Q2 2026 Bristol Myers Squibb Co Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Welcome to the BRISTOL MYERS SQUIBB second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero.
Operator: Welcome to the Bristol Myers Squibb Q2 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chuck Triano, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Welcome to the Bristol Myers Squibb Q2 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then oone on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chuck Triano, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chuck Triano, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining our second quarter 2026 earnings call. With me this morning with prepared remarks are Chris Boerner, our Board Chair and Chief Executive Officer; and David Elkins, our Chief Financial Officer.
Chuck Triano: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining our Q2 2026 earnings call. With me this morning with prepared remarks are Chris Boerner, our Board Chair and Chief Executive Officer, and David Elkins, our Chief Financial Officer. Also participating in today's call is Adam Lenkowsky, our Chief Commercialization Officer, and Cristian Massacesi, our Chief Medical Officer and Head of Global Drug Development. Earlier this morning, we posted our quarterly slide presentation to bms.com that you can use to follow along with Chris and David's remarks. Before we get started, I will remind everybody that during this call, we will make statements about the company's future plans and prospects that constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by those forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the company's SEC filings.
Chuck Triano: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining our Q2 2026 earnings call. With me this morning with prepared remarks are Chris Boerner, our Board Chair and Chief Executive Officer, and David Elkins, our Chief Financial Officer. Also participating in today's call is Adam Lenkowsky, our Chief Commercialization Officer, and Cristian Massacesi, our Chief Medical Officer and Head of Global Drug Development. Earlier this morning, we posted our quarterly slide presentation to bms.com that you can use to follow along with Chris and David's remarks. Before we get started, I will remind everybody that during this call, we will make statements about the company's future plans and prospects that constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by those forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the company's SEC filings.
Speaker #2: Also participating in today's call are Adam Linkowski, our Chief Commercialization Officer, and Christian Massacese, our Chief Medical Officer and Head of Global Drug Development.
Speaker #2: Earlier this morning, we posted our quarterly slide presentation to bms.com that you can use to follow along with Chris and David's remarks. Before we get started, I'll remind everybody that during this call we will make statements about the company's future plans and prospects that constitute forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the company's SEC filings.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements represent our estimates as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our estimates as of any future date, and we specifically disclaim any obligation to update forward-looking statements even if our estimates change.
Chuck Triano: These forward-looking statements represent our estimates as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our estimates as of any future date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update forward-looking statements, even if our estimates change. We will also focus our comments on our non-GAAP financial measures, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Reconciliations of certain non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are available at bms.com. Finally, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are made from the same period in 2025, and sales growth rates will be discussed on an underlying basis, which excludes the impact of foreign exchange. All references to our P&L are on a non-GAAP basis. With that, I will hand it over to Chris.
Chuck Triano: These forward-looking statements represent our estimates as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our estimates as of any future date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update forward-looking statements, even if our estimates change. We will also focus our comments on our non-GAAP financial measures, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Reconciliations of certain non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are available at bms.com. Finally, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are made from the same period in 2025, and sales growth rates will be discussed on an underlying basis, which excludes the impact of foreign exchange. All references to our P&L are on a non-GAAP basis. With that, I will hand it over to Chris.
Speaker #2: We'll also focus our comments on our non-GAAP financial measures, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Reconciliations of certain non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are available at BMS.com.
Speaker #2: Finally, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are made to the same period in 2025, and sales growth rates will be discussed on an underlying basis, which excludes the impact of foreign exchange.
Speaker #2: All references to our P&L are on a non-GAAP basis. And with that, I'll hand it over to Chris.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Chuck. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q2 2026 earnings call. We delivered another excellent quarter, driven by disciplined execution across the business.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Chuck. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our Q2 2026 earnings call. We delivered another excellent quarter driven by disciplined execution across the business. Our progress towards transitioning the portfolio to fuel durable long-term growth is reflected in our growth portfolio's strong Q2 performance. At the same time, we are delivering strong performance from our existing business. We are also advancing a broad and differentiated pipeline while maintaining financial flexibility to invest in the highest value opportunities for patients and shareholders. Together, these efforts continue to strengthen the foundation we are building and increase our confidence in our ability to grow the company as we exit the decade. Let me walk you through some of the highlights of our performance, beginning with our Q2 results on Slide four. Our growth portfolio continued its strong performance with sales up 14%.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Chuck. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our Q2 2026 earnings call. We delivered another excellent quarter driven by disciplined execution across the business. Our progress towards transitioning the portfolio to fuel durable long-term growth is reflected in our growth portfolio's strong Q2 performance. At the same time, we are delivering strong performance from our existing business. We are also advancing a broad and differentiated pipeline while maintaining financial flexibility to invest in the highest value opportunities for patients and shareholders. Together, these efforts continue to strengthen the foundation we are building and increase our confidence in our ability to grow the company as we exit the decade. Let me walk you through some of the highlights of our performance, beginning with our Q2 results on Slide four. Our growth portfolio continued its strong performance with sales up 14%.
Speaker #3: Our progress towards transitioning the portfolio to fuel durable long-term growth is reflected in our growth portfolios' strong Q2 performance. At the same time, we're delivering strong performance from our existing business.
Speaker #3: We're also advancing a broad and differentiated pipeline, while maintaining financial flexibility to invest in the highest-value opportunities for patients and shareholders. Together, these efforts continue to strengthen the foundation we're building and increase our confidence in our ability to grow the company as we exit the decade.
Speaker #3: Let me walk you through some of the highlights of our performance, beginning with our Q2 results on slide 4. Our growth portfolio continued its strong performance, with sales up 14%. Key assets, including Reblozyl, Breonzi, Kenzaios, OptiLag, and Qvantic, continued to perform well, with 10 products in our overall portfolio achieving double-digit growth.
Chris Boerner: Key assets including REBLOZYL, Breyanzi, CAMZYOS, Opdualag, and Juvanta continued to perform well, with 10 products in our overall portfolio achieving double-digit growth. This performance demonstrates both the value creation of our portfolio and the continued execution of our commercial organization. Based on the strength of our results, we are increasing our full year 2026 revenue and adjusted EPS guidance. David will provide additional details shortly. Building on our end market performance, our pipeline of differentiated assets is an important driver of our long-term growth, and we're making significant progress there as well. We had an exciting ASCO in June, where we shared data that reinforces the breadth of innovation across our leading oncology franchise. To highlight a few examples, in hematology, we presented positive phase III data from the mezigdomide SUCCESSOR-2 study evaluating MeziKd for patients with relapse or refractory multiple myeloma.
Chris Boerner: Key assets including REBLOZYL, Breyanzi, CAMZYOS, Opdualag, and Juvanta continued to perform well, with 10 products in our overall portfolio achieving double-digit growth. This performance demonstrates both the value creation of our portfolio and the continued execution of our commercial organization. Based on the strength of our results, we are increasing our full year 2026 revenue and adjusted EPS guidance. David will provide additional details shortly. Building on our end market performance, our pipeline of differentiated assets is an important driver of our long-term growth, and we're making significant progress there as well. We had an exciting ASCO in June, where we shared data that reinforces the breadth of innovation across our leading oncology franchise. To highlight a few examples, in hematology, we presented positive phase III data from the mezigdomide SUCCESSOR-2 study evaluating MeziKd for patients with relapse or refractory multiple myeloma.
Speaker #3: This performance demonstrates both the value creation of our portfolio and the continued execution of our commercial organization. Based on the strength of our results, we are increasing our full-year 2026 revenue and adjusted EPS guidance.
Speaker #3: David will provide additional details shortly. Building on our in-market performance, our pipeline of differentiated assets is an important driver of our long-term growth, and we're making significant progress there as well.
Speaker #3: We had an exciting ASCO in June, where we shared data that reinforces the breadth of innovation across our leading oncology franchise. To highlight a few examples, in hematology we presented positive phase 3 data from the Mesigamide successor 2 study evaluating MesikD for patients with relapse or refractory multiple myeloma.
Speaker #3: The study showed a statistically significant and clinically meaningful improvement in progression-free survival. This further strengthens our confidence in the cell mod class and its potential to drive the advancement of future myeloma treatment.
Chris Boerner: The study showed a statistically significant and clinically meaningful improvement in progression-free survival. This further strengthens our confidence in the CELMoD class and its potential to drive the advancement of future myeloma treatment. In solid tumors, we saw encouraging phase III data from two iza-bren studies supporting our strategy of building differentiated ADC capabilities across multiple difficult-to-treat solid tumors. We are also initiating our fourth global phase III study in first-line EGFR mutant non-small cell lung cancer. For Pemetig, we shared encouraging early phase II global data in combination with chemotherapy for first-line non-small cell lung cancer. In terms of our expanding development program, we are initiating a new phase II novel study combining Pemetig with Imzokitug, our CCR8 antibody. These programs reinforce the power of our innovation engine and support our strategy of combining different modalities to deliver transformational medicines and improve patient outcomes.
Chris Boerner: The study showed a statistically significant and clinically meaningful improvement in progression-free survival. This further strengthens our confidence in the CELMoD class and its potential to drive the advancement of future myeloma treatment. In solid tumors, we saw encouraging phase III data from two iza-bren studies supporting our strategy of building differentiated ADC capabilities across multiple difficult-to-treat solid tumors. We are also initiating our fourth global phase III study in first-line EGFR mutant non-small cell lung cancer. For Pemetig, we shared encouraging early phase II global data in combination with chemotherapy for first-line non-small cell lung cancer. In terms of our expanding development program, we are initiating a new phase II novel study combining Pemetig with Imzokitug, our CCR8 antibody. These programs reinforce the power of our innovation engine and support our strategy of combining different modalities to deliver transformational medicines and improve patient outcomes.
Speaker #3: In solid tumors, we saw encouraging phase 3 data from two Isobrin studies, supporting our strategy of building differentiated ADC capabilities across multiple difficult-to-treat solid tumors.
Speaker #3: We were also initiating our fourth global phase 3 study in first-line EGFR mutant non-small cell lung cancer. For pemidamid, we shared encouraging early phase 2 global data in combination with chemotherapy for first-line non-small cell lung cancer, and in terms of our expanding development program, we are initiating a new phase 2 novel novel study combining pemidamid with Imzocatag, our CCR8 antibody.
Speaker #3: These programs reinforce the power of our innovation engine and support our strategy of combining different modalities to deliver transformational medicines and improve patient outcomes.
Speaker #3: Turning now to our near-term pipeline milestones, we anticipate during the remainder of 2026 on slide 5. We've talked about our ambition to translate a data-rich pipeline into durable, long-term growth drivers, and we continue to expect pivotal readouts across our therapeutic areas by the end of this year.
Chris Boerner: Turning now to our near-term pipeline milestones we anticipate during the remainder of 2026 on Slide five. We've talked about our ambition to translate a data-rich pipeline into durable long-term growth drivers, and we continue to expect pivotal readouts across our therapeutic areas by the end of this year. These near-term readouts represent compelling opportunities, including admilparant, a potential first-in-class medicine that could redefine the standard of care in pulmonary fibrosis, arlo-cel in relapse or refractory multiple myeloma, Iberdomide progression-free survival data, Milvexian in secondary stroke prevention, RYZ101 in GEP-NETs, and Sotyktu in lupus, a disease affecting millions of patients with very limited treatment options. Each of these pipeline opportunities carries the potential to redefine treatment standards, addressing large underserved patient populations and helping to accelerate our long-term growth trajectory. Together, they represent multibillion-dollar peak sales potential and reflect the full depth and breadth of what we're building.
Chris Boerner: Turning now to our near-term pipeline milestones we anticipate during the remainder of 2026 on Slide five. We've talked about our ambition to translate a data-rich pipeline into durable long-term growth drivers, and we continue to expect pivotal readouts across our therapeutic areas by the end of this year. These near-term readouts represent compelling opportunities, including admilparant, a potential first-in-class medicine that could redefine the standard of care in pulmonary fibrosis, arlo-cel in relapse or refractory multiple myeloma, Iberdomide progression-free survival data, Milvexian in secondary stroke prevention, RYZ101 in GEP-NETs, and Sotyktu in lupus, a disease affecting millions of patients with very limited treatment options. Each of these pipeline opportunities carries the potential to redefine treatment standards, addressing large underserved patient populations and helping to accelerate our long-term growth trajectory. Together, they represent multibillion-dollar peak sales potential and reflect the full depth and breadth of what we're building.
Speaker #3: These near-term readouts represent compelling opportunities, including Admilparint, a potential first-in-class medicine that could redefine the standard of care in pulmonary fibrosis; ArloCell in relapsed or refractory multiple myeloma; ibertimide progression-free survival data; Milvexy in secondary stroke prevention; Raise 101 in GEP-NETs; and SoTik2 in lupus, a disease affecting millions of patients with very limited treatment options.
Speaker #3: Each of these pipeline opportunities carries the potential to redefine treatment standards, addressing large, underserved patient populations and helping to accelerate our long-term growth trajectory.
Speaker #3: Together, they represent multibillion-dollar peak sales potential and reflect the full depth and breadth of what we're building. For Milvexian, we now expect the atrial fibrillation study to read out in the first quarter of 2027.
Chris Boerner: For Milvexian, we now expect the atrial fibrillation study to read out in Q1 2027. This is an event-driven study, and the updated timing from late 2026 reflects the pace of events. As a reminder, the study is being monitored by an independent data monitoring committee, which continues to endorse the study. With the passage of time, as the study progresses, we are increasingly encouraged about Milvexian's potential and look forward to seeing the results of this important study. With respect to the Cobenfy development program in Alzheimer's psychosis, based on the pace of enrollment in the ADEPT-2 and ADEPT-4 studies and relapse events accruing more slowly than projected in ADEPT-1, we now anticipate top-line data readouts from the ADEPT program to begin in early 2027 and be spread across the year with the potential interim analysis for ADEPT-1 later this year.
Chris Boerner: For Milvexian, we now expect the atrial fibrillation study to read out in Q1 2027. This is an event-driven study, and the updated timing from late 2026 reflects the pace of events. As a reminder, the study is being monitored by an independent data monitoring committee, which continues to endorse the study. With the passage of time, as the study progresses, we are increasingly encouraged about Milvexian's potential and look forward to seeing the results of this important study. With respect to the Cobenfy development program in Alzheimer's psychosis, based on the pace of enrollment in the ADEPT-2 and ADEPT-4 studies and relapse events accruing more slowly than projected in ADEPT-1, we now anticipate top-line data readouts from the ADEPT program to begin in early 2027 and be spread across the year with the potential interim analysis for ADEPT-1 later this year.
Speaker #3: This is an event-driven study, and the updated timing from late 2026 reflects the pace of events. As a reminder, the study is being monitored by an independent data monitoring committee, which continues to endorse the study.
Speaker #3: And with the passage of time, as the study progresses, we are increasingly encouraged about Milvexian's potential and look forward to seeing the results of this important study.
Speaker #3: With respect to the Cobinfi development program in Alzheimer's psychosis, based on the pace of enrollment in the Adept 2 and 4 studies, and relapse events accruing more slowly than projected in Adept 1, we now anticipate top-line data readouts from the Adept program to begin in early 2027 and be spread across the year with the potential interim analysis for Adept 1 later this year.
Speaker #3: While we await those readouts, we look forward to sharing safety and efficacy data later this year from the open-label lead-in portion of Adept 1, as well as data from Adept 3, which is the open-label rollover study for patients who have already completed the Adept 1, 2, and 4 studies.
Chris Boerner: While we await those readouts, we look forward to sharing safety and efficacy data later this year from the open-label lead-in portion of ADEPT-1, as well as data from ADEPT-3, which is the open-label rollover study for patients who have already completed the ADEPT-1, 2, and 4 studies. These data reinforce our continued confidence in the potential for this medicine in Alzheimer's psychosis. Finally, our phase III BALSAM-1 and 2 studies evaluating Cobenfy in bipolar I disorder continue to enroll well, and we anticipate reading out in H1 2027. In addition to these upcoming data readouts, we're also beginning to see the next stage of our pipeline strategy come into focus as recent clinical progress translates into regulatory decisions.
Chris Boerner: While we await those readouts, we look forward to sharing safety and efficacy data later this year from the open-label lead-in portion of ADEPT-1, as well as data from ADEPT-3, which is the open-label rollover study for patients who have already completed the ADEPT-1, 2, and 4 studies. These data reinforce our continued confidence in the potential for this medicine in Alzheimer's psychosis. Finally, our phase III BALSAM-1 and 2 studies evaluating Cobenfy in bipolar I disorder continue to enroll well, and we anticipate reading out in H1 2027. In addition to these upcoming data readouts, we're also beginning to see the next stage of our pipeline strategy come into focus as recent clinical progress translates into regulatory decisions.
Speaker #3: These data, reinforce our continued confidence in the potential for this medicine in Alzheimer's psychosis. Finally, our phase 3 Balsam 1 and 2 studies evaluating Cobinfi in bipolar I disorder continue to enroll well, and we anticipate reading out in the first half of 2027.
Speaker #3: In addition to these upcoming data readouts, we're also beginning to see the next stage of our pipeline strategy come into focus as recent clinical progress translates into regulatory decisions.
Speaker #3: We are awaiting the August 17 PDUFA date for ibertimide and are ready for the launch of this important medicine, which has the potential to be the first commercialized cell mod.
Chris Boerner: We are awaiting the 17 August PDUFA date for Iberdomide and are ready for the launch of this important medicine, which has the potential to be the first commercialized CELMoD. This would represent a brand-new class of treatment for myeloma, a historically difficult-to-treat illness with a patient population that could significantly benefit from new innovative options. We're pleased that the FDA accepted our NDA for Mezigdomide with a PDUFA date of 13 May 2027. Together, Iberdomide and Mezigdomide continue to reinforce our confidence in the long-term potential of our protein degradation platform.
Chris Boerner: We are awaiting the 17 August PDUFA date for Iberdomide and are ready for the launch of this important medicine, which has the potential to be the first commercialized CELMoD. This would represent a brand-new class of treatment for myeloma, a historically difficult-to-treat illness with a patient population that could significantly benefit from new innovative options. We're pleased that the FDA accepted our NDA for Mezigdomide with a PDUFA date of 13 May 2027. Together, Iberdomide and Mezigdomide continue to reinforce our confidence in the long-term potential of our protein degradation platform.
Speaker #3: This would represent a brand-new class of treatment for myeloma, a historically difficult-to-treat illness with a patient population that could significantly benefit from new, innovative options.
Speaker #3: And we're pleased that the FDA accepted our NDA for Mesigamide, with the PDUFA date of May 13, 2027. Together, ibertimide and Mesigamide continue to reinforce our confidence in the long-term potential of our protein degradation platform.
Speaker #3: The FDA also recently accepted our supplemental NDA for Camzyosin adolescents with obstructive hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, and assigned a September 30 PDUFA date. At the same time, we continue to actively plan our previously announced phase 3 study evaluating Camzyos in patients with non-obstructive hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and expect to initiate the study by the end of the year.
Chris Boerner: The FDA also recently accepted our supplemental NDA for CAMZYOS in adolescents with obstructive hypertrophy cardiomyopathy and assigned a 30 September PDUFA date. At the same time, we continue to actively plan our previously announced phase III study evaluating CAMZYOS in patients with non-obstructive hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and expect to initiate the study by the end of the year. I want to step back for a moment and take stock of where we are and why I'm energized by what's to come. Our growth portfolio is delivering today, and our differentiated pipeline is on the verge of multiple pivotal readouts with the potential to introduce more than 10 new medicines by the end of the decade, including Iberdomide and Mezigdomide, both of which have upcoming PDUFA dates. In addition, we also anticipate over 30 meaningful lifecycle management opportunities during that same period.
Chris Boerner: The FDA also recently accepted our supplemental NDA for CAMZYOS in adolescents with obstructive hypertrophy cardiomyopathy and assigned a 30 September PDUFA date. At the same time, we continue to actively plan our previously announced phase III study evaluating CAMZYOS in patients with non-obstructive hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and expect to initiate the study by the end of the year. I want to step back for a moment and take stock of where we are and why I'm energized by what's to come. Our growth portfolio is delivering today, and our differentiated pipeline is on the verge of multiple pivotal readouts with the potential to introduce more than 10 new medicines by the end of the decade, including Iberdomide and Mezigdomide, both of which have upcoming PDUFA dates. In addition, we also anticipate over 30 meaningful lifecycle management opportunities during that same period.
Speaker #3: I want to step back for a moment and take stock of where we are and why I'm energized by what's to come. Our growth portfolio is delivering today, and our differentiated pipeline is on the verge of multiple pivotal readouts, with the potential to introduce more than 10 new medicines by the end of the decade, including ibertimide and mesigamide, both of which have upcoming PDUFA dates.
Speaker #3: In addition, we also anticipate over 30 meaningful lifecycle management opportunities during that same period. Our priorities are clear: continue executing with discipline, and translate differentiated science into transformational medicines for patients.
Chris Boerner: Our priorities are clear: continue executing with discipline and translate differentiated science into transformational medicines for patients. Turning to slide six, we continue to evolve how we operate as a company. Over the past few years, we've made significant progress rewiring BMS into a more agile, focused, and efficient organization. This includes expanding the use of AI to help our teams move faster, execute better, and operate more effectively. Over the past several years, BMS has embedded AI across its research and enterprise operations, and demand for compute has grown alongside the scale and maturity of our AI capabilities. In support of this expansion, we've recently announced partnership agreements with both Anthropic and NVIDIA. Concretely, this will help our scientists do three things: understand disease biology more deeply, design and test candidate molecules faster, and make earlier, better-informed decisions about which programs to move forward.
Chris Boerner: Our priorities are clear: continue executing with discipline and translate differentiated science into transformational medicines for patients. Turning to slide six, we continue to evolve how we operate as a company. Over the past few years, we've made significant progress rewiring BMS into a more agile, focused, and efficient organization. This includes expanding the use of AI to help our teams move faster, execute better, and operate more effectively. Over the past several years, BMS has embedded AI across its research and enterprise operations, and demand for compute has grown alongside the scale and maturity of our AI capabilities. In support of this expansion, we've recently announced partnership agreements with both Anthropic and NVIDIA. Concretely, this will help our scientists do three things: understand disease biology more deeply, design and test candidate molecules faster, and make earlier, better-informed decisions about which programs to move forward.
Speaker #3: Turning to slide 6, we continue to evolve how we operate as a company. Over the past few years, we've made significant progress rewiring BMS into a more agile, focused, and efficient organization.
Speaker #3: This includes expanding the use of AI to help our teams move faster, execute better, and operate more effectively. Over the past several years, BMS has embedded AI across its research and enterprise operations, and demand for compute has grown alongside the scale and maturity of our AI capabilities.
Speaker #3: In support of this expansion, we've recently announced partnership agreements with both Anthropic and NVIDIA, concretely this will help our scientists do three things: understand disease biology more deeply, design and test candidate molecules faster, and make earlier, better-informed decisions about which programs to move forward.
Speaker #3: At the same time, we remain disciplined in how we manage our resources. Our focus on productivity continues to generate meaningful savings. When combined with our strong free cash flow generation and balance sheet, these efforts continue to fortify the company's financial foundation.
Chris Boerner: At the same time, we remain disciplined in how we manage our resources. Our focus on productivity continues to generate meaningful savings. When combined with our strong free cash flow generation and balance sheet, these efforts continue to fortify the company's financial foundation. Before I turn the call over to David, I'll emphasize that the strong financial foundation we've built provides us with the optionality and flexibility to continue investing in growth drivers, pursuing business development opportunities, and returning cash to shareholders. With that, David, over to you.
Chris Boerner: At the same time, we remain disciplined in how we manage our resources. Our focus on productivity continues to generate meaningful savings. When combined with our strong free cash flow generation and balance sheet, these efforts continue to fortify the company's financial foundation. Before I turn the call over to David, I'll emphasize that the strong financial foundation we've built provides us with the optionality and flexibility to continue investing in growth drivers, pursuing business development opportunities, and returning cash to shareholders. With that, David, over to you.
Speaker #3: Before I turn the call over to David, I'll emphasize that the strong financial foundation we've built provides us with the optionality and flexibility to continue investing in growth drivers, pursuing business development opportunities, and returning cash to shareholders.
Speaker #3: And with that, David, over to you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another strong quarter, with results continuing to highlight the underlying strength of our growth portfolio, comprised of many products that are early in their lifecycles.
David Elkins: Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another strong quarter, with results continuing to highlight the underlying strength of our growth portfolio, comprised of many products that are early in their lifecycles. Our performance is also supported by disciplined investment and growth-oriented initiatives. Results were further bolstered by ELIQUIS. Based on this H1 momentum and confidence in our H2 outlook, we are raising our full-year guidance for both revenue and adjusted diluted EPS. Let me begin with a review of our Q2 results. Starting with slide eight, total revenue in the Q2 increased 5% year-over-year to approximately $13 billion, with strong performance of our growth portfolio offsetting legacy portfolio decline. Growth portfolio revenue grows 14% to $7.6 billion, now representing nearly 60% of total revenue.
David Elkins: Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another strong quarter, with results continuing to highlight the underlying strength of our growth portfolio, comprised of many products that are early in their lifecycles. Our performance is also supported by disciplined investment and growth-oriented initiatives. Results were further bolstered by ELIQUIS. Based on this H1 momentum and confidence in our H2 outlook, we are raising our full-year guidance for both revenue and adjusted diluted EPS. Let me begin with a review of our Q2 results. Starting with slide eight, total revenue in the Q2 increased 5% year-over-year to approximately $13 billion, with strong performance of our growth portfolio offsetting legacy portfolio decline. Growth portfolio revenue grows 14% to $7.6 billion, now representing nearly 60% of total revenue.
Speaker #2: Our performance is also supported by disciplined investment in growth-oriented initiatives, results were further bolstered by Eliquis, based on this first half momentum, and confidence in our second half outlook, we are raising our full-year guidance for both revenue and adjusted diluted EPS.
Speaker #2: Let me begin with a review of our second quarter results. Starting with slide 8, total revenue in the second quarter increased 5% year over year to approximately $13 billion.
Speaker #2: With strong performance of our growth portfolio, offsetting legacy portfolio decline. Growth portfolio revenue rose 14% to $7.6 billion, now representing nearly 60% of total revenue.
Speaker #2: As Chris referenced, multiple products contributed to this growth, as this portfolio continues to emerge as a broadening foundation for durable long-term growth, further supported by the broad pipeline.
David Elkins: As Chris referenced, multiple products contributed to this growth as this portfolio continues to emerge as a broadening foundation for durable long-term growth, further supported by the broad pipeline. Within the legacy portfolio, ELIQUIS delivered demand-driven growth of 21%, which nearly offset declines from generic entry across the remainder of the legacy portfolio. Despite full generic availability in the US, REVLIMID revenue remains more resilient. Turning to product performance on slide nine, starting with oncology. Juvanta continued its strong launch trajectory with revenue of $261 million and is now annualizing at over $1 billion. For OPDIVO, revenue decreased 4% to approximately $2.5 billion, primarily driven by continued conversion to Juvanta in the US. In the quarter, we saw some inventory build at the wholesale level, reversing some of the drawdown we referenced in the Q1.
David Elkins: As Chris referenced, multiple products contributed to this growth as this portfolio continues to emerge as a broadening foundation for durable long-term growth, further supported by the broad pipeline. Within the legacy portfolio, ELIQUIS delivered demand-driven growth of 21%, which nearly offset declines from generic entry across the remainder of the legacy portfolio. Despite full generic availability in the US, REVLIMID revenue remains more resilient. Turning to product performance on slide nine, starting with oncology. Juvanta continued its strong launch trajectory with revenue of $261 million and is now annualizing at over $1 billion. For OPDIVO, revenue decreased 4% to approximately $2.5 billion, primarily driven by continued conversion to Juvanta in the US. In the quarter, we saw some inventory build at the wholesale level, reversing some of the drawdown we referenced in the Q1.
Speaker #2: Within the legacy portfolio, Eliquis delivered demand-driven growth of 21%, which nearly offset declines from generic entry across the remainder of the legacy portfolio, despite full generic availability in the US, Revlimid revenue remains more resilient.
Speaker #2: Turning to product performance on Slide 9, starting with Oncology, Juvantic continued its strong launch trajectory with revenue of $261 million, and is now annualizing at over $1 billion.
Speaker #2: For Opdivo, revenue decreased 4% to approximately $2.5 billion. Primarily driven by continued conversion to Juvantic in the US. In the quarter, we saw some inventory build at the wholesale level, reversing some of the drawdown we referenced in the first quarter.
Speaker #2: Opdivo delivered another quarter of strong double-digit growth, which continues to be driven by demand globally and its leading position as a standard of care and first-line melanoma treatment in the US.
David Elkins: Opdualag delivered another quarter of strong double-digit growth, which continues to be driven by demand globally and its leading position as a standard of care in first-line melanoma in the US. Turning to slide 10, REBLOZYL grew 29%, reflecting solid uptake in first-line MDS-associated anemia, continued strength in the second-line setting, and further penetration in the first-line Rh-negative population. Breyanzi posted 41% growth in the Q2, driven by its best-in-class profile and strong demand across approved indications in both the US and international markets. As in prior years, we anticipate the typical summer demand patterns to moderate growth in the Q3.
David Elkins: Opdualag delivered another quarter of strong double-digit growth, which continues to be driven by demand globally and its leading position as a standard of care in first-line melanoma in the US. Turning to slide 10, REBLOZYL grew 29%, reflecting solid uptake in first-line MDS-associated anemia, continued strength in the second-line setting, and further penetration in the first-line Rh-negative population. Breyanzi posted 41% growth in the Q2, driven by its best-in-class profile and strong demand across approved indications in both the US and international markets. As in prior years, we anticipate the typical summer demand patterns to moderate growth in the Q3.
Speaker #2: Turning to slide 10, Reblozyl grew 29%, reflecting solid uptake in first-line MDS-associated anemia, continued strength in the second-line setting, and further penetration in the first-line RS-negative population.
Speaker #2: Brianzi posted 41% growth in the second quarter, driven by its best-in-class profile and strong demand across approved indications in both the U.S. and international markets.
Speaker #2: As in prior years, we anticipate the typical summer demand patterns to moderate growth in the third quarter. Moving to Cardiovascular and Immunology on slide 11, Eliquis revenue was approximately $4.5 billion, up 21%, driven by strong demand through continued market share gains.
Speaker #2: As a result of the price decrease implemented at the start of the year, US second-half sales are expected to benefit from the elimination of the accumulated CPI penalty in certain government channels.
David Elkins: As a result of the price decrease implemented at the start of the year, US H2 sales are expected to benefit from the elimination of the accumulated CPI penalty in certain government channels. CAMZYOS revenues increased 59% to $416 million, reflecting continued promotional efforts, new patient prescriber additions, and deeper penetration into the community setting. Moving to immunology. Global revenue for Sotyktu grew 23%. We are supporting the recent indication for psoriatic arthritis in adults, and we look forward to the phase III readouts in lupus later this year. I will wrap up our product performance review on slide 12 with neuroscience. Cobenfy grew 81% to $63 million in revenue in the quarter, reflecting continued steady progress in the schizophrenia market. Let's now move to the P&L on slide 13. Gross margin in Q2 was 71.4%, reflecting product mix.
David Elkins: As a result of the price decrease implemented at the start of the year, US H2 sales are expected to benefit from the elimination of the accumulated CPI penalty in certain government channels. CAMZYOS revenues increased 59% to $416 million, reflecting continued promotional efforts, new patient prescriber additions, and deeper penetration into the community setting. Moving to immunology. Global revenue for Sotyktu grew 23%. We are supporting the recent indication for psoriatic arthritis in adults, and we look forward to the phase III readouts in lupus later this year. I will wrap up our product performance review on slide 12 with neuroscience. Cobenfy grew 81% to $63 million in revenue in the quarter, reflecting continued steady progress in the schizophrenia market. Let's now move to the P&L on slide 13. Gross margin in Q2 was 71.4%, reflecting product mix.
Speaker #2: Camzyos revenues increased 59% to $416 million, reflecting continued promotional efforts, new patient prescriber additions, and deeper penetration into the community setting. Now, moving to immunology.
Speaker #2: Global revenue for Staticto grew 23%. We are supporting the recent indication for psoriatic arthritis in adults, and we look forward to the Phase 3 readouts in lupus later this year.
Speaker #2: I will wrap up our product performance review on slide 12 with Neuroscience. Juvantic grew 81% to $63 million in revenue in the quarter, reflecting continued steady progress in the schizophrenia market.
Speaker #2: Let's now move to the P&L on slide 13. Gross margin in the second quarter was 71.4%, reflecting product mix. Operating expenses for the second quarter were $4.1 billion.
David Elkins: Operating expenses for Q2 were $4.1 billion. We continue to benefit from our strategic productivity initiative, which provides us both the ability to reduce expenses in identified areas as well as the flexibility to invest in multiple growth-oriented opportunities. Our effective tax rate in the quarter was 16.5%, reflecting jurisdictional earnings mix. Overall, diluted earnings per share were $2.04 for the quarter. Turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation highlights on slide 14. We remain in a strong financial position with approximately $11.5 billion in cash equivalents and marketable securities as of 30 June. In Q2, we generated approximately $3.4 billion in operating cash flow and paid down an additional $1.2 billion in debt. In terms of capital allocation, we maintain a strategic and balanced approach to deploying our strong cash flows.
David Elkins: Operating expenses for Q2 were $4.1 billion. We continue to benefit from our strategic productivity initiative, which provides us both the ability to reduce expenses in identified areas as well as the flexibility to invest in multiple growth-oriented opportunities. Our effective tax rate in the quarter was 16.5%, reflecting jurisdictional earnings mix. Overall, diluted earnings per share were $2.04 for the quarter. Turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation highlights on slide 14. We remain in a strong financial position with approximately $11.5 billion in cash equivalents and marketable securities as of 30 June. In Q2, we generated approximately $3.4 billion in operating cash flow and paid down an additional $1.2 billion in debt. In terms of capital allocation, we maintain a strategic and balanced approach to deploying our strong cash flows.
Speaker #2: We continue to benefit from our strategic productivity initiative, which provides us both the ability to reduce expenses and identified areas, as well as the flexibility to invest in multiple growth-oriented opportunities.
Speaker #2: Our effective tax rate in the quarter was 16.5%, reflecting jurisdictional earnings mix. Overall, diluted earnings per share were $2.04 for the quarter. Now, turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation highlights on slide 14, we remain in a strong financial position, with approximately $11.5 billion in cash equivalents and marketable securities as of June 30th.
Speaker #2: In the second quarter, we generated approximately $3.4 billion in operating cash flow, and paid down an additional $1.2 billion in debt. In terms of capital allocation, we maintain a strategic and balanced approach to deploying our strong cash flows.
Speaker #2: This is development remains a priority, and we are regularly evaluating opportunities in a therapeutic area as we know best. While continuing to return cash to shareholders through our commitment to the dividend.
David Elkins: Business development remains a priority. We are regularly evaluating opportunities in the therapeutic areas we know best while continuing to return cash to shareholders through our commitment to the dividend. Moving to guidance on slide 15, we are increasing our full year 2026 financial guidance for both revenue and adjusted diluted EPS based upon our strong H1 results and our current projections for the balance of the year, while maintaining our projections for gross margin, other income and expense, and our tax rate. Incorporated into these revisions are projected higher ELIQUIS revenue growth of 20% to 25% and a less pronounced total legacy portfolio revenue decrease now expected to be between 4% and 6%.
David Elkins: Business development remains a priority. We are regularly evaluating opportunities in the therapeutic areas we know best while continuing to return cash to shareholders through our commitment to the dividend. Moving to guidance on slide 15, we are increasing our full year 2026 financial guidance for both revenue and adjusted diluted EPS based upon our strong H1 results and our current projections for the balance of the year, while maintaining our projections for gross margin, other income and expense, and our tax rate. Incorporated into these revisions are projected higher ELIQUIS revenue growth of 20% to 25% and a less pronounced total legacy portfolio revenue decrease now expected to be between 4% and 6%.
Speaker #2: Moving to guidance on slide 15, we are increasing our full-year 2026 financial guidance for both revenue and adjusted diluted EPS, based on our strong first-half results and our current projections for the balance of the year.
Speaker #2: While maintaining our projections for gross margin, other income and expense, and our tax rate. Incorporated into these revisions, our projected higher Eliquis revenue growth of 20 to 25%, and a less pronounced total legacy portfolio revenue decrease, now expected to be between 4 and 6%.
Speaker #2: We have slightly increased our projected operating expenses for the year to account for accelerate pre-launch activities, supporting our sell mods by Bertimide and Mizygtimide, the expanding Pumidamig development program, and opportunities to further support the growth portfolio.
David Elkins: We have slightly increased our projected operating expenses for the year to account for accelerated pre-launch activities, supporting our CELMoDs, Iberdomide and Mezigdomide, the expanding pomalidomide development program, and opportunities to further support the growth portfolio. To reiterate Chris's comment, our strategy remains focused on driving execution across the organization to build momentum in our growth portfolio and advance our pipeline while maintaining financial flexibility to balance investment in future growth with disciplined, shareholder-friendly capital allocation. In closing, our strong performance in the quarter reinforces our confidence to deliver long-term value for our patients and shareholders. With that, I'll now turn the call back over to Chuck for Q&A.
David Elkins: We have slightly increased our projected operating expenses for the year to account for accelerated pre-launch activities, supporting our CELMoDs, Iberdomide and Mezigdomide, the expanding pomalidomide development program, and opportunities to further support the growth portfolio. To reiterate Chris's comment, our strategy remains focused on driving execution across the organization to build momentum in our growth portfolio and advance our pipeline while maintaining financial flexibility to balance investment in future growth with disciplined, shareholder-friendly capital allocation. In closing, our strong performance in the quarter reinforces our confidence to deliver long-term value for our patients and shareholders. With that, I'll now turn the call back over to Chuck for Q&A.
Speaker #2: And to reiterate Chris's comment, our strategy remains focused on driving execution across the organization to build momentum in our growth portfolio and advance our pipeline, while maintaining financial flexibility to balance investment and future growth with discipline shareholder-friendly capital allocation.
Speaker #2: In closing, our strong performance in the quarter reinforces our confidence to deliver long-term value for our patients and shareholders. And with that, I'll now turn the call back over to Chuck for Q&A.
Speaker #3: Thanks, David. And everybody, if you could please help us post questions operator, and we'll get started with the Q&A session.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, David. Everybody, if you could please help us post questions, operator, and we'll get started with the Q&A session.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, David. Everybody, if you could please help us post questions, operator, and we'll get started with the Q&A session.
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Speaker #4: The first question today comes from Jeff Meacham with Citibank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question, and congrats on the quarter. Chris or Christian, I just—I guess I just wanted to talk about the ADEPT and Milvexian studies going into 2027.
Geoff Meacham: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. Congrats on the quarter. Chris or Cristian, I guess I just wanted to talk about the ADEPT and Milvexian studies going into 2027. I know they're event-driven, maybe can you talk a little bit about what this means relative to your initial assumptions? Is there something in the patient population maybe that has changed or that is perhaps different than what you guys initially assumed? Just wanted to get a little bit more context for both of those. Thank you.
Geoff Meacham: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. Congrats on the quarter. Chris or Cristian, I guess I just wanted to talk about the ADEPT and Milvexian studies going into 2027. I know they're event-driven, maybe can you talk a little bit about what this means relative to your initial assumptions? Is there something in the patient population maybe that has changed or that is perhaps different than what you guys initially assumed? Just wanted to get a little bit more context for both of those. Thank you.
Speaker #5: I know they're event-driven, but maybe can you talk a little bit about what this means relative to your initial assumptions? Is there something in the patient population maybe that has changed or that is perhaps different than what you guys initially assumed?
Speaker #5: Just wanted to get a little bit more context for both of those. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Good morning, Jeff, and thanks for the question. Christian.
Chuck Triano: Morning, Geoff, and thanks for the question. Cristian?
Chris Boerner: Morning, Geoff, and thanks for the question. Cristian?
Speaker #7: Good morning, Jeff. Thanks for the question. Let me start with Camzyos, with ADEPT. First, let me explain the reasons for the delay. Chris highlighted this in his opening remarks, and let me dig into it.
Cristian Massacesi: Good morning, Geoff. Thanks for the question. Let me start with Cobenfy, with ADEPT. First, let me explain the reasons for the delay. Chris highlighted in his opening remarks, but let me dig into it. In ADEPT1, you know we are recruiting events, psychotic relapses, and we are having now slower pace of how we are recruiting these events than predicted. This can be seen overall as a positive way. Anyway, ADEPT1 will be the first interim analysis read out by the end of this year or beginning next year. In ADEPT2 and ADEPT4 is different because like for the rest of Cobenfy program, the first priority has been to ensure the highest quality in terms of the patients we are including in the trial, the conduction of the study.
Cristian Massacesi: Good morning, Geoff. Thanks for the question. Let me start with Cobenfy, with ADEPT. First, let me explain the reasons for the delay. Chris highlighted in his opening remarks, but let me dig into it. In ADEPT1, you know we are recruiting events, psychotic relapses, and we are having now slower pace of how we are recruiting these events than predicted. This can be seen overall as a positive way. Anyway, ADEPT1 will be the first interim analysis read out by the end of this year or beginning next year. In ADEPT2 and ADEPT4 is different because like for the rest of Cobenfy program, the first priority has been to ensure the highest quality in terms of the patients we are including in the trial, the conduction of the study.
Speaker #7: In adept one, you know we are recruiting events, psychotic relapses, and we are having now slower pace of how we are recruiting these events than predicted.
Speaker #7: So this is can be seen overall as a positive way. And anyway, adept one, we'll be the first interim analysis to read out by the end of this year or beginning next year.
Speaker #7: In adept two, in adept four, is different because like for the rest of Cobenfi program, the first priority has been to ensure the highest quality in terms of the patients we are including in the trial, the conduction of the study, if you think about it, this is one of the best ways to ensure for these trials the highest chance of success, and then this is very important also to support the registration.
Cristian Massacesi: If you think about it, this is one of the best ways to ensure for these trials the highest chance of success. This is very important also to support the registration. This scrutiny in preserving quality and increasing quality impacted the enrollment base. The second point I want to make is about where we are now. I think we have implemented now several measures to accelerate this enrollment, and I think the pace and the projections on timelines are solid. Finally, related to your question on ADEPT program overall, there has been no change in any way in our confidence in both the underlying science, the scientific rationale, and also the study designs that we are implementing in ADEPT program. We continue to believe that Cobenfy can provide a substantial benefit to patients with Alzheimer's disease and psychosis.
Cristian Massacesi: If you think about it, this is one of the best ways to ensure for these trials the highest chance of success. This is very important also to support the registration. This scrutiny in preserving quality and increasing quality impacted the enrollment base. The second point I want to make is about where we are now. I think we have implemented now several measures to accelerate this enrollment, and I think the pace and the projections on timelines are solid. Finally, related to your question on ADEPT program overall, there has been no change in any way in our confidence in both the underlying science, the scientific rationale, and also the study designs that we are implementing in ADEPT program. We continue to believe that Cobenfy can provide a substantial benefit to patients with Alzheimer's disease and psychosis.
Speaker #7: So this scrutiny in preserving quality and increasing quality impacted the enrollment rates. The second point I want to make is about where we are now.
Speaker #7: I think we have implemented now several measures to accelerate this enrollment, and I think the pace and the projections on timelines are solid. Finally, related to your question on adept program overall, there has been no change in any way in our confidence in both the underlying science, the scientific rationale, and also the study designs that we are implementing in adept program.
Speaker #7: We continue to believe that RXT can provide a substantial benefit to patients with Alzheimer's disease and psychosis. And actually, this is the main reasons we decided to share the open label data of adept one and the rollover adept three data in one of the next meeting of forums later this year.
Cristian Massacesi: Actually, this is the main reason we decided to share the open label data of ADEPT1 and the rollover ADEPT3 data in one of the next meeting or forums later this year. Moving to Milvexian, as you said and Chris said, first of all, we remain blinded, but this shifting into Q1 2027 of AF timelines is again, simply a reflection of the way the pace we are recruiting events. It is lower than predicted. DMC continued to oversee the study in a regular way and continue to endorse the conduction of the study. I see favorably this delay, because actually give us more confidence that we are at target for both the primary endpoint, non-inferiority, and the secondary endpoint, superiority of readings. I remain very excited Milvexian can be the first Factor XI drug to be at parity on efficacy with ELIQUIS, but beating ELIQUIS on readings.
Cristian Massacesi: Actually, this is the main reason we decided to share the open label data of ADEPT1 and the rollover ADEPT3 data in one of the next meeting or forums later this year. Moving to Milvexian, as you said and Chris said, first of all, we remain blinded, but this shifting into Q1 2027 of AF timelines is again, simply a reflection of the way the pace we are recruiting events. It is lower than predicted. DMC continued to oversee the study in a regular way and continue to endorse the conduction of the study. I see favorably this delay, because actually give us more confidence that we are at target for both the primary endpoint, non-inferiority, and the secondary endpoint, superiority of readings. I remain very excited Milvexian can be the first Factor XI drug to be at parity on efficacy with ELIQUIS, but beating ELIQUIS on readings.
Speaker #7: Moving to Milvexian, as you said, and Chris said, first of all, we remain blinded, but this shifting into first quarter 27 of AFIB timelines is, again, simply a reflection of the way the pace we are recruiting events.
Speaker #7: It is slower than predicted. DMC continue to oversee the study in a regular way, and continue to endorse the conduction of the study. I see favorably this delay.
Speaker #7: Because, actually, it gives us more confidence that we are on track for both the primary endpoint, non-inferiority, and the secondary endpoint, superiority over lead-ins. I remain very excited.
Speaker #7: Milvexian can be the first factor 11 drug to be a parity on efficacy with Eliquis, not beating Eliquis on leadings.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks for the detail, Christian. Let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thanks for the detail, Cristian. Let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thanks for the detail, Cristian. Let's take our next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Chris Shot with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Chris Schott with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Chris Schott with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks so much. Just following up on Milvexian, I guess beyond just the non-inferiority primary endpoint, I think there's a debate on the street of what type of hazard ratio you need to see for this drug to get broad adoption, cannibalizing sizable pieces of Eliquis.
Chris Schott: Great. Thanks so much. Just following up on Milvexian. I guess beyond just the non-inferiority primary endpoint, I think there's a debate on the street of what type of hazard ratio you need to see for this drug to get broad adoption, cannibalizing sizable pieces of ELIQUIS versus just targeting maybe an underserved segment of the AF market. Can you just help frame out what you think you'd need to see from that study for this to be a very large opportunity for Bristol versus what would be maybe more of just an incremental new product for the company, just in terms of how strong that data has to be? If I just throw a second one in really quickly. On the guidance increase, can you just talk a little bit about the drivers of the upside for the growth portfolio that's implied in the guidance?
Chris Schott: Great. Thanks so much. Just following up on Milvexian. I guess beyond just the non-inferiority primary endpoint, I think there's a debate on the street of what type of hazard ratio you need to see for this drug to get broad adoption, cannibalizing sizable pieces of ELIQUIS versus just targeting maybe an underserved segment of the AF market. Can you just help frame out what you think you'd need to see from that study for this to be a very large opportunity for Bristol versus what would be maybe more of just an incremental new product for the company, just in terms of how strong that data has to be? If I just throw a second one in really quickly. On the guidance increase, can you just talk a little bit about the drivers of the upside for the growth portfolio that's implied in the guidance?
Speaker #5: Versus just targeting maybe an underserved segment of the AF market. Can you just help frame out what you think you'd need to see from that study for this to be a very large opportunity for Bristol versus what would be maybe more interesting incremental new product for the company just in terms of how strong that data has to be?
Speaker #5: And if I just throw a second one in really quickly, on the guidance increase, can you just talk a little bit about the drivers of the upside for the growth portfolio that's implied in the guidance?
Speaker #5: I guess are there any standout assets that are driving that upside? Thanks so much.
Chris Schott: I guess, are there any standout assets that are driving that upside? Thanks so much.
Chris Schott: I guess, are there any standout assets that are driving that upside? Thanks so much.
Speaker #3: Thanks for the question, Chris. I'll ask Adam to start and then David, you can jump in on guidance.
Chris Boerner: Thanks for the question, Chris. I'll ask Adam to start, and then David, you can jump in on guidance.
Chris Boerner: Thanks for the question, Chris. I'll ask Adam to start, and then David, you can jump in on guidance.
Speaker #2: Great. Thank you, Chris. Good morning. So Milvexian represents a significant commercial opportunity, and we know there is a need for a medicine that has low bleeding risk, lower than Eliquis, and can play across both AFib and SSP.
Adam Lenkowsky: Great. Thank you, Chris. Good morning. Milvexian represents a significant commercial opportunity, and we know there is a need for a medicine that has low bleeding risk, lower than ELIQUIS, and can play across both AFib and SSP. As far as the atrial fibrillation opportunity, this is a very large market. There are approximately 10 million patients diagnosed and treated in the US. We know this market well, we know the customers well, and we know what it takes to compete and win. Fear of bleeding continues to be the main reason why clinicians continue to hold back from using more Factor Xa in more patients. Despite what we see today with ELIQUIS, there is still roughly 40% of patients who should be anticoagulated, who are undertreated, they are underdosed, who discontinue treatment, and that is driven largely by physician concerns around bleeding risk.
Adam Lenkowsky: Great. Thank you, Chris. Good morning. Milvexian represents a significant commercial opportunity, and we know there is a need for a medicine that has low bleeding risk, lower than ELIQUIS, and can play across both AFib and SSP. As far as the atrial fibrillation opportunity, this is a very large market. There are approximately 10 million patients diagnosed and treated in the US. We know this market well, we know the customers well, and we know what it takes to compete and win. Fear of bleeding continues to be the main reason why clinicians continue to hold back from using more Factor Xa in more patients. Despite what we see today with ELIQUIS, there is still roughly 40% of patients who should be anticoagulated, who are undertreated, they are underdosed, who discontinue treatment, and that is driven largely by physician concerns around bleeding risk.
Speaker #2: As far as the atrial fibrillation opportunity, this is a very large market. There are approximately 10 million patients diagnosed and treated in the US.
Speaker #2: We know this market well. We know the customers well, and we know what it takes to compete and win. Fear of bleeding continues to be the main reason why clinicians continue to hold back from using more factor XAs.
Speaker #2: In more patients. And despite what we see today with Eliquis, there's still roughly 40% of patients who should be anticoagulated who are under-treated, they're underdosed, who just discontinue treatment.
Speaker #2: And that's driven largely by physician concerns around bleeding risk. And so I don't think it makes sense to speculate on hazard ratio, but what I can say is, our study, as Christian mentioned, was designed to demonstrate a superior bleeding profile compared to Eliquis, with comparable efficacy.
Adam Lenkowsky: I don't think it makes sense to speculate on hazard ratio. What I can say is, our study, as Cristian mentioned, was designed to demonstrate a superior bleeding profile compared to ELIQUIS with comparable efficacy. AFib patients with bleeding liability risk factors are more likely to experience HCP hesitation today for anticoagulation treatment. For example, patients who are elderly, low body weight represent a high unmet need. Patients who have renal impairment. Milvexian has the potential not just to unlock those patients, but also we expect Milvexian to shift first-line decision-making over time, allowing physicians to initiate and maintain Milvexian treatment more confidently than they can even do today by using ELIQUIS.
Adam Lenkowsky: I don't think it makes sense to speculate on hazard ratio. What I can say is, our study, as Cristian mentioned, was designed to demonstrate a superior bleeding profile compared to ELIQUIS with comparable efficacy. AFib patients with bleeding liability risk factors are more likely to experience HCP hesitation today for anticoagulation treatment. For example, patients who are elderly, low body weight represent a high unmet need. Patients who have renal impairment. Milvexian has the potential not just to unlock those patients, but also we expect Milvexian to shift first-line decision-making over time, allowing physicians to initiate and maintain Milvexian treatment more confidently than they can even do today by using ELIQUIS.
Speaker #2: And so AFib patients with bleeding liability risk factors are more likely to experience HCP hesitation today for anticoagulation treatment. So for example, patients who are elderly, low body weight, represent a high unmet need.
Speaker #2: Patients who have renal impairment—and Milvexian has the potential not just to unlock those patients, but also, we expect Milvexian to shift first-line decision-making over time, allowing physicians to initiate and maintain Milvexian treatment more confidently than they can even do today.
Speaker #2: By using Eliquis.
Speaker #3: Thank you. And on guidance, Chris, look, it was you saw in the results, it was pretty pervasive across the growth portfolio. We saw really strong growth.
Chris Boerner: Thank you. On guidance, Chris, look, you saw in the results, it was pretty pervasive across the growth portfolio. We saw really strong growth. OPDULAG was up 22%, REBLOZYL 29%, BREYANZI, we continue to see great growth there at 41%, and CAMZYOS was at 59%. As we also talked about the CAMZYOS now, we got 15% share, so well on our way to that 30% to 40%. It is now annualizing over $1 billion. If you look at CAMZYOS and OPDIVO together, we are really pleased with the progress of that franchise. It really is the underlying business coupled with the strong performance from a demand perspective on ELIQUIS that gives us confidence in our guidance for the year.
David Elkins: Thank you. On guidance, Chris, look, you saw in the results, it was pretty pervasive across the growth portfolio. We saw really strong growth. OPDULAG was up 22%, REBLOZYL 29%, BREYANZI, we continue to see great growth there at 41%, and CAMZYOS was at 59%. As we also talked about the CAMZYOS now, we got 15% share, so well on our way to that 30% to 40%. It is now annualizing over $1 billion. If you look at CAMZYOS and OPDIVO together, we are really pleased with the progress of that franchise. It really is the underlying business coupled with the strong performance from a demand perspective on ELIQUIS that gives us confidence in our guidance for the year.
Speaker #3: Opdualag was up 22%, Reblozyl 29%, Breyanzi would continue to see great growth there at 41%, and Camzyos was at 59%. And as we also talked about, with Qvantic now, we've got 15% share.
Speaker #3: So well on our way to that 30 to 40%. And it's now annualizing over a billion. So if you look at Qvantic and Optiva together, we're really pleased with the progress of that franchise.
Speaker #3: So it really is the underlying business coupled with the strong performance of from a demand perspective on Eliquis, that gives us confidence in our guidance for the year.
Speaker #6: Thanks, guys.
Chris Schott: Thanks, guys.
Chris Schott: Thanks, guys.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Let's take our next question, please, operator.
Chris Boerner: Let's take our next question, please, operator.
Chuck Triano: Let's take our next question, please, operator.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Evan Segerman with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Evan Seigerman with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Evan Seigerman with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my question. I'm going to not ask one on Milvexian or the ADEPT program, but, taking a step back, you've been clear that BD remains a really important part of your long-term growth strategy.
Evan Seigerman: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my question. I'm going to not ask one on Milvexian or the ADEPT program. Taking a step back, you've been clear that BD remains a really important part of your long-term growth strategy. Can you just walk me through what excites you in biotech these days and kind of where you would look? I know you're not going to give specifics, what type of technologies or therapeutic areas do you think would best fit within Bristol's portfolio? Thank you.
Evan Seigerman: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my question. I'm going to not ask one on Milvexian or the ADEPT program. Taking a step back, you've been clear that BD remains a really important part of your long-term growth strategy. Can you just walk me through what excites you in biotech these days and kind of where you would look? I know you're not going to give specifics, what type of technologies or therapeutic areas do you think would best fit within Bristol's portfolio? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Can you just walk me through what excites you in biotech these days and kind of where you would look? I know you're not going to give specifics, but what type of technologies or therapeutic areas do you think would best fit within Bristol's portfolio?
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #6: So maybe I'll start, and then I'll ask Christian to chime in. Look, thanks for the question, Evan. Business development, as you know, and as we've discussed repeatedly, continues to be a top allocation priority.
Chris Boerner: Maybe I'll start, and then I'll ask Christian to chime in. Look, thanks for the question, Evan. Business development, as you know and as we've discussed repeatedly, continues to be a top allocation priority. The way I think about BD just at a macro level is we've got a very strong late-stage pipeline. You see that in the commentary that we've made just this morning. We certainly don't feel any compulsion to chase deals, as we've said consistently, if there's an opportunity that we can find that has a few things that are important to us, notably they're in therapeutic areas that we know well, they're areas where the science is compelling, and of course, we need to be able to make a compelling case financially that we can drive value to the company and to shareholders.
Chris Boerner: Maybe I'll start, and then I'll ask Christian to chime in. Look, thanks for the question, Evan. Business development, as you know and as we've discussed repeatedly, continues to be a top allocation priority. The way I think about BD just at a macro level is we've got a very strong late-stage pipeline. You see that in the commentary that we've made just this morning. We certainly don't feel any compulsion to chase deals, as we've said consistently, if there's an opportunity that we can find that has a few things that are important to us, notably they're in therapeutic areas that we know well, they're areas where the science is compelling, and of course, we need to be able to make a compelling case financially that we can drive value to the company and to shareholders.
Speaker #6: The way I think about BD just at a macro level is we've got a very strong late-stage pipeline. You see that in the commentary that we've made just this morning.
Speaker #6: We certainly don't feel any compulsion to chase deals, but as we've said consistently, if there's an opportunity that we can find that has a few things that are important to us, notably they're in therapeutic areas that we know well, they're areas where the science is compelling, and of course, we need to be able to make a compelling case financially that we can drive value to the company and to shareholders.
Speaker #6: If those things come together and ideally continue to enable us to de-risk our nearer-term growth profile, we certainly have the financial flexibility and the capabilities to be in the mix.
Chris Boerner: If those things come together and ideally continue to enable us to de-risk our nearer term growth profile, we certainly have the financial flexibility and the capabilities to be in the mix. That's been our guiding philosophy around business development for some time now, and it continues to be our focus. Cristian, are there particular areas you would highlight?
Chris Boerner: If those things come together and ideally continue to enable us to de-risk our nearer term growth profile, we certainly have the financial flexibility and the capabilities to be in the mix. That's been our guiding philosophy around business development for some time now, and it continues to be our focus. Cristian, are there particular areas you would highlight?
Speaker #6: And so that's been our guiding philosophy around business development for some time now, and it continues to be our focus. But Christian, are there particular areas you would highlight?
Adam Lenkowsky: Thanks, Evan, for the question. I would frame it in two ways. I'm excited by what is new, what is innovative in terms of new targets, but also the way you deliver your drugs against that target, the modalities. I think this is where I think internally, but also looking external innovation is very continue to be very important. I want to give you some concrete examples. We know better and better the biology of the diseases where we are operating. Think cancer, think neuroscience, cardiovascular. Now it's identifying targets that becoming more and more relevant, and then the way we deliver against that
Cristian Massacesi: Thanks, Evan, for the question. I would frame it in two ways. I'm excited by what is new, what is innovative in terms of new targets, but also the way you deliver your drugs against that target, the modalities. I think this is where I think internally, but also looking external innovation is very continue to be very important. I want to give you some concrete examples. We know better and better the biology of the diseases where we are operating. Think cancer, think neuroscience, cardiovascular. Now it's identifying targets that becoming more and more relevant, and then the way we deliver against that
Speaker #1: Thanks, Evan, for the question. There are I would frame in two ways. I'm excited by what is new, what is innovative, in terms of new targets.
Speaker #1: But also, the way you deliver your drugs against that target, the modalities. I think this is where I think internally, but also looking external, innovation is very, very continue to be very important.
Speaker #1: I want to give you some concrete examples. We know better and better the biology of the diseases where we are operating—I think cancer, I think neuroscience, cardiovascular.
Speaker #1: identifying targets that becoming more and more relevant. And then the way we deliver against them. I want to give an example of an internal project that is our cell mode BCL6 is coming from our protein targeted degradation platform.
Cristian Massacesi: I want to give an example of an internal project that is our CELMoD BCL6 is coming from our protein targeted degradation platform. BCL6 is a key target in lymphomas, driver lymphomas, but because it's a transcription factor, we're unable to inhibit them. Now, with the degrader, we can. This is just an example. Imagine the potential in neuroscience. We are building up our Alzheimer portfolio, and we start to understand more and more on the biology of Alzheimer's. Now the question is, how can we deliver against amyloid, against tau, against new targets, and how we can have better drugs to get into the brain? The shuttles is an example. I give you concrete examples on what I think innovation can look like, especially looking then at the development part that ultimately is our job.
Cristian Massacesi: I want to give an example of an internal project that is our CELMoD BCL6 is coming from our protein targeted degradation platform. BCL6 is a key target in lymphomas, driver lymphomas, but because it's a transcription factor, we're unable to inhibit them. Now, with the degrader, we can. This is just an example. Imagine the potential in neuroscience. We are building up our Alzheimer portfolio, and we start to understand more and more on the biology of Alzheimer's. Now the question is, how can we deliver against amyloid, against tau, against new targets, and how we can have better drugs to get into the brain? The shuttles is an example. I give you concrete examples on what I think innovation can look like, especially looking then at the development part that ultimately is our job.
Speaker #1: BCL6 is a key target in lymphomas. Drive lymphomas. But because it's a prescription factor, we were unable to inhibit them. Now with the degrader, we can.
Speaker #1: This is just an example. Imagine the potential in neuroscience. We are building up our Alzheimer’s portfolio, and, you know, we are starting to understand more and more about the biology of Alzheimer’s.
Speaker #1: Now the question is, how can we deliver against amyloid, against tau, against new targets? And how we can have better drugs to get into the brain?
Speaker #1: The shuttles is an example. So these are the kind of I give you concrete examples on what I think innovation can look like especially looking then at the development part that ultimately is our job.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Christian. Let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, Cristian. Let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, Cristian. Let's take our next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Emily Field with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Emily Field with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Emily Field with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi, thanks so much for taking my question. I have a question on Qvantic in the approved schizophrenia indication. You've talked about one of the drags on sales being that clinicians aren't titrating up quickly enough to the therapeutic dose.
Emily Field: Okay, thanks so much for taking my question. Question on Cobenfy and the approved schizophrenia indication. You talked about one of the drags on sales being that clinicians aren't titrating up quickly enough to the therapeutic dose. Just wondering if you could give us an update on how the educational efforts on optimizing that are going and when perhaps we could see that reflected in the sales trajectory. If I could just sneak in another one on Sotyktu in lupus. Obviously, a lot of readouts coming in the lupus space over the next couple of years. I was just wondering if you could highlight your confidence in the TYK2 MOA in this obviously notoriously difficult space. Thank you.
Emily Field: Okay, thanks so much for taking my question. Question on Cobenfy and the approved schizophrenia indication. You talked about one of the drags on sales being that clinicians aren't titrating up quickly enough to the therapeutic dose. Just wondering if you could give us an update on how the educational efforts on optimizing that are going and when perhaps we could see that reflected in the sales trajectory. If I could just sneak in another one on Sotyktu in lupus. Obviously, a lot of readouts coming in the lupus space over the next couple of years. I was just wondering if you could highlight your confidence in the TYK2 MOA in this obviously notoriously difficult space. Thank you.
Speaker #7: So I was just wondering if you could give us an update on how the educational efforts on optimizing that are going and when perhaps we could see that reflected in the sales trajectory.
Speaker #7: And if I could just sneak in another one on Q2 in lupus, obviously a lot of readouts coming in the lupus space over the next couple of years.
Speaker #7: So I was just wondering if you could highlight your confidence in the Q2 MOA in this obviously notoriously difficult space. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Good morning, Emily. So Adam, maybe you could start and Christian, you can chime in as well.
Chuck Triano: Good morning, Emily. Adam, maybe you could start, and Cristian, you can chime in as well.
Chuck Triano: Good morning, Emily. Adam, maybe you could start, and Cristian, you can chime in as well.
Speaker #2: Sure. Emily, let me just take the first part of your question about Qvantic. Qvantic continues to deliver steady growth. And we see significant upside coming from future label expansions.
Adam Lenkowsky: Sure. Emily, let me just take the first part of your question about Cobenfy. Cobenfy continues to deliver steady growth, and we see significant upside coming from future label expansions. What we're seeing today in schizophrenia is a number of positive leading indicators for the brand that continues to give us confidence. We're encouraged by the positive trends in total script volumes. Back in the quarter, we saw roughly a 15% growth in TRx quarter over quarter. We're driving consistent increases in new prescribers, and physician feedback continues to be positive. That said, we have areas where we need to make further progress. We need to accelerate new patient starts as well as improve repeat prescribing. As we shared before, this is a disease state that prescribing behavior is deeply entrenched, and Cobenfy will continue to grow by building more positive experiences in the market.
Adam Lenkowsky: Sure. Emily, let me just take the first part of your question about Cobenfy. Cobenfy continues to deliver steady growth, and we see significant upside coming from future label expansions. What we're seeing today in schizophrenia is a number of positive leading indicators for the brand that continues to give us confidence. We're encouraged by the positive trends in total script volumes. Back in the quarter, we saw roughly a 15% growth in TRx quarter over quarter. We're driving consistent increases in new prescribers, and physician feedback continues to be positive. That said, we have areas where we need to make further progress. We need to accelerate new patient starts as well as improve repeat prescribing. As we shared before, this is a disease state that prescribing behavior is deeply entrenched, and Cobenfy will continue to grow by building more positive experiences in the market.
Speaker #2: What we're seeing today in schizophrenia is a number of positive leading indicators for the brand. That continues to give us confidence. We're encouraged by the positive trends in total script volumes.
Speaker #2: In fact, in the quarter, we saw roughly a 15% growth in TRXs quarter over quarter. We're driving consistent increases in new prescribers, and physician feedback continues to be positive.
Speaker #2: That said, we have areas where we need to make further progress. We need to accelerate new patient starts, as well as improve repeat prescribing, as we shared before.
Speaker #2: This is a disease state where prescribing behavior is deeply entrenched, and Qvantic will continue to grow by building more positive experiences in the market.
Speaker #2: As far as dosing, we have been educating physicians on the importance of rapidly titrating Qvantic to the effective dose of 125 milligrams as we see far too many patients that remain on either the 50 or 100 milligram dose.
Adam Lenkowsky: As far as dosing, we have been educating physicians on the importance of rapidly titrating Cobenfy to the effective dose of 125 mg, as we see far too many patients that remain on either the 50 mg or 100 mg dose. What we have seen, though, is an increase in 125 mg prescribing since introducing our phase IV switch study, which will both help maximize efficacy, we need to see further increases in the dose shift towards the 125 mg. Taken together, we have a meaningful opportunity to continue to build confidence and bring clarity on how to maximize Cobenfy use. Overall, we do expect Cobenfy to grow consistently throughout the year with significant upside through a very broad LCM program. As far as Sotyktu in lupus, this is a market that is very different than the PSO market.
Adam Lenkowsky: As far as dosing, we have been educating physicians on the importance of rapidly titrating Cobenfy to the effective dose of 125 mg, as we see far too many patients that remain on either the 50 mg or 100 mg dose. What we have seen, though, is an increase in 125 mg prescribing since introducing our phase IV switch study, which will both help maximize efficacy, we need to see further increases in the dose shift towards the 125 mg. Taken together, we have a meaningful opportunity to continue to build confidence and bring clarity on how to maximize Cobenfy use. Overall, we do expect Cobenfy to grow consistently throughout the year with significant upside through a very broad LCM program. As far as Sotyktu in lupus, this is a market that is very different than the PSO market.
Speaker #2: But we have seen, though, is an increase in 125 milligram prescribing since introducing our phase four switch study. Which will both help maximize efficacy but we need to see further increases in the dose shift towards the 125 milligrams.
Speaker #2: But taken together, we have a meaningful opportunity to continue to build confidence and bring clarity on how to maximize Qvantic use and overall, we do expect Qvantic to grow consistently throughout the year with significant upside through a very broad LCM program.
Speaker #2: As far as Q2 in lupus, this is a market that is very different than the PSO market. So, Q2 remains a strategically important asset, which we believe could see renewed momentum with our new indications.
Adam Lenkowsky: Sotyktu remains really a strategically important asset, which we believe could see renewed momentum with our new indications. SLE, which will be out this year, and Sjögren's will be out next year. In particular, a real need exists for more effective treatments. Those include treatments that reduce steroid dependence. That includes treatments that are associated with fewer side effects. What we saw in our phase II study gives us a lot of confidence. That study was one of the largest and most compelling in SLE to date, having met both the primary and key secondary efficacy endpoints. We believe we have a real opportunity to differentiate Sotyktu based on overall clinical responses, efficacy in skin and joint involvement, the ability to reduce steroid dependence, and also associated toxicity.
Adam Lenkowsky: Sotyktu remains really a strategically important asset, which we believe could see renewed momentum with our new indications. SLE, which will be out this year, and Sjögren's will be out next year. In particular, a real need exists for more effective treatments. Those include treatments that reduce steroid dependence. That includes treatments that are associated with fewer side effects. What we saw in our phase II study gives us a lot of confidence. That study was one of the largest and most compelling in SLE to date, having met both the primary and key secondary efficacy endpoints. We believe we have a real opportunity to differentiate Sotyktu based on overall clinical responses, efficacy in skin and joint involvement, the ability to reduce steroid dependence, and also associated toxicity.
Speaker #2: SLE, which we'll read out this year, and Sjögren's we'll read out next year. In particular, a real need exists for more effective treatments. Those include treatments that reduce steroid dependence.
Speaker #2: That includes treatments that are associated with fewer side effects. And what we saw in our Phase 2 study gives us a lot of confidence.
Speaker #2: That study was one of the largest and most compelling in SLE to date, having met both the primary and key secondary efficacy endpoints. So we believe we have a real opportunity to differentiate so Q2 based on overall clinical responses, efficacy in skin and joint involvement, the ability to reduce steroid dependence, and also associated toxicity.
Speaker #2: So we very much look forward to our SLE data readout this year as this could really catalyze growth to the brand.
Adam Lenkowsky: We very much look forward to our SLE data readout this year, as this could really catalyze growth of the brand.
Adam Lenkowsky: We very much look forward to our SLE data readout this year, as this could really catalyze growth of the brand.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Adam. And thanks, Emily, for asking about these important readouts that will happen this year both studies. As Adam said, the confidence stays on the phase two.
Cristian Massacesi: Thanks. Thanks, Adam. Thanks, Emily, for asking about these important readouts that will happen this year, both studies. As Adam said, the confidence stays on the phase II. Adam explained very well why the phase II were positive and positive for primary, most secondary points. It's not very typical in this space. Now, where I'm pleased is on the fact that we have been able to mimic the phase II study into the phase III studies. This is very important because when I look at patient demographics, disease characteristics, trial management, endpoints, everything is very matching. That in immunology, you have some kind of risks, sometimes related to placebo response. I think that our teams and investigators did a very good job in managing that risk in terms of checking carefully, steroid tapering, and actively monitoring the primary endpoint.
Cristian Massacesi: Thanks. Thanks, Adam. Thanks, Emily, for asking about these important readouts that will happen this year, both studies. As Adam said, the confidence stays on the phase II. Adam explained very well why the phase II were positive and positive for primary, most secondary points. It's not very typical in this space. Now, where I'm pleased is on the fact that we have been able to mimic the phase II study into the phase III studies. This is very important because when I look at patient demographics, disease characteristics, trial management, endpoints, everything is very matching. That in immunology, you have some kind of risks, sometimes related to placebo response. I think that our teams and investigators did a very good job in managing that risk in terms of checking carefully, steroid tapering, and actively monitoring the primary endpoint.
Speaker #5: Adam explained very well why the phase two were positive and positive for primary modes, secondary endpoints. It's not very typical in this space. Now what I'm pleased is on the fact that we have been able to mimic the phase two study into the phase three studies.
Speaker #5: This is a very important because when I look at patient demographics, disease characteristics, trial management, endpoints, everything is very matching. And there are in immunology, you have some kind of risks.
Speaker #5: Sometimes related to placebo response. I think that our teams and investigators did a very good job in managing that risk in terms of checking carefully steroid tapering and actively monitoring the primary endpoints.
Speaker #5: So really looking forward on the readouts this year. And I think, as Adam said, that this can be a very important oral drug to bring these patients.
Cristian Massacesi: Really looking forward on the readouts this year, and I think, as Adam said, this can be a very important oral drug to bring to these patients.
Cristian Massacesi: Really looking forward on the readouts this year, and I think, as Adam said, this can be a very important oral drug to bring to these patients.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks both. Let's move to the next question operator. Thank you.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thanks, both. Let's move to the next question, operator. Thank you.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thanks, both. Let's move to the next question, operator. Thank you.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Asad Haider with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Asad Haider with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Asad Haider with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on the quarter. Maybe for Christian, on Adamel Parent, this now seems to be becoming the key clinical event for the balance of the year given the updates that you guys just described.
Asad Haider: Great. Thanks for taking the questions, and congratulations on the quarter. Maybe for Christian on admilparant. This now seems to be becoming the key clinical event for the balance of the year, given the updates that you guys just described. Just perhaps just level set us on expectations as we sharpen our pencils ahead of this readout. Can you contextualize where this fits into the IPF landscape if the clinical benefit turns out to be in line with currently available drugs, which have improved FVC by roughly 40% to 50%? What would be the use case for adding it in? On the PPF side, is that trial still tracking to read out closely after IPF? Anything you can tell us on the filing strategy. Thank you.
Asad Haider: Great. Thanks for taking the questions, and congratulations on the quarter. Maybe for Christian on admilparant. This now seems to be becoming the key clinical event for the balance of the year, given the updates that you guys just described. Just perhaps just level set us on expectations as we sharpen our pencils ahead of this readout. Can you contextualize where this fits into the IPF landscape if the clinical benefit turns out to be in line with currently available drugs, which have improved FVC by roughly 40% to 50%? What would be the use case for adding it in? On the PPF side, is that trial still tracking to read out closely after IPF? Anything you can tell us on the filing strategy. Thank you.
Speaker #6: So just perhaps just level set us on expectations as we sharpen our pencils ahead of this readout. Can you contextualize where this fits into the IPF landscape at the clinical benefit turns out to be in line with currently available drugs which have improved FVC by roughly 40% to to 50%?
Speaker #6: What would be the use case for adding it in? And then on the PPF side, is that trial still tracking to readout closely after IPF?
Speaker #6: And then anything you can tell us on the filing strategy. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Asad. I'll start with Christian and then maybe Adam, you can chime in as well.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Asad. I'll start with Cristian, then maybe Adam, you can chime in as well.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Asad. I'll start with Cristian, then maybe Adam, you can chime in as well.
Speaker #5: Thanks. Thanks, Asad, for the question. You're right. This is becoming a very important readout. And guided by the end of this year. Let me start with the mechanism of action.
Cristian Massacesi: Thanks. Thanks, Asad, for the question. You're right, this is becoming a very important readout, guided by the end of this year. Let me start with the mechanism of action. LPA1 is a very important novel target because it's not working only on the fibrotic and inflammatory pathway, but also potentially on the epithelium repair pathway. This is novel. We believe that admilparant can be first and best in class against the LPA1. The conviction on the phase III, again, sits on the phase II results, both in IPF and PPF. You know the results were very positive for FVC primary endpoint. What we did, and we were able to do also in this setting, was ensure consistency how we run the phase II into the phase III, again, in terms of endpoints, population, overall criteria. There is an important aspect I want to highlight.
Cristian Massacesi: Thanks. Thanks, Asad, for the question. You're right, this is becoming a very important readout, guided by the end of this year. Let me start with the mechanism of action. LPA1 is a very important novel target because it's not working only on the fibrotic and inflammatory pathway, but also potentially on the epithelium repair pathway. This is novel. We believe that admilparant can be first and best in class against the LPA1. The conviction on the phase III, again, sits on the phase II results, both in IPF and PPF. You know the results were very positive for FVC primary endpoint. What we did, and we were able to do also in this setting, was ensure consistency how we run the phase II into the phase III, again, in terms of endpoints, population, overall criteria. There is an important aspect I want to highlight.
Speaker #5: FPA1 is a very important novel target because it's not working only on the fibrotic and inflammatory pathway, but also potentially on the epithelium repair pathway.
Speaker #5: And this is novel. We believe that Amiparant can be first and best in class against FPA1. And the conviction on the phase three again sits on the phase two results, both in IPF and PPF.
Speaker #5: You know, the results were very positive for the FVC primary endpoint. What we did, and we were able to do also in this setting, was ensure consistency in how we ran the phase two into the phase three.
Speaker #5: Again, in terms of endpoints, population, overall criteria. It is an important aspect I want to highlight. In phase three, we have two shots on goal in each of the studies.
Cristian Massacesi: In phase III, we have two shots on goal in each of the studies, IPF and PPF, because we are testing two doses. 60 mg is the dose that emerged from the phase II, but also 120 mg that was introduced later. We know there is a dose relation activity. This give us more chances with both doses. Also looking overall at the study conduction and how the blinded data emerging on the safety side, very well. Overall, I have to say, I'm really looking forward to these readouts because the profile of this drug can be very helpful for patient with both IPF and PPF. To IPF, guided this year. PPF, to the second part of your question, will be just a few months after, so very same ballpark timelines beginning next year. Adam, you want to speak about the positioning?
Cristian Massacesi: In phase III, we have two shots on goal in each of the studies, IPF and PPF, because we are testing two doses. 60 mg is the dose that emerged from the phase II, but also 120 mg that was introduced later. We know there is a dose relation activity. This give us more chances with both doses. Also looking overall at the study conduction and how the blinded data emerging on the safety side, very well. Overall, I have to say, I'm really looking forward to these readouts because the profile of this drug can be very helpful for patient with both IPF and PPF. To IPF, guided this year. PPF, to the second part of your question, will be just a few months after, so very same ballpark timelines beginning next year. Adam, you want to speak about the positioning?
Speaker #5: IPF and PPF. Because we are testing two doses, 60 milligram, that is the dose that emerges from the phase two, but also 120 milligram that was introduced later.
Speaker #5: We know there is a dose relation activity. And this gives us more chances with both doses. Also looking overall at the study conduction and how the blinded data are emerging on the safety side.
Speaker #5: Very well. Overall, I have to say I'm really looking forward to these readouts because they profile of this drug can be very helpful for patients with both IPF and PPF.
Speaker #5: So, IPF is guided for this year. PPF, to the second part of your question, will be just a few months after. So, very, very similar ballpark timelines.
Speaker #5: Beginning next year. Adam, you want to speak about the positioning.
Speaker #2: Yes. No, thanks for the question, Asad. So Amiparant has the potential to play a truly meaningful role in both IPF and PPF as we expect an improved efficacy and tolerability profile.
Adam Lenkowsky: Yes. No, thanks for the question, Asad. Admilparant has the potential to play a truly meaningful role in both IPF and PPF, as we expect an improved efficacy and tolerability profile. There is still a significant unmet need for new and improved therapies that slow disease progression, potentially even halting disease progression, that are well-tolerated and ultimately help patients better manage their disease. Now remember, GI tolerability remains a significant challenge with current agents in the market. In fact, 50% to 60% of IPF patients continue to stop their medications by 12 months, and that's with current standard of care. What you see in the most recent launch, it clearly validates the market opportunity, that there is an opportunity to gain significant share as better tolerated and more effective new treatment options emerge.
Adam Lenkowsky: Yes. No, thanks for the question, Asad. Admilparant has the potential to play a truly meaningful role in both IPF and PPF, as we expect an improved efficacy and tolerability profile. There is still a significant unmet need for new and improved therapies that slow disease progression, potentially even halting disease progression, that are well-tolerated and ultimately help patients better manage their disease. Now remember, GI tolerability remains a significant challenge with current agents in the market. In fact, 50% to 60% of IPF patients continue to stop their medications by 12 months, and that's with current standard of care. What you see in the most recent launch, it clearly validates the market opportunity, that there is an opportunity to gain significant share as better tolerated and more effective new treatment options emerge.
Speaker #2: There's still a significant unmet need for new and improved therapies. That slowed disease progression, potentially even halting disease progression. That are well tolerated and ultimately help patients better manage their disease.
Speaker #2: Now remember, GI tolerability remains a significant challenge with current agents in the market. And in fact, 50% to 60% of IPF patients continue to stop their medications by 12 months.
Speaker #2: And that's with current standard of care. And what you've seen in the most recent launch, it clearly validates the market opportunity. That there is an opportunity to gain significant share as better tolerated and more effective new treatment options emerge.
Speaker #2: And so what we're seeing happen in the market today is the emergence of a large second line add-on and switch market for the first time we're seeing that with JASKIT is over 50% of their starts are coming after generics.
Adam Lenkowsky: What we're seeing happen in the market today is the emergence of a large second-line add-on and switch market for the first time. We're seeing that with Jascatis, over 50% of their starts are coming after generics. Today, this is a roughly $4 billion market. We expect this market to grow significantly with improved treatment. That could maybe double to $8 to 10 billion by the middle of the 2030s with improved treatment options. We believe that admilparant truly has the potential to be foundational as a first-branded option with the versatility of being used in combination. We very much look forward to the readout in the H2 of this year.
Adam Lenkowsky: What we're seeing happen in the market today is the emergence of a large second-line add-on and switch market for the first time. We're seeing that with Jascatis, over 50% of their starts are coming after generics. Today, this is a roughly $4 billion market. We expect this market to grow significantly with improved treatment. That could maybe double to $8 to 10 billion by the middle of the 2030s with improved treatment options. We believe that admilparant truly has the potential to be foundational as a first-branded option with the versatility of being used in combination. We very much look forward to the readout in the H2 of this year.
Speaker #2: So today, this is a roughly $4 billion market. We expect this market to grow significantly with improved treatment that could maybe double to 8 to 10 billion dollars by the middle of the 2030s with improved treatment options.
Speaker #2: And we believe that Amiparant truly has the potential to be foundational as a first branded option with the versatility of being used in combination.
Speaker #2: So we very much look forward to the readout. In the back half of this year.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks both. Next question please.
Chris Boerner: All right. Thanks, both. Next question, please.
Chuck Triano: All right. Thanks, both. Next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Oh, thanks so much for the question. So, I wanted to drill in a little bit on this, Selma. We've got two assets that are either filed or fileable with the agency.
Seamus Fernandez: Thanks so much for the question. So wanted to drill in a little bit on the CELMoD. We've got two assets that are either filed or fileable with the agency. Just wanted to get a better sense of how in, let's say, 2028 to 2030, how you see the CELMoD actually contributing to the growth revenue for the company. This does seem like a multibillion-dollar, perhaps even a double-digit billion-dollar potential opportunity if the earlier-stage studies read out positively. Even in the existing indications that you see today, what kind of contribution do you see coming from your CELMoD portfolio? Thanks.
Seamus Fernandez: Thanks so much for the question. So wanted to drill in a little bit on the CELMoD. We've got two assets that are either filed or fileable with the agency. Just wanted to get a better sense of how in, let's say, 2028 to 2030, how you see the CELMoD actually contributing to the growth revenue for the company. This does seem like a multibillion-dollar, perhaps even a double-digit billion-dollar potential opportunity if the earlier-stage studies read out positively. Even in the existing indications that you see today, what kind of contribution do you see coming from your CELMoD portfolio? Thanks.
Speaker #6: Just wanted to get a better sense of how in, let's say, 2028 to 2030, how you see the Selma's actually contributing to the growth revenue for the company.
Speaker #6: This does seem like a multi-billion dollar perhaps even a double digit billion dollar potential opportunity if the earlier stage studies readout positively but even in the existing indications that you see today, what kind of contribution do you see coming from your Selma portfolio?
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Seamus. Great question. And obviously we're quite excited about the platform and both Iber and Messi. But Adam, you can chime in.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Seamus. Great question. Obviously, we're quite excited about the platform and both iber and mezi. Adam, you can chime in.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Seamus. Great question. Obviously, we're quite excited about the platform and both iber and mezi. Adam, you can chime in.
Speaker #2: Yeah. No, thank you, Seamus, for the question. So clearly Selma's represent a significant commercial opportunity. And we're confident that both Ibertimide and Mesigtimide will deliver very strong growth for the company.
Adam Lenkowsky: Thank you, Seamus, for the question. Clearly, CELMoD represent a significant commercial opportunity. We're confident that both iberdomide and mezigdomide will deliver very strong growth for the company. We're very much looking forward to iberdomide's PDUFA date, which is just a few weeks away. Our commercial teams are launch ready. We're also pleased to have a PDUFA date set for mezigdomide, as you had heard earlier on the call. It will come in May 2025. Let me just step back. Recall that 70% to 80% of patients are treated with multiple myeloma in the community.
Adam Lenkowsky: Thank you, Seamus, for the question. Clearly, CELMoD represent a significant commercial opportunity. We're confident that both iberdomide and mezigdomide will deliver very strong growth for the company. We're very much looking forward to iberdomide's PDUFA date, which is just a few weeks away. Our commercial teams are launch ready. We're also pleased to have a PDUFA date set for mezigdomide, as you had heard earlier on the call. It will come in May 2025. Let me just step back. Recall that 70% to 80% of patients are treated with multiple myeloma in the community.
Speaker #2: And we're very much looking forward to Ibertimide's PDUPA date. Which is just a few weeks away. And our commercial teams are launch ready. We're also pleased to have a PDUPA date set for Mesigtimide as you had heard earlier on the call, which will come in May of next year.
Speaker #2: Let me just step back. We'll call it 70 to 80% of patients are treated with multiple myeloma in the community. And both Iber and Mesi are able to provide a balance of high potency, able to provide a manageable and very familiar toxicity profile.
Adam Lenkowsky: Both Iberdomide and mezigdomide are able to provide a balance of high potency. They're able to provide a manageable and very familiar toxicity profile that are able to provide a better experience for patients with the convenience of an oral treatment that fits within the workflow of their practice. Iberdomide will replace Pomalyst and REVLIMID in the leading triplet regimens in second-line, and combined with daratumumab, and will amplify the efficacy of current IMiD-based regimens. Our goal is to make Iberdomide and mezigdomide foundational in multiple myeloma, replacing REV and Pomalyst in second-line over time. We do expect strong adoption in the community. PFS data should be available within just a few months after our approval, which will certainly help accelerate uptake, as some physicians are going to want to see PFS data before adopting. We are ready to launch.
Adam Lenkowsky: Both Iberdomide and mezigdomide are able to provide a balance of high potency. They're able to provide a manageable and very familiar toxicity profile that are able to provide a better experience for patients with the convenience of an oral treatment that fits within the workflow of their practice. Iberdomide will replace Pomalyst and REVLIMID in the leading triplet regimens in second-line, and combined with daratumumab, and will amplify the efficacy of current IMiD-based regimens. Our goal is to make Iberdomide and mezigdomide foundational in multiple myeloma, replacing REV and Pomalyst in second-line over time. We do expect strong adoption in the community. PFS data should be available within just a few months after our approval, which will certainly help accelerate uptake, as some physicians are going to want to see PFS data before adopting. We are ready to launch.
Speaker #2: That are able to provide better experience for patients with the convenience of an oral treatment that fits within the workflow of their practice. So Iber will replace Pomalyst and Revlimid in the leading triplet regimens in second line.
Speaker #2: And combined with Daratumab and will amplify the efficacy of current IMID-based regimens. Our goal is to make Iber and Mesi foundational in multiple myeloma replacing Rev and Pom in second line over time.
Speaker #2: We do expect strong adoption in the community. And PFS data should be available within just a few months after our approval, which will certainly help accelerate uptake as some physicians are going to want to see PFS data before adopting.
Speaker #2: But we are ready to launch. We know the work we need to do to establish both Iber and Mesi in the market. We're also excited about the upcoming readouts for Golcatamide, which will be the third Selma in the market that has the opportunity to really revolutionize first line LBCL and also play a significant role in second line follicular lymphoma.
Adam Lenkowsky: We know the work we need to do to establish both Iberdomide and mezigdomide in the market. We're also excited about the upcoming readouts for golcadomide, which will be the third CELMoD in the market that has the opportunity to really revolutionize first-line LBCL and also play a significant role in second-line follicular lymphoma. We're excited to bring these important medicines to patients. We know these three drugs will provide meaningful contributions to growth for the company.
Adam Lenkowsky: We know the work we need to do to establish both Iberdomide and mezigdomide in the market. We're also excited about the upcoming readouts for golcadomide, which will be the third CELMoD in the market that has the opportunity to really revolutionize first-line LBCL and also play a significant role in second-line follicular lymphoma. We're excited to bring these important medicines to patients. We know these three drugs will provide meaningful contributions to growth for the company.
Speaker #2: So we're excited to bring these important medicines to patients. And we know these three drugs will provide meaningful contributions to growth to the company.
Speaker #3: Adam, thank you. Let's move to the next question, please.
Chris Boerner: Thank you. Let's move to the next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thank you. Let's move to the next question, please.
Speaker #4: What's the next question? Comes from Michael Yee with UBS. Please go
Operator: The next question comes from Michael Yee with UBS. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Michael Yee with UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thanks. Two questions, both for Christian. On IPF, can you just talk a little bit about the 120 dose that you're using and how you feel about how much more efficacy that could add and what exposure analysis data you might have seen there in the context of also blood pressure questions and how you feel about the risk benefit of the 120.
Michael Yee: Thanks. Two questions, both for Cristian. On IPF, can you just talk a little bit about the 120 dose that you're using and how you feel about how much more efficacy that could add and what exposure analysis data you might have seen there in the context of also blood pressure questions and how you feel about the risk-benefit of the 120? And then just perhaps a clarification on Milvexian. I know that everyone's asking about hazard ratios, but just so that you could confirm, I would assume that as a non-inferiority study, you expect the hazard ratios, certainly on the upper bound, to be well above 1.0, but as long as it's not inferior, that that is a win for you. Just wanted to clarify and confirm. Thank you.
Michael Yee: Thanks. Two questions, both for Cristian. On IPF, can you just talk a little bit about the 120 dose that you're using and how you feel about how much more efficacy that could add and what exposure analysis data you might have seen there in the context of also blood pressure questions and how you feel about the risk-benefit of the 120? And then just perhaps a clarification on Milvexian. I know that everyone's asking about hazard ratios, but just so that you could confirm, I would assume that as a non-inferiority study, you expect the hazard ratios, certainly on the upper bound, to be well above 1.0, but as long as it's not inferior, that that is a win for you. Just wanted to clarify and confirm. Thank you.
Speaker #5: And then just perhaps a clarification on Melvexian. I know that everyone's asking about hazard ratios, but just so that you could confirm, I would assume that as a non-inferiority study, you expect the hazard ratios certainly on the upper bound to be well above 1.0.
Speaker #5: But as long as it's non-inferior, that that is a win for you. Just wanted to clarify and confirm. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Mike. And Christian, you can start and then Adam, you can just chime in with any additional detail on Melvexian.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Mike. Cristian, you can start, and then Adam, you can just chime in with any additional detail on Milvexian.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Mike. Cristian, you can start, and then Adam, you can just chime in with any additional detail on Milvexian.
Speaker #6: Thank you, Mike, for the question. On IPF, as I said, we introduced 120 milligram dose based on some work coming modeling work showing that there was a dose relation.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you, Mike, for the question on IPF. As I said, we introduced the 120 milligram dose based on some work coming, modeling work, showing that there was a dose relation. You remember in the phase II, we tested 30 milligram, 50 milligram, and 60 milligram was the dose showing better and higher benefit, and this is what we brought in phase III. At the start of the phase III, there was a randomized run-in introducing 120, DMC has seen this data and cleared that dose. We believe that there is a dose relation. As you mentioned, the real unknown for the conduction of the study was 120 safety profile in terms of hypotensions. What I can tell you is that DMC is monitoring regularly the study. We completed the recruitment. We are waiting the readout.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you, Mike, for the question on IPF. As I said, we introduced the 120 mg dose based on some work coming, modeling work, showing that there was a dose relation. You remember in the phase II, we tested 30 mg, 50 mg, and 60 mg was the dose showing better and higher benefit, and this is what we brought in phase III. At the start of the phase III, there was a randomized run-in introducing 120, DMC has seen this data and cleared that dose. We believe that there is a dose relation. As you mentioned, the real unknown for the conduction of the study was 120 safety profile in terms of hypotensions. What I can tell you is that DMC is monitoring regularly the study. We completed the recruitment. We are waiting the readout.
Speaker #6: You remember in the phase two, we tested 30 milligram and 60 milligram and 60 milligram was the dose showing better and higher benefit. And this is what we brought in phase three.
Speaker #6: Then at the start of the phase three, there was a randomized run-in introducing 120, DMCFs in this data and clear that dose. We believe that there is a dose relation.
Speaker #6: The real as you mentioned, the real unknown for the conduction of the study was 120 safety profile in terms of hypotensions. What I can tell you is that DMC is monitored regularly the study.
Speaker #6: We completed the recruitment. We are waiting the readout. And there was in a blinded way a very reassuring events safety profile rate. So this increase the confidence that we have to show some goal.
Cristian Massacesi: There was, in a blinded way, a very reassuring event safety profile rate. This increases the confidence that we have a two-shot on goal, and the studies are fully powered for both doses. On related to Milvexian, again, we remain blinded, and you're right, the margins on non-inferiority are a range that is around one, the study is fully designed and powered to show an observation of one. This is what we expect, Milvexian being as good as ELIQUIS in terms of stroke and systemic embolisms, of course, being better on bleedings.
Cristian Massacesi: There was, in a blinded way, a very reassuring event safety profile rate. This increases the confidence that we have a two-shot on goal, and the studies are fully powered for both doses. On related to Milvexian, again, we remain blinded, and you're right, the margins on non-inferiority are a range that is around one, the study is fully designed and powered to show an observation of one. This is what we expect, Milvexian being as good as ELIQUIS in terms of stroke and systemic embolisms, of course, being better on bleedings.
Speaker #6: And the studies are fully power for both doses. On related to Melvexian, again, we remain blinded and you're right. The margins are non-inferiority are a range that is around one.
Speaker #6: But the study is fully designed and power to show another ratio of one. This is what we expect. Melvexian being as good as Eliquis in terms of stroke and systemic embolisms.
Speaker #6: And then of course being better on bleedings.
Speaker #2: Yeah, just as far as what we're hearing from our physicians, I think number one, physicians and payers as we meet with them, they're not anchored on a specific percentage threshold.
Adam Lenkowsky: Yeah, just as far as what we're hearing from our physicians. I think number one, physicians, payers, as we meet with them, they're not anchored on a specific percentage threshold. What they're looking for, though, is clinically meaningful reduction in major bleeding that translates into fewer events, fewer hospitalizations, and ultimately a lower cost in treating AFib patients. That's why ELIQUIS continues to play such a prominent role in the marketplace. Our customers focus on whether treatment enables them to have broader and more confident use of anticoagulation, preserving stroke protection while improving the safety margin has a potential to really meaningfully reshape the treatment dynamics that we see today. We believe that the profile that we have described and we fully expect will drive significant demand and will be important for payers, patients, and providers.
Adam Lenkowsky: Yeah, just as far as what we're hearing from our physicians. I think number one, physicians, payers, as we meet with them, they're not anchored on a specific percentage threshold. What they're looking for, though, is clinically meaningful reduction in major bleeding that translates into fewer events, fewer hospitalizations, and ultimately a lower cost in treating AFib patients. That's why ELIQUIS continues to play such a prominent role in the marketplace. Our customers focus on whether treatment enables them to have broader and more confident use of anticoagulation, preserving stroke protection while improving the safety margin has a potential to really meaningfully reshape the treatment dynamics that we see today. We believe that the profile that we have described and we fully expect will drive significant demand and will be important for payers, patients, and providers.
Speaker #2: What they're looking for though is clinically meaningful reduction in major bleeding. That translates into fewer events. Fewer hospitalizations. And ultimately a lower cost in treating AFib patients.
Speaker #2: That's why Eliquis continues to play such a prominent role in the marketplace. Our customers focus on whether treatment enables them to have broader and more confident use of anticoagulation.
Speaker #2: Preserving stroke protection while improving the safety margin. Has a potential to really meaningfully reshape the treatment dynamics. That we see today. And we believe that the profile that we have described and we fully expect will drive significant demand.
Speaker #2: And it'll be important for payers, patients, and providers.
Speaker #3: Perfect. Thank you. Oprah, let's take our next question please.
Chris Boerner: Okay. Thank you. Operator, let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Okay. Thank you. Operator, let's take our next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Another one on IPF. And maybe for Adam, just given the really strong launch of Juskade by BI, is this impact the bar for success in your view?
Jason Gerberry: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another one on IPF and maybe for Adam. Just given the really strong launch of Justgado by BI, does this impact the bar for success in your view? Does it elevate maybe the commercial bar for success? Is potentially winning and differentiating versus Justgado mainly on tolerability? Do you see the market potentially moving to polypharmacy, much like markets like pulmonary hypertension? Just wanted to get your perspective on some of those market considerations. Thanks.
Jason Gerberry: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another one on IPF and maybe for Adam. Just given the really strong launch of Justgado by BI, does this impact the bar for success in your view? Does it elevate maybe the commercial bar for success? Is potentially winning and differentiating versus Justgado mainly on tolerability? Do you see the market potentially moving to polypharmacy, much like markets like pulmonary hypertension? Just wanted to get your perspective on some of those market considerations. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Does it elevate the maybe the commercial bar for success or is potentially winning and differentiating versus Juskade mainly on tolerability? And do you see the market potentially moving to polypharmacy much like markets like pulmonary hypertension?
Speaker #5: So just wanted to get your perspective. Some of those market considerations. Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Jason, thanks for the question. As we said, Christian and I both shared, IPF and PPF remains a market with significant unmet needs. And those needs are in both efficacy and tolerability improvement.
Adam Lenkowsky: Yeah.
Cristian Massacesi: Jason, thanks for the question.
Adam Lenkowsky: Jason, thanks for the question.
Adam Lenkowsky: As we said, Chris and I both shared, IPF and PPF remains a market with significant unmet needs, those needs are in both efficacy and tolerability improvement. admilparant, as the first ever LPA1 antagonist, has the potential to play a real significant role, we expect both improved efficacy and improved tolerability, specifically as it relates to GI toxicity, which even what we see today with some of the most recently approved products, has an overall rate of diarrhea of 40%, over 60% in combination. What we've seen with admilparant in our phase II studies is a side effect profile that is comparable to placebo. I think what you're getting at is right. JASCAYD's launch validates the market opportunity and shows there's an opportunity to gain significant share as better tolerated and effective new treatment options emerge. That's what we're seeing.
Adam Lenkowsky: As we said, Chris and I both shared, IPF and PPF remains a market with significant unmet needs, those needs are in both efficacy and tolerability improvement. admilparant, as the first ever LPA1 antagonist, has the potential to play a real significant role, we expect both improved efficacy and improved tolerability, specifically as it relates to GI toxicity, which even what we see today with some of the most recently approved products, has an overall rate of diarrhea of 40%, over 60% in combination. What we've seen with admilparant in our phase II studies is a side effect profile that is comparable to placebo. I think what you're getting at is right. JASCAYD's launch validates the market opportunity and shows there's an opportunity to gain significant share as better tolerated and effective new treatment options emerge. That's what we're seeing.
Speaker #2: Admilperon, as the first ever LPA1 antagonist, has the potential to play a real significant role. And we expect both improved efficacy and improved tolerability.
Speaker #2: Specifically as it relates to GI toxicity, which even what we see today with some of the most recently approved products has an overall rate of diarrhea of 40% over 60% in combination.
Speaker #2: And what we've seen with Admilperon in our phase two studies is a side effect profile that is comparable to placebo. And I think what you're getting at is right.
Speaker #2: Juskade's launch validates the market opportunity and shows there's an opportunity to gain significant share as better tolerated and effective new treatment options emerge. And that's what we're seeing.
Speaker #2: We're seeing the creation of a second line add-on market for the first time ever as over 50% of new Juskade starts are coming after generic OFEV or generic Esprit as switch or add-on treatments.
Adam Lenkowsky: We're seeing the creation of a second-line add-on market for the first time ever, as over 50% of new JASCAYD starts are coming after generic Ofev or generic Esbriet as switch or add-on treatments. We'll see this part of the market grow substantially after generic use. Clearly, we'll see a big market in polypharmacy or in switch and add-on. As I talked about, this is a market that we think could double in size over time with improved treatment options. admilparant certainly has the potential to be foundational, both as a first-branded option in monotherapy, with the versatility of being used in combination, given what we expect to be a really exciting efficacy profile and tolerability profile.
Adam Lenkowsky: We're seeing the creation of a second-line add-on market for the first time ever, as over 50% of new JASCAYD starts are coming after generic Ofev or generic Esbriet as switch or add-on treatments. We'll see this part of the market grow substantially after generic use. Clearly, we'll see a big market in polypharmacy or in switch and add-on. As I talked about, this is a market that we think could double in size over time with improved treatment options. admilparant certainly has the potential to be foundational, both as a first-branded option in monotherapy, with the versatility of being used in combination, given what we expect to be a really exciting efficacy profile and tolerability profile.
Speaker #2: And we'll see this part of the market grow substantially after generic use. So clearly we'll see a big market in polypharmacy or in switching add-on.
Speaker #2: As I talked about, this is a market that we think could double in size over time with improved treatment options. And Admilperon certainly has the potential to be foundational, both as a first branded option in monotherapy and with the versatility of being used in combination, given what we expect to be a really exciting efficacy profile and tolerability profile.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Adam. Great. Let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, Alan. Great. Let's take our next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, Adam. Great. Let's take our next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from David Anselm with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from David Amsellem with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from David Amsellem with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thanks. So I had a question about your TAO program with the data coming next year. Just with the recent data from Biogens, Dear Nursing, their TAO ASO.
David Amsellem: Thanks. I had a question about your tau program with the data coming next year. Just with the recent data from Biogen's diranersen, their tau ASO, and just given the body of data for the A-beta therapies, wanted to get a better sense from you on what you'd like to see from CBR, some of the boxes, and just the totality of the data that you get next year for meponitug in order to justify moving forward. Then also what you're seeing with that molecule that potentially differentiates it from diranersen. Thanks.
David Amsellem: Thanks. I had a question about your tau program with the data coming next year. Just with the recent data from Biogen's diranersen, their tau ASO, and just given the body of data for the A-beta therapies, wanted to get a better sense from you on what you'd like to see from CBR, some of the boxes, and just the totality of the data that you get next year for meponitug in order to justify moving forward. Then also what you're seeing with that molecule that potentially differentiates it from diranersen. Thanks.
Speaker #5: And just given the body of data for the A beta therapies, wanted to get a better sense from you on what you'd like to see from CDR some of the boxes and just the totality of the data that you get next year for Maponatug in order to justify moving forward.
Speaker #5: And then also what you're seeing with that molecule that potentially differentiates it from Dear Nursing? Thanks.
Speaker #3: Christian.
Chuck Triano: Christian?
Chuck Triano: Christian?
Speaker #6: Thank you for the question, David. The our anti-TAO antibody Maponitag is a very potential best in class and potent antimicrotubal binding region TAO. I want to I'm specific on this because there are many antibodies out there.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you for the question, David. Our anti-tau antibody, meponitug, is a very potential best-in-class, important anti-microtubule-binding region tau. I'm specific on this because there are many antibodies out there, but I think binding R1 and R3 domains in the MTBR, in the microtubule region, is believed to be very important because it is a critical area that lead to formation and spread of the tau tangles. The job of the drug is blocking this spread from one neuro to another. We did the phase I, and the phase I was very reassuring in terms of safety and tolerability of the product, and now we completed the recruitment of the phase II. The readout of the phase II is going to be next year.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you for the question, David. Our anti-tau antibody, meponitug, is a very potential best-in-class, important anti-microtubule-binding region tau. I'm specific on this because there are many antibodies out there, but I think binding R1 and R3 domains in the MTBR, in the microtubule region, is believed to be very important because it is a critical area that lead to formation and spread of the tau tangles. The job of the drug is blocking this spread from one neuro to another. We did the phase I, and the phase I was very reassuring in terms of safety and tolerability of the product, and now we completed the recruitment of the phase II. The readout of the phase II is going to be next year.
Speaker #6: But I think binding R1 and R3 domains in the MTRB, in the microtubal region is believed to be very important because it is a critical area that lead to formation and spread of the TAO tangles.
Speaker #6: So the job of the drug is blocking this spread from one neuro to another. We did the phase one. And the phase one was very reassuring in terms of safety and tolerability of the product.
Speaker #6: And now we completed the recruitment of the phase two. The readout of the phase two is going to be next year. As you said, is an exciting moment.
Cristian Massacesi: As you said, it's an exciting moment because what is emerging is that the tau clearance is impacting cognition in Alzheimer patient with mild impairment and cognitive impairment, and this can translate maybe into clinical benefit. As you can imagine, our phase II study will assess the tau clearance, but will assess also some endpoints related to cognition and potential of a clinical benefit. This will give us the way forward for the next stage of the development. I'm very excited about this space in general. We have now a second mechanism validated, tau on top of amyloid, and I think now started to emerge also the discussion how we sequence these anti-amyloid versus anti-tau drug, how we combine them.
Cristian Massacesi: As you said, it's an exciting moment because what is emerging is that the tau clearance is impacting cognition in Alzheimer patient with mild impairment and cognitive impairment, and this can translate maybe into clinical benefit. As you can imagine, our phase II study will assess the tau clearance, but will assess also some endpoints related to cognition and potential of a clinical benefit. This will give us the way forward for the next stage of the development. I'm very excited about this space in general. We have now a second mechanism validated, tau on top of amyloid, and I think now started to emerge also the discussion how we sequence these anti-amyloid versus anti-tau drug, how we combine them.
Speaker #6: Because what is emerging is that the TAO clearance is impacting cognition in Alzheimer patient with mild impairment. And cognitive impairment. And this can translate maybe into clinical benefit.
Speaker #6: So as you can imagine, our phase two study will assess TAO clearance, will assess also some endpoints related to cognition and potential of our clinical benefit.
Speaker #6: This will give us the way forward for the next stage of the development. I'm very excited about this space in general. We have now a second mechanism validated TAO on top of amyloid.
Speaker #6: And I think now start to emerge also the discussion how we sequence these anti-amyloid versus anti-TAO drug. How we combine them. And for us is an entry because of course we are very much into this space and developing the next generation of assets that are shuttles to increase the brain penetration.
Cristian Massacesi: For us is an entry because, of course, we are very much into this space and developing the next generation of assets that are shuttles to increase the brain penetration. Very excited about meponitug and see the data next year.
Cristian Massacesi: For us is an entry because, of course, we are very much into this space and developing the next generation of assets that are shuttles to increase the brain penetration. Very excited about meponitug and see the data next year.
Speaker #6: But very excited about Maponitag and see the data next year.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Christian. Great. Next question please.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, Cristian. Great. Next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thanks, Cristian. Great. Next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Luisa Hector with Barenberg. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Luisa Hector with Berenberg. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Luisa Hector with Berenberg. Please go ahead.
Luisa Hector: Hello. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to just check on Milvexian a little bit around how nimble you can be around launch costs. Do you need to pull back on any investment due to this delay, or is it just a matter of a quarter is not a big deal? With that in mind, could you remind us the setup? I mean, ELIQUIS, you have the sales force, you've had the rebate, but you've had some changes there with IRA and pricing. As we think about the future ELIQUIS and then Milvexian hopefully launching, are there any constraints in that partnership with Pfizer on ELIQUIS that makes things more difficult when you launch Milvexian? Just anything we should think about there, or your sales force and your rebate are kind of transferable? Thank you.
Luisa Hector: Hello. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to just check on Milvexian a little bit around how nimble you can be around launch costs. Do you need to pull back on any investment due to this delay, or is it just a matter of a quarter is not a big deal? With that in mind, could you remind us the setup? I mean, ELIQUIS, you have the sales force, you've had the rebate, but you've had some changes there with IRA and pricing. As we think about the future ELIQUIS and then Milvexian hopefully launching, are there any constraints in that partnership with Pfizer on ELIQUIS that makes things more difficult when you launch Milvexian? Just anything we should think about there, or your sales force and your rebate are kind of transferable? Thank you.
Speaker #7: Hello. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to just check on Milvexian a little bit around how nimble you can be around launch cost.
Speaker #7: Do you need to pull back on any investment due to this delay or is it just a matter of a quarter? It's not a big deal.
Speaker #7: And with that in mind, could you remind us the setup? I mean, Eliquis, you have the Salesforce, you've had the rebate, but you've had some changes there with IRA and pricing.
Speaker #7: So as we think about the future, Eliquis and then Milvexian hopefully launching, are there any constraints in that partnership with Pfizer on Eliquis that makes things more difficult when you launch Milvexian?
Speaker #7: Just anything we should think about there or your sales force and your rebate are kind of transferable? Thank you.
Speaker #3: Adam, you want to take that?
Chris Boerner: Adam, you want to take that?
Chris Boerner: Adam, you want to take that?
Speaker #2: Sure. Luisa, thanks for the question. As you said, Milvexian represents a significant commercial opportunity. What's great about Milvexian is we have the infrastructure that has been established now for many years with Eliquis so we have that in place today.
Adam Lenkowsky: Sure, Louise. Thanks for the question. As you said, Milvexian represents a significant commercial opportunity. What's great about Milvexian is we have the infrastructure that has been established now for many years with ELIQUIS. We have that in place today covering virtually all of the physicians in atrial fibrillation. There's also a high overlap with SSPE as well, save for a small number of stroke neurologists that we'll be able to cover in the market today with our current Zeposia team. We really have the full infrastructure commercially set, and we're very much looking forward to launching. As far as the interplay with ELIQUIS. ELIQUIS LOE, as you're aware, is April 2028. This lines up very nicely with the filing and launch timelines of Milvexian. We expect that ELIQUIS LOE to lead directly into the successful launch of Milvexian.
Adam Lenkowsky: Sure, Luisa. Thanks for the question. As you said, Milvexian represents a significant commercial opportunity. What's great about Milvexian is we have the infrastructure that has been established now for many years with ELIQUIS. We have that in place today covering virtually all of the physicians in atrial fibrillation. There's also a high overlap with SSPE as well, save for a small number of stroke neurologists that we'll be able to cover in the market today with our current Zeposia team. We really have the full infrastructure commercially set, and we're very much looking forward to launching. As far as the interplay with ELIQUIS. ELIQUIS LOE, as you're aware, is April 2028. This lines up very nicely with the filing and launch timelines of Milvexian. We expect that ELIQUIS LOE to lead directly into the successful launch of Milvexian.
Speaker #2: Covering virtually all of the physicians in atrial fibrillation. It's also a high overlap with SSP as well. Save for some small number of stroke neurologists that we'll be able to cover in the market today with our current Zipposia team.
Speaker #2: So we really have the full infrastructure commercially set. And we're very much looking forward to launching. As far as the interplay with Eliquis, Eliquis LOE is you're aware is April of 2028.
Speaker #2: And this lines up very nicely with the filing and launch timelines of Milvexian. So we expect that Eliquis LOE to lead directly into the successful launch of Milvexian.
Speaker #3: Yeah. And just to follow up, there would be no constraints with respect to the relationship that we have with Pfizer in terms of our ability to successfully launch and commercialize Milvexian.
Chris Boerner: Yeah. Just to follow up, there would be no constraints with respect to the relationship that we have with Pfizer in terms of our ability to successfully launch and commercialize Milvexian.
Chris Boerner: Yeah. Just to follow up, there would be no constraints with respect to the relationship that we have with Pfizer in terms of our ability to successfully launch and commercialize Milvexian.
Speaker #5: Thank you both.
Chuck Triano: Thank you both. Let's move to the next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Thank you both. Let's move to the next question, please.
Speaker #3: Let's move to the next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from David Reisinger with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from David Risinger with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from David Risinger with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Yes. Thanks very much and thanks for all the updates. So Chris, regarding Milvexian and atrial fibrillation, you had stated in your prepared remarks, quote, "An independent data monitoring committee continues to immerse the study and with the passage of time as the study progresses, we are increasingly encouraged about Milvexian." End quote.
David Risinger: Yes, thanks very much, thanks for all the updates. Chris, regarding Milvexian and atrial fibrillation, you had stated in your prepared remarks, An independent data monitoring committee continues to endorse the study, with the passage of time as the study progresses, we are increasingly encouraged about Milvexian. Can you please comment further on the endorsement, including how you're interpreting study continuation as a positive signal when the DMC is evaluating both efficacy and bleeding? I ask because it's already known and clear that Milvexian is associated with much lower bleeding risk than ELIQUIS. That is not any surprise that lower bleeding would be positive in the trial. I'm more interested in your interpretation on the primary endpoint of efficacy, with respect to your observations. Thank you.
David Risinger: Yes, thanks very much, thanks for all the updates. Chris, regarding Milvexian and atrial fibrillation, you had stated in your prepared remarks, An independent data monitoring committee continues to endorse the study, with the passage of time as the study progresses, we are increasingly encouraged about Milvexian. Can you please comment further on the endorsement, including how you're interpreting study continuation as a positive signal when the DMC is evaluating both efficacy and bleeding? I ask because it's already known and clear that Milvexian is associated with much lower bleeding risk than ELIQUIS. That is not any surprise that lower bleeding would be positive in the trial. I'm more interested in your interpretation on the primary endpoint of efficacy, with respect to your observations. Thank you.
Speaker #5: So can you please comment further on the endorsement, including how you're interpreting study continuation as a positive signal when the DMC is evaluating both efficacy and bleeding?
Speaker #5: I ask because it's already known and clear that Milvexian is associated with much lower bleeding risk than Eliquis. So that is not any surprise that lower bleeding would be positive in the trial.
Speaker #5: So I'm more interested in your interpretation on the primary endpoint of efficacy with respect to your observations. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Sure. Thanks, David. Maybe I'll start and then Christian, you can continue to chime in or extend upon your earlier comments. Look, we continue to see on a routine basis the DMC looking, as you note, at both safety and efficacy.
Chris Boerner: Sure. Thanks, David. Maybe I'll start, then Cristian, you can continue to chime in or extend upon your earlier comment. Look, we continue to see, on a routine basis, the DMC looking, as you note, at both safety and efficacy. If you look not only at the most recent reviews, but really just look at this over time, we've continued to see on this program a slowing of event rates along with the continued view that the efficacy continues to be in line with expectations to continue the study. The safety, as you point out, we had a lot of confidence in.
Chris Boerner: Sure. Thanks, David. Maybe I'll start, then Cristian, you can continue to chime in or extend upon your earlier comment. Look, we continue to see, on a routine basis, the DMC looking, as you note, at both safety and efficacy. If you look not only at the most recent reviews, but really just look at this over time, we've continued to see on this program a slowing of event rates along with the continued view that the efficacy continues to be in line with expectations to continue the study. The safety, as you point out, we had a lot of confidence in.
Speaker #3: And if you look not only at the most recent reviews, but really just look at this over time, we've continued to see on this program a slowing of event rates along with the continued view that the efficacy continues to be in line with expectations to continue the study.
Speaker #3: The safety, as you point out, we had a lot of confidence in. But in the backdrop of this broader program from a competitive standpoint, the fact that we continue to see DMC reviews and that as we look at the blinded data and see the event rate profile, we continue to gain confidence that this program has significant potential to read out in a way that would be a competitive product relative to the position that we have with Eliquis.
Chris Boerner: In the backdrop of this broader program from a competitive standpoint, the fact that we continue to see DMC reviews and that as we look at the blinded data and see the event rate profile, we continue to gain confidence that this program has significant potential to read out in a way that would be a competitive product relative to the position that we have with ELIQUIS. Cristian, do you want to comment further?
Chris Boerner: In the backdrop of this broader program from a competitive standpoint, the fact that we continue to see DMC reviews and that as we look at the blinded data and see the event rate profile, we continue to gain confidence that this program has significant potential to read out in a way that would be a competitive product relative to the position that we have with ELIQUIS. Cristian, do you want to comment further?
Speaker #3: But Christian, do you want to comment further?
Speaker #6: Yeah. David, let me use an analogy in the same disease. With the same class of drug, one study was recently stopped by the DMC based on regular data review because the events were going in a different direction.
Cristian Massacesi: Yeah, David. Let me use an analog in the same disease, AFib, with the same class drug. One study was, in recent times, stopped by the DMC based on regular data review because the events were going in a different direction. There was actually a potential detriment on the primary point on strokes and embolisms in the investigational arm versus the comparator arm ELIQUIS. The DMC stopped the study because that was becoming a problem. Having DMC continues to assess the efficacy and safety data, as you say, and giving us very much closer to the final readout, the reassurance that the study can progress as planned is a good thing. Is a good thing because at least we are sure that we are not bringing anything that goes against the patients or detriment to the patient on efficacy.
Cristian Massacesi: Yeah, David. Let me use an analog in the same disease, AFib, with the same class drug. One study was, in recent times, stopped by the DMC based on regular data review because the events were going in a different direction. There was actually a potential detriment on the primary point on strokes and embolisms in the investigational arm versus the comparator arm ELIQUIS. The DMC stopped the study because that was becoming a problem. Having DMC continues to assess the efficacy and safety data, as you say, and giving us very much closer to the final readout, the reassurance that the study can progress as planned is a good thing. Is a good thing because at least we are sure that we are not bringing anything that goes against the patients or detriment to the patient on efficacy.
Speaker #6: So there was actually a potential detriment on the primary endpoint, on strokes and embolisms. In the investigational arm versus the comparator arm, Eliquis. So the DMC stopped the study because that was becoming a problem.
Speaker #6: So having DMC continues to assess the efficacy and safety data, as you say, and giving us in very much closer to the final readout the reassurance that the study can progress as planned is a good thing.
Speaker #6: It's a good thing because at least we are sure that we are not bringing some anything that goes against the patients or detriment to the patient on efficacy.
Speaker #6: Remember that this study needs to show noninferiority, needs to be as good as Eliquis on strokes and considering the number of events that we recruited so far, the pace of the events, and the DMC continues review, this is this looks good.
Cristian Massacesi: Remember that this study needs to show non-inferiority, needs to be as good as ELIQUIS on strokes. Considering the number of events that we recruited so far, the pace of the events, and the DMC continuous review, this looks good. Then, as you said, the bleedings, probably Milvexian going to be better than ELIQUIS. This is the expectation.
Cristian Massacesi: Remember that this study needs to show non-inferiority, needs to be as good as ELIQUIS on strokes. Considering the number of events that we recruited so far, the pace of the events, and the DMC continuous review, this looks good. Then, as you said, the bleedings, probably Milvexian going to be better than ELIQUIS. This is the expectation.
Speaker #6: And then as you said, the bleedings probably Milvexian going to be better than Eliquis. This is that expectation.
Speaker #5: So if you just step back, in this program generally, David, what I would say is that you continue to have a very strong scientific rationale. We know the strong phase 2 data that we had.
Chris Boerner: If you just step back in this program generally, David, what I would say is that you continue to have very strong scientific rationale. We know the strong phase II data that we had. As you've highlighted, we know the safety and on efficacy, given the event profile and how it's evolving in a blinded fashion and DMCs continue to endorse the continuation of the study. You add all of that up, we feel very good about this program.
Chris Boerner: If you just step back in this program generally, David, what I would say is that you continue to have very strong scientific rationale. We know the strong phase II data that we had. As you've highlighted, we know the safety and on efficacy, given the event profile and how it's evolving in a blinded fashion and DMCs continue to endorse the continuation of the study. You add all of that up, we feel very good about this program.
Speaker #5: As you've highlighted, we know the safety and efficacy. Given the event profile and how it's evolving in a blinded fashion, and DMCs continue to endorse the continuation of the study, you add all of that up, we feel very good about this program.
Speaker #3: Great. Thank you both. Let's move to the next question please.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thank you both. Let's move to the next question, please.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thank you both. Let's move to the next question, please.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Steve Scala with TD Callan. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Steve Scala with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Steve Scala with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Oh, thank you so much. I have two questions. First, how will the increased growth of Eliquis in sales in 2027 and beyond? Is it a tailwind, a headwind, or neither in 2027?
Steve Scala: Thank you so much. I have two questions. First, how will the increased growth of ELIQUIS in 2026 impact sales in 2027 and beyond? Is it a tailwind, a headwind, or neither in 2027? Is any portion of those revenues in 2026 sustainable? Secondly, after a number of phase III setbacks in recent years, Bristol actively addressed study conduct deficiencies. Curious where you stand relative to resolving them, and are Milvexian and Cobenfy delays completely unrelated to any lingering study conduct issues, such as maybe assessment of primary events? Thank you.
Steve Scala: Thank you so much. I have two questions. First, how will the increased growth of ELIQUIS in 2026 impact sales in 2027 and beyond? Is it a tailwind, a headwind, or neither in 2027? Is any portion of those revenues in 2026 sustainable? Secondly, after a number of phase III setbacks in recent years, Bristol actively addressed study conduct deficiencies. Curious where you stand relative to resolving them, and are Milvexian and Cobenfy delays completely unrelated to any lingering study conduct issues, such as maybe assessment of primary events? Thank you.
Speaker #5: And is any portion of those revenues in 2026 sustainable? Secondly, after a number of phase three setbacks in recent years, BRISTOL actively addressed study conduct deficiencies.
Speaker #5: Curious, where do you stand relative to resolving them? And are Milvexian and Cobenfi delays completely unrelated to any lingering study conduct issues, such as maybe assessment of primary events?
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #3: So, thanks for the question, Steve. Maybe, Adam, you want to start with Eliquis, and then Christian, you can address the second part of the question.
Chris Boerner: Thanks for the question, Steve. Maybe Adam, you want to start with ELIQUIS, and then Cristian, you can address the second part of the question.
Chris Boerner: Thanks for the question, Steve. Maybe Adam, you want to start with ELIQUIS, and then Cristian, you can address the second part of the question.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Steve, thanks for the question. Eliquis continues to deliver strong demand growth. In fact, in the U.S., due to brand share, it is approaching 80%.
Adam Lenkowsky: Yes. Steve, thanks for the question. ELIQUIS continues to deliver strong demand growth back in the US, due to brand share is approaching 80%. As we said coming into this year, we would see the benefit of the WAC reduction taken 1 January in the H2, and thus sales in the US for the H2 would be higher than in the H1. As David talked about, ELIQUIS sales this year are anticipated to grow roughly 20% to 25% year-over-year. Now, we still expect the $1.5 to $2 billion step down in 2027, that we referenced on the Q1 call. We'll clearly provide any appropriate update in conjunction with our 2027 guidance when issued. The US sales certainly would carry forward to next year, offset by the patent expiry of ELIQUIS in Europe in mid-Q4. Cristian?
Adam Lenkowsky: Yes. Steve, thanks for the question. ELIQUIS continues to deliver strong demand growth back in the US, due to brand share is approaching 80%. As we said coming into this year, we would see the benefit of the WAC reduction taken 1 January in the H2, and thus sales in the US for the H2 would be higher than in the H1. As David talked about, ELIQUIS sales this year are anticipated to grow roughly 20% to 25% year-over-year. Now, we still expect the $1.5 to $2 billion step down in 2027, that we referenced on the Q1 call. We'll clearly provide any appropriate update in conjunction with our 2027 guidance when issued. The US sales certainly would carry forward to next year, offset by the patent expiry of ELIQUIS in Europe in mid-Q4. Cristian?
Speaker #2: As we said coming into this year, we would see the benefit of the whack reduction taken January 1st in the second half of the year, and thus sales in the US in the second half would be higher than in the first half of the year.
Speaker #2: And as we talked about, David talked about, Eliquis sales this year are anticipated to grow roughly 20 to 25% year over year. Now, we still expect the 1.5 to $2 billion step-down in 2027 that we referenced on the Q1 call.
Speaker #2: We'll clearly provide any appropriate update in conjunction with our 2027 guidance when issued. But the U.S. sales certainly would carry forward to next year, offset by the patent expiry of Eliquis in Europe in mid-Q4.
Speaker #2: Christian?
Speaker #6: Thank you, Steve, for the question. Very, very broad one. Let me tell you that—let me start with the general concept. The phase three trial can fail if the science doesn't hold.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you, Steve, for the question. Very broad one. Let me start with the general concept. A phase III trial can fail if the science doesn't hold. You cannot do a lot on that. Most of the time fails because also execution, can be related to the execution. Execution means not only how you run the trial, but also the study design, the statistical assumptions, the comparator arm performance, and so on. What we did as a general way of working was to identify in any of the ongoing studies potential risks and mitigate them. It's impossible to have 100% probability of success in any of the registrational studies. You want to get as close as possible to that. This is what now we are working, integrating AI technology, data, and everything to have for each program, this PTS improvement.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you, Steve, for the question. Very broad one. Let me start with the general concept. A phase III trial can fail if the science doesn't hold. You cannot do a lot on that. Most of the time fails because also execution, can be related to the execution. Execution means not only how you run the trial, but also the study design, the statistical assumptions, the comparator arm performance, and so on. What we did as a general way of working was to identify in any of the ongoing studies potential risks and mitigate them. It's impossible to have 100% probability of success in any of the registrational studies. You want to get as close as possible to that. This is what now we are working, integrating AI technology, data, and everything to have for each program, this PTS improvement.
Speaker #6: You cannot do a lot on that. But most of the time, fails because also execution can be related to the execution. Execution means not only how you run the trial, but also the study design.
Speaker #6: The statistical assumptions, the comparator arm performance, and so on. So what we did as a general way of working was to identify in any of the ongoing studies potential risks and mitigate them.
Speaker #6: Because this is with none it's impossible to have 100% probability of success in any of the registration studies. But you can get you want to get as close as possible to that.
Speaker #6: And this is what now we are working integrating AI technology, data, and everything to have, for each program, this TTS improvement. Milvexian and Cobenfi delays are unrelated in a certain way because Milvexian is event-driven and actually the event slowing down, I see favorably, because it brings us on what we were expecting.
Cristian Massacesi: Milvexian and COBENFY delays are unrelated in a certain way because Milvexian is event-driven, and actually the event is slowing down favorably because of being as on what we were expecting. For COBENFY, quality is another potential aspect that can lead to failure of studies, and preserving quality is capital to increase success. This is one of the reasons for ADEPT-2 and ADEPT-4 of the delay. ADEPT-1, again, is event-driven, and actually event count is lower can be a good sign.
Cristian Massacesi: Milvexian and COBENFY delays are unrelated in a certain way because Milvexian is event-driven, and actually the event is slowing down favorably because of being as on what we were expecting. For COBENFY, quality is another potential aspect that can lead to failure of studies, and preserving quality is capital to increase success. This is one of the reasons for ADEPT-2 and ADEPT-4 of the delay. ADEPT-1, again, is event-driven, and actually event count is lower can be a good sign.
Speaker #6: And for Cobenfi, quality is another potential aspect of that can lead to failure of studies. And preserving quality is capital to increase success. And this is one of the reasons for ADAPT2 and ADAPT4 of the delay.
Speaker #6: ADAPT1, again, is event-driven and actually event coming slower can be a good sign.
Speaker #3: Steve, let me just weigh in on maybe that last comment. So Christian's approaching is one year anniversary at the company. And I just want to say I'm incredibly pleased with the progress that he and the team have made.
Chris Boerner: Steve, let me just weigh in on maybe that last comment. Cristian's approaching his 1-year anniversary at the company, and I just want to say I'm incredibly pleased with the progress that he and the team have made. He has been consistently focusing on making sure we have the right scientific talents and expertise across therapeutic areas. He's brought an incredible focus on being great operationally. He's made good progress on ensuring we've got the right infrastructure and ways of working. At the end of the day, we continue to make sure that we're investing in the right areas of science where the company can be successful. If you add all of that up, I feel very good that the R&D engine that he's helping to build is going to sustain the growth of this enterprise.
Chris Boerner: Steve, let me just weigh in on maybe that last comment. Cristian's approaching his 1-year anniversary at the company, and I just want to say I'm incredibly pleased with the progress that he and the team have made. He has been consistently focusing on making sure we have the right scientific talents and expertise across therapeutic areas. He's brought an incredible focus on being great operationally. He's made good progress on ensuring we've got the right infrastructure and ways of working. At the end of the day, we continue to make sure that we're investing in the right areas of science where the company can be successful. If you add all of that up, I feel very good that the R&D engine that he's helping to build is going to sustain the growth of this enterprise.
Speaker #3: He has been consistently focusing on making sure we have the right scientific talents and expertise across therapeutic areas. He's brought an incredible operationally. We've made good progress on ensuring we've got the right infrastructure and ways of working.
Speaker #3: And at the end of the day, we continue to make sure that we're investing in the right areas of science where the company can be successful.
Speaker #3: And if you add all of that up, I feel very good that the R&D engine that he's helping to build is going to sustain the growth of this enterprise.
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks. And Alfred, if we could please take our last question.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thanks. Operator, if we could please take our last question.
Chuck Triano: Great. Thanks. Operator, if we could please take our last question.
Operator: The last question today will come from Akash Tewari with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Operator: The last question today will come from Akash Tewari with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: The last question today. We'll come from Akash Tawari with Jeffries. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, thank you. Just a clarification on Milvexian. You previously mentioned both bleeding events and AFib events need to mature for the trial to stop.
Akash Tewari: Hey, thank you. Just a clarification on Milvexian. You previously mentioned both bleeding events and AFib events need to mature for the trial to stop. Are both bleeding and AFib tracking slower than expected, or have we already reached the required number of events for bleeding events already? Thank you.
Akash Tewari: Hey, thank you. Just a clarification on Milvexian. You previously mentioned both bleeding events and AFib events need to mature for the trial to stop. Are both bleeding and AFib tracking slower than expected, or have we already reached the required number of events for bleeding events already? Thank you.
Speaker #7: Are both bleeding and AFib tracking slower than expected, or have we already reached the required number of events for bleeding events already? Thank you.
Chris Boerner: Christian.
Chris Boerner: Christian.
Speaker #3: Christian.
Speaker #6: Thank you, Akash. I don't drive on the number of events. What I can tell you, because this is we disclose this, we need to recruit 430 events for primary endpoint, soaks and embolisms.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you, Akash. I don't drive on the number of events. What I can tell you, because we disclosed this, we need to recruit 430 events for primary endpoint, strokes and embolisms, and 530 event for bleedings. We want to achieve both numbers before locking the database and have it read out, because the primary endpoint is very important, but also how we test the superiority of readings is also very important. We are on track for this, and this will happen Q1 2027.
Cristian Massacesi: Thank you, Akash. I don't drive on the number of events. What I can tell you, because we disclosed this, we need to recruit 430 events for primary endpoint, strokes and embolisms, and 530 event for bleedings. We want to achieve both numbers before locking the database and have it read out, because the primary endpoint is very important, but also how we test the superiority of readings is also very important. We are on track for this, and this will happen Q1 2027.
Speaker #6: And 530 events for bleedings. We want to achieve both numbers before looking at the database and having it out because the primary endpoint is very important, but also then we test the superiority on bleedings is also very important.
Speaker #6: So we are on track for this. And this will happen first quarter 2027.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Christian. So let me just say in closing that I just want to reiterate that a big focus of the team has been to drive what we call a state-of-do ratio.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Cristian. Let me just say in closing that, I just want to reiterate that a big focus of the team has been to drive what we call a say-to-do ratio, and I think what you're seeing in the performance for the quarter is that we're doing what we said we would do. Today's results really underscore the impact of what we see as a multi-year strategy to reshape our business and drive sustainable growth. We're delivering very strong commercial execution across our growth portfolio. We're advancing a broad and differentiated pipeline, while being very disciplined in maintaining the financial flexibility that we need to invest in future growth, while also, of course, returning capital to shareholders. We continue to strengthen the company through focused execution, and we're very confident in the long-term trajectory of the business.
Chris Boerner: Thanks, Cristian. Let me just say in closing that, I just want to reiterate that a big focus of the team has been to drive what we call a say-to-do ratio, and I think what you're seeing in the performance for the quarter is that we're doing what we said we would do. Today's results really underscore the impact of what we see as a multi-year strategy to reshape our business and drive sustainable growth. We're delivering very strong commercial execution across our growth portfolio. We're advancing a broad and differentiated pipeline, while being very disciplined in maintaining the financial flexibility that we need to invest in future growth, while also, of course, returning capital to shareholders. We continue to strengthen the company through focused execution, and we're very confident in the long-term trajectory of the business.
Speaker #3: And I think what you're seeing in the performance for the quarter is that we're doing what we said we to do. We would do today's results really underscore the impact of what we see as a multi-year strategy, a reshape our business, and drive sustainable growth.
Speaker #3: We're delivering very strong commercial execution across our growth portfolio. We're advancing a broad and differentiated pipeline while being very disciplined in maintaining the financial flexibility that we need to invest in future growth while also, of course, returning capital to shareholders.
Speaker #3: We continue to see the company through focused execution we continue to strengthen, rather, the company through focused execution. And we're very confident in the long-term trajectory of the business.
Speaker #3: So finally, I'd like to just thank our colleagues around the world for their continued dedication to the mission that we have. And to their focus on serving our patients.
Chris Boerner: Finally, I'd like to just thank our colleagues around the world for their continued dedication to the mission that we have and to their focus on serving our patients. Thank you all for joining us today, and as always, we'll be available for any follow-up questions. Thanks.
Chris Boerner: Finally, I'd like to just thank our colleagues around the world for their continued dedication to the mission that we have and to their focus on serving our patients. Thank you all for joining us today, and as always, we'll be available for any follow-up questions. Thanks.
Speaker #3: So thank you all for joining us today. And as always, we'll be available for any follow-up questions. Thanks.
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