Q2 2026 Kura Sushi USA Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Kura Sushi USA, Inc. fiscal second quarter 2026 earnings conference call.
Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Kura Sushi USA, Inc. FY2026 Q2 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode, and the lines will be open for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this call is being recorded. On the call today, we have Hajime "Jimmy" Uba, President and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Uttz, Chief Financial Officer, and Benjamin Porten, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and System Development.Now I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Porten. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. The lines will be open for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this call is being recorded.
Speaker #1: On the call today, we have Hajime Uba, President and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Uttz, Chief Financial Officer; and Benjamin Porten, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and System Development.
Speaker #1: And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Porten. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining. By now, everyone should have access to our fiscal second quarter 2026 earnings release.
Benjamin Porten: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining. By now, everyone should have access to our FY2026 Q2 earnings release. It can be found at www.kurasushi.com in the investor relations section. A copy of the earnings release has also been included in the 8-K we submitted to the SEC. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that part of our discussion today will include forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore you should not put undue reliance on them. These statements are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect.
Speaker #2: It can be found at www.kurasushi.com in the Investor Relations section. A copy of the earnings release has also been included in the 8-K we submitted to the SEC.
Speaker #2: Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that part of our discussion today will include forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore you should not rely on them. These statements are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect.
Speaker #2: We refer all of you to our SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition.
Benjamin Porten: We refer all of you to our SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. Also, during today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation, nor as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP, and the reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release. With that out of the way, I would like to turn the call over to Jimmy.
Speaker #2: Also, during today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation, nor as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP.
Speaker #2: And the reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release. With that out of the way, I would like to turn the call over to Jimmy.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Vince. And thank you to everyone for joining us on our call today. Entering this fiscal year, we knew that the second fiscal quarter would be critical regarding our ability to accomplish our stated goals, expectations, and full-year guidance.
Hajime Uba: Thanks, Ben, and thank you to everyone for joining us on our call today. Entering this fiscal year, we knew that the FYQ2 would be critical regarding our ability to accomplish our stated goals, expectations, and full-year guidance. As some of you may have seen in this afternoon's release, our fiscal Q2 was quite strong. We have a lot of good news to share today, including better-than-expected comparable sales and record-breaking labor leverage. Let's jump right in. Total sales for the fiscal Q2 were $80 million, representing comparable sales growth of 8.6%, with 4.3% of positive traffic and 4.3% of price on the mix. To provide an update on our goal of flat to slightly positive full-year comparable sales, our year-to-date comparable sales growth as of the end of H1 of FY2026 is now 3%.
Speaker #3: As some of you may have seen in this afternoon's release, our fiscal second quarter was quite strong. We have a lot of good news to share today, including better-than-expected comparable sales and record-breaking labor leverage, so let's jump right in.
Speaker #3: Total sales for the fiscal second quarter were $80 million, representing comparable sales growth of 8.6%, with 4.3% of positive traffic and 4.3% of price under mix.
Speaker #3: To provide an update on our goal of flat-to-slightly positive full-year comparable sales, our year-to-date comparable sales growth as of the end of the first half of fiscal 2026 is now 3%.
Speaker #3: While Q2 is the most favorable quarter in the fiscal year, from a comparative perspective, considering our performance to date, we now expect modestly positive full-year comps.
Hajime Uba: While Q2 is the most favorable quarter in the fiscal year from a comparative perspective, considering our performance to date, we now expect modestly positive full-year comparable sales. Cost of goods as a percentage of sales was 30.4% as compared to the prior year quarter's 28.7%. The tariff situation remains largely unchanged for us, and the minor relief due to the changes in tariff types have been offset by commodity inflation. We continue to expect full-year COGS to be approximately 30%. Labor as a percentage of sales improved by a remarkable 410 basis points from last year's 34.8% to 30.7%, driven by operational initiatives and better sales leverage. Opportunity from labor initiatives scale alongside seasonal leverage, and it's unusual to see this level of impact in the H1 of the fiscal year.
Speaker #3: Cost of goods as a percentage of sales was 30.4%, as compared to the prior year quarter’s 28.7%. The tariff situation remains largely unchanged for us, and the minor relief due to the changes in tariff types has been offset by commodity inflation.
Speaker #3: We continue to expect full-year comps to be approximately 30%. Labor as a percentage of sales improved by a remarkable 400 basis points, from last year’s 34.8% to 30.7%, driven by operational initiatives and better sales leverage.
Speaker #3: Opportunity from labor initiatives scale alongside seasonal leverage, and it's unusual to see this level of impact in the first half of the fiscal year.
Speaker #3: Given our progress to date, our initial goal of improving labor as a percentage of sales by 100 basis points has proven to be conservative.
Hajime Uba: Given our progress to date, our initial goal of improving labor as a percentage of sales by 100 basis points has proven to be conservative. Moving on to unit development. In Q2, we opened one new restaurant in Frisco, Texas. Subsequent to quarter end, we opened four more restaurants, Orange and Union City, California, Goodyear, Arizona, and Wellington, Florida. The openings from FY2026 are shaping up to be just as strong as FY2025, which was the strongest vintage in recent memory. We currently have 80 units under construction.
Speaker #3: Moving on to the unit of development, in the second quarter, we opened one new restaurant in Frugaville, Texas. Subsequent to quarter end, we opened four more restaurants: Orange and Union City, California.
Speaker #3: Goodyear, Arizona, and Wellington, Florida. The openings from fiscal '26 are shaping up to be just as strong as fiscal 2025, which was the strongest vintage in recent memory.
Speaker #3: We currently have eight units under construction. As some of these have very recently broken ground, our expectation for new openings in fiscal '26 remains at 16 units.
Hajime Uba: As some of these have very recently broken ground, our expectation for new openings in FY2026 remains at 16 units. On marketing, it's clear that our strategy of re-emphasizing our IP collaborations is working. Our Kirby collaboration was just as successful as we had hoped, and Nintendo is an excellent partner. Sanrio's evergreen popularity was one of the reasons for our strong performance in February. Our current IP collaboration is with Jujutsu Kaisen, coinciding with the release of their third season. Our next collaboration is with Tamagotchi as part of its 30th anniversary celebration, followed by Honkai: Star Rail.We are making meaningful strides on the introduction of seat steering in our rewards program.
Speaker #3: On marketing, it's clear that our strategy of re-emphasizing our IP collaborations is working. Our Caveat collaboration was just as successful as we had hoped, and Nintendo is an excellent partner.
Speaker #3: Sanrio's evergreen popularity was one of the reasons for our strong performance in February. Our current IP collaboration is with Jujutsu Kaisen, coinciding with the release of their third season.
Speaker #3: Our next collaboration is with Tamagotchi, as part of their It's Starliest anniversary celebration, followed by Honkai Star Race. We are making meaningful strides on the introduction of status clearing in our reverse program.
Speaker #3: This will be the most meaningful evolution in the reverse program since its introduction, and we are hard at work to create something that will delight both new guests and long-time platforms.
Hajime Uba: This will be the most meaningful evolution in the rewards program since its introduction, and we are hard at work to create something that will delight both new guests and long-time profiles. Turning to the reservation system, I'm pleased to report that rewards members using the reservation system have a much higher visitation rate than rewards members who haven't yet.Our two running top complaints have been our wait times and the accuracy of our wait time estimates, and we feel the reservation system has succeeded in addressing these biggest pain points for our guests. We believe that there's a further opportunity by raising awareness over the ability to place reservations and sidestep these waits completely.
Speaker #3: Turning to the reservation system, I'm pleased to report that Reverse members using the reservation system have much higher visitation rates than Reverse members who haven't yet.
Speaker #3: Our two running top complaints have been our wait times and the accuracy of our wait time estimates. And we feel the reservation system has succeeded in addressing these biggest pain points for our guests.
Speaker #3: We believe that there's further opportunity by raising awareness of the ability to place reservations and sidestep these waits completely. To this end, after opening up reservations to non-Reserve members, we were able to grow the number of reservations placed by over 30%.
Hajime Uba: To this end, after opening up reservation to non-Rewards members, we were able to grow the number of reservations placed by over 30%. On Dish Robots, we continue to expect to retrofit the majority of the 50 restaurants that have the space to accommodate them by the end of the fiscal year. It bears mentioning that our expectation to improve labor by 100 basis points for FY2026 does not contemplate the impact of the Dish Robots. We expect the robots to deliver an incremental 50 basis points benefit in FY2027 over wherever we land at the end of this fiscal year. It's my pleasure to be able to report such a strong quarter, and I would like to thank our team members at our restaurants and support center for making this possible.
Speaker #3: On these robots, we continue to expect the lateral feet at the majority of the 50 restaurants that have the space to accommodate them by the end of the fiscal year.
Speaker #3: It bears mentioning that our expectation to improve labor by 100 basis points for fiscal '26 does not contemplate the impact of the dish robots.
Speaker #3: We expect the robot to deliver an incremental 50-basis-point benefit in fiscal '27 over wherever we land at the end of this fiscal year.
Speaker #3: It's my pleasure to be able to report such a strong quarter, and I would like to thank our team members at our restaurants and Support Center for making this possible.
Speaker #3: Before I turn the call over to Jeff, I want to take a moment to address our announcement today and recognize and thank him personally.
Hajime Uba: Before I turn the call over to Jeff, I want to take a moment to address our announcement today and recognize and thank him personally. Jeff has been an invaluable partner to me and to Kura Sushi over the past four years. His strategic insight and financial leadership have been instrumental in our growth journey as a public company. While we will miss his expertise and partnership, we are grateful for everything he has contributed to our success. Jeff, on behalf of everyone at Kura, we would like to wish you the best of luck and success in your future endeavors.
Speaker #3: Jeff has been an invaluable partner to me and to Kura Sushi over the past four years. His strategic insight and financial leadership have been instrumental in our growth journey as a public company.
Speaker #3: While we will miss his expertise and partnership, we are grateful for everything he has contributed to our success. Jeff, on behalf of everyone at KURA, we would like to wish you the best of luck and success in your future endeavors.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Jimmy, for those kind words. It's been an honor and a privilege to serve as CFO of Kura Sushi over the past four years.
Jeff Uttz: Thank you, Jimmy, for those kind words. It's been an honor and a privilege to serve as CFO of Kura Sushi over the past four years. I'm incredibly proud of what we've accomplished together as a team, and I'd like to thank Jimmy, the Board, and every member of the Kura family for their partnership and their trust. Now let me walk you through our fiscal Q2 financial results. For the Q2, total sales were $80 million, as compared to $64.9 million in the prior year period. Comparable restaurant sales growth compared to the prior year period was 8.6%, with 4.3% from traffic and 4.3% from price and mix. Comparable sales growth in our West Coast market was 7.2% and 9.7% in our Southwest market. Effective pricing for the quarter was 4.5%.
Speaker #1: I'm incredibly proud of what we've accomplished together as a team, and I'd like to thank Jimmy, the Board, and every member of the KURA family for their partnership and their trust.
Speaker #1: Now let me walk you through our fiscal second quarter financial results. For the second quarter, total sales were $80 million, as compared to $64.9 million in the prior year period. Comparable restaurant sales growth compared to the prior year period was 8.6%, with 4.3% from traffic and 4.3% from price and mix.
Speaker #1: Comparable sales growth in our West Coast market was 7.2%, and 9.7% in our Southwest market. Effective pricing for the quarter was 4.5%. As a reminder, beginning in the first quarter of fiscal 2027, we will no longer provide regional breakdowns for comparable sales, as regional comps are largely determined by the timing of infills and we do not believe they are indicative of overall company trends.
Jeff Uttz: As a reminder, beginning in Q1 of FY2027, we will no longer provide regional breakdowns for comparable sales, as regional comps are largely determined by the timing of infills, and we do not believe they are indicative of overall company trends. Turning now to costs. Food and beverage costs as a percentage of sales were 30.4%, compared to 28.7% in the prior year quarter, due to tariffs on imported ingredients. Labor and related costs as a percentage of sales were 30.7%, as compared to 34.8% in the prior year quarter, due to operational efficiencies, pricing, and better sales leverage, partially offset by low single-digit wage inflation. Occupancy and related expenses as a percentage of sales were 8.1%, compared to the prior year quarter's 7.9%.
Speaker #1: Turning now to costs, food and beverage costs as a percentage of sales were 30.4%, compared to 28.7% in the prior year quarter, due to tariffs on imported ingredients.
Speaker #1: Labor and related costs as a percentage of sales were 30.7%, as compared to 34.8% in the prior year quarter, due to operational efficiencies, pricing, and better sales leverage, partially offset by low single-digit wage inflation.
Speaker #1: Occupancy and related expenses as a percentage of sales were 8.1%, compared to the prior year quarter's 7.9%. Depreciation and amortization expense as a percentage of sales was 5.2%, as compared to the prior year quarter's 5.1%.
Jeff Uttz: Depreciation and amortization expense as a percentage of sales were 5.2%, as compared to the prior year quarter's 5.1%. Other costs as a percentage of sales were 14.5%, as compared to the prior year quarter's 13.5%, due to higher promotional and utility costs. General and administrative expenses as a percentage of sales were 13.7%, as compared to 16.9% in the prior year quarter. Fiscal Q2 of 2026 includes $1.2 million of litigation expenses, as compared to $2.1 million of litigation expenses in the prior year. Operating loss was $2.2 million, compared to an operating loss of $4.6 million in the prior year quarter. Income tax expense was $51,000, as compared to $38,000 in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #1: Other costs as a percentage of sales were 14.5%, as compared to the prior year quarter's 13.5%, due to higher promotional and utility costs. General and administrative expenses as a percentage of sales were 13.7%, as compared to 16.9% in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #1: Fiscal second quarter 2026 includes $1.2 million of litigation expenses, as compared to $2.1 million of litigation expenses in the prior year. Operating loss was $2.2 million, compared to an operating loss of $4.6 million in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #1: Income tax expense was $51,000, as compared to $38,000 in the prior year quarter, and net loss was $1.7 million, or -14 cents per share, compared to a net loss of $3.8 million, or -31 cents per share, in the prior year quarter.
Jeff Uttz: Net loss was $1.7 million, or negative $0.14 per share, compared to a net loss of $3.8 million, or negtive $0.31 per share in the prior year quarter. Adjusted net loss, which excludes the litigation expense, was $502,000, or negative $0.14 per share, as compared to adjusted net loss of $1.7 million, or negative $0.14 per share in the prior year quarter. Restaurant level operating profit as a percentage of sales was 18.2%, compared to 17.3% in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $5.5 million, as compared to $2.7 million in the prior year quarter. At the end of the fiscal Q2, we had $69.7 million in cash equivalents, and investments, and no debt. Lastly, I'd like to update and reiterate the following guidance for fiscal year 2026.
Speaker #1: Adjusted net loss, which excludes the litigation expense, was $502,000, or negative 0.4 cents per share, as compared to adjusted net loss of $1.7 million, or negative 14 cents per share, in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #1: Restaurant-level operating profit as a percentage of sales was 18.2%, compared to 17.3% in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $5.5 million, as compared to $2.7 million in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #1: And at the end of the fiscal second quarter, we had $69.7 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments, and no debt. And lastly, I'd like to update and reiterate the following guidance for fiscal year 2026.
Speaker #1: We now expect total sales to be between $333 million and $335 million. We expect to open 16 new units, maintaining an annual unit growth rate above 20%, with average net capital expenditures per unit continuing at approximately $2.5 million.
Jeff Uttz: We now expect total sales to be between $333 and 335 million. We expect to open 16 new units, maintaining an annual unit growth rate above 20%, with average net capital expenditures per unit continuing to approximately $2.5 million. We now expect G&A expenses as a percentage of sales to be approximately 12%, excluding litigation expense. We now expect full-year restaurant level operating profit margins to be between 18% and 18.5%. With that, I'd like to turn it back over to Jimmy.
Speaker #1: And we now expect G&A expenses as a percentage of sales to be approximately 12%, excluding litigation expense. And we now expect full-year restaurant-level operating profit margins to be between 18% and 18.5%.
Speaker #1: And with that, I'd like to turn it back over to Jimmy.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jeff. This concludes our prepared analysis. We are now happy to answer any questions you have. Operator, please open the line for questions. As a reminder, during the Q&A session, I may answer in Japanese before my response is translated into English.
Hajime Uba: Thanks, Jeff. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are now happy to answer any questions you have. Operator, please open the line for questions. As a reminder, during the Q&A session, I may answer in Japanese before my response is translated into English.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue.
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Speaker #1: The first question comes from the line of Andrew Charles with TD Cowen. Please proceed.
Speaker #3: Great, thank you very much. I was a bit surprised, following the big two-queue same-store sales beat, that revenue guidance was only inched up. You're looking at consensus forecast.
Andrew Charles: Great. Thank you very much. I was a bit surprised, upon the big Q2 same-store sales beat, that revenue guidance was inched up. You're looking at consensus forecast. Looks like you're blessing the back half of the midpoint. Does that reflect conservatism in H2 of the year? Or perhaps you can comment on what you're seeing with the new store productivity as well.
Speaker #3: It looks like you're blessing the back half at the midpoint. So, does that reflect conservatism in the back half of the year? Or perhaps you can comment on what you're seeing with the new store productivity as well?
Speaker #4: Thank you, Andrew, for your first question. But please allow me to speak in Japanese based on a translation of your question. ご留意くださいと。これだけお願いします。
Hajime Uba: Thank you, Andrew, for your first question. Please allow me to speak in Japanese. Ben is going to translate your question.
Benjamin Porten: Hey, Charles. Or Andrew Charles. My grandfather's name is Charles. Hey, Andrew, this is Ben. In terms of the guidance that we've provided, it incorporates the better-than-expected performance of Q2, but just given there's a war going on and we don't know how it's going to play out, we felt it was prudent in terms of our guidance just to add the upside from Q2, but not to extrapolate further from that. It doesn't reflect conservatism or pessimism. It's just prudence.
Speaker #1: Hi. Hey, Charles—or Andrew, Charles. My grandfather's name is Charles. Hey, Andrew, this is Ben. In terms of the guidance that we've provided, it really incorporates the better-than-expected performance of Q2. But just given there's a war going on and we don't know how it's going to play out, we felt it was prudent, in terms of our guidance, just to add the upside from Q2, but not to extrapolate further from that.
Speaker #1: It doesn't reflect conservatism or pessimism; it's just prudence.
Speaker #3: Okay, fair enough. And then, curious, what drove the improvement in mix to roughly flat? What are you seeing there in terms of attachments or beverages, etc.?
Andrew Charles: Okay, fair enough. Curious, what drove the improvement in mix to roughly flat? What are you seeing there in terms of attachments or beverages, et cetera, that helped improve that performance?
Speaker #3: That helped improve that performance?
Speaker #4: So, on the beginning of IT collaboration の効果によって出たものだというふうには理解しています。
Benjamin Porten: [Non-English content]. The biggest factor would be our guests were eating more plates per person. Our interpretation is that this is a reflection of the success of the IPs. When we have compelling IPs, people are that much more incentivized to go for that 15th plate or to hit the spending threshold for our giveaways.
Speaker #1: The biggest factor would be our guests were eating more plates per person. Our interpretation is that this is a reflection of the success of the IPs when we have compelling IPs.
Speaker #1: People are that much more incentivized to go for that 15th plate or to hit the spending threshold for our giveaways.
Speaker #3: Awesome. Very good. And Jeff, all the best in your new role.
Andrew Charles: Awesome. Very good. Jeff, all the best in your new role.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate it.
Operator: Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate it. The next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks with Benchmark StoneX. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: The next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks with Benchmark Stonex. Please proceed.
Speaker #5: Hey, congrats on a really great quarter. And Jeff, best of luck in your next stop here. So, two questions, if I may. One, you talked about the margin leverage in this business and kind of the ability to claw your way back towards a 20% restaurant-level operating margin.
Todd Brooks: Hey, congrats on a really great quarter, and Jeff, best of luck in your next stop here. Two questions, if I may. One, you talked about the margin leverage in this business and the ability to claw your way back towards a 20% restaurant level operating margin without any sort of tariff relief. I think at a recent conference, Jimmy, you talked about some successful negotiations with some suppliers. We saw outsized labor leverage here. I guess, where are we in that journey, and when would you think Kura has the ability to get back to that 20% level?
Speaker #5: Without any sort of tariff relief, I think at a recent conference, Jimmy, you talked about some successful negotiations with some suppliers. We saw outsized labor leverage here.
Speaker #5: I guess, where are we in that journey, and when would you kind of think Kura has the ability to get back to that 20% level?
Speaker #4: So negotiationに関してはうまいこといったんですけど、残念ながらですね、実はタリフと関係ないところでのシーフードのイミグレーションっていうのが結構予想以上に来てて、その私のネゴシエーションの効果は残念ながらオフセットされる予定なんで、今回のプリペイドリマックスと言いましたけど、コックスに関してはおそらく30%前後で落ち着くというふうになってるんで、そこはちょっとマージンのエクスパンションには貢献しないと思ってます。それ以外はやっぱり今回400ベースポイント以上のレイバーコストやりましたんで、やっぱそれが引き続き27も続いていくこと、それプラスディッシュロボット、によってさらに50ベースポイントのことができること、あとプラスもちろんQ2の今回良かったんですけど、フルイヤーで言うとモデストのコンプですけども、来年以降は特にニューマーケットにオープンできることでカニバリのインパクト半減できると思いますね。そういったコンプのセールスのレバレッジですとか、あとレイバーのこと、そちらが主に18%だか20%できるレイバードライバーになると思ってます。ごめん、ちょっと長くなったけど。
Benjamin Porten: Hey, Todd, this is Ben. We're very pleased with how the negotiations between Jimmy and our suppliers went. Unfortunately, we've seen higher than expected inflation in some of our seafood inputs separately from tariffs. The upside to Jimmy's negotiations have largely been offset. We're thinking of it in terms of, thanks to the negotiations, we're able to continue to maintain our expectation of give or take 30% COGS for the full-year. We don't expect that to be accretive to a margin opportunity.
Speaker #1: Hi. Hey, Todd. This is Ben. So we're very pleased with how the negotiations between Jimmy and our suppliers went. Unfortunately, we've seen higher-than-expected inflation in some of our seafood inputs, separately from tariffs.
Speaker #1: And so the upside to Jimmy's negotiations have largely been offset. We're thinking of it in terms of, thanks to the negotiations, we're able to continue to maintain our expectation of, give or take, 30% COGS for the full year.
Speaker #1: And so, we don't expect that to be accretive to a margin opportunity. The biggest would be, as we look to next year, as Jimmy mentioned in his prepared remarks, the dish robots. We expect an incremental 50 basis points in terms of leverage.
Benjamin Porten: The biggest would be, as we look to next year, as Jimmy mentioned in his prepared remarks, the Dish Robots, we expect an incremental 50 basis points in terms of leverage, or in terms of labor improvement. Next year we have a, previously we've been saying a 50/50 split between new and existing markets.That's actually shifted even more in our favor to 55/45. The new markets have no impact to capitalization, and so that will be a tailwind for FY2027. All things equal, new markets outperform. Between those things, we feel very confident in our ability to get back to that 20% without tariff relief. In the near future.
Speaker #1: Or, I'm sorry, in terms of labor improvement. And next year, previously we’ve been saying a 50-50 split between new and existing markets.
Speaker #1: That's actually shifted even more in our favor to 55-45. These new markets have no impact to capitalization, and so that will be a tailwind for fiscal '27.
Speaker #1: And all things equal, new markets outperform. And so between those things, we feel very confident in our ability to get back to that 20% without tariff relief.
Speaker #1: In the near future.
Todd Brooks: Okay, great. Perfect. Then my follow-up question, I'll jump back in queue. I think, Jim, when you were kind of rolling through it, you talked about some future IP partnerships. Can we just review those again so that we pick up the detail behind the upcoming partnerships? As we're starting to think about, I think at the end of April, this window of IP versus no IP in the prior year. As we're looking forward into Q3 here, can you remind us what we're comparing against? Just give us a qualitative sense of the strength of the partnerships that you see coming up in the future versus what Kura ran last year. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Perfect. And then my follow-up question—I'll jump back in the queue. If—and I think, Jimmy, when you were kind of rolling through it, you talked about some future IP partnerships.
Speaker #5: Can we just review those again so that we pick up the detail behind the upcoming partnerships? And as we're starting to think about it, I think at the end of April, this window of IP versus no IP in the prior year, and so as we're looking forward into Q3 here, can you remind us what we're comparing against?
Speaker #5: I just want to—and just give us a qualitative sense of the strength of the partnerships that you see coming up in the future versus what Kura ran last year.
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Got it. Hey, Todd, this is Ben. The ones that we have lined up after Jujutsu Kaisen are Tamagotchi—which is coinciding with its 30th anniversary—and then we have a partnership with a video game called Honkai: Star Rail.
Benjamin Porten: Got it. Hi, Todd- this is Ben. The ones that we have lined up after "Jujutsu Kaisen" are "Tamagotchi," which is coinciding with its 30th anniversary, and then we have a partnership with a video game called "Honkai: Star Rail." In terms of your question, yes, at the end of April, we'll be ending the lapping of the lack of IPs. Starting from the last week of April through May, we had "Peanuts," and then actually for June, we had "Peanuts" as well. Those months were pretty strong. We had "Hololive," which was a strong performer as well. That sort of goes back to Jimmy's earlier comment about Q2 being the easiest point of comparison. Please do not model 8% comparable sales growth on a go-forward basis.
Speaker #1: In terms of your question, yes, at the end of April, we'll be ending the—we'll be ending the lapping of the lack of IPs. Starting from the last week of April through May, we had Peanuts, and then actually through June, we have Peanuts as well.
Speaker #1: Those months were pretty strong. And then we had Hololive, which was a strong performer as well. And so that sort of goes back to Jimmy's earlier comment about Q2 being the easiest point of comparison.
Speaker #1: Please do not model 8% comps on a go-forward basis.
Speaker #5: Okay, I'll change the bottle now. Thanks, Ben.
Todd Brooks: Okay. I'll change the model now. Thanks, Ben.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Todd.
Benjamin Porten: Thanks, Todd.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Steph.
Hajime Uba: Thanks, Todd.
Speaker #1: The next question comes from the line of Jeremy Hamblin with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Jeremy Hamblin with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.
Speaker #6: Thanks, and congrats on the strong results. I want to revisit just the tariff ruling, and in terms of thinking about, obviously, some volatility on sourcing, and the potential for freight costs to be passed through as well, given the war.
Jeremy Hamblin: Thanks, and congrats on the strong results. I want to revisit just the tariff ruling and in terms of thinking about, obviously, some volatility on sourcing potential for freight costs to be passed through as well, given the war. Just in terms of understanding the tariff aspect of your food cost that's embedded here, what's the timing where you would expect, given your kind of forward contracts, to potentially have some benefit, all else being equal? Are we looking at kind of the June timeframe, just given the change in the global tariff rate?
Speaker #6: But just in terms of understanding the tariff aspect of your food costs that's embedded here, what's the timing where you would expect—given your kind of forward contracts—to potentially have some benefit, all else being equal?
Speaker #6: Are we looking at kind of the June timeframe just given the change in the global tariff rate?
Speaker #4: So I'm happy to answer this question. From the beginning, protein order したかによりますけども、新しいタリフのレートになってからプレオーダーしたものはその範囲になるんです。ただ、いろんな多岐にわたる牛肉だけとかメインでやってるものじゃなくて、いろんなプロテインになってるんで、タイミングもどっかのタイミングで一気にコックスが改善されるとかっていうのは我々は期待してないです。なので、我々の今期の通知ファイルでも通期の終わるまでのエクスペクテーションというのはアバウト 30%、アップエクスペクテーション 30% ということに変わりません。
Benjamin Porten: I'm happy to answer this question. Hey, Jeremy, this is Ben. To your point earlier, we do make forward contracts for some of our proteins. Because our basket is so wide, the contracts don't expire on the same date, so to speak. They're all sort of overlapping. There wouldn't be a moment where we would expect a really meaningful shift. The other thing that bears mentioning is with the tariffs, while the IEEPA tariffs were taken down, they were replaced by other tariffs. The relief was really quite minor for us, and this has been offset by fuel costs and just protein inflation in our basket.
Speaker #1: はい. Hey, Jeremy. This is Ben. So to your point earlier, we do make forward contracts for some of our proteins. Because our basket is so wide, we have the contracts don't expire on the same date, so to speak.
Speaker #1: They're all sort of overlapping, and so there wouldn't be a moment where we would expect a really meaningful shift. The other thing that Bear's mentioning is with the tariffs—while the IPA tariffs were taken down, they were replaced by other tariffs.
Speaker #1: And so the relief was really quite minor for us. And this has been offset by fuel costs and just protein inflation in our basket.
Speaker #6: Got it. So with that, I wanted to talk about the kind of technology investments that you guys have been making which have had nice success—the reservation system, robotic dishwashing.
Jeremy Hamblin: Got it. With that, I wanted to talk about technology investments that you guys have been making, which have had nice success, the reservation system, robotic dishwashing. In terms of other labor initiatives, because it looks like you guys have made some really nice progress, tremendous progress on the labor front. Can you talk about, with so many tools now available, and you guys have really been an industry leader in making technology investments to help make your business operations more efficient, can you just talk about some of these tools that are available, whether they're AI generative tools to help with labor scheduling or otherwise, that provide some opportunity on a go-forward basis, whether it's in FY2026, but more likely in the future, just to potentially really refine the business model?
Speaker #6: In terms of other labor initiatives, because it looks like you guys have made some really nice progress—tremendous progress on the labor front—can you talk about, with so many tools now available, and you guys have really been an industry leader in making technology investments to help make your business operations more efficient, can you just talk about some of these tools that are available, whether they're kind of AI-generative tools to help with labor scheduling or otherwise, that provide some opportunity on a go-forward basis, whether it's in FY26, but more likely in the future?
Speaker #6: Just to potentially really refine the business model.
Speaker #4: So first,これまで何度かお話してきた数字スライダー。これはUSのサーティフィケーションをオブテインしましたんで、これもちろんそんなフィフティーベーシックモデルとか大きなインパクトじゃなくて、新しいレストランのハイボリュームなレストランのウィークエンドとか、そういったところでのシステムワイド的なインパクトっていうのは少ないですけども、そういった新しいものがどれかっていうことを共有しておきたいと思います。その他にもいろいろどちらかというとそのレイバーのエフィシエントというか、どちらかとフードのクオリティをコンシスタントにするための出汁のディスペンサーとか、そういったものにも同時に進行して進めてるってことをお伝えしておきたいなと思います。あとはAIに関しては基本的にはタトルというお客さんからのフィードバックを自動的に集計してエリアマネージャーにこの各店がどういったオポチュニティがあるかとかをやってくれると、そういったところも使ったりとかしてるんです。そういったところがGM&Aのヘルプになってるというふうに思ってます。一旦ちょっとここで止めたいと思います。
Hajime Uba: So. [Non-English content]
Speaker #1: Hi. Hey, Jeremy. So to give you an update on the robotic dishwashers, we expect to finish the installation of our first 10, or tranche of the first 10, by the end of this month.
Benjamin Porten: Hey, Jeremy. To give you an update on the robotic dishwashers, we expect to finish the installation of our first 10, or tranche of the first 10, by the end of this month. We're very happy with the progress. Jimmy's happy to announce that we've actually gotten approval for American use for technology that we've mentioned in past calls, the Sushi Slider. This will be limited to new store openings, and we don't expect a straight headcount reduction in the way that we'd expect with the robotic dishwashers. This will be a market opportunity, especially for higher volume restaurants on weekends. In terms of the tech things that we're looking at, we're focused a lot on using technology to improve food quality and food consistency.
Speaker #1: And so we're very happy with the progress. Jimmy's happy to announce that we've actually gotten approval for American use for technology that we'd mentioned in past calls.
Speaker #1: The sushi slider. And so, this will be limited to new store openings. We don't expect a straightforward headcount reduction in the way that we'd expect with the robotic dishwashers.
Speaker #1: But this will be a margin opportunity, especially for higher-volume restaurants on weekends. In terms of the tech things that we're looking at, we're focused a lot on using technology to improve food quality and food consistency.
Speaker #1: And we're also starting to explore more guest-facing technologies as well, that aren't as focused on efficiency as much as they are focused on fun.
Benjamin Porten: We're also starting to explore more guest-facing technologies as well, that aren't as focused on efficiency as much as they are focused on fun, which we see as a meaningful opportunity in terms of driving traffic as well going forward. In terms of AI, we're using a couple. We're using the social media listening tool right now, but I've been assigned AI broadly. I'm the chair of our new AI committee, and this is eating most of my time, and so I hope to have exciting updates for you guys in the future.
Speaker #1: Which we see as a meaningful opportunity in terms of driving traffic as well going forward. In terms of AI, we're using a couple— we're using the social media listening tool right now.
Speaker #1: I'm, but I've been assigned AI broadly. I'm the chair of our new AI committee, and this is large—this is eating most of my time. So I hope to have exciting updates for you guys in the future.
Speaker #4: I'm looking at opportunity. AI and opportunityで言うと、メニューとかIPの開発とか、そういったところも最終的に活かせるんじゃないかなと思ってます。まだスタートしてないですけど、そういったことも将来的に考えてます。
Hajime Uba: [Non-English content]
Speaker #1: Yeah, really, it's kind of shocking how meaningful this drive has been. And in terms of the ease of making specialized tools for your business.
Benjamin Porten: Really, it's kind of shocking how meaningful the strides have been, and in terms of the ease of making specialized tools for your business. We see a lot of really exciting things we can do. One obvious application would be to try to hone in on the batting average of our IP collaborations. That would be something that we'd be really excited about.
Speaker #1: And so we see a lot of really, really exciting things we can do. One obvious application would be to try to hone in on the batting average of our IP collaborations.
Speaker #1: That would be something that we'd be really excited about.
Speaker #6: Great, thanks for the call. And best wishes to the team and Jeff on his next endeavor.
Jeremy Hamblin: Great. Thanks for the color and best wishes to the team and Jeff on his next endeavor.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Jeremy.
Hajime Uba: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Jeremy. The next question comes from the line of Jeff Bernstein with Barclays. Please proceed.
Benjamin Porten: Thanks, Jeremy.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Jeff Bernstein with Barclays. Please proceed.
Speaker #5: Hi. This is Anisha on for Jeff Bernstein. Before my question, I wanted to thank Jeff for four years of collaboration and wish him all the best going forward.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Hi, this is Anisha on for Jeff Bernstein. Before my question, I wanted to thank Jeff for four years of collaboration and wish him all the best going forward. As you think about bringing a new CFO, what capabilities or prior experience are most important given Kura's next phase of growth, particularly around unit development, capital allocation, or systems as the business continues to scale?
Speaker #5: As you think about bringing in a new CFO, what capabilities or prior experience are most important, given Kura's next phase of growth, particularly around unit development, capital allocation, or systems as the business continues to scale?
Speaker #4: もちろんアプリカンパニーのCFOとして今見てるがおっしゃったような全てのスキルですとかナレッジ持ってる人がいそうだと思ってますんで、これから我々ノミネーティングコミッティ去年設立しましたんで、ノミネーティングコミッティのメンバーと一緒に自分はもう素晴らしいエスタブリッシュされたCFOですけども、彼に負けないようなクオリフィケーション高い人って採用できるように少し時間をかけてやっていきたいなと思ってます。
Hajime Uba: [Non-English content]
Speaker #1: Yeah. Hey, Anisha, this is Ben. Jeff has been such a great partner to us. We really set high expectations for the role, and we're looking for somebody who can satisfy that.
Benjamin Porten: Yeah. Hey, Anisha. This is Ben. Jeff has been such a great partner to us. We really set high expectations for the role, and we're looking for somebody who can satisfy that. That's something that our nominating committee is working on right now. All those qualifications that you've mentioned. Personally, I would love somebody as charming and charismatic as Mr. Uttz. It's been a lot of fun working with him. We're not in a rush to fill this spot for the sake of filling the spot. We know it's a very important role, and we're going to give it the appropriate attention.
Speaker #1: And so that's something that our nominating committee is working on right now. All those qualifications that you've mentioned, personally, I would love somebody as charming and charismatic as Mr. Uttz.
Speaker #1: It's been a lot of fun working with him, and so we're not in a rush to fill this spot for the sake of filling the spot.
Speaker #1: We know it's a very, very important role, and we're going to give it the appropriate attention.
Speaker #5: Great. And as a follow-up, you've got it to around 20% unit growth for fiscal '26. So looking beyond that, what gives you confidence that a similar growth rate is sustainable into fiscal '27?
[Analyst] (Barclays): Great. As a follow up, you've guided to around 20% unit growth for fiscal 2026. Looking beyond that, what gives you confidence that a similar growth rate is sustainable into fiscal 2027? And what key guardrails are most important to preserve as the system scales?
Speaker #5: And what key guardrails are most important to preserve as the system scales?
Speaker #4: まずニーズダウンに関して今もパイプラインやってますんで、もう20%としてのしっかりできるようなパイプラインで自信を持ってます。確約できると思います。重要なところっていうのはやはり開けるだけ開けてですね、ユニットエコノミクスがどんどんダウンとかしていくと、そういったことですとかオペレーションが乱れると、そういったことないようにするんですけど、27に関しては数に関してもそういったクオリティに関しても全く問題なく遂行できるんで、できるだけ長く20%を維持していきたいというふうには考えてます。ただやっぱり同時にフレキシブルにもっとできたと思うんで、しっかりモニターしてニューレストのパフォーマンスですとかオペレーションの状況、そういったのをしっかりモニターしてやるべき時はしっかりチェンジすべき時はチェンジする決断を下していきたいなと思ってます。
Hajime Uba: [Non-English content]
Speaker #1: So, as it relates to fiscal '27, we already have our pipeline built, and so we feel very confident about our ability to hit that 20% unit growth for fiscal '27.
Benjamin Porten: As it relates to fiscal 2027, we already have our pipeline built, and so we feel very confident about our ability to hit that 20% unit growth for fiscal 2027. In terms of the gating factors, the way that we've always thought about it would be if our new units are not meeting our expectations, if they're coming in below the system average for unit economics, that would cause us to seriously reconsider how quickly we're growing. As Jimmy mentioned earlier, fiscal 2025 was one of the strongest years we've opened in recent memory, and fiscal 2026 is shaping up very strong as well.
Speaker #1: In terms of the gating factors, the way that we've always thought about it would be if our new units are not meeting our expectations, if they're coming in below the average the system average for unit economics, that would seriously that would cause us to seriously reconsider how quickly we're growing.
Speaker #1: But as Jimmy mentioned earlier, fiscal '25 is one of the strongest years we've opened in recent memory. And fiscal '26 is shaping up very strong as well.
Speaker #1: And so we're really pleased with that, and we'd like for it to continue as long as possible. At the same time, we don't want that 20% to become the tail that wags the dog.
Benjamin Porten: We're really pleased with that, and we'd like to sustain that 20% unit growth for as long as possible. At the same time, we don't want that 20% to become the tail that wags the dog. We're always looking at it critically. It's not a blind chase of a number, and should circumstances change, we'd like to maintain our flexibility. For where we have visibility as it stands today, we feel good about that 20%.
Speaker #1: And so, if ever we would, we’re always looking at it critically. It’s not a blind chase of a number. And, should circumstances change, we’d like to maintain our flexibility.
Speaker #1: But for where we have visibility as it stands today, we feel good about that 20%.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Great. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Sharon Zachia with William Blair. Please proceed.
Benjamin Porten: Thank you.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please proceed.
Speaker #7: Hi, thanks for taking the question. I guess I have two. The first is kind of going back to one of the initial questions on—I guess, Jimmy, you said slightly positive comps for the year.
Sharon Zackfia: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I guess I have two. The first is kind of going back to one of the initial questions on, I guess, Jimmy, you said slightly positive comps for the year, and you can kind of get there with no comps for the rest of the year. I get that there's geopolitical uncertainty and all of that, but are you seeing anything in the business that would suggest that you can't maintain positive comps for the rest of the year?
Speaker #7: And you can kind of get there with no comps for the rest of the year. And I get that there’s geopolitical uncertainty and all of that.
Speaker #7: But are you seeing anything in the business that would suggest that you can't maintain positive comps for the rest of the year?
Speaker #1: Honestly, いろんなアンサンブルでやるんで、その辺りに関してちょっと少し大きな幅を持たせておきたいと考えているところです。というのも、やっぱり去年一昨年かな、ここでアップグレードしたその後ダウングレードしたっていう局面があるんで、今回このアップグレードしたのもちょっとコンサバティブにあったっていうのは正直あるんで、それは踏まえてもらったらシャロンもそのストーリーしてると思うんで、それを踏まえていただけたらと思います。 So Sharon, I'm sure you recall the traumatic and unfortunate experience a couple of years ago where we raised guidance and then in a number of weeks we had to lower guidance below the initial guidance.
Benjamin Porten: Sharon, I'm sure you recall the traumatic and unfortunate experience a couple of years ago where we raised guidance, and then in a number of weeks, we had to lower guidance below the initial guidance. That's sort of informed a level of conservatism in the way that we provide guidance ever since. Having had that lesson and knowing today that the president has a deadline and we don't know what's going to happen, it just seems irresponsible to get ahead of our skis. The guidance reflects what we're seeing to date and what we're confident that we can hit. We're pleased with how the quarter is going so far. Just looking at how the environment is, we're pleased with how things are proceeding.
Speaker #1: And that's sort of informed a level of conservatism in the way that we provide guidance ever since. But having had that lesson, and knowing today that the president has a deadline and we don't know what's going to happen, it just seems irresponsible to get ahead of our skis.
Speaker #1: And so the guidance reflects what we're seeing today and what we're confident that we can hit.
Speaker #4: As opposed to earlier,我々今クォータートゥデイズの結果、ハッピーですと。
Speaker #1: And we're pleased with how the report is going so far.
Speaker #4: 今現在の環境を考えれば。
Speaker #1: Just looking at how the environment is, we're pleased with how things are proceeding.
Speaker #5: Okay. Second question is, it may have been causal, it may have been coincidental, but it certainly felt like the company got a lot more discipline around G&A when Jeff joined the company.
Sharon Zackfia: Okay. Second question is, it may have been causal or may have been coincidental, but it certainly felt like the company got a lot more disciplined around G&A when Jeff joined the company. I guess I'm curious, do you think now that's part of the muscle memory of the company and ingrained that you will seek G&A leverage on an ongoing basis, even as Jeff departs? Again, sorry to see you go, Jeff.
Speaker #5: And I guess I’m curious—do you think that’s now part of the muscle memory of the company and ingrained, that you will seek G&A leverage on an ongoing basis, even as Jeff departs?
Speaker #5: And again, sorry, I see you. Go ahead, Jeff.
Jeff Uttz: Thanks, Sharon. I mean, I'll let Jim and Ben address going forward, but we made a lot of strides. I'm proud of the team. I was fortunate to be in the driver's seat for the G&A reduction and kind of lead the charge, but the team really stepped up, and over 400 basis points in just over 3 years is quite a bit when you multiply that by the trading multiples and all that. It's quite a bit to our valuation that I'm quite proud of. Going forward, as Jim said earlier, as they search for a new CFO, they're not going to rush it, and it humbles me and makes me feel proud that the company thinks of me the way that they do.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Sharon. I mean, I'll let Jimmy and Ben address going forward. But we made a lot of strides—I'm proud of the team. I was fortunate to be in the driver's seat for the G&A reduction and kind of lead the charge.
Speaker #1: But the team really stepped up, and over 400 basis points in just over three years is quite a bit. When you kind of multiply that by the trading multiples and all that, it's quite a bit to our valuation that I'm quite proud of.
Speaker #1: Going forward, as Jimmy said earlier, as I search for a new CFO, they're not going to rush it. And it humbles me and makes me feel proud that the company thinks of me the way that they do.
Speaker #1: And I wish them the best. And I'll be on the sideline, continuing to watch what they do. And I hope that the new CFO continues to lead this to a single-digit G&A at some point, as I have promised in the past.
Jeff Uttz: I wish them the best, and I'll be on the sideline continuing to watch what they do, and I hope that the new CFO continues to lead this to a single-digit G&A at some point, as I have promised in the past.
Speaker #4: Well, as you all know, thank you. もちろんリスクが抜けたらすごく大きいんですけども、新しい仕事ともに彼がやり方を示してくれましたから、我々そこから学んでしっかり引き続きG&Aレバレッジをこれからも発揮して、彼が言ったみたいにシングルデジットのとこまで持っていってプロフィット率改善していきたいなと思ってます。
Benjamin Porten: Yeah, Jeff has carved such a clear and sustainable path forward for us that we absolutely expect to continue to leverage G&A, and that's going to be one of the primary mandates for whoever becomes the next CFO. As much as I would love to double my salary, we know that there are more prudent ways to spend our money. It's one of the things that our investors have come to expect. It's part of our guidance, and so it's part of our report card at this point. Jeff leaving doesn't change that.
Speaker #1: Yeah, Jeff has carved such a clear and sustainable path forward for us that we absolutely expect to continue to leverage G&A. And that's going to be one of the primary mandates for whoever becomes the next CFO. As much as I would love to double my salary, we know that there are more prudent ways to spend our money.
Speaker #1: It's one of the things that our investors have come to expect. It's part of our guidance, and so it's just part of our report card at this point.
Speaker #1: And so Jeff leaving doesn't change that.
Speaker #5: Okay. Great. Thank you.
Sharon Zackfia: Okay, great. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Sharon.
Benjamin Porten: Thank you, Sharon.
Speaker #1: The next question comes from the line of Mark Smith with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Mark Smith with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Speaker #8: Hi, guys. I wanted to dig into the comp just a little bit. And sorry if I missed any update on this. But can you guys speak at all to March and maybe as we saw gas prices rise?
Mark Smith: Hi, guys. I wanted to dig into the comp just a little bit, and sorry if I missed any update on this. Can you guys speak at all to March and maybe as we saw gas prices rise, any changes in consumer behavior and potentially if in the past if gas prices have had a significant impact on your consumer, whether it be the plates that they eat or traffic trends?
Speaker #8: Any changes in consumer behavior? And potentially, in the past, if gas prices have had a significant impact on your consumer, whether it be the plates that they eat or traffic trends?
Speaker #4: First of all, like I said, March というかクォータートゥデイズの今の進捗に関して我々はまずハッピーだということと、あともう一つはこれ我々にっていうところではなくて、やっぱり今現在カリフォルニアでは $6 ガロン超えてますんで、今の環境下で全く影響を受けないってことはやっぱり一般的にはないだろうというふうに、それは一般的なコメントとして挙げさせてもらいたいと思います。でも我々は今現在ここまでのところは自分たちのパフォーマンスはハッピーだということです。
Benjamin Porten: As Jimmy mentioned earlier, excuse me. We're happy with how the quarter to date is going. As it relates to gas prices, Jimmy and I, we're in California, gas prices are $6. Whether we're talking about KR or any other company, it would be foolish to think that this would not have an impact on the consumer. That being said, we are pleased with performance. Yeah, that's where we are.
Speaker #1: As mentioned earlier, we're happy with how the quarter to date is going. As it relates to gas prices, Jimmy and I were in California. Gas prices were $6.
Speaker #1: Whether we're talking about Peru or any other company, it would be foolish to think that this would not have an impact on the consumer.
Speaker #1: That being said, we are pleased with performance. And yep, that's where we are.
Speaker #8: Okay, last question for me is just around paid ends of openings as we look at the back half of the year, the remaining restaurants to open.
Mark Smith: Okay. Last question for me is just around cadence of openings as we look at the H2, the remaining restaurants to open. Will these be more heavily? I know you've got 4 open, but should we look for the rest of those kind of in Q4? Or can you squeeze more in here in Q3 or even early in Q4?
Speaker #8: Will these be more heavily—I know you've got four open—but should we look for the rest of those kind of in Q4, or can you squeeze more in here in Q3 or even early in Q4?
Speaker #4: Well,近くオープンできるレストランはいくつか少なくあるんですけども、基本的にはQ4に差し掛かると思ってもらって結構だと思います。
Benjamin Porten: There are a number of stores that we're hoping to open up in
Speaker #1: There are a number of stores that we're hoping to open up in.
Speaker #4: Q3?
Speaker #1: Q3. But it's for modeling purposes, it's we think it's safe to assume a back half waiting relative Q3 relative to Q4.
Matt Curtis: Q3.
Benjamin Porten: Q3, but for modeling purposes, we think it's safe to assume a back half weighting in Q3 relative to Q4.
Speaker #8: Perfect. Thank you. Yes.
Mark Smith: Perfect. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Mark.
Benjamin Porten: Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Mark. The next question comes from the line of Jim Sanderson with North Coast Research. Please proceed.
Benjamin Porten: Thanks, Mark.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Jim Sanderson with Northcoast Research. Please proceed.
Speaker #9: Hey, thanks for the question, and Jeff, best of luck in your new opportunity. I wanted to go back to the seafood inflation and, more broadly, food costs.
Jim Sanderson: Hey, thanks for the question, and Jeff, best of luck in your new opportunity. I wanted to go back to seafood inflation and more broadly, food costs. Is there any concern that we're going to start seeing or hearing about fuel surcharges or incremental invoice impacts from aviation fuel increases or diesel fuel in the next couple of quarters?
Speaker #9: Is there any concern that we're going to start seeing or hearing about fuel surcharges or incremental invoice impacts from aviation fuel increases or diesel fuel in the next couple of quarters?
Speaker #1: Hey, Jim and Jeff. I’ve been really deep into this as I finish up here, really watching this. That is a possibility. Fuel surcharges are something that the delivery companies like to impose.
Jeff Uttz: Hey, Jim. It's Jeff. I've been really deep into this, as I finish up here at Corelle, watching this. That is a possibility. Fuel surcharges are something that the delivery companies like to impose. I did ask our supply chain team. We haven't seen a lot of it lately, just a handful. That is a possibility. It does happen, obviously, when fuel goes up. We push back on those. In my seat, I've had these before at other companies, and I don't just accept them. I push back and say, "Look, that's the cost of doing business. If you want to adjust your prices, go ahead." They typically don't. They will usually allow you to cross out those line items on the invoice. I've been pretty successful with that in the past.
Speaker #1: I did ask our supply chain team. We haven't seen a lot of it lately, just a handful. But that is a possibility. It does happen, obviously, when fuel goes up.
Speaker #1: We push back on those. And in my seat, I've had these before at other companies. And I don't just accept them. I push back and say, 'Look, that's a cost of doing business.'
Speaker #1: If you want to adjust your prices, go ahead. But they typically don't, and they will usually allow you to cross out those line items on the invoice.
Speaker #1: And I've been pretty successful with that in the past. That being said, as Jimmy mentioned earlier, there's just a lot of puts and takes in food costs right now with what's going on in the world.
Jeff Uttz: That being said, as Jimmy mentioned earlier, there's just a lot of puts and takes in food costs right now with what's going on in the world, and that's why we've kept our guidance at the 30%-ish number for the year. We think with all the negotiations, minus anything that's going on with fuel and delivery costs and all that, we remain pretty confident in that 30% number as of where we sit right now for the year.
Speaker #1: And that's why we've kept our guidance at the 30%-ish number for the year. And we think with all the negotiations, minus anything that's going on with fuel and delivery costs and all that, we remain pretty confident in that 30% number as to where we sit right now for the year.
Speaker #4: Weはやっぱり今現在の30%を維持しているってことはすごく他の個人のレストラン、寿司レストランと比べた時にすごい有利なものだと思っていますと。Q2以降、Q2でトラフィックポジティブになりましたけど、これ我々の言及している通り、4.5%のエフェクティブプライスっていうのは他の寿司レストランだったらとんでもなく低いと思っています。アベレージチェックにしたら1ドル超えてるだけですと。他のアメリカの個人レストランで1ドルだけのアベレージチェックのインクリースで済ませているレストランはないと思いますので、ますます今現在他のプロテインもめちゃくちゃ上がってる。あとそういったコストとかも乗っかってる現状を考えた時に、我々は次プライシング予定してませんと6月。ますますバリューのプロポーションっていうのは強まってくると確信していますと。なんでエコノミクスがどうであれ、我々はすごく進捗としてはすごくいい進捗が出てると思っています。バリューの部分で。はい。
Benjamin Porten: Hey, Jim. Just to add on to Jeff's comment, we're very, very proud that we've been able to keep our cost of goods sold at 30%, all things considering. When you look at our Q2 comps, half of that being driven by traffic. We see this as vindication of our strategies. The 4.5% effective pricing that we're running as of November translates to roughly $1 per person. We know that our direct competitors, the individually owned sushi restaurants, there's just no way that they're able to keep the doors open by charging just $1 extra per person. That value delta has become clearer and clearer to our guests. This dynamic isn't fun, but it works in our favor.
Speaker #1: Jeff's comment: We're very, very proud that we've been able to keep our cost of goods sold at 30%, all things considered. When you look at our Q2 comps, half of that being driven by traffic, we see this as vindication of our strategies.
Speaker #1: The four and a half percent effective pricing that we're running as of November translates to roughly a dollar per person. And we know that our direct competitors, the individually owned sushi restaurants, there's just no way that they're able to keep the doors open by charging just one extra dollar per person.
Speaker #1: And that value delta has become clearer and clearer to our guests. And so this dynamic isn't fun, but it works in our favor. And as incremental pressures arise, again, it won't be fun, but it will work in our
Benjamin Porten: As incremental pressures arise, again, it won't be fun, but it will work in our favor. We're really happy that as we see the year now, we feel that we have no need to take further price this year.
Speaker #4: あと現在我々今現在でも6月さらに追加で取る必要はない状態にいることをすごくハッピーだと思います。
Speaker #1: And we're really happy that we, as we see the year now, even though we feel that we've no need to take further prices here.
Speaker #9: Okay. And that assumes about four, four and a half percent for the fiscal year? For price?
Jim Sanderson: Okay. That assumes about 4%, 4.5% for the fiscal year for price?
Speaker #4: プレイヤーで言うと4%以下になると思います。
Benjamin Porten: It'll be a little bit below 4% on a full year basis.
Speaker #1: It'll be a little bit below 4% on a full-year basis.
Speaker #4: If we don’t increase in price.
Jim Sanderson: Last question. Yep. No? Last question from me. I think last year you reported about a 500 basis point negative impact because of wildfires and other issues. If we peel that off the 8.5, the comp you reported, is that a good run rate for where you think you are trending March, April today?
Speaker #9: Last question. Yep, last question for me. I think last year reported about a 500-basis-point negative impact because of wildfires and other issues.
Speaker #9: If we peel that off the 8.5, the comp you reported, is that a good run rate for where you think you are trending March, April, today?
Speaker #4: それは去年4500を受けたのは確かなんですけど、今年も実は受けてるんですよ、大きな。なんでオフセットとしては200、200、300ベーシスポイントぐらいのインパクトが触ったと思います。ウェザーで恵まれた部分があると思います。オフセットされて。
Speaker #1: Jim, unfortunately, we had weather as well this year. And so the comps are so good that it doesn't seem obvious, but we did have pretty significant winter weather that impacted our sales.
Benjamin Porten: Jim, unfortunately, we had weather as well this year. The comps are so good that it doesn't seem obvious, but we did have pretty significant winter weather that impacted our sales. The 4 to 500 basis point, that's not a 400 to 500 basis point tailwind this year. It's more like a 200 basis point tailwind.
Speaker #1: And so, the four to five hundred basis points—while that was, that's not a 400- to 500-basis-point tailwind this year, it's more like a 200-basis-point tailwind.
Speaker #9: Okay, okay. So again, maybe I can ask it one last time—how should we think about the performance in the back half relative to the guidance?
Jim Sanderson: Okay. Again, maybe I can ask you one last. How should we think about the performance in the H2 relative to the guidance? Low single digits, just kind of bridging that gap.
Speaker #9: Low single digits, just kind of bridging that gap.
Speaker #4: これは先ほどからずっとお話してます通り、クオーターでのガイダンス言わないってことですとか、あとこの前アップグレードした時にまた下げたりとかあるんで、あと今現在X3で何が起こってるかまた使った時なんで、通期でざっくりとモデストリーポリティクスっていうところだけをちょっとお知らせしたいなというふうに思ってます。
Benjamin Porten: We don't like to make it a practice of giving quarterly guidance. Just given all the moving parts, we feel it's especially not a good time to try to give quarterly guidance. We did provide a guidance update at the beginning of this call, and all of that incorporates everything that we've seen to date. To reiterate, we're happy with how Q3's performed so far.
Speaker #1: We don't like to make it a practice of giving quarterly guidance, and just given all the moving parts, we feel it's especially not a good time to try to give quarterly guidance.
Speaker #1: But we did provide a guidance update at the beginning of this call, and all that incorporates everything that we've seen to date.
Speaker #4: あと我々Q3のクオーターデューデートはハッピーだということを言いましたと。
Speaker #1: And to reiterate, we're happy with how Q3 has performed so far.
Speaker #9: Understood. All right. Thank you very much.
Jim Sanderson: Understood. All right. Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Jim. The next question comes from the line of George Kelly with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed.
Jon Tower: Thanks, Jim.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of George Kelly with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed.
Speaker #10: Hey, everyone. Thanks. First, Ben, in response to one of the earlier questions, you mentioned there being opportunity for tech enhancements around food quality and consistency.
George A. Kelly: Hey, everyone. Thanks. First, Ben, in response to one of the earlier questions, you mentioned there being opportunity for tech enhancements around food quality and consistency. I don't know how much you're going to want to say on today's call, but can you provide a little more detail just on where you think there could be opportunity there?
Speaker #10: I don't know how much you're going to want to say on today's call, but can you provide a little more detail just on where you think there could be opportunity there?
Speaker #4: I'm happy to answer this question, George. まず2つありまして、テクニックセンサーっていう出汁の温分量と、あと温度を毎回必ず均一に本当誰もがやっても間違いなくできるものを、そういったことのUSのサーティフィケーション、今取ろうとしてるってことと、あとシェアするやつ、これもちょっと人によってあぶりすぎたりあぶりやすかったりするんですけど、自動的にコンベアであぶり方を均一に、しかも少しレイバーのセービングになるかもしれない。この2つを取り込もうと今動いてます。ちょっと時間かかると思いますけど。
Benjamin Porten: I'm happy to answer this question, George. The two that are on the docket right now, one is managing our broth. We make all of our broth, all of our stock, from scratch every morning. During my training period, I was responsible for doing this, so this is near and dear to my heart. You make the broth in the morning, and if you're keeping it warm, it evaporates, and so it gets progressively more concentrated and bitter. We have this technology that we use in Japan that allows it to stay fresh all day long, and so we're really excited to bring that over, make sure that we have very consistent quality on what we see as one of the most important things about our restaurants, being our broth.
Speaker #1: So the two that are on the docket right now—one is managing our broth. And so we make all of our broth, all of our stock, from scratch every morning.
Speaker #1: During my training period, I was responsible for doing this, so this is near and dear to my heart. But you make the broth in the morning, and if you're keeping it warm, it evaporates.
Speaker #1: And so it gets progressively more concentrated and bitter. And so we have this technology that we use in Japan that allows it to stay fresh all day long.
Speaker #1: And so we're really excited to bring that over, make sure that we have very consistent quality on what we see as one of the most important things about our restaurants: being our broth.
Speaker #1: The other that we're working on is—so we have a sear station for the seared mayo salmon, for instance. We do that by hand right now, but we're working on automating that.
Benjamin Porten: The other that we're working on is, so we have a sear station for the Seared Mayo Salmon, for instance. We do that by hand right now, but we're working on automating that. That'll give us much greater consistency, probably a little bit in labor savings, but that's mostly a food quality effort.
Speaker #1: And so that'll give us much greater consistency—probably a little bit in labor savings, but that's mostly a food quality effort.
Speaker #10: Okay. Okay. Helpful, thank you. And then, two other quick ones. Litigation expense—what are your expectations for that in the coming quarters? Should it stay kind of consistent with what you just did?
George A. Kelly: Okay. Helpful. Thank you. Two other quick ones. Litigation expense, what are your expectations for that in the coming quarters? Should it stay consistent with what you just did? I think it was $1.2 in the quarter. Second question on labor. I may have missed it, but did you provide more specific, like an updated guide for the year on labor? That's all I had. Thank you.
Speaker #10: I think it was 1.2 in the quarter. And then, second question on labor. I may have missed it, but did you provide a more specific and updated guide for the year on labor?
Speaker #10: And that's all I had. Thank you.
Speaker #4: I'll give you a minute.
Speaker #1: Sorry. Thank you. I'll address the litigation one, George, and then Jimmy can jump into the labor side. On the litigation—I mean, unfortunately, this is just a negative byproduct of doing business in California.
Jeff Uttz: Sorry. Thank you. I'll address the litigation one, George, and then Jimmy can jump into the labor side. On the litigation, unfortunately, this is just a negative by-product of doing business in California. Any of the restaurant companies that you follow or anybody else follows, you get sued in California for just wage and hour stuff, regardless of how buttoned up your system is. What are my expectations? My expectations are to never be sued, because I think we're very buttoned up. It just happens in California, and it's an unfortunate thing. I would like to tell you that they're done, but we just don't know.
Speaker #1: And any of the restaurant companies that you follow, or anybody else follows, you get sued in California for just wage and hour stuff regardless of how buttoned-up your system is.
Speaker #1: So, what are my expectations? My expectations are to never be sued, because I think we're very buttoned up. But it just happens in California, and it's an unfortunate thing.
Speaker #1: So I would like to tell you that they're done, but we just don't know. But I will assure you that our employment—the practices that we employ in terms of employment and wage and hour law—are some of the best that I've ever seen.
Jeff Uttz: I will assure you that our employment, the practices that we employ in terms of employment and wage and hour law are some of the best that I've ever seen, but you just can't get away from it in California. That's where I'd leave it. I'm hopeful that we won't see any more, but you just never know.
Speaker #1: But you just can't get away from it in California, so that's where I'd leave it. I'm hopeful that we won't see any more, but you just never know.
Speaker #4: あとレイバーコストに関してのとこですけども、400ベーシスポイントっていうのはやっぱり去年のフェイバラブルな出来事に助けられた部分があるんで、Q3以降も400ベーシスポイントっていうのは期待できないんですけど、少なくともQ3以降ね、150ベーシスポイントとかね、そういったレベルに関してはイヤーオーバーイヤーで改善できるんじゃないかなと、少なくとも思ってます。はい。
Speaker #1: Hey, George. As it relates to labor, we're not expecting 400 basis points in leverage in the coming quarters. There are a lot of idiosyncrasies to Q2 that led to that 400 basis points.
Benjamin Porten: Hey, George. As it relates to labor, we're not expecting 400 basis points in leverage in the coming quarters. There were a lot of idiosyncrasies to Q2 that led to that 400 basis point. We do think that for Q3 and Q4, we can improve labor year over year by about 150 basis points. We're looking forward to giving you guys updates on that.
Speaker #1: But we do think that, for Q3 and Q4, we can improve labor year-over-year by about 150 basis points. And so we're looking forward to giving you guys updates on that.
Speaker #10: Okay, thanks. And Jeff, it's been a pleasure. All the best to you.
George A. Kelly: Okay, thanks. Jeff, it's been a pleasure. All the best to you.
Speaker #1: Thank you, George. Appreciate it. The next question comes from the line of Matt Curtis with DA Davidson. Please proceed.
Jeff Uttz: Thank you, George. Appreciate it.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Matt Curtis with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed.
Speaker #11: Hi, thanks. I just had another one on the reservation system. Jimmy, in your comments, I think you mentioned that it was driving a much higher visitation rate.
Matt Curtis: Hi, thanks. I just had another one on the reservation system. Jim, in your comments, I think you mentioned that it was driving a much higher visitation rate. Just wondering if you've seen any sales lift from increased usage of the reservation system. I think you guys previously said you've not been explicitly baking in any sales upside from this, and just wanted to see if this is still the case or not.
Speaker #11: So just wondering if you've seen any sales lift from increased usage of the reservation system. I mean, I think you guys previously said you've not been explicitly baking in any sales upside from this.
Speaker #11: And just wanted to see if this is still the case or not.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Our internal estimate is that the reservation system is contributing about 1%. And so we're very pleased, especially given the headcount reduction that's already delivered.
Hajime Uba: Yeah. Our internal estimate is that the reservation system has contributed about 1%, and so we're very pleased, especially given the headcount reduction it's already delivered.
Speaker #11: Okay, great. And one last one for me. I think you had a gap in your IP collaborations for the first two weeks of March.
Matt Curtis: Okay, great. One last one for me. I think you had a gap in your IP collaborations for the first two weeks of March due to some inspection issues, I believe it was. Could you maybe just provide a little more detail around this and whether you think it's more of a one-off or something that could potentially reoccur?
Speaker #11: Due to some inspection issues, I believe it was—could you maybe just provide a little more detail around this, and whether you think it's more of a one-off or something that could potentially reoccur?
Speaker #1: So this has actually never happened before in our history of being in the United States, and so we really had no reason to expect it.
Hajime Uba: This has actually never happened before in our history of being in the United States, and so we really had no reason to expect it. We don't expect it to happen again. We're not sure why it happened this time, but we think it's one-off. While we weren't happy that this happened, we don't really see it as a meaningful headwind, just given that the overwhelming upside and response opportunity for the IP collaborations tends to be the first two weeks. It's not like we lost those first two weeks. We just pushed them back by two weeks, and so if we lost anything, it would have been the last two weeks of the campaign, which pale in comparison to the first two weeks. It's unfortunate, but it's not as much of a headwind as it might sound like. To reiterate, we're happy with Q3.
Speaker #1: We don't expect it to happen again. We're not sure why it happened this time, but we think it's a one-off.
Speaker #4: あとまず今回の件なんですけど、インパクトは非常に限定的だと思ってます。っていうのもどのIPコラボレーションでも基本的に開始した最初の2週間、ものすごく売上の効果があって、逆に言ったら最後の2週間のインパクトっていうのはほぼ無視できるレベルになってくるんで、今回の最初の2週間がずれても最後の最後の効果のところが先に行きたいわけで、オーバーオールのこの45日間の売上全体っていうのは変わってないと思いますし、負担とかお話ししてますけど、Q3我々今ところクオーターズで今ハッピーですから、特に懸念にはなってないです。はい。
Speaker #1: So, while we weren't happy Fed this happened, we don't really see it as a meaningful headwind, just given that the overwhelming upside and response opportunity for the IP collaborations tends to be the first two weeks.
Speaker #1: And so it's not like we lost those first two weeks; we just pushed them back by two weeks. And so, if we lost anything, it would have been the last two weeks of the campaign, which pale in comparison to the first two weeks.
Speaker #1: And so, it's unfortunate, but it's not as much of a headwind as it might sound like. And to reiterate, we're happy with Q3.
Speaker #10: Okay, sounds good. Thanks very much, and best of luck, Jeff.
Matt Curtis: Okay. Sounds good. Thanks very much, and best of luck, Jeff.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Thanks, Matt. The next question comes from the line of John Tower with Citi. Please proceed.
Benjamin Porten: Thank you.
Operator: Thanks, Matt. The next question comes from the line of Jon Tower with Citi. Please proceed.
Speaker #12: Great, thanks for taking the question. I'm just curious—I noticed that you guys, during the quarter, did a sushi lunch combo. I think it was $13.99, and it wasn't something that's been seen before, but I think it's something you've done in the past.
Jon Tower: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Just curious, I noticed that you guys during the quarter did a sushi lunch combo, I think it was $13.99, and it wasn't something that I'd seen before, but I think it's something you've done in the past, just not in recent memory. So I'm curious, one, how consumers responded to it. Two, did it end up impacting your mix at all or traffic during that lunch period? Is this also a sign of something that you feel comfortable with using again in the future?
Speaker #12: Just not in recent memory, so I'm curious—one, how consumers responded to it. Two, did it end up impacting your mix at all, or traffic during that lunch period?
Speaker #12: And is this also a sign of something that you feel comfortable with using again in the future?
Speaker #4: I feel thatこれに関しては特にシーズナリティを意識してやってます。特にうどんとかラーメンとハンドルとかのコンビなんで、この冬のシーズンに毎回やるってことで、去年も同じことやってて、一定の効果あると思うんで、これからも同じシーズンでやっていくと思います。ただ夏場は違うキャンプにやると思います。
Speaker #1: So, this is something that we've done every winter. We usually do some sort of combo with our soups and our noodle dishes. We think they're really good, and we want to give people opportunities to, or reasons to, try them.
Benjamin Porten: This is something that we've done every winter. We usually do some sort of combo with our soups and our noodle dishes. We think they're really good, and we want to give people opportunities to or reasons to try them. That's something that we've done every year. It has an impact, but it's not really a big needle mover. We'll probably do something similar in the summer as well, not for soups, but we don't expect it to be a big needle mover. John, it's great to see how successful the IPs have been working. We don't want to be entirely reliant on IPs, and so to that end, we've been working on a lot of LTOs, even going above and beyond the current reserve.
Speaker #1: And so that's something that we've done every year. It has an impact, but it's not really a big needle mover. We'll probably do something similar in the summer as well, not for soups, but we don't expect it to be a big needle mover.
Speaker #4: あともう一つ、これも最近のコンファレンスで言ってるんですけど、我々IPコラボレーションが成功しても、やっぱり重要さを再認識してる一方、やっぱりフードのプロモーションもやっぱりしっかり寿司レストランとしてやっていくって考えてるんで、クラリザーブをやること以外にも、例えば3月でしたら和牛を目指しキャンペーンですとか、あと4月の何かフードリレーテッドの小さなキャンペーン考えてるんで、そういったフード関連のプロモーションの回数ですとか質とかもどんどん改善していく、訂正を緩めるつもりはないです。
Speaker #1: And John, it's really great to see how successful the IPs have been working. But we don't want to be entirely reliant on IPs. And so to that end, we've been working on a lot—we've been working on a lot of LTOs, even going above and beyond the current reserve.
Speaker #1: For instance, in March, we had a campaign called Wagyu of the Seas. It was very high-quality toro. And yeah, we've got a pretty big calendar in terms of reasons to come in.
Benjamin Porten: For instance, in March, we had a campaign called Wagyu of the Seas. It was very high quality toro. Yeah, we've got a pretty good calendar in terms of reasons to come in.
Speaker #12: Got it. Thank you, I appreciate that. And I’ve got to get to the stores more frequently to make sure I can understand what’s new and what’s not.
Jon Tower: Got it. Thank you. I appreciate that. I got to get to the stores more frequently to make sure I can understand what's new and what's not. I guess, you had mentioned earlier, obviously, that this year you've been pretty disciplined on pricing and that the competitive set is likely going to have to pass along a lot more pricing than what you guys are planning to do for the year. One, have you seen that happen anecdotally based on your own work that you've done? Then two, have you seen any signals that because of the price increases or potential price increases from the competitive set, that consumers are pushing back and/or there's risk that these other stores might have to close their doors because traffic is just not showing up the way that it should?
Speaker #12: But I guess you had mentioned earlier, obviously, that this year you've been pretty disciplined on pricing, and that the competitive set is likely going to have to pass along a lot more pricing than what you guys are going to—what you guys are planning to do for the year.
Speaker #12: One, have you seen that happen anecdotally based on your own work that you've done? And then, two, have you seen any signals that, because of the price increases or potential price increases from the competitive set, consumers are pushing back and/or there's risk that these other chains, these other stores, might have to close their doors because traffic is just not showing up the way that it should?
Speaker #4: It's possible. I mean, this is a dynamic that's played out twice before—at least during my time at the company—once during the pandemic and once during the post-pandemic supply chain issues. It's always been a traffic boon to us.
Benjamin Porten: It's possible. This is a dynamic that's played out twice before, at least with my time at the company, once during the pandemic and once during the post-pandemic supply chain issues. It's always been a traffic boon to us. The reason for this interpretation would really be, we took 3.5% price on November, but our traffic accelerated, and so we don't think there'd be a reason for that if it weren't clear that the value was amazing. Anecdotally, yes, we are seeing it. You'll be able to confirm the same thing just by looking at Yelp menus and going back historically and seeing their current menus, and I think you might be surprised.
Speaker #4: The reason that we are interpreting—the reason that for this interpretation would really be, we took a 3.5% price in November, but our traffic accelerated.
Speaker #4: And so we don't think there'd be a reason for that if it weren't clear that the value was amazing. And, anecdotally, yes, we are seeing it.
Speaker #4: You'll be able to confirm the same thing just by looking at Yelp menus and going back historically and seeing their current menus. And I think you might be surprised.
Speaker #12: Got it. And are you guys highlighting that in any of this social or digital marketing? How can you communicate that to guests?
Jon Tower: Got it. Are you guys highlighting that in any of the social or digital marketing? How can you communicate that to guests without necessarily saying-
Speaker #4: That's a tricky message. Everybody's raising price but us. It's not a good slogan. ですけど、結局そういったこと言わずに他のレストランと我々の価格をコンペアしてもらうために、クラには来てないけれども他の近場のレストランをサーチした人でターゲットするマーケティングを多分去年の年末ぐらいから始めてるんで、ちょっとやっぱりクオンティファイするの難しいけども、やっぱりそういったのも効果出てきてるかもしれないなというふうに思ってます。やっぱりある特定のところでのコンプセールとかすごい調子良かったりするんで、そういうのをコンピューターが高値、値段高いところでのそういったターゲットマーケティングっていうのはうまくできるのかもしれないなと思ってます。
Benjamin Porten: That's a tricky message. "Everybody's raising prices but us" is not a good slogan. One thing that we do is target marketing, especially if we're able to see that the competitive set in that local market has taken prices pretty aggressively. We can spend incremental advertising dollars there just to get eyeballs, and that's worked pretty well. Another tool, we just talked about the Wagyu of the Seas, but that makes it easier for guests to make a direct comparison with higher-end sushi as well. If they're not impressed by the salmon, getting the Bluefin Toro for $4 is impressive, and so it serves dual purposes, these LTOs.
Speaker #1: One thing that we do do is target marketing, especially if we're able to see that the competitive set in that local market has taken price pretty aggressively.
Speaker #1: We can spend incremental advertising dollars there just to get eyeballs, and that’s always worked pretty well. Another tool—we just talked about the Wagyu of the Seas—but that makes it easier for guests to make a direct comparison with higher-end sushi as well.
Speaker #1: And if they're not impressed by the salmon, getting the bluefin toro for $4 is impressive. And so it serves a dual purpose, these LTOs.
Speaker #12: Got it. Thanks for taking the questions.
Jon Tower: Got it. Thanks for taking the questions.
Benjamin Porten: Thanks, Sean.
Speaker #4: Thanks, John.
Speaker #1: Thank you. This concludes today's question-and-answer session, and this will also conclude the conference as well. You may all now disconnect your lines at this time.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session, and this will also conclude the conference as well. You may all now disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation. Have a great day, everyone.