Q1 2026 CTO Realty Growth Inc Earnings Call

April 29, 2026

Operator: Good day, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the CTO Realty Growth Q1 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jenna McKinney, Director of Finance. Please go ahead.

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Speaker #1: I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jenna McKinney, Director of Finance. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the CTO Realty Growth first quarter 2026 operating results conference call. Participating on the call this morning are John Albright, President and Chief Executive Officer; Philip Mays, Chief Financial Officer; and other members of the executive team that will be available to answer questions during the call.

Jenna McKinney: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the CTO Realty Growth Q1 2026 Operating Results Conference Call. Participating on the call this morning are John Albright, President and Chief Executive Officer, Philip Mays, Chief Financial Officer, and other members of the executive team that will be available to answer questions during the call. I would like to remind everyone that many of our comments today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. The company's actual future results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in these forward-looking statements, and we undertake no duty to update these statements. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are discussed from time to time in greater detail in the company's Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, and other SEC filings.

Speaker #2: I would like to remind everyone that many of our comments today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. The company's actual future results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in these forward-looking statements, and we undertake no duty to update these statements.

Speaker #2: Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are discussed from time to time in greater detail in the company's Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, and other SEC filings.

Speaker #2: You can find our SEC reports, earnings release, supplemental, and most recent investor presentation on our website at ctoreat.com. With that, I will turn the call over to John.

Jenna McKinney: You can find our SEC reports, earnings release, supplemental, and most recent investor presentation on our website at ctoreit.com. With that, I will turn the call over to John.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Jenna, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to report a strong quarter to start the year, highlighted by a robust leasing and strong same-store NOI growth, as well as a 81.6 million acquisition of a high-quality shopping center in Texas.

John Albright: Thanks, Jenna. Good morning everyone. We are pleased to report a strong quarter to start the year, highlighted by a robust leasing and strong same store NOI growth, as well as the $81.6 million acquisition of a high-quality shopping center in Texas. Our strategic focus on shopping centers located along growth corridors, primarily in the southeast and southwest markets of the United States, along with a proactive asset management and leasing, continues to produce strong results. Starting with retail leasing, during the quarter, we executed leases, renewals, and extensions totaling 153,000 square feet, including 146,000 square feet of comparable leases at an average cash rent increase of 14%.

Speaker #3: Our strategic focus on shopping centers located along growth corridors, primarily in the southeast and southwest markets of the United States, along with a proactive asset management and leasing continues to produce strong results.

Speaker #3: Starting with retail leasing, during the quarter, we executed leases, renewals, and extensions totaling 153,000 square feet including 146,000 square feet of comparable leases at an average cash rent increase of 14%.

Speaker #3: Our leasing activity for the quarter was spread across our portfolio but particularly positive at Millennia Crossing in Orlando, where we signed a lease with Williams Sonoma to fill the former mattress firm's space, and just after quarter-end, we signed a lease with Pottery Barn Kids to fill a space that had been vacant since we acquired the property.

John Albright: Our leasing activity for the quarter was spread across our portfolio, but particularly positive at Millenia Crossing in Orlando, where we signed a lease with Williams-Sonoma to fill the former Mattress Firm space. Just after quarter end, we signed a lease with Pottery Barn Kids to fill a space that had been vacant since we acquired the property. Combined, this activity has increased Millenia Crossing to 97% leased and improves the quality of the tenant roster and value of the asset. Further, our only shopping center with lease occupancy below 90% is now Carolina Pavilion at 83%. We are in active negotiations with tenants for all the remaining vacancy. We look forward to providing announcements of this leasing activity at this shopping center in the future. We're also making strong progress with the six outparcel opportunities we discussed on our last call.

Speaker #3: Combined, this activity has increased Millennia Crossing to 97% leased and improved the quality of the tenant roster and value of the asset. Further, our only shopping center with leased occupancy below 90% is now Carolina Pavilion at 83%, and we are in active negotiations with tenants for all the remaining vacancy.

Speaker #3: We look forward to providing announcements of this leasing activity at this shopping center in the future. We are also making strong progress with the six-out parcel opportunities we discussed on our last call.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, we signed a lease with Swig for a drive-through customized beverage store at Marketplace at Seminole Town Center located in Orlando. And just after quarter-end, we signed a lease with Cooper's Hawk at Ashley Park located in Atlanta Market.

John Albright: During the quarter, we signed a lease with Swig for a drive-thru customized beverage store at Marketplace at Seminole Towne Center located in Orlando. Just after quarter end, we signed a lease with Cooper's Hawk at Ashley Park, located in Atlanta market. In addition, we have executed LOIs or in active lease negotiations for the remaining 4 out parcels. We continue to expect these 6 out parcels to generate low double-digit unlevered yield on approximately $30 million of investment. We anticipate that this $30 million will primarily be deployed and begin contributing to earnings in 2027, with the full benefit expected to be recognized in 2028. We also look forward to providing additional announcements related to this initiative in the coming quarters.

Speaker #3: In addition, we have executed LOIs or inactive lease negotiations for the remaining four out parcels. We continue to expect these six out parcels to generate low double-digit unlevered yield on approximately $30 million of investment.

Speaker #3: We anticipate that this $30 million will primarily be deployed and begin contributing to earnings in 2027, with the full benefit expected to be recognized in 2028.

Speaker #3: We also look forward to providing additional announcements related to this initiative in the coming quarters. Reflecting our leasing progress at quarter-end, our portfolio was 95.4% leased and our signed not open pipeline totaled 6.2 million of annual cash-based rent representing approximately 5.5% of in-place annual cash-based rent.

John Albright: Reflecting our leasing progress at quarter end, our portfolio was 95.4% leased, and our signed not open pipeline totaled $6.2 million of annual cash base rent, representing approximately 5.5% of in-place annual cash base rent. We believe this pipeline of new lease revenue will provide a meaningful earnings tailwind beginning as we move through 2026 and into 2027. Further, leasing activity completed over the prior year for which tenants have commenced paying rent is already beginning to benefit NOI. For the quarter, same property NOI for shopping centers increased 6.8% compared to the comparable prior year period. Excluding the benefit of certain non-reoccurring items, same property NOI for shopping centers grew at a healthy 4.2%. Moving to investment activity.

Speaker #3: We believe this pipeline of new lease revenue will provide a meaningful earnings tailwind beginning as we move through 2026 and into 2027. Further, leasing activity completed over the prior year for which tenants have commenced paying rent is already beginning to benefit NOI.

Speaker #3: For the quarter, same property NOI for shopping centers increased 6.8% compared to the comparable prior-year period. Excluding the benefit of certain non-recurring items, same property NOI for shopping centers grew at a healthy 4.2%.

Speaker #3: Moving to investment activity, during the quarter, we announced an acquisition of Palms Crossing at $399,000 square foot open-air center located in McAllen, Texas for 81.6 million dollars.

John Albright: During the quarter, we announced an acquisition of Palms Crossing, a 399,000 sq ft open-air center located in McAllen, Texas for $81.6 million. Palms Crossing is anchored by Best Buy, Hobby Lobby, Burlington Coat Factory, Barnes & Noble, and Nike, and is currently 98% leased and benefits from strong cross-border shopping. This property also provides the opportunity to build up two additional out parcels beyond the six discussed earlier. With this acquisition, Texas is now our third largest state by ABR, and combined contribution from Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, and Texas increased to 85% of total ABR. On the property recycling front, Madison Yards, located in Atlanta, is under contract with a non-refundable deposit, and we expect the sale to close in May.

Speaker #3: Palms Crossing is anchored by Best Buy Hobby Lobby Burlington Coat Factory, Barnes & Noble, and Nike and is currently 98% leased and benefits from strong cross-border shopping.

Speaker #3: This property has also provided opportunity to develop two additional out parcels beyond the six discussed earlier. With this acquisition, Texas is now our third largest state by ABR in combined contribution from Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, and Texas increased to 85% of total ABR.

Speaker #3: On the property recycling front, Madison Yards located in Atlanta is under contract with a non-refundable deposit, and we expect to sell to close in May.

Speaker #3: Madison Yards is 99% leased, and the anticipated sale will enable us to extract value from a stabilized asset while also reducing our AMC Theater exposure to only two locations, which are both high-performing.

John Albright: Madison Yards is 99% leased, the anticipated sale would enable us to extract value from a stabilized asset while also reducing our AMC Theatres exposure to only 2 locations, which are both high performing. The anticipated sale, along with Palms Crossing acquisition, will complete the recycling proceeds at a positive cap rate spread, contributing to future earnings growth. As we move forward, we're evaluating additional property sales, focusing on recycling capital from stabilized properties into assets at positive initial yield spread, with the potential for value add opportunities and higher earnings growth in the future. Turning to our structured investments. During the quarter, we received full repayment of our 9.5%, $30 million preferred investment in Waters Creek Village. This repayment was expected and represents the only structured investment scheduled to mature in 2026.

Speaker #3: Further, the anticipated sale, along with the Palms Crossing acquisition, will complete the recycling proceeds at a positive cap rate spread, contributing to future earnings growth.

Speaker #3: As we move forward, we're evaluating additional property sales, focusing on recycling capital from stabilized properties into assets at positive initial yield spread, with a potential for value-add opportunities and higher earnings growth in the future.

Speaker #3: Now, turning to our structured investments. During the quarter, we received full repayment of our 9.5% $30 million preferred investment in Waters Creek Village. This repayment was expected and represents the only structured investment scheduled to mature in 2026.

Speaker #3: More notably, just after the quarter-end, we completed a $75 million preferred equity investment in a Class A Premier retail property located in the southwest.

John Albright: More notably, just after the quarter end, we completed a $75 million preferred equity investment in a Class A premier retail property located in the Southwest. This preferred investment yields 12% and has a term of 2 years. This activity increased our structured investment portfolio by $45 million to $158 million subsequent to quarter end, with a weighted average yield of 11.6%. In summary, 2026 is off to a great start, and we are in great position to sustain our growth in quarters ahead. Our portfolio continues to perform well and is supported by embedded growth drivers, including in-place below-market rents, our signed, not open pipeline, planned out parcel developments, and disciplined capital recycling.

Speaker #3: This preferred investment yields 12% and has a term of two years. This activity increased our structured investment portfolio by $45 million to $158 million subsequent to quarter-end.

Speaker #3: With a weighted average yield of 11.6%, in summary, 2026 is off to a great start, and we are in a great position to sustain our growth in the quarters ahead.

Speaker #3: Our portfolio continues to perform well and is supported by embedded growth drivers, including in-place below-market rents, our signed-not-open pipeline, planned outparcel developments, and disciplined capital recycling.

Speaker #3: Collectively, we believe that these initiatives can support meaningful earnings growth for several years to come and contribute to our increased guidance for core FFO and AFFO per diluted share to new ranges that imply approximately 12% growth at the midpoints.

John Albright: Collectively, we believe that these initiatives can support meaningful earnings growth for several years to come and contribute to our increased guidance for Core FFO and AFFO per diluted share to new ranges that imply approximately 12% growth at the midpoints. With that, I will now hand the call over to Phil.

Speaker #3: And with that, I will now hand the call over to Phil.

Speaker #1: Thanks, John. On this call, I will briefly highlight our earnings, provide an update on our balance sheet, and discuss our raised 2026 outlook. Starting with operating results.

Philip Mays: Thanks, John. On this call, I will briefly highlight our earnings, provide an update on our balance sheet, and discuss our raised 2026 outlook. Starting with operating results. For Q1, Core FFO was $16.9 million, a $2.5 million increase compared to $14.4 million reported in the comparable quarter of the prior year. On a diluted share basis was $0.52 per share versus $0.46 per share. AFFO was $18.2 million for the quarter, an increase of $2.7 million compared to $15.5 million reported in the comparable quarter of the prior year, on a diluted share basis was $0.56 per share versus $0.49 per share.

Speaker #1: For was 16.9 million dollars, a 2.5 million dollar increase compared to 14.4 million dollars reported in the comparable quarter of the prior year. And on a diluted share basis was 52 cents per share versus 46 cents per share.

Speaker #1: AFFO was 18.2 million dollars for the quarter, an increase of 2.7 million dollars compared to 15.5 million dollars reported in the comparable quarter of the prior year.

Speaker #1: And on a diluted share basis was 56 cents per share, versus 49 cents per share. The growth in both core FFO and AFFO was primarily driven by leases executed over the past year, that have since commenced paying rent, although it did include approximately 1 cent related to non-recurring recovery benefits from final 2025 CAM, real estate taxes, and insurance billings to tenants recorded in this quarter.

Philip Mays: The growth in both Core FFO and AFFO was primarily driven by leases executed over the past year that have since commenced paying rent, although it did include approximately $0.01 related to non-recurring recovery benefits from final 2025 CAM, real estate taxes, and insurance billings to tenants recorded in this quarter. With regards to property operations, as John mentioned, same-property NOI for shopping centers increased 6.8% in Q1 compared to the comparable quarter of the prior year. Excluding the non-recurring recovery benefits discussed earlier, same-property NOI for our shopping centers still increased a healthy 4.2%. Given the relatively small size of our same-property NOI, $200,000 impacts quarterly growth by approximately 100 basis points.

Speaker #1: With regards to property operations, as John mentioned, same property NOI for shopping centers increased 6.8% in the first quarter compared to the comparable quarter of the prior year.

Speaker #1: Excluding the non-recurring recovery benefits discussed earlier, same property NOI for our shopping centers still increased a healthy 4.2%. Given the relatively small size of our same property NOI, 200,000 dollars impacts quarterly growth by approximately 100 basis points.

Speaker #1: Accordingly, unusual and non-recurring items like this can occasionally skew our same property NOI, so we want to highlight the impact of such items when appropriate.

Philip Mays: Accordingly, unusual and non-recurring items like this can occasionally skew our same-property NOI, so we want to highlight the impact of such items when appropriate. Notably, shopping center properties represented 97% of total same-property NOI for the quarter. Total same-property NOI, including our few non-core properties, increased 3.4% for the quarter. This growth was impacted by one tenant, as previously announced, vacating 98,000 square feet at our Albuquerque property at the beginning of December 2025, which more than offset the non-recurring recovery benefits recorded. As a reminder, this vacancy has been fully leased to the state of New Mexico, which is expected to commence paying rent in late 2026. Moving to the balance sheet.

Speaker #1: Notably, shopping center properties represented 97% of total same property NOI for the quarter. Total same property NOI including our few non-corp properties increased 3.4% for the quarter.

Speaker #1: This growth was impacted by one tenant as previously announced, vacating 98,000 square feet at our Albuquerque property at the beginning of December 2025, which more than offset the non-recurring recovery benefits recorded.

Speaker #1: As a reminder, this vacancy has been fully leased to the state of New Mexico, which is expected to commence paying rent in late 2026.

Speaker #1: Moving to the balance sheet. At March 31st, 2026, we had total debt of 651.8 million dollars with a weighted average interest rate of 4.6%.

Philip Mays: At 31 March 2026, we had total debt of $651.8 million with a weighted average interest rate of 4.6%. We ended the quarter with approximately $125 million of liquidity and leverage at 6.4x net debt to pro forma adjusted EBITDA, which is consistent with the end of 2025. During the quarter, we opportunistically utilized our common ATM program to issue approximately 733,900 common shares at an average price of $19.59 per share for total net proceeds of $14.2 million.

Speaker #1: Further, we ended the quarter with approximately 125 million dollars of liquidity and leverage at 6.4 times net debt to pro forma adjusted EBITDA, which is consistent with the end of 2025.

Speaker #1: During the quarter, we opportunistically utilized our common ATM program to issue approximately 733,900 common shares, at an average price of $19.59 per share for total net proceeds of 14.2 million dollars.

Speaker #1: Notably, these proceeds combined with repayment of our $30 million Waters Creek preferred investment and higher NOI enabled us to maintain leverage at a consistent level even with the acquisition of Palm Crossing completed in this quarter.

Philip Mays: Notably, these proceeds, combined with repayment of our $30 million Waters Creek preferred investment and higher NOI, enabled us to maintain leverage at a consistent level, even with the acquisition of Palms Crossing completed in this quarter. Now turning to guidance. For the full year 2026, we are increasing our Core FFO outlook to a new range of $2.06 to $2.11 per diluted share, and our AFFO outlook to a new range of $2.19 to $2.24 per diluted share.

Speaker #1: Now, turning to guidance. For the full year 2026, we are increasing our core FFO outlook to a new range of $2.06 to $2.11 per diluted share and our AFFO outlook to a new range of $2.19 to $2.24 per diluted share.

Speaker #1: Key assumptions reflected in our guidance include increased investment volume, including structured investments of 175 million dollars to 250 million dollars, same property NOI growth for shopping centers, of 3.5% to 4.5%, and general and administrative expenses of 19.7 million dollars to 20.2 million dollars.

Philip Mays: Key assumptions reflected in our guidance include increased investment volume, including structured investments of $175 to 250 million, same-property NOI growth for shopping centers of 3.5% to 4.5%, general and administrative expenses of $19.7 to 20.2 million. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Speaker #1: And with that operator, please open the line for questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting our question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting our question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Jay Kornreich with Cantor Fitzgerald & Co. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Jay Kornreich with Cancerfish Gerald & Company.

Speaker #2: Your line is now open.

Speaker #3: Hey, thanks very much. Good morning. I guess I just wanted to start out with the new 75 million dollar Southwest preferred equity investment at the 12% yield.

Jay Kornreich: Hey, thanks very much. Good morning. I guess I just wanted to start out with the new $75 million Southwest preferred equity investment at the 12% yield. If, you know, what attracted you to that investment, and how do you anticipate, I guess, the draw schedule occurring? Sorry. How do you anticipate the draw schedule occurring going forward? In terms of funding sources for it, I guess you can use $30 million from the Waters investment, which was prepaid, how do you think about funding the incremental $45 million?

Speaker #3: Yes, you know, what attracted you to that investment and how do you anticipate, I guess, the draw schedule occurring? Sorry, how do you how do you anticipate the draw schedule occurring going forward?

Speaker #3: And in terms of funding sources for it, and I guess you can use $30 million from the Waters investment, which was prepaid, but how do you think about funding the incremental $45 million?

Speaker #4: Yeah, we've already did the investment, so it's like, oh, it was a one closing. And so as you mentioned, the Waters Creek was recycled into that.

John Albright: Yeah, we've already, you know, did the investment, so it's like, it was one closing. You know, as you mentioned, the Waters Creek was recycled into that. You know, we'll basically have, as we mentioned, an asset sale coming up, and so forth. We'll bring down leverage, but otherwise we just use the balance sheet for the balance of it.

Speaker #4: And we'll basically have as we mentioned, an asset sale coming up. And so forth, we'll bring down leverage, but otherwise we just use the balance sheet for the balance of it.

Jay Kornreich: Okay. You know, just going back to the, you know, original, ten vacant anchor spaces that we've talked about, I think there's still three remaining to be signed. Can you just give me an update on how those conversations are progressing and when you think you could get a lease signed and ultimately rent payment beginning?

Speaker #3: Okay, and then just going back to the original 10 vacant anchor spaces that we've talked about, I think there are still three remaining to be signed.

Speaker #3: Can you just give an update on how those conversations are progressing and when you think you could get a lease signed and ultimately rent payment beginning?

Speaker #4: Yeah, it's going really well as far as terms have been agreed upon, moving to leases. But these things with these large national companies go really slow.

John Albright: Yeah, it's going really well as far as, you know, terms have been agreed upon moving to leases. These things with these large national companies go really slow. So I would say, conservatively, I would say 3 months and hoping to do it before then. You know, every time you think these things would take, you know, 30 days, it drags. The good thing is, even though the lease may take that long, we're working right away on basically engineering drawings and what needs to be done to outfit the space for the tenants. We're not gonna wait for the lease to be signed to get that work done.

Speaker #4: So, I would say, conservatively, I would say three months, and hoping to do it before then. But every time you think these things would take 30 days, it drags.

Speaker #4: So but we are the good thing is, even though the lease may take that long, we are working right away on basically engineering drawings and what needs to be done to outfit the space for the tenants.

Speaker #4: So that's not going to we're not going to wait for the lease to be signed to get that work done. So the lease commencement will kind of stay kind of probably take call it nine months or so to kind of get the tenant in place.

John Albright: The lease commencement will kind of stay, you know, kind of probably take, you know, call it, you know, 9 months or so to kind of get the tenant in place. You know, that part won't move even though the lease may drag out.

Speaker #4: But that part won't move, even though the lease may drag out.

Speaker #3: Okay, I appreciate it. I'll hold it there. Thank you.

Jay Kornreich: Okay. Appreciate it. I'll hold it there. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Great. Thanks.

John Albright: Great. Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thank you so much. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Erdner with Jones Trading. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you so much. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Erdner with JonesTrading. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I'm just curious what's going to lead you kind of towards the high range of the investment guidance versus the bottom end.

Matthew Erdner: Hey, good morning, guys, thanks for taking the question. I'm just curious what's gonna lead you kind of towards the high range of the investment guidance versus the bottom end? You know, 'cause I think if you lean towards the bottom end, it'll probably be one more structured investment. You know, and given the timing of Madison Yards, should we expect anything to kind of happen, you know, in the H2 of the year from an investment perspective?

Speaker #5: Because I think if you lean towards the bottom end, it'll probably be one more structured investment. And given the timing of Madison Yards, should we expect anything to kind of happen in the second half of the year from an investment perspective?

John Albright: Phil, I'll let you kind of address that, but I'll start with some of the pipeline. We do have a structured investment that we are working on. It's relatively small, but that's something that could happen here in the next 30 days. As far as, you know, acquisition pipeline, we do have our eyes on a couple of things, but they're not gonna happen until they're not even out in the market yet. They're being prepared for market. We hope to be, you know, more active probably in next kind of 4 months. We'll, as mentioned in our prepared remarks, we'll have some recycling going on, which will kind of happen in the next, you know, probably 3 months.

Philip Mays: Phil, I'll let you kind of address that, but I'll start with some of the pipeline. We do have a structured investment that we are working on. It's relatively small, but that's something that could happen here in the next 30 days. As far as, you know, acquisition pipeline, we do have our eyes on a couple of things, but they're not gonna happen until they're not even out in the market yet. They're being prepared for market. We hope to be, you know, more active probably in next kind of 4 months. We'll, as mentioned in our prepared remarks, we'll have some recycling going on, which will kind of happen in the next, you know, probably 3 months.

Speaker #4: Until it lets you kind of address that. But I'll start with some of the pipeline. We do have a structured investment that we are working on.

Speaker #4: It's relatively small, but that's something that could happen here in the next 30 days. And as far as acquisition pipeline, we do have our eyes on a couple of things, but they're not going to happen until they're not even out in the market yet.

Speaker #4: They're being prepared for market. So we hope to be more active probably in the next kind of four months. And then we'll, as mentioned, our prepared remarks, we'll have some recycling going on, which will kind of happen in the next probably three months.

Speaker #5: Yeah, Matt, it's Phil. And you're correct in your assumption. So the small structured investment, John referred to, would put us right around the low end of the range.

Philip Mays: Yeah, Matt, it's Phil. You, you're correct in your assumption. The small structured investment John referred to would put us right around the low end of the range. If we complete some of the larger property acquisitions in the pipeline, it would push us up towards the higher end of the range.

Speaker #5: And then if we complete some of the larger property acquisitions, in the pipeline, it would push us up towards the higher end of the range.

Speaker #5: Got it. And then kind of as a follow-up to that, are you guys assuming that Outparcel at Forsyth, those 10 extra acres there, in the investment guidance for this year, or would that be an additional?

Matthew Erdner: Got it. You know, kind of as a follow-up to that, you know, are you guys assuming that, you know, out parcel at Forsyth, those 10 extra acres there in the investment guidance for this year, or would that be additional?

Speaker #5: Yeah, so they won't contribute to earnings in this year. It's one of the pads that we've identified. So part of the where we've discussed $30 million of capital earning low double-digit yield unlevered.

Philip Mays: Yeah. They won't contribute to earnings in this year. It's one of the pads that we've identified. Where we've discussed, you know, $30 million of capital earning low double-digit yield unlevered, it's in that group. Any earnings from that will not be in this year, Matt.

Speaker #5: It's in that group. But any earnings from that will not be in this year, Matt. Okay, got it. That's helpful. Thank you, guys.

Matthew Erdner: Okay. Got it. That's helpful. Thank you, guys.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

John Albright: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you so much. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Kuchera with Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you so much. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Kucera with Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker #3: Thank you. With the preferred equity investment you made here in second quarter, I think, and it sounds like you've got another potential small one I think that's you're bringing CTO's exposure to structured investments to around 11%, maybe closer to 15% when fully funded relative to underappreciated assets.

Craig Kucera: Thank you. With the preferred equity investment you made here in Q2, it sounds like you've got another potential small one. I think that you're bringing CTO's exposure to structured investments to around, you know, 11%, maybe closer to 15% when fully funded relative to undepreciated assets. Are you thinking about a cap or target on that as a percentage of the balance sheet similar to Pine?

Speaker #3: Are you thinking about a cap or target on that as a percentage of the balance sheet, similar to Pine?

Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks for the question. So I would say that most likely the cap will be it'll definitely be below 20% and maybe more in line with the 15%.

John Albright: Yeah. Thanks for the question. I would say that, you know, most likely, it'll definitely be below 20% and maybe more in line with the 15%. You know, as you've seen at Pine, you know, sometimes it'll go a little higher as we anticipate some payoffs happening. But roughly 15% feels like a good place for us.

Speaker #4: And so, as you've seen at Pine, sometimes it'll go a little higher as we anticipate some payoffs happening. But roughly 15% feels like a good place for us.

Speaker #3: Okay, great. And thinking about investment guidance, you've done 156 million year to date. I think you started out the year guiding to sort of 8.5%.

Craig Kucera: Okay, great. Thinking about investment guidance, you know, you've done $156 million year to date. I think you started out the year guiding to sort of 8% to 8.5%. The preferred equity done here this quarter is 12%. Has, you know, has that sort of yield range changed at all because of that?

Speaker #3: The preferred equity done here this quarter is 12. Has that sort of yield range changed at all because of that?

Speaker #4: Yeah, so the cap rates, I can kind of go into kind of where we're seeing on cap rates and then as we see more visibility on what we'll be buying and kind of the structured finance kind of give you a better mix outcome.

John Albright: Yeah. The, you know, the cap rates, I can kind of go into kind of what we're seeing on cap rates. As we see more visibility on what we'll be buying and kind of the structured finance kind of give you a better mix outcome. In general, the acquisitions that we're seeing are kind of in the 7.5% to 8% range. With regards to structured finance, you know, something in the kind of 10% to 13% range. Yeah, you kind of have that little blend.

Speaker #4: But in general, the acquisitions that we're seeing are kind of in the 7.5% to 8% range. And then, with regards to structured finance, something in the kind of the 10% to 13% range.

Speaker #4: And so you kind of have that little blend.

Speaker #5: Okay, great. That's very helpful. Just a couple more for me. Looking at your space, that's expiring this year, it looks like it's significantly above the average in the portfolio, particularly on the anchor space or mostly on the anchor space.

Craig Kucera: Okay, great. That's very helpful. Just a couple more from me. You know, looking at your space that's expiring this year, it looks like it's significantly above the average in the portfolio, particularly on the anchor space, or mostly on the anchor space. You had, I think, a 24% cash increase in rent spreads last year. I think you had 14% this quarter. Are you thinking something in the double-digit range is possible this year, or is that gonna be a little tougher?

Speaker #5: You had, I think, a 24% cash increase in rent spreads last year. I think you had 14 this quarter. Are you thinking something in the double-digit range is possible this year, or is that going to be a little tougher?

Speaker #5: Yeah, I mean, I think the spreads you would see them kind of continue in the range they've been, Craig. I mean, are you referring to 26 when you say this year, right?

Philip Mays: Yeah, I mean, I think the spreads, you would see them kind of continue in the range they've been, Craig. I mean, are you referring to 2026 when you say this year, right?

Craig Kucera: Yeah, in 2026.

Philip Mays: Yeah, yeah. The expiring rents are a little higher, right? I think they're closer to 2025, where we've been signing a lot of leases. You know, we're not only working on 2026, we're also working on 2027. You know, you start early. I think, you know, while the spreads could come down a little just because the average rent, and the leases expiring in 2026 could bring it down a little. Generally still should be close to where we've historically been recently. Obviously, any 1 quarter can bounce around a lot just because it's, you know, not a lot of GLA in 1 quarter, but for the full year should be pretty good.

Speaker #5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the expiring rents are a little higher, right? I think they're closer to 25 where we've been signing a lot of leases.

Speaker #5: But we're not only working on 26. We're also working on 27. You start early. So I think while the spreads could come down a little just because the average rent and the leases expiring in 26 could bring it down a little, but generally, it still should be close to where we've historically been recently.

Speaker #5: Obviously, any one quarter can bounce around a lot just because it's not a lot of GLA. In one quarter. But for the full year, it should be pretty good.

Speaker #3: Okay, that's helpful. Just one more for me.

Craig Kucera: Okay, that's helpful. Just one more from me.

Philip Mays: Just because there's fewer anchors in there, Craig, so that's, you know, what's left is small shop.

Speaker #5: What's driving that? There's fewer anchors in there, Craig. So that's what's left is small shop. So a little higher ABR.

Philip Mays: Just because there's fewer anchors in there, Craig, so that's, you know, what's left is small shop.

Craig Kucera: Right

Philip Mays: You know, a little higher ABR.

Speaker #3: Got it. And just one more for me. I think last quarter, the implied ABR recognition in the sign not open pipeline was about 2.9 million for 2026.

Craig Kucera: Got it. Just one more from me. You know, I think last quarter, the implied ABR recognition in the signed not open pipeline was about $2.9 million for 2026. I think now we're looking at $1.8 million in the updated deck. Can you give us a sense of how you're anticipating the timing of that $1.8 million in 2026 and sort of how we should think about modeling 2027 from a sign not open pipeline recognition perspective?

Speaker #3: I think now we're looking at 1.8, and the updated deck. Can you give us a sense of how you're anticipating the timing of that 1.8 million in '26 and sort of how we should think about modeling '27 from a sign not open pipeline recognition perspective?

Speaker #5: Yeah, so about a million and a half rolled off the pipeline from last time, and got commenced. And then with new leases, we kind of filled that back up signing about a million and a half.

Philip Mays: Yeah. About $1.5 million rolled off the pipeline from last time and got and commenced. With new leases, you know, we kind of filled that back up, signing about $1.5 million. The total of the signed not open pipeline did not move much. What did go in, went in relatively closer to the beginning of the quarter. It was in there for most of the quarter, and it reflected in the quarter's run rate. With what's left in the signed not open pipeline, I think it'll be a little more Q3, Q4 weighted. Generally, almost all of it is in place, albeit maybe later in the year, prior to 2027. You should get, you know, pretty much the full impact of the signed not open pipeline in 2027.

Speaker #5: So the total of the sign not open pipeline did not move much. What did go in went in relatively closer to the beginning of the quarter.

Speaker #5: So it was in there for most of the quarter, and it reflected in the quarter's run rate. With what's left in the sign-not-open pipeline, I think it'll be a little more Q3, Q4 weighted.

Speaker #5: And then generally, almost all of it is in place, albeit maybe later in the year, prior to '27. So you should get pretty much the full impact of the sign not open pipeline in '27.

Speaker #5: I think there's one tenant that pushes to early '28, but almost everything should be recognized in '27.

Philip Mays: I think there's one tenant that pushes to early 2028, but almost everything should be recognized in 2027.

Speaker #3: I'm sorry. Are you saying recognized as of sort of the early '27 or throughout '27?

Craig Kucera: I'm sorry, are you saying recognized as of sort of the early 2027 or throughout 2027?

Speaker #5: Early '27. So it should just other than one tenant, I think they're all you should get the full benefit of the sign not open pipeline for '27.

Philip Mays: Early 2027.

Craig Kucera: Okay.

Philip Mays: Other than one tenant, I think they're all, you should get the full benefit of the signed not open pipeline for 2027. There's one tenant you won't get the full benefit of until 2028 because they'll open during 2027. What's left for 2026 will be later in the year, and then you'll get the full benefit in 2027.

Speaker #5: There's one tenant you won't get the full benefit of until '28 because they'll open during '27. But what's left for '26 will be later in the year, and then you'll get the full benefit in '27.

Speaker #3: All right, that's helpful. Thank you.

Craig Kucera: All right. That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you so much. Our next question comes from the line of John Masoka. Was B. Reilly Securities, your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you so much. Our next question comes from the line of John Massocca with B. Riley Securities.

Speaker #6: Good morning. I've been thinking about the Madison disposition. I know we can kind of back into the numbers a little bit on our own, given your disclosure, but is it right to think that that's at about a 6% cap rate?

John Massocca: Good morning. I've been thinking about the Madison disposition. I know we can kind of back into the numbers a little bit on our own, given your disclosure, but is it right to think that that's at about a 6% cap rate? I know it kind of depends a little bit on the NOI margin at that specific asset, but does that sound roughly correct?

Speaker #6: I know it kind of depends a little bit on the NOI margin at that specific asset, but is that down roughly correct?

Speaker #4: It's a little higher than that because of the AMC Theater.

John Albright: It's a little higher than that because of the AMC Theatres.

Speaker #6: Okay. All right. And then maybe to kind of more big picture, as you're thinking about your leasing pipeline and some of the vacancy that's left - and I know a lot of that's been addressed because a lot of it's in Carolina Pavilion - but is there any kind of hesitancy you've seen in retailers and, frankly, in recent weeks around signing deals just given some of the macro uncertainty out there, some of the uncertainty about how some of the headline stuff maybe impacts the consumer?

John Massocca: Okay. All right. Then maybe to kind of more big picture, as you're thinking about your leasing pipeline and some of the vacancy that's left, and I know a lot of that's been addressed because a lot of it's in Carolina Pavilion. Is there any kind of hesitancy you've seen in retailers and frankly, in recent weeks around signing deals, just given some of the macro uncertainty out there, some of the uncertainty about how some of the headline stuff maybe impacts the consumer? Just curious how the kind of leasing trajectory has been on a super recent basis.

Speaker #6: Just curious how the kind of leasing trajectory has been on a super recent basis.

John Albright: There's been no hesitancy with pushing forward on leases. We have not seen any pullback whatsoever on any category.

Speaker #4: There has been no hesitancy with pushing forward on leases. We have not seen any pullback whatsoever. On any category.

John Albright: There's been no hesitancy with pushing forward on leases. We have not seen any pullback whatsoever on any category.

Speaker #6: Okay. And then with the in-place portfolio, any new tenants or any new kind of notable increase to the watchlist? Just curious if there's any kind of pushes and pulls there.

John Massocca: Okay. Then with the in-place portfolio, any new tenants or any new kind of notable increase to the watch list? Just curious if there is any kind of pushes and pulls there. Anything coming out of the watch list even too?

Speaker #6: Anything coming out of the watchlist even too?

John Albright: No. I mean, really, as I've said in, you know, prior calls, you know, really, you know, it's really some of the smaller type tenants and maybe restaurant-oriented. There's been no notable change, one way or the other on the watch list.

Speaker #4: No. I mean, really, as I've said in prior calls, really, it's really some of the smaller-type tenants and maybe restaurant-oriented but there's been no notable change one way or the other on the watchlist.

Speaker #6: Okay. And then last one, there's been a decent amount of M&A in the space and kind of recent years, including a notable comp to you all recently.

John Massocca: Okay. Last one. You know, there's been a decent amount of M&A in the space in kind of recent years, including a notable Cox you all recently. How does that impact kind of your disposition and acquisition outlook? Is there stuff that maybe comes out of those transactions or that, you know, a competitor maybe not being in the space that increases the likelihood of you closing certain deals? Does it indicate something you can do on the capital recycling side that is interesting? Just kind of curious if those events outside of your control kind of change the dynamics around how you're operating the business.

Speaker #6: How does that impact kind of your disposition and acquisition outlook? Is there stuff that maybe comes out of those transactions or a competitor maybe not being in the space that increases the likelihood of you closing certain deals?

Speaker #6: Does it indicate something you can do on the capital recycling side that is interesting? Just kind of curious if those events outside of your control kind of change the dynamics around how you're operating the business.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I would just say that there's just a lot more capital out there, and that price point of that transaction was fairly aggressive. So it's helpful on our recycling side, for sure.

John Albright: Yeah. I would just say that there's just a lot more capital out there and that that price point of that transaction was, you know, fairly aggressive. It, it's helpful on our recycling side for sure, but not helpful on our acquisition side. You know, we pride ourselves on being, you know, fast to kind of address an acquisition. We can move fast. The groups that are out there on the acquisition hunt are much larger, kind of institutional, and they take a lot longer. Just being a little bit nimble is an advantage for us.

Speaker #4: But not helpful on our acquisition side. So we proud ourselves on being fast to kind of address an acquisition. We can move fast and the groups that are out there on the acquisition hunt are much larger kind of institutional, and they take a lot longer.

Speaker #4: So just being a little bit nimble is an advantage for us.

Speaker #6: Okay. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

John Massocca: Okay. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: Great. Thanks. Appreciate it.

John Albright: Great. Thanks. Appreciate it.

Speaker #1: Thank you so much. Our next question comes from a line of Gurav Mehta. Was Alliance Global Partners, your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you so much. Our next question comes from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask you on the acquisition that you made, Sam's Crossing, this quarter, on the value add upside, can you maybe talk about where the rents are on that property versus where the market trends are?

Gaurav Mehta: Yeah, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask you on the acquisition that you made, Palms Crossing this quarter. On the value add upside, can you maybe talk about where the rents are on that property versus where the market rents are?

Speaker #4: Yeah. I mean, the market rents are below market, but there's not really any sort of play where we're going to get a tenant out and we're going to have a huge mark-to-market on the lease-up.

John Albright: Yeah. I mean, the market rents are below market, you know, there's not really any sort of play where we're gonna get a tenant out and we're gonna have a huge mark-to-market on the lease-up.

Gaurav Mehta: Okay.

John Albright: I would just say that, you know, we do have a little bit of vacancy, and we have an out parcel that we didn't pay any money for that we're working on. That's where the growth is gonna come over and beyond what we bought. You know, they are below market, but, you know, not something that you can kind of get to anytime soon.

Speaker #4: I would just say that we do have a little bit of vacancy, and we have an out-parcel that we didn't pay any money for that we're working on.

Speaker #4: So that's where the growth is going to come, over and beyond what we bought. But they are below market, but not something that you can kind of get to anytime soon.

Speaker #2: Okay. Second question on the guidance, just a clarification. On the Madison Yards, I didn't see that listed in the guidance assumption. Is that included in your guidance, the disposition?

Gaurav Mehta: Okay. Second question on the guidance, just a clarification. On the Madison Yards, I didn't see that listed in the guidance assumption. Is that included in your guidance, the disposition?

Speaker #5: No. I mean, we didn't put a disposition volume out there. Currently, that's the only near-term and planned disposition, though.

Philip Mays: No, I mean, we didn't put a disposition, volume out there. Currently that's the only near-term planned disposition, though.

Speaker #2: Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all I had.

Gaurav Mehta: Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all I had.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

John Albright: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you so much. So I'm showing no further questions at this time. This concludes the questionnaire answer session. Thank you for your participation in today's conference.

Operator: Thank you so much. I am showing no further questions at this time. This concludes the question and answer session. Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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