Q1 2026 TPG Mortgage Investment Trust Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #2: Please stand by. Your meeting is about to begin. Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the TPG Mortgage Investment Trust, Inc. First quarter 2026 earnings conference call.

Operator: Good day, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the TPG Mortgage Investment Trust, Inc. Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After management's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. In order to ask a question during the session, please press the star key followed by one on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance please press star then zero. I'd now like to turn the call over to Jenny Neslin, General Counsel for the company. Please go ahead.

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Operator 2: Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Jenny Neslin, General Counsel for the company. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: General counsel for the company, please go ahead. Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the first quarter 2026 earnings call for TPG Mortgage Investment Trust.

Jenny Neslin: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Q1 2026 earnings call for AG Mortgage Investment Trust, Inc.. With me on the call today are T.J. Durkin, our CEO and President, Nicholas Smith, our Chief Investment Officer, and Anthony Rossiello, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, please note that the information discussed in today's call may contain forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which are outlined in our SEC filings, including under the headings cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements, risk factors, and management's discussion and analysis. The company's actual results may differ materially from these statements.

Jenny Neslin: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Q1 2026 earnings call for AG Mortgage Investment Trust, Inc.. With me on the call today are T.J. Durkin, our CEO and President, Nicholas Smith, our Chief Investment Officer, and Anthony Rossiello, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, please note that the information discussed in today's call may contain forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: With me on the call today are TJ Durkin, our CEO and President; Nick Smith, our Chief Investment Officer; and Anthony Rossiello, our Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker #2: Before we begin, please note that the information discussed in today's call may contain forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to certain risks and uncertainties which are outlined in our SEC filings, including under the headings cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements, risk factors, and management's discussion and analysis.

Jenny Neslin: Any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which are outlined in our SEC filings, including under the headings cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements, risk factors, and management's discussion and analysis. The company's actual results may differ materially from these statements.

Speaker #2: The company's actual results may differ materially from these statements. We encourage you to read the disclosure regarding forward-looking statements contained in our SEC filings, including our most recently filed Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, and our subsequent reports filed from time to time with the SEC.

Jenny Neslin: We encourage you to read the disclosure regarding forward-looking statements contained in our SEC filings, including our most recently filed Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, and our subsequent reports filed from time to time with the SEC. Except as required by law, we are not obligated and do not intend to update or to review or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. During the call today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our SEC filings for reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures. We will also reference the earnings presentation that was posted to our website this morning. To view the slide presentation, turn to our website www.mitt.tpg.com and click on the link for the Q1 2026 earnings presentation on the homepage.

Jenny Neslin: We encourage you to read the disclosure regarding forward-looking statements contained in our SEC filings, including our most recently filed Form 10-K for the year ended 31st December 2025, and our subsequent reports filed from time to time with the SEC. Except as required by law, we are not obligated and do not intend to update or to review or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

Speaker #2: Except as required by law, we are not obligated and do not intend to update or to review or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

Speaker #2: During the call today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our SEC filings for reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures.

Jenny Neslin: During the call today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our SEC filings for reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures. We will also reference the earnings presentation that was posted to our website this morning. To view the slide presentation, turn to our website www.mitt.tpg.com and click on the link for the Q1 2026 earnings presentation on the homepage. Again, welcome to the call and thank you for joining us today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to T.J.

Speaker #2: We will also reference the earnings presentation that was posted to our website this morning. To view the slide presentation, turn to our website www.mitt.tpg.com and click on the link for the Q1 2026 earnings presentation on the homepage.

Speaker #2: Again, welcome to the call, and thank you for joining us today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to TJ.

Jenny Neslin: Again, welcome to the call and thank you for joining us today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to T.J.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Jenny. And good morning, everyone. During the first quarter, we experienced a familiar dynamic. In the beginning of the quarter, the company benefited from additional moderation of interest rate volatility, lower rates, and strong residential credit fundamentals, along with increased demand for risk across the entire non-agency capital stack from investors.

T.J. Durkin: Thank you, Jenny. Good morning, everyone. During Q1, we experienced a familiar dynamic. In the beginning of the quarter, the company benefited from additional moderation of interest rate volatility, lower rates, and strong residential credit fundamentals, along with increased demand for risk across the entire non-agency capital stack from investors. However, these favorable conditions abruptly unwound in March following the escalation of the conflict in the Middle East, weighing on asset valuations broadly. Despite the challenging macro backdrop that put pressure on MITT's book value for Q1, declining from $10.48 to $9.97, we maintained a disciplined leverage profile and remained focused on executing our core strategy of rotating capital into higher returning residential credit strategies and scaling profitability at Arc Home.

T.J. Durkin: Thank you, Jenny. Good morning, everyone. During Q1, we experienced a familiar dynamic. In the beginning of the quarter, the company benefited from additional moderation of interest rate volatility, lower rates, and strong residential credit fundamentals, along with increased demand for risk across the entire non-agency capital stack from investors.

Speaker #3: However, these favorable conditions abruptly unwound in March following the escalation of the conflict in the Middle East weighing on asset valuations broadly. Despite the challenging macro backdrop that put pressure on Mitt's book value for the first quarter, declining from $10.48 to $9.97, we maintained a disciplined leverage profile and remained focused on executing our core strategy of rotating capital into higher-returning residential credit strategies and scaling profitability at our home.

T.J. Durkin: However, these favourable conditions abruptly unwound in March following the escalation of the conflict in the Middle East, weighing on asset valuations broadly. Despite the challenging macro backdrop that put pressure on MITT's book value for Q1, declining from $10.48-$9.97, we maintained a disciplined leverage profile and remained focused on executing our core strategy of rotating capital into higher returning residential credit strategies and scaling profitability at Arc Home.

Speaker #3: These efforts produced EAD of 26 cents for the first quarter, more than covering our most recently declared dividend of 24 cents. Further, we'd like to note that although it's too early in our process to comment on April book value, we believe we have already recovered at least 50% of the previous quarter's unrealized book value decline.

T.J. Durkin: These efforts produced EAD of $0.26 for Q1, more than covering our most recently declared dividend of $0.24. Further, we'd like to note that although it's too early in our process to comment on April book value, we believe we have already recovered at least 50% of the previous quarter's unrealized book value decline. Before turning the call to Nicholas Smith to go into more details, I would reiterate that we have consistently executed our previously stated objectives and believe we have clear line of sight into more powerful ROEs and EAD as we look ahead into 2026. We have been able to raise our dividend in 4 of the last 6 quarters as we continue executing on our stated objectives discussed on our last quarter's call. Look forward to continuing to share our progress in the coming quarters.

T.J. Durkin: These efforts produced EAD of $0.26 for Q1, more than covering our most recently declared dividend of $0.24. Further, we'd like to note that although it's too early in our process to comment on April book value, we believe we have already recovered at least 50% of the previous quarter's unrealized book value decline.

Speaker #3: Before turning the call to Nick to go into more details, I would reiterate that we have consistently executed on our previously stated objectives and believe we have clear line of sight into more powerful ROEs and EAD as we look ahead into 2026.

T.J. Durkin: Before turning the call to Nicholas Smith to go into more details, I would reiterate that we have consistently executed our previously stated objectives and believe we have clear line of sight into more powerful ROEs and EAD as we look ahead into 2026. We have been able to raise our dividend in four of the last six quarters as we continue executing on our stated objectives discussed on our last quarter's call. Look forward to continuing to share our progress in the coming quarters. I'll now turn the call over to Nicholas.

Speaker #3: We have been able to raise our dividend in four of the last six quarters as we continue executing on our stated objectives discussed on our last quarter's call.

Speaker #3: We look forward to continuing to share our progress in the coming quarters. I'll now turn the call over to Nick.

T.J. Durkin: I'll now turn the call over to Nick.

Speaker #4: Thanks, TJ. And thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We ended the first quarter with an investment portfolio of 8.1 billion. Our activity remained focused on home equity, a non-agency credit where we continue to see attractive risk-adjusted returns, and strong structural demand.

Nicholas Smith: Thanks, TJ. Thank you everyone for joining us today. We ended the Q1 with an investment portfolio of $8.1 billion. Our activity remained focused on home equity and non-agency credit, where we continue to see attractive risk-adjusted returns and strong structural demand. We securitized approximately $500 million of home equity loans, building on a partnership formed with a market-leading home equity originator a few years ago. Home equity remains core to our strategy, and we believe this segment will provide the company compelling opportunities as this residential housing segment continues to grow. In addition to this transaction, we executed another securitization subsequent to quarter end, comprised of approximately $430 million non-agency residential mortgage loans. Importantly, we maintained our disciplined leverage profile. The company's economic leverage stands at a conservative 1.7 turns.

Nicholas Smith: Thanks, TJ. Thank you everyone for joining us today. We ended the Q1 with an investment portfolio of $8.1 billion. Our activity remained focused on home equity and non-agency credit, where we continue to see attractive risk-adjusted returns and strong structural demand. We securitized approximately $500 million of home equity loans, building on a partnership formed with a market-leading home equity originator a few years ago.

Speaker #4: We securitized approximately $500 million of home equity loans, building on a partnership formed with a market-leading home equity originator a few years ago. Home equity remains core to our strategy, and we believe this segment will provide the company compelling opportunities as this residential housing segment continues to grow.

Nicholas Smith: Home equity remains core to our strategy, and we believe this segment will provide the company compelling opportunities as this residential housing segment continues to grow. In addition to this transaction, we executed another securitization subsequent to quarter end, comprised of approximately $430 million non-agency residential mortgage loans. Importantly, we maintained our disciplined leverage profile. The company's economic leverage stands at a conservative 1.7 turns.

Speaker #4: In addition to this transaction, we executed another securitization subsequent to quarter end, comprised of approximately $430 million non-agency residential mortgage loans. Importantly, we maintained our disciplined leverage profile.

Speaker #4: The company's economic leverage stands at a conservative 1.7 turns. While we have been able to grow earnings at these leverage ratios, we believe we can prudently move this up over time to drive additional earnings power.

Nicholas Smith: While we have been able to grow earnings at these leverage ratios, we believe we can prudently move this up over time to drive additional earnings power. The credit performance of the company's residential portfolio continues to be a core strength. Serious delinquencies in our non-agency portfolio stand at just 1.3%, while our home equity portfolio is even lower at 0.4%. The portfolio is comprised of high-quality borrowers with significant equity in their homes. On average, the non-agency and home equity portfolios have a low 60% loan to value. On the commercial side, we are seeing positive momentum as we manage our legacy WMC commercial holdings toward exit. We are focused on de-risking these positions, which will further free up equity for redeployment in our core strategies, higher returning residential. Moving on to ArcHome. ArcHome has reached a clear inflection point.

Nicholas Smith: While we have been able to grow earnings at these leverage ratios, we believe we can prudently move this up over time to drive additional earnings power. The credit performance of the company's residential portfolio continues to be a core strength. Serious delinquencies in our non-agency portfolio stand at just 1.3%, while our home equity portfolio is even lower at 0.4%. The portfolio is comprised of high-quality borrowers with significant equity in their homes.

Speaker #4: The credit performance of the company's residential portfolio continues to be a core strength. Serious delinquencies in our non-agency portfolio stand at just 1.3%, while our home equity portfolio is even lower at 0.4%.

Speaker #4: The portfolio is comprised of high-quality borrowers with significant equity in their homes. On average, the non-agency and home equity portfolios have a low 60% loan-to-value.

Nicholas Smith: On average, the non-agency and home equity portfolios have a low 60% loan-to-value. On the commercial side, we are seeing positive momentum as we manage our legacy WMC commercial holdings toward exit. We are focused on de-risking these positions, which will further free up equity for redeployment in our core strategies, higher returning residential. Moving on to ArcHome. ArcHome has reached a clear inflection point.

Speaker #4: On the commercial side, we are seeing positive momentum as we manage our legacy WMC commercial holdings toward exit. We are focused on de-risking these positions, which will further free up equity for redeployment in our core strategies.

Speaker #4: Higher-returning residential. Moving on to our home. Our home has reached a clear inflection point. Despite the macroeconomic headwinds this quarter, our home delivered a meaningful contribution to our EAD of approximately 4 cents per share.

Nicholas Smith: Despite the macroeconomic headwinds this quarter, Arc Home delivered a meaningful contribution to our EAD of approximately $0.04 per share. We saw continued strength in lock volumes of $1.3 billion, a 25% increase year over year, driven by strong non-agency originations. Our decision to increase ownership stake to 66% is starting to pay off as the platform gains market share and improves gain on sale margins. Before handing the call over to Anthony, I'd like to close with some thoughts around our strategy and the macro outlook. We entered the Q2 with significant momentum. While market volatility impacted our book value this period, we see a path to recovery. Since quarter end, we observed an improving, though admittedly fragile, macroeconomic environment.

Nicholas Smith: Despite the macroeconomic headwinds this quarter, Arc Home delivered a meaningful contribution to our EAD of approximately $0.04 per share. We saw continued strength in lock volumes of $1.3 billion, a 25% increase year-over-year, driven by strong non-agency originations. Our decision to increase ownership stake to 66% is starting to pay off as the platform gains market share and improves gain on sale margins.

Speaker #4: We continue we saw continued strength in lock volumes of 1.3 billion, a 25% increase year over year. Driven by strong non-agency originations. Our decision to increase ownership stake to 66% is starting to pay off as the platform gains market share and improves gain on sale margins.

Speaker #4: We're handing the call over to Anthony, who I'd like to close with some thoughts around our strategy and the macro outlook. We entered the second quarter with significant momentum.

Nicholas Smith: Before handing the call over to Anthony, I'd like to close with some thoughts around our strategy and the macro outlook. We entered the Q2 with significant momentum. While market volatility impacted our book value this period, we see a path to recovery. Since quarter end, we observed an improving, though admittedly fragile, macroeconomic environment.

Speaker #4: While market volatility impacted our book value this period, we see a path to recovery. Since quarter end, we observed an improving though admittedly fragile macroeconomic environment.

Speaker #4: If this continues, we expect a return to trends we saw in the earlier parts of this year and believe this environment is likely to lead the market to revisit the tights of the year which would reverse much if not all of the book value decline we saw in Q1.

Nicholas Smith: If this continues, we expect a return to trends we saw in the earlier parts of this year and believe this environment is likely to lead the market to revisit the types of the year, which would reverse much, if not all, of the book value decline we saw in Q1. As TJ mentioned in his remarks, at this point, we believe we've already recovered at least 50%. We are well-positioned to navigate this volatility and continue to grow earnings while delivering superior risk-adjusted returns. Anthony, over to you.

Nicholas Smith: If this continues, we expect a return to trends we saw in the earlier parts of this year and believe this environment is likely to lead the market to revisit the types of the year, which would reverse much, if not all, of the book value decline we saw in Q1. As T.J. mentioned in his remarks, at this point, we believe we've already recovered at least 50%. We are well-positioned to navigate this volatility and continue to grow earnings while delivering superior risk-adjusted returns. Anthony, over to you.

Speaker #4: The TJ mentioned in his remarks at this point, we believe we've already recovered at least 50%. We are well positioned to navigate this volatility and continue to grow earnings while delivering superior risk-adjusted returns.

Speaker #4: Anthony, over to you.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. During the first quarter, we continued to focus on rotating capital into our home equity portfolio. We successfully executed one home equity loan securitization and maintained our momentum in the securitization markets with an additional deal in April.

Anthony Rossiello: Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. During Q1, we continued to focus on rotating capital into our home equity portfolio. We successfully executed 1 home equity loan securitization and maintained our momentum in the securitization markets with an additional deal in April. Most importantly, we realized continued strength in our Earnings Available for Distribution, or EAD. This performance was supported by earnings growth at Arc Home, despite a volatile quarter, which resulted in our EAD once again exceeding our increased dividend level. Reflecting this ongoing improvement in earnings, we announced our 4th dividend increase since the beginning of 2025, raising our quarterly dividend to $0.24 per share. Moving to our financial results, book value decreased 4.9% to $9.97 per share, resulting in a -2.6% economic return when considering our $0.24 dividend.

Anthony Rossiello: Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. During Q1, we continued to focus on rotating capital into our home equity portfolio. We successfully executed one home equity loan securitization and maintained our momentum in the securitization markets with an additional deal in April. Most importantly, we realized continued strength in our Earnings Available for Distribution, or EAD.

Speaker #3: Most importantly, we realized continued strength in our earnings available for distribution or EAD. This performance was supported by earnings growth at our home despite a volatile quarter, which resulted in our EAD once again exceeding our increased dividend level.

Anthony Rossiello: This performance was supported by earnings growth at Arc Home, despite a volatile quarter, which resulted in our EAD once again exceeding our increased dividend level. Reflecting this ongoing improvement in earnings, we announced our fourth dividend increase since the beginning of 2025, raising our quarterly dividend to $0.24 per share. Moving to our financial results, book value decreased 4.9% to $9.97 per share, resulting in a -2.6% economic return when considering our $0.24 dividend.

Speaker #3: Reflecting this ongoing improvement in earnings, we announced our fourth dividend increase since the beginning of 2025, raising our quarterly dividend to $0.24 per share.

Speaker #3: Moving to our financial results, book value decreased 4.9% to $9.97 per share, resulting in a negative 2.6% economic return when considering our 24-cent dividend.

Speaker #3: We reported a gap net loss of approximately 8.7 million or 27 cents per share, entirely driven by net unrealized losses on our investment portfolio which were partially offset by gains on our hedge portfolio and investment in our home.

Anthony Rossiello: We reported a GAAP net loss of approximately $8.7 million, or $0.27 per share, entirely driven by net unrealized losses on our investment portfolio, which were partially offset by gains on our hedge portfolio and investment in Arc Home. Overall, these unrealized losses reflect the March macroeconomic volatility, which drove rates higher and caused spreads to widen. Despite these unrealized losses, which have begun to retrace in April, the company's operating performance remained strong, delivering durable net interest income, earnings growth at Arc Home, and a controlled expense load, all of which supported our increased dividend and demonstrate the embedded value of our strategy. Specifically, EAD of $0.26 per share increased from the prior quarter and fully covered our $0.24 dividend.

Anthony Rossiello: We reported a GAAP net loss of approximately $8.7 million, or $0.27 per share, entirely driven by net unrealized losses on our investment portfolio, which were partially offset by gains on our hedge portfolio and investment in Arc Home. Overall, these unrealized losses reflect the March macroeconomic volatility, which drove rates higher and caused spreads to widen.

Speaker #3: Overall, these unrealized losses reflect the March macroeconomic volatility which drove rates higher and caused spreads to widen. Despite these unrealized losses which have begun to retrace in April, the company's operating performance remains strong.

Anthony Rossiello: Despite these unrealized losses, which have begun to retrace in April, the company's operating performance remained strong, delivering durable net interest income, earnings growth at Arc Home, and a controlled expense load, all of which supported our increased dividend and demonstrate the embedded value of our strategy. Specifically, EAD of $0.26 per share increased from the prior quarter and fully covered our $0.24 dividend.

Speaker #3: Delivering durable net interest income, earnings growth at our home, and a controlled expense load all of which supported our increased dividend and demonstrate the embedded value of our strategy.

Speaker #3: Specifically, EAD of 26 cents per share increased from the prior quarter and fully covered our 24-cent dividend. Net interest income, including hedge income, was 67 cents, which exceeded 45 cents of operating expenses and preferred dividends to generate net earnings of 22 cents per share.

Anthony Rossiello: Net interest income, including hedge income, was $0.67, which exceeded $0.45 of operating expenses and preferred dividends to generate net earnings of $0.22 per share. ArcHome contributed an additional $0.04 to EAD, driven by continued strength in origination volumes and improved gain on sale margins. While the performance of our investment portfolio and ArcHome delivered a double-digit ROE on book value, we see meaningful upside as we optimize the balance sheet. Specifically, the deployment of liquidity from unlevered home equity loans and the resolution of non-accrual commercial loans represent clear catalysts to deploy capital into higher-yielding residential investments, further enhancing shareholder returns. Lastly, we ended the quarter with approximately $100 million in total liquidity, consisting of $49 million in cash, $50 million of committed financing on unlevered home equity loans, and $1 million of unencumbered agency RMBS.

Anthony Rossiello: Net interest income, including hedge income, was $0.67, which exceeded $0.45 of operating expenses and preferred dividends to generate net earnings of $0.22 per share. ArcHome contributed an additional $0.04 to EAD, driven by continued strength in origination volumes and improved gain on sale margins. While the performance of our investment portfolio and ArcHome delivered a double-digit ROE on book value, we see meaningful upside as we optimize the balance sheet.

Speaker #3: Our home contributed an additional 4 cents to EAD driven by continued strength in origination volumes and improved gain on sale margins. While the performance of our investment portfolio and our home delivered a double-digit ROE on book value, we see meaningful upside as we optimize the balance sheet.

Speaker #3: Specifically, the deployment of liquidity from unlevered home equity loans and the resolution of non-accrual commercial loans represent clear catalysts to deploy capital into higher-yielding residential investments further enhancing shareholder returns.

Anthony Rossiello: Specifically, the deployment of liquidity from unlevered home equity loans and the resolution of non-accrual commercial loans represent clear catalysts to deploy capital into higher-yielding residential investments, further enhancing shareholder returns. Lastly, we ended the quarter with approximately $100 million in total liquidity, consisting of $49 million in cash, $50 million of committed financing on unlevered home equity loans, and $1 million of unencumbered agency RMBS. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we'd now like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Speaker #3: Lastly, we ended the quarter with approximately 100 million in total liquidity consisting of 49 million in cash, 50 million of committed financing on unlevered home equity loans, and 1 million of unencumbered agency RMBS.

Speaker #3: This concludes our prepared remarks, and we would now like to open the call for questions. Operator.

Anthony Rossiello: This concludes our prepared remarks, and we'd now like to open the call for questions. Operator?

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Speaker #2: Thanks. Can you talk about your thoughts on increased continuing to increase the dividend versus some ability to retain some capital just given your commentary that you expect further upside in earnings power?

Douglas Harter: Thanks. Can you talk about your, you know, your thoughts on, you know, continuing to increase the dividend versus, you know, some ability to retain some capital, just given your commentary that you expect, you know, further upside in earnings power?

Douglas Harter: Thanks. Can you talk about your, you know, your thoughts on, you know, continuing to increase the dividend versus, you know, some ability to retain some capital, just given your commentary that you expect, you know, further upside in earnings power?

Speaker #3: Yeah, Doug. It's TJ. Good to hear from you. I think we're running fairly conservative economic leverage. So in terms of having access to liquidity for margin call risk, I think we've done a good job of alleviating a cash drag.

T.J. Durkin: Yeah, Doug, it's T.J. Good to hear from you. I think we're running, you know, fairly conservative economic leverage, so in terms of, you know, having excess liquidity.

T.J. Durkin: Yeah, Doug, it's T.J. Good to hear from you. I think we're running, you know, fairly conservative economic leverage, so in terms of, you know, having excess liquidity.

T.J. Durkin: You know, margin call risk, I think we've done a good job of alleviating a cash drag. As we think about growing earnings power, it's, you know, continuing to rotate the equity out of the CRE loans, which I'm happy to talk about, and then, you know, other capital rotation from, you know, potentially calling seasoned deals, et cetera. I mean, I think we see a pretty linear path of how to rotate capital without needing to re-reserve a ton for other purposes.

T.J. Durkin: You know, margin call risk, I think we've done a good job of alleviating a cash drag. As we think about growing earnings power, it's, you know, continuing to rotate the equity out of the CRE loans, which I'm happy to talk about, and then, you know, other capital rotation from, you know, potentially calling seasoned deals, et cetera. I mean, I think we see a pretty linear path of how to rotate capital without needing to re-reserve a tonne for other purposes.

Speaker #3: And then as we think about growing earnings power, it's continuing to rotate the equity out of the CRE loans which I'm happy to talk about.

Speaker #3: And then other capital rotation from potentially calling season deals, etc. So I mean, I think we see a pretty linear path of how to rotate capital without needing to reserve a ton for other purposes.

Speaker #2: Right. I mean, you're right. But I guess just as you think about that increased earnings power, how do you think about how much of that kind of gets passed through to the dividend versus how much of that could be retained for to support future growth?

Douglas Harter: Right. I mean, you're right. I guess just as you think about that increased earnings power, how do you think about how much of that kind of gets passed through the dividend versus how much of that could be retained to support future growth?

Douglas Harter: Right. I mean, you're right. I guess just as you think about that increased earnings power, how do you think about how much of that kind of gets passed through the dividend versus how much of that could be retained to support future growth?

T.J. Durkin: I mean, I think we're looking to, you know, continue to pass that through to our shareholders in the form of the dividend and then satisfy all the retests.

Speaker #3: I mean, I think we're looking to continue to pass that through to our shareholders in the form of the dividend and satisfy all the retests.

T.J. Durkin: I mean, I think we're looking to, you know, continue to pass that through to our shareholders in the form of the dividend and then satisfy all the retests.

Speaker #3: So I.

Speaker #2: Great. Appreciate that. And TJ, if I could take you up on your offer to kind of talk a little bit more about the CRE loans and kind of how we should think about the timing of resolution there and freeing up that capital.

Douglas Harter: Great. Appreciate that. And TJ, if I could take you up on your offer to kind of talk a little bit more about the CRE loans, and, you know, kind of how we should think about the timing of resolution there, and, you know, freeing up that capital.

Douglas Harter: Great. Appreciate that. And TJ, if I could take you up on your offer to kind of talk a little bit more about the C.R.E. loans, and, you know, kind of how we should think about the timing of resolution there, and, you know, freeing up that capital.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So I think big picture we're making good progress on the remaining assets. It's taking longer than any of us would like. I think this is evidenced the progress is evidenced.

T.J. Durkin: Yeah. I think big picture, we're making good progress on the remaining assets. It's, you know, taking longer than any of us would like. I think the progress is evidenced. We've been able to extend our facility with our lender out 6 months, so we have clean financing through September this year. From an asset perspective, I really, you know, sort of break it up into 3 distinct situations. The retail asset sale process is moving along nicely. We would hope to have much more detailed information to share with you on next quarter's call. 2 of the 4 hotel assets have assigned LOI, and we're progressing accordingly, albeit behind probably where the retail asset process is.

T.J. Durkin: Yeah. I think big picture, we're making good progress on the remaining assets. It's, you know, taking longer than any of us would like. I think the progress is evidenced. We've been able to extend our facility with our lender out six months, so we have clean financing through September this year. From an asset perspective, I really, you know, sort of break it up into three distinct situations.

Speaker #3: We've been able to extend our facility with our lender out six months. So we have clean financing through September of this this year. From an asset perspective, I would really sort of break it up into three distinct situations.

Speaker #3: The retail asset sale process is moving along nicely. We would hope to have much more detailed information to share with you on next quarter's call.

T.J. Durkin: The retail asset sale process is moving along nicely. We would hope to have much more detailed information to share with you on next quarter's call. Two of the four hotel assets have assigned LOI, and we're progressing accordingly, albeit behind probably where the retail asset process is.I think the last two hotel assets are going to, you know, be behind that and take a bit longer. We're, we're working, you know, through those locations and hope to have them sort of wrapped up by the end of this year, but it may drift into 2027 for the last two.

Speaker #3: And then two of the four hotel assets have a signed LOI. And we're progressing accordingly albeit behind probably where the retail asset process is.

Speaker #3: And then I think the last two hotel assets are going to be behind that and take a bit longer. And we're working through those locations and hope to have them sort of wrapped up by the end of this year.

T.J. Durkin: I think the last two hotel assets are gonna, you know, be behind that and take a bit longer. We're, we're working, you know, through those locations and hope to have them sort of wrapped up by the end of this year, but it may drift into 2027 for the last two.

Speaker #3: But it may drift into 27 for the last two.

Speaker #2: Great. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Douglas Harter: Great. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Douglas Harter: Great. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We'll move next to Marissa Lobo with UBS, your line is open.

Operator 2: Thank you. We'll move next to Marissa Lobo with UBS. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. We'll move next to Marissa Lobo with UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: Thank you. Good morning. I'd like to give us some more information on Mitsubishi Exercise call ride. How much of that time retard remains to be executed?

Marissa Lobo: Thank you. Good morning. Could you give us some more information on mid-stability exercise call ride, much of that remaining power remains to be executed. You know, how do you feel about the current rate?

Marissa Lobo: Thank you. Good morning. Could you give us some more information on mid-stability exercise call ride, much of that remaining power remains to be executed. You know, how do you feel about the current rate?

Speaker #4: How do you feel about the current rate?

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Marissa. As we've stated in previous prepared remarks and Q&A historically, a lot of that has to do with outright levels of spreads and interest rates. Obviously, over the last quarter, we saw a retracement to higher rates, higher volatility, higher spreads. Into the beginning of this quarter, obviously, we've gotten a good amount of that back, maybe not completely in the front of the curve. All these elements play into what, you know, the economics on calling transactions. You know, we're not going to hold out for every last penny, but we'll look for stabilization of the market, which is happening pretty quickly. You know, hopefully we have good news in the coming quarters on actually executing on them and then sort of the path forward from there.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Marissa. As we've stated in previous prepared remarks and Q&A historically, a lot of that has to do with outright levels of spreads and interest rates. Obviously, over the last quarter, we saw a retracement to higher rates, higher volatility, higher spreads. Into the beginning of this quarter, obviously, we've gotten a good amount of that back, maybe not completely in the front of the curve.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So thanks for the question, Marissa. So as we've stated in previous prepared remarks and Q&A historically, a lot of that has to do with outright levels of spreads and interest rates.

Speaker #3: Obviously, over the last quarter, we saw retracement to a higher rates, higher volatility, higher spreads. Into the beginning of this quarter, obviously, we've gotten a good amount of that back.

Speaker #3: Maybe not completely in the front end of the curve. All of these elements play into what the economics on calling transactions. We're not going to hold out for every last penny.

Nicholas Smith: All these elements play into what, you know, the economics on calling transactions. You know, we're not going to hold out for every last penny, but we'll look for stabilization of the market, which is happening pretty quickly. You know, hopefully we have good news in the coming quarters on actually executing on them and then sort of the path forward from there. If that answers your question.

Speaker #3: But we'll look for stabilization of the market, which is happening pretty quickly. So hopefully, we have good news in the coming quarters. On actually executing on them and then sort of the path forward from there, if that answers your question.

Nicholas Smith: If that answers your question.

Speaker #4: It does. Thank you. And could you also expand on the opportunity and agency eligible loans? What is your outlook there for volume and aggregations in the near term?

Marissa Lobo: It does. Thank you. Could you also expand on the opportunity in agency-eligible loans? You know, what is your outlook there for volume and aggregation in the near term?

Marissa Lobo: It does. Thank you. Could you also expound on the opportunity in agency-eligible loans? You know, what is your outlook there for volume and aggregation in the near term?

Speaker #3: I mean, on the agency eligible side, we've done a decent amount of this issuance in previous years, previous quarters. A lot of our focus has really been more on higher returning opportunities in the non-agency and home equity space.

Nicholas Smith: I mean, on the agency-eligible side, we've done a decent amount of this issuance in previous years, previous quarters. You know, a lot of our focus has really been more on higher returning opportunities in the non-agency and home equity space. There's still compelling opportunities, although less compelling in our, in our view. You know, there have been new market participants that have entered that space with lower cost of capital, which maybe makes it a little bit less interesting to ourselves. That being said, I do expect to see others continue to grow and participate in that market, marketplace.

Nicholas Smith: I mean, on the agency-eligible side, we've done a decent amount of this issuance in previous years, previous quarters. You know, a lot of our focus has really been more on higher returning opportunities in the non-agency and home equity space. There's still compelling opportunities, although less compelling in our, in our view. You know, there have been new market participants that have entered that space with lower cost of capital, which maybe makes it a little bit less interesting to ourselves. That being said, I do expect to see others continue to grow and participate in that market, marketplace.

Speaker #3: There's still compelling opportunities, although less compelling in our view. There have been new market participants that have entered that space with lower cost of capital, which maybe makes it a little bit less interesting.

Speaker #3: To ourselves, that being said, I do expect to see others continue to grow and participate in that marketplace.

Speaker #4: Thank you. Appreciate the caller.

Marissa Lobo: Thank you. Appreciate the color.

Marissa Lobo: Thank you. Appreciate the color.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We'll move on now to Crispin Love with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Operator 2: Thank you. We'll move on now to Crispin Love with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. We'll move on now to Crispin Love with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Thank you. Good morning. I have a follow-up on earnings power and ROEs. You're generating, I think, roughly 10% core ROEs today. I'm curious, where do you think that could trend?

Crispin Love: Thank you. Good morning. I have a follow-up on earnings power and ROEs. You're generating, I think roughly 10% core ROEs today. I'm curious where you think that could trend, what ROE targets are attainable and over what timeframe as Arc continues to be a larger contributor to EAD and as you rotate capital into higher returning resi investments as the WMC investments mature.

Crispin Love: Thank you. Good morning. I have a follow-up on earnings power and ROEs. You're generating, I think roughly 10% core ROEs today. I'm curious where you think that could trend, what ROE targets are attainable and over what timeframe as Arc continues to be a larger contributor to EAD and as you rotate capital into higher returning resi investments as the WMC investments mature.

Speaker #5: What ROE targets are attainable and over what timeframe as our continues to be a larger contributor to EAD? And as you rotate capital into higher returning resi investments as the WMC investments mature?

Speaker #3: Yeah. So if you thanks for the question. And thanks for dialing in. So this is Nick. When you think about growing the ROE of the company, it's going to be derived from three primary sources, which we've said over previous quarters.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah, thanks for the question and thanks for dialing in. This is Nicholas Smith. When you think about, you know, growing the ROE of the company, it's going to be derived from three primary sources, which we've, you know, said over previous quarters, really, you know, the returning of equity capital in the commercial book, growing ROEs at Arc Home, and then the calls. All of that gives us line of sight into sort of achieving the ROEs that are being achieved across the broader business as we just have disclosed in the earning presentation. That's really the path forward, is really just taking those pockets and redeploying capital.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah, thanks for the question and thanks for dialing in. This is Nicholas Smith. When you think about, you know, growing the ROE of the company, it's going to be derived from three primary sources, which we've, you know, said over previous quarters, really, you know, the returning of equity capital in the commercial book, growing ROEs at Arc Home, and then the calls.

Speaker #3: Really, the returning of equity capital in the commercial book, growing ROEs at our home, and then the calls. All of that gives us line of sight into sort of achieving the ROEs that are being achieved across the broader business as we have disclosed in the earning presentation.

Nicholas Smith: All of that gives us line of sight into sort of achieving the ROEs that are being achieved across the broader business as we just have disclosed in the earning presentation. That's really the path forward, is really just taking those pockets and redeploying capital. Obviously, in the Arc Home side, that's less of a redeployment story. We believe that there's strong momentum there, and we expect that to continue.

Speaker #3: And that's really the path towards is really just taking those pockets and redeploying capital. Obviously, in our home side, that's less of a redeployment.

Nicholas Smith: Obviously, in the Arc Home side, that's less of a redeployment story. We believe that there's strong momentum there, and we expect that to continue.

Speaker #3: Story. But we believe that they're strong momentum there. And we expect that to continue.

Speaker #2: Okay. Great. And then just on our home, can you discuss a little bit what you've seen so far in the second quarter? Just high-level trends, volumes, kind of mortgage rates peaked.

Crispin Love: Okay. Great. Just on Arc Home, can you discuss a little bit what you've seen so far in Q2? Just high-level trends, volumes, kind of mortgage rates. Mortgage rates peaked around quarter-end, have improved since, improved a bit since then. Getting into a little bit of a seasonally more conducive environment for mortgage, but still a little bit of a challenging backdrop. Just curious where you stand right now on Arc Home and trends you're seeing.

Crispin Love: Okay. Great. Just on Arc Home, can you discuss a little bit what you've seen so far in Q2? Just high-level trends, volumes, kind of mortgage rates. Mortgage rates peaked around quarter-end, have improved since, improved a bit since then. Getting into a little bit of a seasonally more conducive environment for mortgage, but still a little bit of a challenging backdrop. Just curious where you stand right now on Arc Home and trends you're seeing.

Speaker #2: Around quarter end have improved since approved improved a bit since then. So getting into a little bit of a seasonally more conducive environment for mortgage, but still a little bit of a challenging factor.

Speaker #2: So just curious where you stand right now on our home and trends you're seeing.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Normalizing for the seasonality. Maybe slightly below budget, but it's still early. We're still seeing gains. So maybe that just speaks to the ambition of the budget of our ambition of our budget there.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. Normalizing for the seasonality may be slightly below budget, but it's still early. You know, we're still seeing, you know, gains, so maybe that just, you know, speaks to the ambition of the budget, of our ambition of our budget there. There has been a lot of healing. The gain on sale have been healthy. And the expectation is that the budgeted volumes will normalize and achieve what we originally penciled out. You know, early signs are good for Q2. As you alluded to, obviously, you know, seasonally, this is an important part of the year for them.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. Normalizing for the seasonality may be slightly below budget, but it's still early. You know, we're still seeing, you know, gains, so maybe that just, you know, speaks to the ambition of the budget, of our ambition of our budget there. There has been a lot of healing. The gain on sale have been healthy. And the expectation is that the budgeted volumes will normalize and achieve what we originally penciled out. You know, early signs are good for Q2. As you alluded to, obviously, you know, seasonally, this is an important part of the year for them.

Speaker #3: So there has been a lot of healing the gain on sales have been healthy. And the expectation is that the budgeted volumes will normalize and achieve what we originally penciled out.

Speaker #3: So early signs are good for Q2. And as you alluded to, obviously, seasonally, this is an important part of the year for them.

Speaker #2: Great. Appreciate it. Thanks for taking my questions.

Crispin Love: Great. Appreciate it. Thank you for taking my questions.

Crispin Love: Great. Appreciate it. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We'll move next to Bose George with KBW, your line is open.

Operator 2: Thank you. We'll move next to Bose George with KBW. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. We'll move next to Bose George with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Good morning. This is Frank Gillo by the on for Bose. I just wanted to start with a follow-up on the commercial discussion.

Frank Giliberti: Thank you. Good morning. This is Frank Giliberti on for Bose George. I just wanted to start with a follow-up on the commercial discussion. Do you think we could expect an additional marks on some of the sales? I know you said they're continuing to be ongoing, but any color there would be great.

Frank Giliberti: Thank you. Good morning. This is Frank Giliberti on for Bose George. I just wanted to start with a follow-up on the commercial discussion. Do you think we could expect an additional marks on some of the sales? I know you said they're continuing to be ongoing, but any color there would be great.

Speaker #6: Do you think we could expect additional marks on some of the sales? I know you said they're continuing to be ongoing, but any color there would be great.

Speaker #3: Yeah, so I think as we continue to go through the sales process and get more information from the market, I think we're generally reflecting that in the current valuation.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. I think as we continue to go through the sales process, get more information, from the market, I think we're generally reflecting that in the current valuation. Barring surprises, I would say the answer is no.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. I think as we continue to go through the sales process, get more information, from the market, I think we're generally reflecting that in the current valuation. Barring surprises, I would say the answer is no.

Speaker #3: So barring surprises, I would say the answer is no.

Speaker #6: Okay, great. Then, pivoting to the home equity—you've scaled it nicely over the past few quarters. Can you talk about how large that can get as a percentage of the portfolio?

Frank Giliberti: Okay, great. Pivoting to the home equity. You know, it's you scaled it nicely over the past few quarters. Trying to think about how large can that get as a percentage of portfolio. You know, you note 29% ROEs. Are those returns still available on new production today? Where's the best risk-adjusted returns in that market today? Thanks.

Frank Giliberti: Okay, great. Pivoting to the home equity. You know, it's you scaled it nicely over the past few quarters. Trying to think about how large can that get as a percentage of portfolio. You know, you note 29% ROEs. Are those returns still available on new production today? Where's the best risk-adjusted returns in that market today? Thanks.

Speaker #6: And then you note 29% ROEs is that are those returns still available on new production today? And where's the best risk-adjusted returns in that market today?

Speaker #6: Thanks.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Frank. So this market is expanded pretty with a good pace, call it 25% a year, really in earnest since call it '23.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. Thanks, Frank. This market has expanded pretty, you know, with a good pace, call it 25% a year, really in earnest since, call it 2023. We expect that pace to continue or to accelerate. We expect it to be the largest non-agency sort of or securitized product non-agency sector, or in this, you know, at this, at some point this year, if not next. We still think there's a lot of runway for the opportunity. From a return standpoint, while there is increased competition, it's not nearly as competitive as other segments of the non-agency market, and that's despite its performance having been a standout versus the broader non-agency market. We still continue to see a good amount of opportunity in this segment.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. Thanks, Frank. This market has expanded pretty, you know, with a good pace, call it 25% a year, really in earnest since, call it 2023. We expect that pace to continue or to accelerate. We expect it to be the largest non-agency sort of or securitized product non-agency sector, or in this, you know, at this, at some point this year, if not next.

Speaker #3: We expect that pace to continue or to accelerate. We expect it to be the largest non-agency sort of or securitized product non-agency sector in this at some point this year, if not next.

Speaker #3: So we still think there's a lot of runway for the opportunity from a return standpoint. While there is increased competition, it's not nearly as competitive as other segments of the non-agency market.

Nicholas Smith: We still think there's a lot of runway for the opportunity. From a return standpoint, while there is increased competition, it's not nearly as competitive as other segments of the non-agency market, and that's despite its performance having been a standout versus the broader non-agency market. We still continue to see a good amount of opportunity in this segment. From a deployable capital standpoint, you know, we don't have any concerns on being able to recycle capital into this segment for MITT.

Speaker #3: And that's despite its performance having been a standout versus the broader non-agency market. So we still continue to see a good amount of opportunity.

Speaker #3: In this segment and from a deployable capital standpoint, we don't have any concerns on being able to recycle capital into this segment for Mint.

Nicholas Smith: From a deployable capital standpoint, you know, we don't have any concerns on being able to recycle capital into this segment for MITT.

Speaker #6: Great. Thank you.

Frank Giliberti: Great. Thank you.

Frank Giliberti: Great. Thank you.

Operator 2: Thank you. We'll take our next question from Trevor Cranston with Citizens. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. We'll take our next question from Trevor Cranston with Citizens. Your line is now open.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And we'll take our next question from Trevor Cranston, with Citizens. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: All right. Thanks. There's been some reports about increasing delinquency levels in some of the recent vintage non-QM product. Can you guys comment specifically on your non-QM segment of the portfolio, if you guys are seeing any sort of deterioration in performance or just an update there would be great?

Trevor Cranston: Great. Thanks. There's been some reports about, you know, increasing delinquency levels in some of the recent vintage, non-QM product. Can you guys comment specifically on, you know, your non-QM segment of the portfolio, if you guys are seeing any sort of deterioration in performance or just an update there would be great. Thanks.

Trevor Cranston: Great. Thanks. There's been some reports about, you know, increasing delinquency levels in some of the recent vintage, non-QM product. Can you guys comment specifically on, you know, your non-QM segment of the portfolio, if you guys are seeing any sort of deterioration in performance or just an update there would be great. Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thanks.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So one, the sort of underperformance of non-QM is less relevant to Mint given our transitioning over to other segments over two years ago.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. One, the sort of underperformance of non-QM is less relevant to MITT given our transitioning over to other segments, you know, over 2 years ago. You know, most notably really the agency-eligible segment and then the home equity segment. Our agency-eligible book is performing better than prime jumbo, which is shocking to say out loud, but that's a fact. Our home equity segment, the delinquencies are, you know, less than a quarter of the delinquencies of the broader non-QM market, which is where most of the concern is. MITT as a vehicle is insulated versus sort of the underperformance versus underwrite. You know, we still are constructive broadly in the non-QM space.

Nicholas Smith: Yeah. One, the sort of underperformance of non-QM is less relevant to MITT given our transitioning over to other segments, you know, over two years ago. You know, most notably really the agency-eligible segment and then the home equity segment. Our agency-eligible book is performing better than prime jumbo, which is shocking to say out loud, but that's a fact. Our home equity segment, the delinquencies are, you know, less than a quarter of the delinquencies of the broader non-QM market, which is where most of the concern is.

Speaker #3: Most notably, really, the agency eligible segment and then the home equity segment are agency eligible book is performing better than Prime Jumbo, which is shocking to say out loud, but that's a fact.

Speaker #3: And then our home equity segment, the delinquencies are less than a quarter of the delinquencies of the broader non-QM market, which is where most of the concern is.

Speaker #3: So Mint, as a vehicle, is insulated versus sort of the underperformance versus underwrite. We still are constructive broadly in the non-QM space. But I think it's worth noting that generally, our credit selection has been tighter than the broader universe, which is driving some of that outperformance.

Nicholas Smith: MITT as a vehicle is insulated versus sort of the underperformance versus underwrite. You know, we still are constructive broadly in the non-QM space. I think it's worth noting that generally our credit selection has been tighter than the broader universe, which is driving some of that outperformance. You know, we don't view our book as a comp versus other folks. You know, over the years, like there's been some, you know, degradation in performance for various reasons. We don't see MITT as it being exposed to that.

Nicholas Smith: I think it's worth noting that generally our credit selection has been tighter than the broader universe, which is driving some of that outperformance. You know, we don't view our book as a comp versus other folks. You know, over the years, like there's been some, you know, degradation in performance for various reasons. We don't, we don't see MITT as it being exposed to that.

Speaker #3: So we don't view our book as a comp versus other folks. Over the years, there's been some degradation in performance for various reasons. We don't see Mint as it being exposed to that.

Speaker #2: Okay, great. Appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Trevor Cranston: Okay. Great. Appreciate the comment. Thank you.

Trevor Cranston: Okay. Great. Appreciate the comment. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star, then one on your telephone keypad now. We'll move on to Jason Weaver with Jones Trading, your line is open.

Operator 2: Thank you. We'll move on to Jason Weaver with Jones Trading. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question please press star then one on your telephone keypad. We'll move on to Jason Weaver with Jones Trading. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Hi, guys. Good morning. I was just curious about the nine-and-a-half notes of '29. Those are obviously the most expensive part of the capital stack right now.

Jason Weaver: Hi guys. Good morning. I was just curious about the nine and a half notes of 2029. Those are obviously the most expensive part of the capital stack. Right now, it's 3 years out, but I believe they become callable relatively shortly. With your EAD coverage, tell us how you're thinking about maybe doing a refinancing tender partial pay down. Any thoughts there?

Jason Weaver: Hi guys. Good morning. I was just curious about the nine and a half notes of 2029. Those are obviously the most expensive part of the capital stack. Right now, it's three years out, but I believe they become callable relatively shortly. With your EAD coverage, tell us how you're thinking about maybe doing a refinancing tender partial pay down. Any thoughts there?

Speaker #5: It's three years out, but I believe they've become callable relatively shortly. And with your AID coverage, have you tell us how you're thinking about maybe doing a refinancing tender, partial pay down?

Speaker #5: Any thoughts there?

Speaker #3: Yeah. No. I mean, we're always evaluating the entire capital structure. To your point, they are coming callable. There's two separate notes that were issued not too far away from each other.

Nicholas Smith: I mean, we're always evaluating the entire capital structure. To your point, they are coming callable. There's two separate notes that were issued not too far away from each other and they'll be coming up later this year. To the extent rates in the market move in the right direction, we'll certainly be looking to explore refinancing or delevering those.

Nicholas Smith: I mean, we're always evaluating the entire capital structure. To your point, they are coming callable. There's two separate notes that were issued not too far away from each other and they'll be coming up later this year. To the extent rates in the market move in the right direction, we'll certainly be looking to explore refinancing or delivering those.

Speaker #3: And they'll be coming up later this year. To the extent rates in the market move in the right direction, we'll certainly be looking to explore refinancing or delivering those.

Speaker #5: Got it. Thanks. And then on just overall purchase activity, your volume this quarter was well below the fourth quarter I think 87 million versus 284 million or so.

Jason Weaver: Got it. Thanks. On just overall purchase activity, your volume this quarter was well below, you know, Q4, I think $87 million versus $284 million or so. Is that more of a strategic or a timing issue over time? Were you waiting for wider spreads to get involved, or can you talk about that a bit?

Jason Weaver: Got it. Thanks. On just overall purchase activity, your volume this quarter was well below, you know, Q4, I think $87 million versus $284 million or so. Is that more of a strategic or a timing issue over time? Were you waiting for wider spreads to get involved, or can you talk about that a bit?

Speaker #5: Is that more of a strategic or a timing issue over time? Were you waiting for wider spreads to get involved, or can you talk about that a bit?

Nicholas Smith: It's a little more complicated than that. While the portfolio decreased by GAAP basis, it's really because the structures of the most recent transactions result in the company not consolidating these deals. You know, had we consolidated those deals, we actually would've had modest growth. I think, you know, there's a little bit of form over substance, you know, given those nuances.

Speaker #3: It's a little more complicated than that. So while the portfolio decreased, my gap basis, it's really because the structures of the most recent transactions result in the company not consolidating these deals.

Nicholas Smith: It's a little more complicated than that. While the portfolio decreased by GAAP basis, it's really because the structures of the most recent transactions result in the company not consolidating these deals. You know, had we consolidated those deals, we actually would've had modest growth. I think, you know, there's a little bit of form over substance, you know, given those nuances.

Speaker #3: Had we consolidated those deals, we actually would have had modest growth. So I think there's a little bit of form over substance given those nuances.

Speaker #5: All right. That makes sense. Thank you for that caller.

Jason Weaver: All right. That makes sense. Thank you for that color.

Jason Weaver: All right. That makes sense. Thank you for that color.

Speaker #1: Thank you. At this time, there are no further questions in queue. And I'll turn the meeting back to our hosts for any closing comments.

Operator 2: Thank you. At this time, there are no further questions in queue. I will now turn the meeting back to our hosts for any closing comments.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, there are no further questions in queue. I will now turn the meeting back to our hosts for any closing comments.

Speaker #6: Thank you to everyone for joining us this morning and for your questions. We appreciate it and look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.

Jenny Neslin: Thank you to everyone for joining us this morning and for your questions. We appreciate it and look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Have a great day.

Jenny Neslin: Thank you to everyone for joining us this morning and for your questions. We appreciate it and look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Have a great day.

Speaker #6: Have a great day.

Operator 2: Thank you. This brings us to the end of today's meeting. We appreciate your time and participation. You may now disconnect.

Operator: Thank you. This brings us to the end of today's meeting. We appreciate your time and participation. You may now disconnect.

Q1 2026 TPG Mortgage Investment Trust Inc Earnings Call

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TPG Mortgage Investment Trust

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Q1 2026 TPG Mortgage Investment Trust Inc Earnings Call

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Wednesday, April 29th, 2026 at 12:30 PM

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