Q1 2026 Acme United Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Acme United Q1 2026 Financial Results Call. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Walter Johnsen, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.
Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Acme United Q1 2026 Financial Results Call. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Walter Johnsen, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #5: Good morning. Welcome to the first quarter 2026 earnings conference call for Acme United Corporation. I am Walter C. Johnson, Chairman and CEO. With me is Paul Driscoll, our Chief Financial Officer.
Walter C. Johnsen: Good morning. Welcome to the Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call for Acme United Corporation. I'm Walter C. Johnsen, Chairman and CEO. With me is Paul G. Driscoll, our Chief Financial Officer, who will first read a safe harbor statement. Paul?
Walter Johnsen: Good morning. Welcome to the Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call for Acme United Corporation. I'm Walter C. Johnsen, Chairman and CEO. With me is Paul Driscoll, our Chief Financial Officer, who will first read a safe harbor statement. Paul?
Speaker #5: We'll first read a safe harbor statement. Paul?
Speaker #6: Forward-looking statements in this conference call, including, without limitation, statements related to the company's plans, strategies, objectives, expectations, intentions, and adequacy of capital and other resources, are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Paul G. Driscoll: Forward-looking statements in this conference call, including without limitation, statements related to the company's plans, strategies, objectives, expectations, intentions, and adequacy of capital and other resources are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, among others, those arising as a result of a challenging global macroeconomic environment characterized by continued high inflation, high interest rates, and the imposition of new tariffs or changes in existing tariff rates. In addition, we have experienced supply chain disruptions in the past, and we may experience these disruptions in the future. We are also subject to additional risks and uncertainties as described in our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in our current earnings release.
Paul Driscoll: Forward-looking statements in this conference call, including without limitation, statements related to the company's plans, strategies, objectives, expectations, intentions, and adequacy of capital and other resources are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, among others, those arising as a result of a challenging global macroeconomic environment characterized by continued high inflation, high interest rates, and the imposition of new tariffs or changes in existing tariff rates. In addition, we have experienced supply chain disruptions in the past, and we may experience these disruptions in the future. We are also subject to additional risks and uncertainties as described in our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in our current earnings release.
Speaker #6: Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, among others, those arising as a result of a challenging global macroeconomic environment characterized by continued high inflation, high interest rates, and the imposition of new tariffs or changes in existing tariff rates.
Speaker #6: In addition, we have experienced supply chain disruptions in the past, and we may experience these disruptions in the future. We are also subject to additional risks and uncertainties as described in our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in our current earnings release.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Paul. Acme United had a difficult first quarter of 2026. While our net sales increased 14% to $52.3 million, our net income was $985,000, compared to $1.6 million last year, and earnings per share were $24 cents, compared to $41 cents last year.
Walter C. Johnsen: Thank you, Paul. Acme United had a difficult Q1 2026. While our net sales increased 14% to $52.3 million, our net income was $985,000 compared to $1.6 million last year, and earnings per share were $0.24 compared to $0.41 last year. As you may remember, we purchased My Medic for $18.6 million during Q1 2026. The company sells directly to consumers and is cyclical, with most of the profits generated in Q4 of the year. It also generates high gross margins, which it spends on advertising, promotions, new product development, and customer support. Our sales increase of 14% in Q1 2026 includes approximately 8% from My Medic, which was at breakeven in P&L. Revenues excluding My Medic increased 6%. The company's gross margins in Q1 2026 were 39.7% compared to 39% last year.
Walter Johnsen: Thank you, Paul. Acme United had a difficult Q1 2026. While our net sales increased 14% to $52.3 million, our net income was $985,000 compared to $1.6 million last year, and earnings per share were $0.24 compared to $0.41 last year. As you may remember, we purchased My Medic for $18.6 million during Q1 2026. The company sells directly to consumers and is cyclical, with most of the profits generated in Q4 of the year. It also generates high gross margins, which it spends on advertising, promotions, new product development, and customer support. Our sales increase of 14% in Q1 2026 includes approximately 8% from My Medic, which was at breakeven in P&L. Revenues excluding My Medic increased 6%. The company's gross margins in Q1 2026 were 39.7% compared to 39% last year.
Speaker #5: As you may remember, we purchased MyMedic for $18.6 million during the first quarter of 2026. The company sells directly to consumers and is cyclical, with most of the profits generated in the fourth quarter of the year.
Speaker #5: It also generates high gross margins, which it spends on advertising, promotions, new product development, and customer support. Our sales increase of 14% in the first quarter of 2026 includes approximately 8% from MyMedic, which was at break-even in P&L.
Speaker #5: Revenues excluding MyMedic increased 6%. The company's gross margins in the first quarter of 2026 were $39.7%, compared to $39% last year. When the impact of the high gross margins at MyMedic are removed, the core gross margins decline due to higher costs and tariffs.
Walter C. Johnsen: When the impact of the high gross margins at My Medic are removed, the core gross margins declined due to higher costs and tariffs. We turn our inventory about twice per year, so the costs reflected in Q1 were from products made and purchased when the tariffs were at their peak. We expect to run through these items during Q2 with a return to normal levels in Q3. Shortly after the war in Iran began, we started purchasing higher than normal quantities of raw materials and finished goods inventory. So far, we have purchased approximately $10 million of incremental inventory. While we hope for a quick end to the war, we are planning and acting to be prepared for increasing costs and shortages. Operationally, we're working to increase the revenues of My Medic by expanding its retail distribution and building a strong core of non-seasonal business.
Walter Johnsen: When the impact of the high gross margins at My Medic are removed, the core gross margins declined due to higher costs and tariffs. We turn our inventory about twice per year, so the costs reflected in Q1 were from products made and purchased when the tariffs were at their peak. We expect to run through these items during Q2 with a return to normal levels in Q3. Shortly after the war in Iran began, we started purchasing higher than normal quantities of raw materials and finished goods inventory. So far, we have purchased approximately $10 million of incremental inventory. While we hope for a quick end to the war, we are planning and acting to be prepared for increasing costs and shortages. Operationally, we're working to increase the revenues of My Medic by expanding its retail distribution and building a strong core of non-seasonal business.
Speaker #5: We turn our inventory about twice per year, so the costs reflected in the first quarter were from products made and purchased when the tariffs were at their peak.
Speaker #5: We expect to run through these items during the second quarter, with a return to normal levels in the third quarter. Shortly after the war in Iran began, we started purchasing higher-than-normal quantities of raw materials and finished goods inventory.
Speaker #5: So far, we have purchased approximately $10 million of incremental inventory. While we hope for a quick end to the war, we are planning and acting to be prepared for increasing costs and shortages.
Speaker #5: Operationally, we're working to increase the revenues of MyMedic by expanding its retail distribution and building a strong core of non-seasonal business. Our teams are integrating product lines, leveraging our purchasing strengths, and reducing duplicate expenses with the goal of generating significant profits throughout the year.
Walter C. Johnsen: Our teams are integrating product lines, leveraging our purchasing strengths, and reducing duplicate expenses with the goal of generating significant profits throughout the year. The project is well underway. We are completing the move into our new Spill Magic facility in Mount Pleasant, Tennessee. Production has begun there, even as additional equipment is being installed. Orders for the business are strong, and we are experiencing record growth. In Europe, sales increased 19% in local currency to EUR 4 million. Our growth there includes the acquisition last November of Schmiedeglut, a small direct-to-consumer company, which is exceeding expectations. Our first aid business in Europe had record performance, and we continue to expand its product line and sales team. The Westcott cutting tool business overcame market headwinds and increased 10% in Europe. In Canada, First Aid Central had a strong quarter, and the cutting segment also grew.
Walter Johnsen: Our teams are integrating product lines, leveraging our purchasing strengths, and reducing duplicate expenses with the goal of generating significant profits throughout the year. The project is well underway. We are completing the move into our new Spill Magic facility in Mount Pleasant, Tennessee. Production has begun there, even as additional equipment is being installed. Orders for the business are strong, and we are experiencing record growth.
Speaker #5: The project is well underway. We are completing the move into our new SpillMagic facility in Mount Pleasant, Tennessee. Production has begun there, even as additional equipment is being installed.
Speaker #5: Orders for the business are strong, and we are experiencing record growth. In Europe, sales increased 19% in local currency to €4 million. Our growth there includes the acquisition last November of Schmiedeglut, a small direct-to-consumer company which is exceeding expectations.
Walter Johnsen: In Europe, sales increased 19% in local currency to EUR 4 million. Our growth there includes the acquisition last November of Schmiedeglut, a small direct-to-consumer company, which is exceeding expectations. Our first aid business in Europe had record performance, and we continue to expand its product line and sales team. The Westcott cutting tool business overcame market headwinds and increased 10% in Europe. In Canada, First Aid Central had a strong quarter, and the cutting segment also grew. Overall, our Canadian business increased 16% compared to Q1 2025. I will now turn the call to Paul Driscoll.
Speaker #5: Our first-aid business in Europe had record performance, and we continue to expand its product line and sales team. The Westcott cutting tool business overcame market headwinds and increased 10% in Europe.
Speaker #5: In Canada, first-aid Central had a strong quarter, and the cutting segment also grew. Overall, our Canadian business increased 16% compared to the first quarter of 2025.
Walter C. Johnsen: Overall, our Canadian business increased 16% compared to Q1 2025. I will now turn the call to Paul Driscoll.
Speaker #5: I will now turn the call to Paul.
Speaker #7: Acme's net sales for the first quarter of 2026 were $52.3 million, compared to $46 million in 2025, a 14% increase. Excluding MyMedic, sales increased 6%.
Paul G. Driscoll: Acme's net sales for Q1 2026 were $52.3 million, compared to $46 million in 2025, a 14% increase. Excluding My Medic, sales increased 6%. Net sales in the US segment increased 12% in the quarter, driven by higher sales of first aid and medical products, including My Medic products. Net sales in Europe for Q1 2026 increased 19% in local currency compared to Q1 2025, due mainly to the new line of cutting and sharpening tools. The base business had a good performance with a sales increase of 12%. Net sales in Canada for Q1 2026 increased 11% in local currency due to higher sales of first aid products. The gross margin was 39.7% in Q1 2026 versus 39% in Q1 2025.
Paul Driscoll: Acme's net sales for Q1 2026 were $52.3 million, compared to $46 million in 2025, a 14% increase. Excluding My Medic, sales increased 6%. Net sales in the US segment increased 12% in the quarter, driven by higher sales of first aid and medical products, including My Medic products. Net sales in Europe for Q1 2026 increased 19% in local currency compared to Q1 2025, due mainly to the new line of cutting and sharpening tools. The base business had a good performance with a sales increase of 12%. Net sales in Canada for Q1 2026 increased 11% in local currency due to higher sales of first aid products. The gross margin was 39.7% in Q1 2026 versus 39% in Q1 2025.
Speaker #7: Net sales in the U.S. segment increased 12% in the quarter, driven by higher sales of first-aid and medical products, including MyMedic products. Net sales in Europe for the first quarter of 2026 increased 19% in local currency compared to the first quarter of 2025, due mainly to the new line of cutting and sharpening tools.
Speaker #7: The base business had a good performance with a sales increase of 12%. Net sales in Canada for the first quarter of 2026 increased 11% in local currency due to higher sales of first-aid products.
Speaker #7: The gross margin was 39.7% in the first quarter of 2026, versus 39.0% in the first quarter of 2025. The favorable mix from higher-margin direct-to-consumer MyMedic products was mostly offset by the impact of increased tariffs.
Paul G. Driscoll: The favorable mix from higher margin direct-to-consumer My Medic products was mostly offset by the impact of increased tariffs. SG&A expenses for Q1 2026 were $19 million, or 36% of net sales, compared with $15.5 million, or 34% of net sales, for the same period of 2025. The higher SG&A was primarily due to the addition of the My Medic business. The higher percentage of sales was due to the higher amount of advertising needed for the direct-to-consumer My Medic business. Net income for Q1 2026 was $1 million, or $0.24 per diluted share, compared to net income of $1.7 million, or $0.41 per diluted share, for the same period of 2025, a decrease of 40% in net income. The decline in net income was primarily due to the higher tariff and Med-Nap costs we experienced in the first quarter of this year.
Paul Driscoll: The favorable mix from higher margin direct-to-consumer My Medic products was mostly offset by the impact of increased tariffs. SG&A expenses for Q1 2026 were $19 million, or 36% of net sales, compared with $15.5 million, or 34% of net sales, for the same period of 2025. The higher SG&A was primarily due to the addition of the My Medic business. The higher percentage of sales was due to the higher amount of advertising needed for the direct-to-consumer My Medic business. Net income for Q1 2026 was $1 million, or $0.24 per diluted share, compared to net income of $1.7 million, or $0.41 per diluted share, for the same period of 2025, a decrease of 40% in net income. The decline in net income was primarily due to the higher tariff and Med-Nap costs we experienced in the first quarter of this year.
Speaker #7: SG&A expenses for the first quarter of 2026 were $19 million, or 36% of net sales, compared with $15.5 million, or 34% of net sales, for the same period of 2025.
Speaker #7: The higher SG&A was primarily due to the addition of the MyMedic business. The higher percentage of sales was due to the higher amount of advertising needed for the direct-to-consumer MyMedic business.
Speaker #7: Net income for the first quarter of 2026 was $1.0 million, or $0.24 per diluted share, compared to net income of $1.7 million, or $0.41 per diluted share, for the same period of 2025.
Speaker #7: A decrease of 40% in net income. The decline in net income was primarily due to the higher tariff and MedNav costs we experienced in the first quarter of this year.
Speaker #7: The higher tariff spending commenced in July of 2025; however, the costs for capitalizing to inventory and we started to realize the full impact on earnings as the high-cost products were sold in the first quarter of 2026.
Paul G. Driscoll: The higher tariff spending commenced in July 2025. However, the costs were capitalized into inventory, and we started to realize the full impact to earnings as the high-cost products were sold in Q1 2026. We expect the tariff impact to gradually lessen over the next three quarters as the tariff rate declined in November 2025 and again in February 2026. Additionally, the incremental cost to enhance the quality assurance protocols at the Med-Nap facility will not repeat in Q2 2026. Now to the balance sheet. Net debt increased from $27.2 million at 31 March 2025 to $38.6 million at 31 March 2026. During the 12-month period ended 31 March 2026, we paid $14.6 million for the acquisition of the assets of My Medic, distributed approximately $2.4 million in dividends, and purchased a cutting and sharpening line of products in Germany for $1.6 million.
Paul Driscoll: The higher tariff spending commenced in July 2025. However, the costs were capitalized into inventory, and we started to realize the full impact to earnings as the high-cost products were sold in Q1 2026. We expect the tariff impact to gradually lessen over the next three quarters as the tariff rate declined in November 2025 and again in February 2026. Additionally, the incremental cost to enhance the quality assurance protocols at the Med-Nap facility will not repeat in Q2 2026. Now to the balance sheet. Net debt increased from $27.2 million at 31 March 2025 to $38.6 million at 31 March 2026. During the 12-month period ended 31 March 2026, we paid $14.6 million for the acquisition of the assets of My Medic, distributed approximately $2.4 million in dividends, and purchased a cutting and sharpening line of products in Germany for $1.6 million.
Speaker #7: We expect the tariff impact to gradually lessen over the next three quarters as the tariff rate declined in November 2025 and again in February 2026.
Speaker #7: Additionally, the incremental cost to enhance the quality assurance protocols at the MedNav facility will not repeat in the second quarter of 2026. Now, to the balance sheet.
Speaker #7: Net debt increased from $27.2 million at March 31, 2025, to $38.6 million at March 31, 2026. During the 12-month period ended March 31, 2026, we paid $14.6 million for the acquisition of the assets of MyMedic, distributed approximately $2.4 million in dividends, and purchased the cutting and sharpening line of products in Germany for $1.6 million.
Paul G. Driscoll: Additionally, we generated approximately $14.2 million in free cash flow before the purchase of a new $6 million manufacturing and distribution facility in Tennessee in July 2025 to expand our Spill Magic business.
Paul Driscoll: Additionally, we generated approximately $14.2 million in free cash flow before the purchase of a new $6 million manufacturing and distribution facility in Tennessee in July 2025 to expand our Spill Magic business.
Speaker #7: Additionally, we generated approximately $14.2 million in free cash flow before the purchase of a new $6 million manufacturing and distribution facility in Tennessee in July 2025 to expand our SpillMagic business.
Walter C. Johnsen: Thank you, Paul. I will now open the call to questions.
Walter Johnsen: Thank you, Paul. I will now open the call to questions.
Speaker #7: Thank you, Paul. I will now open the call to
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Richard Dearnley: Good morning. Could you put a dollar amount or a rough dollar amount on what the quality assurance protocols are involving?
Richard Dearnley: Good morning. Could you put a dollar amount or a rough dollar amount on what the quality assurance protocols are involving?
Speaker #9: Good morning. Could you put a dollar amount, or a rough dollar amount, on what the quality assurance protocols are involving?
Walter C. Johnsen: Sure. Just some background on that. Last March, the FDA inspected our facility in Brooksville, Florida, and we make alcohol prep pads, BZK wipes, and lens wipes there. They found a number of deficiencies in mostly our documentation of good manufacturing practices or documentation of some of the equipment being qualified. It's a lot of work to get it to be the state it needs to be to address the US hospital market, and that is our goal. We hired a consulting firm to work with us to upgrade, in response to the FDA audit, which was very helpful, to upgrade the entire facility. Last year, Paul, was it about $1.2 million?
Walter Johnsen: Sure. Just some background on that. Last March, the FDA inspected our facility in Brooksville, Florida, and we make alcohol prep pads, BZK wipes, and lens wipes there. They found a number of deficiencies in mostly our documentation of good manufacturing practices or documentation of some of the equipment being qualified. It's a lot of work to get it to be the state it needs to be to address the US hospital market, and that is our goal. We hired a consulting firm to work with us to upgrade, in response to the FDA audit, which was very helpful, to upgrade the entire facility. Last year, Paul, was it about $1.2 million?
Speaker #10: Sure. So, just some background on that. Last March, the FDA inspected our facility in Brooksville, Florida, and we make alcohol prep pads, BCK wipes, and lens wipes there.
Speaker #10: And they found a number of deficiencies, mostly in our documentation of good manufacturing practices or our documentation of some of the equipment being qualified.
Speaker #10: And it's a lot of work to get it to the state it needs to be to address the U.S. hospital market. And that is our goal.
Speaker #10: So we hired a consulting firm to work with us to upgrade, in response to the FDA audit, which was very helpful—to upgrade the entire facility.
Speaker #10: So last year, Paul, it was at about $1.2 million.
Paul G. Driscoll: $1 million, yeah. $1 million, yeah.
Paul Driscoll: $1 million, yeah. $1 million, yeah.
Walter C. Johnsen: About $1 million we spent last year in consulting, and that's in addition to some equipment that we've purchased. For example, we've upgraded a microbiology lab that we really didn't have before, and we've upgraded the chemical laboratory for testing. It was about $1 million in consulting. In the Q1 of this year, it was about $250,000?
Walter Johnsen: About $1 million we spent last year in consulting, and that's in addition to some equipment that we've purchased. For example, we've upgraded a microbiology lab that we really didn't have before, and we've upgraded the chemical laboratory for testing. It was about $1 million in consulting. In the Q1 of this year, it was about $250,000?
Speaker #9: A million, yeah, a million dollars, yeah.
Speaker #10: About a million dollars we spent last year in consulting, and that's in addition to some equipment that we've purchased. For example, we've upgraded a microbiology lab that we really didn't have before.
Speaker #10: And we've upgraded the chemical laboratory for testing. But it was about a million dollars in consulting. In the first quarter of this year, it was about $250,000.
Paul G. Driscoll: $300,000.
Paul Driscoll: $300,000.
Walter C. Johnsen: About $300,000. Dick, it was about $300,000. Far, we've done, I think in total it's about $1,250,000 or $1,300,000. Correct.
Walter Johnsen: About $300,000. Dick, it was about $300,000. Far, we've done, I think in total it's about $1,250,000 or $1,300,000.
Speaker #10: About $300,000. So, Dick, it was about $300,000. So far, we've done, I think in total, it's about $1,250,000 or $1,300,000.
Paul Driscoll: Correct.
Speaker #9: Correct. Right. And that's all aimed at qualifying the MedNav products for hospital use.
Richard Dearnley: Right. That's all aimed at qualifying the Med-Nap products for hospital use.
Richard Dearnley: Right. That's all aimed at qualifying the Med-Nap products for hospital use.
Walter C. Johnsen: Well, it's-
Walter Johnsen: Well, it's-
Richard Dearnley: Getting approval.
Richard Dearnley: Getting approval.
Speaker #10: Well, yes. Well, it's not getting approval. We could sell them now, but you wanted to have it done right. In fact, our products do get sold into hospitals now.
Walter C. Johnsen: Yes. Well, it's not getting approval. We could sell them now, but you wanted to have it done right. In fact, our products do get sold into hospitals now, but when we get done with the project, and we're about three-quarters done, we'll have a facility that we'll be very proud to take major distributors in the United States to visit and do their own audits, and we'll have confidence that we've really done the best job we can for the quality of the products that will go out. We're three-quarters through, and I think it's all expensed, but we've been doing it, and I view it as an investment.
Walter Johnsen: Yes. Well, it's not getting approval. We could sell them now, but you wanted to have it done right. In fact, our products do get sold into hospitals now, but when we get done with the project, and we're about three-quarters done, we'll have a facility that we'll be very proud to take major distributors in the United States to visit and do their own audits, and we'll have confidence that we've really done the best job we can for the quality of the products that will go out. We're three-quarters through, and I think it's all expensed, but we've been doing it, and I view it as an investment.
Speaker #10: But when we get done with the project, and we're about three-quarters done, we'll have a facility that we will be very proud to take major distributors in the United States to visit and do their own audits.
Speaker #10: And we'll have confidence that we've really done the best job we can for the quality of the products that will go out. So we're three quarters through, and I think it's all expensed, but we've been doing it.
Speaker #10: And I view it as an investment.
Richard Dearnley: Right. Yeah. Your comment, I mean, that tracks along to the comment about investing in automation everywhere, or whatever the phrase was. Could you size the other investments? I mean, last year you were talking about $2 million, and I believe the year before was $2 million. Is that current run rate? Because those investments tend to have large productivity payoffs.
Richard Dearnley: Right. Yeah. Your comment, I mean, that tracks along to the comment about investing in automation everywhere, or whatever the phrase was. Could you size the other investments? I mean, last year you were talking about $2 million, and I believe the year before was $2 million. Is that current run rate? Because those investments tend to have large productivity payoffs.
Speaker #9: Right. Yeah. And the comment—I mean, that tacks along to the comment about investing in automation in everywhere, or whatever the phrase was.
Speaker #9: Could you size the other investments? I mean, last year you were talking about $2 million, and I believe the year before was $2 million.
Speaker #9: Is that current run rate? Because those investments tend to have large productivity payoffs.
Walter C. Johnsen: Yeah. You're addressing something that is important to us. The automation that we've been doing over the past few years has been with robotics, and one of the big projects is taking the bulk product, for example, bulk BZK wipes that we produce at Med-Nap, and putting them automatically in packages that then go into the refills in our first aid kits. As you know, the refill business is an important part of our company. By automating it, we're reducing cost on a product line that is very consistent and growing. Some of the projects we're doing right now relate to automating in the Spill Magic facility the packaging of the Spill Magic powder and putting them into different sized packages. That has a pretty big payback. Honestly, I don't remember the number that we put in there, but maybe it's a half million dollars.
Walter Johnsen: Yeah. You're addressing something that is important to us. The automation that we've been doing over the past few years has been with robotics, and one of the big projects is taking the bulk product, for example, bulk BZK wipes that we produce at Med-Nap, and putting them automatically in packages that then go into the refills in our first aid kits. As you know, the refill business is an important part of our company. By automating it, we're reducing cost on a product line that is very consistent and growing. Some of the projects we're doing right now relate to automating in the Spill Magic facility the packaging of the Spill Magic powder and putting them into different sized packages. That has a pretty big payback. Honestly, I don't remember the number that we put in there, but maybe it's a half million dollars.
Speaker #10: Yeah, you're addressing something that is important to us. The automation that we've been doing over the past few years has been with robotics, and one of the big projects is taking the bulk product—for example, bulk BCK wipes that will be produced at MedNav—and putting them automatically in packages that then go into the refills in our first aid kits.
Speaker #10: And as you know, the refill business is an important part of our company. By automating it, we're reducing costs on a product line that is very consistent and growing.
Speaker #10: Some of the projects we're doing right now relate to automating in the SpillMagic facility, automating the packaging of the SpillMagic powder, and putting them into different sized packages.
Speaker #10: And that has a pretty big payback. Honestly, I don't remember the number that we put in there, but maybe it's a half million dollars.
Walter C. Johnsen: It's an important one because we've got business that will keep that machine going. Another area is in our Rocky Mount facility, and I wouldn't call this automation, but we've reconfigured the entire process flow so that we have less people. We have some small automation that we've just put in. For example, there's drones that are doing daily cycle counts. You can imagine when we're doing our numbers, we tend to have high confidence that, in fact, the cycle counts hold. When we do physical audits at the end of the year, it speeds up the time we're down while we're doing them. That's some automation that just went in. There's other things. You may have seen robotics that can vacuum your floor in a home.
Walter Johnsen: It's an important one because we've got business that will keep that machine going. Another area is in our Rocky Mount facility, and I wouldn't call this automation, but we've reconfigured the entire process flow so that we have less people. We have some small automation that we've just put in. For example, there's drones that are doing daily cycle counts. You can imagine when we're doing our numbers, we tend to have high confidence that, in fact, the cycle counts hold. When we do physical audits at the end of the year, it speeds up the time we're down while we're doing them. That's some automation that just went in. There's other things. You may have seen robotics that can vacuum your floor in a home.
Speaker #10: But it's an important one because we've got business that will keep that machine going. Another area is in a Rocky Mountain facility. And I wouldn't call this automation, but we've reconfigured the entire process flow so that we have fewer people.
Speaker #10: But we have some small automation that we could just put in. For example, there are drones that are doing daily cycle counts. And so, you can imagine when we're doing our numbers, we tend to have high confidence that, in fact, the cycle counts hold.
Speaker #10: And when we do physical audits at the end of the year, it speeds up the time we're down while we're doing them. So that's some automation that just went in.
Speaker #10: There's other things. You may have seen robotics that can vacuum your floor in a home. Well, there were industrial ones like that that scrub the floor in our 370,000 or 340,000 square foot facility in Rocky Mount.
Walter C. Johnsen: Well, there are industrial ones like that that scrub the floor in our 370,000- or 340,000-sq-ft facility in Rocky Mount so that it is a production site, and it's a very clean warehouse handling a lot of medical items. So it's very clean. It's now done with some robots. Those are some examples of them, Dick. There's another robot machine that we're working on in Brooksville, Florida, that's all been purchased, and we've got some business that is for lens wipes. There, the repetitive loading into the boxes can be done with robotics, with sight sensors, and that's being worked on and should be online by June. Those are some examples.
Walter Johnsen: Well, there are industrial ones like that that scrub the floor in our 370,000- or 340,000-sq-ft facility in Rocky Mount so that it is a production site, and it's a very clean warehouse handling a lot of medical items. So it's very clean. It's now done with some robots. Those are some examples of them, Dick. There's another robot machine that we're working on in Brooksville, Florida, that's all been purchased, and we've got some business that is for lens wipes. There, the repetitive loading into the boxes can be done with robotics, with sight sensors, and that's being worked on and should be online by June. Those are some examples.
Speaker #10: So that is a production site, and it's a very clean warehouse. Handling a lot of medical items, so it's very clean. It's now done with some robots.
Speaker #10: Those are some examples of them, Dick. Then there's another robot machine that we're working on in Brooksville, Florida, that's already been purchased. And we've got some business that is for lens wipes.
Speaker #10: And there, the repetitive loading into the boxes can be done with robotics with site sensors. And that's being worked on and should be online by June.
Speaker #10: Those are some examples.
Richard Dearnley: Oh, yeah. That's good. The My Medic DTC business, does any of their expertise in DTC translate over into either your first aid or Westcott business somehow?
Richard Dearnley: Oh, yeah. That's good. The My Medic DTC business, does any of their expertise in DTC translate over into either your first aid or Westcott business somehow?
Speaker #9: Oh, yeah, that's good. And the MyMedics DTC business—does any of their expertise in DTC translate over into either your first aid or Westcott business somehow?
Walter C. Johnsen: Our last two acquisitions, the small Schmiedeglut acquisition in Germany and My Medic, are both direct-to-consumer. As you may know, that means you're using social media as a selling tool, and you're putting ads in places like Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and, of course, Google Search. There's a consistent pattern of videos that are delivered onto the site, and the purchases are coming directly off the website. In the case of My Medic, that's our first step in the United States to do direct-to-consumer. It lends itself to selling things like craft items. Again, because you can demonstrate there's a lot of differentiation in the product, and when we're doing new product introductions, you have a ready platform of potential customers who are following you. The benefit of My Medic is we're not establishing a social media base.
Walter Johnsen: Our last two acquisitions, the small Schmiedeglut acquisition in Germany and My Medic, are both direct-to-consumer. As you may know, that means you're using social media as a selling tool, and you're putting ads in places like Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and, of course, Google Search. There's a consistent pattern of videos that are delivered onto the site, and the purchases are coming directly off the website. In the case of My Medic, that's our first step in the United States to do direct-to-consumer. It lends itself to selling things like craft items. Again, because you can demonstrate there's a lot of differentiation in the product, and when we're doing new product introductions, you have a ready platform of potential customers who are following you. The benefit of My Medic is we're not establishing a social media base.
Speaker #10: So our last two acquisitions, the small Schmiedeglut acquisition in Germany, and MyMedic, are both direct-to-consumer. And so, as you may know, that means you're using social media as a selling tool.
Speaker #10: And you're putting ads in places like Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and of course, Google Search. And there's a consistent pattern of video that are delivered onto the site.
Speaker #10: And the purchases are coming directly off the website. In the case of MyMedic, that's our first step in the United States to do direct-to-consumer.
Speaker #10: And it lends itself to selling things like craft items. Again, because you can demonstrate there's a lot of differentiation in the product. And when we do new product introductions, you have a ready platform of potential customers. The benefit of MyMedic is we're not establishing a social media base.
Walter C. Johnsen: We have 500,000 social media followers today, and we put out videos every two days. Sometimes it's how to use first aid kits. Sometimes it's success stories and life-saving stories on what the use of a bleed control kit did and how it saved somebody's life. In other cases, it's for training or new products. The answer is, as we get experience with it, I hope that we do broaden the amount that we bring of our other product lines. And I think, in the Westcott line, that would be in the craft area.
Walter Johnsen: We have 500,000 social media followers today, and we put out videos every two days. Sometimes it's how to use first aid kits. Sometimes it's success stories and life-saving stories on what the use of a bleed control kit did and how it saved somebody's life. In other cases, it's for training or new products. The answer is, as we get experience with it, I hope that we do broaden the amount that we bring of our other product lines. And I think, in the Westcott line, that would be in the craft area.
Speaker #10: We have half a million social media followers today, and we put out videos every two days. Sometimes it's how to use first aid kits.
Speaker #10: Sometimes it's success stories, and life-saving stories on what the use of a bleed control kit did and how it saved somebody's life. In other cases, it's for training or new products.
Speaker #10: So the answer is, as we get experience with it, I hope that we do broaden the amount that we bring of our other product lines.
Speaker #10: And I think in the Westcott line, that would be in the craft area.
Richard Dearnley: I see. Good. Thank you.
Richard Dearnley: I see. Good. Thank you.
Speaker #9: I see. Good. Thank you.
Walter C. Johnsen: Thank you.
Walter Johnsen: Thank you.
Speaker #10: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tim Call with the Capital Management Corporation. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tim Call with the Capital Management Corporation. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #11: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tim Kaul with the Capital Management Corporation. Please proceed with your question.
Tim Call: Congratulations on so many accomplishments within just two quarters.
Tim Call: Congratulations on so many accomplishments within just two quarters.
Speaker #9: Congratulations on so many accomplishments within just two quarters.
Walter C. Johnsen: Well, Tim, you try so hard to have your accomplishments, and then when you get a setback because of a tariff or changes that you aren't priced for, it's frustrating. You ride it the best you can. As I hope we laid out, as we're looking through the coming quarters, the impact of the tariffs will be less, and we're hedging by buying $10 million of inventory for potential shortages or price increases as a result of the war in Iran. Hopefully, that is just extra inventory, and we sell it over due course. We're looking at and preparing ourselves in case this is an extended conflict.
Walter Johnsen: Well, Tim, you try so hard to have your accomplishments, and then when you get a setback because of a tariff or changes that you aren't priced for, it's frustrating. You ride it the best you can. As I hope we laid out, as we're looking through the coming quarters, the impact of the tariffs will be less, and we're hedging by buying $10 million of inventory for potential shortages or price increases as a result of the war in Iran. Hopefully, that is just extra inventory, and we sell it over due course. We're looking at and preparing ourselves in case this is an extended conflict.
Speaker #10: Well, Tim, you try so hard to have your accomplishments, and then when you get a setback because of a tariff or changes that you aren't priced for, it's frustrating.
Speaker #10: But you're right, at best you can. And, as I hope we laid out, as we're looking through the coming quarters, the impact of the tariffs will be less.
Speaker #10: And we're hedging by buying $10 million of inventory for potential shortages or price increases as a result of the war in Iran.
Speaker #10: Hopefully, that is just extra inventory, and we sell it over the due course. But we're looking at and preparing ourselves in case this is an extended conflict.
Tim Call: You can handle the short-term volatility. In the long term, you've completed two complementary acquisitions.
Tim Call: You can handle the short-term volatility. In the long term, you've completed two complementary acquisitions.
Speaker #12: That you can handle the short-term volatility and, long-term, you've completed two complementary acquisitions. You've consolidated facilities. You've expanded capacity and allowed for future capacity expansion.
Walter C. Johnsen: Yeah.
Walter Johnsen: Yeah.
Tim Call: You've consolidated facilities, you've expanded capacity, allowed for future capacity expansion, and immediately expensed upgrades in technology and automation. Do you see all of these achievements made within the last six months adding to your long-term sales margins and earnings growth over many years?
Tim Call: You've consolidated facilities, you've expanded capacity, allowed for future capacity expansion, and immediately expensed upgrades in technology and automation. Do you see all of these achievements made within the last six months adding to your long-term sales margins and earnings growth over many years?
Speaker #12: And immediately expensed upgrades in technology and automation. Do you see all of these achievements made within the last six months adding to your long-term sales, margins, and earnings growth over many years?
Walter C. Johnsen: Oh, Tim. Yeah. We certainly do. As an example, we spent $6 million to buy the facility in Mount Pleasant, Tennessee for Spill Magic. Spill Magic now has room to grow. For those that may need a refresher, the products that we sell there are used to clean up oily spills, bodily fluids, and blood. The opportunity to create some new products and hit them in scale and do it in that facility is exciting. We are out of the Smyrna facility at the end of this month. That's Smyrna, Tennessee. Spill Magic will be fully operational, and it's basically there now in Mount Pleasant. As I mentioned too earlier, the automation that we're putting in, it's expensive, it's heavy, and you want to do it once. Now we have a home to be able to place it properly.
Walter Johnsen: Oh, Tim. Yeah. We certainly do. As an example, we spent $6 million to buy the facility in Mount Pleasant, Tennessee for Spill Magic. Spill Magic now has room to grow. For those that may need a refresher, the products that we sell there are used to clean up oily spills, bodily fluids, and blood. The opportunity to create some new products and hit them in scale and do it in that facility is exciting. We are out of the Smyrna facility at the end of this month. That's Smyrna, Tennessee. Spill Magic will be fully operational, and it's basically there now in Mount Pleasant. As I mentioned too earlier, the automation that we're putting in, it's expensive, it's heavy, and you want to do it once. Now we have a home to be able to place it properly.
Speaker #10: Oh, Tim, yeah. We certainly do. As an example, we spent $6 million to buy the facility in Mount Pleasant, Tennessee, for Spill Magic. And Spill Magic now has room to grow.
Speaker #10: And for those that may need a refresher, the products that we sell there are used to clean up oily spills, bodily fluids, and blood.
Speaker #10: And the opportunity to create some new products and hit them in scale and do it in that facility is exciting. We are out of the Smyrna facility at the end of this month.
Speaker #10: That's Smyrna, Tennessee. And so Spill Magic will be fully operational—and it's basically there now—in Mount Pleasant. As I mentioned earlier, the automation that we're putting in is... it's expensive.
Speaker #10: It's heavy, and you want to do it once. And now we have a home to be able to place it properly. I wouldn't say this is a trend, but we've been having very, very good success with Spill Magic since we purchased the property.
Walter C. Johnsen: I wouldn't say this is a trend, but we've been having very good success with Spill Magic since we purchased the property. It's almost like it's willed itself to say, "Hey, we've got room to grow, so let's do it." It is. This past quarter, it was up, I think over... Was it over 30%, Paul? Yes. Yeah. It's a good quarter. It's making progress.
Walter Johnsen: I wouldn't say this is a trend, but we've been having very good success with Spill Magic since we purchased the property. It's almost like it's willed itself to say, "Hey, we've got room to grow, so let's do it." It is. This past quarter, it was up, I think over... Was it over 30%, Paul? Yes. Yeah. It's a good quarter. It's making progress.
Speaker #10: It's almost like it's willed itself to say, "Hey, we've got room to grow, so let's do it." But it is. And this quarter, this past quarter, it was up, I think, over—was it over 30%, Paul?
Speaker #9: Yes.
Speaker #10: Yeah, so it's a good quarter.
Speaker #9: It's making progress.
Tim Call: With these two new acquisitions, your past acquisitions have benefited from cross-selling and your wider geographic footprint. They're getting new retail channels and distribution networks. How long could it take these two recent acquisitions to experience sales growth from these different avenues?
Tim Call: With these two new acquisitions, your past acquisitions have benefited from cross-selling and your wider geographic footprint. They're getting new retail channels and distribution networks. How long could it take these two recent acquisitions to experience sales growth from these different avenues?
Speaker #12: With these two new acquisitions, your past acquisitions have benefited from cross-selling and your wider geographic footprint. They're getting new retail channels and distribution networks.
Speaker #12: How long could it take these two recent acquisitions to experience sales growth from these different avenues?
Walter C. Johnsen: Well, I was just on the phone with First Aid Central, our Canadian subsidiary, literally an hour ago. We were talking about MyMedic and its product line. We would produce them in Canada, meeting Health Canada specifications. We're very excited about launching that way sooner than we expected. The reason is because the name recognition is actually carrying over into Canada, and we had no idea. You've got a name recognition, you've got 500,000 followers, and when we put the products into production in Canada, we're expecting some growth, and that would be happening this year. As an aside, having spoken to our Canadian team literally today, we're about to add another 30% capacity to our operation in Laval, outside of Montreal, and it's because of growth.
Walter Johnsen: Well, I was just on the phone with First Aid Central, our Canadian subsidiary, literally an hour ago. We were talking about MyMedic and its product line. We would produce them in Canada, meeting Health Canada specifications. We're very excited about launching that way sooner than we expected. The reason is because the name recognition is actually carrying over into Canada, and we had no idea. You've got a name recognition, you've got 500,000 followers, and when we put the products into production in Canada, we're expecting some growth, and that would be happening this year. As an aside, having spoken to our Canadian team literally today, we're about to add another 30% capacity to our operation in Laval, outside of Montreal, and it's because of growth.
Speaker #10: Well, I was just on the phone with First Aid Central, our Canadian subsidiary, literally an hour ago. And we were talking about MyMedic and its product line.
Speaker #10: We would produce them in Canada, meaning Health Canada specifications. But we're very excited about launching that way sooner than we expected. The reason is because the name recognition is actually carrying over into Canada.
Speaker #10: And we had no idea. So, you've got name recognition. You've got half a million followers. And when we put the products into production in Canada, we're expecting some growth.
Speaker #10: And that would be happening this year. As an aside, having spoken to our Canadian team literally today, we're about to add another 30% capacity to our operation in Laval, outside of Montreal.
Speaker #10: And it's because of growth.
Tim Call: Well, thank you for all your hard work and success. Looking forward to the long-term growth of the company.
Tim Call: Well, thank you for all your hard work and success. Looking forward to the long-term growth of the company.
Speaker #12: Well, thank you for all your hard work and success. Looking forward to the long-term growth of the company.
Walter C. Johnsen: Thank you very much, Tim.
Walter Johnsen: Thank you very much, Tim.
Speaker #10: Thank you very much, Tim.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Georgie Vishenko with Freedom Broker. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Georgie Vishenko with Freedom Broker. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #11: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Georgie Vashenko with Freedom Broker. Please proceed with your question.
Georgie Vishenko: Thank you. Good afternoon. My question is about cutting and sharpening segment. It was under pressure in 2025. What was the revenue trends in Q1? Did they recover?
Georgie Vishenko: Thank you. Good afternoon. My question is about cutting and sharpening segment. It was under pressure in 2025. What was the revenue trends in Q1? Did they recover?
Speaker #13: Thank you. Good afternoon. My question is about the Cutting and Sharpening segment. It was under pressure in 2025. What were the revenue trends in Q1?
Speaker #13: Did they recover?
Walter C. Johnsen: Yeah. The cutting and sharpening area of last year was impacted when the tariffs were instituted in April. You may remember it was called Liberation Day, and it was 2 April 2025, which is a day I remember. At that point, the tariffs stopped a lot of things that would have been going forward as promotions because you couldn't price product when there were costs as high as 145% in tariffs. The retailers couldn't price. The promotional activity for things in the summer, in the fall, and in the winter were basically stalled. That was one of the reasons that Westcott, in particular, had a decline. Paul, what was the decline last year? It was about 13%.
Walter Johnsen: Yeah. The cutting and sharpening area of last year was impacted when the tariffs were instituted in April. You may remember it was called Liberation Day, and it was 2 April 2025, which is a day I remember. At that point, the tariffs stopped a lot of things that would have been going forward as promotions because you couldn't price product when there were costs as high as 145% in tariffs. The retailers couldn't price. The promotional activity for things in the summer, in the fall, and in the winter were basically stalled. That was one of the reasons that Westcott, in particular, had a decline. Paul, what was the decline last year? It was about 13%.
Speaker #10: Yeah, so the cutting and sharpening area last year was impacted when the tariffs were instituted in April. You may remember it was called Liberation Day.
Speaker #10: And it was April 2nd, which is a day I remember. And at that point, the tariffs stopped. A lot of things that would have been going forward as promotions, because you couldn't price product when there were costs as high as 145% in tariffs.
Speaker #10: The retailers couldn't price. So the promotional activity for things in the summer, in the fall, in the winter were basically stalled. And that was one of the reasons that Westcott in particular was not able to—it had a decline.
Speaker #10: And Paul, what was the decline last year? It was about 13%?
Paul G. Driscoll: It was 10%.
Paul Driscoll: It was 10%.
Walter C. Johnsen: 10%.
Walter Johnsen: 10%.
Speaker #12: It was 10%.
Paul G. Driscoll: Raw decline.
Paul Driscoll: Raw decline.
Walter C. Johnsen: Yeah. Westcott was down about 10%, and that was the promotional activity. In Q1, you're going up against comparables without the tariffs having been put in place, and Westcott was down, what, about 8% or 10%?
Walter Johnsen: Yeah. Westcott was down about 10%, and that was the promotional activity. In Q1, you're going up against comparables without the tariffs having been put in place, and Westcott was down, what, about 8% or 10%?
Speaker #13: 10%. Yeah. So, I mean, Westcott was down about 10%, and that was the promotional activity. So in the first quarter, you're going up against comparables without the tariffs having been put in place.
Speaker #13: And Westcott was down, what, about 8 or 10 percent?
Paul G. Driscoll: This Q1?
Paul Driscoll: This Q1?
Walter C. Johnsen: Yeah.
Walter Johnsen: Yeah.
Speaker #12: This first quarter?
Speaker #10: Yeah.
Paul G. Driscoll: No, I think it was fairly a couple of points, maybe 2%.
Paul Driscoll: No, I think it was fairly a couple of points, maybe 2%.
Speaker #12: No, I think it was fairly a couple of points, maybe 10%.
Walter C. Johnsen: Westcott was down 2%. It's come back, but the big part coming back is really Q2, Q3, Q4, where last year we had no promotions. This year, unless something happens dramatically with the war, we're expecting good promotional activity, and in fact, we're actively quoting. That's a roundabout way of saying, I think we have easy comparisons coming in Q2, Q3, and Q4 for the cutting and tool measuring area, and we should be showing growth.
Walter Johnsen: Westcott was down 2%. It's come back, but the big part coming back is really Q2, Q3, Q4, where last year we had no promotions. This year, unless something happens dramatically with the war, we're expecting good promotional activity, and in fact, we're actively quoting. That's a roundabout way of saying, I think we have easy comparisons coming in Q2, Q3, and Q4 for the cutting and tool measuring area, and we should be showing growth.
Speaker #10: Yeah, Westcott was down 2%. So it's coming back. But the big part coming back is really second, third, fourth quarters, where last year we had no promotions.
Speaker #10: This year, unless something happens dramatically with the war, we're expecting good promotional activity. And in fact, we're actively quoting. So that's a roundabout way of saying I think we have easy comparisons coming in in the second, third, and fourth quarter for the cutting and measuring area.
Speaker #10: And we should be showing growth.
Georgie Vishenko: Thank you.
Georgie Vishenko: Thank you.
Speaker #12: Thank you.
Walter C. Johnsen: It was a good question.
Walter Johnsen: It was a good question.
Speaker #10: It was a good question.
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Jake Patterson: Hey, guys. Just a couple quick ones because most of them got answered already. The SG&A number, I know you said there was like $300,000 of one-time expenses in there. Call it what, like $18.7? Is that kind of a fair run rate to look at for the rest of fiscal 2026? I know you said you had some savings you could pull out of My Medic, but I'm just curious on that.
Jake Patterson: Hey, guys. Just a couple quick ones because most of them got answered already. The SG&A number, I know you said there was like $300,000 of one-time expenses in there. Call it what, like $18.7? Is that kind of a fair run rate to look at for the rest of fiscal 2026? I know you said you had some savings you could pull out of My Medic, but I'm just curious on that.
Speaker #10: Hey, guys. Just a couple quick ones, because most of them got answered already. But the SG&A number—I know you said there was like $300,000 of one-time expenses in there.
Speaker #10: So, call it, what, like $18.7 million? Is that kind of a fair run rate to look at for the rest of fiscal '26? I know you said you had some savings you could pull out of MyMedic, but I'm just curious on that.
Walter C. Johnsen: You're referring to a number of 18.7? No. It's more like 30.
Walter Johnsen: You're referring to a number of 18.7? No. It's more like 30.
Speaker #9: You're referring to a number of 18.7? What? No. It's more like 30.
Jake Patterson: Well, that'd be your $19 minus your $300,000 of consulting.
Jake Patterson: Well, that'd be your $19 minus your $300,000 of consulting.
Speaker #10: Well, that'd be your 19—yeah, 19—minus your $300,000 of consulting expenses. That should go off.
Walter C. Johnsen: Oh, okay.
Walter Johnsen: Oh, okay.
Jake Patterson: Shipment loss.
Jake Patterson: Shipment loss.
Walter C. Johnsen: In terms of percentage, it's probably like 33%.
Walter Johnsen: In terms of percentage, it's probably like 33%.
Speaker #12: Well, in terms of percentage, it's probably like 33%. For the full year, that's like the target—3% of revenue?
Jake Patterson: For a full year, that's like the target 3% of revenue?
Jake Patterson: For a full year, that's like the target 3% of revenue?
Walter C. Johnsen: Yes.
Walter Johnsen: Yes.
Speaker #9: Yes.
Jake Patterson: Okay. Got you. I know you said the gross margin in the legacy business was down. Is there any way you can give a number for that?
Jake Patterson: Okay. Got you. I know you said the gross margin in the legacy business was down. Is there any way you can give a number for that?
Speaker #10: Okay.
Speaker #12: Gotcha. And then I know you said the gross margin in the legacy business was down. Is there any way you can give a number for that?
Walter C. Johnsen: Well, I think we can give you a number. It's probably 2%.
Walter Johnsen: Well, I think we can give you a number. It's probably 2%.
Speaker #12: Or is it?
Speaker #9: Well, I think we can give you a number. It's probably 2%.
Paul G. Driscoll: I would say it's about 200 basis points.
Paul Driscoll: I would say it's about 200 basis points.
Speaker #12: Well, I would say it's about 200 basis points. No, that's really driven by tariffs. Okay.
Jake Patterson: Okay.
Jake Patterson: Okay.
Walter C. Johnsen: That's really driven by tariffs.
Walter Johnsen: That's really driven by tariffs.
Jake Patterson: Okay.
Jake Patterson: Okay.
Walter C. Johnsen: It's just tariffs.
Walter Johnsen: It's just tariffs.
Speaker #10: No, it's just tariffs. And then CapEx for '26—I know you mentioned some automation investments. Canada expansion—I was kind of curious if you guys had any range for CapEx expectations?
Jake Patterson: Yeah. Then CapEx for 2026. I know you mentioned some automation investments, Canada expansion. I was kind of curious if you guys had any range for CapEx expectations.
Jake Patterson: Yeah. Then CapEx for 2026. I know you mentioned some automation investments, Canada expansion. I was kind of curious if you guys had any range for CapEx expectations.
Walter C. Johnsen: I think we're looking at about six.
Walter Johnsen: I think we're looking at about six.
Speaker #9: I think we're looking at about $6 million, probably $7 million.
Paul G. Driscoll: Probably $7 million.
Paul Driscoll: Probably $7 million.
Jake Patterson: Okay. Cool. Thanks. That's it for me.
Jake Patterson: Okay. Cool. Thanks. That's it for me.
Speaker #10: Okay.
Speaker #12: Cool. Thanks. That's it for me.
Walter C. Johnsen: Okay. Thank you, Jake.
Walter Johnsen: Okay. Thank you, Jake.
Speaker #9: Okay.
Speaker #10: Thank you, Jake.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Johnson for any final comments.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Johnson for any final comments.
Speaker #11: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Johnsen for any final comments.
Walter C. Johnsen: like to thank the audience for asking some very probing questions. Having hopefully given some very thoughtful answers, this call is complete, and I'd like to thank you for joining us. Goodbye.
Walter Johnsen: like to thank the audience for asking some very probing questions. Having hopefully given some very thoughtful answers, this call is complete, and I'd like to thank you for joining us. Goodbye.
Speaker #10: I'd like to thank the audience for asking some very probing questions. Having hopefully given some very thoughtful answers, this call is complete. And I'd like to thank you for joining us.
Speaker #10: Goodbye.
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