Q1 2026 General Motors Co Earnings Call
Operator 2: Good morning. Welcome to the General Motors Company Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. During the opening remarks, all participants will be in listen-only mode. After the opening remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. We are asking analysts to limit their questions to one and a brief follow-up. To ask a question, press star, then one on your telephone keypad to join the queue. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. As a reminder, this call is being recorded on Tuesday, 28 April 2026. I will now turn the call over to Ashish Kohli, GM's Vice President of Investor Relations.
Operator: Good morning. Welcome to the General Motors Company Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. During the opening remarks, all participants will be in listen-only mode. After the opening remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. We are asking analysts to limit their questions to one and a brief follow-up. To ask a question, press star, then one on your telephone keypad to join the queue. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. As a reminder, this call is being recorded on Tuesday, 28 April 2026. I will now turn the call over to Ashish Kohli, GM's Vice President of Investor Relations.
Ashish Kohli: Thanks, Denise. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us as we review GM's financial results for Q1 2026. Our conference call materials were issued this morning and are available on GM's investor relations website. We are also broadcasting this call via webcast. Joining us today are Mary Barra, GM's Chair and CEO, along with Paul Jacobson, GM's Executive Vice President and CFO. Susan Sheffield, President and CEO of GM Financial, will also be joining us for the Q&A portion. On today's call, management will make forward-looking statements about our expectations. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties include the factors identified in our filings with the SEC.
Ashish Kohli: Thanks, Denise. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us as we review GM's financial results for Q1 2026. Our conference call materials were issued this morning and are available on GM's investor relations website. We are also broadcasting this call via webcast. Joining us today are Mary Barra, GM's Chair and CEO, along with Paul Jacobson, GM's Executive Vice President and CFO. Susan Sheffield, President and CEO of GM Financial, will also be joining us for the Q&A portion. On today's call, management will make forward-looking statements about our expectations. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties include the factors identified in our filings with the SEC.
Ashish Kohli: Please review the safe harbor statement on the first page of our presentation, as the content of our call will be governed by this language. With that, I am delighted to turn the call over to Mary.
Ashish Kohli: Please review the safe harbor statement on the first page of our presentation, as the content of our call will be governed by this language. With that, I am delighted to turn the call over to Mary.
Speaker #2: first page of our presentation as the content of our call will be governed by this language. And with that, I'm delighted to turn the call over to Mary.
Mary Barra: Thanks, Ashish, and good morning, everyone. Once again, thanks to our strategic product portfolio and great execution by the GM team, including our dealers and suppliers, we delivered an outstanding quarter. I couldn't be more proud of the team's efforts and our results. We are continuing to execute our plan to return to 8% to 10% EBIT adjusted margins in North America for the full year. In fact, in Q1, we achieved an EBIT adjusted margin of 10.1%, including 1.5 points of benefit from the accounting adjustment resulting from the recent Supreme Court tariff decision. This nets to an 8.6% margin. Complementing our performance in GM North America was our 6th consecutive profitable quarter in China and higher year-over-year results in GMI excluding China. We're also building tremendous momentum in digital services.
Mary Barra: Thanks, Ashish, and good morning, everyone. Once again, thanks to our strategic product portfolio and great execution by the GM team, including our dealers and suppliers, we delivered an outstanding quarter. I couldn't be more proud of the team's efforts and our results. We are continuing to execute our plan to return to 8% to 10% EBIT adjusted margins in North America for the full year. In fact, in Q1, we achieved an EBIT adjusted margin of 10.1%, including 1.5 points of benefit from the accounting adjustment resulting from the recent Supreme Court tariff decision. This nets to an 8.6% margin. Complementing our performance in GM North America was our 6th consecutive profitable quarter in China and higher year-over-year results in GMI excluding China. We're also building tremendous momentum in digital services.
Speaker #3: 8.6 margin. Complementing our performance in GM North America was our sixth consecutive profitable quarter in China, and higher year-over-year results in GMI, excluding China.
Mary Barra: They are playing an increasingly important role in our success, and they will drive even stronger results in the future. If you look deeper at our results, especially in North America, you can see how the depth and breadth of our vehicle portfolio is driving the business. Following a very strong close to Q4, we began this year with lean inventory in the US, and we had planned downtime in North America during the quarter to install tooling for our next generation full-size pickups. Even with tight inventory, we continued to lead the industry in the US and Canada, and we're 2 in Mexico. We also continue to lead in full-size pickup, sales, and share with 42% of the US market. In addition, we were 1 in fleet, including commercial deliveries, and we were 2 in EVs.
Mary Barra: They are playing an increasingly important role in our success, and they will drive even stronger results in the future. If you look deeper at our results, especially in North America, you can see how the depth and breadth of our vehicle portfolio is driving the business. Following a very strong close to Q4, we began this year with lean inventory in the US, and we had planned downtime in North America during the quarter to install tooling for our next generation full-size pickups. Even with tight inventory, we continued to lead the industry in the US and Canada, and we're 2 in Mexico. We also continue to lead in full-size pickup, sales, and share with 42% of the US market. In addition, we were 1 in fleet, including commercial deliveries, and we were 2 in EVs.
Mary Barra: As we exited the quarter, our EV market share in the US was 13%, up from about 10% in December 2025, which underscores the appeal of our portfolio as the segment stabilizes. I would also like to highlight the growth of our crossover business, which is an important differentiator for GM. Since we began refreshing our lineup in 2023, crossovers have grown from just over 40% of our sales to more than 46%. We've also gained 2 full points of share in vehicles like the Chevrolet Trax and Equinox, the Buick Envista and the GMC Terrain, and the Chevrolet Traverse and GMC Acadia have become significant contributors to our profitability. We delivered these results with incentives that continue to be among the lowest in the industry for both ICE and EVs.
Mary Barra: As we exited the quarter, our EV market share in the US was 13%, up from about 10% in December 2025, which underscores the appeal of our portfolio as the segment stabilizes. I would also like to highlight the growth of our crossover business, which is an important differentiator for GM. Since we began refreshing our lineup in 2023, crossovers have grown from just over 40% of our sales to more than 46%. We've also gained 2 full points of share in vehicles like the Chevrolet Trax and Equinox, the Buick Envista and the GMC Terrain, and the Chevrolet Traverse and GMC Acadia have become significant contributors to our profitability. We delivered these results with incentives that continue to be among the lowest in the industry for both ICE and EVs.
Speaker #3: We delivered these results with incentives. We're also building tremendous momentum that continues to be among the lowest in the industry for both ICE and EVs.
Speaker #3: As we look ahead, the SARS holding steady, showroom traffic is stable, and we continue to operate with lean inventory. We began the second quarter with about 47 days of supply on dealer lots.
Mary Barra: As we look ahead, the SAR is holding steady, showroom traffic is stable, and we continue to operate with lean inventory. We began Q2 with about 47 days of supply on dealer lots. All of these winning vehicles are laying the groundwork for higher company-level profitability around the world through durable, reoccurring digital revenue streams. We are on pace to add more than 1 million OnStar subscribers in 2026, with about 30% of our existing customers choosing a premium plan. Outside of the US and Canada, we have more than 20 revenue-generating markets and regions, including Mexico, Brazil, China, South Korea, and the Middle East. Within the OnStar platform, Super Cruise is also scaling quickly.
Mary Barra: As we look ahead, the SAR is holding steady, showroom traffic is stable, and we continue to operate with lean inventory. We began Q2 with about 47 days of supply on dealer lots. All of these winning vehicles are laying the groundwork for higher company-level profitability around the world through durable, reoccurring digital revenue streams. We are on pace to add more than 1 million OnStar subscribers in 2026, with about 30% of our existing customers choosing a premium plan. Outside of the US and Canada, we have more than 20 revenue-generating markets and regions, including Mexico, Brazil, China, South Korea, and the Middle East. Within the OnStar platform, Super Cruise is also scaling quickly.
Speaker #3: All of these winning vehicles are laying the groundwork for higher company-level profitability around the world through durable, reoccurring digital revenue streams. We are on pace to add more than one million on-star subscribers in 2026, with about 30 percent of our existing customers choosing a premium plan.
Speaker #3: Outside of the US and Canada, we have more than 20 revenue-generating markets and regions, including Mexico, Brazil, China, South Korea, and the Middle East.
Speaker #3: Within the on-star platform, Super Cruise is also scaling quickly. Our customers have now driven one billion hands-free miles and our subscription performance is on pace to exceed 850,000 subscribers by the end of the year, with strong renewal trends in the 30 to 40 percent range.
Mary Barra: Our customers have now driven 1 billion hands-free miles, and our subscription performance is on pace to exceed 850,000 subscribers by the end of the year, with strong renewal trends in the 30% to 40% range. You will find that our attach rates, subscription renewals, and revenue generation compare favorably to others in the industry. The continued growth of this ecosystem, including the customer base, miles traveled, and the insights we're gaining to train our AI models, will help pave the way for our eyes-off, hands-off technology launching in 2028 on the Cadillac Escalade IQ. The Escalade IQ is just the start. We are doing something unique in the autonomous space, which is developing a system for personal vehicles that we can deploy on both ICE vehicles and EVs and scale across multiple brands and price points.
Mary Barra: Our customers have now driven 1 billion hands-free miles, and our subscription performance is on pace to exceed 850,000 subscribers by the end of the year, with strong renewal trends in the 30% to 40% range. You will find that our attach rates, subscription renewals, and revenue generation compare favorably to others in the industry. The continued growth of this ecosystem, including the customer base, miles traveled, and the insights we're gaining to train our AI models, will help pave the way for our eyes-off, hands-off technology launching in 2028 on the Cadillac Escalade IQ. The Escalade IQ is just the start. We are doing something unique in the autonomous space, which is developing a system for personal vehicles that we can deploy on both ICE vehicles and EVs and scale across multiple brands and price points.
Speaker #3: You will find that our attach rates, subscription renewals, and revenue generation compare favorably to others in the industry. The continued growth of this ecosystem including the customer base, miles traveled, and the insights we're gaining to train our AI models will help pave the way for our eyes-off, hands-off technology launching in 2028 on the Cadillac Escalade IQ.
Speaker #3: The Escalade IQ is just the start. We are doing something unique in the autonomous space, which is developing a system for personal vehicles that we can deploy on both ICE vehicles and EVs and scale across multiple brands and price points.
Speaker #3: We're stress-testing it in the digital environment capable of simulating roughly 100 years of human driving every single day. We recently took the next step and began supervised on-road testing in California and Michigan.
Mary Barra: We're stress-testing it in the digital environment capable of simulating roughly 100 years of human driving every single day. We recently took the next step and began supervised on-road testing in California and Michigan. The way we're building this technology is a reflection of how seriously we're embracing AI across the enterprise. Today, nearly 90% of the code written by our autonomy team is generated by AI. Next, let me comment on our updated EBIT-adjusted guidance, which we are raising by $500 million to a range of $13.5 to 15.5 billion to reflect the flow-through of the tariff adjustment. While our operating performance remains strong, as reflected in our excellent Q1 results, the war in Iran has raised our costs and its duration remains uncertain.
Mary Barra: We're stress-testing it in the digital environment capable of simulating roughly 100 years of human driving every single day. We recently took the next step and began supervised on-road testing in California and Michigan. The way we're building this technology is a reflection of how seriously we're embracing AI across the enterprise. Today, nearly 90% of the code written by our autonomy team is generated by AI. Next, let me comment on our updated EBIT-adjusted guidance, which we are raising by $500 million to a range of $13.5 to 15.5 billion to reflect the flow-through of the tariff adjustment. While our operating performance remains strong, as reflected in our excellent Q1 results, the war in Iran has raised our costs and its duration remains uncertain.
Speaker #3: The way we're building this technology is a reflection of how seriously we're embracing AI across the enterprise. Today, nearly 90 percent of the code written by our autonomy team is generated by AI.
Speaker #3: Next, let me comment on our updated EBIT-adjusted guidance, which we are raising by $500 million to a range of 13.5 billion to 15.5 billion to reflect the flow-through of the tariff adjustment.
Speaker #3: While our operating performance remains strong, as reflected in our excellent first-quarter results, the war in Iran has raised our costs, and it's duration remains uncertain.
Speaker #3: We are working to offset these cost pressures by reducing spending in other areas and by continuing to find efficiencies across the business. But we believe it's prudent to wait and see how events unfold before we make any further changes to guidance.
Mary Barra: We are working to offset these cost pressures by reducing spending in other areas and by continuing to find efficiencies across the business. We believe it's prudent to wait and see how events unfold before we make any further changes to guidance. As we move forward, I'm confident that our portfolio, production, inventory and incentive discipline, balance sheet strength, and free cash flow generation will continue to differentiate GM. With that, I'll ask Paul to take you deeper into the quarter, and then we'll move to Q&A.
Mary Barra: We are working to offset these cost pressures by reducing spending in other areas and by continuing to find efficiencies across the business. We believe it's prudent to wait and see how events unfold before we make any further changes to guidance. As we move forward, I'm confident that our portfolio, production, inventory and incentive discipline, balance sheet strength, and free cash flow generation will continue to differentiate GM. With that, I'll ask Paul to take you deeper into the quarter, and then we'll move to Q&A.
Speaker #3: As we move forward, I'm confident that our portfolio, production, inventory, and incentive discipline balance sheet strength and free cash flow generation will continue to differentiate GM.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll ask Paul to take you deeper into the quarter, and then we'll move to Q&A.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Mary, and we appreciate everyone joining us this morning. The GM team delivered another outstanding quarter. Thanks to their hard work and strong execution, Q1 EBIT-adjusted was $4.3 billion, surpassing expectations even after excluding the $0.5 billion tariff adjustment.
Paul Jacobson: Thank you, Mary. We appreciate everyone joining us this morning. The GM team delivered another outstanding quarter. Thanks to their hard work and strong execution, Q1 EBIT adjusted was $4.3 billion, surpassing expectations even after excluding the $0.5 billion tariff adjustment. Once again, we demonstrated discipline in our approach to both pricing and inventory. In Q1, our US incentive spend per vehicle as a percentage of MSRP remained more than 2 points below the industry average. US dealer inventory ended Q1 at 516,000 units, down 6% year-over-year overall and down 9% for full-size pickups, even against the difficult comparison created by outsized pre-tariff March deliveries last year. While we further strengthened our leadership in US full-size pickups this Q1, leaner inventory constrained retail sales.
Paul Jacobson: Thank you, Mary. We appreciate everyone joining us this morning. The GM team delivered another outstanding quarter. Thanks to their hard work and strong execution, Q1 EBIT adjusted was $4.3 billion, surpassing expectations even after excluding the $0.5 billion tariff adjustment. Once again, we demonstrated discipline in our approach to both pricing and inventory. In Q1, our US incentive spend per vehicle as a percentage of MSRP remained more than 2 points below the industry average. US dealer inventory ended Q1 at 516,000 units, down 6% year-over-year overall and down 9% for full-size pickups, even against the difficult comparison created by outsized pre-tariff March deliveries last year. While we further strengthened our leadership in US full-size pickups this Q1, leaner inventory constrained retail sales.
Speaker #1: Once again, we demonstrated discipline in our approach to both pricing and inventory. In the first quarter, our US incentive spend per vehicle was a percentage of MSRP remained more than two points below the industry average.
Speaker #1: US dealer inventory ended the quarter at 516,000 units, down 6 percent year over year overall and down 9 percent for full-size pickups. Even against the difficult comparison created by outsized pre-tariff March deliveries last year.
Speaker #1: While we further strengthened our leadership in U.S. full-size pickups this quarter, leaner inventory constrained retail sales. Looking ahead, we are working to increase inventory levels of key products and believe that we can take this higher over the next several quarters, while being mindful of the broader demand environment.
Paul Jacobson: Looking ahead, we are working to increase inventory levels of key products and believe that we can take this higher over the next several quarters while being mindful of the broader demand environment. Let me now provide more details on our strong Q1 results. For the total company, revenue was down year-over-year by approximately $400 million in Q1, as expected, driven primarily by lower EV wholesale volumes. ICE wholesales were flat year-over-year, with higher GMI volumes being offset by lower North American volumes, which were constrained by the end of production of certain Cadillac crossovers, lower imported volumes from Korea, and full-size pickup downtime. As I mentioned earlier, our Q1 EBIT adjusted came in better than our expectations, driven by solid execution across all of the businesses and good expense management.
Paul Jacobson: Looking ahead, we are working to increase inventory levels of key products and believe that we can take this higher over the next several quarters while being mindful of the broader demand environment. Let me now provide more details on our strong Q1 results. For the total company, revenue was down year-over-year by approximately $400 million in Q1, as expected, driven primarily by lower EV wholesale volumes. ICE wholesales were flat year-over-year, with higher GMI volumes being offset by lower North American volumes, which were constrained by the end of production of certain Cadillac crossovers, lower imported volumes from Korea, and full-size pickup downtime. As I mentioned earlier, our Q1 EBIT adjusted came in better than our expectations, driven by solid execution across all of the businesses and good expense management.
Speaker #1: Let me now provide more details on our strong first-quarter results. For the total company, revenue was down year over year by approximately $400 million in the first quarter.
Speaker #1: As expected, driven primarily by lower EV wholesale volumes. ICE wholesales were flat year over year, with higher GMI volumes being offset by lower North American volumes.
Speaker #1: Which were constrained by the end of production of certain Cadillac crossovers, lower imported volumes from Korea, and full-size pickup downtime. As I mentioned earlier, our Q1 EBIT adjusted came in better than our expectations, driven by solid execution across all of the businesses and good expense management.
Speaker #1: Year over year, Q1 EBIT adjusted was up approximately 750 million dollars, driven by the IEPA tariff adjustment, lower EV losses, and FX benefit, lower warranty expense, and emissions-related regulatory savings.
Paul Jacobson: Year over year, Q1 EBIT adjusted was up approximately $750 million, driven by the IEEPA tariff adjustment, lower EV losses, an FX benefit, lower warranty expense, and emissions-related regulatory savings. These tailwinds were partially offset by a full quarter of tariffs. Let's expand on a couple of these items. In Q1, we incurred $200 million of incremental gross tariff costs, including the tariff adjustment, compared to minimal tariff costs last year. EV losses were down several hundred million dollars year over year in Q1, driven by lower volumes, manufacturing efficiencies, and lower fixed costs. On warranty, we continue to expect a year over year tailwind of $1 billion, with Q1 results improving roughly $200 million versus the prior year.
Paul Jacobson: Year over year, Q1 EBIT adjusted was up approximately $750 million, driven by the IEEPA tariff adjustment, lower EV losses, an FX benefit, lower warranty expense, and emissions-related regulatory savings. These tailwinds were partially offset by a full quarter of tariffs. Let's expand on a couple of these items. In Q1, we incurred $200 million of incremental gross tariff costs, including the tariff adjustment, compared to minimal tariff costs last year. EV losses were down several hundred million dollars year over year in Q1, driven by lower volumes, manufacturing efficiencies, and lower fixed costs. On warranty, we continue to expect a year over year tailwind of $1 billion, with Q1 results improving roughly $200 million versus the prior year.
Speaker #1: These tailwinds were partially offset by a full quarter of tariffs. Let's expand on a couple of these items. In the first quarter, we incurred $200 million of incremental gross tariff costs, including the tariff adjustment, compared to minimal tariff costs last year.
Speaker #1: EV losses were down several hundred million dollars year over year in the first quarter, driven by lower volumes, manufacturing efficiencies, and lower fixed costs.
Speaker #1: On warranty, we continued to expect a year-over-year tailwind of $1 billion with first-quarter results improving roughly 200 million dollars versus the prior year. Q1 results included $400 million of lower warranty liability reserve adjustments, partially offset by higher warranty rate accruals on new vehicle sales.
Paul Jacobson: Q1 results included $400 million of lower warranty liability reserve adjustments, partially offset by higher warranty rate accruals on new vehicle sales. We continue to pursue a comprehensive, multi-pronged approach to reduce our warranty expenses, from product development and current production all the way to repairs at our dealers. Let's turn next to an update on our EV charges. Last year, as you know, we reassessed our EV capacity and manufacturing footprint to better align with softer demand and elimination of US tax incentives. As previously indicated, we are transitioning Orion assembly from EV to ICE production and resolving associated supplier contracts. With the exception of the BrightDrop EV van, we have not recorded impairments to our current EV portfolio. Our focus remains on improving EV profitability and scaling our business as market adoption grows, albeit at a slower expected pace than we had previously seen.
Paul Jacobson: Q1 results included $400 million of lower warranty liability reserve adjustments, partially offset by higher warranty rate accruals on new vehicle sales. We continue to pursue a comprehensive, multi-pronged approach to reduce our warranty expenses, from product development and current production all the way to repairs at our dealers. Let's turn next to an update on our EV charges. Last year, as you know, we reassessed our EV capacity and manufacturing footprint to better align with softer demand and elimination of US tax incentives. As previously indicated, we are transitioning Orion assembly from EV to ICE production and resolving associated supplier contracts. With the exception of the BrightDrop EV van, we have not recorded impairments to our current EV portfolio. Our focus remains on improving EV profitability and scaling our business as market adoption grows, albeit at a slower expected pace than we had previously seen.
Speaker #1: We continue to pursue a comprehensive, multi-pronged approach to reduce our warranty expenses, from product development and current production all the way to repairs at our dealers.
Speaker #1: Let's turn next to an update on our EV charges. Last year, as you know, we reassessed our EV capacity and manufacturing footprint to better align with softer demand and elimination of US tax incentives.
Speaker #1: As previously indicated, we are transitioning Orion Assembly from EV to ICE production and resolving associated supplier contracts. With the exception of the BrightDrop EV van, we have not recorded impairments to our current EV portfolio.
Speaker #1: Our focus remains on improving EV profitability and scaling our business as market adoption grows, albeit at a slower expected pace than we had previously seen.
Speaker #1: In the second half of 2025, GM recorded a total of 7.6 billion dollars in EV-related charges. This breaks down into 4.6 billion dollars of estimated cash charges and $3 billion in non-cash impairments.
Paul Jacobson: In H2 2025, GM recorded a total of $7.6 billion in EV-related charges. This breaks down into $4.6 billion of estimated cash charges and $3 billion in non-cash impairments. In Q1, we took an additional $1.1 billion in EV charges, driven mainly by contract cancellations and supplier commercial claims. We expect about $1 billion of this will have a future cash impact. We're moving quickly to finalize claims. To date, we've already recorded around 90% of the expected total supplier commercial claim costs, and we anticipate reaching agreements in principle on most of the remainder during Q2. Separately, we continue to work expeditiously through rightsizing our battery supply chain with our joint venture partners.
Paul Jacobson: In H2 2025, GM recorded a total of $7.6 billion in EV-related charges. This breaks down into $4.6 billion of estimated cash charges and $3 billion in non-cash impairments. In Q1, we took an additional $1.1 billion in EV charges, driven mainly by contract cancellations and supplier commercial claims. We expect about $1 billion of this will have a future cash impact. We're moving quickly to finalize claims. To date, we've already recorded around 90% of the expected total supplier commercial claim costs, and we anticipate reaching agreements in principle on most of the remainder during Q2. Separately, we continue to work expeditiously through rightsizing our battery supply chain with our joint venture partners.
Speaker #1: In the first quarter, we took an additional 1.1 billion dollars in EV charges, driven mainly by contract cancellations and supplier commercial claims. We expect about $1 billion of this will have a future cash impact.
Speaker #1: We're moving quickly to finalize claims. To date, we've already recorded around 90 percent of the expected total supplier commercial claim costs, and we anticipate reaching agreements in principle on most of the remainder during the second quarter.
Speaker #1: Separately, we continue to work expeditiously through right-sizing our battery supply chain with our joint venture partners. Of the total $5.6 billion in EV-related cash charges recorded since the second half of 2025, $2.6 billion has been paid as of March 31.
Paul Jacobson: Of the total $5.6 billion in EV-related cash charges recorded since H2 2025, $2.6 billion has been paid as of 31 March. In April, we've already paid an additional $600 million. We continue to expect most of the remaining cash flows to occur in 2026. We remain steadfast in our desire to get these claims resolved quickly and fairly for our business partners and our shareholders. Now let's turn to a regional perspective. In North America, Q1 EBIT adjusted was $3.7 billion with a 10.1% margin, including an approximately 1.5 point benefit from the tariff adjustment, which nets to 8.6%. We're off to a terrific start to deliver a North American margin in the 8% to 10% range for the full year.
Paul Jacobson: Of the total $5.6 billion in EV-related cash charges recorded since H2 2025, $2.6 billion has been paid as of 31 March. In April, we've already paid an additional $600 million. We continue to expect most of the remaining cash flows to occur in 2026. We remain steadfast in our desire to get these claims resolved quickly and fairly for our business partners and our shareholders. Now let's turn to a regional perspective. In North America, Q1 EBIT adjusted was $3.7 billion with a 10.1% margin, including an approximately 1.5 point benefit from the tariff adjustment, which nets to 8.6%. We're off to a terrific start to deliver a North American margin in the 8% to 10% range for the full year.
Speaker #1: In April, we've already paid an additional $600 million and we continue to expect most of the remaining cash flows to occur in 2026. We remain steadfast in our desire to get these claims resolved quickly and fairly for our business partners and our shareholders.
Speaker #1: Now let's turn to a regional perspective. In North America, Q1 EBIT adjusted was 3.7 billion dollars with a 10.1 percent margin. Including an approximately one and a half point benefit from the tariff adjustment, which nets to 8.6 percent.
Speaker #1: We're off to a terrific start to deliver a North American margin in the 8 to 10 percent range for the full year. Excluding the plant sale gain, China equity income was $100 million.
Paul Jacobson: Excluding the plant sale gain, China equity income was $100 million. This shows ongoing resiliency from our prior restructuring, as well as disciplined production and inventory management in the face of softer macroeconomic conditions. GM International, excluding China equity income, delivered approximately $40 million in EBIT adjusted despite the Iran conflict disruptions in the latter part of the quarter. We have been and will continue to divert some full-size SUVs and pickups from the Middle East back to North America, helping to alleviate low domestic inventory levels. GM Financial continued its stable performance, delivering EBT adjusted of $700 million for the quarter. Now let's look ahead to 2026 guidance. While the US economy has been resilient, we haven't seen any material changes to demand or mix thus far. There remains considerable uncertainty, therefore we want to be prudent as we think about the future.
Paul Jacobson: Excluding the plant sale gain, China equity income was $100 million. This shows ongoing resiliency from our prior restructuring, as well as disciplined production and inventory management in the face of softer macroeconomic conditions. GM International, excluding China equity income, delivered approximately $40 million in EBIT adjusted despite the Iran conflict disruptions in the latter part of the quarter. We have been and will continue to divert some full-size SUVs and pickups from the Middle East back to North America, helping to alleviate low domestic inventory levels. GM Financial continued its stable performance, delivering EBT adjusted of $700 million for the quarter. Now let's look ahead to 2026 guidance. While the US economy has been resilient, we haven't seen any material changes to demand or mix thus far. There remains considerable uncertainty, therefore we want to be prudent as we think about the future.
Speaker #1: This shows ongoing resiliency from our prior restructuring, as well as disciplined production and inventory management in the face of softer macroeconomic conditions. GM International, excluding China equity income, delivered approximately $40 million in EBIT adjusted despite the Iran conflict disruptions in the latter part of the quarter.
Speaker #1: We have been and will continue to divert some full-size SUVs and pickups from the Middle East back to North America. Helping to alleviate low domestic inventory levels.
Speaker #1: GM Financial continued its stable performance, delivering EBIT adjusted of $700 million for the quarter. Now let's look ahead to 2026 guidance. While the US economy has been resilient, we haven't seen any material changes to demand or mix thus far.
Speaker #1: There remains considerable uncertainty, and therefore we want to be prudent as we think about the future. Based on what we know today and assuming the SAR remains in the low 16 million unit range, we are raising our overall EBIT adjusted guidance to 13 and a half to 15 and a half billion dollars, up from 13 to 15 billion dollars.
Paul Jacobson: Based on what we know today, and assuming the SAAR remains in the low 16 million unit range, we are raising our overall EBIT adjusted guidance to $13.5 billion to $15.5 billion, up from $13 billion to $15 billion. We are raising our EPS diluted adjusted guidance to $11.50 to $13.50 per share, up from $11 to $13. While our execution and discipline helped drive Q1 outperformance, we now expect incremental commodity and freight costs versus our original guidance. At the same time, our FX outlook has improved from a small headwind to neutral for the full year. As a result of these changes, we are increasing our full year guidance for year-over-year commodity inflation, including logistics and higher DRAM costs to $1.5 billion to $2 billion.
Paul Jacobson: Based on what we know today, and assuming the SAAR remains in the low 16 million unit range, we are raising our overall EBIT adjusted guidance to $13.5 billion to $15.5 billion, up from $13 billion to $15 billion. We are raising our EPS diluted adjusted guidance to $11.50 to $13.50 per share, up from $11 to $13. While our execution and discipline helped drive Q1 outperformance, we now expect incremental commodity and freight costs versus our original guidance. At the same time, our FX outlook has improved from a small headwind to neutral for the full year. As a result of these changes, we are increasing our full year guidance for year-over-year commodity inflation, including logistics and higher DRAM costs to $1.5 billion to $2 billion.
Speaker #1: Likewise, we are raising our EPS diluted adjusted guidance to 1150 to 13 dollars and 50 cents per share, up from 11 dollars to 13 dollars.
Speaker #1: While our execution and discipline help drive first quarter outperformance, we now expect incremental commodity and freight costs versus our original guidance. At the same time, our FX outlook has improved from a small headwind to neutral for the full year.
Speaker #1: As a result of these changes, we are increasing our full-year guidance for year-over-year commodity inflation, including logistics and higher DRAM costs to 1.5 to 2 billion dollars.
Speaker #1: The incremental $500 million is expected to be more or less equally weighted across the remaining three quarters. In light of that, we're continuing to take proactive steps to ensure that we are efficiently allocating our resources and are ready to quickly adjust as needed.
Paul Jacobson: The incremental $500 million is expected to be more or less equally weighted across the remaining three quarters. In light of that, we're continuing to take proactive steps to ensure that we are efficiently allocating our resources and are ready to quickly adjust as needed. Meanwhile, our gross tariff costs are now expected to be $2.5 to 3.5 billion for the year, down from our original guidance of $3 to 4 billion because of the tariff adjustment we took in Q1. We expect 2025 self-help offsets to continue in 2026 and are pursuing additional opportunities to further mitigate these costs. Relative to our international regions, we expect China to remain profitable and to deliver results consistent with 2025.
Paul Jacobson: The incremental $500 million is expected to be more or less equally weighted across the remaining three quarters. In light of that, we're continuing to take proactive steps to ensure that we are efficiently allocating our resources and are ready to quickly adjust as needed. Meanwhile, our gross tariff costs are now expected to be $2.5 to 3.5 billion for the year, down from our original guidance of $3 to 4 billion because of the tariff adjustment we took in Q1. We expect 2025 self-help offsets to continue in 2026 and are pursuing additional opportunities to further mitigate these costs. Relative to our international regions, we expect China to remain profitable and to deliver results consistent with 2025.
Speaker #1: Meanwhile, our gross tariff costs are now expected to be two and a half to three and a half billion dollars for the year, down from our original guidance of three to four billion because of the tariff adjustment we took in Q1.
Speaker #1: We expect 2025 self-help offsets to continue in 2026 and are pursuing additional opportunities to further mitigate these costs. Relative to our international regions, we expect China to remain profitable and to deliver results consistent with 2025.
Speaker #1: However, we anticipate some softness in our international operations outside of China due to the impact of the conflict in Iran on Middle East wholesales, in particular.
Paul Jacobson: However, we anticipate some softness in our international operations outside of China due to the impact of the conflict in Iran on Middle East wholesales in particular. There is no change to our other 2026 key guidance assumptions. On price, we continue to expect to be flat up 0.5% benefiting from model year 2026 price increases. ICE volumes are expected to be flat to modestly up, though production is constrained due to the major refresh on full-size pickups, as well as the end of production of the Cadillac XT6. For EVs, we expect volumes to be lower as the market shows early signs of stabilizing around 6% of US industry sales. We continue to expect a benefit of $1 billion to $1.5 billion for the calendar year as we rightsize our EV capacity and run at substantially lower EV wholesale volumes.
Paul Jacobson: However, we anticipate some softness in our international operations outside of China due to the impact of the conflict in Iran on Middle East wholesales in particular. There is no change to our other 2026 key guidance assumptions. On price, we continue to expect to be flat up 0.5% benefiting from model year 2026 price increases. ICE volumes are expected to be flat to modestly up, though production is constrained due to the major refresh on full-size pickups, as well as the end of production of the Cadillac XT6. For EVs, we expect volumes to be lower as the market shows early signs of stabilizing around 6% of US industry sales. We continue to expect a benefit of $1 billion to $1.5 billion for the calendar year as we rightsize our EV capacity and run at substantially lower EV wholesale volumes.
Speaker #1: There is no change to our other 2026 key guidance assumptions. On price, we continue to expect to be flat up half a percent benefiting from model year 2026 price increases.
Speaker #1: ICE volumes are expected to be flat to modestly up, though production is constrained due to the major refresh on full-size pickups, as well as the end-of-production of the Cadillac XT6.
Speaker #1: For EVs, we expect volumes to be lower as the market shows early signs of stabilizing around 6 percent of US industry sales. We continue to expect a benefit of one to one and a half billion dollars for the calendar year as we right-size our EV capacity and run it substantially lower EV wholesale volumes.
Speaker #1: The production pause at Ultium cells means lower benefits from production tax credits flowing through material costs, but this is largely offset by positive inventory adjustments from lower cell inventory levels.
Paul Jacobson: The production pause at Ultium Cells means lower benefits from production tax credits flowing through material costs, but this is largely offset by positive inventory adjustments from lower cell inventory levels. On regulatory costs, we continue to expect a $500 to 750 million tailwind year over year. The endangerment finding repeal in February was already assumed in our plan. GM Financial continues to expect EBT adjusted in the $2.5 to 3 billion range, including accelerated depreciation on its EV lease portfolio. As part of our disciplined risk management, GM Financial regularly evaluates the estimated residual values and proactively adjusts depreciation accordingly. We are maintaining our adjusted auto free cash flow guide of $9 to 11 billion with a heavier weighting to the H2. Note that this guidance excludes the IEEPA tariff refund given uncertainty around payment timing.
Paul Jacobson: The production pause at Ultium Cells means lower benefits from production tax credits flowing through material costs, but this is largely offset by positive inventory adjustments from lower cell inventory levels. On regulatory costs, we continue to expect a $500 to 750 million tailwind year over year. The endangerment finding repeal in February was already assumed in our plan. GM Financial continues to expect EBT adjusted in the $2.5 to 3 billion range, including accelerated depreciation on its EV lease portfolio. As part of our disciplined risk management, GM Financial regularly evaluates the estimated residual values and proactively adjusts depreciation accordingly. We are maintaining our adjusted auto free cash flow guide of $9 to 11 billion with a heavier weighting to the H2. Note that this guidance excludes the IEEPA tariff refund given uncertainty around payment timing.
Speaker #1: On regulatory costs, we continue to expect $500 to $750 million tailwind year over year. The endangerment finding repeal in February was already assumed in our plan.
Speaker #1: GM Financial continues to expect EBIT adjusted in the two and a half to three billion dollar range, including accelerated depreciation on its EV lease portfolio.
Speaker #1: As part of our disciplined risk management, GM Financial regularly evaluates the estimated residual values and proactively adjusts depreciation accordingly. We are maintaining our adjusted auto free cash flow guide of $9 to $11 billion, with a heavier weighting to the second half.
Speaker #1: Note that this guidance excludes the IEPA tariff refund given uncertainty around payment timing. Our capital allocation policy remains unchanged. We are committed to investing in the business, maintaining a robust balance sheet, and returning the remainder to shareholders.
Paul Jacobson: Our capital allocation policy remains unchanged. We are committed to investing in the business, maintaining a robust balance sheet, and returning the remainder to shareholders. We believe that repurchasing GM stock at the current valuation remains one of the most effective ways to deploy capital and create long-term value for our shareholders. In Q1, in addition to distributing $164 million in dividends, we made $800 million in open market stock repurchases, retiring approximately 11 million additional shares at an average price of $75.02 per share. We ended Q1 with $19 billion of cash and $5.5 billion remaining on our share repurchase authorization. Before I open the call for Q&A, I want to highlight our OnStar digital service business.
Paul Jacobson: Our capital allocation policy remains unchanged. We are committed to investing in the business, maintaining a robust balance sheet, and returning the remainder to shareholders. We believe that repurchasing GM stock at the current valuation remains one of the most effective ways to deploy capital and create long-term value for our shareholders. In Q1, in addition to distributing $164 million in dividends, we made $800 million in open market stock repurchases, retiring approximately 11 million additional shares at an average price of $75.02 per share. We ended Q1 with $19 billion of cash and $5.5 billion remaining on our share repurchase authorization. Before I open the call for Q&A, I want to highlight our OnStar digital service business.
Speaker #1: We believe that repurchasing GM stock at the current valuation remains one of the most effective ways to deploy capital and create long-term value for our shareholders.
Speaker #1: In Q1, in addition to distributing $164 million in dividends, we made $800 million in open market stock repurchases. Retiring approximately $11 million additional shares at an average price of $75.02 per share.
Speaker #1: We ended Q1 with $19 billion of cash and $5.5 billion remaining on our share repurchase authorization. Before I open the call for Q&A, I want to highlight our OnStar digital service business.
Speaker #1: This includes Super Cruise, but also a broader suite of connected services that we highlighted earlier in the quarter. It's an underappreciated asset that is growing and margin accretive.
Paul Jacobson: This includes Super Cruise, but also a broader suite of connected services that we highlighted earlier in the quarter. It's an underappreciated asset that is growing and margin accretive. In Q1, we saw recognized revenue of over $750 million, up over 20% year over year. For the calendar year, we expect $3.1 billion of recognized revenue, up 15% year over year. We are on track to reach 13 million subscribers by the end of 2026, up by 1 million year over year, with a monthly average revenue per subscriber of around $20. Those subscribers are driving ongoing deferred revenue growth as well. In Q1, the deferred revenue balance ended at $5.8 billion, up $2 billion or over 50% year over year.
Paul Jacobson: This includes Super Cruise, but also a broader suite of connected services that we highlighted earlier in the quarter. It's an underappreciated asset that is growing and margin accretive. In Q1, we saw recognized revenue of over $750 million, up over 20% year over year. For the calendar year, we expect $3.1 billion of recognized revenue, up 15% year over year. We are on track to reach 13 million subscribers by the end of 2026, up by 1 million year over year, with a monthly average revenue per subscriber of around $20. Those subscribers are driving ongoing deferred revenue growth as well. In Q1, the deferred revenue balance ended at $5.8 billion, up $2 billion or over 50% year over year.
Speaker #1: In Q1, we saw recognized revenue of over $750 million, up over 20 percent year over year. For the calendar year, we expect $3.1 billion of recognized revenue, up 15 percent year over year.
Speaker #1: We are on track to reach 13 million subscribers by the end of 2026, up by 1 million year over year, with a monthly average revenue per subscriber of around $20.
Speaker #1: Those subscribers are driving ongoing deferred revenue growth as well. In Q1, the deferred revenue balance ended at $5.8 billion, up $2 billion—over 50 percent year over year.
Speaker #1: For the calendar year, we expect deferred revenue to approach $7.5 billion up more than 35 percent year over year. In conclusion, I have tremendous confidence in the GM team's ability to successfully navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape.
Paul Jacobson: For the calendar year, we expect deferred revenue to approach seven and a half billion dollars, up more than 35% year over year. In conclusion, I have tremendous confidence in the GM team's ability to successfully navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape. Our broad ICE and EV portfolios remain key competitive advantages versus our peers, and our disciplined approach to inventory and incentives keep us agile. Just like we've done with other macro headwinds, we are proactively planning for a range of potential outcomes. We are working to identify additional profit improvement opportunities and have begun taking initial no regret steps to moderate spending. As events continue to unfold, we will remain flexible and execute the right playbook to optimize profitability, maximize free cash flow, and continue to deliver strong returns for our shareholders. Thank you for your continued support.
Paul Jacobson: For the calendar year, we expect deferred revenue to approach seven and a half billion dollars, up more than 35% year over year. In conclusion, I have tremendous confidence in the GM team's ability to successfully navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape. Our broad ICE and EV portfolios remain key competitive advantages versus our peers, and our disciplined approach to inventory and incentives keep us agile. Just like we've done with other macro headwinds, we are proactively planning for a range of potential outcomes. We are working to identify additional profit improvement opportunities and have begun taking initial no regret steps to moderate spending. As events continue to unfold, we will remain flexible and execute the right playbook to optimize profitability, maximize free cash flow, and continue to deliver strong returns for our shareholders. Thank you for your continued support.
Speaker #1: Our broad ICE and EV portfolios remain key competitive advantages versus our peers, and our disciplined approach to inventory and incentives keep us agile. Just like we've done with other macro headwinds, we are proactively planning for a range of potential outcomes.
Speaker #1: We are working to identify additional profit improvement opportunities, and have begun taking initial no-regret steps to moderate spending. As events continue to unfold, we will remain flexible and execute the right playbook to optimize profitability, maximize free cash flow, and continue to deliver strong returns for our shareholders.
Speaker #1: Thank you for your continued support, and with that, we can now begin our Q&A portion of the call. Thank you. As a reminder to analysts, we are asking that you limit your questions to one and a brief follow-up so that we may get to everyone on the call.
Paul Jacobson: With that, we can now begin our Q&A portion of the call.
Paul Jacobson: With that, we can now begin our Q&A portion of the call.
Operator 2: Thank you. As a reminder to analysts, we are asking that you limit your questions to one and a brief follow-up so that we may get to everyone on the call. To ask a question, press star then one on your telephone keypad to join the queue. To withdraw your question, press star then two. Our first question comes from Itay Michaeli with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder to analysts, we are asking that you limit your questions to one and a brief follow-up so that we may get to everyone on the call. To ask a question, press star then one on your telephone keypad to join the queue. To withdraw your question, press star then two. Our first question comes from Itay Michaeli with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: To ask a question, press star, then one on your telephone keypad to join the queue. To withdraw your question, press star, then two. Our first question comes from Eti Michaeli with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Itay Michaeli: Great, thank you. Good morning, everybody. Maybe just to start, Paul, just a clarification on the guidance. Can you talk about the offsets from a cost perspective or otherwise to the higher commodity inflation that's allowing you to kind of, you know, raise the guidance outside of the IEEPA, of course?
Speaker #2: Great, thank you. Good morning, everybody. Maybe just to start—Paul, just a clarification on the guidance. Can you talk about the offsets, from a cost perspective or otherwise, to the higher commodity inflation that's allowing you to kind of raise the guidance?
Itay Michaeli: Great, thank you. Good morning, everybody. Maybe just to start, Paul, just a clarification on the guidance. Can you talk about the offsets from a cost perspective or otherwise to the higher commodity inflation that's allowing you to kind of, you know, raise the guidance outside of the IEEPA, of course?
Speaker #2: Outside of the IEPA, of course.
Speaker #3: Hey, good morning, Eti. Thanks for kicking us off today. So I think when you pressures that we're seeing, the offsets come in a couple of different forms.
Paul Jacobson: Hey, good morning, Itay. Thanks for kicking us off today. I think when you, when you look at the inflation, the pressures that we're seeing, the offsets come in a couple different forms. Number one, we put a little bit in the bank in Q1 from our outperformance from what we've seen. Some of that was timing. There was some good core movement on many of the staples that we've talked about, whether it's warranty or EV profitability, regulatory costs, et cetera. There was also the playbook that we referenced in our comments, which is similar to what we've done, whether it was tariffs or chip shortage or COVID, et cetera, that's worked really well for us. We're looking at doing that.
Paul Jacobson: Hey, good morning, Itay. Thanks for kicking us off today. I think when you, when you look at the inflation, the pressures that we're seeing, the offsets come in a couple different forms. Number one, we put a little bit in the bank in Q1 from our outperformance from what we've seen. Some of that was timing. There was some good core movement on many of the staples that we've talked about, whether it's warranty or EV profitability, regulatory costs, et cetera. There was also the playbook that we referenced in our comments, which is similar to what we've done, whether it was tariffs or chip shortage or COVID, et cetera, that's worked really well for us. We're looking at doing that.
Speaker #3: Number one, we've put a little bit in the bank in Q1, from our outperformance, from what we've seen. Some of that was timing, but there was some good core movement on many of the staples that we've talked about, whether it's warranty or EV profitability, regulatory costs, etc.
Speaker #3: But then there's also the playbook that we referenced in our comments, which is similar to what we've done whether it was tariffs or chip shortage or COVID, etc.
Speaker #3: That's worked really well for us. So we're looking at doing that. What we don't want to do—we don't want to rush into a lot of things that are going to jeopardize or otherwise put at risk longer-term strategic initiatives by overreacting to what's going on around us.
Paul Jacobson: What we don't want to do, we don't want to rush into a lot of things that are gonna jeopardize or otherwise put at risk longer term strategic initiatives by overreacting to what's going around us. You know, we, we have sort of degrees of freedom in terms of what we're going to do, starting with relative low hanging fruit, you know, maybe deferring some hiring or things like that. Overall, you know, I think we're gonna be measured about it. While we have this uncertainty, you know, I think holding our numbers consistent net of IEEPA, I think, is the prudent thing to do with all this uncertainty. If things abate then, you know, we could potentially see upside in the future.
Paul Jacobson: What we don't want to do, we don't want to rush into a lot of things that are gonna jeopardize or otherwise put at risk longer term strategic initiatives by overreacting to what's going around us. You know, we, we have sort of degrees of freedom in terms of what we're going to do, starting with relative low hanging fruit, you know, maybe deferring some hiring or things like that. Overall, you know, I think we're gonna be measured about it. While we have this uncertainty, you know, I think holding our numbers consistent net of IEEPA, I think, is the prudent thing to do with all this uncertainty. If things abate then, you know, we could potentially see upside in the future.
Speaker #3: So we have sort of degrees of freedom in terms of what we're going to do, starting with relatively low-hanging fruit, maybe deferring some hiring or things like that.
Speaker #3: But overall, I think we're going to be measured about it. So, while we have this uncertainty, I think holding our numbers consistent, net of IEPA, I think is the prudent thing to do with all this uncertainty.
Speaker #3: And if things abate, then we could potentially see upside in the future.
Speaker #2: Definitely helpful. And then a bigger-picture question. Great to see the progress on software and services. At a high level, how should we think about the ARPU opportunity for the company on the upcoming SDV platform in 2028 as this sort of opportunity continues to grow from here?
Itay Michaeli: That's very helpful. A bigger picture question. Great to see the progress on software and services. At a high level, how should we think about the ARPU opportunity for the company on the upcoming SDV platform in 2028, as this sort of opportunity continues to grow from here?
Itay Michaeli: That's very helpful. A bigger picture question. Great to see the progress on software and services. At a high level, how should we think about the ARPU opportunity for the company on the upcoming SDV platform in 2028, as this sort of opportunity continues to grow from here?
Speaker #3: Well, I think, Eti, you look at the momentum we have, and I appreciate you pointing it out. We've started to lean more into disclosing a lot of what's going on here.
Paul Jacobson: Well, you know, I think, Itay, you look at the momentum we have, and I appreciate you pointing it out. You know, we've started to lean more into disclosing a lot of what's going on here, and I think what we're really focused on right now is the attachment rates and delivering value to the customer. As we roll out SDV 2.0, you know, the number of opportunities out there start to magnify pretty significantly in terms of what the digital offerings that we can put out there. You'll hear more information about that over the coming months, as we lean into when SDV 2.0 comes.
Paul Jacobson: Well, you know, I think, Itay, you look at the momentum we have, and I appreciate you pointing it out. You know, we've started to lean more into disclosing a lot of what's going on here, and I think what we're really focused on right now is the attachment rates and delivering value to the customer. As we roll out SDV 2.0, you know, the number of opportunities out there start to magnify pretty significantly in terms of what the digital offerings that we can put out there. You'll hear more information about that over the coming months, as we lean into when SDV 2.0 comes.
Speaker #3: And I think what we're really focused on right now is the attachment rates and delivering value to the customer as we roll out SDV 2.0.
Speaker #3: The number of opportunities out there start to magnify pretty significantly in terms of what the digital offerings that we can put out there. You'll hear more information about that over the coming months.
Speaker #3: As we lean into when SDV 2.0 comes. But clearly, when you look at we might have a lower average revenue per unit today than say Tesla does, but we already have significantly higher volumes, higher deferred revenue, more realized revenue.
Paul Jacobson: Clearly when you look at, you know, we might have a lower average revenue per unit today than say Tesla does, but we already have significantly higher volumes, higher deferred revenue, more realized revenue, and that's where the real scale benefit comes across the portfolio. We think that this is a growing and, you know, soon to be really influential piece of the business going forward.
Paul Jacobson: Clearly when you look at, you know, we might have a lower average revenue per unit today than say Tesla does, but we already have significantly higher volumes, higher deferred revenue, more realized revenue, and that's where the real scale benefit comes across the portfolio. We think that this is a growing and, you know, soon to be really influential piece of the business going forward.
Speaker #3: And that's where the real scale benefit comes across the portfolio. So we think that this is a growing and soon-to-be really influential piece of the business going forward.
Speaker #2: That's very helpful. Thank you.
Itay Michaeli: That's very helpful. Thank you.
Itay Michaeli: That's very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Speck with UBS, your line is open.
Operator 2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Joseph Spak with UBS. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Joseph Spak with UBS. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Paul, I know you're on TV this morning, and I think you mentioned some industry discounting. I'm just wondering if you could expand on that a little bit, because it doesn't really sound like you change your own sort of volume or pricing assumption.
Joseph Spak: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Paul.
Joseph Spak: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Paul.
Paul Jacobson: Good morning, Joe.
Paul Jacobson: Good morning, Joe.
Joseph Spak: I know you were on TV this morning. I think you mentioned some industry discounting. I'm just wondering if you could, you know, expand on that a little bit because it doesn't really sound like you changed your own sort of volume or pricing assumption. Is what you're seeing sort of in line with what you expected, call it 90 days ago? You know, just given some of these cost pressures, if competitors do start to maybe try to price for some of these cost pressures, do you feel that gives you a little bit of leeway to do the same to cover some of those higher costs you mentioned?
Joseph Spak: I know you were on TV this morning. I think you mentioned some industry discounting. I'm just wondering if you could, you know, expand on that a little bit because it doesn't really sound like you changed your own sort of volume or pricing assumption. Is what you're seeing sort of in line with what you expected, call it 90 days ago? You know, just given some of these cost pressures, if competitors do start to maybe try to price for some of these cost pressures, do you feel that gives you a little bit of leeway to do the same to cover some of those higher costs you mentioned?
Speaker #2: So is what you're seeing sort of in line with what you expected—call it 90 days ago? And then, just given some of these cost pressures, if competitors do start to maybe try to price for some of these cost pressures, do you feel like that gives you a little bit of leeway to do the same to cover some of those higher costs you mentioned?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Joe. I would say it's largely in line with what our expectations have been. There have been some really unique things that I think have played out this year among the competitive set that we haven't seen historically.
Paul Jacobson: Thanks, Joe. You know, I would say it's largely in line with what our expectations have been. There have been some really unique things that I think have played out this year among the competitive set that we haven't seen historically. You know, we continue to, I think, be very disciplined in our approach. I think a lot of the share data that people saw during the quarter was probably more a result of some of the challenges we had with inventory on lots. We came into the quarter light on our targeted inventory levels, primarily because we'd had such a really strong December, for example. With the storm and some other challenges that we had, we weren't really able to catch up.
Paul Jacobson: Thanks, Joe. You know, I would say it's largely in line with what our expectations have been. There have been some really unique things that I think have played out this year among the competitive set that we haven't seen historically. You know, we continue to, I think, be very disciplined in our approach. I think a lot of the share data that people saw during the quarter was probably more a result of some of the challenges we had with inventory on lots. We came into the quarter light on our targeted inventory levels, primarily because we'd had such a really strong December, for example. With the storm and some other challenges that we had, we weren't really able to catch up.
Speaker #3: But we continue to, I think, be very disciplined in our approach. I think a lot of the share data that people saw during the quarter was probably more a result of some of the challenges we had with inventory on lots.
Speaker #3: We came into the quarter light on our targeted inventory levels, primarily because we'd had such a really strong December, for example. And then with the storm and some other challenges that we had, we weren't really able to catch up.
Speaker #3: Wholesales caught up towards the end of the quarter, but that really didn't show up in showrooms. So we're optimistic that as we get more product out to the dealers, in Q2, that we can help to reverse some of the share losses that we saw.
Paul Jacobson: Wholesale's caught up towards the end of the quarter. That really didn't show up in showrooms. We're optimistic that as we get more product out to the dealers in Q2, that we can help to reverse some of the share losses that we saw without getting into heavy discounting across the board. I think nothing has changed in our playbook. We're gonna continue to be tactical, and we're gonna continue to be disciplined.
Paul Jacobson: Wholesale's caught up towards the end of the quarter. That really didn't show up in showrooms. We're optimistic that as we get more product out to the dealers in Q2, that we can help to reverse some of the share losses that we saw without getting into heavy discounting across the board. I think nothing has changed in our playbook. We're gonna continue to be tactical, and we're gonna continue to be disciplined.
Speaker #3: Without getting into heavy discounting across the board. So I think nothing has changed in our playbook. We're going to continue to be tactical, and we're going to continue to be disciplined.
Speaker #2: Thanks. Makes sense. And maybe just one on the cost side then. Obviously, some good management here in the quarter. And I think you sort of mentioned maybe some cost timing or phasing.
Joseph Spak: Makes sense. Maybe just one on the cost side then. Obviously some good management here in the quarter, and I think you sort of mentioned, you know, maybe some cost timing or phasing. I guess the one I'm curious about is, I think you mentioned, you know, call it $1 billion to $1.5 billion in onshoring and software costs. Like, how's that tracking? Is that something that really started to come in this quarter, or is that sort of more weighted to the remainder of the year? Then one clarification on IEEPA. This is just the receivable for your overpayment, right? Like, you're not assuming that you're not paying this in.
Joseph Spak: Makes sense. Maybe just one on the cost side then. Obviously some good management here in the quarter, and I think you sort of mentioned, you know, maybe some cost timing or phasing. I guess the one I'm curious about is, I think you mentioned, you know, call it $1 billion to $1.5 billion in onshoring and software costs. Like, how's that tracking? Is that something that really started to come in this quarter, or is that sort of more weighted to the remainder of the year? Then one clarification on IEEPA. This is just the receivable for your overpayment, right? Like, you're not assuming that you're not paying this in.
Speaker #2: I guess the one I'm curious about is, I think you mentioned call it a billion to billion and a half in onshoring and software costs.
Speaker #2: How's that tracking? And does that something that really started to come in this quarter, or is that sort of more weighted to the remainder of the year?
Speaker #2: And then one clarification on IEPA. This is just the receivable for your overpayment, right? You're not assuming that you're not paying this in or I guess the 122 replacements like those stay in place.
Joseph Spak: I guess the 122 replacements, like those stay in place. It's not that there's like a benefit in assuming your guidance that you don't end up paying that in the back half, correct?
Joseph Spak: I guess the 122 replacements, like those stay in place. It's not that there's like a benefit in assuming your guidance that you don't end up paying that in the back half, correct?
Speaker #2: It's not that there's like a benefit in assuming your guidance that you aren't paying that in the back half. Correct?
Speaker #3: Yeah. So let me cover the tariff question first. So all we've done here is taken the IEPA direct tariff that we paid last year, that was subject to the Supreme Court decision and credited that back as a receivable.
Paul Jacobson: Let me cover the tariff question first. All we've done here is taken the IEEPA direct tariff that we paid last year that was subject to the Supreme Court decision and credited that back as a receivable. As we said, we haven't changed our free cash flow guidance because we don't know what the when the refunds are going to be received, how that window might work going forward. That's all we've assumed. Now, keep in mind, most of our tariff burden comes from Section 232. IEEPA versus our size is relatively small. Because of that entry, that's why we took it, we took the guidance down.
Paul Jacobson: Let me cover the tariff question first. All we've done here is taken the IEEPA direct tariff that we paid last year that was subject to the Supreme Court decision and credited that back as a receivable. As we said, we haven't changed our free cash flow guidance because we don't know what the when the refunds are going to be received, how that window might work going forward. That's all we've assumed. Now, keep in mind, most of our tariff burden comes from Section 232. IEEPA versus our size is relatively small. Because of that entry, that's why we took it, we took the guidance down.
Speaker #3: And as we said, we haven't changed our free cash flow guidance because we don't know what the when the refunds are going to be received, how that window might But that's all we've assumed.
Speaker #3: Now, keep in mind, most of our tariff burden comes from 232. So IEPA versus our size is relatively small. But because of that entry, that's why we took the guidance down.
Paul Jacobson: We're not projecting any other change or we're not projecting any other changes to our tariff bill. When I said guidance down, I meant the tariff bill guidance down.
Speaker #3: We're not projecting any other change or we're not projecting any other changes to our tariff bill. When I said guidance down, I meant the tariff bill guidance down.
Paul Jacobson: We're not projecting any other change or we're not projecting any other changes to our tariff bill. When I said guidance down, I meant the tariff bill guidance down.
Joseph Spak: Yeah.
Joseph Spak: Yeah.
Speaker #3: And then on the cost side, I think it's a couple of things. FX was obviously a benefit for us. Primarily, the peso Canadian dollar and then also Korea and some of our imports getting better treatment there.
Paul Jacobson: On the cost side, you know, I think it's a couple of things. You know, FX was obviously a benefit for us, you know, primarily the peso, Canadian dollar, and then also Korea and some of our imports getting better treatment there. We think that will hold. When you look at other cost items, we made progress on warranty, a couple hundred million dollars of warranty in line with what we said we're gonna do for the year. EV profitability improved largely as a result of better, more efficient use of the capacity as the write-offs that we took hold. Also on the regulatory side, around GHG.
Paul Jacobson: On the cost side, you know, I think it's a couple of things. You know, FX was obviously a benefit for us, you know, primarily the peso, Canadian dollar, and then also Korea and some of our imports getting better treatment there. We think that will hold. When you look at other cost items, we made progress on warranty, a couple hundred million dollars of warranty in line with what we said we're gonna do for the year. EV profitability improved largely as a result of better, more efficient use of the capacity as the write-offs that we took hold. Also on the regulatory side, around GHG.
Speaker #3: We think that we'll hold. When you look at other cost items, we make progress on warranty. A couple hundred million dollars of warranty in line with what we've said we're going to do for the year.
Speaker #3: EV profitability improved largely as a result of better, more efficient use of the capacity as the whole as the write-offs that we took took hold.
Speaker #3: And then also on the regulatory side, around GHG. So I think many of those are going to hold on. When you look at the cost pressures, as we've talked about, pretty much the onshoring costs are going to be really heavily weighted towards the back half of the year.
Paul Jacobson: I think many of those are gonna hold on. When you look at the cost pressures, as we've talked about, pretty much the onshoring costs are gonna be really heavily weighted towards the back half of the year, as expected, and we start to hire people to get the plants running in early 2027.
Paul Jacobson: I think many of those are gonna hold on. When you look at the cost pressures, as we've talked about, pretty much the onshoring costs are gonna be really heavily weighted towards the back half of the year, as expected, and we start to hire people to get the plants running in early 2027.
Speaker #3: As expected, and we start to hire people to get the plants running in early 2027.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Joseph Spak: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Joseph Spak: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks for your question.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. Thanks for your question.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. Thanks for your question.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from Emmanuel Rosser with Wolf Research. Your line is open.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Emmanuel Rosner with Wolfe Research.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Emmanuel Rosner with Wolfe Research.
Speaker #2: Great. Thank you so much. Good morning. So quite an uncertain environment as you certainly indicated. I was curious in terms of the factors you're monitoring.
Emmanuel Rosner: Great. Thank you so much. Good morning. Quite an uncertain environment as you certainly, you know, indicated. I was curious in terms of the factors you're monitoring. You indicated, you know, you'd want a little bit more clarity on some of those before making any additional changes to the outlook. In terms of things that could move the needle for this year that you're monitoring, is it more on the demand side, vehicle mix, input cost? I'm curious which are the ones that, you know, could still, you know, move up or down, you know, the most, and impact you.
Emmanuel Rosner: Great. Thank you so much. Good morning. Quite an uncertain environment as you certainly, you know, indicated. I was curious in terms of the factors you're monitoring. You indicated, you know, you'd want a little bit more clarity on some of those before making any additional changes to the outlook. In terms of things that could move the needle for this year that you're monitoring, is it more on the demand side, vehicle mix, input cost? I'm curious which are the ones that, you know, could still, you know, move up or down, you know, the most, and impact you.
Speaker #2: You indicated you'd want a little bit more clarity on some of those before making any additional changes to the outlook. In terms of things that could move the needle for this year that you're monitoring, is it more on the demand side, vehicle mix, input cost?
Speaker #2: I'm curious which are the ones that could still move up or down the most and impact you?
Speaker #1: Well, Emmanuel, I think the number one thing that we're watching is what happens with the Iranian conflict. Because, obviously, oil prices affect a lot more that we're seeing from not only the logistics, but also other commodity costs.
Mary Barra: Well, Emmanuel, I think the number one thing that we're watching is, you know, what happens with the Iranian conflict, because obviously, if, you know, with oil prices affect a lot more, you know, that we're seeing from not only the logistics, but also other commodity costs. If the conflict ends in a shorter period of time, I think we'll see a return back to normal levels. If it stays on longer, tell me how high oil prices go before we'll start talking about what demand is.
Mary Barra: Well, Emmanuel, I think the number one thing that we're watching is, you know, what happens with the Iranian conflict, because obviously, if, you know, with oil prices affect a lot more, you know, that we're seeing from not only the logistics, but also other commodity costs. If the conflict ends in a shorter period of time, I think we'll see a return back to normal levels. If it stays on longer, tell me how high oil prices go before we'll start talking about what demand is.
Speaker #1: So, if the conflict ends in a shorter period of time, I think we'll see a return back to normal levels. If it stays on longer, tell me how high oil prices go before we'll start talking about what demand is.
Speaker #1: But I also want to remind you that we're although we have an incredibly strong truck franchise and I'm very excited about the new truck that we have coming out at the end of the year, we also have a very strong midsize crossover portfolio.
Mary Barra: I also want to remind you that we're, although we have an incredibly strong truck franchise, and I'm very excited about the new truck that we have coming out at the end of the year, we also have a very strong mid-size crossover portfolio and small crossover portfolio, as well as a strong mid-size truck. I think we're well prepared with, you know, a portfolio I'd stand against anyone when we look at how consumer behavior might shift, depending on how long the war lasts, but we just don't know. I think those are the primary things that we're watching. As Paul said, we looked at the year seeing that uncertainty, especially as the conflict began, and that's why we started to really work on cost management.
Mary Barra: I also want to remind you that we're, although we have an incredibly strong truck franchise, and I'm very excited about the new truck that we have coming out at the end of the year, we also have a very strong mid-size crossover portfolio and small crossover portfolio, as well as a strong mid-size truck. I think we're well prepared with, you know, a portfolio I'd stand against anyone when we look at how consumer behavior might shift, depending on how long the war lasts, but we just don't know. I think those are the primary things that we're watching. As Paul said, we looked at the year seeing that uncertainty, especially as the conflict began, and that's why we started to really work on cost management.
Speaker #1: And small crossover portfolio, as well as a strong midsize truck. So I think we're well prepared with a portfolio. I'd stand against anyone when we look at how consumer behavior might shift depending on how long the war lasts.
Speaker #1: But we just don't know. So I think those are the primary things that we're watching. And as Paul said, we looked at the year, seen that uncertainty, especially as the conflict began.
Speaker #1: And that's why we started to really work on cost management. There's other areas that we're working on to continue to do that. But I think the biggest variable that we're looking at is how long does the conflict last and what does it cause from a cost perspective across logistics, supply chain, and if it ends up having anything any impact on a shift in mix.
Mary Barra: There's other areas that we're working on to continue to do that. I think the biggest variable that we're looking at is how long does the conflict last and what does it cause from a cost perspective across logistics, supply chain, and if it ends up having anything, any impact on a shift in mix. To date, we really haven't seen that.
Mary Barra: There's other areas that we're working on to continue to do that. I think the biggest variable that we're looking at is how long does the conflict last and what does it cause from a cost perspective across logistics, supply chain, and if it ends up having anything, any impact on a shift in mix. To date, we really haven't seen that.
Speaker #1: But to date, we really haven't seen that.
Emmanuel Rosner: Yeah. That's very fair and great color. I guess just as a follow-up on this then, in terms of the input cost inflation and commodities, can you tell us what you have assumed in this updated guidance, which has been where the inflation cost has been increased by another half a billion dollars? What are you assuming for commodities in the back half, or for how long they stay high as a base case scenario?
Emmanuel Rosner: Yeah. That's very fair and great color. I guess just as a follow-up on this then, in terms of the input cost inflation and commodities, can you tell us what you have assumed in this updated guidance, which has been where the inflation cost has been increased by another half a billion dollars? What are you assuming for commodities in the back half, or for how long they stay high as a base case scenario?
Speaker #2: Yeah. That's very fair. And great caller. And I guess just as a follow-up on this, then in terms of the input cost inflation and commodities, can you tell us what you have assumed in this updated guidance, which has been where the inflation cost has been increased by another half a billion dollars?
Speaker #2: What are you assuming for commodities in the back half or for how long they stay how long they stay high as a base case scenario?
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, Emmanuel, what we've done is essentially taken the kind of the curve where it sits today, net of our hedges. You know, remember, it's not all direct and linear because we've got, for example, steel contracts. If you'll recall, we have about a third, a third, a third. A third at spot, a third expiring within a year, and a third kind of over 2 years. That's helped us quite a bit. You know, during times when prices go down, we pay a little bit more, but we pay a little bit less when prices go up. We're really looking at the current environment kind of persisting for the year.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, Emmanuel, what we've done is essentially taken the kind of the curve where it sits today, net of our hedges. You know, remember, it's not all direct and linear because we've got, for example, steel contracts. If you'll recall, we have about a third, a third, a third. A third at spot, a third expiring within a year, and a third kind of over 2 years. That's helped us quite a bit. You know, during times when prices go down, we pay a little bit more, but we pay a little bit less when prices go up. We're really looking at the current environment kind of persisting for the year.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Emmanuel, what we've done is essentially taken the kind of the curve where it sits today, net of our hedges, and remember, it's not all direct and linear because we've got, for example, steel contracts. If you'll recall, we have about a third, a third, a third—a third at spot, a third expiring within a year, and a third kind of over two years.
Speaker #3: So that's helped us quite a bit. During times when prices go down, we pay a little bit more, but we pay a little bit less when prices go up.
Speaker #3: So we're really looking at the current environment kind of persisting for the year. And to Mary's point, if we see conflict end and commodity prices and oil prices returning back down to pre-conflict levels, then we could potentially see upside in that scenario.
Paul Jacobson: To Mary's point, if we see conflict end and commodity prices and oil prices returning back down to pre-conflict levels, then, you know, we could potentially see upside in that scenario.
Paul Jacobson: To Mary's point, if we see conflict end and commodity prices and oil prices returning back down to pre-conflict levels, then, you know, we could potentially see upside in that scenario.
Emmanuel Rosner: Great. Thank you very much.
Emmanuel Rosner: Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #2: Great. Thank you very much.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, thanks for the questions.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, thanks for the questions.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks for the questions.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question is from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question is from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Mark Delaney: Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. You mentioned the downtime that GM had for tooling in Q1 related to the next gen full-size pickups. I'm hoping to better understand if investors should expect more downtime for the upcoming full-size pickup launch, and that's a potential incremental headwind, or is that now behind and higher full-size pickup truck production should be a tailwind for the volume and share plans that you articulated in your prepared remarks?
Mark Delaney: Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. You mentioned the downtime that GM had for tooling in Q1 related to the next gen full-size pickups. I'm hoping to better understand if investors should expect more downtime for the upcoming full-size pickup launch, and that's a potential incremental headwind, or is that now behind and higher full-size pickup truck production should be a tailwind for the volume and share plans that you articulated in your prepared remarks?
Speaker #4: Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. You mentioned the downtime that GM had for tooling in the first quarter related to the next-gen full-size pickups.
Speaker #4: I'm hoping to better understand if investors should expect more downtime for the upcoming full-size pickup launch. And that's a potential incremental headwind, or is that now behind?
Speaker #4: And higher full-size pickup truck production should be a tailwind for the volume and share plans that you articulated in your prepared remarks.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, good morning, Mark. Thanks for that. You know, we had some significant downtime in the quarter, primarily related to heavy duty trucks. I think a lot of that is behind us. There may be some selective downtime, but I think a lot of it can be done during shutdown, et cetera. Excuse me, we're not anticipating any material downtime at this point. You know, that's what we're gonna need to lean into a little bit to try to get our inventory levels back into the targeted range from where they've been. 'Cause even when we ended the quarter, we were still down below our target levels. We're hoping that we can get that back.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, good morning, Mark. Thanks for that. You know, we had some significant downtime in the quarter, primarily related to heavy duty trucks. I think a lot of that is behind us. There may be some selective downtime, but I think a lot of it can be done during shutdown, et cetera. Excuse me, we're not anticipating any material downtime at this point. You know, that's what we're gonna need to lean into a little bit to try to get our inventory levels back into the targeted range from where they've been. 'Cause even when we ended the quarter, we were still down below our target levels. We're hoping that we can get that back.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Good morning, Mark. Thanks for that. We had some significant downtime in the quarter, primarily related to heavy-duty trucks. I think a lot of that is behind us.
Speaker #3: There may be some selective downtime, but I think a lot of it can be done during shutdown, etc. So excuse me. We're not anticipating any material downtime.
Speaker #3: At this point, that's what we're going to need to lean into a little bit to try to get our inventory levels back into the targeted range.
Speaker #3: From where they've been, because even when we ended the quarter, we were still down below our target levels. So we're hoping that we can get that back.
Paul Jacobson: The team's done a really, really good job of managing through, all of the logistical challenges.
Paul Jacobson: The team's done a really, really good job of managing through, all of the logistical challenges.
Speaker #3: And the team's done a really, really good job of managing through all of the logistical challenges.
Mark Delaney: Thanks for that, Paul. My other question was on Super Cruise and the digital services. For the strong growth that GM has been seeing in Super Cruise and the willingness for consumers to subscribe after the prepaid subscriptions last, could you speak a bit more on the breadth of that consumer demand, and is it concentrated in the higher end parts of the portfolio like Cadillac, or is GM seeing consumer demand for those solutions more broadly?
Mark Delaney: Thanks for that, Paul. My other question was on Super Cruise and the digital services. For the strong growth that GM has been seeing in Super Cruise and the willingness for consumers to subscribe after the prepaid subscriptions last, could you speak a bit more on the breadth of that consumer demand, and is it concentrated in the higher end parts of the portfolio like Cadillac, or is GM seeing consumer demand for those solutions more broadly?
Speaker #4: Thanks for that, Paul. My other question was on Super Cruise and the digital services. For the strong growth that GM has been seeing in Super Cruise and the willingness for consumers to subscribe after the prepaid subscriptions last, could you speak a bit more on the breadth of that consumer demand?
Speaker #4: And is it concentrated in the higher-end parts of the portfolio? Like Cadillac, or is GM seeing consumer demand for those solutions more broadly?
Paul Jacobson: What I would say, Mark, you know, we're continuing to trend at about that 40% attachment rate after the subscription period. You know, we do it differently, right? Other competitors have put the hardware on every vehicle, and they're bearing that cost. For us, it's consumers who have purchased Super Cruise. They prepaid for a 3-year period, and we see that in terms of the hardware cost. We have the deferred revenue that comes with the vehicle, and then we have the subscription afterwards. We're starting to see escalation in terms of the number of vehicles that are coming off of that 3-year prepaid period, and we're still holding attachment rates in that 40% range.
Paul Jacobson: What I would say, Mark, you know, we're continuing to trend at about that 40% attachment rate after the subscription period. You know, we do it differently, right? Other competitors have put the hardware on every vehicle, and they're bearing that cost. For us, it's consumers who have purchased Super Cruise. They prepaid for a 3-year period, and we see that in terms of the hardware cost. We have the deferred revenue that comes with the vehicle, and then we have the subscription afterwards. We're starting to see escalation in terms of the number of vehicles that are coming off of that 3-year prepaid period, and we're still holding attachment rates in that 40% range.
Speaker #3: So what I would say, Mark, is we're continuing to trend at about that 40% attachment rate after the subscription period. And we do it differently, right?
Speaker #3: Other competitors have put the hardware on every vehicle, and they're bearing that cost. For us, it's consumers who have purchased Super Cruise—they prepaid for a three-year period.
Speaker #3: And we see that in terms of the hardware cost. So, we have the deferred revenue that comes with the vehicle, and then we have the subscription afterwards.
Speaker #3: So we're starting to see escalation in terms of the number of vehicles that are coming off of that three-year prepaid period, and we're still holding attachment rates.
Speaker #3: In that 40% range. So we're very optimistic about what that means. And I think that's what I was adhering to in the earlier question of when you look at the ARPU, you've got to really take into account the scale advantage that we have, especially as we start growing into SDV 2.0 and expanding that across the portfolio.
Paul Jacobson: We're very optimistic about what that means, and I think that's what I was adhering to in the earlier question of, you know, when you look at the ARPU, you've got to really take into account the scale advantage that we have, especially as we start growing into SDV 2.0 and expanding that across the portfolio. Super Cruise is a really strong leading indicator, and we're continuing to invest in delivering more value to customers that we think are gonna make that even more attractive in the future.
Paul Jacobson: We're very optimistic about what that means, and I think that's what I was adhering to in the earlier question of, you know, when you look at the ARPU, you've got to really take into account the scale advantage that we have, especially as we start growing into SDV 2.0 and expanding that across the portfolio. Super Cruise is a really strong leading indicator, and we're continuing to invest in delivering more value to customers that we think are gonna make that even more attractive in the future.
Speaker #3: But Super Cruise is a really strong leading indicator. And we're continuing to invest in delivering more value to customers that we think is going to make that even more attractive in the future.
Mark Delaney: Thank you.
Mark Delaney: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from James Picariello with BNP Paribas. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from James Picariello with BNP Paribas. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from James Piccarello with BNP Paribas. Your line is open.
James Picariello: Good morning, everyone. My first question, just as we think about adjusted auto free cash flow, how should we be thinking about the GMF, the GM Financial dividends? Right? That was a pretty notable step up at $650 million for Q1. Just to clarify, regarding the EV cash restructuring of $4 billion or so for the full year, the majority, the remainder of that gets achieved in Q2. Is that right?
James Picariello: Good morning, everyone. My first question, just as we think about adjusted auto free cash flow, how should we be thinking about the GMF, the GM Financial dividends? Right? That was a pretty notable step up at $650 million for Q1. Just to clarify, regarding the EV cash restructuring of $4 billion or so for the full year, the majority, the remainder of that gets achieved in Q2. Is that right?
Speaker #5: Hi. Good morning, everyone. My first question, just as we think about just as we think about adjusted auto free cash flow, how should we be thinking about the GMF, the GM financial dividends?
Speaker #5: That was a pretty notable step up at $650 million for the first quarter. And then just to clarify, regarding the EV cash restructuring of $4 billion or so for the full year, the majority—the remainder of that—gets achieved in the second quarter.
Speaker #5: Is that right?
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, James, a couple of things. First, on GMF, you know, we saw an opportunity in Q1, largely as a result of GMF's cash position, to step up the dividend from our traditional level. We're not changing the full year expectation of the dividend. Pretty consistent there for the full year. From a timing perspective, you know, we saw that opportunity and we took it. On the EV cash charges as we laid out, we're going very hard and aggressively at the sort of commercial relationships. We're approximately 90% done with those. And we expect to have substantially all of that cash paid out before the end of this quarter, this quarter being Q2.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, James, a couple of things. First, on GMF, you know, we saw an opportunity in Q1, largely as a result of GMF's cash position, to step up the dividend from our traditional level. We're not changing the full year expectation of the dividend. Pretty consistent there for the full year. From a timing perspective, you know, we saw that opportunity and we took it. On the EV cash charges as we laid out, we're going very hard and aggressively at the sort of commercial relationships. We're approximately 90% done with those. And we expect to have substantially all of that cash paid out before the end of this quarter, this quarter being Q2.
Speaker #3: Yeah, James. A couple of things. First on GMF, we saw an opportunity in the first quarter largely as a result of GMF's cash position to step up the dividend from our traditional level.
Speaker #3: We're not changing the full-year expectation. Of the dividend. So pretty consistent there. For the full year. But from a timing perspective, we saw that opportunity.
Speaker #3: And we took it. On the EV cash charges, as we laid out, we're going very hard and aggressively at the sort of commercial relationships.
Speaker #3: We're approximately 90% done with those. And we expect to have substantially all of that cash paid out before the end of this quarter. This quarter being the second quarter.
Paul Jacobson: We still have a couple of battery, raw material, negotiations that we're working through that are obviously more complex. You know, those will come in over time as well as we continue to work with our partners. Our goal here is to try to put as much of this behind us as quickly as we can, so that we can be focused with our supply chain partners on tomorrow and stop having conversations about yesterday, which I think is way ahead of the expectations that many of our competitors have placed. We're focused on that.
Paul Jacobson: We still have a couple of battery, raw material, negotiations that we're working through that are obviously more complex. You know, those will come in over time as well as we continue to work with our partners. Our goal here is to try to put as much of this behind us as quickly as we can, so that we can be focused with our supply chain partners on tomorrow and stop having conversations about yesterday, which I think is way ahead of the expectations that many of our competitors have placed. We're focused on that.
Speaker #3: We still have a couple of battery raw material negotiations that we're working through. They're obviously more complex. But those will come in over time as well as we continue to work with our partners.
Speaker #3: But our goal here is to try to put as much of this behind us as we quickly as we can. So that we can be focused with our supply chain partners on tomorrow and stop having conversations about yesterday.
Speaker #3: Which I think is way ahead of the expectations that many of our competitors have placed. So we're focused on that. We also don't want it to be an overhang for cash flow.
Paul Jacobson: We also don't want it to be an overhang for cash flow. Despite that, you know, significant cash outflow that we've seen as a result of those restructuring charges, we were still able to repurchase $800 million of shares in the quarter, and we remain committed to our capital allocation going forward. I think the team's done a really good job of managing through those challenges and through those conflicts.
Paul Jacobson: We also don't want it to be an overhang for cash flow. Despite that, you know, significant cash outflow that we've seen as a result of those restructuring charges, we were still able to repurchase $800 million of shares in the quarter, and we remain committed to our capital allocation going forward. I think the team's done a really good job of managing through those challenges and through those conflicts.
Speaker #3: Despite that, significant cash outflow that we've seen as a result of those restructuring charges, we were still able to repurchase 800 million dollars of shares in the quarter.
Speaker #3: And we remain committed to our capital allocation going forward. So, I think the team's done a really good job of managing through those challenges and through those conflicts.
James Picariello: Yes, for sure. You know, very helpful. Just on the GMI downside within the guide now, I mean, is that order of magnitude, like, $300 million of incremental downside? Just how to think about volumes for GMI the remainder of the year relative to Q1? I thought just, like, high-level cadence for adjusted EBIT for the year. Typically, the Q2 and Q3 are the strongest, right, for GM.
James Picariello: Yes, for sure. You know, very helpful. Just on the GMI downside within the guide now, I mean, is that order of magnitude, like, $300 million of incremental downside? Just how to think about volumes for GMI the remainder of the year relative to Q1? I thought just, like, high-level cadence for adjusted EBIT for the year. Typically, the Q2 and Q3 are the strongest, right, for GM.
Speaker #5: Yes, for sure. Very helpful. And then just on the GMI downside, within the guide now, just how should we be thinking about— I mean, is that order of magnitude like $300 million of incremental downside?
Speaker #5: And just how to think about volumes for GMI, the remainder of the year relative to the first quarter. And that thought just high-level cadence for adjusted EBIT for the year?
Speaker #5: Typically, the second and third quarters are the strongest for GM.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. I would say that a lot of that is, you know, the impact has really been being driven by the Middle East. You know, in the quarter, we actually reallocated about 7,500 full-size SUVs that were originally slated to deliver to the Middle East operation under GMI. We reallocated them to North America, partly because of the conflict and the logistical challenges of getting them to market, but also partly to help bolster some of our lower inventory levels here in the US. You know, I think from an enterprise perspective, we're largely mitigating that impact as we've said. Depending on how long the conflict goes and how long we see challenges in the Middle East, that's what's gonna really ultimately determine the pressure on GMI.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. I would say that a lot of that is, you know, the impact has really been being driven by the Middle East. You know, in the quarter, we actually reallocated about 7,500 full-size SUVs that were originally slated to deliver to the Middle East operation under GMI. We reallocated them to North America, partly because of the conflict and the logistical challenges of getting them to market, but also partly to help bolster some of our lower inventory levels here in the US. You know, I think from an enterprise perspective, we're largely mitigating that impact as we've said. Depending on how long the conflict goes and how long we see challenges in the Middle East, that's what's gonna really ultimately determine the pressure on GMI.
Speaker #3: Yeah. I would say that a lot of that is the impact is really being driven by the Middle East. In the quarter, we actually reallocated about 7,500 full-size SUVs that were originally slated to deliver to Middle East operation under GMI.
Speaker #3: We reallocated them to North America partly because of the conflict and the logistical challenges of getting them to market, but also partly to help bolster some of our lower inventory levels here in the US.
Speaker #3: So I think from an enterprise perspective, we're largely mitigating that impact, as we've said. But depending on how long the conflict goes and how long we see challenges in the Middle East, that's what's going to really ultimately determine the pressure on GMI.
James Picariello: Thanks.
James Picariello: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Ward with Citigroup. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Ward with Citigroup. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Ward with Citigroup. Your line is open.
Michael Ward: Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Michael Ward: Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just to follow up on the truck changeover. So you had planned downtime for the tooling. And the actual change takes place in the second half, fourth Q specifically.
Paul Jacobson: Morning, Mike.
Paul Jacobson: Morning, Mike.
Michael Ward: Just to follow up on the truck changeover. You plan downtime for the tooling, and the actual change takes place in H2, Q4 specifically. Is that right? Does there an impact on the volume in Q4, or is that all largely behind you?
Michael Ward: Just to follow up on the truck changeover. You plan downtime for the tooling, and the actual change takes place in H2, Q4 specifically. Is that right? Does there an impact on the volume in Q4, or is that all largely behind you?
Speaker #5: Is that right? And is there an impact on the volume in Q4? Or is that all largely behind you?
Mary Barra: Well, I would say, you know, as we look at, that ramp will start in Q3 and then, you know, will accelerate. Depending on how successfully we accelerate, there's a tremendous amount of work going on. I'm really pleased.
Mary Barra: Well, I would say, you know, as we look at, that ramp will start in Q3 and then, you know, will accelerate. Depending on how successfully we accelerate, there's a tremendous amount of work going on. I'm really pleased.
Speaker #4: Well, I would say as we look at that ramble start in the third quarter and then we'll accelerate. So depending on how successfully we accelerate, there's a tremendous amount of work going on.
Michael Ward: Yeah
Michael Ward: Yeah
Mary Barra: with where the truck is from a quality perspective right now. You know, there may be a small impact, especially since we're running so lean from the current year. It's a good thing, though, that there's still such strong demand for our current generation trucks. We think it's gonna be a pretty smooth changeover, but there could be a small amount of impact as we get into the latter part of the year.
Mary Barra: with where the truck is from a quality perspective right now. You know, there may be a small impact, especially since we're running so lean from the current year. It's a good thing, though, that there's still such strong demand for our current generation trucks. We think it's gonna be a pretty smooth changeover, but there could be a small amount of impact as we get into the latter part of the year.
Speaker #4: I'm really pleased with the truck is from a quality perspective right now. But there may be a small impact, especially since we're running so lean from the current year.
Speaker #4: It's a good thing, though, that there's still such strong demand for our current generation trucks. So we think it's going to be a pretty smooth changeover.
Speaker #4: But there could be a small amount of impact as we get into the latter part of the year.
Michael Ward: Okay. Then just going back to the digital services, I think you said that you expect margins to be in line with other software companies. When will we see those types of margins? I don't know if we're there yet now or not, or if there are upfront costs you take. How does that cost/revenue curve look out over the next 2 to 3 years?
Michael Ward: Okay. Then just going back to the digital services, I think you said that you expect margins to be in line with other software companies. When will we see those types of margins? I don't know if we're there yet now or not, or if there are upfront costs you take. How does that cost/revenue curve look out over the next 2 to 3 years?
Speaker #5: Okay. And then just going back to the digital services, I think you said that you expect margins to be in line with other software companies.
Speaker #5: When will we see those types of margins? I don't know if we're there yet now or not. Or if they're upfront costs you take.
Speaker #5: How does that cost last revenue curve look out over the next two to three years?
Paul Jacobson: Mike, this gets a little bit technical. I'll try to summarize it best I can. When we, you know, when we sell a vehicle with Super Cruise, all the hardware gets expensed right away, and then the revenue associated with that gets deferred over the three-year trial period. That's coming on at a very, very sizable margin, because we've already recognized the costs in that going forward. When you look at the other digital services and OnStar, there are some hardware costs, et cetera, that are expensed with the vehicle. There's some service costs that go in. The margins aren't, you know, quite as robust as if you expense everything, because there are service costs associated with it, but they're still pretty sizable.
Paul Jacobson: Mike, this gets a little bit technical. I'll try to summarize it best I can. When we, you know, when we sell a vehicle with Super Cruise, all the hardware gets expensed right away, and then the revenue associated with that gets deferred over the three-year trial period. That's coming on at a very, very sizable margin, because we've already recognized the costs in that going forward. When you look at the other digital services and OnStar, there are some hardware costs, et cetera, that are expensed with the vehicle. There's some service costs that go in. The margins aren't, you know, quite as robust as if you expense everything, because there are service costs associated with it, but they're still pretty sizable.
Speaker #3: This gets a little bit technical. I'll try to summarize as best I can. But when we sell a vehicle with Super Cruise, all the hardware gets expensed right away.
Speaker #3: And then the revenue associated with that gets deferred over the three-year trial period. So that's coming on at a very, very sizable margin. Because we've already recognized the cost in that going forward.
Speaker #3: And then, when you look at the other digital services and OnStar, there are some hardware costs, etc., that are expensed with the vehicle. There's some service costs that go in.
Speaker #3: So the margins aren't quite as robust as if you expense everything, because there are service costs associated with it. But they're still pretty sizable.
Paul Jacobson: As we ramp up that deferred revenue base and it starts to amortize into the P&L at increasing rates, that's where you start to see the impact. You know, what we talked about, if you go back to Investor Day, several years ago, you know, we talked about that having an impact and growing to a point where it has an impact on the overall margins of the company. We're starting to see that, we're starting to see that take hold, and we've got a lot of excitement about the potential of what SDV 2.0 and the future improvements to Super Cruise and ultimately autonomy can do for us when you look at it across scale.
Paul Jacobson: As we ramp up that deferred revenue base and it starts to amortize into the P&L at increasing rates, that's where you start to see the impact. You know, what we talked about, if you go back to Investor Day, several years ago, you know, we talked about that having an impact and growing to a point where it has an impact on the overall margins of the company. We're starting to see that, we're starting to see that take hold, and we've got a lot of excitement about the potential of what SDV 2.0 and the future improvements to Super Cruise and ultimately autonomy can do for us when you look at it across scale.
Speaker #3: So as we ramp up that deferred revenue base and it starts to amortize into the P&L at increasing rates, that's where you start to see the impact.
Speaker #3: And what we talked about, if you go back to Investor Day several years ago, we talked about that having an impact and growing to a point where it has an impact on the overall margins of the company.
Speaker #3: And we're starting to see that. We're starting to see that take hold. And we see a lot—we've got a lot of excitement about the potential of what SDV 2.0 and the future improvements to Super Cruise and ultimately autonomy can do for us when you look at it across scale.
Michael Ward: Interesting. Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
Michael Ward: Interesting. Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
Speaker #5: Interesting. Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Andrew Percoco with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Andrew Percoco with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from Andrew Percocco with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Andrew Percoco: Great. Good morning, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. I want to start on the digital services. I appreciate the added disclosure you guys have started to give here. If I look at the 13 million or so subscribers that you're targeting by year-end, you know, you've also got, I think, 45 to 50 million vehicles on road. I'm just curious, like, how do you tap into that, you know, 35 to 40 million other vehicles that don't currently have any subscriptions to these digital services? Is there a hardware limitation? I know there might be some limitations around supervision, but outside of supervision, what's the opportunity to get some of those customers into some of these higher value digital services?
Andrew Percoco: Great. Good morning, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. I want to start on the digital services. I appreciate the added disclosure you guys have started to give here. If I look at the 13 million or so subscribers that you're targeting by year-end, you know, you've also got, I think, 45 to 50 million vehicles on road. I'm just curious, like, how do you tap into that, you know, 35 to 40 million other vehicles that don't currently have any subscriptions to these digital services? Is there a hardware limitation? I know there might be some limitations around supervision, but outside of supervision, what's the opportunity to get some of those customers into some of these higher value digital services?
Speaker #4: Great. Good morning, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. I want to start on the digital services. I appreciate the added disclosure you guys have started to give here.
Speaker #4: But if I look at the 13 million or so subscribers that you're targeting by year-end, you've also got, I think, 45 to 50 million vehicles on the road.
Speaker #4: So I'm just curious, how do you tap into that 35 to 40 million other vehicles that don't currently have any subscriptions to these digital services?
Speaker #4: Is there a hardware limitation? I know there might be some limitations around supervision. But outside of supervision, what's the opportunity to get some of those customers into some of these higher-value digital services?
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate that. You know, I think when we talk about the car park that's out there in the universe of GM vehicles, that really is meant to excuse me, signal the opportunity that exists going forward. As we continue to put SDV 2.0 and other capabilities, many of the vehicles that are out there today don't have the hardware capabilities to be able to deliver that. We're looking at that as growth potential and really sizing the box for the future. As we continue to expand that. You know, we do have, like I said before in response to the other question, you know, with Super Cruise, it really is a case where the hardware is on there for people that buy it.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate that. You know, I think when we talk about the car park that's out there in the universe of GM vehicles, that really is meant to excuse me, signal the opportunity that exists going forward. As we continue to put SDV 2.0 and other capabilities, many of the vehicles that are out there today don't have the hardware capabilities to be able to deliver that. We're looking at that as growth potential and really sizing the box for the future. As we continue to expand that. You know, we do have, like I said before in response to the other question, you know, with Super Cruise, it really is a case where the hardware is on there for people that buy it.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Andrew. I appreciate that. So I think when we talk about the car park that's out there in the universe of GM vehicles, that really is meant to, excuse me, signal the opportunity that exists going forward.
Speaker #3: So as we continue to put SDV 2.0 and other capabilities, many of the vehicles that are out there today, don't have the hardware capabilities to be able to deliver that.
Speaker #3: So we're looking at that as growth potential and really sizing the box for the future as we continue to expand that. So we do have, like I said before in response to the other question, with Super Cruise, it really is a case where the hardware is on there for people that buy it.
Paul Jacobson: You know, as we continue to get the cost down, we can look to potentially approach the market differently on that. We see a ton of potential here because we're already driving approximately seven and a half billion dollars of deferred revenue by the end of this year with what we have. Really speaks to the opportunity that's ahead of us.
Paul Jacobson: You know, as we continue to get the cost down, we can look to potentially approach the market differently on that. We see a ton of potential here because we're already driving approximately seven and a half billion dollars of deferred revenue by the end of this year with what we have. Really speaks to the opportunity that's ahead of us.
Speaker #3: As we continue to get the cost down, we can look to potentially approach the market differently on that. But we see a ton of potential here because we're already driving approximately seven and a half billion dollars of deferred revenue by the end of this year with what we have.
Speaker #3: So really speaks to the opportunity that's ahead of us.
Andrew Percoco: Got it. That makes sense, and that's super helpful. I guess as a follow-up question to that, I think Super Cruise is available on, I think 750,000 miles of roads in the US. What's some of the gating factors in expanding that? Is it regulatory? Is it your own kind of risk appetite? Just help us think through what some of the kind of gating factors are there. Thank you.
Andrew Percoco: Got it. That makes sense, and that's super helpful. I guess as a follow-up question to that, I think Super Cruise is available on, I think 750,000 miles of roads in the US. What's some of the gating factors in expanding that? Is it regulatory? Is it your own kind of risk appetite? Just help us think through what some of the kind of gating factors are there. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Got it. That makes sense, and that's super helpful. And I guess, as a follow-up question to that, I think Super Cruise is available on, I think, 750,000 miles of roads in the U.S.
Speaker #4: What's some of the gating factors in expanding that? Is it regulatory? Is it your own kind of risk appetite? Just help us think through what some of the kind of gating factors are there.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Mary Barra: It really is, as the company looks, it's both from, in many cases, you know, we have lidar map with the current system, but and it's also, you know, we've really focused on highway and major roads. It's a focus that we continue to look at how we expand. As you've seen from when we first launched Super Cruise and it started on a certain amount of roads, we continue to expand that over time. We are now on additional roads, not just highways, and we'll continue to look at the opportunities to do that and making sure we do the technology correctly, because one of the things we're most proud of from a Super Cruise perspective is it's viewed as extremely safe.
Mary Barra: It really is, as the company looks, it's both from, in many cases, you know, we have lidar map with the current system, but and it's also, you know, we've really focused on highway and major roads. It's a focus that we continue to look at how we expand. As you've seen from when we first launched Super Cruise and it started on a certain amount of roads, we continue to expand that over time. We are now on additional roads, not just highways, and we'll continue to look at the opportunities to do that and making sure we do the technology correctly, because one of the things we're most proud of from a Super Cruise perspective is it's viewed as extremely safe.
Speaker #6: It really is as the company looks. It's both from, in many cases, we have LIDAR mapped with the current system. And it's also we've really focused on highway and major roads and so it's a focus that we continue to look as how we expand and as you've seen from when we first launched Super Cruise and it started on a certain amount of roads, we continue to expand that over time.
Speaker #6: So, we are now on additional roads, not just highways. And we'll continue to look at the opportunities to do that, making sure we do the technology correctly, because one of the things we're most proud of from a Super Cruise perspective is it's viewed as extremely safe. The customers—we're building a lot of trust with Super Cruise as we do that, which I think will also play well as we launch our next generation with the Escalade IQ, with the eyes off, hands off.
Mary Barra: The customers, you know, we're building a lot of trust with Super Cruise as we do that, which I think will also play well as we launch our next generation with the Escalade IQ, with the eyes off, hands off.
Mary Barra: The customers, you know, we're building a lot of trust with Super Cruise as we do that, which I think will also play well as we launch our next generation with the Escalade IQ, with the eyes off, hands off.
Andrew Percoco: Awesome. Thanks so much for taking the questions.
Andrew Percoco: Awesome. Thanks so much for taking the questions.
Speaker #4: Awesome. Thanks so much for taking the questions.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Dan Levy with Barclays. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Dan Levy with Barclays. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from Dan Levy with Barclays. Your line is open.
Dan Levy: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Paul, you mentioned earlier that, you know, some of these commodity costs are staggered, and they hit on the leg. Presumably, if possible, you'll be facing, you know, somewhat of an incremental headwind in 2027. Now I know you're probably not prepared to outline what the magnitude of that headwind might be, although I'd be curious to know. Just wondering, how much do you have in your back pocket on cost mitigation that even if the inflation on these commodities continues to rise into 2027, that that can be neutralized?
Dan Levy: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Paul, you mentioned earlier that, you know, some of these commodity costs are staggered, and they hit on the leg. Presumably, if possible, you'll be facing, you know, somewhat of an incremental headwind in 2027. Now I know you're probably not prepared to outline what the magnitude of that headwind might be, although I'd be curious to know. Just wondering, how much do you have in your back pocket on cost mitigation that even if the inflation on these commodities continues to rise into 2027, that that can be neutralized?
Speaker #7: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Paul, you mentioned earlier that some of these commodity costs are staggered and they hit on the leg.
Speaker #7: So presumably, if costs hold, you'll be facing somewhat of an incremental headwind in 27. Now, I know you're probably not prepared to outline what that magnitude of that headwind might be, although I'd be curious to know.
Speaker #7: But just wondering, how much do you have in your back pocket on cost mitigation that even if the inflation on these commodities continues to rise into 27, that that can be neutralized?
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, Dan, you know, you're right. It is way too early to speculate on 2027. You know, as we talked about the pressure that we're seeing right now is a function of the forward curve. That forward curve is gonna change 200 times between now and 2027. You know, it's way too early. If you think about, you know, where we are, and we started to outline this at prior presentations, that the momentum we have in 2026, and what we're starting with warranty improvement, EV profitability improvement, regulatory cost improvement should all continue to be tailwinds in 2027 for us as well.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah, Dan, you know, you're right. It is way too early to speculate on 2027. You know, as we talked about the pressure that we're seeing right now is a function of the forward curve. That forward curve is gonna change 200 times between now and 2027. You know, it's way too early. If you think about, you know, where we are, and we started to outline this at prior presentations, that the momentum we have in 2026, and what we're starting with warranty improvement, EV profitability improvement, regulatory cost improvement should all continue to be tailwinds in 2027 for us as well.
Speaker #3: Yeah, Dan, you're right. It is way too early to speculate on 2027. As we talked about, the pressure that we're seeing right now as a function of the forward curve—that forward curve is going to change 200 times between now and 2027.
Speaker #3: So it's way too early. But if you think about where we are and we started to outline this at prior presentations, that the momentum we have in 26 and what we're starting with warranty improvement, EV profitability improvement, regulatory cost improvement should all continue to be tailwinds in 2027 for us as well.
Paul Jacobson: In addition, you know, we've talked about the, we basically have stopped production at many of our cell plants to work down our inventory levels, which means we're not capturing the production tax credits that we have in prior years. When we get battery cell inventory to a normal level, that will get us to a point where we can start to collect those going forward, as well as the improved profitability of EVs. Then you look at the product portfolio with the new pickups coming in 2027, end of this year and into 2027, you start to see some momentum, but way too early to speculate.
Paul Jacobson: In addition, you know, we've talked about the, we basically have stopped production at many of our cell plants to work down our inventory levels, which means we're not capturing the production tax credits that we have in prior years. When we get battery cell inventory to a normal level, that will get us to a point where we can start to collect those going forward, as well as the improved profitability of EVs. Then you look at the product portfolio with the new pickups coming in 2027, end of this year and into 2027, you start to see some momentum, but way too early to speculate.
Speaker #3: And in addition, we've talked about the we basically have stopped production at many of our cell plants to work down our inventory levels, which means we're not capturing the production tax credits that we have in prior years.
Speaker #3: That, when we get battery cell inventory, to a normal level, that will get us to a point where we can start to collect those going forward as well as the improved profitability of EVs.
Speaker #3: And then you look at the product portfolio with the new pickups coming in 2027, end of this year, and into 2027, you start to see some momentum.
Speaker #3: But way too early to speculate. We just at the end of the day, we're executing on what we see. And planning for future contingencies should we need to, should we need to do that.
Paul Jacobson: We just, you know, at the end of the day, we're executing on what we see and planning for future contingencies should we need to do that.
Paul Jacobson: We just, you know, at the end of the day, we're executing on what we see and planning for future contingencies should we need to do that.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you. As a follow-up, I wanted to double-click on some of the competitive dynamics within large pickups, because I think there's been some attention on one of your competitors that's trying to pick up shares. I'm wondering if you can help just to double-click within the share dynamics. We know that there is a large skew in the profitability within some of the subsegments within large pickups. Maybe you could just tell us, you know, we see the overall data, but within some of the more profitable areas within large pickups, are you still holding your share, and it's that some of those share gains from your competitor are coming at the less profitable areas, and that doesn't matter as much to you?
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you. As a follow-up, I wanted to double-click on some of the competitive dynamics within large pickups, because I think there's been some attention on one of your competitors that's trying to pick up shares. I'm wondering if you can help just to double-click within the share dynamics. We know that there is a large skew in the profitability within some of the subsegments within large pickups. Maybe you could just tell us, you know, we see the overall data, but within some of the more profitable areas within large pickups, are you still holding your share, and it's that some of those share gains from your competitor are coming at the less profitable areas, and that doesn't matter as much to you?
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you. As a follow-up, I wanted to double-click on some of the competitive dynamics within large pickups because I think there's been some attention on one of your competitors, that's trying to pick up shares.
Speaker #7: So I'm wondering if you can help just to double-click within the share dynamics. We know that there is a large skew in the profitability within some of the subsegments within large pickups.
Speaker #7: Maybe you could just tell us we see the overall data, but within some of the more profitable areas within large pickups, are you still holding your share and it's that some of those share gains from your competitor are coming at the less profitable areas and that doesn't matter as much to you?
Mary Barra: Well, I, you know, I think, we, because of some of the issues of ending the year so strong that we were low on inventory, and then with the planned downtime we took, we still had very strong demand for our trucks. We're not seeing strong demand across the board in the upside, but we want to welcome every truck customer. I think because of our lean inventories, and if you look at some of the incentive rates of some of the competitors, you can see how disciplined we are and still selling every truck that we can.
Mary Barra: Well, I, you know, I think, we, because of some of the issues of ending the year so strong that we were low on inventory, and then with the planned downtime we took, we still had very strong demand for our trucks. We're not seeing strong demand across the board in the upside, but we want to welcome every truck customer. I think because of our lean inventories, and if you look at some of the incentive rates of some of the competitors, you can see how disciplined we are and still selling every truck that we can.
Speaker #6: Well, I think we because of some of the issues of ending the year so strong that we were low in inventory and then with the planned downtime, we still had very strong demand for our trucks.
Speaker #6: And we're not seeing I mean, we're seeing strong demand across the board in the upside. But we want to welcome every truck customer. I think because of our lean inventories, and if you look at some of the incentive rates of some of the competitors, you can see how disciplined we are and still selling every truck that we can.
Mary Barra: I think that's the formula and the recipe that we're gonna continue to do is work to earn every truck buyer in a disciplined way because of the strength of our products. It's across the board.
Mary Barra: I think that's the formula and the recipe that we're gonna continue to do is work to earn every truck buyer in a disciplined way because of the strength of our products. It's across the board.
Speaker #6: And so I think that's the formula and the recipe that we're going to continue to do is work to earn every truck buyer in a disciplined way because of the strength of our products.
Speaker #6: So it's across the board.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question is from Alexander Perry with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from Alexander Perry with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question is from Alex Perry with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Alexander Perry: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions here. I just wanted to follow up a bit on the input cost inflation, that you guys are seeing. I guess, what commodities in particular can you remind us, where you're hedged? Are you starting to see any shortages in any raw materials, or are you concerned at all of shortages, if the war sort of persists here?
Alexander Perry: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions here. I just wanted to follow up a bit on the input cost inflation, that you guys are seeing. I guess, what commodities in particular can you remind us, where you're hedged? Are you starting to see any shortages in any raw materials, or are you concerned at all of shortages, if the war sort of persists here?
Speaker #7: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions here. I just wanted to follow up a bit on the input cost inflation that you guys are seeing.
Speaker #7: I guess, what commodities in particular can you remind us where you are hedged and then are you starting to see any shortages in any raw materials?
Speaker #7: Are you concerned at all of shortages if the war sort of persists here?
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. Good morning, Alex. Thanks for the question. You know, we vary our hedge levels based on commodities. We're kind of seeing pressure a little bit across the board as you would expect, primarily driven by higher energy prices, et cetera. We're not projecting or worried about any shortages right now. I think the supply chain team has continued to prove their resolve through yet another challenge as we've seen them do in years past. No shortages. You know, on the commodity side, it depends, 25% to 50% hedged. That certainly helped us in the aluminum space this year. Overall, you know, I think it's pretty manageable from that standpoint. We're just gonna continue to watch it.
Paul Jacobson: Yeah. Good morning, Alex. Thanks for the question. You know, we vary our hedge levels based on commodities. We're kind of seeing pressure a little bit across the board as you would expect, primarily driven by higher energy prices, et cetera. We're not projecting or worried about any shortages right now. I think the supply chain team has continued to prove their resolve through yet another challenge as we've seen them do in years past. No shortages. You know, on the commodity side, it depends, 25% to 50% hedged. That certainly helped us in the aluminum space this year. Overall, you know, I think it's pretty manageable from that standpoint. We're just gonna continue to watch it.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Good morning, Alex. Thanks for the question. We bury our hedge levels based on commodities. We're kind of seeing pressure a little bit across the board as you would expect.
Speaker #3: Primarily driven by higher energy prices. Etc. We're not projecting or worried about any shortages right now. And I think the supply chain team is continuing to prove their resolve through yet another challenge as we've seen them do in years past.
Speaker #3: So no shortages. On the commodity side, it depends 25 to 50 percent hedged. That's certainly helped us in the aluminum space. This year. But overall, I think it's pretty manageable from that standpoint.
Speaker #3: We're just going to continue to watch it. I think the hedges and the staggered steel contracts buy us a little bit of time to adjust the business, which is why we do it that way.
Paul Jacobson: I think, you know, the hedges and the staggered steel contracts buy us a little bit of time to adjust the business, which is why we do it that way. Overall, no real concerns right now.
Paul Jacobson: I think, you know, the hedges and the staggered steel contracts buy us a little bit of time to adjust the business, which is why we do it that way. Overall, no real concerns right now.
Speaker #3: But overall, no real concerns right now.
Alexander Perry: Perfect. Could you just remind us on the cadence of the wholesale volumes for the year, with the refresh coming, any change to seasonality? I guess as a follow-up to the inventory question, is the expectation that you'll be able to rebuild some of the depleted truck inventory? Then just on pricing, are you sort of holding that flat to up 50 BP pricing guide for the year?
Alexander Perry: Perfect. Could you just remind us on the cadence of the wholesale volumes for the year, with the refresh coming, any change to seasonality? I guess as a follow-up to the inventory question, is the expectation that you'll be able to rebuild some of the depleted truck inventory? Then just on pricing, are you sort of holding that flat to up 50 BP pricing guide for the year?
Speaker #7: Perfect. And then could you just remind us on the cadence of the wholesale volumes for the year? With the refresh coming, any change this seasonality?
Speaker #7: And I guess as a follow-up to the inventory question, is the expectation that you'll be able to rebuild some of the depleted truck inventory?
Speaker #7: And then just on pricing, are you sort of holding that flat to up 50 bips pricing guide for the year?
Paul Jacobson: No, no change to our pricing guide. I would say no change to the regular cadence on wholesale, across the board. You know, we do have the opportunity, I think, to get a little bit of made up deficit on the inventory shortfalls that we've had. We saw some of that come in late in the quarter, that are making their way into showrooms, or have made their way into showrooms this month. We're going to continue to work and try to manage it in that 50 to 60-day range. The team has done a really good job of trying to make that up.
Paul Jacobson: No, no change to our pricing guide. I would say no change to the regular cadence on wholesale, across the board. You know, we do have the opportunity, I think, to get a little bit of made up deficit on the inventory shortfalls that we've had. We saw some of that come in late in the quarter, that are making their way into showrooms, or have made their way into showrooms this month. We're going to continue to work and try to manage it in that 50 to 60-day range. The team has done a really good job of trying to make that up.
Speaker #3: Yeah. No change to our pricing guide. I would say no change to the regular cadence on wholesale. Across the board, we do have the opportunity.
Speaker #3: I think to get a little bit of made-up deficit on the inventory shortfalls that we've had. We saw some of that come in late in the quarter.
Speaker #3: That are making their way into showrooms or have made their way into showrooms this month. But we're going to continue to work and try to manage it in that 50 to 60-day range.
Speaker #3: And the team's done a really good job of trying to make that up.
Alexander Perry: Perfect. That is very helpful. Best luck going forward.
Alexander Perry: Perfect. That is very helpful. Best luck going forward.
Speaker #7: Perfect. That's very helpful. Best of luck going forward.
Paul Jacobson: Thanks, Alex.
Paul Jacobson: Thanks, Alex.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Alex.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Chris McNally with Evercore. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Chris McNally with Evercore. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from Chris McNally with Evercore. Your line is open.
Chris McNally: Thanks so much, team. I guess as we're, you know, hitting the end of the call, I wanted to think a little bit further out. You know, one of the discussions of, you know, for the first time in a decade, GM is gonna have the ability to have, you know, more capacity in pickups and SUVs, you know, given, you know, I think you guys saw it much earlier than everyone else about reshoring. You'll have both Orion plus Mexico that will still have capacity. You know, not numbers, but more strategic, where do you think GM could theoretically sell, you know, more of these higher value add vehicles? Is it the upper end of the market, lower end of the market?
Chris McNally: Thanks so much, team. I guess as we're, you know, hitting the end of the call, I wanted to think a little bit further out. You know, one of the discussions of, you know, for the first time in a decade, GM is gonna have the ability to have, you know, more capacity in pickups and SUVs, you know, given, you know, I think you guys saw it much earlier than everyone else about reshoring. You'll have both Orion plus Mexico that will still have capacity. You know, not numbers, but more strategic, where do you think GM could theoretically sell, you know, more of these higher value add vehicles? Is it the upper end of the market, lower end of the market?
Speaker #8: Thanks so much, team. I guess as we're hitting the end of the call, I wanted to think a little bit further out. One of the discussions for the first time in a decade, GM is going to have the ability to have more capacity in pickups and SUVs, given I think you guys saw it much earlier than everyone else about reshoring.
Speaker #8: So you'll have both Orion plus Mexico that will still have capacity not numbers, but more strategic where do you think GM could theoretically sell more of these higher-value-add vehicles?
Speaker #8: Is it the upper end of the market, lower end of the market? Is it non-North America, where you can sell in Mexico and Latin America?
Chris McNally: Is it non-North America where you can sell in Mexico and Latin America? Just a little bit about the strategy 2027, 2028, 2029 after Orion's done. You know, where could you sort of increase the absolute number of pickups and SUVs that you could sell?
Chris McNally: Is it non-North America where you can sell in Mexico and Latin America? Just a little bit about the strategy 2027, 2028, 2029 after Orion's done. You know, where could you sort of increase the absolute number of pickups and SUVs that you could sell?
Speaker #8: But just a little bit about the strategy 27, 28, 29 after Orion's done. Where could you sort of increase the absolute number of pickups and SUVs that you could sell?
Mary Barra: Well, I think, you know, we'd look and Paul already mentioned that we shifted some production from the Middle East. Usually, that's a very strong market. After this conflict ends, I think there's upside there. There's upside in many other markets, not only in full-size trucks, but also in full-size SUVs, both in the US as well as globally. Those tend to run on the higher contented vehicles. I'm extremely excited about the upside opportunity when we have more full-size SUVs and more trucks to really serve the globe as well as demand in the United States. It's a huge opportunity for us as that plant comes online.
Mary Barra: Well, I think, you know, we'd look and Paul already mentioned that we shifted some production from the Middle East. Usually, that's a very strong market. After this conflict ends, I think there's upside there. There's upside in many other markets, not only in full-size trucks, but also in full-size SUVs, both in the US as well as globally. Those tend to run on the higher contented vehicles. I'm extremely excited about the upside opportunity when we have more full-size SUVs and more trucks to really serve the globe as well as demand in the United States. It's a huge opportunity for us as that plant comes online.
Speaker #6: Well, I think we'd look and Paul already mentioned that we shifted some production from the Middle East. Usually, that's a very strong market. So after this conflict ends, I think there's upside there.
Speaker #6: There's upside in many other markets, not only in full-size trucks, but also in full-size SUVs. Both in the US as well as globally. And those tend to run on the higher-contented vehicles.
Speaker #6: So I'm extremely excited about the upside opportunity when we have more full-size SUVs and more trucks to really serve the globe as well as demand in the United States.
Speaker #6: So it's a huge opportunity for us as that plant comes online.
Chris McNally: I guess the follow on is, you know, around the USMCA. I mean, I imagine, you know, the determination of how much capacity you would wanna keep in Mexico, even after Orion is done, is somewhat dependent upon sort of this next level of USMCA where, you know, I think everyone believes at some point we'll have some logic where we get back from 25% to something closer to the global import average of 15%. Is that fair to say that some of this stuff is gonna have to be live to see where, you know, USMCA final negotiations are, which is most likely H2, if not even maybe early 2025? We're gonna have to wait and see on some of those numbers?
Chris McNally: I guess the follow on is, you know, around the USMCA. I mean, I imagine, you know, the determination of how much capacity you would wanna keep in Mexico, even after Orion is done, is somewhat dependent upon sort of this next level of USMCA where, you know, I think everyone believes at some point we'll have some logic where we get back from 25% to something closer to the global import average of 15%. Is that fair to say that some of this stuff is gonna have to be live to see where, you know, USMCA final negotiations are, which is most likely H2, if not even maybe early 2025? We're gonna have to wait and see on some of those numbers?
Speaker #8: And then I guess the follow-on is around the USMCA. I mean, I imagine the determination of how much capacity you would want to keep in Mexico, even after Orion is done, is somewhat dependent upon sort of this next level of USMCA where I think everyone believes at some point we'll have some logic where we get back from 25% to something closer to the global import average of 15%.
Speaker #8: Is that fair to say that some of this stuff is going to have to be live to see where USMCA final negotiations are, which is most likely second half, if not even maybe early next year?
Speaker #8: So we're going to have to wait and see on some of those numbers?
Mary Barra: Well, we think, we understand, and it's a part of the USMCA process that it is updated periodically. We're in that review right now to see how it changes. We think having the appropriate levels around USMCA is very important for the US automakers to compete with the rest of the globe that leverages whether it's other countries in Asia or Eastern Europe, et cetera, from a cost perspective. You know, we've moved several vehicles and have the opportunity to build them in the US, and we think we've looked at the footprint extremely strategically with the moves that we've decided to make. I think we're gonna be well-positioned to respond to not only US demand, but global demand.
Mary Barra: Well, we think, we understand, and it's a part of the USMCA process that it is updated periodically. We're in that review right now to see how it changes. We think having the appropriate levels around USMCA is very important for the US automakers to compete with the rest of the globe that leverages whether it's other countries in Asia or Eastern Europe, et cetera, from a cost perspective. You know, we've moved several vehicles and have the opportunity to build them in the US, and we think we've looked at the footprint extremely strategically with the moves that we've decided to make. I think we're gonna be well-positioned to respond to not only US demand, but global demand.
Speaker #6: Well, we think we understand and it's a part of the USMCA process that it is updated periodically. We're in that review right now to see how it changes.
Speaker #6: We think having the appropriate levels around USMCA is very important for the US automakers to compete. With the rest of the globe, that leverages whether it's other countries in Asia or Eastern Europe, etc.
Speaker #6: From a cost perspective, we've moved several vehicles and have the opportunity to build them in the US. And we think we've looked at the footprint extremely strategically with the moves that we decided we've decided to make.
Speaker #6: So I think we're going to be well positioned to respond to not only U.S. demand, but global demand. So I think our look at USMCA is not so much of a footprint issue.
Mary Barra: I think our look at USMCA is not so much of a footprint issue, it's more of making sure it's done in such a way that we can compete with those, even though, and have a level playing field, not only with the vehicles, the tariff on the vehicle, but the tariff on the parts and the underlying cost of those parts. That's the, you know, work that we're doing now to make sure that the administration and those involved in the USMCA negotiations understand. I, and I have to say that I think the administration has been very good. You know, having a deep understanding and want to understand what unintended consequences could be, so they further strengthen American manufacturing, not the reverse.
Mary Barra: I think our look at USMCA is not so much of a footprint issue, it's more of making sure it's done in such a way that we can compete with those, even though, and have a level playing field, not only with the vehicles, the tariff on the vehicle, but the tariff on the parts and the underlying cost of those parts. That's the, you know, work that we're doing now to make sure that the administration and those involved in the USMCA negotiations understand. I, and I have to say that I think the administration has been very good. You know, having a deep understanding and want to understand what unintended consequences could be, so they further strengthen American manufacturing, not the reverse.
Speaker #6: It's more of making sure it's done in such a way that we can compete with those, even though, and have a level playing field—not only with the vehicles, with the tariff on the vehicle, but the tariff on the parts and the underlying cost of those parts.
Speaker #6: And so, that's the work that we're doing now to make sure that the administration and those involved in the USMCA negotiations understand. And I have to say that I think the administration has been very good at having a deep understanding and wanting to understand what unintended consequences could be, so they further strengthen American manufacturing, not the reverse.
Mary Barra: We're, you know, we're going to provide, continue to provide our input, and we look forward to having USMCA revised in a way that is appropriate to achieve the administration's goals as well as strengthen the US manufacturing.
Mary Barra: We're, you know, we're going to provide, continue to provide our input, and we look forward to having USMCA revised in a way that is appropriate to achieve the administration's goals as well as strengthen the US manufacturing.
Speaker #6: So we're going to continue to provide our input, and we look forward to having USMCA revised in a way that is appropriate to achieve the administration's goals, as well as strengthen US manufacturing.
Chris McNally: Great. Thanks so much, Mary.
Chris McNally: Great. Thanks so much, Mary.
Speaker #7: Great. Thanks so much, Mary.
Operator 2: Thank you. Our last question comes from Ryan Brinkman with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our last question comes from Ryan Brinkman with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And our last question comes from Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Ryan Brinkman: Ryan, thanks for squeezing me in. Could you maybe comment on your operations in China, how far along you might be with regard to some of the product portfolio refresh initiatives you've talked about on some of these earlier calls, including the NEV push? Also with regard to, you know, some of those operational restructuring initiatives you've talked about in taking charges for in the past. Just trying to look at, like, the equity income that we see for the quarter, $165 million, the ability to annualize that sort of the, you know, the run rate of profitability your operations are at, you know, once they are done with these, you know, improvement initiatives or where could they get to if you complete that path?
Ryan Brinkman: Ryan, thanks for squeezing me in. Could you maybe comment on your operations in China, how far along you might be with regard to some of the product portfolio refresh initiatives you've talked about on some of these earlier calls, including the NEV push? Also with regard to, you know, some of those operational restructuring initiatives you've talked about in taking charges for in the past. Just trying to look at, like, the equity income that we see for the quarter, $165 million, the ability to annualize that sort of the, you know, the run rate of profitability your operations are at, you know, once they are done with these, you know, improvement initiatives or where could they get to if you complete that path?
Speaker #9: All right, thanks for squeezing me in. Could you maybe comment on your operations in China? How far along you might be with regard to some of the product portfolio refresh initiatives we've talked about on some of these earlier calls, including the NEV push?
Speaker #9: And then, also with regard to some of those operational restructuring initiatives you've talked about and taken charges for in the past, just trying to look at the equity income that we see for the quarter—$165 million—the ability to annualize that, is that sort of the run rate of profitability your operations are at once they're done with these improvement initiatives? Or where could they get to if you complete that path?
Mary Barra: Well, I'm very pleased with the restructuring work that we've done in China, and I think we continue to be one of the only, if not one of the only Western OEMs that is profitable and growing share in the market. I think over the last few years, we've launched some very important products, including our luxury van that's a premium segment, a premium product in the market. I think we're continuing to work on having the right portfolio.
Mary Barra: Well, I'm very pleased with the restructuring work that we've done in China, and I think we continue to be one of the only, if not one of the only Western OEMs that is profitable and growing share in the market. I think over the last few years, we've launched some very important products, including our luxury van that's a premium segment, a premium product in the market. I think we're continuing to work on having the right portfolio.
Speaker #6: Well, I'm very pleased with the restructuring work that we've done in China, and I think we continue to be one of the only, if not the only, Western OEMs that is profitable and growing share.
Speaker #6: In the market, I think over the last few years, we've launched some very important products, including our luxury van that's a premium segment, a premium product in the market.
Speaker #6: So I think we're continuing to work on having the right portfolio, while also, say, the software and the services aspects of the vehicle as we've launched, and the new system that we're launching now across the portfolio is rated higher than many of the Chinese OEMs when you look at it from—this is an external rating—from a usage perspective.
Mary Barra: What I'd also say, the software and the services aspects of the vehicle, as we've launched and the new system that we're launching now across the portfolio is rated, is rated higher than many of the Chinese OEMs, when you look at it, this is an external rating from a usage perspective. I think you can see us moving to have the right product portfolio with the right software and services to be able to continue to grow share. Having said that, the China market is seeing some weakness, you know, we're gonna continue to monitor that. I'm not in a position that I'm gonna project what our equity income goals are.
Mary Barra: What I'd also say, the software and the services aspects of the vehicle, as we've launched and the new system that we're launching now across the portfolio is rated, is rated higher than many of the Chinese OEMs, when you look at it, this is an external rating from a usage perspective. I think you can see us moving to have the right product portfolio with the right software and services to be able to continue to grow share. Having said that, the China market is seeing some weakness, you know, we're gonna continue to monitor that. I'm not in a position that I'm gonna project what our equity income goals are.
Speaker #6: So I think you can see us moving to have the right product portfolio with the right software and services to be able to continue to grow share.
Speaker #6: Having said that, the China market is seeing some weakness. And so we're going to continue to monitor that. So I'm not in a position that I'm going to project what our equity income goals are.
Mary Barra: We wanna see those continue to grow, but it's gonna be having the right product portfolio and competing effectively, which I'm proud of the team 'cause that's exactly what they're doing. As related to additional restructuring costs, Paul, I don't have any comment specifically on that. I don't know if there's any comment you want to make.
Mary Barra: We wanna see those continue to grow, but it's gonna be having the right product portfolio and competing effectively, which I'm proud of the team 'cause that's exactly what they're doing. As related to additional restructuring costs, Paul, I don't have any comment specifically on that. I don't know if there's any comment you want to make.
Speaker #6: We want to see those continue to grow, but it's going to be having the right product portfolio and competing effectively, which I'm proud of the team because that's exactly what they're doing.
Speaker #6: And as related to additional restructuring costs, Paul, I don't have any comments specifically on that. I don't know if there's any comment you want to make.
Paul Jacobson: No, I think, you know, the team has done a really good job, from that standpoint. There's still some final, ticking and tying going on some of the actions that we've taken, but nothing material that we expect.
Paul Jacobson: No, I think, you know, the team has done a really good job, from that standpoint. There's still some final, ticking and tying going on some of the actions that we've taken, but nothing material that we expect.
Speaker #9: No, I think the team has done a really good job from that standpoint. There’s still some final ticking and tying going on with some of the actions that we’ve taken, but nothing material that we expect.
Ryan Brinkman: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. Just as a follow-up, you know, given some of the weakness that you alluded to, Mary, and, you know, some of the other unhealthy aspects of the China market with the overcapacity, et cetera, I think exports have been, you know, attractive release valve. Just curious if you'd comment on, you know, your export business from China, you know, with regard to Wuling or what progress have you made there? Is that a more profitable part of your business in China, and how do you see that potential evolving?
Ryan Brinkman: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. Just as a follow-up, you know, given some of the weakness that you alluded to, Mary, and, you know, some of the other unhealthy aspects of the China market with the overcapacity, et cetera, I think exports have been, you know, attractive release valve. Just curious if you'd comment on, you know, your export business from China, you know, with regard to Wuling or what progress have you made there? Is that a more profitable part of your business in China, and how do you see that potential evolving?
Speaker #7: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. And just as a follow-up, given some of the weakness that you alluded to, Mary, and some of the other unhealthy aspects of the China market, with the overcapacity, etc., I think exports have been an attractive release valve.
Speaker #7: And just curious, if you comment on your export business from China, with regard to Wuling or what progress have you made there? Are those is that a more profitable part of your business in China?
Speaker #7: And how do you see that potential evolving?
Mary Barra: Well, in the markets outside of the US where, you know, there already is significant Chinese participation, we have both, I'll say products from that were designed and developed in the United States, as well as those from China, and especially at some of the price points to meet some of the more price-sensitive developing markets. I think we've seen success of what the right recipe is to have a strong product at the right price point to participate in those markets. We'll continue to look at those opportunities and continue to refresh the portfolio, again, with products sourced from multiple locations. I think that is a strength for us.
Mary Barra: Well, in the markets outside of the US where, you know, there already is significant Chinese participation, we have both, I'll say products from that were designed and developed in the United States, as well as those from China, and especially at some of the price points to meet some of the more price-sensitive developing markets. I think we've seen success of what the right recipe is to have a strong product at the right price point to participate in those markets. We'll continue to look at those opportunities and continue to refresh the portfolio, again, with products sourced from multiple locations. I think that is a strength for us.
Speaker #6: Well, in the markets, outside of the US, where there already is significant Chinese participation, we have both, I'll say, products from that were designed and developed in the United States as well as those from China.
Speaker #6: And especially at some of the price points, to meet some of the more price-sensitive developing markets, I think we've seen success of what the right recipe is to have a strong product at the right price point to participate in those markets.
Speaker #6: So we'll continue to look at those opportunities and continue to refresh the portfolio, again, with products sourced from multiple locations. But I think that is a strength for us.
Ryan Brinkman: Great. Thank you.
Ryan Brinkman: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you.
Operator 2: Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mary Barra for her closing comments.
Operator: Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mary Barra for her closing comments.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mary Barra for her closing comments.
Mary Barra: Well, thank you, and thanks to everybody for your questions. I hope you see that we're clearly operating in a very dynamic environment, but that's not unusual for the industry, and that's why we have a multi-year focus to ensure we have the right products, the right team, and a strong balance sheet supported by healthy cash flows to achieve our long-term goals and execute on our capital allocation strategy, regardless of the short-term volatility or longer-term cyclicality. To sum it up, we're executing well against our plan, and we've shown quarter after quarter that we have durable earnings, we're growing our software revenue, we're disciplined with our capital allocation, and we have multiple paths to profitable growth. We have strong momentum in the core business, thanks to our broad and deep portfolio of vehicles.
Mary Barra: Well, thank you, and thanks to everybody for your questions. I hope you see that we're clearly operating in a very dynamic environment, but that's not unusual for the industry, and that's why we have a multi-year focus to ensure we have the right products, the right team, and a strong balance sheet supported by healthy cash flows to achieve our long-term goals and execute on our capital allocation strategy, regardless of the short-term volatility or longer-term cyclicality. To sum it up, we're executing well against our plan, and we've shown quarter after quarter that we have durable earnings, we're growing our software revenue, we're disciplined with our capital allocation, and we have multiple paths to profitable growth. We have strong momentum in the core business, thanks to our broad and deep portfolio of vehicles.
Speaker #6: Well, thank you. And thanks to everybody for your questions. I hope you see that we're clearly operating in a very dynamic environment, but that's not unusual for the industry.
Speaker #6: And that's why we have a multi-year focus to ensure we have the right products, the right team, and a strong balance sheet supported by healthy cash flows to achieve our long-term goals and execute on our capital allocation strategy, regardless of the short-term volatility or longer-term cyclicality.
Speaker #6: To sum it up, we're executing well against our plan, and we've shown quarter after quarter that we have durable earnings. We're growing our software revenue.
Speaker #6: We're disciplined with our capital allocation, and we have multiple paths to profitable growth. We have strong momentum in the core business thanks to our broad and deep portfolio of vehicles.
Mary Barra: We remain focused on delivering 8% to 10% North American margins this year. Our OnStar digital business, which includes Super Cruise, is contributing to high margin revenue growth. I'll remind everyone that is not cyclical. We're advancing automated driving technology in a way that separates GM from other companies. Finally, we're addressing the near-term cost impacts of higher costs. We're prepared to respond quickly and strategically as the market continues to develop. Once again, thank you for joining us. I hope everyone has a good day.
Mary Barra: We remain focused on delivering 8% to 10% North American margins this year. Our OnStar digital business, which includes Super Cruise, is contributing to high margin revenue growth. I'll remind everyone that is not cyclical. We're advancing automated driving technology in a way that separates GM from other companies. Finally, we're addressing the near-term cost impacts of higher costs. We're prepared to respond quickly and strategically as the market continues to develop. Once again, thank you for joining us. I hope everyone has a good day.
Speaker #6: We remain focused on delivering 8 to 10 percent North American margins this year. Our on-star digital business, which includes Super Cruise, is contributing to high margin revenue growth.
Speaker #6: And I'll remind everyone that this is not cyclical. And we're advancing automated driving technology in a way that separates GM from other companies. Finally, we're addressing the near-term impact of higher costs, and we're prepared to respond quickly and strategically as the market continues to develop.
Speaker #6: So once again, thank you for joining us, and I hope everyone has a good day.
Operator 2: That concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for joining.
Operator: That concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for joining.