Q1 2026 Southside Bancshares Inc Earnings Call

April 30, 2026

Speaker #1: Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to Southside Bancshares Inc. First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session.

Operator: Hello everyone. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to Southside Bancshares Inc. Q1 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Lindsey Bailes, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Lindsey, please go ahead.

Speaker #1: If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Lindsey Bailes, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: Lindsey, please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Rebecca. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations.

Lindsey Bailes: Thank you, Rebecca. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares's Q1 2026 earnings call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and in other disclosures and presentations, I'll remind you forward-looking statements are subject to risk and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and our Form 10-K. Joining me today are President and CEO, Keith Donahoe; CFO, Julie Shamburger; and Chief Treasury Officer, Sunnie Davis. Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter, then Julie will give an overview of our financial results, and Sunnie will end with comments on securities and funding. We will have a Q&A session following Sunnie's remarks. I will now turn the call over to Keith.

Speaker #2: During today's call, and in other disclosures and presentations, I'll remind you forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and our Form 10-K.

Lindsey Bailes: Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and our Form 10-K. Joining me today are President and CEO, Keith Donahoe; CFO, Julie Shamburger; and Chief Treasury Officer, Sunnie Davis. Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter, then Julie will give an overview of our financial results, and Sunnie will end with comments on securities and funding. We will have a Q&A session following Sunnie's remarks. I will now turn the call over to Keith.

Speaker #2: Joining me today are President and CEO Keith Donahoe, CFO Julie Shamburger, and Chief Treasury Officer Sunny Davis. Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter, then Julie will give an overview of our financial results, and Sunny will end with comments on securities and funding.

Speaker #2: We will have a Q&A session following Sunny's remarks. I will now turn the call over to Keith.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Lindsey, and welcome to today's call. We are pleased to report solid financial results for the first quarter of '26. Highlights include strong linked-quarter loan growth of 2.7%, increased earnings per share of $0.78, improved annualized return on average assets of 1.10%, and an annualized return on average tangible common equity of 14.39%.

Keith Donahoe: Thank you, Lindsey, and welcome to today's call. We are pleased to report solid financial results for Q1 2026. Highlights include strong linked quarter loan growth of 2.7%, increased earnings per share of $0.78, improved annualized return on average assets of 1.10, and an annualized return on average tangible common equity of 14.39. Lower funding costs resulted in a $441,000 dollar linked quarter increase in net interest income and an improved NIM of 3.01. Our funding costs benefited from the 15 February redemption of approximately $93 million of subordinated debt, which had an interest rate of 7.51%. Q2 funding costs will also benefit from this redemption. Q1 loan growth was driven by strong new loan production combined with lower than expected payoffs.

Speaker #3: Lower funding costs resulted in a $441,000 linked quarter increase in net interest income, and an improved NIM of 301. Our funding costs benefited from the February 15th redemption of approximately $93,00,000 of subordinated debt, which had an interest rate of 7.51%.

Keith Donahoe: Our funding costs benefited from the 15 February redemption of approximately $93 million of subordinated debt, which had an interest rate of 7.51%. Q2 funding costs will also benefit from this redemption. Q1 loan growth was driven by strong new loan production combined with lower than expected payoffs.

Speaker #3: Second-quarter funding costs will also benefit from this redemption.

Speaker #4: First-quarter loan growth was driven by strong new loan production combined with lower-than-expected payoffs. Although we experienced strong first-quarter loan growth, we continue to target mid-single digits for 2026 loan growth due to an expected return to elevated payoffs for the remainder of the year.

Keith Donahoe: Although we experienced strong Q1 loan growth, we continue to target mid-single digits for 2026 loan growth due to an expected return to elevated payoffs for the remainder of the year. New loan production of approximately $431 million compared to $327 million in the prior quarter. Of the new loan production, approximately $240 million funded during the quarter, with the unfunded portion of this quarter's production expected to fund over the next 6 to 9 quarters. Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, Q1 payoffs totaled approximately $113 million and represents the lowest payoff amount during the past 4 quarters. The single largest payoff during the quarter was the twenty-seven and a half million dollar multifamily loan previously included in our non-performing asset category.

Speaker #4: New loan production of approximately $431,000,000 compared to $327,000,000 in the prior quarter. Of the new loan production, approximately $240,000,000 funded during the quarter with the unfunded portion of this quarter's production expected to fund over the next six to nine quarters.

Speaker #4: Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, first quarter payoffs totaled approximately $113,000,000 and represents the lowest payoff amount during the past four quarters.

Keith Donahoe: Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, Q1 payoffs totaled approximately $113 million and represents the lowest payoff amount during the past four quarters. The single largest payoff during the quarter was the twenty-seven and a half million dollar multifamily loan previously included in our non-performing asset category.

Speaker #4: The single largest payoff during the quarter was the $27.5 million multifamily loan previously included in our non-performing asset category. In mid-February, the borrower successfully refinanced the loan balance with a life insurance company.

Keith Donahoe: In mid-February, the borrower successfully refinanced the loan balance with a life insurance company. Additional payoffs during the quarter included an office building, several small retail centers, an industrial warehouse, a skilled nursing facility, and several commercial land loans. Our loan pipeline today totals approximately $1.3 billion, down from a mid-quarter peak of about $2 billion. Despite the reduction, our one but not closed category remains healthy at just over $331 million. The pipeline remains well balanced with approximately 44% term loans and 56% construction and/or commercial lines of credit. This is relatively unchanged from the Q4 mix. C&I related opportunities represent approximately 24% of today's total pipeline. This is up slightly from year-ends total of 20%.

Speaker #4: Additional payoffs during the quarter included an office building, several small retail centers, an industrial warehouse, a skilled nursing facility, and several commercial land loans.

Speaker #4: Our loan pipeline today totals approximately $1.3 billion, down from a mid-quarter peak of about $2 billion. Despite the reduction, our one but not closed category remains healthy at just over $331,000,000.

Keith Donahoe: Despite the reduction, our one but not closed category remains healthy at just over $331 million. The pipeline remains well balanced with approximately 44% term loans and 56% construction and/or commercial lines of credit. This is relatively unchanged from the Q4 mix. C&I related opportunities represent approximately 24% of today's total pipeline. This is up slightly from year-ends total of 20%.

Speaker #4: The pipeline remains well-balanced with approximately 44% term loans and 56% construction and/or commercial lines of credit. This is relatively unchanged from the fourth quarter mix.

Speaker #4: CNI-related opportunities represent approximately 24% of today's total pipeline; this is up slightly from 20%. During the quarter, we migrated four multifamily loans and one office loan to substandard.

Keith Donahoe: During the quarter, we migrated 4 multifamily loans and 1 office loan to substandard. The 2 multifamily loans originated as construction loans and are currently experiencing slower lease-up and lower rents than originally underwritten. The remaining 2 multifamily projects originated as term loans and have experienced a decline in occupancy and reduced rental rates. All 4 credits are supported by experienced real estate borrowers, including equity partners providing financial support. Over the next 6 to 12 months, we expect successful resolutions either through open market sales or refinances. Despite the substandard increase, credit quality remains strong. During Q1, non-performing assets totaled $9.7 million, a decrease of $28.5 million from 25 December. The reduction was primarily related to the previously mentioned $27.5 million multifamily loan, which paid off in February.

Keith Donahoe: During the quarter, we migrated four multifamily loans and one office loan to substandard. The two multifamily loans originated as construction loans and are currently experiencing slower lease-up and lower rents than originally underwritten. The remaining two multifamily projects originated as term loans and have experienced a decline in occupancy and reduced rental rates. All four credits are supported by experienced real estate borrowers, including equity partners providing financial support.

Speaker #4: The two multifamily loans originated as construction loans and are currently experiencing slower lease-up and lower rents than originally underwritten. The remaining two multifamily projects originated as term loans and have experienced a decline in occupancy and reduced rental rates.

Speaker #4: All four credits are supported by experienced real estate borrowers, including equity partners providing financial support. Over the next six to twelve months, we expect successful resolutions either through open market sales or refinances.

Keith Donahoe: Over the next six to 12 months, we expect successful resolutions either through open market sales or refinances. Despite the substandard increase, credit quality remains strong. During Q1, non-performing assets totaled $9.7 million, a decrease of $28.5 million from 25 December. The reduction was primarily related to the previously mentioned $27.5 million multifamily loan, which paid off in February.

Speaker #4: Despite the substandard increase, credit quality remains strong. During the first quarter, non-performing assets totaled $9.7 million, a decrease of 28,500,000 from December '25. The reduction was primarily related to the previously mentioned $27,500,000 multifamily loan which paid off in February.

Speaker #4: As a percentage of total assets, non-performing assets remain low at 0.11%. Other first quarter activities included replacing our Woodlands loan production office with a full-service branch and a new branch in our fast-growing home market of Tyler.

Keith Donahoe: As a percentage of total assets, non-performing assets remain low at 0.11%. Other Q1 activities included replacing our Woodlands loan production office with a full-service branch and a new branch in our fast-growing home market of Tyler. Additionally, we are particularly excited to report the hiring of a 30-year wealth management veteran charged with building out our wealth management team and expanding our platform throughout the Dallas-Fort Worth market. When considering our net income, earnings per share, expanded footprint, and a key hire in our wealth management group, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow faster at a faster pace than the overall projected US growth rate. With that, I'll turn the call over to Julie.

Speaker #4: Additionally, we are particularly excited to report the hiring of a 30-year wealth management veteran, charged with building out our wealth management team, and expanding our platform throughout the Dallas-Woolworth market.

Speaker #4: When considering our net income, earnings per share, expanded footprint, and a key hire in our wealth management group, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow at a faster pace than the overall projected U.S.

Keith Donahoe: When considering our net income, earnings per share, expanded footprint, and a key hire in our wealth management group, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow faster at a faster pace than the overall projected US growth rate. With that, I'll turn the call over to Julie.

Speaker #4: growth rate. With that, I'll turn the call over to Julie.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. We're pleased to report a solid start to 2026. For the first quarter, we reported net income of $23.3 million, an increase of $2.3 million, or 10.8%.

Julie Shamburger: Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our Q1 earnings call. We're pleased to report a solid start to 2026. For Q1, we reported net income of $23.3 million, an increase of $2.3 million or 10.8%. Diluted earnings per share were $0.78 for Q1, an increase of $0.08 per share linked quarter or 11.4%. As of 31 March, loans were $4.95 billion, a linked quarter increase of $128.2 million or 2.7%.

Speaker #2: Diluted earnings per share were $78 cents for the first quarter, an increase of 8 cents per share linked quarter, or 11.4%. As of March 31st, loans were $4.95 billion, a linked quarter increase of $128.2 million, or 2.7%.

Speaker #2: The linked quarter increase was driven by increases of 93.2 million in construction loans, 40.6 million in commercial real estate loans, and 12.2 million in the commercial portfolio partially offset by decreases of 9.6 million in municipal loans, and 7.1 million in one-to-four family residential loans.

Julie Shamburger: The linked quarter increase was driven by increases of $93.2 million in construction loans, $40.6 million in commercial real estate loans, and $12.2 million in the commercial portfolio, partially offset by decreases of $9.6 million in municipal loans and $7.1 million in one to four-family residential loans. The average rate of loans funded during Q1 was approximately 6.3%. As of 31 March, our loans with oil and gas industries were $72.1 million or 1.5% of total loans, a slight increase compared to $71 million linked quarter.

Speaker #2: The average rate of loans funded during the first quarter was approximately 6.3%. As of March 31st, our loans with oil and gas industry exposure were 72.1 million, or 1.5% of total loans.

Speaker #2: A slight increase compared to $71 million in the linked quarter. Non-performing assets decreased to 0.11% of total assets at quarter end, a result of the payoff of the $27.5 million commercial real estate loan restructured in the first quarter of 2025.

Julie Shamburger: Non-performing assets decreased to 0.11% of total assets at quarter end, a result of the payoff of the $27.5 million commercial real estate loan restructured in Q1 2025, and to a lesser extent, a decrease in our non-accrual loans. Our allowance for credit losses increased to $49.6 million for the linked quarter from $48.3 million on 31 December. Linked quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans decreased 1 basis point to 0.93 at 31 March. The securities portfolio increased $164.3 million or 6.1% to $2.87 billion on 31 March when compared to $2.7 billion at year-end. The increase was driven by purchases of $313.5 million in mortgage-backed securities during Q1.

Speaker #2: And to a lesser extent, a decrease in our non-accrual loans. Our allowance for credit losses increased to 49.6 million for the linked quarter, from 48.3 million on December 31st.

Speaker #2: Linked quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans decreased one basis point to 0.93% at March 31st. The securities portfolio increased $164.3 million, or 6.1%, to $2.87 billion on March 31st.

Julie Shamburger: Linked quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans decreased 1 basis point to 0.93 at 31 March. The securities portfolio increased $164.3 million or 6.1% to $2.87 billion on 31 March when compared to $2.7 billion at year-end. The increase was driven by purchases of $313.5 million in mortgage-backed securities during Q1.

Speaker #2: When compared to $2.7 billion at year-end, the increase was driven by purchases of $313.5 million in mortgage-backed securities during the first quarter. As of March 31st, we had a net unrealized loss in the AFS securities portfolio of $16.3 million, an increase of $15.5 million compared to $767,000 last quarter.

Julie Shamburger: As of 31 March, we had a net unrealized loss in the AFS securities portfolio of $16.3 million, an increase of fifteen and a half million compared to $767,000 last Q. There were no transfers of AFS securities during Q1. On 31 March, the unrealized gain on the fair value hedges on municipal and mortgage-backed securities was approximately $1.95 million, compared to $788,000 linked Q. As of 31 March, the duration of the total securities portfolio was 7.4 years compared to 7.6 at 31 December, and the duration on the AFS portfolio was 4.7, compared to 4.8 years on 31 December.

Speaker #2: There were no transfers of AFS securities during the first quarter. On March 31st, the unrealized gain on the fair value hedges on municipal and mortgage-backed securities was approximately $1.95 million, compared to $788,000 linked quarter.

Speaker #2: As of March 31, the duration of the total securities portfolio was 7.4 years, compared to 7.6 at December 31, and the duration on the AFS portfolio was 4.7, compared to 4.8 years on December 31.

Speaker #2: At quarter-end, our mix of loans and securities was $63% and $37% respectively, a slight shift compared to $64% and $36% respectively, at year-end. Deposits increased slightly by 9.3 million or 0.1% on a linked quarter basis.

Julie Shamburger: At quarter end, our mix of loans and securities was 63% and 37% respectively, a slight shift compared to 64% and 36% respectively at year-end. Deposits increased slightly by $9.3 million or 0.1% on a linked quarter basis. Broker deposits increased $110.7 million, however, partially offset by a decrease of $82 million in retail deposits and $19.4 million in public fund deposits. We redeemed our $93 million of subordinated notes due in 2030 during February, and at the time of the redemption, the notes had an interest rate of 7.51%, and we recorded a loss of $791,000 on the redemption of the notes. We expect to see further savings in our funding costs during Q2 as a result of the redemption.

Speaker #2: Broker deposits increased $110.7 million; however, this was partially offset by a decrease of $82 million in retail deposits and $19.4 million in public fund deposits. We redeemed our $93 million of subordinated notes due in 2030 during February, and at the time of the redemption, the notes had an interest rate of 7.51%. We recorded a loss of $791,000 on the redemption of the notes.

Julie Shamburger: We redeemed our $93 million of subordinated notes due in 2030 during February, and at the time of the redemption, the notes had an interest rate of 7.51%, and we recorded a loss of $791,000 on the redemption of the notes. We expect to see further savings in our funding costs during Q2 as a result of the redemption.

Speaker #2: We expect to see further savings in our funding costs during the second quarter as a result of the redemption. Our capital ratios remain strong, with all capital ratios well above the threshold for well-capitalized.

Julie Shamburger: Our capital ratios remain strong with all capital ratios well above the threshold for well-capitalized. Liquidity resources remain solid with $2.68 billion in liquidity lines available as of 31 March. We did not repurchase any common stock during Q1, and we have approximately 762,000 shares remaining that are authorized for repurchase. Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 3.01, an increase of 3 basis points on a linked-quarter basis, up from 2.98 for Q4 2025. Our tax equivalent net interest spread for the same period was 2.38, an increase of 7 basis points from 2.31. The increase in the net interest margin and the interest spread is primarily due to lower funding costs.

Speaker #2: Liquidity resources remain solid, with 2.68 billion in liquidity lines available as of March 31st. We do not repurchase any common stock during the first quarter, and we have approximately 762,000 shares remaining that are authorized for repurchase.

Speaker #2: Our tax-equivalent net interest margin was 3.01%, an increase of 3 basis points on a linked-quarter basis, up from 2.98% for the fourth quarter of 2025.

Julie Shamburger: Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 3.01, an increase of 3 basis points on a linked-quarter basis, up from 2.98 for Q4 2025. Our tax equivalent net interest spread for the same period was 2.38, an increase of 7 basis points from 2.31. The increase in the net interest margin and the interest spread is primarily due to lower funding costs.

Speaker #2: Our tax equivalent net interest spread for the same period was 238, an increase of 7 basis points from 231. The increase in the net interest margin and net interest spread is primarily due to lower funding costs.

Speaker #2: And for the three months ending March 31st, we had an increase in net interest income of $441,000, or 0.8%, compared to the linked quarter.

Julie Shamburger: For the 3 months ended March 31st, we had an increase in net interest income of $441,000 or 0.8% compared to the linked quarter. Non-interest income, excluding the net loss on sale of AFS securities, decreased $303,000 or 2.3% for the linked quarter due to a decrease in deposit services income, and a decrease in brokerage income, partially offset by an increase in other non-interest income. Other non-interest income increased primarily due to an increase in swap fee income. Non-interest expense was $40.6 million for Q1, an increase of $3.1 million or 8.3% compared to the linked quarter. The increase was largely driven by an increase in salaries and employee benefits, loss on the redemption of sub-debt, software and data processing, and other non-interest expense.

Speaker #2: Non-interest income excluding the net loss on sale of AFS securities decreased 303,000, or 2.3%, for the linked quarter, due to a decrease in deposit services income, and a decrease in BOLI income.

Speaker #2: Partially offset by an increase in other non-interest income. Other non-interest income increased primarily due to an increase in swap fee income. Non-interest expense was 40.6 million for the first quarter, an increase of 3.1 million, or 8.3%, compared to the linked quarter.

Julie Shamburger: Other non-interest income increased primarily due to an increase in swap fee income. Non-interest expense was $40.6 million for Q1, an increase of $3.1 million or 8.3% compared to the linked quarter. The increase was largely driven by an increase in salaries and employee benefits, loss on the redemption of sub-debt, software and data processing, and other non-interest expense.

Speaker #2: The increase was largely driven by an increase in salaries and employee benefits, loss on the redemption of subdebt, software and data processing, and other non-interest expense.

Speaker #2: Salary and employee benefits increased due to normal salary and employment tax increases at the beginning of the new year. There was also additional stock compensation and a one-time retirement expense related to a new split-dollar agreement of approximately $420,000.

Julie Shamburger: Salary and employee benefits increased due to normal salary and employment tax increases at the beginning of the new year, additional stock compensation, and a one-time retirement expense related to a new split-dollar agreement of approximately $420,000. Other non-interest expense increased primarily due to an increase in non-service costs of retirement expense and a non-recurring credit received in the Q4. I mentioned during the last call that our budget indicated an increase of approximately 7%. Absent the loss on redemption and the one-time retirement expense of $420,000, the linked quarter increase would have been a little over 5%. Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratio increased to 54.98% as of 31 March from 52.28% as of 31 December, primarily due to the increase in non-interest expense.

Speaker #2: Other non-interest expense increased primarily due to an increase in non-service costs of retirement expense, and a non-recurring credit received in the fourth quarter. I mentioned during the last call that our budget indicated an increase of approximately 7%.

Julie Shamburger: I mentioned during the last call that our budget indicated an increase of approximately 7%. Absent the loss on redemption and the one-time retirement expense of $420,000, the linked quarter increase would have been a little over 5%. Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratio increased to 54.98% as of 31 March from 52.28% as of 31 December, primarily due to the increase in non-interest expense.

Speaker #2: Absent the loss on redemption and the one-time retirement expense of $420,000, the linked-quarter increase would have been a little over 5%. Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratios increased to 54.98% as of March 31.

Speaker #2: From 52.28% as of December 31st, primarily due to the increase in non-interest expense. For the second quarter of 2026, we anticipate non-interest expense of approximately $40.5 million for the remaining quarters.

Julie Shamburger: For Q2 2026, we anticipate non-interest expense of approximately $40.5 million for the remaining quarters. We recorded income tax expense of $5 million compared to $3.8 million in the prior quarter, an increase of $1.25 million. Our effective tax rate was 17.8% for Q1, an increase compared to 15.3% last quarter, and we are currently estimating an annual effective tax rate of 17.8% for 2026. At this time, I will return, turn the call over to Sunnie. Thank you.

Speaker #2: We recorded income tax expense of $5.0 million, compared to $3.8 million in the prior quarter, an increase of $1.2 million. Our expected tax rate was 17.8% for the first quarter, an increase compared to 15.3% last quarter.

Speaker #2: And we are currently estimating an annual effective tax rate of 17.8% for 2026. At this time, I will return the call over to Sunny.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Julie. The MBS purchases in the first quarter have coupons ranging from 4.5 to 5.5 percent. A duration of seven years and yield of 5.24%.

Sunnie Davis: Thank you, Julie. The MBS purchases in Q1 have coupons ranging from 4.5% to 5.5%, a duration of 7 years, and yield of 5.24%. Approximately one-third of the purchases occurred late in the quarter and were essentially prepurchases of April and May cash flows due to an opportunity in the market. These were purchased at discounts, which will act as a hedge to the earlier purchases should prepay speeds increase. This one-third, or approximately $106.6 million at a rate of 5.44%, was not reflected in the yield of the securities portfolio in Q1. We expect to reinvest future cash flows from the securities portfolio into AFS MBS and maintain the balance of securities at approximately $2.7 to 2.8 billion.

Speaker #3: Approximately one-third of the purchases occurred late in the quarter, and were essentially pre-purchases of April and May cash flows due to an opportunity in the market.

Speaker #3: These were purchased at discounts, which will act as a hedge to the earlier purchases. Should prepay speeds increase? This one-third, or approximately $106.6 million at a rate of 5.44, was not reflected in the yield of the securities portfolio in the first quarter.

Sunnie Davis: This one-third, or approximately $106.6 million at a rate of 5.44%, was not reflected in the yield of the securities portfolio in Q1. We expect to reinvest future cash flows from the securities portfolio into AFS MBS and maintain the balance of securities at approximately $2.7 to 2.8 billion.

Speaker #3: We expect to reinvest future cash flows from the securities portfolio into AFS MBS and maintain the balance of securities at approximately $2.7 to $2.8 billion.

Speaker #3: If presented with an opportunity similar to the one in March, we may pre-purchase again. The principal cash flows we received during the quarter were $127 million, or an average of $42.3 million per month, which includes $20 million from the maturity of two MBS balloons held in HTM.

Sunnie Davis: If presented with an opportunity similar to the one in March, we may repurchase again. The principal cash flows we received during the quarter were $127 million or an average of $42.3 million per month, which includes $20 million from the maturity of two MBS balloons held in HTM. I anticipate a pickup in prepays in Q2 due to a higher MBS balance, lower mortgage rates through early March, and lower spreads. The spot rate on our CDs was 3.74% at quarter end compared to the average rate of 3.79% for Q1. CDs totaling $568 million with an average rate of 3.83% will reprice this quarter. We expect to retain most of these deposits and estimate an interest savings of roughly 10 basis points.

Speaker #3: I anticipate a pickup in prepays in the second quarter due to a higher MBS balance, lower mortgage rates through early March, and lower spreads.

Speaker #3: The spot rate on our CDs was 3.74% at quarter-end, compared to the average rate of 3.79% for the first quarter. CDs totaling $568 million, with an average rate of 3.83%, will reprice this quarter.

Sunnie Davis: The spot rate on our CDs was 3.74% at quarter end compared to the average rate of 3.79% for Q1. CDs totaling $568 million with an average rate of 3.83% will reprice this quarter. We expect to retain most of these deposits and estimate an interest savings of roughly 10 basis points. Additionally, $1.06 billion with an average rate of 3.79% will reprice by year-end. As Julie mentioned in her comments, our public funds decreased.

Speaker #3: We expect to retain most of these deposits and estimate an interest savings of roughly 10 basis points. Additionally, $1.06 billion, with an average rate of 3.79%, will reprice by year-end.

Sunnie Davis: Additionally, $1.06 billion with an average rate of 3.79% will reprice by year-end. As Julie mentioned in her comments, our public funds decreased. There was some seasonality to this decrease. In Texas, various public fund entities collect ad valorem taxes in Q4 through January of the following year, then disperse some of those funds prior to the end of the Q1. There were also construction draws from bond funds we hold for a couple of public fund entities, as well as February debt service payment. I expect public funds in Q2 to increase from the 31 March balance. Many of our public fund non-maturity accounts have floating rates that adjust as frequently as weekly.

Speaker #3: As Julie mentioned in her comments, our public funds decreased. There was some seasonality to this decrease. In Texas, various public fund entities collect ad valorem taxes in the fourth quarter through January of the following year then disperse some of those funds prior to the end of the first quarter.

Sunnie Davis: There was some seasonality to this decrease. In Texas, various public fund entities collect ad valorem taxes in Q4 through January of the following year, then disperse some of those funds prior to the end of the Q1. There were also construction draws from bond funds we hold for a couple of public fund entities, as well as February debt service payment. I expect public funds in Q2 to increase from the 31 March balance. Many of our public fund non-maturity accounts have floating rates that adjust as frequently as weekly.

Speaker #3: There were also construction draws from bond funds we hold for a couple of public fund entities, as well as February debt service payments. I expect public funds in the second quarter to increase from the March 31 balance.

Speaker #3: Many of our public fund non-maturity accounts have floating rates that adjust as frequently as weekly. We have certain—excuse me—we have certain non-maturity deposit accounts with exception pricing, and the last adjustment made to the exception-priced accounts was December 11th of '25, following the FOMC's 25 basis point Fed funds reduction on December 10th.

Sunnie Davis: We have certain, excuse me, we have certain non-maturity deposit accounts with exception pricing, and the last adjustment made to the exception priced accounts was 11 December 2025, following the FOMC's 25 basis point Fed funds reduction on 10 December. The beta was 69% on the exception priced accounts, the beta on all non-interest-bearing non-maturity deposit accounts, net of brokered and public funds, was approximately 25%. I estimate using the same beta if there is a short-term rate cut in 2026. We have seen a higher cost on recently acquired deposit accounts versus existing account balances. In Q1, new deposit accounts, excluding brokered and public funds, had an average rate of 2.37% versus existing accounts averaging 1.58%.

Speaker #3: The beta was 69% on the exception-priced accounts, and the beta on all non-interest-bearing, non-maturity deposit accounts net of brokered and public funds was approximately 25%.

Speaker #3: I estimate using the same beta if there is a short-term rate cut in 2026. We have seen a higher cost on recently acquired deposit accounts versus existing account balances.

Sunnie Davis: I estimate using the same beta if there is a short-term rate cut in 2026. We have seen a higher cost on recently acquired deposit accounts versus existing account balances. In Q1, new deposit accounts, excluding brokered and public funds, had an average rate of 2.37% versus existing accounts averaging 1.58%.

Speaker #3: In the first quarter, new deposit accounts, excluding brokered and public funds, had an average rate of 2.37%, versus existing accounts averaging 1.58%.

Speaker #3: However, the rate on the new accounts in March showed a downward trend to 2.06%. Reciprocal deposits were $363 million at quarter-end, a decrease of $13.9 million linked quarter.

Sunnie Davis: However, the rate on the new accounts in March showed a downward trend to 2.06%. Reciprocal deposits were $363 million at quarter end, a decrease of $13.9 million linked quarter, primarily due to a reduction in 1 relationship. Many of these accounts are included in the exception pricing. 84% of reciprocal deposits are commercial and 16% are consumer. Our wholesale funding increased $370.5 million linked quarter to $1.4 billion, due primarily to funds, the $128.2 million increase in loans, and the $164.3 million increase in securities.

Speaker #3: Primarily due to a reduction in one relationship. Many of these accounts are included in the exception pricing. Eighty-four percent of reciprocal deposits are commercial and sixteen percent are consumer.

Speaker #3: Our wholesale funding increased $370.5 million linked quarter to $1.4 billion, due primarily to fund the $128.2 million increase in loans and the $164.3 million increase in securities.

Speaker #3: The increase in wholesale funding includes increases in FHLB advances of $104.8 million, $110.7 million in brokered deposits, and $155 million in Fed discount window borrowings.

Sunnie Davis: The increase in wholesale funding includes increases in FHLB advances of $104.8 million, $110.7 million in brokered deposits, and $155 million in Fed discount window borrowings. We utilize a mix of wholesale funding sources and navigate between them based on rate and term offered and the current ALCO strategy. We have increased the collateral at the discount window and will continue to utilize this source of short-term funding due to rate and prepayability. During Q1, $245 million of cash flow swaps at a rate of 2.7% matured. It was, however, necessary to retain the funding, and the rate on the new borrowings is approximately 3.75%.

Speaker #3: We utilize a mix of wholesale funding sources and navigate between them based on rate and term offered and the current ALCO strategy. We have increased our collateral at the discount window and will continue to utilize this source of short-term funding due to rate and prepay ability.

Sunnie Davis: We have increased the collateral at the discount window and will continue to utilize this source of short-term funding due to rate and prepayability. During Q1, $245 million of cash flow swaps at a rate of 2.7% matured. It was, however, necessary to retain the funding, and the rate on the new borrowings is approximately 3.75%.

Speaker #3: During the first quarter, $245 million of cash flow swaps at a rate of 2.7% matured. It was, however, necessary to retain the funding, and the rate on the new borrowings is approximately 3.75%.

Speaker #3: We have another $25 million in cash flow swaps maturing in November at a current rate of 4.62%. After this maturity, and once some amortization related to past unwinds is fully expensed in October, the rate on our cash flow swaps will drop to approximately 3.53%, assuming SOFR is unchanged.

Sunnie Davis: We have another $25 million in cash flow swaps maturing in November at a current rate of 4.62. After this maturity and some amortization related to past unwinds is fully expensed in October, the rate on our cash flow swaps will drop to approximately 3.53%, assuming SOFR is unchanged. We unwound $155 million in municipal loan swaps during the quarter, creating a small gain that will be accreted over the life of the previously hedged items. This slightly improves our interest rate risk position in rates down scenarios. We no longer have any municipal loan swaps. We have a notional of $258.1 million in fair value hedges on municipal and MBS securities.

Speaker #3: We unwound $155,000,000 in municipal loan swaps during the quarter. Creating a small gain that will be accreted over the life of the previously hedged items.

Sunnie Davis: We unwound $155 million in municipal loan swaps during the quarter, creating a small gain that will be accreted over the life of the previously hedged items. This slightly improves our interest rate risk position in rates down scenarios. We no longer have any municipal loan swaps. We have a notional of $258.1 million in fair value hedges on municipal and MBS securities.

Speaker #3: This slightly improves our interest rate risk position in rates down scenarios. We no longer have any municipal loan swaps. We have a notional of $258.1 million in fair value hedges on municipal and MBS securities.

Speaker #3: Approximately 38% of our loans have fixed rates and 62% have a floating rate, and approximately 81% of the floating rate loans have floors. We have $344.2 million in fixed rate loans that mature or reprice in the next 12 months.

Sunnie Davis: Approximately 38% of our loans have fixed rates and 62% have a floating rate. Approximately 81% of the floating rate loans have floors. We have $344.2 million in fixed rate loans that mature or reprice in the next 12 months. Approximately $209 million of these loans have rates at or below 4%. Approximately $44 million of the loans with rates at or below 4% reprice or mature in Q2. We estimate a lift in the NIM as these loans reprice throughout 2026 and during Q1 2027. Our budget included 2 short-term rate cuts of 25 basis points, 1 in June and another in September. Should rates remain at quarter end levels through year-end, we expect a positive impact on the NIM versus budget as we are asset sensitive.

Speaker #3: Approximately $209 million of these loans have rates at or below 4%. Approximately $44 million of the loans with rates at or below 4% reprice or mature in the second quarter.

Speaker #3: We estimate a lift in the NIM as these loans reprice throughout '26 and during the first quarter of '27. Our budget included two short-term rate cuts of 25 basis points.

Sunnie Davis: We estimate a lift in the NIM as these loans reprice throughout 2026 and during Q1 2027. Our budget included 2 short-term rate cuts of 25 basis points, 1 in June and another in September. Should rates remain at quarter end levels through year-end, we expect a positive impact on the NIM versus budget as we are asset sensitive. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our comments, and we will now open the line for your questions.

Speaker #3: One in June and another in September. Should rates remain at quarter-end levels through year-end, we expect a positive impact on the NIM versus budget, as we are asset sensitive.

Speaker #3: Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our comments, and we will now open the line for your questions.

Sunnie Davis: Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our comments, and we will now open the line for your questions.

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Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, everyone.

Brett Rabatin: Hey, good morning, everyone.

Sunnie Davis: Morning.

Speaker #5: Good morning.

Brett Rabatin: I wanted to start on just the loan growth outlook and the mid-single-digit guide and, you know, solid production in the quarter, lower payoffs. Ada, Q1, I think I heard the number of $113 million for payoffs, that number is expected to go higher. Can you maybe give us any color around what you're expecting for payoffs in Q2 or Q3? Just, you know, the production pace, if you expect that to continue at the current level or what it was during Q1.

Speaker #4: I wanted to start on I wanted to start on just the loan growth outlook in the mid-single-digit guide. And solid production in the quarter, lower payoffs.

Speaker #4: Aided the first quarter, I think I heard the number of $113 million for payoff, but that number is expected to go higher. Can you maybe give us any color around what you're expecting for payoffs in Q2 or Q3?

Speaker #4: And then just the production pace, if you expect that to continue at the current level or what it was during one Q.

Speaker #5: Yeah, I'll start with the production side. I do anticipate us to continue to produce new loans at a similar rate. We've talked about it internally, that we're seeing good activity.

Keith Donahoe: I'll start with the production side. I do anticipate us to continue to produce new loans at a similar rate. We've talked about it internally that we're seeing good activity. The pipeline's down a little bit, but I think that has way more to do with the loan officers were hunkered down closing new transactions in Q1, and so they're coming up for air, and they're gonna rebuild that pipeline. We were fortunate we didn't see as many payoffs in Q1. We do know we've got a number of real estate assets that are individually rather large that are going through their normal cycle.

Speaker #5: The pipeline's down a little bit, but I think that has way more to do with the loan officers who were hunkered down, closing new transactions in the first quarter, and so they're coming up for air and they're going to rebuild that pipeline.

Speaker #5: We were fortunate. We didn't see as many payoffs in the first quarter, but we do know we've got a number of real estate assets that are individually rather large that are going through their normal cycle.

Keith Donahoe: You know, we were predominantly a construction lender for a long time. Those have a technically a finite life that they build and lease up and then move into either a sale or open market, a lease enhanced with other lenders on a permanent basis. We know we've got some of that coming. I'm hedging our bet a little bit that it's too early to call a change in our loan growth at this point because we do know we have a number of projects that are teeing up to get refinanced or sold.

Speaker #5: We were predominantly a construction lender for a long time, and so those have, technically, a finite life—they build and lease up and then move into either a sale or open market at refinance with other lenders on a permanent basis.

Speaker #5: So we know we've got some of that coming. And so I'm hedging our bet a little bit that it's too early to call a change in our loan growth at this point because we do know we have a number of projects that are teeing up to get refinanced or sold.

Speaker #4: Okay, that's helpful. And then maybe, Julie, on the funding costs—the money market decreases have kind of slowed, but the CD portfolio might still be an opportunity.

Brett Rabatin: Okay. That's helpful. Then maybe Julie, on the funding costs, you know, the money market decreases have kind of slowed. The CD portfolio might still be an opportunity, but I think you mentioned the 2.37 for new accounts in the quarter. I don't know if that includes CDs, but, you know, just any thoughts on the ability to further lower funding costs from here if rates don't move? Then I heard you mention the margin will be up. There's a lot of moving parts in that. Was just hoping if you could give us a little more color on the magnitude that you're expecting for Q2 or Q3.

Speaker #4: But I think you mentioned that 237 for new accounts in the quarter. I don't know if that includes CDs, but just any thoughts on the ability to further lower funding costs from here if rates don't move?

Speaker #4: And then I heard you mention the margin will be up. There's a lot of moving parts in that. Was just hoping if you could give us a little more color around the magnitude that you're expecting for Q2 or Q3.

Speaker #1: Sure. This is Sunny. So yes, the 237 did include CDs. And we do feel like we can save some interest expense on these CDs, maybe 10 basis points.

Julie Shamburger: Sure. This is Sunnie. Yes, the 237 did include CDs. And we do feel like we can save some interest expense on these CDs, maybe 10 basis points and that may be conservative. During Q1, we had some local competition pretty heavily for CDs, short-term CDs, paying well over 4%, and that has ended. We did see some exit of deposits related to that, but it's over and hope at least 10 basis points, maybe more. You know, we picked up, what, 20 or 21 linked quarter. And we've also looked at some exception pricing. We've made a few adjustments there, even though Fed has held rates steady. I mean, those are minor.

Sunnie Davis: Sure. This is Sunnie. Yes, the 237 did include CDs. And we do feel like we can save some interest expense on these CDs, maybe 10 basis points and that may be conservative. During Q1, we had some local competition pretty heavily for CDs, short-term CDs, paying well over 4%, and that has ended.

Speaker #1: And that may be conservative during Q1. We had some local competition pretty heavily. For CDs, short-term CDs, paying well over 4%. And that has ended.

Speaker #1: So we did see some exit of deposits related to that. But it's over. And so yeah, at least 10 basis points, maybe more. We picked up, what, 20 or 21 linked quarter.

Sunnie Davis: We did see some exit of deposits related to that, but it's over and hope at least 10 basis points, maybe more. You know, we picked up, what, 20 or 21 linked quarter. And we've also looked at some exception pricing. We've made a few adjustments there, even though Fed has held rates steady. I mean, those are minor.

Speaker #1: So, and we've also looked at some exception pricing. We've made a few adjustments there, even though the Fed has held rates steady. But, I mean, those are minor.

Speaker #4: Okay, great. Appreciate all the color.

Brett Rabatin: Okay. Great. Appreciate all the color.

Sunnie Davis: Sure.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Steven Scouten with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Stephen Scouten with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. I guess, maybe sticking on that NIM conversation, can you quantify what the expected benefit is into the second quarter on the basis point level from the sub debt?

Stephen Scouten: Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. I guess maybe sticking on that NIM conversation, can you quantify what the expected benefit is in Q2 on a basis point level from the sub-debt, and then kind of what you think you could see from just asset repricing and the CD benefits?

Speaker #5: And then, kind of what you think you could see from just asset repricing? And the CD benefits.

Julie Shamburger: Let's see. On the sub-debt for Q1, it was 7.41%. Expect to see, I mean, obviously the balance is gonna be much smaller. Well, it's gonna be about $147 million for the average in Q2, and it'll be just over 7% with the amortization of the discount. Haven't calculated what I expect that to be, but that 7.41% that you see for Q1 is gonna come down into the low 7s on about roughly a $147 million balance.

Speaker #1: So, let's see. On the sub debt for the three-month quarter, it was $741. So expect to see—I mean, obviously, the balance is going to be much smaller for the—well, it's going to be about $147 million for the average in the second quarter.

Speaker #1: And it'll be just over 7% with the amortization of the discount. So, I haven't calculated what I expect that to be, but that $741,000 that you see for the first quarter is going to come down into the low 7s on about roughly $147 million balance.

Speaker #4: Okay. That's really helpful. Thank you. And then just maybe on the expense front, I think you said was it 40 and a half million kind of per quarter, which probably I haven't done the math yet.

Stephen Scouten: Okay. That's really helpful. Thank you. Then just maybe on the expense front, I think you said it was at $40.5 million per quarter, which probably, haven't done the math yet, still keeps you in that 7% range, I imagine. Would you expect that that would allow you to deliver year-over-year operating leverage at this point in time? Is that kind of the minimum goal for you all as you think about the progress for the year?

Speaker #4: That still keeps you in that 7% range, I imagine. Would you expect that would allow you to deliver year-over-year operating leverage at this point in time?

Speaker #4: And is that kind of, I guess, the minimum goal for you all as you think about the progress for the year?

Julie Shamburger: Yes. I mean, I believe that we're gonna be at the 7%, hopefully under. I don't expect us to go over that 7%. It was just a couple of these larger items were kind of front-loaded into Q1 by the nature of the timing of the event. The 40.5 may be a little heavy for Q2. I think on average, that's probably where we're gonna end up. I'm still at this point expecting the 7% annually. Does that help?

Speaker #1: I yes. I mean, I believe that we're going to be at the 7%. Hopefully, under. But I don't think I don't expect us to go over that 7%.

Speaker #1: It was just a couple of these larger items were kind of front-loaded into the first quarter. By the nature of the timing of the events, so the 40.5 may be a little heavy for second quarter.

Speaker #1: But I think on average, that's probably where we're going to end up. And I'm still at this point expecting the 7% annually. Does that help?

Stephen Scouten: Yeah. I guess, like, from a, from an operating leverage perspective, just as we think about maybe the efficiency ratio and how that all comes together, I mean, would you expect that on a year-over-year basis, the decline for the full year of 2026?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I mean, I guess from an operating leverage perspective, just as we think about maybe the efficiency ratio and how that all comes together, I mean, would you expect that on a year-over-year basis to decline for the full year of ’26?

Speaker #1: I expect some improvement in the efficiency ratio in the second quarter, for sure. The $791,000 was excluded in the calculation of the efficiency ratio, as we've always excluded a one-time loss on a redemption.

Julie Shamburger: I expect some improvement in the efficiency ratio in Q2 for sure. The $791 was excluded in the calculation of the efficiency ratio, as we've always excluded a one-time loss on a redemption. For example, the $420 that I mentioned was not excluded. Appropriately not. That will not occur again in Q2, Q3, and Q4. I expect an improvement in the efficiency ratio for Q2.

Speaker #1: But for example, the 420 that I mentioned was not excluded. Appropriately, not. And so that will not occur again in the second, third, and fourth quarter.

Speaker #1: And so I expect an improvement in the efficiency ratio for the second quarter.

Speaker #4: Okay, thanks for the color, guys. Appreciate it.

Stephen Scouten: Okay.

Stephen Scouten: Thanks for the color, guys. Appreciate it.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Michael Rose with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Michael Rose with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Just going to the capital standpoint, ratio is still really good. I noticed you guys didn't buy back any stock in the quarter.

Michael Rose: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Just going to the capital standpoint, you know, ratio's still really good. Noticed you guys didn't buy back any stock in the quarter. I assume some of that was related to, you know, maybe just the redemption of the sub-debt and some of the other actions in terms of buying securities, things like that. Any sort of outlook for what we might wanna expect for repurchases as we move forward? Thanks.

Speaker #5: I assume some of that was related to maybe just the redemption of the sub debt and some of the other actions in terms of buying securities, things like that.

Speaker #5: But any sort of outlook for what we might want to expect for repurchases as we move forward? Thanks.

Keith Donahoe: Yeah, we'll continue to be opportunistic in that regard. You know, our stock is doing pretty well right now. Historically, when we've gone in and repurchased shares, it's usually when we're seeing a little bit of some downward pressure. You know, from a capital deployment standpoint, you know, we are, you know, there's kind of a close first and second opportunity. You know, M&A is definitely part of our strategy. Stock buyback is there as a close second. We're also organically growing, we're being judicious and we'll continue to deploy capital where we think we're gonna get the fairest return.

Speaker #6: Yeah, we'll continue to be opportunistic in that regard. Our stock is doing pretty well right now, so historically, when we've gone in and repurchased shares, it's usually when we're seeing a little bit of some downward pressure.

Speaker #6: But from a capital deployment standpoint, there's kind of a close first and second opportunity. M&A is definitely part of our strategy. Stock buyback is there as a close second.

Speaker #6: But we're also organically growing and so we're being judicious and we'll continue to deploy capital. Where we think we're going to get the fairest return.

Speaker #5: All right. Helpful. Maybe just switching gears to fees. Nice step up this quarter. Still some good momentum in the trust business, which I know you guys have invested in.

Michael Rose: All right. Helpful. Maybe just switching gears to fees. You know, nice step up this quarter. You know, still some good momentum in the trust business, which I know you guys have invested in. Just wondering to see if there's any kind of updated expectations from, you know, kind of last quarter, and then if there was anything in the other expense line, because that was up, you know, both year-over-year and sequentially. Thanks.

Speaker #5: And just wanted to see if there's any kind of updated expectations from kind of last quarter and then if there was anything in the other expense line because that was up both year-over-year and sequentially.

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #6: Yeah, on the trust fees, I'm really excited. I think we all are very excited that we were able to pick up an individual in the Fort Worth market that has a tremendous amount of experience and a network that I think we will benefit from.

Keith Donahoe: On the trust fees, you know, I'm really excited. I think we all are very excited that we were able to pick up an individual in the Fort Worth market that has a tremendous amount of experience and a network that I think we will benefit from. I can't guarantee we're gonna see that lift this year, but it wouldn't surprise me to get a little bit of a lift throughout the rest of the year. She's just getting her feet underneath her, but I'm really excited about it and look forward to strong growth in the Fort Worth market. I think we also picked up some fees from swap income that.

Speaker #6: I can't guarantee you we're going to see that lift this year, but it wouldn't surprise me to get a little bit of a lift.

Speaker #6: Throughout the rest of the year, she's just getting her feet underneath her, but I'm really excited about it and look forward to strong growth in the Fort Worth market.

Speaker #6: I think we also picked up some fees from swap income that yeah.

Julie Shamburger: We did. I mean, our trust fees and our brokerage services were both up slightly from Q4, but significantly over Q1 of 2025. You mentioned year over year. Those were both. We saw a really nice increase year over year in those two categories, as well as the swap fee income, as mentioned earlier, was up a good bit.

Speaker #1: I mean, our trust fees and our brokerage services were both up slightly from the fourth quarter, but significantly over the first quarter of 2025. You mentioned year-over-year.

Speaker #1: So, those were both—we saw a really nice increase year-over-year in those two categories, as well as the swap fee income, as mentioned earlier, was up a good bit.

Speaker #6: That's something that we that's intentional. We really made it an intentional approach to continue to generate swap income. Granted, that is somewhat market-driven. So but we every relationship manager is with the appropriate customer they are talking to them about swaps.

Keith Donahoe: That's something that's intentional. We've really made it an intentional approach to continue to generate swap income. You know, granted, that is somewhat market driven, so, but every relationship manager is, with the appropriate customer, they are talking to them about swaps. We are, as Sunnie mentioned, I think 38% is what our loan book is that's fixed on our balance sheet. That's a significant decline over the last 2 years. That was intentional because we wanted to get to a point that we could manage our NIM a little bit better. Granted, you're gonna have two sides of the equation working at the same time from a funding cost and from a lending perspective, but we're becoming more disciplined in that.

Speaker #6: We are as Sonny mentioned, I think 38% is what our loan book is that's fixed on our balance sheet. That's a significant decline over the last two years.

Keith Donahoe: That's a significant decline over the last 2 years. That was intentional because we wanted to get to a point that we could manage our NIM a little bit better. Granted, you're gonna have two sides of the equation working at the same time from a funding cost and from a lending perspective, but we're becoming more disciplined in that.

Speaker #6: And that was intentional because we wanted to get to a point that we could manage our NIM a little bit better granted, you're going to have two sides of the equation working at the same time from a funding cost and from a lending perspective.

Speaker #6: But we're becoming more disciplined in that.

Speaker #5: All right. Very helpful. Step back. Thanks for taking my questions.

Michael Rose: All right. Very helpful. I will step back. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Woody Lay with KBW. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Woody Ley with KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Hey, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start on credit, and it was great to see MPAs improved quarter-over-quarter with that restructured loan payoff. You did mention there were a couple of downgrades in the multifamily book.

Woody Ley: Hey, thanks for taking my questions. Wanted to start on credit, it was great to see NPAs improved quarter over quarter with that restructured loan paying off. You did mention there were a couple of downgrades in the multifamily book. Just given some of the moving pieces, was just curious on y'all's perspective on sort of the local multifamily market and how it's performing. Is it certain markets that are showing weakness? Is it individual projects? Would just love your thoughts there.

Speaker #7: So just given some of the moving pieces, it's just curious on y'all's perspective on sort of the local multifamily market and how it's performing and is it certain markets that are showing weakness?

Speaker #7: Is it individual projects? Would just love your thoughts there.

Speaker #6: Yeah. So it is to give you a little bit of color on that. So the four multifamily projects that we moved down or downgraded two are in the Houston market.

Keith Donahoe: Yeah, to give you a little bit of color on that, the four multifamily projects that we moved down or downgraded, two are in the Houston market, one's in the Dallas-Fort Worth market, and one is in the Austin market. I know we're not, we're not unique. Any Texas-based lender that's been doing multifamily construction and term loans have seen a weakness. I'm not concerned about these. To give you a little bit of color, they average about $33 million each. We've gotten new appraisals on three of the four assets, and we are sub 60% loan to value on those.

Speaker #6: One's in the Dallas-Fort Worth market and one is in the Austin market. So I don't think we are I know we're not. We're not unique.

Speaker #6: Any Texas-based lender that's been doing multifamily construction and term loans have seen a weakness. I'm not concerned about these. And to give you a little bit of color, they average about $33 million each.

Keith Donahoe: Any Texas-based lender that's been doing multifamily construction and term loans have seen a weakness. I'm not concerned about these. To give you a little bit of color, they average about $33 million each. We've gotten new appraisals on three of the four assets, and we are sub 60% loan to value on those.

Speaker #6: We've gotten new appraisals on three of the four assets, and we are sub-60% loan-to-value on those. The real issue is that across the state, in the metropolitan markets, there's been a ton of supply.

Keith Donahoe: The real issue is that there's across the state in the metropolitan markets, there's been a ton of supply. I know that's nothing new to everybody listening. We continue to see concessions offered from a rental rate standpoint. The good news is, in several of the markets, we do believe that the occupancy or really the vacancy has peaked. It's a matter of time for these assets to stabilize. We do expect one of these we expect will get refinanced by a debt fund sometime before the end of Q2. That's the plan. They actually have a written term sheet. We also anticipate one of our borrowers is running an auction, not an auction, but they're running a process right now to sell the asset.

Speaker #6: I know that's nothing new to everybody listening but we continue to see concessions offered from a rental rate standpoint. The good news is in several of the markets we do believe that the occupancy or really the vacancy has peaked.

Speaker #6: And so it's a matter of time for these assets to stabilize. We do expect one of these we expect will get refinanced by a debt fund sometime before the end of the second quarter.

Keith Donahoe: It's a matter of time for these assets to stabilize. We do expect one of these we expect will get refinanced by a debt fund sometime before the end of Q2. That's the plan. They actually have a written term sheet. We also anticipate one of our borrowers is running an auction, not an auction, but they're running a process right now to sell the asset.

Speaker #6: That's the plan. They actually have a written term sheet. We also anticipate one of our borrowers is posting—well, not an auction, but they're running a process right now to sell the asset.

Keith Donahoe: They also have started early enough that in the event they don't get a number they like, which we think they will, but if they don't, they'll still have the ability to go refinance it before the maturity. I mean, it's a combination of things, but predominantly it's just a supply issue. Demand is still there. Each project continues to lease up, you know, month to month. They're positive on lease up. It's just concessions are still in place. At three of these projects, if you just let the concessions burn, they are, you know, in a, in a more traditional 1 over 1, 110, 115 to 120 DSCRs. Hopefully that provides some color. Again, not overly concerned about these, especially given the borrowers and their equity partners.

Speaker #6: They also have started early enough that in the event they don't get a number they like, which we think they will, but if they don't, they'll still have the ability to go refinance it before the maturity.

Speaker #6: So it's a combination of things, but predominantly it's just a supply issue. Demand is still there each project continues to lease up. Quarter-to-month-to-month they're positive on lease up.

Keith Donahoe: They're positive on lease up. It's just concessions are still in place. At three of these projects, if you just let the concessions burn, they are, you know, in a, in a more traditional 1 over 1, 110, 115 to 120 DSCRs. Hopefully that provides some color. Again, not overly concerned about these, especially given the borrowers and their equity partners. These are folks that have been around the real estate world for a long time, and we've got long-term relationships with them.

Speaker #6: It's just concessions are still in place at three of these projects. If you just let the concessions burn off, they are in a more traditional one-over-one, 1.10, 1.15 to 1.20 DSCRs.

Speaker #6: So, hopefully that provides some color. Again, not overly concerned about these, especially given the borrowers and their equity partners. These are folks that have been around the real estate world for a long time, and we've got long-term relationships with them.

Keith Donahoe: These are folks that have been around the real estate world for a long time, and we've got long-term relationships with them.

Speaker #7: Yeah. No, that's really helpful. I appreciate you going into that. And I guess as you mentioned, the oversupply isn't necessarily a new issue. How has that impacted the loan pipeline and new multifamily projects?

Woody Ley: Yeah, no, that's really helpful. I appreciate you going into that. I guess, as you mentioned, you know, this, the oversupply isn't necessarily a new issue. How has that impacted the loan pipeline and new multifamily projects? Is there less these days? Or has underwriting shifted? Just curious on your thoughts.

Speaker #7: Is there less these days, or has the underwriting shifted? Just curious on your thoughts.

Speaker #6: Yeah. We haven't modified our underwriting standards, but what that has done is it's made it more difficult to originate new multifamily projects. I do anticipate that to change some, maybe towards the end of the year, but right now, the vast majority of the new opportunities we're seeing are coming in either the retail segment or the industrial warehouse segment.

Keith Donahoe: Yeah. You know, we haven't modified our underwriting standards, what that has done is it's made it more difficult to originate new multifamily projects. I do anticipate that to change some maybe towards the end of the year. Right now, the vast majority of the new opportunities we're seeing are coming in either the retail segment, the industrial warehouse segment. Those tend to be, there's a lot of opportunity there, and those underwrite easier in today's market. In particular, the retail across the state of Texas is incredibly strong, and that goes to a continued population in-migration of people and historically a relatively limited new retail development throughout the state.

Speaker #6: Those tend to be—there's a lot of opportunity there. And those underwrite easier in today's market. In particular, the retail across the state of Texas is incredibly strong.

Keith Donahoe: Those tend to be, there's a lot of opportunity there, and those underwrite easier in today's market. In particular, the retail across the state of Texas is incredibly strong, and that goes to a continued population in-migration of people and historically a relatively limited new retail development throughout the state.

Speaker #6: And that goes to a continued population in migration of people and historically a relatively limited new retail development throughout the state.

Speaker #7: Got it. All right. Well, I appreciate you taking my questions.

Woody Ley: Got it. All right. Well, I appreciate you taking my questions.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Keith Donahoe: Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from Matt Olney with Stevens. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Matt Olney with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Good morning. Most of my questions have been addressed. I want to go back to deposit growth. I think you mentioned some seasonal headwinds for deposit growth in the first quarter.

Matt Olney: Good morning. Most of my questions have been addressed. Want to go back to deposit growth. I think you mentioned some seasonal headwinds for deposit growth in Q1. What about remainder of the year? Do you expect the deposit growth to match the loan growth in that mid-single-digit number? Just any more color there?

Speaker #8: What about the remainder of the year? Do you expect the deposit growth to match the loan growth in that mid-single-digit number? Just any more color there?

Sunnie Davis: I do expect a little bit of deposit growth, but I believe we are going to be funding at least half of the loan growth with wholesale.

Speaker #9: I do expect a little bit of deposit growth, but I believe we are going to be funding at least half of the loan growth with wholesale.

Sunnie Davis: I do expect a little bit of deposit growth, but I believe we are going to be funding at least half of the loan growth with wholesale.

Matt Olney: Is that comment like a full year kind of comment, or is it kind of in the near term? What was the timing of that comment?

Speaker #8: And is that comment a full-year kind of comment or is it kind of in the near term? What was the timing of that comment?

Matt Olney: Is that comment like a full year kind of comment, or is it kind of in the near term? What was the timing of that comment?

Speaker #9: Okay. So we're over budget right now with wholesale because of loan growth has exceeded so I expect deposits to pick up in Q2. We're going to have some more seasonality in Q2 with one particular customer.

Sunnie Davis: Okay, we're over budget right now with wholesale because of loan growth has exceeded. I expect deposits to pick up in Q2. We're gonna have some more seasonality in Q2 with one particular customer. You know, we are targeting to still meet our budgeted deposit growth, and we're putting in some looking closer at our strategy to ensure that that happens.

Speaker #9: And then we are targeting to still meet our budgeted deposit growth. And we're putting in some—I would say—looking closer at our strategy to ensure that that happens.

Speaker #6: We are spending a lot of time talking about deposit strategy growth. So it's key to what we do, obviously, and we're getting everybody focused on it.

Keith Donahoe: We are spending a lot of time talking about deposit strategy growth. It's key to what we do, obviously, and we're getting everybody focused on it.

Speaker #8: Okay, appreciate that. And then on the net interest margin this past quarter, the loan yields look exceptionally strong. I know you have some nice loan repricing tailwinds that you highlighted.

Matt Olney: Okay. Appreciate that. On the net interest margin, this past quarter, the loan yields look exceptionally strong. I know you have some nice loan pricing tailwinds that you highlighted. Anything else unusual on that loan yield number this quarter that you reported this morning?

Speaker #8: Anything else unusual on that loan yield number this quarter that you reported this morning?

Speaker #6: Now, we're still seeing fierce competition on quality real estate assets in particular. I do think what helped us in the first quarter were a number of the closings were in areas that we tend to see a little bit higher spread.

Keith Donahoe: No. You know, we're still seeing fierce competition on quality real estate assets in particular. I do think what helped us in the Q1 were a number of the closings were in areas that we tend to see a little bit higher spread. Some of that is in our home building book, some of that is in our lot development. Both of those categories tend to get a little bit higher spread. I can't tell you that will continue throughout the rest of the year, but we do have, you know, one of the specialties that we have is home building activity, and it's been good for us. I think we bank some of the top premier builders throughout the state, and we'll continue to do that.

Speaker #6: Some of that is in our home building book. Some of that is in our lot development. Both of those categories tend to get a little bit higher spread.

Keith Donahoe: I can't tell you that will continue throughout the rest of the year, but we do have, you know, one of the specialties that we have is home building activity, and it's been good for us. I think we bank some of the top premier builders throughout the state, and we'll continue to do that.

Speaker #6: I can't tell you that will continue throughout the rest of the year, but we do have—one of the specialties that we have is home building activity.

Speaker #6: And it's been good for us. I think we bank some of the top premier builders throughout the state, and we'll continue to do that.

Speaker #6: But generally speaking, you get a little bit better pricing on that. Lot development activity is similar, although we're being very selective on adding new lot developers or projects because it's very, very sub-market specific today.

Keith Donahoe: Generally speaking, you get a little bit better pricing on that. Lot development activity is similar, although, you know, we're being very selective on adding new lot developers or projects because it's very, very sub-market specific today, especially in the Dallas-Fort Worth market. There are still pockets that are really, you know, they're pretty strong, but they're also. You go 5 miles down the road, and you don't wanna touch a project. It's very, very sub-market specific. Again, these are developers that have deep equity pockets and long a lot of experience.

Speaker #6: Especially in the Dallas-Fort Worth market, there are still pockets that are really, they're pretty strong, but also, you go five miles down the road and you don't want to touch a project.

Keith Donahoe: There are still pockets that are really, you know, they're pretty strong, but they're also. You go 5 miles down the road, and you don't wanna touch a project. It's very, very sub-market specific. Again, these are developers that have deep equity pockets and long a lot of experience.

Speaker #6: So it's very, very sub-market specific. And again, these are developers that have deep equity pockets and long a lot of experience.

Speaker #8: Yep, okay, thanks for that. And then, just lastly on the credit front—I think Keith, you addressed some of the questions on multifamily, but we also got that paydown of that $27 million restructured credit from previous quarters that we've discussed on these calls.

Matt Olney: Yep. Okay. Thanks for that. Then just lastly, on the credit front, I think, Keith, you addressed some of the questions on multifamily, but we also got that pay down of that $27 million restructure credit from the previous quarters that we've discussed on these calls. Just any more color on the resolution of that credit?

Speaker #8: Just any more color on the resolution of that credit?

Speaker #6: Yeah, the only thing that I'd call out is, especially given that we've moved—we've migrated four other multifamily projects. That one was in the non-performing asset category, but we felt pretty good about it.

Keith Donahoe: Yeah. You know, the only thing that I'd call out is, you know, especially given that we've moved, we've migrated four other multifamily projects, you know, that one was in the non-performing asset category, but we felt pretty good about it, given the individual project dynamics and the fact that it got refinanced by a life company. They actually added an additional $1 million in loan proceeds. It's an earnout for them, but that gives you some indication of the type of projects that we typically finance. Even though that one was in the NPA bucket, we were never real overly concerned about it. We obviously watch them and pay attention to them.

Speaker #6: Given the individual project dynamics, and the fact that it got refinanced by a life company, and they actually added an additional $1 million in loan proceeds.

Keith Donahoe: They actually added an additional $1 million in loan proceeds. It's an earnout for them, but that gives you some indication of the type of projects that we typically finance. Even though that one was in the NPA bucket, we were never real overly concerned about it. We obviously watch them and pay attention to them. I think you'll be able to expect the same type of results coming out of these other four that we have been where we've downgraded, but we're not overly concerned with. Hopefully, that helps.

Speaker #6: It's an earn-out for them, but that gives you some indication of the type of projects that we typically finance. Even though that one was in the NPA bucket, we were really never overly concerned about it.

Speaker #6: We obviously watch them and pay attention to them. But that is, I think you'll be able to expect the same type of results coming out of these other four that we have been where we've downgraded, that we're not overly concerned with.

Keith Donahoe: I think you'll be able to expect the same type of results coming out of these other four that we have been where we've downgraded, but we're not overly concerned with. Hopefully, that helps.

Speaker #6: Hopefully, that helps.

Speaker #8: Yes, that is helpful. Thanks for all the color, guys.

Matt Olney: Yes, that is helpful. Thanks for all the color, guys.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from Brett Rabbitton with StoneX Group. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Brett Rabatin with StoneX Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Hey, just a follow-up on the Texas markets, and there's been a couple of deals in the market here in the past few quarters. Just wanted to see if you were able to take advantage of the disruption from some of those transactions, or how you viewed disruption in the Texas markets.

Brett Rabatin: Hey, just a follow-up on the Texas markets. You know, there's been a couple deals in the market here in the past, few quarters. Just wanted to see, you know, if you were being able to take advantage of the disruption from some of those transactions or how you viewed disruption in the Texas markets. If M&A might be a strategy from here, if you guys are out you know, actively or aggressively looking for other partners or, you know, just any thoughts on your growth plans and, you know, the Texas markets.

Speaker #8: And then, if M&A might be a strategy from here, if you guys are out actively or aggressively looking for other partners, or just any thoughts on your growth plans and the Texas markets.

Speaker #6: Yeah. In general, there has been disruption in the market, and it's both from a customer standpoint as well as an employee base. We have been having conversations with folks from an employment standpoint that could be beneficial to us, some of whom are from larger banks than we are, that would be helpful for us as we cross the $10 billion mark.

Keith Donahoe: Yeah. You know, in general, there has been disruption in the market, it's both from a customer standpoint as well as an employee base. We've been having conversations with folks from an employment standpoint that could be beneficial to us, some of which are from larger banks than we are, that would be helpful for us as we cross the 10 billion dollar mark. We're gonna be very opportunistic with that. In addition, you know, I didn't highlight this, one of the C&I customers we picked up in Q1 really came out of a displacement with another acquisition by an out-of-state organization. The customer had a strong desire to bank with a Texas-based bank. We had been calling on them.

Speaker #6: So, we are—we're going to be very opportunistic with that. And, in addition, I didn't highlight this, but one of the CNI customers we picked up in the first quarter really came out of a displacement with another acquisition by an out-of-state organization.

Keith Donahoe: We're gonna be very opportunistic with that. In addition, you know, I didn't highlight this, one of the C&I customers we picked up in Q1 really came out of a displacement with another acquisition by an out-of-state organization. The customer had a strong desire to bank with a Texas-based bank. We had been calling on them. It made for a fairly easy transition for them. Yes, we're seeing it both from an employee standpoint and also customer opportunities.

Speaker #6: The customer had a strong desire to bank with the Texas-based bank. We had been calling on them, and so it made for a fairly easy transition for them.

Keith Donahoe: It made for a fairly easy transition for them. Yes, we're seeing it both from an employee standpoint and also customer opportunities.

Speaker #6: So yes, we're seeing it both from an employee standpoint and also customer opportunities.

Speaker #8: Okay. And then just any thoughts on M&A, your appetite? If so, what you are seeing out there?

Brett Rabatin: Okay. Just any thoughts on M&A, your appetite, if so?

Keith Donahoe: Yeah.

Brett Rabatin: what you were seeing out there.

Keith Donahoe: Yeah.

Brett Rabatin: what you were seeing out there.

Speaker #6: Yeah. So we're continuing to talk. And we are open to acquisitions. And that's that has always been our strategy. I do think that today there's a higher probability of something occurring.

Keith Donahoe: We're continuing to talk, and we are open to acquisitions, and that has always been our strategy. I do think that today there's higher probability of something occurring because just the market dynamics that are out there. That'll continue to be part of our strategy.

Speaker #6: Because of just the market dynamics that are out there. So that will continue to be part of our strategy.

Speaker #8: Okay. Great. Appreciate the color.

Brett Rabatin: Okay. great. Appreciate the color.

Speaker #1: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Keith Donahoe, President and CEO, for closing remarks.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Keith Donahoe, President and CEO, for closing remarks.

Speaker #6: Brad, thank you. Everyone, thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Southside, and we're optimistic about 2026. We look forward to reporting second quarter earnings during our next call in July.

Keith Donahoe: All right. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Southside. We're optimistic about 2026 and look forward to reporting Q2 earnings during our next call in July. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #1: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.

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