Q2 2026 Nucor Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning, and welcome to New Quartz's second quarter 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and today's call is being recorded.
Speaker #1: After the speakers prepared remarks, I will provide instructions for callers wishing to ask questions. I would now like to introduce Kris Jacobi, Director of Investor Relations.
Operator: Good morning, welcome to Nucor's Q2 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and today's call is being recorded. After the speakers' prepared remarks, I will provide instructions for callers wishing to ask questions. I would now like to introduce Chris Jacobi, Director of Investor Relations. You may begin your call.
Operator: Good morning, welcome to Nucor's Q2 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and today's call is being recorded. After the speakers' prepared remarks, I will provide instructions for callers wishing to ask questions. I would now like to introduce Chris Jacobi, Director of Investor Relations. You may begin your call.
Speaker #1: You may begin your call.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and good morning everyone. Welcome to New Quartz's second quarter earnings review and business update. Leading our call today is Leonta Pallion, Chair and CEO, along with Steve Laxton, President and COO, and Jack Sullivan, CFO.
Speaker #1: Good morning, and welcome to Nucor's second quarter 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and today's call is being recorded.
Speaker #2: Other members of New Quartz's executive team are also here with us today. And may participate during the Q&A portion of the call. Yesterday, we posted our second quarter earnings release and investor presentation to New Quartz's IR website.
Chris Jacobi: Thank you, good morning, everyone. Welcome to Nucor's Q2 earnings review and business update. Leading our call today is Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO, along with Steve Laxton, President and COO, and Jack Sullivan, CFO. Other members of Nucor's executive team are also here with us today and may participate during the Q&A portion of the call. Yesterday, we posted our Q2 earnings release and investor presentation to Nucor's IR website. We encourage you to access these materials as we'll cover portions of them during the call. Today's discussion will include the use of non-GAAP financial measures and forward-looking information within the meaning of securities laws. Actual results may be different than forward-looking statements and involve risks outlined in our safe harbor statement and disclosed in Nucor's SEC filings. The appendix of today's presentation includes supplemental information disclosures along with a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures.
Chris Jacobi: Thank you, good morning, everyone. Welcome to Nucor's Q2 earnings review and business update. Leading our call today is Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO, along with Steve Laxton, President and COO, and Jack Sullivan, CFO. Other members of Nucor's executive team are also here with us today and may participate during the Q&A portion of the call. Yesterday, we posted our Q2 earnings release and investor presentation to Nucor's IR website. We encourage you to access these materials as we'll cover portions of them during the call.
Speaker #1: After the speakers' prepared remarks, I will provide instructions for callers wishing to ask questions. I would now like to introduce Chris Jacobi, Director of Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: You may begin your call.
Speaker #2: We encourage you to access these materials as we will cover portions of them during the call. Today's discussion will include the use of non-GAAP financial measures in forward-looking information within the meaning of securities laws.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Nucor's update. Leading our call today are Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO; Steve Laxton, President and COO; and Jack Sullivan, CFO.
Speaker #2: Actual results may be different than forward-looking statements, and involve risks outlined in our Safe Harbor statement and disclosed in New Quartz's SEC filings. The appendix of today's presentation includes supplemental information and disclosures along with a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #2: Other members of Nucor's executive team are also here with us today and may participate during the Q&A portion of the call. Yesterday, we posted our second quarter earnings release and investor presentation to Nucor's IR website.
Chris Jacobi: Today's discussion will include the use of non-GAAP financial measures and forward-looking information within the meaning of securities laws. Actual results may be different than forward-looking statements and involve risks outlined in our Safe Harbor statement and disclosed in Nucor's SEC filings. The appendix of today's presentation includes supplemental information disclosures along with a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures. With that, let's turn the call over to Leon.
Speaker #2: So, with that, let's turn the call over to Leon.
Speaker #2: We encourage you to access these materials, as we'll cover portions of them during the call. Today's discussion will include the use of non-GAAP financial measures and forward-looking information within the meaning of securities laws.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Kris. And before discussing the quarterly results, I want to begin with the most important measure our performance and our greatest value: safety. Earlier this year, we launched our safest summer ever initiative.
Speaker #2: Actual results may be different than forward-looking statements, and involve risks outlined in our Safe Harbor statement and disclosed in NUCOR's SEC filings. The appendix of today's presentation includes supplemental information and disclosures along with a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures.
Chris Jacobi: With that, let's turn the call over to Leon.
Speaker #3: Because we know that the summer months can present additional risks. As we move into August, I'm pleased to say that we're on pace to not only make this the safest summer in New Quartz's history, but also the safest year as well.
Leon Topalian: Thanks, Chris. Before discussing the quarterly results, I want to begin with the most important measure of our performance and our greatest value, safety. Earlier this year, we launched our Safest Summer Ever initiative because we know that the summer months can present additional risks. As we move into August, I'm pleased to say that we're on pace to not only make this the safest summer in Nucor's history, but also the safest year as well. While I'm proud of our progress, our job isn't finished. Let's remain focused and make sure every one of our teammates goes home safely at the end of every shift. Turning to our financial results, Nucor delivered another strong quarter with improved earnings across all three operating segments. We generated approximately $2 billion of EBITDA and earned $5.04 per share, excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20. Adjusted earnings were $4.84 per share.
Leon Topalian: Thanks, Chris. Before discussing the quarterly results, I want to begin with the most important measure of our performance and our greatest value, safety. Earlier this year, we launched our Safest Summer Ever initiative because we know that the summer months can present additional risks. As we move into August, I'm pleased to say that we're on pace to not only make this the safest summer in Nucor's history, but also the safest year as well.
Speaker #2: So with that, let's turn the call over to Leon.
Speaker #3: While I'm proud of our progress, our job isn't finished. Let's remain focused and make sure every one of our teammates goes home safely at the end of every shift.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Chris. And before discussing the quarterly results, I want to begin with the most important measure our performance and our greatest value: safety. Earlier this year, we launched our safest summer ever initiative.
Speaker #3: Turning to our financial results, New Quartz delivered another strong quarter with improved earnings across all three operating segments. We generated approximately $2 billion of EBITDA and earned $5.04 per share.
Speaker #3: Because we know that the summer months can present additional risks. As we move into August, I'm pleased to say that we're on pace to not only make this the safest summer in Nucor's history, but also the safest year as well.
Leon Topalian: While I'm proud of our progress, our job isn't finished. Let's remain focused and make sure every one of our teammates goes home safely at the end of every shift. Turning to our financial results, Nucor delivered another strong quarter with improved earnings across all three operating segments. We generated approximately $2 billion of EBITDA and earned $5.04 per share, excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20. Adjusted earnings were $4.84 per share.
Speaker #3: Excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20, adjusted earnings, we're $4.84 per share. During the quarter, we returned $479 million to New Quartz shareholders through dividends and share buybacks.
Speaker #3: While I'm proud of our progress, our job isn't finished. Let's remain focused and make sure every one of our teammates goes home safely at the end of every shift.
Speaker #3: We're representing 41% of our net earnings. Capital expenditures totaled $571 million in the quarter, and we still expect to reinvest approximately $2.5 billion for the year, with about 60% of that allocated toward growth projects.
Speaker #3: Turning to our financial results, NUCOR delivered another strong quarter with improved earnings across all three operating segments. We generated approximately $2 billion of EBITDA and earned $5.04 per share.
Leon Topalian: During the quarter, we returned $479 million to Nucor shareholders through dividends and share buybacks, representing 41% of our net earnings. Capital expenditures totaled $571 million in the quarter, and we still expect to reinvest approximately $2.5 billion for the year, with about 60% of that allocated toward growth projects. Moving to our operational performance, demand for steel and steel products remains strong across most of our key end markets, and our teams continue to execute exceptionally well. In the steel mills, quarterly shipments reached an all-time high of 7.1 million tons. This is the second straight quarter we've set a new record. We're seeing strength across all of our product categories and are benefiting from the investments we've made to grow our core steelmaking capabilities over the past few years.
Leon Topalian: During the quarter, we returned $479 million to Nucor shareholders through dividends and share buybacks, representing 41% of our net earnings. Capital expenditures totaled $571 million in the quarter, and we still expect to reinvest approximately $2.5 billion for the year, with about 60% of that allocated toward growth projects.
Speaker #3: Excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20, adjusted earnings, we're $4.84 per share. During the quarter, we returned $479 million to NUCOR shareholders through dividends and share buybacks.
Speaker #3: Moving to our operational performance, demand for steel and steel products remained strong across most of our key end markets, and our teams continue to execute exceptionally well.
Speaker #3: Representing 41% of our net earnings. Capital expenditures totaled $571 million in the quarter, and we still expect to reinvest approximately $2.5 billion for the year, with about 60% of that allocated toward growth projects.
Speaker #3: In the steel mills, quarterly shipments reached an all-time high of 7.1 million tons, this is the second straight quarter we've set a new record.
Leon Topalian: Moving to our operational performance, demand for steel and steel products remains strong across most of our key end markets, and our teams continue to execute exceptionally well. In the steel mills, quarterly shipments reached an all-time high of 7.1 million tons. This is the second straight quarter we've set a new record. We're seeing strength across all of our product categories and are benefiting from the investments we've made to grow our core steelmaking capabilities over the past few years.
Speaker #3: We're seeing strength across all of our product categories, and our benefiting from the investments we've made to grow our quarter steelmaking capabilities over the past few years.
Speaker #3: Moving to our operational performance, demand for steel and steel products remains strong across most of our key end markets, and our teams continue to execute exceptionally well.
Speaker #3: In particular, I want to recognize our team at Brandenburg, which shipped more than 230,000 tons this quarter, leading to another quarterly shipment record in plate.
Speaker #3: In the steel mills, quarterly shipments reached an all-time high of 7.1 million tons. This is the second straight quarter we've set a new record.
Speaker #3: In steel products, shipments were up 11% versus Q1, with growth across all major products in the portfolio. This performance was led by our two group, which posted a second consecutive quarterly shipment record and strong earnings.
Leon Topalian: In particular, I want to recognize our team at Brandenburg, which shipped more than 230,000 tons this quarter, leading to another quarterly shipment record in plate. In steel products, shipments were up 11% versus Q1, with growth across all major products in the portfolio. This performance was led by our tube group, which posted a second consecutive quarterly shipment record and strong earnings. Even as our shipments grow, our backlogs continue to build. This reflects the business momentum we are seeing from our customers across a broad set of sectors in the economy. Our team is executing at a very high level right now. Execution is critical, but so is having a level playing field.
Leon Topalian: In particular, I want to recognize our team at Brandenburg, which shipped more than 230,000 tons this quarter, leading to another quarterly shipment record in plate. In steel products, shipments were up 11% versus Q1, with growth across all major products in the portfolio. This performance was led by our tube group, which posted a second consecutive quarterly shipment record and strong earnings.
Speaker #3: We're seeing strength across all of our product categories, and are benefiting from the investments we've made to grow our core steelmaking capabilities over the past few years.
Speaker #3: And even as our shipments grow, our backlogs continue to build. This reflects the business momentum we are seeing from our customers across a broad set of sectors in the economy.
Speaker #3: In particular, I want to recognize our team at Brandenburg, which shipped more than 230,000 tons this quarter, leading to another quarterly shipment record in plate.
Speaker #3: Our team is executing at a very high level right now, execution is critical, but so is having a level playing field. While we saw an increase from the first quarter, finished steel imports are down 25% year over year, due to the strengthening of the 232 program, along with anti-dumping and countervailing duties on corrosion-resistant steel and other steel products.
Speaker #3: In steel products, shipments were up 11% versus Q1, with growth across all major products in the portfolio. This performance was led by our Tubular Group, which posted a second consecutive quarterly shipment record and strong earnings.
Leon Topalian: Even as our shipments grow, our backlogs continue to build. This reflects the business momentum we are seeing from our customers across a broad set of sectors in the economy. Our team is executing at a very high level right now. Execution is critical, but so is having a level playing field.
Speaker #3: And even as our shipments grow, our backlogs continue to build. This reflects the business momentum we are seeing from our customers across a broad set of sectors in the economy.
Leon Topalian: While we saw an increase from Q1, finished steel imports are down 25% year over year due to the strengthening of the 232 program, along with Anti-Dumping and Countervailing Duties on corrosion-resistant steel and other steel products. The impacts are real, and they are measurable. Vigorous enforcement of our trade laws is helping level the playing field for domestic producers by curtailing the flood of unfairly traded steel into the US market. Earlier this month, as expected, the Trump administration announced it has opted not to renew the USMCA trade agreement unless changes are made. This decision triggers an annual review process that provides a real opportunity to improve demand for the North American content while closing loopholes that operate to the detriment of the American industry.
Leon Topalian: While we saw an increase from Q1, finished steel imports are down 25% year-over-year due to the strengthening of the 232 program, along with Anti-Dumping and Countervailing Duties on corrosion-resistant steel and other steel products. The impacts are real, and they are measurable. Vigorous enforcement of our trade laws is helping level the playing field for domestic producers by curtailing the flood of unfairly traded steel into the US market.
Speaker #3: The impacts are real, and they are measurable. Vigorous enforcement of our trade laws is helping level the playing field for domestic producers by curtailing the flood of unfairly traded steel into the U.S.
Speaker #3: Our team is executing at a very high level right now. Execution is critical, but so is having a level playing field. While we saw an increase from the first quarter, finished steel imports are down 25% year over year due to the strengthening of the 232 program, along with anti-dumping and countervailing duties on corrosion-resistant steel and other steel products.
Speaker #3: market. Earlier this month, as expected, the Trump administration announced it has opted not to renew the USMCA trade agreement unless changes are made. This decision triggers an annual review process that provides a real opportunity to improve demand for the North American content while closing loopholes that operate to the detriment of the American industry.
Leon Topalian: Earlier this month, as expected, the Trump administration announced it has opted not to renew the USMCA trade agreement unless changes are made. This decision triggers an annual review process that provides a real opportunity to improve demand for the North American content while closing loopholes that operate to the detriment of the American industry.
Speaker #3: The impacts are real, and they are measurable. Vigorous enforcement of our trade laws is helping level the playing field for domestic producers by curtailing the flood of unfairly traded steel into the U.S. market.
Speaker #3: One important change we hope to see is a requirement that all steel used in any steel or steel-intensive products must be melted and poured in North America to qualify as USMCA compliant.
Speaker #3: Earlier this month, as expected, the Trump administration announced it has opted not to renew the USMCA trade agreement unless changes are made. This decision triggers an annual review process that provides a real opportunity to improve demand for the North American content while closing loopholes that operate to the detriment of the American industry.
Speaker #3: We also believe that North American steel purchasing requirement for automotive products should be increased, with a melted and poured requirement effective immediately. Finally, a renewed agreement should require Canada and Mexico to take additional steps to prevent excess capacity from non-USMCA economies particularly China, from entering North American supply chains and undermining our industries and workers.
Leon Topalian: One important change we hope to see is a requirement that all steel used in any steel or steel-intensive products must be melted and poured in North America to qualify as USMCA compliant. We also believe the North American steel purchasing requirement for automotive products should be increased with a melted and poured requirement effective immediately. Finally, a renewed agreement should require Canada and Mexico to take additional steps to prevent excess capacity from non-USMCA economies, particularly China, from entering North American supply chains and undermining our industries and workers. Beyond USMCA, the US Trade Representative is currently conducting investigations under Section 301. We support the administration use of tools like these to level the playing field for American manufacturers and achieve balanced trade.
Leon Topalian: One important change we hope to see is a requirement that all steel used in any steel or steel-intensive products must be melted and poured in North America to qualify as USMCA compliant. We also believe the North American steel purchasing requirement for automotive products should be increased with a melted and poured requirement effective immediately.
Speaker #3: One important change we hope to see is a requirement that all steel used in any steel or steel-intensive products must be melted and poured in North America to qualify as USMCA compliant.
Leon Topalian: Finally, a renewed agreement should require Canada and Mexico to take additional steps to prevent excess capacity from non-USMCA economies, particularly China, from entering North American supply chains and undermining our industries and workers. Beyond USMCA, the US Trade Representative is currently conducting investigations under Section 301. We support the administration use of tools like these to level the playing field for American manufacturers and achieve balanced trade.
Speaker #3: Beyond USMCA, the U.S. trade representative is currently conducting investigations under Section 301. We support the administration's use of tools like these to level the playing field for American manufacturers and achieve balanced trade.
Speaker #3: We also believe the North American steel purchasing requirement for automotive products should be increased, with a melted and poured requirement effective immediately. Finally, a renewed agreement should require Canada and Mexico to take additional steps to prevent excess capacity from non-USMCA economies, particularly China, from entering North American supply chains and undermining our industries and workers.
Speaker #3: We also commend the administration's decision to act consistently with Section 232 program and exempt vital steelmaking inputs and raw materials from the final action in the Brazil enforced labor 301 investigations.
Speaker #3: Beyond USMCA, the U.S. Trade Representative is currently conducting investigations under Section 301. We support the administration's use of tools like these to level the playing field for American manufacturers and achieve balanced trade.
Speaker #3: We urge the administration to do the same in all other 301 investigations. These are more than simply trade policy priorities. They're investments in America's long-term industrial strength.
Leon Topalian: We also commend the administration's decision to act consistently with Section 232 program and exempt vital steel making inputs and raw materials from the final action in the Brazil enforced labor 301 investigations. We urge the administration to do the same in all other 301 investigations. These are more than simply trade policy priorities. They're investments in America's long-term industrial strength. With our nation recently celebrating its 250th anniversary, it's worth remembering that America's success has been built not only on freedom, but also on the ingenuity, resilience, and productive capacity of American manufacturing. A robust industrial base has always been essential to our economic prosperity and our national security. For generations, steel has been the backbone of America's growth, security, and prosperity, and it will remain essential for generations to come.
Leon Topalian: We also commend the administration's decision to act consistently with Section 232 program and exempt vital steel making inputs and raw materials from the final action in the Brazil enforced labor 301 investigations. We urge the administration to do the same in all other 301 investigations. These are more than simply trade policy priorities. They're investments in America's long-term industrial strength.
Speaker #3: With our nation recently celebrating its 250th anniversary, it's worth remembering that America's success has been built not only on freedom, but also on the ingenuity, resilience, and productive capacity of American manufacturing.
Speaker #3: We also commend the administration's decision to act consistently with the Section 232 program and exempt vital steelmaking inputs and raw materials from the final action in the Brazil enforced labor 301 investigations.
Leon Topalian: With our nation recently celebrating its 250th anniversary, it's worth remembering that America's success has been built not only on freedom, but also on the ingenuity, resilience, and productive capacity of American manufacturing. A robust industrial base has always been essential to our economic prosperity and our national security. For generations, steel has been the backbone of America's growth, security, and prosperity, and it will remain essential for generations to come.
Speaker #3: A robust industrial base has always been essential to our economic prosperity and our national security. For generations, steel has been the backbone of America's growth, security, and prosperity.
Speaker #3: We urge the administration to do the same in all other 301 investigations. These are more than simply trade policy priorities. They're investments in America's long-term industrial strength.
Speaker #3: With our nation recently celebrating its 250th anniversary, it's worth remembering that America's success has been built not only on freedom, but also on the ingenuity, resilience, and productive capacity of American manufacturing.
Speaker #3: And it will remain essential for generations to come. At New Quartz, we are proud to help build the bridges, buildings, energy infrastructure, manufacturing facilities, and defense capabilities that keep our country strong.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Steve for an update on our growth initiatives and market outlook. Steve?
Speaker #3: A robust industrial base has always been essential to our economic prosperity and our national security. For generations, steel has been the backbone of America's growth, security, and prosperity.
Leon Topalian: At Nucor, we are proud to help build the bridges, buildings, energy infrastructure, manufacturing facilities, and defense capabilities that keep our country strong. With that, I'll turn it over to Steve for an update on our growth initiatives and market outlook. Steve?
Leon Topalian: At Nucor, we are proud to help build the bridges, buildings, energy infrastructure, manufacturing facilities, and defense capabilities that keep our country strong. With that, I'll turn it over to Steve for an update on our growth initiatives and market outlook. Steve?
Speaker #2: Thank you, Leon, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Our team is continuing to make great progress at our new sheet metal project in West Virginia.
Speaker #3: And it will remain essential for generations to come. At Nucor, we are proud to help build the bridges, buildings, energy infrastructure, manufacturing facilities, and defense capabilities that keep our country strong.
Speaker #2: We remain on time and on budget, with continued excellent safety performance. The team has achieved several important milestones over the past two months. In June, we ran our first coil through the pickle line.
Stephen D. Laxton: Thank you, Leon, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Our team is continuing to make great progress at our new sheet mill project in West Virginia. We remain on time and on budget with continued excellent safety performance. The team has achieved several important milestones over the past two months. In June, we ran our first coil through the pickle line, and earlier this month, we began commissioning of the melt shop in both the automotive and construction gal lines. Later this year, we will expand that to the cold mill and hot mill, keeping us on track to complete commissioning, inspection, and testing of equipment across the mill by the end of the year. Our startup plan is unchanged. Following commissioning, our priority will be to operate safely and reliably as commercial shipments begin to ramp in early 2027.
Steve Laxton: Thank you, Leon, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Our team is continuing to make great progress at our new sheet mill project in West Virginia. We remain on time and on budget with continued excellent safety performance. The team has achieved several important milestones over the past two months. In June, we ran our first coil through the pickle line, and earlier this month, we began commissioning of the melt shop in both the automotive and construction gal lines.
Speaker #2: And earlier this month, we began commissioning of the melt shop and both the automotive and construction galve lines. Later this year, we will expand that to the cold mill and hot mill.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Steve for an update on our growth initiatives and market outlook. Steve?
Speaker #2: Thank you, Leon, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Our team is continuing to make great progress at our new sheet metal project in West Virginia.
Speaker #2: Keeping us on track to complete commissioning inspection and testing of equipment across the mill by the end of the year. Our startup plant is unchanged.
Speaker #2: We remain on time and on budget, with continued excellent safety performance. The team has achieved several important milestones over the past two months. In June, we ran our first coil through the pickle line.
Speaker #2: Following commissioning, our priority will be to operate safely and reliably as commercial shipments begin to ramp in early 2027. Capacity utilization and product offerings will be building steadily throughout 2027 and into 2028.
Steve Laxton: Later this year, we will expand that to the cold mill and hot mill, keeping us on track to complete commissioning, inspection, and testing of equipment across the mill by the end of the year. Our startup plan is unchanged. Following commissioning, our priority will be to operate safely and reliably as commercial shipments begin to ramp in early 2027.
Speaker #2: And earlier this month, we began commissioning the melt shop in both the automotive and construction galv lines. Later this year, we will expand that to the cold mill and hot mill.
Speaker #2: In addition to West Virginia, we're making steady progress across our other major capital projects that are either under construction or ramping up. On the construction front, we expect to complete our Berkeley galve line the full range of our Crawfordsville coating operation, and Indiana Towers and structures facility later this year.
Speaker #2: Keeping us on track to complete commissioning inspection and testing of equipment across the mill by the end of the year. Our startup plant is unchanged.
Stephen D. Laxton: Capacity utilization and product offerings will be building steadily throughout 2027 and into 2028. In addition to West Virginia, we're making steady progress across our other major capital projects that are either under construction or ramping up. On the construction front, we expect to complete our Berkeley gal line, the full range of our Crawfordsville coating operation, and Indiana Towers and Structures facility later this year. We also expect our Utah Towers and Structures facility to reach full production by mid-2027. Turning to our recently completed growth projects, we continue to advance their strategic and commercial plans. Many of these projects, including our Lexington Micro Mill and our Kingman Melt Shop, reached EBITDA positive run rates during Q1, while others, like our Alabama Towers and Structures facility, are expected to reach EBITDA positive later this year.
Steve Laxton: Capacity utilization and product offerings will be building steadily throughout 2027 and into 2028. In addition to West Virginia, we're making steady progress across our other major capital projects that are either under construction or ramping up. On the construction front, we expect to complete our Berkeley gal line, the full range of our Crawfordsville coating operation, and Indiana Towers and Structures facility later this year.
Speaker #2: Following commissioning, our priority will be to operate safely and reliably as commercial shipments begin to ramp in early 2027. Capacity utilization and product offerings will be building steadily throughout 2027 and into 2028.
Speaker #2: We also expect our Utah Towers and structures facility to reach full production by mid-2027. Turning to our recently completed growth projects, we continue to advance their strategic and commercial plans.
Speaker #2: In addition to West Virginia, we're making steady progress across our other major capital projects that are either under construction or ramping up. On the construction front, we expect to complete our Berkeley GALV line, the full range of our Crawfordsville coating operation, and Indiana Towers and Structures facility later this year.
Speaker #2: Many of these projects including our Lexington Micro Mill and our Kingman Melt Shop reached EBITDA positive run rates during the first quarter, while others like our Alabama Towers and structures facility are expected to reach EBITDA positive later this year.
Steve Laxton: We also expect our Utah Towers and Structures facility to reach full production by mid-2027. Turning to our recently completed growth projects, we continue to advance their strategic and commercial plans. Many of these projects, including our Lexington Micro Mill and our Kingman Melt Shop, reached EBITDA positive run rates during Q1, while others, like our Alabama Towers and Structures facility, are expected to reach EBITDA positive later this year.
Speaker #2: Across these projects, performance has improved steadily throughout the year. And we expect that trend to continue as they ramp to their full run rates.
Speaker #2: We also expect our Utah Towers and Structures facility to reach full production by mid-2027. Turning to our recently completed growth projects, we continue to advance their strategic and commercial plans.
Speaker #2: Leon spoke earlier about the operational results in our steel mill and our steel product segments. Building on that, I'd like to share how we're thinking about the current market environment and outlook for each of our businesses.
Speaker #2: Many of these projects, including our Lexington micro mill and our Kingman melt shop, reached EBITDA-positive run rates during the first quarter, while others, like our Alabama towers and structures facility, are expected to reach EBITDA-positive later this year.
Stephen D. Laxton: Across these projects, performance has improved steadily throughout the year, and we expect that trend to continue as they ramp to their full run rates. Leon spoke earlier about the operational results in our steel mill and our steel product segments. Building on that, I would like to share how we are thinking about the current market environment and outlook for each of our businesses. Overall, the strength we see across the broad set of end markets is very encouraging. We now expect shipment growth to finish closer to the higher end of our previously suggested 5% to 10% range for 2026. Beginning with flat products, we have seen double-digit shipment growth in both our sheet and plate groups in H1. Within sheet, underlying demand is strong, and we expect that to continue into 2027, led by energy, advanced manufacturing, and data centers.
Steve Laxton: Across these projects, performance has improved steadily throughout the year, and we expect that trend to continue as they ramp to their full run rates. Leon spoke earlier about the operational results in our steel mill and our steel product segments. Building on that, I would like to share how we are thinking about the current market environment and outlook for each of our businesses. Overall, the strength we see across the broad set of end markets is very encouraging.
Speaker #2: Overall, the strength we see across the broad set of end markets is very encouraging. We now expect shipment growth to finish closer to the higher end of our previously suggested 5 to 10 percent range for 2026.
Speaker #2: Across these projects, performance has improved steadily throughout the year. And we expect that trend to continue as they ramp to their full run rates.
Speaker #2: Beginning with flat products, we've seen double-digit shipment growth in both our sheet and plate groups in the first half of the year. Within sheet, underlying demand is strong, and we expect that to continue into 2027, led by energy advanced manufacturing and data centers.
Speaker #2: Leon spoke earlier about the operational results in our steel mill and our steel products segments. Building on that, I'd like to share how we're thinking about the current market environment and outlook for each of our businesses.
Steve Laxton: We now expect shipment growth to finish closer to the higher end of our previously suggested 5% to 10% range for 2026. Beginning with flat products, we have seen double-digit shipment growth in both our sheet and plate groups in H1. Within sheet, underlying demand is strong, and we expect that to continue into 2027, led by energy, advanced manufacturing, and data centers.
Speaker #2: Overall, the strength we see across the broad set of end markets is very encouraging. We now expect shipment growth to finish closer to the higher end of our previously suggested 5 to 10 percent range for 2026.
Speaker #2: In plate, although domestic consumption has moderated from the 2025 levels, demand remains healthy across many important end markets while imports have fallen significantly. That backdrop, combined with our expanded plate capabilities, positions us well heading into the second half of the year.
Speaker #2: Beginning with flat products, we've seen double-digit shipment growth in both our sheet and plate groups in the first half of the year. Within sheet, underlying demand is strong, and we expect that to continue into 2027.
Stephen D. Laxton: In plate, although domestic consumption has moderated from the 2025 levels, demand remains healthy across many important end markets while imports have fallen significantly. That backdrop, combined with our expanded plate capabilities, positions us well heading into H2. Moving to long products, our bar and structural mills have also seen a meaningful step-up in shipments year to date. In our bar group, rising rebar demand reflects a sustained multi-year construction cycle with energy, infrastructure, advanced manufacturing, and data centers more than offsetting softness in residential construction. In structural, domestic consumption has increased approximately 15% this year, fueled by data centers and other mega projects. While higher imports have absorbed some of that incremental demand, our backlogs are up significantly compared to prior years, and we expect that strength to carry into next year. Nucor is unparalleled in its geographic reach, product diversity, and size.
Steve Laxton: In plate, although domestic consumption has moderated from the 2025 levels, demand remains healthy across many important end markets while imports have fallen significantly. That backdrop, combined with our expanded plate capabilities, positions us well heading into H2. Moving to long products, our bar and structural mills have also seen a meaningful step-up in shipments year to date. In our bar group, rising rebar demand reflects a sustained multi-year construction cycle with energy, infrastructure, advanced manufacturing, and data centers more than offsetting softness in residential construction.
Speaker #2: Moving to long products, our bar and structural mills have also seen a meaningful step up in shipments year to date. In our bar group, rising rebar demand reflects a sustained multi-year construction cycle with energy infrastructure advanced manufacturing and data centers more than offsetting softness in residential construction.
Speaker #2: Led by energy, advanced manufacturing, and data centers. In plate, although domestic consumption has moderated from the 2025 levels, demand remains healthy across many important end markets while imports have fallen significantly.
Speaker #2: In structural, domestic consumption has increased approximately 15 percent this year, fueled by data centers and other mega projects. While higher imports have absorbed some of that incremental demand, our backlogs are up significantly compared to prior years.
Speaker #2: That backdrop, combined with our expanded plate capabilities, positions us well heading into the second half of the year. Moving to long products, our bar and structural mills have also seen a meaningful step-up in shipments year to date.
Speaker #2: And we expect that strength to carry into next year. New Quartz unparalleled in its geographic reach, product diversity, and size. These factors are allowing our team to optimize at scale to more effectively and more efficiently meet customer needs.
Speaker #2: In our bar group, rising rebar demand reflects a sustained multi-year construction cycle, with energy infrastructure, advanced manufacturing, and data centers more than offsetting softness in residential construction.
Steve Laxton: In structural, domestic consumption has increased approximately 15% this year, fueled by data centers and other mega projects. While higher imports have absorbed some of that incremental demand, our backlogs are up significantly compared to prior years, and we expect that strength to carry into next year. Nucor is unparalleled in its geographic reach, product diversity, and size.
Speaker #2: In structural, domestic consumption has increased approximately 15% this year, fueled by data centers and other mega projects. While higher imports have absorbed some of that incremental demand, our backlogs are up significantly compared to prior years.
Speaker #2: Finally, our steel product segment represents one of the broadest and most diverse portfolio of steel construction products in North America. Throughout these businesses, we're seeing many of the same demand drivers as in our steel mill segment, with order visibility extending into 2027 for many products.
Stephen D. Laxton: These factors are allowing our team to optimize at scale to more effectively and more efficiently meet customer needs. Finally, our steel product segment represents one of the broadest and most diverse portfolio of steel construction products in North America. Throughout these businesses, we are seeing many of the same demand drivers as in our steel mill segment, with order visibility extending into 2027 for many products. Looking to H2, we expect continued momentum across our steel products group, along with further margin expansion over time as higher realized pricing more than offsets higher steel input cost. With that, I will turn it over to Jack for a closer look at our Q2 financial results and our outlook for Q3. Jack?
Steve Laxton: These factors are allowing our team to optimize at scale to more effectively and more efficiently meet customer needs. Finally, our steel product segment represents one of the broadest and most diverse portfolio of steel construction products in North America. Throughout these businesses, we are seeing many of the same demand drivers as in our steel mill segment, with order visibility extending into 2027 for many products.
Speaker #2: And we expect that strength to carry into next year. Nucor is unparalleled in its geographic reach, product diversity, and size. These factors are allowing our team to optimize at scale to more effectively and more efficiently meet customer needs.
Speaker #2: Looking to the second half of the year, we expect continued momentum across our steel products group, along with further margin expansion over time as higher realized pricing more than offsets higher steel input cost.
Speaker #2: Finally, our steel products segment represents one of the broadest and most diverse portfolios of steel construction products in North America. Throughout these businesses, we're seeing many of the same demand drivers as in our steel mill segment, with order visibility extending into 2027 for many products.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn it over to Jack for a closer look at our second quarter financial results and our outlook for the third quarter.
Steve Laxton: Looking to H2, we expect continued momentum across our steel products group, along with further margin expansion over time as higher realized pricing more than offsets higher steel input cost. With that, I will turn it over to Jack for a closer look at our Q2 financial results and our outlook for Q3. Jack?
Speaker #2: Jack?
Speaker #3: Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, New Quartz generated net earnings of $1.2 billion. Or $5.04 per share. Exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range by 29 cents.
Speaker #2: Looking to the second half of the year, we expect continued momentum across our steel products group, along with further margin expansion over time as higher realized pricing more than offsets higher steel input cost.
Speaker #3: Excluding a non-cash benefit of 20 cents related to an increase in the value of our Helion investment, adjusted earnings were $4.84 per share. The beat relative to our mid-quarter guidance was largely due to better-than-anticipated results in our steel mills segment, with many divisions outpacing their June forecast.
Jack Sullivan: Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. In Q2, Nucor generated net earnings of $1.2 billion, or $5.4 per share, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range by $0.29.
Jack Sullivan: Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. In Q2, Nucor generated net earnings of $1.2 billion, or $5.4 per share, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range by $0.29. Excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20 related to an increase in the value of our Helion investment, adjusted earnings were $4.84 per share. The beat relative to our mid-quarter guidance was largely due to better than anticipated results in our Steel Mills Segment, with many divisions outpacing their June forecast. Steel Products Segment and Raw Materials Segment also came in ahead of forecast.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn it over to Jack for a closer look at our second quarter financial results and our outlook for the third quarter.
Speaker #2: Jack?
Speaker #3: Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, NUCOR generated net earnings of $1.2 billion. Or $5.04 per share. Exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range by 29 cents.
Jack Sullivan: Excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20 related to an increase in the value of our Helion investment, adjusted earnings were $4.84 per share. The beat relative to our mid-quarter guidance was largely due to better than anticipated results in our Steel Mills Segment, with many divisions outpacing their June forecast. Steel Products Segment and Raw Materials Segment also came in ahead of forecast. Let me now review our Q2 performance by segment. The Steel Mill Segment generated $1.6 billion of pre-tax earnings, an increase of more than 35% from the prior quarter. Higher average selling prices, especially in our sheet and plate groups, were the largest drivers of the quarterly increase. Even with three fewer calendar days compared to the prior quarter, Q2 shipments for the Steel Mill Segment grew slightly.
Speaker #3: Steel products and raw materials segments also came in ahead of forecast. Let me now review our second quarter performance by segment. The steel mill segment generated $1.6 billion of pre-tax earnings, an increase of more than 35 percent from the prior quarter.
Speaker #3: Excluding a non-cash benefit of $0.20 related to an increase in the value of our Helion investment, adjusted earnings were $4.84 per share. The beat relative to our mid-quarter guidance was largely due to better-than-anticipated results in our steel mills segment, with many divisions outpacing their June forecast.
Speaker #3: Higher average selling prices, especially in our sheet and plate groups, were the largest drivers of the quarterly increase. And even with three few calendar days compared to the prior quarter, Q2 shipments for the steel mills segment grew slightly.
Jack Sullivan: Let me now review our Q2 performance by segment. The Steel Mill Segment generated $1.6 billion of pre-tax earnings, an increase of more than 35% from the prior quarter. Higher average selling prices, especially in our sheet and plate groups, were the largest drivers of the quarterly increase. Even with three fewer calendar days compared to the prior quarter, Q2 shipments for the Steel Mill Segment grew slightly.
Speaker #3: Steel products and raw materials segments also came in ahead of forecast. Let me now review our second quarter performance by segment. The steel mill segment generated $1.6 billion of pre-tax earnings.
Speaker #3: The results also reflect 130 million dollars of cash refunds associated with prior period raw material procurement costs. Primarily related to pig iron. Turning to steel products, we generated pre-tax earnings of $353 million up more than 75 million from the first quarter.
Speaker #3: An increase of more than 35% from the prior quarter. Higher average selling prices, especially in our sheet and plate groups, were the largest drivers of the quarterly increase.
Jack Sullivan: The results also reflect $130 million of cash refunds associated with prior period raw material procurement costs, primarily related to pig iron. Turning to our Steel Products Segment, we generated pre-tax earnings of $353 million, up more than $75 million from the Q1. Volumes increased 11% on stable pricing, with the volume growth occurring across all of our major product lines. In our Raw Materials Segment, we generated pre-tax earnings of $146 million compared to $45 million in the prior quarter, reflecting higher volumes and improved margins. Our DRI operations benefited from a higher transfer price as we base internal DRI sales on pig iron pricing, which has risen over the past several months on strong demand in the US. We also saw improved performance in our scrap processing operations. Pre-operating and start-up costs totaled $120 million for the quarter.
Jack Sullivan: The results also reflect $130 million of cash refunds associated with prior period raw material procurement costs, primarily related to pig iron. Turning to our Steel Products Segment, we generated pre-tax earnings of $353 million, up more than $75 million from the Q1. Volumes increased 11% on stable pricing, with the volume growth occurring across all of our major product lines.
Speaker #3: And even with three fewer calendar days compared to the prior quarter, Q2 shipments for the steel mills segment grew slightly. The results also reflect $130 million of cash refunds associated with prior period raw material procurement costs.
Speaker #3: Volumes increased 11 percent on stable pricing with the volume growth occurring across all of our major product lines. And in our raw materials segment, we generated pre-tax earnings of $146 million compared to 45 million in the prior quarter, reflecting higher volumes and improved margins.
Speaker #3: Primarily related to pig iron. Turning to steel products, we generated pre-tax earnings of $353 million, up more than $75 million from the first quarter.
Speaker #3: Our DRI operations benefited from a higher transfer price as we base internal DRI sales on pig iron pricing, which has risen over the past several months on strong demand in the US.
Jack Sullivan: In our Raw Materials Segment, we generated pre-tax earnings of $146 million compared to $45 million in the prior quarter, reflecting higher volumes and improved margins. Our DRI operations benefited from a higher transfer price as we base internal DRI sales on pig iron pricing, which has risen over the past several months on strong demand in the US. We also saw improved performance in our scrap processing operations. Pre-operating and start-up costs totaled $120 million for the quarter.
Speaker #3: Volumes increased 11% on stable pricing, with the volume growth occurring across all of our major product lines. In our raw materials segment, we generated pre-tax earnings of $146 million compared to $45 million in the prior quarter, reflecting higher volumes and improved margins.
Speaker #3: We also saw improved performance in our scrap processing operations. Pre-operating and startup costs totaled $120 million for the quarter, we expect these costs to remain elevated through the rest of 2026 and throughout '27 as we complete construction and ramp up production at our Greenfield sheet mill in West Virginia.
Speaker #3: Our DRI operations benefited from a higher transfer price, as we base internal DRI sales on pig iron pricing, which has risen over the past several months on strong demand in the U.S.
Speaker #3: Turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation, our strong investment-grade credit profile has long been central to New Quartz's success. Enabling us to consistently invest in growth while delivering meaningful returns to shareholders.
Jack Sullivan: We expect these costs to remain elevated through the rest of 2026 and throughout 2027 as we complete construction and ramp up production at our Greenfield sheet mill in West Virginia. Turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation, our strong investment-grade credit profile has long been central to Nucor's success, enabling us to consistently invest in growth while delivering meaningful returns to shareholders. We ended the quarter with approximately $2.7 billion in cash and liquidity of $3.4 billion. Total debt as a percentage of capital sits at 23%, and our credit ratings remain the strongest of any North American steel producer. During the quarter, we generated $829 million in free cash flow, our strongest quarter since 2023, as higher earnings drove improved cash from operations and CapEx moderated to $571 million.
Jack Sullivan: We expect these costs to remain elevated through the rest of 2026 and throughout 2027 as we complete construction and ramp up production at our Greenfield sheet mill in West Virginia. Turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation, our strong investment-grade credit profile has long been central to Nucor's success, enabling us to consistently invest in growth while delivering meaningful returns to shareholders.
Speaker #3: We also saw improved performance in our scrap processing operations. Pre-operating and startup costs totaled $120 million for the quarter. We expect these costs to remain elevated through the rest of 2026 and throughout '27 as we complete construction and ramp up production at our greenfield sheet mill in West Virginia.
Speaker #3: We ended the quarter with approximately 2.7 billion in cash and liquidity of 3.4 billion. Total debt as a percentage of capital sits at 23 percent, and our credit ratings remain the strongest of any North American steel producer.
Speaker #3: Turning to the balance sheet and capital allocation, our strong investment-grade credit profile has long been central to Nucor's success, enabling us to consistently invest in growth while delivering meaningful returns to shareholders.
Jack Sullivan: We ended the quarter with approximately $2.7 billion in cash and liquidity of $3.4 billion. Total debt as a percentage of capital sits at 23%, and our credit ratings remain the strongest of any North American steel producer. During the quarter, we generated $829 million in free cash flow, our strongest quarter since 2023, as higher earnings drove improved cash from operations and CapEx moderated to $571 million.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we generated $829 million in free cash flow. Our strongest quarter since 2023, as higher earnings drove improved cash from operations, and capex moderated to $571 million.
Speaker #3: We ended the quarter with approximately $2.7 billion in cash and liquidity of $3.4 billion. Total debt as a percentage of capital sits at 23%, and our credit ratings remain the strongest of any North American steel producer.
Speaker #3: We also returned $479 million to shareholders, through dividends and share repurchases, an increase of more than 200 million from the first quarter, and representing 41 percent of quarterly net earnings.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we generated $829 million in free cash flow—our strongest quarter since 2023—as higher earnings drove improved cash from operations and capex moderated to $571 million.
Speaker #3: Consistent with our capital allocation framework, we remain committed to returning at least 40 percent of net earnings to shareholders on an annual basis. Year to date, we've returned over $730 million to shareholders and deployed approximately $1.2 billion in capex.
Jack Sullivan: We also returned $479 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, an increase of more than $200 million from the Q1 and representing 41% of quarterly net earnings. Consistent with our capital allocation framework, we remain committed to returning at least 40% of net earnings to shareholders on an annual basis. Year to date, we've returned over $730 million to shareholders and deployed approximately $1.2 billion in CapEx, with most of that going toward growth projects. Taken together, more than 75% of the capital we've allocated this year has gone directly to shareholder returns and growth investments. Looking forward, we expect free cash flow to continue to inflect higher as these growth projects come online and CapEx moderates. Turning to our Q3 outlook, we expect higher consolidated earnings.
Jack Sullivan: We also returned $479 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, an increase of more than $200 million from the Q1 and representing 41% of quarterly net earnings. Consistent with our capital allocation framework, we remain committed to returning at least 40% of net earnings to shareholders on an annual basis.
Speaker #3: We also returned $479 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, an increase of more than $200 million from the first quarter, and representing 41% of quarterly net earnings.
Speaker #3: With most of that going toward growth projects. Taken together, more than 75 percent of the capital we've allocated this year has gone directly to shareholder returns and growth investments.
Jack Sullivan: Year to date, we've returned over $730 million to shareholders and deployed approximately $1.2 billion in CapEx, with most of that going toward growth projects. Taken together, more than 75% of the capital we've allocated this year has gone directly to shareholder returns and growth investments. Looking forward, we expect free cash flow to continue to inflect higher as these growth projects come online and CapEx moderates. Turning to our Q3 outlook, we expect higher consolidated earnings.
Speaker #3: Consistent with our capital allocation framework, we remain committed to returning at least 40% of net earnings to shareholders on an annual basis. Year to date, we've returned over $730 million to shareholders and deployed approximately $1.2 billion in capex.
Speaker #3: Looking forward, we expect free cash flow to continue to inflect higher as these growth projects come online and capex moderates. Turning to our third quarter outlook, we expect higher consolidated earnings.
Speaker #3: For the steel mill segment, in contrast to the second quarter, we do not expect any further cash refunds to materially benefit us in the third quarter or beyond.
Speaker #3: With most of that going toward growth projects. Taken together, more than 75% of the capital we've allocated this year has gone directly to shareholder returns and growth investments.
Speaker #3: Even without that benefit, we expect higher third quarter segment earnings from expanding metal margins and stable volumes. The margin improvement reflects higher realized pricing across all product groups.
Speaker #3: Looking forward, we expect free cash flow to continue to inflect higher as these growth projects come online and capex moderates. Turning to our third-quarter outlook, we expect higher consolidated earnings.
Jack Sullivan: For the steel mill segment, in contrast to Q2, we do not expect any further cash refunds to materially benefit us in Q3 or beyond. Even without that benefit, we expect higher Q3 segment earnings from expanding metal margins and stable volumes. The margin improvement reflects higher realized pricing across all product groups. In steel products, we expect increased earnings from higher volumes and higher average realized pricing. In raw materials, we expect lower earnings primarily due to lower margins, resulting from lower expected realized scrap pricing and elevated iron ore costs due to the idling of some pellet capacity in the Middle East. As we look to H2 2026, we are encouraged by strong demand across key end markets, growing contributions from our recent investments, and federal policies that support a healthy domestic steel sector.
Jack Sullivan: For the steel mill segment, in contrast to Q2, we do not expect any further cash refunds to materially benefit us in Q3 or beyond. Even without that benefit, we expect higher Q3 segment earnings from expanding metal margins and stable volumes. The margin improvement reflects higher realized pricing across all product groups. In steel products, we expect increased earnings from higher volumes and higher average realized pricing.
Speaker #3: In steel products, we expect increased earnings from higher volumes and higher average realized pricing. In raw materials, we expect lower earnings primarily due to lower margins resulting from lower expected realized scrap pricing and elevated iron ore costs due to the idling of some pellet capacity in the Middle East.
Speaker #3: For the steel mill segment, in contrast to the second quarter, we do not expect any further cash refunds to materially benefit us in the third quarter or beyond.
Speaker #3: Even without that benefit, we expect higher third-quarter segment earnings from expanding metal margins and stable volumes. The margin improvement reflects higher realized pricing across all product groups.
Speaker #3: As we look to the second half of 2026, we're encouraged by strong demand across key end markets, growing contributions from our recent investments, and federal policies that support a healthy domestic steel sector.
Jack Sullivan: In raw materials, we expect lower earnings primarily due to lower margins, resulting from lower expected realized scrap pricing and elevated iron ore costs due to the idling of some pellet capacity in the Middle East. As we look to H2 2026, we are encouraged by strong demand across key end markets, growing contributions from our recent investments, and federal policies that support a healthy domestic steel sector.
Speaker #3: In steel products, we expect increased earnings from higher volumes and higher average realized pricing. In raw materials, we expect lower earnings primarily due to lower margins resulting from lower expected realized scrap pricing and elevated iron ore costs due to the idling of some pellet capacity in the Middle East.
Speaker #3: With the broadest range of capabilities in the North American steel market, the New Quartz team is well-positioned to create value for our customers and shareholders.
Speaker #3: And with that, we'd like to hear from you, and answer any questions you may have. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #3: As we look to the second half of 2026, we're encouraged by strong demand across key in-markets, growing contributions from our recent investments, and federal policies that support a healthy domestic steel sector.
Jack Sullivan: With the broadest range of capabilities in the North American steel market, the Nucor team is well-positioned to create value for our customers and shareholders. With that, we would like to hear from you and answer any questions you may have. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Jack Sullivan: With the broadest range of capabilities in the North American steel market, the Nucor team is well-positioned to create value for our customers and shareholders. With that, we would like to hear from you and answer any questions you may have. Operator, please open the line for questions.
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Speaker #4: Thank you, Operator, and good morning, Leon Steve and Jack. Very nice to hear from you all, and thank you for today's update. If I could, I'd like to start off with your view on flat-roll benchmark pricing.
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Speaker #4: And in the CSP, it was up another $10 yesterday as per your report. Continuing to extend the gap versus import parity pricing. Just given that the US still is a net importer of steel, to what do you contribute to continued willingness of customers to buy domestic despite the import price advantage?
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Lawson Winder: Thank you, operator. Good morning, Leon, Steve, and Jack. Very nice to hear from you all. Thank you for today's update. If I could, I would like to start off with your view on flat roll benchmark pricing. The CSP was up another $10 yesterday as per your report, continuing to extend the gap versus import parity pricing. Just given that the US still is a net importer of steel, to what do you contribute the continued willingness of customers to buy domestic despite the import price advantage?
Lawson Winder: Thank you, operator. Good morning, Leon, Steve, and Jack. Very nice to hear from you all. Thank you for today's update. If I could, I would like to start off with your view on flat roll benchmark pricing. The CSP was up another $10 yesterday as per your report, continuing to extend the gap versus import parity pricing. Just given that the US still is a net importer of steel, to what do you contribute the continued willingness of customers to buy domestic despite the import price advantage?
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Speaker #4: Thank you, operator, and good morning, Leon Steve and Jack. Very nice to hear from you all, and thank you for today's update. If I could, I'd like to start off with your view on flat-roll benchmark pricing.
Speaker #5: Hey, Lawson, it's Leon. I'll kick us off, and then maybe ask Noah Hanners, who's over our sheet group, to touch on it. Because I think there's a lot to unpack there in your question.
Speaker #4: And in the CSP, it was up another $10 yesterday, as per your report, continuing to extend the gap versus import parity pricing. Just given that the US still is a net importer of steel, to what do you attribute the continued willingness of customers to buy domestic, despite the import price advantage?
Speaker #5: Look, I want to also want to begin with thanking our team for the safest start to any summer in the history of New Quartz.
Speaker #5: And so it's the men and women of this entire company that derive every result we're going to talk about today and how they execute and continue to execute in becoming the world's safest steel company is our most important value.
Leon Topalian: Hey, Lawson, it's Leon. I'll kick us off and then maybe ask Noah Hanners, who's over our sheet group, to touch on it because I think there's a lot to unpack there in your question. Look, I also want to begin with thanking our team for the Safest Summer Ever in the history of Nucor. It's the men and women of this entire company that derive every result we're going to talk about today and how they execute and continue to execute, and becoming the world's safest steel company is our most important value. With all that said, the demand drivers across the spectrum are incredible. As we look specifically to sheet in your question and the relative balance on imports, we saw a tick up Q-over-Q in imports and primarily in beams and some in sheet.
Leon Topalian: Hey, Lawson, it's Leon. I'll kick us off and then maybe ask Noah Hanners, who's over our sheet group, to touch on it because I think there's a lot to unpack there in your question. Look, I also want to begin with thanking our team for the Safest Summer Ever in the history of Nucor. It's the men and women of this entire company that derive every result we're going to talk about today and how they execute and continue to execute, and becoming the world's safest steel company is our most important value.
Speaker #5: Hey Lawson, it's Leon. I'll kick us off, and then maybe ask Noah Hanners, who's over our sheet group, to touch on it, because I think there's a lot to unpack there, and your question. Look, I also want to begin by thanking our team for the safest start to any summer in the history of Nucor.
Speaker #5: With all that said, the demand drivers across the spectrum are incredible. And so as we look specifically to sheeting your question and relative balance on imports, we saw it tick up Q over Q in imports in primarily in beams and some in sheet.
Speaker #5: And so, it’s the men and women of this entire company that drive every result we’re going to talk about today, and how they execute, and continue to execute. And becoming the world’s safest steel company is our most important value.
Leon Topalian: With all that said, the demand drivers across the spectrum are incredible. As we look specifically to sheet in your question and the relative balance on imports, we saw a tick up Q-over-Q in imports and primarily in beams and some in sheet. The reality is, it's not a pricing delta that's driving that. It is a demand picture that we're seeing. The robust demand almost in every product group area that we have is either at or near record backlogs, record order entry rates, and is driving a, again, healthy return for our shareholders.
Speaker #5: But the reality is it's not a pricing delta that's driving that. It is the demand picture that we're seeing. The robust demand almost in every product group area that we have is either at or near record backlogs, record order entry rates, and is driving a, again, healthy return for our shareholders.
Speaker #5: With all that said, the demand drivers across the spectrum are incredible. And so as we look specifically to sheet and your question and relative balance on imports, we saw it tick up quarter over quarter in imports, primarily in beams and some in sheet.
Leon Topalian: The reality is, it's not a pricing delta that's driving that. It is a demand picture that we're seeing. The robust demand almost in every product group area that we have is either at or near record backlogs, record order entry rates, and is driving a, again, healthy return for our shareholders. Again, this isn't where we saw in 2021 or 2022 where you had a really rapid spike of HRC and kind of knew it wasn't sustainable for very long. It is a very different condition today. Again, I think part of that comes in what Noah and his team have done regarding CSP. Noah, why don't you unpack that and then dive a little deeper into his question?
Speaker #5: So again, this isn't where we saw in '21 or '22 where you had a really rapid spike of HRC and kind of knew it wasn't sustainable or for very long.
Speaker #5: But the reality is, it's not a pricing delta that's driving that. It is the demand picture that we're seeing. The robust demand almost in every product group area that we have is either at or near record backlogs, record order entry rates, and is driving a, again, healthy return for our shareholders.
Speaker #5: It is a very different condition today. And again, I think part of that comes in what Noah and his team have done regarding CSP.
Leon Topalian: Again, this isn't where we saw in 2021 or 2022 where you had a really rapid spike of HRC and kind of knew it wasn't sustainable for very long. It is a very different condition today. Again, I think part of that comes in what Noah and his team have done regarding CSP. Noah, why don't you unpack that and then dive a little deeper into his question?
Speaker #5: But Noah, why don't you unpack that and then dive a little deeper into his question?
Speaker #3: Yeah, Lawson, to build on what Leon shared about demand and why we see it so strong now and continuing into '27. First, let's back out and talk about just the broader demand picture for sheet.
Speaker #5: So again, this isn't like what we saw in '21 or '22, where you had a really rapid spike of HRC and kind of knew it wasn't sustainable or wouldn't last for very long.
Speaker #3: Imports, while a little elevated in Q2, remain very low. So if you back up to 2024, we saw sheet imports at $9 million tons.
Noah Hanners: Yeah, Lawson, to build on what Leon shared about demand and why we see it so strong now and continuing into 2027, first, let's back out and talk about just the broader demand picture for sheet. Imports, while a little elevated in Q2, remain very low. If you back up to 2024, we saw sheet imports at 9 million tons. Today, we look forward, we see probably 4.5 million tons this year. 4.5 million tons of additional addressable market for domestic suppliers. You add on to that what we believe is a 2 million tons increase in ADC. 6.5 million tons of addressable market for domestic suppliers, strong market for us to participate in.
Noah Hanners: Yeah, Lawson, to build on what Leon shared about demand and why we see it so strong now and continuing into 2027, first, let's back out and talk about just the broader demand picture for sheet. Imports, while a little elevated in Q2, remain very low. If you back up to 2024, we saw sheet imports at 9 million tons.
Speaker #5: It is a very different condition today. And again, I think part of that comes from what Noah and his team have done regarding CSP. But can one of you unpack that, and then dive a little deeper into his question?
Speaker #3: Today, we look forward, we see probably $4.5 million tons this year. So $4.5 million tons of additional addressable market for domestic suppliers. The add-on to that, what we believe is a couple million tons increase in ADC.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Lawson, to build on what Leon shared about demand and why we see it so strong now and continuing into '27, first let's back out and talk about just the broader demand picture for sheet.
Speaker #3: So $6.5 million tons of addressable market for domestic suppliers strong market for us to participate in. So talking about the significance of some of those demand drivers, Leon mentioned a few in the opening, but border fence, energy, data centers, these things are all consuming millions of tons and they're not projects that are one-off in 2026.
Noah Hanners: Today, we look forward, we see probably 4.5 million tons this year. 4.5 million tons of additional addressable market for domestic suppliers. You add on to that what we believe is a 2 million tons increase in ADC. 6.5 million tons of addressable market for domestic suppliers, strong market for us to participate in.
Speaker #4: Imports, while a little elevated in Q2, remain very low. So if you back up to 2024, we saw sheet imports at $9 million tons.
Speaker #4: Today, we look forward—we see probably 4.5 million tons this year. So, 4.5 million tons of additional addressable market for domestic suppliers. You add on to that what we believe is a couple million tons increase in ADC.
Speaker #3: We expect multi-year demand out of some of these drivers. The other thing I'll share with you is we're starting to see some reshoring driving new demand for us.
Noah Hanners: Talking about the significance of some of those demand drivers, Leon mentioned a few in the opening, but border fence, energy, data centers, these things are all consuming millions of tons, and they're not projects that are one-offs in 2026. We expect multi-year demand out of some of these drivers. The other thing I'll share with you is we're starting to see some reshoring driving new demand for us, and the reshoring looks different than you may expect. It's things like auto and consumer durables that maybe consumption here in the US isn't going up, but we've seen our customers reshoring their production here to utilize existing capacity. We're supplying more into auto, for example. Our auto shipments are up 6% Q2-over-Q1. The last thing I'd share on the demand side is we're finally seeing service center demand turn the corner.
Noah Hanners: Talking about the significance of some of those demand drivers, Leon mentioned a few in the opening, but border fence, energy, data centers, these things are all consuming millions of tons, and they're not projects that are one-offs in 2026. We expect multi-year demand out of some of these drivers. The other thing I'll share with you is we're starting to see some reshoring driving new demand for us, and the reshoring looks different than you may expect.
Speaker #4: So, $6.5 million tons of addressable market for domestic suppliers—a strong market for us to participate in. So, talking about the significance of some of those demand drivers, Leon mentioned a few in the opening, but border fence, energy, data centers—these things are all consuming millions of tons, and they're not projects that are one-off in 2026.
Speaker #3: And the reshoring looks different than you may expect. It's things like auto and consumer durables that maybe consumption here in the US isn't going up, but we've seen our customers reshoring their production here to utilize existing capacity.
Speaker #3: So we're supplying more into auto, for example. Our auto shipments are up 6% Q2 over Q1. The last thing I'd share on the demand side is we're seeing finally seeing service center demand turn the corner.
Noah Hanners: It's things like auto and consumer durables that maybe consumption here in the US isn't going up, but we've seen our customers reshoring their production here to utilize existing capacity. We're supplying more into auto, for example. Our auto shipments are up 6% Q2-over-Q1. The last thing I'd share on the demand side is we're finally seeing service center demand turn the corner.
Speaker #4: We expect multi-year demand out of some of these drivers. The other thing I'll share with you is we're starting to see some reshoring driving new demand for us.
Speaker #3: Service center shipments were up 10% in June, year over year, and we expect that trend to continue with really moderate to low inventories throughout the supply chain.
Speaker #4: And the reshoring looks different than you may expect. It's things like auto and consumer durables that maybe consumption here in the US isn't going up, but we've seen our customers reshoring their production here to utilize existing capacity.
Speaker #3: So all that together, we think looks like a very strong demand picture for us in '26 going into '27. But I want to take a minute and talk to you about CSP for a second, because that's the other thing that feels so unique about this market.
Noah Hanners: Service center shipments were up 10% in June year over year, and we expect that trend to continue with really moderate to low inventories throughout the supply chain. All that together we think looks like a very strong demand picture for us in 2026 going into 2027. I want to take a minute and talk to you about CSP for a second, because that's the other thing that feels so unique about this market. It's not just demand, but it's how pricing has moved over the last six months to a year. We believe our discipline and our approach around CSP is markedly changing volatility in this market. We've seen these extreme swings in sheet for decades, and we're providing our customers with this transparent hot roll pricing every week.
Noah Hanners: Service center shipments were up 10% in June year-over-year, and we expect that trend to continue with really moderate to low inventories throughout the supply chain. All that together we think looks like a very strong demand picture for us in 2026 going into 2027. I want to take a minute and talk to you about CSP for a second, because that's the other thing that feels so unique about this market.
Speaker #4: So we're supplying more into auto, for example. Our auto shipments are up 6% in Q2 over Q1. The last thing I'd share on the demand side is we're finally seeing service center demand turn the corner.
Speaker #3: It's not just demand, but it's how pricing has moved over the last six months to a year. And we believe our discipline and our approach around CSP is markedly changing volatility in this market.
Speaker #4: Service center shipments were up 10% in June, year over year, and we expect that trend to continue with really moderate to low inventories throughout the supply chain.
Speaker #4: So all that together, we think, looks like a very strong demand picture for us in '26 going into '27. But I want to take a minute and talk to you about CSP for a second, because that's the other thing that feels so unique about this market.
Speaker #3: So these extreme we've seen these extreme swings in sheet for decades, and we're providing our customers with this transparent hot-roll pricing every week. And what we're seeing out of them is we do not see the speculation we typically would have seen at this point in the cycle before.
Noah Hanners: It's not just demand, but it's how pricing has moved over the last six months to a year. We believe our discipline and our approach around CSP is markedly changing volatility in this market. We've seen these extreme swings in sheet for decades, and we're providing our customers with this transparent hot roll pricing every week.
Speaker #3: We're seeing buying that is reflective of supply and demand, not speculation. So and we also think this is contributed another contributing factors to imports remaining low because customers are able to buy what they want when they need it.
Speaker #4: It's not just demand, but it's how pricing has moved over the last six months to a year. We believe our discipline and our approach around CSP is markedly changing volatility in this market.
Noah Hanners: What we're seeing out of them is we do not see the speculation we typically would have seen at this point in the cycle before. We're seeing buying that is reflective of supply and demand, not speculation. We also think this is another contributing factor to imports remaining low because customers are able to buy what they want when they need it. We see a really strong demand picture. We are confident in our approach with CSP, and we have the best steelmaking team in the world hitting a really high level right now. We feel good about 2026 going into 2027.
Noah Hanners: What we're seeing out of them is we do not see the speculation we typically would have seen at this point in the cycle before. We're seeing buying that is reflective of supply and demand, not speculation. We also think this is another contributing factor to imports remaining low because customers are able to buy what they want when they need it. We see a really strong demand picture. We are confident in our approach with CSP, and we have the best steelmaking team in the world hitting a really high level right now. We feel good about 2026 going into 2027.
Speaker #3: So we see a really strong demand picture. We are confident in our approach with CSP. And we have the best steelmaking team in the world hitting it a really high level right now.
Speaker #4: So, we've seen these extreme swings in sheet for decades, and we're providing our customers with this transparent hot roll pricing every week.
Speaker #3: So we feel good about '26 going into 2027.
Speaker #4: And what we're seeing out of them is, we do not see the speculation we typically would have seen at this point in the cycle before.
Speaker #4: We're seeing buying that is reflective of supply and demand, not speculation. So and we also think this is contributed another contributing factors to imports remaining low because customers are able to buy what they want when they need it.
Speaker #4: I really appreciate that detail, guys. That's really, really helpful. If I could, just a follow-up. Thank you very much for providing the shipment tonnages for Brandenburg.
Speaker #4: It suggests the capacity utilization around 75%. I mean, would you push back on us putting 75% capacity utilization in our models for that asset going forward?
Speaker #4: So we see a really strong demand picture. We are confident in our approach with CSP and we have the best steelmaking team in the world hitting a really high level right now.
Lawson Winder: I really appreciate that detail, guys. That's really, really helpful. If I could, just a follow-up. Thank you very much for providing the shipment tonnages for Brandenburg. It suggests the capacity utilization around 75%. Would you push back on us putting 75% capacity utilization in our models for that asset going forward?
Lawson Winder: I really appreciate that detail, guys. That's really, really helpful. If I could, just a follow-up. Thank you very much for providing the shipment tonnages for Brandenburg. It suggests the capacity utilization around 75%. Would you push back on us putting 75% capacity utilization in our models for that asset going forward?
Speaker #5: Yeah, Lawson, this is Brad. I'll tackle that one. As you mentioned, the team had an awesome quarter. Brandenburg producing record volumes and record earnings.
Speaker #4: So we feel good about ’26 going into 2027.
Speaker #2: I really appreciate that detail, guys. That's really, really helpful. If I could, just a follow-up. Thank you very much for providing the shipment tonnages for Brandenburg.
Speaker #5: I'd expect that number to continue to creep up, right? The investments we've made over the last 18 months in product development is really paying dividends.
Speaker #2: It suggests the capacity utilization is around 75%. I mean, would you push back on us putting 75% capacity utilization in our models for that asset going forward?
Brad Ford: Yeah, Lawson, this is Brad. I'll tackle that one. As you mentioned, the team had an awesome quarter. Brandenburg producing record volumes and record earnings.
Brad Ford: Yeah, Lawson, this is Brad. I'll tackle that one. As you mentioned, the team had an awesome quarter. Brandenburg producing record volumes and record earnings. I'd expect that number to continue to creep up, right? The investments we've made over the last 18 months in product development is really paying dividends. Nearly a third of the shipments out of Brandenburg in Q2 were grades and sizes that were previously unavailable from the Nucor plate group prior to Brandenburg.
Speaker #5: There's nearly a third of the shipments out of Brandenburg in Q2 where grades and sizes that were previously unavailable from the new core plate group prior to Brandenburg.
Brad Ford: I'd expect that number to continue to creep up, right? The investments we've made over the last 18 months in product development is really paying dividends. Nearly a third of the shipments out of Brandenburg in Q2 were grades and sizes that were previously unavailable from the Nucor plate group prior to Brandenburg. Things like API line pipe, where we're fully qualified, we're producing that and shipping now. We expect that could be as much as a quarter million tons in 2027. Armor grades for our nation's military, we continue to qualify and expect to be a larger participant in the future. ABS grades for shipbuilding, wide and long plates for bridge applications, and on down the list. It opens up doors for companion tons for our plate group. Obviously, that was reflected in our record shipments, backlogs, and market share in Q2.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Lawson, this is Brad. I'll tackle that one. As you mentioned, the team had an awesome quarter—Brandenburg producing record volumes and record earnings.
Speaker #5: Things like API line pipe where we're fully qualified, we're producing that and shipping now. We expect that to be as much as a quarter million tons in 2027.
Speaker #5: I'd expect that number to continue to creep up, right? The investments we've made over the last 18 months in product development is really paying dividends.
Speaker #5: Armor grades for our nation's military, we continue to qualify and expect to be a larger participant in the future. ABS grades for shipbuilding, wide and long plates for bridge applications, and on down the list.
Brad Ford: Things like API line pipe, where we're fully qualified, we're producing that and shipping now. We expect that could be as much as a quarter million tons in 2027. Armor grades for our nation's military, we continue to qualify and expect to be a larger participant in the future. ABS grades for shipbuilding, wide and long plates for bridge applications, and on down the list. It opens up doors for companion tons for our plate group. Obviously, that was reflected in our record shipments, backlogs, and market share in Q2. I'd expect additional upside, not just out of Brandenburg, but out of the plate group into the future.
Speaker #5: Nearly a third of the shipments out of Brandenburg in Q2 were grades and sizes that were previously unavailable from the Nucor Plate Group prior to Brandenburg.
Speaker #5: In addition, it opens up doors for companion tons for our plate group. Obviously, that was reflected in our record shipments. Backlogs and market share in Q2.
Speaker #5: Things like API line pipe, where we're fully qualified, we're producing and shipping now. We expect that to be as much as 250,000 tons in 2027.
Speaker #5: So I'd expect additional upside, not just out of Brandenburg, but out of the plate group into the future.
Speaker #5: Armor grades for our nation's military, we continue to qualify and expect to be a larger participant in the future. ABS grades for shipbuilding, wide and long plates for bridge applications, and on down the list.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners of Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is now open.
Brad Ford: I'd expect additional upside, not just out of Brandenburg, but out of the plate group into the future.
Speaker #5: In addition, it opens up doors for companion tons for our plate group. Obviously, that was reflected in our record shipments, backlogs, and market share in Q2.
Speaker #6: Yeah, hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to try to drill down a little bit more on some of the project progress, if we could.
Lawson Winder: Thank you.
Lawson Winder: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners of Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners of Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is now open.
Speaker #6: So definitely seems like coalescing on ramp-up of some of these projects that you've been talking about for a while. Can you help us put a finer point on the how to quantify the benefit of some of these towers and structures and galve lines ramping up and the Q3 benefits?
Speaker #5: So I'd expect additional upside, not just out of Brandenburg, but out of the plate group into the future.
Timna Tanners: Yeah. Hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to try to drill down a little bit more on some of the project progress, if we could. Definitely seems like coalescing on ramp-up of some of these projects that you've been talking about for a while. Can you help us put a finer point on how to quantify the benefit of some of these towers and structures and gal lines ramping up and the Q3 benefits? Could that help Q4, and could Q4, with all this demand, see an offset to typical seasonality?
Timna Tanners: Yeah. Hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to try to drill down a little bit more on some of the project progress, if we could. Definitely seems like coalescing on ramp-up of some of these projects that you've been talking about for a while. Can you help us put a finer point on how to quantify the benefit of some of these towers and structures and gal lines ramping up and the Q3 benefits? Could that help Q4, and could Q4, with all this demand, see an offset to typical seasonality?
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners of Wells Fargo. Timna, your line is now open.
Speaker #6: Could that help Q4? And could Q4, with all this demand, see an offset to typical seasonality?
Speaker #3: Yeah, hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to try to drill down a little bit more on some of the project progress, if we could.
Speaker #5: Well, Timna, I'll kick it off and maybe let Jack or Steve jump in or any of the product group folks. But look, if we go back to Lexington, for example, the Lexington micromill, even a positive, already contributing.
Speaker #3: So definitely seems like coalescing on ramp-up of some of these projects that you've been talking about for a while. Can you help us put a finer point on the how to quantify the benefit of some of these towers and structures and galve lines ramping up and the Q3 benefits?
Speaker #5: So again, they're launched and on their own and again, contributing cash to the operations. Our Kingman, Arizona, facility is doing the same thing. Brandenburg is you now heard and Brad just mentioned.
Leon Topalian: Well, look, Timna, I'll kick it off and maybe let Jack or Steve jump in, or any of the product group folks. Look, if we go back to Lexington, for example, the Lexington micromill, even a positive, already contributing. Again, they're launched and on their own and, again, contributing cash to the operations. Our Kingman, Arizona facility is doing the same thing. Brandenburg, as you now heard and Brad just mentioned, is also profitable. They're ramping up very quickly. The towers and structures facilities, yeah, you're going to see additions come in into the back half of the year positively, to the balance sheet and in our cash flow.
Leon Topalian: Well, look, Timna, I'll kick it off and maybe let Jack or Steve jump in, or any of the product group folks. Look, if we go back to Lexington, for example, the Lexington micromill, even a positive, already contributing. Again, they're launched and on their own and, again, contributing cash to the operations. Our Kingman, Arizona facility is doing the same thing.
Speaker #3: Could that help Q4? And could Q4, with all this demand, see an offset to typical seasonality?
Speaker #4: Well, what came out—I'll kick it off and maybe let Jack or Steve jump in, or any of the product group folks. But look, if we go back to Lexington, for example, the Lexington micromill—even a positive—already contributing.
Speaker #5: Is also profitable. And so they're ramping up very, very quickly. The towers and structures facilities, yeah, you're going to see additions come in into the back half of the year, positively.
Leon Topalian: Brandenburg, as you now heard and Brad just mentioned, is also profitable. They're ramping up very quickly. The towers and structures facilities, yeah, you're going to see additions come in into the back half of the year positively, to the balance sheet and in our cash flow.
Speaker #5: To the balance sheet and in our cash flow, and really as we think about Berkeley's galve line, which is going to come on later, Q3, yeah, it's probably end of the year, early Q1, because again, demand drivers are so strong there.
Speaker #4: So again, they're launched and on their own and again, contributing cash to the operations. Our Kingman Arizona facility is doing the same thing. Brandenburg as you now heard and Brad just mentioned, is also profitable.
Speaker #5: That before we see that, cash positive. But that's going to come very, very quickly. Again, it's a line that they know they're second galvanizing line, a product we know customer base we know well.
Speaker #4: And so they're ramping up very, very quickly. The towers and structures facilities, yes, you're going to see additions come in into the back half of the year, positively.
Leon Topalian: Really, as we think about Berkeley's gal line, which is going to come on later Q3, it's probably end of the year, early Q1, because again, demand drivers are so strong there, that before we see that, cash positive. That's going to come very quickly. Again, it's a line that they know. It's their second galvanizing line. A product we know, customer base we know well. This isn't going to be a slow ramp-up. We should be able to ramp up that facility very quickly. Same in Crawfordsville. The things that will carry into 2027 before we see some likely positive contribution will be the third towers and structures greenfield facility in Utah. That'll come on in Q1 of next year. Again, it'll take a little bit of time to ramp up.
Leon Topalian: Really, as we think about Berkeley's gal line, which is going to come on later Q3, it's probably end of the year, early Q1, because again, demand drivers are so strong there, that before we see that, cash positive. That's going to come very quickly. Again, it's a line that they know. It's their second galvanizing line. A product we know, customer base we know well. This isn't going to be a slow ramp-up.
Speaker #5: So this isn't going to be a slow ramp-up. We should be able to ramp up that facility very quickly. Same in Crawfordsville. The things that will carry into '27 before we see some likely positive contribution will be the third towers and structures, greenfield facility in Utah.
Speaker #4: To the balance sheet and in our cash flow, and really as we think about Berkeley's Galve line, which is going to come on later, Q3.
Speaker #4: Yeah, it's probably end of the year, early Q1, because again, demand drivers are so strong there. That before we see that, cash positive. But that's going to come very, very quickly.
Speaker #5: That'll come on in Q1 of next year. But again, it'll take a little bit of time to ramp up. But I would expect by the end of the year, that is contributing very nicely.
Leon Topalian: We should be able to ramp up that facility very quickly. Same in Crawfordsville. The things that will carry into 2027 before we see some likely positive contribution will be the third towers and structures greenfield facility in Utah. That'll come on in Q1 of next year. Again, it'll take a little bit of time to ramp up.
Speaker #4: Again, it's a line that they know it's their second galvanizing line, a product we know customer base we know well. So this isn't going to be a slow ramp-up.
Speaker #5: And if we think about the towers and structures, group as a whole, as you know, it was an area we looked really hard in trying to do that in M&A.
Speaker #4: We should be able to ramp up that facility very quickly. Same in Crawfordsville. The things that will carry into '27 before we see some likely positive contribution will be the third towers and structures, Greenfield facility in Utah.
Speaker #5: Didn't work out. So we built bought a small facility in Summit facility in Pennsylvania. And now we're building out three, two are operational, the third, again, we'll start up next year.
Leon Topalian: I would expect by the end of the year, that is contributing very nicely. If we think about the towers and structures group as a whole, as you know, it was an area we looked really hard in trying to do that in M&A. Didn't work out, so we bought a small facility in Summit, facility in Pennsylvania, and now we're building out three. Two are operational. The third, again, will start up next year. We've mentioned, probably several calls ago, that we were going to generate $150 million of EBITDA through that group. What I would tell you with the order book, the backlog, the relationships with the utilities that is being built by that team, man, I hope that's a really low number. I think there's upside potential to that number. Obviously, we got to get there.
Leon Topalian: I would expect by the end of the year, that is contributing very nicely. If we think about the towers and structures group as a whole, as you know, it was an area we looked really hard in trying to do that in M&A. Didn't work out, so we bought a small facility in Summit, facility in Pennsylvania, and now we're building out three. Two are operational. The third, again, will start up next year.
Speaker #4: That'll come on in Q1 of next year. But again, it'll take a little bit of time to ramp up. But I would expect by the end of the year, that is contributing very nicely.
Speaker #5: We'd mentioned probably several calls ago that we were going to generate 150 million dollars of EBITDA through the group. And so what I would tell you with the order book, the backlog, the relationships with the utilities that is being built by that team, man, I hope that's a really low number.
Speaker #4: And if we think about the towers and structures group as a whole, as you know, it was an area we looked at really hard in trying to do that in M&A.
Leon Topalian: We've mentioned, probably several calls ago, that we were going to generate $150 million of EBITDA through that group. What I would tell you with the order book, the backlog, the relationships with the utilities that is being built by that team, man, I hope that's a really low number. I think there's upside potential to that number. Obviously, we got to get there.
Speaker #4: Didn't work out, so we built bought a small facility in Summit facility in Pennsylvania. And now we're building out three, two are operational, the third again, and we'll start up next year.
Speaker #5: I think there's upside potential to that number. And obviously, we got to get there. But I would tell you that to our team is one of the most exciting high-growth megatrends that are going to continue for decades to come because all those utilities are specific engineered geographic and geological engineered.
Speaker #4: We'd mentioned probably several calls ago that we were going to generate 150 million dollars of EBITDA through the through that group. And so what I would tell you with the order book, the backlog, the relationships with the utilities that is being built by that team, man, I hope that's a really low number.
Leon Topalian: I would tell you that, too, our team is one of the most exciting, high-growth mega trends that are going to continue for decades to come because all those utilities are specific engineered, geographic, and geological engineered. Again, we're ramping that up very quickly. You'll see in the coming weeks some things that'll come to fruition that we can be a little more detailed in that backlog that's coming. Look, this team is firing on all cylinders. Again, this all culminates, too, with the West Virginia facility that will start up later this year. I would tell you 2027 will be that ramp-up year.
Leon Topalian: I would tell you that, too, our team is one of the most exciting, high-growth mega trends that are going to continue for decades to come because all those utilities are specific engineered, geographic, and geological engineered. Again, we're ramping that up very quickly. You'll see in the coming weeks some things that'll come to fruition that we can be a little more detailed in that backlog that's coming. Look, this team is firing on all cylinders. Again, this all culminates, too, with the West Virginia facility that will start up later this year. I would tell you 2027 will be that ramp-up year.
Speaker #5: And again, we're ramping that up very, very quickly. You'll see in the coming weeks some things that'll come to fruition that we can be able to detail in that backlog that's coming.
Speaker #4: I think there's upside potential to that number, and obviously, we've got to get there. But I would tell you that, to our team, this is one of the most exciting high-growth megatrends that are going to continue for decades to come, because all those utilities are specifically engineered—geographically and geologically engineered.
Speaker #5: But look, this team is firing on all cylinders. So again, this all culminates too with West Virginia facility that will start up later this year.
Speaker #5: I would tell you '27 will be that ramp-up year. I'm not sure they're going to contribute in '27, but certainly as we get into '28, they're going to find their footing and that will not only contribute then, but for the next two, three, four decades, continue to ramp up new cores overall, earnings profile, well beyond the 6.7 billion dollars that we rolled out in 2022 from a through-cycle standpoint.
Speaker #4: And again, we're ramping that up very, very quickly. You'll see in the coming weeks some things that'll come to fruition that we can be a little more detailed in that backlog that's coming.
Speaker #4: But look, this team is firing on all cylinders. So again, this all culminates too with West Virginia facility that will start up later this year.
Leon Topalian: I'm not sure they're going to contribute in 2027, but certainly as we get into 2028, they're going to find their footing, and that will not only contribute then, but for the next two, three, four decades, continue to ramp up Nucor's overall earnings profile well beyond the $6.7 billion that we rolled out in 2022 from a through cycle standpoint. Finally, I would just tell you the drivers that I've seen as I celebrate my 30 years in Nucor, I would tell you, create a profile and a demand picture unlike I've ever seen in my career. Again, in almost every area across the spectrum, not only is the market demand drivers, but Nucor's capability set is the broadest and most diverse it's ever been. There are a bunch of things we don't talk about a lot in these calls.
Leon Topalian: I'm not sure they're going to contribute in 2027, but certainly as we get into 2028, they're going to find their footing, and that will not only contribute then, but for the next two, three, four decades, continue to ramp up Nucor's overall earnings profile well beyond the $6.7 billion that we rolled out in 2022 from a through cycle standpoint.
Speaker #5: And finally, I would just tell you the drivers that I've seen as I celebrate my 30 years in Nucor, I would tell you create a profile and a demand picture unlike I've ever seen in my career.
Speaker #4: I would tell you, '27 will be that ramp-up year. I'm not sure they're going to contribute in '27, but certainly as we get into '28, they're going to find their footing and not only contribute then, but for the next two, three, four decades, continue to ramp up Nucor's overall earnings profile.
Speaker #5: Again, in almost every area across the spectrum, not only is the market demand drivers, but Nucor's capability set is the broadest and most diverse it's ever been.
Leon Topalian: Finally, I would just tell you the drivers that I've seen as I celebrate my 30 years in Nucor, I would tell you, create a profile and a demand picture unlike I've ever seen in my career. Again, in almost every area across the spectrum, not only is the market demand drivers, but Nucor's capability set is the broadest and most diverse it's ever been. There are a bunch of things we don't talk about a lot in these calls.
Speaker #5: There are a bunch of things we don't talk about a lot in these calls, border walls, grading, UIG gases, Nucor fasteners, our tube group, tower structures, insulated metal panels, Nucor data systems.
Speaker #4: Well beyond the $6.7 billion that we rolled out in 2022 from a through-cycle standpoint. And finally, I would just tell you, the drivers that I've seen as I celebrate my 30 years at Nucor—I would tell you, they create a profile and a demand picture unlike I've ever seen in my career.
Speaker #5: They are all contributing at a really high level and executing it in a really high level. And so I couldn't be more optimistic and the back half of this year.
Speaker #4: Again, in almost every area across the spectrum, not only are the market demand drivers strong, but Nucor's capability set is the broadest and most diverse it's ever been.
Leon Topalian: Border walls, grating, UIG Gases, Nucor Fastener, our tube group, tower structures, insulated metal panels, Nucor Data Systems. They are all contributing at a really high level and executing it at a really high level. I couldn't be more optimistic in the back half of this year. As we head into 2027, I think 2027 could be a very special year, not just for Nucor, but this industry.
Leon Topalian: Border walls, grating, UIG Gases, Nucor Fastener, our tube group, tower structures, insulated metal panels, Nucor Data Systems. They are all contributing at a really high level and executing it at a really high level. I couldn't be more optimistic in the back half of this year. As we head into 2027, I think 2027 could be a very special year, not just for Nucor, but this industry.
Speaker #5: But as we head into '27, I think '27 could be a very special year, not just for Nucor, but this industry.
Speaker #4: There are a bunch of things we don't talk about a lot in these calls, border walls, grading, UIG gases, NUCOR fasteners, our two group, tower structures, insulated metal systems.
Speaker #6: Okay, thanks. If I could congrats on your 30 years as well. But if I could follow up on the 2027 outlook and you've been intimating the capex is rolling off, of course, and a lot of interest in kind of what Nucor's next plans are for cash use.
Speaker #4: They are all contributing at a really high level and executing at a really high level, and so I couldn't be more optimistic in the back half of this year.
Timna Tanners: Okay, thanks. If I could, congrats on your 30 years as well. If I could follow up on the 2027 outlook, and you've been intimating the CapEx is rolling off, of course, and a lot of interest in what Nucor's next plans are for cash use. Could you just give us any more color on how you're seeing the landscape with build versus buy in the downstream side, and if that's still your focus for growth? Thanks again.
Timna Tanners: Okay, thanks. If I could, congrats on your 30 years as well. If I could follow up on the 2027 outlook, and you've been intimating the CapEx is rolling off, of course, and a lot of interest in what Nucor's next plans are for cash use. Could you just give us any more color on how you're seeing the landscape with build versus buy in the downstream side, and if that's still your focus for growth? Thanks again.
Speaker #6: So could you just give us any more color on how you're seeing the landscape with build versus buy and the downstream side and if that's still your focus for growth?
Speaker #4: But as we head into '27, I think '27 could be a very special year, not just for NUCOR, but this industry.
Speaker #6: Thanks again.
Speaker #5: Yeah, absolutely. Timna, so look, seven years, almost seven years ago, and I became CEO, our mission saving was really simple. To grow the core, expand beyond, and live our culture.
Speaker #3: Okay, thanks. If I could congrats on your 30 years as well, but if I could follow up on the 2027 outlook and you've been intimating the capex is rolling off, of course, and a lot of interest in kind of what NUCOR's next plans are for cash use.
Speaker #5: Culture obviously is how we care for the 33,000 men and women of this incredible family of ours. The core is just that, the steelmaking, the Kingman, the galvanizing lines, the pre-paint, the Lexington micromills, Brandenburg, West Virginia.
Leon Topalian: Look, almost 7 years ago when I became CEO, our mission statement was really simple: to grow the core, expand beyond, and live our culture. Culture obviously is how we care for the 33,000 men and women of this incredible family of ours. The core is just that, the steel making, the Kingman, the galvanizing lines, the pre-paint, the Lexington micro mills, Brandenburg, West Virginia. The expand beyond is the area where we purchased C.H.I. Overhead Doors and now Rytec, and couldn't be more excited about what they're doing and the value proposition that they're going to bring, not just to our shareholders, but to also provide our customers, again, with a very differentiated standpoint. It leads to your question, which is, okay, that's tied up a lot of cash. Where is that cash going to go?
Leon Topalian: Look, almost 7 years ago when I became CEO, our mission statement was really simple: to grow the core, expand beyond, and live our culture. Culture obviously is how we care for the 33,000 men and women of this incredible family of ours. The core is just that, the steel making, the Kingman, the galvanizing lines, the pre-paint, the Lexington micro mills, Brandenburg, West Virginia.
Speaker #3: So could you just give us any more color on how you're seeing the landscape with build versus buy and the downstream side and if that's still your focus for growth?
Speaker #5: But the expand beyond is the area where we purchase CHI overhead doors and now RITEC and couldn't be more excited about what they're doing and the value proposition that they're going to bring not just to our shareholders, but to also provide our customers again with a very differentiated standpoint.
Speaker #3: Thanks again.
Speaker #4: Yeah, absolutely. Tim, so, look, almost seven years ago when I became CEO, our mission statement was really simple: to grow the core, expand beyond, and live our culture.
Speaker #4: Culture obviously is how we care for the 33,000 men and women of this incredible family of ours. The core is just that, the steelmaking, the Kingman, the galvanizing lines, the pre-paint, the Lexington micromills, Brandenburg, West Virginia.
Leon Topalian: The expand beyond is the area where we purchased C.H.I. Overhead Doors and now Rytec, and couldn't be more excited about what they're doing and the value proposition that they're going to bring, not just to our shareholders, but to also provide our customers, again, with a very differentiated standpoint. It leads to your question, which is, okay, that's tied up a lot of cash. Where is that cash going to go?
Speaker #5: So it leads to your question, which is, okay, that tied up a lot of cash. Where is that cash going to go? Because we're going to continue to generate a lot of money.
Speaker #5: Well, it's going to go into the expand beyond bucket. And what I would tell you is you can think about a few things. One, it's going to come in and around the megatrend areas.
Speaker #4: But the expand beyond is the area where we purchased CHI Overhead Doors and now RITEC, and we couldn't be more excited about what they're doing and the value proposition that they're going to bring, not just to our shareholders but also to provide our customers, again, with a very differentiated standpoint.
Speaker #5: So as we think about towers and structures, as we think about the downstream areas that we can bring value in, enclosures, energy, energy infrastructure, those types of areas are the things that I would tell you are M&A and BD teams are looking really hard at identifying those companies that obviously can't get into.
Leon Topalian: Because we're going to continue to generate a lot of money. Well, it's going to go into the expand beyond bucket. What I would tell you is, you can think about a few things. One, it's going to come in and around the mega trend areas. As we think about towers and structures, as we think about the downstream areas that we can bring value in, enclosures, energy infrastructure. Those types of areas are the things that I would tell you our M&A and BD teams are looking really hard at identifying those companies that I obviously can't get into. Again, I want to provide a little more color for you so that you can understand where that's going to go.
Leon Topalian: Because we're going to continue to generate a lot of money. Well, it's going to go into the expand beyond bucket. What I would tell you is, you can think about a few things. One, it's going to come in and around the mega trend areas. As we think about towers and structures, as we think about the downstream areas that we can bring value in, enclosures, energy infrastructure.
Speaker #4: So, it leads to your question, which is: Okay, that's a lot of cash. Where is that cash going to go? Because we're going to continue to generate a lot of money.
Speaker #5: But again, I want to provide a little more color for you so that you can understand where that's going to go. The one caveat that I think is really well, maybe two that's really important to note is Nucor's vision back then and now wasn't a pivot because our models broke.
Speaker #4: Well, it's going to go into the expand beyond bucket. And what I would tell you is you can think about a few things. One, it's going to come in and around the mega trend areas.
Leon Topalian: Those types of areas are the things that I would tell you our M&A and BD teams are looking really hard at identifying those companies that I obviously can't get into. Again, I want to provide a little more color for you so that you can understand where that's going to go.
Speaker #4: So as we think about towers and structures, as we think about the downstream areas that we can bring value in, enclosures, energy, energy infrastructure, those types of areas are the things that I would tell you are M&A and BD teams are looking really hard at identifying those companies that I obviously can't get into.
Speaker #5: In fact, I would tell you were the safest, cleanest, most profitable steel company in the world. And I would rival that us against anyone.
Leon Topalian: The one caveat that I think is really, well maybe 2, that's really important to note is Nucor's vision back then and now wasn't a pivot because our model is broke. In fact, I would tell you we're the safest, cleanest, most profitable steel company in the world. I would rival us against anyone. We don't have to pivot away from a broken model. It's in fact the best it's ever been, we get to tweak that. We get to reinvest in our operating divisions to make them more efficient. We get to use AI and tools like that, and automation to create safer outcomes and higher return outcomes. The other side is we're going to be incredibly disciplined with our capital because we don't have to pivot. There's no urgency and money burning a hole in our pocket.
Leon Topalian: The one caveat that I think is really, well maybe 2, that's really important to note is Nucor's vision back then and now wasn't a pivot because our model is broke. In fact, I would tell you we're the safest, cleanest, most profitable steel company in the world. I would rival us against anyone. We don't have to pivot away from a broken model.
Speaker #5: So we don't have to pivot away from a broken model. It's in fact the best it's ever been. So we get to tweak that.
Speaker #4: But again, I want to provide a little more color for you so that you can understand where that's going to go. The one caveat that I think is really well, maybe two that's really important to note is NUCOR's vision back then and now wasn't a pivot because our models broke.
Speaker #5: We get to reinvest in our operating divisions to make them more efficient. We get to use AI and tools like that and automation to create safer outcomes and higher return outcomes.
Speaker #5: The other side is we're going to be incredibly disciplined with our capital because we don't have to pivot. There's no urgency in money burning a hole in our pocket.
Leon Topalian: It's in fact the best it's ever been, we get to tweak that. We get to reinvest in our operating divisions to make them more efficient. We get to use AI and tools like that, and automation to create safer outcomes and higher return outcomes. The other side is we're going to be incredibly disciplined with our capital because we don't have to pivot. There's no urgency and money burning a hole in our pocket.
Speaker #4: In fact, I would tell you were the safest, cleanest, most profitable steel company in the world. And I would rival that us against anyone.
Speaker #5: So you're going to see Nucor be incredibly continue to be incredibly disciplined about the M&A growth and how we approach that. If it's not a creative, if we can't find pathways to being the market leader, and do it way better than our cost of capital, if not double our cost of capital, we're just not going to do it.
Speaker #4: So we don't have to pivot away from a broken model. It's in fact the best it's ever been. So we get to tweak that.
Speaker #4: We get to reinvest in our operating divisions to make them more efficient. We get to use AI and tools like that, and automation, to create safer outcomes and higher-return outcomes.
Leon Topalian: You're going to see Nucor continue to be incredibly disciplined about the M&A growth and how we approach that. If it's not accretive, if we can't find pathways to being the market leader and do it way better than our cost to capital, if not double our cost to capital, we're just not going to do it. If we don't, then you're going to see a lot of money coming back in the form of dividends and share repurchases back to our shareholders. As we always have, and as Jack spoke to earlier, we're going to commit to 40% of our net earnings. I would tell you in the next several years, you can expect there's some incredible growth opportunities for Nucor that we're going to move into in the expand beyond bucket.
Leon Topalian: You're going to see Nucor continue to be incredibly disciplined about the M&A growth and how we approach that. If it's not accretive, if we can't find pathways to being the market leader and do it way better than our cost to capital, if not double our cost to capital, we're just not going to do it.
Speaker #5: So if we don't, then you're going to see a lot of money coming back in the form of dividends and share repurchases back to our shareholders.
Speaker #4: The other side is we're going to be incredibly disciplined with our capital because we don't have to pivot. There's no urgency and money burning a hole in our pocket.
Speaker #5: And as we always have, and as Jack spoke to earlier, we're going to commit to 40% of our net earnings. But I would tell you in the next several years, you can expect there's some incredible growth opportunities for Nucor that we're going to move into in the expand beyond bucket.
Speaker #4: So you're going to see NUCOR be incredibly continue to be incredibly disciplined about the M&A growth and how we approach that. If it's not a creative, if we can't find pathways to being the market leader, and do it way better than our cost to capital, if not double our cost to capital, we're just not going to do it.
Leon Topalian: If we don't, then you're going to see a lot of money coming back in the form of dividends and share repurchases back to our shareholders. As we always have, and as Jack spoke to earlier, we're going to commit to 40% of our net earnings. I would tell you in the next several years, you can expect there's some incredible growth opportunities for Nucor that we're going to move into in the expand beyond bucket.
Speaker #6: Okay, thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Timna.
Speaker #6: Your next question comes from the line of Bill Peterson of JP Morgan. Bill, your line is now open.
Speaker #4: So, if we don't, then you're going to see a lot of money coming back in the form of dividends and share repurchases back to our shareholders.
Speaker #7: Yeah, hi, good morning everyone. Thanks for all the color and nice job in a quarterly execution. Based on your comments on expectations to be at the higher end of the range, 5 to 10 percent for the mills, I guess taking into account backlog, presumably longer lead times for inventory, the channel and so forth, how should we think about seasonality in the back half of the year?
Speaker #4: And as we always have, and as Jack spoke to earlier, we're going to commit to 40% of our net earnings. But I would tell you in the next several years, you can expect there's some incredible growth opportunities for NUCOR that we're going to move into in the expand beyond bucket.
Timna Tanners: Okay. Thank you.
Timna Tanners: Okay. Thank you.
Leon Topalian: Thanks, Timna.
Leon Topalian: Thanks, Timna.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bill Peterson of JPMorgan. Bill, your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bill Peterson of JPMorgan. Bill, your line is now open.
William Peterson: Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for all the color and nice job on the quarterly execution. Based on your comments on expectations to be at the higher end of the range, 10% for the mills, I guess taking into account backlog, presumably longer lead times, low inventory, the channel and so forth, how should we think about seasonality in the back half of the year, including the Q4, which I believe you might have less shipping days. If you could help us understand just the profiles in the back half, that would be helpful.
Bill Peterson: Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for all the color and nice job on the quarterly execution. Based on your comments on expectations to be at the higher end of the range, 10% for the mills, I guess taking into account backlog, presumably longer lead times, low inventory, the channel and so forth, how should we think about seasonality in the back half of the year, including the Q4, which I believe you might have less shipping days. If you could help us understand just the profiles in the back half, that would be helpful.
Speaker #3: Okay, thank you.
Speaker #7: Including the fourth quarter, which I believe you might have less shipping days, but help us understand just the profile in the back half that would be helpful.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Tim.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Bill Peterson of JP Morgan. Bill, your line is now open.
Speaker #5: Okay, hey Bill, this is Steve. I'll take this one. Yeah, we'll be closer to that high end of the previously guided range of 5 to 10 percent.
Speaker #5: Yeah, hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for all the color and nice job, and of course, the execution. Based on your comments on expectations to be at the higher end of the range—5 to 10 percent for the mills—I guess taking into account backlog, presumably longer lead times, low inventory in the channel, and so forth, how should we think about seasonality in the back half of the year?
Speaker #5: And you know our business really well. There is seasonality. So you should expect a little bit of that in the fourth quarter, but as Leon and Brad know have all already addressed the demand drivers are extremely robust right now.
Stephen D. Laxton: Hey, Bill, this is Steve. I'll take this one. Yeah, we'll be closer to that high end of the previously guided range of 5% to 10%. You know our business really well. There is seasonality. You should expect a little bit of that in Q4. As Leon, Brad, Noah have all already addressed, the demand drivers are extremely robust right now. They're multi-product. It's across all the spectrum that we have. We're pretty bullish on the H2 of the year. That doesn't mean there won't be seasonality. There always is. It's a relative move down, I guess I would say, because there's still so much strength in the marketplace. Bill, to your question about-
Steve Laxton: Hey, Bill, this is Steve. I'll take this one. Yeah, we'll be closer to that high end of the previously guided range of 5% to 10%. You know our business really well. There is seasonality. You should expect a little bit of that in Q4. As Leon, Brad, Noah have all already addressed, the demand drivers are extremely robust right now. They're multi-product. It's across all the spectrum that we have. We're pretty bullish on the H2 of the year. That doesn't mean there won't be seasonality. There always is. It's a relative move down, I guess I would say, because there's still so much strength in the marketplace. Bill, to your question about-
Speaker #5: Including the fourth quarter, which I believe you might have less shipping days, but help us understand just the profile in the back half that would be helpful.
Speaker #5: They're multi-product. It's across all the spectrum that we have. So we're pretty bullish on the back half of the year. That doesn't mean there won't be seasonality.
Speaker #4: Okay. Hey Bill, this is Steve. I'll take this one. Yeah, we'll be closer to that high end of the previously guided range of 5% to 10%.
Speaker #5: There always is, but it's a relative move down, I guess I would say, because there's still so much strength in the marketplace.
Speaker #4: And you know our business really well. There is seasonality, so you should expect a little bit of that in the fourth quarter. But as Leon and Brad have already addressed, the demand drivers are extremely robust right now.
Speaker #2: And Bill, to your question about to your question about the fiscal days, in the fourth quarter, we'll have 91 days in the third and 89 days in the fourth.
Speaker #4: They're multi-product. It's across all the spectrum that we have. So we're pretty bullish on the back half of the year. That doesn't mean there won't be seasonality.
Speaker #7: Okay, great. That's helpful. And then maybe drilling down to the border wall opportunity. Can you give us a sense of the shipping opportunity in the 2028 and any color you can provide on your share expectations?
William Peterson: Okay. Thanks, Steve.
Bill Peterson: Okay. Thanks, Steve.
Stephen D. Laxton: to your question about the fiscal days in Q4, we'll have 91 days in Q3 and 89 days in Q4.
Steve Laxton: to your question about the fiscal days in Q4, we'll have 91 days in Q3 and 89 days in Q4.
Speaker #4: There always is, but it's a relative move down, I guess I would say, because there's still so much strength in the marketplace.
Speaker #2: Hey Bill, this is John Hollets. I appreciate you bringing up that border wall. That is a megatrend that I think needs to get a lot of attention.
William Peterson: Okay, great. That's helpful. Then maybe drilling down to the border wall opportunity. Can you give us a sense of the shipping opportunity into 2028 and any color you can provide on your share expectations?
Bill Peterson: Okay, great. That's helpful. Then maybe drilling down to the border wall opportunity. Can you give us a sense of the shipping opportunity into 2028 and any color you can provide on your share expectations?
Speaker #2: And Bill, to your question about to your question about the fiscal days, in the fourth quarter, we'll have 91 days in the third and 89 days in the fourth.
Speaker #2: I appreciate Noah bringing it up earlier in his commentary. And I think you've got to keep in mind that Nucor is the only company with the raw materials, the sheet, the tube capacity, and the logistics team to keep up with the demand for this border wall.
Speaker #5: Okay, great, that's helpful. And then maybe drilling down to the border wall opportunity—can you give us a sense of the shipping opportunity in 2028, and any color you can provide on your share expectations?
John Hollatz: Hey, Bill, this is John Hollatz. I appreciate you bringing up that border wall. That is a mega trend that I think needs to get a lot of attention. I appreciate Noah bringing it up
John Hollatz: Hey, Bill, this is John Hollatz. I appreciate you bringing up that border wall. That is a mega trend that I think needs to get a lot of attention. I appreciate Noah bringing it up Earlier in his commentary. I think you've got to keep in mind that Nucor is the only company with the raw materials, the sheet, the tube capacity, and the logistics team to keep up with the demand for this border wall.
Speaker #2: We're shipping thousands of tons every week to multiple locations along the border. And that is expected to continue well into 2028. If you look at the volumes that are going through our tube group, it'll show you the increase that you've seen year over year.
Jack Sullivan: Earlier in his commentary. I think you've got to keep in mind that Nucor is the only company with the raw materials, the sheet, the tube capacity, and the logistics team to keep up with the demand for this border wall. We're shipping thousands of tons every week to multiple locations along the border, and that is expected to continue well into 2028. If you look at the volumes that are going through our tube group, it will show you the increase that you've seen year-over-year, and that's on top of an already strong demand for our traditional HSS products, leading to a lot of the improved earnings that we expect in H2 of 2026.
Speaker #2: Hey Bill, this is John Hollats. I appreciate you bringing up that border wall. That is a mega trend that I think needs to get a lot of attention.
Speaker #2: I appreciate Noah bringing it up earlier in his commentary. And I think you've got to keep in mind that Nucor is the only company with the raw materials, the sheet, and the logistics team to keep up with the demand for this border wall.
John Hollatz: We're shipping thousands of tons every week to multiple locations along the border, and that is expected to continue well into 2028. If you look at the volumes that are going through our tube group, it will show you the increase that you've seen year-over-year, and that's on top of an already strong demand for our traditional HSS products, leading to a lot of the improved earnings that we expect in H2 of 2026.
Speaker #2: And that's on top of an already strong demand for our traditional HSS products. And leading to a lot of the improved earnings that we expect in the second half of 2026.
Speaker #2: We're shipping thousands of tons every week to multiple locations along the border, and that is expected to continue well into 2028. If you look at the volumes that are going through our Tube Group, it'll show you the increase that you've seen year over year.
Speaker #7: Okay, thanks for the color.
Speaker #6: Your next question is from the line of Tristan Glesser of BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is now open.
Speaker #8: Yes, hi. Thank you for taking my questions. The first is on the raw materials division that is very strong quarter. While I don't know, it looked like pretty should have been a relatively steady slightly up quarter.
Speaker #2: And that's on top of an already strong demand for our traditional HSS products, leading to a lot of the improved earnings that we expect in the second half of 2026.
William Peterson: Okay. Thanks for the color.
Bill Peterson: Okay. Thanks for the color.
Operator: Your next question is from the line of Tristan Gresser of BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question is from the line of Tristan Gresser of BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is now open.
Speaker #8: So I was wondering if you could provide some visibility on what drove the performance and I mean, the strength of the past year has been pretty noticeable.
Speaker #5: Okay, thanks for the color.
Tristan Gresser: Hi, thank you for taking my questions. The first is on the raw materials division. That is very strong quarter. While, I don't know, it looked like should have been a relatively steady, slightly up quarter. I was wondering if you could provide some visibility on what drove the performance and, I mean, the strength of the past year has been pretty noticeable. If the margin trends we've seen for that division should carry forward. That would be my first question.
Tristan Gresser: Hi, thank you for taking my questions. The first is on the raw materials division. That is very strong quarter. While, I don't know, it looked like should have been a relatively steady, slightly up quarter. I was wondering if you could provide some visibility on what drove the performance and, I mean, the strength of the past year has been pretty noticeable. If the margin trends we've seen for that division should carry forward. That would be my first question.
Speaker #3: Your next question is from the line of Tristan Gresser of BNP Paribas. Tristan, your line is now open.
Speaker #8: So if you can if the margin trends we've seen for that division should carry forward, that would be my first question.
Speaker #6: Yes, hi. Thank you for taking my questions. The first is on the raw materials division, which had a very strong quarter. While I don't know, it looked like it should have been a relatively steady, slightly up quarter.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks, Tristan. This is Albert. I'll take that one. I appreciate you asking the question. Because I'm really proud of our raw materials team and just how that whole team performed.
Speaker #5: During the quarter, and I think the results speak for themselves. That segment includes a handful of businesses and but I'll share some thoughts and maybe at the top of mind on a couple of the bigger pieces.
Speaker #6: So I was wondering if you could provide some visibility on what drove the performance. I mean, the strength over the past year has been pretty noticeable.
Al Baird: Yeah. Thanks, Tristan. This is Al Baird. I'll take that one. I appreciate you asking the question, because I'm really proud of our raw materials team and just how that whole team performed during the quarter, and I think the results speak for themselves. That segment includes a handful of businesses, but I'll share some thoughts and maybe at top of mind on a couple of the bigger pieces. One of them is our recycling yards and the other is our DRI operations. For the recycling yards, it's a simple story of strong volumes with higher margins. We saw strong margins in the quarter, both on the shredded metals as well as on the recovered metals, the non-ferrous metals that we sell as a byproduct. Coupled with just really consistent, strong performance commercially and operationally within those businesses. On the DRI side, also a great quarter.
Allen Behr: Yeah. Thanks, Tristan. This is Al Baird. I'll take that one. I appreciate you asking the question, because I'm really proud of our raw materials team and just how that whole team performed during the quarter, and I think the results speak for themselves. That segment includes a handful of businesses, but I'll share some thoughts and maybe at top of mind on a couple of the bigger pieces. One of them is our recycling yards and the other is our DRI operations.
Speaker #6: So, if you can, if the margin trends we've seen for that division should carry forward, that would be my first question.
Speaker #5: One of them is our recycling yards and the other is our DRI operations. For the recycling yards, it's a simple story of strong volumes with higher margins.
Speaker #5: So we see saw strong margins in the quarter both on the shredded metals as well as on the recovered metals, the non-ferrous metals. That we sell as a byproduct coupled with just really consistent strong performance commercially and operationally within those businesses.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks, Tristan. This is Albert. I'll take that one. I appreciate you asking the question because I'm really proud of our raw materials team and just how that whole team performed.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, and I think the results speak for themselves. That segment includes a handful of businesses and but I'll share some thoughts and maybe a top of mind on a couple of the bigger pieces.
Allen Behr: For the recycling yards, it's a simple story of strong volumes with higher margins. We saw strong margins in the quarter, both on the shredded metals as well as on the recovered metals, the non-ferrous metals that we sell as a byproduct. Coupled with just really consistent, strong performance commercially and operationally within those businesses. On the DRI side, also a great quarter.
Speaker #5: On the DRI side also, a great quarter. We set a quarterly production record as rising pig iron allowed us to lean into DRI as an alternative supply for our mills.
Speaker #2: One of them is our recycling yards and the other is our DRI operations. For the recycling yards, it's a simple story of strong volumes with higher margins.
Speaker #5: And our DRI teams really rose to the occasion and super proud of what they did. What I think is important about that, Tristan, is that it's just another example of how our strategy of building flexibility into our raw materials supply chain is a way to drive value for the organization.
Speaker #2: So we see saw strong margins in the quarter both on the shredded metals as well as on the recovered metals, the non-ferrous metals. That we sell as a byproduct coupled with just really consistent strong performance commercially and operationally within those businesses.
Jack Sullivan: We set a quarterly production record as rising pig iron allowed us to lean into DRI as a alternative supply for our mills. Our DRI teams really rose to the occasion, and super proud of what they did. What I think is important about that, Tristan, is it's just another example of how our strategy of building flexibility into our raw material supply chain is a way to drive value for the organization. We believe there's always a winning play in the market, and we've got the depth and the breadth to be able to find those plays and run them.
Allen Behr: We set a quarterly production record as rising pig iron allowed us to lean into DRI as a alternative supply for our mills. Our DRI teams really rose to the occasion, and super proud of what they did. What I think is important about that, Tristan, is it's just another example of how our strategy of building flexibility into our raw material supply chain is a way to drive value for the organization. We believe there's always a winning play in the market, and we've got the depth and the breadth to be able to find those plays and run them.
Speaker #5: And so we believe there's always a winning play in the market and we've got the depth and the run them.
Speaker #2: On the DRI side also, a great quarter. We set a quarterly production record, as rising pig iron allowed us to lean into DRI as an alternative supply for our mills.
Speaker #7: All right. So that's very clear.
Speaker #2: And our DRI teams really rose to the occasion and super proud of what they did. What I think is important about that, Tristan, is it's just another example of how our strategy of building flexibility into our raw materials supply chain is a way to drive value for the organization.
Speaker #8: My second question is actually quick one, just if you could provide some update on the CapEx guidance and you had some big use of working capital in H1.
Speaker #8: How do you think the H2 should look like? Thank you.
Tristan Gresser: All right. That's very clear. My second question is actually a quick one, just if you could provide some update on the CapEx guidance and you had some big use of working capital in H1. How do you think the H2 should look like? Thank you.
Tristan Gresser: All right. That's very clear. My second question is actually a quick one, just if you could provide some update on the CapEx guidance and you had some big use of working capital in H1. How do you think the H2 should look like? Thank you.
Speaker #2: And so, we believe there is always a winning play in the market, and we've got the depth and the breadth to be able to find those plays and run them.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks, Tristan. It's Jack. I'll take CapEx first. Earlier this year, we guided to 2.5 billion dollars for 2026. Materially down from the prior year.
Speaker #5: All right. That's very clear.
Speaker #6: My second question is actually a quick one. Could you provide some update on the capex guidance? And you had some big use of working capital in H1.
Speaker #2: Halfway into the year, we're right at about 50% of that. And so we remain on target with that 2.5 estimate that we set earlier in the year.
Jack Sullivan: Thanks, Tristan. It's Jack. I'll take CapEx first. Earlier this year, we guided to $2.5 billion for 2026, materially down from the prior year. Halfway into the year, we're right at about 50% of that. We remain on target with that 2.5 estimate that we set earlier in the year. With respect to working capital, yeah, we did see a bit more of a build in Q2, primarily related just to, with the higher backlog, comes some higher inventory at higher valuations. Both inventories and receivables did tick up some. Got to give a lot of credit, though, to the team in terms of how we're managing inventory, how we're managing cash conversion. I think operationally, we're working through a really strong demand environment with shareholder interests in mind there with respect to cash flow.
Jack Sullivan: Thanks, Tristan. It's Jack. I'll take CapEx first. Earlier this year, we guided to $2.5 billion for 2026, materially down from the prior year. Halfway into the year, we're right at about 50% of that. We remain on target with that 2.5 estimate that we set earlier in the year. With respect to working capital, yeah, we did see a bit more of a build in Q2, primarily related just to, with the higher backlog, comes some higher inventory at higher valuations.
Speaker #6: How do you think the H2 should look like? Thank you.
Speaker #2: With respect to working capital, yeah, we did see a bit more of a build in Q2, primarily related just to with the higher backlog comes some higher inventory.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks, Tristan. It's Jack. I'll take capex first. Earlier this year, we guided to $2.5 billion for 2026, materially down from the prior year.
Speaker #2: At higher valuations. And so both inventories and receivables did tick up some. I got to get a lot of credit though to the team in terms of how we're managing inventory, how we're managing cash conversion.
Speaker #2: Halfway into the year, we're right at about 50% of that. And so, we remain on target with that $2.5 estimate that we set earlier in the year.
Speaker #2: With respect to working capital, yeah, we did see a bit more of a build in Q2, primarily related to the fact that with the higher backlog comes some higher inventory.
Speaker #2: So I think operationally, we're working through a really strong demand environment with shareholder interests in mind there with respect to cash flow. Looking into the second half of the year, likely expect some moderation in working capital as we get into the sort of the fall months.
Jack Sullivan: Both inventories and receivables did tick up some. Got to give a lot of credit, though, to the team in terms of how we're managing inventory, how we're managing cash conversion. I think operationally, we're working through a really strong demand environment with shareholder interests in mind there with respect to cash flow. Looking into H2, likely expect some moderation in working capital as we get into the sort of the fall months. Could be some slight source of cash in H2.
Speaker #2: At higher valuations. And so both inventories and receivables did tick up some. I've got to give a lot of credit, though, to the team in terms of how we're managing inventory and how we're managing cash conversion.
Speaker #2: But it could be some slight source of cash in the back half of the year.
Jack Sullivan: Looking into H2, likely expect some moderation in working capital as we get into the sort of the fall months. Could be some slight source of cash in H2.
Speaker #2: So I think operationally, we're working through a really strong demand environment with shareholder interests in mind there with respect to cash flow. Looking into the second half of the year, likely expect some moderation in working capital as we get into the sort of the fall months.
Speaker #7: All right. That's clear. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Your next question comes from the line of Nick Cash of Goldman Sachs & Co. Nick, your line is now open.
Speaker #2: Thank you so much. And thank you, team, for taking the questions. I just had one follow-up here. Just one of the drill-in a little bit on the shipment mix.
Tristan Gresser: All right. That's clear. Thank you.
Tristan Gresser: All right. That's clear. Thank you.
Speaker #2: You mentioned sheet is going to be or sheet continues strength through 2027. The volumes were just a little bit softer. In Q2, quarter over quarter.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Nick Cash of Goldman Sachs & Co. Nick, your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Nick Cash of Goldman Sachs & Co. Nick, your line is now open.
Speaker #2: But it could be some slight source of cash in the back half of the year.
Nick Cash: Thank you so much, and thank you team for taking the questions. I just have one follow-up here. Just wanted to drill in a little bit on the shipment mix. You mentioned your sheet is going to be, or sheet continued strength through 2027. The volumes were just a little bit softer in Q2 quarter over quarter. I mean, the first question was the softness due to, I guess, just some softness in the order book? Or was there an outage or are you starting to see any, I guess, import product coming back in on the flat side? On the contrary, your bar shipments have continued to accelerate despite long product imports ticking back up in Q2. What would you attribute that market share capture to? How should we think about that going forward?
Nick Cash: Thank you so much, and thank you team for taking the questions. I just have one follow-up here. Just wanted to drill in a little bit on the shipment mix. You mentioned your sheet is going to be, or sheet continued strength through 2027. The volumes were just a little bit softer in Q2 quarter over quarter. I mean, the first question was the softness due to, I guess, just some softness in the order book?
Speaker #2: So I mean, the first question was, was the softness due to, I guess, just some softness in the order book or was there an outage or you starting to see any, I guess, import product coming back in on the flat side?
Speaker #5: All right. That's clear. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Nick Cash of Goldman Sachs and Co. Nick, your line is now open.
Speaker #2: And then on the contrary, your bar shipments have continued to accelerate despite long product imports ticking back up into Q. What would you attribute that market share capture to?
Speaker #4: Thank you so much. And thank you, team, for taking the questions. I just have one follow-up here. Just one of the drill in a little bit on the shipment mix.
Speaker #4: You mentioned your sheet is going to be or so you continue strength through 2027. The volumes were just a little bit softer. In 2Q, quarter over quarter.
Nick Cash: Or was there an outage or are you starting to see any, I guess, import product coming back in on the flat side? On the contrary, your bar shipments have continued to accelerate despite long product imports ticking back up in Q2. What would you attribute that market share capture to? How should we think about that going forward?
Speaker #2: And how should we think about that going forward?
Speaker #5: And Nick, this is Noah. I'll start with sheet. You talked about Q2 versus Q1 shipments. We actually, we broke up another production record in Q2.
Speaker #4: So, I mean, the first question was: Was the softness due to, I guess, just some softness in the order book, or was there an outage? Or are you starting to see any, I guess, import product coming back in on the flat side?
Speaker #5: What you saw on the beat in Q1 from a shipment standpoint is we came into the quarter with some inventory. We were able to ship, but we actually converted.
Speaker #4: And then, on the contrary, your bar shipments have continued to accelerate despite long product imports picking back up in Q2. What would you attribute that market share capture to?
Noah Hanners: Hey, Nick, this is Noah. I'll start with sheet. You talked about Q2 versus Q1 shipments. We actually broke another production record in Q2. What you saw on the beat in Q1 from a shipment standpoint is we came into the quarter with some inventory we were able to ship
Noah Hanners: Hey, Nick, this is Noah. I'll start with sheet. You talked about Q2 versus Q1 shipments. We actually broke another production record in Q2. What you saw on the beat in Q1 from a shipment standpoint is we came into the quarter with some inventory we were able to ship We actually converted more efficiently in Q2, and we expect that level of production and shipment to continue.
Speaker #5: Officially in Q2 and we expect that level of production and shipment to continue.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Nick, this is Randy Spicer. Certainly, yeah, the team has performed tremendously in the second quarter and we certainly saw that. Our performance. And driven by a lot of the very same things that have been talked about today, we continue to see growth in infrastructure, investment, and manufacturing reassuring.
Speaker #4: And how should we think about that going forward?
Speaker #2: And Nick, this is Noah. I'll start with sheet. You talked about Q2 versus Q1 shipments. We actually broke another production record in Q2.
Noah Hanners: We actually converted more efficiently in Q2, and we expect that level of production and shipment to continue.
Speaker #2: What you saw on the beat in Q1 from a shipment standpoint is we came into the quarter with some inventory. We're able to ship, but we actually converted more efficiently in Q2 and we expect that level of production and shipment to continue.
Randy Spicer: Yeah, Nick, this is Randy Spicer. Certainly, yeah, the team has performed tremendously in Q2, and we certainly saw that in our performance. Driven by a lot of the very same themes that have been talked about today. We continue to see growth in infrastructure investment and manufacturing reshoring. Again, this continued growth in data center. Also just to echo what we've seen in both sheet, too, from John, we've also been a very active participant in border fence as well. All of those factors, along with our newer assets that are coming online, have truly allowed us to take advantage of this growth in Q2 and are set up well here as we move into H2.
Randy Spicer: Yeah, Nick, this is Randy Spicer. Certainly, yeah, the team has performed tremendously in Q2, and we certainly saw that in our performance. Driven by a lot of the very same themes that have been talked about today. We continue to see growth in infrastructure investment and manufacturing reshoring.
Speaker #2: And then again, this continued growth in data center. And then also just to echo what we've seen in both sheet to be from John, we've also been a very active participant in border fence as well.
Speaker #2: So all of those factors along with our newer assets that are coming online have truly allowed us to take advantage of this growth in the second quarter and set up well here as we move into the second half.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Nick, this is Randy Spicer. Certainly—yeah, the team has performed tremendously in the second quarter, and we certainly saw that in our performance.
Randy Spicer: Again, this continued growth in data center. Also just to echo what we've seen in both sheet, too, from John, we've also been a very active participant in border fence as well. All of those factors, along with our newer assets that are coming online, have truly allowed us to take advantage of this growth in Q2 and are set up well here as we move into H2.
Speaker #4: And driven by a lot of the very same themes that have been talked about today, we continue to see growth in infrastructure investment, the manufacturing reshoring, and then again, this continued growth in data centers.
Speaker #1: That's helpful. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #6: Our next question is from the line of Katya Dancik of BMO Capital Markets. Katya, your line is now open.
Speaker #4: And then also just to echo what we've seen in both sheet to be from John, we've also been a very active participant in border fence as well.
Speaker #4: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe starting on the demand outlook more broadly. So you talked about a couple of tailwinds that could last for the next few years.
Nick Cash: That's helpful. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Nick Cash: That's helpful. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #4: So all of those factors, along with our newer assets that are coming online, have truly allowed us to take advantage of this growth in the second quarter and set up well here as we move into the second half.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Katja Jancic of BMO Capital Markets. Katja, your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Katja Jancic of BMO Capital Markets. Katja, your line is now open.
Speaker #4: What, in your view, would be a reasonable assumption for underlying demand growth over the next two to three years?
Katja Jancic: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe starting on the demand outlook more broadly. You talked about a couple of tailwinds that could last for the next few years. What, in your view, would be a reasonable assumption for underlying demand growth over the next two to three years?
Katja Jancic: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe starting on the demand outlook more broadly. You talked about a couple of tailwinds that could last for the next few years. What, in your view, would be a reasonable assumption for underlying demand growth over the next two to three years?
Speaker #4: That's helpful. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from the line of Katya Dancik of BMO Capital Markets. Katya, your line is now open.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Katya, this is Steve. I'll go ahead and take this one. I think the backdrop for the demand picture is, again, it's broad enough and strong enough in enough channels and it's driven by some fundamental reassuring fundamental capital investment cycles that are probably multi-year in nature.
Speaker #7: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe starting on the demand outlook more broadly. So you talked about a couple of tailwinds that could last for the next few years.
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Stephen D. Laxton: Yeah. Katja, this is Steve. I'll go ahead and take this one. I think the backdrop for the demand picture is, again, it's broad enough and strong enough in enough channels, and it's driven by some fundamental reshoring, fundamental capital investment cycles that are probably multi-year in nature. Things like Leon highlighted earlier with energy investment. That's not necessarily going to slow down over the next few years. This year we would put an estimate somewhere around 2% up on demand overall. That's all products. Nucor's portfolio is positioned a little bit more strongly to some of the stronger areas of the market. That's just a general comment about the market, not Nucor. We see strength at least for the next couple of years in that same band or more. The parts of the market that are weak right now have to do with consumer-oriented activities.
Steve Laxton: Yeah. Katja, this is Steve. I'll go ahead and take this one. I think the backdrop for the demand picture is, again, it's broad enough and strong enough in enough channels, and it's driven by some fundamental reshoring, fundamental capital investment cycles that are probably multi-year in nature. Things like Leon highlighted earlier with energy investment. That's not necessarily going to slow down over the next few years.
Speaker #7: What, in your view, would be a reasonable assumption for underlying demand growth over the next two to three years?
Speaker #5: Things like Leon highlighted earlier with energy investment. That's not necessarily going to slow down over the next few years. So this year, we would put an estimate somewhere around 2% up on demand overall.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Katya, this is Steve. I'll go ahead and take this one. I think the backdrop for the demand picture is, again, it's broad enough and strong enough in enough channels, and it's driven by some fundamental, reassuring, fundamental capital investment cycles that are probably multi-year in nature.
Speaker #5: That's all products. New force portfolio is positioned a little bit more strongly to some of the stronger areas of the market. So that's just a general comment about the market, not new core.
Speaker #5: And we see strength at least for the next couple of years in that same band or more. So the parts of the market that are weak right now have to do with consumer-oriented activities.
Steve Laxton: This year we would put an estimate somewhere around 2% up on demand overall. That's all products. Nucor's portfolio is positioned a little bit more strongly to some of the stronger areas of the market. That's just a general comment about the market, not Nucor. We see strength at least for the next couple of years in that same band or more. The parts of the market that are weak right now have to do with consumer-oriented activities.
Speaker #2: It's things like Leon highlighted earlier with energy investment. That's not necessarily going to slow down over the next few years. So this year, we would put an estimate somewhere around 2% up on demand overall.
Speaker #5: Think HVAC, NOAA's comment about automotive is a fair one. Automotive consumption is down, but the reassuring patterns might mean that steel consumption in automotive could be up for us.
Speaker #2: That's all the products. The new force portfolio is positioned a little bit more strongly in some of the stronger areas of the market. So that's just a general comment about the market, not New Core.
Speaker #5: And so the parts that are weaker and could be more interest rate sensitive, for example, are already down. So if anything, you may skew some of that to potential upside if you saw uptick in consumer behavior.
Stephen D. Laxton: Think HVAC. Noah's comment about automotive is a fair one. Automotive consumption is down, but the reshoring patterns might mean that steel consumption in automotive could be up for us. The parts that are weaker and could be more interest rate sensitive, for example, are already down. If anything, you may skew some of that to potential upside if you saw uptick in consumer behavior. The backdrop right now should continue for multiple years of demand with what we see.
Steve Laxton: Think HVAC. Noah's comment about automotive is a fair one. Automotive consumption is down, but the reshoring patterns might mean that steel consumption in automotive could be up for us. The parts that are weaker and could be more interest rate sensitive, for example, are already down. If anything, you may skew some of that to potential upside if you saw uptick in consumer behavior. The backdrop right now should continue for multiple years of demand with what we see.
Speaker #2: And we see strength, at least for the next couple of years, in that same band or more. So the parts of the market that are weak right now have to do with consumer-oriented activities.
Speaker #5: But the backdrop right now should continue for multiple years of demand with what we see.
Speaker #2: Think HVAC—NOAA's comment about automotive is a fair one. Automotive consumption is down, but the reassuring patterns might mean that steel consumption in automotive could be up for us.
Speaker #4: Okay. And then maybe on the West Virginia, Mel, can you just remind us about how to think about the utilization rates over the next two years and will the demand outlook change how the ramp up progresses?
Speaker #2: And so the parts that are weaker and could be more interest rate sensitive, for example, are already down. So, if anything, you may skew some of that to potential upside if you saw an uptick in consumer behavior.
Katja Jancic: Okay. Maybe on the West Virginia mill, can you just remind us about how to think about the utilization rates over the next 2 years? Will the demand outlook change how the ramp-up progresses?
Katja Jancic: Okay. Maybe on the West Virginia mill, can you just remind us about how to think about the utilization rates over the next 2 years? Will the demand outlook change how the ramp-up progresses?
Speaker #2: Katya, this is Noah. We've shared previously that we expect to be at about 50% utilization by the end of year one. And really, our focus throughout from now through 2027 is just getting on being safe, getting reliable, and getting consistent production on the mill.
Speaker #2: But the backdrop right now should continue for multiple years of demand with what we see.
Speaker #7: Okay. And then maybe on the West Virginia mill, can you just remind us how to think about the utilization rates over the next two years, and will the demand outlook change how the ramp-up happens?
Noah Hanners: Katja, this is Noah. We've shared previously that we expect to be at about 50% utilization by the end of year 1. Really our focus from now through 2027 is just getting on being safe, getting reliable and getting consistent production on the mill. I think you can draw a straight line from January to December and expect that we'll be at 50% by the end of the year. As we move forward into 2028, then we'll be focused on growing volume, but then moving into qualifications that get us into the higher quality items, the consumer durables, the auto, that West Virginia is capable of. Yes, absolutely. We're going to make sure that we are making good financial decisions with the tons we put in that mill.
Noah Hanners: Katja, this is Noah. We've shared previously that we expect to be at about 50% utilization by the end of year 1. Really our focus from now through 2027 is just getting on being safe, getting reliable and getting consistent production on the mill. I think you can draw a straight line from January to December and expect that we'll be at 50% by the end of the year.
Speaker #2: So I think you can draw a straight line from January to December and expect that we'll be at 50% by the end of that end of the year.
Speaker #2: And as we move forward into 2028, then we'll be focused on growing volume, but then moving into qualifications that get us into the higher quality items that consumer durables, the auto, that West Virginia is capable of.
Speaker #7: Progresses?
Speaker #4: Katya, this is Noah. We've shared previously that we expect to be at about 50% utilization by the end of year one. And really, our focus throughout—from now through 2027—is just getting on being safe, getting reliable, and getting consistent production.
Speaker #2: So yes, absolutely. We're going to make sure that we are making good financial decisions with the tons we put in that mill. But one of the strengths we have is we bring up an asset like West Virginia is that we're able to shift tons around from our other mills to support that those opportunities to run that mill, especially in 2027.
Noah Hanners: As we move forward into 2028, then we'll be focused on growing volume, but then moving into qualifications that get us into the higher quality items, the consumer durables, the auto, that West Virginia is capable of. Yes, absolutely. We're going to make sure that we are making good financial decisions with the tons we put in that mill.
Speaker #4: On the mill. So, I think you can draw a straight line from January to December and expect that we'll be at 50% by the end of the year.
Speaker #4: And as we move forward into 2028, then we'll be focused on growing volume, but then moving into qualifications that get us into the higher quality items that consumer durables, the auto, that West Virginia is capable of.
Speaker #2: And we're able to take our downstream pull through. We ship about two to two and a half million tons internally. And we're able to place that most appropriately.
Stephen D. Laxton: One of the strengths we have as we bring up an asset like West Virginia is that we are able to shift tons around from our other mills to support those opportunities to run that mill, especially in 2027. We are able to take our downstream pull-through. We ship about 2 to 2.5 million tons internally, and we are able to place that most appropriately, and that is really supportive of a strong ramp for West Virginia.
Steve Laxton: One of the strengths we have as we bring up an asset like West Virginia is that we are able to shift tons around from our other mills to support those opportunities to run that mill, especially in 2027. We are able to take our downstream pull-through. We ship about 2 to 2.5 million tons internally, and we are able to place that most appropriately, and that is really supportive of a strong ramp for West Virginia.
Speaker #2: And that's really supportive of a strong ramp for West Virginia.
Speaker #4: So yes, absolutely. We're going to make sure that we are making good financial decisions with the tons we put in that mill. But one of the strengths we have as we bring up an asset like West Virginia is that we're able to shift tons around from our other mills to support those opportunities to run that mill, especially in 2027.
Speaker #3: The other comment, Katya, I would make is look, we've done this for a long time. We know how to do this. We know the markets.
Speaker #3: We've started mills up in great environments and we've started mills up in some very difficult markets. And so when you ask about the demand and potentially changing in the ramp up, look, most recently, Brandenburg, Brandenburg did not start up in a wonderfully robust demand drivers like we're seeing today.
Leon Topalian: The other comment, Katja, I would make is, look, we have done this for a long time. We know how to do this. We know the markets. We have started mills up in great environments, and we have started mills up in some very difficult markets. When you ask about the demand potentially changing in the ramp-up. Look, most recently, Brandenburg. Brandenburg did not start up any wonderfully robust demand drivers like we are seeing today. Look, Brad and the team and the Plate group balanced that out very nicely, just like Noah described, right? We have multiple assets where we are able to utilize and balance some tons. However, West Virginia could not be starting up at a better time. They have run their first coil through the pickle line last month, as Noah indicated, and it is going to ramp up through the rest of this year.
Leon Topalian: The other comment, Katja, I would make is, look, we have done this for a long time. We know how to do this. We know the markets. We have started mills up in great environments, and we have started mills up in some very difficult markets. When you ask about the demand potentially changing in the ramp-up. Look, most recently, Brandenburg.
Speaker #4: And we're able to take our downstream pull-through. We ship about 2 to 2.5 million tons internally, and we're able to place that most appropriately.
Speaker #3: But look. Brad and the team and the play group balance that out very nicely, just like Noah described, right? We have multiple assets where we're able to utilize and balance some tons.
Speaker #4: And that's really supportive of a strong ramp for West Virginia.
Speaker #1: The other comment, Katya, I would make is, look, we've done this for a long time. We know how to do this. We know the markets.
Leon Topalian: Brandenburg did not start up any wonderfully robust demand drivers like we are seeing today. Look, Brad and the team and the Plate group balanced that out very nicely, just like Noah described, right? We have multiple assets where we are able to utilize and balance some tons. However, West Virginia could not be starting up at a better time. They have run their first coil through the pickle line last month, as Noah indicated, and it is going to ramp up through the rest of this year.
Speaker #1: We've started mills up in great environments, and we've started mills up in some very difficult markets. And so, when you ask about the demand and potentially changing in the ramp-up—look, most recently, Brandenburg did not start up in a wonderfully robust demand environment like we're seeing today.
Speaker #3: However, West Virginia couldn't be starting up at a better time. So they've run their first coil through the pickle line. Last month, as Noah indicated, and it's going to ramp up through the rest of this year.
Speaker #3: So again, from a demand picture, to have the pull through that way, while you're starting up a mill is obviously ideal, but look, we've balanced that.
Speaker #1: But look, Brad and the team and the play group balanced that out very nicely, just like Noah described, right? We have multiple assets where we're able to utilize and balance some tons.
Speaker #3: We've seen it on both sides of the equation and we know our customers, we know how to balance this and again, what I would expect is we go into '27, those demand drivers are going to still be very robust and just create a much better platform for this mill as it finds its way up to 50, 60, 70 percent utilization.
Leon Topalian: Again, from a demand picture to have the pull through that way while you are starting up a mill is obviously ideal. Look, we have balanced that. We have seen it on both sides of the equation, and we know our customers, we know how to balance this. Again, what I would expect as we go into 2027, those demand drivers are going to still be very robust and just create a much better platform for this mill as it finds its way up to 50%, 60%, 70% utilization.
Leon Topalian: Again, from a demand picture to have the pull through that way while you are starting up a mill is obviously ideal. Look, we have balanced that. We have seen it on both sides of the equation, and we know our customers, we know how to balance this. Again, what I would expect as we go into 2027, those demand drivers are going to still be very robust and just create a much better platform for this mill as it finds its way up to 50%, 60%, 70% utilization.
Speaker #1: However, West Virginia couldn't be starting up at a better time. So, they've run their first coil through the pickle line last month, as Noah indicated, and it's going to ramp up through the rest of this year.
Speaker #1: So again, from a demand picture, to have the pull-through that way while you're starting up a mill is obviously ideal. But look, we've balanced that.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Your next question from the line of Carlos de Alba. Of Morgan Stanley. Carlos, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: We've seen it on both sides of the equation, and we know our customers. We know how to balance this, and again, what I would expect as we go into '27: those demand drivers are going to still be very robust and just create a much better platform for this mill as it finds its way up to 50%, 60%, 70% utilization.
Speaker #7: Yeah. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I wonder if you could provide maybe a little bit more color on the raw material pricing. I think you mentioned if I understood correctly that you price your DRI based on pig iron could you maybe elaborate on any lags on that reference pricing and what that maybe specific pig iron price you are imported pig iron pricing in the US?
Katja Jancic: Thank you.
Katja Jancic: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question from the line of Carlos de Alba of Morgan Stanley. Carlos, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question from the line of Carlos de Alba of Morgan Stanley. Carlos, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Carlos de Alba: Yeah. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I wonder if you could provide maybe a little bit more color on the raw materials pricing. I think you mentioned, if I understood correctly, that you price your DRI based on pig iron. Could you maybe elaborate on any lag on that reference pricing and what that maybe specific pig iron price you're looking at? Is it the imported pig iron price in the US? Is it the exported price from Brazil? Anything would be helpful given the material increase in profitability at that segment.
Carlos de Alba: Yeah. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I wonder if you could provide maybe a little bit more color on the raw materials pricing. I think you mentioned, if I understood correctly, that you price your DRI based on pig iron. Could you maybe elaborate on any lag on that reference pricing and what that maybe specific pig iron price you're looking at? Is it the imported pig iron price in the US? Is it the exported price from Brazil? Anything would be helpful given the material increase in profitability at that segment.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question from the line of Carlos de Alba. Of Morgan Stanley. Carlos, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Is it the exported price from Brazil? Anything would be helpful given the material increase in profitability at that segment?
Speaker #6: Yeah, thank you. Good morning, everyone. I wonder if you could provide maybe a little bit more color on the raw material pricing. I think you mentioned, if I understood correctly, that you price your DRI based on pig iron.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Carlos, I'll take that one. This is Al there. We don't typically talk about the direct correlation between our transfer price and pig iron.
Speaker #6: Could you maybe elaborate on any lags on that reference pricing, and what that maybe specific big iron price you’re looking at? Is it the imported big iron pricing in the U.S.?
Speaker #2: But as you said, it is influenced by the price of pig iron. So as pig iron prices go up, our DRI transfer price goes up.
Speaker #2: And that was a benefit to us in the quarter. In terms of the lag, I mean, certainly there is a lag. It's a long sales cycle from when we buy iron or pellets, we convert them to DRI and get them to our mills.
Al Baird: Yeah, Carlos, I'll take that one. This is Al Bayer. We don't typically talk about the direct correlation between our transfer price and pig iron, as you said, it is influenced by the price of pig iron. As pig iron prices go up, our DRI transfer price goes up. That was a benefit to us in the quarter. In terms of the lag, certainly there is a lag. It's a long sales cycle from when we buy iron ore pellets, we convert them to DRI and get them to our mills. I really don't want to quantify that for you because it varies a lot based on inventory positions all through that supply chain, but there is a lag. Help me out, too. I want to make sure I cover what you're asking. Was there any piece of that that you would like more color on?
Allen Behr: Yeah, Carlos, I'll take that one. This is Al Bayer. We don't typically talk about the direct correlation between our transfer price and pig iron, as you said, it is influenced by the price of pig iron. As pig iron prices go up, our DRI transfer price goes up. That was a benefit to us in the quarter. In terms of the lag, certainly there is a lag.
Speaker #6: Is it the exported price from Brazil? Anything would be helpful, given the material increase in profitability of that segment.
Speaker #2: I really don't want to quantify that for you because it varies a lot based on inventory positions, all through that supply chain. But there is a lag.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Carlos, I'll take that one. This is Al here. We don't typically talk about the direct correlation between our transfer price and pig iron.
Speaker #2: Help me out too. I want to make sure I cover what you're asking. Was there any piece of that that you would like more color on?
Allen Behr: It's a long sales cycle from when we buy iron ore pellets, we convert them to DRI and get them to our mills. I really don't want to quantify that for you because it varies a lot based on inventory positions all through that supply chain, but there is a lag. Help me out, too. I want to make sure I cover what you're asking. Was there any piece of that that you would like more color on?
Speaker #4: But as you said, it is influenced by the price of pig iron. So, as pig iron prices go up, our DRI transfer price goes up.
Speaker #7: No, maybe just when you price your DRI, you looked at what specific index for pig iron. Is it the imported price in the US or perhaps is the exported price from Brazil?
Speaker #4: And that was a benefit to us in the quarter. In terms of the lag, I mean, certainly there is a lag. It's a long sales cycle from when we buy iron ore pellets, we convert them to DRI and get them to our mills.
Speaker #4: I really don't want to quantify that for you because it varies a lot based on inventory positions all through that supply chain. But there is a lag.
Speaker #2: It's influenced by the price of pig. I think I'd leave it at that, Carlos. The transfer price is influenced by the price of pig.
Carlos de Alba: No, maybe just when you price your DRI, you looked at what specific index for pig iron. Is it the imported price in the US, or perhaps is the exported price from Brazil?
Carlos de Alba: No, maybe just when you price your DRI, you looked at what specific index for pig iron. Is it the imported price in the US, or perhaps is the exported price from Brazil?
Speaker #2: And it will flow correlated to the price of pig. I really don't want to elaborate more deeply on the mechanisms for it other than to share with you.
Speaker #4: Help me out too. I want to make sure I cover what you're asking. Was there any part of that that you would like more detail on?
Speaker #6: No. Maybe just, when you price your DRI, you look at what specific index for pig iron. Is it the imported price in the U.S., or perhaps is it the export price from Brazil?
Speaker #2: It's influenced. And as pig goes up, you can assume that our transfer price will go up.
Al Baird: It's influenced by the price of pig. I think I'd leave it at that, Carlos. The transfer price is influenced by the price of pig, and it will flow correlated to the price of pig. I really don't want to elaborate more deeply on the mechanisms for it other than to share with you its influence. As pig goes up, you can assume that our transfer price will go up.
Allen Behr: It's influenced by the price of pig. I think I'd leave it at that, Carlos. The transfer price is influenced by the price of pig, and it will flow correlated to the price of pig. I really don't want to elaborate more deeply on the mechanisms for it other than to share with you its influence. As pig goes up, you can assume that our transfer price will go up.
Speaker #7: Yeah, fair enough. Thank you. And another question I had is related to the imports of beans and rebars. Recently, they are picking up. You flagged that in your presentation.
Speaker #4: It's influenced by the price of pig. I think I'd leave it at that, Carlos. The transfer price is influenced by the price of pig.
Speaker #7: I wonder if you can elaborate as to what you think may be behind these particularly beans has increased quite significantly. And what actions could the company or the industry pursue in order to limit this increase?
Speaker #4: And it will flow correlated to the price of pig. I really don't want to elaborate more deeply on the mechanisms for it other than to share with you.
Carlos de Alba: Yeah, fair enough. Thank you. Another question I had is related to the imports of beams and rebars. Recently, they are picking up. You flagged that in your presentation. I wonder if you can elaborate as to what you think may be behind this, particularly beams have increased quite significantly. What actions could the company or the industry pursue in order to limit these increases?
Carlos de Alba: Yeah, fair enough. Thank you. Another question I had is related to the imports of beams and rebars. Recently, they are picking up. You flagged that in your presentation. I wonder if you can elaborate as to what you think may be behind this, particularly beams have increased quite significantly. What actions could the company or the industry pursue in order to limit these increases?
Speaker #3: Yeah, Carlos. I'll kick that off and look, it's actually a pretty positive story. While we don't want to see imports up and we saw a spike of about 50-plus percentage points in beans coming in Q over Q, it's a demand picture.
Speaker #4: It's influenced, and as pig goes up, you can assume that our transfer price will go up.
Speaker #6: Yeah, fair enough. Thank you. And another question I had is related to the imports of beams and rebars. Recently, they are picking up. You flagged that in your presentation.
Speaker #3: And so again, we think about our bean business at Newcore Yamato Steel and Berkeley Bean. They're sitting on backlogs today, unlike we've ever seen in the 35 history of that facility.
Speaker #6: I wonder if you can elaborate as to what you think may be behind these, particularly since pricing has increased quite significantly. And what actions could the company or the industry pursue in order to limit this increase?
Leon Topalian: Yeah, Carlos, I'll kick that off. Look, it's actually a pretty positive story. While we don't want to see imports up and we saw a spike of about 50-plus percentage points in beams coming in Q over Q, it's a demand picture. So again, we think about our beam business at Nucor-Yamato Steel and Berkeley Beam. They're sitting on backlogs today unlike we've ever seen in the 35-year history of that facility. The demand drivers are so strong that it's creating a demand profile that volume is needed, and it's coming in. So that's why you're seeing the picture. It's not a lack of demand or you're seeing US pricing versus rest of the world pricing reach some gap that the importers are willing to take that risk. Look, again, I had the opportunity to spend three years at that facility and lead that team.
Leon Topalian: Yeah, Carlos, I'll kick that off. Look, it's actually a pretty positive story. While we don't want to see imports up and we saw a spike of about 50-plus percentage points in beams coming in Q over Q, it's a demand picture. So again, we think about our beam business at Nucor-Yamato Steel and Berkeley Beam. They're sitting on backlogs today unlike we've ever seen in the 35-year history of that facility.
Speaker #3: The demand drivers are so strong that it's creating a demand profile that volume is needed and it's coming in. And so that's why you're seeing the picture.
Speaker #1: Yeah, Carlos. I'll kick that off—and, look, it's actually a pretty positive story. While we don't want to see imports up, and we saw a spike of about 50-plus percentage points in beans coming in, quarter over quarter, it's a demand picture.
Speaker #3: It's not a lack of demand or you're seeing US pricing versus rest of the world pricing reach some gap that the importers are willing to take that risk.
Leon Topalian: The demand drivers are so strong that it's creating a demand profile that volume is needed, and it's coming in. So that's why you're seeing the picture. It's not a lack of demand or you're seeing US pricing versus rest of the world pricing reach some gap that the importers are willing to take that risk. Look, again, I had the opportunity to spend three years at that facility and lead that team.
Speaker #1: And so again, we think about our beam business at Nucor Yamato Steel and Berkeley Beam. They're sitting on backlogs today unlike we've ever seen in the 35-year history of that facility.
Speaker #3: Look, again, I had the opportunity to spend three years at that facility and lead that team. When you start measuring backlogs, not in hundreds of thousands of tons, but millions, it changes the profile.
Speaker #1: The demand drivers are so strong that it's creating a demand profile where volume is needed, and it's coming in. And so that's why you're seeing the picture.
Speaker #3: And I would tell you that that team is executing the utilization rates are incredibly high. And again, the every moment in the bean group and just about every other product group for us matters.
Speaker #1: It's not a lack of demand, nor are you seeing U.S. pricing versus rest of the world pricing reach such a gap that importers are willing to take that risk.
Leon Topalian: When you start measuring backlogs, not in hundreds of thousands of tons, but millions, it changes the profile. I would tell you that that team is executing. The utilization rates are incredibly high. Again, every moment in the beam group and just about every other product group for us matters. How our teams are executing today, yeah, it's probably going to create some opportunity. At the same time, if you asked me five years ago, would I take 16% overall imports into the US? All day long. All freaking day long, right. Because in the last 20 years, we've wrestled with 22%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7% of the overall Apparent Domestic market being flooded by illegally dumped and subsidized imports. Again, even with those spikes, it is an incredibly robust demand picture and one we see continuing well into 2027.
Leon Topalian: When you start measuring backlogs, not in hundreds of thousands of tons, but millions, it changes the profile. I would tell you that that team is executing. The utilization rates are incredibly high. Again, every moment in the beam group and just about every other product group for us matters. How our teams are executing today, yeah, it's probably going to create some opportunity.
Speaker #3: So how our teams are executing today? Yeah, it's probably going to create some opportunity. At the same time, if you ask me five years ago, would I take 16% overall imports into the US all day long, all freaking day long, right?
Speaker #1: Look, again, I had the opportunity to spend three years at that facility and lead that team. When you start measuring backlogs not in hundreds of thousands of tons, but in millions, it changes the profile.
Speaker #3: Because in the last 20 years, we've wrestled with 22, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 percent of the overall apparent domestic market being flooded by illegally dumped and subsidized imports.
Speaker #1: And I would tell you that that team is executing. The utilization rates are incredibly high. And again, every moment in the beam group, and just about every other product group for us, matters.
Leon Topalian: At the same time, if you asked me five years ago, would I take 16% overall imports into the US? All day long. All freaking day long, right. Because in the last 20 years, we've wrestled with 22%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7% of the overall Apparent Domestic market being flooded by illegally dumped and subsidized imports. Again, even with those spikes, it is an incredibly robust demand picture and one we see continuing well into 2027.
Speaker #3: So again, even with those spikes, it is an incredibly robust demand picture. And when we see continuing well into '27.
Speaker #1: So, how are our teams executing today? Yeah, it's probably going to create some opportunity. At the same time, if you asked me five years ago, would I take 16% overall imports into the US all day long? All freaking day long, right?
Speaker #7: Thank you, Leon. If I may squeeze one more very quickly, I think last quarter you mentioned that you saw a steel demand in the US growing around 2 to 2 and a half percent this year.
Speaker #1: Because in the last 20 years, we've wrestled with 22, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 percent of the overall apparent domestic market being flooded by illegally dumped and subsidized imports.
Speaker #7: Has that changed? And if so, what is the new number? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Carlos, we would just reaffirm that we're about 2% growth probably this year as an industry. So you're right on the numbers.
Carlos de Alba: Thank you, Leon. If I may squeeze one more very quickly. I think last quarter you mentioned that you saw steel demand in the US growing around 2% to 2.5% this year. Has that changed? If so, what is the new number? Thank you.
Carlos de Alba: Thank you, Leon. If I may squeeze one more very quickly. I think last quarter you mentioned that you saw steel demand in the US growing around 2% to 2.5% this year. Has that changed? If so, what is the new number? Thank you.
Speaker #1: So again, even with those spikes, it is an incredibly robust demand picture, and one we see continuing well into 2027.
Speaker #7: Perfect. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Well, thank you, Leon. If I may squeeze one more very quickly, I think last quarter you mentioned that you saw a steel demand in the US growing around 2 to 2 and a half percent this year.
Stephen D. Laxton: 2%. Yeah, Carlos, we would just reaffirm that we're at about 2% growth probably this year as an industry. You're right on the numbers.
Steve Laxton: 2%. Yeah, Carlos, we would just reaffirm that we're at about 2% growth probably this year as an industry. You're right on the numbers.
Speaker #6: This concludes our Q&A portion. I will now turn the call back to Leon Tapalian, chair and CEO for closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Has that changed? And if so, what is the new number? Thank you.
Speaker #3: Well, thank you for joining us today. And before we wrap up, I want to once again recognize our team for delivering an outstanding second quarter and for your commitment that you demonstrate every day as we work towards our goal of becoming the world's safest steel company.
Carlos de Alba: Perfect. Thank you.
Carlos de Alba: Perfect. Thank you.
Leon Topalian: Thank you.
Leon Topalian: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Carlos, we would just reaffirm that we're at about 2% growth, probably, this year as an industry. So you're right on the numbers.
Operator: This concludes our Q&A portion. I will now turn the call back to Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO, for closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes our Q&A portion. I will now turn the call back to Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO, for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Your dedication to serving our customers, operating safely, and executing our strategy continues to set new quarter part. I also want to thank our customers and our shareholders for the trust that you place in us.
Speaker #6: Perfect. Thank you.
Leon Topalian: Well, thank you for joining us today. Before we wrap up, I want to once again recognize our team for delivering an outstanding Q2 and for your commitment that you demonstrate every day as we work towards our goal of becoming the world's safest steel company. Your dedication to serving our customers, operating safely, and executing our strategy continues to set Nucor apart. I also want to thank our customers and our shareholders for the trust that you place in us. We remain incredibly optimistic about the opportunities and the future ahead of Nucor and believe we are positioned to continue to have the best days that will be in front of us. Thank you all, and have a great day.
Leon Topalian: Well, thank you for joining us today. Before we wrap up, I want to once again recognize our team for delivering an outstanding Q2 and for your commitment that you demonstrate every day as we work towards our goal of becoming the world's safest steel company. Your dedication to serving our customers, operating safely, and executing our strategy continues to set Nucor apart.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Speaker #3: This concludes our Q&A portion. I will now turn the call back to Leon Topalian, chair and CEO, for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: We remain incredibly optimistic about the opportunities in the future ahead of Newcore and believe we are positioned to continue to have the best days that will be in front of us.
Speaker #1: Well, thank you for joining us today. Before we wrap up, I want to once again recognize our team for delivering an outstanding second quarter, and for the commitment that you demonstrate every day as we work towards our goal of becoming the world's safest steel company.
Speaker #3: Thank you all and have a great day.
Leon Topalian: I also want to thank our customers and our shareholders for the trust that you place in us. We remain incredibly optimistic about the opportunities and the future ahead of Nucor and believe we are positioned to continue to have the best days that will be in front of us. Thank you all, and have a great day.
Speaker #1: Your dedication to serving our customers, operating safely, and executing our strategy continues to set new quarter marks. I also want to thank our customers and our shareholders for the trust that you place in us.
Speaker #1: We remain incredibly optimistic about the opportunities in the future ahead of Nucor and believe we are positioned to continue to have the best days that will be in front of us.
Operator: Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
Speaker #1: Thank you all, and have a great day.