Q2 2026 Insteel Industries Inc Earnings Call

April 16, 2026

Operator: Becky and I will be your operators today. All lines will be muted throughout the presentation portion of the call, with a chance for Q&A at the end. If you wish to ask a question in this time, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypads. I will now hand over to your host, H.O. Woltz III, CEO, to begin. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: And I will be your operator today. All lines will be muted throughout the presentation portion of the call, with a chance for Q&A at the end.

Speaker #1: If you wish to ask a question in this time, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypads. I will now hand over to your host, H Waltz, CEO, to begin.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Becky. Good morning, and thank you for your interest in Insteel, and welcome to our second quarter of 2026 conference call, which will be conducted by Scot Jafroodi, our vice president, CFO, and treasurer, and me.

H.O. Woltz III: Thank you, Becky. Good morning, and thank you for your interest in Insteel, and welcome to our Q2 2026 Conference Call, which will be conducted by Scot R. Jafroodi, our Vice President, CFO, and Treasurer, and me. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the comments made in our presentation are considered to be forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risk factors are described in our periodic filings with the SEC. Despite falling well short of our expected financial performance in Q2, we believe the upturn in business activity we reported previously is still intact. Winter weather is a factor of life in our business, and it happens that during Q2, conditions were severe and prolonged in many geographies, particularly compared to recent years.

H.O. Woltz III: Thank you, Becky. Good morning, and thank you for your interest in Insteel, and welcome to our Q2 2026 Conference Call, which will be conducted by Scot Jafroodi, our Vice President, CFO, and Treasurer, and me. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the comments made in our presentation are considered to be forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risk factors are described in our periodic filings with the SEC. Despite falling well short of our expected financial performance in Q2, we believe the upturn in business activity we reported previously is still intact. Winter weather is a factor of life in our business, and it happens that during Q2, conditions were severe and prolonged in many geographies, particularly compared to recent years.

Speaker #2: Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the comments made in our presentation are considered to be forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected.

Speaker #2: These risk factors are described in our periodic filings with the SEC. Despite following well short of our expected financial performance in Q2, we believe the upturning business activity we reported previously is still intact.

Speaker #2: Winter weather is a factor of life in our business, and it happens that during Q2 conditions were severe and prolonged in many geographies, particularly compared to recent years.

Speaker #2: And project delays, while undesirable, are rather common in the industry. We regret that we experienced both of these phenomena during Q2, but we're confident that short-term weather conditions and project delays neither create nor destroy demand, and that postponed demand will be evident during the balance of fiscal 2026.

H.O. Woltz III: Project delays, while undesirable, are rather common in the industry. We regret that we experienced both of these phenomena during Q2, but we're confident that short-term weather conditions and project delays neither create nor destroy demand, and that postponed demand will be evident during the balance of fiscal 2026. I'm going to turn the call over to Scott to comment on our financial results, and then following his comments, I'll pick the call back up to discuss our business outlook.

Speaker #2: I'm going to turn the call over to Scott to comment on our financial results and then follow in his comments, I'll pick the call back off to discuss our business outlook.

Speaker #3: Thank you, H. And good morning to everyone joining us on the call. As we reported earlier this morning, our second quarter results were weaker than expected.

Scot R. Jafroodi: Thank you, H. Good morning to everyone joining us on the call. As we reported earlier this morning, our Q2 results were weaker than expected, reflecting the combined impact of winter weather disruptions, lower spreads, and higher per-unit conversion costs. Net earnings for the quarter were $5.2 million, or $0.27 per share, compared with $10.2 million, or $0.52 per diluted share in the same period last year. Shipments for the quarter declined 5.9% from the prior year, but increased 6.9% sequentially from Q1. While the second quarter typically reflects some seasonal softness, conditions this year were significantly more severe.

Scot Jafroodi: Thank you, H. Good morning to everyone joining us on the call. As we reported earlier this morning, our Q2 results were weaker than expected, reflecting the combined impact of winter weather disruptions, lower spreads, and higher per-unit conversion costs. Net earnings for the quarter were $5.2 million, or $0.27 per share, compared with $10.2 million, or $0.52 per diluted share in the same period last year. Shipments for the quarter declined 5.9% from the prior year, but increased 6.9% sequentially from Q1. While the Q2 typically reflects some seasonal softness, conditions this year were significantly more severe.

Speaker #3: Reflecting the combined impact of winter weather disruptions, lower spreads, and higher unit conversion costs, the earnings for the quarter were $5.2 million, or $27 cents per share, compared with $10.2 million, or $52 cents per diluted share in the same period last year.

Speaker #3: Shipments for the quarter declined 5.9% from the prior year, but increased 6.9% sequentially from the first quarter. While the second quarter typically reflects some seasonal softness, conditions this year were significantly more severe.

Speaker #3: Following a solid start in January, we experienced extended periods of winter weather across most of our markets. With reduced construction activity and disrupted operating schedules for both our customers and Insteel, which weighed on order flow and shipments.

Scot R. Jafroodi: Following a solid start in January, we experienced extended periods of winter weather across most of our markets, which reduced construction activity and disrupted operating schedules for both our customers and Insteel, which weighed on order flow and shipments. In addition, certain projects originally scheduled for delivery during the quarter were deferred to later in the year for reasons unrelated to weather. Although we are still early in Q3, recent order activity has been solid, with April shipments trending above forecasted levels. With that backdrop on volumes, let me turn to pricing. Average selling prices were up 14.2% year over year, driven by the pricing actions we put in place throughout fiscal 2025 and into the current year to offset higher rod costs, increased Section 232 tariffs, and rising operating expenses.

Scot Jafroodi: Following a solid start in January, we experienced extended periods of winter weather across most of our markets, which reduced construction activity and disrupted operating schedules for both our customers and Insteel, which weighed on order flow and shipments. In addition, certain projects originally scheduled for delivery during the quarter were deferred to later in the year for reasons unrelated to weather. Although we are still early in Q3, recent order activity has been solid, with April shipments trending above forecasted levels. With that backdrop on volumes, let me turn to pricing. Average selling prices were up 14.2% year-over-year, driven by the pricing actions we put in place throughout fiscal 2025 and into the current year to offset higher rod costs, increased Section 232 tariffs, and rising operating expenses.

Speaker #3: In addition, certain projects originally scheduled for delivery during the quarter were deferred to later in the year for reasons unrelated to weather. Although we are still early in the third quarter, recent order activity has been solid.

Speaker #3: With April shipments trending above forecasted levels. With that backdrop on volumes, let me turn to pricing. Average selling prices were up 14.2% year over year, driven by the pricing actions we put in place throughout fiscal 2025 and into the current year to offset higher raw costs, increased Section 232 tariffs, and rising operating expenses.

Speaker #3: Sequentially, ASPs were up 1% from the first quarter, even as wire raw costs continued to move higher. For context, published prices for steel wire rod are primary raw material.

Scot R. Jafroodi: Sequentially, ASPs were up 1% from Q1, even as wire rod costs continued to move higher. For context, published prices for steel wire rod, our primary raw material, rose $90 per ton during the quarter. Although we implemented additional price increases during Q2, the limited sequential improvement in ASPs was influenced by product mix, existing contractual pricing, and softer volumes. We expect these recent pricing actions, along with the additional price increase implemented in April, to provide further benefit in the coming periods as they are more fully reflected in our realized pricing. Gross profit declined $8 million year over year to $16.5 million, and gross margin narrowed to 9.6%. The decline primarily reflects lower shipment volumes, reduced spreads between selling prices and raw material costs, and higher unit conversion costs resulting from lower production levels and weather-related operational inefficiencies.

Scot Jafroodi: Sequentially, ASPs were up 1% from Q1, even as wire rod costs continued to move higher. For context, published prices for steel wire rod, our primary raw material, rose $90 per ton during the quarter. Although we implemented additional price increases during Q2, the limited sequential improvement in ASPs was influenced by product mix, existing contractual pricing, and softer volumes. We expect these recent pricing actions, along with the additional price increase implemented in April, to provide further benefit in the coming periods as they are more fully reflected in our realized pricing. Gross profit declined $8 million year-over-year to $16.5 million, and gross margin narrowed to 9.6%. The decline primarily reflects lower shipment volumes, reduced spreads between selling prices and raw material costs, and higher unit conversion costs resulting from lower production levels and weather-related operational inefficiencies.

Scot Jafroodi: Which reduced construction activity and disrupted operating schedules for both our customers and Insteel, which weighed on order flow and shipments. In addition, certain projects originally scheduled for delivery during the quarter were deferred to later in the year for reasons unrelated to weather. Although we are still early in Q3, recent order activity has been solid, with April shipments trending above forecasted levels. With that backdrop on volumes, let me turn to pricing. Average selling prices were up 14.2% year over year, driven by the pricing actions we put in place throughout fiscal 2025 and into the current year to offset higher rod costs, increased Section 232 tariffs, and rising operating expenses. Sequentially, ASPs were up 1% from Q1, even as wire rod costs continued to move higher.

Speaker #1: To reduce construction activity and disrupted operating schedules for both our customers and Insteel, which weighed on order flow and shipments. In addition, certain projects originally scheduled for delivery during the quarter were deferred to later in the year for reasons unrelated to weather.

Speaker #3: Rose $90 per ton during the quarter. Although we implemented additional price increases during Q2, the limited sequential improvement in ASPs was influenced by product mix, existing contractual pricing, and softer volumes.

Speaker #1: Although we are still early in the third quarter, recent order activity has been solid. With April shipments trending above forecasted levels. With that backdrop on volumes, let me turn to pricing.

Speaker #3: We expect these recent pricing actions, along with the additional price increase implemented in April, to provide further benefit in the coming periods as they are more fully reflected in our realized pricing.

Speaker #1: Average selling prices were up 14.2% year over year, driven by the pricing actions we put in place throughout fiscal 2025 and into the current year to offset higher raw costs, increased Section 232 tariffs, and rising operating expenses.

Speaker #3: Gross profit declined $8 million year over year to 16.5 million, and gross margin narrowed to 9.6%. The declined primarily reflects lower shipment volumes, reduced spreads between selling prices and raw material costs, and higher unit conversion costs, resulting from lower production levels and weather-related operational inefficiencies.

Speaker #1: Sequentially, ASPs were up 1% from the first quarter, even as wire raw costs continued to move higher. For context, published prices for steel wire rod are primary raw material.

Speaker #3: Sequentially, gross profit declined 1.6 million and gross margin contracted by 170 basis points, as the slowdown in shipments delayed the tailwinds of recent price increases and extended the lag between raw material costs increases and realized pricing.

Scot R. Jafroodi: Sequentially, gross profit declined $1.6 million, and gross margin contracted by 170 basis points as the slowdown in shipments delayed the tailwinds of recent price increases and extended the lag between raw material cost increases and realized pricing. As we enter Q3, we expect several factors to support a recovery in gross margin. Demand is improving as we move into the seasonally stronger portion of the year. Recent price increases are beginning to gain traction, and our current raw material carrying values are more favorable. In addition, higher operating rates across our facilities should enhance fixed cost absorption. Taken together, these factors are expected to support a gradual improvement in margin performance as the quarter progresses.

Scot Jafroodi: Sequentially, gross profit declined $1.6 million, and gross margin contracted by 170 basis points as the slowdown in shipments delayed the tailwinds of recent price increases and extended the lag between raw material cost increases and realized pricing. As we enter Q3, we expect several factors to support a recovery in gross margin. Demand is improving as we move into the seasonally stronger portion of the year. Recent price increases are beginning to gain traction, and our current raw material carrying values are more favorable. In addition, higher operating rates across our facilities should enhance fixed cost absorption. Taken together, these factors are expected to support a gradual improvement in margin performance as the quarter progresses.

Scot Jafroodi: For context, published prices for steel wire rod, our primary raw material, rose $90 per ton during the quarter. Although we implemented additional price increases during Q2, the limited sequential improvement in ASPs was influenced by product mix, existing contractual pricing, and softer volumes. We expect these recent pricing actions, along with the additional price increase implemented in April, to provide further benefit in the coming periods as they are more fully reflected in our realized pricing. Gross profit declined $8 million year-over-year to $16.5 million, and gross margin narrowed to 9.6%. The decline primarily reflects lower shipment volumes, reduced spreads between selling prices and raw material costs, and higher unit conversion costs resulting from lower production levels and weather-related operational inefficiencies.

Speaker #1: Rose $90 per ton during the quarter. Although we implemented additional price increases during Q2, the limited sequential improvement in ASPs was influenced by product mix, existing contractual pricing, and softer volumes.

Speaker #3: As we enter the third quarter, we expect several factors to support a recovering gross margin. Demand is improving as we move into the seasonally stronger portion of the year.

Speaker #1: We expect these recent pricing actions, along with the additional price increase implemented in April, to provide further benefit in the coming periods as they are more fully reflected in our realized pricing.

Speaker #3: Recent price increases are beginning to gain traction, and our current raw material carrying values are more favorable. In addition, higher operating rates across our facility should enhance fixed cost absorption, taking together these factors are expected to support a gradual improvement in margin performance as the quarter progresses.

Speaker #1: Gross profit declined $8 million year over year to 16.5 million, and gross margin narrowed to 9.6%. The declined primarily reflects lower shipment volumes, reduced spreads between selling prices and raw material costs, and higher unit conversion costs, resulting from lower production levels and weather-related operational inefficiencies.

Speaker #3: SG&A expense for the quarter decreased to 9.7 million, or 5.6% in net sales. Compared to 10.8 million, or 6.7% in net sales in the prior year period.

Scot R. Jafroodi: SG&A expense for the quarter decreased to $9.7 million, or 5.6% of net sales, compared to $10.8 million, or 6.7% of net sales in the prior year period. The decline was primarily driven by a $1.1 million reduction in compensation costs tied to our return on capital-based incentive plan, reflecting weaker financial performance this year. SG&A expense was also affected by $203,000 unfavorable year-over-year change in the cash surrender value of life insurance policies, reflecting the downturn in financial markets and its effect on the unrealized investments. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 23.3%, which is up slightly from 23.2% last year.

Scot Jafroodi: SG&A expense for the quarter decreased to $9.7 million, or 5.6% of net sales, compared to $10.8 million, or 6.7% of net sales in the prior year period. The decline was primarily driven by a $1.1 million reduction in compensation costs tied to our return on capital-based incentive plan, reflecting weaker financial performance this year. SG&A expense was also affected by $203,000 unfavorable year-over-year change in the cash surrender value of life insurance policies, reflecting the downturn in financial markets and its effect on the unrealized investments. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 23.3%, which is up slightly from 23.2% last year.

Speaker #1: Sequentially, gross profit declined 1.6 million and gross margin contracted by 170 basis points, as the slowdown in shipments delayed the tailwinds of recent price increases and extended the lag between raw material costs increases and realized pricing.

Speaker #3: The decline was primarily driven by a 1.1 million reduction in compensation costs tied to our return on capital to base incentive plan, reflecting weaker financial performance this $203,000 unfavorable year-over-year change in the cash render value of life insurance policies, reflecting the downturn in financial markets and its effect on the underlying investments.

Speaker #1: As we enter the third quarter, we expect several factors to support a recovering gross margin. Demand is improving as we move into the seasonally stronger portion of the year.

Speaker #1: Recent price increases are beginning to gain traction, and our current raw material carrying values are more favorable. In addition, higher operating rates across our facility should enhance fixed cost absorption, taking together these factors are expected to support a gradual improvement in margin performance as the quarter progresses.

Speaker #3: Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 23.3%, which is up slightly from 23.2% last year, looking ahead we expect our effective tax rate for the remainder of the year to be approximately 23%, subject to the level of pre-tax earnings booked to tax differences and the other assumptions and estimates underlying our tax provision calculation.

Scot R. Jafroodi: Looking ahead, we expect our effective tax rate for the remainder of the year to be approximately 23%, subject to the level of pretax earnings, book-to-tax differences, and the other assumptions and estimates underlying our tax provision calculation. Turning to the cash flow statement and balance sheet. Operating cash flow provided $4.8 million in the current quarter, compared with using $3.3 million of cash in the prior year period, driven primarily by the change in net working capital. Net working capital used $1.4 million cash in Q2, reflecting a $16.8 million increase in receivables resulting from higher sales and average selling prices, partially offset by a $13.3 million reduction in inventory as we scaled back raw material purchases. Our quarter-end inventory position represented approximately 3.4 months of shipments on a forward-looking basis, calculated off of our Q3 forecast.

Scot Jafroodi: Looking ahead, we expect our effective tax rate for the remainder of the year to be approximately 23%, subject to the level of pretax earnings, book-to-tax differences, and the other assumptions and estimates underlying our tax provision calculation. Turning to the cash flow statement and balance sheet. Operating cash flow provided $4.8 million in the current quarter, compared with using $3.3 million of cash in the prior year period, driven primarily by the change in net working capital. Net working capital used $1.4 million cash in Q2, reflecting a $16.8 million increase in receivables resulting from higher sales and average selling prices, partially offset by a $13.3 million reduction in inventory as we scaled back raw material purchases. Our quarter-end inventory position represented approximately 3.4 months of shipments on a forward-looking basis, calculated off of our Q3 forecast.

Speaker #1: SG&A expense for the quarter decreased to $9.7 million, or 5.6% of net sales, compared to $10.8 million, or 6.7% of net sales, in the prior year period.

Speaker #3: Turning to cash flow statement and balance sheet, operating cash flow provided $4.8 million in the current quarter compared with using $3.3 million of cash in the prior year period, driven primarily by the change in networking capital.

Speaker #1: The decline was primarily driven by a $1.1 million reduction in compensation costs tied to our return on capital to base incentive plan, reflecting weaker financial performance this year.

Scot Jafroodi: The decline was primarily driven by a $1.1 million reduction in compensation costs tied to our return on capital based incentive plan, reflecting weaker financial performance this year. SG&A expense was also affected by a $203,000 unfavorable year-over-year change in the cash surrender value of life insurance policies, reflecting the downturn in financial markets and its effect on the underlying investments. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 23.3%, which is up slightly from 23.2% last year. Looking ahead, we expect our effective tax rate for the remainder of the year to be approximately 23%, subject to the level of pretax earnings, book-to-tax differences, and the other assumptions and estimates underlying our tax provision calculation. Turning to the cash flow statement and balance sheet.

Speaker #3: Networking capital to use $1.4 million of cash in the second quarter reflecting a 16.8 million increase in receivables resulting from higher sales and average selling prices.

Speaker #1: SG&A expense was also affected by a $203,000 unfavorable year-over-year change in the cash render value of life insurance policies, reflecting the downturn in financial markets and its effect on the underlying investments.

Speaker #3: Partially offset by a 13.3 million reduction in inventory as we scale back raw material purchases. Our quarter-end inventory position represented approximately $3.4 months of shipments on a forward-looking basis calculated off of our third quarter forecast.

Speaker #1: Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 23.3%, which is up slightly from 23.2% last year, looking ahead we expect our effective tax rate for the remainder of the year to be approximately 23%, subject to the level of pre-tax earnings booked to tax differences and the other assumptions and estimates underlying our tax provision calculation.

Speaker #3: That's down from $3.9 months at the end of the first quarter. As we mentioned on our Q1 call, we increased inventory levels early in the year as we supplemented domestic wire rod with offshore material and that billed naturally eased as we moved through the second quarter.

Scot R. Jafroodi: That's down from 3.9 months at the end of Q1. As we mentioned on our Q1 call, we increased inventory levels early in the year as we supplemented domestic wire rod with offshore material, and that build naturally eased as we moved through Q2. Looking ahead, we expect a modest increase in inventory as we move into the seasonal busy period, positioning us to support higher shipment volumes. Additionally, our inventories at the end of Q2 were valued at an average unit cost that approximates our Q2 cost of sales and remains stable relative to current replacement costs, which will have a positive impact on spreads and margins as we move through Q3.

Scot Jafroodi: That's down from 3.9 months at the end of Q1. As we mentioned on our Q1 call, we increased inventory levels early in the year as we supplemented domestic wire rod with offshore material, and that build naturally eased as we moved through Q2. Looking ahead, we expect a modest increase in inventory as we move into the seasonal busy period, positioning us to support higher shipment volumes. Additionally, our inventories at the end of Q2 were valued at an average unit cost that approximates our Q2 cost of sales and remains stable relative to current replacement costs, which will have a positive impact on spreads and margins as we move through Q3.

Speaker #1: Turning to the cash flow statement and balance sheet, operating cash flow provided $4.8 million in the current quarter, compared with using $3.3 million of cash in the prior year period, driven primarily by the change in net working capital.

Speaker #3: Looking ahead, we expect a modest increase in inventory as we move into the seasonal busy period, positioning us to support higher shipment volumes. Additionally, our inventories at the end of the second quarter were valued at an average unit cost at approximates our second quarter cost of sales and remained favorable relative to current replacement costs, which will have a positive impact on spreads and margins as we move through the third quarter.

Scot Jafroodi: Operating cash flow provided $4.8 million in the current quarter, compared with using $3.3 million of cash in the prior year period, driven primarily by the change in net working capital. Net working capital used $1.4 million cash in Q2, reflecting a $16.8 million increase in receivables resulting from higher sales and average selling prices, partially offset by a $13.3 million reduction in inventory as we scaled back raw material purchases. Our quarter-end inventory position represented approximately 3.4 months of shipments on a forward-looking basis, calculated off of our Q3 forecast. That's down from 3.9 months at the end of Q1. As we mentioned on our Q1 call, we increased inventory levels early in the year as we supplemented domestic wire rod with offshore material, and that build naturally eased as we moved through Q2.

Speaker #1: Networking capital to use $1.4 million of cash in the second quarter, reflecting a 16.8 million increase in receivables, resulting from higher sales and average selling prices.

Speaker #1: Partially offset by a 13.3 million reduction in inventory as we scale back raw material purchases. Our quarter-end inventory position represented approximately 3.4 months of shipments on the forward-looking basis, calculated off of our third-quarter forecast.

Speaker #3: We incurred $4.4 million in capital expenditures in the quarter for a total of $5.9 million through the first half of our fiscal year, and we remain committed to our full-year target of $20 million.

Scot R. Jafroodi: We incurred $4.4 million in capital expenditures in the quarter for a total of $5.9 million through H1 of our fiscal year, and we remain committed to our full-year target of $20 million. Finally, from a liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $15.1 million of cash on hand and no borrowings outstanding on our $100 million revolving credit facility, providing us ample liquidity and financial flexibility going forward. Turning to the macroeconomic indicators for our construction end markets, the latest readings from our two leading measures, the Architecture Billings Index and the Dodge Momentum Index, point to an environment that remains uneven but generally stable. The Architecture Billings Index, which typically leads nonresidential construction activity by approximately nine to 12 months, improved to 49.4 in February from 43.8 in January.

Scot Jafroodi: We incurred $4.4 million in capital expenditures in the quarter for a total of $5.9 million through H1 of our fiscal year, and we remain committed to our full-year target of $20 million. Finally, from a liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $15.1 million of cash on hand and no borrowings outstanding on our $100 million revolving credit facility, providing us ample liquidity and financial flexibility going forward. Turning to the macroeconomic indicators for our construction end markets, the latest readings from our two leading measures, the Architecture Billings Index and the Dodge Momentum Index, point to an environment that remains uneven but generally stable. The Architecture Billings Index, which typically leads nonresidential construction activity by approximately nine to 12 months, improved to 49.4 in February from 43.8 in January.

Speaker #3: Finally, from a liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $15.1 million of cash on hand and no borrowing outstanding on our $100 million revolving credit facility.

Speaker #1: That's down from 3.9 months at the end of the first quarter. As we mentioned on our Q1 call, we increased inventory levels early in the year as we supplemented domestic wire rod with offshore material and that billed naturally eased as we moved through the second quarter.

Speaker #3: Regarding us, ample liquidity and financial flexibility going forward. Turning to the macroeconomic indicators for our construction and markets, the latest readings from our two leading measures, the architectural billing index and the DOJ amendment index, point to an environment that remains uneven but generally stable.

Speaker #1: Looking ahead, we expect a modest increase in inventory as we move into the seasonal busy period, positioning us to support higher shipment volumes. Additionally, our inventories at the end of the second quarter were valued at an average unit cost at approximates our second-quarter cost of sales, and remained favorable relative to current replacement costs, which will have a positive impact on spreads and margins as we move through the third quarter.

Scot Jafroodi: Looking ahead, we expect a modest increase in inventory as we move into the seasonal busy period, positioning us to support higher shipment volumes. Additionally, our inventories at the end of Q2 were valued at an average unit cost that approximates our Q2 cost of sales and remains favorable relative to current replacement costs, which will have a positive impact on spreads and margins as we move through Q3. We incurred $4.4 million in capital expenditures in the quarter for a total of $5.9 million through H1 of our fiscal year, and we remain committed to our full-year target of $20 million. Finally, from a liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $15.1 million of cash on hand and no borrowings outstanding on our $100 million revolving credit facility, providing us ample liquidity and financial flexibility going forward.

Speaker #3: The architectural billing index was typically leads non-residential construction activity by approximately 9 to 12 months, improved to 49.4 in February from 43.8 in January.

Speaker #3: While the index remained below the break-even level of 50, the improvement indicates that the rate of contraction moderated with fewer firms reporting declining billings compared with the prior year.

Scot R. Jafroodi: While the index remained below the break-even level of 50, the improvement indicates that the rate of contraction moderated, with fewer firms reporting declining billings compared with the prior year. Additionally, the Dodge Momentum Index, which tracks nonresidential building projects entering the planning phase, increased 1.8% in March. The gain was driven by a 7% improvement in commercial planning activity, which continues to be supported by strong data center construction. Monthly construction spending from the US Department of Commerce suggests only modest growth in overall activity. In January, total construction spending on a seasonally adjusted annualized basis increased approximately 1% year over year. Non-residential spending was essentially flat during the period, with public highway and street construction, one of our key end-use markets, remaining comparably stronger, increasing around 4% from the prior year.

Scot Jafroodi: While the index remained below the break-even level of 50, the improvement indicates that the rate of contraction moderated, with fewer firms reporting declining billings compared with the prior year. Additionally, the Dodge Momentum Index, which tracks nonresidential building projects entering the planning phase, increased 1.8% in March. The gain was driven by a 7% improvement in commercial planning activity, which continues to be supported by strong data center construction. Monthly construction spending from the US Department of Commerce suggests only modest growth in overall activity. In January, total construction spending on a seasonally adjusted annualized basis increased approximately 1% year over year. Non-residential spending was essentially flat during the period, with public highway and street construction, one of our key end-use markets, remaining comparably stronger, increasing around 4% from the prior year.

Speaker #1: We incurred $4.4 million in capital expenditures in the quarter, for a total of $5.9 million through the first half of our fiscal year, and we remain committed to our full-year target of $20 million.

Speaker #3: Additionally, the DOJ amendment index was tracked non-residential building projects entering the planning phase, increased 1.8% in March. The gain was driven by a 7% improvement in commercial planning activity, which continues to be supported by strong data center construction.

Speaker #1: Finally, from a liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $15.1 million in cash on hand and no borrowing outstanding on our $100 million revolving credit facility.

Speaker #1: Regarding us, ample liquidity and financial flexibility going forward. Turning to the macroeconomic indicators for our construction end markets, the latest readings from our two leading measures—the Architectural Billing Index and the Dodge Amendment Index—point to an environment that remains uneven, but generally stable.

Speaker #3: Monthly construction spending from the US Department of Commerce suggests only modest growth in overall activity. In January, total construction spending on a seasonally adjusted annualized basis increased approximately 1% year over year.

Scot Jafroodi: Turning to the macroeconomic indicators for our construction end markets. The latest readings from our two leading measures, the Architectural Billing Index and the Dodge Momentum Index, point to an environment that remains uneven but generally stable. The Architectural Billing Index, which typically leads non-residential construction activity by approximately nine to 12 months, improved to 49.4 in February from 43.8 in January. While the index remained below the break-even level of 50, the improvement indicates that the rate of contraction moderated, with fewer firms reporting declining billings compared with the prior year. Additionally, the Dodge Momentum Index, which tracks non-residential building projects entering the planning phase, increased 1.8% in March. The gain was driven by a 7% improvement in commercial planning activity, which continues to be supported by strong data center construction.

Speaker #3: Non-residential spending was essentially flat during the period with public highway and street construction, one of our key end-use markets, remaining comparatively stronger, increasing around 4% from the prior year.

Speaker #1: The architectural billing index was typically leads non-residential construction activity by approximately 9 to 12 months, improved to 49.4 in February, from 43.8 in January.

Speaker #3: As we close out the second quarter, we remain encouraged by the demand trends we're seeing across our quarter-end markets. While the broader macroeconomic backdrop continues to evolve, including the risk of renewed inflation, uncertainty around the timing of interest rate cuts, potential changes in tariff policy, and the geopolitical developments affecting energy and shipping costs, our customers remain engaged in product project activity, continue to move forward.

Scot R. Jafroodi: As we close out the Q2, we remain encouraged by the demand trends we're seeing across our core end markets. While the broader macroeconomic backdrop continues to evolve, including the risk of renewed inflation, uncertainty around the timing of interest rate cuts, potential changes in tariff policy, and the geopolitical developments affecting energy and shipping costs, our customers remain engaged and project activity continue to move forward. Our ongoing dialogue with customers, combined with recent improvements to several leading indicators, support our confidence in the direction of the business. At the same time, we recognize that these external factors could influence the pace of activity in the near term. Even so, underlying demand conditions remain healthy, and we believe we are well-positioned as we move through the H2 of the fiscal year. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to H.

Scot Jafroodi: As we close out the Q2, we remain encouraged by the demand trends we're seeing across our core end markets. While the broader macroeconomic backdrop continues to evolve, including the risk of renewed inflation, uncertainty around the timing of interest rate cuts, potential changes in tariff policy, and the geopolitical developments affecting energy and shipping costs, our customers remain engaged and project activity continue to move forward. Our ongoing dialogue with customers, combined with recent improvements to several leading indicators, support our confidence in the direction of the business. At the same time, we recognize that these external factors could influence the pace of activity in the near term. Even so, underlying demand conditions remain healthy, and we believe we are well-positioned as we move through the H2 of the fiscal year. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to H.

Speaker #1: While the index remained below the break-even level of 50, the improvement indicates that the rate of contraction moderated with fewer firms reporting declining billings compared with the prior year.

Speaker #1: Additionally, the Dodge Amendment Index was tracked non-residential building projects entering the planning phase, increased 1.8% in March. The gain was driven by a 7% improvement in commercial planning activity, which continues to be supported by strong data center construction.

Speaker #3: Our ongoing dialogue with customers, combined with recent improvements several leading indicators, support our confidence in the direction of the business. At the same time, we recognize that these external factors could influence the pace of activity in the near term, even so underlying demand conditions remain healthy, and we believe we are well positioned as we move through the second half of the fiscal year.

Speaker #1: Monthly construction spending from the US Department of Commerce suggests only modest growth in overall activity. In January total construction spending on a seasonally adjusted annualized basis increased approximately 1% year over year.

Scot Jafroodi: Monthly construction spending from the US Department of Commerce suggests only modest growth in overall activity. In January, total construction spending on a seasonally adjusted annualized basis increased approximately 1% year-over-year. Non-residential spending was essentially flat during the period, with public highway and street construction, one of our key end-use markets, remaining comparatively stronger, increasing around 4% from the prior year. As we close out Q2, we remain encouraged by the demand trends we're seeing across our core end markets. While the broader macroeconomic backdrop continues to evolve, including the risk of renewed inflation, uncertainty around the timing of interest rate cuts, potential changes in tariff policy, and the geopolitical developments affecting energy and shipping costs, our customers remain engaged, and project activity continue to move forward. Our ongoing dialogue with customers, combined with recent improvements in several leading indicators, support our confidence in the direction of the business.

Speaker #1: Non-residential spending was essentially flat during the period, with public highway and street construction, one of our key end-use markets, remaining comparatively stronger, increasing around 4% from the prior year.

Speaker #3: That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to H.

Speaker #4: Thank you, Scott. As I noted in my opening comments, we were affected during Q2 by weather-related and non-weather-related circumstances that resulted in our operating rate, shipments, and financial performance falling short of expectations.

H.O. Woltz III: Thank you, Scott. As I noted in my opening comments, we were affected during Q2 by weather-related and non-weather-related circumstances that resulted in our operating rates, shipments, and financial performance falling short of expectations. Making matters worse, we had staffed up at certain facilities ahead of the seasonally more active part of our year in anticipation of expanding operating hours, which would reduce lead times and result in increased shipments. We carried the cost of ramping up through the quarter, but were unable to operate at expected levels. While we continue to believe that demand will be solid during 2026, we will reduce costs if this forecast fails to materialize. At this point, however, we do not expect to be in a cost reduction mode driven by demand-related concerns.

Speaker #1: As we close out the second quarter, we remain encouraged by the demand trends we're seeing across our quarter-end markets. While the broader macroeconomic backdrop continues to evolve, including the risk of renewed inflation, uncertainty around the timing of interest rate cuts, potential changes in tariff policy, and the geopolitical developments affecting energy and shipping costs, our customers remain engaged in product project activity, continue to move forward.

Speaker #4: Making matters worse, we had staffed up at certain facilities ahead of the seasonally more active part of our year in anticipation of expanding operating hours, which would reduce lead times and result in increased shipments.

Speaker #1: Our ongoing dialogue with customers, combined with recent improvements several leading indicators, support our confidence in the direction of the business. At the same time, we recognize that these external factors could influence the pace of activity in the near term, even so underlying demand conditions remain healthy, and we believe we are well positioned as we move through the second half of the fiscal year.

Speaker #4: So we carried the cost of ramping up through the quarter, but were unable to operate at expected levels. While we continue to believe that demand will be solid during 2026, we will reduce costs if this forecast fails to materialize.

Scot Jafroodi: At the same time, we recognize that these external factors could influence the pace of activity in the near term. Even so, underlying demand conditions remain healthy, and we believe we are well-positioned as we move through the H2 of the fiscal year. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to H.

Speaker #4: At this point, however, we do not expect to be in a cost reduction mode driven by demand-related concerns. Turning to another subject, the steel industry may have been more affected by the administration's tariff policy than any other industry.

Speaker #1: That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to Age.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Scott. As I noted in my opening comments, we were affected during Q2 by weather-related and non-weather-related circumstances that resulted in our operating rate, shipments, and financial performance falling short of expectations.

H.O. Woltz III: Thank you, Scott. As I noted in my opening comments, we were affected during Q2 by weather-related and non-weather-related circumstances that resulted in our operating rate, shipments, and financial performance falling short of expectations. Making matters worse, we had staffed up at certain facilities ahead of the seasonally more active part of our year in anticipation of expanding operating hours, which would reduce lead times and result in increased shipments. We carried the cost of ramping up through the quarter, but were unable to operate at expected levels. While we continue to believe that demand will be solid during 2026, we will reduce costs if this forecast fails to materialize. At this point, however, we do not expect to be in a cost reduction mode driven by demand-related concerns.

H.O. Woltz III: Turning to another subject, the steel industry may have been more affected by the administration's tariff policy than any other industry. The Section 232 tariff of 50% on imports of steel has caused market prices in the US for hot-rolled wire rod, our primary raw material, to rise to a level that's 50% to 100% over the global market price. While last summer we questioned the effectiveness of the derivative products tariff strategy implemented by the administration, we are glad to report a significant decline in the volume of imported PC strand that has entered the US since the tariff was increased to 50% and derivative products, including PC strand, were covered. From August to December, the five-month period following the changes the administration made to the Section 232 tariff regime, PC strand imports fell by more than 50%.

Speaker #4: The Section 232 tariff of 50% on imports of steel has caused market prices in the US for hot-rolled wire rod, our primary raw material, to rise to a level that's 50 to 100 percent over the global market price.

Speaker #2: Making matters worse, we had staffed up at certain facilities ahead of the seasonally more active part of our year in anticipation of expanding operating hours, which would reduce lead times and result in increased shipments.

Speaker #4: While last summer we questioned the effectiveness of the derivative products tariff strategy implemented by the administration, we are glad to report a significant decline in the volume of imported PC strand that has entered the US since the tariff was increased to 50% and derivative products, including PC strand, were covered.

Speaker #2: So we carried the cost of ramping up through the quarter, but were unable to operate at expected levels. While we continue to believe that demand will be solid during 2026, we will reduce costs if this forecast fails to materialize.

Speaker #2: At this point, however, we do not expect to be in a cost reduction mode driven by demand-related concerns. Turning to another subject, the steel industry may have been more affected by the administration's tariff policy than any other industry.

Speaker #4: From August to December, the five-month period following the changes the administration made to the Section 232 tariff regime PC strand imports fell by more than 50%.

H.O. Woltz III: Turning to another subject, the steel industry may have been more affected by the administration's tariff policy than any other industry. The Section 232 tariff of 50% on imports of steel has caused market prices in the US for hot-rolled wire rod, our primary raw material, to rise to a level that's 50% to 100% over the global market price. While last summer, we questioned the effectiveness of the derivative products tariff strategy implemented by the administration, we are glad to report a significant decline in the volume of imported PC strand that has entered the US since the tariff was increased to 50% and derivative products, including PC strand, were covered. From August to December, the five-month period following the changes the administration made to the Section 232 tariff regime, PC strand imports fell by more than 50%.

Speaker #4: The application of the Section 232 tariff to PC strand together with global uncertainty and higher transportation insurance and insurance costs related to the conflict with Iran clearly work in the favor of the domestic industry.

Speaker #2: The Section 232 tariff of 50% on imports of steel has caused market prices in the US for hot-rolled wire rod, our primary raw material, to rise to a level that's 50 to 100 percent over the global market price.

H.O. Woltz III: The application of the Section 232 tariff to PC strand, together with global uncertainty and higher transportation insurance and insurance costs related to the conflict with Iran, clearly work in the favor of the domestic industry. Turning to the raw material environment, investors should understand that Insteel operates in a small segment of the domestic hot-rolled carbon steel market. Domestic production of steel wire rod, our primary raw material, is approximately 3.5 million tons per year, while US production of all hot-rolled carbon steel is roughly 100 million tons per year. Difficult economic conditions in recent years for producers of hot-rolled wire rod resulted in the permanent closure of two producing mills and financial struggles, together with significantly diminished output for a third producer.

Speaker #4: Turning to the raw material environment, investors should understand that in-steel operates in a small segment of the domestic hot-rolled carbon steel market. Domestic production of steel wire rod, our primary raw material, is approximately 3.5 million tons per year, while US production of all hot-rolled carbon steel is roughly 100 million tons per year.

Speaker #2: While last summer we questioned the effectiveness of the derivative products tariff strategy implemented by the administration, we are glad to report a significant decline in the volume of imported PC strand that has entered the US since the tariff was increased to 50% and derivative products, including PC strand, were covered.

Speaker #2: From August to December, the five-month period following the changes the administration made to the Section 232 tariff regime PC strand imports fell by more than 50%.

Speaker #4: Difficult economic conditions in recent years for producers of hot-rolled wire rod resulted in the permanent closure of two producing mills and financial struggles together with significantly diminished output for third producer.

Speaker #2: The application of the Section 232 tariff to PC strand, together with global uncertainty and higher transportation and insurance costs related to the conflict with Iran, clearly work in the favor of the domestic industry.

Speaker #4: Altogether, these curtailments reduced actual domestic production of wire rod by more than 800,000 tons per year, and reduced domestic capacity to produce wire rod by nearly 1.2 million tons per year, relative to apparent domestic consumption of wire rod of approximately 5 million tons per year.

H.O. Woltz III: Altogether, these curtailments reduced actual domestic production of wire rod by more than 800,000 tons per year and reduced domestic capacity to produce wire rod by nearly 1.2 million tons per year, relative to apparent domestic consumption of wire rod of approximately 5 million tons per year. By our calculation, capacity equal to nearly 20% of apparent domestic consumption is offline, most of it permanently. These capacity curtailments, together with changes to the Section 232 tariff, caused the US market for wire rod to tighten significantly and created serious questions about the adequacy of domestic supply. Insteel, therefore, was forced to turn to the offshore market for a portion of its supply. The economics of offshore transactions, which include substantial freight costs, require the purchase of large quantities with resulting impact on inventories and net working capital requirements, as reflected on our balance sheet.

Speaker #2: Turning to the raw material environment, investors should understand that in-steel operates in a small segment of the domestic hot-rolled carbon steel market. Domestic production of steel wire rod, our primary raw material, is approximately 3.5 million tons per year, while US production of all hot-rolled carbon steel is roughly 100 million tons per year.

Speaker #4: So by our calculation, capacity equal to nearly 20% of apparent domestic consumption is offline, most of it permanently. These capacity curtailments together with changes to the Section 232 tariff caused the US market for wire rod to tighten significantly and created serious questions about the adequacy of domestic supply.

Speaker #2: Difficult economic conditions in recent years for producers of hot-rolled wire rod resulted in the permanent closure of two producing mills and financial struggles, together with significantly diminished output, for a third producer.

Speaker #4: In-steel, therefore, was forced to turn to the offshore market for a portion of its supply. The economics of offshore freight costs, require the purchase of large quantities with resulting impact on inventories and networking capital requirements as reflected on our balance sheet.

Speaker #2: Altogether, these curtailments reduced actual domestic production of wire rod by more than 800,000 tons per year, and reduced domestic capacity to produce wire rod by nearly 1.2 million tons per year, relative to apparent domestic consumption of wire rod of approximately 5 million tons per year.

H.O. Woltz III: Altogether, these curtailments reduced actual domestic production of wire rod by more than 800,000 tons per year and reduced domestic capacity to produce wire rod by nearly 1.2 million tons per year relative to apparent domestic consumption of wire rod of approximately 5 million tons per year. By our calculation, capacity equal to nearly 20% of apparent domestic consumption is offline, most of it permanently. These capacity curtailments, together with changes to the Section 232 tariff, caused the US market for wire rod to tighten significantly and created serious questions about the adequacy of domestic supply. Insteel, therefore, was forced to turn to the offshore market for a portion of its supply. The economics of offshore transactions, which include substantial freight costs, require the purchase of large quantities with resulting impact on inventories and net working capital requirements as reflected on our balance sheet.

Speaker #4: Networking capital rose approximately 45 million over the last 12 months. We will continue to import a portion of our raw material requirements until such time as domestic availability improves.

H.O. Woltz III: Net working capital rose approximately $45 million over the last 12 months. We will continue to import a portion of our raw material requirements until such time as domestic availability improves, and we will incur excess net working capital requirements as compared to purchasing domestically, although we have some options to mitigate this adverse impact. Finally, turning to CapEx, as mentioned in the release, we expect to invest approximately $20 million in our plants and information systems infrastructure during 2026. Our investments will support the growth of our engineered structural mesh business, reduce our cash production costs, and enhance the robust nature of our information systems. Consistent with past practice, we'll provide quarterly updates on our investment activities and expectations as the year progresses. Looking ahead, we're aware of the substantial risk related to the state of the economy and the administration's tariff policies.

Speaker #2: So, by our calculation, capacity equal to nearly 20% of apparent domestic consumption is offline—most of it permanently. These capacity curtailments, together with changes to the Section 232 tariff, caused the U.S. market for wire rod to tighten significantly and created serious questions about the adequacy of domestic supply.

Speaker #4: And we will incur excess networking capital requirements as compared to purchasing domestically, although we have some options to mitigate this adverse impact. Finally, turning to CAPEX, as mentioned in the release, we expect to invest approximately $20 million in our plants and information systems infrastructure during 2026.

Speaker #2: In-steel, therefore, was forced to turn to the offshore market for a portion of its supply. The economics of offshore transactions, which includes substantial freight costs, require the purchase of large quantities with resulting impact on inventories and networking capital requirements as reflected on our balance sheet.

Speaker #4: Our investments will support the growth of our engineered structural mesh business, reduce our cash production costs, and enhance the robust nature of our information systems.

Speaker #4: Consistent with past practice, we'll provide quarterly updates on our investment activities and expectations as the year progresses. Looking ahead, we're aware of the substantial risk related to the state of the economy and the administration's tariff policies, regardless of developments in these areas.

H.O. Woltz III: Net working capital rose approximately $45 million over the last 12 months. We will continue to import a portion of our raw material requirements until such time as domestic availability improves, and we will incur excess net working capital requirements as compared to purchasing domestically, although we have some options to mitigate this adverse impact. Finally, turning to CapEx. As mentioned in the release, we expect to invest approximately $20 million in our plants and information systems infrastructure during 2026. Our investments will support the growth of our engineered structural mesh business, reduce our cash production costs, and enhance the robust nature of our information systems. Consistent with past practice, we'll provide quarterly updates on our investment activities and expectations as the year progresses. Looking ahead, we're aware of the substantial risk related to the state of the economy and the administration's tariff policies.

Speaker #2: Networking capital rose approximately 45 million over the last 12 months. We will continue to import a portion of our raw material requirements until such time as domestic availability improves.

H.O. Woltz III: Regardless of developments in these areas, we are well-positioned to pursue growth-related activities, both organic and through acquisition, and to pursue actions to optimize our costs. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we'll now take your questions. Becky, would you please explain the procedure for asking questions?

Speaker #2: And we will incur excess net working capital requirements as compared to purchasing domestically, although we have some options to mitigate this adverse impact. Finally, turning to CapEx, as mentioned in the release, we expect to invest approximately $20 million in our plants and information systems infrastructure during 2026.

Speaker #4: We are well positioned to pursue growth-related activities both organic and through acquisition, and to pursue actions to optimize our costs. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we'll now take your questions.

Speaker #4: Becky, would you please explain the procedure for asking questions?

Speaker #1: Of course. If you would like to ask a question, please press start, followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you feel your question has been answered or for any reason you would like to remove yourself from the queue, please press start, followed by two.

Operator: Of course. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you feel your question has been answered or for any reason you would like to remove yourself from the queue, please press star followed by two. When asking your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Julio Romero from Sidoti. The line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Our investments will support the growth of our engineered structural mesh business, reduce our cash production costs, and enhance the robust nature of our information systems.

Speaker #1: When asking your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Julio Romero from Sidoti. The line is now open.

Speaker #2: Consistent with past practice, we'll provide quarterly updates on our investment activities and expectations as the year progresses. Looking ahead, we're aware of the substantial risk related to the state of the economy and the administration's tariff policies, regardless of developments in these areas.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Kay. Good morning, agent Scott. Let's start on.

Julio Romero: Thanks. Hey, good morning, H and Scott.

H.O. Woltz III: Good morning. Good morning, Julio.

H.O. Woltz III: Good morning.

Scot Jafroodi: Good morning, Julio.

Speaker #2: We are well positioned to pursue growth-related activities, both organic and through acquisition, and to pursue actions to optimize our costs. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we'll now take your questions.

Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. Can we start on volumes a bit and talk a bit about the projects originally scheduled for the quarter that were delayed into later quarters?

Julio Romero: Hey, good morning. Can we start on volumes a bit and talk a bit about the projects originally scheduled for the quarter that were delayed into later quarters? Any way you could help us better understand, excuse me, how much of this may have weighed on your shipments? Secondly, if you could expand on the drivers of the project delays. I think you mentioned they were unrelated to weather. Was hoping you could elaborate there a little bit.

Speaker #4: Any way you could help us better understand, excuse me, how much of this was weighed on may have weighed on your shipments? And secondly, if you could expand on the drivers of the project delays.

Speaker #2: Becky, would you please explain the procedure for asking questions?

Speaker #1: Of course. If you would like to ask a question, please press star, followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you feel your question has been answered, or for any reason you would like to remove yourself from the queue, please press star, followed by two.

Speaker #4: I think you mentioned they were unrelated to weather. I was hoping you could elaborate there a little bit.

Speaker #5: Well, so if you can envision a construction project that the owner and contractor would like to start the project and operate continuously until the finish of the project or a portion of the project.

H.O. Woltz III: Well, if you can envision a construction project that the owner and contractor would like to start the project and operate continuously until the finish of the project or a portion of the project. They don't want to open up Mother Earth two months ahead of having all of their other needed materials and suppliers in line. Therefore, the project that we're involved in was delayed and we should begin shipping it in the current quarter. The delays are unfortunate, but I don't think they're surprising at all. As we try to emphasize, this is a delay of business. It's not a cancellation. We'll have to sit tight and see that come to fruition in the current quarter. This project will go through our fiscal year and into 2027.

Speaker #1: When asking your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Julio Romero from Sidoti. The line is now open.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: But they don't want to open up Mother Earth two months ahead of having all of their other needed materials and suppliers in line. And so therefore, the project that we're involved in was delayed and should we should begin shipping it in the current quarter.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Kay. Good morning, agent Scott. Let's start on.

Julio Romero: Thanks. Hey, good morning, H and Scott.

H.O. Woltz III: Good morning.

Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. Can we start on volumes a bit and talk a bit about the projects originally scheduled for the quarter that were delayed into later quarters?

Julio Romero: Can we start on volumes a bit and talk a bit about the projects originally scheduled for the quarter that were delayed into later quarters? Any way you can help us better understand, excuse me, how much of this may have weighed on your shipments? And secondly, if you could expand on the drivers of the project delays? I think you mentioned they were unrelated to weather. Just hoping you could elaborate there a little bit.

Speaker #5: The delays are unfortunate, but I don't think they're surprising at all. And as we try to emphasize, this is a delay of business. It's not a cancellation.

Speaker #4: I think you mentioned they were unrelated to weather. I was hoping you could elaborate there a little bit. Well, so if you can envision a construction project that the owner and contractor would like to start the project and operate continuously until the finish of the project or a portion of the project.

H.O. Woltz III: Well, if you can envision a construction project that the owner and contractor would like to start the project and operate continuously until the finish of the project or a portion of the project, but they don't want to open up mother earth, two months ahead of having all of their other needed materials and suppliers in line. Therefore, the project that we're involved in was delayed and we should begin shipping it in the current quarter. The delays are unfortunate, but I don't think they're surprising at all. As we try to emphasize, this is a delay of business. It's not a cancellation. We'll have to sit tight and see that come to fruition in the current quarter. This project will go through our fiscal year and into 2027.

Speaker #5: So we'll just have to sit tight and see that come to fruition in the current quarter. And this project will go through our fiscal year and into 2027.

Speaker #4: But they don't want to open up Mother Earth two months ahead of having all of their other needed materials and suppliers in line. And so therefore, the project that we're involved in was delayed and should we should begin shipping it in the current quarter.

Speaker #4: Okay, great. Very helpful. And you talked about April shipments trending above forecasted levels. Just what's your sense of how much those shipments are related to the project delays pushed to the right?

Julio Romero: Okay, great. Very helpful. You talked about April shipments trending above forecasted levels. Just what's your sense of how much those shipments are related to the project delays pushed to the right? Maybe some catch-up from the February weather delays or any other underlying demand trends that are afoot there.

Speaker #4: Maybe some catch-up from the February weather delays or any other underlying demand trends that are afoot there?

Speaker #5: I don't think any of it is related to project delays because it's still delayed. And we should see some benefits later in the quarter of that.

H.O. Woltz III: I don't think any of it is related to project delays because it's still delayed. We should see some benefits later in the quarter of that. The current performance and current shipping performance is pretty solid relative to our expectations, and our prices are coming up as we expected them to.

Speaker #4: The delays are unfortunate, but I don't think they're surprising at all. And as we try to emphasize this is a delay of business, it's not a cancellation.

Speaker #5: But the current performance and current shipping performance is pretty solid, relative to our expectations. And our prices are coming up as we expected them to.

Speaker #4: So we'll just have to sit tight and see that come to fruition in the current quarter. And this project will go through our fiscal year and into 2027.

Speaker #4: Okay, perfect. And maybe last one for me here is you talked about project mix a little bit. Impacting the ASP numbers, the other numbers.

Julio Romero: Okay, perfect. Maybe last one for me here is, you talked about project mix a little bit impacting the ASP numbers, the other numbers within your release. Can you talk a little bit about where ESM mix stands today?

Speaker #3: Okay, great. Very helpful. And then you talked about April shipments trending above forecasted levels. Just what's your sense of how much those shipments are related to the project delays pushed to the right, maybe some catch-up from the February weather delays or any other underlying demand trends that are afoot there?

Julio Romero: Okay, great. Very helpful. Then you talked about April shipments trending above forecasted levels. Just what's your sense of how much those shipments are related to the project delays pushed to the right? Maybe some catch-up from the February weather delays or any other underlying demand trends that are afoot there.

Speaker #4: Within your release, can you talk a little bit about where ESM mix stands today?

Speaker #5: Ask that question again, Julio.

H.O. Woltz III: Ask that question again, Julio.

Speaker #4: I don't think any of it is related to project delays because it's still delayed. And we should see some benefits later in the quarter of that.

Speaker #4: Yep. Just talk a little bit about this is the second quarter where we're talking about project mix kind of impacting the ASP number and maybe the spread number.

Julio Romero: Yep. Just talk a little bit about this is Q2 where we're talking about project mix kind of impacting the ASP number and maybe the spread number. If you could just talk a little bit about whether ESM is playing a factor in that at all, and just broadly where ESM mix kind of stands at the moment.

Speaker #4: But the current performance and current shipping performance are pretty solid relative to our expectations. And our prices are coming up as we expected them to.

Speaker #4: If you could just talk a little bit about whether ESM is playing a factor in that at all and just broadly where ESM mix kind of stands at the moment.

H.O. Woltz III: Let me start at the beginning so you'll understand the difficulty that we have in trying to quantify some of these things, and also why we don't spend a lot of time on trying to dissect the reality of the market. If you'll recall, in February, the adverse winter weather began in Texas and ended up in New England. That means that it affected 9 of our 11 facilities, which is pretty unfortunate, but it's just the way it happened. We had issues in various geographies of various types. In some cases, we had roads that were not passable or stayed hazardous for extended periods of time. The other reality, setting aside road conditions and moving around, is that when it's very cold, you can't pour concrete. Various people have various opinions about the level or the temperature at which hydration becomes a big concern.

Speaker #5: Let me start at the beginning. So you'll understand the difficulty that we have in trying to quantify some of these things and also why we don't spend a lot of time on trying to dissect the reality of the market.

Speaker #3: Okay, perfect. And maybe last one for me here is you talked about project mix a little bit. Impacting the ASP numbers, the other numbers.

Julio Romero: Okay, perfect. Maybe last one for me here is you talked about project mix a little bit impacting the ASP numbers, the other numbers within your release. Can you talk a little bit about where ESM Mix stands today?

Speaker #3: Within your release, can you talk a little bit about where ESM mix stands today?

Speaker #5: But if you'll recall, in February, the adverse winter weather began in Texas and ended up in New England. That means that it affected nine of our 11 facilities, which is pretty unfortunate.

H.O. Woltz III: Ask that question again, Julio.

Speaker #4: Ask that question again, Julio.

Speaker #3: Yep. Just talk a little bit about this is the second quarter where we're talking about project mix kind of impacting the ASP number and maybe the spread number.

Julio Romero: Yep. Just talk a little bit about, this is Q2 where we're talking about project mix kind of impacting the ASP number and maybe the spread number. If you could just talk a little bit about whether ESM is playing a factor in that at all, and just broadly where ESM mix kind of stands at the moment.

Speaker #5: But it's just the way it happened. So we had issues in various geographies of various types in some cases. We had roads that were not passable or stayed hazardous for extended periods of time.

Speaker #3: If you could just talk a little bit about whether ESM is playing a factor in that at all, and just broadly where the ESM mix kind of stands at the moment.

Speaker #4: Absolutely. Let me start at the beginning so you'll understand the difficulty that we have in trying to quantify some of these things, and also why we don't spend a lot of time trying to dissect the reality of the market.

H.O. Woltz III: Let me start at the beginning so you'll understand the difficulty that we have in trying to quantify some of these things and also why we don't spend a lot of time on trying to dissect the reality of the market. If you'll recall, in February, the adverse winter weather began in Texas and ended up in New England. That means that it affected 9 of our 11 facilities, which is pretty unfortunate, but it's just the way it happened. We had issues in various geographies of various types. In some cases, we had roads that were not passable or stayed hazardous for extended periods of time. The other reality, setting aside road conditions and moving around, is that when it's very cold, you can't pour concrete. Various people have various opinions about the level or the temperature at which hydration becomes a big concern.

Speaker #5: But the other reality setting aside road conditions and moving around is that when it's very, very cold, you can't pour concrete. Various people have various opinions about the level or the temperature at which hydration becomes a big concern.

Speaker #4: But if you'll recall, in February, the adverse winter weather began in Texas and ended up in New England. That means that it affected nine of our 11 facilities, which is pretty unfortunate.

Speaker #5: But suffice it to say, at low temperatures, pouring concrete becomes not feasible. So in North Carolina, for instance, we had multiple weeks of cold weather where I don't think the temperature ever broke freezing.

H.O. Woltz III: Suffice it to say, at low temperatures, pouring concrete becomes not feasible. In North Carolina, for instance, we had multiple weeks of cold weather where I don't think the temperature ever broke freezing. While the roads were impassable for a period of time, the temperature staying low were probably of more significance. I guess the reality is we didn't go through every customer and every plant and try to quantify the impact. We're more concerned about getting our plants operating and covering the eventual demand that would come back as weather conditions improved.

Speaker #4: But it's just the way it happened. So, we had issues in various geographies of various types. In some cases, we had roads that were not passable or stayed hazardous for extended periods of time.

Speaker #5: And while the roads weren't unpassable for a period of time, the temperature stayed low. We're probably a more significant so I guess the reality is we didn't go through every customer and every plant and try to quantify the impact were more concerned about getting our plants operating and covering the eventual demand that would come back as weather conditions improved.

Speaker #4: But the other reality setting aside road conditions and moving around is that when it's very, very cold, you can't pour concrete. Various people have various opinions about the level or the temperature at which hydration becomes a big concern.

Speaker #4: But suffice it to say, at low temperatures, pouring concrete becomes not feasible. So in North Carolina, for instance, we had multiple weeks of cold weather where I don't think the temperature ever broke freezing.

H.O. Woltz III: Suffice it to say, at low temperatures, pouring concrete becomes not feasible. In North Carolina, for instance, we had multiple weeks of cold weather where I don't think the temperature ever broke freezing. While the roads were unpassable for a period of time, the temperature staying low were probably of more significance. I guess the reality is we didn't go through every customer and every plant and try to quantify the impact. We're more concerned about getting our plants operating and covering the eventual demand that would come back as weather conditions improved.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyson Bauer from KC Capital. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyson Bauer from KC Capital. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: And while the roads weren't unpassable for a period of time, the temperature stayed low. We're probably of more significance. So I guess the reality is we didn't go through every customer and every plant and try to quantify the impact; we're more concerned about getting our plants operating and covering the eventual demand that would come back as weather conditions improved.

Speaker #5: All right. Thank you. And good morning, gentlemen.

Tyson Bauer: All right. Thank you, and good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker #6: Good morning, Tyson.

H.O. Woltz III: Good morning, Tyson.

Tyson Bauer: When you talk about the freight expenses, are there two considerations there? The increased freight cost to get your inputted supplies in on the imported side as far as your inventories, that you're looking where you have to absorb per se, as opposed to making shipments from your facilities that maybe you're able to do surcharges and recoup those freight costs, even though it may be at zero margin, but you're getting it in the revenue line there. Is there two different pots here on the freight charges, one you have to absorb and the other that you can pass along?

Speaker #5: When you talk about the freight expenses, are there two considerations there? The increased freight cost to get your inputted supplies in on the imported side as far as your inventories that you're looking where you have to absorb per se as opposed to making shipments from your facilities that maybe you're able to do surcharges and recoup those freight costs even though it may be at zero margin?

Speaker #5: But you're getting in the revenue line there. So is there two different pods here on the freight charges? One you have to absorb and the other that you can pass along?

Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyson Bauer from KC Capital. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyson Bauer from KC Capital. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

H.O. Woltz III: I wouldn't look at it that way, Tyson. In terms of the raw materials that we're importing, we're very well located for inbound freight cost purposes if you were to compare that to our locations relative to domestic suppliers. I don't think we incur any excess inbound freight costs because we're importing. Now, freight costs, whether inbound or outbound, have risen substantially following the conflict in Iran. It happened extremely quickly, and it coincided with the immigration efforts of the administration that took thousands of truck drivers off the road who couldn't speak English. Without commenting on good, bad, or indifferent, the practical impact of those two things are much higher diesel costs and far fewer drivers has meant that our costs have gone up. It also means that many of our loads have been rejected by carriers who we could count on in the past.

Speaker #6: I wouldn't look at it that way, Tyson. In terms of the raw materials that were importing, we're very well located for inbound freight cost purposes.

Speaker #4: All right. Thank you, and good morning, gentlemen.

Tyson Bauer: All right. Thank you, and good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker #6: Good morning, Tyson.

H.O. Woltz III: Good morning, Tyson.

Tyson Bauer: When you talk about the freight expenses, are there two considerations there? The increased freight cost to get your input supplies in on the imported side as far as your inventories, where you have to absorb per se, as opposed to making shipments from your facilities that maybe you're able to do surcharges and recoup those freight costs, even though it may be at zero margin, but you're getting it on the revenue line there. Are there two different pots here on the freight charges, one you have to absorb and the other that you can pass along?

Speaker #4: When you talk about the freight expenses, are there two considerations there? The increased freight cost to get your inputted supplies in on the imported side, as far as your inventories, that you're looking at, where you have to absorb, per se, as opposed to making shipments from your facilities, where maybe you're able to do surcharges and recoup those freight costs, even though it may be at zero margin, but you're getting it in the revenue line there.

Speaker #6: If you were to compare that to our locations relative to domestic supplies. So I don't think we incur any excess inbound freight costs because we're importing.

Speaker #6: Now, freight costs, whether inbound or outbound, have risen substantially following the conflict in Iran. And it happened extremely quickly. And it coincided with the immigration efforts of the administration that took thousands of truck drivers off the road who couldn't speak English.

Speaker #4: So is there two different pods here on the freight charges? One you have to absorb and the other that you can pass along?

H.O. Woltz III: I wouldn't look at it that way, Tyson. In terms of the raw materials that we're importing, we're very well located for inbound freight cost purposes if you were to compare that to our locations relative to domestic suppliers. I don't think we incur any excess inbound freight costs because we're importing. Now, freight costs, whether inbound or outbound, have risen substantially following the conflict in Ukraine. It happened extremely quickly, and it coincided with the immigration efforts of the administration that took thousands of truck drivers off the road who couldn't speak English. Without commenting on good, bad, or indifferent, the practical impact of those two things of much higher diesel costs and far fewer drivers has meant that our costs have gone up.

Speaker #6: I wouldn't look at it that way, Tyson. In terms of the raw materials that we're importing, we're very well located for inbound freight cost purposes if you were to compare that to our locations relative to domestic supplies.

Speaker #6: And without commenting on good, bad, or indifferent, the practical impact of those two things are much higher diesel costs and far fewer drivers has meant that our costs have gone up.

Speaker #6: And it also means that many of our loads have been rejected by carriers who we could count on in the past. And they reject loads because they can find one that pays more.

Speaker #6: So I don't think we incur any excess inbound freight costs because we're importing. Now, freight costs, whether inbound or outbound, have risen substantially following the conflict in Iran.

H.O. Woltz III: They reject loads because they can find one that pays more. Certainly, we're working through those issues. I was reading just recently that in the flatbed sector of the freight market, more than 40% of loads tendered to carriers have been rejected. That's not just in our industry, that's overall in the entire economy. We're dealing with something there that is out of our control, but certainly it's our responsibility to deal with it from a cost point of view. We debated surcharges or we debated price increases, and we've elected just to increase our prices.

Speaker #6: And certainly, we're working through those issues. But I was reading just recently that in the flatbed sector of the freight market, more than 40% of loads tendered to carriers have been rejected.

Speaker #6: And it happened extremely quickly. And it coincided with the immigration efforts of the administration that took thousands of truck drivers off the road who couldn't speak English.

Speaker #6: And that's not just in our industry. That's overall in the entire economy. So we're dealing with something there that is out of our control, but certainly, it's our responsibility to deal with it from a cost point of view.

Speaker #6: And, without commenting on good, bad, or indifferent, the practical impact of those two things are much higher diesel costs and far fewer drivers, which has meant that our costs have gone up.

Speaker #6: And we debated surcharges or we debated price increases and we've elected just to increase our prices.

H.O. Woltz III: It also means that many of our loads have been rejected by carriers who we could count on in the past, and they reject loads because they can find one that pays more. Certainly, we're working through those issues. I was reading just recently that in the flatbed sector of the freight market, more than 40% of loads tendered to carriers have been rejected. That's not just in our industry, that's overall in the entire economy. We're dealing with something there that is out of our control, but certainly it's our responsibility to deal with it from a cost point of view. We debated surcharges or we debated price increases, and we've elected just to increase our prices.

Speaker #6: And it also means that many of our loads have been rejected by carriers who we could count on in the past. And they reject loads because they can find one that pays more.

Speaker #5: Okay. So you are recovering those as of now?

Tyson Bauer: Okay. You are recovering those as of now?

Speaker #6: And certainly, we're working through those issues, but I would read just recently that in the flatbed sector of the freight market, more than 40% of loads tendered to carriers have been rejected.

Speaker #6: Well, I wouldn't say we recovered them prospectively. But certainly, we absorbed some of those costs until the effective date of price increases that will, among other things, serve to recover those higher costs.

H.O. Woltz III: Well, I wouldn't say we recovered them prospectively, but certainly we absorb some of those costs until the effective date of the price increases that will, among other things, serve to recover those higher costs.

Speaker #5: Okay. And regarding price increases, you've done some early in your fiscal year in Q1. You've done some. You announced in April. Any idea of magnitude of those?

Tyson Bauer: Okay. Regarding price increases, you've done some early in your fiscal year in Q1. You've done some you announced in April. Any idea of magnitude of those, and are we expecting additional price increases to try to get yourself whole?

Speaker #5: And are we expecting additional price increases to try to get yourself whole?

Speaker #6: And we debated surcharges or we debated price increases and we've elected just to increase our prices.

Speaker #6: Well, let me answer the last part of the question first. Our price increases are implemented to reflect what's happening in our marketplace, both with our raw material costs and with the other costs that we incur in our operations.

H.O. Woltz III: Let me answer the last part of the question first. Our price increases are implemented to reflect what's happening in our marketplace, both with our raw material costs and with the other costs that we incur in our operations. Addressing the operating costs, we see these rather rosy inflation numbers that are published by the federal government. I would tell you that the impact on our operations has been much more significant than you might think by looking at official government statistics. Everything from labor to chemicals, to everything that we consume, electricity, natural gas, it's all, everything has gone up substantially. Wire rod has continued to increase substantially as well. We're primarily looking to recover our costs by implementing price increases. We've implemented 3 since the first of the year.

Speaker #4: Okay. So you are recovering those as of now?

Tyson Bauer: Okay. You are recovering those as of now?

H.O. Woltz III: Well, I wouldn't say we recovered them prospectively, but certainly we absorb some of those costs until the effective date of price increases that will, among other things, serve to recover those higher costs.

Speaker #6: And addressing the operating costs that we see these rather rosy inflation numbers that are published by the federal government, but I would tell you that the impact on our operations has been much more significant than you might think by looking at official government statistics.

Speaker #4: Okay. And regarding price increases, you've done some early in your fiscal year in Q1. You've done some; you announced in April. Any idea of a magnitude of those?

Tyson Bauer: Okay. Regarding price increases, you've done some early in your fiscal year in Q1. You've done some you announced in April. Any idea of a magnitude of those, and are we expecting additional price increases to try to get yourself whole?

Speaker #4: And are we expecting additional price increases to try to get yourself whole?

Speaker #6: Everything from labor to chemicals to everything that we consume, electricity, natural gas, it's all, everything has gone up. Substantially. And why Ride has continued to increase substantially as well.

Speaker #6: Well, let me answer the last part of the question first. Our price increases are implemented to reflect what's happening in our marketplace, both with our raw material costs, and with the other costs that we incur in our operations.

H.O. Woltz III: Let me answer the last part of the question first. Our price increases are implemented to reflect what's happening in our marketplace, both with our raw material costs and with the other costs that we incur in our operations. Addressing the operating costs, we see these rather rosy inflation numbers that are published by the federal government. I would tell you that the impact on our operations has been much more significant than you might think by looking at official government statistics. Everything from labor to chemicals to everything that we consume, electricity, natural gas, it's all gone up substantially. Wire rod has continued to increase substantially as well. We're primarily looking to recover our costs by implementing price increases. We've implemented three since the first of the year.

Speaker #6: So we're primarily looking to recover our costs by implementing price increases. And we've implemented three since the first of the year. And when volume falls, as it did in Q2, we honor the commitments that we've made to customers and, let's say, we're not operating on the basis of price and effective time of shipment.

H.O. Woltz III: When volume falls as it did in Q2, we honor the commitments that we've made to customers and, as I say, we're not operating on the basis of price in effect at time of shipment. We're honoring the commitments that we've made, and it would be the next orders that are affected by price increases. That's the way the business is done and that's the way Insteel's operating.

Speaker #6: We're honoring the commitments that we've made and it would be the next orders that are affected by price increases. So that's the way the business is done.

Speaker #6: Everything from labor to chemicals to everything that we consume—electricity, natural gas—it's all, everything has gone up substantially. And why Ride has continued to increase substantially as well.

Speaker #6: And that's the way InSteel's operating.

Speaker #5: Okay. And I don't know if you want to take a stab at this one or not, but on April 2nd, supposedly, there was clarification on Section 232 for steel and aluminum.

Tyson Bauer: Okay. I don't know if you want to take a stab at this one or not, but on 2 April, supposedly there was clarification on Section 232 for steel and aluminum. Would you want to provide your two cents whether that did indeed provide some clarity as far as foreign content, US content, and different baskets that some of these imports fall into at different rates?

Speaker #5: Would you want to provide your two cents whether that did indeed provide some clarity as far as foreign content, US content, and different baskets that some of these imports fall into at different rates?

H.O. Woltz III: When volume falls as it did in Q2, we honor the commitments that we've made to customers. What I say, we're not operating on the basis of price in effect at time of shipment. We're honoring the commitments that we've made, and it would be the next orders that are affected by price increases. That's the way the business is done, and that's the way Insteel's operating.

Speaker #6: Yeah. So we're affected by two different types 232 tariff is the primary effect on our business. And there was confusion that was created by the administration's inclusion of derivative products, which occurred last summer.

H.O. Woltz III: Yeah. We're affected by two different types of tariffs. The Section 232 tariff is the primary effect on our business. There was confusion that was created by the administration's inclusion of derivative products, which occurred last summer. That confusion was related to how do you calculate the tariff on the product. To know for sure how the tariffs are being calculated, we went back to the entry documents and could confirm that in practically all cases, PC strand that was entering was being assessed a 50% tariff rate. We did not pick up that a lot of importers of record were playing games with this and trying to minimize their tariff exposure.

Speaker #6: We're not operating on the basis of price and effective time of shipment. We're honoring the commitments that we've made and it would be the next orders that are affected by price increases.

Speaker #6: So that's the way the business is done and that's the way Insteel's operating.

Speaker #6: And that confusion was related to how do you calculate the tariff on the product. And so to know for sure how the tariffs are being calculated, we went back to the entry documents and could confirm that in practically all cases, PC strand that was entering was being assessed at 50% tariff rate.

Speaker #4: Okay. And I don't know if you want to take a stab at this one or not, but on April 2nd, supposedly, there was clarification on Section 232 for steel and aluminum.

Speaker #4: Would you want to provide your two cents whether that did indeed provide some clarity as far as foreign content, US content, and different baskets that some of these imports fall into at different rates?

Speaker #6: Yeah. So we're affected by two different types of tariffs. The Section 232 tariff is the primary effect on our business. And there was confusion that was created by the administration's inclusion of derivative products, which occurred last summer.

Speaker #6: We did not pick up that a lot of importers of record were playing games with this and trying to minimize their tariff exposure. So because of that, the recent clarifications really don't have on 232, the recent clarifications don't have a whole lot of impact on us because we don't believe we were being nickeled and dimed on falsification of values to begin with.

H.O. Woltz III: Because of that, the recent clarifications on 232 really don't have a whole lot of impact on us because we don't believe we were being nickeled and dimed on falsification of values to begin with. Now, I guess, any questions about how the values are calculated have been put to rest, but we weren't really a victim of that. On the other side were the IEEPA tariffs, and the IEEPA tariffs would have affected any capital equipment that we purchased, as well as primarily our purchases of spare parts. I'll point out that purchases of spare parts are not really discretionary. We just have to do it. The importer of record declares the value of that part and applies the tariff rate to it. In most cases, the tariff was a line item on our invoices.

Speaker #6: And that confusion was related to how you calculate the tariff on the product. And so, to know for sure how the tariffs are being calculated, we went back to the entry documents and could confirm that in practically all, entering was being assessed a 50% tariff rate.

Speaker #6: So now, I guess, any questions about how the values are calculated have been put to rest. But we weren't really a victim of that.

Speaker #6: On the other side, over the IE tariffs, and the IE tariffs would have affected any capital equipment that we purchased as well as primarily our purchases of spare parts.

Speaker #6: We did not pick up that a lot of importers of record were playing games with this and trying to minimize their tariff exposure. So because of that, the recent clarifications really don't have—on 232, the recent clarifications don't have a whole lot of impact on us because we don't believe we were being nickeled and dimed on falsification of values to begin with.

Speaker #6: And I'll point out that purchases of spare parts are not really discretionary. We just have to do it. And the importer of record declares the value of that part and applies the tariff rate to it.

H.O. Woltz III: Because of that, the recent clarifications on 232 really don't have a whole lot of impact on us because we don't believe we were being nickeled and dimed on falsification of values to begin with. Now, I guess any questions about how the values are calculated have been put to rest, but we weren't really a victim of that. On the other side were the IEEPA tariffs, and the IEEPA tariffs would have affected any capital equipment that we purchased, as well as primarily our purchases of spare parts. I'll point out that purchases of spare parts are not really discretionary. We just have to do it. The importer of record declares the value of that part and applies the tariff rate to it. In most cases, the tariff was a line item on our invoices.

Speaker #6: And in most cases, the tariff was a line item on our invoices. So we're studying now the implications of the Supreme Court's action on IE tariffs and the Court of International Trade's requirement that those tariffs are rebated to well, actually, the tariffs are rebated to the importers of record.

H.O. Woltz III: We are studying now the implications of the Supreme Court's action on IEEPA tariffs and the Court of International Trade's requirement that those tariffs are rebated to the importers of record. Well, actually, the tariffs are rebated to the importers of record, but that's not Insteel. We're going to be in the position of talking with our vendors about, first, their obligation to recover those tariffs, and second, what do you do with any refunds that you obtain. Because we actually paid those tariffs, but we're not going to be rebated by the government. That'll go to the importer of record. All of that is overlaid by the question of where's the money going to come from. I understand that they've collected $160 billion of IEEPA tariffs, and I guess ostensibly all that has to go back to the people who paid it.

Speaker #6: So now, I guess, any questions about how the values are calculated have been put to rest. But we weren't really a victim of that.

Speaker #6: On the other side, over the IE tariffs—and the IE tariffs would have affected any capital equipment that we purchased, as well as primarily our purchases of spare parts.

Speaker #6: But that's not InSteel. So we're going to be in the position of talking with our vendors about, first, their obligation to recover those tariffs and, second, what do you do with any refunds that you obtain because we actually paid those tariffs.

Speaker #6: But we're not going to be rebated by the government. That'll go to the importer of record. So I would and then all of that is overlaid by the question of where's the money going to come from?

H.O. Woltz III: We are studying now the implications of the Supreme Court of the United States's action on IEEPA tariffs and the United States Court of International Trade's requirement that those tariffs are rebated to the importers of record. Well, actually, the tariffs are rebated to the importers of record, but that's not Insteel. We're going to be in the position of talking with our vendors about, first, their obligation to recover those tariffs, and second, what do you do with any refunds that you obtain? Because we actually paid those tariffs, but we're not going to be rebated by the government. That'll go to the importer of record. Then all of that is overlaid by the question of where's the money going to come from? I understand that they've collected $160 billion of IEEPA tariffs, and I guess ostensibly, all that has to go back to the people who paid it.

Speaker #6: I understand that they've collected 160 billion of IE tariffs and I guess I ostensibly all that has to go back to the people who paid it.

Speaker #6: But I would bet you a lot that it won't happen that simply. And as we've discussed it here, we certainly will not be booking any kinds of receivables for tariff collections because I think it's highly improbable that it will happen in any simplistic kind of way.

H.O. Woltz III: I would bet you a lot that it won't happen that simply. As we've discussed it here, we certainly will not be booking any kinds of receivables for tariff collections because I think it's highly improbable that it will happen, in any simplistic kind of way.

Speaker #6: But that's not Insteel. So we're going to be in the position of talking with our vendors about, first, their obligation to recover those tariffs, and second, what do you do with any refunds that you obtain because we actually paid those tariffs.

Tyson Bauer: Yeah. I kind of figured we'll leave the refund line item off the model for, well, ever. The last question from me. Data centers is kind of a headline catalyst for non-res, and that obviously gets a lot of attention. Those are the most prone to delays, it sounds like, from reports. Not necessarily due to anything that you specifically do, but because of transformers, switches, anything that relates to power and the actual operations of the data centers. So a lot of announcements, a lot of expectations, especially in outyears. The reality is, those that have been announced have been getting pushed to the right for permitting reasons, supply issues, and those things. Is this one of those that it's a great opportunity, but it's going to be ripe for these kind of scenarios where things continually get pushed to the right?

Speaker #5: Yeah. I kind of figure we'll leave the refund line item off the model for, well, ever. The last question for me. Data centers is kind of a headline catalyst for non-res and that obviously gets a lot of attention.

Speaker #6: But we're not going to be rebated by the government. That'll go to the importer of record. So I would—and then all of that is overlaid by the question of, where's the money going to come from?

Speaker #6: I understand that they've collected 160 billion of IE tariffs and I guess I ostensibly all that has to go back to the people who paid it.

Speaker #5: Those are the most prone to delays, it sounds like, from reports. Not necessarily due to anything that you specifically do, but because of transformers, switches, anything that relates to power and the actual operations of the data centers.

Speaker #6: But I would bet you a lot that it won't happen that simply. And, as we've discussed here, we certainly will not be booking any kinds of receivables for tariff collections, because I think it's highly improbable that it will happen.

Speaker #5: So a lot of announcements a lot of expectations, especially in out years, but the reality is those that have been announced have been getting pushed to the right for permitting reasons, supply issues, those things.

Speaker #6: In any simplistic kind of way.

Speaker #5: Is this one of those that it's a great opportunity but it's going to be ripe for these kind of scenarios where things continually get pushed to the right?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Yeah. I kind of figured we'll leave the refund line item off the model for, well, ever. The last question for centers is kind of a headline catalyst for non-res and that obviously is gets a lot of attention.

Tyson Bauer: Yeah. I kind of figured we'll leave the refund line item off the model for, well, ever. The last question from me.

Speaker #6: Well, I think I would look at it from a broader perspective. From our point of view, the good news is that we don't think that the data center phenomenon goes away in 2026 or '27.

H.O. Woltz III: Well, I think I would look at it from a broader perspective. That from our point of view, the good news is that we don't think that the data center phenomenon goes away in 2026 or 2027. I think you have five solid years of data center activity. As we pointed out in our last earnings release and conference call, it's a really good thing it's here because the rest of the private non-res market seems to be on its back. The delay is a delay, but my guess is when we look back at it's reasonably insignificant. The better news is that this is going to be a solid marketplace for a pretty good while.

H.O. Woltz III: Yep.

Tyson Bauer: Data centers is kind of a headline catalyst for non-res, and that obviously gets a lot of attention. Those are the most prone to delays, it sounds like, from reports. Not necessarily due to anything that you specifically do, but because of transformers, switches, anything that relates to power and the actual operations of the data centers. A lot of announcements, a lot of expectations, especially in out years. The reality is, those that have been announced have been getting pushed to the right for permitting reasons, supply issues, those things. Is this one of those that it's a great opportunity, but it's going to be ripe for these kind of scenarios where things continually get pushed to the right?

Speaker #4: Those are the most prone to delays, it sounds like, from reports. Not necessarily due to anything that you specifically do, but because of transformers, switches, anything that relates to power and the actual operations of the data centers.

Speaker #6: I think you have five solid years of data center activity. And as we pointed out in our last earnings release and conference call, it's a really good thing is here because the rest of the private non-res market seems to be on its back.

Speaker #4: So a lot of announcements a lot of expectations, especially in out years, but the reality is those that have been announced have been getting pushed to the right for permitting reasons, supply issues, those things.

Speaker #6: So the delay is a delay, but my guess is when we look back at it, it's reasonably insignificant. The better news is that this is going to be a solid marketplace.

Speaker #4: Is this one of those that it's a great opportunity but it's going to be ripe for these kind of scenarios where things continually get pushed to the right?

Speaker #6: For a pretty good while. And while we're doing business on-site with some of these projects, when I recall reports from our salespeople who are dealing with our legacy business, it's hard to tell how much data center business is really included in the legacy business.

Speaker #6: Well, I think I would look at it from a broader perspective. From our point of view, the good news is that we don't think that the data center phenomenon goes away in 2026 or '27.

H.O. Woltz III: Well, I think I would look at it from a broader perspective, that from our point of view, the good news is that we don't think that the data center phenomenon goes away in 2026 or 2027. I think you have five solid years of data center activity. As we pointed out in our last earnings release and conference call, it's a really good thing it's here because the rest of the private non-res market seems to be on its back. The delay is a delay, but my guess is when we look back at it's reasonably insignificant. The better news is that this is going to be a solid marketplace for a pretty good while.

H.O. Woltz III: While we're doing business on site with some of these projects, when I read call reports from our salespeople who are dealing with our legacy business, it's hard to tell how much data center business is really included in the legacy business. We'll sell a guy reinforcing products who makes wall panels or double-tees, but we don't necessarily know where those are going. There are more and more references in call reports to data centers that are consuming products out of our legacy business as well as from our cast-in-place business.

Speaker #6: I think you have five solid years of data center activity. And as we pointed out in our last earnings release and conference call, it's a really good thing it's here because the rest of the private non-res market seems to be on its back.

Speaker #6: We'll sell a guy reinforcing products who makes wall panels or double T's, but we don't necessarily know where those are going. And they're more and more references in call reports to data centers that are consuming products out of our legacy business as well as from our cast and place business.

Speaker #6: So the delay is a delay, but my guess is when we look back at it, it's reasonably insignificant. The better news is that this is going to be a solid marketplace for a pretty good while.

Speaker #5: Okay. That sounds good. All right. Thanks a lot, gentlemen.

Tyson Bauer: Okay, that sounds good. All right. Thanks a lot, gentlemen.

Speaker #6: Thank you, Tyson.

H.O. Woltz III: Thank you, Tyson.

H.O. Woltz III: While we're doing business on-site with some of these projects, when I read call reports from our salespeople who are dealing with our legacy business, it's hard to tell how much data center business is really included in the legacy business. We'll sell a guy reinforcing products, who makes wall panels or double tees, but we don't necessarily know where those are going, and there are more and more references in call reports to data centers that are consuming products out of our legacy business as well as from our cast-in-place business.

Speaker #6: And while we're doing business on-site with some of these projects, when I recall reports from our salespeople who are dealing with our legacy business, it's hard to tell how much data center business is really included in the legacy business.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Just as a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press start followed by one on your telephone keypads now.

Operator: Thank you. Just as a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypads now. Just as a reminder, that is star followed by one. We currently have no further questions, so I'll hand back over to H for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Just as a reminder, that is star followed by one. We currently have no further questions, so I'll hand back over to H for closing remarks.

Speaker #6: Okay. Thank you. We appreciate your interest in InSteel. We look forward to talking to you next quarter and encourage you to call us if you have questions in the meantime.

H.O. Woltz III: Okay. Thank you. We appreciate your interest in Insteel. We look forward to talking to you next quarter and encourage you to call us if you have questions in the meantime. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank

Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

Speaker #4: Okay, that sounds good. All right. Thanks a lot, gentlemen.

Tyson Bauer: Okay. That sounds good. All right. Thanks a lot, gentlemen.

Speaker #6: Thank you, Tyson.

H.O. Woltz III: Thank you, Tyson.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Just as a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press start followed by one on your telephone keypads now.

Speaker #1: Just as a reminder, that is star followed by one. We currently have no further questions, so I'll hand back over to H for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Okay. Thank you. We appreciate your interest in Insteel. We look forward to talking to you next quarter and encourage you to call us if you have questions in the meantime.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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