Q2 2026 Pharming Group NV Earnings Call
Speaker #2: Thank you, operator. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our Q2 2026 earnings call. I'll be joined on this call today by Lieven March, our Chief Commercial Officer; Anurag Rellan, our Chief Medical Officer; and Kenneth Linnert, our Chief Financial Officer.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, operator. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our Q2 2026 earnings call. I'll be joined on this call today by Leverne Marsh, our Chief Commercial Officer, Anurag Relan, our Chief Medical Officer, and Kenneth Lynard, our Chief Financial Officer. In this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that are based upon our current insights and plans. As you know, this may differ from future results. As you saw in today's press release, while we lowered our full-year revenue guidance, we are encouraged by the resilience of RUCONEST with robust underlying demand indicators. Joenja continued to deliver strong growth, and we are approaching a number of significant near-term catalysts. Before I go into more detail on the quarter, let me take a step back and put these developments into the context of the ongoing transformation of Pharming.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, operator. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our Q2 2026 earnings call. I'll be joined on this call today by Leverne Marsh, our Chief Commercial Officer, Anurag Relan, our Chief Medical Officer, and Kenneth Lynard, our Chief Financial Officer. In this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that are based upon our current insights and plans. As you know, this may differ from future results. As you saw in today's press release, while we lowered our full-year revenue guidance, we are encouraged by the resilience of RUCONEST with robust underlying demand indicators. Joenja continued to deliver strong growth, and we are approaching a number of significant near-term catalysts. Before I go into more detail on the quarter, let me take a step back and put these developments into the context of the ongoing transformation of Pharming.
Speaker #2: In this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that are based on our current insights and plans. As you know, these may differ from future results.
Speaker #2: As you saw in today's press release, while we lowered our full-year revenue guidance, we are encouraged by the resilience of Rekonest, with robust underlying demand indicators.
Speaker #2: Join Jack continues to deliver strong growth, and we are approaching a number of significant near-term catalysts. Before I go into more detail on the quarter, let me take a step back and put this development into the context of the ongoing transformation of Pharming.
Speaker #2: We are evolving Pharming into a more diversified rare disease company with an increasingly attractive long-term growth profile. This is supported by three key pillars: Rekonest, which provides a durable source of cash flow; Joinja, a high-growth asset still early in its life cycle with significant commercial opportunities ahead; and a high-value pipeline with two potential billion-dollar opportunities.
Fabrice Chouraqui: We are evolving Pharming into a more diversified rare disease company with an increasingly attractive long-term growth profile. This is supported by three key pillars. RUCONEST, which provides a durable source of cash flow. Joenja, a high-growth asset still early in its life cycle with significant commercial opportunities ahead. A high-value pipeline with two potential billion-dollar opportunities. Each of these pipeline programs has the potential to materially increase our scale and are important steps forward in our ambition to making Pharming a leading global rare disease company. We've made important progress across the business during the second quarter, despite a 3% year-over-year decline in total revenue. RUCONEST revenue declined to $72.3 million, compared with $80.4 million in the second quarter of last year. However, we are encouraged by the underlying performance indicators, which demonstrate the resilience of RUCONEST in an evolving on-demand HAE market.
Fabrice Chouraqui: We are evolving Pharming into a more diversified rare disease company with an increasingly attractive long-term growth profile. This is supported by three key pillars. RUCONEST, which provides a durable source of cash flow. Joenja, a high-growth asset still early in its life cycle with significant commercial opportunities ahead. A high-value pipeline with two potential billion-dollar opportunities. Each of these pipeline programs has the potential to materially increase our scale and are important steps forward in our ambition to making Pharming a leading global rare disease company. We've made important progress across the business during the second quarter, despite a 3% year-over-year decline in total revenue. RUCONEST revenue declined to $72.3 million, compared with $80.4 million in the second quarter of last year. However, we are encouraged by the underlying performance indicators, which demonstrate the resilience of RUCONEST in an evolving on-demand HAE market.
Speaker #2: Each of these pipeline programs has the potential to materially increase our scale and are important steps forward in our ambition to make Pharming a leading global rare disease company.
Speaker #2: We've made important progress across the business during the second quarter. Despite a 3% year-over-year decline in total revenue, Rekonest revenue declined to $72.3 million compared with $80.4 million in the second quarter of last year.
Speaker #2: However, we are encouraged by the underlying performance indicators, which demonstrate the resilience of Rekonest in an evolving on-demand HA market. One year after the launch of the first oral on-demand HA treatment, the Rekonest active patient base remained at 93% of levels from a year ago.
Fabrice Chouraqui: One year after the launch of the first oral on-demand HAE treatment, the RUCONEST active patient base remained at 93% of levels a year ago. We are also seeing strong new patient enrollments, which have returned to levels close to those of a year ago. We expect this to support momentum over the coming months as these patients initiate treatment. We also continue to see new prescribers using RUCONEST, which underscore RUCONEST differentiated value proposition for high-burden patients. Leverne will provide further detail on the RUCONEST performance later in the call. Turning to Joenja, we delivered another quarter of strong growth, with revenue increasing by 40% to $17.9 million. We remain focused on expanding the opportunity for Joenja in APDS through both label and geographic expansion, and we are pleased to see commercial momentum accelerating in Europe.
Fabrice Chouraqui: One year after the launch of the first oral on-demand HAE treatment, the RUCONEST active patient base remained at 93% of levels a year ago. We are also seeing strong new patient enrollments, which have returned to levels close to those of a year ago. We expect this to support momentum over the coming months as these patients initiate treatment. We also continue to see new prescribers using RUCONEST, which underscore RUCONEST differentiated value proposition for high-burden patients. Leverne will provide further detail on the RUCONEST performance later in the call. Turning to Joenja, we delivered another quarter of strong growth, with revenue increasing by 40% to $17.9 million. We remain focused on expanding the opportunity for Joenja in APDS through both label and geographic expansion, and we are pleased to see commercial momentum accelerating in Europe.
Speaker #2: We are also seeing strong new patient enrollments, which have returned to levels close to those of a year ago. And we expect this to support momentum over the coming months as these patient initiate treatment.
Speaker #2: We also continue to see new prescribers using Rekonest, which underscores Rekonest's differentiated value proposition for high-burden patients. Lieven will provide further detail on the Rekonest performance later in the call.
Speaker #2: Turning to Joenja, we delivered another quarter of strong growth, with revenue increasing by 40% to $17.9 million. We remain focused on expanding the opportunity for Joenja in APDS through both label and geographic expansion, and we are pleased to see commercial momentum accelerating in Europe.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Beyond APDS, we see a potentially significant opportunity for leniolisib in broader primary immunodeficiencies, including CVID. This indication represents an addressable patient population up to 40 times larger than APDS. Anurag will provide more detail on the mechanistic rationale underpinning our excitement in these additional indications. With greater visibility into the current HAE market dynamic, which is much clearer a full year after the launch of the first oral on-demand treatment, we have decided to lower our full-year revenue guidance by $30 million. Nevertheless, based on the underlying trends we are seeing, we expect RUCONEST revenue to stabilize and to return to growth during H2 2026. Importantly, our increasingly disciplined operating model has enabled us to maintain positive cash flow from operations.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Beyond APDS, we see a potentially significant opportunity for leniolisib in broader primary immunodeficiencies, including CVID. This indication represents an addressable patient population up to 40 times larger than APDS. Anurag will provide more detail on the mechanistic rationale underpinning our excitement in these additional indications. With greater visibility into the current HAE market dynamic, which is much clearer a full year after the launch of the first oral on-demand treatment, we have decided to lower our full-year revenue guidance by $30 million. Nevertheless, based on the underlying trends we are seeing, we expect RUCONEST revenue to stabilize and to return to growth during H2 2026. Importantly, our increasingly disciplined operating model has enabled us to maintain positive cash flow from operations.
Speaker #2: Beyond APDS, we see a potentially significant opportunity for Lanyolizib in broader primary immunodeficiencies, including CIVIS. This indication represents an addressable patient population up to 40 times larger than APDS.
Speaker #2: Anurag will provide more detail on the mechanistic rationale underpinning our excitement in these additional indications. With greater visibility into the current HA market dynamic, which is much clearer a full year after the launch of the first oral on-demand treatment, we have decided to lower our full-year revenue guidance by $30 million.
Speaker #2: Nevertheless, based on the underlying trends we are seeing, we expect Rekonest's revenue to stabilize and return to growth during the second half of 2026.
Speaker #2: Importantly, our increasingly disciplined operating model has enabled us to maintain positive cash flow from operations. We have also reduced our full-year operating expense guidance by $15 million to a range of $315 million to $320 million.
Fabrice Chouraqui: We have also reduced our full-year operating expense guidance by $15 million to a range of $315 million to $320 million. As we position Pharming for an important H2 2026, our priorities are clear. First, we will continue to reinforce RUCONEST's differentiated value proposition for high-disease burden patients and build on the solid underlying performance indicators that we have seen in Q2. Second, we will continue to drive the growth of the Joenja franchise, supported by the potential pediatric label expansion in the US and further geographic expansion into new markets, including Japan. Importantly, we expect to advance our pipeline at pace with the readout in Q4 of the 2 phase II studies for leniolisib in much broader CV patient populations.
Fabrice Chouraqui: We have also reduced our full-year operating expense guidance by $15 million to a range of $315 million to $320 million. As we position Pharming for an important H2 2026, our priorities are clear. First, we will continue to reinforce RUCONEST's differentiated value proposition for high-disease burden patients and build on the solid underlying performance indicators that we have seen in Q2. Second, we will continue to drive the growth of the Joenja franchise, supported by the potential pediatric label expansion in the US and further geographic expansion into new markets, including Japan. Importantly, we expect to advance our pipeline at pace with the readout in Q4 of the two phase II studies for leniolisib in much broader CV patient populations.
Speaker #2: So, as we position Pharming for an important second half of 2026, our priorities are clear. First, we will continue to reinforce Rekonest's differentiated value proposition for high disease-burden patients.
Speaker #2: And build on the solid underlying performance indicators that we have seen in the second quarter. Second, we will continue to drive the growth of the Joenja franchise, supported by the potential pediatric label expansion in the US and further geographic expansion into new markets, including Japan.
Speaker #2: And importantly, we expect to advance our pipeline at pace with the readout in Q4 of the two Phase 2 studies for Laniolizib in a much broader CV patient population.
Speaker #2: Success in these indications could expand the annual sales potential of Joinja to more than $1 billion and establish Joinja as a blockbuster franchise.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Success in this indication could expand the annual sales potential of Joenja to more than a billion dollar and establish Joenja as a blockbuster franchise. With that, I will turn the call over to Leverne to discuss our progress on the commercial front. Leverne?
Fabrice Chouraqui: Success in this indication could expand the annual sales potential of Joenja to more than a billion dollar and establish Joenja as a blockbuster franchise. With that, I will turn the call over to Leverne to discuss our progress on the commercial front. Leverne?
Speaker #2: With that, I will turn the call over to Lieven to discuss our progress on the commercial front. Lieven?
Speaker #1: Thank you for the brief. Good morning, good afternoon, everyone. Let me begin with Rekonest. This quarter, Rekonest's revenue was $72.3 million, down 10% year over year, but up sequentially by 24%.
Leverne Marsh: Thank you, Fabrice. Good morning, good afternoon, everyone. Let me begin with RUCONEST. This quarter, RUCONEST revenue was $72.3 million, down 10% year over year but up sequentially by 24%. The year over year decline reflected continued competitive dynamics in the US, completion of our planned withdrawal from international markets, and a temporary inventory normalization. I am pleased to report that nearly 1 year after the launch of a new oral on-demand treatment, the active RUCONEST patient base remains highly resilient at approximately 93% of the prior year level. While some patients are evaluating new treatment options, the vast majority have continued on RUCONEST, as this drug remains especially important for patients who have more frequent attacks or severe attacks who need reliable on-demand treatment. Also notable, we have not seen a reduction in RUCONEST utilization amongst patients receiving newer prophylactic treatments.
Leverne Marsh: Thank you, Fabrice. Good morning, good afternoon, everyone. Let me begin with RUCONEST. This quarter, RUCONEST revenue was $72.3 million, down 10% year over year but up sequentially by 24%. The year over year decline reflected continued competitive dynamics in the US, completion of our planned withdrawal from international markets, and a temporary inventory normalization. I am pleased to report that nearly one year after the launch of a new oral on-demand treatment, the active RUCONEST patient base remains highly resilient at approximately 93% of the prior year level. While some patients are evaluating new treatment options, the vast majority have continued on RUCONEST, as this drug remains especially important for patients who have more frequent attacks or severe attacks who need reliable on-demand treatment. Also notable, we have not seen a reduction in RUCONEST utilization amongst patients receiving newer prophylactic treatments.
Speaker #1: The year-over-year decline reflected continued competitive dynamics in the US, completion of our planned withdrawal from international markets, and a temporary inventory normalization. I am pleased to report that nearly one year after the launch of a new oral on-demand treatment, the active Rekonest patient base remains highly resilient at approximately 93% of the prior-year level.
Speaker #1: While some patients are evaluating new treatment options, the vast majority have continued on Rekonest, as this drug remains especially important for patients who have more frequent or severe attacks and need reliable on-demand treatment.
Speaker #1: Also notable, we've not seen a reduction in Rekonest utilization amongst patients receiving newer prophylactic treatments. This reinforces that preventive and on-demand therapies play complementary roles in managing HAE.
Leverne Marsh: This reinforces that preventive and on-demand therapies play complementary roles in managing HAE. We're also encouraged by the upticks in new demand. During the quarter, we recorded 84 new patient enrollments, up substantially from approximately 50 in Q1 and close to the high level we received during 2025 Q2. We also added 17 new prescribers, suggesting continued physician confidence even following the addition of a new competitor. Importantly, we see underlying US demand improving. The resilient patient base, improvement in new enrollments, and continued addition of prescribers support our belief that revenue will stabilize, and RUCONEST is expected to return to growth during H2 of the year. Next slide. These patient retention and demand dynamics reflect the distinct role that RUCONEST continues to play in high-burden HAE patients.
Leverne Marsh: This reinforces that preventive and on-demand therapies play complementary roles in managing HAE. We're also encouraged by the upticks in new demand. During the quarter, we recorded 84 new patient enrollments, up substantially from approximately 50 in Q1 and close to the high level we received during 2025 Q2. We also added 17 new prescribers, suggesting continued physician confidence even following the addition of a new competitor. Importantly, we see underlying US demand improving. The resilient patient base, improvement in new enrollments, and continued addition of prescribers support our belief that revenue will stabilize, and RUCONEST is expected to return to growth during H2 of the year. Next slide. These patient retention and demand dynamics reflect the distinct role that RUCONEST continues to play in high-burden HAE patients.
Speaker #1: We're also encouraged by the upticks in new demand. During the quarter, we recorded 84 new patient enrollments, up substantially from approximately 50 in the first quarter, and close to the high level we received during Q2 2025.
Speaker #1: We also added 17 new prescribers, suggesting continued physician confidence even following the addition of a new competitor. Importantly, we see underlying US demand improving.
Speaker #1: The resilient patient base, improvement in new enrollments, and continued addition of prescribers support our belief that revenue will stabilize, and Rekonest is expected to return to growth during the second half of the year.
Speaker #1: Next slide. These patient retention and demand dynamics reflect the distinct role that Rekonest continues to play in high-burden HAE patients. HAE is challenging to treat, as it affects patients differently, and no single treatment meets every patient's needs.
Leverne Marsh: HAE is challenging to treat as it affects patients differently, and no single treatment meets every patient's needs. Convenience matters, but for patients with more frequent attacks, with more severe attacks, reliability, rapid onset, and confidence in their treatment are critical, particularly when attacks occur in high-risk locations or other therapies have not provided adequate control. RUCONEST is well-suited to meet these needs. By replacing deficient or dysfunctional C1 esterase inhibitor, it helps restore control of the pathways that drive HAE attacks while providing the efficacy and reliability of a self-administered IV treatment. This differentiated clinical profile explains why physicians could continue to prescribe RUCONEST, including for new patients with more severe disease. Separately, RUCONEST's highly specialized manufacturing process limits the potential for direct biosimilar competition, supporting its durable commercial position well into the future. Next slide, please. The data shown here bring that differentiated profile into focus.
Leverne Marsh: HAE is challenging to treat as it affects patients differently, and no single treatment meets every patient's needs. Convenience matters, but for patients with more frequent attacks, with more severe attacks, reliability, rapid onset, and confidence in their treatment are critical, particularly when attacks occur in high-risk locations or other therapies have not provided adequate control. RUCONEST is well-suited to meet these needs. By replacing deficient or dysfunctional C1 esterase inhibitor, it helps restore control of the pathways that drive HAE attacks while providing the efficacy and reliability of a self-administered IV treatment. This differentiated clinical profile explains why physicians could continue to prescribe RUCONEST, including for new patients with more severe disease. Separately, RUCONEST's highly specialized manufacturing process limits the potential for direct biosimilar competition, supporting its durable commercial position well into the future. Next slide, please. The data shown here bring that differentiated profile into focus.
Speaker #1: Convenience matters, but for patients with more frequent attacks, with more severe attacks, reliability, rapid onset, and confidence in their treatment are critical, particularly when attacks occur in high-risk locations or other therapies have not provided adequate control.
Speaker #1: Ruconest is well suited to meet these needs. By replacing deficient or dysfunctional C1 esterase inhibitor, it helps restore control of the pathways that drive HAE attacks, while providing the efficacy and reliability of a self-administered IV treatment.
Speaker #1: This differentiated clinical profile explains why physicians continue to prescribe Rekonest, including for new patients with more severe disease. Separately, Rekonest's highly specialized manufacturing process limits the potential for direct biosimilar competition, supporting its durable commercial position well into the future.
Speaker #1: Next slide, please. The data shown here bring that differentiated profile into focus. In clinical studies, 97% of acute attacks required only one dose of Ruconest.
Leverne Marsh: In clinical studies, 97% of acute attacks required only one dose of RUCONEST, and RUCONEST stopped 93% of attacks for at least three days. Importantly, RUCONEST also demonstrated a median time to complete attack resolution of approximately four and a half hours, a key point of differentiation versus competition. Taken together, HAE patients with a high disease burden, this combination of efficacy, reliability, and rapid and complete attack resolution provides the confidence to both patients and physicians in choosing RUCONEST as their on-demand treatment. These data reinforce our belief that RUCONEST will remain an important on-demand therapy for high-burden HAE patients and a durable part of Pharming's commercial portfolio. Next slide, please. Turning now to Joenja. We delivered another strong quarter and continued to build momentum across the US and international markets.
Leverne Marsh: In clinical studies, 97% of acute attacks required only one dose of RUCONEST, and RUCONEST stopped 93% of attacks for at least three days. Importantly, RUCONEST also demonstrated a median time to complete attack resolution of approximately four and a half hours, a key point of differentiation versus competition. Taken together, HAE patients with a high disease burden, this combination of efficacy, reliability, and rapid and complete attack resolution provides the confidence to both patients and physicians in choosing RUCONEST as their on-demand treatment. These data reinforce our belief that RUCONEST will remain an important on-demand therapy for high-burden HAE patients and a durable part of Pharming's commercial portfolio. Next slide, please. Turning now to Joenja. We delivered another strong quarter and continued to build momentum across the US and international markets.
Speaker #1: And Rekonest stopped 93% of attacks for at least three days. Importantly, Rekonest also demonstrated a median time to complete attack resolution of approximately four and a half hours—a key point of differentiation versus the competition.
Speaker #1: Taken together, for HAE patients with a high disease burden, this combination of efficacy, reliability, and rapid and complete attack resolution provides confidence to both patients and physicians in choosing Rekonest as their on-demand treatment.
Speaker #1: And these data reinforce our belief that Ruconest will remain an important on-demand therapy for high-burden HAE patients and a durable part of Pharming's commercial portfolio.
Speaker #1: Next slide, please. Turning now to Joinja. We delivered another strong quarter and continue to build momentum across the US and international markets. Global revenue increased 40% year over year to 17.9 million dollars, while the US revenue grew 31% to 15.4 million dollars and international revenue increased 150% to two and a half million dollars reflecting growing uptake and high adherence.
Leverne Marsh: Global revenue increased 40% year over year to $17.9 million, while the US revenue grew 31% to $15.4 million and international revenue increased 170% to $2.5 million, reflecting growing uptake and high adherence. In the US, new patient starts continue to drive sales growth. By the end of the quarter, 132 patients were on paid therapy, up 16% year over year, and five patients essentially over Q1. We're also continuing to expand the diagnosed APDS population. During the quarter, the number of identified US patients increased by 16 to 298, including 60 patients between the ages of four and 11, which is a key catalyst for future growth in APDS. As we identify more patients, we see meaningful room for continued growth in patients on therapy, both in the US and internationally. Next slide, please. Looking ahead, we see several opportunities to continue expanding Joenja.
Leverne Marsh: Global revenue increased 40% year over year to $17.9 million, while the US revenue grew 31% to $15.4 million and international revenue increased 170% to $2.5 million, reflecting growing uptake and high adherence. In the US, new patient starts continue to drive sales growth. By the end of the quarter, 132 patients were on paid therapy, up 16% year over year, and five patients essentially over Q1. We're also continuing to expand the diagnosed APDS population. During the quarter, the number of identified US patients increased by 16 to 298, including 60 patients between the ages of four and 11, which is a key catalyst for future growth in APDS. As we identify more patients, we see meaningful room for continued growth in patients on therapy, both in the US and internationally. Next slide, please. Looking ahead, we see several opportunities to continue expanding Joenja.
Speaker #1: In the US, new patient starts continue to drive sales growth. By the end of the quarter, 132 patients were on paid therapy, up 16% year over year and five patients higher than in Q1.
Speaker #1: We're also continuing to expand the diagnosed APDS population. During the quarter, the number of identified U.S. patients increased by 16 to 298, including 60 patients between the ages of four and 11, which is a key catalyst for future growth in APDS.
Speaker #1: As we identify more patients, we see meaningful room for continued growth in patients on therapy, both in the US and internationally. Next slide, please.
Speaker #1: Looking ahead, we see several opportunities to continue expanding Joenja. In the US, sources of growth in APDS include continued patient identification, increased genetic testing, and continued efforts to reclassify VUSs.
Leverne Marsh: In the US, sources of growth in APDS include continued patient identification, increased genetic testing, and continued efforts to reclassify VUSs. Pediatric expansion is the next important growth opportunity. We are awaiting our 24 October PDUFA date for approval of the higher 40 and 50 milligram doses, and I am pleased to report the filing of the sNDA for the lower 20 and 30 milligram doses will be submitted to the FDA today. We are also expanding internationally. Our first European launch is now underway in Germany, and we are preparing to launch in Japan in Q3. Together with continued growth in the UK and other markets, these launches significantly increase the number of patients we are positioned to reach. Finally, our phase II studies in genetic PIDs and CVID with immune dysregulation are evaluating substantially larger patient populations for Joenja beyond APDS.
Leverne Marsh: In the US, sources of growth in APDS include continued patient identification, increased genetic testing, and continued efforts to reclassify VUSs. Pediatric expansion is the next important growth opportunity. We are awaiting our 24 October PDUFA date for approval of the higher 40 and 50 milligram doses, and I am pleased to report the filing of the sNDA for the lower 20 and 30 milligram doses will be submitted to the FDA today. We are also expanding internationally. Our first European launch is now underway in Germany, and we are preparing to launch in Japan in Q3. Together with continued growth in the UK and other markets, these launches significantly increase the number of patients we are positioned to reach. Finally, our phase II studies in genetic PIDs and CVID with immune dysregulation are evaluating substantially larger patient populations for Joenja beyond APDS.
Speaker #1: Pediatric expansion is the next important growth opportunity. We are awaiting our October 24th PDUFA date for approval of the higher 40- and 50-milligram doses.
Speaker #1: And I am pleased to report the filing of the SNDA for the lower 20- and 30-milligram doses will be submitted to the FDA today.
Speaker #1: We are also expanding internationally. Our first European launch is now underway in Germany, and we are preparing to launch in Japan in the third quarter.
Speaker #1: Together with continued growth in the UK and other markets, these launches significantly increase the number of patients we are positioned to reach. Finally, our Phase 2 studies in genetic PIDs and CVID with immune dysregulation are evaluating substantially larger patient populations for Joinja beyond APDS.
Speaker #1: Together, these opportunities provide multiple sequential drivers of growth for Joinja, supporting our ambition to build a broader immunology franchise and positioning Joinja for potential blockbuster status.
Leverne Marsh: Together, these opportunities provide multiple sequential drivers of growth for Joenja, supporting our ambition to build a broader immunology franchise and positioning Joenja for potential blockbuster status. With that, I will now turn over to Anurag.
Leverne Marsh: Together, these opportunities provide multiple sequential drivers of growth for Joenja, supporting our ambition to build a broader immunology franchise and positioning Joenja for potential blockbuster status. With that, I will now turn over to Anurag.
Speaker #1: With that, I will now turn it over to Anurag.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Laverne. I'll start by reviewing the science supporting Lennialism's potential beyond APDS and the scientific foundation supporting our two Phase 2 programs. Let's begin by reviewing the relevant biology, where PI3K delta is a central immune signaling molecule. Specifically, it regulates lymphocyte activation, proliferation, differentiation, trafficking, and survival via the AKT, mTOR, and FOXO pathways.
Anurag Relan: Thank you, LaVerne. I'll start by reviewing the science supporting leniolisib's potential beyond APDS and the scientific foundation supporting our two phase II programs. Let's begin by reviewing the relevant biology where PI3K delta is a central immune signaling molecule. Specifically, it regulates lymphocyte activation, proliferation, differentiation, trafficking, and survival via the AKT, mTOR, and FOXO pathways. Consequently, imbalance in the pathway drives immune dysregulation, which can be clinically manifest as lymphoproliferation, autoimmunity, and inflammatory and organ disease, specifically in the lung, liver, and the GI tract. This mechanistic understanding forms the scientific rationale for Joenja or leniolisib in APDS and our development programs in more prevalent PIDs. Before turning to these broader patient populations currently under investigation, it's worth reviewing the clinical foundation we've already established in APDS with PI3K delta inhibition using leniolisib.
Anurag Relan: Thank you, LaVerne. I'll start by reviewing the science supporting leniolisib's potential beyond APDS and the scientific foundation supporting our two phase II programs. Let's begin by reviewing the relevant biology where PI3K delta is a central immune signaling molecule. Specifically, it regulates lymphocyte activation, proliferation, differentiation, trafficking, and survival via the AKT, mTOR, and FOXO pathways. Consequently, imbalance in the pathway drives immune dysregulation, which can be clinically manifest as lymphoproliferation, autoimmunity, and inflammatory and organ disease, specifically in the lung, liver, and the GI tract. This mechanistic understanding forms the scientific rationale for Joenja or leniolisib in APDS and our development programs in more prevalent PIDs. Before turning to these broader patient populations currently under investigation, it's worth reviewing the clinical foundation we've already established in APDS with PI3K delta inhibition using leniolisib.
Speaker #2: Consequently, imbalance in the pathway drives immune dysregulation, which can be clinically manifest as lymphoproliferation, autoimmunity, and inflammatory and organ disease, specifically in the lung, liver, and GI tract.
Speaker #2: This mechanistic understanding forms the scientific rationale for Joenja, or leniolisib, in APDS and our development programs in more prevalent PIDs. Before turning to these broader patient populations currently under investigation, it's worth reviewing the clinical foundation we've already established in APDS with PI3K delta inhibition using leniolisib.
Speaker #2: Lennialism has demonstrated consistent and durable reductions in lymph node and spleen volume, showing sustained benefits with up to seven years of therapy in an open-label extension follow-up.
Anurag Relan: leniolisib has demonstrated consistent and durable reductions in lymph node and spleen volume, showing sustained benefits with up to 7 years of therapy in an open-label extension follow-up relevant to other PIDs. The safety profile is also well-established. Joenja has truly delivered life-changing benefits for patients, including fewer infections and hospitalizations, and a substantial reduction in treatment burden. What we have achieved in APDS gives us confidence in the potential for leniolisib to deliver the same meaningful benefits via PI3K delta inhibition to many more primary immune deficiency patients with immune dysregulation. Other genetically defined PIDs, as well as CVID with immune dysregulation, have a similar underlying PI3K delta-driven biology. Because of this PI3K delta involvement, these patients share many of the same clinical manifestations I just mentioned: lymphoproliferation, autoimmunity, GI disease, and lung disease.
Anurag Relan: leniolisib has demonstrated consistent and durable reductions in lymph node and spleen volume, showing sustained benefits with up to 7 years of therapy in an open-label extension follow-up relevant to other PIDs. The safety profile is also well-established. Joenja has truly delivered life-changing benefits for patients, including fewer infections and hospitalizations, and a substantial reduction in treatment burden. What we have achieved in APDS gives us confidence in the potential for leniolisib to deliver the same meaningful benefits via PI3K delta inhibition to many more primary immune deficiency patients with immune dysregulation. Other genetically defined PIDs, as well as CVID with immune dysregulation, have a similar underlying PI3K delta-driven biology. Because of this PI3K delta involvement, these patients share many of the same clinical manifestations I just mentioned: lymphoproliferation, autoimmunity, GI disease, and lung disease.
Speaker #2: Relevant to other PIDs, the safety profile is also well established. Joinja has truly delivered life-changing benefits for patients, including fewer infections and hospitalizations, and a substantial reduction in treatment burden.
Speaker #2: What we have achieved in APDS gives us confidence in the potential for Lennialism to deliver the same meaningful benefits, via PI3K delta inhibition, to many more primary immune deficiency patients with immune dysregulation.
Speaker #2: Other genetically defined PIDs, as well as CVID with immune dysregulation, have a similar underlying PI3K delta-driven biology. Because of this PI3K delta involvement, these patients share many of the same clinical manifestations I just mentioned.
Speaker #2: Lymphoproliferation, autoimmunity, GI disease, and lung disease. In addition to the mechanistic basis and our APDS experience, as we presented at the CIS conference in May, we have seen encouraging results in a small cohort of CVID patients who were treated in an expanded access program.
Anurag Relan: In addition to the mechanistic basis and our APDS experience, as we presented at the CIS conference in May, we have seen encouraging results in a small cohort of CVID patients who were treated in an expanded access program. In this clinician-reported experience, the breadth and consistency of improvement across cytopenias, lymphoproliferation, and end organ disease, provides a compelling early signal. Our two phase II studies are designed to determine whether the same targeted approach can benefit a broader patient population and significantly expand the addressable market. Both phase II studies are now fully enrolled, with top-line results expected in Q4. The CVID study includes 20 patients and is being conducted across multiple centers. The second study is a 12-patient basket study at the NIH involving genetically defined PIDs associated with immune dysregulation. These studies are designed to answer two fundamental questions.
Anurag Relan: In addition to the mechanistic basis and our APDS experience, as we presented at the CIS conference in May, we have seen encouraging results in a small cohort of CVID patients who were treated in an expanded access program. In this clinician-reported experience, the breadth and consistency of improvement across cytopenias, lymphoproliferation, and end organ disease, provides a compelling early signal. Our two phase II studies are designed to determine whether the same targeted approach can benefit a broader patient population and significantly expand the addressable market. Both phase II studies are now fully enrolled, with top-line results expected in Q4. The CVID study includes 20 patients and is being conducted across multiple centers. The second study is a 12-patient basket study at the NIH involving genetically defined PIDs associated with immune dysregulation. These studies are designed to answer two fundamental questions.
Speaker #2: In this clinician-reported experience, the breadth and consistency of improvement across cytopenias, lymphoproliferation, and end-organ disease provides a compelling early signal. Our two Phase 2 studies are designed to determine whether the same targeted approach can benefit a broader patient population and significantly expand the addressable market.
Speaker #2: Both Phase 2 studies are now fully enrolled, with top-line results expected in the fourth quarter. The CVID study includes 20 patients and is being conducted across multiple centers.
Speaker #2: The second study is a 12-patient basket study at the NIH involving genetically defined PIDs associated with immune dysregulation. These studies are designed to answer two fundamental questions.
Speaker #2: Can Lennialism produce clinically meaningful improvements across the key manifestations of immune dysregulation, and which dose regimen provides the appropriate balance of clinical activity, safety, and pathway modulation to support further development?
Anurag Relan: Can leniolisib produce clinically meaningful improvements across the key manifestations of immune dysregulation? Which dose regimen provides the appropriate balance of clinical activity, safety, and pathway modulation to support further development? To answer these questions, we are evaluating lymph node and spleen size, blood cell counts, liver and lung involvement, as well as patient and clinician-reported outcomes and key biomarkers, with the endpoints in these two studies strategically very similar to those in our APDS clinical program. Improvement across these measures would establish proof of concept and guide the next stage of development, including a registrational trial endpoint in these substantially larger patient populations. Given that the PI3K delta pathway is seen as a shared driver of immune dysregulation, we currently anticipate conducting a single registrational phase III trial in the broader CVID indication, incorporating patient populations from both studies.
Anurag Relan: Can leniolisib produce clinically meaningful improvements across the key manifestations of immune dysregulation? Which dose regimen provides the appropriate balance of clinical activity, safety, and pathway modulation to support further development? To answer these questions, we are evaluating lymph node and spleen size, blood cell counts, liver and lung involvement, as well as patient and clinician-reported outcomes and key biomarkers, with the endpoints in these two studies strategically very similar to those in our APDS clinical program. Improvement across these measures would establish proof of concept and guide the next stage of development, including a registrational trial endpoint in these substantially larger patient populations. Given that the PI3K delta pathway is seen as a shared driver of immune dysregulation, we currently anticipate conducting a single registrational phase III trial in the broader CVID indication, incorporating patient populations from both studies.
Speaker #2: To answer these questions, we are evaluating lymph node and spleen size, blood cell counts, liver and lung involvement, as well as patient- and clinician-reported outcomes and key biomarkers.
Speaker #2: With the endpoints in these two studies being strategically very similar to those in our APDS clinical program, improvement across these measures would establish proof of concept and guide the next stage of development, including a registrational trial endpoint.
Speaker #2: In these substantially larger patient populations, given that the PI3K delta pathway is seen as a shared driver of immune dysregulation, we currently anticipate conducting a single, registrational Phase 3 trial in the broader CVID indication, incorporating patient populations from both studies.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to review our financial results.
Anurag Relan: With that, I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to review our financial results.
Anurag Relan: With that, I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to review our financial results.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Anurag. I will now cover our Q2 and H1 2026 results, along with our updated full-year outlook. Q2 revenue was $90.2 million, down 3% year on year.
Kenneth Lynard: Thank you, Anurag. I will now cover our Q2 and H1 2026 results, along with our updated full-year outlook. Q2 revenue was $90.2 million, down 3% year on year. RUCONEST declined, as you heard earlier, by 10% versus Q2 of last year. Joenja increased 40% year on year. Our reported operating profit was positive in the quarter, despite lower revenues and incremental investments of nearly $9 million compared with the same quarter last year. Adjusted operating profit was also positive and declined by $5 million year on year, primarily impacted by the decrease in revenues and the higher R&D investments.
Kenneth Lynard: Thank you, Anurag. I will now cover our Q2 and H1 2026 results, along with our updated full-year outlook. Q2 revenue was $90.2 million, down 3% year on year. RUCONEST declined, as you heard earlier, by 10% versus Q2 of last year. Joenja increased 40% year on year. Our reported operating profit was positive in the quarter, despite lower revenues and incremental investments of nearly $9 million compared with the same quarter last year. Adjusted operating profit was also positive and declined by $5 million year on year, primarily impacted by the decrease in revenues and the higher R&D investments.
Speaker #3: Reconaissance declined, as you heard earlier, by 10% versus Q2 of last year, and Joinja increased 40% year on year. Our reported operating profit was positive in the quarter, despite lower revenues and incremental investments of nearly €9 million compared with the same quarter last year.
Speaker #3: Adjusted operating profit was also positive and declined by €5 million year-on-year, primarily impacted by the decrease in revenues and higher R&D investments.
Speaker #3: It is important to note that the adjusted Q2 2025 figure excludes $2.1 million of non-recurring Ableva acquisition-related costs, and the adjusted Q2 2026 result excludes $6.5 million of non-recurring items, comprising $4.9 million related to the impairment of manufacturing inventory and $1.7 million associated with the production support site in Évry, France, in Q4 2026.
Kenneth Lynard: It is important to note that the adjusted Q2 2025 figure excludes $2.1 million of non-recurring Abliva acquisition-related costs, and the adjusted Q2 2026 result excludes $6.5 million of non-recurring items, comprising $4.9 million related to the impairment of manufacturing inventory and $1.7 million associated with the planned closure of our production support site in Évry, in France, in Q4 2026. Operating cash flow for the quarter was an outflow of $9.7 million, primarily driven by changes in net working capital, including a strategic inventory build to further strengthen supply security as well as operating performance. As a result, cash and marketable securities at quarter end were $159.5 million, a decrease of $12.3 million compared with the end of Q1 2026. Looking now at our performance for H1 2026, the trends we saw in Q2 are also reflected in our year-to-date results.
Kenneth Lynard: It is important to note that the adjusted Q2 2025 figure excludes $2.1 million of non-recurring Abliva acquisition-related costs, and the adjusted Q2 2026 result excludes $6.5 million of non-recurring items, comprising $4.9 million related to the impairment of manufacturing inventory and $1.7 million associated with the planned closure of our production support site in Évry, in France, in Q4 2026. Operating cash flow for the quarter was an outflow of $9.7 million, primarily driven by changes in net working capital, including a strategic inventory build to further strengthen supply security as well as operating performance. As a result, cash and marketable securities at quarter end were $159.5 million, a decrease of $12.3 million compared with the end of Q1 2026. Looking now at our performance for H1 2026, the trends we saw in Q2 are also reflected in our year-to-date results.
Speaker #3: Operating cash flow for the quarter was an outflow of $9.7 million, primarily driven by changes in net working capital, including a strategic inventory build to further strengthen supply security as well as operating performance.
Speaker #3: As a result, cash and marketable securities at quarter end were $159.5 million, a decrease of $12.3 million compared with the end of Q1 2026.
Speaker #3: Looking now at our performance for the first half of 2026, the trends we saw in the second quarter are also reflected in our year-to-date results.
Speaker #3: Revenue for the first six months was €162.7 million, representing a 6% decline compared with the first half of 2026. For Reconnaissance, revenue was 12% lower than the prior year period, and Joenja continued to deliver strong growth, with revenue increasing 37% year on year.
Kenneth Lynard: Revenue for H1 was $162.7 million, representing a 6% decline compared with H1 2026. For RUCONEST, revenue was 12% lower than the prior year period, and Joenja continued to deliver strong growth, with revenue increasing 37% year-on-year. Reported operating profit was impacted by a decrease in revenue, by RUCONEST demand and inventory de-stocking at specialty pharmacy level predominantly in Q1 2026, and the manufacturing-related impairment of inventories in H1 2026. Adjusted operating profit was EUR 10.7 million, lower than in H1 2025. For comparability, the adjusted H1 2025 result excludes EUR 9.9 million of non-recurring Abliva acquisition-related costs, while the adjusted H1 2026 result excludes EUR 6.5 million, comprising of the EUR 4.9 million impairment of manufacturing inventory and EUR 1.7 million provision related to the site closure in France.
Kenneth Lynard: Revenue for H1 was $162.7 million, representing a 6% decline compared with H1 2026. For RUCONEST, revenue was 12% lower than the prior year period, and Joenja continued to deliver strong growth, with revenue increasing 37% year-on-year. Reported operating profit was impacted by a decrease in revenue, by RUCONEST demand and inventory de-stocking at specialty pharmacy level predominantly in Q1 2026, and the manufacturing-related impairment of inventories in H1 2026. Adjusted operating profit was EUR 10.7 million, lower than in H1 2025. For comparability, the adjusted H1 2025 result excludes EUR 9.9 million of non-recurring Abliva acquisition-related costs, while the adjusted H1 2026 result excludes EUR 6.5 million, comprising of the EUR 4.9 million impairment of manufacturing inventory and EUR 1.7 million provision related to the site closure in France.
Speaker #3: Reported operating profit was impacted by a decrease in revenue, impacted by Reconnaissance demand and inventory destocking at the specialty pharmacy level, predominantly in Q1 2026, and the manufacturing-related impairment of inventories in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #3: Adjusted operating profit was €10.7 million lower than in the first half of 2025. For comparability, the adjusted H1 2025 result excludes €9.9 million of non-recurring Ableva acquisition-related costs, while the adjusted H1 2026 result excludes €6.5 million, comprising the €4.9 million impairment of manufacturing inventory and a €1.7 million provision related to the site closure in France.
Speaker #3: Compared with the first half of last year, we increased investments in R&D by €13 million. We maintained strong cost discipline—on an adjusted basis, operating expenses increased by just 1% versus the first half of 2025, despite these incremental R&D investments.
Kenneth Lynard: Compared with H1 last year, we increased investments in R&D by EUR 13 million. We maintained strong cost discipline. On an adjusted basis, operating expenses increased by just 1% versus H1 2025, despite these incremental R&D investments. Finally, operating cash flow for H1 was an outflow of EUR 7.7 million, reflecting the combined effect of net working capital changes, primarily the strategic inventory build mentioned, and lower revenues. Turning now to our outlook for the full year. We have revised our 2026 revenue guidance to $375 to 395 million, a reduction of $30 million from our previous outlook, reflecting the RUCONEST stabilization and return to growth and strong Joenja growth, as discussed earlier. This represents expected growth of approximately 0% to 5% versus 2025.
Kenneth Lynard: Compared with H1 last year, we increased investments in R&D by EUR 13 million. We maintained strong cost discipline. On an adjusted basis, operating expenses increased by just 1% versus H1 2025, despite these incremental R&D investments. Finally, operating cash flow for H1 was an outflow of EUR 7.7 million, reflecting the combined effect of net working capital changes, primarily the strategic inventory build mentioned, and lower revenues. Turning now to our outlook for the full year. We have revised our 2026 revenue guidance to $375 to 395 million, a reduction of $30 million from our previous outlook, reflecting the RUCONEST stabilization and return to growth and strong Joenja growth, as discussed earlier. This represents expected growth of approximately 0% to 5% versus 2025.
Speaker #3: Finally, operating cash flow for the first half was an outflow of €7.7 million, reflecting the combined effect of net working capital changes—primarily the strategic inventory build mentioned—and lower revenues.
Speaker #3: Turning now to our outlook for the full year, we have revised our 2026 revenue guidance to $375 to $395 million, a reduction of $30 million from our previous outlook. This reflects the Reconnaissance stabilization and return to growth, and strong Joenja growth, as discussed earlier.
Speaker #3: This represents expected growth of approximately 0% to 5% versus 2025. As Fabriz mentioned earlier, nearly a year after the launch of the first oral on-demand HAE treatment, we have a much clearer understanding of the evolving market dynamics, giving us greater confidence in both our forecasting and our revised outlook.
Kenneth Lynard: As Fabrice mentioned earlier, nearly a year after the launch of the first oral on-demand HAE treatment, we have much clearer understanding of the evolving market dynamics, giving us greater confidence in both our forecasting and our revised outlook. At the midpoint of our guidance range, RUCONEST US revenue is expected to decline approximately 3% for the full year. For Joenja, we continue to expect annual revenue growth in the high 30% as compared to 29% growth in 2025, with Germany, Japan, and the anticipated US pediatric label expansion contributing. We remain committed to disciplined capital allocation to efficiently balance investments in our pipeline, combined with a strong focus on operational efficiency, driving short and long-term value creation. Accordingly, we have reduced our full year operating expense guidance by EUR 15 million to EUR 315 to 320 million, representing growth of 1% to 3% versus 2025.
Kenneth Lynard: As Fabrice mentioned earlier, nearly a year after the launch of the first oral on-demand HAE treatment, we have much clearer understanding of the evolving market dynamics, giving us greater confidence in both our forecasting and our revised outlook. At the midpoint of our guidance range, RUCONEST US revenue is expected to decline approximately 3% for the full year. For Joenja, we continue to expect annual revenue growth in the high 30% as compared to 29% growth in 2025, with Germany, Japan, and the anticipated US pediatric label expansion contributing. We remain committed to disciplined capital allocation to efficiently balance investments in our pipeline, combined with a strong focus on operational efficiency, driving short and long-term value creation. Accordingly, we have reduced our full year operating expense guidance by EUR 15 million to EUR 315 to 320 million, representing growth of 1% to 3% versus 2025.
Speaker #3: At the midpoint of our guidance range, Reconnaissance U.S. revenue is expected to decline approximately 3% for the full year. For Joinja, we continue to expect annual revenue growth in the high 30% range, as compared to 29% growth in 2025, with Germany, Japan, and the anticipated U.S. pediatric label expansion contributing.
Speaker #3: We remain committed to disciplined capital allocation, efficiently balancing investments in our pipeline with a strong focus on operational efficiency, driving both short- and long-term value creation.
Speaker #3: Accordingly, we have reduced our full-year operating expense guidance by $15 million to $315 to $320 million, representing growth of 1% to 3% versus 2025.
Speaker #3: This includes more than €40 million of incremental R&D investment to advance our pipeline, and an approximately €9 million benefit from the 20% structural reduction in G&A headcount that we announced last year in October.
Kenneth Lynard: This includes more than EUR 40 million of incremental R&D investment to advance our pipeline and the approximate EUR 9 million benefit from the 20% structural reduction in G&A headcount that we announced last year in October. Marketing and sales expenditure are expected to be broadly stable. For the full year, we expect cost of goods sold, including the EUR 4.9 million manufacturing inventory impairment recorded in Q2, to be approximately 11% of revenue, corresponding to a gross margin of around 89%. Finally, we remain confident that our existing cash resources, together with future operating cash flows, are sufficient to fund our current development pipeline and all associated pre-launch activities. With that, I'll hand the call back to Fabrice.
Kenneth Lynard: This includes more than EUR 40 million of incremental R&D investment to advance our pipeline and the approximate EUR 9 million benefit from the 20% structural reduction in G&A headcount that we announced last year in October. Marketing and sales expenditure are expected to be broadly stable. For the full year, we expect cost of goods sold, including the EUR 4.9 million manufacturing inventory impairment recorded in Q2, to be approximately 11% of revenue, corresponding to a gross margin of around 89%. Finally, we remain confident that our existing cash resources, together with future operating cash flows, are sufficient to fund our current development pipeline and all associated pre-launch activities. With that, I'll hand the call back to Fabrice.
Speaker #3: Marketing and sales expenditure are expected to be broadly stable. For the full year, we expect cost of goods sold, including the €4.9 million manufacturing inventory impairment recorded in the second quarter, to be approximately 11% of revenue, corresponding to a gross margin of around 89%.
Speaker #3: Finally, we remain confident that our existing cash resources, together with future operating cash flows, are sufficient to fund our current development pipeline and all associated pre-launch activities.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll hand the call back to Fabriz.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Kenneth. Let me close by putting our updated outlook in context. While we have revised our revenue expectations for 2026, the fundamentals of our business remain solid, and we have several important growth opportunities and clinical milestones ahead.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Kenneth. Let me close by putting our updated outlook in context. While we have revised our revenue expectations for 2026, the fundamentals of our business remain solid, and we have several important growth opportunities and clinical milestones ahead. We continue to believe that RUCONEST will remain a cornerstone on-demand treatment for high-burden HAE patients and a durable cash engine over the long term. This is supported by the performance we began to see this quarter, specifically the limited erosion of the active patient base, the renewed strength in patient enrollments, and the continued adoption by new prescribers. Joenja, our key growth driver, is maintaining strong sales momentum and remains early in its commercial life cycle, with significant near-term commercial opportunities ahead through geographic expansion and pediatric label expansion. We are also operating the company with much greater discipline.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Kenneth. Let me close by putting our updated outlook in context. While we have revised our revenue expectations for 2026, the fundamentals of our business remain solid, and we have several important growth opportunities and clinical milestones ahead. We continue to believe that RUCONEST will remain a cornerstone on-demand treatment for high-burden HAE patients and a durable cash engine over the long term. This is supported by the performance we began to see this quarter, specifically the limited erosion of the active patient base, the renewed strength in patient enrollments, and the continued adoption by new prescribers. Joenja, our key growth driver, is maintaining strong sales momentum and remains early in its commercial life cycle, with significant near-term commercial opportunities ahead through geographic expansion and pediatric label expansion. We are also operating the company with much greater discipline.
Speaker #2: We continue to believe that RUCONEST will remain a cornerstone on-demand treatment for high-burden HAE patients and a durable cash engine over the long term.
Speaker #2: This is supported by the performance we began to see this quarter, specifically the limited erosion of the active patient base, the renewed strength in patient enrollments, and the continued adoption by new prescribers.
Speaker #2: Joenja, our key growth driver, is maintaining strong sales momentum and remains early in its commercial lifecycle. We see significant near-term commercial opportunities ahead through geographic expansion and pediatric label expansion.
Speaker #2: We are also operating the company with much greater discipline. We have reduced our full-year operating expense guidance while continuing to invest in our most important commercial and clinical growth opportunities.
Fabrice Chouraqui: We have reduced our full-year operating expense guidance while continuing to invest in our most important commercial and clinical growth opportunities. We must continue to transform the organization and significantly increase our level of execution to fully capture the many opportunities in front of us. Looking ahead, we have a compelling series of near-term clinical catalysts. As you've seen, in Q4 2026
Fabrice Chouraqui: We have reduced our full-year operating expense guidance while continuing to invest in our most important commercial and clinical growth opportunities. We must continue to transform the organization and significantly increase our level of execution to fully capture the many opportunities in front of us. Looking ahead, we have a compelling series of near-term clinical catalysts. As you've seen, in Q4 2026
Speaker #2: We must continue to transform the organization and significantly increase our level of execution to fully capture the many opportunities in front of us. Looking ahead, we have a compelling series of near-term clinical catalysts.
Speaker #2: As you've seen, in the fourth quarter of 2026, we expect to report results from two Phase 2 studies evaluating lenolizib in broader primary immunodeficiency populations, including CVID.
Fabrice Chouraqui: We expect to report results from two phase II studies evaluating leniolisib in broader primary immunodeficiency populations, including CVID. Positive results could significantly expand the opportunity for Joenja and support its potential to become a blockbuster franchise. This will be followed in 2027 by the readout of the FALCON pivotal study of napazimone in patients with primary mitochondrial disease. Another program with the potential to materially increase Pharming scale. While we have rebased our near-term revenue outlook, we remain confident in the strength of our commercial foundations, the quality of our pipeline, and the multiple catalysts that can drive our next phase of growth. I believe this combination positions Pharming well to continue building a leading global rare disease company. Thank you. We'll now open the floor for questions. Operator?
Fabrice Chouraqui: We expect to report results from two phase II studies evaluating leniolisib in broader primary immunodeficiency populations, including CVID. Positive results could significantly expand the opportunity for Joenja and support its potential to become a blockbuster franchise. This will be followed in 2027 by the readout of the FALCON pivotal study of napazimone in patients with primary mitochondrial disease. Another program with the potential to materially increase Pharming scale. While we have rebased our near-term revenue outlook, we remain confident in the strength of our commercial foundations, the quality of our pipeline, and the multiple catalysts that can drive our next phase of growth. I believe this combination positions Pharming well to continue building a leading global rare disease company. Thank you. We'll now open the floor for questions. Operator?
Speaker #2: Positive results could significantly expand the opportunity for Joinja and support its potential to become a blockbuster franchise. This will be followed in 2027 by the readout of the Falcon pivotal study of Napazimone in patients with primary mitochondrial disease, another program with the potential to materially increase Pharming's scale.
Speaker #2: So, while we have rebased our near-term revenue outlook, we remain confident in the strength of our commercial foundations, the quality of our pipeline, and the multiple catalysts that can drive our next phase of growth.
Speaker #2: I believe this combination positions Pharming well to continue building a leading global rare disease company. Thank you. We will now open the floor for questions.
Speaker #2: Operator.
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Speaker #1: And our first question is going to come from Jeff Jones with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
Jeff Jones: Good afternoon, guys. Congrats on the strength of RUCONEST and the quarter. Could you perhaps provide some color around the commercial launch efforts for Joenja in the EU and how you're anticipating these to build? Maybe speak a little bit more to the magnitude of the opportunity as you expand country to country. For a second question, can you speak to assuming a positive outcome from the 2 PIDS trials, what that looks like and next steps moving ahead into that pivotal study? Thank you.
Jeff Jones: Good afternoon, guys. Congrats on the strength of RUCONEST and the quarter. Could you perhaps provide some color around the commercial launch efforts for Joenja in the EU and how you're anticipating these to build? Maybe speak a little bit more to the magnitude of the opportunity as you expand country to country. For a second question, can you speak to assuming a positive outcome from the 2 PIDS trials, what that looks like and next steps moving ahead into that pivotal study? Thank you.
Speaker #4: Good afternoon, guys. Congrats on the strength of Reconnaissance and the quarter. Could you perhaps provide some color around the commercial launch efforts for Joenja in the EU and how you're anticipating these to build, and maybe speak a little bit more to the magnitude of the opportunity as you expand country to country?
Speaker #4: And then for the second question, can you speak to assuming a positive outcome from the two PIDS trials? What that looks like, and the next steps moving ahead into that pivotal study.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jeff. I'll leave Lars to answer the first part of your question and Anurag for the second part.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Jeff. I'll ask LaVerne to answer the first part of your question and Henryk for the second part.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Jeff. I'll ask LaVerne to answer the first part of your question and Henryk for the second part.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, good afternoon. In terms of commercial launch preparation outside of the US for Joinja, we have made substantial progress in patient identification across our core eight markets.
Leverne Marsh: Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. Good morning, good afternoon. In terms of commercial launch preparation outside of the US for Joenja, we have made substantial progress in patient identification across our core eight markets. We've identified core eight markets that will be key for us to launch in the next couple of years. To date, we've identified about 387 potentially eligible APDS patients across these markets. We have launched in the United Kingdom, where we have gained some scale in our capability, both from a commercial execution perspective. Our market access capabilities has grown, which we've scaled into the German launch and are preparing for the launch in Japan. The UK launch is proceeding at pace, and we're making good progress. German launch is underway since 1 July, and we have made substantial progress in acquiring funded patients on therapy in Germany.
Leverne Marsh: Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. Good morning, good afternoon. In terms of commercial launch preparation outside of the US for Joenja, we have made substantial progress in patient identification across our core eight markets. We've identified core eight markets that will be key for us to launch in the next couple of years. To date, we've identified about 387 potentially eligible APDS patients across these markets. We have launched in the United Kingdom, where we have gained some scale in our capability, both from a commercial execution perspective. Our market access capabilities has grown, which we've scaled into the German launch and are preparing for the launch in Japan. The UK launch is proceeding at pace, and we're making good progress. German launch is underway since 1 July, and we have made substantial progress in acquiring funded patients on therapy in Germany.
Speaker #5: So we've identified eight core markets that will be key for us to launch in over the next couple of years. To date, we've identified approximately 387 potentially eligible APDS patients across these markets.
Speaker #5: We have launched in the United Kingdom where we have gained some scale in our capability both from a commercial execution perspective our market access capabilities has grown which we've scaled into the German launch and now preparing for preparing for the launch in in Japan.
Speaker #5: The UK launch is proceeding a pace and we're making good progress. German launch is underway since the 1st of July. And we have made substantial progress in acquiring funded patients on therapy in Germany.
Speaker #5: From a Japan perspective, we are in the final stages of securing our pricing and reimbursement following approval in the second quarter. And we look forward to launching Joinja in Japan during the August time frame.
Leverne Marsh: From a Japan perspective, we are in the final stages of securing our pricing and reimbursement following approval in Q2, and we look forward to launching Joenja in Japan during the August timeframe.
Leverne Marsh: From a Japan perspective, we are in the final stages of securing our pricing and reimbursement following approval in Q2, and we look forward to launching Joenja in Japan during the August timeframe.
Speaker #4: And Jeff, on your question—Jeff, on your question about the two Phase 2 studies—so again, we're expecting those results in the fourth quarter.
Anurag Relan: Jeff, on your question about the two phase II studies. Again, we're expecting those results in Q4. The studies, as I've reviewed today, they have very similar patient populations in terms of one being a group of patients that are genetically defined and the other are more clinically defined. However, they have similar clinical manifestations, and we see significant overlap in the enrolled population, especially from the first study into the broader CVID study, which again, is a patient population that's about 40 times the size of APDS. When thinking ahead now to what we can expect, once we have the results, we'll review those results. We're collecting a broad spectrum of endpoints to evaluate.
Anurag Relan: Jeff, on your question about the two phase II studies. Again, we're expecting those results in Q4. The studies, as I've reviewed today, they have very similar patient populations in terms of one being a group of patients that are genetically defined and the other are more clinically defined. However, they have similar clinical manifestations, and we see significant overlap in the enrolled population, especially from the first study into the broader CVID study, which again, is a patient population that's about 40 times the size of APDS. When thinking ahead now to what we can expect, once we have the results, we'll review those results. We're collecting a broad spectrum of endpoints to evaluate.
Speaker #4: The studies as I've reviewed today, you know, they they have very similar patient populations in terms of one being a a group of patients that are genetically defined and the other are more clinically defined.
Speaker #4: However, they have similar clinical manifestations and we see significant overlap in the enrolled population. Especially from the first study into the broader CVID study which again is a patient population that's about 40 times the size of APDS.
Speaker #4: So when thinking ahead now to what what we can expect, once we have the results, we'll review those results. We we're collecting a broad spectrum of endpoints to evaluate.
Speaker #4: We're also evaluating the dose regimen. And then we'll come up with a plan to review with FDAs starting with FDA but also with regulators across Europe as well as Japan to see what a registrational study could look like.
Anurag Relan: We're also evaluating the dose regimen, then we'll come up with a plan to review with FDA, starting with FDA, but also with regulators across Europe as well as Japan to see what a registrational study could look like. We do anticipate right now, again, pending the results of those two studies, that we would do a combined CVID study. This would likely be a randomized control study similar to what we performed in APDS. I think we have a good blueprint based on the work that we've done in APDS, and again, now anxiously awaiting those final results.
Anurag Relan: We're also evaluating the dose regimen, then we'll come up with a plan to review with FDA, starting with FDA, but also with regulators across Europe as well as Japan to see what a registrational study could look like. We do anticipate right now, again, pending the results of those two studies, that we would do a combined CVID study. This would likely be a randomized control study similar to what we performed in APDS. I think we have a good blueprint based on the work that we've done in APDS, and again, now anxiously awaiting those final results.
Speaker #4: We do anticipate right now again pending the results of those two studies that we would do a combined CVID study and this would likely be a randomized controlled study similar to what we performed in APDS.
Speaker #4: So I think we have a good blueprint based on the work that we've done in APDS and again now anxiously awaiting those final results.
Speaker #4: Thank you, guys.
Jeff Jones: Thank you, guys.
Jeff Jones: Thank you, guys.
Operator: Thank you. The next question will come from Alana Shamsie with Jefferies. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question will come from Alana Shamsie with Jefferies. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And the next question will come from Alana Shamsy with Jefferies. Your line is open.
Alana Shamsie: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly, on RUCONEST, enrollments appear to have recovered to around pre-competitor launch levels. I was wondering if you could give a sense of what you've seen so far the first month of this quarter and whether the trend has continued. Secondly, I just wanted to ask on Joenja. There appears to be roughly, I think, 30 identified pediatric patients in the US who could be eligible under the expanded dosing schedule if approved. How do you think we should think about the pace of converting those patients onto reimbursed therapy following that approval? Thank you.
Alana Shamsie: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly, on RUCONEST, enrollments appear to have recovered to around pre-competitor launch levels. I was wondering if you could give a sense of what you've seen so far the first month of this quarter and whether the trend has continued. Secondly, I just wanted to ask on Joenja. There appears to be roughly, I think, 30 identified pediatric patients in the US who could be eligible under the expanded dosing schedule if approved. How do you think we should think about the pace of converting those patients onto reimbursed therapy following that approval? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly, on Reconnaissance enrollments appear to have recovered to around pre-competitor launch levels. I was wondering if you could give a sense on what of what you've seen so far the first month of this quarter and whether the trend has continued.
Speaker #6: And then secondly, I just wanted to ask on Joinja there appears to be roughly I think 30 identified pediatric patients in the US who could be eligible under the expanded dosing schedule if approved.
Speaker #6: How how do you think we should take think about the pace of converting those patients onto reimbursed therapy following that approval? Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Jeff.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Liver?
Fabrice Chouraqui: Liver?
Leverne Marsh: On RUCONEST enrollments, Alana, thank you for the question. You're 100% right. We've seen certainly Q2 with 84 enrollments getting fairly close to what we had in Q2 2025, which neared about 90 new enrollments. We are seeing consistency in the momentum into the third quarter. Now, in the HAE market overall, there is some seasonality. If you look back at new enrollments in the previous year or the year before that, you do see some changes in the rate of new enrollments as we go into the third quarter. As I said, it's quite consistent with what we're experiencing deep into July so far. Importantly, we continue to add new prescribers. What we're seeing in these new enrollments is this entrenchment of the RUCONEST position in high-burden HAE patients.
Leverne Marsh: On RUCONEST enrollments, Alana, thank you for the question. You're 100% right. We've seen certainly Q2 with 84 enrollments getting fairly close to what we had in Q2 2025, which neared about 90 new enrollments. We are seeing consistency in the momentum into the third quarter. Now, in the HAE market overall, there is some seasonality. If you look back at new enrollments in the previous year or the year before that, you do see some changes in the rate of new enrollments as we go into the third quarter. As I said, it's quite consistent with what we're experiencing deep into July so far. Importantly, we continue to add new prescribers. What we're seeing in these new enrollments is this entrenchment of the RUCONEST position in high-burden HAE patients.
Speaker #5: On Reconnaissance enrollments, Alana, thank you for the question. You're 100% right. We've seen Q2 with 84 enrollments, getting fairly close to what we had in Q2 2025, which neared about 90 new enrollments.
Speaker #5: We are seeing consistency in the momentum into the third quarter. Now, in the HAE market overall, there is some seasonality if you look back at new enrollments.
Speaker #5: In the previous year or the year before that, you do see some changes in the rate of new enrollments as we go into the third quarter.
Speaker #5: But as I said, it's quite consistent with what we're experiencing deep into July so far. Importantly, we continue to add new prescribers and what we're seeing in these new enrollments is this entrenchment of the Reconnaissance position in high burden HAE patients.
Speaker #5: These are typically either HAE normal patients where the burden of disease is quite high or patients with more frequent and more severe attacks. And that's where we anticipate having a really durable position even four quarters after competitor launch to continue into into the third quarter.
Leverne Marsh: These are typically either HAE normal patients, where the burden of disease is quite high, or patients with more frequent and more severe attacks. That's where we anticipate having a really durable position, even four quarters after competitor launch to continue into the third quarter.
Leverne Marsh: These are typically either HAE normal patients, where the burden of disease is quite high, or patients with more frequent and more severe attacks. That's where we anticipate having a really durable position, even four quarters after competitor launch to continue into the third quarter.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Joangel?
Fabrice Chouraqui: Joangel?
Speaker #4: Joinja.
Speaker #5: From a conversion perspective, as I mentioned before, we have a substantial number of patients identified in these core markets. Including certainly the UK, Germany relaunching now and Japan launch coming.
Leverne Marsh: From a conversion perspective, as I mentioned before, we have a substantial number of patients identified in these core markets, including certainly the UK, Germany we're launching now, and Japan launch coming. We are assuming a fairly similar conversion rate that we've seen in the US as we, A, secure reimbursement and the commercial teams execute against our plan in the various centers, both in Germany and upcoming in Japan. Part of that will be conversion of patients that are on our EAP programs in some markets, but also pretty clear identification for us in where those patients are sitting in these respective markets and what we need to do to convert them as soon as we have reimbursement.
Leverne Marsh: From a conversion perspective, as I mentioned before, we have a substantial number of patients identified in these core markets, including certainly the UK, Germany we're launching now, and Japan launch coming. We are assuming a fairly similar conversion rate that we've seen in the US as we, A, secure reimbursement and the commercial teams execute against our plan in the various centers, both in Germany and upcoming in Japan. Part of that will be conversion of patients that are on our EAP programs in some markets, but also pretty clear identification for us in where those patients are sitting in these respective markets and what we need to do to convert them as soon as we have reimbursement.
Speaker #5: We are assuming a fairly similar conversion rate that we've seen in the US. As we a secure reimbursement and the commercial teams execute against our plan in the various centers both in in Germany and upcoming in Japan.
Speaker #5: Part of that will be the conversion of patients who are on our EAP programs in some markets, but also a pretty clear identification for us of where those patients are sitting in these respective markets, and what we need to do to convert them as soon as we have reimbursement.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Specifically for US pediatric?
Speaker #4: And specifically for US pediatric?
Fabrice Chouraqui: Specifically for US pediatric?
Speaker #5: For US pediatrics similarly what we have today is 60 identified patients between between four and 11 years old. As Anurag mentioned earlier, the submission is divided into the higher dose and the lower dose.
Leverne Marsh: For US pediatrics, similarly, what we have today is 60 identified patients between 4 and 11 years old. As Anurag mentioned earlier, the submission is divided into the higher dose and the lower dose. What we see in the split of those identified patients, it's about 50/50. 50 patients in the higher dose category, 50% rather, and 50% in the lower dose category. Again, we are assuming a similar uptake what we've seen with the adult population 12 and above, converting first those EAP patients in the first few months, continuing to convert the remaining patients that we've identified in the centers that we have.
Leverne Marsh: For US pediatrics, similarly, what we have today is 60 identified patients between 4 and 11 years old. As Anurag mentioned earlier, the submission is divided into the higher dose and the lower dose. What we see in the split of those identified patients, it's about 50/50. 50 patients in the higher dose category, 50% rather, and 50% in the lower dose category. Again, we are assuming a similar uptake what we've seen with the adult population 12 and above, converting first those EAP patients in the first few months, continuing to convert the remaining patients that we've identified in the centers that we have.
Speaker #5: And what we see in the split of those identified patients, it's about 50/50—so 50% in the higher dose category and 50% in the lower dose category.
Speaker #5: Again, we are assuming a similar uptake to what we've seen with the adult population, 12 and above—converting first those EAP patients in the first few months, and then continuing to convert the remaining patients that we've identified in the centers that we have.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Elena.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Elena.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Elena.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is going to come from Whitney Ijem with Canaccord. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is going to come from Whitney Ijem with Canaccord. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And our next question is going to come from Whitney. Hi, Jim. With Can Accord. Your line is open.
Speaker #7: Hi, all. My congrats on the quarter. Just to go back to the 84 new Reconnaissance patients, can you talk a little bit more about those patients in terms of what they look like?
Whitney Ijem: Hi, all. My congrats on the quarter. Just to go back to the 84 new RUCONEST patients, can you talk a little bit more about those patients in terms of what they look like? Severity, attack rate, is that kind of consistent with how the RUCONEST patient has looked historically? Then, are they all new to therapy or some returning back from maybe trying something else?
Whitney Ijem: Hi, all. My congrats on the quarter. Just to go back to the 84 new RUCONEST patients, can you talk a little bit more about those patients in terms of what they look like? Severity, attack rate, is that kind of consistent with how the RUCONEST patient has looked historically? Then, are they all new to therapy or some returning back from maybe trying something else?
Speaker #7: Severity, attack rate, is that kind of consistent with how kind of the Reconnaissance patient has looked historically? And and then are they all new to therapy or some returning back from maybe trying something else?
Speaker #4: Thank you, Whitney. Liver.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Whitney. Liver?
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Whitney. Liver?
Speaker #5: Thanks, Whitney. So the 84 new enrollments—as I said before—these are the patient population for us in terms of new enrollments, which have evolved over time, right?
Leverne Marsh: Thanks, Whitney. The 84 new enrollments, as I said before, the patient population for us in terms of new enrollments have evolved over time, right? Now we're seeing a very clear trend emerging for these high-burden patients that have high-frequency attacks, more severe attacks, patients who are more worried about high-risk attack locations like laryngeal attacks, GI attacks. These are just the new enrollments. The new enrollment number does not include restarts, as you've identified, i.e., patients who are returning back to therapy. Pure new enrollments, unique new for the first time on RUCONEST.
Leverne Marsh: Thanks, Whitney. The 84 new enrollments, as I said before, the patient population for us in terms of new enrollments have evolved over time, right? Now we're seeing a very clear trend emerging for these high-burden patients that have high-frequency attacks, more severe attacks, patients who are more worried about high-risk attack locations like laryngeal attacks, GI attacks. These are just the new enrollments. The new enrollment number does not include restarts, as you've identified, i.e., patients who are returning back to therapy. Pure new enrollments, unique new for the first time on RUCONEST.
Speaker #5: But now we're seeing a very, very clear trend emerging for these high-burden patients that have high-frequency attacks, more severe attacks, and patients who are more worried about high-risk attack locations like laryngeal attacks, GI attacks. And these are just the new enrollments.
Speaker #5: So the new enrollment number does not include restarts as you've identified, i.e. patients who are returning back to therapy. So pure new enrollments unique new for the first time on on Reconnaissance.
Whitney Ijem: Got it. That's really helpful. Moving over to CVID and PIDs. In terms of the larger patient number, clearly, very large TAM assuming success there. I guess, can you talk about any efforts in terms of patient identification or just as we think about the diagnosis rate in those given they are larger but not genetic? I guess how well-characterized are those patients and under the care of physicians currently, in terms of being able to access them commercially?
Whitney Ijem: Got it. That's really helpful. Moving over to CVID and PIDs. In terms of the larger patient number, clearly, very large TAM assuming success there. I guess, can you talk about any efforts in terms of patient identification or just as we think about the diagnosis rate in those given they are larger but not genetic? I guess how well-characterized are those patients and under the care of physicians currently, in terms of being able to access them commercially?
Speaker #7: Got it. That's that's really helpful. And then moving over to CVID and and PIDs. In terms of the larger patient number, clearly, you know, very large TAM assuming success there, I guess can you talk about any efforts in terms of patient identification or just as we think about kind of the diagnosis rate in those given they are larger but not genetic?
Speaker #7: I guess how how well characterized are those patients and kind of under the care of physicians currently in terms of being able to access them commercially?
Speaker #4: Sure. Hi, Whitney. So this group of patients, these CVID patients is largely already identified and that's very different from what we what we experience with APDS.
Anurag Relan: Sure. Hi, Whitney. This group of patients, these CVID patients, is largely already identified, and that's very different from what we experienced with APDS. With APDS, it was a newly defined disease just in the last 15 years. It required genetic testing, and it required a considerable effort in terms of educating doctors also on the importance of genetic testing. CVID, however, is clinically diagnosed, and these group of patients that we're talking about are, again, already diagnosed. They're almost always on immune globulin replacement therapy because that's part of one of the key manifestations is that they have low IgG levels. Therefore, really it's a different, let's say, mechanics in terms of diagnosis versus what we've seen with APDS.
Anurag Relan: Sure. Hi, Whitney. This group of patients, these CVID patients, is largely already identified, and that's very different from what we experienced with APDS. With APDS, it was a newly defined disease just in the last 15 years. It required genetic testing, and it required a considerable effort in terms of educating doctors also on the importance of genetic testing. CVID, however, is clinically diagnosed, and these group of patients that we're talking about are, again, already diagnosed. They're almost always on immune globulin replacement therapy because that's part of one of the key manifestations is that they have low IgG levels. Therefore, really it's a different, let's say, mechanics in terms of diagnosis versus what we've seen with APDS.
Speaker #4: With APDS, it was a newly defined disease. Just in the last 15 years, it required genetic testing. And and and it required a a considerable effort in terms of educating doctors also on the importance of genetic testing.
Speaker #4: CVID, however, is clinically diagnosed and these group of patients that we're talking about are again already diagnosed. They're almost always on immunoglobulin replacement therapy because that's part of the one of the key manifestations is that they have low IgG levels.
Speaker #4: And therefore really it's a different let's say mechanics in terms of diagnosis versus what we've seen with APDS.
Speaker #7: Very helpful. Thank you so much.
Whitney Ijem: Very helpful. Thank you so much.
Whitney Ijem: Very helpful. Thank you so much.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is going to come from Joe Pantginis with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is going to come from Joe Pantginis with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And the next question is going to come from Joe. Pantgenis with HC Wainwright. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: Hey everybody. Thanks for all the updates today. So two questions. First on Reconnaissance and then on Joenja. So with regard to the current commercial profile coming into the second half, it was mentioned in the prepared comments with the three factors.
Joe Pantginis: Hey, everybody. Thanks for all the updates today. Two questions. First on RUCONEST, on Joenja. With regard to the current commercial profile coming into H2, it was mentioned in the prepared comments, with the three factors. One of them was inventory normalization. I just wanted to know any anticipation for further optimization here or anything we can expect with regard to inventory and distribution going forward that might be relatively obvious to you?
Joe Pantginis: Hey, everybody. Thanks for all the updates today. Two questions. First on RUCONEST, on Joenja. With regard to the current commercial profile coming into H2, it was mentioned in the prepared comments, with the three factors. One of them was inventory normalization. I just wanted to know any anticipation for further optimization here or anything we can expect with regard to inventory and distribution going forward that might be relatively obvious to you?
Speaker #6: One of them was inventory normalization. So I just wanted to know any anticipation for further optimization here or anything we can expect with expect with regard to inventory and distribution going forward that might be relatively obvious to you.
Speaker #4: So good morning, Joe. This is Kenneth here. So we expect that we are in a year with a normal you know seasonality where we saw some inventory reduction in the first part of the year.
Kenneth Lynard: Good morning, Joe. This is Kenneth here. We expect that we are in a year with a normal seasonality where we saw some inventory reduction in the first part of the year, and there will be a normal cycle with a bit of inventory build also in the year to go, but all within normal frame. Remember that when we commented on Q1, we said that 2025 was the unusual part. We had a normal year when it comes to the inventory.
Kenneth Lynard: Good morning, Joe. This is Kenneth here. We expect that we are in a year with a normal seasonality where we saw some inventory reduction in the first part of the year, and there will be a normal cycle with a bit of inventory build also in the year to go, but all within normal frame. Remember that when we commented on Q1, we said that 2025 was the unusual part. We had a normal year when it comes to the inventory.
Speaker #4: And there will be a normal cycle with a bit of of inventory build also in the year to go. But but all within normal normal frame.
Speaker #4: Remember that when we commented on Q1, we said that 2025 was the unusual part. So we are in a normal year when it comes to the inventory.
Speaker #6: Got it. And then for Joenja, I get I'm going to phrase my question very carefully. So with the upcoming PID CVID data, which is obviously a major event for you guys, obviously you cannot market these data however you can leave or present these data to physicians as just sort of like a supplemental information.
Joe Pantginis: Got it. For Joenja, I am going to phrase my question very carefully. With the upcoming PID CVID data, which is obviously a major event for you guys, obviously you cannot market these data. However, you can leave or present these data to physicians as just sort of like a supplemental information concept. Do you have any views towards these data providing any sort of incremental boost to revenue prior to potential approval? Obviously, from an off-label standpoint.
Joe Pantginis: Got it. For Joenja, I am going to phrase my question very carefully. With the upcoming PID CVID data, which is obviously a major event for you guys, obviously you cannot market these data. However, you can leave or present these data to physicians as just sort of like a supplemental information concept. Do you have any views towards these data providing any sort of incremental boost to revenue prior to potential approval? Obviously, from an off-label standpoint.
Speaker #6: Concept. Do you have any views towards these data providing any sort of incremental boost to revenue prior to potential approval? Obviously from an off-label standpoint.
Fabrice Chouraqui: No, Joe. Obviously as Anurag said, we have those two phase II open label study that we will read out in Q4, we would be engaging with the FDA and our base assumption that we are going to have to conduct a phase III trial. Until the phase III trial read out and we received proper approval from FDA, we will not be able to promote the data, and we do not expect any sales from CVID. This being said, there are a lot of opportunities in APDS as we disclosed, the many opportunities in APDS in the US in adult as well with the expected upcoming pediatric and the geographic expansion should allow us to fuel the growth of Joenja very significantly in the coming years as we wait for these new indications to materialize.
Fabrice Chouraqui: No, Joe. Obviously as Anurag said, we have those two phase II open label study that we will read out in Q4, we would be engaging with the FDA and our base assumption that we are going to have to conduct a phase III trial. Until the phase III trial read out and we received proper approval from FDA, we will not be able to promote the data, and we do not expect any sales from CVID. This being said, there are a lot of opportunities in APDS as we disclosed, the many opportunities in APDS in the US in adult as well with the expected upcoming pediatric and the geographic expansion should allow us to fuel the growth of Joenja very significantly in the coming years as we wait for these new indications to materialize.
Speaker #4: No, Joe, obviously as Anorak said, we have those two phase two open label study that we'll read out in Q4. And we are we would be engaging with the FDA and our base assumption that we're going to have to conduct a phase three trial.
Speaker #4: And until the phase three trial read out and we received proper approval from FDA, we won't be able to promote the data. And we don't expect any sales from CVID.
Speaker #4: This being said, there are a lot of opportunities in APDS as we as we disclosed and so the many opportunities in APDS in the US in adult as well with upcoming the expected upcoming pediatric and the geographic expansion should allow us to fuel the growth of Joenja very significantly in the coming years as we wait for this new indications to materialize.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Joe Pantginis: Thank you.
Joe Pantginis: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is going to come from Sushila Hernandez with Van Lanschot Kempen. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is going to come from Sushila Hernandez with Van Lanschot Kempen. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And the next question is going to come from Sushila Hernandez with Bay and Landshot Kempen. Your line is open.
Speaker #7: Yes, thank you for taking my questions. On RUCONEST and the on-demand HAE market, how do you expect that these dynamics on new patient initiations will play out? Or do you expect that patients will still find RUCONEST after they have tried other drugs?
Sushila Hernandez: Yes, thank you for taking my questions. On RUCONEST and the on-demand HAE market, how do you expect that these dynamics on new patient initiations will play out? Do you expect that patients will still find RUCONEST after they have tried other drugs?
Sushila Hernandez: Yes, thank you for taking my questions. On RUCONEST and the on-demand HAE market, how do you expect that these dynamics on new patient initiations will play out? Do you expect that patients will still find RUCONEST after they have tried other drugs?
Leverne Marsh: Certainly. Thanks, Sushila. From a new enrollment perspective, we think about inflows in two different ways, right? New enrollments or brand new patient starts and restarts. When we look at new enrollments, the vast majority of those come from, in fact, patients who've had suboptimal responses to other therapies and now switching to RUCONEST. We expect that to continue because what we're seeing in patients who have high severity of attacks, patients who have more frequent attacks, two or more attacks per month, they do require a more reliable, faster onset HAE treatment. That is where RUCONEST is uniquely positioned compared with competitive set to continue to have a position.
Leverne Marsh: Certainly. Thanks, Sushila. From a new enrollment perspective, we think about inflows in two different ways, right? New enrollments or brand new patient starts and restarts. When we look at new enrollments, the vast majority of those come from, in fact, patients who've had suboptimal responses to other therapies and now switching to RUCONEST. We expect that to continue because what we're seeing in patients who have high severity of attacks, patients who have more frequent attacks, two or more attacks per month, they do require a more reliable, faster onset HAE treatment. That is where RUCONEST is uniquely positioned compared with competitive set to continue to have a position.
Speaker #5: Certainly. Thanks, Sushila. So from a new enrollment perspective we we think about inflows in two different ways. Right. So new enrollments or brand new patient starts and restarts.
Speaker #5: When we look at new enrollments, the vast majority of those come from in fact patients who've had suboptimal responses to other therapies and now switching to Reconnaissance.
Speaker #5: And we expect that to continue because what we're seeing in patients who have high severity of attacks, patients who have more frequent attacks, two or more attacks per month, they do require a more reliable faster onset HEE treatment.
Speaker #5: And that is where Reconnaissance is uniquely positioned compared with competitive set to continue to have a position.
Speaker #7: Again, it's clear. And then on Joenja, you mentioned the eighth core markets outside of the US. Could you also break down or give us more color on which of the markets will be key drivers for growth ex-US?
Sushila Hernandez: Okay. That's clear. Then on Joenja, you mentioned the eight core markets outside of the US. Could you also break down or give us more color on which of the markets will be key drivers for growth ex-US? Also on the VUS reclassifications, what are the next steps and when could this meaningfully add to Joenja opportunity?
Sushila Hernandez: Okay. That's clear. Then on Joenja, you mentioned the eight core markets outside of the US. Could you also break down or give us more color on which of the markets will be key drivers for growth ex-US? Also on the VUS reclassifications, what are the next steps and when could this meaningfully add to Joenja opportunity?
Speaker #7: And also on the VUS reclassifications, what are the next steps and when could this meaningfully add to Joenja opportunity?
Speaker #5: On the core eight markets, in the very short term, we are especially excited about the progress we're making in Germany. We're one month into that launch.
Leverne Marsh: On the core eight markets in the very short term, we are especially excited about the progress we're making in Germany. We're one month into that launch, that is going to be key for us as our next ex-US market, our first European launch. Subsequent to that the Japan launch that we are planning for August will be another key growth driver for us in the short term. Additionally, from a UK perspective, we continue to make progress in adoption in APDS within the UK. One additional piece that I'll add is especially excited about the Japan market because we do have an approval for ages four and above, which is our first pediatric launch that we will have before we anticipate US approval later this year.
Leverne Marsh: On the core eight markets in the very short term, we are especially excited about the progress we're making in Germany. We're one month into that launch, that is going to be key for us as our next ex-US market, our first European launch. Subsequent to that the Japan launch that we are planning for August will be another key growth driver for us in the short term. Additionally, from a UK perspective, we continue to make progress in adoption in APDS within the UK. One additional piece that I'll add is especially excited about the Japan market because we do have an approval for ages four and above, which is our first pediatric launch that we will have before we anticipate US approval later this year.
Speaker #5: So that is going to be key for us as our next ex-US market. Our first European launch. And subsequent to that, the Japan launch that we are planning for August will be another key growth driver for us in the short term.
Speaker #5: Additionally, from a UK perspective, we continue to make progress and drive adoption in APDS within the UK. And one additional piece that I'll add is that we're especially excited about the Japan market because we do have an approval for ages four and above, which is our first pediatric launch. We will have that before we anticipate US approval later this year.
Anurag Relan: Hi, Sushila. On the VUS reclassification efforts, we actually have a number of efforts that are ongoing, those we have the efforts that are trying to help clinicians reclassify VUSs on a one-by-one basis. Again, that's ongoing now and those that involves collecting additional data, looking at literature, family testing that can also be helpful in resolving these VUSs. That's happening on an ongoing basis and we're seeing patients getting reclassified as a result of that. On top of that, we have the much larger project that we talked about in the past that we have partnered with Columbia on, that work has also been initiated. Once I have a little more clarity on when that's getting wrapped up, we'll be able to give you more guidance on what the timing of that. That work is well underway.
Anurag Relan: Hi, Sushila. On the VUS reclassification efforts, we actually have a number of efforts that are ongoing, those we have the efforts that are trying to help clinicians reclassify VUSs on a one-by-one basis. Again, that's ongoing now and those that involves collecting additional data, looking at literature, family testing that can also be helpful in resolving these VUSs. That's happening on an ongoing basis and we're seeing patients getting reclassified as a result of that. On top of that, we have the much larger project that we talked about in the past that we have partnered with Columbia on, that work has also been initiated. Once I have a little more clarity on when that's getting wrapped up, we'll be able to give you more guidance on what the timing of that. That work is well underway.
Speaker #4: And Sushila, so on the VUS reclassification efforts, we actually have a number of efforts that are ongoing. And with those, we have efforts that are trying to help clinicians reclassify VUSs on a one-by-one basis.
Speaker #4: And again, that's that's ongoing now. And and those that involves collecting additional data, looking at literature, family testing, that can also be helpful in resolving these VUSs.
Speaker #4: So that's happening on an ongoing basis, and we're seeing patients getting reclassified as a result of that. On top of that, we have the much larger project that we talked about in the past, that we had partnered with Columbia on.
Speaker #4: And that work has also been initiated. Once I have a little more clarity on when that's getting wrapped up, we'll be able to give you more guidance on the timing of that.
Speaker #4: But that work is well underway.
Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you for this additional color and just the final question. So for the genetic PID phase two study, could you remind me again how did you select these specific genetic PIDs as there are so many and which ones are more directly or indirectly involved in the PI3K delta driven immune dysregulation?
Sushila Hernandez: Okay. Thank you for this additional color. Just the final question. For the genetic PID phase II study, could you remind me again, how did you select these specific genetic PIDs as there are so many, and which ones are more directly or indirectly involved in a PI3K delta-driven immune dysregulation?
Sushila Hernandez: Okay. Thank you for this additional color. Just the final question. For the genetic PID phase II study, could you remind me again, how did you select these specific genetic PIDs as there are so many, and which ones are more directly or indirectly involved in a PI3K delta-driven immune dysregulation?
Anurag Relan: The genetic PID study, the genes that were selected for it were all selected on the fact that there was a connection to this pathway, and that these abnormalities in these genes could lead to driving of that pathway, and there was published data on that. That's how that group or that basket of genes was selected.
Speaker #4: So the genetic PID study, the genes that were selected for it were all selected on the fact that there was a connection to this pathway.
Anurag Relan: The genetic PID study, the genes that were selected for it were all selected on the fact that there was a connection to this pathway, and that these abnormalities in these genes could lead to driving of that pathway, and there was published data on that. That's how that group or that basket of genes was selected.
Speaker #4: And that these abnormalities in these genes could lead to driving of that pathway. And there was published data on that. So that's how that group or that basket of genes was selected.
Speaker #7: Okay. Thanks for that color.
Sushila Hernandez: Okay, thanks for that color.
Sushila Hernandez: Okay, thanks for that color.
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Speaker #4: Yes. Hello. Good morning and good afternoon. I've got three or four questions if I may. The first one is on the new the new enrollments.
Simon Scholes: Yes. Hello. Good morning and good afternoon. I've got three or four questions, if I may. The first one is on the new enrollments. You've pointed out that with 84 new enrollments with RUCONEST in Q2, you're quite close to the level you were seeing in H1 of last year, which is over 90. Of course, in H1 of last year, you were seeing US growth in RUCONEST of 30%, and now it's retreating somewhat. I think it would be helpful if you could give us the net figure or even new enrollments, less switches and drop-offs. Also, I was wondering if I'm correct in thinking that the next EU launch for Joenja after Germany will not be until 2027. I was also wondering if you could give us an idea of when you might see pediatric approval in the European Union.
Simon Scholes: Yes. Hello. Good morning and good afternoon. I've got three or four questions, if I may. The first one is on the new enrollments. You've pointed out that with 84 new enrollments with RUCONEST in Q2, you're quite close to the level you were seeing in H1 of last year, which is over 90. Of course, in H1 of last year, you were seeing US growth in RUCONEST of 30%, and now it's retreating somewhat. I think it would be helpful if you could give us the net figure or even new enrollments, less switches and drop-offs. Also, I was wondering if I'm correct in thinking that the next EU launch for Joenja after Germany will not be until 2027. I was also wondering if you could give us an idea of when you might see pediatric approval in the European Union.
Speaker #4: You've pointed out that with 84 new enrollments with Reconnaissance in Q2, I mean, you're quite close to the level you were seeing in the first half of last year, which is over 90.
Speaker #4: But of course, in the first half of last year, you were seeing US growth in Reconnaissance of 30% and now now it's retreating somewhat.
Speaker #4: So I think it would be helpful if you could if you could give us the net figure, i.e. the new enrollments less switches and drop-offs than also I was wondering if I'm correct in thinking that the next EU launch for Joenja after Germany will not be not be until 27.
Speaker #4: And then I was also wondering if you could give us an idea of when you might see pediatric approval in the European Union. And just lastly, I was wondering if you could give us some more color on the manufacturing impairment of inventory.
Simon Scholes: Just lastly, I was wondering if you could give us some more color on the manufacturing impairment of inventory, what exactly was happening there, and which product does that relate to. That's it from me.
Simon Scholes: Just lastly, I was wondering if you could give us some more color on the manufacturing impairment of inventory, what exactly was happening there, and which product does that relate to. That's it from me.
Speaker #4: What exactly was happening there and which product does that relate to? That's it from me. Thank you Simon. I'll start with with the the new enrollment and and the outlook, the growth outlook for for Reconnaissance as I understand your your question well.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Simon. I'll start with the new enrollment and the outlook, the growth outlook for RUCONEST, as I understand your question well. As we've said, based on the robust underlying key performance indicator related to the resilience of RUCONEST, 93% of the active patient base maintained year-over-year, as well as the solid new enrollment that you pointed out. We expect to stabilize RUCONEST and have it return to growth. Yet, as I've explained, we see RUCONEST as a durable cash engine for Pharming with Joenja being the growth drivers for the years to come. That's how we are approaching our portfolio. That's how the company is evolving from becoming a one-asset company to becoming a more diversified rare disease company with a longer-term growth profile, given the number of growth catalysts for Joenja as well as very significant pipeline catalysts for Joenja as well as NepaZyme.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, Simon. I'll start with the new enrollment and the outlook, the growth outlook for RUCONEST, as I understand your question well. As we've said, based on the robust underlying key performance indicator related to the resilience of RUCONEST, 93% of the active patient base maintained year-over-year, as well as the solid new enrollment that you pointed out. We expect to stabilize RUCONEST and have it return to growth. Yet, as I've explained, we see RUCONEST as a durable cash engine for Pharming with Joenja being the growth drivers for the years to come. That's how we are approaching our portfolio. That's how the company is evolving from becoming a one-asset company to becoming a more diversified rare disease company with a longer-term growth profile, given the number of growth catalysts for Joenja as well as very significant pipeline catalysts for Joenja as well as NepaZyme.
Speaker #4: As we've said, based on on the robust underlying key performance indicator related to the resilience of of Reconnaissance, 93% of the active patient base maintained year over year.
Speaker #4: As well as the solid new enrollment that you pointed out, we expect to stabilize Reconnaissance and Abbott return to growth. Yet as I've explained, we see Reconnaissance as a durable cash engine for farming with Joenja being the growth drivers for the the the the years to come.
Speaker #4: So that's how we are approaching our portfolio. That's how the company is evolving. From becoming a one asset company to becoming a more diversified rare disease company with a longer term growth profile.
Speaker #4: Given the number of growth catalysts for Joenja as well as very significant pipeline catalysts for Joenja as well as Nepazimo. When it comes to geographic expansion, I will let Liver provide her perspective.
Fabrice Chouraqui: When it comes to geographic expansion, I will let LaVerne provide her perspective.
Fabrice Chouraqui: When it comes to geographic expansion, I will let LaVerne provide her perspective.
Leverne Marsh: In the short term, of course, we are in our peri-launch phase in the UK. German launch is underway, then we're looking forward to the Japan launch in the August timeframe in ages four and above. For 2027, as we look into that timeframe, of course, we have announced both approvals in Canada and South Korea, and we are anticipating that we continue launch progress toward Australia and Italy in 2027. When we look in totality at the potential for continued growth and expansion in 2027, we plan to make good progress across those markets for Joenja pediatric and as well as Joenja adult. The second Joenja question, if you could repeat that.
Speaker #5: So in the short term, of course, we are in our perilaunch phase in in the UK, German launches underway, and then we're looking forward to the Japan launch in the August time frame and ages four and above.
Leverne Marsh: In the short term, of course, we are in our peri-launch phase in the UK. German launch is underway, then we're looking forward to the Japan launch in the August timeframe in ages four and above. For 2027, as we look into that timeframe, of course, we have announced both approvals in Canada and South Korea, and we are anticipating that we continue launch progress toward Australia and Italy in 2027. When we look in totality at the potential for continued growth and expansion in 2027, we plan to make good progress across those markets for Joenja pediatric and as well as Joenja adult. The second Joenja question, if you could repeat that.
Speaker #5: For 2027, as we look into into that time frame, of course, we have announced both approvals in in Canada and South Korea. And we are anticipating that we continue launch progress toward Australia and Italy in 2027.
Speaker #5: So when we look in totality at the potential for continued growth and expansion in 2027, we plan to make good progress across those markets for Joenja pediatric as well as Joenja adult.
Speaker #5: The second Joenja question, if you could repeat that.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Was about pediatric indication in Europe.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Was about pediatric indication in Europe.
Speaker #4: Was about pediatric indication in in Europe and let's analyze. Yes, that's right. So hi Simon. So we're you know, obviously we as Laverne mentioned earlier, we've identified a large number of patients, APDS patients, outside of the US in these core markets.
Simon Scholes: Yes, that's right.
Simon Scholes: Yes, that's right.
Anurag Relan: Hi, Simon. Obviously, as LaVerne mentioned earlier, we've identified a large number of APDS patients outside of the US in these core markets, and a significant number of those, similar to what we've seen in the US, are pediatric patients. The unmet need is very similar across Europe. We're planning to bring the same dataset that we have from these pediatric studies to Europe as well, and we're going to do that by beginning in the UK, as we did with the adolescent and adult population, and then we'll continue to do that across Europe.
Anurag Relan: Hi, Simon. Obviously, as LaVerne mentioned earlier, we've identified a large number of APDS patients outside of the US in these core markets, and a significant number of those, similar to what we've seen in the US, are pediatric patients. The unmet need is very similar across Europe. We're planning to bring the same dataset that we have from these pediatric studies to Europe as well, and we're going to do that by beginning in the UK, as we did with the adolescent and adult population, and then we'll continue to do that across Europe.
Speaker #4: And a significant number of those, similar to what we've seen in the US, are pediatric patients. So, the unmet need is very similar across Europe.
Speaker #4: And we're planning to bring the same data set that we have from the from these pediatric studies to Europe as well. And we're going to do that by beginning in the UK as we did with the with the adolescent and adult population and then we'll continue to do that across Europe.
Fabrice Chouraqui: When it comes to the manufacturing impairments, Kat?
Fabrice Chouraqui: When it comes to the manufacturing impairments, Kat?
Speaker #3: When it comes to the manufacturing impairments, Kenneth?
Speaker #2: Yeah. So this is a matter where we have impaired for manufacturing inventory throughout the manufacturing process related to Reconnaissance. This is a matter that is not concluded upon but the indicators are that we have inventory that may not be possible to use for commercial use.
Kenneth Lynard: Yeah. This is a matter where we have impaired for a manufacturing inventory throughout the manufacturing process related to RUCONEST. This is a matter that is not concluded upon, but the indicators are that we have inventory that may not be possible to use for commercial use. We will conclude on the matter before the end of Q3. According to our normal process, we impair for such kind of issues when we are made aware of them.
Kenneth Lynard: Yeah. This is a matter where we have impaired for a manufacturing inventory throughout the manufacturing process related to RUCONEST. This is a matter that is not concluded upon, but the indicators are that we have inventory that may not be possible to use for commercial use. We will conclude on the matter before the end of Q3. According to our normal process, we impair for such kind of issues when we are made aware of them.
Speaker #2: We will conclude on the matter before the end of Q3. But according to our normal process, we impair for such issues when we are made aware of them.
Simon Scholes: Okay, thanks very much. That's very helpful.
Simon Scholes: Okay, thanks very much. That's very helpful.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks very much. That's very helpful.
Operator: Thank you. I am showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Fabrice for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I am showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Fabrice for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And I am showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Fabrices for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you operator. Thank you so much for all the relevant questions. We hope that we provided additional color on our Q2 earnings. Not only about the revised revenue guidance, but also about the business fundamentals and the fact that we continue to manage a much tighter operating model that has allowed us to make sure that we allocate capital more efficiently and and fully capture the number of gross opportunities and pipeline catalysts that are ahead of us.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, operator. Thank you so much for all the relevant questions. We hope that we provided additional color on our Q2 earnings. Not only about the revised revenue guidance, but also about the business fundamentals and the fact that we continue to manage a much tighter operating model that has allowed us to make sure that we allocate capital more efficiently and fully capture the number of growth opportunities and pipeline catalysts that are ahead of us. We look forward to updating you on our plans as those catalysts will unlock in the coming weeks and months. Thank you very much.
Fabrice Chouraqui: Thank you, operator. Thank you so much for all the relevant questions. We hope that we provided additional color on our Q2 earnings. Not only about the revised revenue guidance, but also about the business fundamentals and the fact that we continue to manage a much tighter operating model that has allowed us to make sure that we allocate capital more efficiently and fully capture the number of growth opportunities and pipeline catalysts that are ahead of us. We look forward to updating you on our plans as those catalysts will unlock in the coming weeks and months. Thank you very much.
Speaker #4: So we look forward to updating you on our plans as those catalysts will unlock in the coming weeks and months. Thank you very much.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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