Q1 2026 Brown & Brown Inc Earnings Call

April 28, 2026

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Speaker #1: 139 cents. For the first quarter, we're going to write a good cash flow operations of over $260 million. Overall, we're pleased with the solid top and bottom line results for the quarter.

Speaker #1: A reconsideration of non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the companies' earnings press release or in the investor presentation for this call on the company's website, ATBBrown.com/, by clicking on Investor Relations and then Calendar of Events.

Speaker #1: Five. From an economics standpoint, conditions are stable. We're hiring an investment activity consistent with our period, which continue to drive demand. We're creating insurance and risk management solutions.

Speaker #1: Customers remain focused on balancing costs and prioritizing value and risk management. At the end of the quarter, the geopolitical issues and specifically the cost of oil and gas did influence some of our customers.

Speaker #1: With that said, I would now like to turn the call over to Powell Brown, President and Chief Executive Officer. You may begin.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Tawanda. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. Overall, we delivered good financial results for Q1, reflecting the continued dedication of our nearly 23,000 teammates.

Speaker #1: As a result, they began to take a slightly more cautious outlook on balancing the implications of absorbing cost increases versus passing them on to their customers.

Speaker #2: We provide best-in-class solutions to our diversified customer base. These results are a continuation of the industry-leading top and bottom-line performance we delivered in 2025.

Speaker #1: From a commercial insurance standpoint, the changes in rates remain relatively consistent with prior quarters, except for cap property, which declined further than in the fourth quarter of last year.

Speaker #2: I'll provide some high-level comments regarding our performance, along with updates on our customers, the insurance markets, and the M&A landscape. Then, Andy, I'll discuss our financial performance in more detail.

Speaker #1: Pricing for employee benefits was fairly similar to prior quarters, with medical costs up 8 to 10 percent and pharmacy costs up over 10 percent.

Speaker #1: We continue to consult and advise our customers on multiple strategies that can be employed to manage high-cost claimants and pharmacy spend. We leverage our extensive consultative solutions to deliver high-impact strategy for population health, captives, stop loss, and carve-outs for certain services.

Speaker #2: This quarter, we also wanted to take some time to provide an update on our technology and data journeys with a focus on how we're leveraging these capabilities in combination with artificial intelligence to provide even more value to our customers, teammates, and carrier partners.

Speaker #2: Lastly, I'll wrap up with some closing and forward-looking thoughts before we open up to Q&A. I'm on slide number four. For the first quarter, we delivered revenues of $1.9 billion, growing 35.4% in total.

Speaker #1: Shifting the rate environment, the admitted P&C markets continue to be in the range of flat up 5 percent versus prior year. But did moderate slightly as compared to last quarter.

Speaker #2: Beginning this quarter, we're also presenting our organic growth with contingent commissions as another comparable measure to other publicly traded brokers. Andy, you'll get into more detail how this metric gives a good correlation to our margins and cash flow generation.

Speaker #1: Workers' comp rates remained flat to down 3, while we saw a few states increase rates modestly. For non-cap property overall, rates remained down 5 to up 5, depending on the loss experience and the location.

Speaker #2: For the first quarter, organic revenue growth was flat, with the prior year and with contingents increased 2.2%. Both growth metrics were impacted by prior year flood claims processing revenue and continued pressure on cap property rates.

Speaker #1: For casualty lines, rates increased 2 to 5 percent. For primary layers, with excess layers increasing materially more. For professional liability, rates remain similar to last couple of quarters, and we're down 5 to up 5.

Speaker #2: The flood claims revenue represented a negative impact on our organic growth metrics of nearly 100 basis points. We had another great quarter for profitable growth.

Speaker #1: Shifting to the E&S market, let's split the conversation between property and casualty. For property, both wind and quake, rates declined were modestly more than we experienced in Q4 of last year.

Speaker #2: Our EBITDA adjusted EBITDA margin increased 40 basis points to 38.5%, and our adjusted earnings per share grew nearly 8% to $1.39. For the first quarter, we generated good cash flow from operations of over $260 million.

Speaker #1: Most of our placements for the quarter were down 15 to 35 percent. At the end of the quarter, we saw placements above and below this range.

Speaker #1: Generally, customers are capturing most of the savings. However, some are utilizing the savings to decrease deductibles, increase limits, or buy other lines of coverage.

Speaker #2: Overall, we're pleased with the solid top and bottom-line results for the quarter. I'm on slide five. From an economic standpoint, conditions during the quarter were stable.

Speaker #1: These tactics are common when rates are moderating or declining. On the casualty front, not much has changed versus prior quarters. The ability to get higher limits is extremely challenging, pricing continues to increase, primary layers are becoming more expensive, and carriers are decreasing the limits they'll offer.

Speaker #2: Customer hiring and investment activity levels were generally consistent, with prior periods in which continued to drive demand for creative insurance and risk management solutions.

Speaker #2: Customers remained focused on balancing cost and coverage decisions while prioritizing value and risk management. At the end of the quarter, the geopolitical issues and specifically the cost of oil and gas did influence some of our customers.

Speaker #1: We do not expect this trend to change materially over the coming quarters. I'm on slide six. Let's transition to the performance of our two segments for the quarter.

Speaker #2: As a result, they began to make slightly more cautious take a slightly more cautious outlook, and our balancing implications of absorbing cost increases versus passing them on to their customers.

Speaker #1: Retail delivered organic growth, including contingents of 1.3 percent and organic growth excluding contingents of 1 percent. This was due to the combination of rate the change in a revenue model of one of our pharmacy consulting businesses and lower net new business in the quarter.

Speaker #2: From a commercial insurance standpoint, the changes in rates remained relatively consistent with prior quarters, except for cap property, which declined further than in the fourth quarter of last year.

J. Powell Brown: $0.39. For Q1, we generated good cash flow from operations of over $260 million. Overall, we're pleased with the solid top and bottom line results for the quarter. I'm on slide 5. From an economic standpoint, conditions in the quarter were stable. Hiring and investment activity were generally consistent as carrier premium gains, which continue to drive demand for creative insurance and risk management solutions. Customers remain focused on balancing cost and coverage decisions while prioritizing value and risk management. At the end of the quarter, the geopolitical issues and specifically the cost of oil and gas did influence some of our customers. As a result, they began to take a slightly more cautious outlook on balancing the implications of absorbing cost increases versus passing them on to their customers.

Speaker #1: The revenue model of this business, in terms of consulting business, is changing and is expected to negatively impact organic growth by 50 to 100 basis points over the next couple of quarters.

Speaker #2: Pricing for employee benefits was fairly similar to prior quarters, with medical costs up 8 to 10% and pharmacy costs up over 10%. We continue to consult and advise our customers on multiple strategies that can be employed to manage high-cost claimants and pharmacy spend.

Speaker #1: Then we expect this business to start growing towards the end of the year. In connection with our integration efforts to bring both companies together and position us to leverage our combined capabilities, we've been very deliberate regarding augmentation of our operating model.

Speaker #2: We leverage our extensive consultative solutions to deliver high-impact strategy for population health, captives, stop loss, and carve-outs for certain services. Shifting the rate environment, the admitted P&C markets continue to be in the range of flat up 5% versus prior year.

Speaker #1: Legacy risk strategies was more of a regional sales model, while legacy Brown & Brown, middle market was more of a local sales model. Steve Hearn and his leadership team have taken the best of both to create a new sales model that's underpinning with industry and line and coverage specialization.

J. Powell Brown: As a result, they began to take a slightly more cautious outlook on balancing the implications of absorbing cost increases versus passing them on to their customers. From a commercial insurance standpoint, the changes in rates remain relatively consistent with prior quarters, except for catastrophe property, which declined further than in Q4 of last year. Pricing for employee benefits was fairly similar to prior quarters, with medical costs up 8% to 10% and pharmacy costs up over 10%. We continue to consult and advise our customers on multiple strategies that can be employed to manage high-cost claimants and pharmacy spend.

Speaker #2: But did moderate slightly as compared to last quarter. Workers' comp rates remained flat to down 3, while we saw a few states increase rates modestly.

Speaker #1: We believe these enhancements will drive higher net new business as leaders establish their operating rhythm. While it's still a bit early, we're already seeing increased activity.

J. Powell Brown: From a commercial insurance standpoint, the changes in rates remain relatively consistent with prior quarters, except for catastrophe property, which declined further than in Q4 of last year. Pricing for employee benefits was fairly similar to prior quarters, with medical costs up 8% to 10% and pharmacy costs up over 10%. We continue to consult and advise our customers on multiple strategies that can be employed to manage high-cost claimants and pharmacy spend. We leverage our extensive consultative solutions to deliver high-impact strategy for population health, captives, stop-loss, and carve outs for certain services. Shifting to the rate environment, the admitted P&C markets continue to be in the range of flat up 5% versus prior year, but did moderate slightly as compared to last quarter.

Speaker #2: For non-cap property overall, rates remained down 5 to up 5, depending on the loss experience and the location. For casualty lines, rates increased 2 to 5%.

Speaker #1: It gives us optimism about the second half of the year and heading into 2027. Based on the rate environment, the changes in one of our pharmacy consulting businesses and the operating model enhancements, we're projecting modest organic growth improvement each quarter this year as compared to the first quarter.

Speaker #2: For primary layers, excess layers increasing materially more. For professional liability, rates remained similar to last couple of quarters and were down 5 to up 5.

Speaker #2: Shifting to the E&S market, let's split the conversation between property and casualty. For property, both wind and quake, rates declined rate declines were modestly more than we experienced in Q4 of last year.

J. Powell Brown: We leverage our extensive consultative solutions to deliver high-impact strategy for population health, captives, stop-loss, and carve outs for certain services. Shifting to the rate environment, the admitted P&C markets continue to be in the range of flat up 5% versus prior year, but did moderate slightly as compared to last quarter. Workers' comp rates remained flat to down three, while we saw a few states increase rates modestly. For non-capped property overall, rates remain down 5 to up 5, depending on the loss experience and the location. For casualty lines, rates increased 2 to 5% for primary layers, with excess layers increasing materially more. For professional liability, rates remained similar to the last couple quarters and were down 5 to up 5. Shifting to the E&S market, let's split the conversation between property and casualty. For property, both wind and quake rates declined. Rate declines were modestly more than we experienced in Q4 of last year. Most of our placements for the quarter were down 15 to 35%. At the end of the quarter, we saw placements above and below this range. Generally, customers are capturing most of the savings.

Speaker #1: Now let's talk about specialty distribution. For the quarter, organic revenue, including contingents, increased by 3.9 percent and decreased by 2 percent when excluding contingents.

Speaker #2: Most of our placements for the quarter were down 15 to 35 percent. At the end of the quarter, we saw placements above and below this range.

Speaker #1: These organic revenue metrics were negatively impacted by nearly 300 basis points, driven by the $12 million of flood claims processing revenue we recognized in the first quarter of last year.

Speaker #2: Generally, customers are capturing most of the savings. However, some are utilizing the savings to decrease deductibles, increase limits, or buy other lines of coverage.

J. Powell Brown: Workers' comp rates remained flat to down 3, while we saw a few states increase rates modestly. For non-capped property overall, rates remain down 5 to up 5, depending on the loss experience and the location. For casualty lines, rates increased 2 to 5% for primary layers, with excess layers increasing materially more. For professional liability, rates remained similar to the last couple quarters and were down 5 to up 5. Shifting to the E&S market, let's split the conversation between property and casualty. For property, both wind and quake rates declined. Rate declines were modestly more than we experienced in Q4 of last year. Most of our placements for the quarter were down 15 to 35%. At the end of the quarter, we saw placements above and below this range. Generally, customers are capturing most of the savings.

Speaker #1: We believe the results for the first quarter were strong, considering cap property rates were down 15 to 35 percent and even more later in the quarter.

Speaker #2: These tactics are common when rates are moderating or declining. On the casualty front, not much has changed versus prior quarters. The ability to get higher limits is extremely challenging, pricing continued to increase, primary layers are becoming more expensive, and carriers are decreasing the limits they'll offer.

Speaker #1: We have a highly diversified and specialized business, and when we look at the underlying volumes for policies in force, exclusive of any rate impact, most of our businesses had good growth.

Speaker #1: From a contingent standpoint, it was another great quarter. As we look forward, we anticipate relatively flat organic growth, excluding contingents in Q2, due to heavy weighting of cap property placements.

Speaker #2: We do not expect this trend to change materially over the coming quarters. I'm on slide six. Let's transition to the performance of our two segments for the quarter.

Speaker #2: Retail delivered organic growth, including contingents of 1.3% and organic growth excluding contingents of 1%. This was due to the combination of rate the change in our revenue model of one of our pharmacy consulting businesses and lower net new business in the quarter.

Speaker #1: In the second half of the year, we're expecting improving growth as we place less cap property, and the 180 business from recession helped drive organic growth.

Speaker #1: Remember, 180 as a comparatively small amount of property and heavier weighting of casualty as compared to the legacy Brown & Brown specialty distribution business.

Speaker #2: The revenue model of this business in terms of the consulting business is changing and is expected to negatively impact organic growth by 50 to 100 basis points over the next couple of quarters.

J. Powell Brown: However, some are utilizing the savings to decrease deductibles, increase limits, or buy other lines of coverage. These tactics are common when rates are moderating or declining. On the casualty front, not much has changed versus prior quarters. The ability to get higher limits is extremely challenging. Pricing continues to increase, primary layers are becoming more expensive, and carriers are decreasing the limits they'll offer. We do not expect this trend to change materially over the coming quarters. I'm on slide 6. Let's transition to the performance of our two segments for the quarter. Retail delivered organic growth, including contingents of 1.3% and organic growth excluding contingents of 1%. This was due to the combination of rate, the change in a revenue model of one of our pharmacy consulting businesses, and lower net new business in the quarter.

Speaker #1: Now I'll turn it over to Andy. He's going to detail our financial results.

Speaker #2: John, good morning, everybody. Before we get into the financial details, I want to talk about a few items. The first is reporting organic growth contingents as another measure of our performance and a reference point to other public brokers.

Speaker #2: Then we expect this business to start growing towards the end of the year. In connection with our integration efforts to bring both companies together and position us to leverage our combined capabilities, we've been very deliberate regarding augmentation of our operating model.

Speaker #2: As we discussed in the past, our ability to generate contingent commissions is a core part of our business model. And can fluctuate quarterly. Contingent commissions are a higher percentage of total revenues in the specialty distribution segment as compared to retail.

Speaker #2: Due to the fact that we substantially control underwriting discipline. While organic growth has been pressured in certain parts of our business, primarily due to cap property pricing, we have realized a substantial increase in contingents due to underwriting profitability.

Speaker #2: Legacy risk strategies was more of a regional sales model, while legacy Brown & Brown, middle market was more of a local sales model. Steve Hearn and his leadership team have taken the best of both to create a new sales model that's underpinning with industry and line and coverage specialization.

Speaker #2: Generally, when E&S rates are decreasing, our contingents will increase. This inverse correlation creates more stability in our revenues, margins, and cash flow. Transitioning now to our consolidated results.

Speaker #2: We believe these enhancements will drive higher net new business as leaders establish their operating rhythm. While it's still a bit early, we're already seeing increased activity gives us optimism about the second half of the year and heading into 2027.

J. Powell Brown: The revenue model of this business in terms of the consulting business is changing and is expected to negatively impact organic growth by 50 to 100 basis points over the next couple of quarters. We expect this business to start growing towards the end of the year. In connection with our integration efforts to bring both companies together and position us to leverage our combined capabilities, we've been very deliberate regarding augmentation of our operating model. Legacy Risk Strategies was more of a regional sales model, while Legacy Brown & Brown middle market was more of a local sales model. Steve Hearn and his leadership team have taken the best of both to create a new sales model that's underpinning with industry and line and coverage specialization. We believe these enhancements will drive higher net new business as leaders establish their operating rhythm.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, when we refer to EBITDAC, EBITDAC margin, income before income taxes, or diluted net income per share, we're referring to those measures on an adjusted basis.

Speaker #2: Based on the rate environment, the changes in one of our pharmacy consulting businesses and the operating model enhancements, we're projecting modest organic growth improvement each quarter this year as compared to the first quarter.

Speaker #2: The reconciliations of our GAAP-to-non-GAAP financial measures can be found either in the appendix of this presentation or in the press release we issued yesterday.

Speaker #2: Now let's talk about specialty distribution. For the quarter, organic revenue, including contingents, increased by 3.9% and decreased by 2% when excluding contingents. These organic revenue metrics were negatively impacted by nearly 300 basis points driven by the $12 million of flood claims processing revenue we recognized in the first quarter of last year.

Speaker #2: Now, let's get into more detail regarding our financial performance. For the quarter, we're over on page seven. On a consolidated basis, we delivered total revenues of $1,900,000,000, growing 35.4 percent as compared to the first quarter of 2025.

Speaker #2: Contingent commissions grew by an impressive 54 million dollars, with 22 million coming from a session. The underlying organic increase was driven by minimal storm claim activity and higher underwriting profitability.

Speaker #2: We believe the results for the first quarter were strong considering cap property rates were down 15 to 35 percent and even more later in the quarter.

J. Powell Brown: While it's still a bit early, we're already seeing increased activity that gives us optimism about the H2 of the year and heading into 2027. Based on the rate environment, the changes in one of our pharmacy consulting businesses, and the operating model enhancements, we're projecting modest organic growth improvement each quarter this year as compared to the Q1. Let's talk about Specialty Distribution. For the quarter, organic revenue, including contingents, increased by 3.9% and decreased by 2% when excluding contingents. These organic revenue metrics were negatively impacted by nearly 300 basis points, driven by the $12 million of flood claims processing revenue we recognized in the Q1 of last year.

Speaker #2: Primarily within our specialty distribution segment. Income before income taxes increased by 28.7 percent and EBITDAC grew by 36.6 percent. Our EBITDAC margin was 38.5 percent, a 40 basis point increase over the first quarter of the prior year.

Speaker #2: We have a highly diversified and specialized business, and when we look at the underlying volumes for policies enforced, exclusive of any rate impact, most of our businesses had good growth.

Speaker #2: From a contingent standpoint, it was another great quarter. As we look forward, we anticipate relatively flat organic growth excluding contingents in Q2 due to heavy weighting of cap property placements.

Speaker #2: This was a strong result considering the impact from a session, which we'll talk about in a few minutes. And the prior year flood claims processing revenue.

Speaker #2: The underlying margin expansion was driven by significantly higher contingent commissions along with our continued discipline management expenses. Regarding the session, we recognized total revenues of approximately $445,000,000 for the quarter.

Speaker #2: In the second half of the year, we're expecting improving growth as we place less cap property in the 180 businesses from a session helped drive our organic growth.

Speaker #2: Remember, 180 has a comparatively smaller amount of property and heavier weighting of casualty as compared to the legacy Brown & Brown specialty distribution business.

Speaker #2: Due to legacy Brown & Brown's high margins in the first quarter associated with our employee benefits businesses, and the expected quarterly phasing of revenue and profit for a session, our adjusted EBITDAC margins were negatively impacted by approximately $200 basis points for the quarter.

J. Powell Brown: We believe the results for Q1 were strong, considering cat property rates were down 15% to 35% and even more later in the quarter. We have a highly diversified and specialized business, and when we look at the underlying volumes for policies in force, exclusive of any rate impact, most of our businesses had good growth. From a contingent standpoint, it was another great quarter.

Speaker #2: Now I'll turn it over to Andy to get in more details of our financial results. Thank you, Pal. Good morning, everybody. Before we get into the financial details, we want to talk about a few items.

Speaker #2: The first is reporting organic growth with contingents as another measure of our performance and a reference point to other public brokers. As we've discussed in the past, our ability to generate contingent commissions is a core part of our business model, and can fluctuate quarterly.

Speaker #2: For the full year, we still expect the overall adjusted EBITDAC margins for the session business will be around 35 percent. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 22.8 percent, a slight increase over the prior year of 21.8 percent.

Speaker #2: Contingent commissions are a higher percentage of total revenues in the specialty distribution segment as compared to retail. Due to the fact that we substantially control underwriting discipline.

J. Powell Brown: As we look forward, we anticipate relatively flat organic growth excluding contingents in Q2 due to heavy weighting of cat property placements. In H2, we're expecting improving growth as we place less cat property and the One80 business from Accession help drive organic growth. Remember, One80 has a comparatively small amount of property and heavier weighting of casualty as compared to the legacy Brown & Brown Specialty Distribution business. Now I'll turn it over to Andy to give more details of our financial results.

Speaker #2: The incremental rate was driven by an increase in certain state taxes. Diluted net income per share increased 7.8 percent to $1.39. Our weighted average shares increased by approximately 52 million to $337,000,000, primarily due to shares issued in connection with the acquisition of a session.

Speaker #2: While organic growth has been pressured in certain parts of our business, primarily due to cap property pricing, we have realized a substantial increase in contingents due to underwriting profitability.

Speaker #2: During the last six months, we reduced our share count by approximately $5,000,000 or 1.4 percent through $350,000,000 of stock repurchases. Lastly, our dividends paid per share increased by 10 percent as compared to the first quarter of 2025.

Andy: Thanks, Powell. Good morning, everybody. Before we get into the financial details, I want to talk about a few items. The first is reporting organic growth with contingents as another measure of performance in reference to other public brokers. As we've discussed in the past, our ability to generate contingent commissions is a core part of our business model and can fluctuate quarterly. Contingent commissions are a higher percentage of total revenues in the Specialty Distribution segment as compared to Retail due to the fact that we substantially control underwriting discipline. While organic growth has been pressured in certain parts of our business, primarily due to catastrophe property pricing, we have realized a substantial increase in contingents due to underwriting profitability. Generally, when E&S rates are decreasing, our contingents will increase. This inverse correlation creates more stability in our revenues, margins, and cash flow.

R. Andrew Watts: Thanks, Powell. Good morning, everybody. Before we get into the financial details, I want to talk about a few items. The first is reporting organic growth with contingents as another measure of performance in reference to other public brokers. As we've discussed in the past, our ability to generate contingent commissions is a core part of our business model and can fluctuate quarterly. Contingent commissions are a higher percentage of total revenues in the Specialty Distribution segment as compared to Retail due to the fact that we substantially control underwriting discipline. While organic growth has been pressured in certain parts of our business, primarily due to catastrophe property pricing, we have realized a substantial increase in contingents due to underwriting profitability. Generally, when E&S rates are decreasing, our contingents will increase. This inverse correlation creates more stability in our revenues, margins, and cash flow.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, when we refer to EBITDAC, EBITDAC margin, income before income taxes, or diluted net income per share, we're referring to those measures on an adjusted basis.

Speaker #2: We're over on slide number eight. The Retail segment grew total revenues by 33.4 percent. This growth was driven primarily by acquisition activity over the past year and the organic growth, including contingents, of 1.3 percent.

Speaker #2: The reconciliations of our gap-to-non-gap financial measures can be found either in the appendix of this presentation or in the press release we issued yesterday.

Speaker #2: Since we're in litigation with the startup broker, we are excluding the impact on organic revenue growth associated with individuals that left and joined the startup.

Speaker #2: The impact for the first quarter was approximately $10,000,000. At the end of March, the startup has taken customers representing approximately 31 million dollars of annual revenue, as compared to the 23 million we announced last quarter.

Speaker #2: Contingent commissions grew by an impressive 54 million dollars, with session. The underlying organic increase was driven by minimal storm claim activity and higher underwriting profitability.

Speaker #2: Our EBITDAC margin decreased by 130 basis points to 36 percent, resulting from the quarterly weighting of revenue and profit for legacy Brown & Brown as compared to risk strategies.

Speaker #2: Primarily within our specialty distribution segment. Income before income taxes increased by 28.7% and EBITDAC grew by 36.6%. Our EBITDAC margin was 38.5%, a 40 basis point increase over the first quarter of the prior year.

Andy: Transitioning now to our consolidated results. As a reminder, when we refer to EBITDAC margin, income before income taxes or diluted net income per share, we are referring to those measures on an adjusted basis. The reconciliations of our GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures can be found either in the appendix of this presentation or in the press release we issued yesterday. Now, let's get into more detail regarding our financial performance for the quarter. We are over on page seven. On a consolidated basis, we delivered total revenues of $1.9 billion, growing 35.4% as compared to Q1 2025. Contingent commissions grew by an impressive $54 million, with $22 million coming from Accession. The underlying organic increase was driven by minimal storm claim activity and higher underwriting profitability, primarily within our Specialty Distribution segment.

R. Andrew Watts: Transitioning now to our consolidated results. As a reminder, when we refer to EBITDAC margin, income before income taxes or diluted net income per share, we are referring to those measures on an adjusted basis. The reconciliations of our GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures can be found either in the appendix of this presentation or in the press release we issued yesterday. Now, let's get into more detail regarding our financial performance for the quarter. We are over on page seven. On a consolidated basis, we delivered total revenues of $1.9 billion, growing 35.4% as compared to Q1 2025. Contingent commissions grew by an impressive $54 million, with $22 million coming from Accession. The underlying organic increase was driven by minimal storm claim activity and higher underwriting profitability, primarily within our Specialty Distribution segment.

Speaker #2: This impact of more than 300 basis points offset good underlying margin expansion driven by disciplined expense management. Additionally, there was a net benefit to our margins of approximately 40 to 60 basis points due to individuals that departed to the startup.

Speaker #2: This was a strong result considering the impact from a session, which we'll talk about in a few minutes. And the prior year of flood claims processing revenue.

Speaker #2: As we hire new teammates over the coming quarters, a portion of this margin benefit will moderate. We're over on slide number nine. Specialty Distribution grew total revenues by 40 percent, driven by the acquisition of Assured and a substantial increase in contingent commissions.

Speaker #2: The underlying margin expansion was driven by significantly higher contingent commissions along with our continued discipline, management of our expenses. Regarding the session, we recognize total revenues of approximately $445 million for the quarter.

Speaker #2: The higher contingent commissions of 52 million dollars were driven by 22 million of acquisition activity and 30 million from favorable underwriting performance. We realized approximately $5,000,000 of contingents associated with adjustments to prior year accruals based on finalization of the calculations and approximately $10,000,000 of contingents this quarter that will record over the third and fourth quarters of 2025.

Andy: Income before income taxes increased by 28.7%, and EBITDAC grew by 36.6%. Our EBITDAC margin was 38.5%, a 40 basis point increase over the Q1 of the prior year. This was a strong result considering the impact from Accession, which we'll talk about in a few minutes, and the prior year flood claims processing revenue. The underlying margin expansion was driven by significantly higher contingent commissions, along with our continued discipline management of our expenses. Regarding Accession, we recognized total revenues of approximately $445 million for the quarter. Due to legacy Brown & Brown's high margins in the Q1 associated with our employee benefits businesses and the expected quarterly phasing of revenue and profit for Accession, our adjusted EBITDAC margins were negatively impacted by approximately 200 basis points for the quarter.

R. Andrew Watts: Income before income taxes increased by 28.7%, and EBITDAC grew by 36.6%. Our EBITDAC margin was 38.5%, a 40 basis point increase over the Q1 of the prior year. This was a strong result considering the impact from Accession, which we'll talk about in a few minutes, and the prior year flood claims processing revenue. The underlying margin expansion was driven by significantly higher contingent commissions, along with our continued discipline management of our expenses. Regarding Accession, we recognized total revenues of approximately $445 million for the quarter. Due to legacy Brown & Brown's high margins in the Q1 associated with our employee benefits businesses and the expected quarterly phasing of revenue and profit for Accession, our adjusted EBITDAC margins were negatively impacted by approximately 200 basis points for the quarter.

Speaker #2: For the full year, we still expect the overall adjusted EBITDAC margins for the session business will be around 35%. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 22.8%, a slight increase over the prior year of 21.8%.

Speaker #2: Our EBITDAC margin increased by 30 basis points to 40.8 percent due to higher contingent commissions and our discipline management of our expenses. These were partially offset by the profit associated with lower prior year flood claims processing revenue.

Speaker #2: The incremental rate was driven by an increase in certain state taxes. Diluted net income per share increased 7.8% to $1.39. Our weighted average shares increased by approximately 52 million to $337 million, primarily due to shares issued in connection with the acquisition of a session.

Speaker #2: Turning to cash flow in the balance sheet, we had another strong quarter and generated over $260,000,000 of cash flow from operations increasing approximately $50,000,000 or 23 percent versus the prior year.

Speaker #2: During the last six months, we reduced our share count by approximately $5 million or 1.4% through $350 million of stock repurchases. Lastly, our dividends paid per share increased by 10% as compared to the first quarter of 2025.

Speaker #2: Our ratio of cash flow from operations to total revenues was approximately 14 percent for the quarter, down slightly as compared to 15 percent in the prior year.

Speaker #2: The decline reflected a session integration cost and higher than anticipated final earnout payments related to acquisitions that outperformed our original estimates. These items offset strong underlying cash conversion.

Andy: For the full year, we still expect the overall adjusted EBITDAC margins for the Accession business will be around 35%. Our effective tax rate for the Q was 22.8%, a slight increase over the prior year of 21.8%. The incremental rate was driven by an increase in certain state taxes. Diluted net income per share increased 7.8% to $1.39. Our weighted average shares increased by approximately 52 million to 337 million, primarily due to shares issued in connection with the acquisition of Accession. During the last 6 months, we reduced our share count by approximately $5 million or 1.4% through $350 million of stock repurchases.

R. Andrew Watts: For the full year, we still expect the overall adjusted EBITDAC margins for the Accession business will be around 35%. Our effective tax rate for the Q was 22.8%, a slight increase over the prior year of 21.8%. The incremental rate was driven by an increase in certain state taxes. Diluted net income per share increased 7.8% to $1.39. Our weighted average shares increased by approximately 52 million to 337 million, primarily due to shares issued in connection with the acquisition of Accession. During the last 6 months, we reduced our share count by approximately $5 million or 1.4% through $350 million of stock repurchases.

Speaker #2: We're over on slide number eight. The retail segment grew total revenues by 33.4%. This growth was driven primarily by acquisition activity over the past year, and the organic growth, including contingents, of 1.3%.

Speaker #2: We continue to anticipate good cash generation for the remainder of the year and will balance our deployment of capital between share repurchases, M&A, dividends, and de-levering.

Speaker #2: Since we're in litigation with the startup broker, we are excluding the impact on organic revenue growth associated with individuals that left and joined the startup.

Speaker #2: With that, let me turn it back over to Pal for some comments regarding technology, data, and artificial intelligence.

Speaker #2: The impact for the first quarter was approximately $10 million. At the end of March, the startup has taken customers representing approximately 31 million dollars of annual revenue, as compared to the 23 million we announced last quarter.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Andy. And great report. I was going to clarify that on the share repurchases, we reduced the share count by about $5,000,000 shares. In terms of the purchasing and of $350,000,000 of share repurchases.

Speaker #2: Our EBITDAC margin decreased by 130 basis points to 36%, resulting from the quarterly weighting of revenue and profit, for legacy Brown & Brown as compared to risk strategies.

Speaker #1: So let's change gears and discuss technology and data as those topics are shaping how we're thinking about the future of insurance brokerage and how we're positioned to capture the opportunities on the horizon.

Andy: Lastly, our dividends paid per share increased by 10% as compared to Q1 2025. We're over on slide number 8. The Retail segment grew total revenues by 33.4%. This growth was driven primarily by acquisition activity over the past year and organic growth, including contingents, of 1.3%. Since we're in litigation with the startup broker, we are excluding the impact on organic revenue growth associated with individuals that left and joined the startup. The impact for Q1 was approximately $10 million. At the end of March, the startup has taken customers representing approximately $31 million of annual revenue as compared to the $23 million we announced last quarter.

R. Andrew Watts: Lastly, our dividends paid per share increased by 10% as compared to Q1 2025. We're over on slide number 8. The Retail segment grew total revenues by 33.4%. This growth was driven primarily by acquisition activity over the past year and organic growth, including contingents, of 1.3%. Since we're in litigation with the startup broker, we are excluding the impact on organic revenue growth associated with individuals that left and joined the startup. The impact for Q1 was approximately $10 million. At the end of March, the startup has taken customers representing approximately $31 million of annual revenue as compared to the $23 million we announced last quarter.

Speaker #1: I'm on slide 11. Our technology and data journey commenced over 10 years ago, specifically when we began platform rationalization and data standardization across our business.

Speaker #2: This impact of more than 300 basis points offset good underlying margin expansion, driven by discipline expense management. Additionally, there was a net benefit to our margins of approximately 40 to 60 basis points due to individuals that departed to the startup.

Speaker #1: These investments were foundational as AI is only effective when built on clean, standardized, and scalable data platforms. Like most companies, our data journey is ongoing.

Speaker #2: As we hired new teammates over the coming quarters, a portion of this margin benefit will moderate. We're over on slide number nine. Specialty distribution grew total revenues by 40%, driven by the acquisition of a session and a substantial increase in contingent commissions.

Speaker #1: As we're always integrating acquisitions, seeking to better capture data and enhance our analytics. Over the past few years, we've been shifting more of our technology-focused towards innovation and artificial intelligence.

Speaker #1: Our technology strategy is aligned with our goal to be the leading global provider of insurance solutions for our customers. On slide 12. Throughout our technology evolution, the focus has remained consistent.

Speaker #2: The higher contingent commissions of 52 million dollars were driven by 22 million of acquisition activity and 30 million from favorable underwriting performance. We realized approximately $5 million of contingents associated with adjustments to prior year accruals based on finalization of the calculations, and approximately $10 million of contingents this quarter that were recorded over the third and fourth quarters of 2025.

Andy: Our EBITDAC margin decreased by 130 basis points to 36%, resulting from the quarterly weighting of revenue and profit for legacy Brown & Brown as compared to Risk Strategies. This impact of more than 300 basis points offset good underlying margin expansion driven by disciplined expense management. Additionally, there was a net benefit to our margins of approximately 40 to 60 basis points due to individuals that departed to the startup. As we hire new teammates over the coming quarters, a portion of this margin benefit will moderate. We're over on slide number 9. Specialty Distribution grew total revenues by 40%, driven by the acquisition of Accession and a substantial increase in contingent commissions. The higher contingent commissions of $52 million were driven by $22 million of acquisition activity and $30 million from favorable underwriting performance.

R. Andrew Watts: Our EBITDAC margin decreased by 130 basis points to 36%, resulting from the quarterly weighting of revenue and profit for legacy Brown & Brown as compared to Risk Strategies. This impact of more than 300 basis points offset good underlying margin expansion driven by disciplined expense management. Additionally, there was a net benefit to our margins of approximately 40 to 60 basis points due to individuals that departed to the startup. As we hire new teammates over the coming quarters, a portion of this margin benefit will moderate. We're over on slide number 9. Specialty Distribution grew total revenues by 40%, driven by the acquisition of Accession and a substantial increase in contingent commissions. The higher contingent commissions of $52 million were driven by $22 million of acquisition activity and $30 million from favorable underwriting performance.

Speaker #1: Drive revenue growth, enhance the customer experience, and improve teammate effectiveness and productivity. Our efforts are focused on developing enhanced solutions to increase sales velocity, improve customer interactions, and reduce manual low-complexity or repetitive work.

Speaker #2: Our EBITDAC margin increased by 30 basis points to 40.8% due to higher contingent commissions and our discipline management of our expenses. These were partially offset by the profit associated with lower prior year flood claims processing revenue.

Speaker #1: These efforts will empower our teammates to spend more time advising customers underwriting and helping companies and individuals better manage risk. Our progression is intentional and therefore we did not jump directly to AI.

Speaker #1: We're investing in the fundamentals first, which is enabling us to innovate and deploy AI reasonably at scale and in ways that directly support growth across the company.

Speaker #2: Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet, we had another strong quarter and generated over $260 million of cash flow from operations, increasing approximately $50 million or 23% versus the prior year.

Speaker #1: We view AI as an enabler and an accelerator of our existing strategy. As we deploy AI capabilities, they are led by the business and are focused on targeted use cases that have measurable success metrics that can be scaled.

Speaker #2: Our ratio of cash flow from operations to total revenues was approximately 14% for the quarter, down slightly as compared to 15% in the prior year.

Andy: We realized approximately $5 million of contingents associated with adjustments to prior year accruals based on finalization of the calculations and approximately $10 million of contingents this quarter that were recorded over the Q3 and Q4 of 2025. Our EBITDA margin increased by 30 basis points to 40.8% due to higher contingent commissions and our disciplined management of our expenses. These were partially offset by the profit associated with lower prior year flood claims processing revenue. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet. We had another strong quarter and generated over $260 million of cash flow from operations, increasing approximately $50 million or 23% versus the prior year. Our ratio of cash flow from operations to total revenues was approximately 14% for the quarter, down slightly as compared to 15% in the prior year.

R. Andrew Watts: We realized approximately $5 million of contingents associated with adjustments to prior year accruals based on finalization of the calculations and approximately $10 million of contingents this quarter that were recorded over the Q3 and Q4 of 2025. Our EBITDA margin increased by 30 basis points to 40.8% due to higher contingent commissions and our disciplined management of our expenses. These were partially offset by the profit associated with lower prior year flood claims processing revenue. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet. We had another strong quarter and generated over $260 million of cash flow from operations, increasing approximately $50 million or 23% versus the prior year. Our ratio of cash flow from operations to total revenues was approximately 14% for the quarter, down slightly as compared to 15% in the prior year.

Speaker #2: The decline reflected a session integration cost and higher than anticipated final earnout payments, related to acquisitions that outperformed our original estimates. These items offset strong underlying cash conversion.

Speaker #1: Our value proposition continues to be built on trusted advisory relationships delivering outstanding service strong carrier relationships and disciplined underwriting. We're in the early stages of a multi-year journey that has already delivered value through enhanced capabilities.

Speaker #2: We continue to anticipate good cash generation for the remainder of the year and will balance our deployment of capital between share repurchases, M&A, dividends, and de-levering, with that, let me turn it back over to Pal for some comments regarding technology, data, and artificial intelligence.

Speaker #1: We believe embracing AI will support incremental revenue growth and operating leverage over the long term. I'm on slide 13. Now let's talk about how we're building an AI-powered organization with enterprise capabilities that empowers local development to solve real business needs.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Andy. And great report. I was going to clarify that on the share repurchases, we reduced the share count by about 5 million shares.

Speaker #1: Our organization is designed, incubate AI solutions quickly and then deploy the capabilities at scale. We're investing in world-class data and AI teammates, enterprise-grade technologies, and a strong ecosystem of technology partners.

Speaker #2: In terms of the purchasing and the 350 million dollars of share repurchases. So let's change gears and discuss technology and data, as those topics are shaping how we're thinking about the future of insurance brokerage and how we're positioned to capture the opportunities on the horizon.

Speaker #2: I'm on slide 11. Our technology and data journey commenced over 10 years ago, specifically when we began platform rationalization and data standardization across our business.

Andy: The decline reflected a session integration cost and higher than anticipated final earn-out payments related to acquisitions that outperformed our original estimates. These items offset strong underlying cash conversion. We continue to anticipate good cash generation for the remainder of the year and will balance our deployment of capital between share repurchases, M&A, dividends, and de-levering. With that, let me turn it back over to Powell for some comments regarding technology, data, and artificial intelligence.

R. Andrew Watts: The decline reflected a session integration cost and higher than anticipated final earn-out payments related to acquisitions that outperformed our original estimates. These items offset strong underlying cash conversion. We continue to anticipate good cash generation for the remainder of the year and will balance our deployment of capital between share repurchases, M&A, dividends, and de-levering. With that, let me turn it back over to Powell for some comments regarding technology, data, and artificial intelligence.

Speaker #1: Our approach is to combine out-of-the-box AI tools and proprietary Brown & Brown AI products that embed our data workflows and deep insurance knowledge. We're embracing an AI-first culture built on fail-fast incubation, cloud-native platforms, modern APIs, and a scalable data foundation.

Speaker #2: These investments were foundational, as AI is only effective when built on clean, standardized, and scalable data platforms. Like most companies, our data journey is ongoing.

Speaker #1: Our framework is anchored in secure design principles and reinforced by strong governance and responsible AI practices. This structure allows us to prove value early, subject ideas to rigorous scrutiny, and scale quickly across the company.

Speaker #2: As we're always integrating acquisitions, seeking to better capture data and enhance our analytics. Over the past few years, we've been shifting more of our technology-focus towards innovation and artificial intelligence.

J. Powell Brown: Thanks, Andy, and great report. I was gonna clarify that on the share repurchases, we reduced the share count by about 5 million shares in terms of the purchasing and $350 million of share repurchases. Let's change gears and discuss technology and data as those topics are shaping how we're thinking about the future of insurance brokerage and how we're positioned to capture the opportunities on the horizon. I'm on slide 11. Our technology and data journey commenced over 10 years ago, specifically when we began platform rationalization and data standardization across our business. These investments were foundational as AI is only effective when built on clean, standardized, and scalable data platforms. Like most companies, our data journey is ongoing as we're always integrating acquisitions, seeking to better capture data and enhance our analytics.

Speaker #2: Our technology strategy is aligned with our goal to be the leading global provider of insurance solutions for our customers. On slide 12. Throughout our technology evolution, the focus has remained consistent.

Speaker #1: I'm on slide 14. Here are just a few of our AI-powered solutions that are live and delivering value. We're scaling AI agents that will automate more than 25 percent of the end-to-end submission process for many of our programs and wholesale businesses.

Speaker #2: Drive revenue growth, enhance the customer experience, and improve teammate effectiveness and productivity. Our efforts are focused on developing enhanced solutions to increase sales velocity, improve customer interactions, and reduce manual low-complexity or repetitive work.

Speaker #1: Achieving material cost reductions and removing throughput limits. This incremental underwriting capacity is being redirected to high-value, revenue growth activities. These agents are enabling more processing in the same day, thereby improving the customer experience, accelerating growth through higher win rates, and driving stronger underwriting results for our carriers.

Speaker #2: These efforts will empower our teammates to spend more time advising customers, underwriting, and helping companies and individuals better manage risk. Our progression is intentional and therefore we did not jump directly to AI.

Speaker #1: In retail, our policy checking agents automate traditionally manual proposal comparison and policy reviews. Improving risk insight while reducing E&O exposure. We have also created capabilities to pull key features from complex policies to create clear customer summaries, simplify customer conversations, and improve retention.

Speaker #2: We're investing in the fundamentals first, which is enabling us to innovate and deploy AI reasonably, at scale, and in ways that directly support growth across the company.

J. Powell Brown: Over the past few years, we've been shifting more of our technology focus towards innovation and artificial intelligence. Our technology strategy is aligned with our goal to be the leading global provider of insurance solutions for our customers. On slide 12. Throughout our technology evolution, the focus has remained consistent. Drive revenue growth, enhance the customer experience, and improve teammate effectiveness and productivity. Our efforts are focused on developing enhanced solutions to increase sales velocity, improve customer interactions, and reduce manual, low complexity or repetitive work. These efforts will empower our teammates to spend more time advising customers, underwriting and helping companies and individuals better manage risk. Our progression is intentional and therefore we did not jump directly to AI. We're investing in the fundamentals first, which is enabling us to innovate and deploy AI reasonably at scale and in ways that directly support growth across the company.

Speaker #2: We view AI as an enabler and an accelerator of our existing strategy. As we deploy AI capabilities that are led by the business and are focused on targeted use cases, that have measurable success metrics that can be scaled.

Speaker #1: Lastly, we've built a proprietary platform that electronically interfaces with carrier billing portals automatically extracts and validates billing data flags exceptions for review and then files the customer policy and our agency management system.

Speaker #2: Our value proposition continues to be built on trusted advisory relationships, delivering outstanding service, strong carrier relationships, and disciplined underwriting. We're in the early stages of a multi-year journey that is already delivered value through enhanced capabilities.

Speaker #1: This platform is already saving more than 50,000 hours annually and continues to be rolled out across the company. I'm on slide 15. This slide frames how we think about our customers that pay under 25,000 in premium.

Speaker #2: We believe embracing AI will support incremental revenue growth and operating leverage over the long term. I'm on slide 13. Now let's talk about how we're building an AI-powered organization with enterprise capabilities that empowers local development to solve real business needs.

Speaker #1: In retail, commercial and employee benefits accounts under this threshold and monoline personalized represents between one and two percent of total retail revenues. Excuse me.

Speaker #2: Our organization is designed, incubate AI solutions quickly and then deploy the capabilities at scale. We're investing in world-class data and AI teammates, enterprise-grade technologies, and a strong ecosystem of technology partners.

J. Powell Brown: We view AI as an enabler and an accelerator of our existing strategy. As we deploy AI capabilities, they are led by the business and are focused on targeted use cases that have measurable success metrics that can be scaled. Our value proposition continues to be built on trusted advisory relationships, delivering outstanding service, strong carrier relationships, and disciplined underwriting. We're in the early stages of a multi-year journey that has already delivered value through enhanced capabilities. We believe embracing AI will support incremental revenue growth and operating leverage over the long term. I'm on slide 13. Let's talk about how we're building an AI-powered organization with enterprise capabilities that empowers local development to solve real business needs. Our organization is designed to incubate AI solutions quickly and then deploy the capabilities at scale.

Speaker #1: Keep in mind that some of these policies are placed through an intermediary making them more complex and less likely to be disrupted. We believe the primary risk is that customers think they no longer need a broker and choose to go direct.

Speaker #1: This can happen today with or without AI. Our differentiators remain breadth of carrier relationships, a solution mindset, technology, industry experience, service, and claims advocacy.

Speaker #2: Our approach is to combine out-of-the-box AI tools and proprietary Brown & Brown AI products that embed our data, workflows, and deep insurance knowledge. We're embracing an AI-first culture built on fail-fast incubation, cloud-native platforms, modern APIs, and a scalable data foundation.

Speaker #1: Our opportunity is to leverage these differentiators to grow market share over the coming quarters. In specially distribution, we've built a highly diversified and scalable specialty insurance distribution and underwriting platform with technology powering the core part of our value proposition.

Speaker #2: Our framework is anchored in secure design principles and reinforced by strong governance and responsible AI practices. This structure allows us to prove value early, subject ideas to rigorous scrutiny, and scale quickly across the company.

Speaker #1: We think business segments with the highest theoretical AI exposure are admitted aggregators and highly standardized small accounts businesses. These are not areas where we have invested significant capital or have material revenue.

Speaker #2: I'm on slide 14. Here are just a few of our AI-powered solutions that are live and delivering value. We're scaling AI agents that will automate more than 25% of the end-to-end submission process for many of our programs and wholesale businesses.

J. Powell Brown: We're investing in world-class data and AI teammates, enterprise-grade technologies, and a strong ecosystem of technology partners. Our approach is to combine out-of-the-box AI tools and proprietary Brown & Brown AI products that embed our data workflows and deep insurance knowledge. We're embracing an AI-first culture built on fail-fast incubation, cloud-native platforms, modern APIs, and a scalable data foundation. Our framework is anchored in secure design principles and reinforced by strong governance and responsible AI practices. This structure allows us to prove value early, subject ideas to rigorous scrutiny, and scale quickly across the company. I'm on slide 14. Here are just a few of our AI-powered solutions that are live and delivering value. We're scaling AI agents that will automate more than 25% of the end-to-end submission process for many of our programs and wholesale businesses, achieving material cost reductions and removing throughput limits.

Speaker #1: Specialty distribution's business model is built on niche specialization, with a significant portion of our revenue and profit generated by businesses with structural moats. These include regulation, capital or technology intensity, underwriting complexity, historical data, omnichannel distribution networks, claims management, and the capacity for long-standing, trusted carrier relationships.

Speaker #2: Achieving material cost reductions and removing throughput limits. This incremental underwriting capacity is being redirected to high-value revenue growth activities. These agents are enabling more processing in the same day, thereby improving the customer experience, accelerating growth through higher win rates, and driving stronger underwriting results for our carriers.

Speaker #1: The opportunities created by AI and further industry automation would include higher submission flow and new revenue channels thereby helping us capture more market share.

Speaker #2: In retail, our policy checking agents automate traditionally manual proposal comparison and policy reviews. Improving risk insight while reducing E&O exposure. We have also created capabilities to pull key features from complex policies to create clear customer summaries, simplify customer conversations, and improve retention.

Speaker #1: In summary, we believe technology is an enabler that will drive incremental revenue growth and margin improvement in the future. Now, I have a few closing comments, and then we'll open it up to M&A.

Speaker #1: As has been the case in recent quarters, there are ongoing sources of volatility in the broader environment. Currently, geopolitical turmoil is causing some business leaders to have a more cautious bias.

Speaker #2: Lastly, we've built a proprietary platform that electronically interfaces with carrier, billing portals, automatically extracts and validates billing data, flags exceptions for review, and then files the customer policy in our agency management system.

Speaker #1: The impact of higher oil prices and inflationary ripple effects may influence growth in certain sectors. What we've learned from our customers post-COVID is that they're resilient, creative, and adaptive.

J. Powell Brown: This incremental underwriting capacity is being redirected to high-value revenue growth activities. These agents are enabling more processing in the same day, thereby improving the customer experience, accelerating growth through higher win rates, and driving stronger underwriting results for our carriers. In Retail, our policy checking agents automate traditionally manual proposal comparison and policy reviews, improving risk insight while reducing E&O exposure. We have also created capabilities that pull key features from complex policies to create clear customer summaries, simplify the customer conversations, and improve retention. Lastly, we've built a proprietary platform that electronically interfaces with carrier billing portals, automatically extracts and validates billing data, flags exceptions for review, and then files the customer policy in our agency management system. This platform is already saving more than 50,000 hours annually and continues to be rolled out across the company. I'm on slide 15.

Speaker #2: This platform is already saving more than 50,000 hours annually and continues to be rolled out across the company. I'm on slide 15. This slide frames how we think about our customers that pay under $25,000 in premium.

Speaker #1: Therefore, we feel comfortable our customers will navigate the current challenges and capture growth opportunities. From a pricing standpoint, we expect admitted rates will continue to moderate slightly.

Speaker #2: In retail, commercial and employee benefits accounts under this threshold and monoline personalized represents between 1 and 2 percent of total retail revenues. Excuse me.

Speaker #1: E&S rates will remain bifurcated, with casualty increasing and CAT property decreasing at levels similar to the first quarter. However, we would not be surprised if, in the second quarter, certain carriers or MGAs become more aggressive related to CAT property placements.

Speaker #2: Keep in mind that some of these policies are placed through an intermediary making them more complex and less likely to be disrupted. We believe the primary risk is that customers think they no longer need a broker and choose to go direct.

Speaker #1: From our perspective, we will remain disciplined and will not compromise the quality of our underwriting. From an assession integration standpoint, we're focused on bringing teams together enhancing collaboration and leveraging our capabilities to win and retain more customers.

Speaker #2: This can happen today with or without AI. Our differentiators remain breadth of carrier relationships, a solution mindset, technology, industry experience, service, and claims advocacy.

Speaker #2: Our opportunity is to leverage these differentiators to grow market share over the coming quarters. In specially distribution, we've built a highly diversified and scalable specialty insurance distribution and underwriting platform.

Speaker #1: Integration activities are on track for us to deliver our EBITDA synergies of 30 to 40 million this year. Teams doing a great job and I'm extremely pleased with our progress.

J. Powell Brown: This slide frames how we think about our customers that pay under $25,000 in premium. In Retail, commercial and employee benefits accounts under this threshold and monoline personal lines represents between 1% and 2% of total Retail revenues. Excuse me. Keep in mind that some of these policies are placed through an intermediary, making them more complex and less likely to be disrupted. We believe the primary risk is that customers think they no longer need a broker and choose to go direct. This can happen today with or without AI. Our differentiators remain breadth of carrier relationships, a solution mindset, technology, industry experience, service, and claims advocacy. Our opportunity is to leverage these differentiators to grow market share over the coming quarters.

Speaker #1: We talked earlier about the positive impact of AI on our business. We feel confident that it will improve the customer experience the underwriting and placement process the productivity of our teammates and drive incremental growth in revenue and margins over the coming quarters.

Speaker #2: With technology powering the core part of our value proposition. We think business segments with the highest theoretical AI exposure are admitted aggregators and highly standardized small accounts businesses.

Speaker #1: Our balance sheet and cash flow are strong and therefore our focus will continue to be on deleveraging investing in our teammates enhancing our technology capabilities repurchasing shares and acquiring smaller or specialized firms that fit culturally and make sense financially.

Speaker #2: These are not areas where we have invested significant capital or have material revenue. Specially distributions business model is built on niche specialization with a significant portion of our revenue and profit generated by businesses with structural moats.

Speaker #1: We will continue to invest our capital with the goal of driving long-term shareholder value. We feel great about the business about our activity levels the integration efforts and how the team is leveraging our capabilities for the benefits of our customers.

Speaker #2: These include regulation, capital or technology intensity, underwriting complexity, historical data, omnichannel distribution networks, claims management, and the capacity for long-standing trusted carrier relationships. The opportunities created by AI and further industry automation would include higher submission flow and new revenue channels, thereby helping us capture more market share.

J. Powell Brown: In Specialty Distribution, we've built a highly diversified and scalable specialty insurance distribution and underwriting platform with technology powering the core part of our value proposition. We think business segments with the highest theoretical AI exposure are admitted aggregators and highly standardized small accounts businesses. These are not areas where we have invested significant capital or have material revenue. Specialty Distribution's business model is built on niche specialization with a significant portion of our revenue and profit generated by businesses with structural moats. These include regulation, capital or technology intensity, underwriting complexity, historical data, omni-channel distribution networks, claims management, and the capacity for long-standing trusted carrier relationships. The opportunities created by AI and further industry automation would include higher submission flow and new revenue channels, thereby helping us capture more market share.

Speaker #1: With our laser focus on execution in the customer, we're positioned to deliver solid top- and bottom-line results over the coming quarters. With that, we'll turn it back off back to Tawanda and open up the lines for Q&A.

Speaker #2: In summary, we believe technology is an enabler that will drive incremental revenue growth and margin improvement in the future. Now, I have a few closing comments, and then we'll open it up to M&A.

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Speaker #2: As has been the case in recent quarters, there are ongoing sources of volatility in the broader environment. Currently, geopolitical turmoil is causing some business leaders to have a more cautious bias.

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Speaker #2: The impact of higher oil prices and inflationary ripple effects may influence growth in certain sectors. What we've learned from our customers post-COVID is that they're resilient, creative, and adaptive.

Speaker #2: Our first question comes from the line of Rob Cox with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Yeah, first question I had for you was on the operating model in retail. It sounds like you're moving to a specialization model versus the local and regional models that Brown & Ascension had previously.

Speaker #2: Therefore, we feel comfortable our customers will navigate the current challenges and capture growth opportunities. From a pricing standpoint, we expect admitted rates will continue to moderate slightly.

Speaker #3: I was just hoping you could talk through how is this changing how your business operates? Does this change how producers are incentivized? And is it right to think that this model is moving towards the model that a lot of your larger competitors have today?

Speaker #2: E&S rates will remain bifurcated with casualty increasing and CAT property decreasing at levels similar to the first quarter. However, we would not be surprised if in the second quarter, if certain carriers or MGAs become more aggressive related to CAT property placements.

J. Powell Brown: In summary, we believe technology is an enabler that will drive incremental revenue growth and margin improvement in the future. I have a few closing comments, and then we'll open it up to M&A. As has been the case in recent quarters, there are ongoing sources of volatility in the broader environment. Currently, geopolitical turmoil is causing some business leaders to have a more cautious bias. The impact of higher oil prices and inflationary ripple effects may influence growth in certain sectors. What we've learned from our customers post-COVID is that they're resilient, creative, and adaptive. Therefore, we feel comfortable our customers will navigate the current challenges and capture growth opportunities. From a pricing standpoint, we expect admitted rates will continue to moderate slightly. E&S rates will remain bifurcated, with casualty increasing and catastrophe property decreasing at levels similar to Q1.

Speaker #4: I wouldn't want you to think exactly the way you described it, Rob. Think about they had they meaning strategies had a regional sales model and we had a local sales model.

Speaker #2: From our perspective, we will remain disciplined and will not compromise the quality of our underwriting. From an accession integration standpoint, we're focused on bringing teams together, enhancing collaboration, and leveraging our capabilities to win and retain more customers.

Speaker #4: And we're blending, they're picking the best of both, which is enabling, we believe, producers to have access to more capabilities and will enable them to be successful.

Speaker #2: Integration activities are on track for us to deliver our EBITDA synergies of 30 to 40 million this year. The team's doing a great job, and I'm extremely pleased with our progress.

Speaker #4: So I wouldn't want you to draw the conclusion that we're trying to move towards what you were referring to on some of those larger competitors.

Speaker #2: We talked earlier about the positive impact of AI on our business. We feel confident that it will improve the customer experience, the underwriting and placement process, the productivity of our teammates and drive incremental growth and revenue and margins over the coming quarters.

Speaker #4: I think it's kind of unique unto ourselves and I think it's actually been very positively received by our producers.

Speaker #3: Okay, great. Thanks. And then just follow up on the specialty pharma revenue model change. Just curious how this came about. Is this shifting from commission to a fee?

J. Powell Brown: However, we would not be surprised if in Q2 if certain carriers or MGAs become more aggressive related to cat property placements. From our perspective, we will remain disciplined and will not compromise the quality of our underwriting. From an Accession integration standpoint, we're focused on bringing teams together, enhancing collaboration, and leveraging our capabilities to win and retain more customers. Integration activities are on track for us to deliver our EBITDA synergies of $30 to 40 million this year. The team's doing a great job, and I'm extremely pleased with our progress. We talked earlier about the positive impact of AI on our business. We feel confident that it will improve the customer experience, the underwriting and placement process, the productivity of our teammates, and drive incremental growth in revenue and margins over the coming quarters.

Speaker #2: Our balance sheet and cash flow are strong, and therefore, our focus will continue to be on delivering investing in our teammates, enhancing our technology capabilities, repurchasing shares, and acquiring smaller or specialized firms that fit culturally and make sense financially.

Speaker #3: Why make this change and why now?

Speaker #4: All right. So first of all, let's talk about what the business does. The business helps our customers and their employees reduce their pharmacy spend.

Speaker #2: We will continue to invest our capital with the goal of driving long-term shareholder value. We feel great about the business, about our activity levels, the integration efforts, and how the team is leveraging our capabilities for the benefits of our customers.

Speaker #4: And so the model is going from a volume-based model to a PE/PM model over the next several quarters.

Speaker #2: With our laser focus on execution and the customer, we're positioned to deliver solid top and bottom line results over the coming quarters. With that, we'll turn it back off to Tawanda and open up the lines for Q&A.

Speaker #3: Okay, thank you.

Speaker #4: Okay.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tracy Bengigu with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

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Speaker #5: Thank you. I appreciate seeing your statistic about personalized small and micro commercial policies with less than 25,000 in premium to be about 1 to 2 percent of your retail revenues.

J. Powell Brown: Our balance sheet and cash flow are strong. Therefore our focus will continue to be on delevering, investing in our teammates, enhancing our technology capabilities, repurchasing shares, and acquiring smaller or specialized firms that fit culturally and make sense financially. We will continue to invest our capital with the goal of driving long-term shareholder value. We feel great about the business, about our activity levels, the integration efforts, and how the team is leveraging our capabilities for the benefits of our customers. With our laser focus on execution and the customer, we're positioned to deliver solid top and bottom-line results over the coming quarters. With that, we'll turn it back to Tawanda and open up the line for Q&A.

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Speaker #5: But can you unpack why looking at that level of premiums is the right starting point? Why not $50,000 or $100,000?

Speaker #4: Well, I think what well, the way we view it is we are working with complex and customized commercial risks. And so you can have that absolutely in accounts that pay in excess of 25,000 dollars.

Speaker #1: Our first question comes from the line of Rob Cox with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Yeah, first question I have for you was on the operating model in retail. It sounds like you're moving to a specialization model versus the local and regional models that Brown & Ascension had previously.

Speaker #4: So that's how we've defined it. And again, if the business is highly standardized and not complex, then I think your point is valid. But I would tell you that in the middle market that we are so active in, that is the space that we operate in, the complex and the customized commercial risk.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask the question, please press star one one on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. We ask that you limit yourself to one question. You may then return to the queue for additional questions. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Robert Cox with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: I wouldn't want you to think exactly the way you described it, Rob. Think about they had, they meaning Restrategys, had a regional sales model, and we had a local sales model, and we're blending they're picking the best of both, which is enabling, we believe, producers to have access to more capabilities and will enable them to be successful.

Speaker #4: So that's why we define it at $25,000.

Speaker #2: Okay. I'm wondering if you could provide a new outlook for contingent. Last quarter you guided $15 million of less contingent and specialty distribution for the full year '26.

Robert Cox: Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Rob Cox: Hey, thanks. Good morning.

J. Powell Brown: Good morning.

Robert Cox: First question I had for you was on the operating model in Retail. It sounds like you're moving to a specialization model versus the local and regional models that Brown & Brown had previously. I was just hoping you could talk through, you know, how is this changing how your business operates? Does this change how producers are incentivized? Is it right to think that, you know, this model is moving towards, you know, the model that a lot of your larger competitors have today?

Rob Cox: First question I had for you was on the operating model in Retail. It sounds like you're moving to a specialization model versus the local and regional models that Brown & Brown had previously. I was just hoping you could talk through, you know, how is this changing how your business operates? Does this change how producers are incentivized? Is it right to think that, you know, this model is moving towards, you know, the model that a lot of your larger competitors have today?

Speaker #2: And you're trending so far ahead of that.

Speaker #4: So I wouldn't want you to draw the conclusion that we're trying to move towards what you were referring to on some of those larger competitors.

Speaker #4: Exclusive year, you're breaking up. Yeah.

Speaker #2: Okay. I was wondering if you could provide an updated outlook on contingents. Last quarter, you guided to $15 million or less of contingents within Specialty Distribution.

Speaker #4: I think it's kind of unique unto ourselves. And I think it's actually been very positively received by our producers.

Speaker #2: And I'm just wondering, given your Q1 performance so far, you're trending ahead of that. And it seemed like there have been some one-timers as well.

Speaker #3: Okay, great. Thanks. And then just follow up on the specialty pharma revenue model change. Just curious how this came about. Is this shifting from commission to a fee?

Speaker #2: So how should we put those pieces together?

J. Powell Brown: I wouldn't want you to think exactly the way you described it, Rob. Think about they had, they meaning Risk Strategies had a regional sales model, and we had a local sales model, and we're blending. They're picking the best of both, which is enabling, we believe, producers to have access to more capabilities and will enable them to be successful. I wouldn't want you to draw the conclusion that we're trying to move towards what you were referring to on some of those larger competitors. I think it's kind of unique unto ourselves, and I think it's actually been very positively received by our producers.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Tracy. Can you hear us okay?

Speaker #2: Yes.

Speaker #4: Okay, perfect. Sorry, I didn’t know if it was you breaking up or on our end. Based on the performance in the first quarter, we are anticipating that our contingent commissions for the entire company will be up this year.

Speaker #3: Why make this change and why now?

Speaker #4: All right. So first of all, let's talk about what the business does. The business helps our customers and their employees reduce their pharmacy spend.

Speaker #4: We had an outstanding first quarter.

Speaker #4: And so the model is going from a volume-based model to a PE/PM model. Over the next several quarters,

Speaker #5: Okay. Is there any direction you could provide for that?

Speaker #4: Let's see. Well, last year we were up—I think we were about $255 million—sorry, hold on, let me double-check here. We were, yeah, we were about $255 million last year.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tracy Benguigui with Wolf Research. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: And obviously, we had really nice upside in the first quarter. So we would anticipate most of that continuing to flow through on a variance for the full year.

Robert Cox: Okay, great. Thanks. Just follow up on the specialty pharma revenue model change. Just curious how this came about. You know, is this shifting from commission to a fee? Why make this change, and why now?

Rob Cox: Okay, great. Thanks. Just follow up on the specialty pharma revenue model change. Just curious how this came about. You know, is this shifting from commission to a fee? Why make this change, and why now?

Speaker #5: Okay. I guess part of that was you mentioned 30 million from favorable underwriting performance. But if we're in a soft market, shouldn't we see some of that margin abating?

Speaker #5: But can you unpack why looking at that level of premiums is the right starting point? Why not 50,000 or 100,000?

J. Powell Brown: All right. First of all, let's talk about what the business does. The business helps our customers and their employees reduce their pharmacy spend. The model is going from a volume-based model to a PEPM model over the next several quarters.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So I think that's maybe one of the things worth us just clarifying real quickly because keep in mind in the specialty distribution space, at least for us, is that we calculate our contingents on a program-by-program basis.

Speaker #4: Well, I think the way we view it is we are working with complex and customized commercial risks. And so you can have that absolutely in accounts that pay in excess of 25,000.

Speaker #4: They're not built upon overall industry profitability, and so some people have asked us about that in the past. In our prepared comments, we said that we substantially control all of the underwriting rigor and discipline, and we believe that we run some of the most profitable programs in the industry for our carrier partners.

Robert Cox: Okay, thank you.

Rob Cox: Okay, thank you.

J. Powell Brown: Okay.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tracy Benguigui with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Tracy Benguigui: Thank you. I appreciate seeing your statistic about personal line, small and micro commercial policies with less than $25,000 in premium to be about 1% to 2% of your Retail revenues. Can you unpack why looking at that level of premiums is the right starting point? Like, why not $50,000 or $100,000?

Speaker #4: And deliver great products for our customers that are out there. And so we're very, very in tune with making sure that we maintain profitability.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Elsie Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: So that's why we define it at 25,000.

Speaker #1: Okay. I wonder if you could provide a new outlook for contingent last quarter. You guided 15 million of less contingent and specialty distribution for the full year '26.

J. Powell Brown: Well, I think, well, the way we view it is we are working with complex and customized commercial risks. You can have that, absolutely in accounts that pay in excess of $25,000. That's how we've defined it. Again, if it, if the business is highly standardized and not complex, then I think your point is valid. I would tell you that in the middle market that we are so active in, that is the space that we operate in, the complex and the customized commercial risk. That's why we define it at $25,000.

Speaker #6: Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question, if you look at your contingents over the past year, what percentage is volume-based versus profit-based? And would you expect the mix between the two to change over the course of the next year?

Speaker #1: And your trending so far ahead of that.

Speaker #4: Exclusive year, you're breaking up.

Speaker #6: Yeah.

Speaker #1: Okay. I was wondering if you could provide an updated outlook on contingent last quarter. You guided 15 million of less contingents within specialty distribution.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Elise. On the contingent commissions, almost all of those are based on profitability. There's a few of them that have a combination of volume and profit, but that's a pretty small percentage.

Speaker #1: And I'm just wondering given your one Q performance so far, you're trending ahead of that. And it seemed like there have been some one-timers as well.

Speaker #4: You normally don't get into the volume side until you get into incentives and GSCs.

Speaker #1: So how should we put those pieces together?

Speaker #6: Good morning, Tracy. Can you hear us okay?

Speaker #5: Okay. And then on retail, on the organic, I think you guys said 50 to 100 basis point impact from the change in the revenue model over the next couple of quarters.

Speaker #1: Yes.

Speaker #6: Okay, perfect. Sorry, I didn't know if it was you breaking up or on our end. Based upon the performance in the first quarter, we are anticipating that our contingent commissions for the entire company will be up this year.

Tracy Benguigui: Okay. I wonder if you could provide a new outlook for contingents. Last quarter, you guided $15 million of less contingents in Specialty Distribution for the full year 2026, and you're trending so far ahead of that.

Speaker #5: But then you also guided to organic improving sequentially relative to the Q1. So I guess what's the offset that's driving the sequential improvement if you have a negative impact?

Speaker #6: We had an outstanding first quarter.

Speaker #1: Okay. Is there any direction you could provide for that?

J. Powell Brown: Hey, Tracy, you're breaking up. Yeah.

Speaker #5: Or was the model change, I guess, a similar magnitude in the Q1?

Speaker #6: Let's see. Well, last year, we were up I think we were about 255 million. I'm sorry. Hold on. Let me double-check here. We were, yeah, we were about 255 million last year.

Tracy Benguigui: Okay. I was wondering if you could provide an updated outlook on contingents.

Speaker #4: No, I think what we were trying to help everybody understand there is one, we know we've got some headwinds from this business as it goes through the revenue model change.

J. Powell Brown: Okay

Tracy Benguigui: ... you guided $15 million of less contingents within Specialty Distribution. I'm just wondering, given your Q1 performance so far, you're trending ahead of that, and it seemed like there have been some one-timers as well. How should we put those pieces together?

Tracy Benguigui: You guided $15 million of less contingents within Specialty Distribution. I'm just wondering, given your Q1 performance so far, you're trending ahead of that, and it seemed like there have been some one-timers as well. How should we put those pieces together?

Speaker #6: And obviously, we had really nice upside in the first quarter. So we would anticipate most of that continuing to flow through on a variance for the full year.

Speaker #4: But as we said, improving organic growth by the quarters and that is our expectation based upon the discussion on the change in our sales model and Topal's comment earlier about starting to see some of the initial activity levels improving.

Speaker #1: Okay. I guess part of that was you mentioned 30 million from favorable underwriting performance. But if we're in a soft market, shouldn't we see some of that margin abating?

J. Powell Brown: Good morning, Tracy. Can you hear us okay?

Tracy Benguigui: Yes.

J. Powell Brown: Okay, sorry, I didn't know if it was you breaking up or on our end. Based upon the performance in Q1, we are anticipating that our contingent commissions for the entire company will be up this year. We had an outstanding Q1.

Speaker #5: And then the guidance for retail and specialty distribution, the organic color, is that assumed similar property CAT rate declines over the course of the year?

Speaker #6: Yeah. So I think that's maybe one of the things worth us just clarifying real quickly because keep in mind in the specialty distribution space, at least for us, is that we calculate our contingents on a program-by-program basis.

Speaker #5: I know mixed impacts a little bit less property in the Q2, but are you assuming similar level of rate declines for the remainder of the year?

Tracy Benguigui: Okay. Is there any direction you could provide for that?

Speaker #6: They're not built upon overall industry profitability. And so some people have asked us about that in the past. In our prepared comments, we said that we substantially control all of the underwriting rigor and discipline and we believe that we run some of the most profitable programs in the industry for our carrier partners.

Speaker #4: So at least for the second quarter, we're anticipating that rates are definitely going to be under pressure like they were in the first quarter.

J. Powell Brown: Let's see. Well, last year we were up, I think we were about $255 million. Sorry, hold on, let me double-check here.

Speaker #4: And again, it won't surprise us if we see some unusual things towards the end of the quarter on rates. Remember what happened in June of last year right before storm season.

Andy: We were, yeah, we were about $255 million last year, and obviously we had really nice upside in Q1. We would anticipate most of that continuing to flow through on a variance for the full year.

R. Andrew Watts: We were, yeah, we were about $255 million last year, and obviously we had really nice upside in Q1. We would anticipate most of that continuing to flow through on a variance for the full year.

Speaker #4: So things could definitely move around. And then we don't place a lot of CAT property in the third quarter, Elise. The industry doesn't. They either.

Speaker #6: And deliver great products for our customers that are out there. And so we're very, very in tune with making sure that we maintain profitability.

Speaker #4: And then we won't see it until the back end of the year. We wouldn't opine on potentially what CAT property rates would look like for the fourth quarter right now because that'll be subject to storm season.

Tracy Benguigui: Okay. I guess part of that was you mentioned $30 million from favorable underwriting performance, if we're in a soft market, shouldn't we see some of that margin abating?

Speaker #1: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Elsie Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: I would just add, Elise, two things. One, remember Q2 is a heavy property quarter. And number two, that also doesn't assume if there was a wind event.

Andy: Yeah. I think that's maybe one of the things worth us just clarifying real quickly, 'cause, keep in mind, in the Specialty Distribution space, at least for us, is that, we calculate our contingents on a program-by-program basis. They're not built upon, you know, overall industry profitability, and so some people have asked us about that in the past. In our prepared comments-

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah. I think that's maybe one of the things worth us just clarifying real quickly, 'cause, keep in mind, in the Specialty Distribution space, at least for us, is that, we calculate our contingents on a program-by-program basis. They're not built upon, you know, overall industry profitability, and so some people have asked us about that in the past. In our prepared comments.

Speaker #7: Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question, if we look at your contingents over the past year, what percentage is volume-based versus profit-based? And would you expect the mix between the two to change over the course of the next year?

Speaker #4: So don't know if there would be a wind event, but if there's a wind event, that could change the dynamics and the pricing as well.

Speaker #5: Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Good morning, Elise. On the contingent commissions, almost all of those are based on profitability. There's a few of them that have a combination of volume and profit, but that's a pretty small percentage.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

J. Powell Brown: Mm-hmm

Andy: ... we said that, you know, we substantially control all of the underwriting rigor and discipline, and we believe that we run some of the most profitable programs in the industry for our carrier partners and deliver great products for our customers that are out there. We're very, very in tune with making sure that we maintain profitability.

R. Andrew Watts: ... we said that, you know, we substantially control all of the underwriting rigor and discipline, and we believe that we run some of the most profitable programs in the industry for our carrier partners and deliver great products for our customers that are out there. We're very, very in tune with making sure that we maintain profitability.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #5: Our next question comes from the line of Michael Zarimsky with BMO. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Hey, thanks. Good morning. First question, just any update on the litigation impact on the top line as we progress throughout the year? The number, the $10 million number was, I think, much lower, better than the consensus had.

Speaker #6: You normally don't get into the volume side until you get into incentives and GSCs.

Speaker #7: Okay. And then on retail, on the organic, I think you guys said 50 to 100 basis point impact from the change in the revenue model over the next couple of quarters.

Tracy Benguigui: Okay. Thank you.

Andy: Yeah, thank you.

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah, thank you.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Mike. Yeah, what we did, we provided just an update as to where the loss business is right now on it. So that's the 31 million.

Speaker #7: But then you also guided to organic improving sequentially relative to the Q1. So I guess what's the offset that's driving the sequential improvement if you have a negative impact?

Elyse Greenspan: Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question, if you look at your contingents over the past year, what percentage is volume-based versus profit-based? Would you expect the mix between the two to change over the course of the next year?

Speaker #4: We were previously at 23. I think maybe one area where potentially folks thought it would be different. When we reported the 23, we said that was an annualized number.

Speaker #7: Or was the model change, I guess, a similar magnitude in the Q1?

Speaker #4: It's not an anticipated that all of that was going to come out in the first quarter because of when X dates are throughout the year.

Andy: Good morning, Elyse. On the contingent commissions, almost all of those are based on profitability. There's a few of them that have a combination of volume and profit, but that's a pretty small percentage. You normally don't get into the volume side until you get into incentives and GSCs.

R. Andrew Watts: Good morning, Elyse. On the contingent commissions, almost all of those are based on profitability. There's a few of them that have a combination of volume and profit, but that's a pretty small percentage. You normally don't get into the volume side until you get into incentives and GSCs.

Speaker #6: No, I think what we were trying to help everybody understand there is one, we know we've got some headwinds from this business as it goes through the revenue model change.

Speaker #4: So we'll continue to see a quarterly impacts this year. And that's just going to be the delta between the 31 and the 10. Again, that number probably moves around a little bit, but that gives you an idea of how it would flow by the following quarters.

Speaker #6: But as we said, improving organic growth by the quarters and that is our expectation based upon the discussion on the change in our sales model and Topal's comment earlier about starting to see some of the initial activity levels improving.

Speaker #7: Okay, got it. I'm just—I guess I'm assuming, just given that you updated us on the 275 people that departed, that that number will grow.

Elyse Greenspan: Okay. Then, on Retail, on the organic, I think you guys said, 50 to 100 basis point impact from the change in the revenue model over the next 2 quarters, then you also guided to, organic, improving sequentially relative to the Q1. I guess, what's the offset that's driving, the sequential improvement if you have a negative impact? Was the model change, I guess, a similar magnitude in the Q1?

Speaker #7: And then the guidance for retail and specialty distribution, the organic color, is that assumed similar property CAT weight declines over the course of the year?

Speaker #7: So I think the consensus is embedding a very much higher number than 31. But got it. My follow-up, this might be an unfair question, but if we look at kind of Brown's organic growth, with contingents, by the way, versus peers, it is expected to be a bit lighter than it's historical relationship to peers.

Speaker #7: I know mixed impacts a little bit less property in the Q2, but are you assuming similar level of rate declines for the remainder of the year?

Speaker #6: So at least for the second quarter, we're anticipating that rates are definitely going to be under pressure like they were in the first quarter.

Speaker #6: And again, it won't surprise us if we see some unusual things towards the end of the quarter. On rates, remember what happened in June of last year right before storm season.

Andy: No, I think what we were trying to help everybody understand there is, one, we know we've got some headwinds from this business as it goes through the revenue model change, but as we said, improving organic growth by the quarters. That is, you know, our expectation based upon, you know, the discussion on the change in our sales model and, you know, Powell's comment earlier about starting to see some of the initial activity levels improving.

R. Andrew Watts: No, I think what we were trying to help everybody understand there is, one, we know we've got some headwinds from this business as it goes through the revenue model change, but as we said, improving organic growth by the quarters. That is, you know, our expectation based upon, you know, the discussion on the change in our sales model and, you know, Powell's comment earlier about starting to see some of the initial activity levels improving.

Speaker #7: So I guess my question is, if are there idiosyncratic things that are impacting Brown that we know of that under normal circumstances, you would have expected Brown's organic to be?

Speaker #6: So things could definitely move around. And then we don't place a lot of CAT property in the third quarter, Elise. The industry doesn't. They either.

Speaker #7: Just maybe a little bit better under current conditions. Or really, is it just more of an issue of Brown being a bit overweight property, and properties under a lot of pressure?

Speaker #6: And then we won't see it until the back end of the year. We wouldn't opine on potentially what CAT property rates would look like for the fourth quarter right now because that would be subject to storm season.

Elyse Greenspan: The guidance for Retail and Specialty Distribution, the organic color, does that assume similar property cat rate declines, over the course of the year? I know mix impacts a little bit less property in the Q2, but are you assuming similar level of rate declines for the remainder of the year?

Speaker #6: I would just add, Elise, two things. One, remember Q2 is a heavy property quarter. And number two, that also doesn't assume if there was a wind event.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #4: So Michael, I think it's a combination of a couple of things. So let's acknowledge several of the obvious things. One, we have a large acquisition where we're bringing people together.

Speaker #6: So don't know if there would be a wind event, but if there's a wind event, that could change the dynamics and the pricing as well.

Andy: At least for Q2, we're anticipating that rates are definitely gonna be under pressure like they were in Q1. Again, it won't surprise us if we see some unusual things towards the end of the quarter on rates. Remember what happened in June of last year right before storm season. Things could definitely move around. Then we don't place a lot of catastrophe property in Q3, Elyse. The industry doesn't either. Then we won't see it until the back end of the year. We wouldn't opine on potentially what catastrophe property rates would look like for Q4 right now, 'cause that'll be subject to storm season.

R. Andrew Watts: At least for Q2, we're anticipating that rates are definitely gonna be under pressure like they were in Q1. Again, it won't surprise us if we see some unusual things towards the end of the quarter on rates. Remember what happened in June of last year right before storm season. Things could definitely move around. Then we don't place a lot of catastrophe property in Q3, Elyse. The industry doesn't either. Then we won't see it until the back end of the year. We wouldn't opine on potentially what catastrophe property rates would look like for Q4 right now, 'cause that'll be subject to storm season.

Speaker #7: Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Two, we've had the issue or disruption around the startup. Three, property rates are down more than we anticipated, although we thought property rates were going to go down substantially.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Zaremski with BMO. Your line is open.

Speaker #8: Hey, thanks. Good morning. First question, just any update on the litigation impact on the top line as we progress throughout the year? The number, the $10 million number was, I think, much lower, better than the consensus had.

Speaker #4: And we've been saying to you all that this is a year later than we anticipated. And finally, it's the situation in this pharmacy business.

Speaker #4: So, I've put those four things in there. Those are not excuses; those are just some observations. And we are very pleased with the team; we're very pleased with the capabilities that we've brought together.

Speaker #8: Thanks.

Speaker #6: Good morning, Mike. Yeah, what we did, we provided just an update as to where the loss business is right now on it. So that's the 31 million.

J. Powell Brown: I would just add at least 2 things. One, remember Q2 is a heavy property quarter.

Andy: Exactly.

R. Andrew Watts: Exactly.

J. Powell Brown: Number two, that also doesn't assume if there was a wind event.

Speaker #6: We were previously at 23. I think maybe one area where potentially folks thought it would be different. When we reported the 23, we said that was an annualized number.

Speaker #4: And how we're going to market. But at the end of the day, we are at the present time slightly lower than the peers.

Andy: Mm.

J. Powell Brown: Don't know if there would be a wind event, but if there's a wind event, that could change the dynamics and the pricing as well.

Speaker #6: It's not an anticipated that all of that was going to come out in the first quarter because of when X dates are throughout the year.

Elyse Greenspan: Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #8: And then Mike, keep in mind that in especially distribution, prior to the acquisition of a session, with is that we did have a higher weighting to CAT property in that business because of the programs that we operate there, right?

Operator: Thank you.

Andy: Thank you.

R. Andrew Watts: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Michael Zaremski with BMO. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: So we'll continue to see a quarterly impacts this year. And that's just going to be the delta between the 31 and the 10. Again, that number probably move around a little bit, but that gives you an idea of how it would flow by the following quarters.

Michael Zaremski: Hey, thanks. Good morning. First question, any update on the litigation impact on the top line as we progress throughout the year? The number, the $10 million number was, I think, much lower, better than the consensus had. Thanks.

Speaker #8: Okay. Got it. I'm just, I guess, I'm assuming just given that you updated us on the 275 people that departed, that that number will grow.

Speaker #8: So when capacity was tight a few years ago and rates were tight, that definitely helped drive growth for the overall business. With the addition of 180, as we mentioned in our commentary, that is much more weighted towards casualty, very little CAT property in there.

Andy: Good morning, Mike. Yeah, the, what we did, we provided a just an update as to where the lost business is right now on it. That's the $31 million. We were previously at $23. I think maybe one area where potentially folks thought it would be different, when we reported the $23, we said that was an annualized number. It's not anticipated that all that was gonna come out in Q1 because of when, you know, ex-dates are throughout the year. We'll continue to see quarterly impacts this year. That's just gonna be the delta between the $31 million and the $10. Again, that number might move around a little bit, but that gives you an idea of how it would flow by the following quarters.

R. Andrew Watts: Good morning, Mike. Yeah, the, what we did, we provided a just an update as to where the lost business is right now on it. That's the $31 million. We were previously at $23. I think maybe one area where potentially folks thought it would be different, when we reported the $23, we said that was an annualized number. It's not anticipated that all that was gonna come out in Q1 because of when, you know, ex-dates are throughout the year. We'll continue to see quarterly impacts this year. That's just gonna be the delta between the $31 million and the $10. Again, that number might move around a little bit, but that gives you an idea of how it would flow by the following quarters.

Speaker #8: So I think the consensus is embedding a very much higher number than 31. But got it. My follow-up, this might be an unfair question, but if we look at kind of Browns organic growth, with contingents, by the way, versus peers, it is expected to be a bit lighter than it's historical relationship to peers.

Speaker #8: So that will probably over time you'll see that'll start to level out some of the peaks and valleys in that business. And again, it's just something that we try to focus on as an organization of the more diversification that we can put across the company, more stability we can have in our revenues, our margins, our cash flow.

Speaker #8: So I guess my question is, if other idiosyncratic things that are impacting Brown that we know of that under normal circumstances, you would have expected Browns organic to be just maybe a little bit better, under current conditions, or really, is it just more of an issue of Brown being a bit overweight property and properties under a lot of pressure?

Speaker #7: Helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Please stand back for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #9: Yeah, thank you. Good morning. On the organic growth, you’ve talked about sequential improvement last quarter. You talked about getting to a point for the full year where you’re ahead of 2025, with a weighting towards the back half of the year.

Michael Zaremski: Okay, got it. I'm just, you know, I guess, I'm assuming just given that, you know, you updated us on the 275 people that departed, that that number will grow. I think the consensus is embedding a very much higher number than 31. Got it. My follow-up, this might be an unfair question, but, you know, if we look at kind of Brown's organic growth with contingents, by the way, versus peers, you know, it's, it is expected to be a bit lighter than its historical relationship to peers. I guess my question is, you know, if.

Speaker #8: Thanks.

Speaker #9: Is that still what we should anticipate or just assume sequential improvement? But not to reach or exceed last year.

Speaker #6: So Michael, I think it's a combination of a couple of things. So let's acknowledge several of the obvious things. One, we have a large acquisition where we're bringing people together.

Speaker #8: Yeah. Good morning, Mark. Probably think about it from a sequential increase over the quarters, knowing that some quarters will be higher, some quarters will be down because it always obviously moves around back and forth.

Speaker #6: Two, we've had the issue or disruption around the startup. Three, property rates are down more than we anticipated, although we thought property rates were going to go down substantially and we've been saying to you all that this is a year later than we anticipated.

Speaker #8: But when we look into kind of the back end of the year, we think organic growth rates would should be higher than the first quarter.

Michael Zaremski: Are there idiosyncratic things that are impacting Brown that we know of that, you know, under, you know, normal circumstances you would have expected Brown's organic to be just maybe a little bit better under current conditions? Really is it just more of an issue of Brown being a bit overweight property and properties under a lot of pressure? Thanks.

Speaker #8: But probably an upper bound of two and a half, somewhere in that ballpark. And you're just going to—some quarters are going to move around, as they always do for us.

Speaker #6: And finally, it's the situation in this pharmacy business. So I put those four things in there. Those are not excuses. Those are just some observations.

Speaker #8: But we feel really good about, at least when we look at the activity and the structure of the organization, having the 180 business coming into organic and specialty distribution in the back end of the year.

Speaker #6: And we are very pleased with the team; we're very pleased with the capabilities that we brought together and how we're going to market. But at the end of the day, we are at the present time slightly lower than the peers.

J. Powell Brown: Michael, I think it's a combination of a couple things. Let's acknowledge several of the obvious things. One, we have a large acquisition where we're bringing people together. Two, we've had the issue or disruption around the startup. Three, property rates are down more than we anticipated, although we thought property rates were going to go down substantially. We've been saying to you all that this is a year later than we anticipated. Finally, it's the situation in this pharmacy business. I'd put those four things in there. Those are not excuses, those are just an observation. We are very pleased with the team. We're very pleased with the capabilities that we've brought together and how we're going to market.

Speaker #8: At least everything gives us good confidence as to the direction that it's going.

Speaker #9: Very good. And then just the how's an issue again, the you initially called out 23 million and then that increase modestly, let's say, to 31 million.

Speaker #9: And then Mike, keep in mind that in especially distribution, prior to the acquisition of a session, with is that we did have a higher weighting to CAT property in that business because of the programs that we operate there, right?

Speaker #9: When these sort of things happen, as the pace of the potential losses slows, it's as time goes by. So, the sequential increase in Q2 would be less than Q1, perhaps.

Speaker #8: Yeah. Maybe mark a couple of things. Keep in mind, and I'm sure a number of folks have seen this, but we have a quite expansive TRO that was issued in Massachusetts back at the end of December, right?

Speaker #9: So when capacity was tight a few years ago and rates were tight, that definitely helped drive growth for the overall business. With the addition of 180, as we mentioned in our commentary, that is much more weighted towards casualty, very little CAT property in there.

Speaker #8: And that has very, very tight restrictions. That TRO is still in place today, with all of it. And so I think just keep that in mind around, I guess, how you're thinking about potentially the outlook.

Speaker #9: So that will probably over time you'll see that'll start to level out some of the peaks and valleys in that business. And again, it's just something that we try to focus on as an organization of the more diversification that we can put across the company, more stability we can have in our revenues, our margins, and our cash flow.

J. Powell Brown: At the end of the day, we are, at the present time, slightly lower than the peers.

Speaker #8: Doesn't mean that the number might not change back and forth. But.

Andy: Mike, keep in mind that in, you know, Specialty Distribution prior to the acquisition of Accession, with, is that we did have a higher weighting to cap property in that business because of the programs that we operate there, right? When capacity was tight a few years ago and rates were tight, that definitely helped drive growth for the overall business. With the addition of One80, as we mentioned in our commentary, that is much more weighted towards casualty, very little cap property in there. That will probably, over time, you'll see that'll start to level out some of the peaks and valleys in that business.

R. Andrew Watts: Mike, keep in mind that in, you know, Specialty Distribution prior to the acquisition of Accession, with, is that we did have a higher weighting to cap property in that business because of the programs that we operate there, right? When capacity was tight a few years ago and rates were tight, that definitely helped drive growth for the overall business. With the addition of One80, as we mentioned in our commentary, that is much more weighted towards casualty, very little cap property in there. That will probably, over time, you'll see that'll start to level out some of the peaks and valleys in that business.

Speaker #9: So you're saying the, I guess you're talking restraining order you're seeing that it's ahead of impact. You saw the slowdown and lost business in 1Q and so therefore maybe the build from here is decelerating, so to speak?

Speaker #8: Helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #10: Yeah. Thank you. Good morning. On the organic growth you've talked about sequential improvement last quarter, you talked about getting to a point for the full year where you're ahead of 2025 with a weighting towards the back half of the year.

Speaker #8: So Mark, we don't, as you know, typically talk about ongoing litigation and there is more going on, not just in that state. And so obviously there are certain things that are filed that you all can look at and you can see what has been the judge has come forward with and in other states when and if that happens.

Speaker #10: Is that still what we should anticipate or just assume sequential improvement? But not to reach or exceed last year.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Good morning, Mark. Probably think about it from a sequential increase over the quarters, knowing that some quarters will be higher, some quarters will be down because it always obviously moves around back and forth.

Speaker #8: But we really can't get into it, so I'd rather just not say any more.

Andy: Again, it's just something that we try to focus on as an organization of the more diversification that we can put across the company, more stability we can have in our revenues, our margins, and our cash flow.

R. Andrew Watts: Again, it's just something that we try to focus on as an organization of the more diversification that we can put across the company, more stability we can have in our revenues, our margins, and our cash flow.

Speaker #9: Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Hung with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: But when we look into kind of the back end of the year, we think organic growth rates would should be higher than the first quarter, but probably an upper bound of two and a half, somewhere in that ballpark.

Michael Zaremski: Wonderful. Thank you.

Andy: Great. Thank you.

R. Andrew Watts: Great. Thank you.

Operator: Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #10: Hi. Good morning. So my first question I want to shift gears a little bit towards employee benefit business. You talked about the fairly solid pricing environment in employee benefit right now.

Speaker #6: And you're just going to some quarter is going to move around as they always do for us. But we feel really good about at least when we look at the activity and the structure of the organization, having the 180 business coming into organic and specialty distribution in the back end of the year.

Mark Hughes: Yeah, thank you. Good morning. On the organic growth.

Andy: Morning

R. Andrew Watts: Morning

Mark Hughes: You've talked about sequential improvement. Last quarter, you talked about getting to a point for the full year where you're ahead of 2025 with a weighting towards the H2. Is that still what we should anticipate or just assume sequential improvement, but not to reach or exceed last year?

Speaker #10: Can you maybe give us a little bit more color in terms of how you think about the employee benefit business will evolve towards the rest of the year? And then, curious how you think about the growth there as a contributor going forward?

Speaker #6: At least everything gives us good confidence as to the direction that it's going.

Speaker #4: So, I just want to make sure that I heard the second part. I heard about the growth going forward. Bob, can you repeat that first part of the question?

Andy: Yeah. Good morning, Mark. Think probably think about it from a, you know, sequential, you know, increase over the quarters, knowing that some quarters will be higher, some quarters will be, you know, down 'cause it always obviously moves around back and forth. We, when we look into kind of the back end of the year, we think organic growth rates would should be higher than the first quarter, but, you know, probably an upper bound of 2.5, somewhere in that ballpark, and you're just gonna some quarters are gonna move around as they always do for us. We feel really good about at least when we look at the activity and the structure of the organization having the One80 business coming into organic and Specialty Distribution in the back end of the year.

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah. Good morning, Mark. Think probably think about it from a, you know, sequential, you know, increase over the quarters, knowing that some quarters will be higher, some quarters will be, you know, down 'cause it always obviously moves around back and forth. We, when we look into kind of the back end of the year, we think organic growth rates would should be higher than the first quarter, but, you know, probably an upper bound of 2.5, somewhere in that ballpark, and you're just gonna some quarters are gonna move around as they always do for us. We feel really good about at least when we look at the activity and the structure of the organization having the One80 business coming into organic and Specialty Distribution in the back end of the year.

Speaker #10: Very good. And then just the housing issue again, the you initially called out 23 million and then that increase modestly, let's say, to 31 million.

Speaker #10: Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Yeah. So I just want to ask about a little bit more detail around the employee benefit pricing—it's been strong based on your disclosures. Just curious about how you think about the employee benefit business going into the rest of the year and going forward, and how that becomes a contributor.

Speaker #10: When these sort of things happen, as the pace of the potential losses slow, as time goes by. So the sequential increase in Q2 would be less than 1Q perhaps.

Speaker #10: Yeah.

Speaker #4: Perfect. Thank you. I just wanted to—I thought that's what you said. Number one, we like the employee benefits business very much, and we think that it is an opportunity for us to continue to solve what I'd call complex problems for our customers.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Maybe mark a couple of things. Keep in mind, and I'm sure a number of folks have seen this, but we have a quite expansive TRO that was issued in Massachusetts back at the end of December, right?

Speaker #4: That said, the pricing pressure continues to be challenged on any buyer of health insurance. And so everybody we talk to is looking for ways to firms like Ben, the cost curve, or moderate, or what could they do?

Speaker #6: And that has very, very tight restrictions that TRO is still in place today. With all of it. And so I think just keep that in mind around, I guess, how you're thinking about potentially the outlook.

Andy: At least everything gives us, you know, good confidence as to the direction that it's going.

R. Andrew Watts: At least everything gives us, you know, good confidence as to the direction that it's going.

Mark Hughes: Very good. Then, just this, the housing issue again, the. You initially called out $23 million, then that increased modestly, let's say, to $31 million. When these sort of things happen, does the pace of the potential losses slow as time goes by? The sequential increase in

Speaker #4: And some will even consider skinnying down the benefits that their employees are receiving. But we continue to find lots of opportunities for us to help our customers with what is a very complex, expensive, coverage that is utilized on a frequent basis.

Speaker #6: Doesn't mean that the number might not change back and forth, but.

Speaker #10: So you're saying the I guess you're talking restraining order you're seeing that it's had an impact you saw the slowdown and lost business in 1Q and so therefore maybe the build from here is decelerating, so to speak?

Andy: Yeah

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah

Mark Hughes: 2Q would be less than 1Q perhaps?

Speaker #4: So we view it as a positive we continue to invest in it. We have a lot of very talented teammates in it. It's a big part of our retail business and is going to be bigger going forward.

Andy: Yeah. Maybe Mark, a couple things to keep in mind, and I'm sure a number of folks have seen this, but, you know, we have a quite expansive TRO-

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah. Maybe Mark, a couple things to keep in mind, and I'm sure a number of folks have seen this, but, you know, we have a quite expansive TRO-

Speaker #6: So Mark, we don't as you know, typically talk about ongoing litigation and there is more going on, not just in that state. And so obviously there are certain things that are filed that you all can look at and you can see what has been the judge has come forward with and in other states when and if that happens.

Speaker #10: Okay, no, that's helpful. Thank you. My second question really revolves around your AI commentaries—about the capabilities that you're adding onto the platform, right?

J. Powell Brown: That was issued in Massachusetts back at the end of December, right? That has very tight restrictions. That TRO is still in place today with all of it. I think just keep that in mind around, I guess, how you're thinking about potentially the outlook. Doesn't mean that the number might not change back and forth, but.

Speaker #10: It's more of a buy versus build question. As you're investing in AI, I'm just curious about your philosophy around acquiring AI capabilities from third-party vendors versus what are the things that you feel it is necessary to kind of maybe develop internally from a code-based perspective?

Speaker #6: But we really can't get into it. So I'd rather just not say anymore.

Speaker #10: Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Speaker #10: Just curious your thoughts on that.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Hung with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Mark Hughes: You're saying, I guess you're talking restraining order, you're seeing that it's had an impact.

Speaker #4: Sure. So I think there's really two ways to approach AI in a very broad sense. You can do it internally, and that's typically where you're nibbling around the sides.

J. Powell Brown: Yes.

Mark Hughes: You saw the slowdown in lost business in Q1, therefore maybe the build from here is decelerating sort of thing?

Speaker #11: Hi. Good morning. So my first question, I want to shift gears a little bit towards employee benefit business. You talked about the fairly solid pricing environment in employee benefit right now.

Speaker #4: And it takes longer, typically. But it's probably overall less expensive conversely, you decide to partner with some firms that can help you accelerate and make big jumps forward.

J. Powell Brown: So Mark, we don't, as you know, typically talk about ongoing litigation. There is more going on, not just in that state. Obviously there are certain things that are filed that you all can look at, you can see, what has been, you know, the judge has come forward with in other states when and if that happens. But we really can't get into it. I'd rather just, you know, not say any more.

Speaker #11: Can you maybe give us a little bit more color in terms of how you think about the employee benefit business will evolve towards the rest of the year and then curious how you think about the growth there as a contributor going forward?

Speaker #6: So I just want to make sure that I heard the second part. I heard about the growth going forward. What would Bob, can you repeat that first part of that question?

Speaker #4: And I believe that we actually or at least to this point, but going forward, I believe we will do both. And so we are not at a point where we're going to discuss who those people are, but the answer is we look at it as sort of a combination and depending on what we're trying to achieve, we'll dictate what portion of the business and what we're trying to achieve would probably dictate which way we lean into.

Speaker #11: Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Yeah. So I just want to ask about a little bit more details around the employee benefit pricing has been strong based on your disclosures.

Mark Hughes: Okay, very good. Thank you.

J. Powell Brown: Mm-hmm.

Speaker #11: Just curious about how you think about the employee benefit business going into the rest of the year going forward and how that becomes a contributor.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Huang with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker #11: Yeah.

Speaker #6: Perfect. Thank you. I just wanted to I thought that's what you said. Number one, we like the employee benefits business very much. And we think that it is an opportunity for us to continue to solve what I call complex problems for our customers.

Bob Huang: Hi, good morning. My first question, I want to shift gears a little bit towards employee benefit business. You talked about the fairly solid pricing environment in employee benefit right now. Can you maybe give us, like, a little bit more color in terms of how you think about the employee benefit business will evolve for towards the rest of the year? Curious how you think about the growth there as a contributor going forward.

Speaker #10: Okay, really appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker #8: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from the line of Josh Shanker with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: That said, the pricing pressure continues to be challenged on any buyer of health insurance. And so everybody we talk to is looking for ways to firms like Ben, the cost curve, or moderate, or what could they do?

Speaker #11: Yeah. Good evening, everybody. Or good morning. It's been a long day. My first question, in the business has evolved a lot, but you're still a big Florida participant.

J. Powell Brown: I just want to make sure that I heard the second part. I heard about the growth going forward. Bob, can you repeat that, the first part of that question?

Speaker #11: Can you talk about your pricing? How much Florida is impacting those numbers and the extent to which there's a variance between your experience in Florida on pricing and your experience nationwide?

J. Powell Brown: I just want to make sure that I heard the second part. I heard about the growth going forward. Bob, can you repeat that, the first part of that question?

Speaker #6: And some will even consider skinnying down the benefits that their employees are receiving. But we continue to find lots of opportunities for us to help our customers with what is a very complex, expensive, coverage that is utilized on a frequent basis.

Bob Huang: Yeah. Yes, sure. Yeah, I just want to ask about a little bit of more details around employee benefit. Pricing has been strong based on your disclosures. Just curious about how you think about the employee benefit business going into the rest of the year going forward?

Speaker #4: So let me take the second part of the question first. First of all, as a Josh, as a point of reference, the rates that we're seeing in coastal property today are similar to those that we saw in 2016 and '17.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah

Bob Huang: how that becomes a contributor.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. I just wanted. I thought that's what you said. Number 1, we like the employee benefits business very much, we think that it is an opportunity for us to continue to solve what I'd call complex problems for our customers. That said, the pricing pressure continues to be a challenge on any buyer of health insurance. Everybody we talk to is looking for ways to, you know, terms like bend the cost curve or moderate or what could they do, and some will even consider skinnying down the benefits that their employees are receiving. We continue to find lots of opportunities for us to help our customers with what is a very complex, expensive coverage that is utilized on a frequent basis. We view it as a positive. We continue to invest in it.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. I just wanted. I thought that's what you said. Number 1, we like the employee benefits business very much, we think that it is an opportunity for us to continue to solve what I'd call complex problems for our customers. That said, the pricing pressure continues to be a challenge on any buyer of health insurance. Everybody we talk to is looking for ways to, you know, terms like bend the cost curve or moderate or what could they do, and some will even consider skinnying down the benefits that their employees are receiving. We continue to fi`nd lots of opportunities for us to help our customers with what is a very complex, expensive coverage that is utilized on a frequent basis. We view it as a positive. We continue to invest in it.

Speaker #6: So we view it as a positive we continue to invest in it. We have a lot of very talented teammates in it. It's a big part of our retail business and is going to be bigger going forward.

Speaker #4: So, I want you to think about that for just a moment. I don't remember exactly the year it started going up, but let's say it was '18 or '19, and then it went up for five or six years, and then it is reduced— all of that— in a two-year period, let's say.

Speaker #11: Okay. No, that's helpful. Thank you. My second question really revolves around your AI commentaries. About the capabilities that you're adding onto the platform, right?

Speaker #11: It's more of a buy versus build question. As you're investing in AI, just curious your philosophy around acquiring AI capabilities from third-party vendors versus what are the things that you feel it is necessary to kind of maybe develop internally from a code-based perspective?

Speaker #4: That's the first thing. The second thing is, impacts on the pricing are not limited to Florida. You have it also in other cat-prone areas where they're seeing substantial decreases.

Speaker #11: Just curious your thoughts on that.

Speaker #6: Sure. So I think there's really two ways to approach AI in a very broad sense. You can do it internally and that's typically where you're nibbling around the sides and it takes longer, typically.

Speaker #4: The third thing is we are seeing in places around the country which might be defined as cap I'm talking inland cap. Convective storms we're seeing more downward pressure there in pricing than the traditional down 5 to up 5.

J. Powell Brown: We have a lot of very talented teammates in it. It's a big part of our Retail business and is going to be bigger going forward.

Speaker #6: But it's probably overall less expensive conversely, you decide to partner with some firms that can help you accelerate and make big jumps forward. And I believe that we actually or at least to this point, but going forward, I believe we will do both.

Bob Huang: Okay. No, that's helpful. Thank you. My second question really revolves around your AI commentaries about the capabilities that you're adding onto the platform, right? It's more of a buy versus build question. As you're investing in AI, just curious your philosophy around acquiring AI capabilities from third-party vendors versus what are the things that you feel it is necessary to kind of maybe develop internally from a code-based perspective. Just curious your thoughts on that.

Speaker #4: So from a standpoint of the property thing and by the way, we haven't been surprised that property is under pressure. We have been surprised at the decrease in the amount of decrease that is occurred.

Speaker #4: So let me give you an example. If you tell me that you have a condominium in Southeast Florida, and it's a superior construction, and the rate is below 20 cents, I would tell you that of that 20 cents, 7 to 8 cents of that is the fire rate.

Speaker #6: And so we are not at a point where we're going to discuss who those people are, but the answer is we look at it as sort of a combination and depending on what we're trying to achieve, we'll dictate what portion of the business and what we're trying to achieve would probably dictate which way we lean into.

J. Powell Brown: Sure. I think there's really two ways to approach AI in a very broad sense. You can do it internally, and that's typically where you're nibbling around the sides. It takes longer typically, but it's probably overall less expensive. Conversely, you decide to partner with some firms that can help you accelerate and make big, you know, jumps forward. I believe that we actually, or at least to this point, but going forward, I believe we will do both. We are not at a point where we're gonna discuss who those people are, but the answer is we look at it as sort of a combination, and depending on what we're trying to achieve, will dictate, you know, what portion of the business and what we're trying to achieve would probably dictate which way we lean into.

Speaker #11: Okay. Really appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Even though it's in a superior construction building. So that means the rest is all other perils, including wind. That's pretty unbelievable. Did you want to address that?

Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of Josh Shanker with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker #12: Yeah. Good evening, everybody. Or good morning. It's been a long day. My first question, in the business has evolved a lot, but you're still a big Florida participant.

Speaker #4: Can you hear us?

Speaker #12: Can you talk about your pricing? How much Florida is impacting those numbers and the extent to which there's a variance between your experience in Florida on pricing and your experience nationwide?

Speaker #11: Hello? Hello there? Yeah. We're here. Can you hear us? Josh, are you there?

Speaker #8: Yes, sir.

Speaker #11: Oh, yeah. And then all right. So in casualty, you're not seeing any difference in the Florida market versus the rest of the country?

Speaker #6: So let me take the second part of the question first. First of all, as a Josh, as a point of reference, the rates that we're seeing in coastal property today are similar to those that we saw in 2016 and '17.

Speaker #8: Not so much.

Speaker #11: Yeah.

Speaker #10: No. And one other question.

Speaker #4: I'm surprised, I guess, on this closer that $25,000 and under is only 1 to 2 percent of your business. I mean, a $25,000 property policy—that's a pretty juicy policy.

Speaker #4: Can you talk a little about the industry and I mean, you don't have to talk about your competitors, but who's going after that policy if not Brown & Brown?

Bob Huang: Okay. Really appreciate it. Thank you.

J. Powell Brown: Mm-hmm. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Shanker with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Josh Shanker with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker #8: Well, like I said, there are lots of independent agents in the United States that write lots of, defined as, small accounts. So again, from a standpoint of—and they have people that actively service, I mean, actively go out and solicit them.

Speaker #6: So I want you to think about that for just a moment. So I don't remember exactly the year it started going up, but let's say it was '18 or '19 and then it went up for five or six years.

Joshua Shanker: Yeah. Good evening, everybody, or good morning. It's been a long day. My first question, you know, and the business has evolved a lot, but you're still a big Florida participant. Can you talk about your pricing, how much Florida is impacting those numbers and the extent to which there's a variance between your experience in Florida on pricing, your experience nationwide?

Josh Shanker: Yeah. Good evening, everybody, or good morning. It's been a long day. My first question, you know, and the business has evolved a lot, but you're still a big Florida participant. Can you talk about your pricing, how much Florida is impacting those numbers and the extent to which there's a variance between your experience in Florida on pricing, your experience nationwide?

Speaker #6: And then it has reduced all of that in a two-year period, let's say. That's the first thing. The second thing is impacts on the pricing is not limited to Florida.

Speaker #8: And what we're saying is typically our producers are going after accounts that are in excess of that. That's just the way I'd want you to think about it.

Speaker #6: You have it also in other Cap Crown areas where they're seeing substantial decreases. Third thing is we are seeing in places around the country, which might be defined as CAT, I'm talking inland CAT, convective storms we're seeing more downward pressure there in pricing than the traditional down 5 to up 5.

J. Powell Brown: Let me, let me take the second part of the question first. First of all, Josh, as a point of reference, the rates that we're seeing in coastal property today are similar to those that we saw in 2016 and 2017. I want you to think about that for just a moment. I don't remember exactly the year it started going up, but let's say it was 2018 or 2019, and then it went up for 5 or 6 years, and then it is, it has reduced all of that in a 2-year period, let's say. That's the first thing. The second thing is impacts on the pricing is not limited to Florida. You have it also in other cat-prone areas where they're seeing substantial decreases.

Speaker #11: All right. Well, there's also there might be an opportunity there, I guess, maybe. Who

Speaker #8: Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Josh. Yeah. Yeah. We got to keep rolling. We got a bunch of people in the queue here. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from the line of Alex Scott with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker #12: Hi. Good morning. For the first one, I wanted to ask you about margins. Over time, it's been somewhat linked to organic growth and the ability to get margin improvement is a lot better when you're growing.

Speaker #6: So from a standpoint of the property thing and by the way, we haven't been surprised that property is under pressure. We have been surprised at the decrease in the amount of decrease that has occurred.

Speaker #12: Just based on what you're seeing with the potential of AI, does it change the amount of growth that's needed to still get that margin improvement?

Speaker #12: Can you talk a bit about how you're thinking through that over the next few years if we do stay in a softer market here?

Speaker #6: So let me give you an example. If you tell me that you have a condominium in Southeast Florida and it's a superior construction and the rate is below 20 cents, I would tell you that of that 20 cents, 7 to 8 cents of that is the fire rate.

Speaker #8: Sure. And remember, I think the important thing, Alex, is this: we think that there are opportunities to invest in talented people to help us grow our business going forward.

J. Powell Brown: Third thing is we are seeing in places around the country, which might be defined as cat, I'm talking inland cat and convective storms, we're seeing more downward pressure there in pricing than the traditional down 5 to 5. From a standpoint of the property thing, and by the way, we haven't been surprised that property is under pressure. We have been surprised at the decrease and the amount of decrease that has occurred. Let me give you an example. If you tell me that you have a condominium in Southeast Florida, and it's a superior construction and the rate is below $0.20, I would tell you that of that $0.20, $0.07 to $0.08 of that is the fire rate, even though it's in a superior construction building.

Speaker #8: So you can actually underinvest go up. And that's not how we look at it. And so we've said I know there are other brokers that say you got to have X amount of organic growth in order to have margins go up.

Speaker #6: Even though it's in a superior construction building. So that means the rest is all other perils including wind. That's pretty unbelievable. Did you want to address that?

Speaker #8: We actually would say, depending on the quarter or the time period, that's different with us. But I want to clarify that we are actively looking to continue to invest with high-quality people to help us deliver solutions for our customers.

Speaker #6: Can you hear us?

Speaker #12: Hello? Hello there? Yeah. We're here. Can you hear us? Yes, sir.

Speaker #8: That said, is there is absolutely a positive impact from AI and the potential of that going forward. And then Alex, and the other reason why we included the additional performance metric of our organic with contingents is that's another really good metric in order to have a correlation down to margins and EPS.

Speaker #6: Okay. And then all right. So in casualty, you're not seeing any difference in the Florida market versus the rest of the country?

Speaker #12: Not so much.

Speaker #6: Yeah.

Speaker #12: No. And one other question.

Speaker #6: I'm surprised, I guess, on this closure that 25,000 and under is only 1 to 2 percent of your business. I mean, at 25,000-dollar property policy, that's a pretty juicy policy.

Speaker #6: Can you talk a little about the industry and I mean, you don't have to talk about your competitors, but who's going after that policy if not Brown & Brown?

Speaker #8: Because I think in the past, people have said, "Well, wait a minute. How can your margins go up if your organic goes down or vice versa?" Because the contingents, because they're a core part of our model, can move the margins around in quarters, okay?

Speaker #6: Well, like I said, there are lots of independent agents in the United States that write lots of business that would be defined as small accounts.

J. Powell Brown: That means the rest is all other perils, including wind. That's pretty unbelievable. Did you want to address that? Can you hear us?

Speaker #6: So again, from a standpoint of and they have people that actively service I mean, actively go out and solicit them. And what we're saying is typically our producers are going after accounts that are in excess of that.

Joshua Shanker: Hello? Hello there.

Josh Shanker: Hello? Hello there.

Speaker #12: Yep, got all that. Thank you. Next one I have for you is on the revenue opportunities you see from AI. I mean, I think you got into it some with Josh there.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah.

Andy: Yeah, we're here.

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah, we're here.

J. Powell Brown: Can you hear us?

Andy: Yeah. She's there, sir.

R. Andrew Watts: Yeah. She's there, sir.

J. Powell Brown: Okay.

Joshua Shanker: All right. In casualty, you're not seeing any difference in the Florida market versus the rest of the country?

Josh Shanker: All right. In casualty, you're not seeing any difference in the Florida market versus the rest of the country?

Speaker #12: But I mean, is it about specializing? Is it about going down market? And then, can you elaborate on any investments that are more concrete that we can think through on how you're advancing towards some of that?

Speaker #6: That's just the way I'd want you to think about it.

J. Powell Brown: Not so much, no.

Speaker #12: All right. Well, there might be an opportunity there, I guess, maybe. Who knows? Okay.

Joshua Shanker: No. And one other question. You know, I'm surprised, I guess, on this closure, that 25,000 and under is only 1% to 2% of your business. I mean, a $25,000 property policy, that's a pretty juicy policy. Can you talk a little about the industry? I mean, you don't have to talk about your competitors, but who's going after that policy, if not Brown & Brown?

Josh Shanker: No. And one other question. You know, I'm surprised, I guess, on this closure, that 25,000 and under is only 1% to 2% of your business. I mean, a $25,000 property policy, that's a pretty juicy policy. Can you talk a little about the industry? I mean, you don't have to talk about your competitors, but who's going after that policy, if not Brown & Brown?

Speaker #6: Thanks, Josh. Yeah. Yeah. We got to keep rolling. We got a bunch of people in the queue here. Thank you.

Speaker #8: So like I said, we tried to give you a good peek in the box on the three examples that we've used. I believe that and we will talk more about that in the future.

Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of Alex Scott with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker #12: All right. Good morning. So the first one I wanted to ask you about margins. Over time, it's been somewhat linked to organic growth and the ability to get margin improvement is a lot better when you're growing.

J. Powell Brown: Well, and like I said, there are lots of independent agents in the United States that write lots of business that would be defined as small accounts. Again, from a standpoint of, they have people that actively service, I mean, actively go out and solicit them. What we are saying is typically our producers are going after accounts that are in excess of that. That's just the way I want you to think about it.

Speaker #8: But if you think about it, there are lots of people that think about it in the mid and back office efficiency, we don't view AI as a teammate replacement tool.

Speaker #12: Just based on what you're seeing, with the potential of AI, does it change the amount of growth that's needed to still get that margin improvement?

Speaker #8: That's number one. Number two, we absolutely believe it improves the customer experience. And we talked a little bit about that as it relates to 25% of the stuff in specialty distribution going through and routing, which makes us more efficient.

Speaker #12: Can you talk a bit about how you're thinking through that over the next few years if we do stay in a softer market here?

Speaker #6: Sure. And remember, I think the important thing, Alex, is this. We think that there are opportunities to invest in talented people to help us grow our business going forward.

Speaker #8: And then number three, it helps us identify growth opportunities with new or existing customers. And so what I would say is that's we've kind of laid out what we want to talk about today.

Joshua Shanker: All right. Well, there might be an opportunity there, I guess. Maybe. Who knows?

Josh Shanker: All right. Well, there might be an opportunity there, I guess. Maybe. Who knows?

J. Powell Brown: Yeah.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Josh.

Speaker #6: So you can actually under-invest and margins could stay flat or go up. And that's not how we look at it. And so we've said I know there are other brokers that say you got to have X amount of organic growth in order to have margins go up.

Joshua Shanker: Okay. Thanks, Josh.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah. Yeah. We gotta keep rolling. We got a bunch of people in the queue here. Thank you.

Speaker #8: And as we move further into the year, we'll bring more information to you on that. But we feel positive about our steps we've put in place in terms of our AI journey.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Alex Scott with Barclays. Your line is open.

Alex Scott: Hi. Good morning. For the first one, I wanted to ask you about margins. You know, over time, it's been somewhat linked to organic growth, and the ability to get margin improvement is a lot better when you're growing. Just based on what you're seeing with the potential of AI, does it change the amount of growth that's needed to still get that margin improvement? Can you talk a bit about how you're thinking through that over the next few years if we do stay in a softer market here?

Speaker #6: We actually, we'd say, depending on the quarter or the time period that's different with us. But I want to clarify that we are actively looking to continue to invest with high-quality people to help us deliver solutions for our customers.

Speaker #12: Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Maya Shields with Keith Redding Woods. Your line is open.

Speaker #10: Great. Thanks so much. And good morning. One question on the how did revenues. Is that $31 million of annualized revenues still all employee benefits?

Speaker #6: That said, there is absolutely a positive impact from AI and the potential of that going forward. And then Alex, and the other reason why we included the additional performance metric of our organic with contingents is that's another really good metric in order to have a correlation down to margins and EPS.

J. Powell Brown: Sure. Remember, I think the important thing, Alex, is this. We think that there are opportunities to invest in talented people to help us grow our business going forward. You can actually under-invest and margins could stay flat or go up. That's not how we look at it. We've said, I know there are other brokers that say you gotta have X amount of organic growth in order to have margins go up. We actually would say, depending on the quarter or the time period, that's different with us. We wanna clarify that we are actively looking to continue to invest with high-quality people to help us deliver solutions for our customers. That said, there's absolutely a positive impact from AI and the potential of that going forward.

Speaker #12: No.

Speaker #10: Okay. Thanks. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off.

Speaker #12: No. Go ahead.

Speaker #10: Okay. Unrelated question, but I think we're probably within spitting distance of seeing pricing on June property renewals because it's less than 90 days out.

Speaker #10: And I'm wondering, does this thesis that the rate decreases on cap property will slow down once we've gone through a full renewal cycle? And I'm wondering whether you're seeing any of that.

Speaker #6: Because I think in the past, people have said, "Well, wait a minute. How can your margins go up if your organic goes down or vice versa?" Because the contingents, because they're a core part of our model, can move the margins around in quarters, okay?

Speaker #12: I haven't seen that yet.

Speaker #10: Okay. And then final question. Are the higher state tax rates likely to be an issue for coming quarters?

Speaker #8: Sorry. One more time on that. You broke up.

Speaker #12: Yep. Got all that. Thank you. Next one I had for you is on the revenue opportunities you see from AI. I mean, I think you got into it some with Josh there.

Speaker #10: Sorry. You'd mentioned some higher state tax rates as a factor in the quarter. And I'm wondering whether we should expect that to persist. In the rest of 2026.

Speaker #12: But I mean, is it about specializing? Is it about going down market? And then can you elaborate on any investments that are more concrete that we can think through on how you're advancing towards some of that?

Speaker #8: Yeah, that's probably fair to include that, Mayor.

Speaker #10: Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker #8: Thank you.

Andy: Then, Alex, the other reason why, you know, we included the additional performance metric of our organic with contingents.

R. Andrew Watts: Then, Alex, the other reason why, you know, we included the additional performance metric of our organic with contingents.

Speaker #2: Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Pablo Singzon with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: So like I said, we tried to give you a good peek in the box on the three examples that we've used. I believe that and we will talk more about that in the future.

J. Powell Brown: Is that's another really good metric in order to have a correlation down to margins and EPS. 'Cause I think in the past, people have said, Well, wait a minute, how can your margins go up if your organic goes down or vice versa. Because the contingents, because they're a core part of our model, can move the margins around in quarters. Okay?

Speaker #12: Hi. Thank you. Given your commentary about TQ being a heavier property quarter, would it be reasonable to think about some sequential deterioration in organic X contingents, or do you think your comments about the cadence of quarterly improvement hold?

Speaker #6: But if you think about it, there are lots of people that think about it in the mid and back office efficiency. We don't view AI as a teammate replacement tool.

Speaker #12: Thanks.

Speaker #8: We believe what we said holds true.

Speaker #12: Okay. Okay. Thank you. And then this one's not related to the quarter, but right flood is one of your larger businesses within specialty. Do you have any perspective on how your position as a government is contemplating potential changes to the NFIP that might push businesses into the private market?

Speaker #6: That's number one. Number two, we absolutely believe it improves the customer experience, and we talked a little bit about that as it relates to 25% of the stuff in specialty distribution.

Alex Scott: Yep. Got all that. Thank you.

J. Powell Brown: Okay

Alex Scott: The next one I had for you is on the revenue opportunities you see from AI. I mean, I think you got into it some with Josh there. I mean, is it about, you know, specializing? Is it about going down market? You know, can you elaborate on any investments that, you know, are more concrete that we can think through on how you're advancing towards some of that?

Speaker #12: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Going through and routing, which makes us more efficient. And then number three, it helps us identify growth opportunities with new or existing customers. And so what I would say is that's we've kind of laid out what we want to talk about today.

Speaker #8: Sure. I think, first of all, we like that business. And right has been very successful. As you know, the government has had a hard time reauthorizing for any extended period of time.

Speaker #8: And they're on multiple extensions. And so the answer is the government would like to see more depopulated, but I don't believe that the private market will absorb the areas in the worst flood zones.

J. Powell Brown: Like I said, we tried to give you a good peek in the box on the three examples that we've used. I believe that. We will talk more about that in the future. If you think about it, there are lots of people that think about it in the mid and back office efficiency. We don't view AI as a teammate replacement tool. That's number one. Number two, we absolutely believe it improves the customer experience, and we talked a little bit about that as it relates to 25% of the stuff in Specialty Distribution going through and routing, which makes us more efficient. Then number three, it helps us identify growth opportunities with new or existing customers.

Speaker #6: And as we move further into the year, we'll bring more information to you on that. But we feel positive about our steps we've put in place in terms of our AI journey.

Speaker #12: Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Maya Shields with Q3 Edinburgh. Your line is open.

Speaker #8: So, it's all relative. So don't allow somebody that says, 'We're writing private flood,' to lead you to believe that they're writing that in downtown New Orleans.

Speaker #13: Great. Thanks so much. And good morning. One question on the how in revenue. Is that 31 million of annualized revenues still all employee benefits?

Speaker #8: I think that's very important distinction. So we believe and we have private flood capabilities. We've invested in that. We have all kinds of opportunities to go along with that, both on an FIP and on the private side.

Speaker #6: No.

Speaker #13: Okay. Thanks. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off.

Speaker #6: No? Go ahead.

Speaker #8: But remember, the carriers are not going to want to desire to go into areas that flood on a regular and consistent basis. Okay. Tawanda, we're going to go until 2:15.

Speaker #13: Okay. This is unrelated question, but I think we're probably within spitting distance of seeing pricing on June property renewals because it's less than 90 days out.

J. Powell Brown: What I would say is we've kind of laid out what we wanna talk about today, and as we move further into the year, we'll bring more information to you on that. We feel positive about our steps we've put in place in terms of our AI journey.

Speaker #13: And I'm wondering, does this thesis that the rate decreases on cap property will slow down once we've gone through a full renewal cycle? And I'm wondering whether you're seeing any of that.

Speaker #8: So, we've got 10 minutes, and we've got, I think, two or three people to get through. So, if we can, let's try to get through each person in about two or three minutes, please.

Speaker #6: I haven't seen that yet.

Speaker #2: All right. Our next question comes from the line of Yarin Kanar with Mazuhu. Your line is open.

Speaker #13: Okay. And then final question. Are the higher state tax rates likely to be an issue for coming quarters?

Alex Scott: Got it. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Meyer Shields with Keefe, Bruyette & Woods. Your line is open.

Speaker #13: Thank you. Good morning. Two quick ones on AI. First, there is a school of thought that says, "Look, most of the value in the P&C ecosystem falls to the brokers." And as such, maybe AI creates an opportunity for the insurers to take some of that value back.

Speaker #6: Sorry. One more time on that. You broke up.

Meyer Shields: Great. Thanks so much. Good morning. One question on the, how did revenues. Is that $31 million of annual life revenues still all employee benefits?

Speaker #13: Sorry. You'd mentioned some higher state tax rates as a factor in the quarter. And I'm wondering whether we should expect that to persist. In the rest of 2026.

Speaker #6: Yeah. That's probably fair. To include that, Mayor.

J. Powell Brown: No.

Speaker #13: How do you think about that? How do you respond to that?

Meyer Shields: Okay. Thanks. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.

Speaker #13: Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker #12: You're saying the insurers or the insurers? I want to make sure I heard you correctly. Who takes the value back?

Speaker #6: Thank you.

J. Powell Brown: No, go ahead.

Speaker #1: Yep. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Pablo Singzal with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Meyer Shields: Okay. This is unrelated question, but I think we're probably, like, within spitting distance of seeing pricing on June property renewals because it's less than 90 days out. I'm wondering. There's this thesis that the rate decreases on cap property will slow down once we've gone through a full renewal cycle. I'm wondering whether you're seeing any of that.

Speaker #13: The insurers.

Speaker #12: Yeah. I got it. Actually, I actually would counter that. They do in some instances have a direct model on the very simplistic not complex, not customized commercial risks.

Speaker #12: Hi. Thank you. Given your commentary about Q3 being a heavier property quarter, would it be reasonable to think about subsequential deterioration in organic X contingents, or do you think your comments about the cadence of quarterly improvement hold?

J. Powell Brown: Haven't seen that yet.

Speaker #12: Thanks.

Speaker #12: So I think that will continue. But I actually think anytime there's complexity, that leans much more in the favor of the brokerage community. So I actually would not agree with that statement.

Speaker #6: We believe what we said holds true.

Meyer Shields: Okay. Final question. Are the higher state tax rates likely to be an issue for coming quarters?

J. Powell Brown: Sorry, one more time on that. You broke up.

Meyer Shields: Sorry. You'd mentioned some higher state tax rates as a factor in the quarter, and I'm wondering whether we should expect that to persist in the rest of 2026.

Speaker #13: Got it. Thank you. And then the second one on AI, I'm going to be going back to Josh's question with the 25,000 or less in annual premiums.

Speaker #12: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Sure. I think, first of all, we like that business. And right has been very successful. As you know, the government has had a hard time reauthorizing for any extended period of time.

J. Powell Brown: Oh. Yeah, that's probably fair to include that, Meyer Shields.

Meyer Shields: Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker #13: Given that that slice of the market tends to go more to the smaller independent agencies, does that impact your appetite for smaller tuck and M&A over the long run?

J. Powell Brown: Thank you.

Operator: Yep. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Pablo Singhal with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: And they're on multiple extensions. And so the answer is the government would like to see more depopulated, but I don't believe that the private market will absorb the areas in the worst flood zones.

Speaker #12: Depends. Those businesses and we have to evaluate that on a constant and consistent basis going forward. We like small and medium-sized tuck-in M&A. But we want to understand exactly what they've got in there and then how we would service it and continue to add additional value.

Pablo Singhal: Hi. Thank you. Given your commentary about Q2 being a heavier property quarter, would it be reasonable to think about some sequential deterioration organic ex contingents, or do you think your comments about the cadence of quarterly improvement holds? Thanks.

Vipul Singhal: Hi. Thank you. Given your commentary about Q2 being a heavier property quarter, would it be reasonable to think about some sequential deterioration organic ex contingents, or do you think your comments about the cadence of quarterly improvement holds? Thanks.

J. Powell Brown: We believe what we said holds true.

Speaker #6: So it's all relative. So don't allow somebody that says, "We're writing private flood," to lead you to believe that they're writing that in downtown New Orleans.

Pablo Singhal: Okay. Thank you. This one's not related to the quarter, but Wright Flood is one of your larger businesses within Specialty Distribution.

Vipul Singhal: Okay. Thank you. This one's not related to the quarter, but Wright Flood is one of your larger businesses within Specialty Distribution. Do you have any perspective in how your position as the government is contemplating potential changes to the NFIP that might push businesses to the private market? Thank you.

Speaker #12: Here's the one thing that I want to raise that I think is important. AI disintermediates tasks. AI does not disintermediate trust. And so our business is built on trust.

J. Powell Brown: Mm-hmm

Pablo Singhal: Do you have any perspective in how your position as the government is contemplating potential changes to the NFIP that might push businesses to the private market? Thank you.

Speaker #6: I think that's very important distinction. So we believe, and we have private flood capabilities. We've invested in that. We have all kinds of opportunities to go along with that, both on the NFIP and on the private side.

J. Powell Brown: Sure. I think, first of all, we like that business. Wright has been very successful. As you know, the government has had a hard time reauthorizing for any extended period of time, and they're on multiple extensions. The answer is, the government would like to see more depopulated, but I don't believe that the private market will absorb the areas in the worst flood zones. It's all relative. Don't allow somebody that says we're writing private flood to lead you to believe that they're writing that in downtown New Orleans. I think that's a very important distinction. We believe, and we have private flood capabilities. We've invested in that. We have all kinds of opportunities to go along with that, both on the NFIP and on the private side.

Speaker #6: But remember, the carriers are not going to want to desire to go into areas that flood on a regular and consistent basis.

Speaker #12: And good advice and so when people are spending it depends on I would ask you, rhetorically, at what point, what is the largest purchase you've made on the internet ever without ever talking to someone or having engagement?

Speaker #13: Okay. Tawanda, we're going to go until 2:15. So we've got 10 minutes and we've got I think two or three people to get through.

Speaker #13: So if we can we try to get through each person in about two or three minutes, please.

Speaker #12: Many people say it's a television or a pair of golf clubs. But let's say you bought a car. I made that up. Right? A used car.

Speaker #1: All right. Our next question comes from the line of Yarin Kanar with Mzuhu. Your line is open.

Speaker #12: Or something. Okay. But many people want to talk to somebody and have the advice and this is not, as you know, just a product.

Speaker #14: Thank you. Good morning. Two quick ones on AI. First, there is a school of thought that says, "Look, most of the value in the P&C ecosystem falls to the brokers." And as such, maybe AI creates an opportunity for the insurers to take some of that value back.

Speaker #12: There is this is a complex, intangible sale. So just something to think about. I know you knew that, but let's take the next question.

Speaker #14: How do you think about that? How do you respond to that?

Speaker #12: Thanks, Yaron.

Speaker #13: Thank you.

Speaker #2: All right. One moment. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Meredith with UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: You're saying the insurers or the insurers? I want to make sure I heard you correctly. Who takes the value back?

J. Powell Brown: Remember, the carriers are not gonna want to desire to go into areas that flood on a regular and consistent basis. Okay. Tawanda, we're gonna go until 2:15, so we've got 10 minutes, and we've got, I think two or three people to get through. If, again, we try to get through each person in about two or three minutes pace.

Speaker #14: Yeah. Thanks. Two quick ones here. First on AI, Pal. Do you think it has any effect on kind of the long-term commission rates or what you charge your clients given the productivity benefits you're likely to see from it?

Speaker #14: The insurers.

Speaker #6: Yeah. I got it. Actually, I actually would counter that. They do, in some instances, have a direct model on the very simplistic not complex, not customized commercial risks.

Speaker #12: I don't like to say never or always. But I actually think that if you look at the way the risk-bearing community is looking to grow and people are trying to come to market as evidenced by reinsurance companies trying to get into the insurance business and get closer to the market, I believe that their it's possible, but I don't think it's highly probable.

Speaker #6: So I think that will continue. But I actually think anytime there's complexity, that leans much more in the favor of the brokerage community. So I actually would not agree with that statement.

Operator: All right. Our next question comes from the line of Yaron Kinar with Mizuho. Your line is open.

Yaron Kinar: Thank you. Good morning. Two quick ones on AI. First, there is a school of thought that says, look, most of the value in the P&C ecosystem falls to the brokers, as such, maybe AI creates an opportunity for the insurers to take some of that value back. How do you think about that? How do you respond to that?

Speaker #14: Got it. Thank you. And then the second one on AI, and maybe going back to Josh's question with the 25,000 or less in annual premiums, given that that slice of the market tends to go more to the smaller independent agencies, does that impact your appetite for smaller tuck and M&A over the long run?

Speaker #12: Hey, Brian. Yeah. Hey, Brian. And one other piece on that I think maybe that folks aren't always keeping in mind is there's the presumption that the cost of technology will not go up.

J. Powell Brown: You're saying the insureds or the insurers? I want to make sure I heard you correctly. Who takes the value back?

Yaron Kinar: The insurers.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah, I got it. Actually, I would counter that. They do, in some instances, have a direct model on the very simplistic, not complex, not customized commercial risks. I think that will continue, but I actually think any time there's complexity that leans much more in the favor of the brokerage community. I actually would not agree with that statement.

Speaker #12: And so I don't know what that will actually look like in the future, but do we expect our overall cost of technology to go up as a result of implementing all these capabilities?

Speaker #6: Depends. On those businesses, and we have to evaluate that on a constant and consistent basis going forward. We like small and medium-sized tuck-in M&A.

Speaker #12: Yeah, it probably will.

Speaker #13: Makes sense. And then second question, just quickly on a session here, it looks like that revenues were kind of flattish on the year-over-year basis.

Speaker #6: But we want to understand exactly what they've got in there and then how we would service it and continue to add additional value. Here's the one thing that I want to raise.

Speaker #13: How are you thinking about Ascension as you kind of look in the second half of the year on your kind of organic revenue growth improving?

Speaker #6: That I think is important. AI disintermediates tasks. AI does not disintermediate trust. And so our business is built on trust. And good advice and so when people are spending it depends on I would ask you rhetorically.

Speaker #13: Maybe I've got that wrong.

Speaker #12: No, I think split it into two pieces. One, overall, we feel good about the business. As we mentioned in our commentary, we see that the 180 business, as it rolls into organic in the back end of the year, will be contributory to the organic and specialty distribution.

Yaron Kinar: Got it. Thank you. Then the second one on AI, maybe going back to Josh's question with the $25,000 or less in annual premiums. Given that that slice of the market tends to go more to the small independent agencies, does that impact your appetite for smaller tuck-in M&A over the long run?

Speaker #12: And then the overall Risk Strategies business is performing relatively similar to the others, so it's probably not going to have any major movements either direction just because of the pure size of it.

J. Powell Brown: Depends on those businesses, we have to evaluate that on a constant and consistent basis going forward. We like small and medium-sized tuck-in M&A, we wanna understand exactly what they've got in there, and then how we would service it and continue to add additional value. Here's the one thing that I want to raise that I think is important. AI disintermediates tasks. AI does not disintermediate trust. Our business is built on trust and good advice. When people are spending, you know, I would ask you rhetorically, at what point? What is the largest purchase you've made on the internet ever without ever talking to someone or having engagement? Many people say it's a television or a pair of golf clubs. Let's say you bought a car. I made that up, right?

Speaker #6: At what point, what is the largest purchase you've made on the internet ever without ever talking to someone or having engagement? Many people say it's a television or a pair of golf clubs.

Speaker #13: Right. Thank you.

Speaker #12: Yeah. Thank you.

Speaker #13: All right.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sure I know further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Paul for closing remarks.

Speaker #6: But let's say you bought a car. I made that up, right? A used car or something. Okay. But many people want to talk to somebody and have the advice and this is not, as you know, just a product.

Speaker #12: Thank you, Tawana. And thank you all for your time today. We look forward to talking to you next quarter. Good day.

Speaker #6: There is this is a complex, intangible sale. So just something to think about. I know you knew that, but let's take the next question.

Speaker #6: Thanks, Yaron.

Speaker #14: Thank you.

Speaker #1: All right. One moment. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Meredith with UBS. Your line is

Speaker #15: Yeah. Thanks. Two quick ones here. First on AI, Pal. Do you think it has any effect on kind of the long-term commission rates or what you charge your clients given the productivity benefits you're likely to see from it?

Speaker #6: I don't like to say never or always. But I actually think that if you look at the way the risk-bearing community is looking to grow and people are trying to come to market as evidenced by reinsurance companies trying to get into the insurance business and get closer to the market, I believe that their it's possible, but I don't think it's highly probable.

J. Powell Brown: A used car or something. Okay. Many people wanna talk to somebody and have the advice, and this is not, as you know, just a product. This is a complex, intangible sale. Just something to think about. I know you knew that, but let's take the next question. Thanks, Yaron.

Yaron Kinar: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Hey, Brian. Hey, Brian. And one other piece on that, I think maybe that folks aren't always keeping in mind is there's the presumption that the cost of technology will not go up.

Operator: All right. One moment. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Meredith with UBS. Your line is open.

Brian Meredith: Yeah, thanks. Two quick ones here. First on AI, Powell. Do you think it has any effect on kind of the long-term commission rates or what you charge your clients, given the productivity benefits you're likely to see from it?

Speaker #6: And so I don't know what that will actually look like in the future, but do we expect our overall cost of technology to go up as a result of implementing all these capabilities?

J. Powell Brown: I don't like to say never or always, but I actually think that, if you look at the way the risk-bearing community is looking to grow, and people are trying to come to market, as evidenced by reinsurance companies trying to get into the insurance business and get closer to the market, I believe that they're, it's possible, but I don't think it's highly probable.

Speaker #6: Yeah, it probably will.

Speaker #14: Makes sense. And then second question, just quickly on a session here, it looks like that revenues were kind of flattish on the year-over-year basis.

Speaker #14: How are you thinking about Ascension as you kind of look in the second half of the year on your kind of organic revenue growth improving?

Speaker #14: Maybe I've got that wrong.

Speaker #6: No, I think split it into two pieces. One, overall, we feel good about the business. As we mentioned in our commentary, we see that the 180 business, as it rolls into organic in the back end of the year, will be contributory to the organic and specialty distribution.

Brian Meredith: Right. Thanks.

J. Powell Brown: Hey, Brian.

R. Andrew Watts: Hey, Brian.

Brian Meredith: Yeah.

J. Powell Brown: Hey, Brian. One other piece on that, I think maybe that folks aren't always keeping in mind is there's the presumption that the cost of technology will not go up.

R. Andrew Watts: Hey, Brian. One other piece on that, I think maybe that folks aren't always keeping in mind is there's the presumption that the cost of technology will not go up.

Speaker #6: And then the overall risk strategies business is performing relatively similar to the others. So it's probably not going to have any major movements either direction just because of pure size of it.

Brian Meredith: Yeah.

J. Powell Brown: Don't know what that will actually look like in the future, but do we expect, our overall cost of technology to go up as a result of implementing all these capabilities? Yeah, it probably will.

R. Andrew Watts: Don't know what that will actually look like in the future, but do we expect, our overall cost of technology to go up as a result of implementing all these capabilities? Yeah, it probably will.

Speaker #14: Right. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Thank you.

Speaker #14: All right.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Paul for closing remarks.

Brian Meredith: Makes sense. Second question.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah

Brian Meredith: Just quickly on Accession here. It looks like that revenues were kind of flattish on a year-over-year basis. How are you thinking about Accession as you kind of look in the H2 on your kind of organic revenue growth improving? Maybe I've got that wrong.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah

Speaker #6: Thank you, Tawana. And thank you all for your time today. We look forward to talking to you next quarter. Good day.

J. Powell Brown: No, I think, split it into, you know, into two pieces. Is one, overall, we feel good about the business. As we mentioned in our commentary, we see, that the One80 business, as it rolls into organic in the back end of the year, will be contributory to the organic and Specialty Distribution. The overall Risk Strategies business is performing relatively similar to those, so it's probably not gonna have any major movements either direction just because of the pure size of it.

R. Andrew Watts: No, I think, split it into, you know, into two pieces. Is one, overall, we feel good about the business. As we mentioned in our commentary, we see, that the One80 business, as it rolls into organic in the back end of the year, will be contributory to the organic and Specialty Distribution. The overall Risk Strategies business is performing relatively similar to those, so it's probably not gonna have any major movements either direction just because of the pure size of it.

Brian Meredith: Great. Thank you.

J. Powell Brown: Yeah. Thank you. All right.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, I am showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Powell for closing remarks.

J. Powell Brown: Thank you, Tawanda, and thank you all for your time today. We look forward to talking to you next Q. Good day.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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