Q2 2026 Landstar System Inc Earnings Call

July 28, 2026

Operator: Good afternoon, and welcome to Landstar System, Inc. Q2 earnings release conference call. All lines will be in a listen-only mode until the formal question-and-answer session. Today's call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Joining us today from Landstar are Frank Lonegro, President and CEO; Jim Applegate, Vice President and Chief Corporate Sales, Strategy, and Specialized Freight Officer; Jim Todd, Vice President and CFO; Matt Miller, Vice President and Chief Safety and Operations Officer. Now I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Jim Todd. Sir, you may begin.

Speaker #1: Good afternoon, and welcome to the Landstar System Inc. Q4 earnings release conference call. All lines will be in listen-only mode until the formal question-and-answer session.

Speaker #1: Today's call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Joining us today from Landstar are Frank Lonegro, President and CEO; Jim Applegate, Vice President and Chief Corporate Sales Strategy and Specialized Spirit Officer; Jim Todd, Vice President and CFO; and Matt Miller, Vice President and Chief Safety and Operations Officer. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Jim Todd.

Speaker #1: Sir, you may begin.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Arlene. Good afternoon, and welcome to Landstar's Q2 2026 earnings conference call. Before we begin, let me read the following statement. The following is a safe harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Jim Todd: Thanks, Arlene. Good afternoon, and welcome to Landstar's 2026 Q2 earnings conference call. Before we begin, let me read the following statement. The following is a safe harbor statement on the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements made during this conference call that are not based on historical facts are forward-looking statements. During this conference call, we may make statements that contain forward-looking information that relate to Landstar's business objectives, plans, strategies, and expectations. Such information is by nature subject to uncertainties and risks, including, but not limited to, the operational, financial, and legal risks detailed in Landstar's Form 10-K for the 2025 fiscal year, described in the section Risk Factors and our other SEC filings from time to time. These risks and uncertainties could cause actual results or events to differ materially from historical results or those anticipated.

Speaker #2: Statements made during this conference call that are not based on historical facts are forward-looking statements. During this conference call, we may make statements that contain forward-looking information that relate to Landstar's business objectives, plans, strategies, and expectations.

Speaker #2: Such information is, by nature, subject to uncertainties and risks, including but not limited to the operational, financial, and legal risks detailed in Landstar's Form 10-K for the 2025 fiscal year, as described in the section Risk Factors and our other SEC filings from time to time.

Speaker #2: These risks and uncertainties could cause actual results or events to differ materially from historical results or those anticipated. Investors should not place undue reliance on such forward-looking information, and Landstar undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking information.

Jim Todd: Investors should not place undue reliance on such forward-looking information, Landstar undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking information. I'll now pass it to Landstar CEO, Frank Lonegro, for his opening remarks.

Speaker #2: I'll now pass it to Landstar's CEO, Frank Lonegro, for his opening remarks.

Speaker #3: Thanks, JT, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to thank our BCOs and agents, and all of the Landstar employees who support them every day.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, JT. Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to thank our BCOs and agents and all of the Landstar employees who support them every day. It was great to spend time with our Million Mile Safe Drivers and Roadstar Honorees at our annual BCO All-Star Celebration earlier this month in Orlando and to celebrate their incredible safety accomplishments. It was my honor to preside over Landstar's 53rd truck giveaway, awarding Million Mile Safe Driver and Roadstar Honoree Herman Burgueno from Haskell, Texas, with a new 2027 Peterbilt 579. The capability, resiliency, and level of commitment exhibited day in and day out by our network of independent business owners is unique in the freight transportation industry. Their dedication to safety, security, and service is one of the pillars of success at Landstar. They are exceptional business leaders and key to driving the continued success of Landstar's business model.

Speaker #3: It was great to spend time with our million-mile safe drivers and Roadstar honorees at our annual BCO All-Star event earlier this month in Orlando.

Speaker #3: And to celebrate their incredible safety accomplishments, it was my honor to preside over Landstar's 53rd Truck Giveaway, awarding million-mile safe driver and Road Star honoree Herman Bergüeno from Haskell, Texas, with a new 2027 Peterbilt 579.

Speaker #3: The capability, resiliency, and level of commitment exhibited day in and day out by our network of independent business owners is unique in the freight transportation industry. Their dedication to safety, security, and service is one of the pillars of success at Landstar.

Speaker #3: They are exceptional business leaders and key to driving the continued success of Landstar's business model. I was very pleased with the revenue and variable contribution performance during Q2 2026, but the quarter was not without challenges that required our focus and attention.

Frank Lonegro: I was very pleased with our revenue and variable contribution performance during the 2026 Q2. The quarter was not without challenges that required our focus and attention. We had a challenging insurance and claims quarter, with approximately ten and a half million dollars of net unfavorable adjustment to prior year claims estimates. The prior year development experienced during the quarter was almost entirely attributable to five specific claims, three of which were truck brokerage claims. We believe greater federal clarity around carrier vetting and selection standards would help support a more predictable operations, insurance, and claims environment for truck brokers, carriers, and shippers. Transitioning to overall performance, revenue was up 18% year over year.

Speaker #3: We had a challenging insurance and claims quarter, with approximately $10.5 million of net unfavorable adjustment to prior year claims estimates. The prior year development experienced during the quarter was almost entirely attributable to five specific claims, three of which were truck brokerage claims.

Speaker #3: We believe greater federal clarity around carrier vetting and selection standards would help support a more predictable operations, insurance, and claims environment for truck brokers, carriers, and shippers.

Speaker #3: Transitioning to overall performance, revenue was up 18% year over year. As noted in our earnings release, our Q2 revenue per truckload and the number of loads hauled via truck both outperformed pre-pandemic typical seasonality, and the net BCO truck count performance was the strongest quarterly improvement since the first quarter of 2022.

Frank Lonegro: As noted in our earnings release, our Q2 revenue per truck load and the number of loads hauled via truck both outperformed pre-pandemic typical seasonality. The net BCO truck count performance was the strongest quarterly improvement since the Q1 2022. In one continued major bright spot, I am extremely pleased with the performance of Landstar's heavy haul service offering. We generated approximately $164 million of heavy haul revenue during the 2026 Q2, an 18% increase over the 2025 Q2. This achievement was driven by a 9% increase in heavy haul volume and an 8% increase in heavy haul revenue per load. Notwithstanding the geopolitical uncertainty experienced thus far in 2026, our focus continues to be on accelerating our business model and executing on our strategic growth initiatives.

Speaker #3: In one continued major bright spot, I am extremely pleased with the performance of Landstar's heavy haul service offering. We generated approximately $164 million of heavy haul revenue during the 2026 Q2—an 18% increase over the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #3: This achievement was driven by a 9% increase in heavy haul volume and an 8% increase in heavy haul revenue per load. Notwithstanding the geopolitical uncertainty experienced thus far in 2026, our focus continues to be on accelerating our business model and executing on our strategic growth initiatives.

Speaker #3: We are continuing to invest in the foundational work that puts Landstar in a great position to leverage improving freight market conditions. We also remain focused on our commitment to continuous improvement in the level of service and support we provide to our customers, agents, BCOs, and carriers each and every day.

Frank Lonegro: We are continuing to invest in the foundational work that puts Landstar in a great position to leverage improving freight market conditions. We also remain focused on our commitment to continuous improvement in the level of service and support we provide to our customers, agents, BCOs, and carriers each and every day. On the new agent front, we were thrilled to welcome an $18 million freight broker from the Midwest to our agent network earlier this month. This represents one of the largest new agent signings in the past 15 years. Inbound interest and conversations with potential new agents has accelerated since the Montgomery decision was released in mid-May. We believe the value proposition of becoming a Landstar independent agent has never been stronger.

Speaker #3: On the new agent front, we were thrilled to welcome an $18 million freight broker from the Midwest to our agent network earlier this month.

Speaker #3: This represents one of the largest new agent signings in the past 15 years. Inbound interest and conversations with potential new agents have accelerated since the Montgomery decision was released in mid-May.

Speaker #3: We believe the value proposition of becoming a Landstar independent agent has never been stronger. Turning to slide 5, the freight environment in the 2026 Q2 was characterized by solid demand from a seasonal perspective, with the number of loads hauled via truck slightly outpacing normal seasonal patterns—the first time this has been achieved in Q2 since 2021.

Frank Lonegro: Turning to slide five, the freight environment in the 2026 Q2 was characterized by solid demand from a seasonal perspective, with the number of loads hauled via truck slightly outpacing normal seasonal patterns, the first time this has been achieved in the Q2 since 2021. This volume performance in the Q2 supports the ISM Index readings from earlier this year, with the ISM Index above 50 for all six months of 2026. Truck capacity tightened significantly during the quarter, as evidenced by the very strong sequential truck revenue per load performance, coupled with a 129 basis point compression in our brokerage net revenue margin sequentially. Market conditions, which have favored the shipper since late 2022, have begun shifting rather rapidly in favor of the transportation provider.

Speaker #3: This volume performance in Q2 supports the ISM index readings from earlier this year, with the ISM index above 50 for all six months of 2026.

Speaker #3: Truck capacity tightened significantly during the quarter, as evidenced by the very strong sequential truck revenue per load performance, coupled with a 129 basis point compression in our brokerage net revenue margin sequentially.

Speaker #3: Market conditions, which have favored the shipper since late 2022, have begun shifting rather rapidly in favor of the transportation provider. Considering that backdrop, Landstar's revenue performance was strong in the 2026 Q2, with truck revenue per load 17% above the 2025 Q2 and the number of loads hauled via truck up nearly 2% over the same period.

Frank Lonegro: Considering that backdrop, Landstar's revenue performance was strong in the Q2 2026, with truck revenue per load 17% above the Q2 2025, and the number of loads hauled via truck up nearly 2% over the same period. Our balance sheet continues to be very strong, and our capital allocation priorities are unchanged. We will continue to patiently and opportunistically execute on our existing buyback authority to benefit our long-term stockholders. As noted in the slide deck, during the H1 2026, the company returned approximately $120 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Yesterday afternoon, our board declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.44 per share, payable on 9 September to stockholders of record as of the close of business on 18 August.

Speaker #3: Our balance sheet continues to be very strong, and our capital allocation priorities are unchanged. We will continue to patiently and opportunistically execute on our existing buyback authority to benefit our long-term stockholders.

Speaker #3: As noted in the slide deck, during the first half of 2026, the company returned approximately $120 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases.

Speaker #3: And yesterday afternoon, our Board declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.44 per share, payable on September 9 to stockholders of record as of the close of business on August 18.

Speaker #3: This quarterly dividend includes a 10% increase over the amount of the company's regular dividend declared following each of the prior five quarters. We continue to invest through the cycle in leading technology and AI solutions for the benefit of our network of independent business owners, and have allocated a significant amount of capital this year toward refreshing our fleet of trailing equipment, with a particular focus on investing in new van equipment.

Frank Lonegro: This quarterly dividend includes a 10% increase over the amount of the company's regular dividend declared following each of the prior five quarters. We continue to invest through the cycle in leading technology and AI solutions for the benefit of our network of independent business owners and have allocated a significant amount of capital this year towards refreshing our fleet of trailing equipment, with a particular focus on investing in new van equipment. Turning to slide seven and looking at our network, the scale, systems, and support inherent in the Landstar model helped to drive the operating results generated during the Q2 2026. JT will get into the details on revenue, loadings, and rate per load in a few moments. Safety is critical to our continued success.

Speaker #3: Turning to slide 7 and looking at our network, the scale, systems, and support inherent in the Landstar model helped to drive the operating results generated during the 2026 Q2.

Speaker #3: JT will get into the details on revenue, loadings, and rate per load in a few moments. Safety is critical to our continued success. Our safety performance is a direct result of the professionalism of the thousands of Landstar BCOs operating safely every day, and the agents and employees who support the critical importance of safety, security, and service at Landstar.

Frank Lonegro: Our safety performance is a direct result of the professionalism of the thousands of Landstar BCOs operating safely every day and the agents and employees who support the critical importance of safety, security, and service at Landstar. I'm proud to report an accident frequency rate of 0.62 DOT reportable accidents per million miles during the H1 2026, well below the last available national average DOT reportable frequency rate released by the FMCSA for 2021 and lower than the 0.67 DOT accident frequency we reported during the H1 2025. The company's long-run average is an impressive operating metric that speaks to the strength, skill, talent, and dedication of our BCOs and provide the point of differentiation our agents are able to highlight in discussions with our freight customers. We remain committed to driving a best-in-class safety culture.

Speaker #3: I'm proud to report an accident frequency rate of 0.62 DOT-reportable accidents per million miles during the 2026 half, well below the last available national average DOT-reportable frequency rate released by the FMCSA for 2021, and lower than the 0.67 DOT accident frequency we reported during the 2025 half. The company's long-run average is an impressive operating metric that speaks to the strength, skill, talent, and dedication of our BCOs, and provides a point of differentiation our agents are able to highlight in discussions with our freight customers.

Speaker #3: We remain committed to driving a best-in-class safety culture. I'd also like to take a moment to recognize Landstar's $457 million agents, based on our 2025 fiscal year results—a number we would expect to increase in 2026.

Frank Lonegro: I'd also like to take a moment to recognize Landstar's 457 million-dollar agents based on our 2025 fiscal year results, a number we would expect to increase in 2026. Importantly, retention within the million-dollar agent network continues to be extremely high. Turning to slide eight, on a year-over-year basis, BCO truck count decreased by less than 1% compared to the end of the Q2 2025, but increased approximately 80 basis points sequentially. As noted above, our net 68 truck additions during the second quarter was the strongest quarterly improvement since the Q1 2022. Continuing that sequential trend, our BCO truck count has also increased during the first four weeks of the Q3 2026. We were also very pleased to see our trailing 12-month BCO truck turnover rate drop from 31.4% as of fiscal year-end 2025 to 28.3% at the end of the Q2 2026.

Speaker #3: Importantly, retention within the Million Dollar Agent Network continues to be extremely high. Turning to slide 8, on a year-over-year basis, BCO truck count decreased by less than 1% compared to the end of the 2025 Q2 but increased approximately 80 basis points sequentially.

Speaker #3: As noted above, our net 68 truck additions during Q2 was the strongest quarterly improvement since the first quarter of 2022. Continuing that sequential trend, our BCO truck count has also increased during the first four weeks of the 2026 fiscal Q3.

Speaker #3: We were also very pleased to see our trailing 12-month BCO truck turnover rate drop from 31.4% as of fiscal year-end 2025 to 28.3% at the end of Q2 2026.

Speaker #3: This is a positive trend that we hope will continue into the third quarter. I'll now pass the call back to JT to walk you through the Q2 2026 financials in more detail.

Frank Lonegro: This is a positive trend that we hope will continue into Q3. I'll now pass the call back to JT to walk you through the 2026 Q2 financials in more detail.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Frank. Turning to slide 10, as Frank mentioned earlier, overall truck revenue per load increased 17% in Q2 2026 compared to Q2 2025, primarily attributable to a 19.9% increase in revenue per load on loads hauled via platform equipment and a 15.8% increase in revenue per load on loads hauled via van equipment.

Jim Todd: Thanks, Frank. Turning to slide 10. As Frank mentioned earlier, overall truck revenue per load increased 17% in the 2026 Q2 compared to the 2025 Q2, primarily attributable to a 19.9% increase in revenue per load on loads hauled by unsided platform equipment and a 15.8% increase in revenue per load on loads hauled by van equipment. On a sequential basis, truck revenue per load increased 14.4% in the 2026 Q2 versus the 2026 Q1. That represents the largest sequential increase in truck revenue per load over the past 15 years, edging out the 13.5% sequential increase experienced during the 2020 Q3. In comparison to overall truck revenue per load, we consider revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCO trucks a pure reflection of market pricing, as it excludes fuel surcharges billed to customers that are paid 100% to the BCO.

Speaker #2: On a sequential basis, truck revenue per load increased 14.4% in 2026 Q2 versus 2026 Q1. That represents the largest sequential increase in truck revenue per load over the past 15 years, edging out the 13.5% sequential increase experienced during 2020 Q3.

Speaker #2: In comparison to overall truck revenue per load, we consider revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCO trucks a pure reflection of market pricing, as it excludes fuel surcharges billed to customers that are paid 100% to the BCO.

Speaker #2: In the 2026 Q2, revenue per mile on on-site or platform equipment hauled by BCOs was 10% above the 2025 Q2, and revenue per mile on van equipment hauled by BCOs was 11% above the 2025 Q2.

Jim Todd: In the 2026 Q2, revenue per mile on unsided platform equipment hauled by BCOs was 10% above the 2025 Q2, and revenue per mile on van equipment hauled by BCOs was 11% above the 2025 Q2. Delving deeper into seasonal trends, revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCOs on unsided platform equipment increased 5% from March to April, increased 2% from April to May, and increased 6% from May to June. Importantly, this sequential month-to-month performance as we move through Q2 when compared against typical pre-pandemic trends suggests positive momentum in this aspect of our business. In fact, revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCOs on unsided platform equipment outperformed typical pre-pandemic trends in each month during Q2.

Speaker #2: Delving deeper into seasonal trends, revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCOs on or using platform equipment increased 5% from March to April, increased 2% from April to May, and increased 6% from May to June.

Speaker #2: Importantly, this sequential month-to-month performance as we move through Q2, when compared against typical pre-pandemic trends, suggests positive momentum in this aspect of our business.

Speaker #2: In fact, revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCOs on onsite platform equipment outperformed typical pre-pandemic trends in each month during the Q2.

Speaker #2: Turning to van freight, revenue per mile on van equipment hauled by BCOs increased 3% from March to April, increased 3% from April to May, and increased 7% from May to June.

Jim Todd: Turning to van freight, revenue per mile on van equipment hauled by BCOs increased 3% from March to April, increased 3% from April to May, and increased 7% from May to June. Similar to the unsided platform revenue per mile, revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCOs on van equipment outperformed typical pre-pandemic trends in each month during Q2. It should be noted the month-to-month seasonal trends on unsided platform equipment are generally more volatile compared to that of van equipment. This relative volatility is often due to the mix between heavy specialized loads and standard flatbed volume. As Frank alluded to, we've been particularly pleased with the sustained strong performance of our heavy haul service offering.

Speaker #2: Similar to the on-site platform revenue per mile, revenue per mile on loads hauled by BCOs on van equipment outperformed typical pre-pandemic trends in each month during Q2.

Speaker #2: It should be noted that the month-to-month seasonal trends in on-site or platform equipment are generally more volatile compared to those of van equipment. This relative volatility is often due to the mix between heavy specialized loads and standard flatbed volume.

Speaker #2: As Frank alluded to, we've been particularly pleased with the sustained strong performance of our heavy haul service offering. Heavy haul revenue was up 18% year over year in Q2, heavy haul loadings were up 9% year over year, and revenue per heavy haul load increased 8% year over year.

Jim Todd: Heavy haul revenue was up 18% year over year in the Q2, heavy haul loadings were up 9% year over year, and revenue per heavy haul load increased 8% year over year. Non-truck transportation service revenue in the 2026 Q2 was 6% or $5 million above the 2025 Q2. The increase in non-truck transportation revenue was mostly due to a 50% increase in air revenue per load and a 16% increase in intermodal pricing. Turning to slide 11, we've provided revenue share by commodity and year-over-year change in revenue by commodity. Transportation Logistics segment revenue was up 18% year over year on a 16% increase in revenue per load and a 2% increase in volume compared to the 2025 Q2.

Jim Todd: Heavy haul revenue was up 18% year-over-year in the Q2, heavy haul loadings were up 9% year-over-year, and revenue per heavy haul load increased 8% year-over-year. Non-truck transportation service revenue in the 2026 Q2 was 6% or $5 million above the 2025 Q2. The increase in non-truck transportation revenue was mostly due to a 50% increase in air revenue per load and a 16% increase in intermodal pricing. Turning to slide 11, we've provided revenue share by commodity and year-over-year change in revenue by commodity. Transportation Logistics segment revenue was up 18% year-over-year on a 16% increase in revenue per load and a 2% increase in volume compared to the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: Non-truck transportation service revenue in the 2026 Q2 was 6%, or $5 million, above the 2025 Q2. The increase in non-truck transportation revenue was mostly due to a 50% increase in air revenue per load and a 16% increase in intermodal pricing.

Speaker #2: Turn to slide 11. We provided revenue share by commodity and year-over-year change in revenue by commodity. Transportation logistics segment revenue was up 18% year over year, on a 16% increase in revenue per load and a 2% increase in volume compared to Q2 2025.

Speaker #2: Within our largest commodity category, consumer durables, revenue increased 24% year over year on a 23% increase in revenue per load, and a 2% increase in volume.

Jim Todd: Within our largest commodity category, consumer durables revenue increased 24% year over year on a 23% increase in revenue per load and a 2% increase in volume. Aggregate revenue across our top five commodity categories, which collectively make up about 69% of our transportation revenue, increased approximately 20% compared to the 2025 Q2. While slide 11 displays revenue share by commodity, we thought it would also be helpful to include some color on volume performance within our top commodity categories. From the 2025 Q2 to the 2026 Q2, total loadings and machinery increased 2%, automotive equipment and parts decreased 1%, building products increased 8%, and electrical loadings increased 31%. Even with the ups and downs in various customer categories, our business remains highly diversified with over 20,000 customers, none of which contributed over 8% of our revenue in the 2026 H1. Turning to slide 12.

Jim Todd: Within our largest commodity category, consumer durables revenue increased 24% year-over-year on a 23% increase in revenue per load and a 2% increase in volume. Aggregate revenue across our top five commodity categories, which collectively make up about 69% of our transportation revenue, increased approximately 20% compared to the 2025 Q2. While slide 11 displays revenue share by commodity, we thought it would also be helpful to include some color on volume performance within our top commodity categories. From the 2025 Q2 to the 2026 Q2, total loadings and machinery increased 2%, automotive equipment and parts decreased 1%, building products increased 8%, and electrical loadings increased 31%. Even with the ups and downs in various customer categories, our business remains highly diversified with over 20,000 customers, none of which contributed over 8% of our revenue in the 2026 H1. Turning to slide 12.

Speaker #2: Aggregate revenue across our top five commodity categories, which collectively make up about 69% of our transportation revenue, increased approximately 20% compared to Q2 2025.

Speaker #2: While slide 11 displays revenue share by commodity, we thought it would also be helpful to include some color on volume performance within our top commodity categories.

Speaker #2: From Q2 2025 to Q2 2026, total loadings of machinery increased 2%, automotive equipment and parts decreased 1%, building products increased 8%, and electrical loadings increased 31%.

Speaker #2: Even with the ups and downs in various customer categories, our business remains highly diversified, with over 20,000 customers—none of which contributed over 8% of our revenue in the first half of 2026.

Speaker #2: Turn to slide 12. In the 2026 Q2, gross profit was $132.3 million compared to gross profit of $109.3 million in the 2025 Q2. Gross profit margin was 9.2% of revenue in the 2026 Q2, as compared to a gross profit margin of 9% in the corresponding period of 2025.

Jim Todd: In the 2026 Q2, gross profit was $132.3 million, compared to gross profit of $109.3 million in the 2025 Q2. Gross profit margin was 9.2% of revenue in the 2026 Q2, as compared to gross profit margin of 9% in the corresponding period of 2025. In the 2026 Q2, variable contribution was $199.4 million, compared to $170.5 million in the 2025 Q2. Variable contribution margin was 13.9% of revenue in the 2026 Q2, compared to 14.1% in the same period last year.

Speaker #2: In Q2 2026, variable contribution was $199.4 million compared to $170.5 million in Q2 2025. Variable contribution margin was 13.9% of revenue in Q2 2026, compared to 14.1% in the same period last year.

Speaker #2: The decrease in variable contribution margin compared to the 2025 period was primarily due to decreased variable contribution margin on revenue generated by truck brokerage carriers, as the rate paid to truck brokerage carriers was 136 basis points higher than the rate paid in 2025 Q2.

Jim Todd: The decrease in variable contribution margin compared to the 2025 period was primarily due to decreased variable contribution margin on revenue generated by truck brokerage carriers, as the rate paid to truck brokerage carriers was 136 basis points higher than the rate paid in the 2025 Q2, partially offset by an increase in the percentage of revenue generated from BCO independent contractors. Turning to slide 13, operating income decreased as a percentage of gross profit due to higher selling, general, and administrative costs in the 2026 Q2. Operating income increased by approximately 20 basis points as a percentage of variable contribution. Other operating costs were $17.9 million in the 2026 Q2, compared to $19.6 million in 2025.

Speaker #2: Partially offset by an increase in the percentage of revenue generated from BCO independent contractors. Turn to slide 13. Operating income decreased as a percentage of gross profit due to higher selling, general, and administrative costs in the 2026 Q2.

Speaker #2: Operating income increased by approximately 20 basis points as a percentage of variable contribution. Other operating costs were $17.9 million in Q2 2026, compared to $19.6 million in 2025.

Speaker #2: This decrease was primarily due to the reclassification of the $4.8 million supply chain fraud charge established during the 2025 Q1 from customer bad debt to contractor bad debt during the 2025 Q2.

Jim Todd: This decrease was primarily due to the reclassification of the $4.8 million supply chain fraud charge established during the 2025 Q1 from customer bad debt to contractor bad debt during the 2025 Q2. Excluding the $4.8 million P&L reclassification, other operating costs increased approximately $3.2 million. This increase was primarily due to increased trailing equipment maintenance costs, increased trailing equipment rental costs, and decreased gains on disposal of used trailing equipment. Insurance and claims costs were $39.4 million in the 2026 Q2, compared to $30.4 million in 2025. Total insurance and claims costs were 7% of BCO revenue in the 2026 Q2, as compared to 6.6% in the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: Excluding the $4.8 million P&L reclassification, their operating costs increased approximately $3.2 million. This increase was primarily due to increased trailing equipment maintenance costs, increased trailing equipment rental costs, and decreased gains on disposal of used trailing equipment.

Speaker #2: Insurance and claims costs were $39.4 million in the 2026 Q2 compared to $30.4 million in 2025. Total insurance and claims costs were 7% of BCO revenue in the 2026 Q2, as compared to 6.6% in the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: The increase in insurance and claims costs, as compared to 2025, was primarily attributable to increased net unfavorable development of prior year claim estimates, increased BCO miles traveled during the 2026 period, and increased severity of current year trucking claims, partially offset by decreased frequency of both current year trucking claims and current year cargo claims.

Jim Todd: The increase in insurance and claims costs as compared to 2025 was primarily attributable to increased net unfavorable development of prior year claim estimates, increased BCO miles traveled during the 2026 period, increased severity of current year trucking claims, partially offset by decreased frequency of both current year trucking claims and current year cargo claims. During the 2026 and 2025 Q2s, insurance and claims costs included $10.5 million and $2.3 million of net unfavorable adjustment to prior year claim estimates, respectively. Selling, general, and administrative costs were $68.2 million in the 2026 Q2 compared to $55.7 million in the 2025 Q2. Excluding the impact of the previously mentioned $4.8 million reclassification, selling, general, and administrative costs increased approximately $7.7 million as compared to the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: During the 2026 and 2025 Q2, insurance and claims costs included $10.5 million and $2.3 million of net unfavorable adjustment to prior year claim estimates, respectively.

Speaker #2: Selling general and administrative costs were 68.2 million dollars in the 2026 Q2 compared to 55.7 million in the 2025 Q2. Excluding the impact of the previously mentioned 4.8 million dollar reclassification, selling general administrative costs increased approximately 7.7 million as compared to the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: The increase in selling, general, and administrative costs was primarily attributable to an increased provision for incentive compensation, increased stock-based compensation expense, and increased information technology project costs, partially offset by decreased employee benefit costs.

Jim Todd: The increase in selling, general, and administrative costs was primarily attributable to an increased provision for incentive compensation, increased stock-based compensation expense, and increased information technology project costs, partially offset by decreased employee benefit costs. The provision for incentive compensation was $6.4 million during the 2026 Q2 as compared to $1 million during the 2025 Q2. Depreciation and amortization was $10.4 million in the 2026 Q2 compared to $12.1 million in 2025. This decrease is primarily due to decreased depreciation on software applications and decreased depreciation on our fleet of trailing equipment. The effective income tax rate was 25.2% in the 2026 Q2 compared to an effective income tax rate of 24.6% in the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: The provision for incentive compensation was $6.4 million during 2026 Q2, as compared to $1 million during 2025 Q2. Depreciation and amortization was $10.4 million in 2026 Q2, compared to $12.1 million in 2025.

Speaker #2: This decrease was primarily due to decreased depreciation on software applications and decreased depreciation on our fleet of trailing equipment. The effective income tax rate was 25.2% in the 2026 Q2, compared to an effective income tax rate of 24.6% in the 2025 Q2.

Speaker #2: The increase in the effective income tax rate for Q2 2025 to Q2 2026 was primarily due to the impact of non-deductible executive compensation on the 2026 income tax provision.

Jim Todd: The increase in the effective income tax rate from the 2025 Q2 to the 2026 Q2 is primarily due to the impact of non-deductible executive compensation on the 2026 income tax provision. Turning to slide 14, looking at our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with cash and short-term investments of $348 million. Cash flow from operations for the 2026 H1 was $28 million, and cash capital expenditures were $9 million. It should be noted that free cash flow was negative during the 2026 Q2, given the sharp sequential revenue growth experienced. The 2026 Q2 negative free cash flow represents only the third negative free cash flow quarter in the past decade.

Speaker #2: Turn to slide 14. Looking at our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with cash and short-term investments of $348 million. Cash flow from operations for the 2026 half was $28 million, and cash capital expenditures were $9 million.

Speaker #2: It should be noted that free cash flow was negative during Q2 2026, given the sharp sequential revenue growth experienced. The Q2 2026 negative free cash flow represents only the third negative free cash flow quarter in the past decade.

Speaker #2: The other two comparable quarters were 2023 Q2, when the freight economy recovered strongly from the early impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, and 2017 Q4, when the ELD mandate took effect.

Jim Todd: The other two comparable quarters were the 2020 Q3, when the freight economy recovered strongly from the early impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, and the 2017 Q4, when the ELD mandate took effect. Despite the significant net working capital draw experience during the 2026 H1, the company continues to return significant amounts of capital back to stockholders with approximately $95 million of dividends paid and approximately $24 million of share repurchases during the 2026 H1. The strength of our balance sheet is a testament to the cash-generating capabilities of the Landstar model. Back to you, Frank.

Speaker #2: Despite the significant network and capital draw experienced during the first half of 2026, the company continues to return significant amounts of capital back to stockholders, with approximately $95 million of dividends paid and approximately $24 million of share repurchases during the 2026 first half.

Speaker #2: The strength of our balance sheet is a testament to the cash-generating capabilities of the Landstar model. Back to you, Frank.

Speaker #3: Thanks, JT. Before we jump into the current market update, I'd like to briefly touch on our press release from last Thursday. We're extremely excited to welcome transportation industry veteran Bill Clement as our new Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer, effective August 1st.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, JT. Before we jump into the current market update, I'd like to briefly touch on our press release from last Thursday. We're extremely excited to welcome transportation industry veteran William Clement as our new Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer, effective 1 August. Bill brings more than 30 years of transportation and logistics leadership experience with him to Landstar. We are eager to introduce Bill to our agent network over the coming weeks through a series of previously scheduled agent meetings throughout the country. Bill will be charged with supporting the success of our agent network, advancing customer relationships, and enhancing the effectiveness of the entire commercial organization. He will focus on accelerating growth across our strategic initiatives. Importantly, Bill has a proven track record of success in the transportation space.

Speaker #3: Bill brings more than 30 years of transportation and logistics leadership experience with him to Landstar. We are eager to introduce Bill to our agent network over the coming weeks through a series of previously scheduled agent meetings throughout the country.

Speaker #3: Bill will be charged with supporting the success of our agent network, advancing customer relationships, and enhancing the effectiveness of the entire commercial organization. In addition, he will focus on accelerating growth across our strategic initiatives.

Speaker #3: Importantly, Bill has a proven track record of success in the transportation space. He will be a tremendous addition to our organization in helping enhance our safety, security, and service value proposition to drive sustainable, profitable growth throughout our network.

Frank Lonegro: He will be a tremendous addition to our organization and help enhance our safety, security, and service value proposition to drive sustainable, profitable growth throughout our network. We're excited for Jim Applegate to step into his new role as Chief Strategy and Transformation Officer. This newly created position will leverage Jim's deep transportation and logistics experience and unique skill set as we strengthen our ability to deliver innovative solutions and create value for our agents, customers, capacity providers, and shareholders. Turning to slide 16, given the highly fluid freight transportation backdrop and an evolving geopolitical and macroeconomic environment, coupled with a highly volatile litigation and claims environment, the company will be providing Q3 financial and operational commentary rather than formal guidance.

Speaker #3: In addition, we're excited for Jim Applegate to step into his new role as Chief Strategy and Transformation Officer. This newly created position will leverage Jim's deep transportation and logistics experience and unique skill set as we strengthen our ability to deliver innovative solutions and create value for our agents, customers, capacity providers, and shareholders.

Speaker #3: Turning to slide 16, given the highly fluid freight transportation backdrop and an evolving geopolitical and macroeconomic environment, coupled with a highly volatile litigation and claims environment, the company will be providing Q3 financial and operational commentary rather than formal guidance.

Speaker #3: Looking at historical seasonality from Q2 to Q3, pre-pandemic patterns would normally be expected to yield a sequential increase of approximately 1.5% in truck revenue per load, but an approximately 1.5% decrease in the number of loads hauled via truck.

Frank Lonegro: Looking at historical seasonality from Q2 to Q3, pre-pandemic patterns would normally be expected to yield a sequential increase of approximately 1.5% in truck revenue per load, but an approximately 1.5% decrease in the number of loads hauled via truck, resulting in a relatively flat top line sequentially. Please also note that historically, the company has normally experienced a de minimis variance in variable contribution margin from the Q2 to the Q3. The number of loads hauled via truck in July 2026 was approximately 5% above July 2025 on a dispatch basis, and revenue per load was approximately 26% above July 2025 on a process basis. As a result, we view anticipated truck revenue per load in July as outperforming normal seasonality, while anticipated July truck volumes are trending slightly ahead of normal seasonality.

Speaker #3: Resulting in a relatively flat top line sequentially. Please also note that, historically, the company has normally experienced a de minimis variance in variable contribution margin from Q2 to Q3. The number of loads hauled via truck in July 2026 was approximately 5% above July 2025 on a dispatch basis, and revenue per load was approximately 26% above July 2025 on a process basis.

Speaker #3: As a result, we view anticipated truck revenue per load in July as outperforming normal seasonality, while anticipated July truck volumes are trending slightly ahead of normal seasonality.

Speaker #3: The slight seasonal outperformance in truck volumes during July was almost entirely attributable to a strong first week of fiscal July, driven in part by the timing of the 4th of July holiday. For context, the year-over-year truck volume increase during the last three weeks of fiscal July ranged from plus 1.5% to plus 3.5% on a dispatch basis.

Frank Lonegro: The slight seasonal outperformance in truck volumes during July was almost entirely attributable to a strong first week of fiscal July, driven in part by the timing of the Fourth of July holiday. For context, the year-over-year truck volume increase during the last three weeks of fiscal July ranged from plus 1.5% to plus 3.5% on a dispatch basis. We're excited to build upon the positive momentum generated during the H1 and are energized by the opportunity to support the best network of independent business owners in the transportation space, especially in an environment that after nearly four years, appears to have turned in our favor. With that, Arlene, we'd like to open the line for questions.

Speaker #3: We're excited to build upon the positive momentum generated during the first half, and are energized by the opportunity to support the best network of independent business owners in the transportation space—especially in an environment that, after nearly four years, appears to have turned in our favor.

Speaker #3: With that, Arlene, we'd like to open the line for questions.

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Scott Group: Hey, thanks. Afternoon, guys. I guess let's start maybe how you're thinking about the business post last week's, the nuclear verdict. How do you think about your insurance costs going forward? Do you worry big brokers are just going to be more at risk of these big litigations? Maybe what are the positives that you could argue are coming out of this in Montgomery? Is this good for your ability to get BCOs or gain share from small brokers? I don't know. Help us think through the pluses and minuses here.

Speaker #4: Hey, thanks. Good afternoon, guys. So I guess let's start with how you're thinking about the business post last week's nuclear verdict, and how you think about your insurance costs going forward.

Speaker #4: Do you worry big brokers are just going to be more at risk of these big litigations? And then maybe, what are the positives that you could argue are coming out of this? And Montgomery, is this good for your ability to get BCOs or gain share from small brokers?

Speaker #4: I don't know. Help us think through the pluses and minuses here.

Speaker #3: Yeah, no, that sounds good, Scott. Thanks. I anticipated that would come early on in the dialogue. Obviously, we watch what happens in litigation involving other brokers and other carriers just to get a pulse of what's happening in the environment.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah. No, that sounds good, Scott. Thanks. I anticipated that would come early on in the dialogue. Obviously, we watch what happens in litigation involving other brokers and other carriers just to get a pulse of what's happening in the environment. We have renewed our insurance tower for the next 12 months. That was effective June the 1st. We're in good shape there, feel like we are amply covered, and I think did quite well. I'll let Matt and JT talk a little bit more about that one. I think scale remains important. I think safety remains very important. The folks who are going to be successful in this environment in the post-Montgomery world are those that put safety, security, and service high on the list.

Speaker #3: We have renewed our insurance tower for the next 12 months. That was effective June 1st, so we’re in good shape there. I feel like we are amply covered, and I think we did quite well.

Speaker #3: I'll let Matt and J.T. talk a little bit more about that one. I think scale remains important. I think safety remains very important. The folks who are going to be successful in this environment, in a post-Montgomery world, are those that put safety, security, and service high on the list.

Speaker #3: And as you've heard us say for the last couple of years, those are the things that we think we're good at. They are also the things that give us the opportunity, when we do those well, to have our agents sell that to customers.

Frank Lonegro: As you've heard us say for the last couple of years, those are the things that we think we're good at, and were also the things that give us the opportunity when we do those well to have our agents sell that to customers. You heard us reference a new agent addition in the quarter, the Midwest broker that I mentioned of about $18 million. That dialogue started prior to Montgomery, but certainly under the possibility of an adverse verdict in Montgomery. I think that what you're seeing is an environment where small to medium-sized brokers are concerned about an existential risk. I think we're seeing our pipeline of potential agent candidates continue to increase and be, I'd say in the individualized case, a little bit larger than what we've done historically. We've generally played in the sub $5 million space for new agent additions.

Speaker #3: You heard us reference a new agent addition in the quarter. The Midwest broker that I mentioned of about $18 million—that dialogue started prior to Montgomery, but certainly under the possibility of an adverse verdict in Montgomery.

Speaker #3: So I think that what you're seeing is an environment where small- to medium-sized brokers are concerned about an existential risk. And I think we're seeing our pipeline of potential agent candidates continue to increase and be, I'd say, in the individualized case, a little bit larger than what we've done historically.

Speaker #3: If we generally played in the kind of sub-$5 million space for new agent additions, we're beginning to see traction in numbers that are higher than that.

Frank Lonegro: We're beginning to see traction in numbers that are higher than that. Matt, maybe a little bit on the insurance piece, and obviously your focus on safety I think will be important, and JT, obviously any commentary you want to provide.

Speaker #3: And that may be a little bit on the insurance piece. And obviously, you're focused on safety. I think it'd be important—and JT, obviously, any commentary you want to provide.

Speaker #4: Sure, sure. I appreciate that. I think it really reinforces why we're doing what we have been doing, with a focus on safety, security, and service.

Matt Miller: Sure. Appreciate that. I think it really reinforces why we're doing what we have been doing with a focus on safety, security, and service. Over more than 20 years in brokerage, we've always looked for ways to enhance our carrier vetting with people, process, technology, and information. Over the past 4 years, we've gone from over 100,000 approved carriers in Q2 of 2022 to just over 64,000 at the end of Q2, or a 35% reduction. As new technologies and information become available, we're going to continue to do just that, exactly what we've been doing. We're always looking for opportunities to drive safety, security, and service. On the insurance front, to Frank's point, we had a very favorable outcome on the auto liability tower. We were effectively flat. Again, that was a 1 June renewal. That was post-Montgomery decision, which I think was 14 May.

Speaker #4: For more than 20 years in brokerage, we've always looked for ways to enhance our carrier vetting. Through people, process, technology, and information over the past four years, we've gone from over 100,000 approved carriers in Q2 of '22 to just over 64,000 at the end of this Q2.

Speaker #4: Or a 35% reduction. As new technologies and information become available, we're going to continue to do just that—exactly what we've been doing. We're always looking for opportunities to drive safety, security, and service.

Speaker #4: On the insurance front, to Frank's point, we had a very favorable outcome. On the auto liability tower, we were effectively flat. Again, that was a June 1 renewal.

Speaker #4: That was post-Montgomery decision, which I think was May 14th. And then on the broker liability, we were plus 3%. So net-net, I think we had a favorable outcome there.

Matt Miller: On the broker liability, we were plus 3%. Net-net, I think we had a favorable outcome there.

Speaker #2: Yeah, and I would just piggyback on that, Scott. Certainly, in Montgomery, half the country prior to the SCOTUS ruling did not recognize that 4A. So now we've got basically half the country where we used to be able to submit a very well-crafted motion for summary judgment and usually get out, with a very high degree of probability.

Jim Todd: Yeah, I would just tee you back that, Scott. Certainly, the Montgomery, half the country pre the SCOTUS ruling did not recognize F4A. Now we've got basically half the country that we used to be able to submit a very well-crafted motion for summary judgment, and usually get out very high degree of probability. Those now we'll have to fight those. That will look like the half of the country that did not recognize F4A pre-Montgomery. I think there's certainly going to be some element of plaintiffs being more emboldened to pursue these cases. In terms of the figure that came out late last Thursday, I'm not familiar enough with the case.

Speaker #2: Those now will have to fight those, right? So, that would look like the half of the country that did not recognize that 4A pre-Montgomery.

Speaker #2: And then I think there's certainly going to be some element of plaintiffs being more emboldened to pursue these cases, in terms of the figure that came out late last Thursday.

Speaker #2: I'm not familiar enough with the case. As you know, most of these things involve big nuclear verdicts, and we're certainly aware on the BCO side—on the trucking side of the business. We've got a big degree of experience with large losses, both at the trial level and settlement.

Jim Todd: As you know most of these things on big nuclear verdicts, and we're certainly aware on the BCO side, on the trucking side of the business have got a big degree of experience with large losses both at the trial level and settlement. I would expect this thing to play out two, three, five years through the appellate process, et cetera.

Speaker #2: But I would expect this thing to play out two, three, maybe five years through the appellate process, etc.

Speaker #4: Yeah, helpful. And then just a second question on the BCO count. So, it picked up a little bit when we started hearing about rates up—18s, now mid-20s. In Q3, we have historically seen pretty dramatic increases in the BCO count.

Scott Group: Yeah. Helpful. Just a second question on the BCO count. Ticked up a little bit. When we start hearing about rates up mid-teens now, mid-20s in Q3, we historically have seen pretty dramatic increases in the BCO count. Is that something we should expect to start seeing in the back half of the year, or in this world of more supply-driven tightness, do you think it's any different in terms of how quickly the BCO count starts to really ramp?

Speaker #4: Is that something we should expect to start seeing in the back half of the year? Or, in this world of more supply-driven tightness, do you think it's any different in terms of how quickly the BCO count starts to really ramp?

Speaker #3: Hey, Scott, thanks. Yeah, I mean, we're actually excited about seeing the trend improve here in the last few months. When you look at where we started off the first, gosh, two or three weeks of January, it was a challenge for us and looked a little bit more like prior years.

Frank Lonegro: Hey, Scott. Thanks. Yeah, we're actually excited about seeing the trend improve here in the last few months. When you look at where we started off, the first, gosh, Matt, two or three weeks of January, were a challenge for us and looked a little bit more like prior years. I think we ended up the Q1 down a very modest amount. In comparison to the past four or five years was radically better, even though it was a slightly negative number. What Matt and his team are doing on the recruiting front and shrinking the time to qualify. Obviously, the rate environment is helpful to push more leads our way. I think it is both the cycle, but I also think it's some of the structural things that Matt and his team are working on. Matt?

Speaker #3: But I think we ended up the first quarter down a very, very modest amount. And in comparison to the past four or five years, it was radically better, even though it was a slightly negative number.

Speaker #3: And then what Matt and his team are doing on the recruiting front and shrinking the time to qualify, obviously the rate environment is helpful to push more leads our way.

Speaker #3: But I think it is both the cycle, but I also think it's some of the structural things that Matt and his team are working on.

Speaker #4: Yeah, yeah. I would say we're encouraged by what we're seeing. Sixty-eight trucks higher in the first quarter—or, I'm sorry, in the second quarter of '26—2026. Best net truck count result in the quarter since the first quarter of '22.

Matt Miller: I would say we're encouraged by what we're seeing, 68 trucks higher in the second quarter of 2026. Best net truck count result in the quarter since Q1 2022. It was the best Q2 result since 2021 and brings us to a positive net truck adds for the year.

Speaker #4: And it was the best second quarter result since 2021, and brings us to a positive net truck adds for the year. The net truck count trends improved in each month in the second quarter.

Matt Miller: The net truck count trends improved in each month in Q2, we saw continued growth in net truck counts during the most recent four-week period of July, where we added a net 49 trucks. During the quarter, gross truck adds were up 4.2% sequentially, demonstrating growing interest on the add side. During the quarter, gross truck cancels were down 13.6% sequentially, demonstrating that those that are in the network are finding success. I would say that this is the 10th consecutive quarter of turnover improvement. The high water mark was 41% in Q4 2023. We finished the quarter at 28.3. That's beneath our long-term average. I would just say the variable pay model is incredibly compelling for those that are interested in finding a home in this environment. You don't have to look further than 2018.

Speaker #4: And we saw continued growth in net truck count during the most recent four-week period of July, where we added a net 49 trucks. During the quarter, gross truck adds were up 4.2% sequentially, demonstrating growing interest on the add side.

Speaker #4: And then during the quarter, gross truck cancels were down 13.6% sequentially, demonstrating that those that are in the network are finding success. And then I would say that this is the tenth consecutive quarter of turnover improvement; the high watermark was 41% in the fourth quarter of '23.

Speaker #4: We finished the quarter at 28.3. That's beneath our long-term average. And then I would just say the variable pay model is incredibly compelling for those that are interested in finding a home in this environment.

Speaker #4: And you don't have to look further than 2018. We added plus 900 trucks; 2020, plus 750; 2021, plus 870. Typically, the improvement in cancellations leads the improvement in adds.

Jim Applegate: We added +900 trucks, 2020, +750, 2021, +870. Typically, the improvement in cancellations leads the improvement in adds, we're beginning to see that improvement in adds.

Speaker #4: And we're beginning to see that improvement in ads. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

Frank Lonegro: Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

Speaker #3: Thanks, yeah.

Scott Group: Thanks, John.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Chappell from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Chappell from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Thank you. Good afternoon. Jim or Frank, I recognize the reluctance to give guidance, but if we look at slide 16 here—and you've provided some year-over-year context and historical trends that clearly we are not tracking to right now—is there any way, through the first four weeks of the quarter, to take these year-over-year magnitudes and kind of help frame out how the third quarter is shaking out relative to those historical trends?

Jonathan Chappell: Thank you. Good afternoon. Jim or Frank, I recognize the reluctance to give guidance. If we look at slide 16 here, you provided some year-over-year context, and historical trends that clearly we are not tracking to right now. Is there any way through the first 4 weeks of the quarter to take these year-over-year magnitudes and help frame out how the Q3 is shaking out relative to those historical trends? A little bit more than slight or slight above typical. Any type of magnitude would be helpful.

Speaker #5: A little bit more than slight, or slightly above typical—any type of magnitude would be helpful.

Speaker #3: Hey, John. Yeah, I'm happy

Jim Todd: Hey, John. Yeah, I'm happy to. I would just start on the demand side. Really since March, we have been plus or minus, trailing 15-year averages on demand. One month will be slightly better, one month will be slightly worse. You saw the outcome for the Q2, where I think we were about maybe a little under 100 basis points better than typical Q1 to Q2 trends. We are 60 basis points better on a loads per workday, June into July. Again, that dovetails with Frank's slightly better, but again, you've got probably four or five months now of demand reconnecting to normal. On pricing, I think on the April deck, we had significantly outperformed, was the word we used on the slide, that's because pricing was 640 basis points better than it typically is in April.

Speaker #2: I'll start on the demand side. Really, since March, we have been plus or minus trailing the 15-year averages on demand. One month will be slightly better, and one month will be slightly worse.

Speaker #2: You saw the outcome for the second quarter where I think we were about, maybe, a little under 100 basis points better than typical Q1 to Q2 trends.

Speaker #2: We are 60 basis points better on loads per workday, June into July. So again, that dovetails with Frank's slightly better—but again, you've got probably four or five months now of demand kind of reconnecting to normal.

Speaker #2: On pricing, I think on the April deck we had 'significantly outperformed'—that was the phrase we used on the slide—and that's because pricing was 640 basis points better than it typically is in April.

Speaker #2: We were nearly 400 basis points better in May, nearly 400 basis points better in June. We're holding about 150 basis points better than normal in July, John.

Jim Todd: We were nearly 400 basis points better in May, nearly 400 basis points better in June. We are holding about 150 basis points better than normal in July, John. Hopefully, that helps with the model.

Speaker #2: Hopefully, that helps with the model.

Speaker #5: Super helpful. Thanks, Jim. And then just a super quick follow-up. Obviously, there's a big narrative around AI, data center infrastructure, etc. Sometimes that's favorable; sometimes it's unfavorable.

Jonathan Chappell: Super helpful. Thanks, Jim. Just a super quick follow-up. Obviously, there is a big narrative around AI data center infrastructure, et cetera. Sometimes that is favorable, sometimes it is unfavorable. Your heavy hauls continue to do very strong. Is there any kind of end market exposure that you can point to there that either kind of proves or disproves this narrative that maybe the data center or infrastructure-related construction may be slowing from kind of peak spend?

Speaker #5: Your heavy hauls continue to do very strong. Is there any kind of end market exposure that you can point to there that either kind of proves or disproves this narrative that maybe the data center or infrastructure-related construction may be slowing from kind of peak spend?

Speaker #2: Yeah. Hey John, it's Frank, and then Jim Applegate will pick up after my lead here. But we're continuing to see strength in the data center business.

Frank Lonegro: Hey, John, it is Frank, and then Jim Applegate will pick up after my lead here. We are continuing to see strength in the data center business. We look at it like an ecosystem rather than specific to the hyperscalers. Obviously, there is energy-related items in there, and then you got all the cooling as well. We are looking at it from the broader ecosystem perspective. When you look at the commodity breakdown in the deck and the commentary that JT provided, you are going to see building products has got a piece of it, energy has got a piece of it, machinery has got a piece of it. There is a lot of different areas that have data center exposure. We continue to see strong demand, especially from one of our largest customers, strong demand in that space, and a continuing need for additional capacity.

Speaker #2: We look at it like an ecosystem rather than specific to the hyperscalers. Obviously, there's energy-related items in there, and then you got all the cooling as well.

Speaker #2: So we're looking at it from the broader ecosystem perspective. When you look at the commodity breakdown in the deck and the commentary that JT provided, you're going to see building products has got a piece of it, energy has got a piece of it, and machinery has got a piece of it.

Speaker #2: There are a lot of different areas that have data center exposure, and we continue to see strong demand—especially from one of our largest customers—in that space.

Speaker #2: And its continuing need for additional capacity. So, we feel quite bullish about the things that are happening in the data center space and have not felt any pullback or suggested pullback in that space—certainly not in the last three or four months, when we've all read the same articles that you're alluding to.

Frank Lonegro: We feel quite bullish about the things that are happening in the data center space and have not felt any pullback or suggested pullback in that space. Certainly not in the last 3 or 4 months when we have all read the same articles that you are alluding to. Yep.

Speaker #2: Yep.

Speaker #5: Yeah. And hi Jonathan. Just to piggyback on Frank's comments, from a customer perspective, we're seeing a lot of new customers pop into our top customer list this year.

Jim Applegate: Yeah. Hi, Jonathan. Just to piggyback on what Frank's comments were. From a customer perspective, we're seeing a lot of new customers pop into our top customer list this year. A pipeline that's looking very strong and new customers that are starting to come through the woodwork here that we really, frankly, didn't anticipate that would be jumping into the game. With the existing customers that seem to have a continual appetite to invest and then it spreading across other providers, and us getting exposure to these new customers, I see a strong pipeline not only here for the remainder of the year, but heading into 2027.

Speaker #5: And a pipeline that's looking very strong, and new customers that are starting to come through the woodwork here that we really, frankly, didn't anticipate would be kind of jumping into the game.

Speaker #5: So with existing customers that seem to have a continual appetite to invest, and then, kind of, it's spreading across other providers and us getting exposure to these new customers, I see a strong pipeline not only here for the remainder of the year, but heading into 2027.

Speaker #2: And John, just real quick, while the heavy haul service offering has certainly been helped out from some AI, data center-type demand, we had 22 customers in that vertical grow their heavy haul volumes at Landstar by at least 50 loads in the quarter.

Jim Todd: John, just real quick, while the heavy haul service offering has certainly been helped out from some AI data center type demand, we had 22 customers in that vertical grow their heavy haul volumes with Landstar by at least 50 loads in the quarter. Besides data center, you've got aerospace, you've got defense. You heard Frank talk about power and energy. It really is broad-based. It's not just one or two customers driving the bus there.

Jim Todd: Jon, just real quick, while the heavy haul service offering has certainly been helped out from some AI data center type demand, we had 22 customers in that vertical grow their heavy haul volumes with Landstar by at least 50 loads in the quarter. Besides data center, you've got aerospace, you've got defense. You heard Frank talk about power and energy. It really is broad-based. It's not just one or two customers driving the bus there.

Speaker #2: And besides data center, you've got aerospace, you've got defense. You heard Frank talk about power and energy. So it really is broad-based—it's not just one or two customers driving the bus there.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks, Jim. Jim and Frank.

Jonathan Chappell: Great. Thanks, Jim and Frank.

Speaker #3: Thanks, thanks.

Jim Applegate: Thanks for your time.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jordan Alger from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jordan Alliger from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Speaker #6: Hey, everybody. This is Paul Stoddard on for Jordan Alger. Thanks for taking our question. I guess my question is, seeing that the brokerage volumes are still running negative year over year, is this largely because we're not seeing a firming up of the volume?

Paul Stoddard: Hey, everybody. This is Paul Stoddard on for Jordan Alliger. Thanks for taking our question. I guess my question is, seeing that the brokerage volumes are still running negative year-over-year, is this largely because we're not seeing a firming up of the volume, and are we seeing agents direct more volumes towards the BCOs?

Speaker #6: And are we seeing agents direct more volumes toward the BCOs?

Speaker #2: Hey, Paul. I'll give you my take. This is JT. So remember, the agents are going out to market to grow transportation volumes. They are certainly constrained by customer preferences, but for the most part, they're just trying to serve their customers and access capacity.

Jim Todd: Hey, Paul, I'll give you my take, and this is JT. Remember, the agents are going out to market to grow transportation volumes, and they are certainly constrained by customer preferences, but for the most part, they're trying to just serve their customer and access capacity. We run a non-forced dispatch operation here at Landstar. Utilization, if you just take BCO utilization second quarter year-to-date and annualize it, we'd be at 101.9 BCO loadings. That is about five loads better than the previous all-time high. I think the decline in brokerage, while there's certainly some probably customer preference there, given the elevated fraud in the supply chain that's been going on since 2022, 2023, I think the BCOs are just more active in coming out of the longest down cycle from a rate side.

Speaker #2: And then we run a non-force dispatch operation here at Landstar. So, utilization—if you just take BCO utilization, second quarter year to date and annualize it—we'd be at 101.9 BCO loadings.

Speaker #2: That is about five loads better than the previous all-time high. So, I think the decline in brokerage—well, there are certainly some, probably, customer preferences there given the elevated fraud in the supply chain that's been going on since 2022, 2023.

Speaker #2: I think the BCOs are just more active coming out of the longest down cycle from a rate side. They're hauling more loads, and as such, there's less freight to lay off to third-party carriers.

Jim Todd: They're hauling more loads, as such, there's less freight to lay off to third-party carriers.

Speaker #6: Got it, thanks. And then, I guess as a follow-up to that question—is it possible that since volumes are not growing by a meaningful amount compared to revenue per load, we're going to see less compression on VC margin because we're seeing more of those loads come through BCO rather than brokerage?

Paul Stoddard: Got it. Thanks. I guess as a follow-up to that question, is it potential that since volumes are not growing at a meaningful amount compared to revenue per load, are we going to see less compression on BCO margin because we're seeing more of those loads come through BCO rather than brokerage?

Speaker #2: It's a great question. So BCO mix, if you just look at BCO revenue as a percentage of total from first quarter, second quarter, it did dip sequentially.

Jim Todd: It's a great question. BCO mix, if you just look at BCO revenue as a percentage of total from Q1 to Q2, it did dip sequentially. That's not abnormal in Q2, especially when you have a 7% or 8% sequential uptick in loadings. The other factor there was, Paul, mainly that's brokerage and diesel, which is having a tailwind to revenue per load on brokerage, that it's not necessarily on BCO, but it is a tighter capacity environment. As a result, I think you heard Frank mention our net revenue margin on brokerage business compressed 129 basis points. Some of that is also fuel that you mark up on. Fuel surcharge is not as much as a line haul.

Speaker #2: So you've got—that's not abnormal in the second quarter, especially when you have a 7 or 8 percent sequential uptick in loadings. And the other factor there was, Paul—and mainly that's brokerage and diesel, which is having a tailwind to revenue per load on brokerage that is not necessarily on BCO.

Speaker #2: But it is a tighter capacity environment. And as a result, I think you heard Frank mention that our net revenue margin on brokerage business compressed 129 basis points.

Speaker #2: Some of that is also fuel that mark up on fuel surcharge is not as much as a linehaul.

Speaker #6: Got it. Thanks.

Paul Stoddard: Got it. Thanks.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Oglinsky from Barclays. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Oglenski from Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hey, good afternoon, guys, and thanks for taking my question. I think, Jim, maybe you mentioned that your insurance costs were held pretty much flat, or maybe up slightly, even in a post-Montgomery world.

Brandon Oglenski: Hey, good afternoon, guys, and thanks for taking my question. I think, Jim, maybe you mentioned that your insurance costs you held pretty much flat or maybe up slightly even in a post-Montgomery world. Is this something that we should expect on a go-forward basis, or is it just like everyone needs to experience what the claims are actually going to be like post-Montgomery, and maybe we could see a big reset there in the future?

Speaker #5: I mean, is this something that we should expect on a go-forward basis, or is it just like everyone needs to experience what the claims are actually going to be like post-Montgomery and maybe we could see a big reset there in the future?

Speaker #3: Hey, Brandon. It's Frank first, and then JT and Matt may fill in some gaps here. I think the important thing in any insurance renewal is how your company performs on the most important measures—not the least of which is going to be safety, and certainly the claims history.

Frank Lonegro: Hey, Brandon. It's Frank first, then JT and Matt may fill in some gaps here. I think the important thing in any insurance renewal is how your company performs on the most important measures, not the least of which is going to be safety and certainly the claims history. Then you got the market phenomenon, which is obviously if you have some catastrophic issues that impact particular carriers who may be shared across the environment, that's going to impact the overall renewal market. Now, walking into the renewal in the April-May timeframe, we felt like we had a pretty good case for a strong renewal, even though the market had shown us some trends that were maybe working against the industry. We're able to point to all of the BCO demographics. We're able to point to the balance sheet. We're able to point to the safety measures.

Speaker #3: And then you have the market phenomenon, which is obviously if you have some catastrophic issues that impact particular carriers who may be shared across the environment, that's going to impact the overall renewal.

Speaker #3: Market. Now, walking into the renewal in the April, May timeframe, I mean, we felt like we had a pretty good case for a strong renewal, even though the market had shown us some trends that were maybe working against the industry.

Speaker #3: But we're able to point to all of the BCO demographics. We're able to point to the balance sheet. We're able to point to the safety measures.

Speaker #3: We're able to point to the things that the underwriters look at and say, "Okay, this is a company that I want to underwrite."

Frank Lonegro: We're able to point to the things that the underwriters look at and say, Okay, this is a company that I want to underwrite. Matt?

Speaker #5: Yeah, no, I would agree with you, Frank. And I think a lot depends—I mean, there's a lot that's going to happen over the coming months and years.

Matt Miller: Yeah, no, I would agree with you, Frank, I think a lot depends. There's a lot to happen over the coming months and years, certainly we have a renewal in 1 June 2025. There's an opportunity for FMCSA to do some things on the regulatory front. Then there's a variety of things that could happen in sort of litigation that may come out contrary to what we saw more recently. I think there's a lot that can happen between now and then, so it's really tough to see.

Speaker #5: And certainly, we have a renewal on June 1 of next year. There's an opportunity for FMCSA to do some things on the regulatory front.

Speaker #5: And then there are a variety of things that could happen in litigation that may come out contrary to what we saw more recently.

Speaker #5: So, I think there's a lot that can happen between now and then, so it's really tough to see.

Brandon Oglenski: Gentlemen, I appreciate that response. I guess, Frank, are you trying to lay the case here that maybe not all is created equal? Is this going to be a larger issue for smaller brokerages?

Speaker #4: And gentlemen, I appreciate that response. And I guess, Frank, are you trying to lay the case here that maybe not all is created equal?

Speaker #4: I mean, is this going to be a larger issue for smaller brokerages?

Speaker #3: On the brokerage side, for sure. Let's say you move 100 loads and you have one or two that go bad. As a small broker, as JT pointed out in answer to one of the earlier questions, you're going to have litigation costs that you never had before.

Frank Lonegro: On the brokerage side, for sure. Let's say you move 100 loads and you have one or two that go bad as a small broker. As JT pointed out in an answer to one of the earlier questions, you're going to have litigation costs that you never had before if you're in an F4A jurisdiction that was in effect previously but not in effect now because of Montgomery. Now you're going to be paying legal fees. As a reformed lawyer, I know that those aren't cheap. Then you have the possibility of a more extended litigation environment, potentially a verdict or a settlement. As you know, margins in our industry are thin. There's only so many punches to the stomach you can take as a smaller player.

Speaker #3: If you're in an FRA jurisdiction that was in effect previously, but not in effect now because of Montgomery, so now you're going to be paying legal fees as a reformed lawyer.

Speaker #3: I know that those aren't cheap. And then you have the possibility of a more extended litigation environment—potentially a verdict or a settlement. And as you know, margins in our industry are thin.

Speaker #3: And so, there's only so many punches to the stomach you can take as a smaller player. So I do think, back to the point we talked about earlier on being attractive to small and medium-sized brokers, we think we offer a very compelling value proposition under the Landstar umbrella.

Frank Lonegro: I do think back to the point we talked about earlier on being attractive to small and medium-sized brokers. We think we offer a very compelling value proposition under the Landstar umbrella. We're beginning to see some traction there. As I mentioned, the one Midwestern independent broker that signed on as a new Landstar agent in the $18 million annualized range, that's a big deal for us. We'd love to attract folks like that who are out there every day and believe in the safety, security, and service proposition that we offer and we expect from the new agents that come on board.

Speaker #3: And so we're beginning to see some traction there, as I mentioned, the one Midwestern independent broker that signed on as a new LANDSTAR agent in the $18 million annualized.

Speaker #3: Range—that's a big deal for us. I mean, we'd love to attract folks like that who are out there every day and believe in the safety, security, and service proposition that we offer.

Speaker #3: And we expect the same from the new agents that come on board.

Speaker #4: Appreciate it.

Brandon Oglenski: Appreciate it.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tom Woodwards from UBS. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tom Wadewitz from UBS. Your line is now open.

Speaker #7: Yeah, good afternoon. I wanted to just, I guess, ask—you had a lot of questions on this—but I want to get a little more sense of how you look at things.

Tom Wadewitz: Yeah. Good afternoon. Wanted to just, I guess ask, you've had a lot of questions on this, want to get a little more sense of how you look at things. I guess in terms of the carrier selection, how have you changed your criteria? You mentioned the move down to 64,000 carriers. Is that for broker carriers? Do you think that continues to go down? How do you look at it to say, Okay, what would we tighten up or what would we view differently just in terms of how we define a safe carrier that we would work with? That's one, just had one follow-up, too.

Speaker #7: So I guess, in terms of the carrier selection, how have you changed your criteria? You mentioned the move down to $64,000 carriers. Is that for broker carriers? Do you think that continues to go down?

Speaker #7: And how do you look at it to say, "Okay, what would we tighten up or what would we view differently?" Just in terms of how we define a safe carrier that we would work with?

Speaker #7: So that's one. And then just to add one follow-up too.

Speaker #3: Yeah, for sure. Tom, nice to hear your voice. I think on the carrier selection, we've always taken carrier selection very, very seriously. We've always looked to evolve that over time as new sources of information become available.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah, for sure, Tom. Nice to hear your voice. I think on the carrier selection, we've always taken carrier selection very seriously. We've always looked to evolve that over time as new sources of information become available and honestly, as different carriers have different track records of success in what they do out there moving every single day. Matt and his team do a really nice job of understanding exactly what those criteria are. When things become safety related, obviously we have to move folks to the unapproved category and not use them anymore. Those are things that Matt and his team are working on. Customers are beginning to ask for, at least at a high level, what our carrier vetting standards are. We're beginning to have some really good conversations with direct customers.

Speaker #3: And honestly, as different carriers have different track records of success and what they do out there moving every single day, Matt and his team do a really nice job of understanding exactly what those criteria are.

Speaker #3: And when things become safety-related, obviously, we have to move folks to the unapproved category and not use them anymore. So those are things that Matt and his team are working on.

Speaker #3: Customers are beginning to ask for, at least at a high level, what our carrier vetting standards are. And so, we're beginning to have some really good conversations with direct customers.

Speaker #3: I do think a point that Matt made earlier, and that I mentioned in my prepared remarks, is going to be really important. And that is, having some sort of minimum federal selection standards—vetting standards—is going to be really, really important.

Frank Lonegro: I do think a point that Matt made earlier, I mentioned in my prepared remarks, is going to be really important, that is having some sort of minimum federal selection standards, vetting standards is going to be really important. Otherwise, we're going to be subject to 50 different states, if you counted every county that has a court, that's going to be hundreds if not thousands of different interpretations of what reasonable care or ordinary care is in the selection of carriers. Matt?

Speaker #3: Otherwise, we're going to be subject to 50 different states. And if you counted every county that has a court, it's going to be hundreds, if not thousands, of different interpretations of what reasonable care or ordinary care is in the selection of carriers.

Speaker #3: Matt?

Speaker #5: Yeah, I think going from, as you highlighted, the 100,000 carriers down to 64,000 carriers, that all started with cargo technology and the available technology that became available to us out of the advent of fraud. That helped us begin to drive further vetting standards within our organization and drive down those overall approved carriers in the network.

Matt Miller: Going from, as you highlighted, the 100,000 carriers down to 64,000 carriers, that all started with cargo fraud, right? The investment in technology and the available technology that became available to us out of the advent of fraud helped us begin to drive further vetting standards within our organization and driving down those overall approved carriers in the network. That sort of dovetails with the safety parameters that we have as well. Folks that are not necessarily operating above board from a theft standpoint are likely not necessarily operating above board from a safety standpoint. We've been able to drive that down. To Frank's point earlier, as information technology or an opportunity presents itself, we're going to continue to press that safety, security, and service emphasis.

Speaker #5: That sort of dovetails with the safety parameters that we have as well. Folks that are not necessarily operating above board from a theft standpoint are likely not necessarily operating above board from a safety standpoint.

Speaker #5: And so we've been able to drive that down. And to Frank's point earlier, as information technology or an opportunity presents itself, we're going to continue to press that safety, security, and service emphasis.

Speaker #7: Okay, great. And I guess just a second, kind of related question. So Frank, you mentioned it would be helpful to get something from FMCSA that defines maybe parameters.

Tom Wadewitz: Okay. Great. I guess just a second kind of related question. Frank, you mentioned it'd be helpful to get something from FMCSA that defines maybe parameters. Can you give a little more of a sense of what you would want to see from them? Also just what would you want to see from the courts that would maybe provide some precedents that would give you a little more clear look to say, "Okay, $600 million verdict against CH or whatever broker just doesn't make sense because they did this and that." Right? Just some thoughts on what would be helpful to think about how the legal risk could become better looking forward.

Speaker #7: Can you give a little more of a sense of what you would want to see from them? And then also, just kind of what would you want to see from the courts that would maybe provide some precedent that would give you a little more clarity to say, "Okay, a $600 million verdict against CH or whatever broker just doesn't make sense because they did this and that," right?

Speaker #7: Just some kind of thoughts on what would be helpful to kind of think about—how the risk, the legal risk, could become more, better looking forward.

Speaker #3: Yeah, I think on the second point, Tom, the courts are going to—every decision, every verdict that comes out is going to set some level of new law and flesh out what is reasonable care in those situations.

Frank Lonegro: I think on the second point, Tom, I think the courts are going to. Every decision, every verdict that comes out, is going to set some level of new law and flesh out what is reasonable care in those situations. That's just going to take a fairly long period of time to develop. I think as it develops, we'll see the balance set between, let's call it the plaintiffs and the defendants. As JT mentioned earlier, right now there's a little bit of buoyancy in the plaintiff bar, in looking at cases that are tending toward broker liability issues. I think on the FMCSA side, as we talk to folks who are inside the beltway, so to speak, looking at minimum insurance standards for carriers is going to be important. That hasn't been touched in, Matt, 40 or 45 years or something like that.

Speaker #3: So that's just going to take a fairly long period of time to develop. And I think as it develops, we'll see the balance set between, let's call it, the plaintiffs and the defendants.

Speaker #3: As JT mentioned earlier, right now there's a little bit of buoyancy in the plaintiff bar in looking at cases that are tending toward broker liability issues.

Speaker #3: I think on the FMCSA side, as we talk to folks who are inside the Beltway, so to speak, looking at minimum insurance standards for carriers is going to be important.

Speaker #3: That hasn’t been touched in, Matt, 40 or 45 years or something like that. Thinking about minimum insurance standards for brokers, in addition to carriers, looking at literally kind of a 10-bullet checklist of: did you check FMCSA?

Frank Lonegro: Thinking about minimum insurance standards for brokers, in addition to carriers. Looking at literally a 10-bullet checklist of did you check FMCSA? Did you check the technology tools that were available? Did you check their various records and things like that? We've got to have something where we can go through our standards relative to a federal minimum and say, "Look, we exercised ordinary care. We were in compliance with the federal minimum standards." I think that will help reset the balance between plaintiffs and defendants as well. I think there's going to be some time for this all to shake out. Right now, the best thing we can do is run the safest possible network we can.

Speaker #3: Did you check the technology tools that were available? Did you check their various records and things like that? We've got to have something where we can go through our standards relative to a federal minimum and say, "Look, we exercised ordinary care."

Speaker #3: We were in compliance with the federal minimum standards. And I think that will help reset the balance between plaintiffs and defendants as well. And so, I think there's going to be some time for this all to shake out.

Speaker #3: Right now, the best thing we can do is run the safest possible network we can.

Tom Wadewitz: Do you think that's coming soon from FMCSA or is that just kind of indefinite?

Speaker #7: Do you think that's coming soon from FMCSA, or is that just kind of indefinite?

Frank Lonegro: The short answer is I don't know. I will tell you this. They've moved faster than any other FMCSA or DOT organization in the last couple of years than any in history. If they have a mind to tackle this item, my sense is it would happen on a quicker timetable than we're used to.

Speaker #3: The short answer is, I don't know. But I will tell you this: they've moved faster than any other FMCSA or DOT organization in the last couple of years—faster than any in history.

Speaker #3: So, if they have a mind to tackle this item, my sense is it would happen on a quicker timetable than we're used to.

Speaker #7: Yeah, great. Thank you. Thanks for your time.

Tom Wadewitz: Yeah. Great. Thank you. Thanks for the time.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Tom.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, Tom.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Ossenbeck from JP Morgan. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Ossenbeck from JP Morgan. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Ossenbeck from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Speaker #6: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe first, just a real quick follow-up on the insurance side. I don't know if you've seen any changes in coverage, endorsements, or deductibles, or anything along those lines.

Brian Ossenbeck: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe first, just real quick follow-up on the insurance side. I don't know if you've seen any changes in coverage, endorsements or deductibles or anything along those lines. For yourselves. Would you expect that to be part of how risk gets repriced across the industry from a broker liability perspective?

Speaker #6: For yourselves, and would you expect that to be part of how risk gets repriced across the industry from a broker liability perspective?

Speaker #3: I think over time, Brian, as people renew, they're all going to have to look at who's going to write first-dollar coverage or at a certain deductible level.

Frank Lonegro: I think over time, Brian, as people renew, they're all going to have to look at who's going to write first dollar coverage or at a certain deductible level. We have deductibles in our space. We have structured deals in our tower. I think it's all going to depend on the risk assessment that the insurance carriers and brokers do. We did not have to make any meaningful adjustments in our self-insure retention levels this go around. Obviously that'll be subject to a dialogue next year.

Speaker #3: I mean, we have deductibles in our space. We have structured deals in our tower. I think it's all going to depend on the risk assessment that the insurance carriers and brokers do.

Speaker #3: We did not have to make any meaningful adjustments in our self-insured retention levels this go-around. But, obviously, that will be subject to dialogue next year.

Speaker #7: Yeah, I would just echo that, Brian.

Jim Todd: Yeah, I would just echo that, Brian. The broker liability policies we have, which we have an initial policy, an excess policy, we renewed those as existing, I believe, Matt, at a very modest increase year, a policy year over policy year.

Speaker #3: The broker liability policies we have—which include an initial policy and an excess policy—we renewed those as existing, I believe, Matt, at a very modest increase, policy year over policy year.

Speaker #6: Okay, I appreciate that. Maybe just, Jim, to advocate: obviously, the company has been investing in technology for quite a while, and you've been involved with that.

Brian Ossenbeck: Okay. I appreciate that. Maybe just Jim Applegate, obviously, company's been investing in technology for quite a while. You've been involved with that, but any sort of quick thoughts stepping into this new role for strategy and transformation? Maybe you can start with an update on just the AI initiatives, sort of the distributed level and also at the central level at the corporate. Thanks.

Speaker #6: But any sort of quick thoughts, stepping into the, I guess, new role for strategy and transformation? Maybe you can start with an update on just the AI initiatives, sort of at the distributed level and also at the central level at corporate.

Speaker #6: Thanks.

Speaker #3: Hey, thanks, Brian. Yeah, we're going to finish up answering that question.

Jim Applegate: Hey. Thanks, Brian. Yeah.

Jim Todd: We're going to finish up answering that question.

Jim Applegate: All right. Yeah. Brian, you know my background, and I think we've had a lot of conversations around technology. I think right now is just a great time to really be looking at what technology can do for our agent network. As you know, we've made a lot of progress. I think I've spoke on a few different calls about the progress that we've been making around AI, both within the building and within our agent offices. We've delivered several applications that are improving agent workflow. We're getting faster information retrieval. We're improving exception handling, better data visibility, you name it. It's just really powerful what this new technology can do. I think as we get into the next phase here, we've got a real meaningful opportunity here to get the technology in the hands of the agents. We're planning on ramping that up.

Speaker #6: All right. Yeah. Brian, you know my background, and I think we've had a lot of conversations around technology. I think right now it's just a great time to really be looking at what technology can do for our agent network.

Speaker #6: As you know, we've made a lot of progress. I think I've spoken on a few different calls about the progress that we've been making around AI, both within the building and within our agent offices.

Speaker #6: We've delivered several applications that are improving agent workflow. We're getting faster information retrieval and we're improving exception handling. Better data visibility—you name it. I mean, it's just really powerful what this new technology can do.

Speaker #6: I think as we get into the next phase here, we've got a real, meaningful opportunity to get the technology in the hands of the agents.

Speaker #6: And we're planning on ramping that up, starting off in Q3, mid-Q3. We've got a plan in place to get out into our agent offices.

Jim Applegate: Starting off in Q3, mid-Q3, we've got a plan in place to get out into our agent offices. We have some repeatable applications that we can actually deliver to the agents. Our hope and really expectation is that they're going to be able to use those tools not only to get more efficient, but to grow their business. It's kind of a twofold approach. One is kind of making sure that they can actually transition to technology, but then really getting that technology deployed the right way that they can redeploy the resources and us teaching them best practices and really kind of upping their game and really kind of delivering better solutions in the future on behalf of our customers. As you guys know, I think we've got the best model in the industry.

Speaker #6: We have some repeatable applications that we can actually deliver to the agents, and our hope, and really our expectation, is that they're going to be able to use those tools not only to get more efficient, but to grow their business.

Speaker #6: So it's kind of a twofold approach. One is making sure that they can actually transition to technology, but then really getting technology deployed the right way so that they can redeploy the resources, and us teaching them best practices, and really kind of upping their game and delivering better solutions in the future on behalf of our customers.

Speaker #6: As you guys know, I think we've got the best model in the industry. It's not just the technology. It's making sure that you've got the right people in place to really deploy that technology.

Jim Applegate: It's not just the technology, it's making sure that you've got the right people in place to really deploy that technology. This is an execution business. Technology is not going to replace what our agents bring to the table. It's about relationships, it's about trust, it's about safety, security, service, delivering that throughout the network. We're going to make sure that they can do that better than anybody else in the industry.

Speaker #6: This is an execution business. Technology is not going to replace what our agents bring to the table. It's about relationships. It's about trust. It's about safety, security, service—delivering that throughout the network.

Speaker #6: And we're going to make sure that they can do that better than anybody else in the industry. Okay, great. Thanks for your time.

Brian Ossenbeck: Okay, great. Thanks for the time.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Brian.

Jim Todd: Thanks, Brian.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Settle from P.D. Collin. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Seidl from TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hi, thanks. This is Odeon for Jason Settle. Maybe I can just start on BCO utilization. I was just wondering how that looked in the second quarter.

[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Hi. Thanks. This is Uday on for Jason Seidl. Maybe I can just start on BCO utilization. I'm just wondering how that looked in Q2. I imagine there's some excitement there with pricing moving up. I guess, is there room for utilization to accelerate in Q3, maybe also into Q4? I know BCOs usually take some time off in the holiday season, but it's also the first time the rate environment's been favorable in four years. Just any thoughts on utilization?

Speaker #5: I imagine there's some excitement there with pricing moving up. I guess, is there room for utilization to accelerate in the third quarter, maybe also into the fourth quarter?

Speaker #5: I know BCOs usually take some time off in the holiday season, but it's also the first time the rate environment's been favorable in four years.

Speaker #5: Just any thoughts on utilization?

Speaker #3: Yeah, Odeon, thanks for the question. Good question. Obviously, we've been very happy with BCO utilization over the last three or four quarters. The comps will get harder as we lap the third and the fourth quarter.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah, Uday, thanks for the question. Good question. Obviously, we've been very happy with BCO utilization over the last three or four quarters. The comps will get harder as we lap Q3 and Q4 of last year. If you just took a trend line against the kind of 101, 102 that we are, we came into the last trailing 12 in Q2. I think you'll see that we'll continue to show utilization improvements on a year-over-year basis just based on the math. I think what you're seeing is the sort of pent-up demand to make money, given the fact that we've been in a three or four-year freight recession. Look, that's not lost on the BCOs. They had some kind of leaner years in 2022, 2023, 2024, as it was a declining market, and into 2025, obviously.

Speaker #3: Of last year. But if you just took a trend line against the kind of 101, 102 that we are we came into the last trailing 12 in the second quarter, I think you'll see that we'll continue to show utilization improvements on a year-over-year basis just based on the math.

Speaker #3: I think what you're seeing is the sort of pent-up demand to make money, given the fact that we've been in a three- or four-year freight recession.

Speaker #3: And look, that's not lost on the BCOs. They had some kind of leaner years in '22, '23, '24, as it was a declining market.

Speaker #3: And in 2025, obviously. So I think they're making hay while the sun shines, so to speak, and making sure that they are able to get the loads.

Frank Lonegro: I think they're making hay while the sun shines, so to speak, and making sure that they are able to get the loads. I also, I give a lot of credit to the agents. The agents are out there selling really good freight, and that puts it on the board for the BCOs to haul. The fact that we have more BCOs and higher BCO utilization, and we got agents that are out there getting the premium freight, that's what makes this network special to Jim Applegate's good point. Matt, any other commentary you want to put on that?

Speaker #3: And I also, I give a lot of credit to the agents. The agents are out there selling really good freight, and that puts it on the board for the BCOs to haul so the fact that we have more BCOs and higher BCO utilization and we got agents that are out there getting the premium freight, that's what makes this network special to Jim Applegate's good point.

Speaker #3: But Matt, do you have any other comments that you want to add to that?

Matt Miller: Yeah. I would just say that utilization was up 12% year over year and 8% sequentially. I just tip of the hat to the new BCOs coming into the network. They want to get to work. Also to the existing BCOs, they were in it for a pretty prolonged downturn, and they're also ready to haul more and more loads, and we're seeing that.

Matt Miller: Yeah. I would just say that utilization was up 12% year-over-year and 8% sequentially. I just tip of the hat to the new BCOs coming into the network. They want to get to work. Also to the existing BCOs, they were in it for a pretty prolonged downturn, and they're also ready to haul more and more loads, and we're seeing that.

Speaker #4: Yeah, yeah. I would just say that utilization was up 12% year over year and 8% sequentially. And just a tip of the hat to the new BCOs coming into the network.

Speaker #4: They want to get to work. And also, to the existing BCOs, they were in it for a pretty prolonged downturn. And they're also ready to haul more and more loads, and we're seeing that.

Speaker #5: Yep. All right, that's good to hear. Maybe if I could just go back to the insurance topic for a clarification. So Frank, I think you mentioned the five claims reserve headwinds in the quarter.

[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Yep. All right. That's good to hear. Maybe if I could just go back to the insurance topic, just a clarification. Frank, I think you mentioned the five claims reserve headwinds in the quarter. I think three related to truck brokerage. Were those brokerage reserves new reserves that you have now made in light of the Montgomery ruling, or were those kind of adjustments related to cases kind of in the normal course of business? I think like JT said on the half of the country where you still have to fight these

Speaker #5: I think three related to truck brokerage. Were those brokerage reserves new reserves that you have now made in light of the Montgomery ruling, or were those adjustments related to cases in the normal course of business?

Speaker #5: I think, like JD said, on half of the country, we just electrified these.

Speaker #3: Yeah, Odeon, that's a great question. I believe there were three with $0 reserves previously, and then at each quarter-end balance sheet date, we've got to reevaluate from a FAS 5 standpoint.

Frank Lonegro: Dude, that's a great question. I believe all three were $0 reserves previously, then at each quarter-end balance sheet date, we've got to reevaluate from an ASC 450 standpoint. There is a nuisance value on some of these, too. When you get your quote on what it's going to cost to take the initial trial and then appeal costs. I think all three of those were zero. I'll confirm that when we're offline and get back with you.

Speaker #3: And there is a nuisance value on some of these too, right? When you get your quote on what it's going to cost to take the initial trial, and then appeal costs.

Speaker #3: But I think all three of those were zero. I'll confirm that when we're offline. And get back with you.

Speaker #5: Yes, that's very helpful context. Thank you very much.

Jim Todd: Yep. No, that's very helpful context. Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Marcel Majors from Stevens. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bascome Majors from Stephens. Your line's now open.

Speaker #6: Yes, thanks for taking my question. If we look back historically, we can see the cost of the rising claims environment in your P&L clearly, with the cost as a percent of BCO revenue for insurance and claims going from, what, 3% or less a decade ago to more like 7% or 8% more recently.

Bascome Majors: Yeah. Thanks for taking my question. If we look back historically, we can see the cost of the rising claims environment in your P&L clearly with the cost as a percent of BCO revenue of the insurance and claims going from, what, 3% or less a decade ago to more like 7% and 8% more recently. We've heard you talk about BCOs being more attracted to the network. We heard you talk some about attracting some larger agents. Is this shift starting to make the Landstar model and system and platform more valuable to the entrepreneurs on both sides? Is that an emerging trend, or are we reading too far into this?

Speaker #6: But we've heard you talk about BCOs being more attracted to the network. We've heard you talk some about attracting larger agents. Is this shift starting to make the Landstar model, system, and platform more valuable to the entrepreneurs on both sides?

Speaker #6: Is that an emerging trend, or are we reading too far into this?

Speaker #3: Yeah, I think on the claims over time, JT will fill in the blanks on that one. Obviously, it's a combination of a lot of things that JT can unpack for you.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah, I think on the claims over time, JT will fill in the blanks on that one. Obviously, it's a combination of a lot of things that JT can unpack for you. I do think on the emerging trend idea, I do think that scale is going to continue to matter. I think scale players that have a long track record of being safe and secure and delivering a great service product for the end customer, I think we're going to begin to see more and more customers prefer scale players. I think they're going to have more and more customers that prefer BCOs, just because of the track record of success that they have there. Yeah, I'd say it is an emerging trend.

Speaker #3: I do think on the emerging trend idea, I do think that scale is going to continue to matter. I think scale players that have a long track record of being safe and secure and delivering a great service product for the end customer—I think we're going to begin to see more and more customers prefer scale players.

Speaker #3: I think they’re going to have more and more customers that prefer BCOs, just because of the track record of success that they have there.

Speaker #3: So yeah, I'd say it is an emerging trend. I've got one data point, but certainly, the pipeline of potential agent additions—if we're able to get some of those across the finish line—would add a couple more data points to that over the next handful of quarters.

Frank Lonegro: I've got one data point. Certainly the pipeline of potential agent additions, if we're able to get some of those across the finish line, would add a couple more data points to that over the next handful of quarters. Certainly Matt and all the great work that he's doing. He's, I think, seeing less cancels and beginning to see some green shoots on the addition side and on the net basis that gives us a good trend in the BCO count. We saw that in Q2. We mentioned that we've seen an increase in July. Yeah, I'd like to think that we are the leader in this space and are going to be successful even in a post-Montgomery world. JT?

Speaker #3: And then certainly Matt, with all the great work that he's doing, I think he's seeing fewer cancels and beginning to see some green shoots on the addition side and on a net basis.

Speaker #3: That gives us a good trend in the BCO count. We saw that in the second quarter, and we mentioned that we've seen an increase in July.

Speaker #3: So, yeah, I mean, I like to think that we are the leader in this space and are going to be successful even in a post-Montgomery world.

Speaker #3: JT?

Speaker #7: Hey, Bass. So I would echo Frank's first thought there—the value proposition to join the Landstar network, to become an independent freight agent or an owner-operator BCO.

Jim Todd: Hey, Bass. Matt out. I would echo Frank's first thought there. The value proposition, if you come and join the Landstar Network, to be an independent freight agent or owner-operator or BCO, is very strong. I take your point on insurance. In 2019, we had about 10,500 BCOs in the fleet, and we had an $80 million insurance year. Fast-forward 6 years, 7 years, it's trending 2x that with 8,600 BCOs in the fleet. Oh, by the way, our accident frequency and our DOT accident frequency, which are those more severe accidents, we're a safer company. We were safe in 2019. We're even safer today. I don't think that's unique to Landstar. Claim cost severity has been going one way for some period of time. I think other industry peers would echo that.

Speaker #7: It's very, very strong. But I take your point on insurance, right? So in 2019, we had about 10,500 BCOs in the fleet, and we had an $80 million insurance year.

Speaker #7: And fast forward six years, seven years, it's trending 2x that with 8,600 BCOs in the fleet. And, oh by the way, our accident frequency and our DOT accident frequency—which are those more severe accidents—we're a safer company.

Speaker #7: And we were safe in 2019. We're even safer today. I don't think that's unique to Landstar, right? Claim cost severity has been going one way for some period of time.

Speaker #7: I think other industry peers would echo that. Certainly, the kind of new elements that Miller touched on earlier—in 2022 and 2023, the cargo claim environment has gotten really, really tough on the brokerage side.

Jim Todd: Certainly, the kind of new elements that Miller touched on earlier, 2022, 2023, the cargo claim environment has gotten really tough on the brokerage side. We've done a lot of good work there in terms of implementing a new team and best-in-class technology, both off the shelf and internally developed. Clearly this more recent phenomenon, our largest brokerage loss, at least based on the judgment entered last year, was $22.8 million. If you recall on that one, the jury apportioned 15% of that $22.8 to Landstar, and that's one that's currently under appeal. On the owner-operator side of the business, clearly claim cost severity has been a pressure for the industry and the cargo and the brokerage stuff are more recent. At the end of the day, folks, it's a higher cost for everybody.

Speaker #7: We've done a lot of good work there. In terms of implementing a new team and best-in-class technology—both off-the-shelf and internally developed—and then, clearly, this more recent phenomenon: our largest brokerage loss, at least based on the judgment entered last year, was $22.8 million.

Speaker #7: And if you recall on that one, the jury apportioned 15% of that $22.8 million to Landstar. And that's one that's currently under appeal. So on the owner-operator side of the business, clearly claim cost severity has been a pressure for the industry, and the cargo and the brokerage stuff are more recent.

Speaker #7: At the end of the day, folks, it's a higher cost for everybody. Our view has been that the industry participants are going to have to start to recapture some of that in the top line.

Jim Todd: Our view has been the industry participants are going to have to start to recapture some of that in the top line. I think some of that you're seeing in H1 of 2026 playing catch-up.

Speaker #7: And I think some of that you're seeing in the first half of '26, playing catch-up.

Speaker #6: Thank you both.

Bascome Majors: Thank you both.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Bass.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, guys.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stephanie Moore from Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stephanie Moore from Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Speaker #8: Great, good afternoon. Thank you. I appreciate the color on just maybe the changing landscape in this post-Montgomery world, and I think your color around just the impact this could have on small and medium-sized brokers.

Stephanie Moore: Great. Good afternoon. Thank you. Appreciate the color on just maybe the changing landscape in this post-Montgomery world, and I think your color around just the impact this could have on small and medium-sized brokers. Curious if this changes your view from an M&A standpoint. Historically, an area you didn't really play much in, but just given the events as of late, is this something that you might look into differently, either on the small and medium brokerage front or also if anything was interesting on the agent front as well? Thanks.

Speaker #8: Curious if this changes your view from an M&A standpoint historically—an area you didn't really play much in—but just given the events as of late, is this something that you might look into differently, either on the small and medium brokerage front or also anything that was interesting on the agent front as well?

Speaker #8: Thanks.

Speaker #3: Yeah, no, good question, Stephanie. It depends on how you define M&A, right? If I look at the Midwest broker that signed on as an agent, obviously, there are financial incentives to do that.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah, no. Good question, Stephanie. It depends on how you define M&A. If I look at the Midwest broker that signed on as an agent, obviously there's financial incentives to do that. You could look at that as a kind of small M, small A type of M&A. We've looked at a variety of different things over time. It's got to really fit the model. It's a limited environment of things that would fit the model. We're certainly not averse to looking at it and have looked at a number of possibilities over the last few years. We certainly have the balance sheet to be able to support it. I think the best down-the-middle play for us is could we find five or 10 more $18 million agents out of the Midwest that want to come under the Landstar model? We're pretty good at doing that.

Speaker #3: So, you could look at that as a kind of small 'm', small 'a' type of M&A. We've looked at a variety of different things over time.

Speaker #3: It's got to really fit the model, and so it's a limited environment of things that would fit the model. We're certainly not averse to looking at it, and have looked at a number of possibilities over the last few years.

Speaker #3: We certainly have the balance sheet to be able to support it. But I think the best down-the-middle play for us is, could we find 5 or 10 more $18 million agents out of the Midwest that want to come under the Landstar model?

Speaker #3: We're pretty good at doing that, so we want to make sure that we're deploying the shareholders' capital in the right way. And in a risk-adjusted type of return environment, we think that that's a really smart play for us.

Frank Lonegro: We want to make sure that we're deploying the shareholders' capital in the right way and in a risk-adjusted type of return environment. We think that that's a really smart play for us.

Speaker #8: Great. I appreciate the time. Thank you.

Stephanie Moore: Great. I appreciate the time. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Stephanie.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, Devon.

Speaker #1: The floor is now open. Great. I think there's no response from Bruce Chen. Our next question comes from the line of...

Operator: Sir, your line is now open. All right. I think there's no response from Bruce Chan. Our next question comes from the line of-

Bruce Chan: Hello, can you hear me?

Speaker #9: Hello? Can you hear me? I'm here, yeah. Just appreciate the time, Jens. Just a couple, hopefully, quick ones left from my side. The first one here—I know it's a smaller part of the business—but it looks like LTL load count was down pretty meaningfully this quarter.

Frank Lonegro: Bruce, are you there?

Bruce Chan: I'm here, yeah. Just appreciate the time, gents. Just a couple, hopefully quick ones left from my side. The first one here, I know it's a smaller part of the business, but it looks like LTL load count was down pretty meaningfully this quarter, revenue per load up. Anything to maybe glean from the underlying market there, or is that just agents maybe choosing to spend their time on more lucrative business?

Speaker #9: Revenue per load is up. Is there anything to maybe glean from the underlying market there, or is that just agents perhaps choosing to spend their time on more lucrative business?

Speaker #3: I think with the LTL, it's really more agent-specific, which is why you're seeing a certain downturn there in customer-specific as well, too. It's not necessarily a customer preference thing that we're seeing across the board.

Jim Applegate: I think with the LTL, it's really more agent-specific, is why you're seeing a certain downturn there, and customer-specific as well, too. It's not necessarily a customer preference thing that we're seeing across the board. I wouldn't make a lot out of it. It is a smaller segment of our business, so sometimes it will have a bigger impact when you have a certain agent or certain customer where you get a little transition.

Speaker #3: So I wouldn't make a lot out of it. It is a smaller segment of our business, so sometimes it'll have a bigger impact when you have a certain agent or a certain customer where you get a little transition.

Speaker #9: Okay, super helpful. Got it. And then, just a quick point of clarification—you talked about the traction with the new agent pipeline, which is certainly good news and makes a lot of sense.

Bruce Chan: Okay. Super helpful. Got it. Just a quick point of clarification. You talked about the traction with the new agent pipeline, which is certainly good news and makes a lot of sense. Is there any liability exposure to Landstar that might maybe come from those agents' prior claims, or is that something that gets extinguished once they come under the umbrella?

Speaker #9: Is there any liability exposure to Landstar that might maybe come from those agents' prior claims, or is that something that gets extinguished once they come under the umbrella?

Speaker #3: No, they maintain a separate corporate status, and so we would not inherit liabilities from them.

Frank Lonegro: No, they maintain a separate corporate status. We would not inherit liabilities from them.

Speaker #9: Got it. Very clear. Thank you.

Bruce Chan: Got it. Very clear. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Good. Thank you.

Frank Lonegro: Good. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Weatherby from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Wetherbee from Wells Fargo. Your line's now open.

Chris Wetherbee: Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in here. I guess maybe just one question from me, just to sort of wrap up as we think about the insurance piece of this. Maybe can you give us some context on what the backlog might look like from a case perspective? I know you've increased some reserves around severity, but as you think about particularly broker liability in the two-plus months since Montgomery, has anything materially changed there as you sort of look at what you might be facing over the course of the next several quarters or a couple of years? Just get a sense of if there's more activity going on in the market would be helpful.

Speaker #9: Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in here. I guess maybe just one question for me, just to sort of wrap up, as we think about the insurance piece of this. Maybe can you give us some context on what the backlog might look like from a case perspective?

Speaker #9: I know you've increased some reserves around severity, but as you think about, particularly, broker liability—in the two-plus months since Montgomery—has anything materially changed there as you look at what you might be facing over the course of the next several quarters or a couple of years?

Speaker #9: Just getting a sense of whether there's more activity going on in the market would be helpful.

Speaker #3: Yeah. In terms of new cases or something like that, Chris, I mean, we haven't seen any meaningful uptick—or downtick, for that matter. It's been pretty much steady as she goes.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah. In terms of new cases or something like that, Chris, we haven't seen any meaningful uptick, or downtick for that matter. It's been pretty much steady as she goes. We did have a couple of cases, as JT mentioned, the three that we referenced, that were either ongoing and estimates went up or got settled. That's normal business. I just think that there's a renewed strength in the plaintiffs' bar to try to press forward in the immediate aftermath of Montgomery and certainly the Robinson verdict and godspeed to them challenging that successfully. I just think it's going to be a normal course of events where if we have an issue with a brokered carrier, we should expect that we're going to get pulled into it. To me, it's a question of, if we didn't do anything wrong, we shouldn't have to pay $1.

Speaker #3: I mean, we did have a couple of cases, as JT mentioned—the three that we referenced—that were either ongoing and estimates went up, or got settled.

Speaker #3: So that's normal business. I just think that there's a renewed strength in the plaintiff's bar to try to press forward in the immediate aftermath of Montgomery, and certainly the Robinson verdict—and Godspeed to them in challenging that successfully.

Speaker #3: But I just think it's going to be a normal course of events. If we have an issue with a brokered carrier, we should expect that we're going to get pulled into it.

Speaker #3: And to me, it's a question of: if we didn't do anything wrong, we shouldn't have to pay a dollar. But my guess is we're going to have to defend some of those, and we may end up having to settle some of those for nuisance value that, if you go back five years, we wouldn't have had to do.

Frank Lonegro: My guess is we're going to have to defend some of those, and we may end up having to settle some of those for nuisance value that if you go back five years, we wouldn't have had to do that.

Speaker #9: Okay. But it's not to say that you've necessarily seen something pick up yet—it's just been the wake-up so far. So, so far, so good, I guess, on the backlog.

Chris Wetherbee: Okay. It's not to say that you've necessarily seen something pick up yet, sort of just in the wake of so far so good, I guess, on the backlog.

Speaker #9: Okay, perfect. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it.

Frank Lonegro: Correct.

Chris Wetherbee: Okay. Perfect. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Chris.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We will take the last question from Harrison Bauer of Saskiana. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. We will take the last question from Harrison Bauer of Susquehanna. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Great, thanks for taking my question and fitting me in here. A lot of the discussion, or really historically, a lot of the inflationary part of insurance has been on the BCO side.

Harrison Bauer: Great. Thanks for taking my question, fitting me in here. A lot of the discussion or really historically, a lot of the inflationary part of insurance has been on the BCO side. Especially with some of the adverse claims on the brokerage side post Montgomery, is there any way to frame what either the total or per load claims insurance-related legal fees might be on a BCO load versus broker load? In the long run, do you see the risk for broker load converging at all towards the BCO load? Thank you.

Speaker #2: But especially with some of the adverse claims on the brokerage side post-Montgomery, is there any way to frame what either the total or per-load claims, insurance-related legal fees might be on a BCO load versus a broker load?

Speaker #2: And then in the long run, do you see the risk for broker load converging at all towards the BCO load? Thank you.

Frank Lonegro: Great question, Harrison. As you can imagine, we've had very well-developed loss triangles on BCOs going back decades. As an example, I think we had 1,600 claims last year between our trucking program and our unladen program. We can look at cost per crash in those two programs going back 20 years. On the brokerage side of the business, Harrison, they're really few and far between. With the Montgomery ruling, we went back and just looked at total loss, both the insured loss portion and the Landstar deductible portion. We used to have a $1 million deductible. That's a $2 million deductible as of a couple of years ago versus our $5 million self-insured retention on the owner-operator side.

Speaker #3: Great question, Harrison. So, as you can imagine, we've had very, very well-developed loss triangles on BCOs going back decades. As an example, I think we had 1,600 claims last year between our trucking program and our unladen program.

Speaker #3: And we can look at cost per crash in those two programs going back 20 years. On the brokerage side of the business, Harrison, they're really few and far between.

Speaker #3: So at the Montgomery ruling, we went back and just looked at total loss, both the insured loss portion and the Landstar deductible portion. We used to have a $1 million deductible.

Speaker #3: That's a $2 million deductible as of a couple of years ago, versus our $5 million self-insured retention on the owner-operator side. Very, very low.

Frank Lonegro: Very low, like less than 20 basis points, less than 25 basis points of gross brokerage revenue if you go back 15 years, again with the largest loss reflected in our financials at about $23 million. I think there's a couple $5 million losses. Below the two $5 million losses, they get smaller. Now, as I mentioned earlier on the call, that's with half the country recognizing F4A. I certainly subscribe that the frequency of brokerage losses should at least 2x, xa and bolden plaintiff counsel factor. Does it get to owner-operator type levels? No, because if you look at the vast majority of accidents, they get settled in a primary layer. The FMCSA requires a $750,000 primary insurance program to be a carrier. Landstar requires $1 million to get in our network. Probably 98% of the crashes are going to get resolved within that $1 million primary policy. The brokerage stuff comes in over and above that.

Speaker #3: Less than 20 basis points, less than 25 basis points of gross brokerage revenue if you go back 15 years, again with the largest loss reflected in our financials at about $23 million.

Speaker #3: I think there are a couple of $5 million losses, and below the $2.5 million losses, they get smaller. As I mentioned earlier on the call, that's with half the country recognizing F4A.

Speaker #3: So I certainly subscribe that the frequency of brokerage losses should at least 2x embolden plaintiff counsel factor. Does it get to owner-operator type levels?

Speaker #3: No, because if you look at the vast majority of accidents, they get settled in the primary layer, right? So the FMCSA requires the $750,000 primary insurance program to be a carrier.

Speaker #3: LANDSTAR requires $1 million to get into our network. Probably 98% of the crashes are going to get resolved within that $1 million primary policy.

Frank Lonegro: Again, that's even without F4A they're still

Speaker #3: The brokerage stuff comes in over and above that. And again, that's even without F4A. There's still—I'm not an attorney, so I have to be careful here—but you still have to demonstrate a negligent selection, or that a broker exerted control over a third-party carrier.

Frank Lonegro: Again, that's even without F4A they're still

Jim Todd: I'm not an attorney. I got to be careful here. You still have to demonstrate a negligent selection or a broker exerting control over a third-party carrier.

Frank Lonegro: Yeah. I think, Harrison, that last piece that JT just mentioned, he did pretty good as a non-lawyer. I think that's the most important thing. We had to have negligently selected that carrier. The fact that the carrier had an accident does not automatically make us liable.

Speaker #9: Yeah, and I think, Harrison, that last piece that JT just mentioned—he did pretty good as a non-lawyer—but I think that's the most important thing.

Speaker #9: We had to have negligently selected that carrier. The fact that the carrier had an accident does not automatically make us liable.

Speaker #2: Okay, great. Thank you, guys, for your time today.

Harrison Bauer: Okay, great. Thank you guys for the time today.

Speaker #3: Good. Thanks, Harrison. In closing, the management team has been energized by our interactions with BCOs and agents thus far in 2026. We are encouraged by the current freight environment and what we believe is the strongest, unsighted platform service offering—including heavy haul—in our industry.

Frank Lonegro: Thanks, Harrison. In closing, the management team has been energized by our interactions with BCOs and agents thus far in 2026. We are encouraged by the current freight environment and what we believe is the strongest unrivaled platform service offering, including heavy haul, in our industry. Regardless of the economic environment, the Landstar variable cost business model continues to generate free cash flow year after year. Landstar has always been a cyclical growth company. We are well-positioned to capitalize on the improving conditions and positive momentum in the freight markets. Thank you for joining us this afternoon. We look forward to speaking with you again on our 2026 Q3 earnings call in late October. Thank you.

Speaker #3: And regardless of the economic environment, the Landstar variable cost business model continues to generate free cash flow year after year. Landstar has always been a cyclical growth company.

Speaker #3: And we are well-positioned to capitalize on the improving conditions and positive momentum in the freight markets. Thank you for joining us this afternoon. We look forward to speaking with you again.

Speaker #3: On our 2026 third-quarter earnings call in late October. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you for joining the conference call today. Have a good evening. Please disconnect your line at this time.

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