Q2 2026 Park Hotels & Resorts Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Greetings, and welcome to the Park Hotels & Resorts Q2 2026 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Park Hotels & Resorts Q2 2026 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Ian Weissman. Please go ahead.
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Park Hotels & Resorts Q2 2026 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Ian Weissman. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #2: Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone, to the Park Hotels & Resorts Q2 2026 earnings call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that many of the comments made today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws.
Ian Weissman: Thank you, operator, and welcome everyone to the Park Hotels & Resorts Q2 2026 earnings call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that many of the comments made today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements. Actual performance, outcomes, and results may differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements. Please refer to the documents filed by Park with the SEC, specifically the most recent reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
Ian Weissman: Thank you, operator, and welcome everyone to the Park Hotels & Resorts Q2 2026 Earnings Call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that many of the comments made today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements. Actual performance, outcomes, and results may differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements. Please refer to the documents filed by Park with the SEC, specifically the most recent reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Actual performance, outcomes, and results may differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements. Please refer to the documents filed by Park with the SEC specifically the most recent reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial information such as adjusted FFO and adjusted EBITDA. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in yesterday's earnings release as well as in our 8K filed with the SEC.
Ian Weissman: In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial information such as adjusted FFO and adjusted EBITDA. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in yesterday's earnings release, as well as in our 8-K filed with the SEC and the supplemental financial information available on our website at pkhotelsandresorts.com. Additionally, unless otherwise stated, all operating results will be presented on a comparable hotel basis. This morning, Tom Baltimore, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an update on our strategic initiatives and review Park's Q2 performance and outlook for the year. While Sean Dell'Orto, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, will provide updates on our capital investments and additional color on guidance. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Tom.
Ian Weissman: In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial information such as adjusted FFO and adjusted EBITDA. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in yesterday's earnings release, as well as in our 8-K filed with the SEC and the supplemental financial information available on our website at pkhotelsandresorts.com. Additionally, unless otherwise stated, all operating results will be presented on a comparable hotel basis. This morning, Tom Baltimore, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an update on our strategic initiatives and review Park's Q2 performance and outlook for the year. While Sean Dell'Orto, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, will provide updates on our capital investments and additional color on guidance. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Tom.
Speaker #2: And the supplemental financial information is available on our website at pkhotelsandresorts.com. Additionally, unless otherwise stated, all operating results will be on a comparable basis. This morning, Tom Baltimore, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an update on our strategic initiatives and review Park's Q2 performance and outlook for the year.
Speaker #2: While Sean Dell'Orto, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, will provide updates on our capital investments and additional color on guidance. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions.
Speaker #2: With that, I would like to turn the call over to Tom.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Ian. And welcome, everyone. I am pleased to report that Park delivered another outstanding quarter, with results meaningfully exceeding our expectations and demonstrating the continued strength and resilience of our portfolio.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Thank you, Ian, and welcome everyone. I am pleased to report that Park delivered another outstanding quarter, with results meaningfully exceeding our expectations and demonstrating the continued strength and resilience of our portfolio. RevPAR increased nearly 7% year-over-year, excluding Royal Palm South Beach, with growth accelerating from approximately 4% in April to 5% in May and over 11% in June. Performance was driven by strong group demand and higher rated leisure travel across the portfolio, highlighted by the exceptional strength in Hawaii. As a result, resort RevPAR increased more than 9%, excluding Royal Palm, while our urban portfolio delivered nearly 4% RevPAR growth. These results reflect both the pace of demand across our markets and the benefits of our disciplined capital investment strategy.
Tom Baltimore: Thank you, Ian, and welcome everyone. I am pleased to report that Park delivered another outstanding quarter, with results meaningfully exceeding our expectations and demonstrating the continued strength and resilience of our portfolio. RevPAR increased nearly 7% year-over-year, excluding Royal Palm South Beach, with growth accelerating from approximately 4% in April to 5% in May and over 11% in June. Performance was driven by strong group demand and higher rated leisure travel across the portfolio, highlighted by the exceptional strength in Hawaii. As a result, resort RevPAR increased more than 9%, excluding Royal Palm, while our urban portfolio delivered nearly 4% RevPAR growth. These results reflect both the pace of demand across our markets and the benefits of our disciplined capital investment strategy.
Speaker #3: RevPAR increased nearly 7% year over year, excluding Royal Palm South Beach, with growth accelerating from approximately 4% in April to 5% in May, and over 11% in June.
Speaker #3: Performance was driven by strong group demand and higher rated leisure travel, across the portfolio. Highlighted by the exceptional strength in Hawaii, as a result, resort RevPAR increased more than 9%, excluding Royal Palm, while our urban portfolio delivered nearly 4% RevPAR growth.
Speaker #3: These results reflect both the pace of demand across our markets and the benefits of our disciplined capital investment strategy. Notably, our strongest performance continues to come from assets where we have invested significant capital in recent years, including Orlando, Key West, and Hawaii, underscoring the value creation and outsized returns generated by our targeted reinvestment among the top performers, with RevPAR increasing approximately 9% year over year and accelerating meaningfully from the first quarter.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Notably, our strongest performance continues to come from assets where we have invested significant capital in recent years, including Orlando, Key West, and Hawaii, underscoring the value creation and outsized returns generated by our targeted reinvestment initiatives. Hawaii was among the top performers, with RevPAR increasing approximately 9% year-over-year and accelerating meaningfully from Q1. Performance improved sequentially each month, driven by a significant increase in leisure demand and strong in-house group activity, which more than offset the loss of citywide business resulting from the partial closure of the Honolulu Convention Center, which is expected to remain closed through 2027. Hilton Hawaiian Village was the clear standout, with RevPAR increasing nearly 12% and EBITDA growing more than 13%.
Tom Baltimore: Notably, our strongest performance continues to come from assets where we have invested significant capital in recent years, including Orlando, Key West, and Hawaii, underscoring the value creation and outsized returns generated by our targeted reinvestment initiatives. Hawaii was among the top performers, with RevPAR increasing approximately 9% year-over-year and accelerating meaningfully from Q1. Performance improved sequentially each month, driven by a significant increase in leisure demand and strong in-house group activity, which more than offset the loss of citywide business resulting from the partial closure of the Honolulu Convention Center, which is expected to remain closed through 2027. Hilton Hawaiian Village was the clear standout, with RevPAR increasing nearly 12% and EBITDA growing more than 13%.
Speaker #3: Performance improved sequentially each month, driven by a significant increase in leisure demand and strong in-house group activity which more than offset the loss of citywide business, resulting from the partial closure of the Honolulu Convention Center which is expected to remain closed through 2027.
Speaker #3: I don't know why in village was the clear standout. With RevPAR increasing nearly 12% and EBITDA growing more than 13%. The property continued to gain market share throughout the quarter, ending June with a RevPAR index of 117, representing a 4-point improvement compared to June 2024 or prior to the commencement of the Rainbow Tower renovation.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: The property continued to gain market share throughout Q2, ending June with a RevPAR index of 117, representing a 4-point improvement compared to June 2024, or prior to the commencement of the Rainbow Tower renovation. The hotel's momentum continued into July with occupancy of 98%, or a nearly 700 basis point improvement year-over-year, and preliminary RevPAR growth of over 6%. Both Hilton Hawaiian Village and Hilton Waikoloa Village are benefiting from our recent capital investments as the renovated Rainbow and Palace towers are generating strong guest demand and meaningful rate premiums. Hawaii is demonstrating why it remains one of the most attractive resort markets in the country. Demand trends are healthy, with the Hawaiʻi Tourism Authority recently raising its 2026 visitor arrivals forecast by a full percentage point to nearly 2%, supported by growth from East Coast markets and improving international trends.
Tom Baltimore: The property continued to gain market share throughout Q2, ending June with a RevPAR index of 117, representing a 4-point improvement compared to June 2024, or prior to the commencement of the Rainbow Tower renovation. The hotel's momentum continued into July with occupancy of 98%, or a nearly 700 basis point improvement year-over-year, and preliminary RevPAR growth of over 6%. Both Hilton Hawaiian Village and Hilton Waikoloa Village are benefiting from our recent capital investments as the renovated Rainbow and Palace towers are generating strong guest demand and meaningful rate premiums. Hawaii is demonstrating why it remains one of the most attractive resort markets in the country. Demand trends are healthy, with the Hawaiʻi Tourism Authority recently raising its 2026 visitor arrivals forecast by a full percentage point to nearly 2%, supported by growth from East Coast markets and improving international trends.
Speaker #3: The hotel's momentum continued into July, with occupancy of 98% or a nearly 700 basis point improvement year over year, and preliminary RevPAR growth of over 6%.
Speaker #3: Both Hilton Hawaiian Village and Hilton Waikoloa Village are benefiting from our recent capital investments as the renovated Rainbow and Palace Towers are generating strong guest demand and meaningful rate premiums.
Speaker #3: Hawaii is demonstrating why it remains one of the most attractive resort markets in the country. Demand trends are healthy, with the Hawaii Tourism Board recently raising its 2026 visitor arrivals forecast by a full percentage point to nearly 2%, supported by growth from East Coast markets and improving international trends.
Speaker #3: Several major airlines, including Alaska, Delta, and Southwest, have also announced increased airlift to Hawaii for the remainder of the year. We remain confident that both hotels still have significant runway for future growth as they recover back to their 2023 peak earnings levels.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Several major airlines, including Alaska, Delta, and Southwest, have also announced increased airlift to Hawaii for the remainder of the year. We remain confident that both hotels still have significant runway for future growth as they recover back to their 2023 peak earnings levels. With the Rainbow Tower and Palace Tower renovations now complete, and the Ali'i Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village about to commence, we believe the setup for 2027 and beyond is exceptionally strong. Turning to Florida, our Bonnet Creek complex and Key West properties once again delivered outstanding results with RevPAR growth of 13% and 10% respectively, underscoring the strength of our capital investments and the sustained demand for Florida's premier resort destinations. At Bonnet Creek, the complex achieved record Q2 rooms and food and beverage revenue for the third consecutive year, further validating the significant investments we have made in the assets.
Tom Baltimore: Several major airlines, including Alaska, Delta, and Southwest, have also announced increased airlift to Hawaii for the remainder of the year. We remain confident that both hotels still have significant runway for future growth as they recover back to their 2023 peak earnings levels. With the Rainbow Tower and Palace Tower renovations now complete, and the Ali'i Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village about to commence, we believe the setup for 2027 and beyond is exceptionally strong. Turning to Florida, our Bonnet Creek complex and Key West properties once again delivered outstanding results with RevPAR growth of 13% and 10% respectively, underscoring the strength of our capital investments and the sustained demand for Florida's premier resort destinations. At Bonnet Creek, the complex achieved record Q2 rooms and food and beverage revenue for the third consecutive year, further validating the significant investments we have made in the assets.
Speaker #3: With the Rainbow Tower and Palace Tower renovations now complete, and the Leahy Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village about to commence, we believe the setup for 2027 and beyond is exceptionally strong.
Speaker #3: Returning to Florida, our Bonnet Creek complex and Key West properties once again delivered outstanding results, with RevPAR growth of 13% and 10%, respectively, underscoring the strength of our capital investments and the sustained demand for Florida's premier resort destinations.
Speaker #3: At Bonnet Creek, the complex achieved record Q2 rooms and food and beverage revenue for the third consecutive year, further validating the significant investments we have made in the assets.
Speaker #3: Both the Waldorf Restoration Orlando and the Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek contributed exceptional performance with RevPAR increasing nearly 15% and 12% respectively, remarkably.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Both the Waldorf Astoria Orlando and the Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek contribute exceptional performance, with RevPAR increasing nearly 15% and 12%, respectively. Remarkably, Waldorf Astoria's food and beverage revenue surpassed last year's record by 24%, driven by strong outlet performance and meaningful group contributions. We were also pleased to see the Waldorf Astoria Orlando recognized on Travel + Leisure's 2026 World's Best list. In Key West, Q2 rooms and food and beverage revenue also reached new record levels, supported by strong leisure demand and continued growth in group business. Casa Marina led performance with RevPAR increasing more than 14% year-over-year as the property's repositioning continued to drive gains in market share, which was up over 8 points in the quarter to a RevPAR index of over 120.
Tom Baltimore: Both the Waldorf Astoria Orlando and the Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek contribute exceptional performance, with RevPAR increasing nearly 15% and 12%, respectively. Remarkably, Waldorf Astoria's food and beverage revenue surpassed last year's record by 24%, driven by strong outlet performance and meaningful group contributions. We were also pleased to see the Waldorf Astoria Orlando recognized on Travel + Leisure's 2026 World's Best list. In Key West, Q2 rooms and food and beverage revenue also reached new record levels, supported by strong leisure demand and continued growth in group business. Casa Marina led performance with RevPAR increasing more than 14% year-over-year as the property's repositioning continued to drive gains in market share, which was up over 8 points in the quarter to a RevPAR index of over 120.
Speaker #3: Waldorf Restoration's food and beverage revenue surpassed last year's record by 24%, driven by strong outlet performance and meaningful group contributions. We were also pleased to see the Waldorf Restoration Orlando recognized on Travel + Leisure’s 2026 World’s Best list.
Speaker #3: In Key West, Q2 rooms and food and beverage revenue also reached new record levels, supported by strong leisure demand and continued growth in group business.
Speaker #3: Casa Marina led performance with RevPAR increasing over year, as the properties repositioning continued to drive gains in market share which was up over 8 points in the quarter to a RevPAR index of over 120.
Speaker #3: The resort also delivered record food and beverage results, with a 36% year over year increase benefiting from enhanced restaurant offerings and the continued success of Dorado highlighting the strong returns generated by our recent investments.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: The resort also delivered record food and beverage results with a 36% year-over-year increase benefiting from enhanced restaurant offerings and the continued success of Dorado, highlighting the strong returns generated by our recent investments. Our urban portfolio was another source of strength during the quarter. Washington, DC led the way with nearly 17% RevPAR growth as government-related demand increased. Chicago delivered nearly 12% RevPAR growth, supported by a strong group in transient demand and exceptionally strong banquet and catering results, which drove meaningful profit growth. Hyatt Regency Boston benefited from continued strength in group and citywide business, along with demand associated with the Boston Marathon and World Cup matches, resulting in nearly 9% RevPAR growth. Turning to group demand, which was a major contributor to our Q2's outperformance. Group rooms revenue increased 9.5% year-over-year, led by strength in Washington, DC, Orlando, and Chicago.
Tom Baltimore: The resort also delivered record food and beverage results with a 36% year-over-year increase benefiting from enhanced restaurant offerings and the continued success of Dorado, highlighting the strong returns generated by our recent investments. Our urban portfolio was another source of strength during the quarter. Washington, DC led the way with nearly 17% RevPAR growth as government-related demand increased. Chicago delivered nearly 12% RevPAR growth, supported by a strong group in transient demand and exceptionally strong banquet and catering results, which drove meaningful profit growth. Hyatt Regency Boston benefited from continued strength in group and citywide business, along with demand associated with the Boston Marathon and World Cup matches, resulting in nearly 9% RevPAR growth. Turning to group demand, which was a major contributor to our Q2's outperformance. Group rooms revenue increased 9.5% year-over-year, led by strength in Washington, DC, Orlando, and Chicago.
Speaker #3: Our urban portfolio was another source of strength during the quarter. Washington DC led the way, with nearly 17% RevPAR growth as government-related demand increased.
Speaker #3: Chicago delivered nearly 12% RevPAR growth, supported by strong group and transient demand and exceptionally strong banquet and catering results which drove meaningful profit growth, while Hyatt Regency Boston benefited from continued strengthened group and citywide business, along with demand associated with the Boston Marathon and World Cup matches resulting in nearly 9% RevPAR growth.
Speaker #3: Returning to group demand, which was a major contributor to our Q2 outperformance, group rooms revenue increased 9.5% year over year, led by strength in Washington DC.
Speaker #3: Orlando and Chicago while June group revenue increased nearly 23%. Full year 2026 group revenue pace is now up nearly 6% compared with the same time last year, representing a meaningful improvement from last month, while Q3 group pace is up over 15%.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: June group revenue increased nearly 23%. Full year 2026 group revenue pace is now up nearly 6% compared with the same time last year, representing a meaningful improvement from last month. Q3 group pace is up over 15%. We remain encouraged by overall group booking trends for the balance of the year, supported by continued strength in corporate groups, in-house events, and citywide activity across several of our core markets. Looking ahead to 2027, group revenue pace for our core portfolio is up over 6%, with double-digit increases in Hawaii, New York, Key West, and San Francisco, providing us with further confidence in the continued strength of group demand. On the capital allocation front, we continue to execute our strategy of recycling capital out of underperforming non-core assets while enhancing the quality and long-term growth profile of our portfolio.
Tom Baltimore: June group revenue increased nearly 23%. Full year 2026 group revenue pace is now up nearly 6% compared with the same time last year, representing a meaningful improvement from last month. Q3 group pace is up over 15%. We remain encouraged by overall group booking trends for the balance of the year, supported by continued strength in corporate groups, in-house events, and citywide activity across several of our core markets. Looking ahead to 2027, group revenue pace for our core portfolio is up over 6%, with double-digit increases in Hawaii, New York, Key West, and San Francisco, providing us with further confidence in the continued strength of group demand. On the capital allocation front, we continue to execute our strategy of recycling capital out of underperforming non-core assets while enhancing the quality and long-term growth profile of our portfolio.
Speaker #3: We remain encouraged by overall group booking trends for the balance of the year, supported by continued strength in corporate groups in-house events and citywide activity across several of our core markets.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead to 2027, group revenue pace for our core portfolio is up over 6%, with double-digit increases in Hawaii, New York, Key West, and San Francisco.
Speaker #3: Providing us with further confidence in the continued strength of group demand. On the capital allocation front, we continue to execute our strategy of recycling capital out of underperforming non-core assets, while enhancing the quality and long-term growth profile of our portfolio since our May earnings call, we have completed three additional dispositions in May.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Since our May earnings call, we have completed three additional dispositions. In May, we sold our ownership interest in an unconsolidated joint venture that owns and operates the 288-room Embassy Suites Old Town Alexandria, for gross proceeds of $29 million. In June, we exited the 262-room Embassy Suites Austin through the termination of the short-term ground lease and sale of the hotel's operating assets, generating approximately $6 million of proceeds. Most recently, in July, completed the sale of the 314-room Hilton Short Hills for $12 million. These transactions represent another step forward toward simplifying the company, lowering future capital needs, and concentrating our portfolio on higher quality assets with stronger growth prospects and more durable earnings.
Tom Baltimore: Since our May earnings call, we have completed three additional dispositions. In May, we sold our ownership interest in an unconsolidated joint venture that owns and operates the 288-room Embassy Suites Old Town Alexandria, for gross proceeds of $29 million. In June, we exited the 262-room Embassy Suites Austin through the termination of the short-term ground lease and sale of the hotel's operating assets, generating approximately $6 million of proceeds. Most recently, in July, completed the sale of the 314-room Hilton Short Hills for $12 million. These transactions represent another step forward toward simplifying the company, lowering future capital needs, and concentrating our portfolio on higher quality assets with stronger growth prospects and more durable earnings.
Speaker #3: We sold our ownership interest in an unconsolidated joint venture that owns and operates the 288-room embassy suites Old Town, Alexandria, for gross proceeds of $29 million.
Speaker #3: In June, we exited the 262-room embassy suites Austin, through the termination of the short-term ground lease and sale of the hotel's operating assets generating approximately $6 million of proceeds.
Speaker #3: Most recently, in July, we completed the sale of the 314-room Hilton Short Hills for $12 million. These transactions represent another step forward toward simplifying the company and lowering future capital needs, and concentrating our portfolio on higher quality assets with stronger growth prospects and more durable earnings.
Speaker #3: Since announcing our plan in early 2025 to exit our remaining non-core assets, we have sold or disposed of 10 of the 19 identified hotels, generating nearly $200 million of proceeds at an average multiple of approximately 12.5x EBITDA.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Since announcing our plan in early 2025 to exit our remaining non-core assets, we have sold or disposed of 10 of the 19 identified hotels, generating nearly $200 million of proceeds at an average multiple of approximately 12.5x EBITDA. Since the spin, we have now sold or disposed of 55 assets for more than $3 billion. We continue to make solid progress with the remaining non-core hotels, which today account for less than 5% of the portfolio's value and remain firmly committed to materially reducing our exposure by year-end with active marketing efforts underway for several assets. As always, we remain disciplined and laser focused on executing transactions that strengthen our earnings, improve the long-term growth profile of the portfolio, and maximize shareholder value. Turning to capital investments.
Tom Baltimore: Since announcing our plan in early 2025 to exit our remaining non-core assets, we have sold or disposed of 10 of the 19 identified hotels, generating nearly $200 million of proceeds at an average multiple of approximately 12.5x EBITDA. Since the spin, we have now sold or disposed of 55 assets for more than $3 billion. We continue to make solid progress with the remaining non-core hotels, which today account for less than 5% of the portfolio's value and remain firmly committed to materially reducing our exposure by year-end with active marketing efforts underway for several assets. As always, we remain disciplined and laser focused on executing transactions that strengthen our earnings, improve the long-term growth profile of the portfolio, and maximize shareholder value. Turning to capital investments.
Speaker #3: And since the spin, we have now sold or disposed of 55 assets for more than $3 billion. We continue to make solid progress with the remaining non-core hotels, which today account for less than 5% of the portfolio's value.
Speaker #3: And remain firmly committed to materially reducing our exposure by year-end, with active marketing efforts underway for several assets. As always, we remain disciplined and laser-focused on executing transactions that strengthen our earnings and improve the long-term growth profile of the portfolio and maximize shareholder value.
Speaker #3: Returning to capital investments, we are thrilled to have officially reopened the Royal Palm South Beach on July 22, following the successful completion of its transformative redevelopment, which was completed in just 15 months as planned.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We are thrilled to have officially reopened the Royal Palm South Beach on 22 July following the successful completion of its transformative redevelopment, which was completed in just 15 months as planned. More than $100 million project included the comprehensive renovation of all 393 existing guest rooms, the addition of 11 new keys, a complete reimagination of the lobby and public spaces, four new food and beverage concepts, and significant enhancements to the hotel's meeting and event facilities. We believe Royal Palm is now exceptionally well-positioned to capitalize on the ongoing strength of the South Florida market and compete more effectively within the upper upscale and luxury segments. Upon stabilization, which we expect could occur over the next two years, we believe this investment has the potential to double the hotel's EBITDA.
Tom Baltimore: We are thrilled to have officially reopened the Royal Palm South Beach on 22 July following the successful completion of its transformative redevelopment, which was completed in just 15 months as planned. More than $100 million project included the comprehensive renovation of all 393 existing guest rooms, the addition of 11 new keys, a complete reimagination of the lobby and public spaces, four new food and beverage concepts, and significant enhancements to the hotel's meeting and event facilities. We believe Royal Palm is now exceptionally well-positioned to capitalize on the ongoing strength of the South Florida market and compete more effectively within the upper upscale and luxury segments. Upon stabilization, which we expect could occur over the next two years, we believe this investment has the potential to double the hotel's EBITDA.
Speaker #3: More than 100 million dollar project included the comprehensive renovation of all 393 existing guest rooms, the addition of 11 new quays, a complete reimagination of the lobby and public spaces, four new food and beverage concepts, and significant enhancements to the hotel's meeting and event facilities.
Speaker #3: We believe Royal Palm is now exceptionally well-positioned to capitalize on the ongoing strength of the South Florida market and compete more effectively within the upper-upscale and luxury segments.
Speaker #3: Our palm stabilization which we expect could occur over the next two years, we believe this investment has the potential to double the hotel's EBITDA.
Speaker #3: More importantly, it serves as another compelling example of our unique ability to create substantial shareholder value through targeted capital investments, that enhance asset quality, strengthen competitive positioning, and unlock meaningful earnings growth.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: More importantly, it serves as another compelling example of our unique ability to create substantial shareholder value through targeted capital investments that enhance asset quality, strengthen competitive positioning, and unlock meaningful earnings growth. I would also like to recognize our design and construction team for their exceptional execution of this complex project. Their efforts further demonstrate Park's core competency to diligently evaluate and timely execute complex capital projects that will unlock embedded value across our portfolio. As we look at the balance of the year, I remain encouraged by the continued strength across our portfolio. Despite some geopolitical and macroeconomic headwinds, the U.S. economy continues to show strength, benefiting from a resilient consumer, a stable labor market, and ongoing business investment supporting demand across both leisure and group travel.
Tom Baltimore: More importantly, it serves as another compelling example of our unique ability to create substantial shareholder value through targeted capital investments that enhance asset quality, strengthen competitive positioning, and unlock meaningful earnings growth. I would also like to recognize our design and construction team for their exceptional execution of this complex project. Their efforts further demonstrate Park's core competency to diligently evaluate and timely execute complex capital projects that will unlock embedded value across our portfolio. As we look at the balance of the year, I remain encouraged by the continued strength across our portfolio. Despite some geopolitical and macroeconomic headwinds, the U.S. economy continues to show strength, benefiting from a resilient consumer, a stable labor market, and ongoing business investment supporting demand across both leisure and group travel.
Speaker #3: I would also like to recognize our design and construction team. For their exceptional execution of this complex project, their efforts further demonstrate Park's core competency to diligently evaluate, and timely execute complex capital projects that will unlock embedded value across our portfolio.
Speaker #3: As we look at the balance of the year, I remain encouraged by the continued strength across our portfolio. Despite some geopolitical and macroeconomic headwinds, the U.S.
Speaker #3: economy continues to show strength, benefiting from a resilient consumer, a stable labor market, and ongoing business investment, supporting demand across both leisure and group travel, combined with the reopening of the Royal Palm South Beach and strong group booking momentum, we believe Park is well positioned to deliver solid results through the remainder of 2026 and beyond.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Combined with the reopening of the Royal Palm South Beach and strong group booking momentum, we believe Park is well positioned to deliver solid results through the remainder of 2026 and beyond. I am also incredibly proud of the progress our team has made strengthening the portfolio through disciplined capital allocation, active capital recycling, and proactive balance sheet management, which has strengthened Park's earnings power and long-term growth profile while enhancing our financial flexibility. Beyond this year, I am equally optimistic following the planned completion of The Ali'i Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village, expected in early 2027. We will have completed nearly $350 million of transformative capital investments across our Hawaii portfolio. As a result, our Hawaiian resorts will be exceptionally well-positioned to capitalize on the continued recovery in the market and further narrow the approximately $60 million EBITDA gap relative to their 2023 peak earnings level.
Tom Baltimore: Combined with the reopening of the Royal Palm South Beach and strong group booking momentum, we believe Park is well positioned to deliver solid results through the remainder of 2026 and beyond. I am also incredibly proud of the progress our team has made strengthening the portfolio through disciplined capital allocation, active capital recycling, and proactive balance sheet management, which has strengthened Park's earnings power and long-term growth profile while enhancing our financial flexibility. Beyond this year, I am equally optimistic following the planned completion of The Ali'i Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village, expected in early 2027. We will have completed nearly $350 million of transformative capital investments across our Hawaii portfolio. As a result, our Hawaiian resorts will be exceptionally well-positioned to capitalize on the continued recovery in the market and further narrow the approximately $60 million EBITDA gap relative to their 2023 peak earnings level.
Speaker #3: I am also incredibly proud of the progress our team has made strengthening the portfolio through disciplined capital allocation, active capital recycling, and proactive balance sheet management.
Speaker #3: Which has strengthened Park's earnings power and long-term growth profile while enhancing our financial flexibility. Beyond this year, I am equally optimistic, following the planned completion of the Ali'i Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village, expected in early 2027. We will have completed nearly $350 million of transformative capital investments across our Hawaii resorts. Our Hawaiian resorts will be exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on the continued recovery in the market and further narrow the approximately $60 million EBITDA gap relative to their 2023 peak earnings level.
Speaker #3: At the same time, as operations at Royal Palm South Beach ramp, we expect the property palm stabilization to contribute approximately $28 million of EBITDA over the next few years.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: At the same time, as operations at Royal Palm South Beach ramp, we expect the property, upon stabilization, to contribute approximately $28 million of EBITDA over the next few years. Together with the continued benefits of our capital recycling program and core portfolio focus, these catalysts reinforced our confidence in Park's ability to drive meaningful earnings growth and create substantial long-term value for shareholders. With that, I will turn the call over to Sean.
Tom Baltimore: At the same time, as operations at Royal Palm South Beach ramp, we expect the property, upon stabilization, to contribute approximately $28 million of EBITDA over the next few years. Together with the continued benefits of our capital recycling program and core portfolio focus, these catalysts reinforced our confidence in Park's ability to drive meaningful earnings growth and create substantial long-term value for shareholders. With that, I will turn the call over to Sean.
Speaker #3: Together with the continued benefits of our capital recycling program and core portfolio focus, these catalysts reinforced our confidence in Park's ability to drive meaningful earnings growth and create substantial long-term value for shareholders.
Speaker #3: With that, I will turn the call over to Sean.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Tom. We are very pleased with our second quarter results, which came in well ahead of expectations. Total portfolio repar increased nearly 6% to $217, and as Tom noted earlier, increased nearly 7% year-over-year excluding Royal Palm.
Sean Dell'Orto: Thanks, Tom. We're very pleased with our Q2 results, which came in well ahead of expectations. Total portfolio RevPAR increased nearly 6% to $217. As Tom noted earlier, it increased nearly 7% year over year, excluding Royal Palm. Total hotel revenue increased 6% during the quarter, while hotel adjusted EBITDA increased nearly 9% to $204 million, resulting in a hotel adjusted EBITDA margin of nearly 32%, up 80 basis points year over year. Adjusted EBITDA total of $198 million and adjusted FFO per share was $0.70. The quarter's outperformance was driven by a balance of increasing group and leisure demand. As Tom noted earlier, group was up 9.5%, exceeding expectations by 700 basis points, with strong in the quarter for the quarter pickup in the in-house corporate and SMERF segments, while the leisure transient segment grew by over 13% and exceeded expectations by nearly 500 basis points.
Sean Dell'Orto: Thanks, Tom. We're very pleased with our Q2 results, which came in well ahead of expectations. Total portfolio RevPAR increased nearly 6% to $217. As Tom noted earlier, it increased nearly 7% year over year, excluding Royal Palm. Total hotel revenue increased 6% during the quarter, while hotel adjusted EBITDA increased nearly 9% to $204 million, resulting in a hotel adjusted EBITDA margin of nearly 32%, up 80 basis points year over year. Adjusted EBITDA total of $198 million and adjusted FFO per share was $0.70. The quarter's outperformance was driven by a balance of increasing group and leisure demand. As Tom noted earlier, group was up 9.5%, exceeding expectations by 700 basis points, with strong in the quarter for the quarter pickup in the in-house corporate and SMERF segments, while the leisure transient segment grew by over 13% and exceeded expectations by nearly 500 basis points.
Speaker #2: Total hotel revenue increased 6% during the quarter, while hotel-adjusted EBITDA increased nearly 9% to $204 million, resulting in a hotel-adjusted EBITDA margin of nearly 32%.
Speaker #2: Up 80 basis points year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $198 million, and adjusted FFO per share was 70 cents. The quarter's outperformance was driven by a balance of increasing group and leisure demand.
Speaker #2: As Tom noted earlier, group was up 9.5%, exceeding expectations by 700 basis points, with strong in-the-quarter for-the-quarter pickup in the in-house corporate and Smurf segments, while the leisure transient segment grew by over 13% and exceeded expectations by nearly 500 basis points.
Speaker #2: This pickup translated to stronger-than-expected operating results at the Hilton Hawaiian Village, Urbanic Quay Complex, and Casa Marina. As well as at our hotels in Chicago, Santa Barbara, and Washington, D.C.
Sean Dell'Orto: This pickup translated to stronger than expected operating results at the Hilton Hawaiian Village, Bonnet Creek Complex, and Casa Marina, as well as at our hotels in Chicago, Santa Barbara, and Washington, D.C., each of which generated double-digit year over year RevPAR growth during the quarter. We also realized a modest benefit from the FIFA World Cup across our host city markets of New York, Boston, and San Francisco, consistent with the lower end of our expectations, contributing roughly 30 basis points towards full-year portfolio RevPAR growth, essentially offsetting the 30 basis point drag expected from Royal Palm this year. Turning to capital investments, during the Q2, we invested a total of $64 million in capital improvements, with full-year CapEx expected to range between $230 million and $260 million.
Sean Dell'Orto: This pickup translated to stronger than expected operating results at the Hilton Hawaiian Village, Bonnet Creek Complex, and Casa Marina, as well as at our hotels in Chicago, Santa Barbara, and Washington, D.C., each of which generated double-digit year over year RevPAR growth during the quarter. We also realized a modest benefit from the FIFA World Cup across our host city markets of New York, Boston, and San Francisco, consistent with the lower end of our expectations, contributing roughly 30 basis points towards full-year portfolio RevPAR growth, essentially offsetting the 30 basis point drag expected from Royal Palm this year. Turning to capital investments, during the Q2, we invested a total of $64 million in capital improvements, with full-year CapEx expected to range between $230 million and $260 million.
Speaker #2: Each of which generated double-digit year-over-year repar growth during the quarter. We also realized a modest benefit from the FIFA World Cup across our host city markets of New York, Boston, and San Francisco, consistent with the lower end of our expectations, contributing roughly 30 basis points towards full-year portfolio repar growth, essentially offsetting the 30 basis point drag expected from Royal Palm this year.
Speaker #2: Returning to capital investments, during the second quarter we invested a total of $64 million in capital improvements, with full-year CapEx expected to range between $230 million and $260 million.
Speaker #2: In Hawaii, we are set to commence the comprehensive renovation of the 348-room Ali‘i Tower at Hilton Hawaiian Village this month. This investment of approximately $100 million will include a complete renovation of all guest rooms and the addition of three more keys within the premium oceanfront tower.
Sean Dell'Orto: In Hawaii, we are set to commence the comprehensive renovation of the 348-room Ali'i Tower at Hilton Hawaiian Village this month. This investment of approximately $100 million will include a complete renovation of all guest rooms and the addition of three more keys within the premium oceanfront tower, along with enhancements to F&B outlets, including the Tropics Bar & Grill and the poolside outlet, MixBar, all of which are expected to be completed early next year. Upon completion, nearly 80% of the guest rooms across the nearly 3,000 room Hilton Hawaiian Village complex will have been fully renovated. Finally, in New Orleans, we commenced the third and final phase of the main tower guest room renovation in May, encompassing the remaining 489 guest rooms and expected to be completed by mid-October.
Sean Dell'Orto: In Hawaii, we are set to commence the comprehensive renovation of the 348-room Ali'i Tower at Hilton Hawaiian Village this month. This investment of approximately $100 million will include a complete renovation of all guest rooms and the addition of three more keys within the premium oceanfront tower, along with enhancements to F&B outlets, including the Tropics Bar & Grill and the poolside outlet, MixBar, all of which are expected to be completed early next year. Upon completion, nearly 80% of the guest rooms across the nearly 3,000 room Hilton Hawaiian Village complex will have been fully renovated. Finally, in New Orleans, we commenced the third and final phase of the main tower guest room renovation in May, encompassing the remaining 489 guest rooms and expected to be completed by mid-October.
Speaker #2: Along with enhancements to food and beverage outlets, including the Tropics Bar and Grill and the poolside outlet, Mix Bar, all of which are expected to be completed early next year.
Speaker #2: Upon completion, nearly 80% of the guest rooms across the nearly 3,000-room Hilton Hawaiian Village complex will have been fully renovated. And finally, in New Orleans, we commence the third and final phase of the main tower guest room renovation in May.
Speaker #2: Encompassing the remaining 489 guest rooms, an expected to be completed by mid-October. Upon completion, all 1,600-plus guest rooms will have been fully renovated, significantly enhancing the quality and competitiveness of one of our most important convention-oriented assets.
Sean Dell'Orto: Upon completion, all 1,600 plus guest rooms will have been fully renovated, significantly enhancing the quality and competitiveness of one of our most important convention-oriented assets. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended Q2 with net debt of approximately $3.7 billion, translating to a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 6.1 times, roughly two tenths of a turn lower than last quarter. Equity was $2.6 billion, including $260 million in cash, $1 billion of available capacity under our revolver, $600 million under our delayed draw term loan, and the $700 million Bonnet Creek delayed draw financing. During the quarter, we drew $200 million under the delayed draw term loan and used a portion of the proceeds to repay the $120 million Hyatt Regency Boston mortgage ahead of its July maturity.
Sean Dell'Orto: Upon completion, all 1,600 plus guest rooms will have been fully renovated, significantly enhancing the quality and competitiveness of one of our most important convention-oriented assets. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended Q2 with net debt of approximately $3.7 billion, translating to a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 6.1 times, roughly two tenths of a turn lower than last quarter. Equity was $2.6 billion, including $260 million in cash, $1 billion of available capacity under our revolver, $600 million under our delayed draw term loan, and the $700 million Bonnet Creek delayed draw financing. During the quarter, we drew $200 million under the delayed draw term loan and used a portion of the proceeds to repay the $120 million Hyatt Regency Boston mortgage ahead of its July maturity.
Speaker #2: Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the second quarter with net debt of approximately $3.7 billion translating to a net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 6.1 times, roughly 2/10 of a turn lower than last quarter.
Speaker #2: Liquidity was 2.6 billion dollars, including $260 million in cash, $1 billion of available capacity under our revolver, $600 million under our delayed-draw term loan, and the $700 million Urbanic Quay delayed-draw financing.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, we drew $200 million under the delayed-draw term loan and used a portion of the proceeds to repay the $120 million Hyatt Regency Boston mortgage ahead of its July maturity.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, we intend to use the remaining delayed-draw term loan capacity together with the Urbanic Quay proceeds to fully repay the $1.27 billion Hilton Hawaiian Village mortgage in September, and also plan to refinance the Hilton Santa Barbara mortgage later this year.
Sean Dell'Orto: Looking ahead, we intend to use the remaining delayed draw term loan capacity together with the Bonnet Creek proceeds to fully repay the $1.27 billion Hilton Hawaiian Village mortgage in September, and also plan to refinance the Hilton Santa Barbara mortgage later this year. These transactions are expected to meaningfully extend our debt maturities and further enhance our financial flexibility. With respect to our dividend, on 15 July, we paid our Q2 cash dividend of $0.25 per share. On 31 July, the board approved a Q3 cash dividend of $0.25 per share to be paid on 15 October to stockholders of record as of 30 September. The dividend currently translates to an annualized yield of approximately 6.5% based on recent trading levels.
Sean Dell'Orto: Looking ahead, we intend to use the remaining delayed draw term loan capacity together with the Bonnet Creek proceeds to fully repay the $1.27 billion Hilton Hawaiian Village mortgage in September, and also plan to refinance the Hilton Santa Barbara mortgage later this year. These transactions are expected to meaningfully extend our debt maturities and further enhance our financial flexibility. With respect to our dividend, on 15 July, we paid our Q2 cash dividend of $0.25 per share. On 31 July, the board approved a Q3 cash dividend of $0.25 per share to be paid on 15 October to stockholders of record as of 30 September. The dividend currently translates to an annualized yield of approximately 6.5% based on recent trading levels.
Speaker #2: These transactions are expected to meaningfully extend our debt maturities and further enhance our financial flexibility. With respect to our dividend, on July 15th, we paid our second quarter cash dividend of $25 per share.
Speaker #2: And on July 31st, the Board approved a third quarter cash dividend of $0.25 per share to be paid on October 15th to stockholders of record as of September 30th.
Speaker #2: The dividend currently translates to an annualized yield of approximately 6.5% based on recent trading levels. Returning to guidance, we are increasing both our RevPAR and earnings guidance ranges to reflect our second quarter outperformance and strong start to the third quarter.
Sean Dell'Orto: Turning to guidance, we are increasing both our RevPAR and earnings guidance ranges to reflect our Q2 outperformance and strong start to Q3 as demand trends continue to exceed expectations across our portfolio. Accordingly, we are raising our full year RevPAR outlook by approximately 225 basis points at the midpoint to a new range of 3% to 4.5%. This updated outlook reflects the roughly 370 basis points of outperformance delivered during Q2, as well as stronger than anticipated results at the start of Q3, with July RevPAR increasing 8.5%, driven by continued strength in Hawaii, Key West, Boston, Santa Barbara, and Washington, DC. Based on current booking trends and recent operating performance, we now expect Q3 RevPAR growth to trend toward the upper end of our revised guidance range and exceed prior expectations.
Sean Dell'Orto: Turning to guidance, we are increasing both our RevPAR and earnings guidance ranges to reflect our Q2 outperformance and strong start to Q3 as demand trends continue to exceed expectations across our portfolio. Accordingly, we are raising our full year RevPAR outlook by approximately 225 basis points at the midpoint to a new range of 3% to 4.5%. This updated outlook reflects the roughly 370 basis points of outperformance delivered during Q2, as well as stronger than anticipated results at the start of Q3, with July RevPAR increasing 8.5%, driven by continued strength in Hawaii, Key West, Boston, Santa Barbara, and Washington, DC. Based on current booking trends and recent operating performance, we now expect Q3 RevPAR growth to trend toward the upper end of our revised guidance range and exceed prior expectations.
Speaker #2: As demand trends continue to exceed expectations across our portfolio. Accordingly, we are raising our full-year repar outlook by approximately $225 basis points at the midpoint to a new range of 3% to 4.5%.
Speaker #2: This updated outlook reflects the roughly 370 basis points of outperformance delivered during the second quarter. As well as stronger-than-anticipated results at the start of the third quarter with July repar increasing 8.5%, driven by continued strength in Hawaii, Key West, Boston, Santa Barbara, and Washington, D.C.
Speaker #2: Based on current booking trends and recent operating performance, we now expect third-quarter repar growth to trend toward the upper end of our revised guidance range and exceed prior expectations.
Speaker #2: From an earnings perspective, we are increasing adjusted EBITDA guidance by approximately $25 million at the midpoint to a new range of $617 million to $637 million, while adjusted FFO guidance increases by approximately $0.13 per share at the midpoint to a new range of $1.90 to $2.00 per share.
Sean Dell'Orto: From an earnings perspective, we are increasing adjusted EBITDA guidance by approximately $25 million at the midpoint to a new range of $617 million to $637 million. While adjusted FFO guidance increases by approximately $0.13 per share at the midpoint to a new range of $1.90 to $2 per share. This increase to guidance also reflects an assumed increase in expenses of 3% to 4%, with a stronger demand environment and higher occupancy expectations across the portfolio, driving increases in variable costs such as labor and utilities, partially offset by reductions in fixed costs with $11 million in benefits achieved from successful property tax appeals in Q2, and a 20% reduction in property insurance premiums achieved during the 1 June renewal of our program.
Sean Dell'Orto: From an earnings perspective, we are increasing adjusted EBITDA guidance by approximately $25 million at the midpoint to a new range of $617 million to $637 million. While adjusted FFO guidance increases by approximately $0.13 per share at the midpoint to a new range of $1.90 to $2 per share. This increase to guidance also reflects an assumed increase in expenses of 3% to 4%, with a stronger demand environment and higher occupancy expectations across the portfolio, driving increases in variable costs such as labor and utilities, partially offset by reductions in fixed costs with $11 million in benefits achieved from successful property tax appeals in Q2, and a 20% reduction in property insurance premiums achieved during the 1 June renewal of our program.
Speaker #2: This increase to guidance also reflects an assumed increase in expenses of 3% to 4%, with a stronger demand environment and higher occupancy expectations across the portfolio driving increases in variable costs such as labor and utilities.
Speaker #2: Partially offset by reductions in fixed costs with $11 million in benefits achieved from successful property tax appeals in the second quarter and a 20% reduction in property insurance premiums achieved during the June 1st renewal of our program.
Speaker #2: In addition, with respect to Royal Palm, our outlook assumes only a modest earnings contribution from the hotel in the back half of the year.
Sean Dell'Orto: In addition, with respect to Royal Palm, our outlook assumes only a modest earnings contribution from the hotel in H2, with more meaningful earnings growth expected in 2027 and 2028 as the hotel ramps toward stabilization. We are encouraged by initial booking trends, with group and transient ADRs for the balance of this year up 21% and 53% respectively, compared to pre-renovation levels and tracking ahead of our expectations. These early results reinforce our confidence in the property's long-term earnings potential. Royal Palm is one of South Florida's premier lifestyle resort assets, and we continue to expect meaningful earnings growth as occupancy, ADR, and ancillary revenues build through the stabilization period. We look forward to welcoming many of you to the property during our November investor tour and showcasing the exceptional transformation firsthand.
Sean Dell'Orto: In addition, with respect to Royal Palm, our outlook assumes only a modest earnings contribution from the hotel in H2, with more meaningful earnings growth expected in 2027 and 2028 as the hotel ramps toward stabilization. We are encouraged by initial booking trends, with group and transient ADRs for the balance of this year up 21% and 53% respectively, compared to pre-renovation levels and tracking ahead of our expectations. These early results reinforce our confidence in the property's long-term earnings potential. Royal Palm is one of South Florida's premier lifestyle resort assets, and we continue to expect meaningful earnings growth as occupancy, ADR, and ancillary revenues build through the stabilization period. We look forward to welcoming many of you to the property during our November investor tour and showcasing the exceptional transformation firsthand.
Speaker #2: With more meaningful earnings growth expected in 2028 as the hotel ramps toward stabilization, we are encouraged by initial booking trends, with group and transient ADRs for the balance of this year up 21% and 53%, respectively, compared to pre-renovation levels, and tracking ahead of our expectations.
Speaker #2: These early results reinforce our confidence in the property's long-term earnings potential. Royal Palm is one of South Florida's premier lifestyle resort assets, and we continue to expect meaningful earnings growth as occupancy, ADR, and ancillary revenues build through the stabilization period.
Speaker #2: We look forward to welcoming many of you to the property during our November investor tour and showcasing the exceptional transformation firsthand. Finally, the recently completed dispositions of the three non-core assets Tom spoke to earlier are expected to reduce second-half EBITDA by approximately $3.5 million, which has been reflected in our updated guidance.
Sean Dell'Orto: The recently completed dispositions of the three non-core assets Tom spoke to earlier are expected to reduce H2 EBITDA by approximately $3.5 million, which has been reflected in our updated guidance. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the line for Q&A. To address each of your questions, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Operator, may we have the first question, please?
Sean Dell'Orto: The recently completed dispositions of the three non-core assets Tom spoke to earlier are expected to reduce H2 EBITDA by approximately $3.5 million, which has been reflected in our updated guidance. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the line for Q&A. To address each of your questions, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Operator, may we have the first question, please?
Speaker #2: This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the line for Q&A. To address each of your questions, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up.
Speaker #2: Operator, may we have the first question, please?
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Speaker #3: Hey, thanks, guys.
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Speaker #4: Morning.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Good morning, Floris. How are you?
Tom Baltimore: Good morning, Floris. How are you?
Speaker #3: Question, hey, morning. So obviously, results are solid, and the sale of non-core makes it easier to see the quality of the portfolio. You've outlined in the past sort of upside in EBITDA.
Floris van Dijkum: Hey, good morning. Obviously results are solid and the sale of non-core makes it easier to see the quality of the portfolio. You've outlined in the past sort of upside in EBITDA. I think you said about $100 million of EBITDA over 2025 levels simply from Hawaii and the Royal Palm South Beach Miami. Then there's an incremental potential other $100 million probably from urban and from Orlando and other assets that you have. Maybe talk a little bit about the timing of when you think that potential $200 million of EBITDA could hit the bottom line in the portfolio.
Floris van Dijkum: Hey, good morning. Obviously results are solid and the sale of non-core makes it easier to see the quality of the portfolio. You've outlined in the past sort of upside in EBITDA. I think you said about $100 million of EBITDA over 2025 levels simply from Hawaii and the Royal Palm South Beach Miami. Then there's an incremental potential other $100 million probably from urban and from Orlando and other assets that you have. Maybe talk a little bit about the timing of when you think that potential $200 million of EBITDA could hit the bottom line in the portfolio.
Speaker #3: I think you said about 100 million of EBITDA over 25 levels simply from Hawaii and the Royal and the Royal Palm Beach. And then there's an incremental potential other 100 million probably from urban and from Orlando and other assets that you have.
Speaker #3: Maybe talk a little bit about the timing of when you think that potential 200 million of EBITDA could hit the bottom line in the portfolio.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Hey, Floris, thank you for your question and appreciate all the listeners. I think the $200 million might be a little overstated. We've really focused more around $100 million. That would be sort of the $60 million to $70 million sort of recovery of Hawaii, and then of course, as both Sean and I mentioned in our prepared remarks, about $28 million plus or minus upon stabilization for Royal Palm. I would sort of anchor you in that, and I would just step back and think again about what we've been saying for several quarters and the last few years, and we've been laser focused on reshaping the portfolio. We've sold or disposed of now 55 assets for north of $3 billion. We're really down to 21 core hotels, and that's nine sort of remaining non-core that only account for less than 5% of value of the company.
Tom Baltimore: Hey, Floris, thank you for your question and appreciate all the listeners. I think the $200 million might be a little overstated. We've really focused more around $100 million. That would be sort of the $60 million to $70 million sort of recovery of Hawaii, and then of course, as both Sean and I mentioned in our prepared remarks, about $28 million plus or minus upon stabilization for Royal Palm. I would sort of anchor you in that, and I would just step back and think again about what we've been saying for several quarters and the last few years, and we've been laser focused on reshaping the portfolio. We've sold or disposed of now 55 assets for north of $3 billion. We're really down to 21 core hotels, and that's nine sort of remaining non-core that only account for less than 5% of value of the company.
Speaker #4: Hey, Floris, thank you for your question. Appreciate all the listeners. I think the 200 million might be a little overstated. We've really focused more around 100 million.
Speaker #4: That would be sort of the $60 to $70 million recovery of Hawaii, and then, of course, as both Sean and I mentioned in our prepared remarks, about $28 million, plus or minus, upon stabilization.
Speaker #4: For Royal Palm, so I would sort of anchor you in that. And I would just step back and thank again about what we've been saying for several quarters and the last few years.
Speaker #4: And we've been laser-focused on reshaping the portfolio, and we've sold or disposed of now 55 assets for north of $3 billion. We're really down to 21 core hotels, and that's 9 sort of remaining non-core that only account for less than 5% of the value of the company.
Speaker #4: I think that's important. Three of those 9 are part of the dispute, which don't really require a lot of discussion at this point and only about 16 million in EBITDA.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: I think that's important. Three of those nine are part of the dispute, which don't really require a lot of discussion at this point, and only about $16 million in EBITDA. The other six assets account for approximately $35 million in EBITDA, and we've got work streams underway. We are making, as promised, significant progress, and we expect to be substantially complete by the end of the year. Then secondarily, we have been laser focused and relentless on really demonstrating our track record with these transformative renovations. We've said before, and we'll say again, we think we can generate higher development yields over acquisition yields. If you think about Bonnet Creek and the extraordinary success we're having with that property, if you think about the Key West two assets in our portfolio there, again, outstanding and outsized results. Hilton Hawaiian Village with Tapa Tower, the Rainbow Tower.
Tom Baltimore: I think that's important. Three of those nine are part of the dispute, which don't really require a lot of discussion at this point, and only about $16 million in EBITDA. The other six assets account for approximately $35 million in EBITDA, and we've got work streams underway. We are making, as promised, significant progress, and we expect to be substantially complete by the end of the year. Then secondarily, we have been laser focused and relentless on really demonstrating our track record with these transformative renovations. We've said before, and we'll say again, we think we can generate higher development yields over acquisition yields. If you think about Bonnet Creek and the extraordinary success we're having with that property, if you think about the Key West two assets in our portfolio there, again, outstanding and outsized results. Hilton Hawaiian Village with Tapa Tower, the Rainbow Tower.
Speaker #4: The other six assets account for approximately $35 million in EBITDA, and we've got workstreams underway. So we are making, as promised, significant progress, and we expect to be substantially complete by the end of the year.
Speaker #4: And then secondarily, we have been laser-focused and relentless on really demonstrating our track record with these transformative renovations. We've said before and we'll say again, we think we can generate higher development yields over acquisition yields.
Speaker #4: And if you think about Bonneck Creek and the extraordinary success we're having with that property, if you think about the Key West 2 assets in our portfolio there, again, outstanding and outsized results.
Speaker #4: Hilton Hawaiian Village, with Tapa Tower, the Rainbow Tower, and what's amazing about Hawaii when you step back, the market was largely flat, but we grew at Hilton Hawaiian Village up 12%.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: What's amazing about Hawaii when you step back, the market was largely flat, we grew at Hilton Hawaiian Village up 12%. Hilton Waikoloa, even though down slightly because of coming back online after renovating the Palace Tower, again, still gaining share at Hilton Hawaiian Village pretty dramatically there. Then again, as you think about New Orleans and the work that we've got underway there in the third phase, Royal Palm, as we mentioned, having that completed on time. Very bullish as we think about the future. I think strong execution on part of the team across the board, whether it's selling the non-core, whether it's obviously the transformative renovations, we continue to create value and a lot of that being organic, and we think that's a way that Park can really separate itself as we move forward.
Tom Baltimore: What's amazing about Hawaii when you step back, the market was largely flat, we grew at Hilton Hawaiian Village up 12%. Hilton Waikoloa, even though down slightly because of coming back online after renovating the Palace Tower, again, still gaining share at Hilton Hawaiian Village pretty dramatically there. Then again, as you think about New Orleans and the work that we've got underway there in the third phase, Royal Palm, as we mentioned, having that completed on time. Very bullish as we think about the future. I think strong execution on part of the team across the board, whether it's selling the non-core, whether it's obviously the transformative renovations, we continue to create value and a lot of that being organic, and we think that's a way that Park can really separate itself as we move forward.
Speaker #4: And Hilton Waikoloa, even though down slightly because it’s coming back online after renovating the Palace Tower, again, still gaining share at Hilton Hawaiian Village—pretty dramatically there.
Speaker #4: And then again, as you think about New Orleans and the work that we've got underway there in the third phase, Royal Palm—as we mentioned—having that completed on time.
Speaker #4: So, very, very bullish as we think about the future. And I think strong execution on the part of the team across the board—whether it's selling the non-core or, obviously, the transformative renovations—we continue to create value.
Speaker #4: And a lot of that being organic, we think that it's a way that Park can really separate itself as we move forward.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Tom. My follow-up is actually regarding the capital allocation towards redevelopment or ROI projects. I mean, you guys have done a I had a really strong track record of getting call it 20-ish percent returns on invested capital in Orlando.
Floris van Dijkum: Thanks, Tom. My follow-up is actually regarding the capital allocation towards redevelopment or ROI projects. You guys have had a really strong track record of getting call it 20-ish% returns on invested capital in Orlando and in Key West. You've got a number of other potential projects in the pipeline as well. Could you maybe touch on the A and B tower, the additional tower in Hawaii Village, Santa Barbara, and I believe Waikoloa, and how investors should think about investment and deployment into those assets over the next two or three years?
Floris van Dijkum: Thanks, Tom. My follow-up is actually regarding the capital allocation towards redevelopment or ROI projects. You guys have had a really strong track record of getting call it 20-ish% returns on invested capital in Orlando and in Key West. You've got a number of other potential projects in the pipeline as well. Could you maybe touch on the A and B tower, the additional tower in Hawaii Village, Santa Barbara, and I believe Waikoloa, and how investors should think about investment and deployment into those assets over the next two or three years?
Speaker #3: And in Key West, you've got a number of other potential projects in the pipeline as well. Could you maybe touch on the A&B Tower, the additional tower in Hawaii Village, Santa Barbara, and I believe Waikoloa?
Speaker #3: And how should investors think about investment and deployment into those assets over the next two or three years?
Speaker #4: Yeah. I would again make the kind of broad statement. I think we have an underappreciated iconic portfolio and when you step back and look at it, there really are improving fundamentals and I think outsized growth opportunities from 2026, the second half, really through 2028.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Yeah. I would again make the kind of broad statement. I think we have an underappreciated, iconic portfolio, when you step back and look at it, there really are improving fundamentals, I think outsized growth opportunities from 2026, the second half, really through 2028. Those are markets in Hawaii. That's Miami, that's Key West, that's Orlando. If you step back and think about Hawaii again, The Ali'i Tower, oceanfront premium tower, a hotel within a hotel. It's got its own check-in. We're going to close that down 348 keys here in the coming weeks with the expectation that we will reopen that in early next year. Could not be more excited. I think it'll again demonstrate Carl Mayfield and his design and construction team at Park and their extraordinary work. We're excited.
Tom Baltimore: Yeah. I would again make the kind of broad statement. I think we have an underappreciated, iconic portfolio, when you step back and look at it, there really are improving fundamentals, I think outsized growth opportunities from 2026, the second half, really through 2028. Those are markets in Hawaii. That's Miami, that's Key West, that's Orlando. If you step back and think about Hawaii again, The Ali'i Tower, oceanfront premium tower, a hotel within a hotel. It's got its own check-in. We're going to close that down 348 keys here in the coming weeks with the expectation that we will reopen that in early next year. Could not be more excited. I think it'll again demonstrate Carl Mayfield and his design and construction team at Park and their extraordinary work. We're excited.
Speaker #4: And those are markets in Hawaii. That's Miami. That's Key West. That's Orlando. And if you step back and think about Hawaii again, the Alehi Tower, oceanfront, premium tower, a hotel within a hotel, it's got its own check-in.
Speaker #4: We're going to close that down, 348 keys, here in the coming weeks, with the expectation that we will reopen that in early next year.
Speaker #4: Could not be more excited. I think it'll again demonstrate Carl Mayfield and his design and construction team at Park and their extraordinary work. So we're excited.
Speaker #4: And again, the whole objective is closing that 60 to 70 million dollar gap that we've been talking about in Hawaii. Royal Palm, as we mentioned, is now open.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Again, the whole objective is closing that $60 to 70 million gap that we've been talking about in Hawaii. Royal Palm, as we mentioned, is now open. I would also reemphasize open largely on time as we communicated, as we planned. There are many hoteliers, some in our space and others outside, that there are $4 billion, plus or minus, in development projects in Miami. The fact that we were on time, largely on budget, is a real credit to our unique ability to both plan and execute these types of projects. As you think about Bonnet Creek, we've continued to get growth and market share gains there. We've taken Bonnet Creek from $62 million in EBITDA. We're tracking towards $105 to 110 million this year, and we are still not at fair share. Let me repeat that again.
Tom Baltimore: Again, the whole objective is closing that $60 to 70 million gap that we've been talking about in Hawaii. Royal Palm, as we mentioned, is now open. I would also reemphasize open largely on time as we communicated, as we planned. There are many hoteliers, some in our space and others outside, that there are $4 billion, plus or minus, in development projects in Miami. The fact that we were on time, largely on budget, is a real credit to our unique ability to both plan and execute these types of projects. As you think about Bonnet Creek, we've continued to get growth and market share gains there. We've taken Bonnet Creek from $62 million in EBITDA. We're tracking towards $105 to 110 million this year, and we are still not at fair share. Let me repeat that again.
Speaker #4: And I would also re-emphasize open largely on time, as we communicated, as we planned. There are many hoteliers, some in our space and others outside, and there are $4 billion, plus or minus, in development projects in Miami.
Speaker #4: The fact that we were on time and largely on budget is a real credit to our unique ability to both plan and execute these types of projects.
Speaker #4: As you think about Bonneck Creek, we've continued to get growth and market share gains there. We've taken Bonneck Creek from $62 million in EBITDA—we're tracking towards $105 to $110 million this year—and we are still not at fair share.
Speaker #4: Let me repeat that again. So we're up 60 to 70 percent in cash flow but we are still not at fair share very competitive comp set but it's still gives us the opportunity for additional growth there which addresses your issue about us continuing to grow cash flow.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We're up 60% to 70% in cash flow, we are still not at fair share. Very competitive comp set, it still gives us the opportunity for additional growth there, which addresses your issue about us continuing to grow cash flow. Really excited about that. Key West continues to outperform as we outlined across the board, again, very strong RevPAR index performance there as well. Hilton Santa Barbara is another that we look at along with our partner that we think a comprehensive renovation there could generate outsized returns as well. Those are what I would call in the lineup, outsized opportunities for significant growth. The A and B tower, really don't want to talk about. Our plan there is to get it entitled.
Tom Baltimore: We're up 60% to 70% in cash flow, we are still not at fair share. Very competitive comp set, it still gives us the opportunity for additional growth there, which addresses your issue about us continuing to grow cash flow. Really excited about that. Key West continues to outperform as we outlined across the board, again, very strong RevPAR index performance there as well. Hilton Santa Barbara is another that we look at along with our partner that we think a comprehensive renovation there could generate outsized returns as well. Those are what I would call in the lineup, outsized opportunities for significant growth. The A and B tower, really don't want to talk about. Our plan there is to get it entitled.
Speaker #4: So, really excited about that. Key West continues to outperform, as we outlined, across the board. And again, very strong RevPAR index performance there as well.
Speaker #4: And Hilton Santa Barbara is another that we look at along with our partner that we think a comprehensive renovation there could generate outsized returns as well.
Speaker #4: So those are what I would call, in the lineup, outsized opportunities for significant growth. The A&B Tower, I really don't want to talk about. Our plan there is to get it entitled.
Speaker #4: We do not think it makes sense to move forward with that at any point in the near future and are more focused on the existing towers at this time.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We do not think it makes sense to move forward with that at any point in the near future and are more focused on the existing towers at this time. With that, I'll stop, I know we've got other people in the queue.
Tom Baltimore: We do not think it makes sense to move forward with that at any point in the near future and are more focused on the existing towers at this time. With that, I'll stop, I know we've got other people in the queue.
Speaker #4: So with that, I'll stop, and I know we've got other people in the queue.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question will come from Dwayne Fenigworth with Evercore ISI.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Duane Pfennigwerth with Evercore ISI.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Duane Pfennigwerth with Evercore ISI.
Speaker #5: ISI.
Duane Pfennigwerth: Hey, thank you.
Duane Pfennigwerth: Hey, thank you.
Speaker #6: Hey, thank you. Good morning. Just given the sell-down of non-core hotels and the completion of the Miami asset, the Royal Palm, can you just speak to the longer-term trajectory of capital spending?
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Hey, Duane.
Tom Baltimore: Hey, Duane.
Duane Pfennigwerth: Good morning. Just given the sell-down of non-core hotels and the completion of the Miami asset, the Royal Palm, can you just speak to the longer term trajectory of capital spending? Is this an above average year? Should it bend down, or is this a level we should think about sustaining going forward?
Duane Pfennigwerth: Good morning. Just given the sell-down of non-core hotels and the completion of the Miami asset, the Royal Palm, can you just speak to the longer term trajectory of capital spending? Is this an above average year? Should it bend down, or is this a level we should think about sustaining going forward?
Speaker #6: Is this an above-average year? Should it bend down, or is this a level we should think about sustaining going forward?
Speaker #3: Hey, Dwayne. This is Sean. I mean, I think it's safe to say it's something that we would think is coming down. From a maintenance capex standpoint, and clearly it's elevated because we've done some of these big ROI projects like Royal Palm, proceeding that, we've clearly done a lot of investment in Florida between Bonneck Creek and Casa Marino the last couple of years.
Sean Dell'Orto: Hey, Duane, this is Sean. I think it's safe to say it's something that we would think is coming down. From a maintenance CapEx standpoint, and clearly it's elevated because we've done some of these big ROI projects like Royal Palm. Proceeding that, we've clearly done a lot of investment in Florida between Bonnet Creek and Casa Marina the last couple of years prior to this year. In the end, I think you kind of see it more of a, absent any big ROI projects, it's more of a maintenance CapEx that's going to be south of $200 million on a run rate basis.
Sean Dell'Orto: Hey, Duane, this is Sean. I think it's safe to say it's something that we would think is coming down. From a maintenance CapEx standpoint, and clearly it's elevated because we've done some of these big ROI projects like Royal Palm. Proceeding that, we've clearly done a lot of investment in Florida between Bonnet Creek and Casa Marina the last couple of years prior to this year. In the end, I think you kind of see it more of a, absent any big ROI projects, it's more of a maintenance CapEx that's going to be south of $200 million on a run rate basis.
Speaker #3: Prior to this year. So in the end, I think you kind of see it more of a opposite any big ROI projects it's more of a maintenance capex that's going to be south of 200 million dollars kind of on a run rate basis.
Speaker #3: As we think about some of these projects and certainly think about an overall capital allocation strategies, and ultimately what the market's kind of driving, maybe if we ultimately see a different project that makes sense, from our ROI perspective, the capex could increase from there.
Sean Dell'Orto: As we think about some of these projects and certainly think about an overall capital allocation strategies and ultimately what the market's kind of driving, maybe if we ultimately see a different project that makes sense from an ROI perspective, the CapEx could increase from there. From a baseline, I would say it's coming down to the below $200 million.
Sean Dell'Orto: As we think about some of these projects and certainly think about an overall capital allocation strategies and ultimately what the market's kind of driving, maybe if we ultimately see a different project that makes sense from an ROI perspective, the CapEx could increase from there. From a baseline, I would say it's coming down to the below $200 million.
Speaker #3: But from a baseline, I would say it's coming down to below $200 million.
Duane Pfennigwerth: Thanks for that. Just with respect to the upgrading guidance across the sector, probably some of this is just good job expectation setting by the CFOs. I guess, what was your biggest surprise as you look at your own portfolio in Q2, and specifically, what's embedded in H2? Maybe it's the same answer, maybe it's a different answer. What was the biggest surprise relative to your own internal expectations?
Duane Pfennigwerth: Thanks for that. Just with respect to the upgrading guidance across the sector, probably some of this is just good job expectation setting by the CFOs. I guess, what was your biggest surprise as you look at your own portfolio in Q2, and specifically, what's embedded in H2? Maybe it's the same answer, maybe it's a different answer. What was the biggest surprise relative to your own internal expectations?
Speaker #6: Thanks for that. And then just with respect to the upgrading guidance across the sector, probably some of this is just good job expectation setting.
Speaker #6: By the CFOs. But I guess what was your biggest surprise as you look at your own portfolio in Q2 and specifically what's embedded in the second half?
Speaker #6: Maybe it's the same answer. Maybe it's a different answer. What was the biggest surprise relative to your own internal expectations?
Speaker #3: Look, I would say it was a broad-based surprise in a sense. I think the portfolio overall performed really well. I mean, clearly in Q1 earnings, we're talking about guidance.
Sean Dell'Orto: Look, I would say it was a broad-based surprise in a sense. I think the portfolio overall performed really well. Clearly in Q1 earnings, we were talking about guidance. We still kind of were looking at somewhat of an uncertain world. With gas prices going up and all the things we know about, you certainly had some hesitation there and some uncertainty. The surprise to see the resilience in the consumer and seeing, which translated to good leisure growth in the quarter for the quarter pickup, really drove group for us 700 basis points better than expected. It was across the board. We do see early good start to Q3, and we certainly think that can continue some of these baseline macro elements here. That said, we will certainly want to make sure that we're continuing to exceed expectations. We're seeing things appropriately.
Sean Dell'Orto: Look, I would say it was a broad-based surprise in a sense. I think the portfolio overall performed really well. Clearly in Q1 earnings, we were talking about guidance. We still kind of were looking at somewhat of an uncertain world. With gas prices going up and all the things we know about, you certainly had some hesitation there and some uncertainty. The surprise to see the resilience in the consumer and seeing, which translated to good leisure growth in the quarter for the quarter pickup, really drove group for us 700 basis points better than expected. It was across the board. We do see early good start to Q3, and we certainly think that can continue some of these baseline macro elements here. That said, we will certainly want to make sure that we're continuing to exceed expectations. We're seeing things appropriately.
Speaker #3: We still kind of were looking at somewhat of an uncertain world. And with gas prices going up, and all the things we know about, you certainly had some hesitation there and some uncertainty.
Speaker #3: So the surprise was to see the resilience in the consumer, which translated to good leisure growth. In the quarter, the quarter pickup really drove group for us—700 basis points better than expected.
Speaker #3: So it was across the board. We do see an early good start to Q3, and we certainly think that can continue with some of these baseline macro elements here.
Speaker #3: That said, we certainly want to make sure that we're continuing to exceed expectations, so we're setting things appropriately.
Speaker #4: And Dwayne, I would agree with everything Sean noted. I would also echo that we're in a World Cup year. We didn’t think the World Cup would be a big contributor to Park.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Duane, I would agree with everything Sean noted. I would also echo that World Cup, we didn't think World Cup would be a big contributor to Park, and it essentially performed as expected. We think, again, that sets us up for 2027 not having some of those difficult comps that perhaps others may have.
Tom Baltimore: Duane, I would agree with everything Sean noted. I would also echo that World Cup, we didn't think World Cup would be a big contributor to Park, and it essentially performed as expected. We think, again, that sets us up for 2027 not having some of those difficult comps that perhaps others may have.
Speaker #4: And it essentially performed as expected. We think, again, that sets us up for '27 not having some of those difficult comps that perhaps others may have.
Speaker #1: And we'll go next to Speeds Rose with City.
Operator: We'll go next to Smedes Rose with Citi.
Operator: We'll go next to Smedes Rose with Citi.
Operator: Hi. Thanks. I wanted to ask you first, Tom, you mentioned group pace is up 6% for 2027. Could you just talk a little bit more about that? Is that bookings? Is that revenues? Kind of where are you now, I guess, in terms of percent of rooms sort of on the books for next year, kind of relative to your expectations?
Smedes Rose: Hi. Thanks. I wanted to ask you first, Tom, you mentioned group pace is up 6% for 2027. Could you just talk a little bit more about that? Is that bookings? Is that revenues? Kind of where are you now, I guess, in terms of percent of rooms sort of on the books for next year, kind of relative to your expectations?
Speaker #7: Hi, thanks. I wanted to ask you first, Tom, you mentioned group pace is up 6% for 2027. Could you just talk a little bit more about that?
Speaker #7: Is that bookings? Is that revenues? And kind of where are you now, I guess, in terms of percent of rooms sort of on the books for next year, kind of relative to your expectations?
Speaker #4: Yeah. I would, Smeath, if you look at 26, as Sean said, we're five and a half, 6% for the balance of 26. We were up nine and a half percent in the second quarter we're looking to be up 15% is our pace in the third quarter, which is very strong.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Yeah, Smedes, if you look at 2026, as Sean said, we're 5.5%, 6% for the balance of 2026. We were up 9.5% in Q2. We're looking to be up, 15% is our pace in Q3, which is very strong. About 96% of our business is on the books, plus or minus. I would say it's broad-based as we look just Q3. Hilton Hawaiian Village is strong. Casa is strong. Hilton Caribe, Santa Barbara, Denver, New York, Chicago. Again, we continue to see broad-based there. As we look in 2027 and just focus on the core, it's really over 6%, New York City is strong, double-digit. Key West, Miami, off the charts, obviously, as part of the reopening. Hawaii, double-digit. San Francisco, double-digit. Very encouraged as we look out.
Tom Baltimore: Yeah, Smedes, if you look at 2026, as Sean said, we're 5.5%, 6% for the balance of 2026. We were up 9.5% in Q2. We're looking to be up, 15% is our pace in Q3, which is very strong. About 96% of our business is on the books, plus or minus. I would say it's broad-based as we look just Q3. Hilton Hawaiian Village is strong. Casa is strong. Hilton Caribe, Santa Barbara, Denver, New York, Chicago. Again, we continue to see broad-based there. As we look in 2027 and just focus on the core, it's really over 6%, New York City is strong, double-digit. Key West, Miami, off the charts, obviously, as part of the reopening. Hawaii, double-digit. San Francisco, double-digit. Very encouraged as we look out.
Speaker #4: About 96% of our business is on the books plus or minus. And I would say it's broad-based as we look just Q3. Hilton Hawaiian Village is strong.
Speaker #4: Casa is strong. Hilton Caribe, Santa Barbara, Denver, New York, Chicago. So again, we're continuing to see broad-based strength there. As we look in '27 and just focus on the core, it's really over 6%.
Speaker #4: And New York City is strong. Double-digit Key West, Miami off the charts. Obviously, it's part of the reopening. Hawaii double-digit. San Francisco double-digit. So very encouraged as we sort of look out.
Speaker #4: And even beyond that, as we look to early 2028, 2028 looks encouraging as well. So we are very bullish. And again, we've been intentional.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Even beyond that, as we look to early 2028 looks encouraging as well. We are very bullish, again, we've been intentional. We've been really sharpshooters on the capital allocation front, making sure that we're investing in our core portfolio where we can make money. Particularly, if we can take the big boxes and anchor them with significant group, allows us to better yield those assets and much better profitability. I think you're seeing results. The last few quarters are great examples of that. Q2, we remain very bullish on Q3. As Sean mentioned, we're going to be cautious. I think certainly our guidance reflects that.
Tom Baltimore: Even beyond that, as we look to early 2028 looks encouraging as well. We are very bullish, again, we've been intentional. We've been really sharpshooters on the capital allocation front, making sure that we're investing in our core portfolio where we can make money. Particularly, if we can take the big boxes and anchor them with significant group, allows us to better yield those assets and much better profitability. I think you're seeing results. The last few quarters are great examples of that. Q2, we remain very bullish on Q3. As Sean mentioned, we're going to be cautious. I think certainly our guidance reflects that.
Speaker #4: We've been really sharp shooters on the capital allocation front, making sure that we're investing in our core portfolio where we can make money. And particularly, if we can take the big boxes and anchor them with a significant group, it allows us to better yield those assets and achieve much better profitability.
Speaker #4: And I think you're seeing results the last few quarters are great examples of that. Second quarter, and we remain. Very bullish on third quarter, but as Sean mentioned, we're going to be cautious.
Speaker #4: And I think, certainly, our guidance reflects that.
Speaker #3: And I would just add, too, in terms of the breakdown, I would say this year, group pace is more so on the occupancy side, but next year, it's more balanced between occupancy and rate.
Sean Dell'Orto: I would just add, too, in terms of the breakdown, I would say this year, group pace is more so on the occupancy side, but next year is more balanced between occ and rate.
Sean Dell'Orto: I would just add, too, in terms of the breakdown, I would say this year, group pace is more so on the occupancy side, but next year is more balanced between occ and rate.
Speaker #7: Great. And Sean, could I just ask you to so you mentioned in the release 11 million dollars of positive real estate tax appeals. Are those kind of one-time or would you expect the property level EBITDA to be enhanced now with kind of a lower run rate tax basis going forward or maybe you could just sort of talk about the impact of those appeals?
Sean Dell'Orto: Great. Sean, could I just ask you, too, you mentioned on the release, $11 million of positive real estate tax appeals. Are those one-time, or would you expect the property level EBITDA to be enhanced now with a lower run rate tax basis going forward? Maybe you could just talk about the impact of those appeals.
Smedes Rose: Great. Sean, could I just ask you, too, you mentioned on the release, $11 million of positive real estate tax appeals. Are those one-time, or would you expect the property level EBITDA to be enhanced now with a lower run rate tax basis going forward? Maybe you could just talk about the impact of those appeals.
Speaker #3: Yeah. I would say large part I mean, maybe a couple of them were one-time, but really the biggest driver of that was Chicago. I think those who kind of follow Chicago to know there's probably certainly a few of us in our peer set that have exposure in Chicago where it's kind of an annual routine in a sense where you kind of are appealing each year essentially and ultimately getting a benefit somewhere in the Q2 to Q3 timeframe.
Sean Dell'Orto: Yeah, I would say, large part, maybe a couple of them were one-time. Really, the biggest driver of that was Chicago. I think those who follow Chicago enough, there's probably certainly a few of us in our peer set that have exposure to Chicago, where it's kind of an annual routine in a sense, where you are appealing each year, essentially, and ultimately getting a benefit somewhere in the Q2 to Q3 timeframe. If you recall, last year, we had about a $5 million benefit from an appeals win in Chicago. This year, it's about $6 million. A little bit better than that, embedded in that $11 million. The other ones were ultimately one-time in a sense in nature, one of them which was for an asset that we sold recently in Short Hills.
Sean Dell'Orto: Yeah, I would say, large part, maybe a couple of them were one-time. Really, the biggest driver of that was Chicago. I think those who follow Chicago enough, there's probably certainly a few of us in our peer set that have exposure to Chicago, where it's kind of an annual routine in a sense, where you are appealing each year, essentially, and ultimately getting a benefit somewhere in the Q2 to Q3 timeframe. If you recall, last year, we had about a $5 million benefit from an appeals win in Chicago. This year, it's about $6 million. A little bit better than that, embedded in that $11 million. The other ones were ultimately one-time in a sense in nature, one of them which was for an asset that we sold recently in Short Hills.
Speaker #3: If you recall, last year we had about a $5 5 million benefit from an appeals win in Chicago. This year, it's about 6 million.
Speaker #3: So a little bit better than that embedded in that 11. The other ones were ultimately one-time in a sense of nature. One of them which was for an asset that we sold recently Shorthill.
Speaker #3: So, in a sense, you look at our comp portfolio with Shorthill no longer in. The net quarter-over-quarter, year-over-year impact is not that dramatic.
Sean Dell'Orto: In a sense, you look at our comp portfolio, which Short Hills is no longer in, the net quarter year-over-year impact is not that dramatic. Now I would say, when you think about the basis point margin expansion we have for the quarter, it was 80 basis points overall, but excluding that, it was about still 40+ basis points better. As we look at, I'd say fixed cost in general, because that's certainly where we can directly influence that a lot more. With work being done in a number of, not only in the tax side and working on the appeals, but also on the insurance side. As you look at H1, we were probably on average about a point and a half down year-over-year on fixed cost.
Sean Dell'Orto: In a sense, you look at our comp portfolio, which Short Hills is no longer in, the net quarter year-over-year impact is not that dramatic. Now I would say, when you think about the basis point margin expansion we have for the quarter, it was 80 basis points overall, but excluding that, it was about still 40+ basis points better. As we look at, I'd say fixed cost in general, because that's certainly where we can directly influence that a lot more. With work being done in a number of, not only in the tax side and working on the appeals, but also on the insurance side. As you look at H1, we were probably on average about a point and a half down year-over-year on fixed cost.
Speaker #3: And I would say, when we think about the basis point margin expense we had for the quarter, it was 80 overall. But excluding that, it was still about 40—40-plus basis points better.
Speaker #3: So it will as we look at kind of I'd say fixed cost in general because that's certainly what we can kind of directly influence that a lot more.
Speaker #3: Good work is being done in a number of areas, not only on the tax side and working on the appeals, but also on the insurance side. As you look at the first half, we were probably, on average, about a point and a half down year-over-year on fixed cost.
Speaker #3: And with the insurance helping us in the back half of the year, it's still probably about half a point below. So we're still continuing to get a benefit in an offset to any other cost increases we're seeing elsewhere in the operations.
Sean Dell'Orto: With insurance helping us in the H2 of the year, it's still probably about a half point below. We're still continuing to get a benefit in an offset to any other cost increases we're seeing elsewhere in the operations for the rest of 2026.
Sean Dell'Orto: With insurance helping us in the H2 of the year, it's still probably about a half point below. We're still continuing to get a benefit in an offset to any other cost increases we're seeing elsewhere in the operations for the rest of 2026.
Speaker #3: For the rest of 26.
Speaker #1: And we'll hear next from Dan Politzer with J.P. Morgan.
Operator: We'll hear next from Dan Politzer with J.P. Morgan.
Operator: We'll hear next from Dan Politzer with J.P. Morgan.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning everyone. Thanks for the question. I was hoping we could maybe parse out—there’s a lot of moving pieces obviously in ’26, but maybe to bridge to ’27.
Dan Politzer: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the question. I was hoping we could maybe parse out, there's a lot of moving pieces, obviously, in 2026, but maybe to bridge to 2027. Maybe just the big building blocks between Royal Palm, Hawaii, the non-core dispositions, and the property taxes. If you can run through that, I think it'd be helpful. Thanks.
Dan Politzer: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the question. I was hoping we could maybe parse out, there's a lot of moving pieces, obviously, in 2026, but maybe to bridge to 2027. Maybe just the big building blocks between Royal Palm, Hawaii, the non-core dispositions, and the property taxes. If you can run through that, I think it'd be helpful. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Maybe just kind of the big, kind of building blocks between Royal Palm, Hawaii, the non-core dispositions, and the property tax. If you can kind of run through that, I think it would be helpful.
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Certainly, a lot to discuss there. I would say as you think about I mean, 27, we'll just kind of maybe keep it pretty broad here.
Sean Dell'Orto: Certainly a lot to discuss there. I would say, as you think about 2027, we'll just maybe keep it pretty broad here, ultimately. We talked about group pace. I think that's a core foundation of visibility into next year, and certainly we don't want to get too detailed, not we're thinking about guidance in any way, shape, or form here. Group pace being up 6% for the core portfolio, a good balance in terms of resort and urban exposure to that. Tom talked about some of the certain markets that look pretty good. We've got that as a foundation for the portfolio. Royal Palm ramp is certainly going to be a big story for us, and we're very happy how the product turned out and how it's certainly getting some early looks and positive feedback.
Sean Dell'Orto: Certainly a lot to discuss there. I would say, as you think about 2027, we'll just maybe keep it pretty broad here, ultimately. We talked about group pace. I think that's a core foundation of visibility into next year, and certainly we don't want to get too detailed, not we're thinking about guidance in any way, shape, or form here. Group pace being up 6% for the core portfolio, a good balance in terms of resort and urban exposure to that. Tom talked about some of the certain markets that look pretty good. We've got that as a foundation for the portfolio. Royal Palm ramp is certainly going to be a big story for us, and we're very happy how the product turned out and how it's certainly getting some early looks and positive feedback.
Speaker #3: Ultimately, we talked about group pace. I think that's a kind of a core foundation of visibility into next year and certainly we don't want to get too detailed and not worth thinking about guidance and in any way, shape, or form here.
Speaker #3: But group pace being up 6% for the quarter portfolio, a good balance in terms of resort and urban exposure to that. Tom talked about some of the certain markets that look pretty good.
Speaker #3: So we've got that as a foundation for the portfolio. Royal Palm Ramp is certainly going to be a big story for us, and we're very happy with how the product turned out and how it's certainly getting some early looks and positive feedback.
Sean Dell'Orto: I would think as we think about its impact for next year, if you just take what it did in 2024, essentially before we put it under renovation in last year, you add that to our performance and think about 2027, it's probably about 150 to 200 basis points of positive impact, a tailwind, just if you take, again, its performance in 2024. Clearly, we want to exceed that as we ramp up into next year. It won't be fully stabilized, but you can certainly see potential for doing better than that in terms of helping the portfolio out next year. In terms of Hawaii, group pace for next year is combined 12.5%. Waikoloa is up over 20%. We're seeing great lift and good momentum from Waikoloa coming off the Palace Tower renovation. We expect to see Q2 rate was up 11%, again, benefiting from that. HHV, of course.
Sean Dell'Orto: I would think as we think about its impact for next year, if you just take what it did in 2024, essentially before we put it under renovation in last year, you add that to our performance and think about 2027, it's probably about 150 to 200 basis points of positive impact, a tailwind, just if you take, again, its performance in 2024. Clearly, we want to exceed that as we ramp up into next year. It won't be fully stabilized, but you can certainly see potential for doing better than that in terms of helping the portfolio out next year. In terms of Hawaii, group pace for next year is combined 12.5%. Waikoloa is up over 20%. We're seeing great lift and good momentum from Waikoloa coming off the Palace Tower renovation. We expect to see Q2 rate was up 11%, again, benefiting from that. HHV, of course.
Speaker #3: I would think, as we think about its impact for next year, if you just kind of take what it did in '24—essentially before we put it under renovation last year—you kind of add that to our performance and think about '27.
Speaker #3: It's probably about 150 to 200 basis points of positive impact, a tailwind, just if you take again its performance in '24. Clearly, we want to exceed that as we ramp up into next year.
Speaker #3: It won't be fully stabilized, but you can certainly see potential for doing better than that in terms of helping the portfolio out next year.
Speaker #3: In terms of Hawaii, group pace for next year is combined at 12.5%. Waikoloa is up over 20%. We're seeing great lift and good momentum from Waikoloa coming off the Palace Tower renovation.
Speaker #3: We expect to see Q2 with rate was up 11%. Again, benefiting from that. HHV, of course, we've got the Elite Tower being renovated, as we mentioned.
Sean Dell'Orto: We've got the Ali'i Tower being renovated, as we mentioned. We'll come off of that in the later part of Q1 and certainly expect to see the benefits of that, like we're seeing with Rainbow. Certainly, it's lapping the H2 2027, what will ultimately be rooms out of order for Ali'i Tower in the H2 2027. Positive momentum, I think, as we go Q2, the H2 of the year on the Hawaiʻi side. I think even beyond 2027, I think from a Hawaiʻi standpoint, a good Waikoloa story is the property recently took in some business from an incentive group for the year that basically represents 10% of the revenue expected to generate this year.
Sean Dell'Orto: We've got the Ali'i Tower being renovated, as we mentioned. We'll come off of that in the later part of Q1 and certainly expect to see the benefits of that, like we're seeing with Rainbow. Certainly, it's lapping the H2 2027, what will ultimately be rooms out of order for Ali'i Tower in the H2 2027. Positive momentum, I think, as we go Q2, the H2 of the year on the Hawaiʻi side. I think even beyond 2027, I think from a Hawaiʻi standpoint, a good Waikoloa story is the property recently took in some business from an incentive group for the year that basically represents 10% of the revenue expected to generate this year. A big program, big win for the team as we think about the Hawaiʻi recovery story over the next couple of years, and certainly a good nugget there for Waikoloa.
Speaker #3: We'll come off of that in later part of Q1 and certainly expect to see the benefits of that. We're seeing with Rainbow and certainly it's lapping the back half of 27 would ultimately be rooms out of order from Elite Tower in the back half of 27.
Speaker #3: So, positive momentum, I think, as we kind of go into Q2 and the back half of the year, on the Hawaii side. I think even beyond 2027, I think from a Hawaii standpoint—in Waikoloa—a good Waikoloa story is the property recently took in some business from an incentive group for the year that basically represents 10% of the revenue expected to be generated this year.
Speaker #3: So, a big program, big win for the team. As we kind of think about the Hawaii recovery story over the next couple of years, and certainly a good nugget there for Waikoloa.
Sean Dell'Orto: A big program, big win for the team as we think about the Hawaiʻi recovery story over the next couple of years, and certainly a good nugget there for Waikoloa.
Speaker #6: Got it, thanks. I know that's a mouthful—there's a lot there. I guess one kind of more high-level question: you've made good progress on the non-core asset sales.
Dan Politzer: Got it. Thanks. I know that's a mouthful. There's a lot there. I guess, more high-level question. You've made good progress on the non-core asset sales. As you wind that down and there's fewer and fewer left and the contribution becomes smaller, is there any thought as to just collapsing the non-core into the core and just having one clean number on a go-forward?
Dan Politzer: Got it. Thanks. I know that's a mouthful. There's a lot there. I guess, more high-level question. You've made good progress on the non-core asset sales. As you wind that down and there's fewer and fewer left and the contribution becomes smaller, is there any thought as to just collapsing the non-core into the core and just having one clean number on a go-forward?
Speaker #6: As you kind of wind that down and there's fewer and fewer left and the contribution becomes smaller, is there any thought as to just kind of collapsing the non-core into the core and just kind of having one kind of clean number on a go forward?
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: It's a fair question. It's one that we'll study. I think candidly will depend on sort of where we are at the end of the year. We remain committed to cleaning up the portfolio and reshaping it. I do think as you look at the core, there's about a 63% difference averaging in RevPAR from about $215 plus or minus to $131, and if you look at margins on core, it's about 30%, 31% versus about 16%. Pretty significant difference there. We're confident we're going to continue to make significant progress and get it to the point where really the non-core is really immaterial as we move forward.
Tom Baltimore: It's a fair question. It's one that we'll study. I think candidly will depend on sort of where we are at the end of the year. We remain committed to cleaning up the portfolio and reshaping it. I do think as you look at the core, there's about a 63% difference averaging in RevPAR from about $215 plus or minus to $131, and if you look at margins on core, it's about 30%, 31% versus about 16%. Pretty significant difference there. We're confident we're going to continue to make significant progress and get it to the point where really the non-core is really immaterial as we move forward.
Speaker #7: It's a fair question. It's one that we'll study. I think candidly, we'll depend on sort of where we are at the end of the year.
Speaker #7: We remain committed to cleaning up the portfolio and reshaping it. And I do think if you look at the core, there's about a 63% difference, obviously, in RevPAR from about $215, plus or minus, to $131.
Speaker #7: And if you look at margins on core, it's about 30, 31% versus about 16%. So pretty significant difference there. And we're confident we're going to continue to make significant progress.
Speaker #7: And get to the point where, really, the non-core is really immaterial as we sort of move forward.
Speaker #1: And our next question will come from Patrick Scholz with Truist Securities.
Operator: Our next question will come from Patrick Scholes with Truist Securities.
Operator: Our next question will come from Patrick Scholes with Truist Securities.
Speaker #8: Hi, good morning. Thank you. A similar question I've been asking other companies on earnings calls: What percent of your hotels do you believe would qualify for Hilton's new RISE program or Marriott's equivalent program?
Patrick Scholes: Hi. Good morning. Thank you.
Patrick Scholes: Hi. Good morning. Thank you.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Patrick.
Tom Baltimore: Patrick.
Patrick Scholes: Similar question I've been asking other companies on earnings calls, what percentage of your hotels do you believe would qualify for Hilton's new Rise program or Marriott's equivalent program? Thank you.
Patrick Scholes: Similar question I've been asking other companies on earnings calls, what percentage of your hotels do you believe would qualify for Hilton's new Rise program or Marriott's equivalent program? Thank you.
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Well, I mean, clearly this is a program that Hilton's rolled out to its franchise and ownership community. Would you think about our portfolio as we talk about our portfolio is certainly heavily Hilton and call it 85 to 90 percent of our business is coming from Hilton.
Sean Dell'Orto: Well, to be clear, this is a program that Hilton rolled out to its franchise ownership community. When you think about our portfolio, as we talk about, our portfolio is certainly heavily Hilton, call it 85% to 90% of our business is coming from Hilton. I'd say that's clearly the lion's share. We've got the rest kind of mixed evenly between Marriott and Hyatt. Certainly, it's their Rise program that's kind of for us. I'd say in general for Rise, the immediate benefits I think are certainly helpful, but I'd say kind of marginal, as noted. As we know, there are gating criteria that franchisees like us will have to meet, I think like us, franchisees will have to evaluate feasibility and timing to achieve the potential of the benefits that they're giving. We expect it to evolve over time.
Sean Dell'Orto: Well, to be clear, this is a program that Hilton rolled out to its franchise ownership community. When you think about our portfolio, as we talk about, our portfolio is certainly heavily Hilton, call it 85% to 90% of our business is coming from Hilton. I'd say that's clearly the lion's share. We've got the rest kind of mixed evenly between Marriott and Hyatt. Certainly, it's their Rise program that's kind of for us. I'd say in general for Rise, the immediate benefits I think are certainly helpful, but I'd say kind of marginal, as noted. As we know, there are gating criteria that franchisees like us will have to meet, I think like us, franchisees will have to evaluate feasibility and timing to achieve the potential of the benefits that they're giving. We expect it to evolve over time.
Speaker #3: So I'd say that's clearly the lion's share. We've got the rest kind of mixed, kind of evenly between Marriott and Hyatt. So certainly it's half RISE program, that's kind of—for us, I mean, I'd say in general for RISE, the immediate benefits I think are certainly helpful, but I'd see kind of marginal, as noted.
Speaker #3: And as we know, there are gating criteria that will franchisees like us will have to meet. And we're kind of I think like us, franchisees are about to evaluate feasibility and timing to achieve the potential of the benefits that they're giving.
Speaker #3: So we expect it to evolve over time. I mean, clearly Hilton is looking at ways to address owner profitability and we certainly appreciate their focus on that.
Sean Dell'Orto: Clearly Hilton is looking at ways to address owner profitability, and we certainly appreciate their focus on that. We believe and expect that this is one of many ways to do that, and they're certainly working to identify the ways to improve the operating model and owner profitability.
Sean Dell'Orto: Clearly Hilton is looking at ways to address owner profitability, and we certainly appreciate their focus on that. We believe and expect that this is one of many ways to do that, and they're certainly working to identify the ways to improve the operating model and owner profitability.
Speaker #3: We believe and expect that this is one of many ways to do that. And they are certainly working to identify ways to improve the operating model and owner profitability.
Speaker #3: So go ahead.
Patrick Scholes: Okay.
Patrick Scholes: Okay.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Patrick.
Tom Baltimore: Patrick.
Patrick Scholes: Go ahead.
Patrick Scholes: Go ahead.
Speaker #8: Yeah, Patrick, if I could just add a couple of points. Listen, I think it's good that the owner community is fully engaged with the leading brands and looking at ways to, candidly, reshape the operating model and improve the economics.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Yeah. Patrick, if I could just add a couple of points. Listen, I think it's good that the owner community is fully engaged with the leading brands and looking at ways to candidly reshape the operating model and improve the economics. I think there's no secret. Owners have had a tougher run the last five, six years, and the fact that we're engaged at the table, that we're looking at whether it's through AI initiatives, whether it's through the Rise program or Marriott's equivalent or all of that makes sense. At the end of the day, their business models don't work unless they have a very active, engaged, and successful owner community. We've got to figure out a way for margins to improve and for cash flows to grow.
Tom Baltimore: Yeah. Patrick, if I could just add a couple of points. Listen, I think it's good that the owner community is fully engaged with the leading brands and looking at ways to candidly reshape the operating model and improve the economics. I think there's no secret. Owners have had a tougher run the last five, six years, and the fact that we're engaged at the table, that we're looking at whether it's through AI initiatives, whether it's through the Rise program or Marriott's equivalent or all of that makes sense. At the end of the day, their business models don't work unless they have a very active, engaged, and successful owner community. We've got to figure out a way for margins to improve and for cash flows to grow.
Speaker #8: I think there's no secret. Owners have had a tougher run the last five or six years. And the fact that we're engaged at the table, that we're looking at—whether it's through AI initiatives, whether it's through the RISE program, or Marriott's equivalent, or all of that—makes sense.
Speaker #8: But at the end of the day, their business models don't work unless they have a very active, engaged, and successful owner community. And we've got to figure out a way for margins to improve and for cash flows to grow.
Speaker #8: And I'm glad that the brands are committed, in my view, to that discussion. And I know that business leaders—the men and women that run, whether they're public or private companies—are all looking at figuring out ways to reshape that operating model.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: I'm glad that the brands are committed, in my view, to that discussion, I know that business leaders, the men and women that run, whether they're public or private companies, are all looking at figuring out ways to reshape that operating model. It's a positive.
Tom Baltimore: I'm glad that the brands are committed, in my view, to that discussion, I know that business leaders, the men and women that run, whether they're public or private companies, are all looking at figuring out ways to reshape that operating model. It's a positive.
Speaker #8: So it's a positive, and I think it really goes beyond just the RISE program. Thank you. I recall from a lodging conference a year or two ago—I think the quote was, "Asset light doesn't work if asset heavy doesn't either."
Patrick Scholes: Okay.
Patrick Scholes: Okay.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: I think it really goes beyond just the Rise program.
Tom Baltimore: I think it really goes beyond just the Rise program.
Patrick Scholes: Thank you. I recall from a lodging conference a year or two ago, I think the quote was, asset light doesn't work if asset heavy doesn't either.
Patrick Scholes: Thank you. I recall from a lodging conference a year or two ago, I think the quote was, asset light doesn't work if asset heavy doesn't either.
Speaker #8: So, I think that's another way of saying it.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Well-
Tom Baltimore: Well-
Patrick Scholes: I think that's another way of saying it.
Patrick Scholes: I think that's another way of saying it.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: You said it better, same outcome.
Tom Baltimore: You said it better, same outcome.
Speaker #7: You said it better, but you're giving the same outcome.
Patrick Scholes: Yes.
Patrick Scholes: Yes.
Speaker #8: Yes.
Speaker #7: Same outcome. So thank you.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Same outcome. Thank you.
Tom Baltimore: Same outcome. Thank you.
Patrick Scholes: Thank you.
Patrick Scholes: Thank you.
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #7: All right.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: All right.
Tom Baltimore: All right.
Speaker #1: And our next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies.
Operator: Our next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies.
Operator: Our next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies.
Speaker #7: Hey, David.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Hey, David.
Tom Baltimore: Hey, David.
Speaker #9: Hey, morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just a general, unspecific answer: I'm looking for—clearly, your stock and the others of your peers, for the most part, are up a lot.
David Katz: Hey. Morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just a general unspecific answer I'm looking for. Clearly, your stock, the others of your peers for the most part, are up a lot the last 12 months. I always respect the notion that management teams feel like their stock should be higher, right? Even if they're up a lot. Do you contemplate the notion of using that upside that has come your way by We've only talked about non-core asset sales, but is there a way for you, generally speaking, to play offense with that improved stock price, albeit still a little below, right? If you could make leverage lower or something like that.
David Katz: Hey. Morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just a general unspecific answer I'm looking for. Clearly, your stock, the others of your peers for the most part, are up a lot the last 12 months. I always respect the notion that management teams feel like their stock should be higher, right? Even if they're up a lot. Do you contemplate the notion of using that upside that has come your way by We've only talked about non-core asset sales, but is there a way for you, generally speaking, to play offense with that improved stock price, albeit still a little below, right? If you could make leverage lower or something like that.
Speaker #9: The last 12 months. And I always respect the notion that management teams feel like their stock should be higher, right? Even if they're up a lot.
Speaker #9: But do you contemplate the notion of using that upside that has come your way—we've only talked about non-core asset sales—but is there a way for you, generally speaking, to play offense with that improved stock price?
Speaker #9: Albeit still a little below, right? If you could make leverage lower or something like that.
Speaker #7: David, I appreciate the question. I think you and I have had this dialogue for many years. And listen, nothing would make this team happier.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: David, I appreciate the question. I think you and I have had this dialogue for many years. Listen, nothing would make this team happier. We have obviously played defense. I think we've played it effectively. I think we've reshaped the portfolio. I think we've done it as well as anyone could, given the facts and circumstances. We've intentionally been shrinking the company, getting it down to our core portfolio because that's where the real value is. The hope and expectation of obviously reinvesting in our core portfolio is that we believe we can generate outsized returns and higher returns on the development side than we can on the acquisition front. We still believe that. I think the facts would support that. The hope is that as the company continues to re-rate, we can get the multiple up and get our cost of capital down.
Tom Baltimore: David, I appreciate the question. I think you and I have had this dialogue for many years. Listen, nothing would make this team happier. We have obviously played defense. I think we've played it effectively. I think we've reshaped the portfolio. I think we've done it as well as anyone could, given the facts and circumstances. We've intentionally been shrinking the company, getting it down to our core portfolio because that's where the real value is. The hope and expectation of obviously reinvesting in our core portfolio is that we believe we can generate outsized returns and higher returns on the development side than we can on the acquisition front. We still believe that. I think the facts would support that. The hope is that as the company continues to re-rate, we can get the multiple up and get our cost of capital down.
Speaker #7: We have obviously played defense. I think we've played it effectively. I think we've reshaped the portfolio, and I think we've done it as well as anyone could, given the facts and circumstances.
Speaker #7: So we've intentionally been shrinking the company, getting it down to our core portfolio because that's where the real value is. The hope and expectation of obviously reinvesting in our core portfolio is that we believe we can generate outsized returns and higher returns on the development side than we can on the acquisition front.
Speaker #7: We still believe that. I think the facts would support that. The hope is that as the company continues to re-rate, we can get the multiple up and get our cost of capital down.
Speaker #7: And we would be very interested in certainly looking for those unique opportunities. We're not alone in that, and certainly, as you think about luxury and leisure in particular, it's very competitive out there.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We would be very interested in certainly looking for those unique opportunities. We're not alone in that, and it's certainly as you think about luxury and leisure in particular, it's very competitive out there. I think in the meantime, what we're doing in the blocking and tackling and the kind of results that we're generating in Orlando and Hawaiʻi and Key West, I think really speak for themselves, and I think Santa Barbara. You'll continue to see us anchored and focused on reshaping and with the expectation that we'll be able to go on offense. Now, is that 2026, 2027? It's coming, and we look forward to those days.
Tom Baltimore: We would be very interested in certainly looking for those unique opportunities. We're not alone in that, and it's certainly as you think about luxury and leisure in particular, it's very competitive out there. I think in the meantime, what we're doing in the blocking and tackling and the kind of results that we're generating in Orlando and Hawaiʻi and Key West, I think really speak for themselves, and I think Santa Barbara. You'll continue to see us anchored and focused on reshaping and with the expectation that we'll be able to go on offense. Now, is that 2026, 2027? It's coming, and we look forward to those days.
Speaker #7: But I think, in the meantime, what we're doing in the blocking and tackling, and the kind of results that we're generating in Orlando, Hawaii, and Key West, I think really speak for themselves.
Speaker #7: And I think Santa Barbara—and you'll continue to see us anchored and focused on reshaping, with the expectation that we'll be able to go on offense.
Speaker #7: Now, is that '26, '27? It's coming, and we look forward to those days.
Speaker #9: If I may just follow up, I want to—just, nothing is ever absolute—but it sounds as though the notion of just using whatever stock value just to reduce your leverage is not something that's high on the consideration list.
David Katz: If I may just follow up, nothing is ever absolute, but it sounds as though the notion of just using whatever stock value just to reduce your leverage is not something that's high on the consideration list.
David Katz: If I may just follow up, nothing is ever absolute, but it sounds as though the notion of just using whatever stock value just to reduce your leverage is not something that's high on the consideration list.
Speaker #7: I wouldn't say that, David. I think, as we've said on the non-core, our priority is taking those proceeds and reinvesting with our transformative ROI projects, and we've identified those that we think have the greatest potential, and Lehi will be sort of next in the queue.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: I wouldn't say that, David. I think as we've said on the non-core, our priority is taking those proceeds, reinvesting with our transformative ROI projects, and we've identified those that we think have the greatest potential, and Lihi will be sort of next in the queue. Obviously taking excess proceeds and paying down debt. The other way to reduce debt and reduce net debt to EBITDA is continuing to grow EBITDA. As Sean pointed out in his prepared remarks, we've done that 2-tenths of a turn, but the reality is to continue to execute. I would put our performance up against anybody else in what we've been doing across the board. We've been consistent in our messaging, and we've been executing and really focused on the things that we control.
Tom Baltimore: I wouldn't say that, David. I think as we've said on the non-core, our priority is taking those proceeds, reinvesting with our transformative ROI projects, and we've identified those that we think have the greatest potential, and Lihi will be sort of next in the queue. Obviously taking excess proceeds and paying down debt. The other way to reduce debt and reduce net debt to EBITDA is continuing to grow EBITDA. As Sean pointed out in his prepared remarks, we've done that 2-tenths of a turn, but the reality is to continue to execute. I would put our performance up against anybody else in what we've been doing across the board. We've been consistent in our messaging, and we've been executing and really focused on the things that we control.
Speaker #7: And, obviously, taking excess proceeds and paying down debt. And the other way to reduce debt and reduce net debt to EBITDA is by continuing to grow EBITDA.
Speaker #7: And as Sean pointed out in his prepared remarks, I mean, we've done that two-tenths of a turn. But the reality is to continue to execute.
Speaker #7: And I would put our performance up against anybody else. What we've been doing across the board is being consistent in our messaging and executing.
Speaker #7: And really focus on the things that we control.
Speaker #1: And our next question will come from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank.
Operator: Our next question will come from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank.
Operator: Our next question will come from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank.
Speaker #9: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Morning. Tom, as I look at your first half performance, it kind of strikes me that I think two markets are responsible for about half of your EBITDA, for hotels.
Chris Woronka: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question.
Chris Woronka: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Morning, Chris.
Tom Baltimore: Morning, Chris.
Chris Woronka: Morning. Tom, as I look at your kind of H1 performance, it kind of strikes me that I think two markets are spot on half of your EBITDA, four hotels. That doesn't include Miami, change things a little bit later. You said, "Hey, not seeing a lot of acquisition opportunity right now. Reinvest in hotels." The question is diversification, do you think you need to do it or want to do it? That seems like the only nearer term option would be to maybe sell a portion, like a joint venture of some of those more chunkier assets. Is there any thought to that? How important is kind of expanding the markets diversification? Thanks.
Chris Woronka: Morning. Tom, as I look at your kind of H1 performance, it kind of strikes me that I think two markets are spot on half of your EBITDA, four hotels. That doesn't include Miami, change things a little bit later. You said, "Hey, not seeing a lot of acquisition opportunity right now. Reinvest in hotels." The question is diversification, do you think you need to do it or want to do it? That seems like the only nearer term option would be to maybe sell a portion, like a joint venture of some of those more chunkier assets. Is there any thought to that? How important is kind of expanding the markets diversification? Thanks.
Speaker #9: Now, that doesn't include Miami, so it might change things a little bit later. And you said, yeah, you said, "Hey, not seeing a lot of acquisition opportunity right now—reinvest in hotels." So the question is, with diversification, do you think you need to do it or want to do it?
Speaker #9: And it seems like the only nearer-term option would be to maybe sell a portion, like a joint venture, of some of those chunkier assets.
Speaker #9: So is there any thought to that, or how important is expanding the market's diversification? Thanks.
Speaker #7: Sure. It's always in a perfect world, Chris, you'd certainly want more diversification. But if I could if we could just back up for a second.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Sure. In a perfect world, Chris, you'd certainly want more diversification. If we could just back up for a second. If you think about where we're getting outsized returns, if you think about Hawaii, obviously the forecast for Miami. I think the facts will show that here in short order. If you look at Key West, if you look at Orlando, if you look at Santa Barbara, I mean, that's probably north of 60% to 65% of EBITDA, all growth markets. Sure, would we like Hawaii in a perfect world to be less than where it is today? It's fee simple real estate, huge moat, very difficult to replicate what we have, and near impossible from that standpoint. We like our positioning from that standpoint.
Tom Baltimore: Sure. In a perfect world, Chris, you'd certainly want more diversification. If we could just back up for a second. If you think about where we're getting outsized returns, if you think about Hawaii, obviously the forecast for Miami. I think the facts will show that here in short order. If you look at Key West, if you look at Orlando, if you look at Santa Barbara, I mean, that's probably north of 60% to 65% of EBITDA, all growth markets. Sure, would we like Hawaii in a perfect world to be less than where it is today? It's fee simple real estate, huge moat, very difficult to replicate what we have, and near impossible from that standpoint. We like our positioning from that standpoint.
Speaker #7: If you think about where we're getting outsized returns, and if you think about Hawaii—obviously, the forecast for Miami—I think the facts will show that here in short order.
Speaker #7: If you look at Key West, if you look at Orlando, if you look at Santa Barbara, I mean, that's probably north of 60 to 65 percent of EBITDA, all growth markets.
Speaker #7: So sure, we'd like Hawaii, in a perfect world, to be less than where it is today. But it's fee simple real estate, huge moat, very difficult to replicate what we have in—near impossible from that standpoint.
Speaker #7: So we like our positioning. From that standpoint, as the stock re-rates and the cost of capital comes down, we certainly will look for other opportunities.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: As the stock re-rates and the cost of capital comes down, we certainly will look for other opportunities, but we like our positioning right now as we look out.
Tom Baltimore: As the stock re-rates and the cost of capital comes down, we certainly will look for other opportunities, but we like our positioning right now as we look out.
Speaker #7: But we like our positioning right now as we look out.
Speaker #9: Okay, understood. Thanks, Tom. And just a quick follow-up: does the W in South Beach going over to Hilton and Waldorf—does that at all change your underwriting?
Chris Woronka: Okay. Understood. Thanks, Tom. Just a quick follow-up.
Chris Woronka: Okay. Understood. Thanks, Tom. Just a quick follow-up.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Yep.
Tom Baltimore: Yep.
Chris Woronka: Is the W in South Beach going over to Hilton and Waldorf? Does that at all change your underwriting, I guess, for the better at Royal Palm, since you lose a Marriott competitor, basically?
Chris Woronka: Is the W in South Beach going over to Hilton and Waldorf? Does that at all change your underwriting, I guess, for the better at Royal Palm, since you lose a Marriott competitor, basically?
Speaker #9: I guess for the better at Royal Palm, since you lose a Marriott competitor, basically.
Speaker #7: Yeah, I think incrementally it helps from that standpoint. But I'm excited for Hilton and getting the Waldorf down there. I think that's great for the submarket.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Yeah, I think incrementally, it helps from that standpoint. I'm excited for Hilton in getting the Waldorf down there. I think that's great for the sub-market. We know Miami pretty well, and there's a lot of luxury product, and I think adding Waldorf to the mix will be great. We can't wait to show the investor community Royal Palm and the transformation that's occurred there. It is, to steal a phrase from an executive at Marriott, stunning, and we are very proud of it, and well-positioned in the future there.
Tom Baltimore: Yeah, I think incrementally, it helps from that standpoint. I'm excited for Hilton in getting the Waldorf down there. I think that's great for the sub-market. We know Miami pretty well, and there's a lot of luxury product, and I think adding Waldorf to the mix will be great. We can't wait to show the investor community Royal Palm and the transformation that's occurred there. It is, to steal a phrase from an executive at Marriott, stunning, and we are very proud of it, and well-positioned in the future there.
Speaker #7: We know Miami pretty well, and there's a lot of luxury product. I think adding Waldorf to the mix will be great, and we can't wait to show the investor community Royal Palm and the transformation that's occurred there.
Speaker #7: To steal a phrase from an executive at Marriott: stunning. We are very, very proud of it, and well positioned for the future there.
Speaker #1: And we'll go next to Robin Farley with UBS.
Operator: We'll go next to Robin Farley with UBS.
Operator: We'll go next to Robin Farley with UBS.
Speaker #3: Great, thank you. Kind of a longer-term question here. You have pretty staged growth in the next 24 months, with a lot of these renovations coming on.
Robin Farley: Great. Thank you. Kind of a longer-term question here. You have pretty staged growth in the next 24 months with a lot of these renovations coming on, I guess, maybe what time frame should we expect for news about your next projects? Could that be as soon as this year, or not necessarily something that you would be announcing that soon?
Robin Farley: Great. Thank you. Kind of a longer-term question here. You have pretty staged growth in the next 24 months with a lot of these renovations coming on, I guess, maybe what time frame should we expect for news about your next projects? Could that be as soon as this year, or not necessarily something that you would be announcing that soon?
Speaker #3: And I guess, when—maybe what time frame should we expect kind of news about your next projects? Could that be as soon as this year, or is it not necessarily something that you would be announcing that soon?
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We've tried, Robin, to be very proactive, I think as Sean mentioned, obviously, we've ramped up a little more on the CapEx the last few years, all intentional. We would probably get back to what we would call sort of a normal run rate. Ali'i makes sense. As I mentioned, I think Santa Barbara is another asset that we would certainly huddle with our partner, we think there's the opportunity to really sort of take that up to the next level, we think that certainly the returns would generate that. We're very thoughtful. We tend to study the situations very carefully, both the scope, the timing, the process, and minimizing the amount of disruption. There are some cases like Miami where it was so complex in three buildings where we ended up having to close the hotel.
Tom Baltimore: We've tried, Robin, to be very proactive, I think as Sean mentioned, obviously, we've ramped up a little more on the CapEx the last few years, all intentional. We would probably get back to what we would call sort of a normal run rate. Ali'i makes sense. As I mentioned, I think Santa Barbara is another asset that we would certainly huddle with our partner, we think there's the opportunity to really sort of take that up to the next level, we think that certainly the returns would generate that. We're very thoughtful. We tend to study the situations very carefully, both the scope, the timing, the process, and minimizing the amount of disruption. There are some cases like Miami where it was so complex in three buildings where we ended up having to close the hotel.
Speaker #7: We've tried, Robin, to be very proactive. And I think, as Sean mentioned, obviously we've ramped up a little more in the CapEx the last few years, all intentional.
Speaker #7: We would probably get back to what we would call sort of a normal run rate. Lehi makes sense. And as I mentioned, I think Santa Barbara is another asset that we would certainly huddle with our partner.
Speaker #7: But we think there's an opportunity to really take that up to the next level, and we certainly believe the returns would support that.
Speaker #7: But we're very thoughtful. We tend to study the situations very carefully—both the scope, the timing, and the process—while also minimizing the amount of disruption.
Speaker #7: There are some cases, like Miami, where it was so complex and there were three buildings, where we ended up having to close the hotel. But if you think about a Lehi, obviously we're going to close that hotel while we keep the full campus up and running and operating.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: If you think about Ali'i, obviously, we're going to close that hotel while we keep the full campus up and running and operating. The team is experienced, it's seasoned, and I think we've got a demonstrated track record that respectfully is really the best in the sector.
Tom Baltimore: If you think about Ali'i, obviously, we're going to close that hotel while we keep the full campus up and running and operating. The team is experienced, it's seasoned, and I think we've got a demonstrated track record that respectfully is really the best in the sector.
Speaker #7: So the team is experienced, it's seasoned, and I think we've got a demonstrated track record that, respectfully, is really the best in the sector.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thank you.
Robin Farley: Okay. Thank you.
Robin Farley: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Thank you.
Tom Baltimore: Thank you.
Speaker #1: And moving next to Rich Hightower with Barclays.
Operator: Moving next to Rich Hightower with Barclays.
Operator: Moving next to Rich Hightower with Barclays.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Hey guys, good afternoon. Hey Tom. I guess, maybe just to repackage some of the prior lines of questioning. But Tom, you did mention that the— I guess the private market bid for luxury and leisure is still fairly competitive.
Rich Hightower: Yeah. Hey, guys. Good afternoon.
Rich Hightower: Yeah. Hey, guys. Good afternoon.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Hey, Rich.
Tom Baltimore: Hey, Rich.
Rich Hightower: Hey, Tom. Maybe just to repackage some of the prior lines of questioning, Tom, you did mention that the private market bid for luxury and leisure is still fairly competitive, certainly relative to what else exists in hotels. Maybe tell us what you're seeing in general terms there, and then as a second part of that, is there any structural impediment to monetizing at some point even one of the core hotels, given the strength of that private market bid, if that is indeed the case?
Rich Hightower: Hey, Tom. Maybe just to repackage some of the prior lines of questioning, Tom, you did mention that the private market bid for luxury and leisure is still fairly competitive, certainly relative to what else exists in hotels. Maybe tell us what you're seeing in general terms there, and then as a second part of that, is there any structural impediment to monetizing at some point even one of the core hotels, given the strength of that private market bid, if that is indeed the case?
Speaker #8: Certainly, relative to what else exists in hotels. Maybe tell us what you’re seeing in general terms there. And then, as a second part of that, is there any structural impediment to monetizing at some point even one of the core hotels, given the strength of that private market bid, if that is indeed the case?
Speaker #7: Yeah. Richard, we've always said that the team is not entrenched and we're going to do what's in shareholders' best interest. We do get the occasional call about Hawaii.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Yeah. Rich, we've always said that the team is not entrenched, and we're going to do what's in shareholders' best interest. We do get occasional call about Hawaii. It's complicated to do a joint venture. Not impossible, but complicated. Generally, the response has been, if you want to buy Hawaii, buy the company. I repeat the statement that management nor the board are entrenched here. We will continue to look. I think we're all curious to see the former strategic portfolio is being marketed. I think it'll be interesting to see the pricing and how that unfolds, and we'll see what comes out of that. If that's a very healthy process and there's a lot of capital chasing, that's good for the sector. I think price discovery is a wonderful thing, and it may lead to other deals with other participants in our sector.
Tom Baltimore: Yeah. Rich, we've always said that the team is not entrenched, and we're going to do what's in shareholders' best interest. We do get occasional call about Hawaii. It's complicated to do a joint venture. Not impossible, but complicated. Generally, the response has been, if you want to buy Hawaii, buy the company. I repeat the statement that management nor the board are entrenched here. We will continue to look. I think we're all curious to see the former strategic portfolio is being marketed. I think it'll be interesting to see the pricing and how that unfolds, and we'll see what comes out of that. If that's a very healthy process and there's a lot of capital chasing, that's good for the sector. I think price discovery is a wonderful thing, and it may lead to other deals with other participants in our sector.
Speaker #7: It's complicated to do a joint venture—not impossible, but complicated. And generally, the response has been, if you want to buy Hawaii, buy the company.
Speaker #7: And I repeat the statement that neither management nor the Board are entrenched here. But we will continue to look. I think we're all curious to see the former strategic portfolio is being marketed.
Speaker #7: I think it'll be interesting to see the pricing and how that unfolds. We'll see what comes out of that. If that's a very healthy process and there's a lot of capital chasing, that's good for the sector.
Speaker #7: I think price discovery is a wonderful thing, and it may lead to other deals with other participants in our sector. So we're excited to continue to watch and observe, and see how that unfolds.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We're excited to continue to watch and observe and see how that unfolds. We're not directly participating at this time. Hopefully, you've known, Rich, if you looked at our portfolio, our performance, you've looked at our messaging. I think it speaks for itself in how the Park team is performing vis-a-vis what we've communicated.
Tom Baltimore: We're excited to continue to watch and observe and see how that unfolds. We're not directly participating at this time. Hopefully, you've known, Rich, if you looked at our portfolio, our performance, you've looked at our messaging. I think it speaks for itself in how the Park team is performing vis-a-vis what we've communicated.
Speaker #7: We're not directly participating at this time. Hopefully, you know Rich if you've looked at our portfolio or performance—if you've looked at our messaging, I think it speaks for itself.
Speaker #7: And how the Park team is performing vis-à-vis what we've communicated.
Speaker #1: And our next question will come from Jack Armstrong with Wells Fargo.
Operator: Our next question will come from Jack Armstrong with Wells Fargo.
Operator: Our next question will come from Jack Armstrong with Wells Fargo.
Speaker #8: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Can you talk through the operating expense expectations, coming up 60 basis points relative to RevPAR of $225 for the full year?
Jack Armstrong: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question.
Jack Armstrong: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question.
Jack Armstrong: Hey, Jack.
Tom Baltimore: Hey, Jack.
Jack Armstrong: Can you talk through the operating expense expectations coming up 50 basis points relative to RevPAR of 225 for the full year? What were some of the expense controls that brought you to that result, and can you talk through some of the changes in those expense components versus your prior expectations?
Jack Armstrong: Can you talk through the operating expense expectations coming up 50 basis points relative to RevPAR of 225 for the full year? What were some of the expense controls that brought you to that result, and can you talk through some of the changes in those expense components versus your prior expectations?
Speaker #8: What were some of the expense controls that brought you to that result? And can you talk through some of the changes in those expense components versus your prior expectations?
Speaker #4: Hey, Jack. I read the Sean—I mean, I think, I mean, look, I think as we think through the—we certainly passed through what we saw in Q2. Fundamentally, on the expense side, which was the biggest driver, was really the odd gains that we saw.
Sean Dell'Orto: Hey, Jack. How are you? This is Sean. I think as we think through, we certainly passed through what we saw in Q2 fundamentally on the expense side, which was the biggest driver, was really the occ gains that we saw. Occupancy was about two-thirds at least of the RevPAR growth and about 75% of the year-to-date growth. With a backdrop of about 2% growth on a cost per occupied room basis, we certainly saw a little bit of elevated expense there along with the elevated RevPAR. Given this, though, we were pretty pleased with the flow-through as we look at comparisons to the prior forecast, with flow-through for rooms greater than 70%, and F&B was really strong at 65. I think year-to-date increase thus far
Sean Dell'Orto: Hey, Jack. How are you? This is Sean. I think as we think through, we certainly passed through what we saw in Q2 fundamentally on the expense side, which was the biggest driver, was really the occ gains that we saw. Occupancy was about two-thirds at least of the RevPAR growth and about 75% of the year-to-date growth. With a backdrop of about 2% growth on a cost per occupied room basis, we certainly saw a little bit of elevated expense there along with the elevated RevPAR. Given this, though, we were pretty pleased with the flow-through as we look at comparisons to the prior forecast, with flow-through for rooms greater than 70%, and F&B was really strong at 65. I think year-to-date increase thus far
Speaker #4: I mean, occupancy was about two-thirds, at least, of the RevPAR growth and about 75% of the year-to-date growth. So, with a backdrop of about 2% growth on a cost-per-occupied room basis, we certainly saw a little bit elevated expense there, along with the elevated RevPAR.
Speaker #4: I mean, given this, though, we were pretty pleased with the flow-through. As we look at comparisons to the prior forecast, the flow-through for rooms, greater than 70%, and in F&B, it was really strong at 65%.
Speaker #4: So I think year-to-date increase in, thus far for expenses, is about the midpoint of our guide. And that certainly led to the back half being around the same amount, kind of midpoint of that three to four.
Sean Dell'Orto: For expenses about the midpoint of our guide, that certainly leads to the back half being around the same amount, midpoint of that 3 to 4. I would say, though, in the back half, if you think about the back half, included in that is about 120 basis point contribution from Royal Palm as it ramps back up, and it obviously brings on operating expenses above the carrier that we had, just the basic carrier we had last year. I think overall, I think we've been pleased. I think certainly it comes as you see some of these things come through. Always a focus on cost controls with the managers. They did a pretty good job, in the end, you're going to have more occupancy, more heads and beds.
Sean Dell'Orto: For expenses about the midpoint of our guide, that certainly leads to the back half being around the same amount, midpoint of that 3 to 4. I would say, though, in the back half, if you think about the back half, included in that is about 120 basis point contribution from Royal Palm as it ramps back up, and it obviously brings on operating expenses above the carrier that we had, just the basic carrier we had last year. I think overall, I think we've been pleased. I think certainly it comes as you see some of these things come through. Always a focus on cost controls with the managers. They did a pretty good job, in the end, you're going to have more occupancy, more heads and beds.
Speaker #4: I would say, though, in the back—if you think about the back half—included in that is about a 120 basis point contribution from Royal Palm as it ramps back up and obviously brings on operating expenses above the carry that we had, just the basic carry we had last year.
Speaker #4: So I think overall, we've been pleased. I think certainly, as you see some of these things come through, there's always a focus on cost controls with our managers.
Speaker #4: They did a pretty good job. But in the end, you're going to have more occupancy, more heads in beds. You're going to see certainly more labor come, and we know that labor is certainly in that 4% to 5% kind of growth range.
Sean Dell'Orto: You're going to see certainly more labor come, and we know that labor is certainly in that 4% to 5% kind of growth range. Managing through that, I think they did a pretty effective job with flow-through, we certainly expect them to continue to do that.
Sean Dell'Orto: You're going to see certainly more labor come, and we know that labor is certainly in that 4% to 5% kind of growth range. Managing through that, I think they did a pretty effective job with flow-through, we certainly expect them to continue to do that.
Speaker #4: So, kind of managing through that, I think they did a pretty effective job with flow-through, and we certainly expect them to continue to do that.
Speaker #1: And we'll go next to Michael Herring with Green Street Capital.
Operator: We'll go next to Michael Herring with Green Street.
Operator: We'll go next to Michael Herring with Green Street.
Speaker #9: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up on Bonnet Creek, you obviously mentioned that the RevPAR index shares have been pretty strong there.
Michael Herring: Hi, thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up on Bonnet Creek, obviously mentioning that the RevPAR index shares have been pretty strong there. Are there any external factors such as competitive supply or other hotels in the market that were under renovation that might weigh on the near-term growth?
Michael Herring: Hi, thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up on Bonnet Creek, obviously mentioning that the RevPAR index shares have been pretty strong there. Are there any external factors such as competitive supply or other hotels in the market that were under renovation that might weigh on the near-term growth?
Speaker #9: Are there any external factors, such as competitive supply or other hotels in the market that were under renovation, that might weigh on the near-term growth?
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: Not that we're aware of. We love our positioning at Bonnet Creek, obviously it's a competitive marketplace for sure. I'd also make, if you think about destinations, people sometimes forget that Orlando is the most visited destination in the country. I think expected 77 to 79 million visitors this year alone. I think Vegas is around 45 million. I think New York is about 67 million, plus or minus. Love our positioning there with the three assets that we have, particularly Bonnet Creek and the $220 million that we've put in. As I mentioned earlier, what we've seen both in ramp-up, both in where EBITDA has gone, where we see market share. The irony is that market share, again, we're still not back to fair share given that competitive landscape.
Tom Baltimore: Not that we're aware of. We love our positioning at Bonnet Creek, obviously it's a competitive marketplace for sure. I'd also make, if you think about destinations, people sometimes forget that Orlando is the most visited destination in the country. I think expected 77 to 79 million visitors this year alone. I think Vegas is around 45 million. I think New York is about 67 million, plus or minus. Love our positioning there with the three assets that we have, particularly Bonnet Creek and the $220 million that we've put in. As I mentioned earlier, what we've seen both in ramp-up, both in where EBITDA has gone, where we see market share. The irony is that market share, again, we're still not back to fair share given that competitive landscape.
Speaker #7: Not that we're aware of. We love our positioning at Bonnet Creek, and obviously, it's a competitive marketplace for sure. I'd also note, if you think about destinations—and people sometimes forget—that Orlando is the most visited destination in the country.
Speaker #7: I think they expect 77 to 79 million visitors this year alone. I think Vegas is around 45 million. I think New York is about 67 million, plus or minus.
Speaker #7: So love our positioning there with the three assets that we have, particularly Bonnet Creek. And the 220 million that we've put in. And as I mentioned earlier, what we've seen both in ramp-up, both in where EBITDA has gone, where we see market share, the irony is that market share, again, we're still not back to fair share.
Speaker #7: Given that competitive landscape. So we are very bullish that we think there's even additional upside there. And are excited about the future for Bonnet Creek as we look to the future.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We are very bullish that we think there's even additional upside there and are excited about the future for Bonnet Creek as we look to the future.
Tom Baltimore: We are very bullish that we think there's even additional upside there and are excited about the future for Bonnet Creek as we look to the future.
Speaker #1: And this now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Tom Baltimore for closing comments.
Operator: This now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Tom Baltimore for closing comments.
Operator: This now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Tom Baltimore for closing comments.
Speaker #7: We appreciate everyone's time today. We look forward to seeing many of you at upcoming conferences, and we look forward to hosting you at Royal Palm for our investor tour in November.
Thomas J. Baltimore, Jr.: We appreciate everyone's time today. We look forward to seeing many of you in upcoming conferences, and we look forward to hosting you at Royal Palm in our investor tour in November. Safe travels.
Tom Baltimore: We appreciate everyone's time today. We look forward to seeing many of you in upcoming conferences, and we look forward to hosting you at Royal Palm in our investor tour in November. Safe travels.
Speaker #7: Safe travels.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.