Q2 2026 Abbott Laboratories Earnings Call

July 16, 2026

Speaker #1: Good morning, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Abbott's second quarter, 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be able to listen only until the question-and-answer portion of this call.

Operator: Good morning, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Abbott's Q2 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be able to listen only until the question and answer portion of this call. During the question and answer session, you will be able to ask your question by pressing the star 11 keys on your touchtone phone. This call is being recorded by Abbott. With the exception of any participant's questions asked during the question and answer session, the entire call, including the question and answer session, is material copyrighted by Abbott. It cannot be recorded or rebroadcast without Abbott's express written permission. I would now like to introduce Mr. Mike Comilla, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: During the question-and-answer session, you will be able to ask your question by pressing the star-one-one (*) keys on your touch-tone phone. This call is being recorded by Abbott.

Speaker #1: With the exception of any participant's questions asked during the question-and-answer session, the entire call, including the question-and-answer session, is material copyrighted by Abbott. It cannot be recorded or rebroadcast without Abbott's express written permission.

Speaker #1: I would now like to introduce Mr. Michael Comilla, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Robert Ford, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Phil Boudreau, Executive Vice President, Finance and Chief Financial Officer.

Michael Comilla: Good morning, thank you for joining us. With me today are Robert Ford, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Phil Boudreau, Executive Vice President, Finance, and Chief Financial Officer. Robert and Phil will provide opening remarks. Following their comments, we'll take your questions. Before we get started, some statements made today may be forward-looking for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including the expected financial results for 2026. Abbott cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements. Economic, competitive, governmental, technological, and other factors that may affect Abbott's operations are discussed in Item 1A, Risk Factors, to our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025.

Mike Comilla: Good morning, thank you for joining us. With me today are Robert Ford, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Phil Boudreau, Executive Vice President, Finance, and Chief Financial Officer. Robert and Phil will provide opening remarks. Following their comments, we'll take your questions. Before we get started, some statements made today may be forward-looking for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including the expected financial results for 2026. Abbott cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements. Economic, competitive, governmental, technological, and other factors that may affect Abbott's operations are discussed in Item 1A, Risk Factors, to our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025.

Speaker #2: Robert and Phil will provide opening remarks. Following their comments, we'll take your questions. Before we get started, some statements made today may be forward-looking for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including the expected financial results for 2026.

Speaker #2: Abbott cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Economic, competitive, governmental, technological, and other factors that may affect Abbott's operations are discussed in Item 1A: Risk Factors, in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025.

Speaker #2: Abbott undertakes no obligation to release publicly any revisions to forward-looking statements as a result of subsequent events or developments, except as required by law.

Michael Comilla: Abbott undertakes no obligation to release publicly any revisions to forward-looking statements as a result of subsequent events or developments, except as required by law. On today's conference call, as in the past, non-GAAP financial measures will be used to help investors understand Abbott's ongoing business performance. These non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled with the comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings news release and regulatory filings from today, which are available on our website at abbott.com. Note that Abbott has not provided the related GAAP financial measures on a forward-looking basis for the non-GAAP financial measures for which it is providing guidance because the company is unable to predict with reasonable certainty, and without unreasonable effort, the timing and impact of certain items which could significantly impact Abbott's results in accordance with GAAP. Unless otherwise noted, our commentary on sales growth refers to comparable sales growth.

Mike Comilla: Abbott undertakes no obligation to release publicly any revisions to forward-looking statements as a result of subsequent events or developments, except as required by law. On today's conference call, as in the past, non-GAAP financial measures will be used to help investors understand Abbott's ongoing business performance. These non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled with the comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings news release and regulatory filings from today, which are available on our website at abbott.com. Note that Abbott has not provided the related GAAP financial measures on a forward-looking basis for the non-GAAP financial measures for which it is providing guidance because the company is unable to predict with reasonable certainty, and without unreasonable effort, the timing and impact of certain items which could significantly impact Abbott's results in accordance with GAAP. Unless otherwise noted, our commentary on sales growth refers to comparable sales growth.

Speaker #2: On today's conference call, as in the past, non-GAAP financial measures will be used to help investors understand Abbott's ongoing business performance. These non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled with the comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings news release and regulatory filings from today.

Speaker #2: These are available on our website at abbott.com. Note that Abbott has not provided the related GAAP financial measures on a forward-looking basis for the non-GAAP financial measures for which it is providing guidance, because the company is unable to predict with reasonable certainty and without unreasonable effort the timing and impact of certain items which could significantly impact Abbott's results in accordance with GAAP.

Speaker #2: Unless otherwise noted, our commentary on sales growth refers to comparable sales growth. Our definition of comparable sales growth can be found on page 2 of our press release issued earlier today.

Michael Comilla: Our definition of comparable sales growth can be found on page two of our press release issued earlier today, and a reconciliation table containing the data needed to calculate comparable sales growth can be found on pages 16 and 17. With that, I will now turn the call over to Robert.

Mike Comilla: Our definition of comparable sales growth can be found on page two of our press release issued earlier today, and a reconciliation table containing the data needed to calculate comparable sales growth can be found on pages 16 and 17. With that, I will now turn the call over to Robert.

Speaker #2: And a reconciliation table containing the data needed to calculate comparable sales growth can be found on pages 16 and 17. With that, I will now turn the call over to Robert.

Speaker #3: Okay, Mike. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Today, we issued second quarter results that included sales growth of 4.8%, which represents an acceleration compared to the previous two quarters.

Robert Ford: Okay, Mike. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Today, we issued Q2 results that included sales growth of 4.8%, which represents an acceleration compared to the previous two quarters, and adjusted earnings per share of $1.31, which exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range and the consensus estimate. Considering our Q2 results and updated outlook for the remainder of the year, we are reaffirming our full-year guidance for comparable sales growth of 6.5% to 7.5% and raising our EPS guidance range to $5.45 to $5.60.

Speaker #3: Adjusted earnings per share were $1.31, which exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range and the consensus estimate. Considering our second quarter results and updated outlook for the remainder of the year, we are reaffirming our full-year guidance for comparable sales growth of 6.5% to 7.5% and raising our EPS guidance range to $5.45 to $5.60.

Speaker #3: Before summarizing our second quarter results, I want to highlight a few recent pipeline achievements, including completing patient enrollment in our Tectonic Coronary IVL pivotal trial, completing our FDA submission for approval of our new Analyt360 left atrial appendage device, and obtaining CE Mark for Libre Duo, the world's first dual glucose-ketone monitoring sensor designed to detect rising ketone levels and help prevent diabetic ketoacidosis.

Robert Ford: Before summarizing our Q2 results, I want to highlight a few recent pipeline achievements, including completing patient enrollments in our TECTONIC Coronary IVL pivotal trial, completing our FDA submission for approval of our new Amulet 360 left atrial appendage device, and obtaining CE mark for Libre Duo, the world's first dual glucose-ketone monitoring sensor designed to detect rising ketone levels and help prevent diabetic ketoacidosis. We anticipate launching these three new products, along with our TactiFlex Duo PFA catheter in the US, in a steady cadence over the next 12 months. We also remain on track to begin patient enrollment in Q4 for several important clinical trials that will support a steady cadence of future product launches.

Speaker #3: We anticipate launching these three new products, along with our TactiFlex Duo PFA catheter, in the U.S. in a steady cadence over the next 12 months.

Speaker #3: We also remain on track to begin patient enrollment in the fourth quarter for several important clinical trials that will support a steady cadence of future product launches.

Speaker #3: And these include a balloon-expandable TAVI valve, a leadless conduction system pacing device leveraging our Aveir pacemaker, a mitral replacement valve developed following our acquisition of Cephea Valve Technologies, a peripheral IVL device developed following the acquisition of CSI, and a wearable continuous lactate monitoring sensor designed to reduce the risk of sepsis following discharge from the hospital.

Robert Ford: These include a balloon-expandable TAVR valve, a leadless conduction system pacing device leveraging our Aveir pacemaker, a mitral replacement valve developed following our acquisition of Cephea Valve Technologies, a peripheral IVL device developed following the acquisition of CSI, and a wearable continuous lactate monitoring sensor designed to reduce the risk of sepsis following discharge from hospital. I'll now review our Q2 results in more detail before I turn the call over to Phil, and I'll start with diagnostics. Diagnostic test results inform approximately 70% of all healthcare decisions, making testing volumes a reliable barometer of overall healthcare activity and demand. Our test volume data, that's sourced directly from our diagnostic instruments located across the United States and around the world, continues to reflect strong and stable demand for testing.

Speaker #3: I'll now review our second quarter results in more detail before I turn the call over to Phil, and I'll start with Diagnostics. Diagnostic test results inform approximately 70% of all healthcare decisions.

Speaker #3: Making testing volumes a reliable barometer of overall healthcare activity and demand, our test volume data, sourced directly from our diagnostic instruments located across the United States and around the world, continues to reflect strong and stable demand for testing.

Speaker #3: And we view this as a positive indication of the durable underlying demand for healthcare, not just in the U.S., but globally. This durable demand was evident in our core laboratory results this quarter, where U.S. business grew 7.5%, and we continued our track record of strong performance across Latin America.

Robert Ford: We view this as a positive indication of the durable underlying demand for healthcare, not just in the US, but globally. This durable demand was evident in our core laboratory results this quarter, where US business grew 7.5% and we continued our track record of strong performance across Latin America. In Rapid and Molecular Diagnostics, sales declined 8%, driven by the anticipated decrease in respiratory virus testing as a result of a weaker than normal season that concluded during Q2. In Cancer Diagnostics, sales growth of 13% was driven by mid-teens growth of Cologuard, which is benefiting from a growing base of both new and repeat Cologuard users, as well as contributions to growth from our precision oncology and international business.

Speaker #3: In rapid and molecular diagnostics, sales declined 8%, driven by the anticipated decrease in respiratory virus testing as a result of a weaker-than-normal season that concluded during the second quarter.

Speaker #3: In cancer diagnostics, sales growth of 13% was driven by mid-teens growth of Cologuard, which has benefited from a growing base of both new and repeat Cologuard users, as well as contributions to growth from our precision oncology and international business.

Speaker #3: We continue to expect cancer diagnostics growth in the second half of the year to be higher than the first half, supported by increasing volumes from care gap programs, recently launched tests, and continued international adoption.

Robert Ford: We continue to expect cancer diagnostics growth in H2 to be higher than H1, supported by increasing volumes from care gap programs, recently launched tests, and continued international adoption. In May, the American Cancer Society updated its colorectal cancer screening guidelines, reaffirming Cologuard and Cologuard Plus as preferred screening options. This designation reflects Cologuard's market-leading accuracy and superior ability to detect cancer at earlier stages compared to other available tests. Moving to nutrition, where sales finished slightly ahead of our expectations for the second consecutive quarter. Sales increased sequentially by $125 million, driven by improving performance in both pediatric and adult nutrition. In pediatric nutrition, our international business was the first of our nutrition businesses to transition back to delivering positive growth, delivering growth of 6.5% in Q2.

Speaker #3: In May, the American Cancer Society updated its colorectal cancer screening guidelines, reaffirming Cologuard and Cologuard Plus as preferred screening options. This designation reflects Cologuard's market-leading accuracy and superior ability to detect cancer at earlier stages compared to other available tests.

Speaker #3: Moving to Nutrition, where sales finished slightly ahead of our expectations for the second consecutive quarter. Sales increased sequentially by $125 million, driven by improving performance in both pediatric and adult nutrition.

Speaker #3: In pediatric nutrition, our adult in pediatric nutrition, our international business was the first of our nutrition businesses to transition back to delivering positive growth, delivering growth of 6.5% in the quarter.

Speaker #3: In U.S. pediatric, we exited the quarter with the full benefit of recent WIC contract wins reflected in our run rate. As a result, Abbott is now the market leader in both WIC and non-WIC segments.

Robert Ford: In US pediatric, we exited Q2 with the full benefit of recent WIC contract wins reflected in our run rate. As a result, Abbott is now the market leader in both WIC and non-WIC segments. In adult nutrition, we continue to see positive volume trends in response to the price actions implemented late last year. In the US, retail consumption of Ensure has increased double digits compared to consumption levels exiting last year and achieved the highest year-over-year consumption growth in the past year and a half. We're also making good progress in our international adult nutrition business, where sales continue to grow sequentially and are now approaching levels similar to this time last year. We're also benefiting from sales contributions from new innovation, including new versions of Ensure that feature higher protein, lower sugar, and refreshed labeling and packaging.

Speaker #3: In Adult Nutrition, we continue to see positive volume trends in response to the price actions implemented late last year. In the U.S., retail consumption of Ensure increased double digits compared to consumption levels exiting last year, and achieved the highest year-over-year consumption growth in the past year and a half.

Speaker #3: We're also making good progress in our international adult nutrition business, where sales continue to grow sequentially and are now approaching levels similar to this time last year.

Speaker #3: We're also benefiting from sales contributions from new innovation, including new versions of Ensure that feature higher protein, lower sugar, and refreshed labeling and packaging.

Speaker #3: So overall, I remain encouraged by the progress we are making and confident in our outlook for the second half of the year. Turning to EPD, where we continue to deliver consistently strong performance, sales grew 9% in the quarter, reflecting broad-based growth across our largest markets, including India, Latin America, and Southeast Asia.

Robert Ford: Overall, I remain encouraged by the progress we are making and confident in our outlook for H2. Turning to EPD, where we continue to deliver consistently strong performance. Sales grew 9% in Q2, reflecting broad-based growth across our largest markets, including India, Latin America, and Southeast Asia. This performance reflects the disciplined execution of our teams and the growing demand for healthcare in emerging markets. This demand is a result of evolving market dynamics, including expanding access to healthcare, aging populations, and a rising need to treat both acute and chronic conditions. These structural tailwinds, combined with our broad portfolio, expanding pipeline of biosimilars, and strong brand equity, position EPD to sustainably deliver high single-digit sales growth. I'll wrap up with medical devices, where sales grew 8.5%.

Speaker #3: This performance reflects a disciplined execution of our teams and the growing demand for healthcare in emerging markets. This demand is a result of evolving market dynamics, including expanding access to healthcare, aging populations, and a rising need to treat both acute and chronic conditions.

Speaker #3: These structural tailwinds, combined with our broad portfolio, expanding pipeline of biosimilars, and strong brand equity, position EPD to sustainably deliver high single-digit sales growth.

Speaker #3: And I'll wrap up with Medical Devices, where sales grew 8.5%. Growth of 8.5% in our cardiovascular device portfolio was led by low-teens growth in Electrophysiology, and high single-digit growth in Rhythm Management and Heart Failure.

Robert Ford: Growth of 8.5% in our cardiovascular device portfolio was led by low teens growth in Electrophysiology and high single-digit growth in rhythm management heart failure. In Electrophysiology, Q2 marked the beginning of an acceleration in our growth trajectory. We launched our next generation Volt PFA catheter, commonly referred to as Volt 2.0, in the US in May. We expect to transition from limited market to full market release in Q3. Internationally, the expanding rollout of Volt and Tactiflex Duo is gaining strong traction, driving growth of more than 20% in Europe. We remain confident in our outlook for H2, including our expectation to begin outperforming the market and recapturing share.

Speaker #3: In electrophysiology, the second quarter marked the beginning of an acceleration in our growth trajectory. We launched our next-generation Bolt PFA catheter, commonly referred to as Bolt 2.0, in the U.S. in May, and we expect to transition from limited market to full market release in the third quarter.

Speaker #3: Internationally, the expanding rollout of Volt and TactiFlex Duo is gaining strong traction, driving growth of more than 20% in Europe. We remain confident in our outlook for the second half of the year, including our expectation to begin outperforming the market and recapturing share.

Speaker #3: In rhythm management, sales grew 9.5% as we continue to expand the use of Avera across both the single- and dual-chamber segments of the pacemaker market and drive broader adoption of this innovative technology internationally.

Robert Ford: In rhythm management, sales grew 9.5% as we continue to expand the use of Aveir across both the single and dual chamber segments of the pacemaker market and drive broader adoption of this innovative technology internationally. In heart failure, growth of 9% was led by double-digit growth in the US, driven by our market-leading portfolio of heart assist devices that address both chronic and acute patient needs. In diabetes care, continuous glucose monitoring sales exceeded $2 billion, reflecting growth of 9.5% in the quarter. In May, we secured CE mark for Libre Duo, the world's first dual glucose ketone wearable sensor. We will begin the international rollout of Libre Duo in the fall, and we look forward to bringing this innovative new technology to the United States market after we obtain FDA approval. In summary, we remain highly focused on disciplined execution each quarter.

Speaker #3: In heart failure, growth of 9% was led by double-digit growth in the U.S., driven by our market-leading portfolio of heart assist devices that address both chronic and acute patient needs.

Speaker #3: In Diabetes Care, continuous glucose monitoring sales exceeded $2 billion, reflecting growth of 9.5% in the quarter. In May, we secured CE mark for Libre Duo, the world's first dual glucose/ketone wearable sensor.

Speaker #3: We will begin the international rollout of Libre Duo in the fall, and we look forward to bringing this innovative new technology to the United States market after we obtain FDA approval.

Speaker #3: So, in summary, we remain highly focused on disciplined execution each quarter. Our second quarter results represent an important building block as we move into the second half of the year.

Robert Ford: Our Q2 results represent an important building block as we move into the H2 of the year. We have momentum building across the portfolio and clear line of sight to the key drivers of sales growth acceleration that are forecasted in the H2. Our continued focus on gross margin expansion gives us confidence in raising our full-year EPS guidance, and we have several new products that we anticipate launching at a steady cadence over the next 12 months. I'll turn over the call to Phil.

Speaker #3: We have momentum building across the portfolio, and a clear line of sight to the key drivers of sales growth acceleration that are forecasted in the second half.

Speaker #3: Our continued focus on gross margin expansion gives us confidence in raising our full-year EPS guidance. We also have several new products that we anticipate launching at a steady cadence over the next 12 months.

Speaker #3: And I'll turn over the call to Phil.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Robert. As Mike mentioned earlier, please note that all references to sales growth rates, unless otherwise noted, are on a comparable basis. Turning to our second quarter results, sales increased 4.8% on a comparable basis, and adjusted earnings per share of $1.31 exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range and the consensus estimate.

Phil Boudreau: Thanks, Robert. As Mike mentioned earlier, please note that all references to sales growth rates, unless otherwise noted, are on a comparable basis. Turning to our Q2 results, sales increased 4.8% on a comparable basis and adjusted earnings per share of $1.31 exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range and the consensus estimate. Foreign exchange had a favorable year-over-year impact of 0.8% on Q2 sales, which was a slight improvement compared to our expectations at the time of our earnings call in April. Regarding other aspects of the P&L, the adjusted gross margin profile was 58.0% of sales, representing an increase of 100 basis points compared to the prior year. The improvement was broad-based, reflecting favorable business mix within the legacy Abbott portfolio and from the addition of Exact Sciences, as well as the continued operational improvements and disciplined execution of our margin expansion initiatives.

Speaker #1: Foreign exchange had a favorable year-over-year impact of 0.8% on second-quarter sales, which was a slight improvement compared to our expectations at the time of our earnings call in April.

Speaker #1: Regarding other aspects of the P&L, the adjusted gross margin profile was 58.0% of sales, representing an increase of 100 basis points compared to the prior year.

Speaker #1: The improvement was broad-based, reflecting favorable business mix within the legacy Abbott portfolio and from the addition of Exact Sciences, as well as continued operational improvements and disciplined execution of our margin expansion initiatives.

Speaker #1: Adjusted R&D was 6.9% of sales, and adjusted SG&A was 28.6% of sales. Based on current rates, we expect exchange to have a positive impact of approximately 1% on full-year sales.

Phil Boudreau: Adjusted R&D was 6.9% of sales and adjusted SG&A was 28.6% of sales. Based on current rates, we expect exchange to have a positive impact of approximately 1% on full year sales, which includes our expectation for exchange to have a negative impact of approximately 1% on Q3 sales. For the Q3, we forecast adjusted earnings per share of $1.38 to $1.46. With that, we'll now open the call for questions.

Speaker #1: This includes our expectation for exchange to have a negative impact of approximately 1% on third-quarter sales. For the third quarter, we forecast adjusted earnings per share of $1.38 to $1.46.

Speaker #1: With that, we'll now open the call for questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising you that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. For optimal sound quality, we kindly ask that you please use your handset instead of your speakerphone when asking your question. Again, that's star one one to ask a question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Robert Marcus from J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.

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Speaker #2: And again, that's star one to ask a question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Robert Marcus from J.P. Morgan.

Speaker #2: Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Oh, great. Good morning. Thank you very much for taking the questions. Robert, if I may, two questions—one a market question, and one an Abbott question.

Robert Ford: Oh, great. Good morning. Thank you very much for taking the questions. Robert, if I may, two. One, a market question, one an Abbott question. If I start with the market question, I think a theme that a lot of investors are focused on, given some of the negative pre-announcements out of the hospital sector is the potential for decelerating procedure volumes, particularly in the US. We heard from J&J yesterday that they're not seeing any sign to that. We heard from you this morning, particularly on the diagnostic volumes where you have a great view into forward-looking volumes. It sounds like you're not seeing anything. I'd love to hear your view on the health and the forecast of procedure volumes in the US and what you're seeing and expecting.

Robert Marcus: Oh, great. Good morning. Thank you very much for taking the questions. Robert, if I may, two. One, a market question, one an Abbott question. If I start with the market question, I think a theme that a lot of investors are focused on, given some of the negative pre-announcements out of the hospital sector is the potential for decelerating procedure volumes, particularly in the US. We heard from J&J yesterday that they're not seeing any sign to that. We heard from you this morning, particularly on the diagnostic volumes where you have a great view into forward-looking volumes. It sounds like you're not seeing anything. I'd love to hear your view on the health and the forecast of procedure volumes in the US and what you're seeing and expecting.

Speaker #3: And if I start with the market question, I think a theme that a lot of investors are focused on, given some of the negative pre-announcements out of the hospital sector, is the potential for decelerating procedure volumes particularly in the US.

Speaker #3: We heard from J&J yesterday that they're not seeing any signs of that. We heard from you this morning, particularly on the diagnostic volumes, where you have a great view into forward-looking volumes.

Speaker #3: It sounds like you’re not seeing anything, so I’d love to hear your view on the health and the forecast of procedure volumes in the U.S., and what you’re seeing and expecting.

Speaker #4: Sure. Yeah. I mean, that seems to be a topic of concern for investors. I think it's less of a concern for, it's less of a concern for the companies that, at least the companies that are in the markets that we're operating in.

Robert Ford: Sure. Yeah, that seems to be a topic of concern for investors. I think it's less of a concern for the companies, at least the companies that are in the markets that we're operating in. I think there's a couple reasons for that. I think some of the concern for the decline in volumes is tied to kind of challenges with the ACA

Speaker #4: And I think there's a couple of reasons for that. I mean, I think some of the concern for the decline in volumes is tied to kind of challenges with the ACA lower enrollment rates or disenrollment rates in Medicaid and I think that's a I think that's a flawed assumption Robbie as it relates to the MedTech and diagnostic space.

Robert Ford: lower enrollment rates or disenrollment rates in Medicaid. I think that's a flawed assumption, Robbie, as it relates to the med tech and diagnostic space. If you go back to when the ACA was implemented, really the pharma companies that predominantly benefited from new patients coming into the market, we didn't see that in med tech or in diagnostics. We didn't see a spike in demand when the ACA and the expansion of Medicaid happened. I think it's logical here to assume that if we didn't see the benefit, I don't think we're going to see the downside if that truly is what's happening. I think one reason for that is that it's not Medicaid that is a driver of med tech surgical procedures in the United States. It's actually Medicare. Medicare is by far the largest US payer as it relates to devices.

Robert Ford: I think that's a flawed assumption, Robbie, as it relates to the med tech and diagnostic space. If you go back to when the ACA was implemented, really the pharma companies that predominantly benefited from new patients coming into the market, we didn't see that in med tech or in diagnostics. We didn't see a spike in demand when the ACA and the expansion of Medicaid happened. I think it's logical here to assume that if we didn't see the benefit, I don't think we're going to see the downside if that truly is what's happening. I think one reason for that is that it's not Medicaid that is a driver of med tech surgical procedures in the United States. It's actually Medicare. Medicare is by far the largest US payer as it relates to devices.

Speaker #4: If you go back to when the ACA was implemented, really, the pharma companies predominantly benefited from new patients coming into the market. We didn't see that in MedTech or in diagnostics.

Speaker #4: We didn't see a spike in demand when the ACA and the expansion of Medicaid happened. So I think it's logical here to assume that if we didn't see the benefit, I don't think we're going to see the downside.

Speaker #4: If that truly is what's happening—and I think one reason for that is that it's not Medicaid that is a driver of MedTech surgical procedures in the United States.

Speaker #4: It's actually Medicare. Medicare is by far the largest U.S. payer as it relates to devices. For us, it's over two-thirds of our U.S. cardio business.

Robert Ford: For us, it's over two-thirds of our US cardio business. I think that's one reason. The other reason that I believe it's not a concern, at least right now we're not seeing it, is that not all healthcare products are the same here, right? Demand for, say, high acuity life-saving products is very inelastic. In the US, we treat people with serious acute medical conditions, and the system doesn't save lives of only those people with insurance, right? That's why we didn't see the impact of expansion of ACA and Medicaid into the business because those patients were already being treated. If you look at our portfolio, it's really tied, and maybe this is a little bit more of an Abbott side, we're really tied to a lot of major chronic conditions like diabetes, cardiovascular, cancer, and this is less likely to forego insurance.

Speaker #4: So I think that's one reason. The other reason that I believe it's not a concern, at least right now—not seeing it—is that not all healthcare products are the same here, right?

Speaker #4: So, demand for, like, say, high-acuity life-saving products is very inelastic. In the US, we treat people with serious acute medical conditions, and the system doesn't save lives only for those people with insurance, right?

Speaker #4: And that's why we didn't see the impact of expansion of ACA and Medicaid into the business, because those patients were already being treated. And then, if you look at our portfolio, it's really tied—and maybe this is a little bit more of an Abbott side.

Speaker #4: We're really tied to a lot of major chronic conditions, like diabetes, cardiovascular, cancer, and this is less likely to forego insurance. So I think that's one reason.

Robert Ford: I think that's one reason. I think the other reason is our data is not showing that, Robbie. I'm not referring just to our weekly sales and things like that. It's just looking ahead. I think one of the benefits of our diverse model here is that it really provides a pretty holistic view of the entire healthcare system, not just in the US, but globally. I think as you mentioned, my prepared remarks, we look at our diagnostic business as not obviously a great business to be in, but it also provides us, I think, forward-looking into the healthcare environment and the healthcare system. Our instruments are located across the world, across the country, all in the States here in the US. Testing volumes in the US have held up very well.

Speaker #4: I think the other reason is our data is not showing that, Robbie. And I'm not referring just to our weekly sales and things like that.

Speaker #4: It's just looking ahead. I think one of the benefits of our diverse model here is that it really provides a pretty holistic view of the entire healthcare system, not just in the U.S., but globally.

Speaker #4: And yeah, I think, as you mentioned in my prepared remarks, we look at our diagnostics business as not obviously a great business to be in, but it also provides us, I think, with a forward-looking view into the healthcare environment and the healthcare system.

Speaker #4: And our instruments are located across the world, across the country, all in the States here in the US. And testing volumes in the US have held up very well.

Speaker #4: Not seeing a decline including in the States that we've seen the highest level of ACA disenrollment. So we've gone as deep as looking at it from that perspective.

Robert Ford: Not seeing a decline, including in the States that we've seen the highest level of ACA disenrollment. We've gone as deep as looking at it from that perspective. Our US core lab business has accelerated growth in the last 2 quarters. Our print here is about 7.5% this quarter. If you unpack that, we've got a couple different segments in our US core lab business, Robbie. Labs, and then specifically hospital labs. These are our business of selling instruments and reagents specifically for hospital and in-hospital testing. That business was up 13% in this quarter. I think if I look at the diagnostic system as a forward-looking barometer there, we're not seeing that. We're seeing strong demand for our US cardio business. I'd argue that our US cardio business is performing better than it's ever been.

Speaker #4: Our U.S. core lab business has accelerated growth in the last two quarters. Our print here is about 7.5% this quarter.

Speaker #4: But if you unpack that, we've got a couple of different segments in our U.S. core lab business: reference labs and then specifically hospital labs.

Speaker #4: So, these are our businesses of selling instruments and reagents specifically for hospital and in-hospital testing. That business was up 13% in this quarter. So, I think if I look at the diagnostic system as a forward-looking barometer there, we're not seeing that.

Speaker #4: We're seeing strong demand for our U.S. cardio business. I'd argue that our U.S. cardio business is performing better than it's ever been. And we're seeing that same, similar strong, stable demand internationally, both in developed and emerging markets.

Robert Ford: We're seeing that same similar strong, stable demand internationally, both in developed and emerging markets. I feel very good about overall healthcare markets and especially our markets. I think I said this publicly about a month and a half ago, I continue to believe that healthcare demand is just going to continue to accelerate as we see this aging population dynamic. I think every day in the United States, you have 10,000 people that turn 65, and age is a driving factor of healthcare. I think this aging population is a global dynamic, and I think the demand is right now, we don't see it as a concern.

Speaker #4: So I feel very good about overall healthcare markets and especially our markets. I think I said this publicly about a month, month and a half ago. I continue to believe that healthcare demand is just going to continue to accelerate as we see this aging population dynamic.

Speaker #4: I think every day in the United States, you have 10,000 people that turn 65. And age is a driving factor in healthcare. So, I think this aging population is a global dynamic.

Speaker #4: And I think the demand is, right now, we don't see it as a concern.

Speaker #3: Well, that's great to hear. Maybe just a quick follow-up, one Abbott-specific. It was good to see a small beat on organic sales in the second quarter.

Robert Marcus: Well, that's great to hear. Maybe just a quick follow-up, one Abbott specific. It was good to see a small beat on organic sales in Q2. The forecast includes an acceleration in Q3 and Q4. Just would love to hear how you're feeling about the confidence level and that acceleration in the H2, and if you don't mind just highlighting some of the key growth drivers that get you there. Thanks a lot.

Speaker #3: The forecast includes an acceleration in the third and fourth quarters. I would just love to hear how you're feeling about the confidence level in that acceleration in the second half, and if you don't mind, just highlight some of the key growth drivers that get you there.

Speaker #3: Thanks a lot.

Speaker #4: Sure. Well, I'm feeling very confident, as I've said. But that feeling of confidence is really driven by a lot of hard work that the team is doing.

Robert Ford: Sure. Well, I'm feeling very confident, as I've said. That feeling of confidence is really driven by a lot of hard work that the team is doing. I think Q2 results showed that we've got momentum that's building. Our growth rate stepped up to mid-single digits from where it was in the last two quarters of low single digits. Sales dollar, sales growth rate, all of that accelerated each month during the quarter. As you look to the H2, you've got a lot of businesses, I'm sure we're going to touch on a lot of them here, but a lot of businesses are doing strong growth rates, and we forecast and continue to do those strong growth rates.

Speaker #4: I think Q2 results showed that we've got momentum that's building. Our growth rate stepped up to mid-single digits from where it was in the last two quarters of low single digits.

Speaker #4: Sales dollars, sales growth rate, all of that accelerated each month during the quarter. So as you look to the second half, you've got a lot of businesses.

Speaker #4: I'm sure we're going to touch on a lot of them here, but a lot of the businesses that are doing strong growth rates and we forecast and continue to do those strong growth rates, but the lift in the second half, 80% of that lift I'm going to call it trajectory shift is really coming from four areas.

Robert Ford: The lift in the H2, 80% of that lift, I'm going to call it trajectory shift, is really coming from four areas. Nutrition, Electrophysiology, Core Lab, and Cancer Diagnostics. Each of these four businesses are entering with a lot of momentum and line of sight to the drivers of the business. I'm sure we'll touch, double click on all of them during the call here. Listen, Nutrition is tracking slightly ahead of expectations.

Speaker #4: Nutrition, electrophysiology, core lab, and cancer diagnostics. And each of these four businesses are entering with a lot of momentum and line of sight and line of sight to the drivers of the business.

Speaker #4: And I'm sure we'll double-click on all of them during the call here. But listen, Nutrition is tracking slightly ahead of expectations. Several of our strategies—whether it's pricing, new product launches, or commercial execution—are all being done very well by the team.

Robert Ford: Several of our strategies, whether it's pricing, new product launches, commercial execution, that's all being done very well by the team. NEP, we've got a lot of great launch activity, a lot of good feedback on our new products. I expect the H2 of the market to really show that growth acceleration that we've been forecasting. In our Core Lab business, listen, our businesses have performed very well across the world. We obviously had the challenge of the VBP in China, where you had a pretty sizable portion of our international business decline for at least five quarters, around 30%. We're still forecasting a decline in the China business, much, much lower, mid-single digits. That allows some of the other businesses that have continued to do very well, and actually accelerate, to overpower that China impact.

Speaker #4: NEP, we've got a lot of great launch activity and a lot of good feedback on our new products, so I expect the second half of the market to really show that growth acceleration that we've been forecasting.

Speaker #4: In our core lab business, listen, our business is a perform very well. Across the world, we obviously had the challenge of the VVP in China where you had a pretty sizable portion of our international business decline for at least five quarters around 30%.

Speaker #4: We're still forecasting a decline in the China business, but much, much lower—mid-single digits—so that allows some of the other businesses, that are continuing to do very well and actually accelerate, to kind of overpower that China impact.

Speaker #4: And then cancer diagnostics, very good trajectory there, especially with new Cologuard users. They're exceeding our expectations. And I've learned a lot about these care gap programs.

Robert Ford: Cancer diagnostics, very good trajectory there, especially with new Cologuard users. They're exceeding our expectations. I've learned a lot about these care gap programs. I got confidence in them. We've got a lot of work around them. I'm confident in that. It's really those four businesses that represent this significant shift. Obviously, all the other businesses have got to continue to do well and they've got all their strategies. If I were to really focus on what's going to drive that H2, it's these four areas here, and they're actually going into Q3 with a lot of good momentum, some of them a little bit ahead of what we thought we would be at. We feel good about that Q2 acceleration.

Speaker #4: I've got confidence in them. We've got a lot of work around them, and so I'm confident in that. So it's really those four businesses that represent the significant shift.

Speaker #4: Obviously, all the other businesses have got to continue to do well, and they've got all their strategies. But if I were to really focus on what's going to drive that second half, it's these four areas here, and they're actually going into Q3 with a lot of good momentum.

Speaker #4: Some of them are a little bit ahead of where we thought we would be at, so we feel good about that second quarter acceleration.

Speaker #3: Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

Robert Marcus: Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Larry Beagleson from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Larry Biegelsen from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Larry Biegelsen: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Robert, I'd love to double-click on Libre. If you could talk about the Libre trends in the US and international. I think you only reported worldwide growth of 9.5%. What's the outlook for the CGM business the remainder of this year, and what's your latest thinking on the US timing for the dual ketone-glucose sensor and type 2 non-insulin coverage? Just lastly, can these accelerate your CGM growth or just maintain the current rate? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. So, Robert, I'd love to double-click on Libre. If you could talk about the Libre trends in the U.S. and internationally.

Speaker #5: I think you only reported worldwide growth of 9.5%. What's the outlook for the CGM business for the remainder of this year? And what's your latest thinking on the U.S. timing for the dual ketone-glucose sensor and type 2 non-insulin coverage?

Speaker #5: And just lastly, can these accelerate your CGM growth, or just maintain the current rate? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Sure, Larry. I loved your characterization of only 9.5% on a $2 billion quarterly business, but I get where you're coming from because we've had higher growth rates.

Robert Ford: Sure. Larry, I loved your characterization of only 9.5% on a $2 billion quarterly business. I get where you're coming from because we've had higher growth rates. I get that. I understand that. Let me see if I can unpack this a little bit so we can all get centered around this very important market of ours and how we see it. I'll get to all your questions. Let me just talk about this, and I've said this a couple times on other earnings calls. Remain very bullish about this market, Larry. As I've said in the past, you've got 75 to 80 million people around the world that could realistically be on a CGM, and you've only got 15 million so far. There's still plenty of opportunity for growth and growth acceleration. I think it's very sustainable.

Speaker #4: So I get that. I understand that. Let me see if I can unpack this a little bit, so you can all get centered around this very important market of ours and how we see it.

Speaker #4: I'll get to all of your questions, but let me just kind of talk about this—and I've said this a couple of times on other earnings calls.

Speaker #4: Remain very bullish about this market, Larry. As I've said in the past, you've got 75 to 80 million people around the world that could realistically be on a CGM.

Speaker #4: And you've only got 15 million so far, so there's still plenty of opportunity for growth and growth acceleration. And I think it's very sustainable.

Speaker #4: There are a lot of building blocks to be able to unlock that opportunity. I'd say the number one, or the one that we've seen that has the most immediate and significant impact on unlocking these opportunities, is really reimbursement expansion.

Robert Ford: There's a lot of building blocks to be able to unlock that opportunity. I'd say the number one or the one that we've seen that has the most immediate impact, and pretty significant, to unlocking these opportunities is really reimbursement expansion. We have a lot of reimbursement expansion opportunities in the funnel. We're in active discussions with a dozen or so countries that are either looking to introduce or to expand reimbursement. The reason we're having these discussions to expand or introduce these categories or expand the category is because of the robust clinical data that's been developed over a decade with this technology that supports widespread adoption. We've generated data that shows that our competitor has invested and then generated data that supports that. The data is pretty resounding. It lowers A1Cs. It reduces hospitalizations.

Speaker #4: And we have a lot of reimbursement expansion opportunities in the funnel. We're in active discussion with a dozen or so countries that are either looking to introduce or to expand reimbursement.

Speaker #4: And the reason they're having these discussions to expand or introduce these categories, or expand the category, is because of the robust clinical data that's been developed over a decade with this technology.

Speaker #4: That supports widespread adoption. We've generated data that shows that our competitor has invested in generated data that supports that, and the data is pretty resounding.

Speaker #4: It lowers A1Cs. It reduces hospitalizations. People spend more hours per day in a normal glycemic range, and that has measurable outcome discussions for the healthcare system.

Robert Ford: People spend more hours per day in a normal glycemic range. That has measurable outcome discussions to the healthcare system. The challenge, Larry, is actually trying to pinpoint the exact month or quarter as to when that reimbursement expansion is going to happen. Like you mentioned, the US, I'm going to be talking about that. It's difficult to forecast that. I would actually say it's easier to forecast the conversion of an existing eligible reimbursed patient population, the penetration of technology, and how that runs, than it is to try and pinpoint when these reimbursement expansions happen. I think when you go through a period of time like that without a major reimbursement expansion, you see this kind of market growth plateau. When I say plateau, I'm referring to 8%, 9% growth, which like I said, I don't think is not a bad growth rate.

Speaker #4: The challenge, Larry, is actually trying to pinpoint the exact month or quarter as to when that reimbursement expansion is going to happen. Like you mentioned, the U.S.—I'm going to be talking about that.

Speaker #4: But it's difficult to forecast that. I would actually say it's easier to forecast the conversion of an existing eligible reimbursed patient population than penetration of the technology and how that runs than it is to try and pinpoint when these reimbursement expansions happen.

Speaker #4: And I think when you go through a period of time like that without a major reimbursement expansion, you see this kind of market growth plateau.

Speaker #4: And when I say plateau, I'm referring to like 8%, 9% growth, which, like I said, I don't think is a bad—it's not a bad growth rate.

Speaker #4: It's just not as high as what we've seen before. And to your point on, does it do these things—do these things keep you at this growth rate, or does it accelerate?

Robert Ford: It drastically accelerates it. Right? Any one of these markets that goes to reimburse an expansion or introduction of reimbursement, it dramatically accelerates the growth rate, as we've seen in the past, Larry. You've accompanied this segment. It has significant impact. The challenge is not if these countries adopt it. The question is when and how to forecast it. It's difficult for me to, with a business of this size, to try and pinpoint the exact reimbursement. I can tell you, we are very active in active discussions with very large markets to expand or introduce reimbursement.

Speaker #4: It drastically accelerates it, right? Like any one of these markets that goes to reimbursement, or introduction of reimbursement, it dramatically accelerates the growth rate, as we've seen in the past, Larry.

Speaker #4: And you've accompanied this segment. It has significant impact. The challenge is not if these countries adopt it; the question is when and how to forecast it.

Speaker #4: And it's difficult for me, with a business of this size, to try and pinpoint the exact reimbursement. But I can tell you we are very active and in active discussions with very large markets to expand or introduce reimbursement.

Speaker #4: If I look ahead at some of the key reimbursement expansions that are coming, obviously the U.S. Type 2 is a huge opportunity. It's going to unlock around 10 million Medicare beneficiaries.

Robert Ford: If I look ahead at some of the key reimbursement expansions that are coming, obviously the US type 2 is a huge opportunity. It's going to unlock around 10 million Medicare beneficiaries. It's going to accelerate commercial insurance coverage. This could be a multi-billion-dollar opportunity, it could happen in the fall. I just can't forecast it exactly when it's going to happen. When it does happen, it is going to definitely accelerate our sales. We're planning and positioning ourselves to be in the best possible position as it relates to sales force, distribution, et cetera, to be able to capitalize on that opportunity. The international basal coverage expansion, right now, with all the work that we've done, I'd say you've got France, you've got Japan, you've got Canada that have broadly adopted this. Those are three markets that are in the top 10 international markets.

Speaker #4: It's going to accelerate commercial insurance coverage. This could be a multi-billion-dollar opportunity, and it could happen in the fall. I just can't forecast exactly when it's going to happen, but when it does happen, it is definitely going to accelerate our sales.

Speaker #4: And we're planning and positioning ourselves to be in the best possible position as it relates to Salesforce, distribution, etc., to be able to capitalize on that opportunity.

Speaker #4: The international basal coverage expansion—I mean, right now, with all the work that we've done, I'd say you've got France, you've got Japan, you've got Canada.

Speaker #4: They've broadly adopted this. Those are three markets that are in the top 10 international markets. There are another seven markets here that are pretty significant movers, some larger than these markets, that we're having discussions with. And given the clinical data, given the pressure from the societies and the patient populations, those are going to happen also.

Robert Ford: There are another seven markets here that are pretty significant movers, some larger than these markets, that we're having discussions. Given the clinical data, given the pressure from the societies and the patient populations, those are going to happen also. I just can't call it to the exact quarter. These reimbursement opportunities, they're going to accelerate it. Until that happens, I guess I'd say, yeah, you're at this 8% and 9% growth rate, which on a $2 billion or approaching $10 billion business, that's not a bad business to be in. I would say, we feel so strongly about this market and the ability for this market to accelerate and to continue to grow and the potential that exists that we're probably in the final stages here of planning for a fifth manufacturing facility.

Speaker #4: I just can't call it to the exact quarter. So, these reimbursement opportunities—they're going to accelerate it, and until that happens, I guess I'd say, yeah, you're at this 8 to 9% growth rate, which on a $2 billion or approaching $10 billion business, that's not a bad business to be in.

Speaker #4: And I would say and I would say we feel so strongly about the about this market and the ability for this market to accelerate and to continue to grow and the potential that exists that we're probably in the final stages here of planning for a fifth manufacturing facility.

Robert Ford: We got our facility up, our last facility, our fourth facility, we got up and running probably in the 2024 timeframe. Given the trajectory that I'm seeing right now, that's a 100-million-sensor facility. We're probably going to be bumping up against capacity at that facility probably in the next couple of years. We're already looking at our fifth facility, and it'll probably be a billion-dollar investment that right now we're looking at where we're going to make that investment, whether it's going to be in the United States, internationally, if it's going to be in the United States, what state we're going to do. We feel good about this market, Larry. We got plenty of growth drivers here.

Speaker #4: We got our facility up—our last facility, our fourth facility. We got up and running, probably in the 2024 timeframe, given the trajectory that I'm seeing right now. That's a 100 million sensor facility.

Speaker #4: We're probably going to be bumping up against capacity at that facility, probably in the next couple of years. So we are already looking at our fifth facility, and it'll probably be a $1 billion investment. Right now, we're looking at where we're going to make that investment—whether it's going to be in the United States, internationally, or, if it's going to be in the United States, what state we're going to do it in.

Speaker #4: So we feel good about this market, Larry, and we've got plenty of growth drivers here. I just go back to—you've got 80 million people that can use this product, and clinical data suggests that they should be using the product, and healthcare systems will benefit when they do use the product.

Robert Ford: I just go back to you've got 80 million people that can use this product, and clinical data suggests that they should be using the product, and the healthcare systems will benefit when they do use the product. Currently we're at 15. I feel very good about our business and about our position. Regarding, I think you had a question about, well, you had a question about timing of CMS expansion. I think I answered that. Timing on DGK in the US, listen, I'm not going to try and forecast that one either. What I will say is that the discussions are in, I would call very, very advanced kind of final stages. I'm not going to try and forecast that. As soon as we have it approved, we'll issue a press release, and we'll go and start preparing the market.

Speaker #4: And currently we're at 15. So I feel very good about I feel very good about our business and about our position. Regarding I think you had a question about well, you had a question about timing of CMS expansion.

Speaker #4: I think I answered that. And then, timing on DGK in the U.S.—I'm not going to try and forecast that one either. But what I will say is that the discussions are in, I would call, very, very advanced kind of final stages.

Speaker #4: And I'm not going to try and forecast that. As soon as we have it approved, we'll issue a press release, and we'll go and start preparing the market.

Speaker #4: But we are hearing great things from already from some of the from some of the European physicians that have had some early access to the product.

Robert Ford: We are hearing great things already from some of the European physicians that have had some early access to the product. We feel good about that. We got a lot of product innovation coming too, Larry. I know there's a lot of focus here on DGK. We probably have two more programs that I'm not going to talk about for competitive reasons here, that's going to be another driver of growth for us too. Again, I feel good about this market. We're making the investments. We believe in the growth trajectory and the potential that exists in it, and we're full speed in execution.

Speaker #4: So we feel good about that. And we got a lot of product innovation coming through, Larry. I mean, I know there's a lot of focus here on DGK.

Speaker #4: We probably had two more programs that I'm not going to talk about for competitive reasons here, but that's going to be another driver of growth for us too.

Speaker #4: So again, I feel good about this market. We're making the investments. We believe in the growth trajectory and the potential that exists in it.

Speaker #4: And we're full speed. And execution.

Speaker #1: Okay. Robert, thanks for the comprehensive answer. Just to set the record straight, I would say you only reported worldwide growth. I wasn't criticizing the nine and a half percent, but I just wanted to be clear about that.

Larry Biegelsen: Robert, thanks for the comprehensive answer. Just to set the record straight, I would say you only reported worldwide growth. I wasn't criticizing the 9.5%. I just wanted to be clear about that. Thank you for the comprehensive answer.

Speaker #1: But thank you for the comprehensive answer.

Robert Ford: You can criticize, Larry. That's fine. This is a good business, and it's doing very well. I know it gets a lot of attention because of us and the competitor, it's a good business. There's a lot of opportunity here. I'm just trying to provide context of the opportunities and how this will accelerate given reimbursement expansions.

Speaker #4: You can criticize, Larry. That's fine. This is a good business, and it's doing very well. I know it gets a lot of attention because of us and the competitor, but it's a good business.

Speaker #4: It's a lot of opportunity here. I'm just trying to provide context of the opportunities and how this will accelerate. Given reimbursement expansions.

Speaker #1: Understood. Thank you.

Larry Biegelsen: Understood. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question will come from Vijay Kumar from Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Vijay Kumar from Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Hi, Robert. Good morning and thank you for taking my question. Hey, I want to dive a little bit on exact sciences. In a business, did to your point, a slightly north of 13%, I think your resuming a step up and back half, maybe 16, 16 plus, and a lot of that is driven maybe some of that is pricing, some of that is care gap.

Vijay Kumar: Hi, Robert. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. Hey, I wanted to dive a little bit on Exact Sciences. Business did, to your point, slightly north of 13%. I think you're assuming a step up in H2, maybe 16%, 16% plus. A lot of that is driven, maybe some of that is pricing, some of that is CareGap. My question is, how much visibility do you have on these CareGap programs in H2 stepping up for Exact Sciences? I think a related question was Freenome just presented their redo data. Advanced adenoma detection rate was north of 18%. I think that's well above your competition.

Speaker #5: So my question is, how much visibility do you have on these care gap programs and the back half stepping up for Exact Sciences? And I think a related question was Freenome just presented their REDUCE data; advanced neoplasia detection rate was north of 18%.

Speaker #5: I think that's well above your competition. So when you think about the blood side of CRC screening, do you still expect Abbott to be the market leader on the blood side even though you're entering into the market will be slightly behind Garden?

Vijay Kumar: When you think about the blood side of CRC screening, do you still expect Abbott to be the market leader on the blood side, even though your entry into the market will be slightly behind Guardant? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Sure. Yeah. We grew 13% in the first half. Our deal model that we put together to support the acquisition for 2026 had mid-teens. I feel confident that we'll achieve that.

Robert Ford: Sure. Yeah, we grew 13% in H1. Our DEAL model that we put together to support the acquisition for 2026 had mid-teens. I feel confident that we'll achieve that. The model called for H2 being higher than H1. The integration is going very good, very well. We're not seeing any kind of issues or disruption. I'm just very impressed by the team there and their understanding of the market. They've done a good job here at making sure that I understand all the different detailed elements of how this market works and drives. To your point of the CareGap volumes ramp in H2. That's what's going to help drive. It's not just that, but it's a contributing factor to the acceleration in H2. CareGap programs really help the health systems achieve their HEDIS credit, their CMS STAR ratings.

Speaker #4: The model called for the second half being higher than the first half. And the integration is going very well. We're not seeing any kind of issues or disruption.

Speaker #4: I'm just very impressed by the team there and their understanding of the market. They've done a good job here at making sure that I understand all the different, detailed elements of how this market works and drives.

Speaker #4: To your point about the care gap, care gap volumes ramp up in the second half, and that's what's going to help drive growth. It's not just that, but it's a contributing factor to the acceleration in the second half.

Speaker #4: Care gap programs really are they help the health systems achieve their HEDIS credit, their CMR star ratings. And that focus from the healthcare systems for some reason tends to happen in the second half.

Robert Ford: That focus from the healthcare systems, for some reason, tends to happen in H2. They're looking at their scores, they're looking at their ratings, and they're looking at ways at how they can ensure that they're achieving their targets. That seems to happen a lot in H2. Do we have visibility? Yeah, we absolutely have visibility. The team is an incredible team there in terms of their market access team. They've got work to do, there's no doubt, but there's a lot of visibility to those programs, and there's a lot of conversations that are happening with the health systems. They're seeing a need to continue to push on earlier detection of Cologuard. I feel good about the ramp-up of the CareGap and the visibility to that.

Speaker #4: So they're looking at their scores. They're looking at their ratings. And they're looking at ways that how they can ensure that they're achieving their targets.

Speaker #4: That seems to happen a lot in the second half. Do we have visibility? Yeah, we absolutely have visibility. We have—the team is an incredible team there, in terms of their market access team.

Speaker #4: They've got work to do, there's no doubt. But there's a lot of visibility to those programs, and there are a lot of conversations happening with the health systems they're seeing.

Speaker #4: I need to continue to push on earlier detection of Cologuard. So I feel good about the ramp-up of the care gap and the visibility to that.

Speaker #4: You mentioned price being an element there. So as we transition from Cologuard to Cologuard Plus, that's a little bit of a tailwind also. But I think there are a lot of key growth drivers here in the medium-long-term VJ.

Robert Ford: You mentioned price being an element there, as we transition from Cologuard to Cologuard Plus, that's a little bit of a tailwind also. I think there are a lot of key growth drivers here in the medium long-term, Vijay, and they're all looking very good. If you look at the growth from Cologuard users, they're exceeding our expectations. There's a certain forecast of how many new users we'll be able to bring in, and the team of actually exceeding that target. The number of repeat users in Cologuard, we talked about the rescreen. That funnel is expanding, and it is extremely reliable in terms of, since we have the names, people want to stay up-to-date with their screening. That rescreen funnel is expanding, and that's a great opportunity for us. Obviously, Cancerguard, we're investing in that launch.

Speaker #4: And they're all looking very good. If you look at the growth from Cologuard, users they're exceeding our expectations. So there's a certain forecast of how many new users we'll be able to bring in.

Speaker #4: And the team have actually exceeded that target. The number of repeat users in Cologuard—we talked about the re-screen—that funnel is expanding, and it is extremely reliable in terms of, since we have the names, people want to stay up to date with their screening.

Speaker #4: So that re-screen funnel is expanding, and that's a great opportunity for us. Obviously, CancerGuard—we're investing in that launch, and we're going to be reviewing some of our next-generation MRD data, which will also be coming out.

Robert Ford: We're going to be reviewing some of our next-generation MRD data will be coming out also. There's international expansion. I've been involved in some of the discussions around that, and we're going to be making some pretty interesting progress there with certain governments. Then to your point, the ability to add a blood test to the portfolio is going to be extremely attractive for us. As you know, blood tests they're obviously a little bit more convenient. I think Cologuard is pretty convenient, I would say blood is a little bit more convenient than that. It has a problem, which is it doesn't have the same sensitivity as it relates to detection of precancerous polyps and earlier stage detection, right? When you think about screening, that's super important. I think we'll be the only company, say, will we be a leader in blood?

Speaker #4: There's international expansion. I've been involved in some of the discussions around that, and we're going to be making some pretty interesting progress there with certain governments.

Speaker #4: And then, to your point, the ability to add a blood test to the portfolio is going to be, I think, extremely attractive for us.

Speaker #4: Now, as you know, blood tests are obviously a little bit more convenient. I think Cologuard is pretty convenient, but I would say blood is a little bit more convenient than that.

Speaker #4: But it has a problem, which is that it doesn't have the same sensitivity when it comes to the detection of precancerous polyps and earlier-stage detection, right?

Speaker #4: And when you think about screening, that's super important. So I think we'll be the only company to say, will you be a leader in blood?

Speaker #4: I don't actually see it like that, Vijay. We want to continue to be the leader as it relates to screening, and now you're going to have a company that's going to have the opportunity to not only offer a best-in-class stool test, but now we'll also have a best-in-class blood test.

Robert Ford: I don't actually see it like that, Vijay. We want to continue to be the leader as it relates to screening, now you're going to have a company that's going to have the opportunity to not only offer a best-in-class stool test, but now we'll also have a best-in-class blood test. I think there might be opportunities, I think as you saw some of the guidelines come out from the American Cancer Society, there is a preference and a drive towards Cologuard. You still have a lot of patients that aren't up-to-date with their screening or haven't done screening, whether it's colonoscopy or Cologuard, and that'll be an opportunity for us. That'll be a new market.

Speaker #4: And I think there might be opportunities. I think, as you saw with some of the guidelines coming out from the American Cancer Society, there is a preference and a drive towards Cologuard.

Speaker #4: But if you’ve got a— you still have a lot of patients that aren’t up to date with their screening or haven’t done screening, whether it’s a colonoscopy or Cologuard.

Speaker #4: And that'll be an opportunity for us. So that'll be a new market. And I think the way I view it is, okay, we'll bring these patients, these consumers, into our screening funnel, and then we'll be able to educate them on the benefits of Cologuard.

Robert Ford: Okay, we'll bring these patients, these consumers into our screening funnel. We'll be able to educate them on the benefits of Cologuard. I think we'll be in a great position as it relates to being the only company to have both stool and blood and be able to support the health systems with that. Even with that precancerous detection being lower than Cologuard, doing a blood test, if you're not doing anything, is probably a good first step. You want to actually start to do it with a Cologuard test. Again, I see a lot of great opportunity in our cancer diagnostic business. The integration is going very well.

Speaker #4: So I think we'll be in a great position as it relates to being the only company to have both stool and blood and be able to kind of support the health systems with that even with that precancerous detection being lower than Cologuard.

Speaker #4: Doing a blood test, if you're not doing anything, is probably a good first step. But then you want to actually start to do it with a Cologuard test.

Speaker #4: So again, I see a lot of great opportunity in our cancer diagnostic business. The integration is going very well. I continue to be very impressed with this team.

Robert Ford: I continue to be very impressed with this team, and their understanding of the market that they've built, and their plan to continue to drive it.

Speaker #4: And their understanding of the market that they've built, and their plan to continue to drive it, so.

Speaker #1: That's helpful, Robert. Thank you.

Vijay Kumar: That's helpful, Robert. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question will come from Matt Taylor from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Matt Taylor from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Hi, good morning. Thanks thought it'd be worth spending a minute on EP given you have this nice series of launches. You seem to be gaining traction with Volt already.

Matt Taylor: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I thought it'd be worth spending a minute on EP, given you have this nice series of launches here, and you seem to be gaining traction with Volt already. Could you comment on market dynamics and your aspirations in the market? Maybe just talk about how you think the AF market will continue to grow, and I know you're committing to growing above market in the H2. Could you talk about how that could continue into next year and the kind of share aspirations that you have?

Speaker #5: Could you comment on market dynamics and your aspirations in the market? Maybe just talk about how you think the AF market will continue to grow, and I know you're committing to growing above market in the second half.

Speaker #5: Could you talk about how that could continue into next year and the kind of share aspirations that you have?

Speaker #4: Sure. I'm not going to give specific targets on share. I think where I'll leave it right now is, yeah, we do expect to grow faster than the market.

Robert Ford: Sure. I'm not going to give specific targets on share. I think where I'll leave it right now is, yeah, we do expect to grow faster than the market. I think we're entering this phase here where we'll start to outperform market and capture share. I think we saw early signs of that in Q2, Matt. Sales increased every month in the quarter. Very good progress there. I think what we'll really start to see that happen in the H2 as we transition from a limited market release to full market release of Volt in the US, and then continue to roll out TactiFlex Duo internationally. We continue to get very good feedback from physicians and doctors around the world that are using the product.

Speaker #4: And I think we're entering this phase here where we'll start to outperform market and capture share. I think we saw early signs of that in Q2, Matt.

Speaker #4: Sales increased every month in the quarter, and there was very good progress there. But I think what we'll really start to see happen is in the second half, as we transition from a limited market release to a full market release of Volt in the U.S., and then continue to roll out Pacitflex Duo internationally.

Speaker #4: We continue to get very great we're very good feedback from physicians and doctors around the world that are using the product. I'd say Volt for me, what I hear a lot about Volt is just the continued integration to the mapping system and not having to use a mapping system or a mapping infrastructure that's a little bit subpar versus where the market-leading mapping systems are.

Robert Ford: I did say Volt for me, what I hear a lot about Volt is just the continued integration to the mapping system and not having to use a mapping system or a mapping infrastructure that's a little bit subpar versus where the market-leading mapping systems are. Now you don't really have to take that step back a little bit. You've got a PFA catheter that's got very good mapping integration. Opportunity, especially here in the US, I keep hearing that for ASC and ASC adoption, given the open footprint of the mapping system and the ability to do these cases with general sedation, just with sedation versus general anesthesia. The ability here, we got to prove this out a little bit, but given the contact integration with mapping and the visualization of that, ability to deliver better outcomes by producing more doable lesions.

Speaker #4: So now you don't really have to take that step back a little bit. You've got a PFA catheter that's got very good mapping integration.

Speaker #4: There's especially a lot of opportunity here in the U.S. I keep hearing that for ASC and ASC adoption, given the open footprint of the mapping system and the ability to do these cases with sedation—just with sedation versus general anesthesia.

Speaker #4: So those are kind of the — and then the ability here, given the contact, we’ve got to prove this out a little bit. But given the contact and integration with mapping and the visualization of that, the ability to deliver better outcomes by producing more do-able lesions.

Speaker #4: So Volt is getting great feedback, and we feel good now that we can move to full market release. Pactiflex Duo—this is coming on the chassis of a very well-liked and understood catheter.

Robert Ford: Volt is getting great feedback, and we feel good now that we can move to full market release. TactiFlex Duo, this is coming on the chassis of a very well-liked and understood catheter in the TactiFlex chassis. That's been recognized for ease of use, versatility, pretty seamless translation between PFA and RF. See nice share capture trends in Europe. Our EP business was up 20% in Europe in the Q2, so that's good. I have high expectations for both these catheters, as I've been pretty clear over these last couple of years, our growth strategy is not going to be built off one product or one catheter that we've got to kind of monitor closely and see. Yes, these catheters will drive a lot of growth, but we believe that our right growth strategy is to really focus on selling the entire procedure.

Speaker #4: In the Pactiflex chassis. So that's been recognized for ease of use versatility. Pretty seamless transition between PFA and RF. So seeing nice shared capture trends in Europe.

Speaker #4: RAP business was up 20% in Europe in the second quarter, so that's good. I have high expectations for both these catheters, but as I've been pretty clear over these last couple of years, our growth strategy is not going to be built off like one product or one catheter.

Speaker #4: We’ve got to kind of monitor it closely and see. Yes, these catheters will drive a lot of growth, but we believe that our right growth strategy is to really focus on selling the entire procedure.

Speaker #4: And that's why we've been focusing not just on these PFA catheters, but also on the mapping systems. All of the ancillary diagnostics, the introducers, the ICE catheter.

Robert Ford: That's why we've been focusing on not just on these PFA catheters, but also on the mapping systems, all the ancillary, the diagnostics, the introducers, the ICE catheter. I mean, all of that matters, and that's what our focus is here, is to really position ourselves as a leading company in this space. We've got a nice pipeline of PFA catheters still in the works. Between now and 2029, we'll have iterations and new versions and new ideas come out. We're also equally investing in mapping and ensuring that our mapping superiority is maintained, as obviously competitors are launching their own mapping systems. We'll continue to invest in that also, and our ability to stay ahead I think is very strong. I think from a forecast perspective, I expect global EP growth to accelerate. It's in the teens right now.

Speaker #4: I mean, all of that matters. And that's what our focus is here—to really position ourselves as a leading company in this space.

Speaker #4: And we've got a nice pipeline of PFA catheters still in the works. So, between now and 2029, we'll have iterations, new versions, and new ideas come out.

Speaker #4: But we're also equally investing in mapping and ensuring that our mapping superiority is maintained, as obviously competitors are launching their own mapping systems. So we'll continue to invest in that also, and our ability to stay ahead is—I think—is very strong.

Speaker #4: So I think from a forecast perspective, I expect global EP growth accelerate. It's in the teens right now. It'll accelerate in the second half for sure.

Robert Ford: It'll accelerate in the H2 for sure, and outperforming the market. I expect that momentum that we're building this year to carry through to next year. I think we'll get an additional boost into this EP portfolio with our new LAA device. I think feedback there has been extremely positive. We filed with the FDA. I think here I'll probably feel a little bit more comfortable saying I can see a potential to be able to get this approved by year-end. With that, we'll have strong momentum going into next year with both rollout of TactiFlex Duo in the US, continued acceleration of Volt in the US, launching our next generation LAA device also. I see that momentum continuing into next year.

Speaker #4: And outperforming the market. And I expect that momentum that we're building this year to carry through to next year. And I think we'll get an additional boost into this EP portfolio with our new LEA device.

Speaker #4: I think feedback there has been extremely positive. And we filed with the FDA. I think here I probably feel a little bit more comfortable saying I can see a potential to be able to get this approved by year-end.

Speaker #4: And then with that, we'll have strong momentum going into next year with both rollout of Pactiflex Duo in the US, continued acceleration of Volt in the US, launching our next generation LEA device also.

Speaker #4: So I see that momentum continuing into next year.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks so much.

Matt Taylor: Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker #4: Yep.

Robert Ford: Yeah.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Travis Steed from B of A Securities. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Travis Steed from BofA Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: Hey, Robert. Thanks for taking the question. I guess as we move into the second half of this year, investors are going to start looking more into next year.

Travis Steed: Hey, Robert. Thanks for taking the question. I guess as we move into the H2 of this year, investors are going to start looking more into next year. Just curious how you think about the Abbott portfolio in the next year. If this is kind of a year that sets up for better growth. You've got easier nutrition comps, expanding coverage in Libre. You talked about EP accelerating in the next year, Amulet 360 launching at the beginning of the year. Just curious at a high level how you kind of think about the Abbott portfolio in 2027 and growth.

Speaker #6: Just curious how you think about the Abbott portfolio in the next year. If this is kind of a year that sets up for better growth, you've got easier nutrition comps, expanding coverage in Libre.

Speaker #6: You talked about EP accelerating in the next year. Amulet 360 launching at the beginning of the year. Just curious at a high level how you kind of think about the Abbott portfolio in 2027 and growth.

Speaker #4: Sure. I mean, it's a little early to give exact guidance in 2027. But I listen, we have a target always of targeting high single-digit growth on the top, double digit on the bottom.

Robert Ford: Sure. I mean, it's a little early to give exact guidance in 2027. Listen, we have a target always of targeting high single-digit growth on the top, double-digit on the bottom. I previously referenced 7% as a very kind of sustainable growth rate. I believe 7% is still the right target, despite there being a much larger base today versus where we were several years ago. I looked at this, there's only five healthcare companies with sales over $30 billion that are growing at least 7%. I think we have a differentiated portfolio here, a very resilient portfolio. I think, as I said, the strategy here of what we've been doing over the last couple quarters to get us back into that 7% top-line growth rate. I think it's really driven, Travis, by looking at the portfolio and then the execution.

Speaker #4: I previously referenced 7% as a very sustainable growth rate. I believe 7% is still the right target, despite there being a much larger base today compared to where we were several years ago.

Speaker #4: It's probably only me—I think I looked at this. There are only about five healthcare companies with sales over $30 billion that are growing at least 7%.

Speaker #4: So, I think we have a differentiated portfolio here—a very resilient portfolio. And I think, as I said, the strategy here, and what we've been doing over the last couple of quarters, is to get us back to that 7% top-line growth rate.

Speaker #4: And I think it's really driven, Travis, by looking at the portfolio and then the execution. If I look at the four segments—again, I'm not providing 2027 guidance—but when I look at each one of them and their ranges, Nutrition has been a 2% to 4% grower.

Robert Ford: If I look at the four segments, again, I'm not providing 2027 guidance, but when I look at each one of them and their ranges, nutrition has been a 2% to 4% grower. I think that's probably, as we think about it going forward, that's probably the right range to be thinking about. Our diagnostics portfolio with the addition of Exact, the VBP impact in China subsided a little bit, is now a 7% to 8% kind of range that we think about. Our EPD business has reliably done this for 5 years, 7% to 9%. MedTech, we view as kind of an 8% to 10% grower. The low end of that range is around 6.5%, the high end is around 8.5%. I think 7% is a pretty sustainable kind of growth rate going forward. That's what we target, high single-digit, double-digit EPS growth.

Speaker #4: And I think that's probably, as we think about it going forward, that's probably the right range to be thinking about. Our diagnostics portfolio, with the addition of Exact, and the VBP impact in China subsiding a little bit, is now in the 7% to 8% kind of range that we think about.

Speaker #4: Our EPD business has reliably done this for like five years—like 7% to 9%. And MedTech we view as kind of an 8% to 10% grower.

Speaker #4: So the low end of that range is around six and a half. The high end is around eight and a half. So I think seven is a pretty sustainable kind of growth rate going forward.

Speaker #4: So that's what we target—high single-digit to double-digit EPS growth. And I think we're well positioned. Executing what we're executing in the second half and the portfolio we have, I think supports the sustainability of that 7 percent.

Robert Ford: I think we're well-positioned, executing what we're executing in the H2 and the portfolio we have. I think the sustainability of that 7%. Obviously all the pipeline. We've got programs that we're going to start in Q4, at least from a trial perspective, that are going to start to deliver contributions in 2029 and 2030. Yeah, we're thinking about 2027 for sure, but we're also thinking 2028, 2029, and 2030, and what are the things that we need to be able to kind of sustain that top-line growth rate. That's great. Thanks a lot. Yeah.

Speaker #4: And then, obviously, all the pipeline. I mean, we've got programs that we're going to start in Q4, at least from a trial perspective, that are going to start to deliver contributions in '29 and '30.

Speaker #4: So yeah, we're thinking about '27 for sure, but we're also thinking '28, '29, and 2030. And one of the things that we need is for you to be able to kind of sustain that top-line growth rate, so.

Travis Steed: That's great. Thanks a lot.

Speaker #6: That's great. Thanks a lot.

Speaker #4: Yep.

Robert Ford: Yeah.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Josh Jennings from TD Cowan. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Josh Jennings from TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the question. I wanted to just ask about the Structural Heart unit. I mean, I think your team's been pretty clear that it may take some time for the U.S. franchise to regain its foundation.

Josh Jennings: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for the question. I wanted to just ask on the structural heart unit. I think your team's been pretty clear that it may take some time for the US franchise to regain its foundation. Any help just thinking through some of the strategic initiatives, either on the commercial infrastructure side, pricing in front of some of the innovation that you've talked about, Robert, on with the balloon-expandable TAVR and the mitral replacement valve that's in development. Just help us think through when can the structural heart franchise start to see improved growth in trends? Is that 2027? To your answer to one of your last questions on the 2027 outlook, and then maybe soft comps for 2027. Can structural heart get back in the groove next year? Thanks.

Speaker #5: But any help just thinking through some of the strategic initiatives, either on the commercial infrastructure side, pricing, in front of some of the innovation that you've talked about, Robert, with the balloon-expandable TAVR and the mitral replacement valve that's in development.

Speaker #5: Just help us think through when can the structural heart franchise start to see improved growthing trends? Is that 2027 and to your answer to one of your last questions on the 2027 outlook?

Speaker #5: I mean, maybe soft comps for '27 can structural heart get back in the groove next year. Thanks.

Robert Ford: Yeah. Listen, I expect structural heart by the end of this year to be in that kind of mid to high single digit growth rate back to where we were before. I think that I've been pretty clear about where we're falling short. It's not a price issue. It's not a product issue. It's really kind of how we think about competing in the mitral space, specifically in the US, seeing competitive intensity increase there here in the US, and I mentioned that during our last earnings call. I said it was going to take us a couple quarters. Q2 is the first one. I think by the end of the year, I think you'll start to see that start to change. We've made changes. We made personnel changes. We've also looked at how we're approaching the market. It's not a pricing thing.

Speaker #4: Listen, I expect Structural Heart by the end of this year to be in that kind of mid- to high-single-digit growth rate, back to where we were before.

Speaker #4: I think that I've been pretty clear about where we're falling short. It's not a price issue. It's not a product issue. It's really kind of how we think about competing in the mitral space, specifically in the U.S.

Speaker #4: We've seen competitive intensity increase here in the US. I mentioned that during our last earnings call. I said it was going to take us a couple of quarters.

Speaker #4: Q2 is the first one. But I think by the end of the year, I think you'll start to see that start to change. We've made changes.

Speaker #4: We made personnel changes. We've also looked at how we're approaching the market. It's not a pricing thing. It's just more about how we think about we have one of the most comprehensive and broadest portfolios in structural heart.

Robert Ford: We have one of the most comprehensive and broadest portfolios in structural heart, and I think that our team is kind of trying to figure out a better way of how to position that full portfolio. We're showing good growth and customers are showing good growth in TAVR here in the US, but we've got to do a better job in mitral, and the team knows that. They're motivated. I've met with them, and they're determined to respond to the challenge. US has got some work to do. We've had a lot of work this quarter. I expect there'd be a lot of work in Q3, and I think you'll start to see that change in Q4. I will put a plug in for the international team.

Speaker #4: And I think that our team is kind of trying to figure out a better way of how to position that full portfolio. We're showing good growth in tricuspid.

Speaker #4: We're showing good growth in tower here in the US. But we've got to do a better job in mitral. And the team knows that.

Speaker #4: They're motivated. I've met with them, and they're determined to respond to the challenge. So the U.S. has got some work to do. We've had a lot of work this quarter.

Speaker #4: I expect it to be a lot of work in Q3, and I think you'll start to see that change in Q4.

Speaker #4: I will put in a plug for the international team. I mean, the international team has been able to grow double digits in the first half.

Robert Ford: I think the international team has been able to grow double digits in H1. TAVR was up 30% in H1. MitraClip and TriClip, and our structural interventions portfolio, all of that is growing really strong. That international team has done a really good job, and there are things that the US organization can learn from some of the strategies that's been developed there. Work to be done there, but I still think that this is probably one of our key growth drivers. If you think about the pipeline that we're assembling, you've got guideline changes. You've got product launches. We just launched TriClip in Japan. Label expansions, pipeline, I think Cephea going into trial. I continue to just only hear incredibly positive things about this mitral valve replacement.

Speaker #4: TAVR was up 30% in the first half. MitraClip and TriClip, and our Structural Interventions portfolio—I mean, all of that is growing really strong.

Speaker #4: So that international team has been doing a really good job. And there are things that the U.S. organization can learn from some of the strategies that have been developed there.

Speaker #4: So, work to be done there. But I still think that this is probably one of our key growth drivers, if you think about the pipeline that we're assembling.

Speaker #4: You've got a lot of—you've got guideline changes. You've got product launches. We just launched TriClip in Japan. Label expansions, pipeline. I think CEFIA going into trial.

Speaker #4: I continue to just only hear incredibly positive things about this mitral valve replacement. I think we have the potential to live up to the promise that we thought maybe a decade ago, in 2015, when everybody was making investments in mitral, believing that it could be just as big as TAVR.

Robert Ford: I think we have the potential to live up to the promise that we thought maybe a decade ago in 2015 when everybody was making investments in mitral, believing that it could be just as big as TAVR. I actually think now with this product, we have the potential to actually make that a reality. We've got a lot of momentum here. I think in the short term, we're dealing with some improved commercial execution that we've got to do, and I've got trust and confidence in the team that they know what they've got to do, and they'll deliver.

Speaker #4: I actually think now with this product, we have the potential to actually make that a reality. So we've got a lot of momentum here.

Speaker #4: And I think in the short term, we're dealing with some improved commercial execution that we've got to do. And I've got trust and confidence in the team that they know what they've got to do, and they'll deliver. So.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Joanne Wuensch from Citi. Your line is open.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And our next question will come from Joanne Wunsch from Citi. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Good morning, and thank you so much for taking the question. The broad knock guidance commentary on nutrition for 2% to 4% is a nice acceleration off of the last couple of quarters.

Joanne Wuensch: Good morning, and thank you so much for taking the question. The broad, not guidance commentary on nutrition for 2% to 4% is a nice acceleration off of the last couple of quarters. Sounds like you're getting some good momentum out of the WIC contracts. Is there an update that you can give us, sort of a state of the union of what you're seeing in terms of launching some new products as well as market positioning? Thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. I think I mentioned in our Q1 call that we were tracking according to plan. That was back in April. I'm reiterating that same message here. We remain very much on track.

Speaker #7: Sounds like you're getting some good momentum out of the WIC contracts. Is there an update that you can give us—sort of a state of the union—of what you're seeing in terms of launching some new products, as well as market positioning?

Speaker #7: Thank you so much.

Speaker #4: Yeah, absolutely. I think I mentioned in our first, in our Q1 call, that we were tracking according to plan. That was back in April.

Speaker #4: I'm reiterating that same message here. We remain very much on track. There are a lot of proof points here. Joanne, in terms of being able to feel confident about not only the acceleration in the second half, but establishing this kind of 2% to 4% range here for this business.

Robert Ford: There's a lot of proof points here, Joanne, in terms of being able to feel confident about not only the acceleration in H2, but establishing this kind of 2% to 4% range here for this business. It's about $125 million of sequential growth, as I said in my preferred comments. What I liked about it, as we were looking at it every single month, it was getting better. A couple highlights, I guess, on the pediatric side. As I said, the international portion is now back to positive growth. Our sales in international pediatrics has been the highest in the last 2 years. I think the teams are doing a good job there. International pediatric, we referenced the WIC contracts. Those are now fully baked in, and we're back to market leadership after 6 months of very hard work out in the field.

Speaker #4: It's about 125 million dollars of sequential growth, as I said, in preferred comments. And what I liked about it as we're looking at it every single month, it was getting better.

Speaker #4: So, a couple of highlights, I guess, on the pediatric side. As I said, the international portion is now back to positive growth. Actually, our sales in international pediatrics have been the highest they've been in the last two years.

Speaker #4: So, I think the team's doing a good job there. International pediatric, we referenced the contract—the WIC contracts—those are now fully baked in.

Speaker #4: And we're back to market leadership after six months of very hard work out in the field. So the team has done a good job there.

Robert Ford: The team's done a good job there. On the adult side, which is probably where the pricing strategy had more of an impact, or at least we expected it to have more of an impact, I think the volumes are responding very positively to that. Retail consumption of Ensure in the US is up double digits versus our exit in 2025. Now, of course, that's a pretty low point here, but if you look at it from a year-over-year perspective, like I said, it's one of the highest growth rates we've had in over a year and a half from a consumption perspective. You've got the volume consumption now chewing through that price that we took in Q4. I expect both these businesses now, adult and pediatric, to go back to a positive territory as we've worked our way through all the inventory and the new pricing.

Speaker #4: On the adult side, which is probably where the pricing strategy had more of an impact—or at least we expected it to have more of an impact—I think the volumes are responding very positively to that.

Speaker #4: Retail consumption of Ensure in the US is up double digits versus our exit in 2025. Now, of course, that's a pretty low point here.

Speaker #4: But if you look at it from a year-over-year perspective, like I said, it's one of the highest growth rates we've had in over a year and a half from a consumption perspective.

Speaker #4: So you've got the volume consumption now chewing through that price that we had to that we took in Q4. And I expect both these businesses now, adult and pediatric, to go back to a positive territory as we've worked our way through all the inventory and the new pricing.

Speaker #4: So I think Q3 will probably be the most, I'd say, cleanest quarter. Obviously, Q4, we have a pretty big comp issue, right? Which is why if you look at the exit rate, we're going to be in that 2.5% to 3% range if you take it on a two-year CAGR.

Robert Ford: I think Q3 will probably be the most, I'd say, cleanest quarter. Obviously, Q4, you have a pretty big comp issue, right? Which is why if you look at the exit rate, we're going to be in that 2.5%, 3%, if you take it on a 2-year kegger. That's why I'm anchoring this kind of 2% to 4% trajectory. The new product launches are doing very well. There's obviously a lot of focus on protein, especially with GLP users. We've been trying to offer something that's a little different, not just the protein, but also protein with less sugar. Because a lot of the products that are out there taste very well, but they taste very well because there's a lot of sugar. Some of the companies that are marketing these products they're notorious for knowing how to work with sugar.

Speaker #4: So that's why I'm anchoring this kind of 2 to 4 percent trajectory. The new product launches are doing very well. There's obviously a lot of focus on protein.

Speaker #4: Especially with GLP users, and we've been trying to offer something that's a little different. Not just the protein, but also protein with less sugar.

Speaker #4: Because a lot of the products that are out there, they taste very well, but they taste very well because there's a lot of sugar.

Speaker #4: And yeah, some of the companies that are marketing these products—they're notorious for knowing how to work with sugar. So, I would say we've got good momentum from the marketing messaging around high protein and low sugar.

Robert Ford: I would say we've got good momentum from the marketing messaging around high protein and low sugar. We've got a bunch of upcoming product launches. I think probably the ones I'm more excited about is we've got a collagen protein shake that's coming out. We'll be offering a new adult product that will have not only protein and HMB, but we're going to be adding creatine to it. That is going to be a very strong focus. We'll be also launching a new infant formula in H2 using whole milk. I think that the execution here, if it's state of the union here, Joanne, is listen, I think the team has responded well to the challenge. There are obviously things that we can continue to do better. We know what they are. We're going to continue to focus on them.

Speaker #4: And then we've got a bunch of upcoming product launches. I think probably the ones I'm more excited about is we've got a collagen protein shake that's coming out.

Speaker #4: We'll be offering a new adult product that will have not only protein and HMB, but we're going to be adding creatine—sorry, creatine—to it.

Speaker #4: So, that is going to be a very strong focus. And then we'll also be launching a new infant formula in the second half, using whole milk.

Speaker #4: So, I think that the execution here—if it's State of the Union here, Joanne—is, listen, I think the team has responded well to the challenge.

Speaker #4: There are obviously things that we can continue to do better. We know what they are, and we're going to continue to focus on them. But I think, right now, the trajectory and the plan that we had—we're a little bit ahead of that.

Robert Ford: I think right now, the trajectory and the plan that we had, we're a little bit ahead of that. I'm not going to change that guidance right now based on two quarters. You could see if we can continue to maintain this momentum and continue to surpass what our expectations were, there might be an opportunity here to kind of rethink about the guidance of this business. Right now, I think we're in the right spot, and this is just about execution and developing proof points that we're moving forward, and that the strategies that we put in place are reigniting the growth in this business.

Speaker #4: I'm not going to change that guidance right now. Based on two quarters, but you could see if we can continue to maintain this momentum and continue to surpass what our expectations were, there might be an opportunity here to kind of rethink about the guidance of this business.

Speaker #4: But right now, I think we're in the right spot. This is just about execution and developing proof points that we're moving forward and that the strategies we put in place are reigniting the growth in this business.

Speaker #2: Wonderful. Thank you.

Joanne Wuensch: Wonderful. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Christelle, we'll take one more question, please.

Michael Comilla: Crystal, we'll take one more question, please.

Mike Comilla: Crystal, we'll take one more question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And our last question will come from Marie Thybolt from BTIG. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our last question will come from Marie Thibault from BTIG. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Hi, good morning. Thanks so much for taking my question. I wanted to circle back here on Amulet and the left atrial appendage closure market.

Marie Thibault: Hi. Good morning. Thanks so much for taking my question. I wanted to circle back here on Amulet and the left atrial appendage closure market. You certainly got a really exciting product catalyst ahead with Amulet 360. I just want to understand what Abbott is seeing out there in the market today. Certainly, your competitor has talked about some challenges they're facing. I just want to understand sort of the appetite for left atrial appendage closure today. Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker #5: You certainly have a really exciting product catalyst ahead with Amulet 360. But I just want to understand what Abbott is seeing out there in the market today.

Speaker #5: Certainly, your competitors talked about some challenges they're facing. So, I just want to understand sort of the appetite for left atrial appendage closure today.

Speaker #5: Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker #4: Sure, Marie. I mean, this is ultimately a very attractive market, which is why we've continued to make the investments. It's a $2 billion market.

Robert Ford: Sure, Marie. This is ultimately a very attractive market, which is why we continue to make the investments. It's a $2 billion market. The competitor has a 90% market share. To be honest with you, given the market share differences there, I will defer to our competitor for more specific market growth projections here, Marie. My focus and the team's focus here is on market share capture. I think this represents a big opportunity for us. Data and feedback from Amulet 360 has been fantastic, actually. You now have what was known as a superior product to be able to actually seal the LAA. Now with 360, you have a much more seamless implant experience for the physician. I think that this is going to bode well for our EP business. As you know, the LAA is increasingly becoming an EP procedure.

Speaker #4: The competitor has a 90% market share. So, to be honest with you, given the market share differences there, I will defer to our competitor for more specific market growth projections here, Marie.

Speaker #4: My focus, and the team's focus here, is on market share capture. I think this represents a big opportunity for us. Data and feedback from Amulet 360 has been fantastic, actually.

Speaker #4: You now have what is known as a superior product to be able to actually seal the LAA. Now, with 360, you have a much more seamless implant experience for the physician.

Speaker #4: So I think that this is going to bode well for our AP business, as you know. The LAA is increasingly becoming an EP procedure.

Speaker #4: And if you think about where a lot of the growth is coming from, it's coming from the concomitant segment. And I think we're well positioned there to be able to drive market share.

Robert Ford: If you think about where a lot of the growth is coming from, it's coming from the concomitant segment. I think we're well-positioned there to be able to drive market share. I think it's not by accident that we moved this portfolio from structural heart into our EP business because we believe that the winning company in this space not only will have great PFA catheters, great mapping systems, great field mappers, but you also got to have a great LAA device here to be able to do that. I think we're way ahead from our competitors from that perspective. Listen, I think this is an attractive market. About its future growth projections, we could probably lay out the opportunities that exist there, but my more immediate opportunity for Abbott is to be able to gain market share.

Speaker #4: I think by accident that we moved this portfolio from structural heart into our AP business because we believe that the winning company in this space, not only have great PFA catheters, great mapping systems, great field mappers, but you also got to have a great LAA device here to be able to do that.

Speaker #4: And I think we're way ahead of our competitors from that perspective. So, listen, I think this is an attractive market. As for its future growth projections, I mean, we could probably lay out the opportunities that exist there.

Speaker #4: But my more immediate opportunity for Abbott is to be able to kind of gain market share. We're going to have an opportunity to essentially relaunch a product.

Robert Ford: We're going to have an opportunity to essentially relaunch a product. You don't get a lot of opportunities like that. We'll leverage some of the lessons we've learned, and I'm pretty confident here that we'll be able to have this be a nice growth driver for us in 2027 and beyond. I actually think that this idea of concomitant procedures with LAA aren't just restricted to the electrophysiology segment. I think there's going to be opportunities in the interventional cardiology side also to think about. The way we think about it is, yeah, there's an opportunity over here where we're going to focus on market share, but I think there's also market development work to happen both in the EP side, but also in the interventional side too. A lot of work going on there, but I'd say very excited about bringing this next generation product to market.

Speaker #4: You don't get a lot of opportunities like that. We'll leverage some of the lessons we've learned, and I'm pretty confident here that we'll be able to have this be a nice growth driver for us in 2027 and beyond.

Speaker #4: I actually think that this idea of concomitant procedures with LAA isn't just restricted to the electrophysiology segment. I think there's going to be opportunities on the interventional cardiology side also to think about.

Speaker #4: So the way we think about it is, yeah, there's an opportunity over here. We're going to focus on market share, but I think there's also market development to happen, both on the EP side and on the interventional side, too.

Speaker #4: So a lot of work going on there. But I'd say very excited about bringing this next generation product to market, so. And feel good about the market and the product we have and the team that we got, so.

Robert Ford: Feel good about the market and the product we have and the team that we got. With that, I'll just close on the comments here since we're up on time. I'd say good progress on addressing what are these, I'd say, short-term and kind of temporary challenges that we've highlighted in January. Very good progress there. I think we're entering the H2 with a lot of momentum, several of our key growth drivers. We know what they are, we know what we need to do, and that's what we're focusing on every single week and month on execution to the targets that we set for ourselves. My confidence remains high in that H2 acceleration. The efforts and focus that we've put on gross margin and our gross margin expansion strategy, both from a mix and cost mitigation, they're having an impact.

Speaker #4: So with that, I'll just close on the comments here since we're up on time. I'd say good progress on addressing what are these, I'd say, short-term and kind of temporary challenges that we've highlighted in January.

Speaker #4: So very good progress there. I think we're entering the second half with a lot of momentum, several of our key growth drivers. We know what they are.

Speaker #4: We know what we need to do. And that's what we're focusing on. Every single week and month on execution to the targets that we've set for ourselves.

Speaker #4: So my confidence remains high in that second half acceleration. The efforts and focus that we've put on gross margin and our gross margin expansion strategy, both from a mix and cost mitigation, they're having an impact.

Speaker #4: And that’s allowed us to raise our full-year EPS guidance. And we’ve raised it by more than the beat that we had in the second half, because we believe that the sustainability of this expansion is there.

Robert Ford: That's allowed us to raise our full-year EPS guidance, and we've raised it more by the beat that we had in the H2 because we believe that the sustainability of this expansion is there. Our cash generation and cash flow management are likely going to put us ahead of our January forecast for the year, and that's going to just allow greater flexibility here for capital return. I'm extremely excited about the pipeline that we built, both for the products that we're launching, the future product launches that we're going to have over the next 24 months. I think it gives us confidence that we've got a lot of momentum that we're building is sustainable as we move into 2027 and 2028. With that, I thank you for joining us today.

Speaker #4: Our cash generation and cash flow management, likely going to put us ahead of our January forecast for the year. And that's going to just allow greater flexibility here for capital return.

Speaker #4: And I'm extremely excited about the pipeline that we built both for the products that we're launching and the future product launches that we're going to have over the next 24 months.

Speaker #4: I think it gives us confidence that we've got a lot of momentum that we're building. Is sustainable as we move into 2027 and 2028.

Speaker #4: So with that, I thank you for joining us today. Thank you all for your questions.

Michael Comilla: Thank you all for your questions. This now concludes Abbott's conference call. A webcast replay of this call will be available after 11:00 a.m. Central Time today on our website, abbott.com. Thank you for joining us today.

Mike Comilla: Thank you all for your questions. This now concludes Abbott's conference call. A webcast replay of this call will be available after 11:00 a.m. Central Time today on our website, abbott.com. Thank you for joining us today.

Speaker #6: This now concludes Abbott's conference call. A webcast replay of this call will be available after 11:00 AM Central Time today on our website abbott.com.

Speaker #6: Thank you for joining us today.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thanks for your participation. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.

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