Q1 2026 Community Financial System Inc Earnings Call

April 29, 2026

Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Community Financial System, Inc.'s Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two.

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Operator 2: Please note that this event is being recorded and the discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are based on the current expectation, estimates, and projection and about the industry, markets, and economic environment in which the company operates. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the results discussed. Refer to the company's SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section, for more details. Discussion may also include reference to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in the company's earnings release. I would now like to turn the conference over to Dimitar Karaivanov, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Operator: Please note that this event is being recorded and the discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are based on the current expectation, estimates, and projection and about the industry, markets, and economic environment in which the company operates. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the results discussed. Refer to the company's SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section, for more details. Discussion may also include reference to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in the company's earnings release. I would now like to turn the conference over to Dimitar Karaivanov, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: That are based on the current expectation estimates and projection and about the industry, markets, and economic environment in which the company operates. These statements involve risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to defer materially from the results discussed.

Speaker #2: Refer to the company's SEC filings including the risk factor section for more details. Discussion may also include reference to certain non-GAAP financial measures reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in the company's earnings release.

Speaker #2: I would now like to turn the conference over to Dimitar Karaivanov, President and CEO. Please go ahead. Good morning, everyone. I would like to first highlight a very recent recognition our company received last week.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Good morning, everyone. I would like to first highlight a very recent recognition our company received. Last week, we were named CenterState CEO Business of the Year with over 50 employees here in Central New York. This is one of the most prominent recognitions in Central New York. I believe it is a great illustration of the activity, commitment, visibility, investment, and impact we're having. The results we're about to discuss come in no small part due to all of the above. Major thank you to all of our teams across banking, insurance, employee benefits, and wealth management. Great things are happening in Upstate, and great things are happening at our company. Now on to results. We're off to a very good start in 2026. Organic growth is visible across all of our businesses.

Speaker #2: We were named CenterState CEO Business of the Year with over 50 employees here in Central New York. This is one of the most prominent recognitions in Central New York.

Speaker #2: I believe it is a great illustration of the activity, commitment, visibility, investment, and impact we're having, and the results we're about to discuss come in no small part due to all of the above.

Speaker #2: So, major thank you to all of our teams across banking, insurance, employee benefits, and wealth management. Great things are happening in Upstate, and great things are happening at our company.

Speaker #2: I want the results. We're off to a very good start in 2026. Organic growth is visible across all of our businesses. Strong new business efforts combined with the benefit of supportive interest rate environment and market values resulted in a 9% total revenue growth.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Strong new business efforts combined with the benefit of supportive interest rate environment and market values resulted in 9% total revenue growth. Our balance sheet, as always, is a source of strength for us and our clients with excellent liquidity and credit metrics. Expenses and return on investments remain a focus. All in all, 17% growth in operating diluted earnings per share compared to last year's period is a result we feel very good about. Focusing on each specific business. Banking and corporate is benefiting from organic growth, expanding margin, and our recent branch acquisition in one of the most attractive markets in the Northeast. 29% bottom line improvement year over year is peer-leading. Market share gains have been and will continue to be the main source of growth for us. Employee benefit services is expanding at the expected pace of mid to high single digits.

Speaker #2: Our balance sheet is always a source of strength for us and our clients, with excellent liquidity and credit metrics. Expenses and return on investments remain a focus.

Speaker #2: All in all, 17% growth in operating diluted earnings per share compared to last year's period is a result we feel very good about. Focusing on each specific business.

Speaker #2: Banking and corporate is benefiting from organic growth, expanding margin, and our recent branch acquisition in one of the most attractive markets in the Northeast.

Speaker #2: 29% bottom line improvement year over year is peer leading. Market share gains have been and will continue to be the main source of growth for us.

Speaker #2: Employee benefit services is expanding at the expected pace of mid to high single digits. We're starting to see some tangible results of our recent investments.

Dimitar Karaivanov: We're starting to see some tangible results of our recent investments. insurance services had a difficult comp from last year due to the timing of contingency payments, which as a reminder, came in Q1 2025 versus our typical pattern of mostly Q2 event. This, however, has not changed our expectations for overall insurance performance during the year. wealth management services also experienced mid-single-digit revenue growth and high single-digit bottom line growth in line with our expectations. In summary, we did have a very good start to 2026. Organic activity is strong. Targeted inorganic discussions are active across all of our businesses. We have excellent capital and liquidity and look forward to continued strong performance throughout the year. Marya will provide you with more details on the financials. Marya?

Speaker #2: Insurance services had a difficult comp from last year due to the timing of contingency payments which, as a reminder, came in the first quarter of 2025 versus our typical pattern of mostly second quarter event.

Speaker #2: This, however, has not changed our expectations for overall insurance performance. During the year. Wealth management services also experienced mid single digit revenue growth and high single digit bottom line growth in line with our expectations.

Speaker #2: In summary, we did have a very good start to 2026. Organic activity is strong. Targeted in organic discussions are active across all of our businesses.

Speaker #2: We have excellent capital and liquidity. And look forward to continued strong performance throughout the year. Marya will provide you with more details on the financials.

Speaker #2: All right?

Speaker #3: Thank you, Dimitar. And good morning, all. As Dimitar noted, the company's first quarter performance was strong. Including acquisition expenses, GAAP earnings per share of $1.08 increased 15 cents or 16.1% from the first quarter of the prior year and increased 5 cents or 4.9% from linked fourth quarter results.

Marya Wlos: Thank you, Dimitar, and good morning all. As Dimitar noted, the company's Q1 performance was strong. Including acquisition expenses, GAAP earnings per share of $1.08 increased $0.15, or 16.1% from the Q1 of the prior year and increased $0.05, or 4.9% from linked Q4 results. Operating earnings per share and operating pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue per share were record quarterly results for the company. Operating earnings per share were $1.15 in the Q1 as compared to $0.98 one year prior, and $1.12 in the linked Q4. Q1 operating PPNR per share of $1.61 increased $0.21 from one year prior, and increased $0.03 on a linked quarter basis.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Thank you, Dimitar, and good morning all. As Dimitar noted, the company's Q1 performance was strong. Including acquisition expenses, GAAP earnings per share of $1.08 increased $0.15, or 16.1% from the Q1 of the prior year and increased $0.05, or 4.9% from linked Q4 results. Operating earnings per share and operating pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue per share were record quarterly results for the company. Operating earnings per share were $1.15 in the Q1 as compared to $0.98 one year prior, and $1.12 in the linked Q4. Q1 operating PPNR per share of $1.61 increased $0.21 from one year prior, and increased $0.03 on a linked quarter basis.

Speaker #3: Operating earnings per share and operating pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue per share were record quarterly results for the company. Operating earnings per share were $1.15 in the first quarter, as compared to $0.98 one year prior and $1.12 in the linked fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: First quarter operating CP&R per share of $1.61 increased $0.21 from one year prior and increased $0.03 on a linked-quarter basis. These record operating results were driven by a quarter-over-quarter decline in operating non-interest expenses and a new quarterly high for net interest income.

Marya Wlos: These record operating results were driven by a quarter-over-quarter decline in operating non-interest expenses and a new quarterly high for net interest income. The company's net interest income was $134.7 million in Q1. This represents a $1.3 million or 1% increase over the linked Q4 and a $14.5 million or 12.1% improvement over Q1 2025 and marks the eighth consecutive quarter of net interest income expansion. The company's fully tax equivalent net interest margin increased 6 basis points from 3.39% in the linked Q4 to 3.45% in Q1, driven by lower funding costs.

Marya Burgio Wlos: These record operating results were driven by a quarter-over-quarter decline in operating non-interest expenses and a new quarterly high for net interest income. The company's net interest income was $134.7 million in Q1. This represents a $1.3 million or 1% increase over the linked Q4 and a $14.5 million or 12.1% improvement over Q1 2025 and marks the eighth consecutive quarter of net interest income expansion. The company's fully tax equivalent net interest margin increased 6 basis points from 3.39% in the linked Q4 to 3.45% in Q1, driven by lower funding costs.

Speaker #3: The company's net interest income was $134.7 million in the first quarter. This represents a 1.3 million or 1% increase over the linked fourth quarter and a 14.5 million or 12.1% improvement over the first quarter of 2025 and marks the eighth consecutive quarter of net interest income expansion.

Speaker #3: The company's fully tax equivalent net interest margin increased six basis points from 3.39% in the linked fourth quarter to 3.45% in the first quarter driven by lower funding costs.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, the company's cost of funds was 1.2%, a decrease of seven basis points from the prior quarter primarily driven by lower deposit costs.

Marya Wlos: During the quarter, the company's cost of funds was 1.2%, a decrease of 7 basis points from the prior quarter, primarily driven by lower deposit costs. Operating non-interest revenues increased $3.2 million or 4.2% compared to the prior year's Q1 and decreased $3.2 million or 3.8% from the linked Q4. The increase in operating non-interest revenues compared to the Q1 of 2025 was reflective of increases in Banking Services, Employee Benefit Services, and Wealth Management Services non-interest revenues, partially offset by a decrease in Insurance Services non-interest revenues due to changes in the timing of collections of contingent commission revenue. Operating non-interest revenues represented 37% of total operating revenues during the Q1, a metric that continuously emphasizes the diversification of our businesses.

Marya Burgio Wlos: During the quarter, the company's cost of funds was 1.2%, a decrease of 7 basis points from the prior quarter, primarily driven by lower deposit costs. Operating non-interest revenues increased $3.2 million or 4.2% compared to the prior year's Q1 and decreased $3.2 million or 3.8% from the linked Q4. The increase in operating non-interest revenues compared to the Q1 of 2025 was reflective of increases in Banking Services, Employee Benefit Services, and Wealth Management Services non-interest revenues, partially offset by a decrease in Insurance Services non-interest revenues due to changes in the timing of collections of contingent commission revenue. Operating non-interest revenues represented 37% of total operating revenues during the Q1, a metric that continuously emphasizes the diversification of our businesses.

Speaker #3: Operating non-interest revenues increased 3.2 million or 4.2% compared to the prior year's first quarter and decreased 3.2 million or 3.8% from the linked fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: The increase in operating non-interest revenues compared to the first quarter of 2025 was reflective of increases in banking, employee benefit services, and wealth management services non-interest revenues partially offset by a decrease in insurance services non-interest revenues due to changes in the timing of collections of contingent commission revenues.

Speaker #3: Operating non-interest revenues represented 37% of total operating revenues during the first quarter. A metric that continuously emphasizes the diversification of our businesses. The company reported a 5.6 million provision for credit losses during the first quarter.

Marya Wlos: The company reported a $5.6 million provision for credit losses during Q1. This compares to $6.7 million in the prior year's Q1 and $5 million in the linked Q4. During Q1, the company recorded $133 million in total non-interest expenses, a decrease of $5.5 million or 4% from the linked Q4 and an increase of $7.7 million or 6.2% from the prior year's Q1. The decrease from the prior year's Q4 was due in part to seasonal factors and the absence of certain one-time items described last quarter, as well as acquisition expenses associated with the Santander branch acquisition.

Marya Burgio Wlos: The company reported a $5.6 million provision for credit losses during Q1. This compares to $6.7 million in the prior year's Q1 and $5 million in the linked Q4. During Q1, the company recorded $133 million in total non-interest expenses, a decrease of $5.5 million or 4% from the linked Q4 and an increase of $7.7 million or 6.2% from the prior year's Q1. The decrease from the prior year's Q4 was due in part to seasonal factors and the absence of certain one-time items described last quarter, as well as acquisition expenses associated with the Santander branch acquisition.

Speaker #3: This compares to 6.7 million in the prior year's first quarter and 5 million in the linked fourth quarter. During the first quarter, the company recorded 133 million in total non-interest expenses, a decrease of 5.5 million or 4% from the linked fourth quarter and an increase of 7.7 million or 6.2% from the prior year's first quarter.

Speaker #3: The decrease from the prior year's fourth quarter was due in part to seasonal factors and the absence of certain one-time items described last quarter, as well as acquisition expenses associated with the Santander branch acquisition.

Speaker #3: 3.9 million of the increase in total non-interest expenses from the first quarter of 2025 was attributed to salaries and employee benefits primarily due to the incremental costs associated with acquisitions and de novo bank branches opened between the periods along with the impact of annual merit-based increases.

Marya Wlos: $3.9 million of the increase in total non-interest expenses from Q1 2025 was attributed to salaries and employee benefits, primarily due to the incremental costs associated with acquisitions and de novo bank branches opened between periods along with the impact of annual merit-based increases. Occupancy and equipment expenses increased $2.2 million from the prior year's Q1, driven by incremental costs associated with the opening of 15 de novo bank branches and 3 regional headquarters along with the 7 branches acquired from Santander in the prior year's Q4. Additionally, acquisition expenses of $0.4 million were incurred in Q1 2026 associated with the pending acquisition of ClearPoint Federal Bank & Trust.

Marya Burgio Wlos: $3.9 million of the increase in total non-interest expenses from Q1 2025 was attributed to salaries and employee benefits, primarily due to the incremental costs associated with acquisitions and de novo bank branches opened between periods along with the impact of annual merit-based increases. Occupancy and equipment expenses increased $2.2 million from the prior year's Q1, driven by incremental costs associated with the opening of 15 de novo bank branches and 3 regional headquarters along with the 7 branches acquired from Santander in the prior year's Q4. Additionally, acquisition expenses of $0.4 million were incurred in Q1 2026 associated with the pending acquisition of ClearPoint Federal Bank & Trust.

Speaker #3: Occupancy and equipment expenses increased 2.2 million from the prior year's first quarter driven by incremental costs associated with the opening of 15 de novo bank branches and three regional headquarters along with the seven branches acquired from Santander and the prior year's fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: Additionally, acquisition expenses of 0.4 million were incurred in the first quarter of 2026 associated with a pending acquisition of Clear Point Federal Bank and Trust.

Speaker #3: Ending loans increased 181.4 million or 1.7% during the first quarter and increased 710 million or 6.8% from one year prior primarily due to organic growth in the overall business and consumer lending portfolios.

Marya Wlos: Ending loans increased $181.4 million or 1.7% during Q1 and increased $710 million or 6.8% from one year prior, primarily due to organic growth in the overall business and consumer lending portfolios. The company's ending total deposits increased $978.1 million or 7% from one year prior and increased $483 million or 3.4% from the end of 2025. The growth in total deposits during Q1 was primarily reflective of seasonal inflows of municipal deposits. The increase in total deposits over the past 12 months included the $543.7 million of deposits assumed from the Santander branch acquisition.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Ending loans increased $181.4 million or 1.7% during Q1 and increased $710 million or 6.8% from one year prior, primarily due to organic growth in the overall business and consumer lending portfolios. The company's ending total deposits increased $978.1 million or 7% from one year prior and increased $483 million or 3.4% from the end of 2025. The growth in total deposits during Q1 was primarily reflective of seasonal inflows of municipal deposits. The increase in total deposits over the past 12 months included the $543.7 million of deposits assumed from the Santander branch acquisition.

Speaker #3: The company's ending total deposits increased 978.1 million or 7% from one year prior and increased 483 million or 3.4% from the end of 2025.

Speaker #3: The growth in total deposits during the first quarter was primarily reflective of seasonal inflows of municipal deposits. The increase in total deposits over the past 12 months included the $543.7 million of deposits assumed from the Santander branch acquisition.

Speaker #3: Moving on to asset quality, the non-performing loans ratio decreased four basis points and the net charge-off ratio increased two basis points from the linked fourth quarter while the loans 30 to 89 days delinquent ratio increased five basis points from last quarter aligned with typical seasonal trends.

Marya Wlos: Moving on to asset quality. The non-performing loans ratio decreased 4 basis points and the net charge-off ratio increased 2 basis points from the linked Q4, while the loans 30 to 89 days delinquent ratio increased 5 basis points from last quarter, aligned with typical seasonal trends. The company's allowance for credit losses was $90.2 million, or 81 basis points of total loans outstanding at the end of Q1, an increase of $2.3 million during the quarter. The increase was primarily attributed to reserve building in the business lending portfolio reflective of organic CRE growth. The allowance for credit losses at the end of Q1 represented 7 times the company's trailing twelve-month net charge-offs. We are pleased with the Q1 results, which reinforces our commitment to expand operating leverage and scale as a diversified financial services company.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Moving on to asset quality. The non-performing loans ratio decreased 4 basis points and the net charge-off ratio increased 2 basis points from the linked Q4, while the loans 30 to 89 days delinquent ratio increased 5 basis points from last quarter, aligned with typical seasonal trends. The company's allowance for credit losses was $90.2 million, or 81 basis points of total loans outstanding at the end of Q1, an increase of $2.3 million during the quarter. The increase was primarily attributed to reserve building in the business lending portfolio reflective of organic CRE growth. The allowance for credit losses at the end of Q1 represented 7 times the company's trailing twelve-month net charge-offs. We are pleased with the Q1 results, which reinforces our commitment to expand operating leverage and scale as a diversified financial services company.

Speaker #3: The company's allowance for credit losses was 90.2 million or 81 basis points of total loans outstanding at the end of the first quarter. An increase of 2.3 million during the quarter.

Speaker #3: The increase was primarily attributed to reserve building in the business lending portfolio reflective of organic CRE growth. The allowance for credit losses at the end of the first quarter represented seven times the company's trailing 12-month net charge-offs.

Speaker #3: We are pleased with the first quarter results, which reinforces our commitment to expand operating leverage and scale as a diversified financial services company. Looking forward, we believe the company's diversified revenue profile strong liquidity and historically good asset quality provide a solid foundation for continued earnings growth.

Marya Wlos: Looking forward, we believe the company's diversified revenue profile, strong liquidity, and historically good asset quality provide a solid foundation for continued earnings growth. With that, the financial expectations that we provided earlier this year for full year 2026 remain consistent. That concludes my prepared earnings comments, and Dimitar and I will now take questions. Steve, I will turn it back to you to open the line. Thank you.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Looking forward, we believe the company's diversified revenue profile, strong liquidity, and historically good asset quality provide a solid foundation for continued earnings growth. With that, the financial expectations that we provided earlier this year for full year 2026 remain consistent. That concludes my prepared earnings comments, and Dimitar and I will now take questions. Steve, I will turn it back to you to open the line. Thank you.

Speaker #3: With that, the financial expectations that we provided earlier this year for full year 2026 remain consistent. That concludes my prepared earnings comments, and Dimitar and I will now take questions.

Speaker #3: Steve, I will turn it back to you to open the line. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchstone phone.

Operator 2: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Steve Moss with Raymond James.

Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Steve Moss with Raymond James.

Speaker #1: If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to queue a question, please press star, then two.

Speaker #1: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Steve Moss with Raymond James.

Steve Moss: Good morning, Dimitar and Marya Wlos, how you guys doing?

Speaker #2: Good morning, Dimitar and Maria. How are you guys doing?

Steve Moss: Good morning, Dimitar and Marya Wlos, how you guys doing?

Speaker #3: Morning, Steve.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Morning, Steve.

Speaker #4: Morning.

Speaker #2: Morning. Nice quarter here and maybe just starting on the loan side, good commercial loan growth and just kind of curious where you are on the pipeline.

Marya Wlos: Morning.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Morning.

Steve Moss: Morning. You know, nice quarter here and, you know, maybe just starting on the loan side. You know, good commercial loan growth and just kind of curious where you are on the pipeline. I apologize if I missed it, Dimitar, as I hopped in the middle of your prepared remarks. You know, just curious color on that aspect of the loan book to start.

Speaker #2: I apologize if I missed it, Dimitar, because I hopped in the middle of your prepared remarks. Just curious on that aspect of the loan book to start.

Speaker #3: Yeah, the commercial pipeline is an excellent shape. I think it's actually the highest it's been. It is meaningfully higher than last year at this time.

Dimitar Karaivanov: The commercial pipeline is in excellent shape. I think it's actually the highest it's been. It is meaningfully higher than last year at this time. Of course, there's a fair amount of uncertainty as to the timing and the pull-through of the pipeline. Right now, activity is very good. It's been very good. It's been building. We have a little bit less payoffs than we did last year so far. I think you all know that impacted us meaningfully last year. Right now we're in pretty good shape.

Speaker #3: Of course, there's a fair amount of uncertainty as to the timing and the pull-through of the pipeline, but right now, activity is very good.

Speaker #3: It's been very good. It's been building. We have a little bit less payoffs than we did last year, so far. And I know I think you all know that that impacted us meaningfully last year.

Speaker #3: So right now, we're in pretty good shape.

Speaker #2: Okay. And then on the auto side here, strong quarter for that. I know you were upbeat on it. Just kind of curious, what you're seeing going forward in terms of pricing and where it could go for the rest of the year?

Steve Moss: Okay. On the auto side here, you know, strong quarter for that. I know you were upbeat on it. I'm just kind of curious what you're seeing going forward in terms of pricing and where it could go for the rest of the year.

Speaker #3: Yeah, for us, again, as a reminder, the auto piece for us is really the function of really pricing and kind of overall demand in the market because we don't really do anything as it relates to credit.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Yeah. For us, again, as a reminder, the auto piece for us is really a function of really pricing and kind of overall demand in the market because we don't really do anything as it relates to credit. That beats pace for us pretty constant. As long as they fit in the credit box, the question is, where are we on pricing? We entered this year with probably a little bit more of an aggressive stance on that, kind of expecting rates to trend down over time. I think we gained a little bit more market share than certainly last year. Kinda learned our lesson a little bit last year.

Speaker #3: That's the space where it's pretty constant. So as long as they fit in the credit box, then the question is where are we on pricing?

Speaker #3: We entered this year with probably a little bit more of an aggressive stance on that kind of expecting rates to trend down over time.

Speaker #3: So I think we gained a little bit more market share than certainly last year. Kind of learned our lesson a little bit last year.

Speaker #3: Last year, we were down meaningfully in the first quarter—that business. And this year, we didn't want to start deep in the hole. So, with that said, again, for us, activity is strong.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Last year, we were down meaningfully in Q1 in that business. This year we didn't wanna start deep in the hole. With that said, again, for us, activity is strong, you know, demand is okay. Pricing is now a little bit better than it was in the beginning of the year. We'll see where we ultimately end up. Our guidance and kind of our goal for that business continues to be mid-single digits.

Speaker #3: Demand is okay. Pricing is now a little bit better than it was in the beginning of the year. So we'll see where we ultimately end up.

Speaker #3: But our guidance, and kind of our goal for that business, continues to be mid-single digits.

Speaker #2: Okay. Got it. And then on the fee side here, you mentioned the contingent piece more in the second quarter. Kind of as I have all going back, it looks like that contingent benefit you typically get is about a million and a half, two million.

Steve Moss: Okay. Got it. On the fee side here, you mentioned the contingent piece more in Q2. Kind of as I eyeball going back, it looks like that contingent benefit you typically get is about a million and a half, $2 million. Is that about fair for Q2?

Speaker #2: Is that about fair for the second quarter?

Speaker #4: I see. Yep. Yep. That's in the range.

Marya Wlos: I see. Yep. That's in the range.

Marya Burgio Wlos: I see. Yep. That's in the range.

Speaker #2: Okay. Got it. And then just one more on expenses here. Good to see where they came in. Just thoughts, updated thoughts here on the cadence of expense growth throughout where you're looking for things set up.

Steve Moss: Okay. Got it. Just one more on expenses here. You know, good to see where they came in. Just thoughts, updated thoughts here on, you know, the cadence of expense growth throughout the year and where you're looking for things to land.

Speaker #3: Yeah, I mean, our guidance stays intact on that side. I mean, if you look at it, year over year, we're running just above a hair above six.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Yeah. I mean, our guidance stays intact on that side. I mean, if you look at it year over year, we're running just above a hair above 6, and that includes the impact of acquisitions from last year. I think as we get in the latter part of this year and we kind of are comparing truly apples to apples, if you will, in terms of the expenses we had in de novo expansion last year and acquisitions, you know, that rate will, my guess is and my hope is and my expectation is that it will continue to go lower from 6. Again, it will be within the range. We're going to drive it as low as we can. Our goal is not to spend money. Our goal is to make money.

Speaker #3: That includes the impact of acquisitions from last year. I think as we get in the latter part of this year, and we kind of are comparing truly apples to apples, if you will, in terms of the expenses we had in the Novo expansion last year and acquisitions, that rate.

Speaker #3: Well, my guesses and my hope is and expectation is that we'll continue to go lower from six. So again, it will be within the range.

Speaker #3: We're going to drive it as low as we can. Our goal is not to spend money. Our goal is to make money. And that's going to continue to be a focus for us.

Dimitar Karaivanov: That's gonna continue to be a focus for us.

Speaker #2: Okay. Great. I appreciate all that color and I'll step back in the queue here.

Steve Moss: Okay, great. I appreciate all that color, and I'll step back in the queue here.

Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from David Conrad. Is KBW?

Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from David Konrad with KBW.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from David Konrad with KBW.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Yeah, really good NIM expansion this quarter, but I thought it was interesting that the investment yields actually went down for BIP.

David Konrad: Hey, good morning. You had really good NIM expansion this quarter, but, you know, I thought it was interesting that the investment yields, you know, actually went down 4 basis points. Maybe refresh us on your NIM expectations for the year and talk about how, you know, the portfolio balances may be used to pay down borrowings or fund loan growth, or where you expect those securities balances to go. Thank you.

Speaker #5: So maybe refresh us on your NIM expectations for the year and talk about how the portfolio balance is maybe used to pay down borrowings or fund loan growth or where you expect those securities balances to go.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yep. Hi. So NIM did outperform our Q4 guide as we expanded six basis points in Q1. For us, this is a result of strong loan growth, ongoing repricing efforts, we also had a steeper yield curve, and then we've had in recent quarters.

Marya Wlos: Yeah. Hi. NIM did outperform our Q4 guide as we expanded, you know, 6 basis points in Q1. You know, for us this is a result of a strong loan growth, ongoing repricing efforts. We also had a steeper yield curve than we've had in recent quarters. You know, we're pleased with these results. Looking forward, you know, we expect, you know, for Q2, 3 to 5 basis points of expansion. We are gonna continue to capitalize on the loan and deposit efforts, you know, fully realize the late 2025 cuts. Just a note here, Q2 NIM, you know, will be partially aided by an FRB dividend, just, you know, for your notes there.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Yeah. Hi. NIM did outperform our Q4 guide as we expanded, you know, 6 basis points in Q1. You know, for us this is a result of a strong loan growth, ongoing repricing efforts. We also had a steeper yield curve than we've had in recent quarters. You know, we're pleased with these results. Looking forward, you know, we expect, you know, for Q2, 3 to 5 basis points of expansion. We are gonna continue to capitalize on the loan and deposit efforts, you know, fully realize the late 2025 cuts. Just a note here, Q2 NIM, you know, will be partially aided by an FRB dividend, just, you know, for your notes there.

Speaker #4: So we're pleased with these results. Looking forward, we expect for Q2, three to five basis points of expansion. We are going to continue to capitalize on the loan and deposit efforts.

Speaker #4: Fully realize the late 2025 cuts. Just a note here, Q2 NIM will be partially aided by an FRB dividend. Just for your notes there.

Marya Wlos: In terms of, you know, looking at the overall portfolio, if we see an opportunity, we will, you know, pay down borrowings. We see a steady state for now. Again, you know, want to reiterate, you know, the guidance of 3 to 5 for Q2 and, you know, are pleased with how our book looks at the moment.

Speaker #4: In terms of looking at the overall portfolio, if we have the see an opportunity, we will pay down borrowings. But we see a steady state for now.

Marya Burgio Wlos: In terms of, you know, looking at the overall portfolio, if we see an opportunity, we will, you know, pay down borrowings. We see a steady state for now. Again, you know, want to reiterate, you know, the guidance of 3 to 5 for Q2 and, you know, are pleased with how our book looks at the moment.

Speaker #4: And again, I want to reiterate the guidance of three to five for Q2. And we are pleased with how our book looks at the moment.

Speaker #1: Okay, thank you. Thank you. The next question comes from Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

David Konrad: Okay. Thank you.

Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Manuel Navas: Hey, just to follow up on the NIM discussion. The expectation is loan yields kind of flat to up or what kind of direction on the loan yields? The deposit cost performance has been excellent. Is there any more room for it to come down or you kind of have to shift acquiring deposits within the de novo branches? Can you just talk about deposit costs going forward?

Speaker #6: Hey, just to follow up on the NIM discussion. So the expectation is loan yields kind of flat to up, or what kind of direction on the loan yields?

Speaker #6: And then, the deposit cost performance has been excellent. Is there any more room for it to come down, or do you kind of have to shift to acquiring deposits within the Novo branches?

Speaker #6: Can you just talk about deposit costs going forward?

Speaker #3: Sure. Morning, Manuel. So for us, the environment continues to be more supportive on the asset side. So as we think about the trajectory for margin here, it will be predominantly driven by the asset side.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Sure. Morning, Manuel. For us, the environment continues to be more supportive on the asset side. As we think about the trajectory for margin here, it will be predominantly driven by the asset side. There will be quarters like this quarter where we're absorbing some of the hit on the asset side while you're trying to reprice deposits. For us, frankly, being flat in loan yields in the quarter, having absorbed, you know, two and a half cuts essentially, was pretty good.

Speaker #3: Now, there will be quarters like this quarter where we're absorbing some of the hit on the asset side while you're trying to reprice deposits.

Speaker #3: So for us, frankly, being flat in loan yields in the quarter, having absorbed two and a half cuts, essentially, was pretty good. Going forward, again, we expect that given where new production is, which is right around six, and given where the backbook is, which is right around 5.68, that should give you 30-plus basis points to work with there as we continue to reprice the book.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Going forward, again, we expect that, you know, given where new production is, which is right around 6, and given where the back book is, which is right around 5.68, that should give you know, 30-plus basis points to work with there as we continue to reprice the book. On the deposit side, we've discussed that we have pretty active deposit management across the board, so we were able to pull through as much as we could out of those deposit changes for the quarter. Clearly if there's no cuts, there is more limited opportunity to do that. Could there be another 2 basis points? I think that's possible.

Speaker #3: On the deposit side, we've discussed that we have pretty active deposit management across the board. So, we were able to pull through as much as we could out of those deposit changes through the quarter.

Speaker #3: Clearly, when there's no cuts, there is more limited opportunity to do that. Could there be another couple of basis points? I think that's possible.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Also keep in mind, in Q2, we're going to be sitting on a little bit more of liquidity, at least for the first 45 days or so, that is municipal related, and those tend to be higher cost deposits. There's just natural mechanical ins and outs of deposit costs through the quarters depending on the municipal flows.

Speaker #3: Also, keep in mind in the second quarter, we're going to be sitting on a little bit more of liquidity, at least for the first 45 days or so.

Speaker #3: That is municipal-related, and those tend to be higher-cost deposits. So there's just natural mechanical ins and outs of deposit costs through the quarters depending on the municipal flows.

Speaker #2: I appreciate that commentary. Shifting over to capital deployment, you had a little bit of a buyback this quarter. Can you just talk about your appetite there and any other kind of thoughts on updated thoughts on M&A, where you sit now, key businesses versus whole bank, obviously the Novos progressing?

Manuel Navas: I appreciate that commentary. Shifting over to capital deployment. You had a little bit of a buyback this quarter. Can you just talk about your appetite there and any other kind of updated thoughts on M&A? Where you sit now, fee businesses versus whole bank? Obviously the de novo's progressing. Could we just have a checkup on that?

Speaker #2: Could we just have a checkup on that?

Speaker #3: Sure. So our company is fortunate that we generate a fair amount of capital. And it really up to us to decide how we allocate that.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Sure. Our company is fortunate that we generate a fair amount of capital, and it's really up to us to decide how we allocate that. We're fortunate that we have four businesses that we can allocate it across. Our first priority is always going to be organic growth across those businesses. For the bank, that's kind of easy to ballpark because that's tied to the growth of the balance sheet. For the other businesses, it's a little bit harder because it's really in the expense base that we're making investments. They're not necessarily directly immediately from the capital account. That remains our first priority. As I mentioned in my remarks, we continue to have active and very targeted discussions across all of our businesses on the inorganic side.

Speaker #3: And we're fortunate that we have four businesses that we can allocate it across. So our first priority is always going to be organic growth across those businesses.

Speaker #3: For the bank, that's kind of easy to ballpark because that's tied to the growth of the balance sheet. For the other businesses, it's a little bit harder because it's really in the expense base that we're making investments so they're not necessarily directly, immediately from the capital account.

Speaker #3: So that remains our first priority. As I mentioned in my remarks, we continue to have active and very targeted discussions across all of our businesses on the inorganic side.

Speaker #3: So as you know, for us, historically, that's been I would call them singles and doubles. Kind of a string of pearls in some of the non-banking businesses' strategies.

Dimitar Karaivanov: As you know, for us historically that's been, I would call them singles and doubles, kind of a string of pearls in some of the non-banking businesses strategies. Occasionally on the bank side, as you know, we tend to like things that we can meaningfully grow and expand and create returns for shareholders, so they tend to be on the lower end as well in terms of size. We prefer to use cash, as you all know. Sometimes we may have to use stock and, you know, sometimes we wanna buy back that stock if we end up using stock for an acquisition.

Speaker #3: Occasionally, on the bank side, as you know, we tend to like things that we can meaningfully grow and expand and create returns for shareholders.

Speaker #3: So they tend to be on the lower end as well in terms of size. We prefer to use cash as you all know. Sometimes we may have to use stock.

Speaker #3: And sometimes we want to buy back that stock if we end up using stock for an acquisition. With that said, the buyback this quarter was really kind of opportunistic in the sense of, one, we need to clean up some of our equity dilution to provide kind of a neutral outcome to our shareholders.

Dimitar Karaivanov: With that said, the buyback this quarter was really kind of opportunistic, in the sense of, 1, we need to clean up some of our equity dilution, to provide, you know, kind of a neutral outcome to our shareholders. Secondly, there was clearly some disruption with the prices during the quarter. We took a little bit of advantage of that knowing where the earnings of the company are, kind of projected to be versus what the market price might be at a moment in time. We're going to continue to be opportunistic. You know, I think if you look at our price to earnings, projected forward, assuming all of you are correct, it's pretty attractive compared to historical measures. It's pretty attractive compared to the overall index.

Speaker #3: And then secondly, there was clearly some disruption with the prices during the quarter. So we took a little bit of advantage of that, knowing where the earnings of the company are.

Speaker #3: Kind of projected to be versus what the market price might be at the moment in time. So we're going to continue to be opportunistic.

Speaker #3: I think if you look at our price to earnings projected forward, assuming all of you are correct, it's pretty attractive compared to historical measures.

Speaker #3: It's pretty attractive compared to the overall index. So we think that our stock is reasonably attractive to look at if there are moments of further disruption.

Dimitar Karaivanov: We think that our stock is reasonably attractive to look at if there's moments of further disruption. I appreciate that. Thank you.

Dimitar Karaivanov: We think that our stock is reasonably attractive to look at if there's moments of further disruption.

Speaker #2: I appreciate that. Thank you.

Manuel Navas: I appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Matthew Breezy. It's Stephens, Inc.

Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. I have a few questions for me. Just thinking back to some of the strategic initiatives, taking market share in some of the economically more vibrant areas, in your footprint, could you just maybe give us some idea where we are on that priority and where you've kind of made the most progress, whether it's Rochester, Buffalo, Eastern Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, yeah, just one of an update there, and then maybe some thoughts around local investments, whether it's chip manufacturing or otherwise, and are you starting to see any tangible impacts yet?

Matthew Breese: Hey, good morning.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Good morning.

Matthew Breese: I have a few questions for me. You know, just thinking back to some of the strategic initiatives, taking market share in some of the economically more vibrant areas in your footprint, could you just maybe give us some idea where we are on that priority and where you've kind of, you know, made the most progress, whether it's Rochester, Buffalo, Eastern Pennsylvania, New Hampshire? Yeah, just wanted an update there and then maybe some thoughts around local investments, whether it's chip manufacturing or otherwise. Are you starting to see any tangible impacts yet?

Speaker #3: Sure. Thanks, Matt. So we've really been on this journey of revamping the organic capability of the company. Going back multiple years, and it started before I was at the company and started in Albany.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Sure. Thanks, Matt. We've really been on this journey of revamping the organic capability of the company, you know, going back multiple years. It started before I was at the company and started in Albany. That was a very successful initiative, and we now have a very vibrant and sizable business in Albany. We basically recreated the same thing in Central New York and in Western New York as well. Where we sit today, or what's really encouraging from my perspective as I look at where the growth has come or it's coming in a particular quarter. This quarter and the past quarter, it was broad-based. It was across every single one of the regions.

Speaker #3: And that was a very successful initiative, and we now have a very vibrant and sizable business in Albany. And then we basically recreated the same thing in Central New York.

Speaker #3: And then in Western New York as well. And where we sit today, what's really, really encouraging from my perspective is, I look at where the growth has come or it's coming in a particular quarter.

Speaker #3: And this quarter, and the past quarter, it was broad-based. It was across every single one of the regions. Now, we've had quarters in the past where the capability of the team and diversification would be in a way where we might have a great quarter in Pennsylvania, and we might have an excellent quarter in western New York, and we might have an excellent quarter in Syracuse.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Now we've had quarters, you know, in the past where the capability of the team and diversification would be in a way where, you know, we might have a great quarter in Pennsylvania, and we might have an excellent quarter in Western New York, and we might have an excellent quarter in Syracuse. That's what's kind of been and New England as well. It's been really good consistently. It's been a nice spread of effort. It has been a nice spread of activity level across all the markets, expectations and presence and again, incentives and just focus of the teams. We're pretty well, I think, established in terms of our talent acquisitions across those markets. There's a few other targeted areas that we may look at.

Speaker #3: And that's what's kind of been in New England as well. It's been really good consistently, so it's been a nice spread of effort. It has been a nice spread of activity level across all the markets.

Speaker #3: Expectations and presence, and again, incentives and just focus of the teams were pretty well, I think, established in terms of our talent acquisitions across those markets.

Speaker #3: There are a few other targeted areas that we may look at. I've said this before, and then there's some sort of a disruption that occurs that allows us to take another swing and add some of the best players in those markets.

Dimitar Karaivanov: I've said this before, there is some sort of a disruption that occurs that allows us to take another swing at some of the best players in those markets. We had something like that happen in New England recently. We expanded that team, so we'll continue to be on the front foot of those opportunities. I mean, it's kind of a long-winded way of saying it is across the board. It is consistent. We feel really good about our opportunities, our people, our talent, our reputation, our brand. Those are things that are hard to replicate. It's not the pricing. It's not structure. It's none of that. It is the hard things that we've been focused on.

Speaker #3: We had something like that happen in New England recently. So we expanded that team. So we'll continue to be on the front foot of those opportunities.

Speaker #3: But yeah, I mean, it's kind of a long-winded way of saying it is across the board. It is consistent we feel really good about our opportunities, our people, our talent, our reputation, our brand.

Speaker #3: Those are things that are hard to replicate. It's not the pricing. It's not structure. It's none of that. It is the hard things that we've been focused on.

Dimitar Karaivanov: We feel really good about that. As it relates to Central New York and some of the activity here, I think as you know, we kind of have formally, the major project here in Central New York is underway with Micron. I think the thing to just kind of keep in mind, this is a long tail event for us and everybody else here in Central New York. It's gonna play out over a decade plus. With that said, some of the tangible things are starting to show up. There's gonna be 4,000 workers coming on site pretty soon. Now they're transient, so are they gonna open banking accounts with us? Probably not. They probably already have banking accounts from the multiple sites they do work across the country.

Speaker #3: So we feel really good about that. As it relates to central New York and some of the activity here, I think, as you know, we kind of have formally the major project here in central New York is underway.

Speaker #3: With Micron, I think the thing to just kind of keep in mind, this is a long-tail event for us. And everybody else here in central New York is going to play out over a decade plus.

Speaker #3: With that said, some of the tangible things are starting to show up. There's going to be 4,000 workers coming on site pretty soon. Now they're transient.

Speaker #3: So are they going to open bank accounts with us? Probably not. They probably already have banking accounts from the multiple sites they do work across the country.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Are they gonna consume a whole bunch of things surrounding around our markets, which is gonna help our customers? Absolutely. That's going to be kind of the initial impact. We're gonna have some people that are more permanent around these facilities. It's not just Micron, it's all the suppliers around it. It's some of the onshoring we've talked about from Canada and some other markets. That's gonna continue to be the case. We're in a good spot. Maybe this is helpful to you to all kind of ballpark what this could be, again, over multiple years.

Speaker #3: But are they going to consume a whole bunch of things to run around our markets, which is going to help our customers? Absolutely. So that's going to be kind of the initial impact and then we're going to have some people that are more permanent around these facilities.

Speaker #3: And it's not just Micron. It's all the suppliers around it. It's some of the onshoring we've talked about from Canada and some other markets.

Speaker #3: That's going to continue to be the case, so we're in a good spot. If you—maybe this is helpful to you—to kind of ballpark what this could be again over multiple years.

Speaker #3: If you look at the size of the investment in chips and kind of advanced technology manufacturing that is to occur in central New York.

Dimitar Karaivanov: If you look at the size of the investment in chips and kind of advanced technology manufacturing that is to occur in Central New York, you compare it to those investments across the rest of the country, you look at the size of the investment versus the GDP of each one of those areas, it is only here in Central New York where that impact is literally 250% of the GDP of Central New York. It is very large. It's gonna be a very long time, it's a very large impact.

Speaker #3: And you compare it to those investments across the rest of the country, and you look at the size of the investment versus the GDP of each one of those areas, it is only here in Central New York where that impact is literally 250% of the GDP of Central New York.

Speaker #3: So, it is very large. It's going to be a very long time, but it is a very large impact.

Speaker #1: Great. I did not realize it was that large of an impact to local GDP. I didn't think I quite heard you on the clear point deal.

Matthew Breese: Great. I did not realize it was that large of an impact to local GDP. I didn't think I quite heard you on the ClearPoint deal. Is that closed yet, or when is that expected to close? During the quarter, were there any other kind of notable fee income, business lines acquisitions that didn't get, you know, its own formal Form 8-K?

Speaker #1: Has that closed yet, or when is that expected to close? And then, during the quarter, were there any other notable fee income business lines or acquisitions that didn't get their own formal 8-K?

Speaker #3: Yeah, so no, nothing different on the fee income side in terms of acquisitions during the quarter. As it relates to ClearPoint, we and ClearPoint are prepared to close.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Yeah. No, nothing different on the fee income side in terms of acquisitions during the quarter. As it relates to ClearPoint, we and ClearPoint are prepared to close. We have everything lined up in terms of our own preparations. There's really not a lot in terms of conversions or technology or people impact, so it's a very straightforward execution with low risk. However, we're still waiting on regulatory approval, and that could be any day or it could be later. We don't quite know how these things work. Whenever we receive that, we'll be prepared to close pretty shortly after.

Speaker #3: We have everything lined up in terms of our own preparations. There's really not a lot in terms of conversions or technology or people impact.

Speaker #3: So it's a very straightforward execution with low risk. However, we're still waiting on regulatory approval. And that could be any day or it could be later.

Speaker #3: We don't quite know. These things work. So whenever we receive that, we'll be prepared to close pretty shortly after.

Speaker #1: Okay. Last one for me. Just on expenses, and the press release—you had mentioned kind of the usage of AI. I'm curious how and where you're using this, and any notable applications that have perhaps saved you money or helped on the revenue front.

Matthew Breese: Okay. Last one for me, just on expenses. In the press release, you had mentioned kind of the usage of AI. I'm curious how and where you're using this and any notable applications that have, you know, perhaps saved you money or helped on the revenue front. That's all I had. Thank you.

Speaker #1: And that's all I had. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Matt. I mean, I do want to let people go to the rest of their days, because we can spend a lot of time, as you know, talking about AI.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Yeah, thanks, Matt. I mean, I do wanna let people go to the rest of their days 'cause we can spend a lot of time, as you know, talking about AI. I will say that we've been on this journey for literally 2 years now. I'll give credit to one of our directors, retiring directors, Sally Steele, who pushed us into being much more front-footed than probably we were going to be back in 2024. We've been at this for quite a while. As we've talked about, our goal has been to continue to scale the company without necessarily growing the expense base and the headcount, and really take activities that are less value-added to our customers and focus our people on high value-added activities.

Speaker #3: I will say that we've been on this journey for literally two years now. And I'll give credit to one of our directors, retiring director Sally Steele, who pushed us into being much more front-footed than probably we were going to be back in 2024.

Speaker #3: So we've been at this for quite a while. We are, as we've talked about, our goal has been to continue to scale the company without necessarily growing the expense base and the headcount and really take activities that are less value added to our customers and focus our people on high value added activities.

Speaker #3: With all of that said, I am a believer in what Alex Karp said at Palantir, which is AI's impact needs to be transformational, which is doing five times as much with half the cost.

Dimitar Karaivanov: With all of that said, I'm a believer in what Alex Karp said at Palantir, which is AI's impact needs to be transformational, which is doing five times as much with half the cost. Until I really see that and can really look all of you in the face and tell you that this is what's happening and this is why the margin is gonna go where it's gonna go, we're gonna be a little bit quieter on this. We're just gonna keep working in the background.

Speaker #3: And until I really see that, and can really look all of you in the face and tell you that this is what's happening, and this is why the margin is going to go where it's going to go, we're going to be a little bit quieter on this.

Speaker #3: We're just going to keep working in the background.

Speaker #1: Understood. That's all I had. Thank you.

Matthew Breese: Understood. That's all I had. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. To ask a question, you may press star, then one. On your touchstone phone. The next question comes from Manuel Navas, with Piper Sandler.

Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler.

Speaker #4: Hey, just wanted to jump back in. The expense level is targeting seemingly annualizing to below your four-year guide. Where are kind of some of the increases across the year as you invest in your businesses?

Manuel Navas: Hey, just wanted to jump back in. The expense level, it's targeting seemingly annualizing to below your full year guide. Where are kind of some of the increases across the year as you invest in your businesses?

Speaker #3: So I think, Manuel, a couple of things there. As you think about expenses, one, there's less quarter—there's less days in the quarter in the first quarter.

Dimitar Karaivanov: I think, Manuel, a couple of things there, as you think about expenses. One, there's less days in Q1, so that naturally is going to lead to a few more payroll days. You know, it's a meaningful adding expenses. We also expect that there will be some continued opportunities for whether it's the talent acquisition or maybe some smaller kind of role acquisitions that we're going to ultimately try to absorb with minimal cost, but along the way they might produce some costs. we, you know, again, not knowing what's in the future for us, it's a little bit hard to know. Also medical is a swing factor as well. We had a pretty good quarter in medical expenses, and that could reverse pretty quickly.

Speaker #3: So, that naturally is going to lead a few more payroll days into meaningful added expenses. We also expect that there will be some continued opportunities for whether it's the talent acquisition or maybe some smaller kind of role acquisitions that we're going to ultimately try to absorb with minimal cost.

Speaker #3: But along the way, they might produce some cost. So again, not knowing what's in the future for us, it's a little bit hard to know also medical is a swing factor as well.

Speaker #3: We had a pretty good quarter in medical expenses, and that could reverse pretty quickly. So there are a lot of things that kind of go into that expense base.

Dimitar Karaivanov: There's a lot of things that kind of go into that expense base and a couple of million dollars can be an easy delta in a quarter and actually move the numbers in terms of growth rate quite meaningful.

Speaker #3: And a couple of million dollars can be an easy delta in a quarter and actually move the numbers in terms of growth rate quite meaningful.

Speaker #5: Hey, Manuel. Great to add to that. Sorry, no, I was just going to go through that we are staying consistent with our guide that we provided.

Marya Wlos: Hey, Manuel, just quick to add to that.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Hey, Manuel, just quick to add to that.

Manuel Navas: I appreciate it. Thanks.

Marya Wlos: Sorry. No, I was just gonna go through that, you know, we are staying and consistent with our guide that we provided. Again, 4% to 7% growth, you know, mid-single digit and, you know, the dollar amount there is, you know, anywhere between $535 million and $550 million with an average of about $135 million a quarter, which you saw it come in, you know, under $133 in terms of core expense base this Q1. You know, we're on track to stick within those guardrails.

Marya Burgio Wlos: Sorry. No, I was just gonna go through that, you know, we are staying and consistent with our guide that we provided. Again, 4% to 7% growth, you know, mid-single digit and, you know, the dollar amount there is, you know, anywhere between $535 million and $550 million with an average of about $135 million a quarter, which you saw it come in, you know, under $133 in terms of core expense base this Q1. You know, we're on track to stick within those guardrails.

Speaker #5: So again, four to seven percent growth, mid-single digit, and the dollar amount there is anywhere between 500 and 35 and 550 million, with an average of about 135 million a quarter.

Speaker #5: Which you saw it come in under 133 in terms of core expense. This Q1. So we're on track to stick within those guardrails. And to Dematar's point, we're diligently reviewing and ensuring that what we are spending on and what we're investing in is focused first on growth from the perspective of talent acquisition and business acquisition.

Marya Wlos: You know, to Dimitar's point, you know, we're diligently reviewing and ensuring that what we are spending on and what we're investing in is focused first on growth from the perspective of talent acquisition, business acquisition, and, you know, obviously also tech and occupancy. Just to give you a little more color.

Marya Burgio Wlos: You know, to Dimitar's point, you know, we're diligently reviewing and ensuring that what we are spending on and what we're investing in is focused first on growth from the perspective of talent acquisition, business acquisition, and, you know, obviously also tech and occupancy. Just to give you a little more color.

Speaker #5: And obviously, also tech and occupancy. So, just to give you a little more clarity.

Speaker #4: That's great. And I just have two kind of specific modeling questions. What is the dividend benefit in the second quarter that you expect? Do you have a rough idea of that yet?

Manuel Navas: That's great. I just have two kind of specific modeling questions. What is the dividend benefit in Q2 that you expect? Do you have a rough idea of that yet? Then the other piece was, what was the repurchase price on the buyback? You're being opportunistic. I just wanna kinda get a feel for your what price is your appetite.

Speaker #4: And then the other piece was, what was the repurchase price on the buyback? You're being opportunistic. I just want to kind of get a feel for what price is your appetite?

Speaker #3: So I think on the buyback, Manuel, it was in the low 60s. And I think as it relates to the dividend, we'll probably have to follow up with you separately.

Dimitar Karaivanov: I think, on the buyback, Manuel, it was in the low sixties, and I think, as it relates to dividends, we'll probably have to follow up with you separately.

Speaker #4: Okay. That's great. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Manuel Navas: Okay. That's great. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dimitar for any closing remarks.

Operator 2: Thank you. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dimitar for any closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dimitar for any closing remarks.

Speaker #3: Thank you, everybody, for joining us for our first quarter. We look forward to speaking with you again in July. Have a great day.

Dimitar Karaivanov: Thank you, everybody, for joining us for our Q1, and we look forward to speaking with you again in July. Have a great day.

Operator 2: Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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Q1 2026 Community Financial System Inc Earnings Call

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