Q1 2026 Steel Dynamics Inc Earnings Call
Operator 2: Good day, and welcome to the Steel Dynamics Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After management's remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised this call is being recorded today, 21 April 2026, and your participation implies consent to our recording this call. If you do not agree to these terms, please disconnect. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to David Lipschitz, Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Steel Dynamics Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After management's remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised this call is being recorded today, 21 April 2026, and your participation implies consent to our recording this call. If you do not agree to these terms, please disconnect. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to David Lipschitz, Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: After management's remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised this call is being recorded today, April 21, 2026.
Speaker #3: And your participation implies consent to our recording this call. If you do not agree to these terms, please disconnect. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to David Lipschitz, Director, Investor Relations.
Speaker #3: Please go ahead. Thank you, Tom. Good morning. And welcome to STEEL DYNAMICS first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded.
David Lipschitz: Thank you, Tom. Good morning, and welcome to Steel Dynamics' Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and will be available on our website for replay later today. Leading today's call are Mark Millett, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Steel Dynamics, Teresa Wagler, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Barry Schneider, President and Chief Operating Officer. The other members of our senior leadership team are joining us on the call individually. Some of today's statements, which speak only as of this date, may be forward-looking and predictive, typically preceded by believe, expect, anticipate, or words of similar meaning. They are intended to be protected by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 should actual results turn out differently.
David Lipschitz: Thank you, Tom. Good morning, and welcome to Steel Dynamics' Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and will be available on our website for replay later today. Leading today's call are Mark Millett, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Steel Dynamics, Teresa Wagler, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Barry Schneider, President and Chief Operating Officer.
Speaker #3: And we'll be available on our website for replay later today. Leading today's call are Mark Millett, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Steel Dynamics.
Speaker #3: Theresa Wagler, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Barry Schneider, President and Chief Operating Officer. The other members of our senior leadership team are joining us on the call individually.
David Lipschitz: The other members of our senior leadership team are joining us on the call individually. Some of today's statements, which speak only as of this date, may be forward-looking and predictive, typically preceded by believe, expect, anticipate, or words of similar meaning. They are intended to be protected by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 should actual results turn out differently.
Speaker #3: Some of today's statements, which speak only as of this date, may be forward-looking and predictive. Typically preceded by belief, expect, anticipate, or words of similar meaning.
Speaker #3: They are intended to be protected by the private securities litigation reform act of 1995, should actually results turn out differently. Such statements involve risk and uncertainties related to integrating or starting up new assets, the aluminum industry, the use of estimates and assumptions in connection with anticipated project returns, and our STEEL metals recycling, fabrication, and aluminum businesses, as well as to general business and economic conditions.
David Lipschitz: Such statements involve risk and uncertainties related to integrating or starting up new assets, the aluminum industry, the use of estimates and assumptions in connection with anticipated project returns in our steel, metals recycling, fabrication, and aluminum businesses, as well as to general business and economic conditions. Examples of these are described in the related press release as well as in our annually filed SEC Form 10-K under the headings Forward-Looking Statements and Risk Factors, found on the internet at www.sec.gov, and if applicable, in any later SEC Form 10-Q. You'll also find any reference non-GAAP financial measures reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the press release issued yesterday entitled Steel Dynamics Reports Q1 2026 Results. Now please turn the call over to Mark.
David Lipschitz: Such statements involve risk and uncertainties related to integrating or starting up new assets, the aluminum industry, the use of estimates and assumptions in connection with anticipated project returns in our steel, metals recycling, fabrication, and aluminum businesses, as well as to general business and economic conditions. Examples of these are described in the related press release as well as in our annually filed SEC Form 10-K under the headings Forward-Looking Statements and Risk Factors, found on the internet at www.sec.gov, and if applicable, in any later SEC Form 10-Q.
Speaker #3: Examples of these are described in the related press release, as well as in our annually filed SEC Form 10-K under the headings Forward-Looking Statements and Risk Factors.
Speaker #3: Found on the internet at www.sec.gov. And applicable in any later SEC Form 10-Q. You also find any reference non-GAAP financial measures reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the press release issued yesterday entitled STEEL DYNAMICS Reports first quarter 2026 results.
David Lipschitz: You'll also find any reference non-GAAP financial measures reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the press release issued yesterday entitled Steel Dynamics Reports Q1 2026 Results. Now please turn the call over to Mark Millett.
Speaker #3: Now, please return the call over to Mark. Super. Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for sharing your time this morning for our first quarter '26 earnings call.
Mark D. Millett: Super. Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for sharing your time this morning for our Q1 2026 earnings call. As reported, our teams achieved a very strong first-quarter financial and operational performance. Several highlights for the quarter included record quarterly steel shipments of 3.6 million tons. We saw significant progress within our aluminum operations. It really is exciting to see our vision coming to life there. We had adjusted EBITDA of $700 million. Again, most importantly, our teams continue to emphasize and keep safety top of mind. We have an amazing group of people that achieve best-in-class performance each and every day, and incredibly proud of the whole team. Our world-class safety culture continues to evolve, and our team's dedication to our take control of safety philosophy is extraordinary.
Mark Millett: Super. Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for sharing your time this morning for our Q1 2026 earnings call. As reported, our teams achieved a very strong Q1 financial and operational performance. Several highlights for the quarter included record quarterly steel shipments of 3.6 million tons. We saw significant progress within our aluminum operations.
Speaker #3: As reported, our teams achieved a very strong first quarter financial and operational performance. Several highlights for the quarter included record quarterly STEEL shipments of $3.6 million tons.
Speaker #3: We saw significant progress within our aluminum operations it really is exciting to see our vision come into life there. We had adjusted EBITDA of $700 million.
Mark Millett: It really is exciting to see our vision coming to life there. We had adjusted EBITDA of $700 million. Again, most importantly, our teams continue to emphasize and keep safety top of mind. We have an amazing group of people that achieve best-in-class performance each and every day, and incredibly proud of the whole team. Our world-class safety culture continues to evolve, and our team's dedication to our take control of safety philosophy is extraordinary.
Speaker #3: And again, most importantly, our teams continue to emphasize and keep safety top of mind. We have an amazing group of people that achieves best-in-class performance each and every day.
Speaker #3: Incredibly proud of them. The whole team. Our world-class safety culture continues to evolve and our team's dedication to our take control of safety philosophy is extraordinary.
Speaker #3: Added some 135 SDI locations, 94% operated in the first quarter without one lost-time injury. I'm continually inspired by the commitment they have for one another.
Mark D. Millett: Out of some 135 SDI locations, 94% operated in Q1 without one lost time injury. I'm continually inspired by the commitment they have for one another. They consider themselves family and challenge the status quo each day. As always, we will never be satisfied until we achieve a zero-incident environment. Before I continue, I'd like to shift to Teresa and Barry for their commentary. Teresa?
Mark Millett: Out of some 135 SDI locations, 94% operated in Q1 without one lost time injury. I'm continually inspired by the commitment they have for one another. They consider themselves family and challenge the status quo each day. As always, we will never be satisfied until we achieve a zero-incident environment. Before I continue, I'd like to shift to Theresa and Barry for their commentary. Teresa?
Speaker #3: They consider themselves family and challenge the status quo each day. But as always, we will never be satisfied until we achieve zero incident environment.
Speaker #3: But before I continue, I'd like to shift to Theresa and Barry for their commentary. Theresa? Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning.
Theresa Wagler: Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning. For Q1 2026, our net income was $403 million or $2.78 per diluted share, with adjusted EBITDA of $700 million.
Theresa Wagler: Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning. For Q1 2026, our net income was $403 million or $2.78 per diluted share, with adjusted EBITDA of $700 million. Q1 2026 revenues were $5.2 billion and operating income was $538 million. Higher than sequential Q4 results, driven by higher realized steel pricing and record steel volumes. Our steel operations generated operating income of $557 million in Q1, a 73% sequential increase, as average selling prices per ton increased $86.
Speaker #3: For the first quarter 2026, our net income was $403 million, or $2.78 per diluted share, with adjusted EBITDA of $700 million. First quarter 2026 revenues were $5.2 billion.
Theresa Wagler: Q1 2026 revenues were $5.2 billion and operating income was $538 million. Higher than sequential Q4 results, driven by higher realized steel pricing and record steel volumes. Our steel operations generated operating income of $557 million in Q1, a 73% sequential increase, as average selling prices per ton increased $86. From an index perspective, average HRC pricing increased from an average of $850 per ton in Q4 to $975 per ton in Q1. Today, it's over $1,000. Barry will talk more about the markets in a moment. Value-added spreads to HRC have also improved. As the largest coater in North America, this will especially be helpful to our forward performance. As a quick reminder, approximately 75% to 80% of our flat-rolled steel business is linked to lagging price contracts, in aggregate, generally lagging two months.
Speaker #3: And operating income was $538 million. Higher than sequential fourth quarter results driven by higher realized STEEL pricing and record STEEL volumes. Our STEEL operations generated operating income of $557 million in the first quarter.
Speaker #3: A 73% sequential increase as average selling prices per ton increased $86. From an index perspective, average HRC pricing increased from an average of $850 per ton in the fourth quarter.
Theresa Wagler: From an index perspective, average HRC pricing increased from an average of $850 per ton in Q4 to $975 per ton in Q1 today. Today, it's over $1,000. Barry will talk more about the markets in a moment. Value-added spreads to HRC have also improved. As the largest coater in North America, this will especially be helpful to our forward performance. As a quick reminder, approximately 75-80% of our flat-rolled steel business is linked to lagging price contracts, in aggregate, generally lagging two months.
Speaker #3: To $975 per ton in the first quarter today. Excuse me, in the first quarter. Today it's over $1,000. Barry will talk more about the markets in a moment.
Speaker #3: Value-added spreads to HRC have also improved. As the largest coder in North America, this will especially be helpful to our forward performance. As a quick reminder, approximately 75% to 80% of our flat-rolled steel business is linked to lagging-priced contracts.
Speaker #3: In aggregate, generally lagging two months. So the most recent flat-rolled STEEL price increases will positively impact our second quarter results. Additionally, demand and related pricing for our long product STEEL is strong with pricing also continuing to improve.
Theresa Wagler: The most recent flat-rolled steel price increases will positively impact our Q2 results. Additionally, demand and related pricing for our long product steel is strong, with pricing also continuing to improve. From Metals Recycling perspective, Q1 2026 operating income was $47 million, or 155% higher than sequential earnings, based on higher pricing for both ferrous and non-ferrous scrap. Shipments were modestly lower in the first quarter due to inclement weather for several weeks in January and February. Scrap flows are strong again, with expectations for seasonally increased shipments in Q2 and Q3, in addition to increases related to further support of our aluminum operations. Our Steel Fabrication team achieved first quarter operating income of $90 million, aligned with Q4 results, as the benefit from higher shipments was offset by the increase in steel input prices.
Theresa Wagler: The most recent flat-rolled steel price increases will positively impact our Q2 results. Additionally, demand and related pricing for our long product steel is strong, with pricing also continuing to improve. From Metals Recycling perspective, Q1 2026 operating income was $47 million, or 155% higher than sequential earnings, based on higher pricing for both ferrous and non-ferrous scrap. Shipments were modestly lower in the Q1 due to inclement weather for several weeks in January and February.
Speaker #3: From a metals recycling perspective, first quarter 2026 operating income was $47 million. Or $155% higher than sequential earnings. Based on higher pricing for both ferrous and non-ferrous scrap.
Speaker #3: Shipments were modestly lower in the first quarter due to inclement weather for several weeks in January and February. Scrap flows are strong again with expectations for seasonally increased shipments in the second and third quarters.
Theresa Wagler: Scrap flows are strong again, with expectations for seasonally increased shipments in Q2 and Q3, in addition to increases related to further support of our aluminum operations. Our Steel Fabrication team achieved first quarter operating income of $90 million, aligned with Q4 results, as the benefit from higher shipments was offset by the increase in steel input prices.
Speaker #3: In addition to increases related to further support of our aluminum operations, our steel fabrication team achieved first quarter operating income of $90 million. This was aligned with fourth quarter results, as the benefit from higher shipments was offset by the increase in steel input prices.
Speaker #3: Our fabrication business generally maintains between 10 to 12 weeks of STEEL inventory, which can tighten margins in a rising STEEL price environment. Our STEEL joist and deck demand remains solid, evidenced by very strong order activity.
Theresa Wagler: Our fabrication business generally maintains between 10 to 12 weeks of steel inventory, which can tighten margins in a rising steel price environment. Our steel joist and deck demand remains solid, evidenced by very strong order activity, with March representing the current high point. We were with the aluminum management team last week and things are going incredibly well. That said, a quick reminder that we are still constructing and commissioning while we are in operational startup. Mark will provide specifics in a moment. As for the related Q1 financial impact, earnings for aluminum were lower than we originally expected, with an operating loss of $65 million. Operating costs were significantly higher in January as the team experienced normal startup issues, necessitating a temporary pause in operations and a write-down of some inventory.
Theresa Wagler: Our fabrication business generally maintains between 10 to 12 weeks of steel inventory, which can tighten margins in a rising steel price environment. Our steel joist and deck demand remains solid, evidenced by very strong order activity, with March representing the current high point. We were with the aluminum management team last week and things are going incredibly well. That said, a quick reminder that we are still constructing and commissioning while we are in operational startup.
Speaker #3: With March representing the current high point, we were with the aluminum management team last week, and things are going incredibly well. That said, a quick reminder that we are still constructing and commissioning while we are in operational startup.
Speaker #3: Mark will provide specifics in a moment. As for the related first quarter financial impact, earnings for aluminum were lower than we originally expected, with an operating loss of $80—or sorry, an operating loss of $65 million.
Theresa Wagler: Mark will provide specifics in a moment. As for the related Q1 financial impact, earnings for aluminum were lower than we originally expected, with an operating loss of $65 million. Operating costs were significantly higher in January as the team experienced normal startup issues, necessitating a temporary pause in operations and a write-down of some inventory.
Speaker #3: Operating costs were significantly higher in January, as the team experienced normal startup issues necessitating a temporary pause in operations and a write-down of some inventory.
Speaker #3: Things were resolved quickly and are operating smoothly now, with increasing volumes already being realized. We generated cash flow from operations of $148 million in the first quarter.
Theresa Wagler: Things were resolved quickly and are operating smoothly now, with increasing volumes already being realized. We generated cash flow from operations of $148 million in Q1. Cash was reduced by $120 million related to our annual company-wide retirement profit-sharing funding and an additional $150 million related to working capital growth, specifically associated with our new aluminum investment. We also experienced significant working capital growth related to increased pricing across our businesses, increasing both customer accounts and inventory values. Our cash generation is consistently strong based on differentiated circular business model and highly variable low-cost structure. At the end of the quarter, we had liquidity of $2 billion, comprised of cash and investments of $800 million and our fully available unsecured revolver of $1.2 billion. During Q1, we invested $138 million in capital investments.
Theresa Wagler: Things were resolved quickly and are operating smoothly now, with increasing volumes already being realized. We generated cash flow from operations of $148 million in Q1. Cash was reduced by $120 million related to our annual company-wide retirement profit-sharing funding and an additional $150 million related to working capital growth, specifically associated with our new aluminum investment.
Speaker #3: Cash was reduced by $120 million related to our annual company-wide retirement profit-sharing funding and an additional $150 million related to working capital growth specifically associated with our new aluminum investments.
Speaker #3: We also experienced significant working capital growth related to increased pricing across our businesses, increasing both customer accounts and inventory values. Our cash generation is consistently strong based on our differentiated circular business model and highly variable, low-cost structure.
Theresa Wagler: We also experienced significant working capital growth related to increased pricing across our businesses, increasing both customer accounts and inventory values. Our cash generation is consistently strong based on differentiated circular business model and highly variable low-cost structure. At the end of the quarter, we had liquidity of $2 billion, comprised of cash and investments of $800 million and our fully available unsecured revolver of $1.2 billion. During Q1, we invested $138 million in capital investments.
Speaker #3: At the end of the quarter, we had liquidity of $2 billion, comprised of cash and investments of $800 million, and our fully available unsecured revolver of $1.2 billion.
Speaker #3: During the first quarter, we invested $138 million in capital investments. We believe total investments for the entirety of 2026 will be in the range of $600 million.
Theresa Wagler: We believe total investments for the entirety of 2026 will be in the range of $600 million. In Q1, we increased our cash dividend by 6% and repurchased $115 million of our common stock, with $687 million remaining authorized at the end of March. These actions reflect the strength of our capital foundation, consistently strong cash flow generation, and our continued confidence in our future. Our capital allocation strategy prioritizes high return growth with shareholder distributions comprised of a base positive dividend profile that is complemented with a variable share repurchase program, while we remain dedicated to maintaining our investment-grade credit designation. Our free cash flow profile was fundamentally changed over the last number of years from an annual average of $540 million from 2011 to 2015, to $2.4 billion for the most recent five-year period.
Theresa Wagler: We believe total investments for the entirety of 2026 will be in the range of $600 million. In Q1, we increased our cash dividend by 6% and repurchased $115 million of our common stock, with $687 million remaining authorized at the end of March. These actions reflect the strength of our capital foundation, consistently strong cash flow generation, and our continued confidence in our future.
Speaker #3: In the first quarter, we increased our cash dividend by 6% and repurchased $115 With $687 million remaining authorized at the end of March. These actions reflect the strength of our capital foundation and consistently strong cash flow generation and our continued confidence in our future.
Speaker #3: Our capital allocation strategy prioritizes high-return growth, with shareholder distributions comprised of a base positive dividend profile. That is complemented with a variable share repurchase program.
Theresa Wagler: Our capital allocation strategy prioritizes high return growth with shareholder distributions comprised of a base positive dividend profile that is complemented with a variable share repurchase program, while we remain dedicated to maintaining our investment-grade credit designation. Our free cash flow profile was fundamentally changed over the last number of years from an annual average of $540 million from 2011 to 2015, to $2.4 billion for the most recent five-year period.
Speaker #3: While we remain dedicated to maintaining our investment-grade credit designation, our free cash flow profile was fundamentally changed over the last number of years—from an annual average of $540 million from 2011 to 2015 to $2.4 billion.
Speaker #3: For the most recent five-year period, and if you exclude our growth investments related to our Texas steel mill and our new aluminum investment, the average is $3.2 billion.
Theresa Wagler: If you exclude our growth investments related to our Texas steel mill and our new aluminum investment, the average is $3.2 billion per year. There's more coming. We've invested over $5 billion in three primary organic growth investments, including our Texas mill, our value-added flat roll coating lines, and our aluminum investments. These projects have an estimated through-cycle annual EBITDA of approximately $1.4 billion. We've placed ourselves in a position of strength to have a sustainable capital foundation that provides the opportunity for meaningful strategic growth and strong shareholder returns while maintaining our investment-grade metrics. I really want to give a shout-out also to our Biocarbon team. Last week, we did something that I think probably hasn't been done anywhere else in the world. We had, instead of a ribbon-cutting ceremony, we had a log-cutting ceremony. Kudos to that team. That's doing very well as well.
Theresa Wagler: If you exclude our growth investments related to our Texas steel mill and our new aluminum investment, the average is $3.2 billion per year. There's more coming. We've invested over $5 billion in three primary organic growth investments, including our Texas mill, our value-added flat roll coating lines, and our aluminum investments. These projects have an estimated through-cycle annual EBITDA of approximately $1.4 billion.
Speaker #3: Per year. And there's more coming. We've invested over $5 billion in three primary organic growth investments, including our Texas mill, our value-added flat-roll coating lines, and our aluminum investments.
Speaker #3: These projects have an estimated through-cycle annual EBITDA of approximately $1.4 billion. We've placed ourselves in a position of strength to have a sustainable capital foundation that provides the opportunity for meaningful strategic growth and strong shareholder returns, while maintaining our investment-grade metrics.
Theresa Wagler: We've placed ourselves in a position of strength to have a sustainable capital foundation that provides the opportunity for meaningful strategic growth and strong shareholder returns while maintaining our investment-grade metrics. I really want to give a shout-out also to our Biocarbon team. Last week, we did something that I think probably hasn't been done anywhere else in the world. We had, instead of a ribbon-cutting ceremony, we had a log-cutting ceremony. Kudos to that team. That's doing very well as well. Barry?
Speaker #3: And I really want to give a shout-out also to our biocarbon team. Last week, we did something that I think probably hasn't been done anywhere else in the world.
Speaker #3: We had, instead of a ribbon-cutting ceremony, a log-cutting ceremony. So kudos to that team that's doing very well as well. So, Barry?
Theresa Wagler: Barry?
Speaker #1: Thank you, Theresa. Our steel fabrication operations performed well in the first quarter of 2026, delivering strong earnings. Steel joist and deck order backlog was solid at quarter-end.
Barry T. Schneider: Thank you, Teresa. Our steel fabrication operations performed well in Q1 2026, delivering strong earnings. Steel joists and deck order backlog was solid at quarter end, with December through March representing some of the strongest order entry we have seen in the past 18 months. This backlog extends into Q4 2026. We continue to have high expectations for the business this year due to positive customer sentiment and quoting activity, continued manufacturing onshoring, and public funding for infrastructure and other fixed asset investment programs. The uplift from this macro environment could be considerable. Our steel fabrication platform provides meaningful volume support for our steel mills, particularly critical in softer demand environments, allowing us to operate at higher through-cycle utilization rates than our peers. This also helps mitigate the financial risks associated with lower steel prices.
Barry Schneider: Thank you, Teresa. Our steel fabrication operations performed well in Q1 2026, delivering strong earnings. Steel joists and deck order backlog was solid at quarter end, with December through March representing some of the strongest order entry we have seen in the past 18 months. This backlog extends into Q4 2026. We continue to have high expectations for the business this year due to positive customer sentiment and quoting activity, continued manufacturing onshoring, and public funding for infrastructure and other fixed asset investment programs.
Speaker #1: With December through March representing some of the strongest order entry we have seen in the past 18 months. This backlog extends into the fourth quarter of 2026.
Speaker #1: We continue to have high expectations for the business this year. Due to positive customer sentiment and quoting activity, continued manufacturing onshoring, and public funding for infrastructure and other fixed asset investment programs.
Speaker #1: The uplift from this macro environment could be considerable. Our steel fabrication platform provides meaningful volume support for our steel mills, particularly critical in softer demand environments, allowing us to operate at higher through-cycle utilization rates than our peers.
Barry Schneider: The uplift from this macro environment could be considerable. Our steel fabrication platform provides meaningful volume support for our steel mills, particularly critical in softer demand environments, allowing us to operate at higher through-cycle utilization rates than our peers. This also helps mitigate the financial risks associated with lower steel prices.
Speaker #1: This also helps mitigate the financial risks, associated with lower steel prices. Our metals recycling operations also performed well in the quarter, as scrap prices increased during the quarter.
Barry T. Schneider: Our metals recycling operations also performed well in the quarter as scrap prices increased during the quarter, more than doubling operating income. Congratulations to the team. They had some tough weather earlier in the year. The North American geographic footprint to our metals recycling platform provides a strategic competitive advantage for both our steel mills and our scrap-generating customers. In particular, our Mexican operations strengthen the raw material positions of our Columbus and Sinton facilities. They also provide strategic support for aluminum scrap procurement for our flat-rolled aluminum investments. Our metals recycling team is partnering even more closely with our steel and aluminum teams to expand scrap separation capabilities through enhanced processes and technology. This will help mitigate potential prime ferrous scrap challenges over time and provide a meaningful advantage in increasing recycled content in our aluminum flat roll products while expanding our earnings capabilities.
Barry Schneider: Our metals recycling operations also performed well in the quarter as scrap prices increased during the quarter, more than doubling operating income. Congratulations to the team. They had some tough weather earlier in the year. The North American geographic footprint to our metals recycling platform provides a strategic competitive advantage for both our steel mills and our scrap-generating customers.
Speaker #1: More than doubling operating income. Congratulations to the team. They had some tough weather earlier in the year. The North American Geographic Footprint, to our metals recycling platform, provides a strategic competitive advantage for both our STEEL mills and our scrap-generating customers.
Speaker #1: In particular, our Mexican operations strengthened the raw material positions of our Columbus and Sinton facilities. They also provide strategic support for aluminum scrap procurement for our flat-rolled aluminum investments.
Barry Schneider: In particular, our Mexican operations strengthen the raw material positions of our Columbus and Sinton facilities. They also provide strategic support for aluminum scrap procurement for our flat-rolled aluminum investments. Our metals recycling team is partnering even more closely with our steel and aluminum teams to expand scrap separation capabilities through enhanced processes and technology.
Speaker #1: Our metals recycling team is partnering even more closely with our steel and aluminum teams to expand scrap separation capabilities through enhanced processes and technology.
Speaker #1: This will help mitigate potential prime ferrous scrap challenges, over time, and provide a meaningful advantage in increasing recycled content in our aluminum flat-roll products, while expanding our earnings capabilities.
Barry Schneider: This will help mitigate potential prime ferrous scrap challenges over time and provide a meaningful advantage in increasing recycled content in our aluminum flat roll products while expanding our earnings capabilities. The steel team delivered a solid quarter with record shipments of 3.6 million tons. During Q1 2026, domestic steel industry operated at an estimated production utilization rate of 77%, while our steel mills operated at 89%.
Speaker #1: The STEEL team delivered a solid quarter with record shipments of 3.6 million tons. During the first quarter of 2026, domestic steel industry operated at an estimated production utilization rate of 77%, while our STEEL mills operated at 89%.
Barry T. Schneider: The steel team delivered a solid quarter with record shipments of 3.6 million tons. During Q1 2026, domestic steel industry operated at an estimated production utilization rate of 77%, while our steel mills operated at 89%. We consistently achieve higher utilization due to our value-added product diversification, differentiated customer supply chain solutions, and the support of our internal manufacturing businesses. This higher through-cycle utilization is a key competitive advantage, supporting our strong and growing cash generation and best-in-class financial metrics. Regarding the flat-rolled steel markets, conditions continue to improve, supported by strong demand and lower imports. Lead times remain elevated and customers remain optimistic about the outlook. Specifically in flat-rolled steel, we see improving value-added spreads returning with the impact of the core trade cases that we won in 2025.
Speaker #1: We consistently achieved higher utilization due to our value-added product diversification, differentiated customer supply chain solutions, and the support of our internal manufacturing businesses. This higher through-cycle utilization is a key competitive advantage, supporting our strong and growing cash generation and best-in-class financial metrics.
Barry Schneider: We consistently achieve higher utilization due to our value-added product diversification, differentiated customer supply chain solutions, and the support of our internal manufacturing businesses. This higher through-cycle utilization is a key competitive advantage, supporting our strong and growing cash generation and best-in-class financial metrics. Regarding the flat-rolled steel markets, conditions continue to improve, supported by strong demand and lower imports.
Speaker #1: Regarding the flat-rolled steel markets, conditions continue to improve, supported by strong demand and lower imports. Lead times remain elevated, and customers remain optimistic about the outlook.
Barry Schneider: Lead times remain elevated and customers remain optimistic about the outlook. Specifically in flat-rolled steel, we see improving value-added spreads returning with the impact of the core trade cases that we won in 2025. Long product steel markets continue to be strong in 2026, and we expect another solid year as demand and pricing remain favorable, particularly in structural steel and railroad rail, with our Columbia City and Roanoke both achieving record months in production.
Speaker #1: Specifically in flat-rolled steel, we see improving value-added spreads returning with the impact of the core trade cases that we want in 2025. Long-product STEEL markets continue to be strong in 2026, and we expect another solid year as demand and pricing remain favorable, particularly in structural steel and railroad rail.
Barry T. Schneider: Long product steel markets continue to be strong in 2026, and we expect another solid year as demand and pricing remain favorable, particularly in structural steel and railroad rail, with our Columbia City and Roanoke both achieving record months in production. SBQ markets are also improving across the various sectors with increasing manufacturing and energy product support. Regarding the steel market environments, North American automotive production estimates for 2026 are expected to be similar to 2025. Our specific automotive customer base has not only remained stable, but has provided opportunities for growth. We have become a supplier of choice for many US-based European and Asian automotive producers, due in part to our lower carbon content capabilities. Non-residential construction remains strong, led by data centers and an increase in multi-family home building. Our platforms continue to benefit from ongoing onshoring activity and domestic manufacturing projects.
Speaker #1: With our Columbia City and Roanoke both achieving record months in production, SBQ markets are also improving across the various sectors, with increasing manufacturing and energy product support.
Barry Schneider: SBQ markets are also improving across the various sectors with increasing manufacturing and energy product support. Regarding the steel market environments, North American automotive production estimates for 2026 are expected to be similar to 2025. Our specific automotive customer base has not only remained stable, but has provided opportunities for growth. We have become a supplier of choice for many US-based European and Asian automotive producers, due in part to our lower carbon content capabilities.
Speaker #1: Regarding the STEEL market environments, North American Automotive Production estimates for 2026 are expected to be similar to 2025. Our specific automotive customer base has not only remained stable, but has provided opportunities for growth.
Speaker #1: We have become a supplier of choice for many US-based, European, and Asian automotive producers due in part to our lower carbon content capabilities. Non-residential construction remains strong, led by data centers and an increase in multi-family home buildings.
Barry Schneider: Non-residential construction remains strong, led by data centers and an increase in multi-family home building. Our platforms continue to benefit from ongoing onshoring activity and domestic manufacturing projects. In the energy sector, oil and gas activity has been strong with the pipe mills already booked well into the summer, with solar continuing to remain strong in our order books. Overall, we remain optimistic considering demand for our diversified value-added steel products in the coming year. With that, I'll return it to Mark.
Speaker #1: Our platforms continue to benefit from ongoing onshoring activity in domestic manufacturing projects. In the energy sector, oil and gas activity has been strong, with the pipe mills already booked well into the summer.
Barry T. Schneider: In the energy sector, oil and gas activity has been strong with the pipe mills already booked well into the summer, with solar continuing to remain strong in our order books. Overall, we remain optimistic considering demand for our diversified value-added steel products in the coming year. With that, I'll return it to Mark.
Speaker #1: With solar continuing to remain strong in our order books, overall, we remain optimistic concerning demand for our diversified value-added steel products in the coming year.
Speaker #1: And with that, I'll return it to Mark.
Speaker #2: All right. Theresa, thank you. As you can see, everyone, it has been an incredibly good quarter. Great performance by everyone—something to celebrate for sure.
Mark D. Millett: Barry, Theresa, thank you. As you can see, everyone, it's been an incredibly good quarter. Great performance by everyone. Something to celebrate for sure. We're also celebrating Barry's birthday today. I just want to interject, and it's rarely do we get donuts anymore in the office, and today was a special day. We're celebrating that too. Again, the consistently sustained positive results, it just doesn't happen. As I think you all realize, it's the result of the strategies implemented and executed by the teams over time. We've continually invested strategically to drive scale of business, product market diversification, unique customer supply chains, and we've been linking operating platforms to optimize market opportunities throughout economic cycles. When combined with our performance-driven incentive culture, we consistently achieve at the highest levels compared to our peers.
Mark Millett: Barry, Theresa, thank you. As you can see, everyone, it's been an incredibly good quarter. Great performance by everyone. Something to celebrate for sure. We're also celebrating Barry's birthday today. I just want to interject, and it's rarely do we get donuts anymore in the office, and today was a special day. We're celebrating that too. Again, the consistently sustained positive results, it just doesn't happen.
Speaker #2: But we're also celebrating Barry's birthday today, so I just want to interject that rarely do we get donuts anymore in the office, and today was a special day.
Speaker #2: So we're celebrating that too. But again, the sort of consistently sort of sustained the positive results just doesn't happen, as I think you all realize.
Mark Millett: As I think you all realize, it's the result of the strategies implemented and executed by the teams over time. We've continually invested strategically to drive scale of business, product market diversification, unique customer supply chains, and we've been linking operating platforms to optimize market opportunities throughout economic cycles. When combined with our performance-driven incentive culture, we consistently achieve at the highest levels compared to our peers.
Speaker #2: It's the result of the strategies implemented and executed by the teams over time. We've continually invested strategically to provide scale of business, product market diversification, unique customer supply chains, and we've been linking operating platforms to optimize market opportunities throughout economic cycles.
Speaker #2: When combined with our performance-driven incentive culture, we consistently achieve at the highest levels compared to our peers. Our foundational focus on market and product diversification into high-margin, value-added products drives higher through-cycle utilization and superior financial metrics.
Mark D. Millett: Our foundational focus on market and product diversification into high-margin, value-added products drives higher through-cycle utilization and superior financial metrics. We optimize cash generation, allowing for a consistent and balanced cash allocation strategy that has consistently delivered strong shareholder returns. Our disciplined investment approach continues to support a strong and growing through-cycle cash generation profile while maintaining one of the highest ROIC metrics among our industrial peers. At the moment, our largest such investment is in the aluminum flat-rolled products arena. When touring the facilities there, the excitement of the aluminum team is palpable as you watch them perform, now transitioning from construction and commissioning to production and serving the customers with high-quality products. They're also constructively navigating a roiling aluminum market, manifest by the tragic impacts of the 2026 Iran war and the domestic supply chain challenges.
Mark Millett: Our foundational focus on market and product diversification into high-margin, value-added products drives higher through-cycle utilization and superior financial metrics. We optimize cash generation, allowing for a consistent and balanced cash allocation strategy that has consistently delivered strong shareholder returns. Our disciplined investment approach continues to support a strong and growing through-cycle cash generation profile while maintaining one of the highest ROIC metrics among our industrial peers.
Speaker #2: We optimize cash generation, allowing for a consistent and balanced cash allocation strategy that has consistently delivered strong shareholder returns. Our disciplined investment approach continues to support a strong and growing through-cycle cash generation profile, while maintaining one of the highest ROIC metrics among our industrial peers.
Speaker #2: At the moment, our largest such investment is in the aluminum flat-rolled products arena. And when touring the facilities there, the excitement of the aluminum team is palpable as you watch them perform, now transitioning from construction and commissioning to production and serving the customers with high-quality products.
Mark Millett: At the moment, our largest such investment is in the aluminum flat-rolled products arena. When touring the facilities there, the excitement of the aluminum team is palpable as you watch them perform, now transitioning from construction and commissioning to production and serving the customers with high-quality products. They're also constructively navigating a roiling aluminum market, manifest by the tragic impacts of the 2026 Iran war and the domestic supply chain challenges.
Speaker #2: They're also constructively navigating a roiling aluminum market manifest by the tragic impacts of the Iranian war and their domestic supply chain challenges. But beyond these hopefully near-term constraints, we're also experiencing a unique and very favorable long-term market environment.
Mark D. Millett: Beyond these, hopefully near-term constraints, we're also experiencing a unique and very favorable long-term market environment. There's a significant and fundamental domestic supply deficit of over 1.4 million tons of aluminum sheet, and this deficit is forecasted to grow with additional demand in the coming years. In 2024 and 2025, that deficit was supplied through high cost imports, which are now even higher, as tariffs increased from 10% in 2024 to the current 50% level. This investment is a clear alignment with SDI's core competencies. Our construction capabilities have once again been proven; both Columbus and our cast house in San Luis Potosí are state-of-the-art facilities, and they were brought on in record time compared to other facilities and at a very, very reasonable cost on budget or near to budget.
Mark Millett: Beyond these, hopefully near-term constraints, we're also experiencing a unique and very favorable long-term market environment. There's a significant and fundamental domestic supply deficit of over 1.4 million tons of aluminum sheet, and this deficit is forecasted to grow with additional demand in the coming years. In 2024 and 2025, that deficit was supplied through high cost imports, which are now even higher, as tariffs increased from 10% in 2024 to the current 50% level.
Speaker #2: There's a significant and fundamental domestic supply deficit of over 1.4 million tons of aluminum sheet, and this deficit is forecasted to grow with additional demand in the coming years.
Speaker #2: In 2024 and 2025, that deficit was supplied through high-cost imports, which are now even higher, as tariffs increased from 10% in '24 to the current 50% level.
Speaker #2: And this investment is a clear alignment with SDI's core competencies. Our construction capabilities have once again been proven—both Columbus and our cast house in San Luis Potosí are state-of-the-art facilities.
Mark Millett: This investment is a clear alignment with SDI's core competencies. Our construction capabilities have once again been proven; both Columbus and our cast house in San Luis Potosí are state-of-the-art facilities, and they were brought on in record time compared to other facilities and at a very, very reasonable cost on budget or near to budget.
Speaker #2: And they were brought on in record time compared to other facilities, and at a very, very reasonable cost—on budget, or near to budget.
Speaker #2: We're using SDI's deep operational know-how, in combination with the technical expertise of aluminum industry experts. And our proven incentive-driven performance culture will drive higher efficiency and lower-cost operations compared to our competitors.
Mark D. Millett: We're using SDI's deep operational know-how in combination with the technical expertise of aluminum industry experts, and our proven incentive-driven performance culture will drive higher efficiency and lower cost operations compared to our competitors. We also believe we have an advantaged commercial position. Two-thirds of our existing carbon flat-rolled steel customers also consume and process aluminum flat-rolled sheets. Our growth in the automotive sector will complement our existing steel position and provide customer material optionality. The beverage can market provides counter-cyclical market diversification, and a more stable earnings profile within the aluminum space will further enhance the consistency of our through-cycle cash generation. Our raw material platform will also facilitate high recycled content. We're the largest North American metals recycler, which includes aluminum, and we've successfully developed new separation technologies allowing us to have more access to usable aluminum scrap at a lower cost.
Mark Millett: We're using SDI's deep operational know-how in combination with the technical expertise of aluminum industry experts, and our proven incentive-driven performance culture will drive higher efficiency and lower cost operations compared to our competitors. We also believe we have an advantaged commercial position. Two-thirds of our existing carbon flat-rolled steel customers also consume and process aluminum flat-rolled sheets. Our growth in the automotive sector will complement our existing steel position and provide customer material optionality.
Speaker #2: We also believe we have an advantaged commercial position. Two-thirds of our existing carbon flat-rolled steel customers also consume and process aluminum flat-rolled sheet. Our growth in the automotive sector will complement our existing steel position and provide customer material optionality.
Speaker #2: The beverage can market provides canistrical market diversification, and the more stable earnings profile within the aluminum space will further enhance the consistency of our through-cycle cash generation.
Mark Millett: The beverage can market provides counter-cyclical market diversification, and a more stable earnings profile within the aluminum space will further enhance the consistency of our through-cycle cash generation. Our raw material platform will also facilitate high recycled content. We're the largest North American metals recycler, which includes aluminum, and we've successfully developed new separation technologies allowing us to have more access to usable aluminum scrap at a lower cost.
Speaker #2: Our raw material platform will also facilitate high recycled content. We're the largest North American metals recycler, which includes aluminum. And we've successfully developed new separation technologies, allowing us to have more access to usable aluminum scrap at a lower cost.
Speaker #2: Production to date, even at its early stages, is already confirming our expected earnings differentiation. When the markets normalize, we're confident in the through-cycle EBITDA expectation for normalized markets again remains at $650 to $700 million.
Mark D. Millett: Production to date, even at its early stages, is already confirming our expected earnings differentiation. When the markets normalize, we're confident in the through-cycle EBITDA expectation for normalized markets again, remains at $650 to $700 million, plus a further $40 to $50 million for our recycling platform. As we've spoken in the past, the four key areas of advantage from a labor efficiency standpoint, higher recycled content, higher yield, and optimized logistics. It's all driven by our performance-based operating culture utilizing state-of-the-art equipment. This strategic investment is a cost-effective and high return growth opportunity, providing Steel Dynamics with additional counter-cyclical diversification while further stabilizing and growing our cash generation capabilities. We've seen that the customer base is hungry for a new market entrant, one that is known to be innovative, customer-focused, and responsive.
Mark Millett: Production to date, even at its early stages, is already confirming our expected earnings differentiation. When the markets normalize, we're confident in the through-cycle EBITDA expectation for normalized markets again, remains at $650 to $700 million, plus a further $40 to $50 million for our recycling platform. As we've spoken in the past, the four key areas of advantage from a labor efficiency standpoint, higher recycled content, higher yield, and optimized logistics.
Speaker #2: Plus a further 40 to 50 million dollars for our recycling platform. As we've spoken in the past, the four key areas of advantage is from a labor efficiency standpoint, higher recycled content, higher yield, and optimized logistics.
Speaker #2: And it's all driven by our performance-based operating culture utilizing state-of-the-art equipment. This strategic investment is a cost-effective and high-return growth opportunity, providing Steel Dynamics with additional categorical diversification while further stabilizing and growing our cash generation capabilities.
Mark Millett: It's all driven by our performance-based operating culture utilizing state-of-the-art equipment. This strategic investment is a cost-effective and high return growth opportunity, providing Steel Dynamics with additional counter-cyclical diversification while further stabilizing and growing our cash generation capabilities. We've seen that the customer base is hungry for a new market entrant, one that is known to be innovative, customer-focused, and responsive.
Speaker #2: We've seen that the customer base is hungry for a new market entrant. One that is known to be innovative, customer-focused, and responsive. We view business relationships as long-term, founded on trust with a continuous goal of creating mutual value.
Mark D. Millett: We view business relationships as long-term, founded on trust with a continuous goal of creating mutual value. Not simply just financial value, but we will provide new supply chain solutions, new products with preferred quality and service. Many customers have already experienced this through the actions we have taken to help solve some of the recent supply chain challenges. It has been fortuitous for us, allowing us to help the market while accelerating material qualification. For all that said, all startups have their challenges and I would like to thank our customers for their patience as we fine-tune our operations and continue our ramp up. To date, we have received certifications from multiple customers for industrial and can sheet finished products, as well as certification for automotive aluminum hot band.
Mark Millett: We view business relationships as long-term, founded on trust with a continuous goal of creating mutual value. Not simply just financial value, but we will provide new supply chain solutions, new products with preferred quality and service. Many customers have already experienced this through the actions we have taken to help solve some of the recent supply chain challenges. It has been fortuitous for us, allowing us to help the market while accelerating material qualification.
Speaker #2: Not simply just financial value, but we will provide new supply chain solutions—new products with preferred quality and service. Many customers have already experienced this through the actions we have taken to help solve some of the recent supply chain challenges.
Speaker #2: There's been fortuitous for us, allowing us to help the market while accelerating material qualification. For all that said, all startups have their challenges and I would like to thank our customers for their patience as we fine-tune our operations and continue our ramp-up.
Mark Millett: For all that said, all startups have their challenges and I would like to thank our customers for their patience as we fine-tune our operations and continue our ramp up. To date, we have received certifications from multiple customers for industrial and can sheet finished products, as well as certification for automotive aluminum hot band.
Speaker #2: Today, we have received certifications from multiple customers for industrial and can sheet finished products, as well as certification for automotive aluminum hotband. What is incredible to me is that even finished automotive products are currently in the qualification process with several automotive customers.
Mark D. Millett: What is incredible to me is that even finished automotive products are currently in the qualification process with several automotive customers. We believe we could receive acceptance in the coming weeks. This accelerated certification should allow us to shift our product mix to a higher margin mix this year, reaching the planned optimized mix of 45% can sheet, 35% automotive, and 20% industrial sometime in 2027. The hot side is fully operational now and has demonstrated the ability to run at full-rated capacity. The last of four preheat furnaces will be in service at the end of Q2, and we have successfully rolled 3000, 5000, and 6000 alloys. Two of our three cold mills are now ramping operations and producing prime product. The third cold mill is expected to begin producing in Q3.
Mark Millett: What is incredible to me is that even finished automotive products are currently in the qualification process with several automotive customers. We believe we could receive acceptance in the coming weeks. This accelerated certification should allow us to shift our product mix to a higher margin mix this year, reaching the planned optimized mix of 45% can sheet, 35% automotive, and 20% industrial sometime in 2027.
Speaker #2: We believe we could receive acceptance in the coming weeks. This accelerated certification should allow us to shift our product mix to a higher-margin mix this year, reaching the planned optimized mix of 45% can sheet, 35% automotive, and 20% industrial sometime in '27.
Speaker #2: The hot side is fully operational now and has demonstrated the ability to run at full rated capacity. The last of four preheat furnaces will be in service at the end of the second quarter, and we have successfully rolled 3,000, 5,000, and 6,000 alloys.
Mark Millett: The hot side is fully operational now and has demonstrated the ability to run at full-rated capacity. The last of four preheat furnaces will be in service at the end of Q2, and we have successfully rolled 3000, 5000, and 6000 alloys. Two of our three cold mills are now ramping operations and producing prime product. The third cold mill is expected to begin producing in Q3.
Speaker #2: Two of our three coal mills are now ramping operations and producing prime product. The third coal mill is expected to begin producing in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: The code reversing mill, in particular, is successfully producing shippable 303 or 3003 5052 and 3104 product. The first of two automotive continuous anneal and solution heat treat lines, cash lines, is now operational and producing material for qualification for automotive customers.
Mark D. Millett: The cold reversing mill, in particular, is successfully producing shippable 3003, 5052, and 3104 product. The first of two automotive continuous anneal and solution heat treat lines, CASH lines, is now operational and producing material for qualification for automotive customers. The team has brought that particular line on in absolute record speed, and it truly is testimony to the team we have there. We believe we should receive qualification from several customers in the coming weeks. The second CASH line is expected to begin commissioning in Q3. The team is incredibly excited with the earlier-than-anticipated product certifications. Again, it is testament to the incredible talent we have been able to embed throughout the facility. There's great energy and great momentum. We're extremely excited by the physical production and quality capability of the mill today, especially this early in the startup.
Mark Millett: The cold reversing mill, in particular, is successfully producing shippable 3003, 5052, and 3104 product. The first of two automotive continuous anneal and solution heat treat lines, CASH lines, is now operational and producing material for qualification for automotive customers. The team has brought that particular line on in absolute record speed, and it truly is testimony to the team we have there.
Speaker #2: The team has brought that particular line on an absolute record speed and it's truly a testimony to the team we have there. And we believe we should receive qualification from several customers in the coming weeks.
Mark Millett: We believe we should receive qualification from several customers in the coming weeks. The second CASH line is expected to begin commissioning in Q3. The team is incredibly excited with the earlier-than-anticipated product certifications. Again, it is testament to the incredible talent we have been able to embed throughout the facility. There's great energy and great momentum. We're extremely excited by the physical production and quality capability of the mill today, especially this early in the startup.
Speaker #2: The second cash line is expected to begin commissioning in the third quarter. The team is incredibly excited with the earlier than anticipated product certifications.
Speaker #2: And again, it is a testament to the incredible talent we have been able to embed throughout the facility. There's great energy and great momentum.
Speaker #2: We're extremely excited by the physical production and quality capability of the mill today, especially this early in the startup. And we're focused on achieving operational and quality consistency.
Mark D. Millett: We're focused on achieving operational and quality consistency. We continue to believe we'll be exiting 2026 at a monthly rate of 90% capacity. As we continue to be impassioned by our current and future growth plans, as they will continue to drive the high return growth momentum we have consistently demonstrated over the years. The earnings growth of our most recent projects is compelling. The capital funding for Sinton, the 4 value add lines, and Aluminum Dynamics is basically complete with a projected future through cycle EBITDA contribution of $1.4 billion a year. I'm excited, as our teams, customers, and investors recognize the power and consistency of our strong cash generation, combined with our disciplined high return capital allocation strategy.
Mark Millett: We're focused on achieving operational and quality consistency. We continue to believe we'll be exiting 2026 at a monthly rate of 90% capacity. As we continue to be impassioned by our current and future growth plans, as they will continue to drive the high return growth momentum we have consistently demonstrated over the years. The earnings growth of our most recent projects is compelling.
Speaker #2: We continue to believe we'll be exiting 2026 at a monthly rate of 90% capacity. So as we continue to be impassioned by our current and future growth plans, as they will continue to drive the high-return growth momentum we have consistently demonstrated over the years.
Speaker #2: The earnings growth of our most recent projects is compelling. The capital funding for Sinton, the four value-add lines, and Aluminum Dynamics is basically complete, with a projected future through-cycle EBITDA contribution of $1.4 billion a year.
Mark Millett: The capital funding for Sinton, the 4 value add lines, and Aluminum Dynamics is basically complete with a projected future through cycle EBITDA contribution of $1.4 billion a year. I'm excited, as our teams, customers, and investors recognize the power and consistency of our strong cash generation, combined with our disciplined high return capital allocation strategy.
Speaker #2: I'm excited, as our teams, customers, and investors recognize the power and consistency of our strong cash generation combined with our disciplined, high-return capital allocation strategy.
Speaker #2: It is our belief that the steel industry is undergone a paradigm shift in recent years, supported by the pervasive sense of mercantilism that will provide a level playing field through continued and appropriate trade investment will continue to grow, which directly correlates with increased metal products demand.
Mark D. Millett: It is our belief that the steel industry has undergone a paradigm shift in recent years, supported by the pervasive sense of mercantilism that will provide a level playing field through continued and appropriate trade mechanisms. Fixed asset investment will continue to grow, which directly correlates with increased metal products demand. Reshoring of manufacturing continues to increase, and along with AI and cloud computing, will support non-residential construction, further strengthening what is an already robust long products market. Decarbonization itself will materially steepen the global cost curve, providing Steel Dynamics with a huge competitive advantage to gain market share and increase metal spreads. Our highly diversified value-added product capabilities provide us with a very unique advantage to leverage this evolving business environment and amplify our relative earnings capability.
Mark Millett: It is our belief that the steel industry has undergone a paradigm shift in recent years, supported by the pervasive sense of mercantilism that will provide a level playing field through continued and appropriate trade mechanisms. Fixed asset investment will continue to grow, which directly correlates with increased metal products demand. Reshoring of manufacturing continues to increase, and along with AI and cloud computing, will support non-residential construction, further strengthening what is an already robust long products market.
Speaker #2: And reassuring of manufacturing continues to increase, and along with AI and cloud computing, will support non-residential construction. Further strengthening what is an already robust long products market.
Speaker #2: Decarbonization itself will materially steepen the global cost curve, providing steel dynamics with a huge competitive advantage to gain market share and increase metal spreads.
Mark Millett: Decarbonization itself will materially steepen the global cost curve, providing Steel Dynamics with a huge competitive advantage to gain market share and increase metal spreads. Our highly diversified value-added product capabilities provide us with a very unique advantage to leverage this evolving business environment and amplify our relative earnings capability.
Speaker #2: Our highly diversified value-added product capabilities provide us with a very unique advantage to leverage this evolving business environment and amplify our relative earnings capability.
Speaker #2: So in closing, I've said it a million times, I think, I never tire of saying it, that our people and our foundation are our foundation.
Mark D. Millett: In closing, I've said it a million times, I think, I never tire of saying it, that our people are our foundation. I thank each of them for their passion and dedication. We're committed to them, and I remind those listening today that safety for yourselves, your families, and each other is the highest priority. I'd be remiss not to thank our loyal customers, many of whom have supported us since our inception. These partnerships are based on trust, on doing what we say we will do, and creating new solutions to enhance their value proposition. Our new aluminum partners are experiencing the same. Also to our suppliers and service providers who we value and trust and work with each and every day. Thank you. We look forward to creating new opportunities for all of us today and in the years ahead.
Mark Millett: In closing, I've said it a million times, I think, I never tire of saying it, that our people are our foundation. I thank each of them for their passion and dedication. We're committed to them, and I remind those listening today that safety for yourselves, your families, and each other is the highest priority. I'd be remiss not to thank our loyal customers, many of whom have supported us since our inception.
Speaker #2: I think you thank each of them for their passion and dedication. We're committed to them, and I remind those listening today that safety—for yourselves, your families, and each other—is the highest priority.
Speaker #2: And we remiss not to thank our loyal customers, many of whom have supported us since our inception, these partnerships are based on trust, on doing what we say we will do, and creating new solutions to enhance the value proposition.
Mark Millett: These partnerships are based on trust, on doing what we say we will do, and creating new solutions to enhance their value proposition. Our new aluminum partners are experiencing the same. Also to our suppliers and service providers who we value and trust and work with each and every day. Thank you. We look forward to creating new opportunities for all of us today and in the years ahead. Thank you, and we'll take questions now.
Speaker #2: Our new aluminum partners are experiencing the same. And also to our suppliers and service providers, whom we value and trust and work with each and every day.
Speaker #2: Thank you. So we look forward to creating new opportunities for all of us today and in the years ahead. So thank you and we'll take questions now.
Mark D. Millett: Thank you, and we'll take questions now.
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Operator: Also, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question to facilitate time for everyone. Any additional questions can be addressed upon reentering the queue. Please hold a moment while we poll for questions. The first question this morning is coming from Albert Realini from Jefferies. Albert, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #3: Hi. Good morning, all. Thank you for taking my question.
Albert Realini: Hi. Good morning, all. Thank you for taking my question.
Albert Realini: Hi. Good morning, all. Thank you for taking my question.
Speaker #4: Good morning, Albert.
Speaker #3: So on aluminum, obviously a lot of external moving parts impacting fundamentals here. So one, maybe if you could just talk through some of the impacts you expect to see on the business going forward from the recent change in tariff policy, and then I believe less quarter you kind of briefly touched on mark-to-market margins being higher than what was used in calculating the guided through-cycle EBITDA number for the business.
Mark D. Millett: Good morning, Albert.
Mark Millett: Good morning, Albert.
Albert Realini: On aluminum, obviously a lot of external moving parts impacting fundamentals here. One, maybe if you could just talk through some of the impacts you expect to see on the business going forward from the recent change in tariff policy. Then I believe last quarter, you kind of briefly touched on mark-to-market margins being higher than what was used in calculating the guided through cycle EBITDA number for the business. Obviously since that point, we've had some significant global supply impacts. Just wondering if you could provide any further color in terms of how much potential upside to those numbers you see at spot prices or margins. Thank you.
Albert Realini: On aluminum, obviously a lot of external moving parts impacting fundamentals here. One, maybe if you could just talk through some of the impacts you expect to see on the business going forward from the recent change in tariff policy. Then I believe last quarter, you kind of briefly touched on mark-to-market margins being higher than what was used in calculating the guided through cycle EBITDA number for the business.
Speaker #3: So, obviously since that point, we've had some significant global supply impacts. So, just wondering if you could provide any further color in terms of how much potential upside to those numbers you see at spot prices or margins.
Albert Realini: Obviously since that point, we've had some significant global supply impacts. Just wondering if you could provide any further color in terms of how much potential upside to those numbers you see at spot prices or margins. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Well, Albert, I'm not so sure our crystal ball is any clearer than yours for into the future. Obviously, the market today is absolutely phenomenal from a standpoint of entering a new facility.
Mark D. Millett: Well, Albert, I'm not so sure our crystal ball is any clearer than yours going into the future. Obviously, the market today is absolutely phenomenal from a standpoint of entering a new facility. Qualifying our products quicker has been a very fortuitous thing. Margins today are obviously very, very strong, which is helping a startup ramp. I guess from the performance today, looking at the yields, the efficiencies, et cetera. Again, we would say we're more than confident with the $650 to $700 million of EBITDA per year. We can't see any downside in the future.
Mark Millett: Well, Albert, I'm not so sure our crystal ball is any clearer than yours going into the future. Obviously, the market today is absolutely phenomenal from a standpoint of entering a new facility. Qualifying our products quicker has been a very fortuitous thing. Margins today are obviously very, very strong, which is helping a startup ramp. I guess from the performance today, looking at the yields, the efficiencies, et cetera. Again, we would say we're more than confident with the $650 to $700 million of EBITDA per year. We can't see any downside in the future.
Speaker #4: So qualifying our products quicker has been a very fortuitous thing. Margins today are obviously very, very strong, which is helping a startup ramp. I guess from the performance today—looking at the yields, the efficiencies, etc., etc.—again, we would just say we're confident, more than confident, with the $650 to $700 million of EBITDA per year.
Speaker #4: And we can't see any downside in the future.
Speaker #5: Yeah, so you're spot on. The spreads that we use from a profitability standpoint—just market-related for each of the product sets—are significantly lower than the spreads that are available today.
Theresa Wagler: Yeah. You're spot on. The spreads that we use from a profitability standpoint, just market related for each of the product sets, are significantly lower than the spreads that are available today. Right now, I think what we'd like to do is continue to have the teams perform incredibly well. There's a significant difference and a significant benefit that would inure to us in today's spread environment that we think does have more of a structural shift. In the coming months, what we'd like to do is actually probably discuss what true cycle is. We think just like the steel industry went through a structural change and what that might look like, the aluminum industry as well. I would just say more to come on that.
Theresa Wagler: Yeah. You're spot on. The spreads that we use from a profitability standpoint, just market related for each of the product sets, are significantly lower than the spreads that are available today. Right now, I think what we'd like to do is continue to have the teams perform incredibly well. There's a significant difference and a significant benefit that would inure to us in today's spread environment that we think does have more of a structural shift.
Speaker #5: And right now, I think what we'd like to do is continue to have the teams perform incredibly well. But there is a significant difference and a significant benefit that would endure to us in today's spread environment, that we think does have more of a structural shift in the coming months.
Theresa Wagler: In the coming months, what we'd like to do is actually probably discuss what true cycle is. We think just like the steel industry went through a structural change and what that might look like, the aluminum industry as well. I would just say more to come on that.
Speaker #5: What we'd like to do is actually probably discuss what 'through-cycle' is. We think, just like the steel industry went through a structural change, and what that might look like, the aluminum industry as well.
Speaker #5: So I would just say more to come on that.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Carlos de Alba from Morgan Stanley. Carlos, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #6: Yeah, thank you very much. Just staying on with the aluminum business—congrats on the ramp-up. I just wanted to maybe get a little bit more color on the issues that you faced in the past quarter, and related also to the inventory write-off that you had.
Carlos de Alba: Yeah, thank you very much. Just staying on with the aluminum business. Congrats on the ramp up. I just wanted to maybe get a little bit more color on the issues that you faced in the past quarter, and related also to the inventory write-off that you had. Was that due to quality issues or maybe just more color in general on what happened in the business, and what makes you feel comfortable that you have basically put those behind and will continue to ramp up the volumes? Thank you.
Carlos de Alba: Yeah, thank you very much. Just staying on with the aluminum business. Congrats on the ramp up. I just wanted to maybe get a little bit more color on the issues that you faced in the past quarter, and related also to the inventory write-off that you had. Was that due to quality issues or maybe just more color in general on what happened in the business, and what makes you feel comfortable that you have basically put those behind and will continue to ramp up the volumes? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Was that due to quality issues, or maybe just more color in general on what happened in the business? And what makes you feel comfortable that you have basically put those behind?
Speaker #6: And we'll continue to ramp up the volumes. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Carlos. Essentially, it was principally limited to the January a little bit into February. It was a you're right. It was a quality issue.
Mark D. Millett: Thank you, Carlos. Essentially, it was principally limited to the January, leaked a little bit into February. You're right, it was a quality issue. It was a stain on the product issue. Should've caught it, should've seen it, but it's been resolved.
Mark Millett: Thank you, Carlos. Essentially, it was principally limited to the January, leaked a little bit into February. You're right, it was a quality issue. It was a stain on the product issue. Should've caught it, should've seen it, but it's been resolved.
Speaker #4: It was a stain on the product issue. Should have caught it. Should have seen it. But it's been resolved.
Speaker #5: It wasn't an equipment issue, Carlos. It was a practice issue.
Theresa Wagler: It wasn't an equipment issue, Carlos. It was a practice issue.
Theresa Wagler: It wasn't an equipment issue, Carlos. It was a practice issue.
Mark D. Millett: Yeah.
Mark Millett: Yeah.
Speaker #2: Got it. Okay. And maybe, if I may add, any views on how you might ramp up the volumes? Clearly, as you just mentioned, current prices are significantly above what everyone expected.
Carlos de Alba: Got it. Okay. Maybe, if I may add, any views on how you might ramp up the volumes? Clearly, as you just mentioned, current prices are significantly above what everyone expected. The more you can produce and sell, the better. Any colors on that would be great. Thank you very much.
Carlos de Alba: Got it. Okay. Maybe, if I may add, any views on how you might ramp up the volumes? Clearly, as you just mentioned, current prices are significantly above what everyone expected. The more you can produce and sell, the better. Any colors on that would be great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #2: So the more you can produce and sell, the better. So, any color on that, that would be great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #4: Well, just as a ramp, in Q4 we were around 14,000 tons, I think, of shipments, give or take a little bit. Q1, you saw it's around 22,000.
Mark D. Millett: Well, just as a ramp in Q4, we were around 14,000 tons, I think, of shipments, give or take a little bit. Q1, you saw it's around 22,000. We're expecting, with the exception of any unexpected just to qualify, unexpected disruptions, we should be around, we think 60,000 to 70,000 tons in Q2. We have obviously, the cold reversing mill was running pretty well in Q1. We have the full addition of the first tandem mill, and that should change things dramatically down there.
Mark Millett: Well, just as a ramp in Q4, we were around 14,000 tons, I think, of shipments, give or take a little bit. Q1, you saw it's around 22,000. We're expecting, with the exception of any unexpected just to qualify, unexpected disruptions, we should be around, we think 60,000 to 70,000 tons in Q2. We have obviously, the cold reversing mill was running pretty well in Q1. We have the full addition of the first tandem mill, and that should change things dramatically down there.
Speaker #4: We're expecting with the exception of any unexpected, just to qualify, unexpected disruptions, we should be around we think 60 to 70 thousand tons in the second quarter.
Speaker #4: We have, obviously, the cold reversing mill was running pretty well in the first quarter. But we have the full addition of the first tandem mill.
Speaker #4: And that should change things dramatically down there.
Speaker #5: And I think, to speak to the quality—just to re-emphasize that—a majority of what we actually produced, or shipped, I should say more accurately, in the first quarter, and will be in the second quarter as well, is can sheet.
Theresa Wagler: I think to speak to the quality, just to reemphasize that, a majority of what we actually produced or shipped, I should say more accurately in Q1 and will be in Q2 as well, is can sheet. It's high quality material.
Theresa Wagler: I think to speak to the quality, just to reemphasize that, a majority of what we actually produced or shipped, I should say more accurately in Q1 and will be in Q2 as well, is can sheet. It's high quality material.
Speaker #5: So it's high-quality material.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Timna Tanners from Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #7: Yeah. Hey, good morning. Wanted to see if you could provide a little more color about your mix. I know with the coated lines ramping up, how is that progressing?
Timna Tanners: Yeah. Hey, good morning. I wanted to see if you could provide a little more color about your mix. I know with the coated lines ramping up, how is that progressing? I didn't hear the breakout. I don't know if you still provide that. If so, that'd be helpful. If I could, a second question, just, I know a lot of interest in what you're thinking about in terms of uses of cash with the strong free cash flow outlook, the fall in CapEx. If you could provide some more color on that, it'd be great.
Timna Tanners: Yeah. Hey, good morning. I wanted to see if you could provide a little more color about your mix. I know with the coated lines ramping up, how is that progressing? I didn't hear the breakout. I don't know if you still provide that. If so, that'd be helpful. If I could, a second question, just, I know a lot of interest in what you're thinking about in terms of uses of cash with the strong free cash flow outlook, the fall in CapEx. If you could provide some more color on that, it'd be great.
Speaker #7: I don't I didn't hear the breakout. I don't know if you still provide that. If so, that'd be helpful. And then if I could, a second question, just I know a lot of interest in what you're thinking about in terms of uses of cash with the strong free cash flow outlook to fall on CapEx.
Speaker #7: So, if you could provide some more color on that, it'd be great.
Speaker #5: Excellent. Good morning, Timna. I'm sorry I was remiss so I think you're specifically looking for the flat-rolled shipments. And the first quarter flat-rolled shipments for hot band was 1,017,000 tons.
Theresa Wagler: Excellent. Good morning, Timna. I'm sorry I was remiss. I think you're specifically looking for the flat-rolled shipments. Q1 flat-rolled shipments for hot band was 1,017,000 tons. Cold rolled was 151,000 tons, and coated was 1,530,000 tons. The four new value-added lines are actually operating incredibly well. Barry, percentage basis, do you have that?
Theresa Wagler: Excellent. Good morning, Timna. I'm sorry I was remiss. I think you're specifically looking for the flat-rolled shipments. Q1 flat-rolled shipments for hot band was 1,017,000 tons. Cold rolled was 151,000 tons, and coated was 1,530,000 tons. The four new value-added lines are actually operating incredibly well. Barry, percentage basis, do you have that?
Speaker #5: Cold-rolled was 151,000 tons, and coated was 1,530,000 tons. And the four new value-added lines are actually operating incredibly well. On a percentage basis, do you have that?
Barry T. Schneider: They're operating at full capacity right now, and the markets that they service are the markets that were the most impacted by the court cases. We are enjoying high quality production and making our customers happier, and making sure that we have the right stuff in all of our mixes like we normally do.
Barry Schneider: They're operating at full capacity right now, and the markets that they service are the markets that were the most impacted by the court cases. We are enjoying high quality production and making our customers happier, and making sure that we have the right stuff in all of our mixes like we normally do.
Speaker #4: They're operating at full capacity right now. And the markets that they service are the markets that were the most impacted by the core cases. So, we are enjoying high-quality production and making our customers happier.
Speaker #4: And making sure that we have the right stuff in all of our mixes like we normally do.
Speaker #7: And from a capital allocation perspective, we are focused on consistently doing what we've been doing, which we think has been really successful. So it's growing the business as our priority.
Theresa Wagler: From a capital allocation perspective, we are focused on consistently doing what we've been doing, which we think has been really successful. It's growing the business as our priority, and then complementing that with a progressively positive dividend profile, which is complemented by the share repurchase program, which we're still engaging in. I know we did take a bit of a pause in Q1 related to the working capital growth that we saw coming, both for the new operations that we have, but also just because we've had increased pricing across the business. You should continue to expect to see the same.
Theresa Wagler: From a capital allocation perspective, we are focused on consistently doing what we've been doing, which we think has been really successful. It's growing the business as our priority, and then complementing that with a progressively positive dividend profile, which is complemented by the share repurchase program, which we're still engaging in. I know we did take a bit of a pause in Q1 related to the working capital growth that we saw coming, both for the new operations that we have, but also just because we've had increased pricing across the business. You should continue to expect to see the same.
Speaker #7: And then complementing that with a progressively positive dividend profile, which is complemented by the share repurchase program, which we're still engaging in. And I know we did take a bit of a pause in the first quarter related to the working capital growth that we saw coming.
Speaker #7: Both for the new operations that we have, but also just because we've had increased pricing across the business. So, you should continue to expect to see the same.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Martin Engler from Seaport Research Partners. Martin, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #8: Hello. Good morning, everyone.
Martin Englert: Hello. Good morning, everyone.
Martin Englert: Hello. Good morning, everyone.
Speaker #4: Good morning.
Speaker #8: I have a I had a question on unit conversion costs. If you could just qualitatively touch on some of the positive, negative factors quarter on quarter, what moved higher, what moved lower, and curious if energy was any meaningful influence on the quarter.
Mark D. Millett: Good morning.
Mark Millett: Good morning.
Martin Englert: I had a question on unit conversion costs. If you could just qualitatively touch on some of the positive, negative factors quarter-over-quarter, what moved higher, what moved lower, and curious if energy was any meaningful influence on the quarter.
Martin Englert: I had a question on unit conversion costs. If you could just qualitatively touch on some of the positive, negative factors quarter-over-quarter, what moved higher, what moved lower, and curious if energy was any meaningful influence on the quarter.
Speaker #4: Martin, this is Barry. We didn't see any huge increases. We have seen some structural increases in things like paint. But as far as energy goes, there was a small boost here and there.
Barry T. Schneider: Martin, this is Barry. We didn't see any huge increases. We have seen some structural increases in things like paint. But as far as energy goes, there was small boost here and there, but not to a level that we're concerned about. Despite what's happening around the world, we have very good relationships and we're very efficient with our energy. Our teams respond when there are immediate upsets in energy, but we're able to continue running at very high rates of production and otherwise it's not a major concern for what we've seen so far.
Barry Schneider: Martin, this is Barry. We didn't see any huge increases. We have seen some structural increases in things like paint. But as far as energy goes, there was small boost here and there, but not to a level that we're concerned about. Despite what's happening around the world, we have very good relationships and we're very efficient with our energy. Our teams respond when there are immediate upsets in energy, but we're able to continue running at very high rates of production and otherwise it's not a major concern for what we've seen so far.
Speaker #4: But not to a level that we're concerned about. Despite what's happening around the world, we have very good relationships and we're very efficient with our energy.
Speaker #4: So, our teams respond when there are immediate upsets in energy. But we're able to continue running at very high rates of production and otherwise, it's not a major concern for what we've seen so far.
Speaker #5: To Barry's point, Martin, there's nothing to point out except remember that product mix really does have a pretty significant impact when you're viewing it from the outside in.
Theresa Wagler: To Barry's point, Martin, there's nothing to point out except remember that product mix really does have a pretty significant impact when you're viewing it from the outside in. Structural or long steel products just generally have higher conversion costs. As they continue to have really robust shipments and volumes because of demand, that does look from the outside in like our conversion costs are a bit higher.
Theresa Wagler: To Barry's point, Martin, there's nothing to point out except remember that product mix really does have a pretty significant impact when you're viewing it from the outside in. Structural or long steel products just generally have higher conversion costs. As they continue to have really robust shipments and volumes because of demand, that does look from the outside in like our conversion costs are a bit higher.
Speaker #5: And structural or long steel products just generally have higher conversion costs. So as they continue to have really robust shipments and volumes because of demand, that does look from the outside in like our conversion costs are a bit higher.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #9: Yes, hi. Thank you for taking my questions, and a happy birthday, Barry. The question I have is on pricing. I just wanted to have your view on the market at the moment. I mean, if we look at a chart with historical steel prices in the U.S., up cycles have always been very brutal—big swings in prices.
Tristan Gresser: Yes. Hi, thank you for taking my questions, and happy birthday, Barry. The question I have is on pricing. I just wanted to have your view on the market at the moment. If we look at a chart with historical steel prices in the US, up cycles have always been very brutal, big swings in prices, and this time it's been very different, very gradual price increases almost on a weekly basis. We'd like to have you how do you explain that? And most importantly, is that improving, you think, the sustainability of the current rally? How do you view the supply and demand at the moment for flat-rolled, and any risk of imports picking up in the coming months and disrupt a bit the balance? Thank you.
Tristan Gresser: Yes. Hi, thank you for taking my questions, and happy birthday, Barry. The question I have is on pricing. I just wanted to have your view on the market at the moment. If we look at a chart with historical steel prices in the US, up cycles have always been very brutal, big swings in prices, and this time it's been very different, very gradual price increases almost on a weekly basis.
Speaker #9: And this time, it's been very different—very gradual price increases, almost on a weekly basis. So I'd like to have you—how do you explain that?
Tristan Gresser: We'd like to have you how do you explain that? And most importantly, is that improving, you think, the sustainability of the current rally? How do you view the supply and demand at the moment for flat-rolled, and any risk of imports picking up in the coming months and disrupt a bit the balance? Thank you.
Speaker #9: And most importantly, is that improving, do you think, the sustainability of the current rally? How do you view the supply and demand at the moment for flat-rolled, and is there any risk of imports picking up in the coming months and disrupting the balance a bit?
Speaker #9: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Tristan, when we look at the flat-roll markets, we're seeing our customers have more confidence. And certainly, the tariff world we've been living in the last two years has had impacts.
Barry T. Schneider: Tristan, when we look at the flat roll markets, we're seeing our customers have more confidence. Certainly the tariff world we've been living in the last two years has had impacts. I think more importantly, a lot of our customers have seen that supply chains are very important. When we have discussions with our customers, our supply chain position being so local to many of the businesses and having diverse products, it allows us to engage with them on a longer term frame than just what we see in a quarter or perhaps half a year. We do have confidence that this market is strong, it's demand driven. We do feel like the pricing has been responsive as capacity has gotten closer, ramped up across the industry. Getting imports that are unfairly dumped into this country were very significant.
Barry Schneider: Tristan, when we look at the flat roll markets, we're seeing our customers have more confidence. Certainly the tariff world we've been living in the last two years has had impacts. I think more importantly, a lot of our customers have seen that supply chains are very important. When we have discussions with our customers, our supply chain position being so local to many of the businesses and having diverse products, it allows us to engage with them on a longer term frame than just what we see in a quarter or perhaps half a year.
Speaker #4: But I think more importantly, a lot of our customers have seen that supply chains are very important. So when we have discussions with our customers our supply chain position being so local to many of the businesses and having diverse products, it allows us to engage with them on a longer-term frame than just what we see in a quarter, perhaps half a year.
Speaker #4: So we do have confidence that this market is strong. It's demand-driven. We do feel like the pricing has been responsive as capacity has gotten closer ramped up across the industry.
Barry Schneider: We do have confidence that this market is strong, it's demand driven. We do feel like the pricing has been responsive as capacity has gotten closer, ramped up across the industry. Getting imports that are unfairly dumped into this country were very significant.
Speaker #4: Getting imports that are unfairly dumped in this contract into this country, we're very significant. Those are so disruptive and there's subsequent cases that have been filed regarding circumvention.
Barry T. Schneider: Those are so disruptive, and there's subsequent cases that have been filed regarding circumvention. All the steel tons that are at sea have to find a home. When you have a global interruption like we have right now, I'm very happy that we have Section 232 protections. The executive orders early in April that helped further define both steel products, aluminum products, as well as derivative products is very helpful because that encompasses the entire supply chain. I think we are feeling the results right now of our businesses in America picking up and the supply chain excellence that we have is really taking hold. I feel like we have good position and we're strong. We're super excited about long products. There's so many big projects out there that engineering and ownership of those projects is getting involved early with our long products team.
Barry Schneider: Those are so disruptive, and there's subsequent cases that have been filed regarding circumvention. All the steel tons that are at sea have to find a home. When you have a global interruption like we have right now, I'm very happy that we have Section 232 protections. The executive orders early in April that helped further define both steel products, aluminum products, as well as derivative products is very helpful because that encompasses the entire supply chain.
Speaker #4: All the steel tons that are at sea have to find a home. And when you have a global interruption like we have right now, I'm very happy that we have 232 protections.
Speaker #4: The executive orders early in April that helped further define both steel products, aluminum products, as well as derivative products is very helpful because that encompasses the entire supply chain.
Speaker #4: So, I think we are feeling the results right now of our businesses in America picking up, and the supply chain excellence that we have is really taking hold.
Barry Schneider: I think we are feeling the results right now of our businesses in America picking up and the supply chain excellence that we have is really taking hold. I feel like we have good position and we're strong. We're super excited about long products. There's so many big projects out there that engineering and ownership of those projects is getting involved early with our long products team.
Speaker #4: So I feel like we have good position and we're strong. And we're super excited about long products. There's so many big projects out there that engineering and ownership of those projects is getting involved early with our long products team.
Speaker #4: We continue to market our long products and our fabrication teams together. That allows us to establish positions with these projects, whether it's pharmaceuticals, electric vehicle production, or energy.
Barry T. Schneider: We continue to market our long products and our fabrication teams together. That allows us to establish positions with these projects, whether it's pharmaceuticals, electric vehicle production, or energy. We have solutions that help them. It's a robust market we're in. We hope globally things calm down a little, but other than that, we're doing our best to make our customers happy.
Barry Schneider: We continue to market our long products and our fabrication teams together. That allows us to establish positions with these projects, whether it's pharmaceuticals, electric vehicle production, or energy. We have solutions that help them. It's a robust market we're in. We hope globally things calm down a little, but other than that, we're doing our best to make our customers happy.
Speaker #4: We have solutions that help them. So it's a robust market we're in. And we hope globally things calm down a little, but other than that, we're doing our best to make our customers happy.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Kasia Janik. Kasia, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #10: Hi, thank you for taking my question. Maybe on the pig iron side, the prices are moving higher. Can you remind us how much pig iron you currently import?
Katja Jancic: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe on the pig iron side, the prices are moving higher. Can you remind us how much of pig iron do you currently import, and are there any potential mitigating factors you're looking at taking?
Katja Jancic: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe on the pig iron side, the prices are moving higher. Can you remind us how much of pig iron do you currently import, and are there any potential mitigating factors you're looking at taking?
Speaker #10: And are there any potential mitigating factors you're looking at taking?
Speaker #4: Kasia, I'll give you a brief overview. We only use pig iron at our flat-rolled mills. Our butler mill has its own technology for making liquid iron.
Barry T. Schneider: Kasia, I'll give you a brief overview. We only use pig iron at our flat rolled mills. Our Butler Mill has its own technology for making liquid iron that takes care of about 90% of Butler's needs. That liquid iron is actually produced from recycled iron oxide products, so it's also a very sustainable product. When we look at the Columbus Mill and Sinton Mill, that's our primary users of pig iron, and we will use anywhere between 12% and 22%. We do that based on what the quality is required and the productivity is required for those products. What we do to mitigate that is really found through our relationships with Omni, our scrap provider. We have an incredible connection between the scrap and the steel side.
Barry Schneider: Kasia, I'll give you a brief overview. We only use pig iron at our flat rolled mills. Our Butler Mill has its own technology for making liquid iron that takes care of about 90% of Butler's needs. That liquid iron is actually produced from recycled iron oxide products, so it's also a very sustainable product. When we look at the Columbus Mill and Sinton Mill, that's our primary users of pig iron, and we will use anywhere between 12% and 22%.
Speaker #4: That takes care of about 90% of butler's needs. Those that liquid iron is actually produced from recycled iron oxide products. So it's also a very sustainable product.
Speaker #4: So, when we look at the Columbus Mill and Sentinel Mill, that's our primary users of pig iron. And we will use anywhere between 12% and 22%.
Speaker #4: And we do that based on what the quality is required and the productivity is required for those products. So what we do to mitigate that is really found through our relationships with Omni, our scrap provider.
Barry Schneider: We do that based on what the quality is required and the productivity is required for those products. What we do to mitigate that is really found through our relationships with Omni, our scrap provider. We have an incredible connection between the scrap and the steel side. The scrap is continually cleaning the SHRED-1 product we call it, so that we know exactly what we're going to get in the melting furnace when we want it. That's a big part of being able to capture value in that supply chain.
Speaker #4: We have incredible connection between the scrap and the steel side. So the scrap is continually cleaning the shred—one product we call it—so that we know exactly what we're going to get.
Barry T. Schneider: The scrap is continually cleaning the SHRED-1 product we call it, so that we know exactly what we're going to get in the melting furnace when we want it. That's a big part of being able to capture value in that supply chain. What we do to mitigate it is we put very clean, shredded product, very clean busheling intentionally when we need it. We use pig iron to supplement that. We look at the cost every day and availability. We've been very good at buying. I think we keep good positions of pig iron. We're aware of the working capital, so we also don't just binge on it for sure. But, I'm really proud of what the teams do between Omni and the scrap, on the scrap side and what our melt shops do.
Speaker #4: In the melting furnace, when we want it. That's a big part of being able to capture value in that supply chain. So what we're doing what we do to mitigate it is we put very clean shredded product, very clean busheling.
Barry Schneider: What we do to mitigate it is we put very clean, shredded product, very clean busheling intentionally when we need it. We use pig iron to supplement that. We look at the cost every day and availability. We've been very good at buying. I think we keep good positions of pig iron. We're aware of the working capital, so we also don't just binge on it for sure. But, I'm really proud of what the teams do between Omni and the scrap, on the scrap side and what our melt shops do.
Speaker #4: Intentionally, when we need it, we use pig iron to supplement that. So we look at the cost every day and the availability. So we've been very good at buying I think we keep good positions of pig iron.
Speaker #4: We're aware of the working capital, so we also don't just binge on it, for sure. But I'm really proud of what the teams do between Omni and the scrap side, and what our melt shops do.
Barry T. Schneider: We got a great iron team in the middle that helps coordinate that. It's really a benefit of having a team so closely connected and free to make those decisions quickly. It's real. Prices go up, but we continue to find better ways to minimize it and better ways to let our team do what they do best.
Barry Schneider: We got a great iron team in the middle that helps coordinate that. It's really a benefit of having a team so closely connected and free to make those decisions quickly. It's real. Prices go up, but we continue to find better ways to minimize it and better ways to let our team do what they do best.
Speaker #4: We’ve got a great iron team in the middle that helps coordinate that, so it’s really a benefit of having a team so closely connected and free to make those decisions quickly.
Speaker #4: So it's real prices go up, but we continue to find better ways to minimize it and better ways to let our team do what they do best.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Samuel McKinney from KeyBank. Samuel, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Samuel McKinney from KeyBanc. Samuel, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Samuel McKinney from KeyBanc. Samuel, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Speaker #11: Hey, good morning.
Samuel McKinney: Hey, good morning.
Samuel McKinney: Hey, good morning.
Speaker #4: Good morning.
Barry T. Schneider: Good morning.
Barry Schneider: Good morning.
Speaker #11: Hey, I think I'll ask a birthday question for Barry, after he called out the solid results, and structural rail put up the best quarterly shipment number in a couple of years. You guys also noted demand there remains very strong.
Samuel McKinney: Hey, I think I'll ask a birthday question for Barry after he called out the solid results in structural rail. Put up the best quarterly shipment number in a couple of years, and you guys noted demand there remains very strong. Maybe dig a little deeper into what's driving the uptick in activity there and how the 2026 contract shook out versus last year.
Samuel McKinney: Hey, I think I'll ask a birthday question for Barry after he called out the solid results in structural rail. Put up the best quarterly shipment number in a couple of years, and you guys noted demand there remains very strong. Maybe dig a little deeper into what's driving the uptick in activity there and how the 2026 contract shook out versus last year.
Speaker #11: Maybe dig a little deeper into what's driving the uptick in activity there and how the 26 contracts shook out versus last year.
Speaker #4: Well, on the long product side, I think the team even after all the years our incentive-based system drives our people to make better things and more of them.
Barry T. Schneider: Well, on the Long Products side, I think the team, even after all the years, our incentive-based system drives our people to make better things and more of them. That team has just been very efficient at putting together sequencing. Last month, the melt shop in cash was 200,000 tons, which is a difficult achievement in a long products mill because of the different sections they cast. The efficiency of operations helps them put the right backlog on the ground, put the right inventory in place. I can't say enough about how the sales team, through the Long Products group, is working together to make sure that Roanoke, Cielo, West Virginia, and Columbia City are all equally represented to customers so that we can get the best positions to make what they need.
Barry Schneider: Well, on the Long Products side, I think the team, even after all the years, our incentive-based system drives our people to make better things and more of them. That team has just been very efficient at putting together sequencing. Last month, the melt shop in cash was 200,000 tons, which is a difficult achievement in a long products mill because of the different sections they cast.
Speaker #4: And that team has just been very efficient at putting together sequencing. Last month, the melt shop and cast was 200,000 tons, which is a difficult achievement in a long products mill because of the different sections they cast.
Speaker #4: So the efficiency of operations helps them put the right backlog on the ground, put the right inventory in place. But I can't say enough about how the sales team through the long products group is working together to make sure that Roanoke, SeAL of West Virginia, and Columbia City are all equally represented to customers so that we can get the best positions to make what they need.
Barry Schneider: The efficiency of operations helps them put the right backlog on the ground, put the right inventory in place. I can't say enough about how the sales team, through the Long Products group, is working together to make sure that Roanoke, Cielo, West Virginia, and Columbia City are all equally represented to customers so that we can get the best positions to make what they need.
Speaker #4: So, I think the optimization is really a part of just the ongoing challenge our mills operate with, with incentive. And there's been a shock to the railroad rail system over the last year.
Barry T. Schneider: I think the optimization is really a part of just the ongoing challenge our mills operate with incentive. There's been a shock to the railroad rail system over the last year. We were able to also increase some of those products with our customer base to help alleviate some other supply-side problems that existed in rail, continues to be a good part of our product offering. We also, our SBQ mill, with increased sales and relationships through the automotive, energy, and other forging customers, has also been purchasing from Columbia City. We're able to work all the long products very efficiently together. That allows.
Barry Schneider: I think the optimization is really a part of just the ongoing challenge our mills operate with incentive. There's been a shock to the railroad rail system over the last year. We were able to also increase some of those products with our customer base to help alleviate some other supply-side problems that existed in rail, continues to be a good part of our product offering.
Speaker #4: We were able to also increase some of those products with our customer base to help alleviate some other supply side problems that existed in rail.
Speaker #4: It continues to be a good part of our product offering. And we also—our SPQ mill, with increased sales and relationships through the automotive, energy, and other forging customers, has also been purchasing from Columbia City.
Barry Schneider: We also, our SBQ mill, with increased sales and relationships through the automotive, energy, and other forging customers, has also been purchasing from Columbia City. We're able to work all the long products very efficiently together. That allows. I tell the guys, "Good decisions you made 2, 3 years ago, you get to enjoy today." They continue to make tough decisions when they have to so that we can run better when we have a market in front of us.
Speaker #4: So we're able to work all the long products very efficiently together. That allows and I tell the guys good decisions you made two, three years ago you get to enjoy today.
Barry T. Schneider: I tell the guys, "Good decisions you made 2, 3 years ago, you get to enjoy today." They continue to make tough decisions when they have to so that we can run better when we have a market in front of us. We're excited about what we see. We don't see it slowing down, and we're happy to be engaging the projects early in the process. That helps with speccing and laying out the best solution through the fabricating networks.
Speaker #4: So, they continue to make tough decisions when they have to, so that we can run better when we have a market in front of us.
Speaker #4: So we're excited about what we see. We don't see it slowing down. And we're happy to be engaging the projects early in the process.
Barry Schneider: We're excited about what we see. We don't see it slowing down, and we're happy to be engaging the projects early in the process. That helps with speccing and laying out the best solution through the fabricating networks.
Speaker #4: That helps with speccing and laying out the best solution through the fabricating networks.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Lawson Winder from Bank of America. Lawson, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Operator: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Lawson Winder from Bank of America. Lawson, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Speaker #12: Fantastic. Thank you, operator. Good morning, Mark, Teresa, and Barry. Happy birthday, Barry.
Lawson Winder: Fantastic. Thank you, operator. Good morning, Mark, Theresa, and Barry. Happy birthday, Barry.
Lawson Winder: Fantastic. Thank you, operator. Good morning, Mark, Theresa, and Barry. Happy birthday, Barry.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Barry T. Schneider: Thank you.
Barry Schneider: Thank you.
Speaker #12: STEEL DYNAMICS, look, you guys have never been one to pass up on an opportunity for growth or expansion. And I was just thinking just your prior discussion there of long products and all the opportunity there.
Lawson Winder: Steel Dynamics. Look, you guys have never been one to pass up on an opportunity for growth or expansion. I was just thinking, your prior discussion there of long products and all the opportunity there. Can you make a compelling case today for a material expansion in that long products market? I'm going to try and touch on a second sort of related question, which is, and I brought it up on these calls before, but it's just like the aluminum rolling market in the US is, I think, a great opportunity. Today with the benefit of now being really active in the market, same question. Do you see a case for investment by Steel Dynamics into that market as well for new capacity?
Lawson Winder: Steel Dynamics. Look, you guys have never been one to pass up on an opportunity for growth or expansion. I was just thinking, your prior discussion there of long products and all the opportunity there. Can you make a compelling case today for a material expansion in that long products market?
Speaker #12: I mean, can you make a compelling case today for a material expansion in that long products market? And I'm going to try and tack on a second sort of related question, which is—and I’ve brought it up on these calls before—but it’s just like the aluminum rolling market in the US is, I think, a great opportunity.
Lawson Winder: I'm going to try and touch on a second sort of related question, which is, and I brought it up on these calls before, but it's just like the aluminum rolling market in the US is, I think, a great opportunity. Today with the benefit of now being really active in the market, same question. Do you see a case for investment by Steel Dynamics into that market as well for new capacity?
Speaker #12: But today, with the benefit of now being really active in the market, same question. I mean, do you see a case for investment by Steel Dynamics into that market as well for new capacity?
Speaker #4: Well, I think we—well, you, I think, know our team, perhaps. But it's incredibly inspiring as to the opportunities and the ideas that they bring forth.
Barry T. Schneider: Well, I think you know our team, perhaps. It's incredibly inspiring as to the opportunities and the ideas that they bring forth. We've got a pipeline, a broad pipeline of strategic opportunities, greenfield growth, for sure, across all the spaces. Aluminum Dynamics, for sure, has opportunity. We see an industry that was a little bit like the steel industry 30+ years ago, that they haven't been able to earn the cost of capital consistently and reinvest in their facilities and grow. We would like to take advantage of that. There are products for sure, certain product lines that we feel we could invest in long-term. Obviously, there's a massive supply deficit there, which will continue to grow. We do see tremendous opportunity in aluminum. At the same time, we're a steel company, and the steel guys have got their own innovative projects.
Barry Schneider: Well, I think you know our team, perhaps. It's incredibly inspiring as to the opportunities and the ideas that they bring forth. We've got a pipeline, a broad pipeline of strategic opportunities, greenfield growth, for sure, across all the spaces. Aluminum Dynamics, for sure, has opportunity. We see an industry that was a little bit like the steel industry 30+ years ago, that they haven't been able to earn the cost of capital consistently and reinvest in their facilities and grow. We would like to take advantage of that.
Speaker #4: And we've got a pipeline, a broad pipeline of strategic opportunities—greenfield growth, for sure, across all the spaces. Aluminum Dynamics, for sure, has opportunity.
Speaker #4: We see an industry there that was a little bit like the steel industry 30-plus years ago, that they haven't been able to earn the cost of capital consistently and reinvest in their facilities and grow.
Speaker #4: We would like to take advantage of that, and so there are products—for sure, certain product lines—that we feel we could invest in.
Barry Schneider: There are products for sure, certain product lines that we feel we could invest in long-term. Obviously, there's a massive supply deficit there, which will continue to grow. We do see tremendous opportunity in aluminum. At the same time, we're a steel company, and the steel guys have got their own innovative projects. We're assessing them, and as we see fit, we will invest accordingly.
Speaker #4: Long term, and obviously, there's a massive supply deficit there, which will continue to grow. So we do see tremendous opportunity in aluminum. But at the same time, we're a steel company, and the steel guys have got their own innovative projects.
Speaker #4: So, we're assessing them, and as we see fit, we will invest accordingly.
Barry T. Schneider: We're assessing them, and as we see fit, we will invest accordingly.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Bill Peterson from JPMorgan. Bill, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Operator: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Bill Peterson from JPMorgan. Bill, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Speaker #13: Good morning. This is Bennett on for Bill. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about STEEL substitution amid the elevated aluminum price environment.
[Analyst] (J.P. Morgan): Good morning. This is Bill Peterson for Bill. Thank you for taking my questions.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Good morning. This is Bill Peterson for Bill. Thank you for taking my questions.
Barry T. Schneider: Good morning.
Barry Schneider: Good morning.
[Analyst] (J.P. Morgan): I wanted to ask about steel substitution amid the updated aluminum price environment. Over the past few weeks, we've heard from companies in both sectors, actually, that this may be starting to unfold. Given that Steel Dynamics now uniquely sits on both sides of the fence, are you hearing about this from your customers? Are you seeing any evidence of it to date?
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): I wanted to ask about steel substitution amid the updated aluminum price environment. Over the past few weeks, we've heard from companies in both sectors, actually, that this may be starting to unfold. Given that Steel Dynamics now uniquely sits on both sides of the fence, are you hearing about this from your customers? Are you seeing any evidence of it to date?
Speaker #13: I mean, over the past few weeks, we've heard from companies in both sectors, actually, that this may be starting to unfold. And given that Steel Dynamics now uniquely sits on both sides of the fence, are you hearing about this from your customers?
Speaker #13: Are you seeing any evidence of it to date?
Speaker #4: Well, the good thing there is we do have that optionality, and I can take advantage of whatever direction the market may go. We have not seen or heard of any substantial substitution, to be honest, Ben.
Mark D. Millett: Well, the good thing there is we do have that optionality and can take advantage of whatever direction the market may go. We have not seen or heard of any substantial substitution, to be honest, Ben. I don't believe you're going to see it. The investments that the automotive companies have made in their production facilities is massive. You don't change that overnight. The pricing environment that we see today will change for sure and will revert to a more normalized level at some point, albeit at a high level and a very good opportunity for us for Aluminum Dynamics.
Mark Millett: Well, the good thing there is we do have that optionality and can take advantage of whatever direction the market may go. We have not seen or heard of any substantial substitution, to be honest, Ben. I don't believe you're going to see it. The investments that the automotive companies have made in their production facilities is massive. You don't change that overnight.
Speaker #4: And I don't believe you're going to see it. The investments that the automotive companies have made in their production facilities is massive. And you don't change that—you don't change that overnight.
Speaker #4: The pricing environment that we see today will change, for sure. And we'll revert to a more normalized level at some point, albeit at a high level.
Mark Millett: The pricing environment that we see today will change for sure and will revert to a more normalized level at some point, albeit at a high level and a very good opportunity for us for Aluminum Dynamics.
Speaker #4: And a very good opportunity for us for Aluminum Dynamics.
Speaker #1: Well, and I think even. Counter to the idea of substitution, there's just been recent announcements from a major automotive producer where they're adding additional aluminum in the auto bodies in the Midwest.
Theresa Wagler: Well, I think even counter to the idea of substitution, there's just been recent announcements from a major automotive producer where they're adding additional aluminum in the auto bodies in the Midwest, and so they'll be increasing demand from that perspective. I think that further supports the idea of lack of substitution.
Theresa Wagler: Well, I think even counter to the idea of substitution, there's just been recent announcements from a major automotive producer where they're adding additional aluminum in the auto bodies in the Midwest, and so they'll be increasing demand from that perspective. I think that further supports the idea of lack of substitution.
Speaker #1: And so there'll be increasing demand from that perspective. So I think that further supports the idea of a lack of substitution.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is live. Please go ahead.
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Operator: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Speaker #14: Yeah, just thank you for taking the follow-up. Just two quick ones. Was the I know you mentioned in December that the plant was the aluminum plant was a bit positive.
Tristan Gresser: Yeah. Thank you for taking the follow-up. Just two quick ones. I know you mentioned in December that the aluminum plant was EBITDA positive. I was wondering if you could share some information about March, if the plant was EBITDA positive in March already. Just regarding BlueScope, what is the situation at the moment? There's still discussion ongoing. What can you tell us? Yeah, that'd be it. Thank you.
Tristan Gresser: Yeah. Thank you for taking the follow-up. Just two quick ones. I know you mentioned in December that the aluminum plant was EBITDA positive. I was wondering if you could share some information about March, if the plant was EBITDA positive in March already. Just regarding BlueScope, what is the situation at the moment? There's still discussion ongoing. What can you tell us? Yeah, that'd be it. Thank you.
Speaker #14: I was wondering if you could share some information about March if the plant was a bit positive in March already. And just regarding BlueScope, what is the situation at the moment?
Speaker #14: Are STEEL discussions ongoing? What can you tell us? Yeah, that'd be it. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Tristan. From an aluminum perspective, the plant was not on a full-quarter basis EBITDA positive, but it was basically break-even combined February and March, because we had that pause in January that made it difficult.
Theresa Wagler: Thanks, Tristan. From an aluminum perspective, the plant was not on a full quarter basis EBITDA positive, but it was basically breakeven combined February and March because we had that pause in January that made it difficult. They're doing an incredible job now with full expectations for the remainder of the year to be very positive from an EBITDA perspective. Mark, do you want to handle the BlueScope question?
Theresa Wagler: Thanks, Tristan. From an aluminum perspective, the plant was not on a full quarter basis EBITDA positive, but it was basically breakeven combined February and March because we had that pause in January that made it difficult. They're doing an incredible job now with full expectations for the remainder of the year to be very positive from an EBITDA perspective. Mark, do you want to handle the BlueScope question?
Speaker #1: But they're doing an incredible job now, with full expectations for the remainder of the year to be very positive from an EBITDA perspective. Mark, do you want to handle the BlueScope question?
Speaker #15: Yeah. I think obviously, we never talk with any great specificity as to what we're doing from a strategic standpoint. But suffice it to say, we have a an incredibly strong partnership with Ryan Stokes and the SGH organization.
Mark D. Millett: Yeah, I think, obviously, we never talk with any great specificity as to what we're doing from a strategic standpoint, but suffice it to say, we have an incredibly strong partnership with Ryan Stokes and the SGH organization. As you know, we presented what we consider a best and final sort of joint offer, and I believe it was absolutely full and fair, and that was back in February. As you have seen, that best and final offer was summarily rejected, and there's been no constructive engagement by the company since.
Mark Millett: Yeah, I think, obviously, we never talk with any great specificity as to what we're doing from a strategic standpoint, but suffice it to say, we have an incredibly strong partnership with Ryan Stokes and the SGH organization. As you know, we presented what we consider a best and final sort of joint offer, and I believe it was absolutely full and fair, and that was back in February. As you have seen, that best and final offer was summarily rejected, and there's been no constructive engagement by the company since.
Speaker #15: And as you know, we presented what we consider a best and final sort of joint offer in this, I believe it was absolutely full and
Speaker #1: And that was back in February As you have seen that that best and final offer was summarily rejected . And there has been no constructive engagement by the company since
Speaker #2: Thank you . Your next question is coming from Timna Tanners , from Wells Fargo . Timna , your line is live . Please go ahead
Operator 2: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Timna Tanners from Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Timna Tanners from Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Yeah . Hey , I was going to also ask about BlueScope . And since you just addressed it , I guess I'll try another angle .
Timna Tanners: Yeah. Hey, I was going to also ask about BlueScope, and since you just addressed it, I guess I'll try another angle. I think it'd be interesting to hear how you think about downstream versus steel growth versus maybe organic projects. I know in the way past, a long time ago, there was talk of a new plate mill. Plate's really strong. Beams, I hear, are sold out. I think maybe, are there other expansion opportunities there, or are you thinking about kind of more of a downstream approach? Just any color on how you're thinking about your growth options generally would be great.
Timna Tanners: Yeah. Hey, I was going to also ask about BlueScope, and since you just addressed it, I guess I'll try another angle. I think it'd be interesting to hear how you think about downstream versus steel growth versus maybe organic projects. I know in the way past, a long time ago, there was talk of a new plate mill. Plate's really strong. Beams, I hear, are sold out. I think maybe, are there other expansion opportunities there, or are you thinking about kind of more of a downstream approach? Just any color on how you're thinking about your growth options generally would be great.
Speaker #3: But I think it'd be interesting to hear how you think about downstream versus , you know , steel growth versus maybe organic projects .
Speaker #3: I know in the way past a long time ago , there was talk of a new plate mill plates really strong beams . I hear are sold out .
Speaker #3: I think maybe, are there other expansion opportunities there, or are you thinking about kind of more of a downstream approach? So just any color on how you're thinking about your growth options generally would be great.
Speaker #1: Thank you . Timba . I think again , our , our strategic philosophy hasn't changed at all . We pursue and explore all opportunities I can't remember ever saying there might be interested in play .
Mark D. Millett: Thank you, Timna. I think, again, our strategic philosophy hasn't changed at all. We pursue and explore all opportunities. I can't remember ever saying there might be interest in plate. Larry, have you ever been interested in plate, mate?
Mark Millett: Thank you, Timna. I think, again, our strategic philosophy hasn't changed at all. We pursue and explore all opportunities. I can't remember ever saying there might be interest in plate. Larry, have you ever been interested in plate, mate?
Speaker #1: You ever been interested in Playmate?
Speaker #4: Well, the city does address some plate needs. That's part of the reason the technology was chosen. But yeah.
Barry T. Schneider: Well, Sinton does address some plate needs. That's part of the reason the technology was chosen.
Barry Schneider: Well, Sinton does address some plate needs. That's part of the reason the technology was chosen.
Mark D. Millett: Yeah.
Mark Millett: Yeah.
Speaker #1: But again , with knuckles entry there , I think that the plate market is well served . I believe our focus will be has been and will be sort of downstream , innovative ways to , to improve and bring value to the supply chain in different products that , that we're not in today .
Barry T. Schneider: Yeah.
Barry Schneider: Yeah.
Mark D. Millett: Again, with Nucor's entry there, I think that the plate market is well-served. I believe our focus has been and will be sort of downstream, innovative ways to improve and bring value to the supply chain in different products that we're not in today. Again, as you know, we're not in business just to grow, to get bigger. We like to continue our focus on sort of value add differentiating products and supply chains. The team has a myriad of opportunities that continue to get explored. We took a little bit of a hiatus given our CapEx for Sinton and Aluminum Dynamics. Now that's behind us. We will continue to explore those opportunities. In aluminum, it's phenomenal where we could go.
Mark Millett: Again, with Nucor's entry there, I think that the plate market is well-served. I believe our focus has been and will be sort of downstream, innovative ways to improve and bring value to the supply chain in different products that we're not in today. Again, as you know, we're not in business just to grow, to get bigger. We like to continue our focus on sort of value add differentiating products and supply chains.
Speaker #1: Again , as you know , we're not , we're not in business just to grow , to get bigger . We like to continue focus on sort of value add , differentiating products and supply chains and the team has a myriad of opportunities that continue to get explored and took a little bit of a hiatus , given our , our CapEx for Sinton and Aluminum dynamics .
Mark Millett: The team has a myriad of opportunities that continue to get explored. We took a little bit of a hiatus given our CapEx for Sinton and Aluminum Dynamics. Now that's behind us. We will continue to explore those opportunities. In aluminum, it's phenomenal where we could go.
Speaker #1: Now that's behind us , we will continue to , to explore those opportunities in aluminum . There is it's phenomenal . We're where we could we could go
Speaker #2: Thank you. That concludes our question and answer session. I’d like to turn the call back over to Mr. Millett for any closing remarks.
Operator 2: Thank you. That concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Millett for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. That concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Millett for any closing remarks.
Speaker #1: Well , thank you very much . Thank you for those still on the call Again , those that have supported us in the past and do so today , we will endeavor to to do our best to spend your money wisely and continue to have the best shareholder return in the steel , steel business Our team again , phenomenal job .
Mark D. Millett: Well, thank you very much. Thank you for those still on the call. Again, those that have supported us in the past and do so today, we will endeavor to do our best to spend your money wisely, and continue to have the best shareholder return in the steel business. Our team, again, phenomenal job. It's incredible what you do. You inspire me personally and just make sure you're safe. Look after each other out there. For those that help us each and every day, both customers and service providers, we can't do it without you either. Thanks for your patience with us. I know we can be tough at times, but we're doing tough, challenging things, and together we will succeed. Thank you, everybody. Appreciate your support. See you next quarter.
Mark Millett: Well, thank you very much. Thank you for those still on the call. Again, those that have supported us in the past and do so today, we will endeavor to do our best to spend your money wisely, and continue to have the best shareholder return in the steel business. Our team, again, phenomenal job. It's incredible what you do. You inspire me personally and just make sure you're safe. Look after each other out there. For those that help us each and every day, both customers and service providers, we can't do it without you either. Thanks for your patience with us. I know we can be tough at times, but we're doing tough, challenging things, and together we will succeed. Thank you, everybody. Appreciate your support. See you next quarter.
Speaker #1: It's incredible what you do. You inspire me personally, and just make sure you're safe. Look after each other out there.
Speaker #1: And for those that help us each and every day , both customers and service providers , we can't . We can't do it without you either .
Speaker #1: Thanks for your patience with us . I know we can be tough at times . But we're doing we're doing tough , challenging things and together we will .
Speaker #1: We will succeed. So thank you, everybody. I appreciate your support. See you next quarter. Oh.
Operator 2: Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation, and have a great and safe day.
Operator: Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation, and have a great and safe day.