Half Year 2026 Umicore SA Earnings Call

Operator: Hello and welcome.

Speaker #2: Good morning to all.

Bart Sap: Good morning to all-

Speaker #1: Hello, and welcome. My name is Gail, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Umicore 2026 half-year results call.

Operator: Hello and welcome. My name is Gail, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Umicore 2026 H1 Results Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. After the introduction by management, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. I would now like to hand over the call to Bart Sap, Umicore CEO, and Wannes Peferoen, Umicore CFO. You may now go ahead, please.

Operator: Hello and welcome. My name is Gail, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Umicore 2026 H1 Results Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. After the introduction by management, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. I would now like to hand over the call to Bart Sap, Umicore CEO, and Wannes Peferoen, Umicore CFO. You may now go ahead, please.

Speaker #1: Please note that this call is being recorded. After the introduction by management, there will be a question-and-answer session. Thank you. I would now like to hand over the call to Bart Sap, Umicore's CEO, and Wannes Peferoen, Umicore's CFO.

Speaker #1: You may now go ahead, please.

Speaker #2: Okay. Now it's my turn. Good morning to all, and welcome to our H1 2026 earnings call. Let's open this presentation with a personal note.

Bart Sap: Okay, now it's my turn. Good morning to all, and welcome to our H1 2026 earnings call. Let's open this presentation with a personal note for our CFO, Wannes Peferoen, for whom this is the last set of numbers. Wannes, on behalf of Umicore, I'd like to express my sincerest thanks for all your investment and dedication over many years at Umicore. We've worked together in different moments throughout our career. I've always valued our collaboration. I wish you the very best in what is to come, and first of all, some well deserved with your close ones. Thank you, Bart. As also announced in April, Lily Liu will succeed Wannes as of 1 August. Lily is leaving this call in Wannes' capable hands. She's of course following this very closely, and those who participate in our roadshow next week will get to meet her.

Bart Sap: Okay, now it's my turn. Good morning to all, and welcome to our H1 2026 earnings call. Let's open this presentation with a personal note for our CFO, Wannes Peferoen, for whom this is the last set of numbers. Wannes, on behalf of Umicore, I'd like to express my sincerest thanks for all your investment and dedication over many years at Umicore. We've worked together in different moments throughout our career. I've always valued our collaboration. I wish you the very best in what is to come, and first of all, some well deserved with your close ones. Thank you, Bart. As also announced in April, Lily Liu will succeed Wannes as of 1 August. Lily is leaving this call in Wannes' capable hands. She's of course following this very closely, and those who participate in our roadshow next week will get to meet her.

Speaker #2: For our CFO, Wannes Peferoen, for whom this is the last set of numbers: Wannes, on behalf of Umicore, I'd like to express my sincere thanks for all your investment and dedication over many years at Umicore.

Speaker #2: We've worked together at different moments throughout our careers. I've always valued our collaboration, and I wish you the very best in what is to come.

Speaker #2: And first of all, some well-deserved time with your close ones.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Bart.

Speaker #2: As also announced in April, Lily Liu will succeed Wannes as of August 1. Lily is leaving this call in Wannes's capable hands. She's, of course, following this very closely.

Speaker #2: And those who participate in our roadshow next week will get to meet her. So, once again, also a very warm welcome to you, Lily.

Bart Sap: Once again, also a very warm welcome to you, Lily. Now let's have a look at our H1 performance and where we stand today. I'm really pleased with the broad-based earnings uplift that we delivered in H1 2026, primarily driven by strong business execution and efficiency. Underlying earnings were up strongly in the double digits. Earnings growth also benefited from a metal price tailwind, particularly pronounced in Q1 2026. This tailwind came from a broad basket of metals. In addition to that, our drive for efficiency had an even greater impact on earnings growth. This is something we are really proud of as a management team. Thank you to our teams for their remarkable efforts. These results provide us with confidence to upgrade our full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance to slightly more than EUR 1 billion.

Bart Sap: Once again, also a very warm welcome to you, Lily. Now let's have a look at our H1 performance and where we stand today. I'm really pleased with the broad-based earnings uplift that we delivered in H1 2026, primarily driven by strong business execution and efficiency. Underlying earnings were up strongly in the double digits. Earnings growth also benefited from a metal price tailwind, particularly pronounced in Q1 2026. This tailwind came from a broad basket of metals. In addition to that, our drive for efficiency had an even greater impact on earnings growth. This is something we are really proud of as a management team. Thank you to our teams for their remarkable efforts. These results provide us with confidence to upgrade our full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance to slightly more than EUR 1 billion.

Speaker #2: Now let's have a look at our H1 performance and where we stand today. I'm really pleased with the broad-based earnings uplift that we delivered in H1 2026, primarily driven by strong business execution and efficiency.

Speaker #2: Underlying earnings were up strongly in the double digits. Earnings growth also benefited from a metal price tailwind, which was particularly pronounced in Q1 2026. This tailwind came from a broad basket of metals.

Speaker #2: In addition to that, our drive for efficiency had an even greater impact on earnings growth. This is something we are really proud of as a management team.

Speaker #2: So, thank you to our teams for their remarkable efforts. These results provide us with confidence to upgrade our full-year 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance to slightly more than $1 billion, while previous guidance provided in April was to approach $1 billion.

Bart Sap: While previous guidance provided in April was to approach EUR 1 billion. Let me also draw your attention to our midterm strategic framework highlighted at the bottom of this slide. Our trajectory today shows indeed that we are well on track with our core midterm plan. We delivered increased margins, stronger returns, improved cash generation, and a robust balance sheet. Our H1 2026 performance and numbers now on the next slide. We have revenues growing 7% to EUR 1.9 billion. Earnings growth outpaced revenue growth as adjusted EBITDA increased 33% year on year. We delivered remarkable adjusted EBITDA margin accretion of about 600 basis points to 30.2% in H1 2026. The ROCE follows suit with a 660 basis point increase year on year to 23%. Cash conversion of earnings increased sharply as well, with a free operating cash flow of EUR 295 million versus an outflow in H1 2025.

Bart Sap: While previous guidance provided in April was to approach EUR 1 billion. Let me also draw your attention to our midterm strategic framework highlighted at the bottom of this slide. Our trajectory today shows indeed that we are well on track with our core midterm plan. We delivered increased margins, stronger returns, improved cash generation, and a robust balance sheet. Our H1 2026 performance and numbers now on the next slide. We have revenues growing 7% to EUR 1.9 billion. Earnings growth outpaced revenue growth as adjusted EBITDA increased 33% year on year. We delivered remarkable adjusted EBITDA margin accretion of about 600 basis points to 30.2% in H1 2026. The ROCE follows suit with a 660 basis point increase year on year to 23%. Cash conversion of earnings increased sharply as well, with a free operating cash flow of EUR 295 million versus an outflow in H1 2025.

Speaker #2: Let me also draw your attention to our midterm strategic framework, highlighted at the bottom of this slide. Our trajectory today shows, indeed, that we are well on track with our core midterm plan.

Speaker #2: We delivered increased margins, stronger returns, improved cash generation, and a robust balance sheet. Our H1 2026 performance and numbers are now on the next slide.

Speaker #2: We have revenues growing 7% to $1.9 billion. Earnings growth outpaced revenue growth, as adjusted EBITDA increased 33% year on year. We delivered remarkable adjusted EBITDA margin accretion of about 600 basis points, to 30.2% in H1 2026.

Speaker #2: Gross sales followed suit, with a 660 basis point increase year on year to 23%. Cash conversion of earnings increased sharply as well, with free operating cash flow of $295 million, versus an outflow in H1 2025.

Speaker #2: Strong adjusted EBITDA growth allowed us to achieve a significantly lower leverage ratio year on year, down to 1.52—well within targets. In short, these numbers reflect strong momentum, greater underlying business activity, and sustained efficiency.

Bart Sap: Strong adjusted EBITDA growth allowed to achieve a significantly lower leverage ratio year on year to 1.52, well within targets. In short, these numbers reflect strong momentum, greater underlying business activity, and sustained efficiency, further supported by a favorable metal price environment. Let's now go through business group performance, and we start this time with Catalysis. A quick overview of market dynamics first. Overall, as anticipated, global internal combustion engine production in H1 2026 was 1.5 million lower year on year. The global decline was driven by the light-duty vehicle market, so the passenger cars. Production dropped 4% year on year. You will notice mixed regional trends. The slowdown in China and Europe was only partially offset by stable to growing production in North America and South America. Looking at HD production, Europe was flat and China increased slightly.

Bart Sap: Strong adjusted EBITDA growth allowed to achieve a significantly lower leverage ratio year on year to 1.52, well within targets. In short, these numbers reflect strong momentum, greater underlying business activity, and sustained efficiency, further supported by a favorable metal price environment. Let's now go through business group performance, and we start this time with Catalysis. A quick overview of market dynamics first. Overall, as anticipated, global internal combustion engine production in H1 2026 was 1.5 million lower year on year. The global decline was driven by the light-duty vehicle market, so the passenger cars. Production dropped 4% year on year. You will notice mixed regional trends. The slowdown in China and Europe was only partially offset by stable to growing production in North America and South America. Looking at HD production, Europe was flat and China increased slightly.

Speaker #2: Further supported by a favorable metal price environment. Let's now go through business group performance, and we start this time with Catalysis. A quick overview of market dynamics first.

Speaker #2: Overall, and as anticipated, global internal combustion engine production in H1 2026 was 1.5 million lower year on year. The global decline was driven by the light-duty vehicle market, so passenger car production dropped 4% year on year.

Speaker #2: You will notice mixed regional trends. The slowdown in China and Europe was only partially offset by stable to growing production in North America and South America.

Speaker #2: Looking at HD production, Europe was flat and China increased slightly. India and Thailand, on the other hand, delivered a combined 16% increase in production.

Bart Sap: India and Thailand, on the other hand, delivered combined a 16% increase in production. On to performance in Catalysis on the next slide. Very solid set of numbers, largely driven by sustained operational excellence. Automotive Catalysts. Earnings up on broadly stable revenues year-on-year. Umicore did outperform the light-duty vehicle market as well as the HD market with strong volumes. Precious Metals Chemistry delivered materially higher revenues and earnings. Sustained demand levels across inorganic chemicals and homogeneous catalysts were further supported by favorable PGM price environments. Fuel Cell Catalysts and Stationary Catalysts. The segment was weaker year-on-year overall, yet we saw different trends between the fuel cell catalyst and the stationary catalyst divisions. On fuel cell catalysts, a lower adjusted EBITDA due to lower hydrogen technology adoption in China. We see some delay there.

Bart Sap: India and Thailand, on the other hand, delivered combined a 16% increase in production. On to performance in Catalysis on the next slide. Very solid set of numbers, largely driven by sustained operational excellence. Automotive Catalysts. Earnings up on broadly stable revenues year-on-year. Umicore did outperform the light-duty vehicle market as well as the HD market with strong volumes. Precious Metals Chemistry delivered materially higher revenues and earnings. Sustained demand levels across inorganic chemicals and homogeneous catalysts were further supported by favorable PGM price environments. Fuel Cell Catalysts and Stationary Catalysts. The segment was weaker year-on-year overall, yet we saw different trends between the fuel cell catalyst and the stationary catalyst divisions. On fuel cell catalysts, a lower adjusted EBITDA due to lower hydrogen technology adoption in China. We see some delay there.

Speaker #2: Sorry. Now, on to performance in Catalysis on the next slide. Very solid set of numbers, largely driven by sustained operational excellence. Automotive Catalysts' earnings are up on broadly stable revenues year-on-year.

Speaker #2: Umicore did outperform the light-duty vehicle market, as well as the HD market, with strong volumes. Precious Metals Chemistry delivered materially higher revenues and earnings. Sustained demand levels across inorganic chemicals and homogeneous catalysts were further supported by a favorable PGM price environment.

Speaker #2: Fuel cells and stationary catalysts: the segment was weaker year-on-year overall, yet we saw different trends between the fuel cell catalyst and the stationary catalyst divisions.

Speaker #2: So, on fuel cell catalysts, we saw a lower adjusted EBITDA due to lower hydrogen technology adoption in China. We see some delay there. Yet, at the same time, and on a positive note, we started production at our new proton exchange membrane catalyst plant in Changshu, China.

Bart Sap: At the same time, and on a positive note, we start production at our new proton exchange membrane catalyst plant in Jiangsu, China. This brings, of course, some startup costs. On stationary catalysts. Volumes remain strong as demand for backup power solutions for data centers continues to grow. As you know, we are very well positioned to further capture the growth in this market segment. To take a step back on Catalysis, I do want to highlight the long-term trajectory of the segment, which you see in the chart at the bottom right. Steadily growing revenues over the long term with improving adjusted EBITDA margins. Adjusted EBITDA margins reached a remarkable 28.3% in H1 2026. Operational excellence remains our core focus, and Catalysis is a great example for that. Recycling, with another outstanding performance. Metal prices overall continued to increase in H1 2026 versus 2025.

Bart Sap: At the same time, and on a positive note, we start production at our new proton exchange membrane catalyst plant in Jiangsu, China. This brings, of course, some startup costs. On stationary catalysts. Volumes remain strong as demand for backup power solutions for data centers continues to grow. As you know, we are very well positioned to further capture the growth in this market segment. To take a step back on Catalysis, I do want to highlight the long-term trajectory of the segment, which you see in the chart at the bottom right. Steadily growing revenues over the long term with improving adjusted EBITDA margins. Adjusted EBITDA margins reached a remarkable 28.3% in H1 2026. Operational excellence remains our core focus, and Catalysis is a great example for that. Recycling, with another outstanding performance. Metal prices overall continued to increase in H1 2026 versus 2025.

Speaker #2: This brings, of course, some startup costs. Then, on stationary catalysts, volumes remained strong as demand for backup power solutions for data centers continues to grow.

Speaker #2: As you know, we are very well positioned to further capture the growth in this market segment. To take a step back on catalysis—and I do want to highlight the long-term trajectory of the segment, which you see in the chart at the bottom right.

Speaker #2: We have seen steadily growing revenues over the long term, with improving adjusted EBITDA margins. Adjusted EBITDA margins reached a remarkable 28.3% in H1 2026. Operational excellence remains our core focus, and Catalysis is a great example of that.

Speaker #2: Recycling now, with another outstanding performance. Metal prices overall continued to increase in H1 2026 versus 2025. This was most prominent in Q1. We saw continued high volatility overall in 2026, and Umicore benefited from a broad basket of metals—not only PGM and precious metals, but also minor and specialty metals.

Bart Sap: This was most prominent in Q1. We saw continued high volatility overall in 2026, Umicore benefited from a broad basket of metals, not only PGM and precious metals, but also minor and specialty metals. The Recycling segment performance was stellar. Our revenues increased, yet most remarkably, we had significant adjusted EBITDA margin accretion to 52%. Also here you can see an attractive return profile of the Recycling segment over time. First, Precious Metals Refining. Revenues were broadly in line with H1 2026. We successfully managed the anticipated maintenance shutdown of the Hoboken plant. As a reminder, 2025 was a year without a shutdown. Adjusted EBITDA was higher. The favorable metal prices and mix did offset lower volumes and lower average hedging prices versus 2025. Jewelry & Industrial Metals. Very high volumes on the back of high gold and silver prices.

Bart Sap: This was most prominent in Q1. We saw continued high volatility overall in 2026, Umicore benefited from a broad basket of metals, not only PGM and precious metals, but also minor and specialty metals. The Recycling segment performance was stellar. Our revenues increased, yet most remarkably, we had significant adjusted EBITDA margin accretion to 52%. Also here you can see an attractive return profile of the Recycling segment over time. First, Precious Metals Refining. Revenues were broadly in line with H1 2026. We successfully managed the anticipated maintenance shutdown of the Hoboken plant. As a reminder, 2025 was a year without a shutdown. Adjusted EBITDA was higher. The favorable metal prices and mix did offset lower volumes and lower average hedging prices versus 2025. Jewelry & Industrial Metals. Very high volumes on the back of high gold and silver prices.

Speaker #2: The recycling segment performance was stellar. Our revenues increased, yet most remarkably, we had significant adjusted EBITDA margin accretion to 52%. Also, here you can see an attractive return profile of the recycling segment over time.

Speaker #2: First, precious metals refining. Revenues were broadly in line with H1 2026, with a successfully managed, anticipated maintenance shutdown of the Hoboken plant. As a reminder, 2025 was a year without a shutdown.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was higher. Favorable metal prices and mix did offset lower volumes and lower average hedging prices versus 2025. Then, jewelry and industrial metals.

Speaker #2: Very high volumes on the back of high gold and silver prices. The over-the-counter business successfully captured the momentum, even longer than what we had anticipated before.

Bart Sap: The over-the-counter business successfully captured the momentum even longer than what we had anticipated before. Demand for gold and silver bars was strong, mostly in Q1, combined with robust demand in the luxury end market. This resulted in sharply higher revenues and adjusted EBITDA. On Precious Metals Management, sustained volatility and high prices offered ideal market conditions for trading. Precious Metals Management captured that momentum. Before diving into the Specialty Materials results, I would like to come back to a statement made by Veerle Slenders, our EVP Specialty Materials, during our Capital Markets Day in London last year. She described Specialty Materials as the hidden gem of Umicore. Over the past year, we have worked to increase the visibility of these activities, we will continue to do so.

Bart Sap: The over-the-counter business successfully captured the momentum even longer than what we had anticipated before. Demand for gold and silver bars was strong, mostly in Q1, combined with robust demand in the luxury end market. This resulted in sharply higher revenues and adjusted EBITDA. On Precious Metals Management, sustained volatility and high prices offered ideal market conditions for trading. Precious Metals Management captured that momentum. Before diving into the Specialty Materials results, I would like to come back to a statement made by Veerle Slenders, our EVP Specialty Materials, during our Capital Markets Day in London last year. She described Specialty Materials as the hidden gem of Umicore. Over the past year, we have worked to increase the visibility of these activities, we will continue to do so.

Speaker #2: Demand for gold and silver bars was strong, mostly in the first quarter, combined with robust demand in the luxury end market. This resulted in sharply higher revenues and adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #2: On precious metals management, sustained volatility and high prices offered ideal market conditions for trading, and precious metals management captured that momentum. Before diving into the Specialty Materials results, I would like to come back to a statement made by Fearless Lenders, our EVP Specialty Materials, during our Capital Markets Day in London last year.

Speaker #2: She described Specialty Materials as the hidden gem of Umicore. Over the past year, we have worked to increase the visibility of these activities, and we will continue to do so.

Speaker #2: In the first half of 2026, Specialty Materials delivered an excellent performance, benefiting from favorable market dynamics while leveraging its strong position in structurally growing, technology-driven end markets.

Bart Sap: In H1 2026, Specialty Materials delivered an excellent performance, benefiting from favorable market dynamics while leveraging its strong position in structurally growing, technology-driven end markets. These businesses are creating tangible value in increasingly connected and geopolitically complex worlds, supported by our unique metals expertise and closed-loop business model. So more to come here. Now back to the numbers. In H1 2026, revenues and adjusted EBITDA were up strongly year on year in the double digits, with significant margin accretion. In Cobalt & Specialty Materials, we delivered a material increase in revenues and earnings year on year on the back of strong cobalt momentum. Efficiency benefits also contributed to the earnings growth. The business is looking at tungsten as part of our closed-loop business model. Another example of a metal affected by the geopolitical situation.

Bart Sap: In H1 2026, Specialty Materials delivered an excellent performance, benefiting from favorable market dynamics while leveraging its strong position in structurally growing, technology-driven end markets. These businesses are creating tangible value in increasingly connected and geopolitically complex worlds, supported by our unique metals expertise and closed-loop business model. So more to come here. Now back to the numbers. In H1 2026, revenues and adjusted EBITDA were up strongly year on year in the double digits, with significant margin accretion. In Cobalt & Specialty Materials, we delivered a material increase in revenues and earnings year on year on the back of strong cobalt momentum. Efficiency benefits also contributed to the earnings growth. The business is looking at tungsten as part of our closed-loop business model. Another example of a metal affected by the geopolitical situation.

Speaker #2: These businesses are creating tangible value in increasingly connected and geopolitically complex worlds, supported by unique metals expertise and a closed-loop business model—so more to come here.

Speaker #2: Now, back to the numbers. In H1 2026, revenues and adjusted EBITDA were up strongly year-on-year, in the double digits, with significant margin accretion.

Speaker #2: In Cobalt and Specialty Materials, we delivered a material increase in revenues and earnings year-on-year, on the back of strong cobalt momentum. Efficiency benefits also contributed to the earnings growth.

Speaker #2: The business is looking at tungsten as part of our closed-loop business model—another example of a metal affected by the geopolitical situation. In electronic optic materials, demand for substrates and high-purity chemicals for space applications and data communications was again strong.

Bart Sap: In Electro-Optic Materials, demand for substrates and high-purity chemicals for space applications and data communications was again strong. The combination of high germanium demand and export controls, as well as broader market conditions remained supportive for our closed-loop refining and recycling services. Here again, operational excellence also contributed to the material increase in adjusted EBITDA. Looking ahead, we will keep diversifying our customer base in these growing end markets. In Metal Deposition Solutions, revenues increased year on year on the back of solid demand for semiconductors and industrial applications. Growth was only partially offset by softer demand in the decorative applications. Battery Materials Solutions now. In Battery Cathode Materials, revenues increased, yet volumes remained in line with last year. As a result, the year-on-year increase mainly relates to take-or-pay compensations related to contractual volumes. In H1 2026, adjusted EBITDA reached EUR 90 million compared to EUR -15 million last year.

Bart Sap: In Electro-Optic Materials, demand for substrates and high-purity chemicals for space applications and data communications was again strong. The combination of high germanium demand and export controls, as well as broader market conditions remained supportive for our closed-loop refining and recycling services. Here again, operational excellence also contributed to the material increase in adjusted EBITDA. Looking ahead, we will keep diversifying our customer base in these growing end markets. In Metal Deposition Solutions, revenues increased year on year on the back of solid demand for semiconductors and industrial applications. Growth was only partially offset by softer demand in the decorative applications. Battery Materials Solutions now. In Battery Cathode Materials, revenues increased, yet volumes remained in line with last year. As a result, the year-on-year increase mainly relates to take-or-pay compensations related to contractual volumes. In H1 2026, adjusted EBITDA reached EUR 90 million compared to EUR -15 million last year.

Speaker #2: The combination of high germanium demand and export controls, as well as broader market conditions, remained supportive for our closed-loop refining and recycling services.

Speaker #2: Here again, operational excellence also contributed to the material increase in adjusted EBITDA. Looking ahead, we will keep diversifying our customer base in these growing end markets.

Speaker #2: In Metals Deposition Solutions, revenues increased year on year on the back of solid demand for semiconductors and industrial applications. Growth was only partially offset by softer demand in the decorative applications.

Speaker #2: Battery Materials Solutions now. In battery cathode materials, revenues increased, yet volumes remained in line with last year. As a result, the year-on-year increase mainly relates to take-or-pay compensations related to contractual volumes.

Speaker #2: In H1 2026, adjusted EBITDA reached €19 million, compared to minus €15 million last year. Going forward, we will keep our disciplined approach for this business.

Bart Sap: Going forward, we will keep our disciplined approach for this business. Battery Recycling Solutions. As we said before, the lithium-ion recycling opportunity is expected to materialize from the middle of the next decade. In the meantime, we continue to optimize our processes and technologies. In this context, earnings contribution was negative as anticipated. We remain very diligent here on execution and cost management. I'll now hand over the floor to Wannes for the financial review.

Bart Sap: Going forward, we will keep our disciplined approach for this business. Battery Recycling Solutions. As we said before, the lithium-ion recycling opportunity is expected to materialize from the middle of the next decade. In the meantime, we continue to optimize our processes and technologies. In this context, earnings contribution was negative as anticipated. We remain very diligent here on execution and cost management. I'll now hand over the floor to Wannes for the financial review.

Speaker #2: Battery recycling solutions. As we said before, the lithium-ion recycling opportunity is expected to materialize from the middle of the next decade. In the meantime, we continue to optimize our processes and technologies, and in this context, earnings contribution was negative as anticipated.

Speaker #2: We remain very diligent here on execution and cost management. I'll now hand over the floor to Wannes for the financial review.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Bart, and good morning everyone. As you heard from Bart, we delivered a strong first half with a significant improvement in EBITDA, margin, cash generation, and returns.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you, Bart, and good morning, everyone. As you heard from Bart, we delivered a strong H1 with a significant improvement in EBITDA, margin, cash generation, and returns. I will start with the overall performance of the Group. Adjusted EBITDA increased 33% to EUR 577 million as a result of three key drivers. Broad-based growth in volumes and activity. Ongoing top-line and efficiency measures. Third, favorable prices for precious metals and minor metals like cobalt. All three drivers made an equal contribution, and they more than offset inflation. The EBITDA margin increased from 24% to 30%. We also delivered strong cash generation. Cash flow from operations was EUR 565 million, compared to EUR 216 million last year. Working capital represented a cash outflow of EUR 132 million, mainly reflecting higher activity levels and higher metal prices, in particular in Catalysis. CapEx was EUR 130 million, up from EUR 109 million last year.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you, Bart, and good morning, everyone. As you heard from Bart, we delivered a strong H1 with a significant improvement in EBITDA, margin, cash generation, and returns. I will start with the overall performance of the Group. Adjusted EBITDA increased 33% to EUR 577 million as a result of three key drivers. Broad-based growth in volumes and activity. Ongoing top-line and efficiency measures. Third, favorable prices for precious metals and minor metals like cobalt. All three drivers made an equal contribution, and they more than offset inflation. The EBITDA margin increased from 24% to 30%. We also delivered strong cash generation.

Speaker #1: I will start with the overall performance of the group. Adjusted EBITDA increased 33% to €577 million, as a result of three key drivers. First, broad-based growth in volumes and activity.

Speaker #1: Second, ongoing top-line and efficiency measures. And third, favorable prices for precious metals and minor metals like cobalt. All three drivers made an equal contribution and more than offset inflation.

Speaker #1: The EBITDA margin increased from 24% to 30%. We also delivered strong cash generation. Cash flow from operations was €565 million, compared to €260 million last year.

Wannes Peferoen: Cash flow from operations was EUR 565 million, compared to EUR 216 million last year. Working capital represented a cash outflow of EUR 132 million, mainly reflecting higher activity levels and higher metal prices, in particular in Catalysis. CapEx was EUR 130 million, up from EUR 109 million last year.

Speaker #1: Working capital represented a cash outflow of €132 million, mainly reflecting higher activity levels and higher metal prices, in particular in Catalysis. Capex was €130 million, up from €109 million last year.

Speaker #1: This is mainly due to the plant maintenance shutdown in Precious Metals Refining, as well as some selective growth investments. After capex and capitalized development costs, free operating cash flow amounted to €295 million, compared to a cash outflow of €54 million last year.

Wannes Peferoen: This is mainly due to the plant maintenance shutdown in Precious Metals Refining, as well as some selective growth investments. After CapEx and capitalized development costs, free operating cash flow amounted to EUR 295 million, compared to a cash outflow of EUR 54 million last year. Free operating cash flow was largely absorbed by taxes, net interest, dividend payments, and equity injection into Ironway and other associates. In January this year, Umicore contributed EUR 175 million in equity to Ironway. Net debt increased EUR 151 million to EUR 1.5 billion. The leverage ratio improved slightly from 1.6 to 1.5 times. Looking at the consolidated P&L. I already covered EBITDA, jumping to EBIT. Adjusted EBIT increased 47% to EUR 442 million as a result of strong operational performance and continued efficiency measures. Adjusted net finance charges were EUR 80 million, down from EUR 102 million last year.

Wannes Peferoen: This is mainly due to the plant maintenance shutdown in Precious Metals Refining, as well as some selective growth investments. After CapEx and capitalized development costs, free operating cash flow amounted to EUR 295 million, compared to a cash outflow of EUR 54 million last year. Free operating cash flow was largely absorbed by taxes, net interest, dividend payments, and equity injection into Ironway and other associates. In January this year, Umicore contributed EUR 175 million in equity to Ironway. Net debt increased EUR 151 million to EUR 1.5 billion. The leverage ratio improved slightly from 1.6 to 1.5 times. Looking at the consolidated P&L. I already covered EBITDA, jumping to EBIT. Adjusted EBIT increased 47% to EUR 442 million as a result of strong operational performance and continued efficiency measures. Adjusted net finance charges were EUR 80 million, down from EUR 102 million last year.

Speaker #1: Free operating cash flow was largely absorbed by taxes, net interest, dividend payments, and equity injection into Ironway and other associates. In January this year, Umicore contributed €175 million in equity to Ironway.

Speaker #1: Net debt increased by €151 million to €1.5 billion. The leverage ratio improved slightly from 1.6 to 1.5 times. Now, looking at the consolidated P&L, I already covered EBITDA, so jumping to EBIT.

Speaker #1: Adjusted EBIT increased 47% to €442 million, as a result of strong operational performance and continued efficiency measures. Adjusted net finance charges were €80 million, down from €102 million last year.

Speaker #1: This was mainly due to lower foreign exchange losses, partly offset by the impact of interest rate changes. The adjusted tax charge was €78 million, up from €64 million last year, reflecting higher profit before tax.

Wannes Peferoen: This was mainly due to lower foreign exchange losses, partly offset by the impact of interest rate changes. The adjusted tax charge was EUR 78 million, up from EUR 64 million last year, reflecting higher profit before tax. The adjusted effective tax rate decreased from 31.7% to 21.3%. Adjusted net result group share was EUR 273 million, up from EUR 135 million last year. Adjusted earnings per share doubled to EUR 1.14. Adjustments had a negative impact of EUR 34 million, largely related to restructuring programs and environmental provisions. Net result group share was EUR 240 million, compared to EUR 137 million last year. Finally, return on capital employed improved significantly from 16.4% to 23%, supported by strong EBIT in H1 and continued capital discipline. Turning to the balance sheet. Our liquidity remains strong, with a cash position of EUR 1.8 billion and continued access to EUR 1.1 billion of undrawn credit facilities and commercial paper.

Wannes Peferoen: This was mainly due to lower foreign exchange losses, partly offset by the impact of interest rate changes. The adjusted tax charge was EUR 78 million, up from EUR 64 million last year, reflecting higher profit before tax. The adjusted effective tax rate decreased from 31.7% to 21.3%. Adjusted net result group share was EUR 273 million, up from EUR 135 million last year. Adjusted earnings per share doubled to EUR 1.14. Adjustments had a negative impact of EUR 34 million, largely related to restructuring programs and environmental provisions. Net result group share was EUR 240 million, compared to EUR 137 million last year. Finally, return on capital employed improved significantly from 16.4% to 23%, supported by strong EBIT in H1 and continued capital discipline. Turning to the balance sheet. Our liquidity remains strong, with a cash position of EUR 1.8 billion and continued access to EUR 1.1 billion of undrawn credit facilities and commercial paper.

Speaker #1: The adjusted effective tax rate decreased from 31.7% to 21.3%. Adjusted net result group share was €273 million, up from €135 million last year. Adjusted earnings per share doubled to €1.14.

Speaker #1: Adjustments had a negative impact of 34 million, largely related to restructuring programs and environmental provisions. Net result group share was 240 million, compared to 137 million last year.

Speaker #1: Finally, return on capital employed improved significantly, from 16.4 to 23%, supported by strong EBIT in the first half and continued capital discipline. Now turning to the balance sheet.

Speaker #1: Our liquidity remains strong, with a cash position of €1.8 billion and continued access to €1.1 billion of undrawn credit facilities and commercial paper.

Speaker #1: Gross debt was €3.2 billion, and the cost of debt increased to 3.5%. Group equity amounted to €2.45 billion, corresponding to a net gearing ratio of 38.1%.

Wannes Peferoen: Gross debt was EUR 3.2 billion and the cost of debt increased to 3.5%. Group equity amounted to EUR 2.45 billion, corresponding to a net gearing ratio of 38.1%. We continue to hedge precious metals in order to reduce volatility, increase visibility on future cash flows, and protect future earnings. At the end of June, we had forward contracts in place covering part of our expected exposure for precious metals up to 2030. This includes meaningful coverage for gold, Platinum, silver, Palladium, and Rhodium up to and including 2029. There was limited additional hedging this H1 due to minimal counterparty interest and a strong backwardation. We also maintain energy hedges for a significant portion of our European electricity and natural gas, we are also reasonably well-protected from rising energy prices. To conclude, we had an excellent H1.

Wannes Peferoen: Gross debt was EUR 3.2 billion and the cost of debt increased to 3.5%. Group equity amounted to EUR 2.45 billion, corresponding to a net gearing ratio of 38.1%. We continue to hedge precious metals in order to reduce volatility, increase visibility on future cash flows, and protect future earnings. At the end of June, we had forward contracts in place covering part of our expected exposure for precious metals up to 2030. This includes meaningful coverage for gold, Platinum, silver, Palladium, and Rhodium up to and including 2029. There was limited additional hedging this H1 due to minimal counterparty interest and a strong backwardation. We also maintain energy hedges for a significant portion of our European electricity and natural gas, we are also reasonably well-protected from rising energy prices. To conclude, we had an excellent H1.

Speaker #1: We continue to hedge precious metals in order to reduce volatility, increase visibility on future cash flows, and protect future earnings. At the end of June, we had forward contracts in place covering part of our expected exposure for precious metals up to 2030.

Speaker #1: This includes meaningful coverage for gold, platinum, silver, palladium, and rhodium, up to and including 29. There was limited additional hedging this half, due to minimal counterparty interest and a strong backwardation.

Speaker #1: We also maintained energy hedges for a significant portion of our European electricity and natural gas, so we are also reasonably well protected from rising energy prices.

Speaker #1: So, to conclude, we had an excellent first half. We delivered broad-based earnings growth, with adjusted EBITDA up 33%, a margin of 30%, strong cash conversion, and a robust balance sheet.

Wannes Peferoen: We delivered broad-based earnings growth with adjusted EBITDA up 33%, a margin of 30%, strong cash conversion, and a robust balance sheet. The foundation business performed well, and we continued to exercise discipline on costs, capital, and cash. Bart, before handing it over for the outlook, today is my last earnings call for Umicore, I would like to thank you for your trust, your engagement, and your constructive dialogue over the past four years, and you being the investors and the analysts next to you, Bart. It has been a privilege to interact with you and to be the CFO of Umicore. I leave the company in good hands with Bart and Lily, and I wish them, the team at Umicore, every success going forward. Bart, here, I hand it over to you for the outlook.

Wannes Peferoen: We delivered broad-based earnings growth with adjusted EBITDA up 33%, a margin of 30%, strong cash conversion, and a robust balance sheet. The foundation business performed well, and we continued to exercise discipline on costs, capital, and cash. Bart, before handing it over for the outlook, today is my last earnings call for Umicore, I would like to thank you for your trust, your engagement, and your constructive dialogue over the past four years, and you being the investors and the analysts next to you, Bart. It has been a privilege to interact with you and to be the CFO of Umicore. I leave the company in good hands with Bart and Lily, and I wish them, the team at Umicore, every success going forward. Bart, here, I hand it over to you for the outlook.

Speaker #1: The foundation business performed well, and we continue to exercise discipline on costs, capital, and cash. Now, Bart, before handing it over for the outlook, today is my last earnings call for Umicore, and I would like to thank you for your trust, your engagement, and your constructive dialogue over the past four years, and you being the investors and the analysts next to you, Bart.

Speaker #1: It has been a privilege to interact with you and to be the CFO of Umicore. I'll leave the company in good hands with Bart and Lily, and I wish them and the team at Umicore every success going forward.

Speaker #1: And Bart, I hand it over to you for the outlook.

Speaker #2: Well, thank you for your kind words, Wannes. And I understand that not only for me, but also for the broader set of people. So I think that is fully well deserved as well.

Bart Sap: Well, thank you for your kind words, Wannes. I understand they're not only for me, but also for the broader set of people.

Bart Sap: Well, thank you for your kind words, Wannes. I understand they're not only for me, but also for the broader set of people.

Wannes Peferoen: That is correct.

Wannes Peferoen: That is correct.

Bart Sap: I think that is fully well deserved as well. Thank you, Wannes. Let's now talk about the outlook for the rest of the year. In short, as said, we are increasing our adjusted EBITDA guidance to slightly above EUR 1 billion. The upgrade is based on the confidence provided by strong results in H1 2026. Please keep in mind two assumptions: stable metal prices versus June 2026, and no major deteriorations in the macro environment, which we all know remains for a time. Looking now at each business segment. In Catalysis, we have strong ongoing momentum, and we expect 2026 adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our record high of 2025 on the back of our excellent positioning and sustained operational efficiencies. In Recycling, given remarkable performance in H1 2026, full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA is likely to be significantly above 2025.

Bart Sap: I think that is fully well deserved as well. Thank you, Wannes. Let's now talk about the outlook for the rest of the year. In short, as said, we are increasing our adjusted EBITDA guidance to slightly above EUR 1 billion. The upgrade is based on the confidence provided by strong results in H1 2026. Please keep in mind two assumptions: stable metal prices versus June 2026, and no major deteriorations in the macro environment, which we all know remains for a time. Looking now at each business segment. In Catalysis, we have strong ongoing momentum, and we expect 2026 adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our record high of 2025 on the back of our excellent positioning and sustained operational efficiencies. In Recycling, given remarkable performance in H1 2026, full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA is likely to be significantly above 2025.

Speaker #2: So, thank you, Wannes. And so, let's now talk about the outlook for the rest of the year. In short, as it stands, we are increasing our adjusted EBITDA guidance to slightly above €1 billion.

Speaker #2: The upgrade is based on the confidence provided by strong results in the first half of 2026. Please keep in mind, too, the following assumptions: stable metal prices versus June 2026, and no major deteriorations in the macro environment, which we all know remains volatile.

Speaker #2: Looking now at each business segment, in Catalysis we have strong ongoing momentum, and we expect 2026 adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our record high of 2025.

Speaker #2: On the back of our excellent positioning and sustained operational efficiencies, and recycling, given remarkable performance in H1 2026, full-year 2026 adjusted EBITDA is likely to be significantly above 2025. Yet, keep in mind that H2 will be lower than H1, as exceptional conditions are not expected to continue beyond H1.

Bart Sap: Yet keep in mind that H2 will be lower than H1, as exceptional conditions are not expected to continue beyond H1. Specialty Materials full year 2026 expected significantly above year on year, yet with a slowdown in H2 versus H1. Specialty Materials is expected to continue to benefit from supportive margins for cobalt products, although the performance uplift from H1 2026 should further moderate into H2. In addition, performance should be supported by healthy demand for germanium products and resilient activity across end markets. Overall, the business is really well positioned to capture high quality growth opportunities going forward. In Battery Materials, the importance of take-or-pay mechanisms is increasing, as we said previously, in a context where the volume trajectory is expected to be stable year on year. As such, we continue to focus on executing our midterm plan while navigating volatile and competitive market dynamics.

Bart Sap: Yet keep in mind that H2 will be lower than H1, as exceptional conditions are not expected to continue beyond H1. Specialty Materials full year 2026 expected significantly above year on year, yet with a slowdown in H2 versus H1. Specialty Materials is expected to continue to benefit from supportive margins for cobalt products, although the performance uplift from H1 2026 should further moderate into H2. In addition, performance should be supported by healthy demand for germanium products and resilient activity across end markets. Overall, the business is really well positioned to capture high quality growth opportunities going forward. In Battery Materials, the importance of take-or-pay mechanisms is increasing, as we said previously, in a context where the volume trajectory is expected to be stable year on year. As such, we continue to focus on executing our midterm plan while navigating volatile and competitive market dynamics.

Speaker #2: Specialty Materials: Full-year 2026 is expected to be significantly above year-on-year, yet with a slowdown in H2 versus H1. Specialty Materials is expected to continue to benefit from supportive margins for cobalt products, although the performance uplift from H1 2026 should further moderate into H2.

Speaker #2: In addition, performance should be supported by healthy demand for germanium products and resilient activity across end markets. Overall, the business is really well positioned to capture high-quality growth opportunities going forward.

Speaker #2: And in battery materials, the importance of take-or-pay mechanisms is increasing, as we said previously, in a context where the volume trajectory is expected to be stable year-on-year.

Speaker #2: As such, we continue to focus on executing our mid-term plan while navigating volatile and competitive market dynamics. This requires continued rigorous capital allocation and cost-based reductions.

Bart Sap: This requires continuous rigorous capital allocation and cost base reductions. On corporate costs and CapEx. We remain selective and disciplined on both fronts. Corporate costs. We continue to invest in AI-driven solutions to further enhance operational excellence. Capital expenditures are expected to be in line with 2025, including selective high-quality growth investments in our foundation businesses. To summarize on the outlook, confident in our ability to continue executing our plan. H2 will not be as high as H1, yet full year 2026 is expected to be a strong year overall. A few words of conclusions now before the Q&A. Looking at the first semesters, two things really stood out to me. A broad-based earnings growth driven by strong execution. This led to high margin accretion year on year. Importantly, we were disciplined in our spending. We delivered strong cash generation and maintained a robust balance sheet.

Bart Sap: This requires continuous rigorous capital allocation and cost base reductions. On corporate costs and CapEx. We remain selective and disciplined on both fronts. Corporate costs. We continue to invest in AI-driven solutions to further enhance operational excellence. Capital expenditures are expected to be in line with 2025, including selective high-quality growth investments in our foundation businesses. To summarize on the outlook, confident in our ability to continue executing our plan. H2 will not be as high as H1, yet full year 2026 is expected to be a strong year overall. A few words of conclusions now before the Q&A. Looking at the first semesters, two things really stood out to me. A broad-based earnings growth driven by strong execution. This led to high margin accretion year on year. Importantly, we were disciplined in our spending. We delivered strong cash generation and maintained a robust balance sheet.

Speaker #2: Then, on corporate costs and capex: we'll remain selective and disciplined on both fronts. For corporate costs, we continue to invest in AI-driven solutions to further enhance operational excellence.

Speaker #2: Capital expenditures are expected to be in line with 2025, including selective high-quality growth investments in our foundation businesses. So, to summarize on the outlook, we are confident in our ability to continue executing our plan. H2 will not be as high as H1, yet full year 2026 is expected to be a strong year overall.

Speaker #2: A few words of conclusion now before the Q&A. Looking at the first semesters, two things really stood out to me: broad-based earnings growth driven by strong execution.

Speaker #2: This led to high margin accretion year on year. Importantly, we were disciplined in our spending, delivered strong cash generation, and maintained a robust balance sheet.

Speaker #2: And as we move forward, we remain firmly convinced of two realities. First, our circular multi-metal platform is unique and well positioned, as it continues to benefit from the growing strategic momentum behind critical raw materials.

Bart Sap: As we move forward, we remain firmly convinced of two realities. First, our circular multi-metal platform is unique and well-positioned as it continues to benefit from the growing strategic momentum behind critical raw materials. Secondly, volatility is the new normal of the world we operate in. Yet Umicore is built for change. As such, we will continue delivering value through a clear set of priorities, disciplined execution, and strong customer focus. With that, we can go to the Q&A.

Bart Sap: As we move forward, we remain firmly convinced of two realities. First, our circular multi-metal platform is unique and well-positioned as it continues to benefit from the growing strategic momentum behind critical raw materials. Secondly, volatility is the new normal of the world we operate in. Yet Umicore is built for change. As such, we will continue delivering value through a clear set of priorities, disciplined execution, and strong customer focus. With that, we can go to the Q&A.

Speaker #2: Secondly, volatility is the new normal of the world we operate in, yet Umicore is built for change. As such, we will continue delivering value through a clear set of priorities, disciplined execution, and strong customer focus.

Speaker #2: And with that, we can go to the Q&A.

Speaker #3: Thank you. We are now opening the floor for a question-and-answer session. Please limit yourself to one question only. And now we will pause for a brief moment to wait for questions to come in.

Operator: Thank you. We are now opening the floor for a question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question only. Now we will pause for a brief moment to wait for the questions to come in. Your first question comes from the line of John Campbell with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. We are now opening the floor for a question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question only. Now we will pause for a brief moment to wait for the questions to come in. Your first question comes from the line of John Campbell with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Your first question comes from the line of John Campbell. We have Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Yeah, hi everyone. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I was interested to learn a little bit more about the fact that you're exploring further opportunities towards tungsten.

John Campbell: Yeah. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I was interested to learn a little bit more about the fact you're exploring further opportunities towards tungsten. Can you maybe elaborate on exactly what you're looking at? What is the rationale, et cetera? Are these opportunities maybe that you see in the US, or would that be mostly in Europe? Thank you.

John Campbell: Yeah. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I was interested to learn a little bit more about the fact you're exploring further opportunities towards tungsten. Can you maybe elaborate on exactly what you're looking at? What is the rationale, et cetera? Are these opportunities maybe that you see in the US, or would that be mostly in Europe? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Can you maybe elaborate on exactly what you're looking at? What is the rationale, et cetera? And are these opportunities, maybe, that you see in the US, or would that be mostly in Europe?

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Yeah, so thank you, John, for that question. I mean, tungsten is somewhat part of our portfolio, and we actually see tungsten coming in with some raw material streams that we have.

Bart Sap: Thank you, John, for that question. Tungsten is somewhat part of our portfolios, and we see actually tungsten coming in with some raw material streams that we have. Today, we are starting to valorize tungsten, while we did not do it before. For instance, coming from our filter cakes, and this is something that we now further investigating. At the same time, we have a strong flow sheet in Olen, where we will be able to recover that. This is what we are referring to. As we further develop our capabilities, more could be there to come. Of course, everything depends on the further evolution of the tungsten price. It's more Europe-oriented, not so much US at this point in time.

Bart Sap: Thank you, John, for that question. Tungsten is somewhat part of our portfolios, and we see actually tungsten coming in with some raw material streams that we have. Today, we are starting to valorize tungsten, while we did not do it before. For instance, coming from our filter cakes, and this is something that we now further investigating. At the same time, we have a strong flow sheet in Olen, where we will be able to recover that. This is what we are referring to. As we further develop our capabilities, more could be there to come. Of course, everything depends on the further evolution of the tungsten price. It's more Europe-oriented, not so much US at this point in time.

Speaker #2: Today—well, today we are starting to valorize tungsten, while we did not do it before. For instance, coming from our filter cakes, and this is something that we are now further investigating.

Speaker #2: At the same time, we have a strong flowsheet in Olin where we will be able to recover that. So, this is what we are referring to.

Speaker #2: And as we further develop our capabilities, more could be there to come. Of course, everything depends on the further evolution of the tungsten price.

Speaker #2: So it's more Europe-oriented, not so much US at this point in time.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

John Campbell: Thank you.

John Campbell: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Virginia Fraser with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Georgina Fraser with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Georgina Fraser with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Thank you very much. Good morning, Bart. Good morning, Wannes. My question is related to your Battery Materials segment. Bart, earlier this year, you were quite vocal about the need for Europe to seek partnership with Chinese battery producers.

Georgina Fraser: Thank you very much. Good morning, Bart. Good morning, Wannes. My question is related to your battery materials segment. Bart, earlier this year, you were quite vocal about the need for Europe to seek partnership with Chinese battery producers. There have been several partnerships announced between European auto OEMs and suppliers with Chinese players in recent months. I was just wondering how you're seeing the landscape evolving and whether there's any new opportunities coming up for value recovery in your battery materials segment. Thank you.

Georgina Fraser: Thank you very much. Good morning, Bart. Good morning, Wannes. My question is related to your battery materials segment. Bart, earlier this year, you were quite vocal about the need for Europe to seek partnership with Chinese battery producers. There have been several partnerships announced between European auto OEMs and suppliers with Chinese players in recent months. I was just wondering how you're seeing the landscape evolving and whether there's any new opportunities coming up for value recovery in your battery materials segment. Thank you.

Speaker #5: There have been several partnerships announced between European auto OEMs and suppliers with Chinese players in recent months. I was just wondering how you're seeing the landscape evolving, and whether there are any new opportunities coming up for value recovery in your battery materials segment.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #2: No, thank you, Georgina. Very clear question. And I can confirm that indeed the momentum in Europe is warming up in that respect. I mean, there's indeed a more significant interest, especially for, let's say, new platforms looking at Europe.

Bart Sap: No, thank you, Georgina. Very clear question. I can confirm that indeed, the momentum in Europe is warming up in that respect. There's indeed a more significant interest, especially for, let's say, new platforms looking at Europe. Yes, that trend is definitely there. We always said that partnerships is what we are looking at next to our own midterm plan. We'll continue to further explore these options, and if there would be something to announce, of course, we'll come back to you in due time. In general, I would say that the ecosystem indeed is evolving in the right direction.

Bart Sap: No, thank you, Georgina. Very clear question. I can confirm that indeed, the momentum in Europe is warming up in that respect. There's indeed a more significant interest, especially for, let's say, new platforms looking at Europe. Yes, that trend is definitely there. We always said that partnerships is what we are looking at next to our own midterm plan. We'll continue to further explore these options, and if there would be something to announce, of course, we'll come back to you in due time. In general, I would say that the ecosystem indeed is evolving in the right direction.

Speaker #2: So yes, that trend is definitely there. We always said that partnerships are what we are looking at, next to our own mid-term plan. So we'll continue to further explore these options, and if there would be something to announce, of course, we'll come back to you in due time.

Speaker #2: But in general, I would say that the ecosystem is indeed evolving in the right direction.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Georgina Fraser: Thank you.

Georgina Fraser: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Christian Pipe with Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tristan Lamotte with Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Christian Faitz with Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Yes, thanks. Good morning, Bart, Wannes, Caroline, and team. And Wannes, all the best for your future ventures, and also congrats on the results.

Tristan Lamotte: Yes. Thanks. Good morning, Bart, Wannes, and Caroline, and team. Wannes, all the best for your future ventures. Also congrats on the results. I have also a question on the Battery Materials Solutions business. Maybe a bit more mid to long term. When would you see actual underlying demand returning? Can you describe a bit the current situation? Is it that your target market are either higher value added European vehicles are just not selling, or are they also switching to cheaper cathode active material at this point in time? Thanks very much.

Christian Faitz: Yes. Thanks. Good morning, Bart, Wannes, and Caroline, and team. Wannes, all the best for your future ventures. Also congrats on the results. I have also a question on the Battery Materials Solutions business. Maybe a bit more mid to long term. When would you see actual underlying demand returning? Can you describe a bit the current situation? Is it that your target market are either higher value added European vehicles are just not selling, or are they also switching to cheaper cathode active material at this point in time? Thanks very much.

Speaker #6: I've also a question on the Battery Materials Solutions business, maybe a bit more mid to long term. When would you see actual underlying demand returning?

Speaker #6: And can you describe a bit the current situation? Is it that your target market, i.e., the higher value-added European vehicles, are just not selling?

Speaker #6: Or are they also switching to cheaper cathode active material at this point in time? Thanks very much.

Speaker #2: Yeah, well, I think, thank you for your questions, Tristan, and also thank you for having attention for the full team here, because indeed, they all do great work.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Thank you for your question, Tristan, and also thank you for having attention for the full team here, because indeed, they all do great work, sometimes even in the background. Now, on the Battery Cathode Materials, I think we indicated earlier that for the time being, the importance of take-or-pay is higher than what we would have wanted it to be when we were showing our trajectory at the CMD in 2025. Of course, that's why we have the already at lengthily discussed take-or-pay provisions, which we will continue to enforce and continue to stand by. Now, if you refer more to technology, I think a lot has been said around, of course, the adoption of LFP, and we do see indeed some players really working on that. The market share in Europe, of course, for LFP is increasing.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Thank you for your question, Tristan, and also thank you for having attention for the full team here, because indeed, they all do great work, sometimes even in the background. Now, on the Battery Cathode Materials, I think we indicated earlier that for the time being, the importance of take-or-pay is higher than what we would have wanted it to be when we were showing our trajectory at the CMD in 2025. Of course, that's why we have the already at lengthily discussed take-or-pay provisions, which we will continue to enforce and continue to stand by. Now, if you refer more to technology, I think a lot has been said around, of course, the adoption of LFP, and we do see indeed some players really working on that. The market share in Europe, of course, for LFP is increasing.

Speaker #2: Sometimes, even in the backgrounds. Now, on battery cathode materials, I think we indicated earlier that, for the time being, the importance of take-or-pay is higher than what you would have wanted it to be.

Speaker #2: When we were showing our trajectory at the CMD in 2025, of course, that's why we have the already at-length discussed take-or-pay provisions, which we will continue to enforce and continue to stand by.

Speaker #2: Now, if you refer more to technology, I think a lot has been said around, of course, the adoption of LFP, and we do see, indeed, some players really working on that, and the market share in Europe, of course, for LFP is increasing.

Speaker #2: At the same time, we also see a very strong trend, and a much more clear trend, which is firming up also over the last months in the mid-nickel high voltage.

Bart Sap: At the same time, we also see a very strong trend, a much more clear trend, which is firming up also over the last month in the mid-nickel high-voltage, where we do believe that we have good solutions going forward. At the right nickel contents, meaning nickel sufficiently low, this is definitely a contender against locally produced LFP. Yeah, there we do see potential, and I think we have a good set of technologies to serve that market.

Bart Sap: At the same time, we also see a very strong trend, a much more clear trend, which is firming up also over the last month in the mid-nickel high-voltage, where we do believe that we have good solutions going forward. At the right nickel contents, meaning nickel sufficiently low, this is definitely a contender against locally produced LFP. Yeah, there we do see potential, and I think we have a good set of technologies to serve that market.

Speaker #2: Where we do believe that we have good solutions going forward, and at the right nickel contents—meaning nickel sufficiently low—this is definitely a contender for locally produced, against locally produced LFP.

Speaker #2: So yeah, there we do see potential, and I think we have a good set of technologies to serve that market.

Tristan Lamotte: That's good to hear. Thanks very much, and have a good weekend.

Christian Faitz: That's good to hear. Thanks very much, and have a good weekend.

Speaker #6: That's good to hear. Thanks very much, and have a good weekend.

Speaker #2: Same to you. Thank you.

Bart Sap: Same to you. Thank you.

Bart Sap: Same to you. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Sebastian Frey with Berenberg. Your line is open.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sebastian Bray with Berenberg. Your line is open.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sebastian Bray with Berenberg. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: Hello, good morning, and thank you for taking my question. It's on the metals pricing dynamic as we move into 2027. I have two parts.

Sebastian Bray: Hello, good morning, and thank you for taking my question. It's on the metals pricing dynamic as we move into 2027, and I have two parts. The first is on cobalt. It's very unusual to see a spot price of a metal literally flat as a straight line since last December. Is anything going on here where the informal market has a very different price? What do you think is happening for 2027? If I might expand the theme of pricing, at current hedge levels, what would be the price impact for the recycling segment? Is it positive or neutral for 2027? Thank you.

Sebastian Bray: Hello, good morning, and thank you for taking my question. It's on the metals pricing dynamic as we move into 2027, and I have two parts. The first is on cobalt. It's very unusual to see a spot price of a metal literally flat as a straight line since last December. Is anything going on here where the informal market has a very different price? What do you think is happening for 2027? If I might expand the theme of pricing, at current hedge levels, what would be the price impact for the recycling segment? Is it positive or neutral for 2027? Thank you.

Speaker #4: The first is on cobalt. It's very unusual to see a spot price of a metal literally flat, like a straight line, since last December.

Speaker #4: Is anything going on here where the informal market has a very different price than what you think is happening for 2027? And if I might expand the theme of pricing, at current hedge levels, what would be the price impact for the recycling segment?

Speaker #4: Is it positive or neutral for 2027? Thank you.

Speaker #2: Okay, thank you, Sebastian. I will start with the cobalt market, maybe, and then Wannes, if you could do the recycling segment. Yeah, on the cobalt market, you know that the cobalt price, of course, is through a price discovery mechanism.

Bart Sap: Okay. Thank you, Sebastian. I will start with the cobalt market maybe, and then Wannes, if you could do the

Bart Sap: Okay. Thank you, Sebastian. I will start with the cobalt market maybe, and then Wannes, if you could do the

Wannes Peferoen: Yeah

Wannes Peferoen: Yeah

Bart Sap: Recycling segment. On the cobalt market, you know that the cobalt price of course is through a price discovery mechanism. That's basically on feedback on, let's say, the metal transactions for cobalt, as market participants see those, of course, substantiated with underlying trading transactions. Now, the cobalt market is much more, of course, than just the metal price. It's a matter of refinery income that you have, and on the other hand, the premiums on the end product that you sell. Basically the refining charge and the premium, they constitute the revenue pool. I think for our activities, that revenue pool is the most important indicator of the margin that you can make. Now, there has been a momentum, late 2025, early 2026, that allowed us, given those market circumstances, to really lock in a part of that revenue pool.

Bart Sap: Recycling segment. On the cobalt market, you know that the cobalt price of course is through a price discovery mechanism. That's basically on feedback on, let's say, the metal transactions for cobalt, as market participants see those, of course, substantiated with underlying trading transactions. Now, the cobalt market is much more, of course, than just the metal price. It's a matter of refinery income that you have, and on the other hand, the premiums on the end product that you sell. Basically the refining charge and the premium, they constitute the revenue pool. I think for our activities, that revenue pool is the most important indicator of the margin that you can make. Now, there has been a momentum, late 2025, early 2026, that allowed us, given those market circumstances, to really lock in a part of that revenue pool.

Speaker #2: So that's basically feedback on, let's say, the metal transactions. For cobalt, as market participants see those, of course, substantiated with underlying trading transactions.

Speaker #2: Now, the cobalt market is much more, of course, than just the metal price. It's a matter of refinery income that you have, and on the other hand, the premiums on the end product that you sell.

Speaker #2: So basically, the refining charge and the premium, they constitute the revenue pool. And I think for our activities, that revenue pool is the most important indicator of the margin that you can make.

Speaker #2: Now, there has been momentum in late 2025 and early 2026 that allowed us, given those market circumstances, to really lock in a part of that revenue pool. This is part of the strong benefits that you have seen in H1 2026. That lock-in, of course, and these exceptional moments that you have are somewhat reducing in the second half of the year.

Bart Sap: This is part of the strong benefits that you have seen in H1 2026. That lock-in, of course, and this exceptional momentum that we have is somewhat reducing in H2 of the year and expecting it to be normalizing into 2027.

Bart Sap: This is part of the strong benefits that you have seen in H1 2026. That lock-in, of course, and this exceptional momentum that we have is somewhat reducing in H2 of the year and expecting it to be normalizing into 2027.

Speaker #2: And expecting it to be normalizing into 2027.

Speaker #1: Okay. In looking at the recycling segment and the hedge levels that we have for the precious metals, looking at 2026, this year was the year where we still had a substantial roll-off versus last year.

Wannes Peferoen: Okay. Then looking at the Recycling segment and the hedge levels that we have for the precious metals. Looking at 2026, this year was the year where we still had a substantial roll-off versus last year. Looking at 2027, this is where the price levels are more or less in line with what we see in 2026. Basically the impact for Recycling segment moving into next year would be neutral.

Wannes Peferoen: Okay. Then looking at the Recycling segment and the hedge levels that we have for the precious metals. Looking at 2026, this year was the year where we still had a substantial roll-off versus last year. Looking at 2027, this is where the price levels are more or less in line with what we see in 2026. Basically the impact for Recycling segment moving into next year would be neutral.

Speaker #1: Looking at 2027, this is where the price levels are more or less in line with what we see in 2026. So basically, the impact for the recycling segment moving into next year would be neutral.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much.

Sebastian Bray: Thank you very much.

Sebastian Bray: Thank you very much.

Bart Sap: You're welcome.

Bart Sap: You're welcome.

Speaker #1: You're welcome.

Wannes Peferoen: Yes, Sebastian.

Wannes Peferoen: Yes, Sebastian.

Speaker #2: Sebastian.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Marit Eason, then River with ABN AMRO. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Martin Rödiger with ABN AMRO. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Martijn den Drijver with ABN AMRO. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Yes, thank you, operator. Good morning, gentlemen. One question on Catalysis. You've won market share in H1. You won market share in 2025. Can you elaborate a little bit on your recent platform win?

Martin Rödiger: Yes, thank you, operator. Good morning, gentlemen. One question on Catalysis. You've won market share in H1, you won market share in 2025. Can you elaborate a little bit on your recent platform wins, so late 2025 and 2026, and thus your market share expectations going forward? That would obviously be for LCV, but also HD, please.

Martijn Den Drijver: Yes, thank you, operator. Good morning, gentlemen. One question on Catalysis. You've won market share in H1, you won market share in 2025. Can you elaborate a little bit on your recent platform wins, so late 2025 and 2026, and thus your market share expectations going forward? That would obviously be for LCV, but also HD, please.

Speaker #7: So, late 2025 and 2026—and do you have your market share expectations going forward? And that would obviously be for LCV, but also HD, please.

Speaker #4: Yeah, so on the market share in Catalysis, I think you were right. And of course, it depends a bit on the different markets that we're looking at.

Bart Sap: On the market share in Catalysis, I think you are right, and of course it depends a bit on the different markets that we're looking at. You're right that we have been gaining market share and that you see that in the numbers. I think what you also see in the numbers is our strong position with local Chinese OEMs, which are still exporting quite a bit of volumes out of China, allowing our Chinese activities actually to continue to run at a very high level despite lower ICE sales in that market. If we look at Euro 7, as mentioned before, we were successful in gaining platforms, and this is stuff that you start seeing through, of course. It all depends ultimately also on the sales that the actual cars do, depending on different customers that we have, and there's always some variation.

Bart Sap: On the market share in Catalysis, I think you are right, and of course it depends a bit on the different markets that we're looking at. You're right that we have been gaining market share and that you see that in the numbers. I think what you also see in the numbers is our strong position with local Chinese OEMs, which are still exporting quite a bit of volumes out of China, allowing our Chinese activities actually to continue to run at a very high level despite lower ICE sales in that market. If we look at Euro 7, as mentioned before, we were successful in gaining platforms, and this is stuff that you start seeing through, of course. It all depends ultimately also on the sales that the actual cars do, depending on different customers that we have, and there's always some variation.

Speaker #4: You're right that we have been gaining market share, and that you see that in the numbers. I think what you're also seeing in the numbers is our strong position with local Chinese OEMs, which are still exporting quite a bit of volume out of China, allowing our Chinese activities actually to continue to run at a very high level despite lower ICE sales in that market.

Speaker #4: If we look at Euro 7, as mentioned before, we were successful in gaining platforms. And this is something that you start seeing come true, of course.

Speaker #4: It all depends, ultimately, also on the sales that the actual cars do, depending on different customers that we have. And there's always some variation.

Speaker #4: But right now, it looks strong. And if you then indeed see to the overall market developments it's indeed seems the case that we're still outperforming in terms of volume.

Bart Sap: Right now, it looks strong. If you then indeed see to the overall market developments, it indeed seems the case that we're still outperforming in terms of volume. The market, which is supporting our results next to, of course, the high focus on operational excellence and efficiency.

Bart Sap: Right now, it looks strong. If you then indeed see to the overall market developments, it indeed seems the case that we're still outperforming in terms of volume. The market, which is supporting our results next to, of course, the high focus on operational excellence and efficiency.

Speaker #4: The market, which is supporting our results next to, of course, the high focus on operational excellence and efficiency.

Speaker #7: Understood. Thank you.

Martin Rödiger: Understood. Thank you.

Martijn Den Drijver: Understood. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Kristen. With Deutsche Bank, please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Christian Faitz with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tristan Lamotte with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Christian Faitz: Hi. I'm interested in some of the faster-growing areas of your business. I was wondering if you could just give a little bit of detail on your total exposure in areas like germanium, sales or EBITDA, and then also semiconductors, what your kind of total exposure is there. Then just coming back on battery materials, have a target of at least EUR 275 million by 2028. That's obviously a very large step up from where we are now. I'm just wondering if there's a scenario where you don't make that and the level of confidence now as it stands. Thank you.

Tristan Lamotte: Hi. I'm interested in some of the faster-growing areas of your business. I was wondering if you could just give a little bit of detail on your total exposure in areas like germanium, sales or EBITDA, and then also semiconductors, what your kind of total exposure is there. Then just coming back on battery materials, have a target of at least EUR 275 million by 2028. That's obviously a very large step up from where we are now. I'm just wondering if there's a scenario where you don't make that and the level of confidence now as it stands. Thank you.

Speaker #8: Hi, I'm interested in some of the faster growing areas of your business. I was wondering if you could just give a little bit of detail on your total exposure in areas like germanium—so sales or EBITDA—and then also semiconductors, what your kind of total exposure is there.

Speaker #8: And then, just coming back on battery materials, we have a target of at least €275 million by 2028, and that's obviously a very large step up from where we are now.

Speaker #8: So, I'm just wondering if there's a scenario where you don't make that, and what the level of confidence is now as it stands. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Yeah, maybe I can start with battery.

Bart Sap: Yeah.

Bart Sap: Yeah.

Wannes Peferoen: Yeah. Maybe I can start with Battery Cathode Materials.

Wannes Peferoen: Yeah. Maybe I can start with Battery Cathode Materials.

Speaker #1: Catalytic materials. I'm looking at the plan that we have ahead of us. So, as we shared during the Capital Markets Day, this plan is very much supported by the long-term agreements that we have with a few customers.

Bart Sap: Okay.

Bart Sap: Okay.

Wannes Peferoen: Looking at the plan that we have ahead of us. As we shared with the capital or during the capital market days, this plan is very much supported by the long-term agreements that we have with a few customers, and is also on the back of that ramped volume program that is included in that contract, and it is protected by the take-or-pay clause. That's basically the underlying foundation of the plan and that we still deem feasible.

Wannes Peferoen: Looking at the plan that we have ahead of us. As we shared with the capital or during the capital market days, this plan is very much supported by the long-term agreements that we have with a few customers, and is also on the back of that ramped volume program that is included in that contract, and it is protected by the take-or-pay clause. That's basically the underlying foundation of the plan and that we still deem feasible.

Speaker #1: And it's also on the back of that ramp-up volume program that is included in that contract, and that is protected by the take-or-pay clause.

Speaker #1: So that's basically the underlying foundation of the plan, and that we still deem fit, still deem feasible.

Speaker #2: Yes, indeed. And next to that, as mentioned already as well, we continue to focus on customer diversification. We had some firsts that we announced last year, of course, with our Korean customer.

Bart Sap: Yes, indeed. Next to that, as mentioned already as well, we continue to focus on customer diversification. We had some firsts that we announced last year, of course, with our Korean customer, and we continue to grow there. As, let's say, to the other strong growing business, we always said that, for instance, for Specialty Materials, for instance, specifically then maybe also in the field of Electro-Optic Materials, that we see very strong CAGR of 10% plus. We continue to stand by that. Even momentum is potentially even stronger than how we saw it. We see areas indeed, in Electro-Optic Materials. We also see the stationary catalysts market still as an interesting market where we also foresee continued growth.

Bart Sap: Yes, indeed. Next to that, as mentioned already as well, we continue to focus on customer diversification. We had some firsts that we announced last year, of course, with our Korean customer, and we continue to grow there. As, let's say, to the other strong growing business, we always said that, for instance, for Specialty Materials, for instance, specifically then maybe also in the field of Electro-Optic Materials, that we see very strong CAGR of 10% plus. We continue to stand by that. Even momentum is potentially even stronger than how we saw it. We see areas indeed, in Electro-Optic Materials. We also see the stationary catalysts market still as an interesting market where we also foresee continued growth.

Speaker #2: And we continue to go there. Now, let's say, turning to the other strong, growing business, we have always said that, for instance, for specialty materials—specifically, for example, in the field of electric optic materials—we see a very strong CAGR of 10% plus.

Speaker #2: We continue to stand by that even momentum is potentially even stronger than how we saw it. We see areas indeed in, for example, electric optic materials. We also see the stationary catalyst market still has an interesting market where we also foresee continued growth.

Speaker #2: Now, saying the exact number on the exposure, I don't have it top of mind, but it's clear that in this geopolitical context, where critical raw materials for sectors like defense, but also data centers, etcetera, several metals are gaining in importance.

Bart Sap: Saying exact number on the exposure, I don't have it top of mind, but it's clear that in this geopolitical context, where critical raw materials for sectors like defense, but also data centers, et cetera, several metals are gaining into importance. If you look at the basket of metals in Hoboken, but also in Specialty Materials, right? You'll see that they all have been having supporting undercurrents today for that metal price, and that's also therefore an indirect exposure to that end application. Rest assured, areas, as you mentioned, we are further exploring those and see how we can further leverage our unique business model across business groups to further extract value. I would say more to come there, but too early to now fully quantify it at this moment in time.

Bart Sap: Saying exact number on the exposure, I don't have it top of mind, but it's clear that in this geopolitical context, where critical raw materials for sectors like defense, but also data centers, et cetera, several metals are gaining into importance. If you look at the basket of metals in Hoboken, but also in Specialty Materials, right? You'll see that they all have been having supporting undercurrents today for that metal price, and that's also therefore an indirect exposure to that end application. Rest assured, areas, as you mentioned, we are further exploring those and see how we can further leverage our unique business model across business groups to further extract value. I would say more to come there, but too early to now fully quantify it at this moment in time.

Speaker #2: So if you look at the basket of metals, in Hoboken, but also in specialty materials, right, you'll see that they all have been having a supporting undercurrent today.

Speaker #2: For that metal price, and that's also there for an indirect exposure to that end application. But rest assured, areas—as you mentioned—we are further exploring those and seeing how we can further leverage our unique business model across business groups to further extract value.

Speaker #2: So I would say more to come there, but it's too early to fully quantify it at this moment in time.

Speaker #8: That's helpful. Thank you.

Christian Faitz: That's helpful. Thank you.

Tristan Lamotte: That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Thea Bataro with BNPP. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Thea Badaro with BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Thea Badaro with BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Speaker #9: Good morning, all. I have a question on your stationary catalyst business. We now have a bit more color on the size and the profitability of one of your closest peers in this division.

Thea Badaro: Morning, all. I have a question on your stationary catalyst business. We now have a bit more color on the size and the profitability of one of your closest peers in this division. Could you maybe help us understand how meaningful this business is for you? Any indication could be really helpful.

Thea Badaro: Morning, all. I have a question on your stationary catalyst business. We now have a bit more color on the size and the profitability of one of your closest peers in this division. Could you maybe help us understand how meaningful this business is for you? Any indication could be really helpful.

Speaker #9: Could you maybe help us understand how meaningful this business is for you? Any indication would be really helpful.

Speaker #4: Yeah, well, I mean, we have indeed seen the stationary market warming up more broadly. And we have seen one of our industry players also making a significant acquisition in that field, more specifically around Cormatech.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Well, what we have seen indeed, mainly more broadly, the stationary markets warming up, and we have seen one of our industry players also making a significant acquisition in that field, more specifically around Cormetech. We intend to grow that business. Let's say it's definitely not yet at the level, let's say, of a PMR or a AC, that's for sure. We do see a potential to more than double the EBITDA going forward. We will do that actually in a very capital disciplined way. We are working out these plans more concretely, and we'll be coming back to the market in due time. Definitely, we see it as a good growth opportunity next to Electro-Optic Materials. Yeah, and that could be sizable, especially towards the end of the decade going into 2031.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Well, what we have seen indeed, mainly more broadly, the stationary markets warming up, and we have seen one of our industry players also making a significant acquisition in that field, more specifically around Cormetech. We intend to grow that business. Let's say it's definitely not yet at the level, let's say, of a PMR or a AC, that's for sure. We do see a potential to more than double the EBITDA going forward. We will do that actually in a very capital disciplined way. We are working out these plans more concretely, and we'll be coming back to the market in due time. Definitely, we see it as a good growth opportunity next to Electro-Optic Materials. Yeah, and that could be sizable, especially towards the end of the decade going into 2031.

Speaker #4: We intend to grow that business. Let's say it's definitely not yet at a level, let's say, of a PMR or a C, that's for sure.

Speaker #4: But we do see a potential to more than double their EBITDA going forward. And we will do that, actually, in a very capital-disciplined way.

Speaker #4: We are working out these plans more concretely, and we'll be coming back to the market in due time. But definitely, we see it as a good growth opportunity next to electric optic materials.

Speaker #4: Yeah, and that could be sizable, especially towards the end of the decade going into 2031.

Speaker #9: Great, thank you. And Wannes, I wish you all the best.

Thea Badaro: Great. Thank you. Wannes, I wish you all the best.

Thea Badaro: Great. Thank you. Wannes, I wish you all the best.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Sweten with JPM. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Chetan Udeshi with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Chetan Udeshi with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker #10: Hi. Can you hear me?

Chetan Udeshi: Hi, can you hear me?

Chetan Udeshi: Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker #1: Yes.

Speaker #4: Yes.

Bart Sap: Yes.

Bart Sap: Yes.

Speaker #10: Yeah. Hi, morning. I had a few questions. The first one is, when I look at the consensus right now for H2, it's sort of somewhere around 465.

Wannes Peferoen: Yes.

Wannes Peferoen: Yes.

Chetan Udeshi: Hi, morning. I had a few questions. The first one is, when I look at the consensus right now for H2, it is somewhere around EUR 465. You have delivered EUR 577. I understand the one-off nature with cobalt and refining, but I am just curious, how do you think about that H2 consensus, given the magnitude of decline versus H1, which actually looks quite steep. I think the follow-up there, and both related, right? If I take consensus EUR 465, if I do times two, you start with a number of EUR 930, which is below this year going into next year. How does market get a comfort that next year would not be a down year? Is there something that we should keep in mind which can move the numbers next year? That is the first question I have.

Chetan Udeshi: Hi, morning. I had a few questions. The first one is, when I look at the consensus right now for H2, it is somewhere around EUR 465. You have delivered EUR 577. I understand the one-off nature with cobalt and refining, but I am just curious, how do you think about that H2 consensus, given the magnitude of decline versus H1, which actually looks quite steep. I think the follow-up there, and both related, right? If I take consensus EUR 465, if I do times two, you start with a number of EUR 930, which is below this year going into next year. How does market get a comfort that next year would not be a down year? Is there something that we should keep in mind which can move the numbers next year? That is the first question I have.

Speaker #10: You've delivered 577. I understand the sort of one-off nature with cobalt and refining. But I'm just curious, how do you think about that second-half consensus, given the magnitude of decline versus the first half, which actually looks quite steep?

Speaker #10: And I think the follow-up there—and both are related, right? I mean, if I take consensus, 465, if I do times two, you start with a number of 930, which is below this year going into next year.

Speaker #10: So, how does the market get a confirmation that next year will not be a down year? Is there something we should keep in mind that could move the numbers next year?

Speaker #10: That's the first question I have. And the second question was: Have you seen—and again, I think I asked this maybe a year back.

Chetan Udeshi: The second question was, have you seen, and again, I think I asked this maybe a year back, you mentioned something about critical minerals and trade conflict. Have you seen any change in your Recycling business model because of that? In the sense, most of your business today is spot contracts. Are you seeing customers willing to probably lock in capacities for certain metals for a longer duration of time? Meaning you get some take-or-pay business model concept also starting to emerge in the Recycling business. Thank you.

Chetan Udeshi: The second question was, have you seen, and again, I think I asked this maybe a year back, you mentioned something about critical minerals and trade conflict. Have you seen any change in your Recycling business model because of that? In the sense, most of your business today is spot contracts. Are you seeing customers willing to probably lock in capacities for certain metals for a longer duration of time? Meaning you get some take-or-pay business model concept also starting to emerge in the Recycling business. Thank you.

Speaker #10: You mentioned something about critical minerals and trade conflict. Have you seen any change in your recycling business model because of that? In a sense, most of your business today is forward contracts.

Speaker #10: Are you seeing customers willing to probably lock in capacities for certain metals for a longer duration of time? Meaning, are you getting some take-or-pay sort of business model concept also starting to emerge in the recycling business?

Speaker #10: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Okay, I'll give it a go, Chidam. So, first of all, looking at the second-half consensus, I would say that we feel comfortable with the order of magnitude that we see today in the consensus.

Wannes Peferoen: Well, I will give it a go, Chida. First of all, looking at the H2 consensus, I would say that we feel comfortable with the order of magnitude that we see today in the consensus. If you look at the underlying dynamics, as Bart explained, or as we explained, H1 was exceptionally strong. What we see is that in particular in Specialty Materials, in cobalt, there was an exceptional benefit, looking at the cobalt dynamics. Also looking at Jewelry & Industrial Metals, and Precious Metals Management. Also here we had very favorable conditions, looking at price volatility and looking at the interest for the over-the-counter Recycling business. Yes, there was some exceptional support in H1, which explains why we cannot extend it or extrapolate it into H2.

Wannes Peferoen: Well, I will give it a go, Chida. First of all, looking at the H2 consensus, I would say that we feel comfortable with the order of magnitude that we see today in the consensus. If you look at the underlying dynamics, as Bart explained, or as we explained, H1 was exceptionally strong. What we see is that in particular in Specialty Materials, in cobalt, there was an exceptional benefit, looking at the cobalt dynamics. Also looking at Jewelry & Industrial Metals, and Precious Metals Management. Also here we had very favorable conditions, looking at price volatility and looking at the interest for the over-the-counter Recycling business. Yes, there was some exceptional support in H1, which explains why we cannot extend it or extrapolate it into H2.

Speaker #1: If you look at the underlying dynamics, as Bart explained or as we explained, the first half was exceptionally strong. I mean, what we see is that, in particular in specialty materials, in cobalt, there was an exceptional benefit, looking at the cobalt dynamics.

Speaker #1: But also, looking at jewelry and industrial metals, and metals management, we had very favorable conditions here, considering price volatility and the interest in the over-the-counter recycling business.

Speaker #1: So yes, there was some exceptional support in the first half, which explains why we cannot extend it or extrapolate it into the second half.

Speaker #1: At the same time, looking at the second half, is this a good basis to extrapolate into 2027? We typically also have some seasonality across the business.

Wannes Peferoen: At the same time, looking at H2, is this a good basis to extrapolate into 2027? We typically also have some seasonality across the business, and in particular in Catalysis. That is something where I would say H2 is impacted by some of that seasonality, in particular in Catalysis. To be taken into account when you use H2 as a basis for next year. Maybe looking at your question around critical materials in minor metals. Given the geopolitical tension, pressure, we do see that customers are really interested in securing supply, and are willing to finance not only the supply, but also the expansion of capacity. Looking at some of the CapEx that we have ahead of us this year, what we call selective growth opportunities. This is linked very concretely to, for instance, germanium capacity that we are building out.

Wannes Peferoen: At the same time, looking at H2, is this a good basis to extrapolate into 2027? We typically also have some seasonality across the business, and in particular in Catalysis. That is something where I would say H2 is impacted by some of that seasonality, in particular in Catalysis. To be taken into account when you use H2 as a basis for next year. Maybe looking at your question around critical materials in minor metals. Given the geopolitical tension, pressure, we do see that customers are really interested in securing supply, and are willing to finance not only the supply, but also the expansion of capacity. Looking at some of the CapEx that we have ahead of us this year, what we call selective growth opportunities. This is linked very concretely to, for instance, germanium capacity that we are building out.

Speaker #1: And in particular in Catalysis, that's something where I would say H2 is impacted by some of that seasonality—in particular, in Catalysis. So that's something to be taken into account when you use H2 as a basis for next year.

Speaker #1: Maybe then, looking at your question around critical materials and minor metals, given the geopolitical tension and pressure, we do see that customers are really interested in securing supply.

Speaker #1: And are willing to finance not only the supply, but also the expansion of capacity. So, looking at some of the capex that we have ahead of us this year—what we call selective growth opportunities—this is linked very concretely to, for instance, germanium capacity that we're building out.

Speaker #1: Also, in stationary catalyst, there is interest from customers to secure capacity, looking at the infrastructure that is being built. So here, customers are willing to prepay not only for product materials, but are also looking at investments in order to secure capacity.

Wannes Peferoen: In stationary catalyst, there is interest from customers to secure capacity, looking at the infrastructure that is being built. Here, customers are willing to pre-pay not only product materials, but also looking at investments in order to secure capacity. That is an interesting dynamic in the markets that we are facing.

Wannes Peferoen: In stationary catalyst, there is interest from customers to secure capacity, looking at the infrastructure that is being built. Here, customers are willing to pre-pay not only product materials, but also looking at investments in order to secure capacity. That is an interesting dynamic in the markets that we are facing.

Speaker #1: So, that is an interesting dynamic in the market that you're facing.

Speaker #4: No, no, that's right. That's right, Wannes. And of course, more specifically around precious metals refining, as you ask, today—I mean, save the hedges that we do.

Bart Sap: No, that's right, Wannes. Of course, more specifically around Precious Metals Refining, as you ask. Today, save the hedges that we do, and it's often with a physical counterparty that we do hedges, of course. The market remains on the sales side, rather spot-driven, especially if you talk on the typical PM and PGM metals. Now, of course, on the supply chain, we always have a combination of spots and evergreen and very long-term contracts. That mix has not evolved substantially, I would say. At the same time, to underline what Wannes said, I think some sectors are really waking up to the criticality of some metals in their applications. I'm thinking data centers and others. I would assume that they indeed will have to wake up. Who has these units, and how can we secure those?

Bart Sap: No, that's right, Wannes. Of course, more specifically around Precious Metals Refining, as you ask. Today, save the hedges that we do, and it's often with a physical counterparty that we do hedges, of course. The market remains on the sales side, rather spot-driven, especially if you talk on the typical PM and PGM metals. Now, of course, on the supply chain, we always have a combination of spots and evergreen and very long-term contracts. That mix has not evolved substantially, I would say. At the same time, to underline what Wannes said, I think some sectors are really waking up to the criticality of some metals in their applications. I'm thinking data centers and others. I would assume that they indeed will have to wake up. Who has these units, and how can we secure those?

Speaker #4: And it's often with a physical counterparty that we do hedges, of course. The market remains, on the sales side, rather spot-driven—especially if you talk about the typical PM and PGM metals.

Speaker #4: Now, of course, on the supply chain, we always have a combination of spot and evergreen and very long-term contracts. So that mix has not evolved substantially, I would say.

Speaker #4: At the same time, underlying what Wannes said, I think some sectors are really waking up to the criticality of some metals in their applications.

Speaker #4: I'm thinking data centers and others. And I would assume that they, indeed, will have to wake up. I mean, who has these units? And how can we secure those?

Speaker #4: This is definitely something that could have further potential going forward.

Bart Sap: This is definitely something that could have further potential going forward.

Bart Sap: This is definitely something that could have further potential going forward.

Speaker #10: Thank you.

Chetan Udeshi: Thank you.

Chetan Udeshi: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Helena, with Jeff. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Helena Xu with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Helena Xu with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker #11: Good morning, Helena. I'm Jefferies. Thank you for taking my question, and congratulations on the strong result. I have a question on Specialty Materials, specifically with regard to germanium.

Helena Xu: Helena from Jefferies, thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the strong result. I have a question on Specialty Materials with regards to germanium. You had a really good run in H1 with healthy demand. My question is, how much of the current strength in germanium do you see is more of a scarcity pricing, versus how much of this is your position in refining and Recycling? Thank you.

Helena Xu: Helena from Jefferies, thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the strong result. I have a question on Specialty Materials with regards to germanium. You had a really good run in H1 with healthy demand. My question is, how much of the current strength in germanium do you see is more of a scarcity pricing, versus how much of this is your position in refining and Recycling? Thank you.

Speaker #11: You had a really good run in H1 with healthy demand. My question is, how much of the current strength in germanium do you see as being due more to scarcity pricing, versus how much is attributable to your position in refining and recycling?

Speaker #11: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. No, I think that's an excellent question. And I think when we talk when we refer to the strong run in H1 for special materials, especially around that cobalt momentum that we have seen, which we will think will start to normalize in second half and then going into 2027.

Bart Sap: Yep. No, I think that's an excellent question. I think when we refer to the strong run in H1 for Specialty Materials, especially around that cobalt momentum that we have seen, which we will think will start to normalize in H2 and then going into 2027. Now, on germanium, as we have marked this business as one of the high-quality growth business, where we indeed in certain segments of that market see CAGRs well north of 10% due to market dynamics. Now, if you look at production capacity in the West. Really from an end-to-end Recycling, refining, metal production, but also then really towards the end application lenses, substrates, et cetera. I think we have a really strong position. It's not just a metal price scarcity drive. If you also then look at the sales side, I think customers are willing to lock in longer term.

Bart Sap: Yep. No, I think that's an excellent question. I think when we refer to the strong run in H1 for Specialty Materials, especially around that cobalt momentum that we have seen, which we will think will start to normalize in H2 and then going into 2027. Now, on germanium, as we have marked this business as one of the high-quality growth business, where we indeed in certain segments of that market see CAGRs well north of 10% due to market dynamics. Now, if you look at production capacity in the West. Really from an end-to-end Recycling, refining, metal production, but also then really towards the end application lenses, substrates, et cetera. I think we have a really strong position. It's not just a metal price scarcity drive. If you also then look at the sales side, I think customers are willing to lock in longer term.

Speaker #4: Now, on Germanium, as we have marked this business as one of the high-quality growth businesses, we indeed, in certain segments of that market, see CAGRs well north of 10% due to market dynamics.

Speaker #4: Now, if you look at production capacity in the West, I mean, really from an end-to-end recycling, refining, metal production, but also then really towards the end application lenses, substrates, etc., etc., I think we have a really strong position.

Speaker #4: And it's not just a metal price scarcity drive. If you also then look at the sales side, I think customers are willing to lock in longer term.

Speaker #4: So it's also a technology transformation expansion that we see. But it's true that, of course, today, with the export limits out of China or, de facto, no germanium leaving China, the supply-demand equation has substantially changed.

Bart Sap: It's also a technology transformation expansion that we see. It's true that, of course, today with the export limits out of China or de facto no germanium leaving China, the supply/demand equation has substantially changed. Of course, we are able to also benefit from that, yet with a focus on the long term. That's how we try to do it.

Bart Sap: It's also a technology transformation expansion that we see. It's true that, of course, today with the export limits out of China or de facto no germanium leaving China, the supply/demand equation has substantially changed. Of course, we are able to also benefit from that, yet with a focus on the long term. That's how we try to do it.

Speaker #4: And of course, we're able to also benefit from that. Yet with a focus on the long term. That's how we try to do it.

Speaker #11: Thank you. That's super clear.

Helena Xu: Thank you. That's super clear.

Helena Xu: Thank you. That's super clear.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Mazahir Mammadli with Rothschild & Co and Paul Redburn. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mazahir Mammadli with Rothschild & Co Redburn. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mazahir Mammadli with Rothschild & Co Redburn. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Thank you. I was just wondering, at a high level, how has your thinking about the metals price hedging evolved, given that your capex need in battery materials has dropped substantially?

Mazahir Mammadli: Thank you.

Mazahir Mammadli: Thank you. I was just wondering, at a high level, how has your thinking about the metals price hedging evolved, given that your CapEx need in battery materials has dropped substantially? On battery materials, how do we explain the apparent disconnect between the relatively strong EV sales in Europe and the underlying performance of the CAM sales volume? Thank you.

Mazahir Mammadli: I was just wondering, at a high level, how has your thinking about the metals price hedging evolved, given that your CapEx need in battery materials has dropped substantially? On battery materials, how do we explain the apparent disconnect between the relatively strong EV sales in Europe and the underlying performance of the CAM sales volume? Thank you.

Speaker #4: And on battery materials, how do we explain the kind of apparent disconnect between the relatively strong EV sales in Europe and the underlying performance of the CAM sales volume?

Speaker #4: Thank you. Yeah. Well, let me start with battery materials. I would say it all has to do with the platforms for which we have been qualifying and have been linked to.

Bart Sap: Well, let me start with battery materials. That I would say it all has to do with the platforms to which we had been qualifying for and have been linked to. As you know, we had an enlarged exposure, and we built capacity, especially for Western battery makers here in Europe. We all know that that ramp-up is slower than anticipated. As such, therefore, in the shorter term, because these qualifications in terms of batteries and vehicle testing, of course, take quite some time. You see that effect now into our numbers. Or in our shipments. As mentioned before, we continue to focus on customer diversification. I also mentioned during the question of Georgina that we see an increased momentum around Europe as well, with more interest. I would anticipate that this trend will continue.

Bart Sap: Well, let me start with battery materials. That I would say it all has to do with the platforms to which we had been qualifying for and have been linked to. As you know, we had an enlarged exposure, and we built capacity, especially for Western battery makers here in Europe. We all know that that ramp-up is slower than anticipated. As such, therefore, in the shorter term, because these qualifications in terms of batteries and vehicle testing, of course, take quite some time. You see that effect now into our numbers. Or in our shipments. As mentioned before, we continue to focus on customer diversification. I also mentioned during the question of Georgina that we see an increased momentum around Europe as well, with more interest. I would anticipate that this trend will continue.

Speaker #4: So, as you know, we had an enlarged exposure, and we built capacity, especially for Western battery makers here in Europe. We all know that the ramp-up is slower than anticipated.

Speaker #4: Now, as such, therefore, in the shorter term—because these qualifications in terms of batteries and vehicle testing, of course, take quite some time—you see that effect now in our numbers.

Speaker #4: Now, as mentioned or in our shipments, as mentioned before, we continue to focus on customer diversification. I also mentioned during the question of Georgina that we see an increased momentum around Europe as well with more interest.

Speaker #4: So I would anticipate that this trend will continue. And as said before, when we have new contracts that we would win, we will come back to the market and explain that. Of course, that would then change that volume trajectory going forward.

Bart Sap: As said before, when we have new contracts that we would win, we will come back to the market and explain, and that, of course, would then change that volume trajectory going forward. Looking at the hedging policy, you referred to the CapEx need in battery materials. With those projections in path that we had, that's where we started to lift some of the hedges going forward in order to reduce volatility, secure future earnings. Today, we continue to adhere to that policy in the sense that it continues to protect our earnings, gives visibility. What we do is, of course, we take into account where are the prices from a historical view, are the prices attractive from a historical view. That's a key element.

Bart Sap: As said before, when we have new contracts that we would win, we will come back to the market and explain, and that, of course, would then change that volume trajectory going forward. Looking at the hedging policy, you referred to the CapEx need in battery materials. With those projections in path that we had, that's where we started to lift some of the hedges going forward in order to reduce volatility, secure future earnings. Today, we continue to adhere to that policy in the sense that it continues to protect our earnings, gives visibility. What we do is, of course, we take into account where are the prices from a historical view, are the prices attractive from a historical view. That's a key element.

Speaker #10: Yeah. And then, looking at the hedging policy—I mean, you referred to the capex need in Battery Materials. And indeed, with those projections in past that we had, that's where we started to lift some of the hedges going forward in order to reduce volatility and secure future earnings.

Speaker #10: Today, we continue to adhere to that policy in the sense that it continues to protect our earnings and gives visibility. But also, what we do is, of course, we take into account: where are the prices from a historical view, or are the prices attractive from a historical view?

Speaker #10: So that's a key element. And next to that, we also hedge up to, let's say, a maximum of 60 to 80 percent, depending on how far you go out.

Bart Sap: Next to that, we also hedge up to, let's say, maximum 60%, 80%, depending on how far you go out, which still leaves also room for upside, in case metal prices would further increase.

Bart Sap: Next to that, we also hedge up to, let's say, maximum 60%, 80%, depending on how far you go out, which still leaves also room for upside, in case metal prices would further increase.

Speaker #10: We still leave also room for upside in case metal prices would further increase.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Mazahir Mammadli: Thank you.

Mazahir Mammadli: Thank you.

Speaker #10: You're welcome.

Bart Sap: You're welcome.

Bart Sap: You're welcome.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Ian Damastir with ING. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ian Demisse with ING. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ian Demisse with ING. Please go ahead.

Speaker #12: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my question — two, actually. On battery materials, what's the actual volume outlook for 2027? Because if the platforms where you're exposed are slow to ramp up this year, why would they recover next year, as the market is now basically flooded with new model launches?

Ian Demisse: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Two, actually. On battery materials, what's the actual volume outlook for 2027? If the platforms where you're exposed to are slow to ramp up this year, why would they recover next year as the market is now basically flooded with new model launches? A small one on recycling. What's the potential of a shutdown in 2027? Lastly, also from my end, all the best, Wannes.

Stijn Demeester: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Two, actually. On battery materials, what's the actual volume outlook for 2027? If the platforms where you're exposed to are slow to ramp up this year, why would they recover next year as the market is now basically flooded with new model launches? A small one on recycling. What's the potential of a shutdown in 2027? Lastly, also from my end, all the best, Wannes.

Speaker #12: Then a small one on recycling: what's the potential of a shutdown in '27? And lastly, also from my end, all the best, Wannes.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you. Well, for 2027, I would say it's too early looking at the volume outlook. At the same time, again, referring to the CMD, we mapped out the volume trajectory looking at what has been contracted, but we also highlighted that we do see some slower take-up with those key customers, and that's what then needs to be compensated through the take-or-pay. Again, the exact volume outlook, the effective volume is somewhat difficult to project. Again, you have the trajectory as we shared in the CMD. Now, looking at the Recycling shutdown, this is where typically there's a lead time between 12 to 14 months in between shutdowns. Again, we would expect a shutdown in the course of next year.

Bart Sap: Thank you. Well, for 2027, I would say it's too early looking at the volume outlook. At the same time, again, referring to the CMD, we mapped out the volume trajectory looking at what has been contracted, but we also highlighted that we do see some slower take-up with those key customers, and that's what then needs to be compensated through the take-or-pay. Again, the exact volume outlook, the effective volume is somewhat difficult to project. Again, you have the trajectory as we shared in the CMD. Now, looking at the Recycling shutdown, this is where typically there's a lead time between 12 to 14 months in between shutdowns. Again, we would expect a shutdown in the course of next year.

Speaker #10: Well, for '27, I would say it's too early, looking at the volume outlook. At the same time, again referring to the CMD, we mapped out the volume trajectory, looking at what has been contracted.

Speaker #10: But we also highlighted that we do see some slower take-up with those key customers, and that's what then needs to be compensated through the take-up phase.

Speaker #10: So again, the exact volume outlook, the effective volumes, is somewhat higher. Not somewhat difficult to project. But again, we have the trajectory, as we shared in the CMD.

Speaker #10: Now, looking at the recycling shutdown, this is where typically there's a lead time between 12 to 14 months between shutdowns. So again, we would expect a shutdown in the course of next year.

Speaker #10: Thank you. You're welcome.

Ian Demisse: Thank you.

Stijn Demeester: Thank you.

Bart Sap: You're welcome.

Bart Sap: You're welcome.

Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Ranulf Orr with CT. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ranulf Orr with BP. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ranulf Orr with BP. Please go ahead.

Speaker #12: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Two, please. Firstly, just on catalysts—and, well, just on catalysts, really. Where do you see the long run normalized EBITDA margin for that business?

Ranulf Orr: Hi. Morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Two, please. Firstly, just on Catalysis. Well, just on Catalysis, really. Where do you see the long-run normalized EBITDA margin for that business? That would be super helpful to give some sort thoughts. Secondly, just on battery materials and the 2028 targets. If you maintain the current proportion of earnings from take-or-pay compensation that you have today, so if that ratio was the same in 2028, would you be able to hit that target? That would be my two. Thank you.

Ranulf Orr: Hi. Morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Two, please. Firstly, just on Catalysis. Well, just on Catalysis, really. Where do you see the long-run normalized EBITDA margin for that business? That would be super helpful to give some sort thoughts. Secondly, just on battery materials and the 2028 targets. If you maintain the current proportion of earnings from take-or-pay compensation that you have today, so if that ratio was the same in 2028, would you be able to hit that target? That would be my two. Thank you.

Speaker #12: That would be super helpful to give some sort of thoughts. And secondly, just on battery materials and the 2028 targets: if you maintain the current proportion of earnings from take-or-pay compensation that you have today—so, if that ratio was the same in 2028—would you be able to hit that target?

Speaker #12: That would be my two. Thank you.

Speaker #10: Yeah. So maybe looking at Catalysis, this is where what we had projected in the CMD was an adjusted EBITDA margin of 25%. Today, we are performing stronger.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Maybe looking at Catalysis, this is where what we have projected in the CMD was adjusted EBITDA margin of 25%. Today, we are performing stronger, but that's what we at least anticipated. Sorry, I think the question was on the trajectory, Wannes. The trajectory going out for Catalysis. I think that was Ranulf's question. Today, we continue to see a strong momentum in Catalysis here as well. We assume that that market will stay strong for us all the way to 2030. Now, today, we have, of course, some benefit as always, also from the metal price here, because we always indicated that 25% of the metal price uplift, that lee on platinum, palladium, rhodium is coming from that segment. I would assume the margins to remain very strong. Indicating the exact margin, probably it's too soon for that.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Maybe looking at Catalysis, this is where what we have projected in the CMD was adjusted EBITDA margin of 25%. Today, we are performing stronger, but that's what we at least anticipated. Sorry, I think the question was on the trajectory, Wannes. The trajectory going out for Catalysis. I think that was Ranulf's question. Today, we continue to see a strong momentum in Catalysis here as well. We assume that that market will stay strong for us all the way to 2030. Now, today, we have, of course, some benefit as always, also from the metal price here, because we always indicated that 25% of the metal price uplift, that lee on platinum, palladium, rhodium is coming from that segment. I would assume the margins to remain very strong. Indicating the exact margin, probably it's too soon for that.

Speaker #10: But that's what we, at least, anticipated.

Speaker #4: Sorry, I think the question was on the trajectory ones. Going to the trajectory going out for catalysis, I think that was Ranulf's question. So I mean, I think today, I think we continue to see a strong momentum in catalysis here as well.

Speaker #4: We assume that that market will stay strong for us all the way to 2030. Now, today, we have of course some benefit as always also from the metal price here because we always indicated that 25% of the metal price uplift that lead on Platinum Platinum Rhodium is coming from that segment.

Speaker #4: So I would assume the margins to remain very strong. Indicating the exact margin—probably it's too soon for that, Ranulf.

Ranulf Orr: No

Ranulf Orr: No

Ranulf Orr: Reynold.

Bart Sap: Reynold.

Speaker #10: Yeah.

Ranulf Orr: No.

Ranulf Orr: No.

Speaker #4: And the second question, can you remind me? Sorry. Oh, yeah, on the proportion of the take-or-pay, right? That was it. Yeah, yeah.

Bart Sap: The second question, can you remind me? Sorry.

Bart Sap: The second question, can you remind me? Sorry.

Ranulf Orr: Yeah, this is on the BASF.

Ranulf Orr: Yeah, this is on the BASF.

Bart Sap: Oh, yeah. On the proportion of the take-or-pay, right? That was it.

Bart Sap: Oh, yeah. On the proportion of the take-or-pay, right? That was it.

Ranulf Orr: Yeah.

Ranulf Orr: Yeah.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Exactly. We always said that the EUR 275, EUR 325 was a mix of, on the one hand, expected volume delivery and contractual take-or-pays. This statement has not changed, right? If that proportion changes, yes, okay, the variability between those two numbers could change somewhat. In essence, the take-or-pays have been built in such a way that if the volumes are not there, that they deliver a similar amount of EBITDA. We indeed would continue to stand by that EUR 275, EUR 325 by sticking to our contracts and, of course, then further enforcing our contractual rights if need be.

Bart Sap: Yeah. Exactly. We always said that the EUR 275, EUR 325 was a mix of, on the one hand, expected volume delivery and contractual take-or-pays. This statement has not changed, right? If that proportion changes, yes, okay, the variability between those two numbers could change somewhat. In essence, the take-or-pays have been built in such a way that if the volumes are not there, that they deliver a similar amount of EBITDA. We indeed would continue to stand by that EUR 275, EUR 325 by sticking to our contracts and, of course, then further enforcing our contractual rights if need be.

Speaker #4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now, I mean, we always said that the $275 to $325 was a mix of, on the one hand, expected volume delivery and contractual take-or-pays.

Speaker #4: This statement has not changed, right? So if that proportion changes, yes, okay, the variability between those two numbers could change somewhat. But in essence, the take-or-pays have been built in such a way that if the volumes are not there, they deliver a similar amount of EBITDA.

Speaker #4: So we indeed would continue to stand by that 275, 325 by sticking to our contracts, and of course then further enforcing our contractual rights if need be.

Speaker #10: Okay, thank you very much. And thanks again, Wannes. Thank you, Ranulf.

Ranulf Orr: Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you again, Wannes.

Ranulf Orr: Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you again, Wannes.

Bart Sap: Thank you, Reynold.

Bart Sap: Thank you, Reynold.

Speaker #3: Thank you, everyone. As we have no further questions at this time, I would now like to hand back to Bart Sap.

Operator: Thank you, everyone. We have no further questions at this time. I would like now to hand back to Bart Sap.

Operator: Thank you, everyone. We have no further questions at this time. I would like now to hand back to Bart Sap.

Speaker #4: Yes. So, thank you, everyone, for attending the call once more. I would like to reiterate that we are very pleased with our H1 2026 results.

Bart Sap: Yes. Thank you everyone for attending the call. Once more, I would like to reiterate that we are very pleased with our 2026 H1 results. As mentioned, they're broad based, and with broad based, I mean across all financial metrics as well as across all our activities and businesses. I would explicitly like to thank once more Wannes, but also the broader teams at Umicore. The results also showed of the transformation which we are doing, much more focused on what truly matters, efficiency driven. You start to see that we're starting to focus again on high quality organic growth. This is what you can further expect of us also going forward. Now, with that, I look forward to meeting many of you next week during our roadshow in London and, of course, also later on here in Belgium.

Bart Sap: Yes. Thank you everyone for attending the call. Once more, I would like to reiterate that we are very pleased with our 2026 H1 results. As mentioned, they're broad based, and with broad based, I mean across all financial metrics as well as across all our activities and businesses. I would explicitly like to thank once more Wannes, but also the broader teams at Umicore. The results also showed of the transformation which we are doing, much more focused on what truly matters, efficiency driven. You start to see that we're starting to focus again on high quality organic growth. This is what you can further expect of us also going forward. Now, with that, I look forward to meeting many of you next week during our roadshow in London and, of course, also later on here in Belgium.

Speaker #4: As mentioned, they're broad-based, and with broad-based, I mean across all financial metrics as well as across all our activities and businesses. I would explicitly like to thank once more Wannes, but also the broader teams at Umicore. The results also show the transformation which we are doing.

Speaker #4: Much more focused on what truly matters: efficiency-driven, but also, you start to see that we're beginning to focus again on high-quality organic growth. And this is what you can further expect from us going forward.

Speaker #4: Now, with that, I look forward to meeting many of you next week during our roadshow and in London, and of course also later on here in Belgium.

Speaker #4: So, all have a wonderful day, and talk to you soon.

Bart Sap: All have a wonderful day. Talk to you soon.

Bart Sap: All have a wonderful day. Talk to you soon.

Speaker #3: Thank you, everyone. That concludes our meeting today. Have a nice week, and thank you.

Operator: Thank you, everyone. That concludes our meeting today. Have a nice week, and thank you.

Operator: Thank you, everyone. That concludes our meeting today. Have a nice week, and thank you.

Ranulf Orr: Thank you.

Bart Sap: Thank you.

Ranulf Orr: Thank you.

Wannes Peferoen: Thank you.

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