Q1 2026 Trane Technologies PLC Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning, welcome to the Trane Technologies Q1 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Lisa, and I will be your operator for the call.
Operator: Good morning. Welcome to the Trane Technologies Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Lisa, and I will be your operator for the call. The call will begin in a few moments with the speaker remarks and the Q&A session. We do ask that you limit your questions to one initial and one follow-up today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I will now turn the call over to Zac Nagle, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Operator: Good morning. Welcome to the Trane Technologies Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Lisa, and I will be your operator for the call. The call will begin in a few moments with the speaker remarks and the Q&A session. We do ask that you limit your questions to one initial and one follow-up today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I will now turn the call over to Zac Nagle, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #1: with the speaker remarks and the Q&A session. We do ask that you limit your questions to one initial and one follow-up today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Zach Nagle, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Zac Nagle: Thanks, operator. Good morning, thank you for joining us for Trane Technologies Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being webcast on our website at tranetechnologies.com, where you'll find the accompanying presentation. We're also recording and archiving this call on our website. Please note that statements made today are forward-looking and may differ materially from actual results as detailed in our SEC filings. This presentation also includes non-GAAP measures explained in our news release and presentation appendix. Joining me today are Dave Regnery, Chair and CEO, and Chris Kuehn, Executive Vice President and CFO. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dave. Dave?
Zac Nagle: Thanks, operator. Good morning, thank you for joining us for Trane Technologies Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being webcast on our website at tranetechnologies.com, where you'll find the accompanying presentation. We're also recording and archiving this call on our website. Please note that statements made today are forward-looking and may differ materially from actual results as detailed in our SEC filings.
Speaker #2: Technologies' first quarter 2026 earnings conference
Zac Nagle: This presentation also includes non-GAAP measures explained in our news release and presentation appendix. Joining me today are Dave Regnery, Chair and CEO, and Chris Kuehn, Executive Vice President and CFO. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dave. Dave?
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Zach, and everyone for joining today's call. Please turn to slide number 3. I'll start with a few thoughts on how our purpose-driven strategy continues to fuel strong performance over time. The dynamic global environment and rising demand for power is pushing customers to think differently about energy. With our leading innovation, Trane Technologies is uniquely positioned to win. Our high-efficiency systems and smart controls help customers save energy, lower operating costs, and increase resiliency, proving that sustainability and performance go hand in hand. Our strategy is built on a strong foundation, a robust business operating system, a powerful cash flow engine, and an uplifting, engaging culture. This formula positions us to deliver differentiated long-term value to our people, our customers, our shareholders, and our communities. Please turn to slide number 4.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Zach, and everyone for joining today's call. Please turn to slide number three. I'll start with a few thoughts on how our purpose-driven strategy continues to fuel strong performance over time. The dynamic global environment and rising demand for power is pushing customers to think differently about energy. With our leading innovation, Trane Technologies is uniquely positioned to win. Our high-efficiency systems and smart controls help customers save energy, lower operating costs, and increase resiliency, proving that sustainability and performance go hand in hand.
Dave Regnery: Our strategy is built on a strong foundation, a robust business operating system, a powerful cash flow engine, and an uplifting, engaging culture. This formula positions us to deliver differentiated long-term value to our people, our customers, our shareholders, and our communities.
Dave Regnery: Please turn to slide number four. Q1 was another strong quarter, marked by exceptional enterprise organic bookings, up 24% and record backlog of $10.7 billion, up over 30% versus year-end 2025. We delivered organic revenue growth of 3%, led by our Americas Commercial HVAC business and double-digit global services growth. This strong performance translated to adjusted EPS growth of 7%.
Dave Regnery: Q1 was another strong quarter, marked by exceptional enterprise organic bookings, up 24% and record backlog of $10.7 billion, up over 30% versus year-end 2025. We delivered organic revenue growth of 3%, led by our Americas Commercial HVAC business and double-digit global services growth. This strong performance translated to adjusted EPS growth of 7%. Our Commercial HVAC businesses delivered outstanding performance, particularly in the Americas, where our Commercial HVAC bookings reached an all-time high, up approximately 40% year over year, with Applied Solutions bookings up over 160%. Our third consecutive quarter of Applied bookings growth of greater than 100%. The strength of our Commercial HVAC business is further underscored by our combined Americas and EMEA backlog, which is up approximately $2.7 billion over year-end 2025.
21 was another strong quarter marked by exceptional, Enterprise organic, bookings up, 24% and record backlog of 10.7 billion up over 30% versus year. End 2025, we delivered organic Revenue growth to 3%.
Led by our America's commercial HVAC business and double digit Global Services growth.
This strong performance translated to adjusted EPS growth of 7%.
Dave Regnery: Our Commercial HVAC businesses delivered outstanding performance, particularly in the Americas, where our Commercial HVAC bookings reached an all-time high, up approximately 40% year over year, with Applied Solutions bookings up over 160%. Our third consecutive quarter of Applied bookings growth of greater than 100%. The strength of our Commercial HVAC business is further underscored by our combined Americas and EMEA backlog, which is up approximately $2.7 billion over year-end 2025.
Our commercial HVAC business is delivered outstanding performance. Particularly in the Americas, where our commercial hbac bookings reached an all-time high up approximately 40% year-over-year.
With applied Solutions. Bookings up over 160%.
Our third consecutive quarter of Applied bookings growth of greater than 100%.
Dave Regnery: This includes approximately $1 billion from our acquisition of Stellar Energy, a leader in modular data center cooling solutions. We are exceptionally well-positioned for continued growth in 2026 and beyond. Our exceptional bookings and record backlog provide strong visibility to continued market outgrowth and revenue growth acceleration in the H2 of the year. Our robust and rapidly growing commercial HVAC pipeline across key verticals, including long-term capacity and master purchase agreements in data centers, bolsters our confidence in the long-term outlook. Our services business, which represents 1/3 of our enterprise revenue, continues to be a consistent and durable growth driver, boasting a low teens CAGR since 2020. Additionally, we anticipate residential market tailwinds in the H2 of 2026, driven by improving market fundamentals and easier prior year comparisons.
Dave Regnery: This includes approximately $1 billion from our acquisition of Stellar Energy, a leader in modular data center cooling solutions. We are exceptionally well-positioned for continued growth in 2026 and beyond. Our exceptional bookings and record backlog provide strong visibility to continued market outgrowth and revenue growth acceleration in the H2 of the year. Our robust and rapidly growing commercial HVAC pipeline across key verticals, including long-term capacity and master purchase agreements in data centers, bolsters our confidence in the long-term outlook.
2025.
This includes approximately $1 billion from our acquisition of Stellar Energy.
A leader in modular data, center cooling solutions.
We are exceptionally well, positioned for continued, growth in 2026 and beyond our exceptional, bookings and record backlog. Provide strong visibility to continued market, outgrowth and revenue, growth acceleration in the second half of the Year, our robust and rapidly growing, commercial HVAC pipeline, across key verticals, including long-term capacity, and master purchase, agreements and data centers, bolsters our confidence in the long term Outlook.
Dave Regnery: Our services business, which represents 1/3 of our enterprise revenue, continues to be a consistent and durable growth driver, boasting a low teens CAGR since 2020. Additionally, we anticipate residential market tailwinds in the H2 of 2026, driven by improving market fundamentals and easier prior year comparisons.
Our Services business, which represents one-third of our Enterprise revenue, continues to be a consistent and durable growth driver, boasting low-teens compound annual growth rates since 2020.
Additionally, we anticipate residential Market Tailwinds in the second half of 2026 driven by improving Market fundamentals and easier prior to your comparisons.
Dave Regnery: The Americas transport market also continued improvement in fundamentals, strengthening the outlook for a late 2026 and 2027 recovery. Operational excellence is core to everything we do, and we expect to mitigate tariff and inflationary pressures through our business operating system. Altogether, we are raising our full year revenue and EPS guidance, which Chris will cover shortly. Please turn to slide number 5. As discussed in our Americas segment, commercial HVAC continued its standout performance, with bookings up approximately 40% and revenues up high single digits. In high growth verticals like data centers, customers expect innovative, highly engineered solutions tailored to their unique needs. This plays directly to our strengths, including leading innovation, system expertise, proven operational excellence, and the capacity to grow with our customers as their needs rapidly expand.
Dave Regnery: The Americas transport market also continued improvement in fundamentals, strengthening the outlook for a late 2026 and 2027 recovery. Operational excellence is core to everything we do, and we expect to mitigate tariff and inflationary pressures through our business operating system. Altogether, we are raising our full year revenue and EPS guidance, which Chris will cover shortly. Please turn to slide number 5. As discussed in our Americas segment, commercial HVAC continued its standout performance, with bookings up approximately 40% and revenues up high single digits.
The America's transport Market also continued Improvement in fundamentals, strengthening the outlook for a late 2026 and 2027 recovery.
Operational excellence is core to everything we do, and we expect to mitigate tariff and inflationary pressures through our business operating system.
Altogether. We are raising our full year revenue and EPS guidance, which Chris will cover shortly.
Please turn to slide number 5.
Dave Regnery: In high growth verticals like data centers, customers expect innovative, highly engineered solutions tailored to their unique needs. This plays directly to our strengths, including leading innovation, system expertise, proven operational excellence, and the capacity to grow with our customers as their needs rapidly expand.
As discussed in our America's segment. Commercial hbac continued at standout performance with bookings up, approximately 40% in revenues up high single digits.
In high growth verticals, like data centers, customers, expect, Innovative. Highly engineered Solutions tailored to their unique needs.
This place directly to our strengths including leading Innovation System expertise. Proven operational excellence and the capacity to grow with our customers as their needs rapidly. Expand,
Dave Regnery: These factors and the expertise of our direct sales force enable us to capture a significant share of these opportunities. Turning to residential, bookings were up low single digits while revenues declined mid-single digits, exceeding our expectations entering the quarter. In Americas Transport Refrigeration, bookings were up double digits and revenues were up low single digits, significantly outperforming end markets, which saw truck, trailer, and APU segments down double digits in Q1. EMEA results were solid and consistent with our expectations, excluding headwinds from geopolitical events in the region. In Asia Pacific, commercial HVAC bookings were up high 20s, and revenues grew low single digits in the quarter, led by the rest of Asia, where bookings were up approximately 50% and revenues were up low single digits. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris?
Dave Regnery: These factors and the expertise of our direct sales force enable us to capture a significant share of these opportunities. Turning to residential, bookings were up low single digits while revenues declined mid-single digits, exceeding our expectations entering the quarter. In Americas Transport Refrigeration, bookings were up double digits and revenues were up low single digits, significantly outperforming end markets, which saw truck, trailer, and APU segments down double digits in Q1. EMEA results were solid and consistent with our expectations, excluding headwinds from geopolitical events in the region.
These factors and the expertise of our direct sales force enable us to capture a significant share of these opportunities.
Turning to residential, bookings were up low single digits, while revenues declined mid single digits, exceeding our expectations entering the quarter.
In America's transport Refrigeration bookings were up. Double digits and revenues were up below single digits significantly. Outperforming and markets which saw a truck trailer and Apu segments down double digits in q1.
Dave Regnery: In Asia Pacific, commercial HVAC bookings were up high 20s, and revenues grew low single digits in the quarter, led by the rest of Asia, where bookings were up approximately 50% and revenues were up low single digits. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris?
AMA results were solid and consistent with our expectations. Excluding headwinds from geopolitical events in the region.
In Asia Pacific, commercial HVAC bookings were up high twenties and revenues grew low single digits in the quarter.
Led by the rest of Asia, where bookings were up approximately 50% in revenues were up low, single digits.
Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris Chris.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks, Dave. Please turn to slide number 6. Dave covered many key points from this slide earlier, so I'll keep my comments brief. Organic revenue growth for the enterprise was solid, up 3%, led by services growth up double digits. Enterprise organic leverage was in the high teens and adjusted EPS growth was 7%, demonstrating the effectiveness of our business operating system and driving operational excellence throughout the P&L. Please turn to slide number 7. Margins across the segments were largely in line with our expectations, with the Americas and Asia operating margins up 10 basis points and 90 basis points respectively. EMEA margins were impacted by expected first-year acquisition and integration related costs and lower revenues and forecasts in the Middle East. We also maintained high levels of business reinvestment across the portfolio in the quarter, driving our flywheel of innovation and growth.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks, Dave. Please turn to slide number 6. Dave covered many key points from this slide earlier, so I'll keep my comments brief. Organic revenue growth for the enterprise was solid, up 3%, led by services growth up double digits. Enterprise organic leverage was in the high teens and adjusted EPS growth was 7%, demonstrating the effectiveness of our business operating system and driving operational excellence throughout the P&L.
Thanks Dave. Please turn the slide number 6.
Dave covered many key points from this slide earlier, so I'll keep my comments brief.
Organic Revenue growth for the Enterprise was solid up 3%.
Led by Services growth up double digits.
Enterprise organic leverage was in the high teens, and adjusted EPS growth was 7%. This demonstrates the effectiveness of our business operating system and driving operational excellence throughout the P&L.
Chris Kuehn: Please turn to slide number 7. Margins across the segments were largely in line with our expectations, with the Americas and Asia operating margins up 10 basis points and 90 basis points respectively. EMEA margins were impacted by expected first-year acquisition and integration related costs and lower revenues and forecasts in the Middle East. We also maintained high levels of business reinvestment across the portfolio in the quarter, driving our flywheel of innovation and growth. Now I'd like to turn the call back over to Dave. Dave?
Please turn a slide number 7.
Margins across the segments were largely in line with our expectations with the Americas and Asia operating margins up, 10 basis points and 90 basis points respectively.
EMEA margins were impacted by expected first-year acquisition and integration-related costs, and lower revenues and forecasts in the Middle East.
We also maintained high levels of business reinvestment across the portfolio in the quarter driving, our flywheel of innovation and growth.
Chris Kuehn: Now I'd like to turn the call back over to Dave. Dave?
Now, I'd like to turn the call back over to Dave, Dave.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Chris. Please turn to slide number eight. Our outlook for 2026 remains strong, supported by our record bookings and backlog. Our Americas commercial HVAC business is executing at a very high level, significantly outperforming end markets. We expect continued strength in data centers and other core markets like higher education, government, and healthcare, just to name a few. Our Q1 book to bill was approximately 150%, and our backlog is up nearly 70% year over year, strengthening our visibility into 2026 and beyond. Based on our exceptional backlog and the timing of customer deliveries, we expect approximately 10% revenue growth in Q2 against a tough prior year comp of mid-teens growth. We expect revenues to accelerate to low teens growth as we move through the H2 of the year. In residential, we had a strong start to the year.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Chris. Please turn to slide number eight. Our outlook for 2026 remains strong, supported by our record bookings and backlog. Our Americas commercial HVAC business is executing at a very high level, significantly outperforming end markets. We expect continued strength in data centers and other core markets like higher education, government, and healthcare, just to name a few. Our Q1 book to bill was approximately 150%, and our backlog is up nearly 70% year over year, strengthening our visibility into 2026 and beyond.
Thanks Chris. Please turn to slide number 8, our outlook for 2026 remains strong supported by our record bookings and backlog.
our America's Commercial hbac Business is executing at a very high level significantly, outperforming and markets,
we expect continued strength and data centers and other core markets like higher education, government and Healthcare, just to name a few
Our Q1 book-to-bill was approximately 150%, and our backlog is up nearly 70% year-over-year, strengthening our visibility into 2026 and beyond.
Dave Regnery: Based on our exceptional backlog and the timing of customer deliveries, we expect approximately 10% revenue growth in Q2 against a tough prior year comp of mid-teens growth. We expect revenues to accelerate to low teens growth as we move through the H2 of the year. In residential, we had a strong start to the year.
Based on our exceptional backlog and the timing of customer deliveries, we expect approximately 10% revenue growth in Q2.
against a tough prior year comp of mid teens growth.
Accelerate to low teens growth as we move through the second half of the year.
Dave Regnery: We expect Q2 to be flattish, pivoting to growth in the H2, aided by easier prior year comps. At this early stage in the year, our outlook remains prudent, with flat revenues expected for 2026. Turning to transport, market fundamentals continue to improve and are increasingly supportive of a recovery in late 2026 and healthy growth in 2027. Our market forecast remains largely unchanged, with a mid-single-digit decline expected for full year 2026. We expect Q2 to be down roughly mid-teens based on the timing of large customer deliveries within the year. As we've discussed previously, given our strong mix of large customers, orders and revenues can be uneven from quarter to quarter. We significantly outperformed the transport markets in the Q1 and expect to outperform for the year.
Dave Regnery: We expect Q2 to be flattish, pivoting to growth in the H2, aided by easier prior year comps. At this early stage in the year, our outlook remains prudent, with flat revenues expected for 2026. Turning to transport, market fundamentals continue to improve and are increasingly supportive of a recovery in late 2026 and healthy growth in 2027. Our market forecast remains largely unchanged, with a mid-single-digit decline expected for full year 2026. We expect Q2 to be down roughly mid-teens based on the timing of large customer deliveries within the year.
In residential, we had a strong start to the year. We expect Q2 to be flattish, pivoting to growth in the second half aided by easier prior year comps.
At this early stage in the year are outlook remains prudent with flat revenues expected for 2026.
Turning to transport Market fundamentals, continue to improve and are increasingly supportive of a recovery in late 2026 and Healthy Growth in 2027.
Our Market forecast remains largely unchanged with a mid single digit decline expected for full year 2026.
We expect Q2 to be down, roughly mid teens based on the timing of large customer deliveries within the year.
Dave Regnery: As we've discussed previously, given our strong mix of large customers, orders and revenues can be uneven from quarter to quarter. We significantly outperformed the transport markets in the Q1 and expect to outperform for the year.
As we've discussed previously, given our strong mix of large customers, orders and revenues can be uneven from quarter to quarter.
We significantly outperformed the transport markets in the first quarter and expect to outperform for the year.
Dave Regnery: Turning to EMEA, our results to date and expectations for the year are largely unchanged, excluding impacts related to the Middle East. First and foremost, we have prioritized the safety of our employees in the region. We do expect continued headwinds in Q2 of approximately $50 million in revenues, representing an estimated $0.05 EPS impact in Q2. We continue to monitor the situation closely. In Asia Pacific, China remains challenging with dynamic macro conditions. We expect the rest of Asia to be stronger than China in 2026. Overall, our outlook for the region remains flattish for 2026. Now, I'd like to turn the call back over to Chris. Chris, over to you.
Dave Regnery: Turning to EMEA, our results to date and expectations for the year are largely unchanged, excluding impacts related to the Middle East. First and foremost, we have prioritized the safety of our employees in the region. We do expect continued headwinds in Q2 of approximately $50 million in revenues, representing an estimated $0.05 EPS impact in Q2. We continue to monitor the situation closely.
Turning to Amia our results to date and expectations for the year. Are largely unchanged. Excluding impacts related to the Middle East.
First and foremost, we have prioritized the safety of our employees in the region.
We do expect continued headwinds in the second quarter of approximately 50 million, in revenues representing, an estimated 5 Cent, EPS impact in Q2.
We continue to monitor the situation closely.
Dave Regnery: In Asia Pacific, China remains challenging with dynamic macro conditions. We expect the rest of Asia to be stronger than China in 2026. Overall, our outlook for the region remains flattish for 2026. Now, I'd like to turn the call back over to Chris. Chris, over to you.
In Asia Pacific China remains challenging with Dynamic macro conditions. We expect the rest of Asia to be stronger than China in 2026.
Overall, our outlook for the region remains flattish for 2026.
Now, I'd like to turn the call back over to Chris. Chris, over to you.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks, Dave. Please turn to slide number 9. Our 2026 guidance reflects the market dynamics we've discussed and operational excellence driven by our business operating system. It also incorporates our value creation flywheel, continued investment in innovation, market outgrowth, healthy leverage, and strong free cash flow. We're increasing our organic revenue growth guidance to approximately 7%, the high end of our prior range of approximately 6% to 7%. Our reported revenue guidance moves to approximately 9.5% with unchanged estimates for approximately 2 points of M&A and 50 basis points of favorable FX. We're also increasing our adjusted EPS guidance range to $14.75 to $14.95, or approximately 13% to 15% of adjusted EPS growth, up from $14.65 to $14.85 prior.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks, Dave. Please turn to slide number 9. Our 2026 guidance reflects the market dynamics we've discussed and operational excellence driven by our business operating system. It also incorporates our value creation flywheel, continued investment in innovation, market outgrowth, healthy leverage, and strong free cash flow. We're increasing our organic revenue growth guidance to approximately 7%, the high end of our prior range of approximately 6% to 7%.
Thanks, Dave. Please turn to slide number 9.
Our 2026 guidance, reflects the market dynamics, we've discussed and operational excellence driven by our business operating system.
It also incorporates our value creation flywheel continued investment in Innovation, Market, outgrowth, healthy, leverage and strong, free cash flow.
Chris Kuehn: Our reported revenue guidance moves to approximately 9.5% with unchanged estimates for approximately 2 points of M&A and 50 basis points of favorable FX. We're also increasing our adjusted EPS guidance range to $14.75 to $14.95, or approximately 13% to 15% of adjusted EPS growth, up from $14.65 to $14.85 prior.
We're increasing our organic Revenue growth guidance to approximately 7%, the high end of our prior range of approximately 6% to 7%.
Our reported Revenue guidance moves through approximately 9.5% with unchanged, estimates for approximately 2 points of m&a in 50 basis points of favorable FX.
We're also increasing our adjusted EPS guidance range to $14.75 to $14.95, or approximately 13% to 15% of adjusted EPS growth.
Up from 14.65 to $14.85 cents prior.
Chris Kuehn: For Q2 2026, we expect approximately 5% organic revenue growth and adjusted EPS in the range of $4.20 to $4.25. For additional details, please refer to slide 16. Please turn to slide number 10. We remain committed to our balanced capital allocation strategy focused on deploying excess cash to maximize shareholder returns. First, we strengthen our core business through relentless reinvestment. Second, we maintain a strong balance sheet to ensure optionality as markets evolve. Third, we expect to deploy 100% of excess cash over time. Our approach includes strategic M&A to enhance long-term returns and share repurchases when the stock trades below our calculated intrinsic value. Please turn to slide number 11. We are on track to deploy between $2.8 to 3.3 billion in 2026 through our balanced capital allocation strategy.
Chris Kuehn: For Q2 2026, we expect approximately 5% organic revenue growth and adjusted EPS in the range of $4.20 to $4.25. For additional details, please refer to slide 16. Please turn to slide number 10. We remain committed to our balanced capital allocation strategy focused on deploying excess cash to maximize shareholder returns. First, we strengthen our core business through relentless reinvestment. Second, we maintain a strong balance sheet to ensure optionality as markets evolve. Third, we expect to deploy 100% of excess cash over time.
For Q2 2026, we expect approximately 5%, organic Revenue, growth and adjusted EPS in the range of $4.20 to $4.25.
for additional details, please refer to slide 16
Please turn the slide number 10.
We remain committed to our balance Capital allocation strategy focused on deploying excess cash to maximize shareholder returns.
First, we strengthen our core business through relentless reinvestment.
Second, we maintain a strong balance sheet to ensure optionality as markets evolve.
Chris Kuehn: Our approach includes strategic M&A to enhance long-term returns and share repurchases when the stock trades below our calculated intrinsic value. Please turn to slide number 11. We are on track to deploy between $2.8 to 3.3 billion in 2026 through our balanced capital allocation strategy.
Third, we expected to deploy 100% of excess cash over time.
Our approach includes strategic m&a, to enhance long-term returns and share repurchases when the stock trades below are calculated intrinsic value.
Please turn to slide number 11.
Chris Kuehn: This includes approximately $900 million for dividends, reflecting a 12% increase to $4.20 per share annualized in 2026. We've deployed or committed approximately $340 million year to date for M&A and strategic investments. Our share repurchases year to date through April stand at approximately $300 million, and we still have approximately $4.4 billion remaining under our current share repurchase authorization, providing significant optionality. Our M&A pipeline remains active, and we will continue to be disciplined in our approach. Overall, our strong free cash flow, liquidity, balance sheet, and substantial share repurchase authorization offer excellent capital allocation optionality as we move forward. Now I'd like to turn the call back over to Dave. Dave?
Chris Kuehn: This includes approximately $900 million for dividends, reflecting a 12% increase to $4.20 per share annualized in 2026. We've deployed or committed approximately $340 million year to date for M&A and strategic investments. Our share repurchases year to date through April stand at approximately $300 million, and we still have approximately $4.4 billion remaining under our current share repurchase authorization, providing significant optionality. Our M&A pipeline remains active, and we will continue to be disciplined in our approach.
We are on track to deploy between 2.8 to 3.3 billion in 2026 through our balance Capital allocation strategy.
This includes approximately $900 million for dividends, reflecting a 12% increase to $4.20 per share annualized in 2026.
We deployed or committed approximately 340 million year to date for m&a and strategic Investments.
Our share repurchase is your today through April stand at approximately $300 million and we still have approximately 4.4 billion dollars remaining under our current share repurchase authorization providing significant optionality.
Our m&a pipeline remains active and we will continue to be disciplined that our approach.
Chris Kuehn: Overall, our strong free cash flow, liquidity, balance sheet, and substantial share repurchase authorization offer excellent capital allocation optionality as we move forward. Now I'd like to turn the call back over to Dave. Dave?
Overall our strong free cash flow, liquidity balance sheet and substantial. Share repurchase, authorization offer, excellent Capital allocation optionality as we move forward.
Now, I'd like to turn the call back over to Dave, Dave.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Chris. Please turn to slide number 13. The Americas transport refrigeration market remains dynamic, but the long-term outlook is strong. ACT projects the market to bottom in H1 2026 and recover late in H2. ACT also expects a sharp rebound beginning in 2027 and continued expansion through the end of the decade. We expect growth as well, but anticipate a more gradual slope to the recovery. We're managing the down cycle effectively, outperforming end markets and continuing to invest in innovation, so we're well-positioned as the market strengthens. Please turn to slide number 14. In closing, our strategy is aligned to powerful secular tailwinds that position us to outperform. Megatrends around sustainability, digitalization, and rising energy demand are intensifying the need for our systems and services.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Chris. Please turn to slide number 13. The Americas transport refrigeration market remains dynamic, but the long-term outlook is strong. ACT projects the market to bottom in H1 2026 and recover late in H2. ACT also expects a sharp rebound beginning in 2027 and continued expansion through the end of the decade. We expect growth as well, but anticipate a more gradual slope to the recovery. We're managing the down cycle effectively, outperforming end markets and continuing to invest in innovation, so we're well-positioned as the market strengthens.
Thanks Chris. Please. Turn to slide number 13.
Act projects, the market to bottom in the first half of 2026 and recovered late in the second half.
ACT also expects a sharp rebound beginning in 2027, with continued expansion through the end of the decade.
We expect growth as well, but anticipate a more gradual slope to the recovery.
Dave Regnery: Please turn to slide number 14. In closing, our strategy is aligned to powerful secular tailwinds that position us to outperform. Megatrends around sustainability, digitalization, and rising energy demand are intensifying the need for our systems and services.
We're managing the down cycle, effectively outperforming in markets and continuing to invest in Innovation. So we're well positioned as the market strengthens.
Please turn a slide number 14.
Dave Regnery: Through breakthrough innovation and the strength of our people, we're delivering superior performance for our customers and advancing a more sustainable future. With our proven business operating system, record backlog, and strong demand, we are well-positioned to deliver differentiated shareholder value in 2026 and beyond. Now we'd be happy to take your questions. Operator?
Dave Regnery: Through breakthrough innovation and the strength of our people, we're delivering superior performance for our customers and advancing a more sustainable future. With our proven business operating system, record backlog, and strong demand, we are well-positioned to deliver differentiated shareholder value in 2026 and beyond. Now we'd be happy to take your questions. Operator?
In closing, our strategy is aligned to powerful secular Tailwinds. That position us to outperform Mega Trends around sustainability, digitalization and Rising energy. Demand are intensifying the need for our systems and services.
Through breakthrough Innovation and the strength of our people. We're delivering Superior performance for our customers and advancing a more sustainable future.
With our proven business, operating system record, backlog, and strong demand, we are, well, positioned to deliver differentiated shareholder value in 2026 and Beyond.
And now we'd be happy to take your questions, operator.
Operator: Thank you, sir. Everyone, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, we do ask that you limit your questions to 1 initial and 1 follow-up. First question today comes from Chris Snyder from Morgan Stanley.
Operator: Thank you, sir. Everyone, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, we do ask that you limit your questions to 1 initial and 1 follow-up. First question today comes from Chris Snyder from Morgan Stanley.
Thank you, sir everyone. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, we do ask that you limit your questions to 1 initial and 1 follow-up. First question, today comes from Chris, Snider from Morgan Stanley.
Chris Snyder: Thank you. I wanted to ask about the Americas Applied orders. You know, just kind of keep getting better, you know, despite the bar already being very high. I think this quarter up 160%. I guess my question is, are customers ordering with longer lead times than they were 6 or 12 months ago? Like when you guys look at this backlog, is the delivery schedule, you know, meaningfully different versus a year ago? Just trying to figure if part of the strength is there's some extension in that lead times. Thank you.
Chris Snyder: Thank you. I wanted to ask about the Americas Applied orders. You know, just kind of keep getting better, you know, despite the bar already being very high. I think this quarter up 160%. I guess my question is, are customers ordering with longer lead times than they were 6 or 12 months ago? Like when you guys look at this backlog, is the delivery schedule, you know, meaningfully different versus a year ago? Just trying to figure if part of the strength is there's some extension in that lead times. Thank you.
Thank you. I wanted to ask about the America's applied orders, um, you know, just kind of keep getting better, um, you know, despite the bar already being very high, I think this quarter up 160%, I guess my question is, are customers ordering with longer lead times than they were 6 or 12 months ago? Like, when you guys look at this backlog is the delivery schedule. You know, meaningfully different verse
Dave Regnery: Chris, how are you? This is Dave. Hope all is well. Look, it's a great question.
Dave Regnery: Chris, how are you? This is Dave. Hope all is well. Look, it's a great question.
A year ago, just want to figure if part of the strength is, there's some extension in that uh lead times thank you.
Chris, how are you? This is Dave. Hope all is well.
Chris Snyder: All is well. Thank you.
Chris Snyder: All is well. Thank you.
Dave Regnery: Good. There's a little bit of confusion. Let me try to clear it up. Look, we have published lead times for all of our products. The published lead time on the unitary could be relatively quickly. In many cases, we have stock products, you know, it could be next day. All the way up to our Applied Solutions where you could have lead time, say, 30 weeks. From a lead time perspective, we're very, very competitive. In fact, we also offer, in majority of our Applied products, quick ship programs, which if a customer had an emergency, we'd be able to respond to at a premium, but we'd be able to respond. That's kind of the lead time side of it.
Dave Regnery: Good. There's a little bit of confusion. Let me try to clear it up. Look, we have published lead times for all of our products. The published lead time on the unitary could be relatively quickly. In many cases, we have stock products, you know, it could be next day. All the way up to our Applied Solutions where you could have lead time, say, 30 weeks. From a lead time perspective, we're very, very competitive.
Look uh all well, thank you.
Good. It's a little bit of a little bit confusing. Let me try to clear it up. Look we have published lead times for all of our products.
Dave Regnery: In fact, we also offer, in majority of our Applied products, quick ship programs, which if a customer had an emergency, we'd be able to respond to at a premium, but we'd be able to respond. That's kind of the lead time side of it.
Dave Regnery: If you're asking when customers are asking for the products, a little bit of a different question. That could be really, you know, I think in the past we probably talked about on average. Averages are always a little bit different. We would talk about a, you know, 6 to 9 month. In some verticals, we are seeing that being extended. You know, could it be 12 months, 18 months in some cases? For sure. Depending on the customer, how much visibility they want us to have, to make sure that we make sure our supply chain is ready as well. It, it's, I guess the answer is, if you're asking from a customer standpoint, for sure it's a little bit longer.
Dave Regnery: If you're asking when customers are asking for the products, a little bit of a different question. That could be really, you know, I think in the past we probably talked about on average. Averages are always a little bit different. We would talk about a, you know, 6 to 9 month. In some verticals, we are seeing that being extended.
And the published lead time on the unitary could be relatively quickly. In many cases we have stock products, uh, so it could be, you know, next day, uh, all the way up through our applied Solutions, where you could have lead time, say 30 weeks. So, from a lead time perspective, we're very, very competitive. In fact, we also offer in majority of our applied products quick ship programs which if a customer had an emergency, we'd be able to respond to at a premium, but we'd be able to respond. So that's kind of the lead time side of it. Now, if you're asking when customers are asking for the products, a little bit of a different question.
Dave Regnery: You know, could it be 12 months, 18 months in some cases? For sure. Depending on the customer, how much visibility they want us to have, to make sure that we make sure our supply chain is ready as well. It, it's, I guess the answer is, if you're asking from a customer standpoint, for sure it's a little bit longer.
Dave Regnery: Customers want that security that they're gonna make sure that we have their order and we're able to execute to it. From a lead times that we actually publish that we actually can meet demand for customers, that is as it's always been.
Dave Regnery: Customers want that security that they're gonna make sure that we have their order and we're able to execute to it. From a lead times that we actually publish that we actually can meet demand for customers, that is as it's always been.
Question, and that could be really, you know, I think, in the past we probably talked about on average, an average is, are always a little bit different. We would talk about a, you know, 6 to 9 months, in some verticals, we are seeing that being extended, um, you know, could it be 12 months, 18 months, in some cases, for sure, depending on the customer how much visibility they want us to have, um, to make sure that we make sure our supply chain is ready as well. So it's, um, it's, I guess the answer is, is if you're asking from a customer standpoint, for sure, it's a little bit longer customers. Want that security that they're going to make sure that, uh, we have their order and we're able to execute to it from a lead times that we actually publish that we actually can meet demand for customers. That is as it's always been.
Chris Snyder: Thank you. I appreciate you highlighting that distinction between the customer's lead times and your own, 'cause it does seem quite important. You know, maybe if I could just follow up on some of the cost/tariff changes that are in the market. I guess any, you know, impact on your H2 price expectations in response to that? Just, you know, kind of maybe more broadly, we hear a lot about difficulty or challenges of producing in the US and others say it's just, you know, straight up uneconomical. You know, you guys have proved the opposite. You know, can you just maybe talk about the advantages of, you know, producing in the United States, and how have you been able to compete effectively while facing the higher labor costs that come from domestic production?
Chris Snyder: Thank you. I appreciate you highlighting that distinction between the customer's lead times and your own, 'cause it does seem quite important. You know, maybe if I could just follow up on some of the cost/tariff changes that are in the market. I guess any, you know, impact on your H2 price expectations in response to that? Just, you know, kind of maybe more broadly, we hear a lot about difficulty or challenges of producing in the US and others say it's just, you know, straight up uneconomical. You know, you guys have proved the opposite.
Chris Snyder: You know, can you just maybe talk about the advantages of, you know, producing in the United States, and how have you been able to compete effectively while facing the higher labor costs that come from domestic production? Thank you.
Thank you, and I appreciate you highlighting that distinction between like the customers lead times in your own because because it it does seem quite important. Um, you know, maybe if I could just follow up on some of the costs tariff, um, changes that are in the market. Um, I guess any, you know impact, um on your back half price expectations in response to that and then just you know kind of maybe more broadly. We hear a lot about difficulty or challenges of producing in the US and others say it's just you know straight up uneconomical. You know you guys have proved the opposite. Um you know can you just maybe talk about the
Advantages of, um, you know, producing in the United States, and how have you been able to compete effectively?
Chris Snyder: Thank you.
Chris Kuehn: Yeah, Chris, thanks for the questions. I'll kick off and I think Dave will jump in. Look, tariffs and inflation, look, it's a certainly a dynamic environment with many changes since our last earnings call in January. On a net basis, we are expecting more inflation, including from raw materials and tariffs in the year than was estimated, say 90 days ago. We do expect inflation will put some near term pressure on price cost. However, we expect to manage this for the full year, and it's baked into our guide. I'm not gonna size the dollar impact for competitive reasons. However, let me just share some context that I think would be helpful. You know, we've had an in region, for region manufacturing strategy for well over a decade in Trane Technologies.
Chris Kuehn: Yeah, Chris, thanks for the questions. I'll kick off and I think Dave will jump in. Look, tariffs and inflation, look, it's a certainly a dynamic environment with many changes since our last earnings call in January. On a net basis, we are expecting more inflation, including from raw materials and tariffs in the year than was estimated, say 90 days ago. We do expect inflation will put some near term pressure on price cost. However, we expect to manage this for the full year, and it's baked into our guide.
While facing the higher labor costs that come from domestic production. Thank you.
Yeah, Chris thanks for the thanks for the questions. Um, I'll kick off and I'm I think Dave will jump in but look, tariffs and inflation. Look, it's a certainly, a dynamic environment with many changes since our last earnings call in January,
More inflation, including from raw materials and tariffs in the year than was estimated say 90 days ago.
Chris Kuehn: I'm not gonna size the dollar impact for competitive reasons. However, let me just share some context that I think would be helpful. You know, we've had an in region, for region manufacturing strategy for well over a decade in Trane Technologies.
We do expect inflation, we'll put some near-term pressure on price cost. However we expect to manage this for the full year and it's baked into our guide.
Uh, I'm not going to size the dollar impact for competitive reasons. However, let me just share some context that I think would be helpful.
Chris Kuehn: At the end of 2025, we had 21 factories in the Americas. Of that, 20 of those factories are in the US and 1 factory is in Mexico. Since then, we've acquired Stellar Energy, which added production in Florida, which we're expanding, and we're expanding capacity with a new site to open later this year in Texas. One more thing to add. Over 95% of our products sold in the US are manufactured and/or assembled in the US. Look, we've had a very strong track record to manage through inflation and tariffs, maybe some short term pressure, we've got that managed in our guide, we'll continue to leverage our business operating system to mitigate the impact of inflation, including tariffs over time. We'll look at mitigating the cost with suppliers.
Chris Kuehn: At the end of 2025, we had 21 factories in the Americas. Of that, 20 of those factories are in the US and 1 factory is in Mexico. Since then, we've acquired Stellar Energy, which added production in Florida, which we're expanding, and we're expanding capacity with a new site to open later this year in Texas. One more thing to add. Over 95% of our products sold in the US are manufactured and/or assembled in the US.
You know, we've had an in Region, 4 region manufacturing strategy for well, over a decade in train technology.
At the end of 2025, we had 21 factories in the Americas.
Of that. 20 of those factories are in the US. And 1 Factory is in Mexico.
Since then we've acquired Stellar energy, which added production in Florida, which were expanding, and we're expanding capacity with a new site to open later this year in Texas.
So 1 more thing to add over 95% of our products sold in the US are manufactured Andor assembled in the US.
Chris Kuehn: Look, we've had a very strong track record to manage through inflation and tariffs, maybe some short term pressure, we've got that managed in our guide, we'll continue to leverage our business operating system to mitigate the impact of inflation, including tariffs over time. We'll look at mitigating the cost with suppliers.
So look, we've had a very strong track record to manage through inflation and tariffs. Uh maybe some short-term, uh, pressure but we've got that managed in our guide and we'll continue to leverage our business operating system to mitigate the impact of inflation including tariffs over time.
Chris Kuehn: We'll look at alternative sources of supply, and then we'll look at pricing as necessary to offset that cost. At this point, I don't wanna get ahead of our businesses on price for the year. Our guide was around 1.5 points back in January. It's probably a little bit higher than that, probably closer to 2 points at the enterprise level now. We'll continue to leverage the business operating system and mitigate the cost where we can and price where we need to.
Chris Kuehn: We'll look at alternative sources of supply, and then we'll look at pricing as necessary to offset that cost. At this point, I don't wanna get ahead of our businesses on price for the year. Our guide was around 1.5 points back in January. It's probably a little bit higher than that, probably closer to 2 points at the enterprise level now. We'll continue to leverage the business operating system and mitigate the cost where we can and price where we need to.
Dave Regnery: Chris, just to follow up there on the how do we stay competitive. Look, I'll brag about our operating system, right? We are a great operator at Trane Technologies, and we like our plants right here in the United States. We like creating jobs right here in the United States, and we do it in a very competitive way. Every time I go to one of our plants, I just see all the improvements they're making from the last time I had an opportunity to visit, and I just get so excited about what the future's gonna look like for our company. Look, as Chris said, we have over 21 plants now in the United States or will shortly, like that.
Dave Regnery: Chris, just to follow up there on the how do we stay competitive. Look, I'll brag about our operating system, right? We are a great operator at Trane Technologies, and we like our plants right here in the United States. We like creating jobs right here in the United States, and we do it in a very competitive way.
Dave Regnery: Every time I go to one of our plants, I just see all the improvements they're making from the last time I had an opportunity to visit, and I just get so excited about what the future's gonna look like for our company. Look, as Chris said, we have over 21 plants now in the United States or will shortly, like that. We are very, very competitive, as you can see with our results.
We'll look at mitigating the cost with suppliers, we'll look at alternative sources of supply. And then we'll look at pricing as necessary to offset that cost. So, at this point, I don't want to get ahead of our businesses on price for the year. Um, our guide was around 1 and a half points back in January. It's probably a little bit higher than that. Probably closer to 2 points at the Enterprise level now but we'll continue to leverage the business operating system and uh mitigate the cost where we can and price where we need to. Yeah. And Chris your just to follow up there on the how do we stay competitive? Look, um I'll I'll brag about our operating system, right? We are a great operator at Trane Technologies and uh we like we like our plants right here in the United States. We like creating jobs right here in the United States and we do it and we do it in a very competitive way and um um, every time I go to 1 of our plants, I just see all the improvements they're making from the last time I had an opportunity to visit and I just get
Dave Regnery: We are very, very competitive, as you can see with our results.
So excited about what the future's going to look like for our company. So um look we have this. Chris said we have over 21 plants now in the United States or a real shortly um like that. And um and we are very very competitive as you can see with our results.
Chris Snyder: Thank you both. Really appreciate that.
Chris Snyder: Thank you both. Really appreciate that.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Chris.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Chris.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks.
Thank you both, really appreciate that.
Dave Regnery: See you soon.
Dave Regnery: See you soon.
Thanks Chris. Thanks, see you soon?
Operator: Julian Mitchell from Barclays has the next question.
Operator: Julian Mitchell from Barclays has the next question.
Julian Mitchell, from Barclays, has the next question.
Julian Mitchell: Hi, good morning. Just wanted to start off with a question on operating leverage. You know, I think organically it was high teens in the Q1, and you've got that mid-twenties sort of baseline for the year. Maybe kind of walk us through how we should think about the operating leverage playing out through the balance of the year organically. I suppose the inorganic headwind to that shrinks progressively. Is that the fair way to look at it?
Julian Mitchell: Hi, good morning. Just wanted to start off with a question on operating leverage. You know, I think organically it was high teens in the Q1, and you've got that mid-twenties sort of baseline for the year. Maybe kind of walk us through how we should think about the operating leverage playing out through the balance of the year organically. I suppose the inorganic headwind to that shrinks progressively. Is that the fair way to look at it?
Chris Kuehn: Hey, Julian. Good morning. Yeah, I mean, in Q1, I think leverage was consistent with our expectations. We did a little bit better in the residential business. We had a bit of a headwind in the impact in the Middle East due to the conflict. You're right, it was around high teens organic leverage in Q1. We do see that improving as we move the year. You can think around Q2 is in that mid-20s kinda range. In H2, we're in the mid to high 20s in terms of organic leverage. We continue to see an acceleration in the top line and then conversion to the bottom line in H2 of the year, consistent with our guide in January.
Chris Kuehn: Hey, Julian. Good morning. Yeah, I mean, in Q1, I think leverage was consistent with our expectations. We did a little bit better in the residential business. We had a bit of a headwind in the impact in the Middle East due to the conflict. You're right, it was around high teens organic leverage in Q1. We do see that improving as we move the year. You can think around Q2 is in that mid-20s kinda range. In H2, we're in the mid to high 20s in terms of organic leverage. We continue to see an acceleration in the top line and then conversion to the bottom line in H2 of the year, consistent with our guide in January.
Hi, good morning. Um, just wanted to start off with a question on operating leverage um, you know, I think organically it was high teens in in the first quarter and and you've got that mid twenties sort of Baseline for the year. Um, maybe kind of walk us through how how we should think about the operating leverage playing out through the balance of the year. Um organically and and I suppose the inorganic headwind to that shrinks progressively is, is that the fair way to look at it?
Hey Julian, good morning. Uh yeah I mean in the first quarter technically with our expectations.
Um, we did a little bit better in the residential business. We had a bit of a headwind in, um, the impact of the Middle East due to the conflict and you're right. It was around High Teens organic, leverage in the first quarter.
Chris Kuehn: We have even more conviction about H2 and the guide for the year. A little bit easier comps in residential, growing top line in transport. We expect to have a very strong business in H2 with America's Commercial HVAC executing on the backlog and when customers want product.
Chris Kuehn: We have even more conviction about H2 and the guide for the year. A little bit easier comps in residential, growing top line in transport. We expect to have a very strong business in H2 with America's Commercial HVAC executing on the backlog and when customers want product.
We do see that improving as we move the year, so you can think around the second quarter is in that mid 20s kind of range. And then in the second half where in the mid to high 20s in terms of organic leverage, we um continue to see an acceleration in the top line and then conversion to the bottom line, the second half of the year. Um, consistent with our guide in January. Yeah, be more conviction about the second half of the year and the guide for the year and, uh, a little bit easier to comps and residential growing. Uh,
Dave Regnery: Yeah, the only thing I would add, Julian, is in our resi business, we talked about this on our Q4 earnings call, we're level loading. Where in the past we would ramp up our factory and over really produce in the first, you know, 5 months of the year and then lean that down as we work through the peak season, we've changed our playbook there. We're level loading. Yeah, we are taking a bit of an absorption impact here in the first H1, but that will obviously come back in the back H2.
Dave Regnery: Yeah, the only thing I would add, Julian, is in our resi business, we talked about this on our Q4 earnings call, we're level loading. Where in the past we would ramp up our factory and over really produce in the first, you know, 5 months of the year and then lean that down as we work through the peak season, we've changed our playbook there. We're level loading. Yeah, we are taking a bit of an absorption impact here in the first H1, but that will obviously come back in the back H2.
Top Line and transport. And we expect to have a very strong uh, business in the second half of the year with America's commercial HVAC executing on the backlog. And when customers want product. Yeah, the only the only thing I would add Julian is and our resi business. And we talked about this on our fourth quarter earnings call, we're level loading,
So we're in the past, we would ramp up our Factory and over really produce in the first, you know, 5 months of the year and then lead that down as we work through the peak season. We've we've changed our Playbook there. So, we're level loading. So, yeah, we are taking a bit of an absorption impact here in the first, I'll say half of the year but that will obviously come back in the back, the back half of the year.
Julian Mitchell: That's helpful. Thank you. Maybe just a follow-up question on the resi HVAC side of things. Any big differences you're seeing on the one-step versus two-step, sort of movement there? What's your confidence in terms of that inventory level in the channel? Any early reads on summer selling season as it's starting out soon? Thank you.
Julian Mitchell: That's helpful. Thank you. Maybe just a follow-up question on the resi HVAC side of things. Any big differences you're seeing on the one-step versus two-step, sort of movement there? What's your confidence in terms of that inventory level in the channel? Any early reads on summer selling season as it's starting out soon? Thank you.
On the 1-step versus 2-Step. Um,
Dave Regnery: Good question. I mean, look, we're very happy with our Q1, and resi came in a bit better than what we anticipated, down mid-single digits. As far as inventory goes in, look, as we said on our Q4 call, we thought it was set properly in the independent wholesale distributor channel. Here we are at the end of Q1, and we say it's set properly. No change to that. We have the desired inventory levels, and, you know, we're optimistic. I mean, at the end of Q4, we thought we could be down, you know, 5% in our resi business. We've now modified that. We think it's gonna be a flattish year, but we'll see how it plays out. We're only in Q1.
Dave Regnery: Good question. I mean, look, we're very happy with our Q1, and resi came in a bit better than what we anticipated, down mid-single digits. As far as inventory goes in, look, as we said on our Q4 call, we thought it was set properly in the independent wholesale distributor channel. Here we are at the end of Q1, and we say it's set properly. No change to that.
Sort of movement there and and what's your confidence in terms of that inventory level uh in the channel and and any early reads on some are selling season uh as its starting out soon. Thank you.
Dave Regnery: We have the desired inventory levels, and, you know, we're optimistic. I mean, at the end of Q4, we thought we could be down, you know, 5% in our resi business. We've now modified that. We think it's gonna be a flattish year, but we'll see how it plays out. We're only in Q1.
Dave Regnery: Early signs are, you know, we're executing well. We're more bullish than we have been for a while in our resi business. The team there is doing a great job executing, so we'll see how the rest of the year plays out.
Dave Regnery: Early signs are, you know, we're executing well. We're more bullish than we have been for a while in our resi business. The team there is doing a great job executing, so we'll see how the rest of the year plays out.
Good question. I mean, look, we're, we're, we're very happy with our first quarter and resi came in a bit better than what. We anticipated down mid single digits. Um, as far as inventory goes in the look, as we said, on our first 4 quarter call, we thought it was set properly in the independent Wholesale Distributor Channel. Um, and here we are at the end of the first quarter, and we say, it's, it's, it's set properly. So, uh, no change to that. Uh, we we have the desired inventory levels and, uh, you know, we're we're optimistic. I mean, we at the end of the fourth quarter, we thought we could be down, you know, 5% in our resi business. We've now modified that we think it's going to be a flat this year, uh but we'll see how it plays out. We're only in q1 but uh, early signs are um, you know, we're executing well and um we're more bullish than we have been uh for a while in our resi business and the team there is doing a great job executing so we'll see how the rest of the year plays out.
Julian Mitchell: Fantastic. Thank you.
Julian Mitchell: Fantastic. Thank you.
Fantastic, thank you.
Dave Regnery: Good. Thanks, Julian.
Dave Regnery: Good.
Chris Kuehn: Thanks, Julian.
Good. Thanks. Jillian.
Operator: The next question comes from Scott Davis, Melius Research.
Operator: The next question comes from Scott Davis, Melius Research.
The next question comes from Scott Davis with Melius Research.
Scott Davis: Hey, good morning, guys.
Scott Davis: Hey, good morning, guys.
Dave Regnery: Hey, Scott. How are you?
Dave Regnery: Hey, Scott. How are you?
Hey, good morning, guys.
Chris Kuehn: Good morning.
Chris Kuehn: Good morning.
Hey Scott, how are you? Good morning.
Scott Davis: I'm great. It's good that the week is winding down here a bit. It's gonna be a long day, to be honest, but otherwise good. Look, I wanna back up a little bit. I think, you know, last quarter you talked about the Applied Solutions orders widening out beyond just data center. Can you give a little bit of color on that? What particular markets? You know, I'm assuming that continued, just given the order's up 160%. Has to be pretty broad-based. Can you talk a little bit about some of the non-data center verticals that were strong for you?
Scott Davis: I'm great. It's good that the week is winding down here a bit. It's gonna be a long day, to be honest, but otherwise good. Look, I wanna back up a little bit. I think, you know, last quarter you talked about the Applied Solutions orders widening out beyond just data center. Can you give a little bit of color on that? What particular markets? You know, I'm assuming that continued, just given the order's up 160%. Has to be pretty broad-based. Can you talk a little bit about some of the non-data center verticals that were strong for you?
Uh, I'm—I'm great. Uh, it's, um...
It's, uh, it's, it's, it's good that the week is winding down here, but, but, um,
It's gonna be a long day to be honest, but otherwise it's good.
So, look, I want to back up a little bit. I think, you know, last quarter you talked about the applied orders widening out and, uh, beyond just Data Center,
Dave Regnery: I mean, I think I talked a little bit in the prepared remarks, but it was broad-based, which is always encouraging for us. Look, everyone should understand, data centers was very strong, okay? Very strong. We had, you know, from a revenue standpoint, we had growth in the majority of the verticals that we track in, at least in the Americas. I think we had, I think it was 9 of the 14 verticals had positive growth. You could see that this is a broad base. We have, I want to make sure everyone's aware, we have not lost focus on the core, or what we call the core, even though data centers are very strong.
um, can you give a little bit of color on that? What particular markets? It's, you know, I'm assuming that continued just giving the orders up 160% has to be pretty broad-based, but we talked a little bit about some of the non-data center verticals that were strong for you.
Dave Regnery: I mean, I think I talked a little bit in the prepared remarks, but it was broad-based, which is always encouraging for us. Look, everyone should understand, data centers was very strong, okay? Very strong. We had, you know, from a revenue standpoint, we had growth in the majority of the verticals that we track in, at least in the Americas. I think we had, I think it was 9 of the 14 verticals had positive growth. You could see that this is a broad base. We have, I want to make sure everyone's aware, we have not lost focus on the core, or what we call the core, even though data centers are very strong.
Yeah, I mean I think I talked a little bit in the prepared remarks but yeah, it was broad-based which is always encouraging for us.
Look, everyone should understand data centers was very strong, okay? Very strong. However, we had, you know, from a revenue standpoint. We had growth in the majority of the verticals that we track in the, at least in the America. So I think we had, I think it was 9 9 9, 9 of the 14, verticals had Positive Growth, so you could see that. This is a broad-based. Uh, we have, I want to make sure everyone's aware. We have not lost focus on the core or what we call the core. Uh, even though data centers, uh, are very
Dave Regnery: You know, I'll remind everyone that 95% plus of our account managers or sales force do not call on data centers, and they have real deep domain expertise in these verticals, and that really allows us to win. Broad-based growth. You know, mega projects continue to grow, data centers continue to grow, and obviously our order rates continue to grow, it's gonna be a great year for Trane Technologies.
Dave Regnery: You know, I'll remind everyone that 95% plus of our account managers or sales force do not call on data centers, and they have real deep domain expertise in these verticals, and that really allows us to win. Broad-based growth. You know, mega projects continue to grow, data centers continue to grow, and obviously our order rates continue to grow, it's gonna be a great year for Trane Technologies.
Very strong. Um, you know, I'll remind everyone that 95% plus of our account managers, or, or Salesforce do not call on data centers and they have no deep domain expertise in these verticals and that really allows us to win so broad-based growth, um, you know, Mega projects continue to grow data centers, continue to grow and obviously, our order rates continue to grow and um,
Chris Kuehn: Scott, I'll add on the backlog. The growth in Q1 was, I'll use a little bit of round numbers here, around $3 billion. Of that $3 billion, around $1.2 billion was from acquisitions, and of that was around $1 billion for Stellar Energy. That means we had about $1.7 billion, $1.8 billion of backlog growth from the core, from organic growth in the business. A very strong quarter in terms of backlog growth. We typically have seen ±$200 million to the backlog in any quarter over the last few years. Very strong momentum in orders and backlog, and the pipeline continues to remain very strong.
Chris Kuehn: Scott, I'll add on the backlog. The growth in Q1 was, I'll use a little bit of round numbers here, around $3 billion. Of that $3 billion, around $1.2 billion was from acquisitions, and of that was around $1 billion for Stellar Energy. That means we had about $1.7 billion, $1.8 billion of backlog growth from the core, from organic growth in the business. A very strong quarter in terms of backlog growth. We typically have seen ±$200 million to the backlog in any quarter over the last few years. Very strong momentum in orders and backlog, and the pipeline continues to remain very strong.
It's going to be a great year for Trane technology, Scott, I'll I'll add on the backlog. The the growth in the first quarter was was I used a little bit around numbers here around 3 billion dollars
And of that 3 billion dollars around 1.2 billion was from Acquisitions. And and of that was around a billion dollars for Stellar energy. So that means we had about 1.7, 1.8 billion dollars of backlog growth from the from the core from uh, from organic growth and uh, in the business. So a very strong quarter in terms of backlog. Um, growth, we we typically have seen plus or minus a couple hundred million dollars to the backlog in any quarter of the last few years. So, very strong momentum in orders and backlog and the pipeline continues to remain very strong.
Scott Davis: Are you guys, operating full out in your factories, in your applied facilities right now? Are you fully capacitized at this point, or do you still have a little bit of flex?
Scott Davis: Are you guys, operating full out in your factories, in your applied facilities right now? Are you fully capacitized at this point, or do you still have a little bit of flex?
And and are you guys?
Uh operating full out in your factories and your applied facilities right now are are you fully capacitive at this point? Or do you still have a little bit of flex?
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I mean, there's flex in some of the factories. Obviously, we're operating at a very high level right now. You know, capacity is one of those things where everyone will, How are you defining it? Right? Right now, in the majority of our factories, we're only running two shifts. In fact, some, we're only running one shift. We certainly have that to fall back on. With that said, I would also tell you that, you know, we have expanded our capacity, certainly over the last three years, and we have plans to continue that expansion. In fact, we're making those investments as we speak. You know, Stellar, Chris talked about earlier, we also have expansions going into our, some of our Applied factories as well.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I mean, there's flex in some of the factories. Obviously, we're operating at a very high level right now. You know, capacity is one of those things where everyone will, How are you defining it? Right? Right now, in the majority of our factories, we're only running two shifts. In fact, some, we're only running one shift. We certainly have that to fall back on.
Dave Regnery: With that said, I would also tell you that, you know, we have expanded our capacity, certainly over the last three years, and we have plans to continue that expansion. In fact, we're making those investments as we speak. You know, Stellar, Chris talked about earlier, we also have expansions going into our, some of our Applied factories as well.
Chris Kuehn: Yeah. Scott, we did raise our CapEx target for the year. We're generally 1% to 2% of revenue. We raised it to 2% to 3% of revenue to capture the expanded production in Florida and in Texas for Stellar, and also to make sure we are staying ahead of where we see the growth, especially in our applied commercial HVAC business. Still targeting greater than or equal to 100% of free cash flow, even with that higher CapEx spend for the year.
Chris Kuehn: Yeah. Scott, we did raise our CapEx target for the year. We're generally 1% to 2% of revenue. We raised it to 2% to 3% of revenue to capture the expanded production in Florida and in Texas for Stellar, and also to make sure we are staying ahead of where we see the growth, especially in our applied commercial HVAC business. Still targeting greater than or equal to 100% of free cash flow, even with that higher CapEx spend for the year.
Yeah, I mean there there's Flex in some of the factories. Obviously, we're operating at a very high level right now. Um, but you know, capacity is 1 of those things, where everyone will how you defining it, right? Right now in the majority of our factories, we're only running 2 shifts. So in fact, some were only running 1 shift. So we certainly have that for fall back on. With that said, I would also tell you that, you know, we have expanded our capacity certainly over the last 3 years and we have plans to continue that expansion. Um, in fact we're making those Investments as we speak. You know, Stellar Chris talked about earlier, we also have expansions going into our, some of our applied factories as well.
We raised it to 2 to 3 percent of Revenue.
A to capture the expanded, uh, production in Florida, and in Texas, for stellar and also to make sure we are staying ahead of where we see the growth, especially in our applied commercial HVAC business. So um, still targeting greater than or equal to 100% of free cash flow. Uh even with that higher capex spend for the year.
Scott Davis: Excellent. Well done. I appreciate it, guys, and best of luck this year.
Scott Davis: Excellent. Well done. I appreciate it, guys, and best of luck this year.
Dave Regnery: Appreciate it, Scott.
Dave Regnery: Appreciate it, Scott.
Excellent, well done. Uh I appreciate it guys. And best of luck this year
Chris Kuehn: Thank you.
Chris Kuehn: Thank you.
Dave Regnery: Thanks.
Dave Regnery: Thanks.
Appreciate it. Thanks.
Operator: Everyone, as a reminder, please press star one if you have a question today. We'll take the next question from Andy Kaplowitz from Citi.
Operator: Everyone, as a reminder, please press star one if you have a question today. We'll take the next question from Andy Kaplowitz from Citi.
Today will take the next question from Andy, kaplowitz from City.
Andy Kaplowitz: Good morning, everyone.
Andy Kaplowitz: Good morning, everyone.
Dave Regnery: Hey, Andy, how are you?
Dave Regnery: Hey, Andy, how are you?
Good morning, everyone.
Andy Kaplowitz: Good. How are you? Dave and Chris, like, you know, obviously, data centers continue to be strong. I'm curious, like, if you look globally, you look at a market like Asia Pacific, I mean, it's still a tough market, as you said, you did have, I think, 50% growth ex-China in bookings there. You're seeing maybe a little bit more broad-based growth, you know, I don't know if it's led by data centers in places like that or maybe in Europe as well.
Andy Kaplowitz: Good. How are you? Dave and Chris, like, you know, obviously, data centers continue to be strong. I'm curious, like, if you look globally, you look at a market like Asia Pacific, I mean, it's still a tough market, as you said, you did have, I think, 50% growth ex-China in bookings there. You're seeing maybe a little bit more broad-based growth, you know, I don't know if it's led by data centers in places like that or maybe in Europe as well.
Hey, Andy, how are you?
Dave Regnery: Yeah, I mean, data centers are strong globally. Once you get outside of the US, they tend to get smaller in size, but they're strong everywhere. Look, we have a, you know, our Asia team, we're still calling Asia flat for the year, but outside of China, we had some nice growth, nice orders. Team's got a very robust pipeline that they're tracking there. You know, we're gonna continue to execute. I'm still optimistic that we could hopefully do a little bit better than flattish in our Asia Pacific region for the year, and then the team is certainly executing to that goal as well. In Europe, look, I mean, Europe is actually was relatively strong for us in Q1.
Good. How are you? Um, so, so David and Chris, like, you know, obviously data centers continue to be strong, but I'm curious—like, if you look globally, um, you look at the market, like APAC—I mean, it's still a tough market, as you said, but you did have, I think, 50% growth ex-China in bookings there. So you're seeing maybe a little bit more broad-based growth. You know, I don't know if it's led by data centers in places like that, or, or maybe in Europe as well.
Dave Regnery: Yeah, I mean, data centers are strong globally. Once you get outside of the US, they tend to get smaller in size, but they're strong everywhere. Look, we have a, you know, our Asia team, we're still calling Asia flat for the year, but outside of China, we had some nice growth, nice orders. Team's got a very robust pipeline that they're tracking there.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean data centers are strong globally, okay? They're once you get outside of the
Dave Regnery: You know, we're gonna continue to execute. I'm still optimistic that we could hopefully do a little bit better than flattish in our Asia Pacific region for the year, and then the team is certainly executing to that goal as well. In Europe, look, I mean, Europe is actually was relatively strong for us in Q1.
Dave Regnery: I mean, you know, orders were up, as we expected, as was revenue. We're not concerned at all about Europe, and that team continues to be very innovative and satisfying their customers in creative ways. We're happy with Europe. Obviously, the Middle East, we could all understand what's happening there, and we talked about that in our prepared remarks. The good news is all of our employees are safe in the Middle East and, let's hope that conflict gets over in the near term here.
Dave Regnery: I mean, you know, orders were up, as we expected, as was revenue. We're not concerned at all about Europe, and that team continues to be very innovative and satisfying their customers in creative ways. We're happy with Europe. Obviously, the Middle East, we could all understand what's happening there, and we talked about that in our prepared remarks. The good news is all of our employees are safe in the Middle East and, let's hope that conflict gets over in the near term here.
The the US they tend to get smaller in size but but they're strong everywhere. Um look we had some we have a, you know, our Asia team, we're still calling Asia flat for the year but outside of China we had some nice growth, nice orders. Um, teams got a, a very robust pipeline that they're tracking their so um, you know, we're going to, we're going to continue to execute. I'm I'm I'm still optimistic that we could hopefully do a little bit better than flattish in in our Asia Pacific region for the year and then the team is currently executing, um to that goal as well in Europe look, I mean Europe, Europe is actually was relatively strong for us in q1. I mean, you know, orders were up uh, as we expected as was Revenue. So we're not concerned at all about Europe and that team continues to.
They're very innovative and satisfying their customers in creative ways. So we're happy with Europe. Obviously, the Middle East—we could all understand what's happening there, and we talked about that in our prepared remarks. But the good news is all of our employees are safe in the Middle East, and uh...
And, uh, let's hope that conflict gets over in the near term here.
Andy Kaplowitz: Agreed. I'm curious about your continued outperformance in Americas Transport, you know, pretty strong in Q1 versus the market. I know you expect a recovery, you know, late this year, maybe a more gradual recovery than ACT. If you can talk about why you continue to outperform, you know, sort of the new products in the market and, you know, the outlook as you move forward there.
Andy Kaplowitz: Agreed. I'm curious about your continued outperformance in Americas Transport, you know, pretty strong in Q1 versus the market. I know you expect a recovery, you know, late this year, maybe a more gradual recovery than ACT. If you can talk about why you continue to outperform, you know, sort of the new products in the market and, you know, the outlook as you move forward there.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I'll sound like a little bit of a broken record here because we love to talk about the innovation that we're putting out into the marketplace. You know, the transport markets have been down for years now. I think we all know that. We've been saying for a long time that we're gonna continue to invest even in down markets because that's what makes great companies in the long term. You see some of those innovations and the efficiency of our products, the quality of our products. It's, you know, you could go out and do a sample of the trucking industry and you'd see the gold star is Thermo King. It's a gold star for a reason. That team will continue to execute.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I'll sound like a little bit of a broken record here because we love to talk about the innovation that we're putting out into the marketplace. You know, the transport markets have been down for years now. I think we all know that. We've been saying for a long time that we're gonna continue to invest even in down markets because that's what makes great companies in the long term.
Agreed. And I'm curious about your continued outperformance in America's transport, uh, you know, pretty strong q1 versus the market. I know you expect a recovery, you know, late this year. Maybe a more gradual recovery that act. But if you can talk about, why you continue to outperform, you know, sort of the new products in the market. And and you, you know, the Outlook As you move forward there
Dave Regnery: You see some of those innovations and the efficiency of our products, the quality of our products. It's, you know, you could go out and do a sample of the trucking industry and you'd see the gold star is Thermo King. It's a gold star for a reason. That team will continue to execute.
Yeah, it'll sound like a little bit of a broken record here because we love to talk about the innovation that we're putting out into the marketplace. And, you know, the transport markets have been down for years now. I think we all know that. And we've been saying for a long time that we're going to continue to invest even in down markets because that's what makes great companies in the long term.
Dave Regnery: We're seeing some nice signs that hopefully this market turns around. We're pretty confident it's gonna turn here in the H2 of the year. It's late, but 2027 looks like it's gonna be a very strong market. At least if you listen to ACT, they would tell you it's gonna be a strong market and continue to build through the rest of the decade. We're well-positioned there, and I'll congratulate my team there for execution quite well here in the Q1.
Dave Regnery: We're seeing some nice signs that hopefully this market turns around. We're pretty confident it's gonna turn here in the H2 of the year. It's late, but 2027 looks like it's gonna be a very strong market. At least if you listen to ACT, they would tell you it's gonna be a strong market and continue to build through the rest of the decade. We're well-positioned there, and I'll congratulate my team there for execution quite well here in the Q1.
And you see some of those Innovations and the efficiency of our products, the quality of our products, uh, it's uh, you know, you could go out and do a, a sample of the of the trucking industry and and you'd see the the gold stars Thermal King and it's it's a, it's a gold star for a reason. And that team, um,
Uh, will continue to execute. We're seeing some, some nice signs that, hopefully, this Market turns around, we're pretty confident. It's going to turn here in the back half of the year it's late, but, uh, 2027 looks like, uh, it's going to be a very strong market and and at least if you listen to act, uh, they would tell you, it's going to be a strong market and continue to build through the rest of the day.
Decade. So we're well positioned there and um,
I'll congratulate my team there for execution quite well here in the first quarter.
Andy Kaplowitz: Appreciate all the color, Dave.
Andy Kaplowitz: Appreciate all the color, Dave.
Dave Regnery: All right. Take care, Andy. See you now.
Dave Regnery: All right. Take care, Andy. See you now.
Appreciate all the color Dave.
Andy Kaplowitz: You too.
Andy Kaplowitz: You too.
All right, take care, Andy. See you. Now you too.
Operator: Next up is Amit Mehrotra from UBS.
Operator: Next up is Amit Mehrotra from UBS.
Next up is Amit Meera from UBS.
Amit Mehrotra: Thanks. Morning, everybody. Dave, I just would like to see if you can talk about what you think your TAM is within data centers and how Stellar may change that? You know, when I think about Trane and data centers, I think large applied chillers, but obviously there are modular systems now with Stellar, and obviously the orders and the conversion is very good. Can you just talk about, you know, what that does for your competitive offering within data centers and really kind of what it does for your TAM?
Amit Mehrotra: Thanks. Morning, everybody. Dave, I just would like to see if you can talk about what you think your TAM is within data centers and how Stellar may change that? You know, when I think about Trane and data centers, I think large applied chillers, but obviously there are modular systems now with Stellar, and obviously the orders and the conversion is very good. Can you just talk about, you know, what that does for your competitive offering within data centers and really kind of what it does for your TAM?
Dave Regnery: Well, let me start with Stellar, okay? I think that that's a great business, and we're so excited to have it be part of the Trane Technologies family. You know, today, Stellar specializes in building modular chiller plants for data centers, okay? If we start kind of with the end in mind as to where we see Stellar, you know, think of this as a business that in 2 to 3 years is a billion-dollar business. Think of it with mid-teens plus EBITDA serving many verticals, not just data centers. The skilled labor scarcity is not unique to the data center vertical. It applies to all of our verticals, and we know that this is a great solution to help alleviate some of those shortages. We're very excited to have Stellar as part of the acquisition.
Thanks, um, morning everybody. Um, Dave, I just would like to see if you can talk about what you think your TAM is within data centers and how Stellar may change that. You know, when I think about training data centers, I think large applied chillers, but obviously, they're modular systems now with Stellar and obviously the orders and the conversion is very good. So can you just talk about, you know, what that does for your competitive offering within data centers and really, kind of what it does for your TAM.
Dave Regnery: Well, let me start with Stellar, okay? I think that that's a great business, and we're so excited to have it be part of the Trane Technologies family. You know, today, Stellar specializes in building modular chiller plants for data centers, okay? If we start kind of with the end in mind as to where we see Stellar, you know, think of this as a business that in 2 to 3 years is a billion-dollar business. Think of it with mid-teens plus EBITDA serving many verticals, not just data centers.
You know, today Stellar specializes in building modular. Chiller plants for data centers, okay? Um but if we start kind of with the end in mind as to where we see Stellar, you know think of this as a business that in 2 to 3 years is a billion dollar business think of it with mid teens Plus ebita.
Dave Regnery: The skilled labor scarcity is not unique to the data center vertical. It applies to all of our verticals, and we know that this is a great solution to help alleviate some of those shortages. We're very excited to have Stellar as part of the acquisition.
Dave Regnery: If you look at it, today, it's $1 billion in backlog. Think about half of that shipping here in 2026. Modest accretion in 2026 as we'll be investing pretty heavily there. Chris talked a little bit about some of the expansions, but we're really deploying our operating system. We'll continue to deploy that and make a good company an even better company. I think it's gonna we'll continue to see benefits with our Stellar acquisition well into the future, and we're excited to have it be part of the family. The other addition that we made was in LiquidStack, which really expanded our offering in CDUs. Another nice addition that's off to a great start, and we'll continue to leverage that.
Dave Regnery: If you look at it, today, it's $1 billion in backlog. Think about half of that shipping here in 2026. Modest accretion in 2026 as we'll be investing pretty heavily there. Chris talked a little bit about some of the expansions, but we're really deploying our operating system. We'll continue to deploy that and make a good company an even better company.
Serving many verticals, not just data centers. Um the the skilled labor scarcity is not unique to the data center vertical. It applies to all of our verticals and we know that this is a great solution to help uh alleviate some of those shortages. So we're very excited to have Stellar as part of the the acquisition. If you look at it. Um, today it's a billion dollars in backlog, think about half of that shipping here in um in 2026, modest secretion in 2026 as we'll be investing. Pretty heavily there, Chris talked a little bit about some of the expansions but we're really deploying our operating system. So, uh, we'll we'll continue to to deploy that and make a, a good company and even better company.
Dave Regnery: I think it's gonna we'll continue to see benefits with our Stellar acquisition well into the future, and we're excited to have it be part of the family. The other addition that we made was in LiquidStack, which really expanded our offering in CDUs. Another nice addition that's off to a great start, and we'll continue to leverage that.
and, uh, so I think it's going to
Dave Regnery: They also have some technology, kind of futuristic technology as well that we think could be part of the solutions in data centers in the future. As far as, you know, our position in data centers, look, we like our position, right? We're thought of as the thermal management experts, okay? We're working with hyperscalers, we're working with other influencers, chip manufacturers and designing what some refer to as reference designs, others refer to as data centers of the future. Look, we get called on for a reason because of, you know, our expertise. As, you know, as far as the TAM goes, it keeps expanding, okay? The data center vertical keeps moving with innovation, and we keep pushing some of that innovation and developing that innovation.
Dave Regnery: They also have some technology, kind of futuristic technology as well that we think could be part of the solutions in data centers in the future. As far as, you know, our position in data centers, look, we like our position, right? We're thought of as the thermal management experts, okay? We're working with hyperscalers, we're working with other influencers, chip manufacturers and designing what some refer to as reference designs, others refer to as data centers of the future.
Dave Regnery: Look, we get called on for a reason because of, you know, our expertise. As, you know, as far as the TAM goes, it keeps expanding, okay? The data center vertical keeps moving with innovation, and we keep pushing some of that innovation and developing that innovation. It's a very strong vertical today, and it will be a very strong vertical well into the future.
Uh, we'll continue to see benefits with our Stellar acquisition well into the future and we're excited to have it be part of the family. The other addition that we made was in liquid stack, which really expanded our offering, uh, in CD use. So, um, another nice addition. That's off to a great start and uh, we'll continue to leverage that. They also have some technology kind of futuristic technology as well. That we think could be part of the solutions and data centers in the future. As far as you know, our position in data centers. Look we we like our position right? We're we we get we're thought of as the thermal management experts okay we're working with hyperscalers, we're working with other influencers um chip manufacturers and designing what what what some refer to as reference designs are this refer to as data centers of the future? Um, but but we, we get called on for a reason because of, uh,
Dave Regnery: It's a very strong vertical today, and it will be a very strong vertical well into the future.
You know, our expertise and this, you know, as far as the Tam goes, it keeps expanding okay. And the and the the data center vertical keeps moving with Innovation and we keep uh pushing some of that Innovation and developing that Innovation. But uh it's a very, very strong vertical today and it will be a very strong vertical, well, into the future
Amit Mehrotra: Great. Maybe just a follow-up to that, I don't know if this question is for Chris. Maybe you can talk about data center service revenue and when you expect that to kick in. Obviously, service is 1/3 of the business mix right now. Maybe you can just help us think about how much of that is already data centers and really like is the mix within mix as data center service revenue ramps up, is the mix within that mix of service positive?
Amit Mehrotra: Great. Maybe just a follow-up to that, I don't know if this question is for Chris. Maybe you can talk about data center service revenue and when you expect that to kick in. Obviously, service is 1/3 of the business mix right now. Maybe you can just help us think about how much of that is already data centers and really like is the mix within mix as data center service revenue ramps up, is the mix within that mix of service positive?
Great. And and maybe just a follow-up to that. Um, I don't know if this question is for Chris, maybe you can talk about data center, um, service revenue and when you expect that to kick in obviously Services, 1 third of the, the business mix right now but maybe we can do something think about how much of that is already data centers and and really like is the mix within mix is data center service Revenue. Ramps up is the mix within that mix of service positive
Chris Kuehn: Sure. I mean, again, with the end in mind, I mean, the service opportunity with the recent last few years' growth in data centers is still well in front of us. We've been in the data center vertical for decades, and so there's been a service component, but it's been one of, one of 14 verticals prior to the last few years with the significant investments there, Amit. That's very much in front of us. We think about complex applied systems. They require the OEM to be connected. They require the OEM to provide service and maintenance. I know the last thing a data center wants is to ever have a fault or go down, so making sure that those systems and cooling systems are operating efficiently and rotation through the products, is obviously very, very important.
Chris Kuehn: Sure. I mean, again, with the end in mind, I mean, the service opportunity with the recent last few years' growth in data centers is still well in front of us. We've been in the data center vertical for decades, and so there's been a service component, but it's been one of, one of 14 verticals prior to the last few years with the significant investments there, Amit. That's very much in front of us. We think about complex applied systems. They require the OEM to be connected.
Chris Kuehn: They require the OEM to provide service and maintenance. I know the last thing a data center wants is to ever have a fault or go down, so making sure that those systems and cooling systems are operating efficiently and rotation through the products, is obviously very, very important.
Chris Kuehn: Maybe one more thing I'll maybe add on Stellar, maybe just from a modeling perspective, as Dave said, we expect about $500 million of revenue this year from Stellar. The base of that business that we acquired is around $350 million of revenue. That was part of our January guide of around 2 points of revenue contribution from M&A. We also had anticipated about maybe 25% of growth off of that, just based on where data center growth was going in our January guide. Now, in April, we've got the entire $500 million in our guide. Think of that as probably around $50 million incremental revenue we've got captured in April. It's an exciting business.
Chris Kuehn: Maybe one more thing I'll maybe add on Stellar, maybe just from a modeling perspective, as Dave said, we expect about $500 million of revenue this year from Stellar. The base of that business that we acquired is around $350 million of revenue. That was part of our January guide of around 2 points of revenue contribution from M&A.
Sure. I mean, uh, again with the end of mine, I mean the, the service opportunity with the recent last few years growth in data centers is still well in front of us. Um, we've been in the data center vertical for decades and so there's been a service component but it's been 1 of 1 of 14 vertical prior to the last few years with the significant Investments there on it. So that's very much in front of us. Uh, we think about complex supplied systems, they require the OEM to be connected. They require the OEM to provide service and maintenance and I know the last thing a data center wants is to ever have a fault or go down. So making sure that those systems and cooling systems are operating efficiently and rotation through, um, through the products. Is obviously very very important, um, and maybe more 1 more thing. I'll maybe add on on Stellar, maybe just from a modeling perspective. Um, as Dave said, we spoke about 500 million dollars of of Revenue this year from Stellar. We had about the the base of that business that we acquires around 350 million.
Chris Kuehn: We also had anticipated about maybe 25% of growth off of that, just based on where data center growth was going in our January guide. Now, in April, we've got the entire $500 million in our guide. Think of that as probably around $50 million incremental revenue we've got captured in April. It's an exciting business.
Chris Kuehn: The pipelines remain very strong in that business as well. To Dave's point, we've got a lot of investments to make to take this from a $350 million business to a billion-dollar-plus revenue business in two to three years.
Chris Kuehn: The pipelines remain very strong in that business as well. To Dave's point, we've got a lot of investments to make to take this from a $350 million business to a billion-dollar-plus revenue business in two to three years.
Dave Regnery: Yeah, just one other comment on services. I think I've told most of you about our investment that we made here in North Carolina in our training facility. It's really the largest of its kind. I had the opportunity the other day to speak to a class, and this particular class was there. They were technicians getting certified in data center commissioning, okay? That's how detailed we are in our training. I tell you, I was so impressed with the talent of our technicians and the excitement that they had on their face that I went home and I told my wife, I said, "When I come back next time, I'm gonna be a service technician." It's gonna be so fun, and there's gonna be so much growth in that space.
Dave Regnery: Yeah, just one other comment on services. I think I've told most of you about our investment that we made here in North Carolina in our training facility. It's really the largest of its kind. I had the opportunity the other day to speak to a class, and this particular class was there. They were technicians getting certified in data center commissioning, okay? That's how detailed we are in our training.
Dave Regnery: I tell you, I was so impressed with the talent of our technicians and the excitement that they had on their face that I went home and I told my wife, I said, "When I come back next time, I'm gonna be a service technician." It's gonna be so fun, and there's gonna be so much growth in that space. Look, we're going to, as Chris said, a lot of this data center service works in front of us, and we're making sure we're ready for it. It's going to be a really fun journey here.
Dave Regnery: Look, we're going to, as Chris said, a lot of this data center service works in front of us, and we're making sure we're ready for it. It's going to be a really fun journey here.
The opportunity has a date at to speak to a class. And this particular class was there there were technicians getting certified in data center commissioning. Okay, that's how detail we are in our training. And, uh, I tell you, I was so impressed with the talent of our technicians and the excitement that they had on their face that I went home and I I told my wife, I said well I come back when I come back next time I'm going to be a service technician. Uh it's just so it's just it's it's going to be so fun and there's going to be so much growth in that space. But uh look we're going to as Chris said a lot of this uh data center service Works in front of us and we're making sure we're ready for it. And um it's going to be a really fun, fun Journey here.
Amit Mehrotra: Great. Dave, I think you'd make a great technician, by the way. Thank you very much.
Amit Mehrotra: Great. Dave, I think you'd make a great technician, by the way. Thank you very much.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. She told me she was okay with me being a technician, but I had to do it now. She didn't want me to come back and be one. Anyways, a lot of fun great team we have there.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. She told me she was okay with me being a technician, but I had to do it now. She didn't want me to come back and be one. Anyways, a lot of fun great team we have there.
Great. Dave. I think you'd make a great technician by the way. Thank you very much. Yeah. See what she was. Okay, with me being a technician. Um but I had to do it now, she didn't want to come back and be 1. So anyways, a lot of fun.
we have their
Operator: Andrew Obin from Bank of America has the next question.
Operator: Andrew Obin from Bank of America has the next question.
Andrew oen, from Bank of America has the next question.
Andrew Obin: Hey, Dave. How are you?
Andrew Obin: Hey, Dave. How are you?
Hey Dave, how are you?
Dave Regnery: Andrew, how are you?
Dave Regnery: Andrew, how are you?
Andrew Obin: Hello, Dave. Dave, I think you're probably doing better than a technician. That would be my guess.
Andrew Obin: Hello, Dave. Dave, I think you're probably doing better than a technician. That would be my guess.
Andrew. How are you? Hello, Jim Dave. I I think you're probably doing better than I technician. That would be my guess.
Dave Regnery: Yeah.
Dave Regnery: Yeah.
Andrew Obin: Maybe a question. You know, there's a lot of conversation about behind-the-meter power and sort of resulting changes in HVAC infrastructure in data centers. Can you maybe talk about absorption chiller technology at Trane? What do you guys have? Do you need to add capacity? Does technology need to evolve to support behind-the-meter needs?
um,
Andrew Obin: Maybe a question. You know, there's a lot of conversation about behind-the-meter power and sort of resulting changes in HVAC infrastructure in data centers. Can you maybe talk about absorption chiller technology at Trane? What do you guys have? Do you need to add capacity? Does technology need to evolve to support behind-the-meter needs?
but uh, maybe a question, uh, you know, there's a lot of conversation about um,
Behind the meter power and sort of resulting changes in, uh, HVAC infrastructure, uh, in data centers. Can you maybe talk about, uh, absorption Chiller technology at train? What do you guys have, uh, do you need to add capacity and does technology need to evolve to support behind the meter needs?
Dave Regnery: Look, I think behind-the-meter needs are not only in data centers, I'll start with that, but, and I'll come back to that. As far as in data centers, sure, we're starting to see that. As far as absorption chillers, yeah, that's a technology that it's been around for a while, okay. It's certainly getting some conversation now in data centers. I would tell you, there's a lot of other types of technologies that we're looking at as well, that probably have, less water usage, and you'll could get some of the same benefits. A little bit careful here, but think of it as adiabatic cooling type solutions that, we're working on in clever ways. That's another one.
Dave Regnery: Look, I think behind-the-meter needs are not only in data centers, I'll start with that, but, and I'll come back to that. As far as in data centers, sure, we're starting to see that. As far as absorption chillers, yeah, that's a technology that it's been around for a while, okay. It's certainly getting some conversation now in data centers.
In data center. Sure. We're starting to see that. Um as far as absorption chillers, yeah. That's a technology that has been around for a while. Okay, it's um
Dave Regnery: I would tell you, there's a lot of other types of technologies that we're looking at as well, that probably have, less water usage, and you'll could get some of the same benefits. A little bit careful here, but think of it as adiabatic cooling type solutions that, we're working on in clever ways. That's another one.
it's certainly getting some conversation now in data since. But I would tell you there's a lot of other
Types of technologies that we're looking at as well, um, that probably have, um,
Dave Regnery: There's certainly a lot of conversation around the, you know, direct current in data centers, so that's another technology that we're doing a lot of work on. All that's gonna be in front of us. There's a couple of, some of the larger chip manufacturers that will actually publish some of these reference designs. It's very interesting to go out and look at some of what our team is working on there. And it's pretty explicit as to what some of those technologies could be in the future. The behind the meter, yeah, that's happening. I would also tell you that we have a philosophy that that will happen in all buildings, right?
Dave Regnery: There's certainly a lot of conversation around the, you know, direct current in data centers, so that's another technology that we're doing a lot of work on. All that's gonna be in front of us. There's a couple of, some of the larger chip manufacturers that will actually publish some of these reference designs. It's very interesting to go out and look at some of what our team is working on there. And it's pretty explicit as to what some of those technologies could be in the future. The behind the meter, yeah, that's happening. I would also tell you that we have a philosophy that that will happen in all buildings, right?
Less water usage, and you'll could get some of the same benefits. A little bit careful here, but think of it as abiotic, cooling type solutions, that, um, we're working on, in, in clever ways. So, that's another 1. Um, there's certainly a lot of conversation around the
You know, direct current in data centers. So that's another technology that we're doing a lot of work on all that's going to be in front of us. And if you look at and there's a couple of um some of the larger chip manufacturers that will actually publish some of these references. It's very interesting to go out and look at some of what our team is working on there and it's pretty explicit as to what some of those Technologies could be in the future. But the behind the meter. Yeah that's happening. And I also tell you that we have a a philosophy that that will happen.
Dave Regnery: You know, long term, we believe that all buildings will be smarter, all buildings will be more resilient, and we believe that we're gonna be part of the solution there with our agentic AI software tools to make buildings a lot smarter. That's really gonna be part of our future growth projections that we have going forward because we know that most buildings waste about 30% of the energy that they pay for. When you can solve that problem, you're solving a great problem for the planet from a carbon footprint standpoint. You're also creating great paybacks for the customer. You probably heard me say before, it is green for green, right? It's green because it's saving our customers a lot of money, and it's also really good for the environment.
Dave Regnery: You know, long term, we believe that all buildings will be smarter, all buildings will be more resilient, and we believe that we're gonna be part of the solution there with our agentic AI software tools to make buildings a lot smarter. That's really gonna be part of our future growth projections that we have going forward because we know that most buildings waste about 30% of the energy that they pay for. When you can solve that problem, you're solving a great problem for the planet from a carbon footprint standpoint.
In in all buildings, right? And you know, long term we believe that all buildings will be smarter, all buildings will be more resilient and we believe that we're going to be part of the solution there with our agentic AI.
Software tools, uh, to make buildings a lot smarter. And um, that's really going to be part of our future growth projections that we have going forward because we know that most buildings waste about 30% of the energy that they pay for
Dave Regnery: You're also creating great paybacks for the customer. You probably heard me say before, it is green for green, right? It's green because it's saving our customers a lot of money, and it's also really good for the environment. Data centers is one part of it, but don't leave out the core because that same concept is going to take hold there.
and when you consult that problem, you're solving a great problem for the planet from a carbon footprint standpoint, you're ALS creating great paybacks for the customer
Dave Regnery: Data centers is one part of it, but don't leave out the core because that same concept is going to take hold there.
And you probably heard me say before it is green for green, right? It's green because it's saving our customers a lot of money and it's also really good for the environment. So, data centers is 1, part of it, but don't leave out the core because that same concept is going to take, hold their
Andrew Obin: Excellent. Thank you. Maybe, you know, once again, staying on the data center topic, you know, you acquired Stellar Energy. Can you just talk about, and also obviously, you know, you have CoolIT? How has dialogue changed with customers since these acquisitions? Specifically, you know, your ability to increase your service presence inside data center with these acquisitions, how should we think about that?
Andrew Obin: Excellent. Thank you. Maybe, you know, once again, staying on the data center topic, you know, you acquired Stellar Energy. Can you just talk about, and also obviously, you know, you have CoolIT? How has dialogue changed with customers since these acquisitions? Specifically, you know, your ability to increase your service presence inside data center with these acquisitions, how should we think about that?
Excellent. Thank you. Uh, and maybe, uh, you know, once again stay on the data center topic, uh, you know, your quiet, Stellar energy. Can you just talk about? Uh, and also obviously, you know, you have cool. It how has dialogue changed, uh, with customers since these Acquisitions and specifically, uh, you know, your ability, uh, to increase your, uh, service presence inside data center with these Acquisitions. How should we think about that?
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I mean, I don't think our dialogue has really changed with the end customers. We kind of always led with our deep domain expertise. We like, you know, direct relationships with the customer, okay? That's not new to us. You know, we have the broadest portfolio in the industry, so we're able to make sure that we're thinking at a system level, not a product level. That hasn't changed. Look, the service organization, and I've said this before, when customers, whether they're be a hyperscaler or a colo, when they come and see the capacity that we have within our service organization, you could see their eyes light up because they see the expertise that we have. They see how we train our associates, they just, it alleviates a big.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I mean, I don't think our dialogue has really changed with the end customers. We kind of always led with our deep domain expertise. We like, you know, direct relationships with the customer, okay? That's not new to us. You know, we have the broadest portfolio in the industry, so we're able to make sure that we're thinking at a system level, not a product level. That hasn't changed.
Yeah. I mean I I don't I don't think our dialogue is really changed with the end customers. We we kind of always LED with our deep domain expertise. We like
Dave Regnery: Look, the service organization, and I've said this before, when customers, whether they're be a hyperscaler or a colo, when they come and see the capacity that we have within our service organization, you could see their eyes light up because they see the expertise that we have. They see how we train our associates, they just, it alleviates a big. If they had a fear that if something went wrong, we'd be there, that fear gets alleviated very quickly.
Customer. Okay. So that's not new to us. Um, you know, we have the broadest portfolio in the industry, so we're able to make sure that we're thinking at a system level, not a product level. Uh, so that hasn't changed. Um, look the service organization. And I've said this before when
Dave Regnery: If they had a fear that if something went wrong, we'd be there, that fear gets alleviated very quickly.
Customers whether there be a, A hyperscaler or a Colo, when they come and see the capacity that we have within our service organization, you can see their eyes light up because they see the expertise that we have, they see how we train, our, our Associates and that they just they they, it alleviates a big, uh, if they had a fear that if something went wrong, we'd be there that that fear gets alleviated very quickly.
Andrew Obin: Thank you.
Andrew Obin: Thank you.
Dave Regnery: Thank you, Andrew.
Dave Regnery: Thank you, Andrew.
Thank you.
Thank you, Andrew.
Operator: Up next, we'll take a question from Noah Kaye, Oppenheimer.
Operator: Up next, we'll take a question from Noah Kaye, Oppenheimer.
Up next, we'll take a question from Noah K., Oppenheimer.
Noah Kaye: Hey, Dave and Chris, how are you?
Noah Kaye: Hey, Dave and Chris, how are you?
Dave Regnery: Good. How are you, Noah?
Dave Regnery: Good. How are you, Noah?
Hey Dave press, how are you?
Andrew Obin: Good morning.
Andrew Obin: Good morning.
Good. How are you now? Good morning.
Noah Kaye: Good, good. Thanks. Same question. Maybe just to go back to transport and the outlook. Can you just give us a little bit more insight on what drives your back half conservatism versus ACT? You know, anything that, you know, you may be seeing from, you know, the pipeline to drive that, or are we just kind of leaving this as upside for the year?
Noah Kaye: Good, good. Thanks. Same question. Maybe just to go back to transport and the outlook. Can you just give us a little bit more insight on what drives your back half conservatism versus ACT? You know, anything that, you know, you may be seeing from, you know, the pipeline to drive that, or are we just kind of leaving this as upside for the year?
Dave Regnery: Yeah, I mean, look, we have several models, okay? ACT is one of them that we use to do our forecasts. Don't just base everything on ACT. Look, we think it's gonna have an uptick in the back H2. It's probably the oldest fleet of vehicles that we've seen in a long, long time, maybe 30, 40 years. I mean, these units eventually have to get replaced. They cost too much to operate if you don't. You know, you have the spot rate that's now, you know, exceeding the contract rate, which is always a good sign. We're bullish that this market's gonna start to come back, when it comes back, it's gonna come back relatively strongly.
Dave Regnery: Yeah, I mean, look, we have several models, okay? ACT is one of them that we use to do our forecasts. Don't just base everything on ACT. Look, we think it's gonna have an uptick in the back H2. It's probably the oldest fleet of vehicles that we've seen in a long, long time, maybe 30, 40 years. I mean, these units eventually have to get replaced. They cost too much to operate if you don't. You know, you have the spot rate that's now, you know, exceeding the contract rate, which is always a good sign. We're bullish that this market's gonna start to come back, when it comes back, it's gonna come back relatively strongly.
Good good, thanks. Thank you for the question. Um, maybe just to go back to transport. Um, and the Outlook, um, he's just give us a little bit more insight on what drives your, your backup conservatism, um, versus act. Um, you know, anything that, you know, you may be seeing from, you know, the pipeline to drive that or we just kind of leaving this as upside for the year.
yeah, I mean look um we we we have several models okay, act as 1 of them that we use to do our forecasts and um so
Don't just base everything on ACT look. We think it's going to have an uptick in the back half of the year; it's probably the oldest.
Fleet of vehicles that we've seen in a long, long time, maybe 30, 40 years, I mean, this is there. These units eventually have to get replaced. Uh, they, they cost too much to operate. If you don't, um, you know, you have the spot rate, that's now you know, exceeding, the contract rate, which is always a good sign.
Dave Regnery: We don't quite have the same inflection point in 2027 as ACT does. We think they're being a little aggressive there 'cause I'm not sure that the trailer OEMs could respond to that type of an increase. We're bullish about, you know, You know, I think it's gonna trough here in the Q2, and I think it's upside in the H2 and really for several years to come. This is a great business and it's had some tough years. Look, I, having personal experience of running this business at one time in my career, we will continue to be very successful in our transport refrigeration business.
Dave Regnery: We don't quite have the same inflection point in 2027 as ACT does. We think they're being a little aggressive there 'cause I'm not sure that the trailer OEMs could respond to that type of an increase. We're bullish about, you know, You know, I think it's gonna trough here in the Q2, and I think it's upside in the H2 and really for several years to come. This is a great business and it's had some tough years. Look, I, having personal experience of running this business at one time in my career, we will continue to be very successful in our transport refrigeration business.
Um, we're bullish that this market's going to start to come back, and when it comes back, it's going to come back relatively strongly. We don't
They quite have the same inflection point in 2027 as ACT. Do we think they're being a little aggressive there? Because I'm not sure that the trailer OEMs could respond to that type of an increase. But we're bullish about—from, you know, I think it's going to drop here in the—
In the second quarter. And I think it's upside uh in the back half of the year and
and really for for several years to come. So this is a great business and uh it's had some uh it's had some tough years. But uh look I I having personal experience of running this business at 1 time in my career. Uh we will continue to be very very successful in our transport Refrigeration business.
Noah Kaye: Thanks, Dave. Maybe just wanna ask about some of the improvements the company made to the reference design for large scale data center deployments. It's a little bit of a piece with your comments earlier on innovation, but, you know, there's more of a benefit from heat recovery integration, larger air-cooled chillers. You know, how far in front of kind of the market is this in terms of the innovation trend? Are you already starting to see this kind of reflected in your orders rates or your pipeline?
Noah Kaye: Thanks, Dave. Maybe just wanna ask about some of the improvements the company made to the reference design for large scale data center deployments. It's a little bit of a piece with your comments earlier on innovation, but, you know, there's more of a benefit from heat recovery integration, larger air-cooled chillers. You know, how far in front of kind of the market is this in terms of the innovation trend? Are you already starting to see this kind of reflected in your orders rates or your pipeline?
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I think you got to take a reference design and think it's probably out there. You know, we could argue whether it's 12 months or 24 months, but it's probably somewhere in between there. You know, I think, like I said, I think you could think of buildings being smarter. I think you're gonna see chillers being smarter. We're doing a lot of work around that. Think of it as taking different elements that may not be part of that system today and embedding them in the system. having a chiller that knows when to run in a free cooling mode only, or having a chiller that knows when to run in a vapor compression cycle and for how long.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I think you got to take a reference design and think it's probably out there. You know, we could argue whether it's 12 months or 24 months, but it's probably somewhere in between there. You know, I think, like I said, I think you could think of buildings being smarter. I think you're gonna see chillers being smarter. We're doing a lot of work around that.
Yep, thanks dude. Uh, maybe just uh, want to ask about some of the improvements. The company made to to the reference design for large scale data center deployments. Um, it's a little bit of a piece with your comments earlier, on Innovation, but, you know, there's there's more of a benefit from heat recovery integration, larger, air cooled chillers. Yeah. How how far in front of kind of the, the market, uh, is this in terms of the, The Innovation Trend are you already starting to see this kind of reflected in your orders rates or your pipeline?
Yeah, I I think you got to take a reference design and think it's probably out there. You know, we could argue whether it's 12 months, or 24 months, but it's probably somewhere in between there. Um, you know, I I think um, like I said, I think you could think of buildings being smarter, I think you're going to see chillers being smarter
Dave Regnery: Think of it as taking different elements that may not be part of that system today and embedding them in the system. having a chiller that knows when to run in a free cooling mode only, or having a chiller that knows when to run in a vapor compression cycle and for how long.
and um, and we're, we're doing a lot of work around that and think of it, as
Taking different elements, that may not be part of that system today and embedding them in the system.
Dave Regnery: Understanding weather patterns and the impact that they have on these microgrids that are being created here with these chiller farms and knowing when to cycle which units, that's all part of the efficiencies. Then you start thinking about the water flow. By the way, these are all closed-loop systems, but the water flow within the system and the velocity and the needs and the pressure. There's a lot of complications here, and I'll get over my skis relatively quickly. I know that we have some-
So, having a chiller that knows when to run in a free cooling mode only, or having a chiller that knows when to run in a vapor compression cycle and for how long.
Dave Regnery: Understanding weather patterns and the impact that they have on these microgrids that are being created here with these chiller farms and knowing when to cycle which units, that's all part of the efficiencies. Then you start thinking about the water flow. By the way, these are all closed-loop systems, but the water flow within the system and the velocity and the needs and the pressure. There's a lot of complications here, and I'll get over my skis relatively quickly. I know that we have some-
Uh, understanding whether patterns and the impact that they have on these um micro grids that are that are being created here with these Chiller farms. And and knowing when to cycle which units, that's all part of the efficiencies. And then you start thinking about
Chris Kuehn: Hmm
Noah Kaye: Hmm
Dave Regnery: really smart technical, engineers that work with the hyperscalers and the Nvidias of the world that love to have these conversations, and little changes make a big difference. It could have a big impact on the bottom line of a data center.
Dave Regnery: really smart technical, engineers that work with the hyperscalers and the Nvidias of the world that love to have these conversations, and little changes make a big difference. It could have a big impact on the bottom line of a data center.
But um I'd love to have these conversations and and little changes make a big difference. And um it could have a big impact on the bottom line of a of a data center.
Noah Kaye: Yep. Yep, thanks for the insight.
Noah Kaye: Yep. Yep, thanks for the insight.
Dave Regnery: Okay. Thanks, Bill.
Dave Regnery: Okay. Thanks, Bill.
Yep. Yep, thanks for the insight.
Okay, thanks Bill.
Operator: Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research is up next.
Operator: Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research is up next.
Nigel, Co from Wolfe research is up next.
Nigel Coe: Thanks. Good morning. I wanna go back to the, you know, the, this AI reference design that you've been highlighting today. Before that, I just wanna make sure we cover just a couple of guidance points. The resi outlook for flat for the year, you got flat for Q2. Seems like on easier comps, the back half looks super easy, or rather super conservative. Just wanna make sure I understand that. Now, I think that ACT did raise their forecasts for the full year. You're not raising your market outlook, so just wondering what that disconnect about.
Nigel Coe: Thanks. Good morning. I wanna go back to the, you know, the, this AI reference design that you've been highlighting today. Before that, I just wanna make sure we cover just a couple of guidance points. The resi outlook for flat for the year, you got flat for Q2. Seems like on easier comps, the back half looks super easy, or rather super conservative. Just wanna make sure I understand that. Now, I think that ACT did raise their forecasts for the full year. You're not raising your market outlook, so just wondering what that disconnect about.
Uh, thanks. Good morning. Um,
I want to go back to the, you know, the this AI reference design that, uh, you've been highlighting Dave, but, but before that, I just want to make sure we cover just a couple of guidance points. Um, the resi Outlook, uh, for flat for the year, you got flat for 2q.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. Well, I mean, I'll start with the TK side of it. Look, we think that ACT maybe was a little bit, maybe wasn't very accurate at the end of Q4. Them raising their number didn't really change our outlook very much at all. Okay. Like I said, we use ACT, we use other sources, including our own internal models. We're happy that it's not a negative number from ACT. I think it jumped up, I think it's 6% now, what they're projecting. We'll see how the year, you know, unfolds here, we're off to a good start in Q1. Some of that had to do with timing of some large customers, as I talked about in our prepared remarks.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. Well, I mean, I'll start with the TK side of it. Look, we think that ACT maybe was a little bit, maybe wasn't very accurate at the end of Q4. Them raising their number didn't really change our outlook very much at all. Okay. Like I said, we use ACT, we use other sources, including our own internal models. We're happy that it's not a negative number from ACT. I think it jumped up, I think it's 6% now, what they're projecting. We'll see how the year, you know, unfolds here, we're off to a good start in Q1.
Seems like on easier comp the back half looks super super easy uh or rather super conservative just want to make sure I understand that. Now I think that at did raise their referral bills for the full year, you're not raising your Market Outlook for just wondering what that disconnects about.
Yeah, well, I mean I thought I'll start with the TK side of it. Look we didn't we thought that TK had we think that act, maybe was a little bit um maybe it wasn't very accurate at the end of the fourth quarter. So uh them raising their their number didn't really change our Outlook very much at all, okay? And like I said, we use active, we use other sources, including our own internal models. So uh, we're happy that it's not a negative number for Max. So I think it jumped up I think it's 6%. Now what they're projecting, we'll see how the year you know.
Dave Regnery: Some of that had to do with timing of some large customers, as I talked about in our prepared remarks. At the end of the day, we're starting to see some growth signs in Thermo King, which I haven't been able to say in a long time. I'm proud of what that team's been able to do.
Dave Regnery: At the end of the day, we're starting to see some growth signs in Thermo King, which I haven't been able to say in a long time. I'm proud of what that team's been able to do.
Unfolds here, but, uh, we're off to a good start in the first quarter. Some of that had to do with timing of some large customers, as I talked about in our prepared remarks. Um, but, uh, again today we're starting to see some
Chris Kuehn: Yeah, Nigel, I'll add on residential. You know, we took the full year guide up to about flattish versus, you know, flat to down 5, in January. Off to a strong start, it's also just Q1 of the year, right? We're just about to enter into the cooling season, calling Q2 around flattish and maybe around mid-single-digit growth in H2. I mean, our teams are ready. We've talked about inventory in the channel is in a very good spot, just like it was 90 days ago. We'll see how the year plays out, but we'll at least like to put it out in this outlook and a lot of confidence in the full year guide.
Chris Kuehn: Yeah, Nigel, I'll add on residential. You know, we took the full year guide up to about flattish versus, you know, flat to down 5, in January. Off to a strong start, it's also just Q1 of the year, right? We're just about to enter into the cooling season, calling Q2 around flattish and maybe around mid-single-digit growth in H2. I mean, our teams are ready. We've talked about inventory in the channel is in a very good spot, just like it was 90 days ago. We'll see how the year plays out, but we'll at least like to put it out in this outlook and a lot of confidence in the full year guide.
Some growth signs and Thermal King, which I haven't been able to say in a long time. So I'm proud of what that team's been able to do. Yeah 9 to all that on on residential. Um, you know, we took the full year guide up to about flat-ish versus, you know, flat to down 5, uh, you know, in January off to a strong start. But it's also just the first quarter of the year, right? We're just about to enter into the cooling season. Uh, calling the second quarter around flattish and uh, maybe around mid single digit growth in the second half. But I mean, our teams are ready. We've talked about inventory, and the channel is in a very good spot, just like it was 90 days ago. And, um,
Dave Regnery: Let me know if you need a unit, okay, Nigel? You could help us out.
Dave Regnery: Let me know if you need a unit, okay, Nigel? You could help us out.
Let's see how the year plays out. But, uh, we'll at least like to put it out in this outlook and, uh, a lot of confidence in the full-year guide. Let me know if you need a unit, okay? Nigel, you can help us out.
Nigel Coe: Well, you know, I just replaced my unit, but you never know, maybe another year or two. Just on going back to data center. Going back to data center, you mentioned, you know, DC power and, you know, you seem to indicate you see that as opportunities. I'm wondering, do you wanna be a DC power sort of equipment provider, or are you talking about, you know, sort of realigning your equipment to be DC power native? Just wanna clarify that. On the AC on the AI reference design, to what extent is that helping to drive, you know, higher content for training? I'm talking about chillers and the whole integrated unit as opposed to, you know, just selling, you know, pieces of the puzzle.
Nigel Coe: Well, you know, I just replaced my unit, but you never know, maybe another year or two. Just on going back to data center. Going back to data center, you mentioned, you know, DC power and, you know, you seem to indicate you see that as opportunities. I'm wondering, do you wanna be a DC power sort of equipment provider, or are you talking about, you know, sort of realigning your equipment to be DC power native? Just wanna clarify that.
Yeah. Well you know, I just I just replaced my unit but you never know, maybe in another year or 2. Um and then just on on the
Going back to Data Center. Um,
Nigel Coe: On the AC on the AI reference design, to what extent is that helping to drive, you know, higher content for training? I'm talking about chillers and the whole integrated unit as opposed to, you know, just selling, you know, pieces of the puzzle.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I think on the DC question. Oh, absolutely. We're not gonna get into DC power, but we're gonna make sure our system can work on DC power. Okay? As far as the reference design, look, every reference design I've seen has chillers in it, okay? I would also tell you that in data centers, as in other verticals, we love to think of it at a system level, and we have the opportunity to think at a system level based on the breadth of our portfolio. We're not wed to any particular component within that system. We just want it all to say Trane Technologies at the end of the day.
Dave Regnery: Yeah. I think on the DC question. Oh, absolutely. We're not gonna get into DC power, but we're gonna make sure our system can work on DC power. Okay? As far as the reference design, look, every reference design I've seen has chillers in it, okay? I would also tell you that in data centers, as in other verticals, we love to think of it at a system level, and we have the opportunity to think at a system level based on the breadth of our portfolio. We're not wed to any particular component within that system. We just want it all to say Trane Technologies at the end of the day.
So go back to Data Center. Um you you mentioned, you know, DC power and you know it seems you seem to indicate you wanted to, you see that as an opportunity. So I'm wondering, do you want to be a DC power sort of equipment provider? Or are you talking about, you know, sort of realigning, your equipment to be DC power native just, just want to clarify that. And then on the AC, on the AI reference design, to what extent is that helping to drive, you know, higher content for training. So I'm talking about chillers and the whole integrated unit as opposed to, you know, just selling, you know, pieces of the of the puzzle.
Yeah, I think on the DC question. Oh absolutely. It's it's we're we're not going to get into the DC power, but we're going to make sure our system can work on DC power, okay? So think of it like that. Um, as far as the reference design look every reference design I've seen
Has chillers in it. Okay. Um, I would also tell you that
Dave Regnery: When we sit down with the influencers in the data center vertical and work on reference designs, we're plugging and playing lots of different products and derivatives of those products that could be in a pipeline of our own NPD pipeline for the future. We're very happy with our position in data centers. You know, we believe that the data center vertical will be strong for the foreseeable future, and we know that we're gonna be a big part of that.
Dave Regnery: When we sit down with the influencers in the data center vertical and work on reference designs, we're plugging and playing lots of different products and derivatives of those products that could be in a pipeline of our own NPD pipeline for the future. We're very happy with our position in data centers. You know, we believe that the data center vertical will be strong for the foreseeable future, and we know that we're gonna be a big part of that.
What in data centers. As in other verticals, we love to think of it as a system level and we have the opportunity to think at a system level based on the breadth of our portfolio. So we're not wed to any particular component within that system. We just want it all to say, train technology. You said at the end of the day and when we sit down with the influencers in the data center, vertical and work on reference designs, we're plugging and playing lots of different products. And derivatives of those products that could be in a pipeline of our own NPD pipeline,
For the future. Uh, we're very happy with our position and data centers. Um,
you know, we we believe that the data center vertical will be strong
for the foreseeable future.
And, um, we know that we're going to be a big part of that.
Nigel Coe: Okay. By the way, Dave, I'll buy a Trane unit if you come and install it. How's that? How about that?
Nigel Coe: Okay. By the way, Dave, I'll buy a Trane unit if you come and install it. How's that? How about that?
Dave Regnery: All right. With my new technician skills, I'm ready, man.
Dave Regnery: All right. With my new technician skills, I'm ready, man.
Okay, and by the way, Dave, I'll buy a Trane unit if you come and install it at my house. How about that?
Nigel Coe: It's good. Okay. Thanks, Dave.
Nigel Coe: It's good. Okay. Thanks, Dave.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Nigel.
Dave Regnery: Thanks, Nigel.
All right, with my new technicians though, I'm ready, man. Okay, okay, thanks, thanks.
Guys.
Operator: Everyone, that does conclude the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Zachary Nagle for any additional or closing remarks.
Operator: Everyone, that does conclude the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Zachary Nagle for any additional or closing remarks.
And everyone that does conclude the question and answer session, I'd like to turn the call back to Zach, Nagel for any additional or closing remarks.
Zac Nagle: I'd just like to thank everyone for joining today's call and wanted to let folks know we'll be around for questions as always. Please feel free to give us a call. Also, we're looking forward to seeing many of you on the road here in Q2, and we'll speak to you at the end of Q2 on our earnings call. Thanks again. Bye.
Zac Nagle: I'd just like to thank everyone for joining today's call and wanted to let folks know we'll be around for questions as always. Please feel free to give us a call. Also, we're looking forward to seeing many of you on the road here in Q2, and we'll speak to you at the end of Q2 on our earnings call. Thanks again. Bye.
Questions as always. So please uh, feel free to give us a call. Also, we're looking forward to seeing many of you on the road here in uh the second quarter and we'll speak to you at the end of the second quarter on our earnings call. Thanks again.
Bye.
Operator: Once again, everyone, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Once again, everyone, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Once again, everyone that does conclude today's conference, we would like to thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect