ryan Marshall: We're looking for the ability to walk away in the event that things go sideways on a single individual transaction. This overarching belief or idea of risk transfer, risk mitigation is the entire foundation of our land banking portfolio. With that, I'll have Jim share a few more details with you.

We want as many Lots as we can possibly control with underlying land Sellers and today, that represents well over 50% of our control land is controlled with options with underlying land sellers. Um in our move to go from 50%, controlled option to 70. We knew we were going to need to incorporate some element of land banking and we've done that, um, we've maintained a diversified book of land banking Partners. Um, which I'm I'm very pleased with the the number of Partners and the alignment that we have with those partners and then our overriding Focus has been, we want risk transfer. So, um, we're looking for the ability to walk away in the event that things go sideways on a single on a single individual transaction. Um, so this, this overarching belief or idea of risk, transfer risk, mitigation

Jim Ossowski: Sure. Thanks, Ryan. Alan, I'll fill you in a couple of things. As it relates to land banking, of the 229,000 lots that we control, we have about 18,000 with land bankers, so it's about 8% of the book of business. To Ryan's point, what we really want to do is we would love to get underlying optionality with land sellers directly, and what I'd tell you, of the 127,000 lots that we have under option, over 85% are those with underlying land sellers. Again, it's the vast majority. That's what we task our teams to do. Let's go for that first and foremost. If we can supplement it with banking, we will, but we'd love to get a deal with people on the ground first.

Is the entire Foundation of our land banking uh, portfolio with that. Uh, I'll have Jim share a few more details with you. Sure, thanks. Ryan Ellen. I'll fill you in a couple of things. So as it relates to land banking uh of the 229 9,000, lots that we control, we have about 18,000 with land Banker, so it's about 8% of the book of business. Um, to Ryan's Point what we really want to do is we would love to get underlying optionality with land sellers directly and what I tell you, the 127,000 lots that we have under option over 85% of those with underlying land sellers. So again, it's the vast majority, um, that's what we task our teams do. Let's go for that first and foremost, we can supplement it with banking, we will, but we'd love to get a deal with people on the ground first.

Alan Ratner: Great. That's really helpful. Jim, if you have it, of those 18,000 lots with land bankers, can you give a little bit of detail on how those are structured, either in terms of average deposit, what the kind of carry is, et cetera?

Jim Ossowski: Yeah. I'd tell you that most bankers that are out there today, it's usually about a 15% deposit that they request on those. Then, rates will be in the low double-digit range typically for those. To give you context, our deposits as a percentage of future purchases is only about $7,000 per unit for the whole company. Or I'm sorry, 7.5% for the whole company. The vast majority are at very low deposits with underlying land sellers, but the bankers carry a little bit richer mix.

Great that that's really helpful and to, if you have it, um, of those 18,000 Lots with land Bankers, can you give a little bit of detail on how those are structured either in terms of average deposit? What the kind of carriers Etc?

Yeah, I I tell you that, you know, most, uh, Bankers that are out there today. It's usually about a 15% deposit that they request on those. And then, you know, rates will be in the, you know, the low double digit range. Typically for those to give you context our deposits as a percentage of future purchases is only 7 and 7 Up 7,000 dollars per unit for the whole company. So or I'm sorry, 7.5%

For the whole company. So the vast majority are at very low deposits and underlying land sellers, but the bankers carry a little bit richer mix.

Alan Ratner: Great. Really appreciate the detail, guys. Thanks a lot.

Jim Ossowski: Thanks, Alan.

Great, really. Appreciate the detail, guys. Thanks a lot.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Kim of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Stephen Kim: Yeah. Thanks very much, guys. Appreciate all that color, particularly on the land side, so that's great to hear. I wanted to talk a little bit about your free cash flow guide. I believe you said about $1 billion. Now, the way I'm modeling things, it seems like your net earnings are going to be much higher than that. I was wondering if you could talk about that free cash flow conversion, and what you see as being offsets to the net income this year. Is it that you anticipate to end with a meaningfully higher owned land supply than you currently have, or is there something else going on? Just some color there would be helpful.

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen team of every core isi. Please go ahead.

Jim Ossowski: Yeah, great question, Stephen. There isn't an assumption that we have any significant increase in our own land supply. We've certainly been working down our house inventory in recent quarters, as we talked about as we moved our spec down. There's an anticipation there'll be a little bit more build to order that's going to come in H2 as we set ourselves up for 2027. It's really on the house side where we'll see a little bit of an incremental increase.

Guide, um, I believe you said about a billion now, the way I'm modeling things, it seems like your net earnings are going to be much higher than that. And so, I was wondering if you could talk about that free cash flow conversion. Um, and uh, what you see as being offsets, uh, to the, you know, the net income, uh, this year, is it that you anticipate to end with a uh, meaningfully higher, uh, owned land, uh, Supply than you currently have. Or is there something else going on? Just some color, there would be helpful.

Stephen Kim: I'll take that as a real positive, obviously, because it suggests that this is just kind of a temporary thing and that free cash flow conversion should improve once you get over this build of BTO. First, I guess I would just ask, is that in fact the way you see things, and where do you see the BTO mix of, let's say, orders or maybe closings, finally reaching your 60% level? Is that something that would, you think, could be reached by the end of this year, or is this something that is going to take well into next year, you think, to accomplish?

Yeah, great question, Stephen. So, um, there is an assumption that we have any significant increase in our own land supply. We've certainly been working down our house inventory in recent quarters, as we talked about, as we moved our spec down. But there's an anticipation there will be a little bit more built-to-order that's going to come in the back half of the year. So we've set ourselves up for, um, 2027. So it's really on the house side that we'll see a little bit of an incremental increase.

You know, I'll take that as a real positive obviously because it suggests that, uh, this is just, uh, kind of a temporary thing in the free cash. Flow conversion should improve, uh, once you get over this, uh, build of of BTO. So first, I guess I would just ask is that in fact the way you see things uh and where do you see the BTO mix of? Uh let's say orders or maybe closing. Uh finally reaching your 60% level is that something that would

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, Stephen. Maybe starting with the cash flow. The conversion of net income into cash flow is a big focus for us. We believe it's a very meaningful and powerful driver of value for shareholders. I think Jim provided some nice breadcrumbs in terms of where we're going and why it's at $1 billion. Hopefully there's a slight bias to the upside this year, but it is as we rebuild that home inventory on build to order. I agree with you, that's a good thing. It means we're selling homes, and we're selling homes that are dirt. I do think it is a kind of temporary situation, that as we move into next year, you'd see better, more normal conversion rates from us. As it relates to build to order, target mix is 60/40. We made great progress in Q1.

You think could be reached by the end of this year, or is this something that is going to take? You know, well into next year you think to accomplish

Yeah, Stephen. So, um, maybe starting with the cash flow cash flow. You know, the conversion of net income into cash flow is a big Focus for us. We believe it's a very meaningful and Powerful driver of of value for shareholders. So, um, you know, I think Jim provided, you know, some nice, uh, uh, breadcrumbs in terms of kind of where we're going and why it's at a billion. Hopefully, there's, you know, a slight bias to the upside this year, but it is as we rebuild that that home Inventory on Bill to order. I agree with you. That's a good thing. It means we're selling homes and we're selling homes that are dirt.

Ryan Marshall: As it relates to build to order, target mix is 60/40. We made great progress in Q1. I'd expect that to continue as we move through the year. The fact that we were able to reduce so much spec inventory in Q1 is also a powerful driver in that journey. I think it might take a tad longer than the end of this year, but not much beyond Q1 of next year. We'll keep you updated as we move. We're going to do this in a measured, balanced way, but we're also not going to drag it out forever.

Ryan Marshall: I'd expect that to continue as we move through the year. The fact that we were able to reduce so much spec inventory in Q1 is also a powerful driver in that journey. I think it might take a tad longer than the end of this year, but not much beyond Q1 of next year. We'll keep you updated as we move. We're going to do this in a measured, balanced way, but we're also not going to drag it out forever.

Um, in terms of, um, and and I I do think it is a, a kind of temporary situation that as we move into next year, uh, you'd see kind of better more normal conversion, rates from us. Um, and then, as it relates to, uh, built to order Target, mix is 6040. We make great progress in q1. Um, I'd expect that to continue as we we move through the year, uh, the fact that we were able to reduce so much spec inventory. In q1 is also a powerful driver in that Journey. Um, I, you know, I think it might take a tad longer than the end of this year, but not not much Beyond q1 of next year.

Stephen Kim: Great. Appreciate that.

Year so um, you know, we'll keep you updated as we move. But, you know, we're we're going to do this in a measured balanced way, but we're also not going to drag it out forever.

Great. Appreciate that.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Pettinari of Citi. Please go ahead.

Your next question comes from the line of Anthony pettinger with City. Please go ahead.

Anthony Pettinari: Good morning. You talked about stick and brick costs, I think down 5%, and it sounds like lumber was a good guy there. I guess lumber's been coming up for the last, I guess, month and a half. Can you just remind us the lag in which you'd see that? Then maybe related question, with the conflict in the Middle East, it seems like we're seeing metal prices, petchem-based building material price hikes out in the market. What would be the lag that you would maybe see some of that in your stick and brick costs?

Uh, good morning.

Um, you talked about sticking brick costs. I I think that on 5% and it sounds like Lumber was a good guy there. Um, I guess those Lumber's been coming up for the last, I guess, month and a half. Um, can you just remind us the lag in which you'd see that and then maybe related question, you know, with the conflict in the Middle East. It seems like we're seeing, you know, metal prices. Pet Kemp based, uh, building, uh material, you know, price hikes out in the market. What would be the lag? Uh, you know, that you would maybe see some of that, um, in your stick and brick costs.

Jim Ossowski: Sure. Great question. I guess first what I'd tell you is, you hit on it, we had a really good Q1. Our procurement teams have done a great job. They were down 5% year over year. As we look out over the balance of the year, we said that our house costs would be flat to slightly down. We still believe that, and that's baked into our guide. On your question on lumber, when will we see that? It's usually two quarters out, because the way that we buy the lumber today, those are going to turn into closings two quarters out from now. It has inflected higher in recent weeks. The other thing that we're keeping an eye on are fuel costs. We're monitoring that. At this point in time, we've done a good job. You'll hear of things like fuel surcharges. We've combated those so far.

Sure. Uh, great question. Um, you know, I guess first, what I tell you is, you know, as we as we did you you hit on it. We had a really good first quarter. Our procurement teams have done a great job, they were down 5% year-over-year. Um, you know, as we look out over the balance the year, we want to reaffirm our, you know, we said that our house costs would be flat to slightly down. We still believe that and that's baked into our guide on your question, on Lumber. When will we see that? It's usually,

Jim Ossowski: The other thing that we're keeping an eye on are fuel costs. We're monitoring that. At this point in time, we've done a good job. You'll hear of things like fuel surcharges. We've combated those so far. In recent weeks, as the cost of fuel has started to come down a bit from the highs, we're keeping an eye on it. Again, I'll go back to what I said, Q1 was a really great one, and even with some of those headwinds for lumber, we still believe we can be flat to slightly down for the remaining quarters.

Jim Ossowski: In recent weeks, as the cost of fuel has started to come down a bit from the highs, we're keeping an eye on it. Again, I'll go back to what I said, Q1 was a really great one, and even with some of those headwinds for lumber, we still believe we can be flat to slightly down for the remaining quarters.

Ryan Marshall: Yeah. Anthony, in terms of the metal and some of the other related costs, we'd see that being later in the year, before we would see an impact. One of the things that our procurement teams have worked with our suppliers and trade partners on is let's just take a modicum of patience here. We are in a conflict. If it continues, there will be real cost increases, but we're not going to overreact to kind of the whipsaw of market's up, market's down based on what's happening on a day-to-day basis from the conflict.

The cost of fuel started to come down a bit from the highs. We're keeping an eye on it. But you know, again, I'll go back to what I said. Q1 was a really great 1 and even with some of those headwinds for lumber, we still believe we can be flat to slightly down uh, for the remaining quarters of the year. Yeah. And Anthony, you know, in terms of kind of the metal and some of the other uh, related costs. We'd see that being

Later in the year, uh, before we would, uh, see an impact. Um, one of the things that our procurement teams have worked with our suppliers and trade partners on is, let's just take a, a, a moment of, of patience here. Um, you know, we, we are in a conflict, if it continues, there will be real cost increases but we're not going to overreact to the kind of the whipsaw of markets up, markets down, based on, kind of what is happening on a day-to-day basis, uh, uh, from the conflict.

Anthony Pettinari: Okay. That's very helpful. Just one quick one on incentives. Without cutting it too finely, were incentive levels fairly steady for the three months of the quarter and maybe the exit rate into April, or was there any kind of increase or decrease that you'd call out there?

Okay, that that's very helpful. Um, just 1, quick 1 on incentives, without cutting it too. Finely, we're incentive levels. Uh, you know, fairly steady for the 3 months of the quarter and, and maybe the exit rate into April or was there any, um, uh, kind of, uh, increase or decrease that you call out there?

Jim Ossowski: They were fairly steady across the quarter. It really got down to a community by community basis of what we had to offer to move specs, but again, pretty consistent through the quarter.

They were fairly steady across the quarter. It really got down to a community-by-community basis of what we had to offer to move specs. But, um, again, pretty consistent through the quarter.

Anthony Pettinari: Okay. That's very helpful. I'll turn it over.

Okay, that that's very helpful. I'll turn it over.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rehaut of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Your next question comes from the line of Michael rehaut of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Michael Rehaut: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a clarification, actually, on the incentive question. Jim, when you said kind of stable throughout the quarter, was that on closings or orders? When we think about a slight dip down in Q2 gross margins, I believe you were saying that's those from the fuller impact of the reduction of spec maybe that was transacted 3, 4, 5 months ago. Just trying to get a sense of how incentives are still impacting Q2 gross margins from prior conditions and if the comments you just made were more on current market conditions on orders.

Thanks uh good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Um just uh clarification actually on the incentive question. Uh Jim when you said kind of stable throughout the quarter was that on closings or orders and when we think about

You know, a, a slight dip down in. 2q, Gross. Margins, I, I believe you're saying. That's that was kind of from

The fuller impact of the reduction of spec, maybe that was transacted.

You know, 3 4 5 months ago. So just trying to get a sense of

Ryan Marshall: Yeah. Mike, no offense, but I think you made things up there. I think what we talked about is in Q1, there were spec sales. What I said is there were spec sales in Q1 that had elevated incentives. Some of those closed in Q1. Some of those are going to close in Q2, which is impacting the guide that we're providing for Q2. It's part of the reason that we're saying that's the low point, and we'd expect it to go back into the range that we've guided to for the full year. In terms of whether it was closings or sign-ups, it's probably slicing it a little too thinly, Mike. We report the incentives on closings. I think that's the approach that we've been taking. We're going to stay consistent with that.

Um how incentives are still impacting 2 Q gross margins from prior conditions and if the comments you just made were more on current market conditions on orders.

Ryan Marshall: We report the incentives on closings. I think that's the approach that we've been taking. We're going to stay consistent with that. The incentive load on future backlog, future closings, all that is embedded into our guide. As I've said a couple of times, we're actually optimistic that while the overall incentive environment will stay elevated, we can see incentives come down because of buyer mix and brand mix.

Ryan Marshall: The incentive load on future backlog, future closings, all that is embedded into our guide. As I've said a couple of times, we're actually optimistic that while the overall incentive environment will stay elevated, we can see incentives come down because of buyer mix and brand mix.

Yeah. Mike, I no offense but I think you made things up there. Um, I think what we talked about is in q1, there were spec sales. What I said is there were spec sales in q1 that had elevated incentives. Those, some of those closing q1. Some of those are going to close in Q2 which is impacting the guide that we're providing for Q2. It's part of the reason that we're saying, that's the low point and we'd expect it to go back into the range that we've guided to for the full year. Um, in terms of of kind of how whether it was closing or signups, it's probably slicing it a little too thinly. Mike. Um, you know, we report this the the the incentives on closings. Um you know that's I I think the the that's the approach that we've we've we've been uh taking we're going to stay consistent with that and then the incentive load on, you know future, backlog future closings. All that is embedded into our

Our guide, but you know, as I've said a couple of times, we're actually optimistic that while the overall incentive environment will stay elevated, we, we can see incentives come down because of buyer mix and, um, uh, brand mix.

Michael Rehaut: Okay. No, that's great, Ryan. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I thought I implied the same thing, that the bigger impact of the sale of specs would be more felt in Q2 or that that's really what's flowing through. I think we're on the same page there. Shifting to the strength that you saw in Florida, I'd really love to dive into that a little bit. Obviously, it was a bright spot for you this quarter. Really get to understand across your major markets, obviously, you benefit from a good amount of diversification, and your consolidated numbers had the relative strength and move up in active adults from the order sign-up side.

Okay, no, that that's great. Ryan, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I thought I implied. The same thing that you know the the bigger impacts of the sale of specs would be more felt in the second quarter or you know that that's really what's flowing through. So I think we're on the same page there.

Michael Rehaut: Really get to understand across your major markets, obviously, you benefit from a good amount of diversification, and your consolidated numbers had the relative strength and move up in active adults from the order sign-up side. I'd love to understand what's going on in Florida from a broader market perspective in terms of inventory, both on new and existing homes, and how much you think that contributed to the stronger results that you saw this quarter?

Michael Rehaut: I'd love to understand what's going on in Florida from a broader market perspective in terms of inventory, both on new and existing homes, and how much you think that contributed to the stronger results that you saw this quarter?

Um, you know, shifting to the the strength that you saw in Florida. I really love to dive into that a little bit. Obviously, it was a bright spot for you this quarter. Um, and really get to understand, you know, cross your major markets, obviously, you benefit from a good amount of diversification and um, in your Consolidated, numbers had the relative strength and move up and active adults from the order, sign up side. Uh, but I'd love to understand what's going on in Florida from a broader Market perspective in terms of inventory, uh, both on new and existing homes. And how much you think that contributed to the the stronger results that you saw this quarter?

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, Mike, we're very happy with what we're seeing out of Florida, and this has been the Q3 or Q4 in a row where we've highlighted the strength of the Florida market. If you went back a year ago, I think we were an outlier, outperforming the market, that was arguably a little tougher. Florida has continued to get better over the last 12 months, and it's at the best point that we've seen it in a while. In addition to that, the strength of our communities, the positioning of our communities, the expertise of our teams there has allowed us to outperform what is a pretty healthy market there right now. We're happy about Florida. It's not without its challenges.

We're very happy with what we most, what we're seeing out of Florida and and this has been the third or fourth quarter in a row where we've highlighted the strength of the Florida Market. Um, if you went back a year ago, I think we were an outlier, uh, outperforming the market.

Uh, that was arguably a little tougher and Florida has continued to get better over the last, uh, 12 months. And it's at the best point that we've seen it in a while.

Ryan Marshall: Insurance costs are high, affordability is stretched there, just like it is in a lot of other places. There's been some recent headlines about affordability in Florida, and I think that's because Florida historically was very affordable. There are some attributes of Florida that aren't changing. It's a pro-growth, pro-business kind of state that's got a lot of great jobs, a more diversified economy than it's ever had, low taxes, no taxes, no income tax anyway, no state income tax. I think there's a lot of reasons why people still want to go to Florida. I can also understand and appreciate why it's maybe not the best fit for others. Maybe just to sum it all up, Mike, we love our Florida business. I think this quarter's results are a good demonstration of that.

In addition to that the strength of our communities, the positioning of our communities, the expertise of our teams. There has allowed us to outperform. What is a a pretty strong healthy. A pretty healthy Market there right now, so, we're happy about Florida. Um, you know, it's not without its challenges

Insurance costs are high, affordability is stretched there. Um, just like it is in a lot of other places. Um, you know, there's been some recent headlines about affordability in Florida and I think that's because Florida historically was very affordable. Um, there are some, you know, some attributes of Florida that aren't changing it's a program growth Pro business. Um kind of uh uh State. That's got a lot of great jobs and more Diversified economy that it's ever had low taxes. No taxes, and no income tax anyway, no state income tax. So I think there's there's there's a lot of reasons why people still want to go to Florida. Um but

But I can also understand and appreciate while why it's maybe not the best fit for others. Um but you know, maybe just to sum it all up. Mike, we love our Florida business, um, and I think this quarter's results are are uh, you know, good demonstration of that.

Michael Rehaut: Any comments on the inventory trends across the major markets, that would be very helpful?

And any comments on the inventory, Trends across the major markets. That would be very helpful.

Jim Ossowski: Sure. We have seen inventory come down in certain locations. Some of the more affordable parts of the state, North Port, Lakeland, they're still a little bit elevated, but we've been really pleased with both new and existing has come down, in the places where we do business.

Sure. Um, we have seen inventory come down in in certain locations. You know, some of the more affordable parts of the of the state Northport Lakeland they're still a little bit elevated but we've been really pleased with you know, both new and existing has come down uh in the places where we do business.

Michael Rehaut: Great. Thank you.

Ryan Marshall: Bye.

Great. Thank you.

Bye.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Dahl, RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

You next question from the line of myself, RBC Capital markets. Please go ahead.

Mike Dahl [Managing Director, Equity Research: Morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Mike Dahl: Morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Ryan Marshall: Thanks.

Morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Mike Dahl [Managing Director, Equity Research: I just wanted to first ask about just the mix dynamics in H2. Obviously, from an order standpoint, we can kind of see that mix evolving in terms of the move-up and active adult outperforming first-time. In terms of what you're projecting on the margin in H2, how much of that do you already have visibility on based on what you've sold over the past handful of months versus kind of an assumption of what's left to sell in the next several months and what that mix is going to look like?

Mike Dahl: I just wanted to first ask about just the mix dynamics in H2. Obviously, from an order standpoint, we can kind of see that mix evolving in terms of the move-up and active adult outperforming first-time. In terms of what you're projecting on the margin in H2, how much of that do you already have visibility on based on what you've sold over the past handful of months versus kind of an assumption of what's left to sell in the next several months and what that mix is going to look like?

Um, I just wanted to, uh, first. I wanted to first ask about the um,

Just the mixed dynamics in the back half of the year. Obviously, from an order standpoint, we could kind of see that mix evolving in terms of the move-up and after the build outperforming first-time. So, you know, in terms of what you're projecting on the margin in the back half, how much of that do you already have visibility on based on what you've sold over the past 10 to 12 months versus kind of an assumption of what's left to sell?

in, in the next several months and what that mix is going to look like,

Jim Ossowski: Yeah, I mean, I would tell you it's what we're seeing on the sales floor today, what we have out there. Ryan highlighted our Florida business has done really well. Our Northeast, our Southeast business, which carry a higher margin profile as well. We're looking at what we sold in Q1 and kind of making predictions about what goes out over the balance of the year. Again, there's a lot of parts and pieces that go into it. The build-to-order mix, and the active adult are the two biggest components that will drive the increase.

Yeah, I mean, I could tell you, it's, you know what, we're seeing on the sales floor today. What we have out there, you know, Ryan, highlighted our Florida business, uh, has done really well our Northeast, our Southeast Business, which carry a higher margin profile as well. So, you know, we're, we're looking at what we sold in q1 and kind of making predictions about what goes out, over the balance of the year, but, um, again, um, there's a lot of parts and pieces that go into it but the Build To Order Mix and the active adult are the 2, biggest components that that will, uh, Drive the increase.

Mike Dahl [Managing Director, Equity Research: Okay. Relatedly, I guess when you look at starts versus sales and your comments about you did a pretty good job taking down finished spec in the quarter, it sounds like there's a little left to go. In the current environment, like if you're within that 1 to 1.5 per community band on finished spec, are you trying to get down to that lower end right now given what you're seeing in the market and how you think about optimizing profitability? How does that kind of tie into how we should think about your prospective starts versus order pace?

Mike Dahl: Okay. Relatedly, I guess when you look at starts versus sales and your comments about you did a pretty good job taking down finished spec in the quarter, it sounds like there's a little left to go. In the current environment, like if you're within that 1 to 1.5 per community band on finished spec, are you trying to get down to that lower end right now given what you're seeing in the market and how you think about optimizing profitability? How does that kind of tie into how we should think about your prospective starts versus order pace?

Okay. And then relatively, I guess when we look at, you know, it starts versus sales and your comments about, you know, you you did a pretty good job taking down finished spec. Um, in in the quarter, it sounds like there's a little left to go in the current environment. Like, if you're within that 1 to 1 and a half, uh, per community band on finished spec, are you trying to get down to that lower end right now? Given what you're seeing in the market and how you think about optimizing profitability? And, and how does that kind of tie into how how we should think about you? Your prospective starts versus, uh, order pace.

Ryan Marshall: Yeah. The way I would probably guide you on that is that we're inside the target range that we want for specs, and we're very comfortable operating at the lower end. We're very comfortable operating at the higher end of that range. We want to be inside that range. Beyond that, where we're at in the range will really be driven by specific community-level decisions, the type of buyer we're going after, and whether it's a true entry-level or more of a move-up type community. That's the reason I think we give a range on that. We've said we're not going to chase the volume. We're going to get our company back to a build-to-order model, which we're doing. We made excellent progress. We've reaffirmed kind of the full-year number, and that we were going to be matching starts to sales cadence.

Ryan Marshall: We've said we're not going to chase the volume. We're going to get our company back to a build-to-order model, which we're doing. We made excellent progress. We've reaffirmed kind of the full-year number, and that we were going to be matching starts to sales cadence. The starts that you saw in Q1 were really reflective of the sales that we had in Q4. You'll see our starts in Q2 more closely match the sales that we just had in Q1. That's the kind of build that you want to see from us.

Case the volume.

Um, we're we're going to get our company back to a bill, to order model, which we're doing.

Ryan Marshall: The starts that you saw in Q1 were really reflective of the sales that we had in Q4. You'll see our starts in Q2 more closely match the sales that we just had in Q1. That's the kind of build that you want to see from us. We're very comfortable with where we're at on the overall number of homes we have in production, how many we started in Q1, what we'll start in Q2, and kind of how that sets us up for the full year. I will note, a big reason why we've been able to do it this way this year is because we've gotten build times, cycle times back down to pre-COVID cycle times of less than 100 days. There's a lot of things that are working exactly the way that we've designed our operating model to work.

Ryan Marshall: We're very comfortable with where we're at on the overall number of homes we have in production, how many we started in Q1, what we'll start in Q2, and kind of how that sets us up for the full year. I will note, a big reason why we've been able to do it this way this year is because we've gotten build times, cycle times back down to pre-COVID cycle times of less than 100 days. There's a lot of things that are working exactly the way that we've designed our operating model to work.

Um, we made excellent progress. We've reaffirmed kind of the full year number um and that we were going to be matching starts to sales, Cadence. So the starts that you saw in q1 were really reflective of the sales that we had. In Q4 you'll see our starts in Q2 more closely matched, the sales that we just had in q1. So that's the kind of bill that you ought to see from us. Um, and you know, we're very comfortable with where we're at. On the overall number of homes that we have in production. How many we started in q1? What will start in Q2 and kind of how that sets us up for the full full year. I, I will note, you know, a big reason why we've been able to do it this way. This year is because we've gotten build times cycle times back down to preco cycle times of less than 100 days. So, um, you know, there's, there's a lot of things that are working exactly the way that we've designed our operating model to work.

Mike Dahl [Managing Director, Equity Research: That helps. Makes sense. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks, Jim.

Mike Dahl: That helps. Makes sense. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks, Jim.

That helps us make sense. Thanks Brian. Thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sam Reid of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Your next question comes from the line of Sam Reed of Wells Fargo please go ahead.

Sam Reid: Thanks, everyone. I wanted to drill down a little bit more on ASP. I believe in the prepared remarks, it sounds like ASP was down mid-single digits across all buyer cohorts, which would include move-up and active adult. It also sounds like based on your answer earlier in the Q&A, that you might have stepped up some forward rate commitments to those move-up and active adult buyers. I just wanted to, though, understand, are you also making any surgical price cuts in move-up and active adult as well that we should be mindful of?

Uh, thanks everyone. Wanted to drill down a little bit more on ASP. Um, I believe in the prepared remarks, it sounds like ASP was down mid single digits across all buyer cohorts, which would include move up, an active adult. And it did also sounds like based on your answer earlier in the Q&A that you might have stepped up some forward rate commitments to those move up in active, adult buyers. I just wanted to know understand. Are you also making any surgical price, Cuts in move up and active adults as well, that we should be mindful of

Ryan Marshall: Yeah. Sam, we look at pricing all the time and make sure that we're competitively priced. Discounts, I think are an important thing psychologically for buyers today. We try to have the right relationship between headline price and what incentives are. They're tethered together. There are some communities where we have taken price cuts, and Jim highlighted in some of his remarks, that's been a big driver in the communities where we've had to take impairments, it's typically been the price cuts. Fortunately, it's just two communities, and it was a fairly small number. Hopefully that's a bit indicative that we've made very few kind of top-line major price reductions.

Yeah, you you know, Sam, we we we look at pricing all the time and make sure that we're competitively priced. Um, you know, discounts I think are an important thing psychologically for buyers today. So we try to have the right relationship between headline price and what incentives are, um, you know, they're tethered together. Um, but there are some communities where we have taken price cuts and Jim highlighted in some of his remarks. That's been a big driver in the communities where we've had to take impairments. It's typically been the price Cuts. Fortunately, it's just 2 communities and it was a fairly small number. So, you know, hopefully that's a bit indicative that we've made, uh, you know, very few kind of Topline major price, uh, reductions

Sam Reid: That's helpful. Maybe switching gears to the financial services line item. I noticed financial services pre-tax was lower, and I believe one of the reasons you called out were lower gains on mortgage sales. Just maybe curious the moving pieces behind that lower gain, and curious if it's also a function of perhaps a step-up in adjustable rate activity. Just wondering if that could be one of the drivers of the financial services pre-tax change year-over-year.

That's helpful, and maybe switching gears to the Financial Services line item. I noticed Financial Services pre-tax was lower, and I believe one of the reasons you called out were lower gains on mortgage sales. So just maybe curious about the moving pieces behind that lower gain, and curious if it's also a function of perhaps a step up in adjustable rate activity. So just wondering if that could be one of the drivers of the Financial Services pre-tax.

Jim Ossowski: Sure, Sam. Great question. Let me start first off, Sam. We're very pleased with the operating performance of our financial services organization. They do a great job supporting our home building operations and supporting our customers. On the question on ARMs were 9% of all closings in Q1 versus 7% for all of last year. A little bit higher, but nothing meaningful. When you look year-over-year, a couple things I'll point out, and some of this is just timing, and we'll expect improvement over the balance of the year. Home building volumes were down. We noted lower net gains on the sale of mortgages as rates kind of ticked up on us. We had lower value ascribed. That's timing that we do our rate locks.

Change year-over-year.

Jim Ossowski: When you look year-over-year, a couple things I'll point out, and some of this is just timing, and we'll expect improvement over the balance of the year. Home building volumes were down. We noted lower net gains on the sale of mortgages as rates kind of ticked up on us. We had lower value ascribed. That's timing that we do our rate locks. As well, we had slightly higher expenses as we've invested in people and technology for the year. Again, I think they performed very well in Q1. I'd argue it's a little bit of timing, and we'll continue to see improvement in that over the balance of the year.

Jim Ossowski: As well, we had slightly higher expenses as we've invested in people and technology for the year. Again, I think they performed very well in Q1. I'd argue it's a little bit of timing, and we'll continue to see improvement in that over the balance of the year.

We're very pleased with the operating performance of uh our financial services organization. Uh they do a great job sporting our home building operations and supporting our customers. On the question on arms arms were 9%, uh, of all closings in the first quarter versus 7% for all of last year. So a little bit higher, but but nothing meaningful. You know, when you look year-over-year a couple things I'll point out, um, and some of this is just timing and we'll expect improvement over the balance in the year. But you know Home Building volumes were down. Um, we noted lower lower net gains on a sale of of mortgages is, is rates kind of ticked up on us. We had lower value ascribed. That's the time that we do our rate locks and then as well we had slightly higher expenses as you know, we've invested in people and technology for the year. So again, I think they performed very well in the first quarter and you know, I'd argue it's a little

A little bit of timing and, you know, we'll continue to see Improvement in that over the balance of the year.

Sam Reid: All helpful context. Thanks so much.

All helpful context. Thanks so much.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Bouley of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Julie Barkley. Please go ahead.

Matthew Bouley: Morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe just to pull on the thread of the build-to-order mix. I think you said, from an order perspective, it was maybe 3% higher in Q1 relative to last year. My question's on sort of the gross margin. I think you're implying in H2 maybe the gross margin's up 75 basis points, give or take, relative to H1. I think the build-to-order closings mix would need to be fairly meaningfully higher, if that's kind of the main driver. I guess, what exactly is the expected build-to-order closings mix in H2? And is there anything else that kind of supports that level of sequential margin improvement? Thank you.

You know, need to be fairly meaningfully higher, uh, if if it's if that's kind of the main driver. So I guess, what is what exactly is the expected Bill to order, closings? Mix and and the second half or and is there anything else that kind of supports that level of sequential margin Improvement? Thank you.

Jim Ossowski: Well, you'll have both the richer mix of build-to-order, but then as well as Ryan highlighted, and I said in my prepared comments, as we've gotten more of that finished spec inventory off the books, that will be less influential as you get out to Q3 and Q4. A little bit build-to-order, and then as well, some of these finished specs that came through in Q1 and Q2 for us.

Ryan Marshall: Yeah. Matt, it's not as if we've got a gigantic chasm to cross from where we're at today to where we're going to be. Q1, we were at 24.4. We're going to be in that same kind of ZIP code for Q2 with a heavy load of finished specs that came with heavy discounts. Then, to go back to our kind of full-year targeted range of 24.5 to 25. It's not as if there's got to be colossal shifts in margin performance in order to be in the guide that we've given.

You, you'll have both the Richer mix of of built order, but it is well, as Ryan's highlighter and I said, in my prepared, comments, as we've gotten more of that, finished spec inventory off the books, um, that will be less, uh, influential as you get out to Q3 and Q4. So a little bit built to order in as well. Some of these finished specs that came through in q1 and Q2 for us.

Yeah and Matt it's it's not a it's not as if we've got a gigantic Chasm to cross from where we're at today today to where we're going to be q1. We were you know at at 2444

We're going to be, um, uh, you know, in that same kind of zip code for Q2 with a heavy load of finished specs that came with heavy discounts.

And then, you know, to go back to our, um, you know, kind of full year, targeted range of of 24 and a half to 25. So it's it's not as if there's got to be um, colossal shifts in margin uh uh performance in order to be in the guide that we've given

Matthew Bouley: Okay. Understood. That's perfect. Thank you. Secondly, you mentioned sort of easing land prices. Question is: How do you think about kind of the timing of what you're seeing in the land market today for when it actually flows through your P&L? Is there kind of a rule of thumb or broad average for Pulte on kind of land costs versus development costs as it pertains to the final lot costs that you ultimately see in your cost basis? Thank you.

Okay, understood, that's perfect. Thank you. And then, um, secondly, you mentioned, uh, sort of easing land prices. So the question is, is—

Ryan Marshall: The general rule of thumb is 50/50. Some markets, it goes 60/40. General rule of thumb, I think, is pretty good at 50/50. In terms of kind of timing from when we contract a piece of land to when you start seeing it flow through the P&L, it's typically in the kind of 18- to 24-month range, depending on how lengthy the entitlement process is. Anything that we're contracting today at lower costs, you're well into late 2027 and beyond before you're going to see the benefit of the lower land cost.

Uh, how do you think about kind of the timing of, you know, what you're seeing on in the land market today for when it actually flows through your P&L? And is there kind of a rule of thumb or broad average for— for pulley on kind of land costs versus development costs as it pertains to the final lot costs that you ultimately see in your cost basis? Thank you.

General rule of thumb is 50/50 um you know some markets it goes 60/40. Um but you know general rule of thumb I think is is pretty pretty good at 50/50 in terms of um kind of timing from 1, we contract piece of land to 1, you start seeing it flow through the p&l. It's typically in the kind of 18 to 24 month range, depending on how lengthy how lengthy the entitlement process is. So, um, you know, anything that we're Contracting today at lower costs, it's, you know, you're well into 27 and late, 27 and Beyond before you're going to see the benefit of the lower land cost.

Matthew Bouley: Perfect. Thanks, Ryan. Good luck, guys.

Ryan Marshall: Thank you.

Perfect. Thanks Ryan. Good luck guys.

Thank you.

Operator: Due to our limited time, your last question will come from the line of Truman Patterson of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Operator: Due to our limited time, your last question will come from the line of Trevor Allinson of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

TT, our limited time. Your last question will come from the line of Trevor Allen. A full research, please go ahead.

Truman Patterson: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. First one is on your approach to share repo here. You've got the new authorization out. Your net leverage is close to 0. I think you mentioned earlier that the cash flow headwind from more BTO is somewhat temporary in nature. Just want to gauge your appetite for accelerating share repo here, maybe ahead of your cash generation, and then your views overall on leverage versus the roughly 0% you're at currently.

Trevor Allinson: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. First one is on your approach to share repo here. You've got the new authorization out. Your net leverage is close to 0. I think you mentioned earlier that the cash flow headwind from more BTO is somewhat temporary in nature. Just want to gauge your appetite for accelerating share repo here, maybe ahead of your cash generation, and then your views overall on leverage versus the roughly 0% you're at currently.

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Uh, first 1 is on your approach to share repo here. You've got the new authorization out. Uh, your net Leverage is close to zero. I think you mentioned earlier that the cash flow had went from more BTO is somewhat temporary in nature. Just want to gauge your appetite uh for accelerating share repo. Uh here maybe ahead of your cash generation and then your views overall on, on Leverage versus the roughly 0%, you're at currently.

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, Truman, this is Ryan. I'll take that one. I'd reiterate that we've been incredibly disciplined on capital allocation. Our focus is on investing in our business. That is our number one priority. It's what our shareholders care about. It's what they've entrusted us to do, and that's how we're structuring the business. Then we're paying a dividend, and we're using the share buybacks as a way to return excess cash that's being generated by a really well-running business back to shareholders in a very tax-efficient way. So, do we have the ability to do a levered buyback, is what I think you're suggesting? Well, sure. We've got the leverage capacity. You could do it. We don't think it's in the best interest long-term of the company.

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, Trevor, this is Ryan. I'll take that one. I'd reiterate that we've been incredibly disciplined on capital allocation. Our focus is on investing in our business. That is our number one priority. It's what our shareholders care about. It's what they've entrusted us to do, and that's how we're structuring the business. Then we're paying a dividend, and we're using the share buybacks as a way to return excess cash that's being generated by a really well-running business back to shareholders in a very tax-efficient way.

Ryan Marshall: So, do we have the ability to do a levered buyback, is what I think you're suggesting? Well, sure. We've got the leverage capacity. You could do it. We don't think it's in the best interest long-term of the company. What you're going to see us do as it relates to leverage, and we've talked about this for the better part of the year, a debt-to-cap ratio will be an outcome as opposed to a targeted goal.

Yeah, Trevor, uh, this is Ryan. I'll I'll take that 1. I'd reiterate that we've been incredibly disappointed on Capital allocation. Our focus is on investing in our business. That is that is our number 1 priority. It's what our shareholders care about, it's what they've entrusted us to do and that's how we're structuring the business. Um, and then we're paying a dividend and we're using the share BuyBacks as a way to return excess cash. It's being generated by a really well-run business, business back to shareholders in a very tax efficient way. Um, so, you know,

Ryan Marshall: What you're going to see us do as it relates to leverage, and we've talked about this for the better part of the year, a debt-to-cap ratio will be an outcome as opposed to a targeted goal. We're going to decide the cash needs of the business based on how we're going to grow it, how much land we're going to buy, how much land we're going to develop, how much inventory, house inventory, et cetera. We'll see how much cash we have. We'll see how much debt we need to go raise to do that. That's going to be the driver of kind of our debt-to-cap leverage ratios as opposed to saying, we want to be a set number, if that makes sense.

Do we have the ability to do a levered buyback? Is what I think you're suggesting? Well sure. We we, you know, we've got a, we've got the leverage capacity, you could do it. We don't think it's in the best interest, long term of the company, um, and so, you know what, you're going to see us do, is it relates to leverage and we've talked about this for the better part of the year.

Ryan Marshall: We're going to decide the cash needs of the business based on how we're going to grow it, how much land we're going to buy, how much land we're going to develop, how much inventory, house inventory, et cetera. We'll see how much cash we have. We'll see how much debt we need to go raise to do that. That's going to be the driver of kind of our debt-to-cap leverage ratios as opposed to saying, we want to be a set number, if that makes sense.

A a a a, a debt to cap ratio will be an outcome as opposed to a targeted goal. Um, we're going to decide the cash needs of the business based on how we're going to grow it. How much land we're going to buy? How much land? We're going to develop how much inventory house, inventory, Etc, and we'll see how much cash we have. We'll see how much debt we need to go raise to do that.

That's going to be the driver of kind of our depth debt to cap, uh, leverage ratios. As opposed to saying, you know, we want to be a set number if that, uh, if that makes sense.

Truman Patterson: Yeah, it does. Thanks for all that color, Ryan. Very helpful. Second one, just on the Midwest. It's been a bright spot for you guys the last couple of years. I think you mentioned some weather impacts there. Maybe also some comp dynamics, just given it's been stronger. Are you starting to see any change in relative performance in the Midwest? Is it not outperforming by as much as what you'd seen in recent quarters? You think that, again, that's more just a comp dynamic and a weather impact that you saw in the quarter?

Trevor Allinson: Yeah, it does. Thanks for all that color, Ryan. Very helpful. Second one, just on the Midwest. It's been a bright spot for you guys the last couple of years. I think you mentioned some weather impacts there. Maybe also some comp dynamics, just given it's been stronger. Are you starting to see any change in relative performance in the Midwest? Is it not outperforming by as much as what you'd seen in recent quarters? You think that, again, that's more just a comp dynamic and a weather impact that you saw in the quarter?

Ryan Marshall: Yeah, we're still really happy with our Midwest performance. It's been great. It continues to be very good. There were a couple of markets that maybe didn't do quite as well as what they had been doing. It wasn't widespread across the entire Midwest. For the couple of markets that were maybe a tad slower than what they had been, we're going to keep watching them. The Midwest and Northeast, for that matter, actually had a real winter for the first time in a long time. Boston, as an example, I think, had snow four or five times. It's probably been at least four or five years since they've had a winter like that. It was, I think, a tougher winter season than what we've historically seen.

Is the last couple of years. I think you mentioned some, some weather impacts their, um, maybe. Also, some comp Dynamics just given it's been stronger. But are you, are you starting to see, uh, any change in relative performance in the midwest? Is it, is it not outperforming by as much as what you've seen in in in recent quarters or you think that again that's more of just a comp Dynamic and and a weather impact that you saw on the quarter

Ryan Marshall: Boston, as an example, I think, had snow four or five times. It's probably been at least four or five years since they've had a winter like that. It was, I think, a tougher winter season than what we've historically seen. Our Midwest business does also tend to be more move-up and active adult, which, as I think we've highlighted quite a bit, continues to be one of the stronger consumer groups.

Ryan Marshall: Our Midwest business does also tend to be more move-up and active adult, which, as I think we've highlighted quite a bit, continues to be one of the stronger consumer groups.

Yeah, I I we're we're still really happy with our Midwest performance. It's it's been great to continue to be very good. Um, there were a couple of markets that maybe didn't do quite as well as what they had been doing, um, but it wasn't, um, widespread, widespread across the entire Midwest. So we're, you know, for the couple of markets that were maybe a tad slower than what they had been. We're going to keep watching them the Midwest and Northeast for that matter. Actually had a real winter for the first time in a long time. Um you know Boston is an example I think had snow 4 or 5 times. It's probably you know, been at least 4 or 5 years since they've had a winter like that. So um you know it was it was a tougher I think the tougher winter season than what we've historically seen um but you know our Midwest business does also tend to be more move up and active adult which you know is I think we've highlighted quite a bit continues to be you know 1 of the stronger uh consumer groups.

Truman Patterson: Thank you for all the color, and good luck moving forward.

Trevor Allinson: Thank you for all the color, and good luck moving forward.

Thank you for all the color and good luck moving forward.

Operator: That concludes the Q&A session. With that, I will now turn the call over to James Zeumer for final closing comments. Please go ahead.

That concludes the Q&A session with that. I will now turn the call over to James zeumer for final closing comments. Please go ahead.

James Zeumer: Thank you. Appreciate everybody's time this morning. I'm sorry we were unable to get through all the questions in the queue, but we'll certainly be available for the remainder of the day, and we will look forward to talking to you on our next earnings call.

Thank you, appreciate everybody's time this morning. I'm sorry we were unable to get through all the questions in the queue, but we'll certainly be available for the remainder of the day.

And we will look forward to talking to you on our next earnings call.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. We thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. We thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.

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