Q2 2026 NBT Bancorp Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good day, everyone. Welcome to the conference call covering NBT Bancorp Q2 2026 financial results. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with SEC regulation FD.
Operator: Good day, everyone. Welcome to the conference call covering NBT Bancorp's Q2 2026 financial results. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with SEC Regulation FD. Corresponding presentation slides can be found on the company's website at nbtbancorp.com. Before the call begins, NBT management would like to remind listeners that, as noted on slide 2, today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Securities and Exchange Commission. Actual results may differ from those projected. In addition, certain non-GAAP measures will be discussed. Reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of today's presentation. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this call is being recorded.
Operator: Good day, everyone. Welcome to the Conference Call covering NBT Bancorp's Q2 2026 Financial Results. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with SEC Regulation FD. Corresponding presentation slides can be found on the company's website at nbtbancorp.com. Before the call begins, NBT management would like to remind listeners that, as noted on slide two, today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Securities and Exchange Commission. Actual results may differ from those projected. In addition, certain non-GAAP measures will be discussed. Reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of today's presentation. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this call is being recorded.
Speaker #1: Corresponding presentation slides can be found on the company's website at nbtbancorp.com. Before the call begins, NBT management would like to remind listeners that as noted on slide 2, today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Speaker #1: Actual results may differ from those projected, in addition certain non-GAAP measures will be discussed reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of today's presentation.
Speaker #1: Good day, everyone. Welcome to the conference call covering NBT Bancorp Q2 2026 financial results. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with SEC Regulation FD. Corresponding presentation slides can be found on the company's website at nbtbancorp.com.
Speaker #1: Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this call is being recorded.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the conference over to NBT Bancorp President and CEO, Scott Kingsley, for his opening remarks. Mr. Kingsley, please begin.
Operator: I will now turn the conference over to NBT Bancorp President and CEO, Scott Kingsley, for his opening remarks. Mr. Kingsley, please begin.
Operator: I will now turn the conference over to NBT Bancorp President and CEO, Scott Kingsley, for his opening remarks. Mr. Kingsley, please begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Cherie. Good morning, and welcome to this earnings call covering NBT Bancorp Q2 2026 results. With me today are Nett Burns, NBT's Chief Financial Officer; Joe Stagliano, President of NBT Bank; and Joan Desco, our Treasurer.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thank you, Cherie. Good morning and welcome to this earnings call covering NBT Bancorp's Q2 2026 results. With me today are Annette Burns, NBT's Chief Financial Officer, Joe Stagliano, President of NBT Bank, and Joe Ondesko, our treasurer. We are pleased with our solid operating performance for Q2, which demonstrated the strength and momentum of NBT's diversified financial services franchise. We generated significantly stronger earnings than in the prior year quarter, grew loans across every business line, and expanded our net interest margin to 3.73%, an increase of 14 basis points from 1 year ago. More than 1 year after completing the acquisition of Evans Bancorp, we continue to benefit from the talented team members, strong customer relationships, and established market presence.
Scott Kingsley: Thank you, Cherie. Good morning and welcome to this earnings call covering NBT Bancorp's Q2 2026 results. With me today are Annette Burns, NBT's Chief Financial Officer, Joe Stagliano, President of NBT Bank, and Joe Ondesko, our treasurer. We are pleased with our solid operating performance for Q2, which demonstrated the strength and momentum of NBT's diversified financial services franchise. We generated significantly stronger earnings than in the prior year quarter, grew loans across every business line, and expanded our net interest margin to 3.73%, an increase of 14 basis points from one year ago. More than 1 year after completing the acquisition of Evans Bancorp, we continue to benefit from the talented team members, strong customer relationships, and established market presence.
Speaker #1: Before the call begins, NBT management would like to remind listeners that add as noted on slide 2, today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Speaker #1: Actual results may differ from those projected. In addition, certain non-GAAP measures will be discussed; reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of today's presentation.
Speaker #2: We are pleased with our solid operating performance for the second quarter. Which demonstrated the strength and momentum of NBT's diversified financial services franchise. We generated significantly stronger earnings than in the prior-year quarter, grew loans across every business line, and expanded our net interest margin to 3.73%, an increase of 14 basis points from one year ago.
Speaker #1: Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this call is being recorded.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the conference over to NBT Bancorp President and CEO, Scott Kingsley, for his opening remarks. Mr. Kingsley, please begin.
Speaker #2: More than a year after completing the acquisition of Evans Bancorp, we continue to benefit from the talented team members' strong customer relationships and established market presence.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Cherie. Good morning, and welcome to this earnings call covering NBT Bancorp Q2 2026 results. With me today are Annette Burns, NBT's Chief Financial Officer; Joe Stagliano, President of NBT Bank; and Joan Desco, our Treasurer.
Speaker #2: The acquisition created a strong foundation for our franchise in Buffalo and Rochester, and we have continued to build on that momentum by expanding opportunities for our customers through NBT's broader capabilities and ongoing growth initiatives.
Scott A. Kingsley: The acquisition created a strong foundation for our franchise in Buffalo and Rochester. We have continued to build on that momentum by expanding opportunities for our customers through NBT's broader capabilities and ongoing growth initiatives. During Q2, the Buffalo region generated the highest loan origination volume across our franchise. As we mentioned in our Q1 conference call, the difficult winter conditions impacted loan activity across our markets. We experienced a higher than expected level of commercial real estate payoffs in Q1. Since then, activity levels have been quite good. We have achieved growth of 2.4% in total loans for H1 2026. Operating return on assets was 1.32% for Q2, with operating return on tangible equity of 15.61%.
Scott Kingsley: The acquisition created a strong foundation for our franchise in Buffalo and Rochester. We have continued to build on that momentum by expanding opportunities for our customers through NBT's broader capabilities and ongoing growth initiatives. During Q2, the Buffalo region generated the highest loan origination volume across our franchise. As we mentioned in our Q1 conference call, the difficult winter conditions impacted loan activity across our markets. We experienced a higher than expected level of commercial real estate payoffs in Q1. Since then, activity levels have been quite good. We have achieved growth of 2.4% in total loans for H1 2026. Operating return on assets was 1.32% for Q2, with operating return on tangible equity of 15.61%.
Speaker #2: We are pleased with the second quarter, which demonstrated the strength and momentum of NBT's diversified financial services franchise. We generated significantly stronger earnings than in the prior-year quarter, grew loans across every business line, and expanded our net interest margin to 3.73%, an increase of 14 basis points from one year ago.
Speaker #2: During the second quarter, the Buffalo region generated the highest loan origination volume across our franchise. As we mentioned in our first quarter conference call, the difficult winter conditions impacted loan activity across our markets, and we experienced a higher-than-expected level of commercial real estate payoffs in the first quarter.
Speaker #2: More than a year after completing the acquisition of Evans Bancorp, we continue to benefit from the talented team members' strong customer relationships and established market presence.
Speaker #2: Since then, activity levels have been quite good, and we have achieved growth of 2.4% in total loans for the first half of 2026. Operating return on assets was 1.32% for the second quarter, with operating return on tangible equity of 15.61%.
Speaker #2: The acquisition created a strong foundation for our franchise in Buffalo and Rochester, and we have continued to build on that momentum by expanding opportunities for our customers through NBT's broader capabilities and ongoing growth initiatives.
Speaker #2: These metrics represent continued meaningful improvement over the prior year and have provided incremental capital flexibility. Our tangible book value per share of $27.71 at quarter-end was 12.8% higher than a year ago.
Scott A. Kingsley: These metrics represent continued meaningful improvement over the prior year and have provided incremental capital flexibility. Our tangible book value per share of $27.71 at quarter end was 12.8% higher than a year ago. Our capital utilization priorities remain focused on supporting organic growth while continuing our longstanding commitment to annual dividend improvement. Accordingly, we are pleased to announce that we've increased our quarterly cash dividend for the 14th consecutive year. At $0.40 per share for Q3 2026, this increase of 8.1% over the prior year quarter affirms our continued commitment to providing favorable long-term returns to our shareholders. In addition, our strong capital levels continue to allow us to evaluate a variety of strategic opportunities, as well as opportunistic share repurchases, including 318,000 shares purchased in H1 2026.
Scott Kingsley: These metrics represent continued meaningful improvement over the prior year and have provided incremental capital flexibility. Our tangible book value per share of $27.71 at quarter end was 12.8% higher than a year ago. Our capital utilization priorities remain focused on supporting organic growth while continuing our longstanding commitment to annual dividend improvement. Accordingly, we are pleased to announce that we've increased our quarterly cash dividend for the 14th consecutive year. At $0.40 per share for Q3 2026, this increase of 8.1% over the prior year quarter affirms our continued commitment to providing favorable long-term returns to our shareholders. In addition, our strong capital levels continue to allow us to evaluate a variety of strategic opportunities, as well as opportunistic share repurchases, including 318,000 shares purchased in H1 2026.
Speaker #2: During the second quarter, the Buffalo region generated the highest loan origination volume across our franchise. As we mentioned in our first quarter conference call, the difficult winter conditions impacted loan activity across our markets, and we experienced a higher-than-expected level of commercial real estate payoffs in the first quarter.
Speaker #2: Our capital utilization priorities remain focused on supporting organic growth while continuing our long-standing commitment to annual dividend improvement. Accordingly, we are pleased to announce that we have increased our quarterly cash dividend for the 14th consecutive year.
Speaker #2: Since then, activity levels have been quite good, and we have achieved growth of 2.4% in total loans for the first half of 2026. Operating return on assets was 1.32% for the second quarter, with operating return on tangible equity of 15.61%.
Speaker #2: At $0.40 per share for the third quarter of 2026, this increase of 8.1% over the prior-year quarter affirms our continued commitment to providing favorable long-term returns to our shareholders.
Speaker #2: These metrics represent continued meaningful improvement over the prior year and have provided incremental capital flexibility. Our tangible book value per share of $27.71 at quarter-end was 12.8% higher than a year ago.
Speaker #2: In addition, our strong capital levels continue to allow us to evaluate a variety of strategic opportunities as well as opportunistic share repurchases, including $318,000 shares purchased in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #2: Our capital utilization priorities remain focused on supporting organic growth while continuing our long-standing commitment to annual dividend improvement. Accordingly, we are pleased to announce that we have increased our quarterly cash dividend for the 14th consecutive year.
Speaker #2: Momentum across upstate New York's semiconductor corridor continues to build. Construction activity at the Micron site near Syracuse has advanced meaningfully, and we are beginning to see related opportunities materialize across infrastructure, construction, and professional services sectors throughout the region.
Scott A. Kingsley: Momentum across Upstate New York's semiconductor corridor continues to build. Construction activity at the Micron site near Syracuse has advanced meaningfully, and we are beginning to see related opportunities materialize across infrastructure, construction, and professional services sectors throughout the region. In addition to activity at the site itself, there is increasing focus on housing and community development initiatives designed to support workforce needs. Taken together, these investments reinforce our positive outlook for long-term economic growth across Central New York. More broadly, we remain encouraged by the opportunities we see across our seven-state footprint. Through support of economic development projects, customer expansion activity, and our own recently announced investments in new locations in the Rochester and Southern Maine markets, we continue to position NBT for sustainable growth while supporting the communities we serve.
Scott Kingsley: Momentum across Upstate New York's semiconductor corridor continues to build. Construction activity at the Micron site near Syracuse has advanced meaningfully, and we are beginning to see related opportunities materialize across infrastructure, construction, and professional services sectors throughout the region. In addition to activity at the site itself, there is increasing focus on housing and community development initiatives designed to support workforce needs. Taken together, these investments reinforce our positive outlook for long-term economic growth across Central New York. More broadly, we remain encouraged by the opportunities we see across our seven-state footprint. Through support of economic development projects, customer expansion activity, and our own recently announced investments in new locations in the Rochester and Southern Maine markets, we continue to position NBT for sustainable growth while supporting the communities we serve.
Speaker #2: At $0.40 per share for the third quarter of 2026, this increase of 8.1% over the prior year quarter affirms our continued commitment to providing favorable long-term returns to our shareholders.
Speaker #2: In addition to activity at the site itself, there is increasing focus on housing and community development initiatives designed to support workforce needs. Taken together, these investments reinforce our positive outlook for long-term economic growth across central New York.
Speaker #2: In addition, our strong capital levels continue to allow us to evaluate a variety of strategic opportunities as well as opportunistic share repurchases, including $318,000 shares purchased in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #2: More broadly, we remain encouraged by the opportunities we see across our seven-state footprint. Through support of economic development projects, customer expansion activity, and our own recently announced investments in new locations, in the Rochester and Southern Maine markets, we continue to position NBT for sustainable growth while supporting the communities we serve.
Speaker #2: Momentum across upstate New York's semiconductor corridor continues to build. Construction activity at the Micron site near Syracuse has advanced meaningfully, and we are beginning to see related opportunities materialize across infrastructure, construction, and professional services sectors throughout the region.
Speaker #2: With strong balance sheet fundamentals, healthy loan growth, and continued momentum across our franchise, we are well-positioned going into the second half of 2026. I will now turn the meeting over to Annette to review our Q2 results with you in detail.
Scott A. Kingsley: With strong balance sheet fundamentals, healthy loan growth, and continued momentum across our franchise, we are well positioned going into H2 2026. I will now turn the meeting over to Annette to review our Q2 results with you in detail. Annette?
Scott Kingsley: With strong balance sheet fundamentals, healthy loan growth, and continued momentum across our franchise, we are well positioned going into H2 2026. I will now turn the meeting over to Annette to review our Q2 results with you in detail. Annette?
Speaker #2: In addition to activity at the site itself, there is increasing focus on housing and community development initiatives designed to support workforce needs. Taken together, these investments reinforce our positive outlook for long-term economic growth across Central New York.
Speaker #2: Annette?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Scott. And good morning. Turning to the results overview page of our earnings presentation, we reported Q2 net income of $53 million or $1.02 per diluted common share.
Annette L. Burns: Thank you, Scott, and good morning. Turning to the results overview page of our earnings presentation, we reported Q2 net income of $53 million or $1.02 per diluted common share. Compared to Q2 2025, we have improved operating earnings by 15%. Earnings benefited from record revenues driven by net interest margin expansion, loan growth, and strong contributions from our non-interest income sources. We continue to generate year-over-year positive operating leverage during the quarter, with revenue growth of 9% outpacing expense growth of 6%. Turning to loans on the next page, total loans ended the quarter at $11.9 billion, increasing $276 million or 2.4% from 31 December 2025. All business lines experienced growth, with commercial loans increasing $178 million and consumer loans increasing $98 million during the first six months of the year.
Annette Burns: Thank you, Scott, and good morning. Turning to the results overview page of our earnings presentation, we reported Q2 net income of $53 million or $1.02 per diluted common share. Compared to Q2 2025, we have improved operating earnings by 15%. Earnings benefited from record revenues driven by net interest margin expansion, loan growth, and strong contributions from our non-interest income sources. We continue to generate year-over-year positive operating leverage during the quarter, with revenue growth of 9% outpacing expense growth of 6%. Turning to loans on the next page, total loans ended the quarter at $11.9 billion, increasing $276 million or 2.4% from 31 December 2025. All business lines experienced growth, with commercial loans increasing $178 million and consumer loans increasing $98 million during the first six months of the year.
Speaker #2: More broadly, we remain encouraged by the opportunities we see across our seven-state footprint. Through support of economic development projects, customer expansion activity, and our own recently announced investments in new locations in the Rochester and Southern Maine markets, we continue to position NBT for sustainable growth while supporting the communities we serve.
Speaker #3: Compared to the Q2 of 2025, we have improved operating earnings by 15%. Earnings benefited from record revenues, driven by net interest margin expansion, loan growth, and strong contributions from our non-interest income sources.
Speaker #2: With strong balance-sheet fundamentals, healthy loan growth, and continued momentum across our franchise, we are well-positioned going into the second half of 2026. I will now turn the meeting over to Annette to review our second quarter results with you in detail.
Speaker #3: We continue to generate year-over-year positive operating leverage during the quarter, with revenue growth of 9% outpacing expense growth of 6%. Turning to loans on the next page, total loans ended the quarter at $11.9 billion, increasing $276 million or 2.4% from December 31, 2025.
Speaker #2: Annette?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Scott, and good morning. Turning to the results overview page of our earnings presentation, we reported second quarter net income of $53 million, or $1.02 per diluted common share.
Speaker #3: All businesses lines experienced growth, with commercial loans increasing $178 million and consumer loans increasing $98 million during the first six months of the year.
Speaker #3: Compared to the second quarter of 2025, we have improved operating earnings by 15%. Earnings benefited from record revenues, driven by net interest margin expansion, loan growth, and strong contributions from our non-interest income sources.
Speaker #3: The increase in commercial loans was well-balanced between CNI and CRE relationships, with all markets across our footprint experiencing positive customer activity and contributing to the growth.
Annette L. Burns: The increase in commercial loans was well balanced between C&I and CRE relationships, with all markets across our footprint experiencing positive customer activity and contributing to the growth. Commercial loan payoffs remained elevated compared to last year, but decreased from the prior quarter. On page six, total deposits were $13.5 billion at quarter end and increased modestly from year-end levels. Deposits declined $205.7 million from 31 March 2026, primarily due to expected seasonal municipal outflows. Municipal deposit balances typically build during Q1 and Q3 with tax collection activity and decline as those funds are dispersed, resulting in seasonal fluctuations throughout the year. We have maintained a strong funding profile, with almost 60% of total deposits in no and low-cost checking and savings accounts at a blended cost of just under 40 basis points.
Annette Burns: The increase in commercial loans was well balanced between C&I and CRE relationships, with all markets across our footprint experiencing positive customer activity and contributing to the growth. Commercial loan payoffs remained elevated compared to last year, but decreased from the prior quarter. On page six, total deposits were $13.5 billion at quarter end and increased modestly from year-end levels. Deposits declined $205.7 million from 31 March 2026, primarily due to expected seasonal municipal outflows. Municipal deposit balances typically build during Q1 and Q3 with tax collection activity and decline as those funds are dispersed, resulting in seasonal fluctuations throughout the year. We have maintained a strong funding profile, with almost 60% of total deposits in no and low-cost checking and savings accounts at a blended cost of just under 40 basis points.
Speaker #3: We continue to generate year-over-year positive operating leverage during the quarter, with revenue growth of 9% outpacing expense growth of 6%. Turning to loans, on the next page, total loans ended the quarter at $11.9 billion, increasing $276 million or 2.4% from December 31, 2025.
Speaker #3: Commercial loan payoffs remained elevated compared to last year, but decreased from the prior quarter. On page 6, total deposits were $13.5 billion at quarter-end, an increase modestly from year-end levels.
Speaker #3: Deposits declined $205.7 million from March 31, 2026, primarily due to expected seasonal municipal outflows. Municipal deposit balances typically billed during the first and third quarters, with tax collection activity and decline as those funds are dispersed, resulting in seasonal fluctuations throughout the year.
Speaker #3: All business lines experienced growth, with commercial loans increasing $178 million and consumer loans increasing $98 million during the first six months of the year.
Speaker #3: The increase in commercial loans was well balanced between CNI and CRE relationships, with all markets across our footprint experiencing positive customer activity and contributing to the growth.
Speaker #3: We have maintained a strong funding profile, with almost 60% of total deposits in no and low-cost checking and savings accounts at a blended cost of just under $40 basis points.
Speaker #3: Commercial loan payoffs remained elevated compared to last year but decreased from the prior quarter. On page six, total deposits were $13.5 billion at quarter-end, an increase from year-end levels.
Speaker #3: Total deposit costs declined by 1 basis point during the quarter to $1.33%, while the total cost of funds declined to $1.41%. From year-end levels, we have experienced a favorable change in our mix of deposits, out of higher-cost time deposits and into checking, savings, and money market products.
Annette L. Burns: Total deposit costs declined by one basis point during the quarter to 1.33%, while the total cost of funds declined to 1.41%. From year-end levels, we have experienced a favorable change in our mix of deposits out of higher cost time deposits and into checking, savings, and money market products. We continue to tactically manage funding strategies to grow relationships while still maintaining better than peer cost of funds. The next slide highlights changes in net interest income and margin. Our net interest income increased to a record $137 million, up $3 million from Q1 and more than 10% above Q2 2025. The increase from Q1 was driven by organic growth in interest earning assets and a decrease in funding costs, along with the benefit of one additional calendar day in the quarter.
Annette Burns: Total deposit costs declined by one basis point during the quarter to 1.33%, while the total cost of funds declined to 1.41%. From year-end levels, we have experienced a favorable change in our mix of deposits out of higher cost time deposits and into checking, savings, and money market products. We continue to tactically manage funding strategies to grow relationships while still maintaining better than peer cost of funds. The next slide highlights changes in net interest income and margin. Our net interest income increased to a record $137 million, up $3 million from Q1 and more than 10% above Q2 2025. The increase from Q1 was driven by organic growth in interest earning assets and a decrease in funding costs, along with the benefit of one additional calendar day in the quarter.
Speaker #3: Deposits declined $205.7 million from March 31, 2026, primarily due to expected seasonal municipal outflows. Municipal deposit balances typically build during the first and third quarters with tax collection activity and decline as those funds are dispersed, resulting in seasonal fluctuations throughout the year.
Speaker #3: We continue to tactically manage funding strategies to grow relationships while still maintaining better-than-peer cost of funds. The next slide highlights changes in net interest income and margin.
Speaker #3: Our net interest margin increased to a record—excuse me—our net interest income increased to a record $137 million, up $3 million from the first quarter, and more than 10% above the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #3: We have maintained a strong funding profile, with almost 60% of total deposits in no- and low-cost checking and savings accounts at a blended cost of just under 40 basis points.
Speaker #3: Total deposit costs declined by 1 basis point during the quarter to 1.33%, while the total cost of funds declined to 1.41%. From year-end levels, we have experienced a favorable change in our mix of deposits out of higher-cost time deposits and into checking, savings, and money market products.
Speaker #3: The increase from the first quarter was driven by organic growth and interest-earning assets and a decrease in funding costs. Along with the benefit of one additional calendar day in the quarter.
Speaker #3: Net interest margin increased 1 basis point to 3.73% compared with the prior quarter. Our balance sheet remains well-positioned across a variety of interest rate environments and continues to demonstrate relatively low sensitivity to rate changes.
Annette L. Burns: Net interest margin increased one basis point to 3.73% compared with the prior quarter. Our balance sheet remains well-positioned across a variety of interest rate environments and continues to demonstrate relatively low sensitivity to rate changes. The opportunity for further upward movement in earning asset yields and net interest margin will largely depend on the shape of the yield curve with the reinvestment of loan and investment portfolio cash flows. The trends in non-interest income are outlined on page eight. Excluding securities gains, our fee income was $49.6 million, consistent with the prior quarter and increased 5.8% from Q2 2025. Growth was led by retirement plan administration revenue, which increased 7.8% from the prior year. Combined revenues from the retirement plan services, wealth management, and insurance services generated more than $32 million in quarterly revenues.
Annette Burns: Net interest margin increased one basis point to 3.73% compared with the prior quarter. Our balance sheet remains well-positioned across a variety of interest rate environments and continues to demonstrate relatively low sensitivity to rate changes. The opportunity for further upward movement in earning asset yields and net interest margin will largely depend on the shape of the yield curve with the reinvestment of loan and investment portfolio cash flows. The trends in non-interest income are outlined on page eight. Excluding securities gains, our fee income was $49.6 million, consistent with the prior quarter and increased 5.8% from Q2 2025. Growth was led by retirement plan administration revenue, which increased 7.8% from the prior year. Combined revenues from the retirement plan services, wealth management, and insurance services generated more than $32 million in quarterly revenues.
Speaker #3: We continue to tactically manage funding strategies to grow relationships while still maintaining better-than-peer cost of funds. The next slide highlights changes in net interest income and margin.
Speaker #3: The opportunity for further upward movement in earning asset yields and net interest margin will largely depend on the shape of the yield curve, with the reinvestment of loan and investment portfolio cash flows.
Speaker #3: Our net interest margin increased to a record—excuse me, our net interest income increased to a record $137 million, up $3 million from the first quarter and more than 10% above the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #3: The trends in non-interest income are outlined on page 8. Excluding securities gains, our fee income was $49.6 million, consistent with the prior quarter, an increase 5.8% from the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #3: The increase from the first quarter was driven by organic growth in interest-earning assets and a decrease in funding costs, along with the benefit of one additional calendar day in the quarter.
Speaker #3: Growth was led by retirement plan administration revenue, which increased 7.8% from the prior year. Combined revenues from the retirement plan services, wealth management, and insurance services generated more than $32 million in quarterly revenues.
Speaker #3: Net interest margin increased 1 basis point to 3.73% compared with the prior quarter. Our balance sheet remains well-positioned across a variety of interest rate environments and continues to demonstrate relatively low sensitivity to rate changes.
Speaker #3: Non-interest income represented approximately $27% of total revenues in the second quarter, and reflects the strength of our diversified revenue base. Total operating expenses declined 0.7% from the prior quarter, salaries and employee benefit costs were $69 million, a modest increase from the prior quarter.
Annette L. Burns: Non-interest income represented approximately 27% of total revenues in Q2 and reflects the strength of our diversified revenue base. Total operating expenses declined 0.7% from the prior quarter. Salaries and employee benefit costs were $69 million, a modest increase from the prior quarter. This increase was primarily driven by the full quarter impact of merit increases implemented in March, one additional payroll day, and higher medical costs, partially offset by lower payroll taxes and stock-based compensation costs, which are seasonally higher in Q1. The quarter-over-quarter decrease in occupancy expenses was expected, driven by the decline in seasonal costs, primarily maintenance, and utilities. Slide 10 provides an overview of key asset quality metrics. Provision expense for the three months ended 30 June 2026 was $6.1 million compared to $5.6 million for Q1 2026.
Annette Burns: Non-interest income represented approximately 27% of total revenues in Q2 and reflects the strength of our diversified revenue base. Total operating expenses declined 0.7% from the prior quarter. Salaries and employee benefit costs were $69 million, a modest increase from the prior quarter. This increase was primarily driven by the full quarter impact of merit increases implemented in March, one additional payroll day, and higher medical costs, partially offset by lower payroll taxes and stock-based compensation costs, which are seasonally higher in Q1. The quarter-over-quarter decrease in occupancy expenses was expected, driven by the decline in seasonal costs, primarily maintenance, and utilities. Slide 10 provides an overview of key asset quality metrics. Provision expense for the three months ended 30 June 2026 was $6.1 million compared to $5.6 million for Q1 2026.
Speaker #3: The opportunity for further upward movement and earning asset yields and net interest margin will largely depend on the shape of the yield curve, with the reinvestment of loan and investment portfolio cash flows.
Speaker #3: The trends in non-interest income are outlined on page eight. Excluding securities gains, our fee income was $49.6 million consistent with the prior quarter and increased 5.8% from the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #3: This increase was primarily driven by the full quarter impact of merit increases implemented in March, one additional payroll day, and higher medical costs, partially offset by lower payroll taxes and stock-based compensation costs, which our seasonally higher in the first quarter.
Speaker #3: Growth was led by retirement plan administration revenue, which increased 7.8% from the prior year. Combined revenues from the retirement plan services wealth management and insurance services generated more than $32 million in quarterly revenues.
Speaker #3: The quarter-over-quarter decrease in occupancy expenses was expected, driven by the decline in seasonal costs, primarily maintenance and utilities. Slide 10 provides an overview of key asset quality metrics.
Speaker #3: Non-interest income represented approximately 27% of total revenues in the second quarter and reflects the strength of our diversified revenue base. Total operating expenses declined 0.7% from the prior quarter. Salaries and employee benefit costs were $69 million, a modest increase from the prior quarter.
Speaker #3: Provision expense for the three months ended June 30, 2026, was $6.1 million, compared to $5.6 million for the first quarter of 2026. The increase in the provision for loan losses during the quarter was primarily due to providing for the second quarter's loan growth.
Annette L. Burns: The increase in the provision for loan losses during the quarter was primarily due to providing for the Q2's loan growth. Reserves were 1.18% of total loans and covered more than two times the level of non-performing loans. Our Q2 results continued our positive momentum over the last several quarters, with quality earnings and strong activity levels across all our markets and business lines. We continue to benefit from a diversified balance sheet, strong fee-based businesses, disciplined risk management, and ample capital levels. We remain well positioned to support our customers, invest in our franchise, and create long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you for your interest in our results. At this time, we welcome any questions you may have.
Annette Burns: The increase in the provision for loan losses during the quarter was primarily due to providing for the Q2's loan growth. Reserves were 1.18% of total loans and covered more than two times the level of non-performing loans. Our Q2 results continued our positive momentum over the last several quarters, with quality earnings and strong activity levels across all our markets and business lines. We continue to benefit from a diversified balance sheet, strong fee-based businesses, disciplined risk management, and ample capital levels. We remain well positioned to support our customers, invest in our franchise, and create long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you for your interest in our results. At this time, we welcome any questions you may have.
Speaker #3: This increase was primarily driven by the full quarter impact of merit increases implemented in March, one additional payroll day, and higher medical costs, partially offset by lower payroll taxes and stock-based compensation costs, which are seasonally higher in the first quarter.
Speaker #3: Reserves were $1.18% of total loans, and covered more than 2 times the level of non-performing loans. Our second quarter results continued our positive momentum over the last several quarters, with quality earnings and strong activity levels across all our markets and business lines.
Speaker #3: The quarter-over-quarter decrease in occupancy expenses was expected, driven by the decline in seasonal costs, primarily maintenance and utilities. Slide 10 provides an overview of key asset quality metrics.
Speaker #3: We continue to benefit from a diversified balance sheet, strong fee-based businesses, disciplined risk management, and ample capital levels. We remained well-positioned to support our customers' invest in our franchise and create long-term value for our shareholders.
Speaker #3: Provision expense for the three months ended June 30, 2026, was $6.1 million, compared to $5.6 million for the first quarter of 2026. The increase in the provision for loan losses during the quarter was primarily due to providing for the second quarter's loan growth.
Speaker #3: Thank you for our interest in our results. At this time, we welcome any questions you may have.
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Operator: Thank you. To ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, press star one one again. One moment while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question will come from the line of Feddie Strickland with Hovde Group. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: Reserves were 1.18% of total loans and covered more than two times the level of non-performing loans. Our second-quarter results continued our positive momentum over the last several quarters, with quality earnings and strong activity levels across all our markets and business lines.
Speaker #1: One moment while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question will come from the line of Fedi Strickland, with Half Day Group. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: We continue to benefit from a diversified balance sheet, strong fee-based businesses, disciplined risk management, and ample capital levels. We remain well-positioned to support our customers, invest in our franchise, and create long-term value for our shareholders.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, Scott. And just.
Feddie Strickland: Hey, good morning, Scott and Annette.
Feddie Strickland: Hey, good morning, Scott and Annette.
Annette L. Burns: Morning, Feddie. Congratulations on your family addition.
Annette Burns: Morning, Feddie. Congratulations on your family addition.
Speaker #5: Good morning, Fedi. Congratulations on your family addition.
Speaker #4: Thank you very much. I wanted to start on loans. Pretty positive step-up in growth in the second quarter. Really healthy amount of commercial, in particular.
Feddie Strickland: Thank you very much. Wanted to start on loans. Pretty positive step up in growth in Q2, really healthy amount of commercial in particular. Scott, based on your opening comments, is it fair we expect maybe a step up in net new growth in H2?
Feddie Strickland: Thank you very much. Wanted to start on loans. Pretty positive step up in growth in Q2, really healthy amount of commercial in particular. Scott, based on your opening comments, is it fair we expect maybe a step up in net new growth in H2?
Speaker #3: Thank you for our interest in our results. At this time, we welcome any questions you may have.
Speaker #4: I mean, Scott, based on your opening comments, is it fair we expect maybe a step-up in net new growth in the second half?
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Speaker #5: So thanks for the question. And I think if you heard from us in the first quarter, what we said was we thought there was some delays in both loan closings and activity generation in the first quarter, some of that weather-related and some of that just timing.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thanks for the question. I think if you heard from us in Q1, what we said was we thought there were some delays in both loan closings and activity generation in Q1. Some of that weather-related and some of that just timing. I'm not sure we can replicate Q2 growth activity, but I think H1 is indicative of what we're really capable of thinking about for the balance of the year and more on a go-forward trend basis. Really good activity on both CRE and C&I opportunities. Our Q2 was also pretty robust on the indirect auto growth side. Auto sales were really, really strong in Q2, and we participated in that strong growth.
Scott Kingsley: Thanks for the question. I think if you heard from us in Q1, what we said was we thought there were some delays in both loan closings and activity generation in Q1. Some of that weather-related and some of that just timing. I'm not sure we can replicate Q2 growth activity, but I think H1 is indicative of what we're really capable of thinking about for the balance of the year and more on a go-forward trend basis. Really good activity on both CRE and C&I opportunities. Our Q2 was also pretty robust on the indirect auto growth side. Auto sales were really, really strong in Q2, and we participated in that strong growth.
Speaker #1: One moment while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question will come from the line of Fedi Strickland. With Half Day Group, your line is open.
Speaker #5: So I'm not sure we can replicate second-quarter growth activity, but I think the first half is indicative of what we're really capable of thinking about for the balance of the year and more on a go forward trend basis.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, Scott and Annette.
Speaker #5: Good morning, Fedi. Congratulations on your family addition.
Speaker #4: Thank you very much. I wanted to start on loans. Pretty positive step-up in growth in the second quarter. Really healthy amount of commercial, in particular.
Speaker #5: So really good activity on both CRE and CNI opportunities. Our second quarter was also pretty robust on the indirect auto growth side. Auto sales were really, really strong in the second quarter, and we participated in that strong growth.
Speaker #4: I mean, Scott, based on your opening comments, is it fair to expect maybe a step up in net new growth in the second half?
Speaker #5: So I wouldn't think that on the indirect auto side, the second half would be quite as strong as we enjoyed in the second quarter.
Scott A. Kingsley: I wouldn't think that on the indirect auto side, H2 would be quite as strong as we enjoyed in Q2.
Scott Kingsley: I wouldn't think that on the indirect auto side, H2 would be quite as strong as we enjoyed in Q2.
Speaker #5: So thanks for the question. And I think if you heard from us in the first quarter, what we said was we thought there were some delays in both loan closings and activity generation in the first quarter.
Speaker #4: Got it. On indirect auto, I noticed the new origination yields had stepped down a decent bit. Is that just competitive pressures there, or what was more the driver?
Feddie Strickland: Got it. On indirect auto, I noticed the new origination yields have stepped down a decent bit. Is that just competitive pressures there? Or what was more the driver?
Feddie Strickland: Got it. On indirect auto, I noticed the new origination yields have stepped down a decent bit. Is that just competitive pressures there? Or what was more the driver?
Speaker #5: Some of that is weather-related, and some of that is just timing. So I'm not sure we can replicate second-quarter growth activity, but I think the first half is indicative of what we're really capable of, thinking about the balance of the year and more on a go-forward trend basis.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I think your observation is correct. I think that that is competitive. But remember that asset class is really a good spot for us because it's a very fast-turning low-duration portfolio.
Scott A. Kingsley: Yeah, I think your observation is correct. I think that is competitive. Remember, that asset class is really a good spot for us because it's a very fast-turning, low-duration portfolio. If you compare that to other opportunities that we have to deploy some of our net liquidity on our balance sheet, something that has a yield north of 5% and very desirable loss characteristics with a 24- to 36-month expected duration is really positive.
Scott Kingsley: Yeah, I think your observation is correct. I think that is competitive. Remember, that asset class is really a good spot for us because it's a very fast-turning, low-duration portfolio. If you compare that to other opportunities that we have to deploy some of our net liquidity on our balance sheet, something that has a yield north of 5% and very desirable loss characteristics with a 24- to 36-month expected duration is really positive.
Speaker #5: So really good activity on both CRE and C&I opportunities. Our second quarter was also pretty robust on the indirect auto growth side. Auto sales were really, really strong in the second quarter, and we participated in that strong growth.
Speaker #5: And if you compare that to other opportunities that we have to deploy some of our net liquidity on our balance sheet, something that has a yield north of 5% in very, very desirable loss characteristics, with a 24 to 36-month expected duration, is really, really positive.
Speaker #5: So I wouldn't think that on the indirect auto side, the second half would be quite as strong as we enjoyed in the second quarter.
Speaker #4: Got it. On indirect auto, I noticed the new origination yields had stepped down a decent bit. Is that just competitive pressures there, or what was more the driver?
Speaker #4: Got it. And if I can just squeeze in one more, just wanted to ask maybe where you see the most opportunity for organic fill-in across the footprint.
Feddie Strickland: Got it. If I can just squeeze in one more, just wanted to ask maybe where you see the most opportunity for organic fill-in across the footprint. I think you talked about maybe some opportunities in New England last quarter and just curious if you're seeing maybe some areas where you could pick up talent.
Feddie Strickland: Got it. If I can just squeeze in one more, just wanted to ask maybe where you see the most opportunity for organic fill-in across the footprint. I think you talked about maybe some opportunities in New England last quarter and just curious if you're seeing maybe some areas where you could pick up talent.
Speaker #4: I think you talked about maybe some opportunities in New England last quarter and just curious if you're seeing maybe some areas where you can pick up talent.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I think your observation is correct. I think that that is competitive. But remember that asset class is really a good spot for us because it's a very fast-turning low-duration portfolio.
Speaker #5: Yeah. So good question again. And Joe and his team's on the bank side have really been focused on that in a number of spots where we've had activities, whether they be other M&A activities, where there's been some disruption or, to your point, just sort of natural fill-in growth.
Scott A. Kingsley: Yeah. Good question again. Joe and his teams on the bank side have really been focused on that in a number of spots where we've had activities, whether they be other M&A activities where there's been some disruption, or to your point, just sort of natural fill-in growth. We've made some commitments in south of Portland. We had a new branch that we opened earlier in the year, and we have plans to do another one in early 2027. We're looking at some continued opportunities in Southern New Hampshire again to better place ourselves from a branding standpoint in those markets because they're doing quite well at the same. I think we've also made some announcements that we've committed to two sites in the greater Rochester market, and in fairness, are probably looking at a couple more.
Scott Kingsley: Yeah. Good question again. Joe and his teams on the bank side have really been focused on that in a number of spots where we've had activities, whether they be other M&A activities where there's been some disruption, or to your point, just sort of natural fill-in growth. We've made some commitments in south of Portland. We had a new branch that we opened earlier in the year, and we have plans to do another one in early 2027. We're looking at some continued opportunities in Southern New Hampshire again to better place ourselves from a branding standpoint in those markets because they're doing quite well at the same. I think we've also made some announcements that we've committed to two sites in the greater Rochester market, and in fairness, are probably looking at a couple more.
Speaker #5: And if you compare that to other opportunities that we have to deploy some of our net liquidity on our balance sheet, something that has a yield north of 5% and very, very desirable loss characteristics with a 24- to 36-month expected duration is really, really positive.
Speaker #5: So we've made some commitments in south of Portland, we had a new branch that we opened earlier in the year, and we have plans to do another one in early 2027.
Speaker #4: Got it. And if I can just squeeze in one more, I just wanted to ask where you see the most opportunity for organic fill-in across the footprint.
Speaker #5: We're looking at some continued opportunities in southern New Hampshire, again, to better place ourselves from a branding standpoint in those markets because they're doing quite well at the same.
Speaker #4: I think you talked about maybe some opportunities in New England last quarter and just curious if you're seeing maybe some areas where you can pick up talent.
Speaker #5: I think we've also made some announcements that we've committed to two sites in the greater Rochester market. And in fairness, our probably looking at a couple more and we did not have representation sort of in the city or the city west side in Rochester.
Speaker #5: Yeah. So good question again. And Joe and his team's on the bank side have really been focused on that in a number of spots where we've had activities, whether they be other M&A activities, whether there's been some disruption, or to your point, just sort of natural fill-in growth.
Scott A. Kingsley: We did not have representation sort of in the city or the city west side in Rochester, we were focused on that. There are some other opportunities in some communities south of Rochester that really fit our business model well. We'll spend some additional time looking there. Broadly, filling in what is now a Buffalo, New York to Portland, Maine, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania to Burlington franchise. There's plenty of opportunities for enhancement of that from a geographic fill-in. We do think that we're landing some additional people from banks our size and larger who think that our platform is something that they can thrive in and grow with.
Scott Kingsley: We did not have representation sort of in the city or the city west side in Rochester, we were focused on that. There are some other opportunities in some communities south of Rochester that really fit our business model well. We'll spend some additional time looking there. Broadly, filling in what is now a Buffalo, New York to Portland, Maine, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania to Burlington franchise. There's plenty of opportunities for enhancement of that from a geographic fill-in. We do think that we're landing some additional people from banks our size and larger who think that our platform is something that they can thrive in and grow with.
Speaker #5: So we were focused on that. There's some other opportunities and some community south of Rochester that really fit our business model well. So we'll spend some additional time looking there.
Speaker #5: So we've made some commitments in south of Portland, we had a new branch that we opened earlier in the year, and we have plans to do another one in early 2027.
Speaker #5: Broadly, filling in what is now a buffalo New York to Portland, Maine, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania to Burlington, franchise, there's plenty of opportunities for enhancement of that from a geographic fill-in.
Speaker #5: We're looking at some continued opportunities in southern New Hampshire. Again, to better place ourselves from a branding standpoint in those markets because they're doing quite well at the same.
Speaker #5: And we do think that we're landing some additional people from banks our size and larger who think that our platform is something that they can thrive in and grow with.
Speaker #5: I think we've also made some announcements that we've committed to two sites in the greater Rochester market. And, in fairness, are probably looking at a couple more, and we did not have representation in the city or the city west side in Rochester.
Speaker #4: All right, great. Thank you for the color and for hosting us today.
Feddie Strickland: All right, great. Thank you for the color and for hosting us today.
Feddie Strickland: All right, great. Thank you for the color and for hosting us today.
Speaker #5: Appreciate the questions.
Scott A. Kingsley: Appreciate the questions.
Scott Kingsley: Appreciate the questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Matthew Brees with Stevens. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question, and that will come from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question, and that will come from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: So we were focused on that. There are some other opportunities in some communities south of Rochester that really fit our business model well, so we'll spend some additional time looking there.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning.
Matthew Breese: Hey, good morning.
Matthew Breese: Hey, good morning.
Speaker #5: Morning, Matt.
Speaker #6: Morning.
Scott A. Kingsley: Good morning.
Scott Kingsley: Good morning.
Scott A. Kingsley: Good morning.
Annette Burns: Good morning.
Speaker #4: You talked about the margin, the yield curve a little bit. Just curious, what the new outlook is from here and then within that kind of expectations for deposit costs and loan yields given intensifying competition and some of the new origination data you provided in the deck.
Matthew Breese: Annette, you talked about the margin, the yield curve a little bit. Just curious what the NIM outlook is from here and then within that kind of expectations for deposit costs and loan yields given intensifying competition and some of the new origination data you provided in the deck.
Matthew Breese: Annette, you talked about the margin, the yield curve a little bit. Just curious what the NIM outlook is from here and then within that kind of expectations for deposit costs and loan yields given intensifying competition and some of the new origination data you provided in the deck.
Speaker #5: Broadly, filling in what is now a Buffalo, New York to Portland, Maine; Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania to Burlington franchise, there's plenty of opportunities for enhancement of that from a geographic fill-in.
Speaker #5: And we do think that we're landing some additional people from banks our size and larger who think that our platform is something that they can thrive in and grow with.
Speaker #6: Sure, Matt. Happy to unpack that for you. So when we think about looking forward, our originations are probably going to be probably more concentrated in commercial, a little bit in resi mortgage, and those still have the opportunity to reprice upward.
Annette L. Burns: Sure, Matt. Happy to unpack that for you. When we think about looking forward, our originations are probably going to be more concentrated in commercial, a little bit in resi mortgage. Those still have the opportunity to reprice upward. We do think that there is competition in our market. Some of that upward opportunity is probably going to be influenced by some tightening or some acquisition costs related to deposit costs. Given where the yield curve is today, we still think there's some opportunity for some modest margin improvement over the next couple of quarters just given where the interest rates are today. Kind of stable to a few positive points of margin expansion over the next couple of quarters.
Annette Burns: Sure, Matt. Happy to unpack that for you. When we think about looking forward, our originations are probably going to be more concentrated in commercial, a little bit in resi mortgage. Those still have the opportunity to reprice upward. We do think that there is competition in our market. Some of that upward opportunity is probably going to be influenced by some tightening or some acquisition costs related to deposit costs. Given where the yield curve is today, we still think there's some opportunity for some modest margin improvement over the next couple of quarters just given where the interest rates are today. Kind of stable to a few positive points of margin expansion over the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #4: All right, great. Thank you for the color and for hosting us today.
Speaker #5: Appreciate the questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Matthew Brees with Stephens. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: We do think that there is competition in our market. So some of that upward opportunity is probably going to be influenced by some tightening or some acquisition costs related to deposit costs.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning.
Speaker #5: Good morning, Matt.
Speaker #7: Good morning.
Speaker #6: Annette, you talked about the margin, the yield curve a little bit. Just curious, what the new outlook is from here and then within that kind of expectations for deposit costs and loan yields given intensifying competition and some of the new origination data you provided in the deck.
Speaker #6: But given where the yield curve is today, we still think there's some opportunity for some modest margin improvement over the next couple of quarters, just given where the interest rates are today.
Speaker #6: So kind of stable to a few positive points of margin expansion over the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #7: Sure, Matt. Happy to unpack that for you. So, when we think about looking forward, our originations are probably going to be more concentrated in commercial, with a little bit in resi mortgage.
Speaker #4: If you look at the spot cost deposits, a period N versus the average, are you starting to see an inflection there, or do you anticipate one by the end of the year?
Matthew Breese: If you look at the spot cost deposits at period end versus the average, are you starting to see an inflection there, or do you anticipate one by the end of the year?
Matthew Breese: If you look at the spot cost deposits at period end versus the average, are you starting to see an inflection there, or do you anticipate one by the end of the year?
Speaker #7: And those still have the opportunity to reprice upward. We do think that there is competition in our market, so some of that upward opportunity is probably going to be influenced by some tightening, or some acquisition costs related to deposit costs.
Speaker #5: It's a really good question. And that I'll start on this one. Spot costs and where we are are so close to what the quarterly results were.
Scott A. Kingsley: It's a really good question. Annette, I'll start on this one. Spot costs and where we are are so close to what the quarterly results were. In terms of initiating new customer relationships, they are coming with a slightly higher cost on a blended basis, which makes it so incumbent on us to continue to open no-cost or low-cost checking. We're focused on that. We have really good programs for that. We've grown those balances this year productively while we've been able to sort of separate ourselves from some higher-yielding CD, whether that's on the personal side or on the business side.
Scott Kingsley: It's a really good question. Annette, I'll start on this one. Spot costs and where we are are so close to what the quarterly results were. In terms of initiating new customer relationships, they are coming with a slightly higher cost on a blended basis, which makes it so incumbent on us to continue to open no-cost or low-cost checking. We're focused on that. We have really good programs for that. We've grown those balances this year productively while we've been able to sort of separate ourselves from some higher-yielding CD, whether that's on the personal side or on the business side.
Speaker #5: But in terms of initiating new customer relationships, they are coming with a slightly higher cost on a blended basis. Which makes it so incumbent on us to continue to open no-cost or low-cost checking.
Speaker #7: But given where the yield curve is today, we still think there's some opportunity for some modest margin improvement over the next couple of quarters, just given where interest rates are today.
Speaker #5: And we're focused on that. We have really good programs for that. We've grown those balances. This year, productively, while we've been able to sort of separate ourselves from some higher-yielding CD, whether that's on the personal side or on the business side.
Speaker #7: So, kind of stable to a few positive points of margin expansion over the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #6: If you look at the spot cost of deposits in period N versus the average, are you starting to see an inflection there, or do you anticipate one by the end of the year?
Speaker #5: So I think the direction we're going to that side I think our markets are definitely competitive, and I think there's other people that have looked at our markets and said, not only us, but some of our competition have really effectively managed funding costs for a long period of time.
Scott A. Kingsley: I think the direction we're going to that side, I think our markets are definitely competitive, and I think there's other people that have looked at our markets and said Not only us, but some of our competition have really effectively managed funding costs for a long period of time. There might be some opportunities for somebody else from a share take standpoint. We're actually seeing really responsible activities across most of our markets. If somebody's going to try to take a little bit of share, that has not been widespread. I think quite frankly, like us, most people are tactically managing their funding costs on a very, very granular level.
Scott Kingsley: I think the direction we're going to that side, I think our markets are definitely competitive, and I think there's other people that have looked at our markets and said Not only us, but some of our competition have really effectively managed funding costs for a long period of time. There might be some opportunities for somebody else from a share take standpoint. We're actually seeing really responsible activities across most of our markets. If somebody's going to try to take a little bit of share, that has not been widespread. I think quite frankly, like us, most people are tactically managing their funding costs on a very, very granular level.
Speaker #5: It's a really good question. And I'll start on this one. Spot costs and where we are are so close to what the quarterly results were.
Speaker #5: So there might be some opportunities for somebody else from a share-take standpoint. But we're actually seeing really responsible activities across most of our markets.
Speaker #5: But in terms of initiating new customer relationships, they are coming at a slightly higher cost on a blended basis, which makes it incumbent on us to continue to open no-cost or low-cost checking.
Speaker #5: So that person who has if somebody's going to try to take a little bit of share, that has not been widespread. And I think, quite frankly, like us, most people are tactically managing their funding costs on a very, very granular level.
Speaker #5: And we're focused on that. We have really good programs for that. We've grown those balances. This year, productively, while we've been able to sort of separate ourselves from some higher-yielding CD, whether that's on the personal side or on the business side.
Speaker #4: Understood. Okay. A couple others. First, just expenses came in a little bit better, and I was expecting. And I guess it shouldn't be a surprise to occupancy costs were down quite a bit given the winter.
Matthew Breese: Understood. Okay. Couple others. First, just expenses came in a little bit better than I was expecting, and I guess it shouldn't be a surprise. Occupancy costs were down quite a bit given the winter. Maybe just talk a little bit about the ins and outs this quarter and expectations for the remainder of the year? I think we had talked about maybe 3% year-over-year growth, and maybe just talk a little bit about that?
Matthew Breese: Understood. Okay. Couple others. First, just expenses came in a little bit better than I was expecting, and I guess it shouldn't be a surprise. Occupancy costs were down quite a bit given the winter. Maybe just talk a little bit about the ins and outs this quarter and expectations for the remainder of the year? I think we had talked about maybe 3% year-over-year growth, and maybe just talk a little bit about that?
Speaker #5: So I think the direction we’re going to that side, I think our markets are definitely competitive, and I think there are other people that have looked at our markets and said not only us, but some of our competition have really effectively managed funding costs for a long period of time.
Speaker #4: Maybe just talk a little bit about the ins and outs this quarter and expectations for the remainder of the year. I think we had talked about maybe 3% year-over-year growth, and maybe just talk a little bit about that.
Speaker #5: So there might be some opportunities for somebody else from a share-take standpoint, but we're actually seeing really responsible activities across most of our markets.
Speaker #6: Yeah. Yeah, sure, Matt. So as a reminder, probably the back half of the year, we're going to see an additional payroll day. So that's going to influence the next two quarters.
Annette L. Burns: Yeah. Sure, Matt. As a reminder, probably the H2, we're going to see an additional payroll day. That's going to influence the next two quarters. Probably seeing some increased activities associated with just revenue growth in the market and the associated incentive compensation with that, and as well as some technology investments. We'll probably see some creep in our OpEx on a quarter-to-quarter basis, but still in that, two and a half% to 3% target for the year.
Annette Burns: Yeah. Sure, Matt. As a reminder, probably the H2, we're going to see an additional payroll day. That's going to influence the next two quarters. Probably seeing some increased activities associated with just revenue growth in the market and the associated incentive compensation with that, and as well as some technology investments. We'll probably see some creep in our OpEx on a quarter-to-quarter basis, but still in that, two and a half% to 3% target for the year.
Speaker #5: So, that person who—if somebody is going to try to take a little bit of share—that has not been widespread. And I think, quite frankly, like us, most people are tactically managing their funding costs on a very, very granular level.
Speaker #6: And then probably seeing some increased activities associated with just revenue growth in the market and the associated incentive compensation with that. And as well as some technology investments.
Speaker #6: Understood. Okay. A couple of others. First, just expenses came in a little bit better than I was expecting. And I guess it shouldn't be a surprise—occupancy costs were down quite a bit given the winter.
Speaker #6: So we'll probably see some creep in our opex on a quarter-to-quarter basis. But still in that two and a half to 3% target for the year.
Speaker #6: Maybe just talk a little bit about the ins and outs this quarter and expectations for the remainder of the year. I think we had talked about maybe 3% year-over-year growth, and maybe just talk a little bit about that.
Speaker #4: Okay. And then the last one is just it struck me as odd just given market dynamics and wealth management fees were down a little bit this quarter.
Matthew Breese: Okay. The last one is just, it struck me as odd, just given market dynamics, that wealth management fees were down a little bit this quarter. A lot of your peers are kind of up, and I was curious if there was anything one-time in there or unusual in there, or maybe just timing based on the way fees are calculated. That's all I had. Thanks.
Matthew Breese: Okay. The last one is just, it struck me as odd, just given market dynamics, that wealth management fees were down a little bit this quarter. A lot of your peers are kind of up, and I was curious if there was anything one-time in there or unusual in there, or maybe just timing based on the way fees are calculated. That's all I had. Thanks.
Speaker #4: A lot of your peers are kind of up, and I was curious if there was anything one time in there or unusual in there, or maybe just timing based on the way fees are calculated.
Speaker #7: Yeah, sure, Matt. So, as a reminder, probably in the back half of the year, we're going to see an additional payroll day. So that's going to influence the next two quarters.
Speaker #4: That's all I had. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Yeah, great question. There was some timing related to some activity-based fees, which were a little bit stronger in the last two quarters than what we thought in this quarter.
Annette L. Burns: Yeah. Great question. There was some timing related to some activity-based fees, which were a little bit stronger in the last two quarters than what we saw in this quarter. As well as some personnel open positions looking to hire. That had a little bit of impact on our expectations around production. That had an influence on the quarter as well for wealth management.
Annette Burns: Yeah. Great question. There was some timing related to some activity-based fees, which were a little bit stronger in the last two quarters than what we saw in this quarter. As well as some personnel open positions looking to hire. That had a little bit of impact on our expectations around production. That had an influence on the quarter as well for wealth management.
Speaker #7: And then probably seeing some increased activities associated with just revenue growth in the market and the associated incentive compensation with that. And as well as some technology investments.
Speaker #6: As well as some personnel open positions looking to hire. So that had a little bit of impact on our expectations around production. So that had an influence on the quarter as well for wealth management.
Speaker #7: So we'll probably see some creep in our opex on a quarter-to-quarter basis. But still in that two-and-a-half to 3% target for the year.
Speaker #6: Okay. And then the last one—just, it struck me as odd, just given market dynamics, that wealth management fees were down a little bit this quarter.
Speaker #4: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Matthew Breese: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Matthew Breese: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Matt.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thanks, Matt.
Scott Kingsley: Thanks, Matt.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And our next question will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: A lot of your peers are kind of up, and I was curious if there was anything one-time in there or unusual in there, or maybe just timing based on the way fees are calculated.
Speaker #7: Hey. I understand deposits decline a bit on seasonality. But what's kind of your thoughts on the deposit pipeline going forward? How are you converting your strong C&I growth into deposits?
Manuel Navas: Hey. I understand deposits declined a bit on seasonality. What's kind of your thoughts on the deposit pipeline going forward? How are you converting your strong C&I growth into deposits? Anything you could add on color on that front?
Manuel Navas: Hey. I understand deposits declined a bit on seasonality. What's kind of your thoughts on the deposit pipeline going forward? How are you converting your strong C&I growth into deposits? Anything you could add on color on that front?
Speaker #6: That's all I had. Thanks.
Speaker #7: Yeah, great question. There was some timing related to some activity-based fees, which were a little bit stronger in the last two quarters than what we thought in this quarter.
Speaker #7: Anything you could add on color on that front?
Speaker #7: As well as some personnel open positions looking to hire. So that had a little bit of an impact on our expectations around production. So that had an influence on the quarter as well for wealth management.
Speaker #5: Yeah. So thanks for the question. I'll start with that. So you're spot on. C&I growth opens up that opportunity for us to introduce our very robust treasury management platform.
Scott A. Kingsley: Yeah. Thanks for the question. I'll start with that. You're spot on. C&I growth opens up that opportunity for us to introduce our very robust treasury management platform. Our success rate relative to that is very, very high. Our customers think that that's a very valuable tool for them. Does help them manage their funds. At some points in time, when we see customers move certain of their excess balances into something with a little bit higher yield, we shouldn't be surprised because the tool's, quite frankly, very intuitive for that. That being said, makes the relationship very, very sticky, and with that focus on the C&I side. Quite frankly, we think the opportunity to capitalize on deposit opportunities is probably every bit as good as it is on the lending side.
Scott Kingsley: Yeah. Thanks for the question. I'll start with that. You're spot on. C&I growth opens up that opportunity for us to introduce our very robust treasury management platform. Our success rate relative to that is very, very high. Our customers think that that's a very valuable tool for them. Does help them manage their funds. At some points in time, when we see customers move certain of their excess balances into something with a little bit higher yield, we shouldn't be surprised because the tool's, quite frankly, very intuitive for that. That being said, makes the relationship very, very sticky, and with that focus on the C&I side. Quite frankly, we think the opportunity to capitalize on deposit opportunities is probably every bit as good as it is on the lending side.
Speaker #5: And our success rate relative to that is very, very high. So our customers think that that's a very valuable tool for them. It does help them manage their funds.
Speaker #6: Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Matt.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And our next question will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: So at some points in time, when we see customers move certain of their excess balances into something with a little bit higher yield, we shouldn't be surprised because the tools, quite frankly, are very intuitive for that.
Speaker #8: Hey, I understand the deposits decline a bit on seasonality. But what's kind of your thoughts on the deposit pipeline going forward? How are you converting your strong CNI growth into deposits?
Speaker #5: But that being said, it makes the relationship very, very sticky. And with that focus on the C&I side, quite frankly, we think the opportunity to capitalize on deposit opportunities is probably ever a bit as good as it is on the lending side.
Speaker #8: Anything you could add on color on that front?
Speaker #5: Yeah, so thanks for the question. I'll start with that. You're spot on—CNI growth opens up the opportunity for us to introduce our very robust treasury management platform.
Manuel Navas: Do you have a sense of how much was funded so far, and how much could be funded in the future? Just kind of your projections around deposits that follow this loan growth.
Manuel Navas: Do you have a sense of how much was funded so far, and how much could be funded in the future? Just kind of your projections around deposits that follow this loan growth.
Speaker #7: Do you have a sense of how much was funded so far and how much could be funded in the future? Just kind of your projections around the deposits that follow this loan growth?
Speaker #5: And our success rate relative to that is very, very high, so our customers think that that's a very valuable tool for them. It does help them manage their funds.
Speaker #5: Yeah. It's a bit of a when you open a new relationship, it's a bit of a longer cycle. I mean, I think the world has sort of commented to this, that it takes a while to move your relationship, especially a business banking relationship or a commercial relationship.
Scott A. Kingsley: Yeah. When you open a new relationship, it's a bit of a longer cycle. I think the world has sort of commented to this, that it takes a while to move your relationship, especially a business banking relationship or a commercial relationship. We do think that there's more to come with the success of new account openings. What's that period from an elongation standpoint? Probably measured in quarters, not weeks and days. There should be more there. I think we kind of look at it this way to say, net new accounts on the commercial and business banking side will ultimately result in deposit growth over time. As customers tend to have productive, profitable businesses, they tend to leave a lot of that in the business for future investment opportunities. We do think that's an important one.
Scott Kingsley: Yeah. When you open a new relationship, it's a bit of a longer cycle. I think the world has sort of commented to this, that it takes a while to move your relationship, especially a business banking relationship or a commercial relationship. We do think that there's more to come with the success of new account openings. What's that period from an elongation standpoint? Probably measured in quarters, not weeks and days. There should be more there. I think we kind of look at it this way to say, net new accounts on the commercial and business banking side will ultimately result in deposit growth over time. As customers tend to have productive, profitable businesses, they tend to leave a lot of that in the business for future investment opportunities. We do think that's an important one.
Speaker #5: So at some points in time, when we see customers move certain excess balances into something with a little bit higher yield, we shouldn't be surprised, because the tools, quite frankly, are very intuitive for that.
Speaker #5: So we do think that there's more to come with the success of new account openings. What's that period from an elongation standpoint, probably measured in quarters, not recent days, but there should be more there.
Speaker #5: But that being said, it makes the relationship very, very sticky. And with that focus, on the CNI side, quite frankly, we think the opportunity to capitalize on deposit opportunities is probably ever a bit as good as it is on the lending side.
Speaker #5: I think we kind of look at it this way to say, net new accounts on the commercial and business banking side, we'll ultimately result in deposit growth.
Speaker #8: Do you have a sense of how much was funded so far and how much could be funded in the future? Just kind of your projections around the deposits that follow this loan growth?
Speaker #5: Over time, because as customers tend to have productive, profitable businesses, they tend to leave a lot of that in the business for future investment opportunities.
Speaker #5: Yeah. It's a bit of a when you open a new relationship, it's a bit of a longer cycle. I think the world has sort of commented to this, that it takes a while to move your relationship, especially a business banking relationship or a commercial relationship.
Speaker #5: So we do think that's an important one. It doesn't really matter whether it's the commercial side of the house or the personal side of the house.
Scott A. Kingsley: It doesn't really matter whether it's the commercial side of the house or the personal side of the house. Checking is the lead product. That's what we're really good at, and that's what we're really focused on. It's how we incentivize our folks. I think we feel really good about the initiatives that are in place to continue to grow there.
Scott Kingsley: It doesn't really matter whether it's the commercial side of the house or the personal side of the house. Checking is the lead product. That's what we're really good at, and that's what we're really focused on. It's how we incentivize our folks. I think we feel really good about the initiatives that are in place to continue to grow there.
Speaker #5: Checking is the lead product. And that's what we're really good at, and that's what we're really focused on, is how we incentivize our folks.
Speaker #5: So, we do think that there's more to come with the success of new account openings. What's that period, from an elongation standpoint? Probably measured in quarters, not weeks and days.
Speaker #5: So I think we feel really good about the initiatives that are in place to continue to grow there.
Speaker #4: I appreciate that. Thank you. I'll jump back into the queue.
Manuel Navas: I appreciate that. Thank you. I'll jump back into the queue.
Manuel Navas: I appreciate that. Thank you. I'll jump back into the queue.
Speaker #5: But there should be more there. I think we kind of look at it this way: to say that net new accounts on the commercial and business banking side will ultimately result in deposit growth.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thank you.
Scott Kingsley: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Over time, because as customers tend to have productive, profitable businesses, they tend to leave a lot of that in the business for future investment opportunities.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 11. And our next question will come from the line of Jacob Savello, with DA Davidson.
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Speaker #5: So, we do think that's an important one. It doesn't really matter whether it's the commercial side of the house or the personal side of the house.
Speaker #1: Your line is open.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, Scott. Good morning, Annette.
Jake Civiello: Hey, good morning, Scott. Good morning, Annette.
Jake Civiello: Hey, good morning, Scott. Good morning, Annette.
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, Jake.
Scott A. Kingsley: Hey, good morning, Jake.
Scott Kingsley: Hey, good morning, Jake.
Speaker #6: Good morning.
Speaker #5: Checking is the lead product. And that's what we're really good at, and that's what we're really focused on. It's how we incentivize our folks.
Speaker #4: Last quarter, you talked about maybe a dozen customers securing contracts associated with a Micron project. And I heard your positive take on the pace of construction progress in your prepared remarks.
Annette L. Burns: Morning.
Annette Burns: Morning.
Jake Civiello: Last quarter, you talked about maybe a dozen customers securing contracts associated with the Micron project. I heard your positive take on the pace of construction progress in your prepared remarks. Do you have any other thoughts on an update on the direct customer impact this quarter?
Jake Civiello: Last quarter, you talked about maybe a dozen customers securing contracts associated with the Micron project. I heard your positive take on the pace of construction progress in your prepared remarks. Do you have any other thoughts on an update on the direct customer impact this quarter?
Speaker #5: So I think we feel really good about the initiatives that are in place to continue to grow there.
Speaker #4: But do you have any other thoughts on an update on the direct customer impact this quarter?
Speaker #8: I appreciate that. Thank you. I'll hold. I'll jump back into the queue.
Speaker #5: Good question. I don't, Jake. I think it's pretty much the same. Those things that because it's site preparation and the early stages of construction, I think those gains for our customers continue.
Scott A. Kingsley: Good question. I don't, Jake. I think it's pretty much the same. Those things that because it's site preparation in the early stages of construction, I think those gains for our customers continue. They continue to work through that. I think what's probably next in line is this continued focus or this renewed focus on workforce planning. Whether that's on the training side, we have some customers who provide those types of services, or if it's on the housing development side. There's been a community development fund that has been funded by several constituencies in our markets, including us. That's getting a little bit more attention as some of the dates for the need for additional people in the marketplace become slightly more certain. The folks from Micron really haven't changed their outline to radically different. It's site preparation now. They're pouring a little cement.
Scott Kingsley: Good question. I don't, Jake. I think it's pretty much the same. Those things that because it's site preparation in the early stages of construction, I think those gains for our customers continue. They continue to work through that. I think what's probably next in line is this continued focus or this renewed focus on workforce planning. Whether that's on the training side, we have some customers who provide those types of services, or if it's on the housing development side. There's been a community development fund that has been funded by several constituencies in our markets, including us. That's getting a little bit more attention as some of the dates for the need for additional people in the marketplace become slightly more certain. The folks from Micron really haven't changed their outline to radically different. It's site preparation now. They're pouring a little cement.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 11. And our next question will come from the line of Jacob Savello, with DA Davidson.
Speaker #5: They continue to work through that. I think what's probably next in line is this continued focus or this renewed focus on workforce planning. So whether that's on the training side, we have some customers who provide those types of services, or if it's on the housing development side.
Speaker #1: Your line is open.
Speaker #8: Hey, good morning, Scott. Good morning, Annette.
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, Jake.
Speaker #7: Good morning.
Speaker #8: Last quarter, you talked about maybe a dozen customers securing contracts associated with a Micron project. And I heard your positive take on the pace of construction progress in your prepared remarks.
Speaker #5: So there's been a community development fund that has been funded by several constituencies in our markets, including us. And so that's getting a little bit more attention as some of the dates for the need for additional people in the marketplace become slightly more certain.
Speaker #8: But do you have any other thoughts on an update on the direct customer impact this quarter?
Speaker #5: Good question. I don't, Jake. I think it's pretty much the same. Those things that because it's site preparation and the early stages of construction, I think those gains for our customers continue.
Speaker #5: The folks from Micon really haven't changed their outline too radically different. It's site preparation now. They're pouring a little cement. It's steel in the ground next year.
Speaker #5: They continue to work through that. I think what's probably next in line is this continued focus, or this renewed focus, on workforce planning. So whether that's on the training side—we have some customers who provide those types of services—or if it's on the housing development side.
Scott A. Kingsley: It's steel in the ground next year to build up toward production in 2030. That really hasn't changed. To your point, additional contracts. Micron has hired the national firm Bechtel to manage the build-out of the actual chip fab facility itself. They're beginning to start to do subcontracting awards, and a lot of those awards to date are being awarded to businesses in Central and Upstate New York.
Scott Kingsley: It's steel in the ground next year to build up toward production in 2030. That really hasn't changed. To your point, additional contracts. Micron has hired the national firm Bechtel to manage the build-out of the actual chip fab facility itself. They're beginning to start to do subcontracting awards, and a lot of those awards to date are being awarded to businesses in Central and Upstate New York.
Speaker #5: To build up toward production in 2030. So that really hasn't changed. But to your point, additional contracts the Micron has hired the national firm Bechtel to manage the build-out of the actual chip fab facility itself.
Speaker #5: So there's been a community development fund that has been funded by several constituencies in our markets, including us. And so that's getting a little bit more attention as some of the dates for the need for additional people in the marketplace become slightly more certain.
Speaker #5: So they're beginning to start to do subcontracting awards. And a lot of those awards to date are being awarded to businesses in central and upstate New York.
Speaker #4: No, that's great to hear. Is there anything anecdotal that you're hearing with respect to workforce housing for any of the necessary construction housing for the influx of people that are coming over the course of the next couple of years?
Jake Civiello: No, that's great to hear. Is there anything anecdotal that you're hearing with respect to workforce housing for any of the necessary construction housing for the influx of people that are coming over the course of the next couple of years?
Jake Civiello: No, that's great to hear. Is there anything anecdotal that you're hearing with respect to workforce housing for any of the necessary construction housing for the influx of people that are coming over the course of the next couple of years?
Speaker #5: The folks from Micon really haven't changed their outline too radically. It's site preparation now. They're pouring a little cement. It's steel in the ground next year.
Speaker #5: That's a good question, Jake. And what we're hearing today is that we just know that our region historically has been a little slow to approve projects.
Scott A. Kingsley: That's a good question, Jake. What we're hearing today is that we just know that our region historically has been a little slow to approve projects. Greater New York State or Upstate New York has that reputation, true or not, but it's something that the folks from an industrial development standpoint are working on diligently. We haven't seen the launch of any real substantive new tracks of housing. We're getting opportunities to look at plans for some multi-family housing in the market. Similar to what we experienced in the greater Saratoga market with the build-out of GlobalFoundries over the last five to seven years.
Scott Kingsley: That's a good question, Jake. What we're hearing today is that we just know that our region historically has been a little slow to approve projects. Greater New York State or Upstate New York has that reputation, true or not, but it's something that the folks from an industrial development standpoint are working on diligently. We haven't seen the launch of any real substantive new tracks of housing. We're getting opportunities to look at plans for some multi-family housing in the market. Similar to what we experienced in the greater Saratoga market with the build-out of GlobalFoundries over the last five to seven years.
Speaker #5: To build up toward production in 2030, so that really hasn't changed. But to your point, additional contracts—the Micron has hired the national firm Bechtel to manage the build-out of the actual chip fab facility itself.
Speaker #5: Greater New York State or upstate New York has that reputation true or not, but it's something that the folks from an industrial development standpoint are working on diligently.
Speaker #5: So they're beginning to start to do subcontracting awards. And a lot of those awards to date are being awarded to businesses in central and upstate New York.
Speaker #5: We haven't seen the launch of any real substantive new tracks of housing but we're getting opportunities to look at plans for some multifamily housing in the market.
Speaker #8: No, that's great. Great to hear. Is there anything anecdotal that you're hearing with respect to workforce housing for any of the necessary construction housing for the influx of people that are coming over the course of the next couple of years?
Speaker #5: Similar to what we experienced in the greater Saratoga market with the build-out of Global Foundries over the last five to seven years.
Speaker #5: That's a good question, Jake. What we're hearing today is that we know our region has historically been a little slow to approve projects.
Speaker #4: Okay. Great. Thank you, Scott. Shifting gears, any thoughts on the sequential increase in the securities portfolio on an absolute dollar basis? And then do you expect that the yield on that portfolio can continue to increase in the back half of the year given your current purchase yields?
Jake Civiello: Okay, great. Thank you, Scott. Shifting gears, any thoughts on the sequential increase in the securities portfolio on an absolute dollar basis? Do you expect that the yield on that portfolio can continue to increase in the H2 given your current purchase yields?
Jake Civiello: Okay, great. Thank you, Scott. Shifting gears, any thoughts on the sequential increase in the securities portfolio on an absolute dollar basis? Do you expect that the yield on that portfolio can continue to increase in the H2 given your current purchase yields?
Speaker #5: Greater New York State, or upstate New York, has that reputation—true or not—but it's something that the folks from an industrial development standpoint are working on diligently.
Speaker #5: We haven't seen the launch of any real substantive new tracts of housing, but we're getting opportunities to look at plans for some multifamily housing in the market.
Speaker #5: So where we are, we did do a little bit of I don't want to call it pre-investing, but we knew what our cash flows were for 2026.
Scott A. Kingsley: Where we are, we did do a little bit of, I don't want to call it pre-investing, but we knew what our cash flows were for 2026. We did take the opportunity to get in front of that. We do think that our growth activity in the Q2 is not likely to represent where we are in the Q3 and the Q4 from a net growth in the portfolio. That being said, where the portfolio sits today, we're in that ballpark of $350 to $400 million of expected cash flows on a 12-month basis. Because we did not do a restructuring, new yields are better than portfolio yields.
Scott Kingsley: Where we are, we did do a little bit of, I don't want to call it pre-investing, but we knew what our cash flows were for 2026. We did take the opportunity to get in front of that. We do think that our growth activity in the Q2 is not likely to represent where we are in the Q3 and the Q4 from a net growth in the portfolio. That being said, where the portfolio sits today, we're in that ballpark of $350 to $400 million of expected cash flows on a 12-month basis. Because we did not do a restructuring, new yields are better than portfolio yields.
Speaker #5: And we did take the opportunity to get in front of that. So we do think that our activity, our growth activity in the second quarter is not likely to represent where we are in the third and the fourth from a net growth in the portfolio.
Speaker #5: Similar to what we experienced in the greater Saratoga market with the build-out of GlobalFoundries over the last five to seven years.
Speaker #5: That being said, where the portfolio sits today, we're in that ballpark of 350 to 400 million dollars of expected cash flows on a 12-month basis.
Speaker #8: Okay. Great. Thank you, Scott. Shifting gears, any thoughts on the sequential increase in the securities portfolio on an absolute dollar basis? And then do you expect that the yield on that portfolio can continue to increase in the back half of the year given your current purchase yields?
Speaker #5: And because we did not do a restructuring, new yields are better than portfolio yields.
Speaker #4: So it's not unreasonable to think that the average yield on that portfolio will continue to increase assuming rates stay stable?
Jake Civiello: It's not unreasonable to think that the average yield on that portfolio will continue to increase, assuming rates stay stable?
Jake Civiello: It's not unreasonable to think that the average yield on that portfolio will continue to increase, assuming rates stay stable?
Speaker #5: So where we are, we did do a little bit of—I don't want to call it pre-investing—but we knew what our cash flows were for 2026.
Speaker #5: Oh, for sure, Jake. Absolutely.
Scott A. Kingsley: Oh, for sure, Jake. Absolutely.
Scott Kingsley: Oh, for sure, Jake. Absolutely.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Okay. And last question for me. I know you spoke a bit about expenses already, but it was nice to see the efficiency ratio back below 60% in the quarter.
Jake Civiello: Yeah. Okay. Last question from me. I know you spoke a bit about expenses already, it was nice to see the efficiency ratio back below 60% in the quarter. Do you think you can maintain the efficiency ratio at or below that level in the back half of the year?
Jake Civiello: Yeah. Okay. Last question from me. I know you spoke a bit about expenses already, it was nice to see the efficiency ratio back below 60% in the quarter. Do you think you can maintain the efficiency ratio at or below that level in the back half of the year?
Speaker #5: And we did take the opportunity to get in front of that. So we do think that our activity, our growth activity in the second quarter is not likely to represent where we are in the third and the fourth from a net growth in the portfolio.
Speaker #4: Do you think you can maintain the efficiency ratio at or below that level in the back half of the year?
Speaker #6: So I would say simplistically, yes. I think we have an opportunity in the back half of the year. We typically see our fee-based businesses have a strong third quarter and some of that expense follows along with that.
Speaker #5: That being said, where the portfolio sits today, we're in that ballpark of $350 to $400 million of expected cash flows on a 12-month basis.
Annette L. Burns: I would say simplistically, yes. I think we have an opportunity in the back half of the year. We typically see our fee-based businesses have a strong Q3, some of that expense follows along with that. Generally, with where our net interest margin is today and our fee-based businesses able to grow in that mid-single digits and how we're managing our operating costs, I think that's a good place for us to be.
Annette Burns: I would say simplistically, yes. I think we have an opportunity in the back half of the year. We typically see our fee-based businesses have a strong Q3, some of that expense follows along with that. Generally, with where our net interest margin is today and our fee-based businesses able to grow in that mid-single digits and how we're managing our operating costs, I think that's a good place for us to be.
Speaker #5: And because we did not do a restructuring, new yields are better than portfolio yields.
Speaker #6: But generally, with where our net interest margin is today, and our fee-based businesses able to grow in that mid-signal digits, and how we're managing our operating costs, I think that's a good place for us to be.
Speaker #8: So, it's not unreasonable to think that the average yield on that portfolio will continue to increase, assuming rates stay stable?
Speaker #5: Oh, for sure, Jake. Absolutely.
Speaker #8: Yeah, okay. And last question for me—I know you spoke a bit about expenses already, but it was nice to see the efficiency ratio back below 60% in the quarter.
Speaker #5: Yeah. And I'll add to that that, and Jake, you've heard this from us, so it'll probably sound like a broken record, but we aspire to just grow revenues faster than we grow expenses.
Scott A. Kingsley: I'll add to that, Jake, you've heard this from us, it'll probably sound like a broken record, we aspire to just grow revenues faster than we grow expenses. Over the last 6 quarters, certainly improvement in net interest margin has aided that effort noticeably. Regardless of the interest rate environment, that's the tack we take from a management standpoint.
Scott Kingsley: I'll add to that, Jake, you've heard this from us, it'll probably sound like a broken record, we aspire to just grow revenues faster than we grow expenses. Over the last 6 quarters, certainly improvement in net interest margin has aided that effort noticeably. Regardless of the interest rate environment, that's the tack we take from a management standpoint.
Speaker #8: Do you think you can maintain the efficiency ratio at or below that level in the back half of the year?
Speaker #5: And over the last sort of six quarters, certainly improvement in net interest margin has aided that effort noticeably. But regardless of the interest rate environment, that's the tact we take from a management standpoint.
Speaker #7: So, I would say, simplistically, yes. I think we have an opportunity in the back half of the year. We typically see our fee-based businesses have a strong third quarter, and some of that expense follows along with that.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you.
Jake Civiello: Great. Thank you.
Jake Civiello: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Jake.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thanks, Jake.
Scott Kingsley: Thanks, Jake.
Speaker #1: And we do have a follow-up question that will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Operator: We do have a follow-up question that will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Operator: We do have a follow-up question that will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Speaker #7: But generally, with where our net interest margin is today, and our fee-based businesses able to grow in that mid-single digits, and how we're managing our operating costs, I think that's a good place for us to be.
Speaker #7: A post-cannabis stronger growth in the second quarter with a little bit of delayed closings. If growth normalizes a little bit, could you see the buyback tick back up?
Manuel Navas: This stronger growth in Q2 with a little bit of delayed closings. If growth normalizes a little bit, could you see the buyback tick back up? Can you just kind of talk about the appetite for the buyback given expected growth in a quarter?
Manuel Navas: This stronger growth in Q2 with a little bit of delayed closings. If growth normalizes a little bit, could you see the buyback tick back up? Can you just kind of talk about the appetite for the buyback given expected growth in a quarter?
Speaker #5: And I'll add to that that, and Jake, you've heard this from us, so there'll probably sound like a broken record, but we aspire to just grow revenues faster than we grow expenses.
Speaker #7: Can you just kind of talk about the appetite for the buyback given expected growth in a quarter?
Speaker #5: And over the last sort of six quarters, certainly, improvement in net interest margin has aided that effort noticeably. But regardless of the interest rate environment, that's the tack we take from a management standpoint.
Speaker #5: Yeah. So good question. And thanks for asking. Our thought process there has been that, and I think we've said this before, is where we are today from a run rate of EPS generation at 4 bucks or a little above, and a dividend payout of 40 cents a quarter, we're accumulating about 125 million dollars of capital a year.
Scott A. Kingsley: Yeah. Good question, and thanks for asking. Our thought process there has been that, I think we've said this before, is where we are today from a run rate of EPS generation at four bucks or a little above and a dividend payout of $0.40 a quarter. We're accumulating about $125 million of capital a year. That supports a lot of organic growth, certainly at a level meaningfully above where we are today, despite having a really strong Q2. We're focused on that first. I do think as it relates to the buyback, we like to think of it as an opportunistic way to return proceeds to shareholders. It's never been the primary source of EPS growth for us. I think we think about it this way. We work so hard and diligently to generate that capital.
Scott Kingsley: Yeah. Good question, and thanks for asking. Our thought process there has been that, I think we've said this before, is where we are today from a run rate of EPS generation at four bucks or a little above and a dividend payout of $0.40 a quarter. We're accumulating about $125 million of capital a year. That supports a lot of organic growth, certainly at a level meaningfully above where we are today, despite having a really strong Q2. We're focused on that first. I do think as it relates to the buyback, we like to think of it as an opportunistic way to return proceeds to shareholders. It's never been the primary source of EPS growth for us. I think we think about it this way. We work so hard and diligently to generate that capital.
Speaker #8: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Jake.
Speaker #1: And we do have a follow-up question that will come from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: That supports a lot of organic growth, certainly at a level meaningfully above where we are today. Despite having a really strong second quarter, so we're focused on that first.
Speaker #3: A post-cannabis stronger growth in the second quarter, with a little bit of delayed closings. If growth normalizes a little bit, could you see the buyback tick back up?
Speaker #5: And I do think as it relates to the buyback, we like to think of it as an opportunistic way to return proceeds to shareholders but it's never been the primary source of EPS growth for us.
Speaker #3: Can you just kind of talk about the appetite for the buyback given expected growth in a quarter?
Speaker #5: Yeah. So good question. And thanks for asking. Our thought process there has been that, and I think we've said this before, is where we are today from a run rate of EPS generation at four bucks or a little above, and a dividend payout of 40 cents a quarter, we're accumulating about 125 million dollars of capital a year.
Speaker #5: And I kind of think we think about it this way. We work so hard and diligently to generate that capital. We're going to be very disciplined of how we deploy it and use it, including discipline around the entry points for share buybacks.
Scott A. Kingsley: We're going to be very disciplined of how we deploy it and use it, including disciplined around the entry points for share buybacks. The authorization is out there. It may make perfect sense for us to continue to utilize that at various levels of our share price. We're diligent about how we think about that.
Scott Kingsley: We're going to be very disciplined of how we deploy it and use it, including disciplined around the entry points for share buybacks. The authorization is out there. It may make perfect sense for us to continue to utilize that at various levels of our share price. We're diligent about how we think about that.
Speaker #5: The authorization is out there. It may make perfect sense for us to continue to utilize that at various levels of our share price. But we're diligent about how we think about that.
Speaker #5: That supports a lot of organic growth, certainly at a level meaningfully above where we are today. Despite having a really strong second quarter, so we're focused on that first.
Speaker #7: I appreciate that update.
Manuel Navas: I appreciate that update.
Manuel Navas: I appreciate that update.
Speaker #5: And I do think as it relates to the buyback, we like to think of that as an opportunistic way to return proceeds to shareholders, but it's never been the primary source of EPS growth for us.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 11. I am not showing any further questions. Actually, we do have a follow-up from Matthew Grease with Stevens.
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Speaker #5: And I kind of think we think about it this way. We work so hard and diligently to generate that capital. We're going to be very disciplined of how actually how we deploy it and use it, including discipline around the entry points for share buybacks.
Speaker #1: Your line is open.
Speaker #8: Sorry for the little bit of a pause there, but nobody asked it, so I will. Scott, I felt like you hinted a little bit about filling in between the various geographies, and I'm curious what that meant in terms of updated thoughts around M&A.
Matthew Breese: Sorry for the little bit of a pause there, but nobody asked it, so I will. Scott, I felt like you hinted a little bit about filling in between the various geographies, and I'm curious what that meant in terms of updated thoughts around M&A. It's been kind of slow activity-wise in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, and I'm curious if conversations are moving that, meaning conversations are slow as well from your end.
Matthew Breese: Sorry for the little bit of a pause there, but nobody asked it, so I will. Scott, I felt like you hinted a little bit about filling in between the various geographies, and I'm curious what that meant in terms of updated thoughts around M&A. It's been kind of slow activity-wise in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, and I'm curious if conversations are moving that, meaning conversations are slow as well from your end.
Speaker #5: The authorization is out there. It may make perfect sense for us to continue to utilize that at various levels of our share price. But we're diligent about how we think about that.
Speaker #8: It's been kind of slow, activity-wise, in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic. And I'm curious if conversations are moving from that, meaning conversations are slow as well from your end.
Speaker #3: I appreciate that update.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one-one. I am not showing any further questions. Actually, we do have a follow-up from Matthew Grease with Stevens.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Matt, so thanks for asking, by the way. We'll accept the amount of hesitation to answer that one. So our approach has not changed radically different.
Scott A. Kingsley: Yeah, Matt. Thanks for asking, by the way. We'll accept the modest hesitation to answer that one. Our approach has not changed radically different. We're in the market talking to like-minded smaller community banks all the time. We're in front of 12, 15 people a year in our markets. I don't think there's a ton of activity. I think a lot of people, even at the smaller size, are doing fairly well right now. There's not something that's driving that immediate need in terms of operating difficulty. That being said, I think there's a lot of people that are doing forward planning on succession, and I think there's a lot of people doing forward planning on technology investments. I think both of those create an opportunity for us.
Scott Kingsley: Yeah, Matt. Thanks for asking, by the way. We'll accept the modest hesitation to answer that one. Our approach has not changed radically different. We're in the market talking to like-minded smaller community banks all the time. We're in front of 12, 15 people a year in our markets. I don't think there's a ton of activity. I think a lot of people, even at the smaller size, are doing fairly well right now. There's not something that's driving that immediate need in terms of operating difficulty. That being said, I think there's a lot of people that are doing forward planning on succession, and I think there's a lot of people doing forward planning on technology investments. I think both of those create an opportunity for us.
Speaker #5: We're in the market talking to like-minded smaller community banks all the time. So we're in front of a dozen, 15 people a year in our markets.
Speaker #1: Your line is open.
Speaker #2: Sorry for the little bit of a pause there, but nobody asked it, so I will. Scott, I felt like you hinted a little bit about filling in between the various geographies, and I'm curious what that meant in terms of updated thoughts around M&A.
Speaker #5: I don't think there's a ton of activity. I think a lot of people, even at the smaller size, are doing fairly well right now.
Speaker #5: So there's not something that's driving that immediate need in terms of operating difficulty. That being said, I think there's a lot of people that are doing forward planning on succession.
Speaker #2: It's been kind of slow, activity-wise, in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic. I'm curious if conversations are moving from that—meaning, are conversations slow as well from your end?
Speaker #5: And I think there's a lot of people doing forward planning on technology investment. And I think both of those create an opportunity for us.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Matt, so thanks for asking, by the way. We'll accept the amount of hesitation to answer that one. So, our approach has not changed radically.
Speaker #5: Our approach, because we've talked about this before, which is all we want to make sure is we're in front of people so that they know the opportunity so that if at some point in time independence is not in their future, they understand the value proposition for their company and their shareholders with NBT.
Scott A. Kingsley: You know our approach because we've talked about this before, which is all we want to make sure is we're in front of people so that they know the opportunity so that if some point in time independence is not in their future, they understand the value proposition for their company and their shareholders with NBT. That's what we kind of lean on. Yes, we're active in the market. There's been a handful of transactions in our markets over the last three to six months. Some of those we've done some analysis on, and others we have not. What's happened so far has not been the perfect fits for us. The other thing, when you think about a fill-in strategy, our aspiration is to be in the top three in market share in most of the markets we participate over a period of time.
Scott Kingsley: You know our approach because we've talked about this before, which is all we want to make sure is we're in front of people so that they know the opportunity so that if some point in time independence is not in their future, they understand the value proposition for their company and their shareholders with NBT. That's what we kind of lean on. Yes, we're active in the market. There's been a handful of transactions in our markets over the last three to six months. Some of those we've done some analysis on, and others we have not. What's happened so far has not been the perfect fits for us. The other thing, when you think about a fill-in strategy, our aspiration is to be in the top three in market share in most of the markets we participate over a period of time.
Speaker #5: We're in the market, talking to like-minded, smaller community banks all the time. So, we're in front of a dozen to 15 people a year in our markets.
Speaker #5: So that's what we kind of lean on. But yes, we're active in the market. There's been a handful of transactions in our markets over the last three to six months.
Speaker #5: I don't think there's a ton of activity. I think a lot of people, even at the smaller size, are doing fairly well right now.
Speaker #5: So there's not something that's driving that immediate need in terms of operating difficulty. That being said, I think there's a lot of people that are doing forward planning on succession, and I think there's a lot of people doing forward planning on technology investment.
Speaker #5: Some of those we've done some analysis on and others we have not. What's happened so far has not been the perfect fits for us.
Speaker #5: The other thing when you think about a fill-in strategy, our aspiration is to be in the top three in market share in most of the markets we participate over a period of time.
Speaker #5: And I think both of those create an opportunity for us. Our approach, because we've talked about this before, is that all we want to make sure of is that we're in front of people so that they know the opportunity. So that if, at some point in time, independence is not in their future, they understand the value proposition for their company and their shareholders with NBT.
Speaker #5: So when you get to that point, adding an additional franchise sometimes has a concentration issue attached to it. So there were a couple of transactions in our markets that were really not actionable for us because we were going to have market concentration issues.
Scott A. Kingsley: When you get to that point, adding an additional franchise sometimes has a concentration issue attached to it. There were a couple of transactions in our markets that were really not actionable for us because we were going to have market concentration issues. Frankly, we probably wouldn't do a transaction where we had to embrace divestiture of anything. Usually at the size that we're interested in, doing that is something that's really, really difficult. Hard enough to do an M&A transaction. Thinking about how to split the franchise because there's an overlap from a regulatory standpoint is not something we're good at, and don't have a lot of experience at. Are we in the field talking to people and understanding where their needs are for the next two to five years? Absolutely, all the time.
Scott Kingsley: When you get to that point, adding an additional franchise sometimes has a concentration issue attached to it. There were a couple of transactions in our markets that were really not actionable for us because we were going to have market concentration issues. Frankly, we probably wouldn't do a transaction where we had to embrace divestiture of anything. Usually at the size that we're interested in, doing that is something that's really, really difficult. Hard enough to do an M&A transaction. Thinking about how to split the franchise because there's an overlap from a regulatory standpoint is not something we're good at, and don't have a lot of experience at. Are we in the field talking to people and understanding where their needs are for the next two to five years? Absolutely, all the time.
Speaker #5: So that's what we kind of lean on. But yes, we're active in the market. There's been a handful of transactions in our markets over the last three to six months.
Speaker #5: And frankly, we probably wouldn't do a transaction where we had to embrace divestiture of anything. Usually at the size that we're interested in, doing that is something that's really, really difficult.
Speaker #5: Some of those we've done some analysis on and others we have not. What's happened so far has not been the perfect fits for us.
Speaker #5: It's hard enough to do in M&A transaction. Thinking about how to split the franchise because there's an overlap from a regulatory standpoint is not something we're good at.
Speaker #5: The other thing when you think about a fill-in strategy, our aspiration is to be in the top three in market share in most of the markets we participate over a period of time.
Speaker #5: And I don't have a lot of experience at. But are we in the field talking to people and understanding where their needs are for the next two to five years?
Speaker #5: So when you get to that point, adding an additional franchise sometimes has a concentration issue attached to it. So there were a couple of transactions in our markets that were really not actionable for us because we were going to have market concentration issues.
Speaker #5: Absolutely, all the time.
Speaker #8: That's all I had. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Matthew Breese: That's all I had. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Matthew Breese: That's all I had. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Matt.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thank you, Matt.
Scott Kingsley: Thank you, Matt.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And we do have a question from the line of Daniel Cardenas with Brain Capital. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. We do have a question from the line of Daniel Cardenas with Breen Capital. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. We do have a question from the line of Daniel Cardenas with Breen Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #9: Good morning, guys.
Daniel Cardenas: Good morning, guys.
Daniel Cardenas: Good morning, guys.
Scott A. Kingsley: Good morning.
Scott Kingsley: Good morning.
Speaker #5: And frankly, we probably wouldn't do a transaction where we had to embrace divestiture of anything. Usually at the size that we're interested in, doing that is something that's really, really difficult.
Operator: Good morning.
Annette Burns: Good morning.
Speaker #10: Good morning. So just a quick follow-up question on the M&A strategy there. If you could remind us, what's the size range of institution that you would be looking for?
Daniel Cardenas: Just a quick follow-up question on the M&A strategy there. If you could remind us what's the size range of institution that you would be looking for?
Daniel Cardenas: Just a quick follow-up question on the M&A strategy there. If you could remind us what's the size range of institution that you would be looking for?
Speaker #5: It's hard enough to do in an M&A transaction. Thinking about how to split the franchise, because there's an overlap from a regulatory standpoint, is not something we're good at.
Speaker #5: Good question. I think that, Dan, we've kind of think about something has to be large enough for us to deploy the organization and on the analysis and the integration.
Scott A. Kingsley: Good question. I think that, Dan, we kind of think about something has to be large enough for us to deploy the organization on the analysis and the integration. The size of Salisbury Bank a couple of years ago and Evans last year met that criteria spot on. Something that's $1 billion to $3 billion, definitely in our sweet spot. Something we think the organization can handle while it is still aspiring to have organic growth at the same time. In certain situations where if an organization was a little smaller than that, but maybe they had a unique non-interest income offering, whether that's on the insurance, wealth, or the benefits side, yeah, we would absolutely look at that. Again, deploying our folks and taking them away from their natural activities is something we do think about when we go through that.
Scott Kingsley: Good question. I think that, Dan, we kind of think about something has to be large enough for us to deploy the organization on the analysis and the integration. The size of Salisbury Bank a couple of years ago and Evans last year met that criteria spot on. Something that's $1 billion to $3 billion, definitely in our sweet spot. Something we think the organization can handle while it is still aspiring to have organic growth at the same time. In certain situations where if an organization was a little smaller than that, but maybe they had a unique non-interest income offering, whether that's on the insurance, wealth, or the benefits side, yeah, we would absolutely look at that. Again, deploying our folks and taking them away from their natural activities is something we do think about when we go through that.
Speaker #5: And I don't have a lot of experience at it. But are we in the field, talking to people and understanding where their needs are for the next two to five years?
Speaker #5: And so the size of Salisbury Bank a couple of years ago and Evans last year met that criteria spot on. So something that's a billion dollars to three billion dollars definitely in our sweet spot.
Speaker #5: Absolutely, all the time.
Speaker #3: That's all I had. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Matt.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And we do have a question from the line of Daniel Cardenas with Brain Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: And something we think the organization can handle while it is still aspiring to have organic growth at the same time. In certain situations where if an organization was a little smaller than that but maybe they had a unique non-interest income offering, whether that's on the insurance or wealth side, or the benefits side, yeah, we would absolutely look at that.
Speaker #6: Good morning, guys.
Speaker #4: Good morning.
Speaker #3: So just a quick
Speaker #6: Follow-up question on the M&A strategy there. If you could remind us, kind of what's the size range of institution that you would be looking for?
Speaker #5: Good question. I think that, Dan, we've kind of think about something has to be large enough for us to deploy the organization on the analysis and the integration.
Speaker #5: But again, deploying our folks and taking them away from their natural activities is something we do think about when we go through that. Do we do some analysis on stuff that's a little bit larger?
Speaker #5: And so the size of Salisbury Bank a couple of years ago and Evans last year. Met that criteria spot on. So something that's a billion dollars to three billion dollars definitely in our sweet spot.
Scott A. Kingsley: Do we do some analysis on stuff that's a little bit larger? We probably do. I think right now, we're really, really good at M&A. I think that takes an effort, both on the structural side as well as the integration and follow-up side. Our people have done a great job, and we've really acquired some really, really talented people in the last the four years. We're always interested in that because we're always interested in adding talented people to our organization. If that fits some of our geographic strategies, better yet.
Scott Kingsley: Do we do some analysis on stuff that's a little bit larger? We probably do. I think right now, we're really, really good at M&A. I think that takes an effort, both on the structural side as well as the integration and follow-up side. Our people have done a great job, and we've really acquired some really, really talented people in the last the four years. We're always interested in that because we're always interested in adding talented people to our organization. If that fits some of our geographic strategies, better yet.
Speaker #5: We probably do. But I think right now, we're really, really good at M&A. And I think that takes an effort. Both on the structural side as well as the integration and follow-up side.
Speaker #5: And something we think the organization can handle while it is still aspiring to have organic growth at the same time. In certain situations where if an organization was a little smaller than that, but maybe they had a unique non-interest income offering, whether that's on the insurance or wealth side, or the benefits side, yeah, we would absolutely look at that.
Speaker #5: So our people have done a great job. And we've really acquired some really, really talented people in the last four years. So we're always interested in that because we're always interested in adding talented people to our organization.
Speaker #5: And if that fits some of our geographic strategies, better yet.
Speaker #5: But again, deploying our folks and taking them away from their natural activities is something we do think about when we go through that. Do we do some analysis on stuff that's a little bit larger?
Speaker #9: Good. And then it sounds like you're in various stages of conversation. Some early, some maybe a little bit further along. But can you comment on kind of the buyer-seller disconnect in terms of?
Daniel Cardenas: Okay, good. It sounds like you're in various stages of conversation. Some early, some maybe a little bit further along, but can you comment on the buyer-seller disconnect in terms of-
Daniel Cardenas: Okay, good. It sounds like you're in various stages of conversation. Some early, some maybe a little bit further along, but can you comment on the buyer-seller disconnect in terms of-
Speaker #5: We probably do. But I think, right now, we're really, really good at M&A, and I think that takes an effort—both on the structural side as well as the integration and follow-up side.
Speaker #5: I don't know that there's a disconnect. I'm a complete believer in that organizations that are sellers make the choice as to when they want to do that.
Scott A. Kingsley: I don't know that there's a disconnect. I'm a complete believer in that organizations that are sellers make the choice as to when they want to do that. We're okay with that. If somebody's pursuing an independent strategy, great, and so are we. That's similar to us. We understand that. When circumstances for either succession or technology investment or something else, a shareholder need, present themselves, we just want to be in front of someone so that we're top of mind.
Scott Kingsley: I don't know that there's a disconnect. I'm a complete believer in that organizations that are sellers make the choice as to when they want to do that. We're okay with that. If somebody's pursuing an independent strategy, great, and so are we. That's similar to us. We understand that. When circumstances for either succession or technology investment or something else, a shareholder need, present themselves, we just want to be in front of someone so that we're top of mind.
Speaker #5: And we're okay with that. I mean, if somebody's pursuing an independent strategy, great. And so are we. That's similar to us. So we're we understand that.
Speaker #5: So our people have done a great job, and we've really acquired some really, really talented people in the last four years. So we're always interested in that because we're always interested in adding talented people to our organization.
Speaker #5: When circumstances for either succession or technology investment or something else a shareholder need present themselves, we just want to be in front of someone so that we're top of mind.
Speaker #5: And if that fits some of our geographic strategies, even better.
Speaker #6: Okay. Good. And then it sounds like you're in various stages of conversation. Some early, some maybe a little bit further along. But can you comment on kind of the buyer-seller disconnect in terms of?
Speaker #9: Okay. Great. That's all I have for right now. Thank you, guys.
Daniel Cardenas: Okay, great. That's all I have for right now. Thank you, guys.
Daniel Cardenas: Okay, great. That's all I have for right now. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Dan.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thanks, Dan.
Scott Kingsley: Thanks, Dan.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott Kingsley for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott Kingsley for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott Kingsley for any closing remarks.
Speaker #5: I don't know that there's a disconnect. I'm a complete believer that organizations that are sellers make the choice as to when they want to do that.
Speaker #5: Thank you. I want to thank everyone on the call for participating with us today. And thanks for your continued interest in NBT. We'll talk at the end of the next quarter.
Scott A. Kingsley: Thank you. I want to thank everyone on the call for participating with us today, and thanks for your continued interest in NBT. We'll talk at the end of next quarter.
Scott Kingsley: Thank you. I want to thank everyone on the call for participating with us today, and thanks for your continued interest in NBT. We'll talk at the end of next quarter.
Speaker #5: And we're okay with that. I mean, if somebody's pursuing an independent strategy, great. And so are we. That's similar to us, so we understand that.
Operator: Thank you, Mr. Kingsley. This concludes our program. You may disconnect, and have a great day.
Operator: Thank you, Mr. Kingsley. This concludes our program. You may disconnect, and have a great day.
Speaker #5: When circumstances for either succession, technology investment, or something else a shareholder needs present themselves, we just want to be in front of someone so that we're top of mind.
Speaker #6: Okay. Great. That's all I have for right now. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Dan.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I’m showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott Kingsley for any closing remarks.
Speaker #5: Thank you. I want to thank everyone on the call for participating with us today. And thanks for your continued interest in NBT. We'll talk at the end of the next quarter.