Q2 2026 Camden National Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Q2 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Marina Toft, and I will be your operator for today's call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode during today's presentation. Following the presentations, we will conduct a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now turn the call over to Renée Smyth, Executive Vice President, Chief Experience and Marketing Officer.
Operator: Q2 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Marina Toft, and I will be your operator for today's call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode during today's presentation. Following the presentations, we will conduct a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now turn the call over to Renée Smyth, Executive Vice President, Chief Experience and Marketing Officer.
Speaker #1: Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press *1 to raise your hand.
Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now turn the call over to Rene Smyth, Executive Vice President, Chief Experience and Marketing Officer.
Speaker #2: Welcome to Camden National Corp Q2 2026 earnings conference call. With me today are Simon Griffiths, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Archer, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Renée Smyth: Welcome to Camden National Corporation's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Simon Griffiths, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Archer, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, please note that today's remarks include forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from what we discuss on the call. You can find cautionary language about these statements in our Q2 2026 earnings release issued this morning and in our other SEC filings. All of these materials and public filings are available on our investor relations website at camdennational.bank. Camden National Corporation trades on NASDAQ under the symbol CAC. We will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures during the call. These measures provide additional insight into our performance, and reconciliations to GAAP are included in today's earnings release. With that, I will turn it over the call to Simon.
Renée Smyth: Welcome to Camden National Corporation's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Simon Griffiths, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Archer, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, please note that today's remarks include forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from what we discuss on the call. You can find cautionary language about these statements in our Q2 2026 earnings release issued this morning and in our other SEC filings. All of these materials and public filings are available on our investor relations website at camdennational.bank. Camden National Corporation trades on NASDAQ under the symbol CAC. We will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures during the call. These measures provide additional insight into our performance, and reconciliations to GAAP are included in today's earnings release. With that, I will turn it over the call to Simon.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, please note that today's remarks include forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from what we discuss on the call. You can find cautionary language about these statements in our second quarter 2026 earnings release issued this morning and in our other SEC filings.
Speaker #2: All of these materials and public filings are available on our Investor Relations website at camdennational.bank. Camden National Corp trades on NASDAQ under the symbol CAC.
Speaker #2: We'll also refer to non-GAAP financial measures during the call. These measures provide additional insight into our performance, and reconciliations to GAAP are included in today's earnings release.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call over to Simon.
Speaker #3: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, Rene. Earlier this morning, we reported record quarterly net income of $23 million and record diluted earnings per share of $1.35 for the second quarter.
Simon Griffiths: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, Renée. Early this morning, we reported record quarterly net income of $23 million and record diluted earnings per share of $1.35 for the Q2. Both net income and diluted EPS increased 5% from the Q1, underscoring the earnings power we are building across the franchise. Our performance was broad-based. We delivered loan growth, expanded our committed loan pipeline, improved net interest margin, and generated strong fee income growth. Through the first 6 months of the year, we produced record net income of $44.9 million and diluted EPS of $2.64, reflecting focused execution across our core businesses. These results demonstrate that our strategy is working. We are growing the franchise with purpose and investing in capabilities that strengthen our competitive position and improve how we serve our customers and communities. Our performance is also reflected in national recognition and customer trust.
Simon Griffiths: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, Renée. Early this morning, we reported record quarterly net income of $23 million and record diluted earnings per share of $1.35 for the Q2. Both net income and diluted EPS increased 5% from the Q1, underscoring the earnings power we are building across the franchise. Our performance was broad-based. We delivered loan growth, expanded our committed loan pipeline, improved net interest margin, and generated strong fee income growth. Through the first 6 months of the year, we produced record net income of $44.9 million and diluted EPS of $2.64, reflecting focused execution across our core businesses. These results demonstrate that our strategy is working. We are growing the franchise with purpose and investing in capabilities that strengthen our competitive position and improve how we serve our customers and communities. Our performance is also reflected in national recognition and customer trust.
Speaker #3: Both net income and diluted EPS increased 5% from the first quarter, underscoring the earnings power we are building across the franchise. Our performance was broad-based.
Speaker #3: We delivered loan growth, expanded our committed loan pipeline, improved net interest margin, and generated strong fee income growth. Through the first six months of the year, we produced record net income of $44.9 million and diluted EPS of $2.64, reflecting focused execution across our core businesses.
Speaker #3: These results demonstrate that our strategy is working. We are growing the franchise with purpose and investing in capabilities that strengthen our competitive position and improve how we serve our customers and communities.
Speaker #3: Our performance is also reflected in national recognition and customer trust. So far this year, Camden National Bank was named to TIME Magazine's list of America's Best Companies and recognized by Forbes as one of America's Best Banks.
Simon Griffiths: So far this year, Camden National Bank was named to Time magazine's list of America's Best Companies and recognized by Forbes as one of America's Best Banks. These achievements reflect our financial discipline, customer focus, continued momentum, and long-term stability. We enter the H2 with a resilient balance sheet. Total assets were $7 billion at quarter-end. Credit quality metrics remained strong. Capital levels remained well above regulatory requirements, and tangible book value per share grew 7% since year-end. On the lending side, loans increased 1% during the quarter, or 3% on an annualized basis, led by growth in home equity and commercial loans. HELOC balances increased 23% year-over-year, supported by added depth among our HELOC lenders, as well as by significant technology and process improvements, which have reduced average funding time to 14 days. Forward-looking indicators are also encouraging.
Simon Griffiths: So far this year, Camden National Bank was named to Time magazine's list of America's Best Companies and recognized by Forbes as one of America's Best Banks. These achievements reflect our financial discipline, customer focus, continued momentum, and long-term stability. We enter the H2 with a resilient balance sheet. Total assets were $7 billion at quarter-end. Credit quality metrics remained strong. Capital levels remained well above regulatory requirements, and tangible book value per share grew 7% since year-end. On the lending side, loans increased 1% during the quarter, or 3% on an annualized basis, led by growth in home equity and commercial loans. HELOC balances increased 23% year-over-year, supported by added depth among our HELOC lenders, as well as by significant technology and process improvements, which have reduced average funding time to 14 days. Forward-looking indicators are also encouraging.
Speaker #3: These achievements reflect our financial discipline, customer focus, continued momentum, and long-term stability. We enter the second half of the year with a resilient balance sheet.
Speaker #3: Total assets were $7 billion at quarter-end. Credit quality metrics remained strong, capital levels remained well above regulatory requirements, and tangible book value per share grew 7% since year-end.
Speaker #3: On the lending side, loans increased 1% during the quarter, or 3% on an annualized basis, led by growth in home equity and commercial loans.
Speaker #3: HELOC balances increased 23% year-over-year, supported by added depth among our HELOC lenders, as well as by significant technology and process improvements, which have reduced average funding time to 14 days.
Speaker #3: Forward-looking indicators are also encouraging. Our committed loan pipeline increased 45% from the prior quarter to $185.7 million, reflecting healthy customer demand, stronger banker productivity, and the benefit of recent additions to our commercial banking team.
Simon Griffiths: Our committed loan pipeline increased 45% from the prior quarter to $185.7 million, reflecting healthy customer demand, stronger banker productivity, and the benefit of recent additions to our Commercial Banking team. Since year-end, we have added four experienced commercial bankers to our team, and we remain optimistic that we will be able to continue to selectively add proven talent. We remain encouraged by the pipeline while expecting Q3 loan growth to remain measured. We recently announced the appointment of Katherine Brunelle as Chief Credit Officer. Kate joins Camden National's leadership team with more than two decades of banking experience, including senior credit leadership roles at TD Bank. Renée Smyth, with 14 years at Camden National and prior experience serving as both Chief Credit Officer and Director of Commercial Banking, will return to leading Commercial Banking.
Simon Griffiths: Our committed loan pipeline increased 45% from the prior quarter to $185.7 million, reflecting healthy customer demand, stronger banker productivity, and the benefit of recent additions to our Commercial Banking team. Since year-end, we have added four experienced commercial bankers to our team, and we remain optimistic that we will be able to continue to selectively add proven talent. We remain encouraged by the pipeline while expecting Q3 loan growth to remain measured. We recently announced the appointment of Katherine Brunelle as Chief Credit Officer. Kate joins Camden National's leadership team with more than two decades of banking experience, including senior credit leadership roles at TD Bank. Renée Smyth, with 14 years at Camden National and prior experience serving as both Chief Credit Officer and Director of Commercial Banking, will return to leading Commercial Banking.
Speaker #3: Since year-end, we have added four experienced commercial bankers to our team, and we remain optimistic that we will be able to continue to selectively add proven talent.
Speaker #3: We remain encouraged by the pipeline, while expecting Q3 loan growth to remain measured. We recently announced the appointment of Kate Brunell as Chief Credit Officer.
Speaker #3: Kate joins Camden National's leadership team with more than two decades of banking experience, including senior credit leadership roles at TD Bank. Ryan Smith, with 14 years at Camden National and prior experience serving as both Chief Credit Officer and Director of Commercial Banking, will return to leading commercial banking.
Speaker #3: And Barbara Ratz will lead and expand our Treasury Management and Governance Banking Services, drawing on significant experience in corporate treasury. That added capacity is helping us strengthen relationships with small and mid-market businesses and expand our role as a primary banking partner for lending and treasury management solutions.
Simon Griffiths: Barbara Raths will lead and expand our treasury management and government banking services, drawing on significant experience in corporate treasury. That added capacity is helping us strengthen relationships with small and mid-market businesses and expand our role as a primary banking partner for lending and treasury management solutions. On deposits, we continue to optimize our funding mix by reducing broker deposits and certificate of deposits while maintaining stable core customer deposits. Total deposits were $5.6 billion at quarter-end, and our loan-to-deposit ratio was 90%. Our focus remains on durable relationship deposits supported by service, convenience, and thoughtful pricing rather than rate-driven volume. We are expanding financial advisory services to support customers through more stages of their financial lives and diversify revenue.
Simon Griffiths: Barbara Raths will lead and expand our treasury management and government banking services, drawing on significant experience in corporate treasury. That added capacity is helping us strengthen relationships with small and mid-market businesses and expand our role as a primary banking partner for lending and treasury management solutions. On deposits, we continue to optimize our funding mix by reducing broker deposits and certificate of deposits while maintaining stable core customer deposits. Total deposits were $5.6 billion at quarter-end, and our loan-to-deposit ratio was 90%. Our focus remains on durable relationship deposits supported by service, convenience, and thoughtful pricing rather than rate-driven volume. We are expanding financial advisory services to support customers through more stages of their financial lives and diversify revenue.
Speaker #3: On deposits, we continue to optimize our funding mix by reducing brokered deposits and certificate of deposit balances, while maintaining stable core customer deposits. Total deposits were $5.6 billion at quarter-end, and our loan-to-deposit ratio was 90%.
Speaker #3: Our focus remains on durable relationship deposits supported by service, convenience, and thoughtful pricing, rather than rate-driven volume. We are expanding financial advisory services to support customers through more stages of their financial lives and diversify revenue.
Speaker #3: Assets under administration across our wealth and brokerage businesses total $2.6 billion at quarter-end, up 13% from the prior year, reinforcing the opportunity to broaden advisory relationships and build a more balanced earnings profile over time.
Simon Griffiths: Assets under administration across our wealth and brokerage businesses totaled $2.6 billion at quarter-end, up 13% from the prior year, reinforcing the opportunity to broaden advisory relationships and build a more balanced earnings profile over time. Our AI-enabled transformation is gaining momentum with multiple use cases now in production and digital enhancements tied to measurable business outcomes. These tools are helping us build a more efficient, responsive organization. From our recently refreshed website to new digital products, we are making banking easier for customers while creating more capacity for higher value interactions. In short, we are executing well and making measurable progress across the company. Our teams are focused on sustaining high-quality growth and creating long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and communities. With that strategic overview, I'll turn it over to Mike to walk through the financial results in more detail.
Simon Griffiths: Assets under administration across our wealth and brokerage businesses totaled $2.6 billion at quarter-end, up 13% from the prior year, reinforcing the opportunity to broaden advisory relationships and build a more balanced earnings profile over time. Our AI-enabled transformation is gaining momentum with multiple use cases now in production and digital enhancements tied to measurable business outcomes. These tools are helping us build a more efficient, responsive organization. From our recently refreshed website to new digital products, we are making banking easier for customers while creating more capacity for higher value interactions. In short, we are executing well and making measurable progress across the company. Our teams are focused on sustaining high-quality growth and creating long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and communities. With that strategic overview, I'll turn it over to Mike to walk through the financial results in more detail.
Speaker #3: Our AI-enabled transformation is gaining momentum, with multiple use cases now in production and digital enhancements tied to measurable business outcomes. These tools are helping us build a more efficient, responsive organization. From our recently refreshed website to new digital products, we are making banking easier for customers while creating more capacity for higher-value interactions.
Speaker #3: In short, we are executing well and making measurable progress across the company. Our teams are focused on sustaining high-quality growth and creating long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and communities.
Speaker #3: With that strategic overview, I'll turn it over to Mike to walk through the financial results in more detail.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Simon, and good afternoon, everyone. As noted, we reported record net income for the second quarter of $23 million, or $1.35 per diluted share.
Michael Archer: Thanks, Simon. Good afternoon, everyone. As noted, we reported record net income for Q2 of $23 million, or $1.35 per diluted share. Profitability metrics remained strong again this quarter with a return on average assets of 1.33%, return on average tangible equity of 18.47%, and a non-GAAP efficiency ratio of 53.2%. Revenues were up 5% on a linked-quarter basis. We continue to manage operating expenses closely while continuing to invest in our franchise, driving strong pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue growth during the quarter of 5%. Net interest income totaled $52.9 million, up 1% on a linked-quarter basis. Net interest margin increased by 2 basis points quarter-over-quarter to 3.26% for Q2, primarily reflecting lower funding costs.
Michael Archer: Thanks, Simon. Good afternoon, everyone. As noted, we reported record net income for Q2 of $23 million, or $1.35 per diluted share. Profitability metrics remained strong again this quarter with a return on average assets of 1.33%, return on average tangible equity of 18.47%, and a non-GAAP efficiency ratio of 53.2%. Revenues were up 5% on a linked-quarter basis. We continue to manage operating expenses closely while continuing to invest in our franchise, driving strong pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue growth during the quarter of 5%. Net interest income totaled $52.9 million, up 1% on a linked-quarter basis. Net interest margin increased by 2 basis points quarter-over-quarter to 3.26% for Q2, primarily reflecting lower funding costs.
Speaker #4: Profitability metrics remain strong again this quarter, with a return on average assets of 1.33%, return on average tangible equity of 18.47%, and a non-GAAP efficiency ratio of 53.2%.
Speaker #4: Revenues are up 5% on a late-quarter basis, and we continue to manage operating expenses closely while continuing to invest in our franchise, driving strong pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue growth during the quarter of 5%.
Speaker #4: Net interest income totaled $52.9 million, up 1% on a linked-quarter basis. Net interest margin increased by 2 basis points quarter over quarter to 3.26% for the second quarter, primarily reflecting lower funding costs.
Speaker #4: Over the same period, core net interest margin, which excludes net fair value mark accretion income, increased 5 basis points to 2.97%, aligning with the top of our guidance range provided last quarter.
Michael Archer: Over the same period, core net interest margin, which excludes net fair value mark accretion income, increased 5 basis points to 2.97%, aligning with the top of our guidance range provided last quarter. Net fair value mark accretion income was $4 million for Q2, down $335,000 from Q1. We continue to focus on improving our core net interest margin. We are currently estimating additional expansion in Q3 of approximately 5 to 10 basis points, driven by normal seasonal deposit inflows that support a more favorable funding mix and the ongoing reinvestment of lower yielding assets into current market rates. Non-interest income totaled $14.5 million, an increase of $2.5 million or 21% from Q1. The improvement was broad-based across all fee income categories as we continue to see nice momentum across our complementary business lines.
Michael Archer: Over the same period, core net interest margin, which excludes net fair value mark accretion income, increased 5 basis points to 2.97%, aligning with the top of our guidance range provided last quarter. Net fair value mark accretion income was $4 million for Q2, down $335,000 from Q1. We continue to focus on improving our core net interest margin. We are currently estimating additional expansion in Q3 of approximately 5 to 10 basis points, driven by normal seasonal deposit inflows that support a more favorable funding mix and the ongoing reinvestment of lower yielding assets into current market rates. Non-interest income totaled $14.5 million, an increase of $2.5 million or 21% from Q1. The improvement was broad-based across all fee income categories as we continue to see nice momentum across our complementary business lines.
Speaker #4: Net fair value mark accretion income was $4 million for the second quarter, down $335,000 from the first quarter. We continue to focus on improving our core net interest margin, and we are currently estimating additional expansion in the third quarter of approximately 5 to 10 basis points, driven by normal seasonal deposit inflows that support a more favorable funding mix and the ongoing reinvestment of lower-yielding assets into current market rates.
Speaker #4: Non-interest income totaled $14.5 million, an increase of $2.5 million, or 21%, from the first quarter. The improvement was broad-based across all fee income categories, as we continue to see nice momentum across our complementary business lines.
Speaker #4: Investment appreciation that was driven by market performance and debt benefits within BOLI income, totaling $491,000, contributed to our non-interest income this quarter. We are currently estimating a range for non-interest income for the third quarter of $13.5 to $14 million.
Michael Archer: Investment appreciation that was driven by mark-to-market performance and death benefits with BOLI income totaling $491,000 contributed to our non-interest income this quarter. We are currently estimating a range for non-interest income for Q3 of $13.5 to $14 million. Turning to expenses, non-interest expense totaled $37.4 million, up 5% from Q1. The increase was primarily attributable to annual salary increases, the timing of our annual director equity award grant, and the annual recognition event for top-performing sales team members. We are currently estimating a range for non-interest expense for Q3 at $37 to $38 million. On credit, our loan portfolio remains sound. Non-performing loans were 24 basis points of total loans. Past due loans were 15 basis points of total loans, and net charge-offs were four basis points of average loans on an annualized basis.
Michael Archer: Investment appreciation that was driven by mark-to-market performance and death benefits with BOLI income totaling $491,000 contributed to our non-interest income this quarter. We are currently estimating a range for non-interest income for Q3 of $13.5 to $14 million. Turning to expenses, non-interest expense totaled $37.4 million, up 5% from Q1. The increase was primarily attributable to annual salary increases, the timing of our annual director equity award grant, and the annual recognition event for top-performing sales team members. We are currently estimating a range for non-interest expense for Q3 at $37 to $38 million. On credit, our loan portfolio remains sound. Non-performing loans were 24 basis points of total loans. Past due loans were 15 basis points of total loans, and net charge-offs were four basis points of average loans on an annualized basis.
Speaker #4: Turning to expenses, non-interest expense totaled $37.4 million, up 5% from the first quarter. The increase was primarily attributable to annual salary increases and the timing of our annual director equity award for top-performing sales team members.
Speaker #4: We are currently estimating a range for non-interest expense for the third quarter at $37 million to $38 million. On credit, our loan portfolio remained sound.
Speaker #4: Non-performing loans were 24 basis points of total loans, past-due loans were 15 basis points of total loans, and net charge-offs were 4 basis points of average loans on an annualized basis.
Speaker #4: Provision expense was $710,000, up from $553,000 in the first quarter, reflecting loan growth. The allowance for credit losses on loans was 0.91% of total loans at quarter-end, and the ACL coverage ratio was 3.8 times non-performing loans.
Michael Archer: Provision expense was $710,000, up from $553,000 in Q1, reflecting loan growth. The allowance for credit losses on loans was 0.91% of total loans at quarter end, and the ACL coverage ratio was 3.8 times non-performing loans. Capital levels continue to expand nicely, driven by strong and growing earnings and balanced returns to our shareholders through H1 2026. Our regulatory capital levels remain well above regulatory requirements at quarter end. Tangible book value per share increased 3% during Q2 to $31.64 at 30 June 2026. For H1 2026, we returned 41% of our H1 net income to shareholders in the form of cash dividends and share repurchases.
Michael Archer: Provision expense was $710,000, up from $553,000 in Q1, reflecting loan growth. The allowance for credit losses on loans was 0.91% of total loans at quarter end, and the ACL coverage ratio was 3.8 times non-performing loans. Capital levels continue to expand nicely, driven by strong and growing earnings and balanced returns to our shareholders through H1 2026. Our regulatory capital levels remain well above regulatory requirements at quarter end. Tangible book value per share increased 3% during Q2 to $31.64 at 30 June 2026. For H1 2026, we returned 41% of our H1 net income to shareholders in the form of cash dividends and share repurchases.
Speaker #4: Capital levels continue to expand nicely, driven by strong and growing earnings and balanced returns to our shareholders through the first six months of 2026.
Speaker #4: Our regulatory capital levels remained well above regulatory requirements at quarter-end. Tangible book value per share increased 3% during the second quarter to $31.64 as of June 30, 2026.
Speaker #4: For the first six months of 2026, we returned 41% of our first-half net income to shareholders in the form of cash dividends and share repurchases.
Speaker #4: Year to date, we've repurchased 85,131 shares at a weighted average price of $46.55 per share under our share repurchase program. Overall, the quarter reflected solid late-quarter revenue growth, disciplined expense management, strong credit metrics, and continued capital accretion.
Michael Archer: Year to date, we've repurchased 85,131 shares at a weighted average price of $46.55 per share under our share repurchase program. Overall, the quarter reflected solid linked-quarter revenue growth, disciplined expense management, strong credit metrics, and continued capital accretion. That concludes our prepared remarks, and I'll turn it back to the operator.
Michael Archer: Year to date, we've repurchased 85,131 shares at a weighted average price of $46.55 per share under our share repurchase program. Overall, the quarter reflected solid linked-quarter revenue growth, disciplined expense management, strong credit metrics, and continued capital accretion. That concludes our prepared remarks, and I'll turn it back to the operator.
Speaker #4: That concludes our prepared remarks, and I'll turn it back to the operator.
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Speaker #1: Your first question comes from the line of Steve Moss with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Good afternoon. Maybe just.
Steve Moss: Good afternoon.
Steve Moss: Good afternoon.
Simon Griffiths: Afternoon, Steve.
Simon Griffiths: Afternoon, Steve.
Steve Moss: Hey, Simon. Maybe just starting off on the margin expansion here. Mike, you mentioned deposit inflows, but then you also mentioned lower yielding assets repricing. Just kind of curious, what are you seeing for cash flows from the loan portfolio or security portfolio over the next six months? Just to think about that repricing dynamic.
Steve Moss: Hey, Simon. Maybe just starting off on the margin expansion here. Mike, you mentioned deposit inflows, but then you also mentioned lower yielding assets repricing. Just kind of curious, what are you seeing for cash flows from the loan portfolio or security portfolio over the next six months? Just to think about that repricing dynamic.
Speaker #6: Hey Simon, maybe just starting off on the margin expansion here. Mike, you mentioned deposit inflows, but then you also mentioned lower-yielding assets repricing. Just kind of curious, what are you seeing for cash flows from the loan portfolio and securities portfolio over the next six months?
Speaker #6: And just to think about that repricing dynamic.
Speaker #4: Yeah, that's a great question, Steve. On the investment side, we internally model it right around $35 million a quarter, I believe—right in that neighborhood.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah, it's a great question, Steve. On the investment side, we internally model it right around $35 million a quarter, I believe, right in that neighborhood. Then on the loan side, we have another, call it $170, $180, I believe, in total, which hit around $200 million in total.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah, it's a great question, Steve. On the investment side, we internally model it right around $35 million a quarter, I believe, right in that neighborhood. Then on the loan side, we have another, call it $170, $180, I believe, in total, which hit around $200 million in total.
Speaker #4: And then on the loan side, we have another, call it $170 or $180 million, I believe, in total, which is right around $200 million in total.
Speaker #6: Okay. And that's for, okay, $170 to $180 million on the loans per quarter?
Steve Moss: Okay. That's for 170, 180 million on the loans per quarter?
Steve Moss: Okay. That's for 170, 180 million on the loans per quarter?
Speaker #4: Yes.
Simon Griffiths: Yes.
Simon Griffiths: Yes.
Speaker #6: Okay, got it. And just to pick up on the roll-on/roll-off phrase as we think about things, I'm assuming loan pricing is probably in the low to mid-sixes by picking up 150 to 200 basis points?
Steve Moss: Okay, got it. Kind of just to pick up the roll on/roll off rates, we think about things. I'm assuming loan pricing is probably in the low to mid sixes by picking up the 150 to 200 basis points.
Steve Moss: Okay, got it. Kind of just to pick up the roll on/roll off rates, we think about things. I'm assuming loan pricing is probably in the low to mid sixes by picking up the 150 to 200 basis points.
Speaker #4: Yeah, that's right. We're currently originating loans right in that low sixes to six-and-a-half range, if you will, on average.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah, that's right. We're currently originating loans right in that low sixes to six and a half range, if you will, on average.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah, that's right. We're currently originating loans right in that low sixes to six and a half range, if you will, on average.
Speaker #6: Okay, got it. And then, in terms of, good to see the pipeline here is strong. I'm just kind of curious, in terms of Q3 loan growth—to be measured here—just kind of curious, what are the factors driving that, just given a good pipeline here?
Steve Moss: Okay. Got you. In terms of good to see the pipeline here is strong. I guess just kind of curious in terms of Q3 loan growth to be measured here. Just kind of curious, what are the factors driving that, just given a good pipeline here?
Steve Moss: Okay. Got you. In terms of good to see the pipeline here is strong. I guess just kind of curious in terms of Q3 loan growth to be measured here. Just kind of curious, what are the factors driving that, just given a good pipeline here?
Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks, Steve. I mean, I think certainly commercial activity has been strong, and we're seeing, sort of across the geography, nice momentum. Certainly, home equity has been a significant growth engine for us.
Simon Griffiths: Thanks, Steve. I think certainly commercial activity has been strong, and we're seeing sort of across the geography, nice momentum. Certainly, home equity's been a significant growth engine for us. I talked about my remarks, not just we've expanded the sales team, but we've also improved and focused a lot on the customer experience with funding 14 days. I think there's a lot of momentum there, and that's certainly proving to be a really strong business. We're having a strong resi year as well, which is positive. I think overall, we're seeing a nice balanced story on the loan growth side, which I think is positive and certainly a reflection of our strategy and focus in this area.
Simon Griffiths: Thanks, Steve. I think certainly commercial activity has been strong, and we're seeing sort of across the geography, nice momentum. Certainly, home equity's been a significant growth engine for us. I talked about my remarks, not just we've expanded the sales team, but we've also improved and focused a lot on the customer experience with funding 14 days. I think there's a lot of momentum there, and that's certainly proving to be a really strong business. We're having a strong resi year as well, which is positive. I think overall, we're seeing a nice balanced story on the loan growth side, which I think is positive and certainly a reflection of our strategy and focus in this area.
Speaker #4: And I talked about in my remarks, not just that we've expanded the sales team, but we've also improved and focused a lot on the customer experience, with funding in 14 days.
Speaker #4: So, I think there's a lot of momentum there, and that's certainly proving to be a really strong business. We're having a strong resi year as well, which is positive.
Speaker #4: So I think, overall, we're seeing a nice, balanced story on the loan growth side, which I think is positive and certainly a reflection of our strategy and focus in this area.
Speaker #6: Okay, and that dovetails nicely with my next question. Just on the fee income here—you guys are having good trends on debit card, year-over-year. Service charges on deposits are up quite a bit, year-over-year.
Steve Moss: Okay. That dovetails nicely with my next question. Just on the fee income here. You guys are having good trends on debit card year-over-year, service charges on deposit up quite a bit year-over-year. I know you guys have been definitely. I know you've talked about it for a while, improving the customer activity and being more efficient and productive. It sounds like from your guidance, like you think this is more sustainable. Just kind of curious, just what component maybe was from price increases versus new customers or any color you can shed on those dynamics there?
Steve Moss: Okay. That dovetails nicely with my next question. Just on the fee income here. You guys are having good trends on debit card year-over-year, service charges on deposit up quite a bit year-over-year. I know you guys have been definitely. I know you've talked about it for a while, improving the customer activity and being more efficient and productive. It sounds like from your guidance, like you think this is more sustainable. Just kind of curious, just what component maybe was from price increases versus new customers or any color you can shed on those dynamics there?
Speaker #6: I know you guys have definitely— I know you talked about it for a while, improving the customer activity and being more efficient and productive.
Speaker #6: It sounds like, from your guidance, you think this is more sustainable. I'm kind of curious—just what component maybe was from price increases versus new customers, or any color you can shed on those dynamics there?
Speaker #4: Yeah, I'll start, Steven, and Mike can add some additional. I would say, just generally across the fee income, it was a balanced story for us.
Simon Griffiths: I'll start, Steve, and Mike can add some additional. I would say just generally across the fee income, it was a balanced story for us. We saw nice momentum across wealth management, which we talked about. Certainly brokerage, debit card, deposit-related fees, mortgage banking, I think all played a role, and certainly that's a key area of focus for us. We've particularly been investing a lot of time and effort in a couple of key areas, certainly on the wealth side. Building out and continue the momentum we have in the brokerage business. That's a sort of steady growth focus that we've had. We're also looking to expand the wealth offering, and certainly, obviously, New Hampshire offices, a lot of opportunities there. On the debit side, we've put a lot of focus into our digital, into our convenience, into our customer.
Simon Griffiths: I'll start, Steve, and Mike can add some additional. I would say just generally across the fee income, it was a balanced story for us. We saw nice momentum across wealth management, which we talked about. Certainly brokerage, debit card, deposit-related fees, mortgage banking, I think all played a role, and certainly that's a key area of focus for us. We've particularly been investing a lot of time and effort in a couple of key areas, certainly on the wealth side. Building out and continue the momentum we have in the brokerage business. That's a sort of steady growth focus that we've had. We're also looking to expand the wealth offering, and certainly, obviously, New Hampshire offices, a lot of opportunities there. On the debit side, we've put a lot of focus into our digital, into our convenience, into our customer.
Speaker #4: We saw nice momentum across wealth management, which we talked about. Certainly, brokerage, debit card, deposit-related fees, and mortgage banking all played a role.
Speaker #4: And certainly, that's a key area of focus for us. We've particularly been investing a lot of time and effort in a couple of key areas—certainly on the wealth side, building out and continuing the momentum we have in the brokerage business.
Speaker #4: That's a sort of steady growth focus that we've had. We're also looking to expand the wealth offering, and certainly, obviously, New Hampshire offers a lot of opportunities there.
Speaker #4: On the debit side, we've put a lot of focus into our digital, into our convenience, into our customer. We've just released a new online portal, which I think is fantastic and is getting really great reviews from customers.
Simon Griffiths: We've just released a new online portal, which I think is fantastic and getting really great from customers, and I think that's a key part of attracting new customers, which certainly directly drives the debit income for us. It's a multitude of pieces. I think these things are kind of moving in concert and continuing to strengthen the fee income side of our business is certainly a key focus.
Simon Griffiths: We've just released a new online portal, which I think is fantastic and getting really great from customers, and I think that's a key part of attracting new customers, which certainly directly drives the debit income for us. It's a multitude of pieces. I think these things are kind of moving in concert and continuing to strengthen the fee income side of our business is certainly a key focus.
Speaker #4: And I think that's a key part of attracting new customers, especially directly driving to the debit income for us. So it's a multitude of pieces.
Speaker #4: I think these things are kind of moving in concert and continuing to strengthen. The debit and the fee income side of our business is certainly a key focus.
Speaker #6: Okay, great. Now, for next quarter, I'll step back in the queue. Thank you very much, guys.
Steve Moss: Okay, great. No, nice quarter here. I'll step back on the queue. Thank you very much, guys.
Steve Moss: Okay, great. No, nice quarter here. I'll step back on the queue. Thank you very much, guys.
Speaker #4: Appreciate it. Thanks.
Simon Griffiths: Appreciate it. Thanks.
Simon Griffiths: Appreciate it. Thanks.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Breathes with Stevens, Inc. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Excuse me. Good afternoon.
Matthew Breese: Excuse me. Good afternoon.
Matthew Breese: Excuse me. Good afternoon.
Simon Griffiths: Hi, Matt.
Simon Griffiths: Hi, Matt.
Speaker #4: Hi, Matt.
Speaker #5: Mike, I appreciate the margin outlook and some of the data on where loan yields are coming in. Just curious, as we think about the fixed asset repricing and the roll-on, roll-off, particularly loan yields, when do you stop seeing the pronounced benefits to the NIM?
Matthew Breese: Mike, I appreciate the margin outlook and some of the data on where new loan yields are coming in. Just curious, as we think about kind of the fixed asset repricing and the roll on roll off, particularly of loan yields, when do you stop seeing the pronounced benefits to the NIM? Is that late 2027, 2028, or longer for you all?
Matthew Breese: Mike, I appreciate the margin outlook and some of the data on where new loan yields are coming in. Just curious, as we think about kind of the fixed asset repricing and the roll on roll off, particularly of loan yields, when do you stop seeing the pronounced benefits to the NIM? Is that late 2027, 2028, or longer for you all?
Speaker #5: Is that late 2027, 2028, or longer for you all?
Speaker #4: I mean, I think there are a lot of caveats to that answer there, Matt. I think it depends on a lot of things—certainly, the yield curve and so forth.
Michael Archer: I think there's a lot of caveats to that answer there, Matt. I think it depends on a lot of things, certainly yield curve and so forth. I would say at least for now, we see it certainly through 2026. We certainly could see benefit of investments. I think one real opportunity for us is just our investment book, being able to bring that down over time and frankly help fund some of the loan growth. That's a real opportunity. I think specifically to your question on the loans, I wouldn't say we're sitting here thinking that far out in terms of 2027, 2028 and what that's going to look like. I think we think on the loan yield side, and we just continue to see it tick up 2 to 3 basis points. That's something we've seen pretty consistently on a core basis.
Michael Archer: I think there's a lot of caveats to that answer there, Matt. I think it depends on a lot of things, certainly yield curve and so forth. I would say at least for now, we see it certainly through 2026. We certainly could see benefit of investments. I think one real opportunity for us is just our investment book, being able to bring that down over time and frankly help fund some of the loan growth. That's a real opportunity. I think specifically to your question on the loans, I wouldn't say we're sitting here thinking that far out in terms of 2027, 2028 and what that's going to look like. I think we think on the loan yield side, and we just continue to see it tick up 2 to 3 basis points. That's something we've seen pretty consistently on a core basis.
Speaker #4: I mean, I would say at least for now, we see it. I mean, certainly through 2026, we certainly could see benefit of investments and continuing to I think one real opportunity for us is just our investment book being able to bring that down over time and frankly help fund some of the loan growth.
Speaker #4: That's a real opportunity. And I think, specifically to your question on the loans, I wouldn't say we're sitting here thinking that far out in terms of 2027, 2028, and what that's going to look like.
Speaker #4: But I think, when we look at the loan yield side, we just continue to see it tick up two to three basis points. That's something we've seen pretty consistently on a core basis.
Speaker #4: And I think that's generally our outlook here over the next few quarters.
Michael Archer: I think that's generally our outlook here over the next few quarters.
Michael Archer: I think that's generally our outlook here over the next few quarters.
Speaker #6: Yeah, I would just add to that, Matt. I think overall, the team has had tremendous focus and discipline around building the yield. With just the kind of core fundamentals, we focused a lot on the primacy.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah. I would just add to that, Matt. I think overall, the team has had tremendous focus and discipline around building the yield with just the kind of core fundamentals. We focused a lot on the primacy we've talked about in previous calls with you, just really attracting broad relationships. We're leaning into treasury and other services that really push into C&I lending, which I think certainly come with stronger deposits. Business banking is a focus for us as well, that's another area that I think can continue to manage deposit costs. I think these are sort of fundamental underlying. I think Mike's point obviously, there's a lot of other pieces that kind of move and can shape the outlook into 2027, 2028.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah. I would just add to that, Matt. I think overall, the team has had tremendous focus and discipline around building the yield with just the kind of core fundamentals. We focused a lot on the primacy we've talked about in previous calls with you, just really attracting broad relationships. We're leaning into treasury and other services that really push into C&I lending, which I think certainly come with stronger deposits. Business banking is a focus for us as well, that's another area that I think can continue to manage deposit costs. I think these are sort of fundamental underlying. I think Mike's point obviously, there's a lot of other pieces that kind of move and can shape the outlook into 2027, 2028.
Speaker #6: We've talked about this in previous calls with you—just really attracting broader relationships. We're leaning into treasury and other services that really kind of push into C&I lending, which I think certainly come with stronger deposits. Business banking is a focus for us as well.
Speaker #6: So, that's another area that I think can continue to manage deposit costs. So I think these are sort of fundamental, underlying factors. I think Mike's point—obviously, there's a lot of other pieces that kind of move and can shape the outlook into '27, '28.
Speaker #6: But certainly, it's a core focus of the management team, and we see this as a really important part of our growth strategy and continuing to move that forward at whatever speed, obviously, we're able to do.
Simon Griffiths: Certainly it's a core focus of the management team, and we see this as a really important part of our growth strategy and continuing to move that forward at whatever speed, obviously, we're able to do.
Simon Griffiths: Certainly it's a core focus of the management team, and we see this as a really important part of our growth strategy and continuing to move that forward at whatever speed, obviously, we're able to do.
Speaker #6: Great.
Matthew Breese: Great. Mike, just looking at fee income, was there a BOLI death benefit gain this quarter within that line item? I just want to make sure I have everything in a row there.
Matthew Breese: Great. Mike, just looking at fee income, was there a BOLI death benefit gain this quarter within that line item? I just want to make sure I have everything in a row there.
Speaker #5: Mike, just looking at fee income, was there a BOLI death benefit gain this quarter within that line item? I just want to make sure I have everything in a row there.
Speaker #4: Yeah, good question. The short answer is yes. I would say that was a smaller part of the real kind of tick up, if you will, in the fully income this past quarter.
Michael Archer: Yeah. Good question. The short answer is yes. I would say that was smaller part of the real kind of tick up, if you will, in the BOLI income this past quarter. We do have some BOLI income where the underlying securities are more driven by the equity markets. That's something we picked up along with the Northway acquisition back in 2025. There is a level of, I'll call it more volatility in that number. I would even say that's when we think about fee income guidance, if you will, looking out a quarter out, that really plays into it because that's one of the unknowns certainly is what's going to happen with those equity securities.
Michael Archer: Yeah. Good question. The short answer is yes. I would say that was smaller part of the real kind of tick up, if you will, in the BOLI income this past quarter. We do have some BOLI income where the underlying securities are more driven by the equity markets. That's something we picked up along with the Northway acquisition back in 2025. There is a level of, I'll call it more volatility in that number. I would even say that's when we think about fee income guidance, if you will, looking out a quarter out, that really plays into it because that's one of the unknowns certainly is what's going to happen with those equity securities.
Speaker #4: We do have some BOLI income, where the underlying securities are more driven by the equity markets. That's something we picked up along with the Northway acquisition back in '25.
Speaker #4: So there is a level of, I'll call it, more volatility in that number. And I would even say that when we think about fee income guidance, if you will, looking out a quarter, that really plays into it, because that's one of the unknowns, certainly—what's going to happen with those equity securities.
Speaker #4: And so if you're wondering why a little bit, why we're at 14 and a half and why ticking down to 13 and a half to 14, it's largely in part that bully income that you're referencing, which was about a half million dollars in incremental revenues.
Michael Archer: If you're wondering why a little bit, why we're at 14.5, and why ticking down to 13.5 to 14, it's large in part that BOLI income that you're referencing, which was about a half million dollars in incremental revenues this past quarter.
Michael Archer: If you're wondering why a little bit, why we're at 14.5, and why ticking down to 13.5 to 14, it's large in part that BOLI income that you're referencing, which was about a half million dollars in incremental revenues this past quarter.
Speaker #4: This quarter, this past quarter.
Speaker #5: That incremental revenue—$500,000 or so—how much of that was debt penalty?
Matthew Breese: That incremental revenue, $500,000 or so, how much of that was death benefit?
Matthew Breese: That incremental revenue, $500,000 or so, how much of that was death benefit?
Speaker #4: I think it was right around 50, Matt, plus or minus 50,000. It wasn't overly significant.
Michael Archer: I think it was right around $50, Matt, ±$50,000. It wasn't overly significant.
Michael Archer: I think it was right around $50, Matt, ±$50,000. It wasn't overly significant.
Speaker #5: Oh, okay. So the majority of this is core?
Matthew Breese: Oh, okay. The majority of this is core.
Matthew Breese: Oh, okay. The majority of this is core.
Speaker #4: Yeah, core, yes. I'd say core, but it's unrealized gains, losses, kind of flushing through there.
Michael Archer: Yeah. Core, yes. I'd say core, but it's unrealized gains, losses kind of flushing through there.
Michael Archer: Yeah. Core, yes. I'd say core, but it's unrealized gains, losses kind of flushing through there.
Speaker #5: Got it. Okay. Simon, maybe one for you—just on M&A and conversations, and how things are going on that front, whether or not Camden is ready to go on that front.
Matthew Breese: Got it. Okay. Simon, maybe one for you just on M&A and conversations and how things are going on that front, whether or not Camden is ready to go on that front. It's been sluggish year-to-date in the Northeast Mid-Atlantic, M&A-wise. I'm curious if you're seeing that on your end, conversation-wise.
Matthew Breese: Got it. Okay. Simon, maybe one for you just on M&A and conversations and how things are going on that front, whether or not Camden is ready to go on that front. It's been sluggish year-to-date in the Northeast Mid-Atlantic, M&A-wise. I'm curious if you're seeing that on your end, conversation-wise.
Speaker #5: It's been a sluggish year to date in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, M&A-wise. I'm curious if you're seeing that on your end, conversation-wise.
Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks, Matt. Just before remarking on that piece, I would just say we continue to feel really good about the Northway integration and the value that that's driving to the franchise.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah. Thanks, Matt. Just before remarking on that piece, I would just say I continue to feel really good about the Northway integration and the value that's driving to the franchise. We're just seeing across the board just tremendous engagement and leadership from Oscar and James and the team out there, and just feel really good about that and the opportunity that that presents us. I know Ryan's putting a lot of focus on continuing to grow the commercial side out there as well. That's all been very positive. I think on the look forward front, as we've talked about, continue to see be open to opportunities, I think it always comes down to the right fit, certainly the contiguous market, and really finding the right partner.
Simon Griffiths: Yeah. Thanks, Matt. Just before remarking on that piece, I would just say I continue to feel really good about the Northway integration and the value that's driving to the franchise. We're just seeing across the board just tremendous engagement and leadership from Oscar and James and the team out there, and just feel really good about that and the opportunity that that presents us. I know Ryan's putting a lot of focus on continuing to grow the commercial side out there as well. That's all been very positive. I think on the look forward front, as we've talked about, continue to see be open to opportunities, I think it always comes down to the right fit, certainly the contiguous market, and really finding the right partner.
Speaker #4: We're just seeing, across the board, tremendous engagement and leadership from Oscar, James, and the team out there. We just feel really good about that.
Speaker #4: And the opportunity that that's presented us. And I know Ryan's putting a lot of focus on continuing to grow the commercial side out there as well.
Speaker #4: So that's all been very, very positive. I think, on the sort of look-forward front, as we've talked about, we'll continue to be open to opportunities.
Speaker #4: And I think it always comes down to the right fit. Certainly, the contiguous market and really finding the right partner, and as you say, things have been a little bit slower in the last six to twelve months, but I certainly have a positive outlook that if the right deal is there, we're a tremendous partner and we've demonstrated execution discipline.
Simon Griffiths: As you say, things have been certainly a little bit slower in the last six, 12 months, but certainly have a positive outlook that if the right deal is there, we're a tremendous partner. We've demonstrated execution discipline and the ability to get the job done. I think should the right opportunity come along, I think we're well positioned. Feeling very good about our organic growth strategy. There's no pressure from us from a timing perspective.
Simon Griffiths: As you say, things have been certainly a little bit slower in the last six, 12 months, but certainly have a positive outlook that if the right deal is there, we're a tremendous partner. We've demonstrated execution discipline and the ability to get the job done. I think should the right opportunity come along, I think we're well positioned. Feeling very good about our organic growth strategy. There's no pressure from us from a timing perspective.
Speaker #4: And the ability to get the job done. So I think, should the right opportunity come along, we're well positioned. But I'm feeling very good about our organic growth strategy.
Speaker #4: So there's no pressure from us from a timing perspective.
Speaker #5: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Matthew Breese: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Matthew Breese: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Simon Griffiths: Thanks.
Simon Griffiths: Thanks.
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Speaker #7: Good afternoon, everyone. Just a quick follow-up on the M&A question. Given your desire to continue to build fee income, what's your appetite for non-bank acquisitions?
Daniel Cardenas: Good afternoon, everyone. Just a quick follow-up on the M&A question. Given your desire to continue to build fee income, what's your appetite for non-bank acquisitions?
Daniel Cardenas: Good afternoon, everyone. Just a quick follow-up on the M&A question. Given your desire to continue to build fee income, what's your appetite for non-bank acquisitions?
Speaker #4: I think that we're open to looking at the right opportunity, and certainly on that fee income side, there could be a couple of ideas in that space that could be interesting.
Simon Griffiths: I think that we're open to looking at the right opportunity, and certainly on that fee income side, there could be a couple of ideas in that space that could be interesting. Generally the pricing on those pieces are pretty high. I wouldn't say it's a primary consideration. We certainly will and are open and have conversations with different entities, but I would say generally that's not something that's been really prevalent in terms of obviously a lot of competition, particularly on the wealth side, not something we've spent a lot of time on.
Simon Griffiths: I think that we're open to looking at the right opportunity, and certainly on that fee income side, there could be a couple of ideas in that space that could be interesting. Generally the pricing on those pieces are pretty high. I wouldn't say it's a primary consideration. We certainly will and are open and have conversations with different entities, but I would say generally that's not something that's been really prevalent in terms of obviously a lot of competition, particularly on the wealth side, not something we've spent a lot of time on.
Speaker #4: But generally, the pricing on that, those pieces are pretty high. So yeah, I wouldn't say it's a primary consideration. We certainly will on our open and have conversations with different entities, but I would say generally we're that's not something that's been really prevalent in terms of obviously a lot of competition, particularly on the wealth side.
Speaker #4: So, yeah, not something we've spent a lot of time on.
Speaker #7: Okay, and then just a reminder for me—in terms of the optimal size of institution you would look to acquire, what's kind of that size range?
Daniel Cardenas: Okay. Just a reminder for me, in terms of optimal size of institution you would look to acquire, what's kind of that size range?
Daniel Cardenas: Okay. Just a reminder for me, in terms of optimal size of institution you would look to acquire, what's kind of that size range?
Speaker #4: Yeah, I think these things come along as they come along. We are conscious, of course, of potentially crossing the $10 billion mark at some point.
Simon Griffiths: I think these things come along as they come along. We are conscious, of course, of crossing potentially at some point the 10 billion mark, and the income implications of that. I look at it sort of from just focusing on the fundamentals of the business, making sure that there's a there there, if you like, for the acquisition, partnership is there, the culture is there, the synergies there. We've talked about the contiguous markets as well. It's really making sure we have the right fit and obviously driving the revenue growth and really getting the leverage out of the transaction that really makes sense for investors. And obviously our teams as well.
Simon Griffiths: I think these things come along as they come along. We are conscious, of course, of crossing potentially at some point the 10 billion mark, and the income implications of that. I look at it sort of from just focusing on the fundamentals of the business, making sure that there's a there there, if you like, for the acquisition, partnership is there, the culture is there, the synergies there. We've talked about the contiguous markets as well. It's really making sure we have the right fit and obviously driving the revenue growth and really getting the leverage out of the transaction that really makes sense for investors. And obviously our teams as well.
Speaker #4: And the income implications of that. But I look at it sort of from a just focusing on the fundamentals of the business, making sure that there's really there's a there for the there's a there there, if you like, for the acquisition and partnership is there, the culture is there, the synergy is there.
Speaker #4: We've talked about the contiguous markets as well, so I think it's really making sure we have the right fit, and then obviously driving the revenue growth and really getting the leverage out of the transaction that really makes sense for investors.
Speaker #4: So I think, and obviously our teams as well. So it's getting those pieces right, and then I think at some point we would cross potentially that $10 billion mark, and then from there, there is obviously scale.
Simon Griffiths: It's getting those pieces right, I think at some point, we would cross potentially that 10 billion mark, from there is obviously scale, and getting to sort of the 12, 13, 14 certainly has some advantages from a revenue perspective. We look at those pieces, but like everything, these things aren't always can be planned perfectly, but I think we're in a really, as I said earlier, great position, and we're just focused on our organic strategy, focused on growth, focused on doing the basics really well and driving just top line growth through our existing franchise and businesses and just see tremendous opportunity for that in all of our markets and some of the markets that obviously are relatively new to us in sort of New Hampshire and other areas. Lots of positives on the organic growth front as well.
Simon Griffiths: It's getting those pieces right, I think at some point, we would cross potentially that 10 billion mark, from there is obviously scale, and getting to sort of the 12, 13, 14 certainly has some advantages from a revenue perspective. We look at those pieces, but like everything, these things aren't always can be planned perfectly, but I think we're in a really, as I said earlier, great position, and we're just focused on our organic strategy, focused on growth, focused on doing the basics really well and driving just top line growth through our existing franchise and businesses and just see tremendous opportunity for that in all of our markets and some of the markets that obviously are relatively new to us in sort of New Hampshire and other areas. Lots of positives on the organic growth front as well.
Speaker #4: And getting to sort of the 12, 13, 14 range certainly has some advantages from a revenue perspective. So we look at those pieces, but like everything, these things aren't always pat plan.
Speaker #4: It can't be planned perfectly. But I think we're in a really, as I said earlier, great position. We're just focused on our organic strategy, focused on growth, focused on doing the basics really well, and driving just top-line growth through our existing franchise and businesses. We just see tremendous opportunity for that in all of our markets, and some of the markets that obviously are relatively new to us, like New Hampshire and other areas.
Speaker #4: So, lots of positives on the organic growth front as well.
Speaker #7: Okay. Great. Thank you. I'll step back.
Daniel Cardenas: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll step back.
Daniel Cardenas: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll step back.
Speaker #1: As we have no further questions, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Simon Griffiths for any closing remarks.
Operator: As we have no further questions, this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Simon Griffiths for any closing remarks.
Operator: As we have no further questions, this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Simon Griffiths for any closing remarks.
Speaker #5: Thank you for your time today and your continued interest in Camden National Corporation. We are pleased with the progress we made in the second quarter and remain focused on executing with discipline, investing in growth, and delivering long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and communities.
Simon Griffiths: Thank you for your time today and your continued interest in Camden National Corporation. We are pleased with the progress we made in Q2 and remain focused on executing with discipline, investing in growth, and delivering long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and communities. We continue to appreciate your support. Have a great day.
Simon Griffiths: Thank you for your time today and your continued interest in Camden National Corporation. We are pleased with the progress we made in Q2 and remain focused on executing with discipline, investing in growth, and delivering long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and communities. We continue to appreciate your support. Have a great day.
Speaker #5: And we continue to appreciate your support. Have a great day.
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