Q4 2025 Rekor Systems Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to today's Rekor Systems, Inc. conference call. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. Before we start, I must remind you that statements made in this conference call concerning future revenues, results of operations, financial position, markets, economic conditions, product and product releases, partnerships, and any other statements that may be construed as a prediction of future performance or events are forward-looking statements.
Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to today's Rekor Systems, Inc. conference call. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. Before we start, I must remind you that statements made in this conference call concerning future revenues, results of operations, financial position, markets, economic conditions, product and product releases, partnerships, and any other statements that may be construed as a prediction of future performance or events are forward-looking statements.
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Speaker #1: To performance or events or forward-looking statements. Such statements can involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors which may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Operator: Such statements can involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors, which may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. We ask you to refer to the full disclaimers in our earnings release. You should also review a description of the risk factors contained in our annual quarterly filings with the SEC. Non-GAAP results will also be discussed on the call. The company believes the presentation of non-GAAP information provides useful supplementary data concerning the company's ongoing operations and is provided for informational purposes only. I will now turn the presentation over to Rekor CFO, Mr. Joseph Nalepa.
Operator: Such statements can involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors, which may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. We ask you to refer to the full disclaimers in our earnings release. You should also review a description of the risk factors contained in our annual quarterly filings with the SEC. Non-GAAP results will also be discussed on the call. The company believes the presentation of non-GAAP information provides useful supplementary data concerning the company's ongoing operations and is provided for informational purposes only. I will now turn the presentation over to Rekor CFO, Mr. Joseph Nalepa.
Speaker #1: We ask that you refer to the full disclaimers in our earnings release. You should also review the description of the risk factors contained in our annual and quarterly filings with the SEC.
Speaker #1: Non-GAAP results will also be discussed on the call. The company believes the presentation of non-GAAP information provides useful supplementary data concerning the company's ongoing operations and is provided for informational purposes only.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the presentation over to Rekor CFO, Mr. Joseph Nalepa.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon everyone . I'd like to start by thanking all of our investors and stakeholders who have joined us on today's call . Today , I'll walk through our financial results for the year ended December 31st , 2025 .
Joseph Nalepa: Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to start by thanking all of our investors and stakeholders who have joined us on today's call. Today, I'll walk through our financial results for the year ended December 31, 2025. We've been focusing on execution and operational efficiency and are encouraged by the progress we continue to make. During 2025, we continued to deliver top-line revenue growth while also finding efficiencies within our operations. For the year ended December 31, 2025, we recognized revenue of $48.5 million, an increase of 5% compared to revenue of $46 million in 2024. This increase represents continued growth across our public safety and urban mobility businesses. Throughout 2025, we continued to see growth in our sales pipeline and active deployments.
Joseph Nalepa: Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to start by thanking all of our investors and stakeholders who have joined us on today's call. Today, I'll walk through our financial results for the year ended December 31, 2025. We've been focusing on execution and operational efficiency and are encouraged by the progress we continue to make. During 2025, we continued to deliver top-line revenue growth while also finding efficiencies within our operations. For the year ended December 31, 2025, we recognized revenue of $48.5 million, an increase of 5% compared to revenue of $46 million in 2024. This increase represents continued growth across our public safety and urban mobility businesses. Throughout 2025, we continued to see growth in our sales pipeline and active deployments.
Speaker #2: We've been focusing on execution and operational efficiency and are encouraged by the progress we continue to make during 2025. We continued to deliver top line revenue growth while also finding efficiencies within our operations. For the year ended December 31, 2025, we recognized revenue of $48.5 million, an increase of 5% compared to revenue of $46.0 million in 2020.
Speaker #2: For this increase represents continued growth across our public safety and urban mobility businesses Throughout 2025 , we continued to see growth in our sales pipeline and active deployments As of December 31st , 2025 , our remaining performance obligations increased to 25.9 million , a nearly 80% increase from December 31st , 2020 .
Joseph Nalepa: As of 31 December 2025, our remaining performance obligations increased to $25.9 million, a nearly 80% increase from 31 December 2024, which highlights strong momentum, giving us confidence in our ability to drive growth into 2026. For the year ended 31 December 2025, recurring revenue was $23.9 million, up 6% year-over-year. This reflects our long-term strategy of expanding our recurring revenue base through software and Data as a Service subscription contracts. Adjusted margin for 2025 was 56% versus 49% in 2024. This improvement was largely driven by a greater portion of high-margin software sales relative to our service and hardware-based contracts, as well as operational efficiencies within our deployments.
Joseph Nalepa: As of 31 December 2025, our remaining performance obligations increased to $25.9 million, a nearly 80% increase from 31 December 2024, which highlights strong momentum, giving us confidence in our ability to drive growth into 2026. For the year ended 31 December 2025, recurring revenue was $23.9 million, up 6% year-over-year. This reflects our long-term strategy of expanding our recurring revenue base through software and Data as a Service subscription contracts. Adjusted margin for 2025 was 56% versus 49% in 2024. This improvement was largely driven by a greater portion of high-margin software sales relative to our service and hardware-based contracts, as well as operational efficiencies within our deployments.
Speaker #2: For which highlights strong momentum , giving us confidence in our ability to drive growth in the 2026 . For the year ended December 31st , 2025 , recurring revenue was 23.9 million , up 6% year over year .
Speaker #2: This reflects our long term strategy of expanding our recurring revenue base through software and data . As a service subscription contracts adjusted margin for 2025 was 56% versus 49% in 2020 .
Speaker #2: For . This improvement was largely driven by a greater portion of high margin software sales relative to our service and hardware based contracts .
Speaker #2: As well as operational efficiencies within our deployments . As we continue to grow , we expect margins to fluctuate over time . But the gradually stabilize as our software and data as a service businesses become a larger share of total revenue .
Joseph Nalepa: As we continue to grow, we expect margins to fluctuate over time, but to gradually stabilize as our software and Data as a Service businesses become a larger share of total revenue. As mentioned in a recent press release, we made the decision to onshore our engineering efforts to optimize our engineering operations and cost containment efforts. As a result of this decision, we recognized a non-cash asset impairment charge of $3.8 million in 2025. A key highlight this year was our continued focus on optimizing our operations. Total operating expenses, excluding depreciation, amortization, and asset impairment charges, declined 20% year over year, representing an $11.4 million reduction. These reductions were achieved across all major areas of the business and reflect continuing disciplined cost containment and a deliberate realignment of resources to support our strategy.
Joseph Nalepa: As we continue to grow, we expect margins to fluctuate over time, but to gradually stabilize as our software and Data as a Service businesses become a larger share of total revenue. As mentioned in a recent press release, we made the decision to onshore our engineering efforts to optimize our engineering operations and cost containment efforts. As a result of this decision, we recognized a non-cash asset impairment charge of $3.8 million in 2025. A key highlight this year was our continued focus on optimizing our operations. Total operating expenses, excluding depreciation, amortization, and asset impairment charges, declined 20% year over year, representing an $11.4 million reduction. These reductions were achieved across all major areas of the business and reflect continuing disciplined cost containment and a deliberate realignment of resources to support our strategy.
Speaker #2: As mentioned in a recent press release, we made the decision to onshore our engineering efforts to optimize our engineering operations and cost containment efforts.
Speaker #2: As a result of this decision . We recognized a non-cash asset impairment charge of $3.8 million in 2025 , a key highlight this year was our continued focus on optimizing our operations Total operating expenses , excluding depreciation , amortization and asset impairment charges , declined 20% year over year , representing an $11.4 million reduction .
Speaker #2: These reductions were achieved across all major areas of the business and reflect continuing disciplined cost containment and a deliberate realignment of resources to support our strategy.
Speaker #2: The combination of revenue growth and improved operational efficiency resulted in significant profitability improvements . Adjusted EBITDA loss for 2025 was $18.1 million , an improvement of $11 million , or 38% , compared to 2024 .
Joseph Nalepa: The combination of revenue growth and improved operational efficiency resulted in significant profitability improvements. Adjusted EBITDA loss for 2025 was $18.1 million, an improvement of $11 million or 38% compared to 2024. A meaningful indicator of our progress in 2025 is the trajectory of our adjusted EBITDA loss throughout the year. Our adjusted EBITDA loss in H1 2025 was $13.1 million compared to a loss of $5 million in H2 2025, demonstrating that the operational improvements and cost discipline we've implemented throughout the year are taking hold and moving us in the right direction. We are encouraged by this trend and believe it reflects the early results of our strategic realignment.
Joseph Nalepa: The combination of revenue growth and improved operational efficiency resulted in significant profitability improvements. Adjusted EBITDA loss for 2025 was $18.1 million, an improvement of $11 million or 38% compared to 2024. A meaningful indicator of our progress in 2025 is the trajectory of our adjusted EBITDA loss throughout the year. Our adjusted EBITDA loss in H1 2025 was $13.1 million compared to a loss of $5 million in H2 2025, demonstrating that the operational improvements and cost discipline we've implemented throughout the year are taking hold and moving us in the right direction. We are encouraged by this trend and believe it reflects the early results of our strategic realignment.
Speaker #2: A meaningful indicator of our progress in 2025 is the trajectory of our adjusted EBITDA loss throughout the year. Our adjusted EBITDA loss in the first half of 2025 was $13.1 million, compared to a loss of $5 million in the second half of 2025.
Speaker #2: Demonstrating that the operational improvements and cost discipline we implemented throughout the year are taking hold and moving us in the right direction. We are encouraged by this trend and believe it reflects the early results of our strategic realignment.
Speaker #2: As we continue to evaluate our operations and identify further efficiencies heading into 2026 . We do anticipate incurring one time charges in the first and second quarters , primarily related to the cancellation and restructuring of existing agreements While these charges are near-term in nature , we view them as necessary steps in building a leaner , more scalable operating structure that positions the company for improved performance and long term value creation We entered 2026 with strong momentum and remained committed to driving sustainable growth and long term shareholder value .
Joseph Nalepa: As we continue to evaluate our operations and identify further efficiencies heading into 2026, we do anticipate incurring one-time charges in Q1 and Q2, primarily related to the cancellation and restructuring of existing agreements. While these charges are near-term in nature, we view them as necessary steps in building a leaner, more scalable operating structure that positions the company for improved performance and long-term value creation. We enter 2026 with strong momentum and remain committed to driving sustainable growth and long-term shareholder value. I'm grateful for your continued support and partnership. Thank you for your attention. Robert, over to you.
Joseph Nalepa: As we continue to evaluate our operations and identify further efficiencies heading into 2026, we do anticipate incurring one-time charges in Q1 and Q2, primarily related to the cancellation and restructuring of existing agreements. While these charges are near-term in nature, we view them as necessary steps in building a leaner, more scalable operating structure that positions the company for improved performance and long-term value creation. We enter 2026 with strong momentum and remain committed to driving sustainable growth and long-term shareholder value. I'm grateful for your continued support and partnership. Thank you for your attention. Robert, over to you.
Speaker #2: I'm grateful for your continued support and partnership Thank you for your attention . Robert , over to you
Speaker #3: Thank you , Joe , and good afternoon everyone 2025 was a defining year for the company . We made a deliberate shift away from building the company of the future and refocus the organization on executing a pragmatic , profitable business model .
Robert Berman: Thank you, Joe, and good afternoon, everyone. 2025 was a defining year for the company. We made a deliberate shift away from building the company of the future and refocused the organization on executing a pragmatic, profitable business model. That shift is now clearly reflected in our results. We are a more disciplined, efficient, and resilient company, having transitioned from a development-heavy R&D-driven organization to a customer-focused business with fully productized solutions. As our right-sizing actions conclude towards the end of Q2, and the bulk of our efficiency work moves behind us, we are entering a new phase of the company, one focused on scaling. In the H2 of 2026, we expect to aggressively ramp sales execution and drive accelerated growth, supported by strong and expanding demand environment and a platform now built for scale. From a financial standpoint, we delivered solid progress.
Robert Berman: Thank you, Joe, and good afternoon, everyone. 2025 was a defining year for the company. We made a deliberate shift away from building the company of the future and refocused the organization on executing a pragmatic, profitable business model. That shift is now clearly reflected in our results. We are a more disciplined, efficient, and resilient company, having transitioned from a development-heavy R&D-driven organization to a customer-focused business with fully productized solutions. As our right-sizing actions conclude towards the end of Q2, and the bulk of our efficiency work moves behind us, we are entering a new phase of the company, one focused on scaling. In the H2 of 2026, we expect to aggressively ramp sales execution and drive accelerated growth, supported by strong and expanding demand environment and a platform now built for scale. From a financial standpoint, we delivered solid progress.
Speaker #3: That shift is now clearly reflected in our results . We are a more disciplined , efficient and resilient company . Having transitioned from a development heavy , R&D driven organization to a customer focused business with fully productized solutions As our right actions conclude towards the end of Q2 and the bulk of our efficiency work moves behind us , we are entering a new phase of the company , one focused on scaling in the back half of 2026 .
Speaker #3: We expect to aggressively ramp sales execution and drive accelerated growth, supported by a strong and expanding demand environment and a platform now built for scale.
Speaker #3: From a financial standpoint , we delivered solid progress . Revenue grew year over year despite a significant focus on efficiency . More importantly , our mix towards higher value recurring revenue and tighter cost controls drove gross margins to 56% .
Robert Berman: Revenue grew year over year despite a significant focus on efficiency. More importantly, our mix towards higher value recurring revenue and tighter cost controls drove gross margins to 56%. We reduced net loss by 49% and importantly achieved operating cash flow positivity in Q4 of 2025. Combined with meaningful improvement in adjusted EBITDA, this makes a critical inflection point and demonstrates that our model is both viable and scalable. We have already captured substantial efficiencies through our right-sizing efforts and expect additional gains as we continue to align the cost structure with the current scale of the business. That said, we want to be clear, there may be some quarter-to-quarter variability as we complete this process. The long-term trajectory, however, remains firmly intact. We are also taking a disciplined approach to innovation spend.
Robert Berman: Revenue grew year over year despite a significant focus on efficiency. More importantly, our mix towards higher value recurring revenue and tighter cost controls drove gross margins to 56%. We reduced net loss by 49% and importantly achieved operating cash flow positivity in Q4 of 2025. Combined with meaningful improvement in adjusted EBITDA, this makes a critical inflection point and demonstrates that our model is both viable and scalable. We have already captured substantial efficiencies through our right-sizing efforts and expect additional gains as we continue to align the cost structure with the current scale of the business. That said, we want to be clear, there may be some quarter-to-quarter variability as we complete this process. The long-term trajectory, however, remains firmly intact. We are also taking a disciplined approach to innovation spend.
Speaker #3: We reduced net loss by 49% and importantly , achieved operating cash flow positivity in the fourth quarter of 2025 . Combined with meaningful improvement in adjusted EBITDA This makes a critical inflection point and demonstrates that our model is both viable and scalable .
Speaker #3: We have already captured substantial efficiencies through our right efforts and expect additional gains as we continue to align the cost structure with the current scale of the business That said , we want to be clear there may be some quarter to quarter variability as we complete this process .
Speaker #3: The long term trajectory , however , remains firmly intact We are also taking a disciplined approach to innovation . Spend . We are reducing and normalizing R&D to a run rate of 7 to 10% of gross revenue by the back half of 2026 , aligning investment levels with a company of our size At the same time , we are improving development efficiency through the use of modern tooling and focusing resources on near-term customer driven priorities Operationally , the decision to onshore our engineering team is already delivering results .
Robert Berman: We are reducing and normalizing R&D to a run rate of 7% to 10% of gross revenue by the H2 of 2026, aligning investment levels with a company of our size. At the same time, we are improving development efficiency through the use of modern tooling and focusing resources on near-term customer-driven priorities. Operationally, the decision to onshore our engineering team is already delivering results. We are seeing faster development cycles, improved responsiveness, and stronger customer engagement. This is not only a cost and efficiency improvement, it enhances our competitive positioning. Between late 2021 and late 2023, we completed three acquisitions, each with distinct technologies, teams, and operating models, making integration a complex undertaking. After which, we navigated a period of leadership transition across both the board and executive teams, which added another layer of complexity. That work is now largely behind us.
Robert Berman: We are reducing and normalizing R&D to a run rate of 7% to 10% of gross revenue by the H2 of 2026, aligning investment levels with a company of our size. At the same time, we are improving development efficiency through the use of modern tooling and focusing resources on near-term customer-driven priorities. Operationally, the decision to onshore our engineering team is already delivering results. We are seeing faster development cycles, improved responsiveness, and stronger customer engagement. This is not only a cost and efficiency improvement, it enhances our competitive positioning. Between late 2021 and late 2023, we completed three acquisitions, each with distinct technologies, teams, and operating models, making integration a complex undertaking. After which, we navigated a period of leadership transition across both the board and executive teams, which added another layer of complexity. That work is now largely behind us.
Speaker #3: We are seeing faster development cycles, improved responsiveness, and stronger customer engagement. This is not only a cost and efficiency improvement; it enhances our competitive positioning.
Speaker #3: Between late 21 and late 2023 , we completed three acquisitions , each with distinct technologies , teams and operating models , making integration a complex undertaking After which , we navigated a period of leadership transition across both the board and executive teams , which added another layer of complexity That work is now largely behind us Integration is substantially complete , and we are operating on a unified platform , and the organization is now aligned , stable and focused Importantly , we continue to execute and make meaningful progress throughout this period , positioning us to fully leverage these assets as we enter a growth phase in 2026 .
Robert Berman: Integration is substantially complete, and we are operating on a unified platform, and the organization is now aligned, stable, and focused. Importantly, we continue to execute and make meaningful progress throughout this period, positioning us to fully leverage these assets as we enter a growth phase in 2026. We also launched Rekor Labs in 2025, focused on identifying synthetically created and modified media known as deepfakes. This initiative builds on technology we have been developing internally for years. Professor Sanjay Sarma has agreed to chair Rekor Labs and stepped down from parent company board to do so. In closing, we have materially strengthened the foundation of the business. We now have a more efficient cost structure, higher quality revenue base, and a clear path to sustain profitability.
Robert Berman: Integration is substantially complete, and we are operating on a unified platform, and the organization is now aligned, stable, and focused. Importantly, we continue to execute and make meaningful progress throughout this period, positioning us to fully leverage these assets as we enter a growth phase in 2026. We also launched Rekor Labs in 2025, focused on identifying synthetically created and modified media known as deepfakes. This initiative builds on technology we have been developing internally for years. Professor Sanjay Sarma has agreed to chair Rekor Labs and stepped down from parent company board to do so. In closing, we have materially strengthened the foundation of the business. We now have a more efficient cost structure, higher quality revenue base, and a clear path to sustain profitability.
Speaker #3: We also launched three core labs in 2025, focused on identifying synthetically created and modified media, known as deepfakes. This initiative builds on technology.
Speaker #3: We have been developing internally for years. Professor Sanjay Sharma has agreed to chair Record Labs and step down from the parent company board to do so.
Speaker #3: In closing , we have materially strengthened the foundation of the business . We now have a more efficient cost structure , higher quality revenue base and a clear path to sustained profitability With the heavy lifting behind us and a platform built to scale , we are entering our next phase focused on execution , growth , and value creation .
Robert Berman: With the heavy lifting behind us and a platform built to scale, we are entering our next phase focused on execution, growth, and value creation. We believe we are well-positioned to drive meaningful, scalable, long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you for your continued support. Operator, we can now turn the call and open it up for questions.
Robert Berman: With the heavy lifting behind us and a platform built to scale, we are entering our next phase focused on execution, growth, and value creation. We believe we are well-positioned to drive meaningful, scalable, long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you for your continued support. Operator, we can now turn the call and open it up for questions.
Speaker #3: We believe we are well positioned to drive meaningful, scalable, long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you for your continued support.
Speaker #3: And operator, we can now turn the call and open it up for questions.
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Speaker #4: All right . Great . Yeah . Thanks very much . And congrats on getting cash flow positive here in the fourth quarter . I guess as you look to 26 here , do you think do you expect the year to be cash flow positive .
Michael Latimore: Hi. Great. Yeah, thanks very much. Yeah, congrats on getting cash flow positive here in the Q4. I guess as you look to 2026 here, do you expect the year to be cash flow positive, maybe, you know, excluding maybe one-time items?
Michael Latimore: Hi. Great. Yeah, thanks very much. Yeah, congrats on getting cash flow positive here in the Q4. I guess as you look to 2026 here, do you expect the year to be cash flow positive, maybe, you know, excluding maybe one-time items?
Speaker #4: Maybe excluding maybe one-time items?
Speaker #3: Joe .
Robert Berman: Joe?
Robert Berman: Joe?
Speaker #5: Yeah . So without , you know , I don't want to provide specific profitability guidance , but , you know , we are encouraged by the progress we made at the end of 2025 .
Joseph Nalepa: Yeah. You know, I don't wanna provide specific profitability guidance, but, you know, we are encouraged by the progress we made at the end of 2025, and we hope to continue to, you know, build on that momentum as we enter 2026. I think you'll see some additional cost savings related to the onshoring of engineering efforts, as well as some other things that we're working on to kinda help reduce our expense base while also maintaining top-line revenue growth. You know, I do wanna be conscious that there are gonna be those one-time charges that come in as we look to restructure the business. You know, I think it all gets back to ensuring that we're running a lean operation and working towards that goal of becoming profitable.
Joseph Nalepa: Yeah. You know, I don't wanna provide specific profitability guidance, but, you know, we are encouraged by the progress we made at the end of 2025, and we hope to continue to, you know, build on that momentum as we enter 2026. I think you'll see some additional cost savings related to the onshoring of engineering efforts, as well as some other things that we're working on to kinda help reduce our expense base while also maintaining top-line revenue growth. You know, I do wanna be conscious that there are gonna be those one-time charges that come in as we look to restructure the business. You know, I think it all gets back to ensuring that we're running a lean operation and working towards that goal of becoming profitable.
Speaker #5: And we hope to continue to , you know , build on that momentum as we enter 2026 . I think you'll see some additional cost savings related to the onshoring of engineering efforts , as well as some other things that .
Speaker #2: We're working on to kind of help reduce our expense base while also maintaining top line revenue growth You know , I do want to be conscious that there are going to be those one time charges that come in as we look to restructure the business .
Speaker #2: But, you know, I think it all gets back to ensuring that we're running a lean operation and working towards that goal of becoming profitable.
Speaker #4: Yeah . Great . Okay . Sounds good . And then maybe an update on the Georgia deployment . You know , that was a big contract you guys won last year , you know , maybe talk a little bit about any deployments in the fourth quarter .
Michael Latimore: Yeah. Great. Okay. Sounds good. Maybe an update on the Georgia deployment. You know, that was a big contract you guys won last year. You know, maybe talk a little bit about any deployments in Q4. How does that kind of play out through 2026?
Michael Latimore: Yeah. Great. Okay. Sounds good. Maybe an update on the Georgia deployment. You know, that was a big contract you guys won last year. You know, maybe talk a little bit about any deployments in Q4. How does that kind of play out through 2026?
Speaker #4: How does that kind of play out through '26?
Speaker #3: Yeah. So, Mike, typically the state agencies or DOTs usually shut down between Thanksgiving and New Year's. And I'll let you do a lot of work.
Robert Berman: Yeah. Mike, typically, the state agencies or DOTs usually shut down between Thanksgiving and New Year's. They don't let you do a lot of work. Obviously around the country, depending on the weather, it may be impossible. We just started to crank things up there, probably, you know, towards the second half of Q1. We're working down there right now at a pace that's more than we've ever done in Georgia before, and hopefully it'll continue.
Robert Berman: Yeah. Mike, typically, the state agencies or DOTs usually shut down between Thanksgiving and New Year's. They don't let you do a lot of work. Obviously around the country, depending on the weather, it may be impossible. We just started to crank things up there, probably, you know, towards the second half of Q1. We're working down there right now at a pace that's more than we've ever done in Georgia before, and hopefully it'll continue.
Speaker #3: And then, obviously, around the country, depending on the weather, it made things impossible. So we just started to crank things up there.
Speaker #3: Probably, you know, towards the second half of the first quarter. And we're working down there right now at a pace that's more than we've ever done in Georgia before.
Speaker #3: And hopefully it'll continue .
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm. Right. Great. You highlighted for 2025, you know, the public safety sector growing. Can you just describe a few of the more important customers you had in 2025 for public safety?
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm. Right. Great. You highlighted for 2025, you know, the public safety sector growing. Can you just describe a few of the more important customers you had in 2025 for public safety?
Speaker #4: Great, great. Any highlights for ‘25? You highlighted, you know, the public safety sector is growing. Can you just describe a few of the more important customers you had in ‘25 for public safety? The press release.
Robert Berman: Um, uh-
Robert Berman: Um, uh-
Michael Latimore: At least that's what it said in the press release.
Michael Latimore: At least that's what it said in the press release.
Speaker #3: Yeah , we have a couple of large OEM customers . Unfortunately , that where we cannot use their name . But they've been using our our engine and software for years .
Robert Berman: Yeah. We have a couple of large OEM customers, unfortunately, that, where we cannot use their name.
Robert Berman: Yeah. We have a couple of large OEM customers, unfortunately, that, where we cannot use their name.
Michael Latimore: Okay.
Michael Latimore: Okay.
Robert Berman: They've been using our engine and software for years.
Robert Berman: They've been using our engine and software for years.
Speaker #3: And the LPR business is growing. It's picking up, and we're seeing that we still have probably one of the best engines there is, given that it operates not only in the US but in 90 other countries. So we're seeing more licensing of our software, which is where our focus is.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Robert Berman: The LPR business is growing. It's picking up, and we're seeing that. We still have probably one of the best engines there is, given that it operates, you know, not only in the US, but in 90 other countries.
Robert Berman: The LPR business is growing. It's picking up, and we're seeing that. We still have probably one of the best engines there is, given that it operates, you know, not only in the US, but in 90 other countries.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Robert Berman: We're seeing more licensing of our software, which is where our focus is.
Robert Berman: We're seeing more licensing of our software, which is where our focus is.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Speaker #3: And , you know , we're going to continue those efforts going into 26 because it's just a better business model , right . Less overhead boots on the ground , sales churn and so forth .
Robert Berman: You know, we're gonna continue those efforts going into 2026 because it's just a better business model, right? Less overhead, boots on the ground, sales churn and so forth. We're focused more on the software side of it now, which is good.
Robert Berman: You know, we're gonna continue those efforts going into 2026 because it's just a better business model, right? Less overhead, boots on the ground, sales churn and so forth. We're focused more on the software side of it now, which is good.
Speaker #3: So we're focused more on the software side of it now, which is good.
Speaker #4: Yeah . Last time for me , you know , there's been some talk about just political and regulatory resistance to Alpr technologies . How do you view that ?
Michael Latimore: Yeah. Great. Last one for me. You know, there's been some talk about just political and, I guess, regulatory resistance to ALPR technologies. How do you view that? I mean, is that prolonging sales cycles? Is that creating obstacles or is it accelerating, you know, opportunities since you have some solutions there?
Michael Latimore: Yeah. Great. Last one for me. You know, there's been some talk about just political and, I guess, regulatory resistance to ALPR technologies. How do you view that? I mean, is that prolonging sales cycles? Is that creating obstacles or is it accelerating, you know, opportunities since you have some solutions there?
Speaker #4: I mean, is that elongated sales cycles? Is that creating obstacles, or is it accelerating opportunities? Since you have some solutions there, I—
Robert Berman: You know, the majority of our software license sales are not in the law enforcement arena. You know, there are theme parks.
Robert Berman: You know, the majority of our software license sales are not in the law enforcement arena. You know, there are theme parks.
Speaker #3: You know, the majority of our software license sales are not in the law enforcement arena. You know, they're theme parks.
Speaker #3: Parking companies and others. So we don't have that issue there in law enforcement. You know, it's always been an issue.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Michael Latimore: Mm-hmm.
Robert Berman: Parking companies and others, so we don't have that issue there. In law enforcement, you know, it's always been an issue, Mike. It's not going away. We don't operate like others. We don't have data lakes. We don't sell the data to third parties. That's where you see a lot of issues. You know, we kind of stay in the background and let others battle that out, you know?
Robert Berman: Parking companies and others, so we don't have that issue there. In law enforcement, you know, it's always been an issue, Mike. It's not going away. We don't operate like others. We don't have data lakes. We don't sell the data to third parties. That's where you see a lot of issues. You know, we kind of stay in the background and let others battle that out, you know?
Speaker #3: Mike . It's not going away . But we don't operate like others . We don't have data lakes . We don't sell the data to third parties .
Speaker #3: That's where you see a lot of issues. So, you know, we kind of stay in the background and let others battle that out.
Speaker #3: You know .
Speaker #4: I got it . I guess I'll sneak one more in if that's all right . Sure . In Texas , you know , the there's a , you know , good kind of , I guess , master contract there .
Michael Latimore: I got it. I guess I'll sneak one more in, if that's all right.
Michael Latimore: I got it. I guess I'll sneak one more in, if that's all right.
Robert Berman: Sure.
Robert Berman: Sure.
Michael Latimore: In Texas, you know, there's a, you know, good kind of, I guess, master contract there, and you
Michael Latimore: In Texas, you know, there's a, you know, good kind of, I guess, master contract there, and you
Speaker #4: And you have Austin, and you’re trying to sell other big cities. Maybe update on the kind of receptivity—receptivity of other big cities to Command in Texas.
Robert Berman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Berman: Mm-hmm.
Michael Latimore: How about Austin, and you're trying to sell to other big cities. Maybe update on kind of the receptivity of other big cities to Command in Texas.
Michael Latimore: How about Austin, and you're trying to sell to other big cities. Maybe update on kind of the receptivity of other big cities to Command in Texas.
Speaker #3: Only that it's moving forward . It's a very slow grind . You know , these , these agencies do not move quickly , although we would like them to .
Robert Berman: Only that it's moving forward. It's a very slow grind. You know, these agencies do not move quickly, although we would like them to, and sometimes we're naive to think that, you know, that it was a much faster process. I do think the good news is that we're in front of them. I know we have a couple of meetings coming up, you know, later in April with a number of the districts. So there is interest, and we are in the process of working on a couple of new contracts and a couple renewals of existing contracts.
Robert Berman: Only that it's moving forward. It's a very slow grind. You know, these agencies do not move quickly, although we would like them to, and sometimes we're naive to think that, you know, that it was a much faster process. I do think the good news is that we're in front of them. I know we have a couple of meetings coming up, you know, later in April with a number of the districts. So there is interest, and we are in the process of working on a couple of new contracts and a couple renewals of existing contracts.
Speaker #3: And sometimes we're naive to think that, you know, that it was a much faster process. I do think the good news is that we're in front of them.
Speaker #3: I know we have a couple meetings coming up . You know , later in April with a number of the districts . So there is interest and we are in the process of working on a couple of new contracts and a couple renewals of existing contracts .
Speaker #3: So I think Onshoring command was a good thing for us to do because it brought us closer to the customer and it frankly , it fixed a lot of bugs that the system had that , you know , were attention wasn't being paid to it .
Robert Berman: I think onshoring Command was a good thing for us to do because it brought us closer to the customer, and frankly, it fixed a lot of bugs that the system had that attention wasn't being paid to it. We'll be able to get that to scale a lot faster now and tweak it.
Robert Berman: I think onshoring Command was a good thing for us to do because it brought us closer to the customer, and frankly, it fixed a lot of bugs that the system had that attention wasn't being paid to it. We'll be able to get that to scale a lot faster now and tweak it.
Speaker #3: So we'll be able to , to , you know , get that to scale a lot faster . Now and tweak it .
Speaker #4: Yep . Sounds good . Good luck this year .
Michael Latimore: Okay. Sounds good. Good luck this year.
Michael Latimore: Okay. Sounds good. Good luck this year.
Robert Berman: Okay. All right. Thanks, Mike.
Robert Berman: Okay. All right. Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #3: All right. Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #1: Thank you . As a reminder , that star one to be placed in the question queue . Our next question is coming from Louis De Palma from William Blair .
Michael Latimore: Thank you.
Michael Latimore: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, that's star one to be placed into question queue. Our next question is coming from Louie DiPalma from William Blair. Your line is now live.
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Speaker #1: Your line is now live
Louie DiPalma: Robert and Joe, good afternoon.
Louie DiPalma: Robert and Joe, good afternoon.
Speaker #6: And Joe , good afternoon
Speaker #3: Hey
Robert Berman: Hey.
Robert Berman: Hey.
Speaker #6: For for Robert and Joe , for both of you . You referenced the the Georgia dot $50 million contract in another geography . During the summer of 2024 , you won the 1000 plus camera contract with the Florida Dot .
Louie DiPalma: For Robert and Joe, you referenced the Georgia DOT $50 million contract. In another geography, during the summer of 2024, you won the 1,000+ camera contract with the Florida DOT. What has been the progress of the Florida rollout? Do you expect that program to generate further growth in 2026? What are the other prospects in Florida besides that particular contract? Thanks.
Louie DiPalma: For Robert and Joe, you referenced the Georgia DOT $50 million contract. In another geography, during the summer of 2024, you won the 1,000+ camera contract with the Florida DOT. What has been the progress of the Florida rollout? Do you expect that program to generate further growth in 2026? What are the other prospects in Florida besides that particular contract? Thanks.
Speaker #6: What has been the progress of the Florida rollout, and do you expect that program to generate further growth in 2026? And what are the other prospects in Florida besides that particular contract?
Speaker #6: Thanks
Speaker #3: Yeah . So Florida , it wasn't a thousand . It was it was a 150 systems . And district seven . And it was a pilot as a state is looking to move to a data as a service model for the entire state .
Robert Berman: Yeah. Florida, it wasn't 1,000, it was 150 systems in District Seven. It was a pilot as the state is looking to move to a data as a service model for the entire state. It's gone well, and we're in discussions with them now, and the program is expanding. It's not public. I can't talk about it yet, but we're making good progress down there. You know, the growth of the model and data as a service is clearly starting to scale. That's, you know, that's a good thing.
Robert Berman: Yeah. Florida, it wasn't 1,000, it was 150 systems in District Seven. It was a pilot as the state is looking to move to a data as a service model for the entire state. It's gone well, and we're in discussions with them now, and the program is expanding. It's not public. I can't talk about it yet, but we're making good progress down there. You know, the growth of the model and data as a service is clearly starting to scale. That's, you know, that's a good thing.
Speaker #3: And it's gone well . And we're in discussions with them now . And the program is expanding It's not public . I can't talk about it yet , but we're making good progress down there .
Speaker #3: You know , the the growth of the model and data as a service is , is clearly , starting to scale . So that's that's a good thing .
Speaker #3: And we're seeing that across a number of states, right?
Louie DiPalma: Great.
Louie DiPalma: Great.
Louie DiPalma: We're seeing that.
Louie DiPalma: We're seeing that.
Louie DiPalma: Thanks for-
Louie DiPalma: Thanks for-
Robert Berman: Across a number of states, right?
Robert Berman: Across a number of states, right?
Speaker #6: Yeah. And maybe the opportunity was a thousand, and your deployment was in the 100 range. Thank you for that clarification.
Louie DiPalma: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the opportunity was 1,000 and your deployment was in the hundreds. Thanks for that clarification.
Louie DiPalma: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the opportunity was 1,000 and your deployment was in the hundreds. Thanks for that clarification.
Speaker #3: Yeah , yeah , we deployed 150 systems in district seven . We have more cameras in Florida than 150 . We deployed at least I think another 50 , maybe a little bit more .
Robert Berman: Yeah. We deployed 150 systems in District Seven. We have more cameras in Florida than the 150. We deployed at least, I think, another 50, maybe a little bit more, and we're deploying now. But you know, if you look at what the apparatus that we deployed does, okay, and you look at what it can replace, yeah, there's thousands, okay, of systems that you know this technology can replace just in Florida alone, right?
Robert Berman: Yeah. We deployed 150 systems in District Seven. We have more cameras in Florida than the 150. We deployed at least, I think, another 50, maybe a little bit more, and we're deploying now. But you know, if you look at what the apparatus that we deployed does, okay, and you look at what it can replace, yeah, there's thousands, okay, of systems that you know this technology can replace just in Florida alone, right?
Speaker #3: And we're deploying now . But you know , if you look at what the apparatus that we deployed does , okay , and you look at what it can replace .
Speaker #3: Yeah , there's , there's thousands . Okay . Of systems that , you know , this technology can replace just in Florida alone , right
Louie DiPalma: Right. For the year that just concluded, 2025, did you disclose what percentage of the $49 million in revenue came from recurring revenue versus equipment revenue? What was the growth of your recurring revenue?
Louie DiPalma: Right. For the year that just concluded, 2025, did you disclose what percentage of the $49 million in revenue came from recurring revenue versus equipment revenue? What was the growth of your recurring revenue?
Speaker #6: And for the year that just concluded , 2025 , did you disclose what percentage of the 49 million in revenue came from recurring revenue versus equipment revenue ?
Speaker #6: And what was the growth of your recurring revenue?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Joe, you.
Robert Berman: Yeah. Joe, you wanna-
Robert Berman: Yeah. Joe, you wanna-
Speaker #7: Yep .
Joseph Nalepa: Yep. Yeah. It was about a 50/50 split, and we had about 6% growth in our recurring revenue year-over-year.
Joseph Nalepa: Yep. Yeah. It was about a 50/50 split, and we had about 6% growth in our recurring revenue year-over-year.
Speaker #2: Yeah . So it was , it was about a 5050 split . And we had about a 6% growth in our recurring revenue year over year
Speaker #6: Great. And should we think of, you know, that trend continuing in 2026?
Louie DiPalma: Great. Should we think of, you know, that trend continuing in 2026?
Louie DiPalma: Great. Should we think of, you know, that trend continuing in 2026?
Speaker #2: I think so. You know, I think as part of our strategy, we're working to push customers more to a recurring revenue model.
Joseph Nalepa: I think so.
Joseph Nalepa: I think so.
Louie DiPalma: Okay.
Louie DiPalma: Okay.
Louie DiPalma: You know, I think as part of our strategy, we're working to push customers more to a recurring revenue model, and then that aligns well with Data as a Service, Software as a Service. It's a little dependent on the buying power of the certain DOTs, but we do expect, as part of our strategy, to continue to push that into a recurring model.
Louie DiPalma: You know, I think as part of our strategy, we're working to push customers more to a recurring revenue model, and then that aligns well with Data as a Service, Software as a Service. It's a little dependent on the buying power of the certain DOTs, but we do expect, as part of our strategy, to continue to push that into a recurring model.
Speaker #2: And then that aligns well with data as a service, software as a service. It is a little dependent on the buying power of the certain DOTs, but we do expect as part of our strategy to continue to push that into a recurring model.
Speaker #3: I .
Speaker #6: Think thanks , Robert .
Louie DiPalma: Okay. Thanks, Robert and Joe.
Louie DiPalma: Okay. Thanks, Robert and Joe.
Speaker #3: You know , one , one way to think about it is that the look , when we when we first went to the LPR business , way back when law enforcement agencies , PDS , large and small , were not doing subscription based procurement , you know , they were they were buying hardware and software with maintenance packages .
Robert Berman: You know. Look, when we first went to the LPR business way back when, law enforcement agencies, PDs, large and small, were not doing subscription-based procurement. You know, they were buying hardware and software with maintenance packages. That's traditionally how DOTs have operated. You know, we were the pioneers. The company we acquired, SCS, was the pioneer of the concept of Data as a Service. The idea that you get what you need to be able to have the data to manage your roadways, both for planning and public safety, but you don't have to buy anything.
Robert Berman: You know. Look, when we first went to the LPR business way back when, law enforcement agencies, PDs, large and small, were not doing subscription-based procurement. You know, they were buying hardware and software with maintenance packages. That's traditionally how DOTs have operated. You know, we were the pioneers. The company we acquired, SCS, was the pioneer of the concept of Data as a Service. The idea that you get what you need to be able to have the data to manage your roadways, both for planning and public safety, but you don't have to buy anything.
Speaker #3: And that's traditionally how dots have operated . And , you know , we were the pioneers , the company we acquired SDKs was the pioneer of the concept of data as a service .
Speaker #3: So the idea that you get what you need to be able to have the data to manage your roadways , both for planning and public safety .
Speaker #3: But you don't have to buy anything . You just pay , you know , pay a company for the data and they're responsible for the hardware , the software , and the maintenance is a very appealing model .
Robert Berman: You just pay, you know, pay a company for the data, and they're responsible for the hardware, the software, and the maintenance, is a very appealing model. It's just that it takes government a little bit of time to catch on to that, but it is catching on. You know, we've got multiple states doing that now, so, you know, that's gonna continue to expand because they get, you know, they can stretch the dollars that they spend much further, right?
Robert Berman: You just pay, you know, pay a company for the data, and they're responsible for the hardware, the software, and the maintenance, is a very appealing model. It's just that it takes government a little bit of time to catch on to that, but it is catching on. You know, we've got multiple states doing that now, so, you know, that's gonna continue to expand because they get, you know, they can stretch the dollars that they spend much further, right?
Speaker #3: It's just that it takes government a little bit of time to catch on to that. But it is catching on, and, you know, we've got multiple states doing that now.
Speaker #3: So , you know , that's going to continue to to expand because they get , you know , they can stretch the dollars that they spend much further .
Speaker #3: Right
Louie DiPalma: Great. Thanks.
Louie DiPalma: Great. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Great . Thanks
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Speaker #1: I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further or closing comments.
Robert Berman: Look, everybody, thanks for your support. If you recall back during the call, you know, it was just a few years ago that we you know, completed the acquisitions of these three disparate companies. You know, we've gone through a lot, and Rome isn't built in a night, right, or a day. I think, you know, we've got the company stable. We're focused on profitability. I would encourage you to look at the H2 2025 with regard to the EBITDA loss compared to the H1 2025.
Robert Berman: Look, everybody, thanks for your support. If you recall back during the call, you know, it was just a few years ago that we you know, completed the acquisitions of these three disparate companies. You know, we've gone through a lot, and Rome isn't built in a night, right, or a day. I think, you know, we've got the company stable. We're focused on profitability. I would encourage you to look at the H2 2025 with regard to the EBITDA loss compared to the H1 2025.
Speaker #3: Look , everybody , thanks for your support . If you recall back during the call , you know it was just a few years ago that we , you completed the acquisitions of , you know , these three disparate companies and , you know , we've gone through a lot and Rome isn't built in the night , right ?
Speaker #3: Or a day . And I think , you know , we've we've got the company stable . We're focused on profitability . I would encourage you to look at the back half of 2025 with regard to the EBITDA loss compared to the first half of 2025 .
Robert Berman: I would remind you that, you know, a lot of the right sizing, cost savings, and efficiencies that we're doing have taken place here in Q1 of this year, which, you know, will probably be, you know, equal to, if not greater than what we did last year. You can look at the balance sheet, and you can do the math, and you can see that the company's headed in the right direction. In H2 of 2026 we're gonna focus on scaling, and then you'll see the company grow, but grow profitably and smartly. It's growing anyway, but growing a lot faster. Anyway, thanks everyone. Appreciate it. Take care.
Robert Berman: I would remind you that, you know, a lot of the right sizing, cost savings, and efficiencies that we're doing have taken place here in Q1 of this year, which, you know, will probably be, you know, equal to, if not greater than what we did last year. You can look at the balance sheet, and you can do the math, and you can see that the company's headed in the right direction. In H2 of 2026 we're gonna focus on scaling, and then you'll see the company grow, but grow profitably and smartly. It's growing anyway, but growing a lot faster. Anyway, thanks everyone. Appreciate it. Take care.
Speaker #3: And I would remind you that , you a lot of the right sizing and cost savings and efficiencies that we're doing have taken place here in the first quarter of this year , which will probably be , you know , equal or two , if not greater than what we did last year .
Speaker #3: So, you can look at the balance sheet and you can do the math. And you can see that the company is headed in the right direction.
Speaker #3: And the back half of 26 , we're going to focus on scale . And then you'll see the company grow but grow profitably .
Speaker #3: And smartly . So it's growing anyway . But growing a lot faster . So anyway , thanks everyone . Appreciate it . Take care .
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Robert Berman: Bye-bye.

