Q1 2026 Equity LifeStyle Properties Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Good day everyone, and thank you all for joining us to discuss Equity LifeStyle Properties' Q1 2026 results. Our featured speakers today are Marguerite Nader, our Vice Chairman and CEO, Patrick Waite, our President and COO, and Paul Seavey, our Executive Vice President and CFO. In advance of today's call, management released earnings. Today's call will consist of opening remarks and a question and answer session with management relating to the company's earnings release. For those who would like to participate in the question and answer session, management asks that you limit yourself to one question so everyone who would like to participate has ample opportunity. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Certain matters discussed during this conference call may contain forward-looking statements in the meanings of the Federal Securities Laws.
Speaker #1: Good day everyone and thank you all for joining us to discuss Equity LifeStyle Properties . First quarter 2026 results . Our featured speakers today are Marguerite Nader , our Vice Chairman and CEO , Patrick Waite .
Speaker #1: Our president and COO , and Paul Seavey , our Executive Vice President and CFO . In advance of today's call , management released earnings .
Speaker #1: Today's call will consist of opening remarks and a question and answer with management relating to the company's earnings release . For those who would like to participate in the question and answer session , management asks that you limit yourself to one question .
Speaker #1: So everyone who would like to participate has ample opportunity As a reminder , this call is being recorded Certain matters during this conference call may contain forward looking statements in the meanings of the federal securities laws Our forward looking statements are subject to certain economic risks and uncertainty The company assumes no obligation to update or supplement any statements that become untrue because of subsequent events .
Operator: Our forward-looking statements are subject to certain economic risk and uncertainty. The company assumes no obligation to update or supplement any statements that become untrue because of subsequent events. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC Regulation G. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release, our supplemental information, and our historical SEC filings. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Marguerite Nader, our Vice Chairman and CEO.
Operator: Our forward-looking statements are subject to certain economic risk and uncertainty. The company assumes no obligation to update or supplement any statements that become untrue because of subsequent events. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC Regulation G. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release, our supplemental information, and our historical SEC filings. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Marguerite Nader, our Vice Chairman and CEO.
Speaker #1: In addition , during today's call , we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC regulation G Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release .
Marguerite Nader: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report the results for Q1 2026. We continued our long-term record of strong core operations and have maintained our full year normalized FFO guidance of $3.17 per share. Our manufactured housing portfolio represents approximately 60% of our total revenue, and these properties are currently 94% occupied. Our communities distinguish themselves by their ability to sustain high occupancy levels over extended periods. This resilience is driven by the composition of our resident base, as homeowners represent 97% of our MH portfolio. Homeownership promotes long-term residency and supports our strong operating performance. The high concentration of homeowners is a key driver of our predictable recurring cash flow. Residents are invested in their communities, which encourages stability, long tenure, and strong neighborhood engagement.
Marguerite Nader: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report the results for Q1 2026. We continued our long-term record of strong core operations and have maintained our full year normalized FFO guidance of $3.17 per share. Our manufactured housing portfolio represents approximately 60% of our total revenue, and these properties are currently 94% occupied. Our communities distinguish themselves by their ability to sustain high occupancy levels over extended periods. This resilience is driven by the composition of our resident base, as homeowners represent 97% of our MH portfolio. Homeownership promotes long-term residency and supports our strong operating performance. The high concentration of homeowners is a key driver of our predictable recurring cash flow. Residents are invested in their communities, which encourages stability, long tenure, and strong neighborhood engagement.
Speaker #1: Our supplemental information and our historical SEC filings . At this time , I would like to turn the call over to Marguerite Nader , our Vice Chairman and CEO
Speaker #2: Good morning , and thank you for joining us today . I am pleased to report the results for the first quarter of 2026 .
Speaker #2: We continued our long term record of strong core operations and have maintained our full year normalized FFO guidance of $3.17 per share . Our manufactured housing portfolio represents approximately 60% of our total revenue , and these properties are currently 94% occupied .
Speaker #2: Our communities distinguish themselves by their ability to sustain high occupancy levels over extended periods . This resilience is driven by the composition of our resident base as homeowners represent 97% of our MH portfolio Homeownership promotes long term residency and supports our strong operating performance .
Marguerite Nader: Within our RV portfolio, the increase in annual revenue reflects continued strength across our customer base. Our annual customers stay in park models, resort cottages, and RVs, with many families viewing our properties as an integral part of their traditions and family history. This loyalty supports sustained long-term revenue. Turning to demand, our offerings across our portfolio are unique. We offer great long-term experiences in sought-after locations at a fraction of the cost of alternatives. We are engaging with our customers through traditional email campaigns, social media outreach, and digital advertising. For the quarter, our websites attracted a combined 1.3 million unique visitors and generated 94,000 online leads, reflecting strong engagement. The drivers of the lead generation are from our RV annual lease campaign and trip planning lead generation. Our social media strategy seeks to engage both customers and prospects in a wide variety of platforms.
Marguerite Nader: Within our RV portfolio, the increase in annual revenue reflects continued strength across our customer base. Our annual customers stay in park models, resort cottages, and RVs, with many families viewing our properties as an integral part of their traditions and family history. This loyalty supports sustained long-term revenue. Turning to demand, our offerings across our portfolio are unique. We offer great long-term experiences in sought-after locations at a fraction of the cost of alternatives. We are engaging with our customers through traditional email campaigns, social media outreach, and digital advertising. For the quarter, our websites attracted a combined 1.3 million unique visitors and generated 94,000 online leads, reflecting strong engagement. The drivers of the lead generation are from our RV annual lease campaign and trip planning lead generation. Our social media strategy seeks to engage both customers and prospects in a wide variety of platforms.
Speaker #2: The high concentration of homeowners is a key driver of our predictable , recurring cash flow Residents are invested in their communities , which encourages stability , long tenure , and strong neighborhood engagement within our RV portfolio .
Speaker #2: The increase in annual revenue reflects continued strength across our customer base . Our annual customers stay in park models , resort cottages and RVs with many families viewing our properties as an integral part of their traditions and family history This loyal , this loyalty supports sustained long term revenue .
Speaker #2: Turning to demand , our offerings across our portfolio are unique . We offer great long term experiences in sought after locations at a fraction of the cost of alternatives .
Speaker #2: We are engaging with our customers through traditional email campaigns , social media outreach , and digital advertising . For the quarter , our websites attracted a combined 1.3 million unique visitors and generated 94,000 online leads , reflecting strong engagement .
Marguerite Nader: We have over 2.4 million fans and followers across several social media networks. Over the past 10 years, we have grown our social media fans and followers by an average of 25% annually. During periods of uncertainty, it's important to recognize the stability of our business and the fundamentals that support continued growth. I will highlight three of the key components of our success. First, our unique business model drives sustained long-term outperformance. Over the past 25 years, ELS has outperformed the REIT industry NOI growth by 150 basis points. The stability through economic cycles is a hallmark of our success. Second, the demand drivers are the support for continued long-term outperformance. Our core customers are baby boomers, and 10,000 people per day turn 65 through 2030. Thereafter, the Gen X generation maintains the demographic tailwind for the 15-year period following the baby boomers.
Marguerite Nader: We have over 2.4 million fans and followers across several social media networks. Over the past 10 years, we have grown our social media fans and followers by an average of 25% annually. During periods of uncertainty, it's important to recognize the stability of our business and the fundamentals that support continued growth. I will highlight three of the key components of our success. First, our unique business model drives sustained long-term outperformance. Over the past 25 years, ELS has outperformed the REIT industry NOI growth by 150 basis points. The stability through economic cycles is a hallmark of our success. Second, the demand drivers are the support for continued long-term outperformance. Our core customers are baby boomers, and 10,000 people per day turn 65 through 2030. Thereafter, the Gen X generation maintains the demographic tailwind for the 15-year period following the baby boomers.
Speaker #2: The drivers of the lead generation are from our RV annual lease campaign and trip planning lead generation . Our social media strategy seeks to engage both customers and prospects in a wide variety of platforms .
Speaker #2: We have over 2.4 million fans and followers across several social media networks . Over the past ten years , we have grown our social media fans and followers by an average of 25% annually During periods of uncertainty , it's important to recognize the stability of our business and the fundamentals that support continued growth .
Speaker #2: I will highlight three of the key components of our success First , our unique business model drives sustained long term outperformance over the past 25 years .
Speaker #2: LS has outperformed the REIT industry . NOI growth by 150 basis points . The stability through economic cycles is a hallmark of our success Second , the demand drivers are the support for continued long term outperformance .
Marguerite Nader: The runway remains long, supported by favorable migration patterns. Finally, our capital structure is an advantage for us. Our balance sheet is in terrific shape with an average term to maturity of more than seven years. 17% of our debt is fully amortizing and not subject to refinance risk. Our debt maturity schedule through 2028 shows only 14% of our debt coming due, compared to the REIT average of 35%. We have delivered an 18% compounded annual dividend growth rate over a 20-year period. ELS offers a rare combination of strong income growth, stability, and demographic tailwinds backed by a well-managed balance sheet. I want to thank our team for a great start of the year. They've done an excellent job supporting our snowbird guests and will soon welcome our customers for the upcoming summer season.
Marguerite Nader: The runway remains long, supported by favorable migration patterns. Finally, our capital structure is an advantage for us. Our balance sheet is in terrific shape with an average term to maturity of more than seven years. 17% of our debt is fully amortizing and not subject to refinance risk. Our debt maturity schedule through 2028 shows only 14% of our debt coming due, compared to the REIT average of 35%. We have delivered an 18% compounded annual dividend growth rate over a 20-year period. ELS offers a rare combination of strong income growth, stability, and demographic tailwinds backed by a well-managed balance sheet. I want to thank our team for a great start of the year. They've done an excellent job supporting our snowbird guests and will soon welcome our customers for the upcoming summer season.
Speaker #2: Our core customers are baby boomers and 10,000 people per day turn 65 . Through 2030 . Thereafter , the Gen X generation maintains the demographic tailwind for the 15 year period following the baby boomers .
Speaker #2: The runway remains long, supported by favorable migration patterns. And finally, our capital structure is an advantage for us. Our balance sheet is in terrific shape, with an average term to maturity of more than seven years.
Speaker #2: 17% of our debt is fully amortizing and not subject to refinance risk . And our debt maturity schedule through 2028 shows only 14% of our debt coming due compared to the REIT average of 35% .
Speaker #2: We have delivered an 18% compounded annual dividend growth rate over a 20 year period LS offers a rare combination of strong income growth , stability , and demographic tailwinds , backed by a well-managed balance sheet .
Marguerite Nader: I will now turn it over to Patrick to provide more details about property operations.
Marguerite Nader: I will now turn it over to Patrick to provide more details about property operations.
Patrick Waite: Thanks, Marguerite. We're in the middle of our seasonal shift with our snowbird customers heading back to northern climates and our northern properties gearing up for the summer season. As we wrap up the busy season in the Sun Belt, I'd like to provide an update on our key Sun Belt MH markets and the value found in our communities. Florida is our largest market, accounting for about 50% of our core MH revenue. In our top markets of Tampa, St. Pete, Fort Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach, the average single-family home price ranges from $350,000 to over $500,000. Our communities in these markets offer a compelling value with average new home prices of $100,000 and resale home prices averaging about $50,000. We continue our strategy to expand existing communities in areas of high demand and have added more than 1,100 MH sites in Florida since 2020.
Patrick Waite: Thanks, Marguerite. We're in the middle of our seasonal shift with our snowbird customers heading back to northern climates and our northern properties gearing up for the summer season. As we wrap up the busy season in the Sun Belt, I'd like to provide an update on our key Sun Belt MH markets and the value found in our communities. Florida is our largest market, accounting for about 50% of our core MH revenue. In our top markets of Tampa, St. Pete, Fort Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach, the average single-family home price ranges from $350,000 to over $500,000. Our communities in these markets offer a compelling value with average new home prices of $100,000 and resale home prices averaging about $50,000. We continue our strategy to expand existing communities in areas of high demand and have added more than 1,100 MH sites in Florida since 2020.
Speaker #2: I want to thank our team for a great start of the year . They've done an excellent job supporting our Snowbird guests and will soon welcome our customers for the upcoming summer season .
Speaker #2: I will now turn it over to Patrick to provide more details about property operations
Speaker #3: Thanks, Marguerite. We're in the middle of our seasonal shift, with our Snowbird customers heading back to northern climates and our northern properties gearing up for the summer season.
Speaker #3: As we wrap up the busy season in the Sun Belt , I'd like to provide an update on our key Sunbelt MH markets and the value found in our communities Florida is our largest market , accounting for about 50% of our core MH revenue and our top markets .
Speaker #3: Have Tampa , Saint Pete , and Fort Lauderdale , West Palm Beach . The average single family home price ranges from 350,000 to over 500,000 .
Speaker #3: Our communities in these markets offer a compelling value , with average new home prices of $100,000 and resale home prices averaging about $50,000 .
Patrick Waite: In our core Arizona market of Phoenix Mesa, single-family homes average more than $400,000, while new homes in our communities average $100,000 and resale homes average $70,000. We are actively selling homes in our expansion projects in Arizona, where new inventory is selling at prices typically ranging from $110,000 to $180,000. We have 500 completed expansion sites to support further occupancy growth. In our Northern California markets around San Francisco and San Jose, homes average over $1.3 million. While the Southern California markets of Los Angeles and San Diego are about $900,000 to $1 million. Given high demand and the strong value proposition for our California properties, the portfolio is 99% occupied, and home sales are typically resales of resident homes in the range of $100,000 and higher.
Patrick Waite: In our core Arizona market of Phoenix Mesa, single-family homes average more than $400,000, while new homes in our communities average $100,000 and resale homes average $70,000. We are actively selling homes in our expansion projects in Arizona, where new inventory is selling at prices typically ranging from $110,000 to $180,000. We have 500 completed expansion sites to support further occupancy growth. In our Northern California markets around San Francisco and San Jose, homes average over $1.3 million. While the Southern California markets of Los Angeles and San Diego are about $900,000 to $1 million. Given high demand and the strong value proposition for our California properties, the portfolio is 99% occupied, and home sales are typically resales of resident homes in the range of $100,000 and higher.
Speaker #3: We continue our strategy to expand existing communities in areas of high demand, and have added more than 1,100 MH sites in Florida since 2020.
Speaker #3: In our core , Arizona market of Phoenix , Mesa , single family homes averaged more than $400,000 , while new homes in our communities averaged $100,000 in resale , homes averaged $70,000 .
Speaker #3: We are actively selling homes in our expansion projects in Arizona , where new inventory is selling at prices typically ranging from 110,000 to $180,000 .
Speaker #3: And we have 500 completed expansion sites to support further occupancy growth in our northern California markets around San Francisco and San Jose . Homes average over $1.3 million , while the Southern California markets of Los Angeles and San Diego are about $900,000 to 1 million .
Patrick Waite: In each of these markets, residents receive an exceptional housing value along with desirable amenities, including swimming pools, clubhouses, pickleball courts, and more. The active lifestyle and social engagement offered in our communities is why homeowners stay with us for an average of 10 years. Leveraging feedback from our customers, our property operation team establishes comprehensive budget plans for each property. Our on-site team members prioritize occupancy and revenue growth while thoughtfully managing expenses such as seasonal staffing, overtime, and discretionary spending. We're able to adjust to changes in the business to meet high customer expectations while managing expenses scaled to property operations. At the same time, we are investing in new technology across our business, customer touch points like online payments, customer surveys and follow-up, and operational efficiencies like online check-in, staffing plans, and expense management. This continued innovation allows us to increase operational capacity while improving the customer experience.
Patrick Waite: In each of these markets, residents receive an exceptional housing value along with desirable amenities, including swimming pools, clubhouses, pickleball courts, and more. The active lifestyle and social engagement offered in our communities is why homeowners stay with us for an average of 10 years. Leveraging feedback from our customers, our property operation team establishes comprehensive budget plans for each property. Our on-site team members prioritize occupancy and revenue growth while thoughtfully managing expenses such as seasonal staffing, overtime, and discretionary spending. We're able to adjust to changes in the business to meet high customer expectations while managing expenses scaled to property operations. At the same time, we are investing in new technology across our business, customer touch points like online payments, customer surveys and follow-up, and operational efficiencies like online check-in, staffing plans, and expense management. This continued innovation allows us to increase operational capacity while improving the customer experience.
Speaker #3: Given high demand and the strong value proposition for our California properties . The portfolio is 99% occupied and home sales are typically resales of residential homes in the range of $100,000 and higher .
Speaker #3: In each of these markets, residents receive an exceptional housing value along with desirable amenities, including swimming pools, clubhouses, pickleball courts, and more.
Speaker #3: Active lifestyle and social engagement offered our communities is why homeowners stay with us for an average of ten years Leveraging feedback from our customers .
Speaker #3: Our property operation team establishes comprehensive budget plans for each property . Our on site team members prioritize occupancy and revenue growth while thoughtfully managing expenses such as seasonal staffing , overtime and discretionary spending .
Speaker #3: We're able to adjust to changes in the business to meet high customer expectations while managing expenses scaled to property operations . At the same time , we are investing in new technology across our business .
Patrick Waite: Importantly, these efficiencies give our on-site team members more time to make connections with our customers and create memorable experiences. In our RV business, the long-term annuals are the core of our stable occupancy. Through April, we have seen improvements in attrition trends compared to last year, and we are looking forward to the summer sales season. Annual sites account for 75% of our core RV revenue, and most of our annual RV customers own a park model or RV with site improvements and sell their unit in place when they choose to leave the campground. Annual marina revenues experienced occupancy headwinds year over year from delays for permits and longer construction timelines for projects related to previous storms. We expect these construction projects to be completed late in 2026 and into 2027, which will then contribute to occupancy gains as we build back that business.
Patrick Waite: Importantly, these efficiencies give our on-site team members more time to make connections with our customers and create memorable experiences. In our RV business, the long-term annuals are the core of our stable occupancy. Through April, we have seen improvements in attrition trends compared to last year, and we are looking forward to the summer sales season. Annual sites account for 75% of our core RV revenue, and most of our annual RV customers own a park model or RV with site improvements and sell their unit in place when they choose to leave the campground. Annual marina revenues experienced occupancy headwinds year over year from delays for permits and longer construction timelines for projects related to previous storms. We expect these construction projects to be completed late in 2026 and into 2027, which will then contribute to occupancy gains as we build back that business.
Speaker #3: Customer touchpoints like online payments , customer surveys and follow up and operational efficiencies like online check in staffing plans and expense management . This continued innovation allows us to increase operational capacity while improving the customer experience Importantly , these efficiencies give our on site team members more time to make connections with our customers and create memorable experiences in our RV business .
Speaker #3: The long term annual are the core stable occupancy core of our stable occupancy . Through April , we have seen improvement in attrition trends compared to last year , and we are looking forward to the summer sales season .
Speaker #3: Annual sites account for 75% of our core RV revenue , and most of our annual RV customers own a park , model or RV with site improvements and sell their unit in place when they choose to leave the campground .
Speaker #3: Annual marina revenues experienced occupancy headwinds year over year from delays for permits and longer construction timelines for projects related to previous storms. We expect these construction projects to be completed late in '26 and into '27, which will then contribute to occupancy gains as we build back that business.
Patrick Waite: We're looking forward to launching the 12th annual 100 Days of Camping social media campaign this summer, which runs from Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day weekend. We see strong engagement with this campaign year after year, earning over 45 million views across social media last summer. Our teams will be following along as customers post photos online, helping each guest make memories and reinforcing the legacy of our brand. Now I'll turn it over to Paul.
Patrick Waite: We're looking forward to launching the 12th annual 100 Days of Camping social media campaign this summer, which runs from Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day weekend. We see strong engagement with this campaign year after year, earning over 45 million views across social media last summer. Our teams will be following along as customers post photos online, helping each guest make memories and reinforcing the legacy of our brand. Now I'll turn it over to Paul.
Speaker #3: We're looking forward to launching the 12th annual 100 Days of Camping , social media campaign this summer , which runs from Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day weekend .
Speaker #3: We see strong engagement with this campaign year after year , earning over 45 million views across social media last summer . Our teams will be following along as customers post photos online , helping each guest make memories and reinforcing the legacy of our brand .
Paul Seavey: Thanks, Patrick, and good morning, everyone. I will review our Q1 2026 results and provide an overview of our Q2 and full year 2026 guidance. Q1 normalized FFO was $0.84 per share in line with our guidance. Core portfolio NOI growth of 4.9% compared to prior year was slightly ahead of our expectations for the quarter. Core community-based rental income increased 5.7% for the quarter compared to the Q1 2025. The increase in rental income is primarily the result of noticed increases to renewing residents and market rent paid by new residents. Occupied sites increased 54 during the Q1, resulting in occupancy of 93.9%. During the Q1, we sold 228 new and used homes. The occupancy comparison to Q1 2025 is impacted by expansion sites added during the past 12 months.
Paul Seavey: Thanks, Patrick, and good morning, everyone. I will review our Q1 2026 results and provide an overview of our Q2 and full year 2026 guidance. Q1 normalized FFO was $0.84 per share in line with our guidance. Core portfolio NOI growth of 4.9% compared to prior year was slightly ahead of our expectations for the quarter. Core community-based rental income increased 5.7% for the quarter compared to the Q1 2025. The increase in rental income is primarily the result of noticed increases to renewing residents and market rent paid by new residents. Occupied sites increased 54 during the Q1, resulting in occupancy of 93.9%. During the Q1, we sold 228 new and used homes. The occupancy comparison to Q1 2025 is impacted by expansion sites added during the past 12 months.
Speaker #3: Now I'll turn it over to Paul
Speaker #4: Thanks , Patrick and good morning everyone . I will review our first quarter 2026 results and provide an overview of our second quarter and full year 2026 guidance First quarter normalized FFO was $0.84 per share , in line with our guidance for portfolio NOI growth of 4.9% compared to prior year was slightly ahead of our expectations for the quarter Core community based rental income increased 5.7% for the quarter compared to the first quarter of 2025 .
Speaker #4: The increase in rental income is primarily the result of noticed increases to renewing residents and market rent paid by new residents . Occupied sites .
Speaker #4: Increased 54 during the first quarter , resulting in occupancy of 93.9% during the first quarter , we sold 228 new and used homes .
Paul Seavey: Adjusted for expansion sites, occupancy would be 94.4%, in line with Q1 2025. First quarter core resort and marina-based rental income outperformed our budget by 10 basis points in the quarter. Rent growth from RV and marina annuals increased 4.2% for the quarter compared to prior year, slightly below expectations for the quarter. Marina performance was impacted by delays in slip restoration efforts. Seasonal and transient rent was 70 basis points higher than guidance as a result of higher than expected seasonal rent in the quarter. For the first quarter, the net contribution from our total membership business, which consists of annual subscription and upgrade revenues offset by sales and marketing expenses, was $17.6 million. An increase of 13.7% compared to the prior year. Membership dues revenue growth is primarily rate driven. Approximately 1,200 upgrade subscriptions were originated in the quarter from new and existing members.
Paul Seavey: Adjusted for expansion sites, occupancy would be 94.4%, in line with Q1 2025. First quarter core resort and marina-based rental income outperformed our budget by 10 basis points in the quarter. Rent growth from RV and marina annuals increased 4.2% for the quarter compared to prior year, slightly below expectations for the quarter. Marina performance was impacted by delays in slip restoration efforts. Seasonal and transient rent was 70 basis points higher than guidance as a result of higher than expected seasonal rent in the quarter. For the first quarter, the net contribution from our total membership business, which consists of annual subscription and upgrade revenues offset by sales and marketing expenses, was $17.6 million. An increase of 13.7% compared to the prior year. Membership dues revenue growth is primarily rate driven. Approximately 1,200 upgrade subscriptions were originated in the quarter from new and existing members.
Speaker #4: The occupancy comparison to first quarter 2025 is impacted by expansion sites added during the past 12 months . Adjusted for expansion sites , occupancy would be 94.4% , in line with first quarter 2025 .
Speaker #4: First quarter core Resort and Marina based rental income outperformed our budget by ten basis points in the quarter . Rent growth from RV and marine animals increased 4.2% for the quarter compared to prior year , slightly below expectations for the quarter Marina performance was impacted by delays in slip restoration efforts .
Speaker #4: Seasonal and transient rent was 70 basis points higher than guidance as a result of higher than expected seasonal rent in the quarter For the first quarter , the net contribution from our total membership business , which consists of annual subscription and upgrade revenues , offset by sales and marketing expenses , was $17.6 million , an increase of 13.7% compared to the prior year .
Paul Seavey: Core utility and other income increased 5.4% compared to Q1 2025. Our utility income recovery percentage was 50.4%, about 280 basis points higher than Q1 2025. Q1 core operating expenses increased 1.8% compared to the same period in 2025. We renewed our property and casualty insurance programs 1 April, and the premium decrease year over year was approximately 18%. We're pleased with the result, which reflects no change in our property insurance program coverage. Core property operating revenues increased 3.7%, while core property operating expenses increased 1.8%, resulting in growth in core NOI before property management of 4.9%. Our non-core properties contributed $3 million in the quarter, slightly higher than our expectation. Property management and corporate expenses were $28.6 million in Q1 2026, 3.4% lower than 2025.
Paul Seavey: Core utility and other income increased 5.4% compared to Q1 2025. Our utility income recovery percentage was 50.4%, about 280 basis points higher than Q1 2025. Q1 core operating expenses increased 1.8% compared to the same period in 2025. We renewed our property and casualty insurance programs 1 April, and the premium decrease year over year was approximately 18%. We're pleased with the result, which reflects no change in our property insurance program coverage. Core property operating revenues increased 3.7%, while core property operating expenses increased 1.8%, resulting in growth in core NOI before property management of 4.9%. Our non-core properties contributed $3 million in the quarter, slightly higher than our expectation. Property management and corporate expenses were $28.6 million in Q1 2026, 3.4% lower than 2025.
Speaker #4: Membership dues revenue growth is primarily driven approximately 1200 upgrade subscriptions were originated in the quarter from new and existing members . Core utility and other income increased 5.4% compared to first quarter 2025 .
Speaker #4: Our utility income recovery percentage was 50.4% , about 280 basis points higher than first quarter 2025 . First quarter core operating expenses increased 1.8% compared to the same period in 2025 .
Speaker #4: We renewed our property and casualty insurance programs April 1st , and the premium decrease year over year was approximately 18% . We're pleased with the result , which reflects no change in our property insurance program coverage .
Speaker #4: Core property operating revenues increased 3.7%, while core property operating expenses increased 1.8%, resulting in growth in core NOI before property management of 4.9%.
Paul Seavey: The press release and supplemental package provide an overview of 2026 second quarter and full year earnings guidance. The following remarks are intended to provide context for our current estimate of future results. All growth rate ranges and revenue and expense projections are qualified by the risk factors included in our press release and supplemental package. Our guidance for 2026 full year normalized FFO is $3.17 per share at the midpoint of our guidance range of $3.12 to $3.22. We project core property operating income growth of 5.7% at the midpoint of our range of 5.2% to 6.2%. We project the non-core properties will generate between $5.7 million and $9.7 million of NOI during 2026. Our property management and G&A expense guidance range is $119 million to $125 million.
Paul Seavey: The press release and supplemental package provide an overview of 2026 second quarter and full year earnings guidance. The following remarks are intended to provide context for our current estimate of future results. All growth rate ranges and revenue and expense projections are qualified by the risk factors included in our press release and supplemental package. Our guidance for 2026 full year normalized FFO is $3.17 per share at the midpoint of our guidance range of $3.12 to $3.22. We project core property operating income growth of 5.7% at the midpoint of our range of 5.2% to 6.2%. We project the non-core properties will generate between $5.7 million and $9.7 million of NOI during 2026. Our property management and G&A expense guidance range is $119 million to $125 million.
Speaker #4: Our non-core properties contributed $3 million in the quarter , slightly higher than our expectations Property management and corporate expenses were $28.6 million in the first quarter of 2026 , 3.4% lower than 2025 .
Speaker #4: The press release and supplemental package provide an overview of 2026 , second quarter and full year earnings guidance . The following remarks are intended to provide context for our current estimate of future results .
Speaker #4: All growth rate ranges and revenue and expense projections are qualified by the risk factors included in our press release and supplemental package. Our guidance for 2026 full-year normalized FFO is $3.17 per share.
Speaker #4: At the midpoint of our guidance range of $3.12 to $3.22 , we project core property operating income growth of 5.7% at the midpoint of our range of 5.2% to 6.2% .
Paul Seavey: In the core portfolio, we project the following full year growth rate ranges. 4% to 5% for core revenues, 2.2% to 3.2% for core expenses, and 5.2% to 6.2% for core NOI. Full year guidance assumes core MH rent growth in the range of 5.1% to 6.1%. Full year guidance for combined RV and marina rent growth is 2% to 3%. Annual RV and marina rent represents approximately 75% of the full year RV and marina rent, and we expect 4.8% growth in rental income from annuals at the midpoint of our guidance range. As I mentioned, the change in expectations for full year growth in annuals compared to our prior guidance is attributed to our marina portfolio, which is experiencing longer than anticipated delays in restoration of slips. Our full year expense growth assumption includes the impact of our 1 April insurance renewal for the rest of 2026.
Paul Seavey: In the core portfolio, we project the following full year growth rate ranges. 4% to 5% for core revenues, 2.2% to 3.2% for core expenses, and 5.2% to 6.2% for core NOI. Full year guidance assumes core MH rent growth in the range of 5.1% to 6.1%. Full year guidance for combined RV and marina rent growth is 2% to 3%. Annual RV and marina rent represents approximately 75% of the full year RV and marina rent, and we expect 4.8% growth in rental income from annuals at the midpoint of our guidance range. As I mentioned, the change in expectations for full year growth in annuals compared to our prior guidance is attributed to our marina portfolio, which is experiencing longer than anticipated delays in restoration of slips. Our full year expense growth assumption includes the impact of our 1 April insurance renewal for the rest of 2026.
Speaker #4: We project the non-core properties will generate between 5.7 million and $9.7 million of NOI during 2026 . Our property management and G&A expense guidance range is 119 million to $125 million in the core portfolio , we project the following full year growth rate ranges 4% to 5% for core revenues , 2.2% to 3.2% for core expenses and 5.2% to 6.2% for core NOI .
Speaker #4: Full year guidance assumes core MH rent growth in the range of 5.1% to 6.1% . Full year guidance for combined RV and Marina rent growth is 2% to 3% .
Speaker #4: Annual RV and Marina rent represents approximately 75% of the full year RV and Marina rent , and we expect 4.8% growth in rental income from annuals at the midpoint of our guidance range As I mentioned , the change in expectations for full year growth and annuals compared to our prior guidance is attributed to our Marina portfolio , which is experiencing longer than anticipated delays in restoration of slips .
Paul Seavey: Our Q2 guidance assumes normalized FFO per share in the range of $0.69 to $0.75. Core property operating income growth is projected to be in the range of 4.8% to 5.4% for Q2. Q2 growth in MH rent is 5.6% at the midpoint of our guidance range. We project Q2 annual RV and marina rent growth to be approximately 5.1% at the midpoint of our guidance range. Our guidance assumes Q2 seasonal and transient RV revenues perform in line with our current reservation pacing. We've made no changes to prior guidance for seasonal and transient rent in Q3 and Q4. Q2 growth in core property operating expenses is projected to be in the range of 3.9% to 4.5% and includes the impact of our 1 April insurance renewal.
Paul Seavey: Our Q2 guidance assumes normalized FFO per share in the range of $0.69 to $0.75. Core property operating income growth is projected to be in the range of 4.8% to 5.4% for Q2. Q2 growth in MH rent is 5.6% at the midpoint of our guidance range. We project Q2 annual RV and marina rent growth to be approximately 5.1% at the midpoint of our guidance range. Our guidance assumes Q2 seasonal and transient RV revenues perform in line with our current reservation pacing. We've made no changes to prior guidance for seasonal and transient rent in Q3 and Q4. Q2 growth in core property operating expenses is projected to be in the range of 3.9% to 4.5% and includes the impact of our 1 April insurance renewal.
Speaker #4: Our full year expense growth assumption includes the impact of our April 1st insurance renewal for the rest of 2026 . Our second quarter guidance assumes normalized FFO per share in the range of $0.69 to $0.75 .
Speaker #4: Core property operating income growth is projected to be in the range of 4.8% to 5.4% for the second quarter . Second quarter growth in MH rent is 5.6% .
Speaker #4: At the midpoint of our guidance range , we project second quarter annual RV and Marina rent growth to be approximately 5.1% at the midpoint of our guidance range .
Speaker #4: Our guidance assumes second quarter seasonal and transient RV revenues perform in line with our current reservation pacing . We've made no changes to prior guidance for seasonal and transient rent in the third and fourth quarters .
Paul Seavey: I'll now provide some comments on our balance sheet and the financing market. Our balance sheet is insulated from refinance and rate risk and is well positioned to execute on capital allocation opportunities. Our floating rate exposure is limited to balances on our line of credit. Our debt to EBITDARE is 4.5x, and interest coverage is 5.6x. We have access to approximately $1.2 billion of capital from our combined line of credit and ATM programs. We continue to place high importance on balance sheet flexibility, and we believe we have multiple sources of capital available to us. Current secured debt terms vary depending on many factors, including lender, borrower sponsor, and asset type and quality. Current term loans are quoted between 5.25% and 6.25%, 60% to 75% loan-to-value, and 1.4x to 1.6x debt service coverage.
Paul Seavey: I'll now provide some comments on our balance sheet and the financing market. Our balance sheet is insulated from refinance and rate risk and is well positioned to execute on capital allocation opportunities. Our floating rate exposure is limited to balances on our line of credit. Our debt to EBITDARE is 4.5x, and interest coverage is 5.6x. We have access to approximately $1.2 billion of capital from our combined line of credit and ATM programs. We continue to place high importance on balance sheet flexibility, and we believe we have multiple sources of capital available to us. Current secured debt terms vary depending on many factors, including lender, borrower sponsor, and asset type and quality. Current term loans are quoted between 5.25% and 6.25%, 60% to 75% loan-to-value, and 1.4x to 1.6x debt service coverage.
Speaker #4: Second quarter growth in core property operating expenses is projected to be in the range of 3.9% to 4.5% , and includes the impact of our April 1st insurance renewal .
Speaker #4: I'll now provide some comments on our balance sheet and the financing market . Our balance sheet is insulated from refinance and rate risk and is well positioned to execute on capital allocation opportunities .
Speaker #4: Our floating rate exposure is limited to balances on our line of credit . Our debt to EBITDA , ROE is four and a half times and interest coverage is 5.6 times .
Speaker #4: We have access to approximately $1.2 billion of capital from our combined line of credit and ATM programs. We continue to place high importance on balance sheet flexibility, and we believe we have multiple sources of capital available to us.
Speaker #4: Current secured debt terms vary depending on many factors , including lender , borrower , sponsor , and asset type and quality . Current ten year loans are quoted between 5.25% , and 6.25% 60 to 75% loan to value and 1.4 to 1.6 times debt service coverage .
Paul Seavey: We continue to see solid interest from life companies and GSEs to lend for 10-year terms. High quality, age-qualified MH assets continue to command best financing terms. Now we would like to open it up for questions.
Paul Seavey: We continue to see solid interest from life companies and GSEs to lend for 10-year terms. High quality, age-qualified MH assets continue to command best financing terms. Now we would like to open it up for questions.
Operator: Our first question comes from Jamie Feldman of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Speaker #4: We continue to see solid interest from life companies and GSEs to lend for ten year terms , high quality , age qualified MH assets continue to best financing terms .
Speaker #4: Now , we would like to open it up for questions .
Speaker #1: Thank you . To ask a question , please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced .
Operator: Our first question comes from Jamie Feldman of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: To withdraw your question , please press star one one again . Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster And our first question comes from Jamie Feldman of Wells Fargo .
Jamie Feldman: Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to dig a little deeper into the insurance renewal and then just the impact on the expense savings and the new guidance. Can you talk about what you had in the original guidance for the insurance renewal, how that compares to the down 18%, and then just maybe some of the moving pieces around the expense savings in the guidance going forward? Sure, Jamie. I think that we've guided to full-year core expense growth. I think I mentioned this in the January call. It includes a premium to CPI. It is offset by some anticipated savings in a few line items. Just as a refresher for everybody, roughly two-thirds of our expenses are comprised of utilities, payroll, and repairs and maintenance. Those three line items, we expect year-over-year growth for the remainder of 2026 to be approximately 4.7%.
Jamie Feldman: Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to dig a little deeper into the insurance renewal and then just the impact on the expense savings and the new guidance. Can you talk about what you had in the original guidance for the insurance renewal, how that compares to the down 18%, and then just maybe some of the moving pieces around the expense savings in the guidance going forward?
Speaker #1: Your line is open .
Speaker #5: Great . Thanks for taking my question . I wanted to dig a little deeper into the insurance renewal and then just the impact on the expense savings in the new guidance .
Paul Seavey: Sure, Jamie. I think that we've guided to full-year core expense growth. I think I mentioned this in the January call. It includes a premium to CPI. It is offset by some anticipated savings in a few line items. Just as a refresher for everybody, roughly two-thirds of our expenses are comprised of utilities, payroll, and repairs and maintenance. Those three line items, we expect year-over-year growth for the remainder of 2026 to be approximately 4.7%.
Speaker #5: Can you talk about what you had in the original guidance for the insurance renewal , how that compares to the down 18% ? And then just maybe some of the moving pieces around the expense savings and the in the guidance going forward .
Speaker #4: Sure . Jamie . I think that we've guided to full year core expense growth . I think I mentioned this in the January call .
Speaker #4: It includes a premium to CPI . It is offset by some anticipated savings in a few line items . And just as a refresher for everybody , roughly two thirds of our expenses are comprised of utilities , payroll and repairs and maintenance .
Paul Seavey: The CPI reported in April was almost 100 basis points higher than the prior month, and we've made some expense adjustments, including utility expenses, and R&M both, in anticipation of potential energy and supply cost increases. With respect to the insurance, we had an assumption in our budget, which was informed based on what we understood was happening in the market at the time that we finalized our budget in January. We made the adjustment to reflect the 18% reduction in premium, and all of that is rolled into the guidance that we provided.
Paul Seavey: The CPI reported in April was almost 100 basis points higher than the prior month, and we've made some expense adjustments, including utility expenses, and R&M both, in anticipation of potential energy and supply cost increases. With respect to the insurance, we had an assumption in our budget, which was informed based on what we understood was happening in the market at the time that we finalized our budget in January. We made the adjustment to reflect the 18% reduction in premium, and all of that is rolled into the guidance that we provided.
Speaker #4: And those three line items we expect year over year growth for the remainder of 2026 to be approximately 4.7% . The CPI reported in April was almost 100 basis points higher than the prior month , and we've made some expense adjustments , including utility expenses and R and M , both in anticipation of potential energy and supply cost increases .
Speaker #4: And with respect to the insurance , we had a we had an assumption in our budget , which was informed based on what we understood was happening in the market at the time that we finalized our budget in January .
Jamie Feldman: Are you able to say what was in the initial number for the insurance? I'm just trying to figure out how much better it was than what you thought.
Jamie Feldman: Are you able to say what was in the initial number for the insurance? I'm just trying to figure out how much better it was than what you thought.
Speaker #4: And so we made the adjustment adjustment to reflect the 18% reduction in premium and all of that has rolled into the guidance that we provided
Paul Seavey: Yeah. Generally, we don't go into that level of detail, Jamie.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. Generally, we don't go into that level of detail, Jamie.
Jamie Feldman: Okay. All right. Thank you.
Jamie Feldman: Okay. All right. Thank you.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Speaker #5: But are you able to say like what ? What was in the initial number for the insurance ? I'm just trying to figure out how much better it was than what you thought .
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jana Galan of BofA Securities. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jana Galan of BofA Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker #4: Yeah . Generally , generally we don't go into that level of detail . Jamie .
Speaker #5: Okay . All right . Thank you .
Jana Galan: Thank you, and good morning.
Jana Galan: Thank you, and good morning.
Marguerite Nader: Good morning, Jana.
Marguerite Nader: Good morning, Jana.
Jana Galan: Following up on the revised seasonal and transient top-line guide, can you just talk a little bit more about booking visibility and reservation pacing and, I don't know, any impacts with the weather?
Jana Galan: Following up on the revised seasonal and transient top-line guide, can you just talk a little bit more about booking visibility and reservation pacing and, I don't know, any impacts with the weather?
Speaker #6: Thanks .
Speaker #1: Thank you. And our next question comes from Yana Galin of Bank of America Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker #7: Thank you and good morning . Good morning . Following up on the revised seasonal and transient top line guide , can you just talk a little bit more about booking visibility and kind of reservation pacing ?
Paul Seavey: Sure. With respect to the seasonal business and just as we think about advance reservation pacing, certainly we talked a lot in the past about our transient business and not great visibility beyond the coming 90 days as our first point of visibility. As I mentioned, we've updated our guidance for transient to reflect what we're seeing in the system right now in terms of reservation pacing. Just a reminder, roughly 60% of the revenue comes from bookings that are within 7 to 10 days of arrival.
Paul Seavey: Sure. With respect to the seasonal business and just as we think about advance reservation pacing, certainly we talked a lot in the past about our transient business and not great visibility beyond the coming 90 days as our first point of visibility. As I mentioned, we've updated our guidance for transient to reflect what we're seeing in the system right now in terms of reservation pacing. Just a reminder, roughly 60% of the revenue comes from bookings that are within 7 to 10 days of arrival.
Speaker #7: And I don't know any impacts with kind of the , you know , whether
Speaker #4: Sure . I mean , with respect to the seasonal business , and just as we think about advanced reservation pacing , you know , certainly we talked a lot in the past about our transient business and , you know , not great visibility beyond the the coming 90 days as our first point of , of kind of visibility .
Speaker #4: So as I mentioned , we've updated our guidance for transient to reflect what we're seeing in the system right now in terms of reservation pacing , but just a reminder , roughly 60% of the revenue comes from bookings that are , you know , within 7 to 10 days of arrival
Jana Galan: Thank you. I also very much appreciate the update on the financing environment. I was just wondering if you can maybe comment on any changes in the transaction environment or any more product coming to market potentially on the RV side.
Jana Galan: Thank you. I also very much appreciate the update on the financing environment. I was just wondering if you can maybe comment on any changes in the transaction environment or any more product coming to market potentially on the RV side.
Marguerite Nader: Sure. Thanks, Jana. Yeah. As you know, our assets are really in demand from an investor standpoint. It's not a secret that the model that we have is compelling. We find times in our history that we have limited amount of quality assets for sale, and we're in that time right now. As an industry, we're experiencing a low volume of activity. The ownership remains highly fragmented, but our team is very engaged with owners as they consider their next step in the future. I think that with respect to your question on whether, on the RV side, I think there probably is more opportunities to buy transient RV parks than there were previously, but not necessarily something we are interested in.
Marguerite Nader: Sure. Thanks, Jana. Yeah. As you know, our assets are really in demand from an investor standpoint. It's not a secret that the model that we have is compelling. We find times in our history that we have limited amount of quality assets for sale, and we're in that time right now. As an industry, we're experiencing a low volume of activity. The ownership remains highly fragmented, but our team is very engaged with owners as they consider their next step in the future. I think that with respect to your question on whether, on the RV side, I think there probably is more opportunities to buy transient RV parks than there were previously, but not necessarily something we are interested in.
Speaker #7: Thank you . And also very much appreciate the update on the environment . I was just wondering if you can maybe comment on any changes in the transaction environment or any more product coming to market , potentially on the RV side ?
Speaker #2: Sure . Thanks . Shana . Yeah . You know , as you know , our assets are really in demand from an investor standpoint .
Speaker #2: It's not a it's not a secret that the model that we have is compelling . But , you know , we find times in our history that we have limited amount of quality assets for sale .
Speaker #2: And we're in that time right now as an industry , we're experiencing a low volume of activity . The ownership remains highly fragmented , but our team is very engaged with owners as they consider their next step in the in the future .
Speaker #2: I think that with your with respect to your question on whether on the RV side , I think they're probably is more opportunities to buy transient RV parks than there were previously , but not necessarily something we're .
Jana Galan: Great. Thank you, Marguerite. Thanks, Paul.
Jana Galan: Great. Thank you, Marguerite. Thanks, Paul.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Jana.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Jana.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Wolfe of Citi. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Wolfe of Citi. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: We are interested in .
Eric Wolfe: Hey, thanks. For the Northeast annual RV sites, can you just talk through the trends that you're seeing there? I think last year, around this time, you started seeing some higher turnover at 20 properties or so. Does that seem to be normalizing? Is occupancy ahead, behind? Maybe just talk through for those Northeast properties, the annual trends you're seeing thus far.
Eric Wolfe: Hey, thanks. For the Northeast annual RV sites, can you just talk through the trends that you're seeing there? I think last year, around this time, you started seeing some higher turnover at 20 properties or so. Does that seem to be normalizing? Is occupancy ahead, behind? Maybe just talk through for those Northeast properties, the annual trends you're seeing thus far.
Speaker #7: Great . Thank you . Marguerite . Thanks , Paul .
Speaker #2: Thanks , Yana .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Eric Wolf of Citi . Your line is open .
Speaker #8: Hey , thanks for the Northeast Annual RV sites . Can you just talk through the trends that you're seeing there ? I think last year around this time , you started seeing some higher turnover at like 20 properties or so .
Paul Seavey: Yeah, sure. It's Patrick. We are seeing trends that are more consistent with our historical experience as opposed to the elevated attrition that we saw at the same time last year. We made our way through the quarter, sequentially month after month, we were able to achieve a higher level of sales. We feel like we have consistent demand in the RV annual space. Just as a reminder, in the back half of 2025, we added 500 annuals. We rolled out of that period into a period of steady demand, and we're past that elevated attrition that you referenced from last year.
Patrick Waite: Yeah, sure. It's Patrick. We are seeing trends that are more consistent with our historical experience as opposed to the elevated attrition that we saw at the same time last year. We made our way through the quarter, sequentially month after month, we were able to achieve a higher level of sales. We feel like we have consistent demand in the RV annual space. Just as a reminder, in the back half of 2025, we added 500 annuals. We rolled out of that period into a period of steady demand, and we're past that elevated attrition that you referenced from last year.
Speaker #8: Does that seem to be normalizing ? Is that going ahead behind maybe just talk through sort of for those northeast properties , the annual trends you're seeing thus far ?
Speaker #3: Yeah , sure . It's Patrick . We are seeing trends that are more consistent with our historical experience as opposed to the , the elevated attrition that we saw at the same time last year .
Speaker #3: And as we made our way through the quarter , you know , sequentially , month after month , we were able to achieve a higher level of sales .
Speaker #3: We feel like we have consistent demand in the in the RV annual space . And just as a reminder in the back half of 2025 , we added 500 annual .
Eric Wolfe: Got it. That's helpful. Maybe just going back to the marina restoration. I guess it sounds like based on your original guidance, you expected maybe some slips to come back, I guess, this quarter, but now it's sort of getting pushed to late 2026 or even early 2027. I guess first, I just wanted to confirm that was right. Maybe just discuss, I guess it sounds like maybe over the last 2 months, you've seen construction delays or permitting delays, just sort of what happened and what the magnitude of it is. I guess I calculated $1.5 million, but maybe just let us know if that's incorrect.
Eric Wolfe: Got it. That's helpful. Maybe just going back to the marina restoration. I guess it sounds like based on your original guidance, you expected maybe some slips to come back, I guess, this quarter, but now it's sort of getting pushed to late 2026 or even early 2027. I guess first, I just wanted to confirm that was right. Maybe just discuss, I guess it sounds like maybe over the last 2 months, you've seen construction delays or permitting delays, just sort of what happened and what the magnitude of it is. I guess I calculated $1.5 million, but maybe just let us know if that's incorrect.
Speaker #3: So we kind of rolled out of that period into a period of , of steady demand . And , and we're past that , that elevated attrition that , that you referenced from last year .
Speaker #8: Got it . That's helpful . And then maybe just going back to the Marina restoration , you know , I guess it sounds like based on your original guidance , you expected maybe some slips to , to come back .
Speaker #8: I guess this quarter , but now it's sort of getting pushed to late 2026 or early 2027 . I guess . First , I just wanted to confirm that was right .
Speaker #8: And then maybe just discuss , I guess it sounds like maybe over the last two months you've seen construction delays or permitting delays , just sort of what happened .
Paul Seavey: Yeah. Let me speak to what's actually going on at the property. It's three properties. They were impacted by the hurricane season in 2024. I think your timeline's pretty close to our thinking. I would have expected that we would have been coming into this year and starting to build occupancy as projects were completed through the current year. The reality is the delays are, call it, in the neighborhood of 9 to 12 months. The expectation of progress being completed and building back occupancy late in 2026 and into 2027, I think is a good way to think about it.
Patrick Waite: Yeah. Let me speak to what's actually going on at the property. It's three properties. They were impacted by the hurricane season in 2024. I think your timeline's pretty close to our thinking. I would have expected that we would have been coming into this year and starting to build occupancy as projects were completed through the current year. The reality is the delays are, call it, in the neighborhood of 9 to 12 months. The expectation of progress being completed and building back occupancy late in 2026 and into 2027, I think is a good way to think about it.
Speaker #8: And you know what the magnitude of it is , I guess I calculated like a million and a half , but maybe just let us know if that's incorrect .
Speaker #3: Yeah . So I'll let me speak to what's , what's actually going on at the property . So it's three properties . They were impacted by the hurricane season in 2024 .
Speaker #3: I think your timeline is pretty close to our thinking . I would have expected that we would have been on , you know , coming into this year and and starting to build occupancy as projects were completed through the current year .
Speaker #3: The reality is, is the, the delays are, call it, in the neighborhood of 9 to 12 months, and the expectation of projects being completed and building back occupancy late in 2026 and into 2027.
Eric Wolfe: Okay. Thank you.
Eric Wolfe: Okay. Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Eric.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Eric.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from John Kim of BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from John Kim of BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: I think is a good way to think about it
John Kim: Thank you. On managed manufactured housing occupancy, it continued to trend down. It did end the quarter on a high note, but I'm wondering how you see that playing out for the rest of the year, excluding the impact of expansions.
John Kim: Thank you. On managed manufactured housing occupancy, it continued to trend down. It did end the quarter on a high note, but I'm wondering how you see that playing out for the rest of the year, excluding the impact of expansions.
Speaker #8: Okay . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Thanks , Eric .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from John Kim of BMO Capital Markets . Your line is open .
Paul Seavey: Yeah. As I mentioned in the call, occupancy ended the quarter at 93.9%. That's up 10 basis points from year-end on the 54 sites that we filled during the quarter with no expansion sites added. We essentially have an assumption in the budget for modest uptick in occupancy for the rest of the year. It's not quite the volume of growth that we saw in Q1 in the future three quarters. We anticipate the slight increase during the rest of the year.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. As I mentioned in the call, occupancy ended the quarter at 93.9%. That's up 10 basis points from year-end on the 54 sites that we filled during the quarter with no expansion sites added. We essentially have an assumption in the budget for modest uptick in occupancy for the rest of the year. It's not quite the volume of growth that we saw in Q1 in the future three quarters. We anticipate the slight increase during the rest of the year.
Speaker #9: Thank you . Manufactured housing occupancy . It continued to trend down . It did end the quarter on a high note . But I'm wondering how you see that playing out for the rest of the year .
Speaker #9: Excluding the impact of expansions
Speaker #4: Yeah , as I mentioned in the call , occupancy end of the quarter at 93.9% , that's up ten basis points from year end on the 54 sites that we filled during the quarter with , with no expansion sites added , we have a we essentially have an assumption in the budget for for modest uptick in occupancy for the rest of the year .
John Kim: Okay. Can I ask a second question?
John Kim: Okay. Can I ask a second question?
Speaker #4: Not quite the . The volume of growth that we saw in the first quarter in the future . Three quarters . And so anticipate , you know , slight increase during the rest of the year
Marguerite Nader: Sure, John.
Marguerite Nader: Sure, John.
John Kim: The Thousand Trails you talked about, I think, a new rate strategy, just given that it's gone up 12% year over year despite fewer numbers. Is this something that you're going to carry on through for the near future and potentially increase rates further at the expense of memberships?
John Kim: The Thousand Trails you talked about, I think, a new rate strategy, just given that it's gone up 12% year over year despite fewer numbers. Is this something that you're going to carry on through for the near future and potentially increase rates further at the expense of memberships?
Speaker #9: Okay . Can I ask a second question ?
Speaker #2: Sure . John
Speaker #9: The thousand trails you talked about a new , I think a new rate strategy just given it's gone up 12% year over year despite fewer members , is this something that you're going to carry on through for the near future ?
Marguerite Nader: Yeah. I think, if you look at their supplemental, as you point out, you see that increase in revenue. I think if you add all the line items together, you get to about an 8% growth. That is primarily because we changed that product, and we have a higher annual dues rate. The term is, I think, 2 to 4 years, and with costs ranging from $2,000 to $4,000. The members want to have that extra time at the properties, take advantage of discounts on cabins, et cetera. Right now that price is, I think, properly priced. As we head into 2027, we would look to what increases we would think that we should do in terms of that product.
Marguerite Nader: Yeah. I think, if you look at their supplemental, as you point out, you see that increase in revenue. I think if you add all the line items together, you get to about an 8% growth. That is primarily because we changed that product, and we have a higher annual dues rate. The term is, I think, 2 to 4 years, and with costs ranging from $2,000 to $4,000. The members want to have that extra time at the properties, take advantage of discounts on cabins, et cetera. Right now that price is, I think, properly priced. As we head into 2027, we would look to what increases we would think that we should do in terms of that product.
Speaker #9: And potentially increase rates further at the expense of memberships ?
Speaker #2: Yeah , I mean , I think , you know , if you look at their supplemental , as you point out , you see that increase in revenue .
Speaker #2: I think if you add all the line items together, you get to about an 8% growth. And that is primarily because we changed that product and we have a higher annual dues rate.
Speaker #2: The term is , I think 2 to 4 years . And with ranging from 2 to $4000 . And , you know , the members want to have that extra time at the properties , take advantage of discounts on cabins , etc.
Marguerite Nader: The product as a whole has been very successful for our customers, our members wanting to get that upgrade and pay the additional dues.
Marguerite Nader: The product as a whole has been very successful for our customers, our members wanting to get that upgrade and pay the additional dues.
Speaker #2: . So right now that price is , I think is , is properly priced . And as we head into 27 , we would look to what increases we we would think that we should do in terms of , in terms of that product .
John Kim: Great. Thank you.
John Kim: Great. Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, John.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, John.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Haendel St. Juste of Mizuho Securities. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Haendel St. Juste of Mizuho Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: But the product as a whole has been very successful for our customers , our members wanting to to get that upgrade and , and pay the additional dues .
Haendel St. Juste: Hey there. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the OpEx guide for a bit. Again, I guess I understand that you don't want to get into the specific pieces of how much things like insurance are causing an adjustment for the guide, but I guess I was more curious on the oil side. Obviously, the cost of oil has picked up quite a bit this year, and I'm curious how you can hedge the future volatility in the price of oil, or what's contemplated in the guide and potentially how that can be hedged. Any color on what's being contemplated, how it can be offset, and how to think about that in the broader context of the prior guide versus the new guide. Thanks.
Haendel St. Juste: Hey there. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the OpEx guide for a bit. Again, I guess I understand that you don't want to get into the specific pieces of how much things like insurance are causing an adjustment for the guide, but I guess I was more curious on the oil side. Obviously, the cost of oil has picked up quite a bit this year, and I'm curious how you can hedge the future volatility in the price of oil, or what's contemplated in the guide and potentially how that can be hedged. Any color on what's being contemplated, how it can be offset, and how to think about that in the broader context of the prior guide versus the new guide. Thanks.
Speaker #9: Great . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Thanks , John .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Hendel Saint . Just of Mizuho Securities . Your line is open
Speaker #10: Hey there . Thanks for taking the question . I wanted to go back to the opex guide for a bit . Again , I guess I understand that you don't want to get into the specific pieces of how much things like insurance are or causing an adjustment for the guide , but I guess I was more curious on the the oil side .
Speaker #10: Obviously the cost of oil has picked up quite a bit this year . And I'm curious how you can hedge the future volatility in the price of oil , or how what's contemplated in the guide and potentially how that can be hedged .
Paul Seavey: Sure. Our process to update guidance considered the impact of the roughly 15% increase in oil price since December. We reviewed the pricing structure used by the utility providers in states where we operate. These include regulated, frankly, primarily regulated, and some deregulated markets. Utility providers in certain states like Florida do have pricing structures with variability clauses that allow them to recapture some portion of their costs if the regulated rates limit their ability to recapture price increases. As we looked at all of that, we increased our utility expense assumptions for the remainder of 2026.
Paul Seavey: Sure. Our process to update guidance considered the impact of the roughly 15% increase in oil price since December. We reviewed the pricing structure used by the utility providers in states where we operate. These include regulated, frankly, primarily regulated, and some deregulated markets. Utility providers in certain states like Florida do have pricing structures with variability clauses that allow them to recapture some portion of their costs if the regulated rates limit their ability to recapture price increases. As we looked at all of that, we increased our utility expense assumptions for the remainder of 2026.
Speaker #10: So, any color on what's being contemplated, how it can be offset, and how to think about that in the broader context of the prior guide versus the new guide.
Speaker #10: Thanks .
Speaker #4: Sure. So, our process to update guidance considered the impact of the, you know, roughly 15% increase in oil price since December.
Speaker #4: We reviewed the pricing structure used by the utility providers in states where we operate . These include regulated , frankly , primarily regulated and some deregulated markets .
Speaker #4: Utility providers in certain states like Florida do have pricing structures with variability clauses that allow them to recapture some portion of their costs .
Haendel St. Juste: Okay, fair enough. Appreciate that, I suppose. If I could squeeze in one just on the revised guidance for the non-core portfolio income, maybe some color on what's driving that and how to be thinking about modeling that. Is that fair just to perhaps ratably run that through the model the rest of the year? Thanks.
Haendel St. Juste: Okay, fair enough. Appreciate that, I suppose. If I could squeeze in one just on the revised guidance for the non-core portfolio income, maybe some color on what's driving that and how to be thinking about modeling that. Is that fair just to perhaps ratably run that through the model the rest of the year? Thanks.
Speaker #4: If the regulated rates limit their ability to recapture price increases . So as we looked at all of that , we increased our utility expense assumptions for the remainder of 2026 .
Speaker #10: Okay . Fair enough . I appreciate that . I suppose . And then if I could squeeze in one just on the revised guide for the non portfolio income , maybe some color on what's driving that and how to be thinking about modeling that .
Paul Seavey: Yeah. I think it relates to just improved expectations. A couple of the properties in that portfolio, primarily RV locations. You may recall that there are a number of properties that are in the non-core portfolio that were previously impacted by storms that were not operational. As they're recovering, we noticed some upside in the performance and the expected contribution, and that was the basis for the adjustment.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. I think it relates to just improved expectations. A couple of the properties in that portfolio, primarily RV locations. You may recall that there are a number of properties that are in the non-core portfolio that were previously impacted by storms that were not operational. As they're recovering, we noticed some upside in the performance and the expected contribution, and that was the basis for the adjustment.
Speaker #10: Is that fair ? Just to , you know , perhaps radically blow that through the model the rest of the year . Thanks .
Speaker #4: Yeah , I . Think it relates to just improved expectations . A couple of the properties in that portfolio , primarily RV locations , you may recall that there are a number of properties that are in the non-core portfolio that were previously impacted by storms that were not operational .
Haendel St. Juste: Got it. Thank you.
Haendel St. Juste: Got it. Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Speaker #4: And so, as they're recovering, we noticed some upside in the performance and the expected contribution. And that was the basis for the adjustment.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Brad Heffern of RBC. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Brad Heffern of RBC. Your line is open.
Brad Heffern: Yeah. Hey, everybody. Thanks. Historically, you've talked about weather being the primary swing factor on RV transient, and there hasn't really been an obvious impact from gas price movements. Obviously, with the war, we're seeing a much more dramatic and quick change in prices. Is there anything in your data that suggests that it might be having a negative impact on transient demand?
Brad Heffern: Yeah. Hey, everybody. Thanks. Historically, you've talked about weather being the primary swing factor on RV transient, and there hasn't really been an obvious impact from gas price movements. Obviously, with the war, we're seeing a much more dramatic and quick change in prices. Is there anything in your data that suggests that it might be having a negative impact on transient demand?
Speaker #10: Got it . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Brad Heffern of RBC . Your line is open .
Speaker #11: Yeah . Hey everybody . Thanks . Historically , you've talked about weather being the primary swing factor on RV transient . And there hasn't really been an obvious impact from gas price movements .
Marguerite Nader: Yeah. We've looked, certainly over many years, at gas prices and the effect on RV transient. Certainly, gas prices have made headline news over the past several weeks. Year-over-year, I think we've seen a 90-cent increase in the price of gas, not unlike what we saw during the pandemic, during times in the pandemic. We kind of think of it in terms of just what's the incremental cost to our customer. If you consider a three-night trip, our average customer is going about 90 miles to our locations. That higher gas price results in an increase of about $25 to $30 for the trip. If that's three nights, you're talking about $10 per night.
Marguerite Nader: Yeah. We've looked, certainly over many years, at gas prices and the effect on RV transient. Certainly, gas prices have made headline news over the past several weeks. Year-over-year, I think we've seen a 90-cent increase in the price of gas, not unlike what we saw during the pandemic, during times in the pandemic. We kind of think of it in terms of just what's the incremental cost to our customer. If you consider a three-night trip, our average customer is going about 90 miles to our locations. That higher gas price results in an increase of about $25 to $30 for the trip. If that's three nights, you're talking about $10 per night.
Speaker #11: Obviously, with the war, we're seeing a much more dramatic and quick change in prices. Is there anything in your data that suggests that it might be having a negative impact on transient demand?
Speaker #2: Yeah , we've you know , we've looked certainly over many years at gas prices and the effect , the effect on on RV transient and certainly gas prices have made headline news over the past several weeks , year over year .
Speaker #2: I think we've seen a, you know, 90% increase in the price of gas, not unlike what we saw during the pandemic.
Speaker #2: During times in the pandemic, but we kind of think of it in terms of just, what is it? What's the incremental cost to our customer?
Speaker #2: And if you consider a three-night trip, our average customer is going about 90 miles to our locations. That higher gas price results in an increase of about $2.53 for the trip.
Marguerite Nader: If you think about other vacation alternatives, the overall cost of RVing is really significantly lower and offers the flexibility of really being able to control your spend and also be able to control your environment. I think at the current rates, net, I think it can be a positive. Certainly, if you're talking about rates that are significantly higher or you're talking about supply issues, then you get into kind of maybe different conversations. I think where we're at right now, our customers are excited to get out there and use their RV.
Marguerite Nader: If you think about other vacation alternatives, the overall cost of RVing is really significantly lower and offers the flexibility of really being able to control your spend and also be able to control your environment. I think at the current rates, net, I think it can be a positive. Certainly, if you're talking about rates that are significantly higher or you're talking about supply issues, then you get into kind of maybe different conversations. I think where we're at right now, our customers are excited to get out there and use their RV.
Speaker #2: And , you know , if that's three nights you're talking about $10 per night . So if you think about other vacation alternatives , the overall cost of our RVing is , is really significantly lower and offers the flexibility of , of really being able to control your spend and also be able to control your environment .
Speaker #2: So I think at , at the current rates , net net , I think it , it can be a positive , you know , certainly if you're talking about rates that are significantly higher or you're talking about supply issues , you know , then I , you know , then you get into kind of maybe different conversations , but I think where we're at right now , our customers are excited to get out there and use their RV
Brad Heffern: Okay. Got it. Thanks for that. The Canadian tariffs kind of went into effect more than a year ago, so we should be starting to lap some of the comps on the boycotts. Are you seeing any evidence that those Canadian customers might be coming back or any other color that you can give around that?
Brad Heffern: Okay. Got it. Thanks for that. The Canadian tariffs kind of went into effect more than a year ago, so we should be starting to lap some of the comps on the boycotts. Are you seeing any evidence that those Canadian customers might be coming back or any other color that you can give around that?
Speaker #11: Okay . Got it . Thanks for that . And then , the Canadian tariffs kind of went into effect more than a year ago .
Paul Seavey: Yeah. We're just out of the summer season and the impact of the Canadians rolled through those results. I think it's early to call what we're going to see for the summer season. Certainly, we're in some unpredictable times. We'll provide updates as we start to get greater visibility into the next couple of quarters.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. We're just out of the summer season and the impact of the Canadians rolled through those results. I think it's early to call what we're going to see for the summer season. Certainly, we're in some unpredictable times. We'll provide updates as we start to get greater visibility into the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #11: So we should be starting to lap some of the comps on the boycotts . Are you seeing any evidence that those Canadian customers might be coming back or any other color that you can give around that
Speaker #3: Yeah , the we're we're just out of the summer season and the , the impact of the Canadians , you know , rolled through those results .
Brad Heffern: Okay. Thank you.
Brad Heffern: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #3: I think it's early to call what , what we're going to see for the summer season . And certainly we're in some unpredictable times .
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith of UBS. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith of UBS. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: But you know , we'll we'll provide updates as we as we start to get greater visibility into the next couple of quarters
Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Maybe just a follow-up on the seasonal and transient. Seems like the Q1 number was in line with the initial guidance. You're kind of guiding to a Q2 of down 9%, but then it's implied that the H2 is up about 3%. I was just wondering how you're thinking about that 3% growth in seasonal and transient in the H2. If that split, is that more Q4 weighted than Q3? Are you expecting, in the guidance, are you baking in kind of an acceleration in that Q4 as you lap some of that disruption from the Canadian customer? Thanks.
Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Maybe just a follow-up on the seasonal and transient. Seems like the Q1 number was in line with the initial guidance. You're kind of guiding to a Q2 of down 9%, but then it's implied that the H2 is up about 3%. I was just wondering how you're thinking about that 3% growth in seasonal and transient in the H2. If that split, is that more Q4 weighted than Q3? Are you expecting, in the guidance, are you baking in kind of an acceleration in that Q4 as you lap some of that disruption from the Canadian customer? Thanks.
Speaker #11: Okay . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith of UBS . Your line is open .
Speaker #9: Good morning .
Speaker #12: Thanks a lot for taking my question . Maybe just a follow up on on the seasonal and transient , you know , seems like the first quarter number was in line with the initial guidance .
Speaker #12: You're kind of guiding to the second quarter of down 9% . But then kind of implied it's implied that the back half is up about 3% .
Speaker #12: So I was just wondering , you know , how are you thinking about that 3% growth in seasonal and transient in the back half ?
Speaker #12: And if that split , you know , is that more fourth quarter weighted than third quarter ? And then are you expecting , you know , in the guidance , are you baking in kind of a , an acceleration in that fourth quarter as you lap some of that disruption from the Canadian customer ?
Paul Seavey: Sure. Broadly, Michael, as you said, the base rental income growth rate, it does reflect a 50 basis point decline to prior guidance. Half of that, as we talked about, is the marina. The remainder is heavily weighted to our seasonal expectation for Q2. That's mainly in April. Just to provide that color. As we think about the remainder of the year, as I said during my opening remarks, we've left the assumptions for Q3 and Q4 in place as they were budgeted, as we don't have great visibility into that activity.
Paul Seavey: Sure. Broadly, Michael, as you said, the base rental income growth rate, it does reflect a 50 basis point decline to prior guidance. Half of that, as we talked about, is the marina. The remainder is heavily weighted to our seasonal expectation for Q2. That's mainly in April. Just to provide that color. As we think about the remainder of the year, as I said during my opening remarks, we've left the assumptions for Q3 and Q4 in place as they were budgeted, as we don't have great visibility into that activity.
Speaker #12: Thanks .
Speaker #4: Sure . Broadly , Michael , as you said , the the base rental income growth rate , it does reflect a 50 basis point decline to prior guidance .
Speaker #4: You know , that half of that , as we talked about , is the Marina . The remainder is heavily weighted to our seasonal expectation for the second quarter .
Speaker #4: That's mainly in April , such as to provide that color . And then as we think about the remainder of the year , as I as I said , during our remarks , during my opening remarks , we've left the assumptions for third and fourth , for third and fourth quarters in place , as they were budgeted , as we don't have great visibility into that activity
Michael Goldsmith: As they were originally budgeted, does that bake in an assumption that you would get back some of the Canadian customers that didn't come in Q4 of 2025?
Michael Goldsmith: As they were originally budgeted, does that bake in an assumption that you would get back some of the Canadian customers that didn't come in Q4 of 2025?
Paul Seavey: We have an assumption in Q4 of a recovery of some of that. I wouldn't qualify it to Canadian customers. I think that as we've talked, the impact on the seasonal business provides an opportunity for us to backfill, excuse me, occupancy from customers, whether they're Canadian or domestic customers.
Paul Seavey: We have an assumption in Q4 of a recovery of some of that. I wouldn't qualify it to Canadian customers. I think that as we've talked, the impact on the seasonal business provides an opportunity for us to backfill, excuse me, occupancy from customers, whether they're Canadian or domestic customers.
Speaker #12: So as they were originally budgeted , was it was that does that make an assumption that you would get back some of the Canadian customers that didn't come this in fourth quarter of 25 ?
Speaker #4: We have an assumption in the fourth quarter of a recovery of some of that . I wouldn't qualify it to Canadian customers . I think that the .
Michael Goldsmith: Got it. Just a follow-up question on the home sale volumes and price, it looks like new sale volumes were down and the price per home was down, and then similarly on the used homes, I think they were also, at least the price was down. Presumably that's a mix shift, but can you provide a little bit more color in what's going on?
Michael Goldsmith: Got it. Just a follow-up question on the home sale volumes and price, it looks like new sale volumes were down and the price per home was down, and then similarly on the used homes, I think they were also, at least the price was down. Presumably that's a mix shift, but can you provide a little bit more color in what's going on?
Speaker #4: As we've talked , the impact on the seasonal business provides an opportunity for us to backfill . Excuse me , occupancy from customers , whether they're Canadian or domestic customers .
Speaker #12: Got it . And then just as my follow up question on the home sale volumes on price , it looks like new sales volumes were down and the rate on the price per home was down .
Paul Seavey: Yeah
Paul Seavey: Yeah
Michael Goldsmith: in the home sale market?
Michael Goldsmith: in the home sale market?
Paul Seavey: Yeah, sure. We continue to see steady demand. The beginning of the quarter was impacted by weather. It was winter, and that even bled down through many of the Southeast markets. As we worked our way through the quarter, we saw steady demand and feel good about the demand profile. Just with respect to the new and used sales, one, I wouldn't read too much into, in any particular quarter, the home sale price, because to your point, it has a lot to do with mix. Directionally, the price per on the new was up, and the price per on the used was down. All of that is with the backdrop of, we feel like we have steady demand in the MH portfolio.
Paul Seavey: Yeah, sure. We continue to see steady demand. The beginning of the quarter was impacted by weather. It was winter, and that even bled down through many of the Southeast markets. As we worked our way through the quarter, we saw steady demand and feel good about the demand profile. Just with respect to the new and used sales, one, I wouldn't read too much into, in any particular quarter, the home sale price, because to your point, it has a lot to do with mix. Directionally, the price per on the new was up, and the price per on the used was down. All of that is with the backdrop of, we feel like we have steady demand in the MH portfolio.
Speaker #12: And then similarly on the used homes , I think they were also the at least the price was down . So presumably that's makeshift .
Speaker #12: But can you provide a little bit more color in in what's going on in the market ?
Speaker #3: Yeah , sure . I mean , we continue to see steady demand . The beginning of the quarter was it was impacted by weather .
Speaker #3: It was winter . And that even bled down through many of the southeast markets . And as we work our way through the quarter , you know , we saw steady demand and , and feel good about the demand profile , you know , just with respect to the , the new and used sales , the one I wouldn't read too much into in any particular quarter .
Speaker #3: The , you know , the home sale price because to your point , it has a lot to do with mix . I mean , directionally the the , the price per on the new is up and the price per on the , on the used was down .
Michael Goldsmith: Thank you very much. Good luck in Q2.
Michael Goldsmith: Thank you very much. Good luck in Q2.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Michael.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Michael.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Wesley Golladay of Baird. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Wesley Golladay of Baird. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: But all of that is with the backdrop of we feel like we have steady demand in the, in the MH portfolio.
Wesley Golladay: Hi, everyone. Can you unpack the seasonal and domestic transient guests for Q1? Was that positive growth ex-Canadian?
Wesley Golladay: Hi, everyone. Can you unpack the seasonal and domestic transient guests for Q1? Was that positive growth ex-Canadian?
Speaker #12: Thank you very much. Good luck in the second quarter.
Speaker #2: Thanks , Michael .
Speaker #1: Thank you. And our next question comes from Wesley Golladay of Baird. Your line is open.
Paul Seavey: Yes. Overall, it was growth. It included the Canadian customer in the revenue, of course, but just to be clear, the marginal improvement was from customers that we saw booking seasonal stays during.
Paul Seavey: Yes. Overall, it was growth. It included the Canadian customer in the revenue, of course, but just to be clear, the marginal improvement was from customers that we saw booking seasonal stays during.
Speaker #13: Hi , everyone . Can you unpack the seasonal and domestic transient guests for the first quarter ? Was that positive growth ? Ex-canadian
Speaker #4: Yes , it was primarily Overall , it was growth . It did it . It included the Canadian customer in the revenue , of course .
Wesley Golladay: Could you unpack the domestic traveler? Was that positive? Has that customer segment bottomed, and do you have a positive outlook for that segment going forward?
Wesley Golladay: Could you unpack the domestic traveler? Was that positive? Has that customer segment bottomed, and do you have a positive outlook for that segment going forward?
Speaker #4: But just to be clear, the marginal improvement was from customers that we saw booking seasonal stays during—
Paul Seavey: The domestic seasonal customer is what you're asking. Sorry.
Paul Seavey: The domestic seasonal customer is what you're asking. Sorry.
Speaker #13: I guess the I mean , if you were to the . Could you unpack the the domestic traveler . Was that positive ? Has that customer segment bottomed and do you have a positive outlook for that segment going forward
Wesley Golladay: Yeah. Sorry. The domestic, seasonal, and transient segment. I'm trying to figure out how much of that was weighed down, or the outlook this year, maybe Canadian negative, but US domestic and transient guests positive. Just trying to unpack if that segment is bottoming out at the moment.
Wesley Golladay: Yeah. Sorry. The domestic, seasonal, and transient segment. I'm trying to figure out how much of that was weighed down, or the outlook this year, maybe Canadian negative, but US domestic and transient guests positive. Just trying to unpack if that segment is bottoming out at the moment.
Speaker #4: The domestic seasonal customer is what you're Sorry . Yeah , I'm not sure .
Speaker #13: I'm sorry . The domestic seasonal and transient segment . I'm trying to figure out how much of that was weighed down or the the outlook this year is , you know , maybe Canadian negative , but US domestic and transient guest positive , just trying to unpack if that is , you know , if that segment is bottoming out at the moment .
Paul Seavey: Well, I guess I'll say two things. One, as Patrick mentioned, we've ended our winter season and we're heading into our northern season. That's a very different customer, and different potential there. Maybe with respect to the seasonal, as we just think about the future, the coming winter season next year, maybe it'd be helpful to walk through some historical context on the reservation patterns for the winter season revenue. In the past, we would end our winter season with approximately 50% of the anticipated future winter season revenues booked. Those advanced reservations allowed customers to reserve the site that they wanted at the property, and didn't carry penalties for cancellation.
Paul Seavey: Well, I guess I'll say two things. One, as Patrick mentioned, we've ended our winter season and we're heading into our northern season. That's a very different customer, and different potential there. Maybe with respect to the seasonal, as we just think about the future, the coming winter season next year, maybe it'd be helpful to walk through some historical context on the reservation patterns for the winter season revenue. In the past, we would end our winter season with approximately 50% of the anticipated future winter season revenues booked. Those advanced reservations allowed customers to reserve the site that they wanted at the property, and didn't carry penalties for cancellation.
Speaker #4: Well , I guess I'll say two things . One , as we as Patrick mentioned , we've ended our winter season and we're heading into our northern season .
Speaker #4: So that's a very back to the seasonal as we just think about the future , the coming winter season , next year , maybe be helpful to walk through some historical context on the reservation patterns for the winter season .
Speaker #4: Revenue. I mean, in the past, we would end our winter season with approximately 50% of the anticipated future winter season revenues booked.
Paul Seavey: Following a fair amount of booking and cancellation activity after Q1 and into the summer months, by the end of any winter season, roughly a third of the revenue that was generated during the winter season came from those advanced bookings. Start the season with 50% of the revenue booked, end with about a third after all the cancellations. As we think about it now, there's been a meaningful disruption to the seasonal business, we think, that we've talked about as a result of the domestic and the Canadian relations. We look at it in terms of engagement, and as we sit here right now, 50% of the in-place guests have reserved space for next year, and that compares to 47% of the in-place guests last year.
Paul Seavey: Following a fair amount of booking and cancellation activity after Q1 and into the summer months, by the end of any winter season, roughly a third of the revenue that was generated during the winter season came from those advanced bookings. Start the season with 50% of the revenue booked, end with about a third after all the cancellations. As we think about it now, there's been a meaningful disruption to the seasonal business, we think, that we've talked about as a result of the domestic and the Canadian relations. We look at it in terms of engagement, and as we sit here right now, 50% of the in-place guests have reserved space for next year, and that compares to 47% of the in-place guests last year.
Speaker #4: Those advanced reservations allowed customers to reserve the site that they wanted at the property and didn't carry penalties for cancellation . Then , following a fair amount of booking and cancellation activity after the first quarter and into the summer months , by the end of any winter season , roughly a third of the revenue that was generated .
Speaker #4: During the winter season, we came from those advanced bookings. So, we start the season with 50% of the revenue booked and end with about a third.
Speaker #4: After all , the cancellations . And so as we think about it now , there's been a meaningful disruption to to the seasonal business .
Speaker #4: We think that we've talked about as a result of the domestic and the Canadian relations . And so , you know , we look at it in terms of engagement .
Wesley Golladay: Okay. Got that. Thank you for that. One more, I guess, bigger picture question. With the rise of artificial intelligence and the way people are searching for product these days, are you noticing any change in the way you source your residents or seasonal and transient guests?
Wesley Golladay: Okay. Got that. Thank you for that. One more, I guess, bigger picture question. With the rise of artificial intelligence and the way people are searching for product these days, are you noticing any change in the way you source your residents or seasonal and transient guests?
Speaker #4: And as we sit here right now , 50% of the in-place guests have reserved space for next year . And that compares to 47% of the in-place guests last year .
Speaker #13: Okay . Got that . Thank you for that . And then one more bigger picture question . You know , with the rise of artificial intelligence and the way people are searching for products these days , are you noticing any change in the way you source your residents or seasonal transient guests ?
Marguerite Nader: Certainly, our marketing department is very focused on using artificial intelligence inside of our search options, understanding and appreciating how customers are searching for our offerings. It is no longer kind of a simple, campgrounds in Maine. It's a much more robust search, and we're focused on making certain that once that search is put in place and once the person indicates what exactly they're looking for, we are able to have our communities and our resorts come up at the top of the list. A lot of that is a function of our websites have been around for a really long time, and they have a really high number of reviews, which is very helpful for that algorithm.
Marguerite Nader: Certainly, our marketing department is very focused on using artificial intelligence inside of our search options, understanding and appreciating how customers are searching for our offerings. It is no longer kind of a simple, campgrounds in Maine. It's a much more robust search, and we're focused on making certain that once that search is put in place and once the person indicates what exactly they're looking for, we are able to have our communities and our resorts come up at the top of the list. A lot of that is a function of our websites have been around for a really long time, and they have a really high number of reviews, which is very helpful for that algorithm.
Speaker #2: Certainly our marketing department is very focused on on using artificial intelligence inside of our search options , understanding and appreciating how customers are searching for our offerings .
Speaker #2: It is no longer kind of a simple , you know , campgrounds in Maine . It's much a much more robust search . And , and we're focused on making certain that once that search is put in place and once the person indicates what exactly they're looking for , we are able to , you know , have our communities and our resorts come up at the top of the list .
Wesley Golladay: Yeah. Great. Thank you very much.
Wesley Golladay: Yeah. Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #2: And a lot of that is a function of our , our websites have been around for a really long time and they have a really high number of reviews , which is very helpful for that algorithm .
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Wang of Barclays. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Wang of Barclays. Your line is open.
Speaker #13: Yeah . Great . Thank you very much .
Jason Wang: Thank you. Good morning.
Jason Wayne: Thank you. Good morning.
Speaker #2: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Jason Wayne of Barclays . Your line is open
Operator: Good morning.
Marguerite Nader: Good morning.
Jason Wang: Looking at the RV marina annual guidance cut, so that was driven primarily by transient and marinas. Can you just give any color on how rent growth and occupancy trends in RV annual, specifically in Q1, and what your assumptions are for the rest of the year on RV annual, specifically?
Jason Wayne: Looking at the RV marina annual guidance cut, so that was driven primarily by transient and marinas. Can you just give any color on how rent growth and occupancy trends in RV annual, specifically in Q1, and what your assumptions are for the rest of the year on RV annual, specifically?
Speaker #14: Thank you. Good morning. Just looking at the RV and marina at morning, looking at the RV marina. Annual guidance cut.
Speaker #14: So that was driven by primarily by transient and Marina's . So can you just give any color on how rent growth and occupancy trended in RV annual specifically in the first quarter on what your assumptions are for the rest of the year for the annual specifically
Paul Seavey: Well, the RV annual, when we reported in October, we provided our guide for rate growth. That was 5.1%, and that's been consistent. We anticipate that to be consistent for 2026. We're seeing no change from that. In terms of occupancy, we had roughly 100 sites that we were down in Q1, and we anticipate, as Patrick was talking, recovery of those sites and addition of annual sites throughout the year.
Paul Seavey: Well, the RV annual, when we reported in October, we provided our guide for rate growth. That was 5.1%, and that's been consistent. We anticipate that to be consistent for 2026. We're seeing no change from that. In terms of occupancy, we had roughly 100 sites that we were down in Q1, and we anticipate, as Patrick was talking, recovery of those sites and addition of annual sites throughout the year.
Speaker #4: Both the RV annual . We were . When we reported in October , we . We provided our guide for rate growth . That was 5.1% and that's been consistent .
Speaker #4: And we anticipate that to be consistent for for 2026 , we're seeing no change from that . And in terms of occupancy , we had roughly 100 sites that we were down in the first quarter , and we anticipate , as Patrick was talking recovery of those sites and addition of annual sites throughout the year
Jason Wang: Got it. Then it looks like there were some other sites added this quarter. Just curious where those new sites were added, if that was all in the markets you mentioned earlier, and if there's any that are expected to come online this year in those markets and maybe outside them.
Jason Wayne: Got it. Then it looks like there were some other sites added this quarter. Just curious where those new sites were added, if that was all in the markets you mentioned earlier, and if there's any that are expected to come online this year in those markets and maybe outside them.
Speaker #14: Got it. And then it looks like there were some other sites added this quarter. Just curious where those new sites were added, if that was all in kind of the market.
Paul Seavey: We didn't add sites in the quarter. We did have some shifting in our reporting. A couple of things in terms of just the presentation of sites in our earnings release, if that's what you're referring to. To provide greater visibility and clarity on the composition of sites in our JV portfolio, we reported those a bit differently and showed those in the categories with footnote disclosure that they relate to the JVs. We also, annually, at the end of Q1, true up our seasonal site count for the number of seasonal customers that we had during the winter season. That adjustment was made, and with that adjustment, the transient site count was offset or adjusted accordingly.
Paul Seavey: We didn't add sites in the quarter. We did have some shifting in our reporting. A couple of things in terms of just the presentation of sites in our earnings release, if that's what you're referring to. To provide greater visibility and clarity on the composition of sites in our JV portfolio, we reported those a bit differently and showed those in the categories with footnote disclosure that they relate to the JVs. We also, annually, at the end of Q1, true up our seasonal site count for the number of seasonal customers that we had during the winter season. That adjustment was made, and with that adjustment, the transient site count was offset or adjusted accordingly.
Speaker #14: You mentioned earlier, and if there’s any that are expected to come online this year, and those markets maybe outside them.
Speaker #4: We didn't we didn't add sites in the quarter . We did have some shifting in our reporting . So a couple of things in terms of just the presentation of sites in our earnings release , if that's what you're referring to , to provide greater visibility and clarity on the composition of sites in our JV portfolio , we we reported those a bit differently and showed those in the categories with footnote disclosure that that they relate to the JVs .
Speaker #4: And then we also, annually at the end of the first quarter, drew up our seasonal site count for the number of seasonal customers that we had during the winter season.
Jason Wang: All right. Got it. Thank you.
Jason Wayne: All right. Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #4: So that adjustment was made. And with that adjustment, the transient site count was offset or adjusted accordingly.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from David Segal of Green Street. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from David Segal of Green Street. Your line is open.
Speaker #14: All right. Got it. Thank you.
David Segal: Hey, thank you. Just to follow up on the site count changes, what do you think are the prospects for reclassifying those sites that were converted from or were classified from seasonal transient back to seasonal later this year? Or is that more of a 2027 event?
David Segall: Hey, thank you. Just to follow up on the site count changes, what do you think are the prospects for reclassifying those sites that were converted from or were classified from seasonal transient back to seasonal later this year? Or is that more of a 2027 event?
Speaker #2: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from David Segal of Green Street . Your line is open .
Speaker #9: Hey. Thank you. Just to.
Speaker #15: Follow up on the site, count changes. What do you think are the prospects for reclassifying those sites that were converted from, or were from, seasonal transient back to seasonal later this year?
Paul Seavey: Yeah. Our practice is to update that at the end of Q1 based on what we saw during the winter season. We would anticipate doing that a year from now.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. Our practice is to update that at the end of Q1 based on what we saw during the winter season. We would anticipate doing that a year from now.
Speaker #15: Or is that more of a 2027 event ?
David Segal: Great. Thank you. Appreciate the color on local home prices that you gave earlier in the call. I'm curious what your thoughts are on the impact of stagnating or lowering prices in the local for-sale market would be on the MH values and ability to increase rents. Just implicitly, what do you expect the spread between stick-built homes in your markets to MH home values to remain stable, or do you think it would narrow?
David Segall: Great. Thank you. Appreciate the color on local home prices that you gave earlier in the call. I'm curious what your thoughts are on the impact of stagnating or lowering prices in the local for-sale market would be on the MH values and ability to increase rents. Just implicitly, what do you expect the spread between stick-built homes in your markets to MH home values to remain stable, or do you think it would narrow?
Speaker #4: Yeah , I practice our practice is to update that at the end of the first quarter , based on what we saw during the winter season .
Speaker #4: So, we would anticipate doing that a year from now.
Speaker #15: Great . Thank you . And appreciate the color on local home prices that you gave earlier in the call . I'm curious what your thoughts are on the impact of , you know , stagnating or , you lowering prices and the local for sale market would , would be on the MH values and ability to increase rents and just kind of implicitly what , you know , what do you expect the spread between stick built homes in your markets to ?
Paul Seavey: Yeah. I guess first I'd put into context the value proposition that I addressed in my prepared remarks is very attractive and is a wide moat to the next market on single family. We have a strong value proposition, even if there was some moderation in single-family home pricing, and we've seen that historically we've had consistent occupancy and consistent home sales, even in up cycles and more moderate cycles. I think that's our reasonable expectation as we look forward to 2026. I'd also highlight that those key markets that I highlighted have a very consistent demand profile, including in single family in the mid-tier across each one of those sub-markets.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. I guess first I'd put into context the value proposition that I addressed in my prepared remarks is very attractive and is a wide moat to the next market on single family. We have a strong value proposition, even if there was some moderation in single-family home pricing, and we've seen that historically we've had consistent occupancy and consistent home sales, even in up cycles and more moderate cycles. I think that's our reasonable expectation as we look forward to 2026. I'd also highlight that those key markets that I highlighted have a very consistent demand profile, including in single family in the mid-tier across each one of those sub-markets.
Speaker #15: MH home values to remain stable ? Or do you think it would narrow
Speaker #3: Yeah , let me I guess first I'd put it in the context of value proposition that I that I addressed in my prepared remarks a is a is very attractive and is a wide band to the to the next mark on on single family .
Speaker #3: So we have a , we have a strong value proposition . Even if there was some moderation in single family home pricing . And we've seen that historically that that we've had consistent occupancy and consistent home sales even in , in UPS up cycles and more moderate cycles .
Speaker #3: So I think that's , you know , that's our reasonable expectation as we look forward to , to 2026 . And I also highlight that those key markets that I , that I highlighted have a , have a very consistent demand profile , including in , you know , single family in the mid-tier across each one of those , each one of those submarkets
David Segal: Great. Thank you.
David Segall: Great. Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Abramowitz of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Abramowitz of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Speaker #15: Great . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Thank you .
Speaker #6: Thanks .
Peter Abramowitz: Yes. Thank you for taking the question. Just wondering, could you give us kind of a refresher on general demographics of your transient customer base? I think age, average income levels would be helpful. I know you talked about the impact of oil prices on decisions around transient travel. Just generally, what are the demographics of that customer base? Also, maybe some of the broader macro factors like job growth, anything we should be watching for or thinking about as it relates to results through the rest of the year?
Peter Abramowitz: Yes. Thank you for taking the question. Just wondering, could you give us kind of a refresher on general demographics of your transient customer base? I think age, average income levels would be helpful. I know you talked about the impact of oil prices on decisions around transient travel. Just generally, what are the demographics of that customer base? Also, maybe some of the broader macro factors like job growth, anything we should be watching for or thinking about as it relates to results through the rest of the year?
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Peter Abramowitz of Deutsche Bank . Your line is open
Speaker #13: Yes, thank you for taking the question. Just wondering, could you give us kind of a refresher on the general demographics of your transient customer base?
Speaker #13: I think age , average income levels would be helpful . And I know you talked about the impact of oil prices on on decisions around transient travel , but just generally what are the demographics of that customer ?
Marguerite Nader: I guess the demographics of our transient customer really varies by region. In the northern part of the country, the Northeast and the Midwest, it's really family camping. You're talking about a 40, 50-year-old couple with a couple of children, and they come out on a weekend basis. They're generally employed, full-time workers, and just have the time when they have time off from their jobs to be able to camp. Then very differently, in the South and Southwest, in Florida, Arizona, et cetera, our transient camper tends to be a retired couple who tends to go and stay in a few different locations and has just more time on their hands to be able to work their way through our properties and through our system.
Marguerite Nader: I guess the demographics of our transient customer really varies by region. In the northern part of the country, the Northeast and the Midwest, it's really family camping. You're talking about a 40, 50-year-old couple with a couple of children, and they come out on a weekend basis. They're generally employed, full-time workers, and just have the time when they have time off from their jobs to be able to camp. Then very differently, in the South and Southwest, in Florida, Arizona, et cetera, our transient camper tends to be a retired couple who tends to go and stay in a few different locations and has just more time on their hands to be able to work their way through our properties and through our system.
Speaker #13: And then also maybe some of the broader macro factors like job growth , anything we should be watching for thinking about as it relates to results through the rest of the year ?
Speaker #2: I guess the demographics of our transient customer really varies by region . So in the northern part of the country , the northeast and the Midwest , it's really family camping .
Speaker #2: So you're talking about a couple . 40 , 50 year old couple with a couple of children , and they come out on a , you know , on a weekend basis and they're generally generally employed , you know , full time workers and , and just have the time when they have their , when they have time off from their , their jobs to be able to camp and then very differently in the , in the South .
Speaker #2: South and southwest and Florida , Arizona , etc. we have our transient camper tends to be a retired retired couple who tends to go and stay in a few different locations and has just more time on their hands to be able to work their way through our properties and through our system
Peter Abramowitz: Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate that. Just one more on the scope of the work with marinas. I think you mentioned it was three properties specifically. Can you share where they are? Is there any sort of offsetting revenue pickup in 2027, or is this just work to get the properties back online and back on the trajectory that you previously expected?
Peter Abramowitz: Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate that. Just one more on the scope of the work with marinas. I think you mentioned it was three properties specifically. Can you share where they are? Is there any sort of offsetting revenue pickup in 2027, or is this just work to get the properties back online and back on the trajectory that you previously expected?
Speaker #13: Okay . That's helpful . I appreciate that . And then just one more on the scope of the work at the Marina's , I think you mentioned it was three properties specifically .
Speaker #13: Can you share where they are ? And then is there any sort of kind of offsetting revenue pickup in 27 , or is this just work to kind of get the properties back online and , you know , kind of back on the trajectory that you , you previously expected ?
Marguerite Nader: Yeah. The properties are all in Florida. Three properties are in Florida, and yes, certainly there is a revenue pickup in 2027. There's upside in 2027 for these assets, because there is a high demand for these slips to be brought online. They'll be filled, and then we'll be recognizing that revenue in 2027.
Marguerite Nader: Yeah. The properties are all in Florida. Three properties are in Florida, and yes, certainly there is a revenue pickup in 2027. There's upside in 2027 for these assets, because there is a high demand for these slips to be brought online. They'll be filled, and then we'll be recognizing that revenue in 2027.
Speaker #2: Yeah , the properties are all in Florida . Three properties are in Florida . And yeah , certainly there is a revenue pickup in 27 .
Peter Abramowitz: All right. Thank you.
Peter Abramowitz: All right. Thank you.
Speaker #2: There's upside in 27 for these assets because there is high demand for these slips to be brought online . They'll be filled . And then we'll be recognized in that revenue in 27 .
Operator: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Adam Kramer of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Adam Kramer of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Speaker #13: All right . Thank you
Adam Kramer: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for the time. Just wanted to ask about capital allocation priorities here. I think in particular, development seems like a really interesting opportunity, given, I think, what you've talked about for yields historically versus what acquisition yields would be today. Just wondering, again, general capital allocation priorities or stack ranking them, and then I think with development in particular, is there an ability or an interest in flexing that beyond, I think the sort of 700 to 1,000 sites you've talked about on an annual basis?
Adam Kramer: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for the time. Just wanted to ask about capital allocation priorities here. I think in particular, development seems like a really interesting opportunity, given, I think, what you've talked about for yields historically versus what acquisition yields would be today. Just wondering, again, general capital allocation priorities or stack ranking them, and then I think with development in particular, is there an ability or an interest in flexing that beyond, I think the sort of 700 to 1,000 sites you've talked about on an annual basis?
Speaker #1: Thank you .
Speaker #16: Thank you
Speaker #1: And our next question comes from Adam Kramer of Morgan Stanley . Your line is open .
Speaker #17: Hey , good morning guys . Thanks for the time . I just wanted to ask about capital allocation priorities here . I think in particular , right .
Speaker #17: Development seems like a really interesting opportunity , you know , given I think what you've talked about for yields historically versus , you know , what , what acquisition yields would be today .
Speaker #17: So just wondering again , general capital allocation priorities of stack ranking them . And then I think with development in particular , is there an ability or , you know , an interest in sort of flexing that beyond , I think , the sort of 700 to 1000 sites you've talked about on an annual basis ?
Patrick Waite: Yeah, sure. On the development front, over the last three years, we've brought online a little over 2,000 sites. That's been a mix of MH and RV, highly focused on our core markets in the Sun Belt. This year, it looks to be in the range of 200 to 400 sites. That deceleration is not an indication of our desire to continue developing our expansion sites, but it's just a cadence of projects as they're working their way through an approval process, and then getting a shovel in the ground. Those yields, we continue to expect to be in the high single digits. The properties that we're focused on for the upcoming year are in Florida, and then we have another one out on the West Coast.
Patrick Waite: Yeah, sure. On the development front, over the last three years, we've brought online a little over 2,000 sites. That's been a mix of MH and RV, highly focused on our core markets in the Sun Belt. This year, it looks to be in the range of 200 to 400 sites. That deceleration is not an indication of our desire to continue developing our expansion sites, but it's just a cadence of projects as they're working their way through an approval process, and then getting a shovel in the ground. Those yields, we continue to expect to be in the high single digits. The properties that we're focused on for the upcoming year are in Florida, and then we have another one out on the West Coast.
Speaker #3: Yeah , sure . It's on the development front over the last three years , we've brought online a little over 2000 sites . That's been a mix of MH and RV , highly focused on our core markets in the Sunbelt .
Speaker #3: This year , we looks to be in the range of 2 to 400 sites that deceleration is not a is not an indication of our desire to continue developing our expansion sites , but it's just a cadence of projects as they're working their way through an approval process and then getting a shovel in the ground .
Speaker #3: You know , those yields , you know , we continue to expect to be in the high single digits . The properties that we're focused on for the upcoming year are in Florida .
Adam Kramer: Great. Thanks. Maybe switching gears, a little more of a bigger picture question. Just on the policy side of things, I think the ROAD to Housing Act has a number of elements related to manufactured housing in it. I think the permanent chassis requirement getting removed is sort of a big one, but also some financing elements, push for factory-built housing, a number of others. Just wondering, again, sort of open-ended question here, maybe the company's thoughts, just on the Act and what it might mean for the industry and then potential read-throughs to ELS specifically.
Adam Kramer: Great. Thanks. Maybe switching gears, a little more of a bigger picture question. Just on the policy side of things, I think the ROAD to Housing Act has a number of elements related to manufactured housing in it. I think the permanent chassis requirement getting removed is sort of a big one, but also some financing elements, push for factory-built housing, a number of others. Just wondering, again, sort of open-ended question here, maybe the company's thoughts, just on the Act and what it might mean for the industry and then potential read-throughs to ELS specifically.
Speaker #3: And then we have another one out on the West Coast
Speaker #17: Great . Thanks . And then maybe switching gears a little bit more of a bigger picture question just on the policy side of things , I think the sort of road to Housing Act has a number of elements related to manufactured housing in it .
Speaker #17: I think the permanent chassis requirement getting removed is sort of a big one, but also some financing elements push for factory-built housing, and a number of others.
Patrick Waite: I think overall, I would say that it would be helpful to the industry for the points that you just highlighted. Specifically to ELS, and variability in manufactured housing setup may provide an opportunity for us. I think there's broader opportunities for the manufacturers. We are closely tracking the progress on that legislation, and just given the current state of affairs in DC, that bill has stalled for all practical purposes. I think there's still a desire to move it forward, but we'll continue to monitor. We can provide updates on future calls as we get some more insight.
Patrick Waite: I think overall, I would say that it would be helpful to the industry for the points that you just highlighted. Specifically to ELS, and variability in manufactured housing setup may provide an opportunity for us. I think there's broader opportunities for the manufacturers. We are closely tracking the progress on that legislation, and just given the current state of affairs in DC, that bill has stalled for all practical purposes. I think there's still a desire to move it forward, but we'll continue to monitor. We can provide updates on future calls as we get some more insight.
Speaker #17: So just wondering again , sort of open ended question here , you know , sort of the , maybe the company's thoughts just just on the act and what it might mean for the industry .
Speaker #17: And then potential read through to , you know , TLS specifically .
Speaker #3: I mean, overall, I would say that it would be helpful to the industry for the points that you just highlighted, specifically to L's, and variability in manufactured housing setup may provide an opportunity for us.
Speaker #3: I think there's a broader opportunity for the manufacturers . We , you know , our our close to tracking what what is the progress on that legislation ?
Speaker #3: And just given the , the current state of affairs in DC , that that bill has , has stalled for all practical purposes , I , I think there's there's still a desire to move it forward , but we'll have to we'll continue to monitor .
Adam Kramer: Great. Thanks for the time.
Adam Kramer: Great. Thanks for the time.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Sakwa of Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Sakwa of Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: We can provide updates on future calls as we get some more insight .
Steve Sakwa: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. A lot of questions have been asked and answered. I just wanted to kind of circle back on the MH occupancy point. I guess whether you look at the data on page 9 or the data on page 7, slightly different numbers, but kind of paints the same sort of broad picture, which is the site count has gone up year over year, but the number of occupied sites is actually down when you look at the ending 31 March 2026 versus 31 March 2025. I think Patrick mentioned that you guys added about 500 expansion sites maybe over the course of the past year.
Steve Sakwa: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. A lot of questions have been asked and answered. I just wanted to kind of circle back on the MH occupancy point. I guess whether you look at the data on page 9 or the data on page 7, slightly different numbers, but kind of paints the same sort of broad picture, which is the site count has gone up year over year, but the number of occupied sites is actually down when you look at the ending 31 March 2026 versus 31 March 2025. I think Patrick mentioned that you guys added about 500 expansion sites maybe over the course of the past year.
Speaker #17: Great. Thanks for the time.
Speaker #2: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you And our next question comes from Steve Sakwa of Evercore ISI . Your line is open .
Speaker #18: Yeah . Thanks . Good morning . A lot of questions have been asked and answered . I just wanted to kind of circle back on the the MH occupancy point , I guess whether you kind of look at the data on page nine or the data on page seven , slightly different numbers , but kind of paints the same sort of broad picture , which is the site count has gone up , you know , year over year .
Speaker #18: But the number of occupied sites is actually down. When you kind of look at the ending March 31st, '26 versus March 31st, '25.
Steve Sakwa: Maybe just talk about that lease-up process, and are you still doing expansions at the same pace given that the occupancy has kind of been trailing down, or how do you sort of think about that development lease-up pace and future builds?
Steve Sakwa: Maybe just talk about that lease-up process, and are you still doing expansions at the same pace given that the occupancy has kind of been trailing down, or how do you sort of think about that development lease-up pace and future builds?
Speaker #18: And I think Patrick mentioned you guys added about 500 expansion sites , maybe over the course of the past year . So maybe just talk about that .
Patrick Waite: Yeah. Well, just high level on the occupancy front, just a reminder that as we made our way through 2024 and 2025, the hurricane impact from the 2024 season was basically 300 occupied sites. We're working through building that back. With respect to our expansions, we've completed some very solid recent expansions, in particular in Florida and Arizona. The lease-up rates there, I would expect to be anywhere in the range of 20 to 30 sites, potentially as high as 40. That's really going to depend on macro factors and then what's going on in the individual submarkets. If you're leasing up in this space somewhere between the neighborhood of 20 and 40 sites on an annual basis, that's a good run rate. These expansions are part of very solid core properties and solid submarkets.
Patrick Waite: Yeah. Well, just high level on the occupancy front, just a reminder that as we made our way through 2024 and 2025, the hurricane impact from the 2024 season was basically 300 occupied sites. We're working through building that back. With respect to our expansions, we've completed some very solid recent expansions, in particular in Florida and Arizona. The lease-up rates there, I would expect to be anywhere in the range of 20 to 30 sites, potentially as high as 40. That's really going to depend on macro factors and then what's going on in the individual submarkets. If you're leasing up in this space somewhere between the neighborhood of 20 and 40 sites on an annual basis, that's a good run rate. These expansions are part of very solid core properties and solid submarkets.
Speaker #18: Lease up process . And are you still doing expansions at the same pace , given that the occupancy has kind of been trailing down , or how do you sort of think about that development lease up pace and future builds ?
Speaker #3: Yeah , well , I just high level occupancy front . Just a reminder that as we made our way through 24 and 25 , the hurricane impact from the 24 season was was basically 300 occupied sites .
Speaker #3: So we're working through building that back up with respect to , you know , our expansions , you know , we've completed some very solid recent expansions .
Speaker #3: In particular in Florida and Arizona . You know , the lease up rates there . You know , I would expect it to be anywhere in the range of 20 to 30 sites , potentially as high as 40 .
Speaker #3: And that's really going to depend on , you know , macro factors . And then what's going on in the individual submarkets . But if you're if you're leasing up in this space somewhere between the neighborhood of 20 and 40 sites on an annual basis , that's a , that's a good run rate .
Patrick Waite: They'll continue to contribute to occupancy over the next couple of years to reach stabilization. As I mentioned a little earlier, we have a desire to continue those types of projects. We have others in the pipeline, and we can talk about those more as we approach 2027 and 2028.
Patrick Waite: They'll continue to contribute to occupancy over the next couple of years to reach stabilization. As I mentioned a little earlier, we have a desire to continue those types of projects. We have others in the pipeline, and we can talk about those more as we approach 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #3: These properties are expansions are part of , you know , very solid core properties and solid submarkets . So they'll continue to contribute to occupancy over the next couple of years to reach stabilization .
Speaker #3: And then as I mentioned a little earlier , we have a we have a desire to continue those types of projects . We have others in the pipeline and we can talk about those more as we as we approach 2027 and 2028 .
Steve Sakwa: Just as a quick follow-up, Patrick, is it your expectation that occupancy, given the hurricanes and the expansions, would you expect occupancy, whether it's an average or a spot to be bottoming in 2026 and then moving higher in 2027 or 2028? Or could you envision where occupancy is even down next year as you're kind of working through the pace of that and then it kind of starts to take off in 2028?
Steve Sakwa: Just as a quick follow-up, Patrick, is it your expectation that occupancy, given the hurricanes and the expansions, would you expect occupancy, whether it's an average or a spot to be bottoming in 2026 and then moving higher in 2027 or 2028? Or could you envision where occupancy is even down next year as you're kind of working through the pace of that and then it kind of starts to take off in 2028?
Speaker #18: So just as a quick follow up , Patrick , is it your expectation that occupancy , given the hurricanes and the expansions ? Would you would you expect occupancy , whether it's an average or a spot to be bottoming in 26 and then moving higher in 27 or 28 , or could you envision where occupancy is even down next year as you're kind of working through the pace of that ?
Patrick Waite: I would expect that we're going to increase occupancy in the MH portfolio on a consistent basis over time. That doesn't mean that we're not going to have an external catalyst that's a disruption to the business model temporarily, but we have a long history of continuing to increase the occupancy. Even backfilling the impacts of the hurricanes that I referenced show a very steady demand profile.
Patrick Waite: I would expect that we're going to increase occupancy in the MH portfolio on a consistent basis over time. That doesn't mean that we're not going to have an external catalyst that's a disruption to the business model temporarily, but we have a long history of continuing to increase the occupancy. Even backfilling the impacts of the hurricanes that I referenced show a very steady demand profile.
Speaker #18: And then it kind of starts to take off in '28?
Speaker #3: I , I would expect that we're going to increase occupancy in the portfolio on a , on a consistent basis over time that , you know , that doesn't mean that that we're not going to have a external catalyst .
Speaker #3: That's a disruption to the business model temporarily. But we have a long history of continuing to increase the occupancy and even backfilling the impacts of the hurricanes that I referenced show a very steady demand profile.
Steve Sakwa: Great. That's it for me. Thanks.
Steve Sakwa: Great. That's it for me. Thanks.
Paul Seavey: Thanks, Steve.
Paul Seavey: Thanks, Steve.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up from Eric Wolfe of Citi. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up from Eric Wolfe of Citi. Your line is open.
Eric Wolfe: Hey, thanks for taking these other questions. If I look at your guidance changes in the supplemental, it adds up to almost +$0.02 of positive benefit. I was just wondering what's offsetting that?
Eric Wolfe: Hey, thanks for taking these other questions. If I look at your guidance changes in the supplemental, it adds up to almost +$0.02 of positive benefit. I was just wondering what's offsetting that?
Speaker #18: Great. That's it for me. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thanks , Steve .
Speaker #1: Thank you. And we have a follow-up from Eric Wolf of Citi. Your line is open.
Paul Seavey: Sure. Eric, we have maintained full year normalized FFO per share guidance, though there are a lot of changes, as you mentioned. You can see the items that increased. The main offset in the updated guidance relates to assumptions for our income from home sales and ancillary operations.
Paul Seavey: Sure. Eric, we have maintained full year normalized FFO per share guidance, though there are a lot of changes, as you mentioned. You can see the items that increased. The main offset in the updated guidance relates to assumptions for our income from home sales and ancillary operations.
Speaker #8: Hey, thanks for taking the other questions. If I look at your guidance changes in the supplemental, it adds up to almost $0.02.
Speaker #8: Positive benefit . Just wondering what's offsetting that .
Speaker #4: Sure . Eric , we have maintained full year normalized FFO per share guidance , though there are a lot of changes . As you mentioned , you know , you can see the the items that increased the main offset in the updated guidance relates to assumptions for our income from home sales and ancillary operations
Eric Wolfe: Got it. That's helpful. You mentioned some adjustments to April seasonal. Was that just, I guess, the number of customers that typically extend their stays? You just saw a little bit less extending their stays this year. Do you think that was perhaps due to sort of the greater shift towards domestic customers versus Canadian, or is there some other factor around that?
Eric Wolfe: Got it. That's helpful. You mentioned some adjustments to April seasonal. Was that just, I guess, the number of customers that typically extend their stays? You just saw a little bit less extending their stays this year. Do you think that was perhaps due to sort of the greater shift towards domestic customers versus Canadian, or is there some other factor around that?
Speaker #8: Got it . That's helpful . And then you mentioned some adjustments April seasonal just , I guess , the customers that typically extend their stays ?
Marguerite Nader: A lot of what we see, Eric, in April is really weather related, where people are saying, "Okay, it's nice enough up north, we can head up north, and no longer need to seek refuge in Florida from the cold." That's kind of what we saw. You see that same effect in October where some people stay longer if you have a longer summer in September and October. We just saw people returning back north quicker than anticipated.
Marguerite Nader: A lot of what we see, Eric, in April is really weather related, where people are saying, "Okay, it's nice enough up north, we can head up north, and no longer need to seek refuge in Florida from the cold." That's kind of what we saw. You see that same effect in October where some people stay longer if you have a longer summer in September and October. We just saw people returning back north quicker than anticipated.
Speaker #8: So you just saw a little bit less extending their stays this year . And do you think that was , you know , perhaps due to sort of a greater shift towards domestic customers versus Canadian , or is there some other factor around that ?
Speaker #2: A lot of what we see , Eric , in April is really weather related , where people are saying , okay , it's nice enough up north , we can head up north and and no longer need to seek refuge in the in the cold or in the , in the Florida from the cold .
Speaker #2: So that's kind of what we saw . And you see that same effect in , in October where some people stay longer . If you have a longer , longer summer , September and October .
Eric Wolfe: Got it. That's helpful. Thank you.
Eric Wolfe: Got it. That's helpful. Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Eric.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Eric.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up from Brad Heffern of RBC. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up from Brad Heffern of RBC. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: And we just saw people returning back north quicker than , than anticipated
Brad Heffern: Yeah. Thanks for taking the follow-up. On the RV site count, what is the financial impact of a seasonal site moving to transient? I'm sure obviously it could just get booked again as a seasonal next winter, but if it stays a transient site, is there a meaningful negative financial impact from that?
Brad Heffern: Yeah. Thanks for taking the follow-up. On the RV site count, what is the financial impact of a seasonal site moving to transient? I'm sure obviously it could just get booked again as a seasonal next winter, but if it stays a transient site, is there a meaningful negative financial impact from that?
Speaker #8: Got it . That's helpful . Thank you
Speaker #2: Thanks , Eric .
Speaker #1: Thank you. And we have a follow-up from Brad Heffron of RBC. Your line is open.
Speaker #11: Yeah . Thanks for taking the follow up on the B site count . What is the financial impact of a seasonal site moving to transient ?
Marguerite Nader: It really depends on how that site was performing. If you just think about the annual conversions to transient, our average annual is about $7 or 8 thousand, and your average transient customer is about $81 per night. It depends how many nights, and both same with the seasonal, how many nights are occupied as to whether or not you have a financial impact to that conversion.
Marguerite Nader: It really depends on how that site was performing. If you just think about the annual conversions to transient, our average annual is about $7 or 8 thousand, and your average transient customer is about $81 per night. It depends how many nights, and both same with the seasonal, how many nights are occupied as to whether or not you have a financial impact to that conversion.
Speaker #11: I'm sure obviously it could just get booked again as a seasonal next winter , but if it stays a transient site , is there a meaningful , you know , negative financial impact from that ?
Speaker #2: I mean , it really depends on what how that site was performing , I guess , you know , just think if you just think about the annual conversions to transient are average , annual is about 7 or $8000 and your average transient customer is about $81 per night .
Brad Heffern: Okay. The shift of those, whatever it was, 1,200, 1,400 sites, is that meaningful in some way, or is it really just moving change from one pocket to the other?
Brad Heffern: Okay. The shift of those, whatever it was, 1,200, 1,400 sites, is that meaningful in some way, or is it really just moving change from one pocket to the other?
Speaker #2: So it depends how many nights and both on the same with the seasonal , how many nights are occupied as to whether or not you have a financial impact to that .
Speaker #2: That conversion
Paul Seavey: Well, it's already embedded in our guidance.
Paul Seavey: Well, it's already embedded in our guidance.
Brad Heffern: Right.
Brad Heffern: Right.
Speaker #11: Okay . But the shift of those , whatever it was , 12 , 1400 sites is , is that meaningful in some way ?
Paul Seavey: Because it's simply a reflection of what we experienced during the winter season in terms of the occupancy of those sites.
Paul Seavey: Because it's simply a reflection of what we experienced during the winter season in terms of the occupancy of those sites.
Speaker #11: Or is it really just moving, you know, change from one pocket to the other?
Brad Heffern: Okay. Thank you.
Brad Heffern: Okay. Thank you.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Paul Seavey: Thanks.
Speaker #6: Well .
Speaker #4: It's , I mean , it's already embedded in our guidance , right ? Because it's simply a reflection of what we experienced during the winter season in terms of the occupancy of those sites
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Brad.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks, Brad.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up from Jamie Feldman of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up from Jamie Feldman of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Jamie Feldman: Great. Thank you. I had very strict instructions from Adam to ask one question, so I'm back. Good job, man.
Jamie Feldman: Great. Thank you. I had very strict instructions from Adam to ask one question, so I'm back. Good job, man.
Speaker #11: Okay . Thank you .
Speaker #6: Thanks . Thanks , Fred .
Speaker #1: Thank you we have a follow up from Jamie Feldman of Wells Fargo . Your line is open .
Marguerite Nader: We appreciate it, Jamie. Appreciate it.
Marguerite Nader: We appreciate it, Jamie. Appreciate it.
Jamie Feldman: It's so hard. I've had a couple people ask me to clarify, so I apologize if you guys already answered this or provided it, but the 50 basis point cut to RV and marina-based rental income, was that all from the slips? And if it wasn't all the slips, how do you break it out between RV and marina?
Jamie Feldman: It's so hard. I've had a couple people ask me to clarify, so I apologize if you guys already answered this or provided it, but the 50 basis point cut to RV and marina-based rental income, was that all from the slips? And if it wasn't all the slips, how do you break it out between RV and marina?
Speaker #5: Great . Thank you . Had very strict instructions from Adam to S1 . Question .
Speaker #6: So I'm back .
Speaker #5: Good job man .
Speaker #6: We appreciate it . Appreciate it .
Speaker #5: It's so hard . So I've had a couple people ask me to clarify , so I apologize if you guys already answered this or provided it , but the 50 basis point cut to RV and Marina based rental income , was that all from the slips ?
Paul Seavey: Well, it's interesting because there's a 50 basis point decline in RV and marina in total, and there's a 50 basis point decline in RV and marina annual. To be clear, the RV and marina annual 50 basis point decline, it's attributed to the marina portfolio. It's not the RV portfolio, it's the marina portfolio. I think somebody earlier in the call said they calculated roughly $1.5 million, and that's correct.
Paul Seavey: Well, it's interesting because there's a 50 basis point decline in RV and marina in total, and there's a 50 basis point decline in RV and marina annual. To be clear, the RV and marina annual 50 basis point decline, it's attributed to the marina portfolio. It's not the RV portfolio, it's the marina portfolio. I think somebody earlier in the call said they calculated roughly $1.5 million, and that's correct.
Speaker #5: And if it wasn't all the slips, how do you break it out between RV and marina?
Speaker #6: Well .
Speaker #4: The , the it's interesting because there's a 50 basis point decline in RV and Marina in total . And there's a 50 basis point decline in RV and Marina annual .
Speaker #4: So to be clear , the RV Marina annual 50 basis point decline is attributed to the Marina portfolio . It's not the RV portfolio , it's the Marina portfolio .
Jamie Feldman: Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Last, the 300 sites lost in the hurricane, how many of those are back online? Because it seems like it comes up every quarter, the occupancy change or fewer leased sites.
Jamie Feldman: Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Last, the 300 sites lost in the hurricane, how many of those are back online? Because it seems like it comes up every quarter, the occupancy change or fewer leased sites.
Speaker #4: And I think somebody earlier in the call said they calculated roughly a million and a half dollars . And that's correct .
Speaker #5: Okay . All right . Thank you for that . And then last , the 300 sites lost in the hurricane . How many of those are back online ?
Paul Seavey: Yeah.
Paul Seavey: Yeah.
Jamie Feldman: Occupant sites, I should say.
Jamie Feldman: Occupant sites, I should say.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. We're in the process of putting homes on those sites, and I put it in the context of this. It's an additional 300 vacant sites in a portfolio of 70,000 sites.
Paul Seavey: Yeah. We're in the process of putting homes on those sites, and I put it in the context of this. It's an additional 300 vacant sites in a portfolio of 70,000 sites.
Speaker #5: Because it seems like it comes up every quarter The , you know , the occupancy change or fewer lease . Fewer .
Patrick Waite: Where we have a run rate practice of purchasing new homes during lease occupancy. It's not like the 300 go down, then we fill them 1 through 300 and then move on. They're part of the ongoing investment in inventory in the broader market. Obviously, they were hurricane impacted, so they're in Florida. I don't have the exact number, but we've filled a substantial number with new homes, and we'll continue through that process to reach full occupancy. The properties that were impacted by those hurricanes are pinnacle assets where the demand profile is very solid, and I would expect the occupancy to rebuild consistently.
Patrick Waite: Where we have a run rate practice of purchasing new homes during lease occupancy. It's not like the 300 go down, then we fill them 1 through 300 and then move on. They're part of the ongoing investment in inventory in the broader market. Obviously, they were hurricane impacted, so they're in Florida. I don't have the exact number, but we've filled a substantial number with new homes, and we'll continue through that process to reach full occupancy. The properties that were impacted by those hurricanes are pinnacle assets where the demand profile is very solid, and I would expect the occupancy to rebuild consistently.
Speaker #6: Yeah .
Speaker #5: Occupied sites , I should say .
Speaker #3: Yeah , we're in the process of , of putting homes on those sites and I put it in the context of this . It's an additional 300 vacant sites in a portfolio of 70,000 sites where we have a run rate practice of purchasing new homes to increase occupancy .
Speaker #3: So it's not like the 300 go down when we fill them one through 300 and then move on their part of the ongoing investment of inventory in those in the in the broader market , obviously they were hurricane impacted .
Speaker #3: So they're in Florida. I don't have the exact number, but we've filled a substantial number with new homes, and we'll continue through that process to reach full occupancy.
Jamie Feldman: Okay. I think I know the answer, but you do have some portfolios out there for sale internationally. What are your latest thoughts on sticking to your knitting and keeping the type of assets you have? Or, is there any yield IRR that would be compelling enough to go international at this point or into new property types or something outside of your core business?
Jamie Feldman: Okay. I think I know the answer, but you do have some portfolios out there for sale internationally. What are your latest thoughts on sticking to your knitting and keeping the type of assets you have? Or, is there any yield IRR that would be compelling enough to go international at this point or into new property types or something outside of your core business?
Speaker #3: The , the properties that were impacted by those hurricanes are , you know , pinnacle assets where the demand profile is very solid .
Speaker #3: And I would expect the occupancy to rebuild consistently .
Speaker #5: Okay . And then finally , I think I know the answer . But you know , you do have some portfolios out there for sale internationally .
Speaker #5: What are your what are your latest thoughts on , you know , sticking to your knitting and keeping the type of assets you have or , you know , is there any yield IRR that would be compelling enough to go international at this point or , you know , into new property types or something outside of your , you know , your core business
Marguerite Nader: I think you were right with how you started, which is you know what the answer is going to be. We are focused on growing our business inside the United States, and we will continue to do that.
Marguerite Nader: I think you were right with how you started, which is you know what the answer is going to be. We are focused on growing our business inside the United States, and we will continue to do that.
Jamie Feldman: In terms of new property types?
Jamie Feldman: In terms of new property types?
Speaker #2: I think you were right with how you started , which is , you know , you know what the answer is going to be .
Marguerite Nader: Well, certainly more MH, more RVs, to new property types. Nothing that we're looking at right now.
Marguerite Nader: Well, certainly more MH, more RVs, to new property types. Nothing that we're looking at right now.
Speaker #2: We are, we are focused on growing our business inside the United States. And we will continue, continue to do that.
Jamie Feldman: Okay. All right, great. Thank you.
Jamie Feldman: Okay. All right, great. Thank you.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you, Jamie.
Marguerite Nader: Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker #5: And in terms of new property types,
Operator: Thank you. Since we have no further questions on the line, I'd like to turn it back over to Marguerite Nader for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. Since we have no further questions on the line, I'd like to turn it back over to Marguerite Nader for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Well , you know , I mean , certainly more . MH , more RVs to new property types that nothing that we're looking at right now .
Marguerite Nader: Thanks for taking the time today to listen to our call. We look forward to updating you on our Q2 earnings.
Marguerite Nader: Thanks for taking the time today to listen to our call. We look forward to updating you on our Q2 earnings.
Speaker #5: Okay. All right. Great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you Jamie .
Speaker #1: Thank you. Since we have no further questions on the line, I'd like to turn it back over to Marguerite Nader for closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
Speaker #2: Thanks for taking the time today to listen to our call. We look forward to updating you on our second quarter earnings.