Q2 2026 Business First Bancshares Inc Earnings Call
Operator 2: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Business First Bancshares Q2 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question again, press the star 1. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Matt Sealy, Senior Vice President, Director of Corporate Strategy and FP&A. You may begin.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Business First Bancshares Q2 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question again, press the star one. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Matt Sealy, Senior Vice President, Director of Corporate Strategy and FP&A. You may begin.
Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Business First Bancshares Q2 2026 earnings call.
Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press * followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #1: If you would like to withdraw your question again, press *1. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Matt Sealy, Senior Vice President, Director of Corporate Strategy and FP&A.
Speaker #1: You may begin.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon. Thank you all for joining. Earlier today, we issued our second quarter 2026 earnings press release. A copy of which is available on our website along with the slide presentation that we will reference during today's call.
Matt Sealy: Good afternoon. Thank you all for joining. Earlier today, we issued our Q2 2026 earnings press release, a copy of which is available on our website along with the slide presentation that we will reference during today's call. Please refer to slide three of our presentation, which includes our safe harbor statements regarding forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. For those of you joining by phone, please note the slide presentation is available on our website at www.b1bank.com. Please also note our safe harbor statements are available on page six of our earnings press release that was filed with the SEC today. All comments made during today's call are subject to the safe harbor statements in our slide presentation and earnings release. I'm joined this afternoon by Business First Bancshares, Inc.
Matt Sealy: Good afternoon. Thank you all for joining. Earlier today, we issued our Q2 2026 earnings press release, a copy of which is available on our website along with the slide presentation that we will reference during today's call. Please refer to slide three of our presentation, which includes our safe harbor statements regarding forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. For those of you joining by phone, please note the slide presentation is available on our website at www.b1bank.com. Please also note our safe harbor statements are available on page six of our earnings press release that was filed with the SEC today. All comments made during today's call are subject to the safe harbor statements in our slide presentation and earnings release. I'm joined this afternoon by Business First Bancshares, Inc.
Speaker #2: Please refer to slide 3 of our presentation, which includes our Safe Harbor statements regarding forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. For those of you joining by phone, please note that the slide presentation is available on our website at www.b1bank.com.
Speaker #2: Please also note our Safe Harbor statements are available on page 6 of our earnings press release that was filed with the SEC today. All comments made during today's call are subject to the Safe Harbor statements in our slide presentation and earnings release.
Speaker #2: I'm joined this afternoon by Business First Bancshares Chairman and CEO, Jude Melville; Chief Financial Officer, Greg Robertson; Chief Banking Officer, Philip Jordan; and President of B1 Bank, Jerry Vascocu.
Matt Sealy: Chairman and CEO, Jude Melville; Chief Financial Officer, Greg Robertson; Chief Banking Officer, Philip Jordan; and President of b1BANK, Jerry Vaszkewicz. After the presentation, we'll be happy to address any questions you may have. With that, I'll turn the call over to you, Jude.
Matt Sealy: Chairman and CEO, Jude Melville; Chief Financial Officer, Greg Robertson; Chief Banking Officer, Philip Jordan; and President of b1BANK, Jerry Vaszkewicz. After the presentation, we'll be happy to address any questions you may have. With that, I'll turn the call over to you, Jude.
Speaker #2: After the presentation, we'll be happy to address any questions you may have. And with that, I'll turn the call over to you, Jude.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thanks, Matt. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. B1 Bank had an incursionally solid second quarter, one that met or exceeded the progress we've been articulating for you over the past few quarters.
Jude Melville: Okay. Thanks, Matt. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. b1BANK had an encouragingly solid Q2, one that met or exceeded the progress we've been articulating for you over the past few quarters, and one that positions us well for a strong H2 2026. As an example, we returned to our normalized rate of loan production, driving a healthy increase in net interest income. In addition to the production in the Q2, which came in a relatively balanced way across our footprint, we built a significant pipeline, particularly in the Houston area, that we expect will translate into sustained growth for the remainder of the year. Margin expanded by 8 basis points during the quarter, driven partly by disciplined loan and deposit pricing.
Jude Melville: Okay. Thanks, Matt. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. b1BANK had an encouragingly solid Q2, one that met or exceeded the progress we've been articulating for you over the past few quarters, and one that positions us well for a strong H2 2026. As an example, we returned to our normalized rate of loan production, driving a healthy increase in net interest income. In addition to the production in the Q2, which came in a relatively balanced way across our footprint, we built a significant pipeline, particularly in the Houston area, that we expect will translate into sustained growth for the remainder of the year. Margin expanded by eight basis points during the quarter, driven partly by disciplined loan and deposit pricing.
Speaker #3: And one that positions us well for a strong second half of 2026. As an example, we returned to our normalized rate of loan production, driving a healthy increase in net interest income.
Speaker #3: In addition to the production in the second quarter, which came in a relatively balanced way across our footprint, we built a significant pipeline, particularly in the Houston area, that we expect will translate into sustained growth for the remainder of the year.
Speaker #3: Margin expanded by 8 basis points during the quarter, driven partly by disciplined loan and deposit pricing. We also executed a relatively sizable loan sale that we believe will create additional margin opportunity as we redeploy those proceeds into higher-earning assets over the next two quarters.
Jude Melville: We also executed a relatively sizable loan sale that we believe will create additional margin opportunity as we redeploy those proceeds into higher earning assets over the next two quarters. Our team made meaningful progress on the credit front, reducing non-performing loans by about 30%, in line with the progress we forecasted at the beginning of the quarter, and we anticipate continued improvement on that front over the remainder of the year. Revenue from our financial services group is running roughly 20% ahead of last year's pace at the halfway mark of the year. Near the end of the quarter, we added a new partner and product, Jeff Fair with American Planning Corp, which provides CFO-type consulting services to community banks within our footprint.
Jude Melville: We also executed a relatively sizable loan sale that we believe will create additional margin opportunity as we redeploy those proceeds into higher earning assets over the next two quarters. Our team made meaningful progress on the credit front, reducing non-performing loans by about 30%, in line with the progress we forecasted at the beginning of the quarter, and we anticipate continued improvement on that front over the remainder of the year. Revenue from our financial services group is running roughly 20% ahead of last year's pace at the halfway mark of the year. Near the end of the quarter, we added a new partner and product, Jeff Fair with American Planning Corp, which provides CFO-type consulting services to community banks within our footprint.
Speaker #3: Our team made meaningful progress on the credit front, reducing non-performing loans by about 30%, in line with the progress we forecasted at the beginning of the quarter.
Speaker #3: And we anticipate continued improvement on that front over the remainder of the year. Revenue from our financial services group is running roughly 20% ahead of last year's pace at the halfway mark of the year.
Speaker #3: Near the end of the quarter, we added a new partner and product: Jeff Fair with American Planning Corp., which provides CFO-type consulting services to community banks within our footprint.
Speaker #3: I say 'new,' but Jeff is actually a 20-year collaborator with us. Which gives us great confidence in partnering to offer his services under the SSW umbrella.
Jude Melville: I say new, but Jeff is actually a 20-year collaborator with us, which gives us great confidence in partnering to offer his services under the SSW umbrella, bringing the number of banks we serve through our financial services group platform to over 200. If there was a headline disappointment in the quarterly numbers, it was in two areas. First, deposits. I'd point out, however, that a quarter of the decline was purposeful, reflecting our pay-down of higher cost broker deposits. Our non-interest-bearing accounts were positive for the quarter, leading to a slight decrease in overall deposit costs, and the movement was largely seasonal, something we see every Q2, with deposits already beginning to move back in materially over the course of July. Second, expenses ran a little higher than normal, but there's important detail beneath the headline worth exploring.
Jude Melville: I say new, but Jeff is actually a 20-year collaborator with us, which gives us great confidence in partnering to offer his services under the SSW umbrella, bringing the number of banks we serve through our financial services group platform to over 200. If there was a headline disappointment in the quarterly numbers, it was in two areas. First, deposits. I'd point out, however, that a quarter of the decline was purposeful, reflecting our pay-down of higher cost broker deposits. Our non-interest-bearing accounts were positive for the quarter, leading to a slight decrease in overall deposit costs, and the movement was largely seasonal, something we see every Q2, with deposits already beginning to move back in materially over the course of July. Second, expenses ran a little higher than normal, but there's important detail beneath the headline worth exploring.
Speaker #3: Bringing the number of banks we serve through our Financial Services Group platform to over 200. If there was a headline disappointment in the quarterly numbers, it was in two areas.
Speaker #3: First, deposits. I’d point out, however, that a quarter of the decline was purposeful, reflecting our paydown of higher-cost broker deposits. Our non-interest-bearing accounts were positive for the quarter, leading to a slight decrease in overall deposit costs.
Speaker #3: And the movement was largely seasonal, something we see every second quarter, with deposits already beginning to move back in materially over the course of July.
Speaker #3: Second, expenses ran a little higher than normal, but there’s important detail beneath the headline worth exploring. The costs we expect to be recurring, including salaries and related expenses, were flat.
Jude Melville: The cost we expect to be recurring, including salaries and related expenses, were flat, with the increase tied to upfront marketing spend and elevated legal fees connected to the resolution of a large non-performing credit. Two costs that, while core, we don't expect to see again at this scale in Q3. I'm going to add the weeds now, as I'm sure we'll cover this in more detail during Greg's portion of the call, but I wanted you to know that all in all, the quarter was a positive step towards increased profitability through earning asset growth, expense control, and continued asset quality improvement over the course of the year. Finally, wrapping up my list of positive developments this quarter, we remain on track for a successful conversion of our Progressive Bank partnership on August 10.
Jude Melville: The cost we expect to be recurring, including salaries and related expenses, were flat, with the increase tied to upfront marketing spend and elevated legal fees connected to the resolution of a large non-performing credit. Two costs that, while core, we don't expect to see again at this scale in Q3. I'm going to add the weeds now, as I'm sure we'll cover this in more detail during Greg's portion of the call, but I wanted you to know that all in all, the quarter was a positive step towards increased profitability through earning asset growth, expense control, and continued asset quality improvement over the course of the year. Finally, wrapping up my list of positive developments this quarter, we remain on track for a successful conversion of our Progressive Bank partnership on August 10.
Speaker #3: With the increase tied to—excuse me—with the increase tied to upfront marketing spend and elevated legal fees connected to the resolution of a large non-performing credit.
Speaker #3: Two costs that, while core, we don't expect to see again at this scale in the third quarter. I could get into the weeds now, as I'm sure we'll cover this in more detail during Greg's portion of the call, but I wanted you to know that, all in all, the quarter was a positive step toward increased profitability through earning asset growth, expense control, and continued asset quality improvement over the course of the year.
Speaker #3: Finally, wrapping up my list of positive developments this quarter, we remain on track for a successful conversion of our Progressive Bank partnership on August 10.
Speaker #3: On that subject, I'd like to mention something that I don't know that we've highlighted directly in this forum before. We tend to get more questions about, and therefore talk more about, our investments in Dallas and Houston, and they certainly warrant the attention.
Jude Melville: On that subject, I'd like to mention something that I don't know that we've highlighted directly in this forum before. We tend to get more questions about, and therefore talk more about, our investments in Dallas and Houston, and they certainly warrant the attention. I'd like to point out that there are also significant and positive things happening in Louisiana right now, creating incredible tailwinds for that part of our footprint. The state has attracted roughly $150 billion in announced capital investments over the past 18 months, anchored by Meta's data center project in Richland Parish, which the company expanded just last week to 5 gigawatts of capacity and more than $50 billion in total investment, up from its initial $28 billion commitment, making it one of the largest data center developments in the world.
Jude Melville: On that subject, I'd like to mention something that I don't know that we've highlighted directly in this forum before. We tend to get more questions about, and therefore talk more about, our investments in Dallas and Houston, and they certainly warrant the attention. I'd like to point out that there are also significant and positive things happening in Louisiana right now, creating incredible tailwinds for that part of our footprint. The state has attracted roughly $150 billion in announced capital investments over the past 18 months, anchored by Meta's data center project in Richland Parish, which the company expanded just last week to 5 gigawatts of capacity and more than $50 billion in total investment, up from its initial $28 billion commitment, making it one of the largest data center developments in the world.
Speaker #3: So I'd like to point out that there are also significant and positive things happening in Louisiana right now, creating credible tailwinds for that part of our footprint.
Speaker #3: The state has attracted roughly $150 billion in announced capital investments over the past 18 months, anchored by Meta's data center project in Richland Parish.
Speaker #3: Which the company expanded just last week to 5 gigawatts of capacity and more than $50 billion in total investment, up from its initial $28 billion commitment.
Speaker #3: Making it one of the largest data center developments in the world. The expansion is expected to support roughly 7,500 construction jobs and about 1,000 permanent operations positions.
Jude Melville: The expansion is expected to support roughly 7,500 construction jobs and about 1,000 permanent operations positions. Meta also announced more than $1 billion in related infrastructure investment for roads, water, and wastewater systems, along with a new energy agreement with Entergy Louisiana projected to save customers more than $2 billion over 20 years. The state's seeing a broader wave of activity in AI, data infrastructure, and advanced manufacturing that's driving construction activity, job creation, and demand for commercial banking services across our markets. We view this sustained investment as a meaningful long-term positive for the communities we serve and for our growth opportunity as a bank. Particularly since the largest of these investments sits in the heart of Northeast Louisiana, where combining the Progressive footprint with our legacy locations, we will have the largest branch network of any community bank in the area.
Jude Melville: The expansion is expected to support roughly 7,500 construction jobs and about 1,000 permanent operations positions. Meta also announced more than $1 billion in related infrastructure investment for roads, water, and wastewater systems, along with a new energy agreement with Entergy Louisiana projected to save customers more than $2 billion over 20 years. The state's seeing a broader wave of activity in AI, data infrastructure, and advanced manufacturing that's driving construction activity, job creation, and demand for commercial banking services across our markets. We view this sustained investment as a meaningful long-term positive for the communities we serve and for our growth opportunity as a bank. Particularly since the largest of these investments sits in the heart of Northeast Louisiana, where combining the Progressive footprint with our legacy locations, we will have the largest branch network of any community bank in the area.
Speaker #3: Meta also announced more than $1 billion in related infrastructure investment for roads, water, and wastewater systems, along with the new energy agreement with Entergy Louisiana, projected to save customers more than $2 billion over 20 years.
Speaker #3: The state’s seeing a broader wave of activity in AI, data infrastructure, and advanced manufacturing that’s driving construction activity, job creation, and demand for commercial banking services across our markets.
Speaker #3: We view this sustained investment as a meaningful, long-term positive for the communities we serve and for our growth opportunity as a bank. Particularly since the largest of these investments sits in the heart of Northeast Louisiana, where—by combining the Progressive footprint with our legacy locations—we will have the largest branch network of any community bank in the area.
Speaker #3: We will continue to invest in the region, including just this morning, concluding an agreement to serve as the official banking partner for the University of Louisiana Monroe's athletic department.
Jude Melville: We will continue to invest in the region, including just this morning, concluding an agreement to serve as the official banking partner for the University of Louisiana Monroe's athletic department. Congratulations to our team for a solid quarter. We look forward to maximizing the investments we've made to continue building this franchise on behalf of our shareholders, our employees, our regulatory partners, and the communities we serve. With that, I'll turn it over to Greg to walk through the financial results in more detail and look forward to your questions.
Jude Melville: We will continue to invest in the region, including just this morning, concluding an agreement to serve as the official banking partner for the University of Louisiana Monroe's athletic department. Congratulations to our team for a solid quarter. We look forward to maximizing the investments we've made to continue building this franchise on behalf of our shareholders, our employees, our regulatory partners, and the communities we serve. With that, I'll turn it over to Greg to walk through the financial results in more detail and look forward to your questions.
Speaker #3: So, congratulations to our team for a solid quarter. We look forward to maximizing the investments we've made to continue building this franchise on behalf of our shareholders, our employees, our regulatory partners, and the communities we serve.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Greg to walk through the financial results in more detail, and I look forward to your questions.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jude. And good afternoon, everyone. As always, I'll spend a few minutes reviewing our results and discussing our updated outlook before we open up for Q&A.
Greg Robertson: Thank you, Jude, and good afternoon, everyone. As always, I'll spend a few minutes reviewing our results and discuss our updated outlook before we open up for Q&A. Q2 GAAP net income and EPS available to common shareholders was $22.8 million and $0.70, and included a $1.2 million merger-related expense, a $545,000 gain on extinguishment of debt, and a $6,000 loss on the sale of securities. Excluding these non-core items, non-GAAP, core net income, and EPS available to common shareholders was $23.3 million and $0.71 per share. From my perspective, Q2 results marked another quarter of strong financial performance, generating a 105 core ROAA and a core efficiency ratio of 63.9% for the quarter. Our Q2 earnings results were highlighted by better-than-expected mortgage expansion, improved credit metrics from resolutions on previously identified troubled loans, and building capital levels from disciplined balance sheet management.
Greg Robertson: Thank you, Jude, and good afternoon, everyone. As always, I'll spend a few minutes reviewing our results and discuss our updated outlook before we open up for Q&A. Q2 GAAP net income and EPS available to common shareholders was $22.8 million and $0.70, and included a $1.2 million merger-related expense, a $545,000 gain on extinguishment of debt, and a $6,000 loss on the sale of securities. Excluding these non-core items, non-GAAP, core net income, and EPS available to common shareholders was $23.3 million and $0.71 per share. From my perspective, Q2 results marked another quarter of strong financial performance, generating a 105 core ROAA and a core efficiency ratio of 63.9% for the quarter. Our Q2 earnings results were highlighted by better-than-expected mortgage expansion, improved credit metrics from resolutions on previously identified troubled loans, and building capital levels from disciplined balance sheet management.
Speaker #2: Second quarter gap net income in EPS available to common shareholders was 22.8 million, and 70 cents. And included a 1.2 million dollar merger-related expense, 545,000 dollar gain on extinguishment of debt, and a 6,000 dollar loss in the sale of securities.
Speaker #2: Excluding these non-core items, non-GAAP core net income and EPS available to common shareholders was $23.3 million, or $0.71 per share. From my perspective, second quarter results marked another quarter of strong financial performance, generating a 1.05% core ROAA and a core efficiency ratio of 63.9% for the quarter.
Speaker #2: Our second quarter earnings results were highlighted by better-than-expected margin expansion, improved credit metrics, the resolution of previously identified troubled loans, and by building capital levels through disciplined balance sheet management.
Speaker #2: Also during the quarter, we completed the fully self-managed private placement of $85 million of 6.5% fixed-to-floating rate subordinated debt notes due in 2036. Total loans held for investment decreased $24.8 million, or 1.5% annualized, on a linked-quarter basis.
Greg Robertson: Also during the quarter, we completed the fully self-managed private placement of $85 million of 6.5% fixed to floating rate subordinated debt notes due in 2036. Total loans held for investment decreased to $24.8 million or 1.5% annualized on a linked-quarter basis. Excluding the Progressive loan sale mentioned and resolution of certain non-performing loans during Q2, total loans held for investment increased to $96.4 million or 5.8% annualized. Based on unpaid principal balances, Texas-based loans were unchanged from the prior quarter at 35%. Total deposits decreased to $229.4 million as a $237.9 decrease in interest-bearing deposits was slightly offset by a $8.5 million increase in non-interest-bearing deposits. The decrease in interest-bearing deposits was largely driven by approximately $72 million in commercial money market accounts and $63 million in broker deposits.
Greg Robertson: Also during the quarter, we completed the fully self-managed private placement of $85 million of 6.5% fixed to floating rate subordinated debt notes due in 2036. Total loans held for investment decreased to $24.8 million or 1.5% annualized on a linked-quarter basis. Excluding the Progressive loan sale mentioned and resolution of certain non-performing loans during Q2, total loans held for investment increased to $96.4 million or 5.8% annualized. Based on unpaid principal balances, Texas-based loans were unchanged from the prior quarter at 35%. Total deposits decreased to $229.4 million as a $237.9 decrease in interest-bearing deposits was slightly offset by a $8.5 million increase in non-interest-bearing deposits. The decrease in interest-bearing deposits was largely driven by approximately $72 million in commercial money market accounts and $63 million in broker deposits.
Speaker #2: Excluding the progressive loan sale mentioned, as well as the resolution of certain non-performing loans during Q2, total loans held for investment increased $96.4 million, or 5.8% annualized.
Speaker #2: Based on unpaid principal balances, taxes-based loans were unchanged from the prior quarter at 35%. Total deposits decreased 229.4 million as a 237.9 decrease in interest-bearing deposits was slightly offset by 8.5 million dollar increase in non-interest-bearing deposits.
Speaker #2: The decrease in interest-bearing deposits was largely driven by approximately $72 million in commercial money market accounts and $63 million in broker deposits. On the funding side of the balance sheet, total FHLB borrowings increased to $181.7 million from the prior quarter in anticipation of upcoming loan fundings.
Greg Robertson: On the funding side of the balance sheet, the total FHLB borrowings increased to $181.7 million from prior quarter in anticipation of upcoming loan fundings. Lastly, on 2 April, we completed the issuance of the $85 million previously mentioned subordinated debt with partial use of proceeds, utilization to redeem our $52 million issuance that became callable. The net impact from the capital raise was 50 basis points to the Q2 2026 consolidated total risk-based capital measure. Our GAAP reported Q2 net interest margin increased 8 basis points linked quarter to 3.73%, while the non-GAAP core net interest margin, excluding any purchase accounting accretion, increased 8 basis points as well from 360 to 368 for the quarter ending 30 June. The margin performance during the Q2 was driven by improvement in loan yields and securities and continued reduction in deposit costs.
Greg Robertson: On the funding side of the balance sheet, the total FHLB borrowings increased to $181.7 million from prior quarter in anticipation of upcoming loan fundings. Lastly, on 2 April, we completed the issuance of the $85 million previously mentioned subordinated debt with partial use of proceeds, utilization to redeem our $52 million issuance that became callable. The net impact from the capital raise was 50 basis points to the Q2 2026 consolidated total risk-based capital measure. Our GAAP reported Q2 net interest margin increased 8 basis points linked quarter to 3.73%, while the non-GAAP core net interest margin, excluding any purchase accounting accretion, increased 8 basis points as well from 360 to 368 for the quarter ending 30 June. The margin performance during the Q2 was driven by improvement in loan yields and securities and continued reduction in deposit costs.
Speaker #2: Lastly, on April 2, we completed the issuance of the $85 million previously mentioned subordinated debt, with partial use of proceeds to redeem our $52 million issuance that became callable.
Speaker #2: The net impact from the capital raise was 50 basis points to the Q2 2026 consolidated total risk-based capital measure. Our GAAP reported second quarter net interest margin increased 8 basis points quarter over quarter to 3.73%, while the non-GAAP core net interest margin, excluding any purchase accounting accretion, increased 8 basis points as well, from 3.60% to 3.68% for the quarter ended June 30.
Speaker #2: The margin performance during the second quarter was driven by improvement in loan yields and securities and continued reduction in deposit costs. It is worth mentioning that the second quarter gap and core margin did not experience entered any interest income reversal which did weigh on the first quarter margin.
Greg Robertson: It is worth mentioning that the Q2 GAAP and core margin did not experience any interest income reversal, which did weigh on the Q1 margin. Recall the prior quarter core and GAAP net interest margin included about a 6 basis points drag from the interest income reversal on increased NPLs. Loan discount accretion during the Q2 of a million was relatively in line with expectations and directionally what we can expect the next couple of quarters. On a linked quarter basis, cost of deposits decreased 7 basis points while total loan yields increased 3 basis points. Core loan yields, excluding loan discount accretion for the Q2 was 6.58%, up 4 basis points from the prior quarter. Total cost of deposits for the month ended June 2026 was 2.26%, which was consistent for the Q2 full quarter weighted average rate.
Greg Robertson: It is worth mentioning that the Q2 GAAP and core margin did not experience any interest income reversal, which did weigh on the Q1 margin. Recall the prior quarter core and GAAP net interest margin included about a 6 basis points drag from the interest income reversal on increased NPLs. Loan discount accretion during the Q2 of a million was relatively in line with expectations and directionally what we can expect the next couple of quarters. On a linked quarter basis, cost of deposits decreased 7 basis points while total loan yields increased 3 basis points. Core loan yields, excluding loan discount accretion for the Q2 was 6.58%, up 4 basis points from the prior quarter. Total cost of deposits for the month ended June 2026 was 2.26%, which was consistent for the Q2 full quarter weighted average rate.
Speaker #2: Recall the prior quarter core and GAAP net interest margin included about a 6-basis-point drag from the interest income reversal on increased NPLs.
Speaker #2: Loan discount accretion during the second quarter of a million was relatively in line with expectations and directionally what we can expect the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #2: On a linked quarter basis, cost of deposits decreased 7 basis points while total loan yields increased 3 basis points. Core loan yields excluding loan discount accretion for the second quarter was 6.58% up 4 basis points from the prior quarter.
Speaker #2: Total cost of deposits for the month ended June 2026 was 2.26%, which was consistent with the Q2 full quarter weighted average rate. We are pleased with our ability to hold the line on these loan yields during the quarter, with a weighted average new and renewed loan yield of 7.21% for the second quarter.
Greg Robertson: We are pleased with our ability to hold the line on new loan yields during the quarter with a weighted average new and renewed loan yield of 7.21% for the Q2. I'd like to make a note of a few takeaways to slide 19, our investor presentation. We continue to see 45% to 55% overall deposit betas as achievable regarding any future rate cuts. I would also like to point out overall core CD deposit retention rate was 83% during Q2. This impressive statistic reflects our team's continued focus on maintaining and retaining core deposit relationships. Our baseline assumption is that we don't receive any further interest rate cuts during 2026. We have worked hard to manage our balance sheet in a relatively neutral position, and we believe we can achieve modest margin improvement in a slightly down or slightly up rate environment.
Greg Robertson: We are pleased with our ability to hold the line on new loan yields during the quarter with a weighted average new and renewed loan yield of 7.21% for the Q2. I'd like to make a note of a few takeaways to slide 19, our investor presentation. We continue to see 45% to 55% overall deposit betas as achievable regarding any future rate cuts. I would also like to point out overall core CD deposit retention rate was 83% during Q2. This impressive statistic reflects our team's continued focus on maintaining and retaining core deposit relationships. Our baseline assumption is that we don't receive any further interest rate cuts during 2026. We have worked hard to manage our balance sheet in a relatively neutral position, and we believe we can achieve modest margin improvement in a slightly down or slightly up rate environment.
Speaker #2: I'd like to make a note of a few takeaways to slide 19, our investor presentation. We continue to see 45 to 55% overall deposit betas as achievable regarding any future rate cuts.
Speaker #2: I would also like to point out that our overall core CD deposit retention rate was 83% during Q2. This impressive statistic reflects our team's continued focus on maintaining and retaining core deposit relationships.
Speaker #2: Our baseline assumption is that we don't receive any further interest rate cuts during 2026. We have worked hard to manage our balance sheet in a relatively neutral position, and we believe we can achieve modest margin improvement in a slightly down or slightly up rate environment.
Speaker #2: Moving on to the income statement, gap non-interest expense was 59.5 million and included 1.2 million dollars in acquisition-related expense. Core non-interest expense for the second quarter was 58.4 million up 3.1 million from the prior quarter.
Greg Robertson: Moving on to the income statement, GAAP non-interest expense was $59.5 million and included $1.2 million in acquisition-related expenses. Core non-interest expense for the Q2 was $58.4 million, up $3.1 million from the prior quarter. This was slightly higher than our expectation for the quarter and mostly due to elevated marketing and advertising spend. Recall during the prior quarter, our marketing and advertising spend was lower than expected, so when we consider the entire H1, we could consider overall core marketing expenses to be in line with expectations. Going forward, we do expect expenses to be lower as we recognize cost saves in the Q4 from the Progressive acquisition. As a reminder, that core conversion for Progressive is scheduled for mid-August. Q2 GAAP and core non-interest income was $14 million and $13.4 million respectively.
Greg Robertson: Moving on to the income statement, GAAP non-interest expense was $59.5 million and included $1.2 million in acquisition-related expenses. Core non-interest expense for the Q2 was $58.4 million, up $3.1 million from the prior quarter. This was slightly higher than our expectation for the quarter and mostly due to elevated marketing and advertising spend. Recall during the prior quarter, our marketing and advertising spend was lower than expected, so when we consider the entire H1, we could consider overall core marketing expenses to be in line with expectations. Going forward, we do expect expenses to be lower as we recognize cost saves in the Q4 from the Progressive acquisition. As a reminder, that core conversion for Progressive is scheduled for mid-August. Q2 GAAP and core non-interest income was $14 million and $13.4 million respectively.
Speaker #2: This was slightly higher than our expectation for the quarter and mostly due to elevated marketing and advertising spend. Recall during the prior quarter our marketing and advertising spend was lower than expected so when we consider the entire first half of the year, we could consider overall core marketing expenses to be in line with expectations.
Speaker #2: Going forward, we do expect expenses to be lower as we recognize cost saves in the fourth quarter from the Progressive acquisition. As a reminder, the core conversion for Progressive is scheduled for mid-August.
Speaker #2: Second quarter GAAP and core non-interest income was $14 million and $13.4 million, respectively. GAAP results did include a $6,000 loss on sale of securities and a $545,000 gain on extinguishment of debt.
Greg Robertson: GAAP results did include $6,000 loss on sale of securities and a $545,000 gain on extinguishment of debt. Core non-interest income results for the Q2 were relatively consistent with our expectations, primarily due to slower swap fee revenue. As we have mentioned in the past, some of our non-interest revenue business can be lumpy from quarter-to-quarter, but overall, in the intermediate and long term, we do expect to steady build an overall contribution. Lastly, I'd like to highlight the improvement in credit quality that we saw during the Q2. The ratio of non-performing loans compared to loans held for investment decreased 27 basis points to 1.26% to 30 June. While the ratio of non-performing assets compared to total assets decreased 15 basis points to 1.23% for the quarter.
Greg Robertson: GAAP results did include $6,000 loss on sale of securities and a $545,000 gain on extinguishment of debt. Core non-interest income results for the Q2 were relatively consistent with our expectations, primarily due to slower swap fee revenue. As we have mentioned in the past, some of our non-interest revenue business can be lumpy from quarter-to-quarter, but overall, in the intermediate and long term, we do expect to steady build an overall contribution. Lastly, I'd like to highlight the improvement in credit quality that we saw during the Q2. The ratio of non-performing loans compared to loans held for investment decreased 27 basis points to 1.26% to 30 June. While the ratio of non-performing assets compared to total assets decreased 15 basis points to 1.23% for the quarter.
Speaker #2: Core non-interest income results for the second quarter were relatively consistent with our expectation, primarily due to slower swap fee revenue. As we had mentioned in the past, some of our non-interest revenue business can be lumpy from quarter to quarter, but overall in the intermediate and long term, we do expect a steady build and overall contribution.
Speaker #2: Lastly, I’d like to highlight the improvement in credit quality that we saw during the second quarter. The ratio of non-performing loans compared to loans held for investment decreased 27 basis points to 1.26% as of June 30th, while the ratio of non-performing assets compared to total assets decreased 15 basis points to 1.23%.
Speaker #2: The linked core. This was largely driven by a resolution of certain previously identified CRE and commercial business relationships during the second quarter. We are pleased with the improvement in progress in credit resolution during the quarter and we expect as we expect to continue improvement over the next couple of quarters.
Greg Robertson: This was largely driven by the resolution of certain previously identified CRE commercial business relationships during the Q2. We are pleased with the improvement and progress in credit resolution during the quarter, as we expect to continue improvement over the next couple of quarters. That concludes my prepared remarks, and I'll hand the call back over to you, Jude, for anything you'd like to add before I open it up for Q&A.
Greg Robertson: This was largely driven by the resolution of certain previously identified CRE commercial business relationships during the Q2. We are pleased with the improvement and progress in credit resolution during the quarter, as we expect to continue improvement over the next couple of quarters. That concludes my prepared remarks, and I'll hand the call back over to you, Jude, for anything you'd like to add before I open it up for Q&A.
Speaker #2: That concludes my prepared remarks, and I'll hand the call back over to you, Jude, for anything you'd like to add before I open it up for Q&A.
Speaker #1: Great. Thanks, Greg. I think we're ready to move to Q&A. Thank you.
Jude Melville: Great. Thanks, Greg. I think we're ready to move to Q&A. Thank you.
Jude Melville: Great. Thanks, Greg. I think we're ready to move to Q&A. Thank you.
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Speaker #4: Hi guys. Good afternoon.
Matt Olney: Hey, guys. Good afternoon.
Matt Olney: Hey, guys. Good afternoon.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon.
Greg Robertson: Good afternoon.
Greg Robertson: Good afternoon.
Matt Olney: Want to ask more about the balance sheet repositioning that you guys disclosed. It seems like this will give you some excess liquidity that you want to redeploy to the H2. Just any more color on how you expect this to play out and what this means for margin and average earning assets and interest income the H2? Thanks.
Matt Olney: Want to ask more about the balance sheet repositioning that you guys disclosed. It seems like this will give you some excess liquidity that you want to redeploy to the H2. Just any more color on how you expect this to play out and what this means for margin and average earning assets and interest income the H2? Thanks.
Speaker #4: I want to ask more about the balance sheet repositioning that you guys disclosed. It seems like this will give you some excess liquidity that you want to redeploy in the back half of the year.
Speaker #4: Could you provide any more color on how you expect this to play out and what this means for margin, average earning assets, and interest income in the back half of the year?
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, good question. Thanks, Matt. The trend—first of all, the transaction happened in just the last few days of the quarter. We had started, at the closing of the Progressive transaction, started kind of running analytics on this and finally came to an agreement.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. Good question. Thanks, Matt. First of all, the transaction happened in just the last few days of the quarter. We had started at the closing of the Progressive transaction, started trying to run analytics on this, and finally came to an agreement. Really no impact other than the assets being lower at the end of the quarter on a point-in-time basis. Going forward, we expect to pick up about four basis points go forward impact to the margin in the quarter. That's just at a very minimal, just applying that liquidity to borrowings or anything like that. I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. Good question. Thanks, Matt. First of all, the transaction happened in just the last few days of the quarter. We had started at the closing of the Progressive transaction, started trying to run analytics on this, and finally came to an agreement. Really no impact other than the assets being lower at the end of the quarter on a point-in-time basis. Going forward, we expect to pick up about four basis points go forward impact to the margin in the quarter. That's just at a very minimal, just applying that liquidity to borrowings or anything like that. I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
Speaker #2: So really no impact other than the assets being lower at the end of the quarter on a point in time basis. But going forward, we expect to pick up about four basis points go forward, impact to the margin in the quarter.
Speaker #2: And that's just at a very minimal — just applying that liquidity to borrowings or anything like that. So I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
Speaker #4: And Greg, just to follow up there, given the timing of the loan sale, should we anticipate that average earning assets will move lower in the near term?
Matt Olney: Greg, just to follow up there, given the timing of the loan sale, should we anticipate average earning assets would move lower in the near term, so a little bit of drag on the NII?
Matt Olney: Greg, just to follow up there, given the timing of the loan sale, should we anticipate average earning assets would move lower in the near term, so a little bit of drag on the NII?
Speaker #4: It's a little bit of a drag on the NII.
Speaker #2: I don't think so. I think with ours, we should have had a replacement for that in Q3 with asset growth of the pipeline, loan pipeline.
Greg Robertson: I don't think so. I think we should have had a replacement for that in Q3 with the asset growth of the loan pipeline. I don't know that there'd be a material impact to it.
Greg Robertson: I don't think so. I think we should have had a replacement for that in Q3 with the asset growth of the loan pipeline. I don't know that there'd be a material impact to it.
Speaker #2: So I don't know that there'd be a material impact to it.
Speaker #1: We continue to expect to build the pipeline, with a high single-digit annualized increase in both the third and fourth quarters. So we would anticipate putting that liquidity to work—ballpark, you could say half in the third quarter and half in the fourth quarter.
Jude Melville: We continue to expect, with the build in the pipeline, a high single-digit annualized increase in both Q3 and Q4. We would anticipate putting that liquidity to work, ballpark, you could say half in Q3 and half in Q4.
Jude Melville: We continue to expect, with the build in the pipeline, a high single-digit annualized increase in both Q3 and Q4. We would anticipate putting that liquidity to work, ballpark, you could say half in Q3 and half in Q4.
Greg Robertson: Yeah.
Greg Robertson: Yeah.
Speaker #1: But no, we don't expect clearly we ended the quarter with the loan growth being hidden somewhat by the sale. But we expect based on our pipeline to be able to put that to work pretty quickly.
Jude Melville: No, we don't expect to. Clearly, we ended the quarter with the loan growth being hidden somewhat by the sale. We expect, based on our pipeline, to be able to put that to work pretty quickly.
Jude Melville: No, we don't expect to. Clearly, we ended the quarter with the loan growth being hidden somewhat by the sale. We expect, based on our pipeline, to be able to put that to work pretty quickly.
Speaker #2: Yeah. The other part of that, Matt, is and we have about a 21 million dollar reduction in non-performing loans, but actually we resolved about 35 million dollars during the quarter.
Greg Robertson: The other part of that, Matt, is we had about a $21 million reduction in non-performing loans. Actually, we resolved about $35 million during the quarter. $31 of that pay downs and about $4 million of that ballpark moved to OREO. Those two things combined should give us a little bit of margin expansion. Also, we have the ability with the pipeline that we're seeing to put those to work pretty quickly.
Greg Robertson: The other part of that, Matt, is we had about a $21 million reduction in non-performing loans. Actually, we resolved about $35 million during the quarter. $31 of that pay downs and about $4 million of that ballpark moved to OREO. Those two things combined should give us a little bit of margin expansion. Also, we have the ability with the pipeline that we're seeing to put those to work pretty quickly.
Speaker #2: So $31 million of that paydown and about $4 million of that, ballpark, moved to OREO. So those two things combined should give us a little bit of margin expansion, but also we have the ability, with the pipeline that we're seeing, to put those to work pretty quickly.
Speaker #4: Okay. And then I guess switching gears to the funding side, I think Jude mentioned part of the deposit decline in Q2 was strategic and part of it was seasonal.
Matt Olney: Okay. I guess switching gears to the funding side. I think Jude mentioned part of the deposit decline in Q2 was strategic and part of it was seasonal. I just want to dig more into that. I would assume borrowings this quarter that went up just had a more favorable cost than some of the-
Matt Olney: Okay. I guess switching gears to the funding side. I think Jude mentioned part of the deposit decline in Q2 was strategic and part of it was seasonal. I just want to dig more into that. I would assume borrowings this quarter that went up just had a more favorable cost than some of the-
Speaker #4: Just want to dig more into that. I would assume borrowings this quarter that went up just had a more favorable cost than some of the brokered deposits.
Greg Robertson: Yeah
Greg Robertson: Yeah
Matt Olney: Net broker deposits. Any more color there and expectations for H2 on deposit?
Matt Olney: Net broker deposits. Any more color there and expectations for H2 on deposit?
Speaker #4: Any more color there, and expectations for the back half of the year on deposits?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I'll touch on each of them, and I think they're kind of independent from each other. So the deposit outflow—$237 million in interest-bearing outflow—the majority of that was from municipals and commercial money market accounts.
Greg Robertson: Yeah, I'll touch on each of it. I think they're kind of independent from each other. The deposit outflow, $237 million in interest-bearing outflows. Majority of that was from municipals and commercial money market accounts. $77 specifically to commercial money market accounts. Good news is we've seen a lot of that so far this quarter come back in. We feel like that is pretty seasonal actually, Matt. We had smaller balance sheet a year ago, but that same on a percentage basis, the same outflow year over year. The broker that we paid down looked slightly over $60 million in broker. That was weighted average above 4%. We felt that was the right thing to do that and had the cash on balance sheet to do it.
Greg Robertson: Yeah, I'll touch on each of it. I think they're kind of independent from each other. The deposit outflow, $237 million in interest-bearing outflows. Majority of that was from municipals and commercial money market accounts. $77 specifically to commercial money market accounts. Good news is we've seen a lot of that so far this quarter come back in. We feel like that is pretty seasonal actually, Matt. We had smaller balance sheet a year ago, but that same on a percentage basis, the same outflow year over year. The broker that we paid down looked slightly over $60 million in broker. That was weighted average above 4%. We felt that was the right thing to do that and had the cash on balance sheet to do it.
Speaker #2: Specifically to commercial money market accounts, the good news is we've seen a lot of that so far this quarter come back in, so we feel like that is pretty seasonal.
Speaker #2: Actually, Matt, we had a smaller balance sheet a year ago, but on a percentage basis, it was the same outflow year over year. So, the brokered that we paid down looked slightly over $60 million in brokered that was weighted average above 4%.
Speaker #2: So we just we thought that was the right thing to do to do that and had the cash on balance sheet to do it.
Speaker #2: I think the borrowings are more forward-looking in price relative to the pipeline build. I think it gives us a little bit of optionality as we go forward.
Greg Robertson: I think the borrowings is more forward-looking in price relative to the pipeline build, I think, and gives us a little bit of optionality as we go forward.
Greg Robertson: I think the borrowings is more forward-looking in price relative to the pipeline build, I think, and gives us a little bit of optionality as we go forward.
Speaker #4: Okay, thanks for the color. I'll step back.
Matt Olney: Okay. Thanks for the color. I'll step back.
Matt Olney: Okay. Thanks for the color. I'll step back.
Speaker #2: Thanks.
Greg Robertson: Thanks.
Greg Robertson: Thanks.
Speaker #1: I think, Matt, just a little more color on the excuse me one second. Just a little more color on the seasonality. We do have we are have historically been a business oriented bank.
Jude Melville: I think, Matt, just a little more color on the seasonality. We have historically been a business-oriented bank, so we just tend to have a lot more seasonality around tax payments. Also we have a number of long-term relationships with municipalities and governmental authorities, not only with b1 but some of our predecessor institutions that we've partnered with through acquisition, and they tend to reach a low point in the Q2 as well, and then begin building back up. It's mainly due to the composition of some of our larger clients that seasonality occurs. As Greg said, on a proportional basis, this year was essentially the same from an impact standpoint as last year and the year before that and really the general movement that we've seen for a good 10 years now.
Jude Melville: I think, Matt, just a little more color on the seasonality. We have historically been a business-oriented bank, so we just tend to have a lot more seasonality around tax payments. Also we have a number of long-term relationships with municipalities and governmental authorities, not only with b1 but some of our predecessor institutions that we've partnered with through acquisition, and they tend to reach a low point in the Q2 as well, and then begin building back up. It's mainly due to the composition of some of our larger clients that seasonality occurs. As Greg said, on a proportional basis, this year was essentially the same from an impact standpoint as last year and the year before that and really the general movement that we've seen for a good 10 years now.
Speaker #1: So we just tend to have a lot more seasonality around tax payments, and then also we have a number of long-term relationships with municipalities and governmental authorities, not only with B1 but some of our predecessor institutions that we've partnered with through acquisition, and they tend to reach a low point in the second quarter as well.
Speaker #1: And then begin building back up. So it's mainly due to the composition of some of our larger clients that seasonality occurs. And, as Greg said, on a proportional basis, this year was essentially the same from an impact standpoint as last year and the year before that, and really the general movement that we've seen for a good 10 years now.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Jude Melville: Thank you.
Matt Olney: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Fede Strickland with Hofde Group. Your line is open.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from the line of Feddie Strickland with Hovde Group. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Feddie Strickland with Hovde Group. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. Greg, I just wanted to go back to your comments on expenses. I understand the cost saves in the fourth quarter from the systems conversion with Progressive.
Feddie Strickland: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. Greg, I just wanted to go back to your comments on expenses. You understand the cost saves in Q4 from the systems conversion was Progressive. In Q3, are you saying we'll see the advertising line and maybe some of these professional legal fees drop down, maybe closer to what you had in Q1? Or how should I think about the expense cadence going into Q3 here?
Feddie Strickland: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. Greg, I just wanted to go back to your comments on expenses. You understand the cost saves in Q4 from the systems conversion was Progressive. In Q3, are you saying we'll see the advertising line and maybe some of these professional legal fees drop down, maybe closer to what you had in Q1? Or how should I think about the expense cadence going into Q3 here?
Speaker #5: But in the third quarter, are you saying we'll see the advertising line and maybe some of these professional legal fees drop down, maybe closer to what you had in the first quarter? Or how should I think about, I guess, the expense cadence going into the third quarter here?
Speaker #2: Yeah. I would say the directional way to see it is slightly down in the third quarter. Closer to 58 third quarter and then closer to 57 in the fourth quarter.
Greg Robertson: Yeah, I would say the directional way to see it is slightly down in Q3. Closer to 58 Q3, closer to 57 in Q4 is the way we think.
Greg Robertson: Yeah, I would say the directional way to see it is slightly down in Q3. Closer to 58 Q3, closer to 57 in Q4 is the way we think.
Speaker #2: Is the way we think.
Speaker #5: Okay. Got it. And just wanted to ask to switch into the capital side. I mean, it looks like share repurchases picked up some of this quarter.
Feddie Strickland: Okay, got it. Just wanted to ask to switch into the capital side. It looks like share repurchases picked up some this quarter. With Progressive behind you at this point, is that something we could see more of over the next couple quarters, or was that maybe a little bit more opportunistic?
Feddie Strickland: Okay, got it. Just wanted to ask to switch into the capital side. It looks like share repurchases picked up some this quarter. With Progressive behind you at this point, is that something we could see more of over the next couple quarters, or was that maybe a little bit more opportunistic?
Speaker #5: With Progressive behind you at this point, is that something we could see more of over the next couple of quarters, or was that maybe a little bit more opportunistic?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think we’ve kind of — we think at the price we’re at, as long as it stays above $120, that’s kind of where we’ve started doing the math on the value based on our other capital opportunities.
Greg Robertson: Yes. We think at the price we're at, as long as it stays above 120, that's where we started doing the math on the value based on our other capital opportunities. I think the other two capital opportunities we have, obviously one would be our organic growth opportunities with our Houston team that we recently hired and just the other loan pipeline opportunities we have would be the first for capital use primary. The second thing we have in the near term is the callable event of our preferred stock next year in September. We have the ability to pay that down in part or whole next September. I think that would be another useful opportunity for the capital. Those are in the order we've been thinking about it right now.
Greg Robertson: Yes. We think at the price we're at, as long as it stays above 120, that's where we started doing the math on the value based on our other capital opportunities. I think the other two capital opportunities we have, obviously one would be our organic growth opportunities with our Houston team that we recently hired and just the other loan pipeline opportunities we have would be the first for capital use primary. The second thing we have in the near term is the callable event of our preferred stock next year in September. We have the ability to pay that down in part or whole next September. I think that would be another useful opportunity for the capital. Those are in the order we've been thinking about it right now.
Speaker #2: I think the other two capital opportunities we have, obviously one would be our organic growth opportunities with our Houston team that we recently hired and just the other loan pipeline opportunities we have.
Speaker #2: The first source of capital would be primary. And then the second thing we have in the near term is the callable event of our preferred stock next year, in September.
Speaker #2: So, we have the ability to pay that down in part or in whole next September. So, I think that would be another useful opportunity for the capital.
Speaker #2: So those are kind of in the order we've been thinking about them right now.
Speaker #5: Got it.
Feddie Strickland: Got it.
Feddie Strickland: Got it.
Jude Melville: Matt can probably give you a little bit of a projection for where we expect to end the year capital ratio-wise.
Jude Melville: Matt can probably give you a little bit of a projection for where we expect to end the year capital ratio-wise.
Speaker #1: And we Matt can probably give you a little bit of a projection for where we expect to end the year. Capital ratio-wise?
Speaker #5: Yeah. Capital-wise, consolidated total risk-based is just under 14%, around 13.9%. And on CET1, just under 10.6%, probably on a consolidated basis to end the year.
Matt Sealy: Yeah. Capital-wise, consolidated total risk base in just under 14%, around 13.9%. On CET1, just under 10.6%, probably on a consolidated basis to end the year. TCE likely to reach about 9%, and that's assuming mid-eightish percent annualized loan growth next couple quarters. Kind of steady balance sheet growth. Like Greg mentioned earlier, continued margin expansion.
Matt Sealy: Yeah. Capital-wise, consolidated total risk base in just under 14%, around 13.9%. On CET1, just under 10.6%, probably on a consolidated basis to end the year. TCE likely to reach about 9%, and that's assuming mid-eightish percent annualized loan growth next couple quarters. Kind of steady balance sheet growth. Like Greg mentioned earlier, continued margin expansion.
Speaker #5: TCE is likely to reach about 9%. And that's assuming mid-8% annualized loan growth over the next couple of quarters, with steady balance sheet growth and, like Greg mentioned earlier, continued margin expansion.
Speaker #1: So, we'll enter '27 with as much capital optionality as we've had in a number of years. Our position of relative capital strength, compared to hitting its low—I guess in '22—was probably when we hit our low.
Jude Melville: We'll enter 2027 with as much capital optionality as we've had in a number of years from a position of relative capital strength compared to hitting its low, I guess, in 2022 is probably when we hit our low. Looking forward to reinvesting that primarily in organic growth, as Greg mentioned, but it'll be nice to be able to have some savings projected through the refi of the preferred equity near the end of the year as well.
Jude Melville: We'll enter 2027 with as much capital optionality as we've had in a number of years from a position of relative capital strength compared to hitting its low, I guess, in 2022 is probably when we hit our low. Looking forward to reinvesting that primarily in organic growth, as Greg mentioned, but it'll be nice to be able to have some savings projected through the refi of the preferred equity near the end of the year as well.
Speaker #1: But, so, looking forward to reinvesting that primarily in organic growth, as Greg mentioned, but it would be nice to be able to have some savings projected through the refi of the preferred equity here at the end of the year as well.
Speaker #2: So Fede, we'll continue to have our plan in place to look and be opportunistic with repurchases. We did 176,000 shares, about 4.8 million in the second quarter.
Greg Robertson: Feddie, we'll continue to have our plan in place to look and be opportunistic with repurchases. We did 176,000 shares, about $4.8 million in Q2. If the opportunity arises, we'll be ready for that as well.
Greg Robertson: Feddie, we'll continue to have our plan in place to look and be opportunistic with repurchases. We did 176,000 shares, about $4.8 million in Q2. If the opportunity arises, we'll be ready for that as well.
Speaker #2: So if the opportunity arises, we'll be ready for that as well.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Hey, Fede, congratulations on your second baby, by the way.
Jude Melville: Yeah. Hey, Feddie, congratulations on your second baby, by the way.
Jude Melville: Yeah. Hey, Feddie, congratulations on your second baby, by the way.
Speaker #5: Oh, it’s number one, but I appreciate it.
Feddie Strickland: Oh, it's number one, but I appreciate it.
Feddie Strickland: Oh, it's number one, but I appreciate it.
Speaker #1: Oh, number one. It feels like two.
Jude Melville: Oh, number one. Well, fuck that. It feels like two.
Jude Melville: Oh, number one. Well. It feels like two.
Speaker #5: All right. Thank you very much.
Feddie Strickland: Thank you very much.
Feddie Strickland: Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: Double congratulations.
Jude Melville: All right. Well, congratulations.
Jude Melville: All right. Well, congratulations.
Speaker #5: Thank you. I'll step back.
Feddie Strickland: Thank you. I'll step back.
Feddie Strickland: Thank you. I'll step back.
Speaker #3: The next question comes from the line of Gary Tenner with DA Davidson. Your line is open.
Operator 2: Next question comes from the line of Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.
Operator: Next question comes from the line of Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: Thanks. Good morning—oh, excuse me—good afternoon. I just wanted to ask about deposits. You talked about the seasonality and the outflows of some of the commercial money market that's come back in this quarter.
Gary Tenner: Thanks. Good morning. Excuse me, good afternoon. I just wanted to ask on the deposits, you talked about the seasonality and the outflows of some of the commercial money market that's come back in this quarter. With that money coming back in, which I assume is coming in a little bit higher than the average cost was in the quarter, does that put any pressure on deposit costs or are there other levers to pull within the deposit portfolio to continue to push costs down?
Gary Tenner: Thanks. Good morning. Excuse me, good afternoon. I just wanted to ask on the deposits, you talked about the seasonality and the outflows of some of the commercial money market that's come back in this quarter. With that money coming back in, which I assume is coming in a little bit higher than the average cost was in the quarter, does that put any pressure on deposit costs or are there other levers to pull within the deposit portfolio to continue to push costs down?
Speaker #6: With that money coming back in, which I assume is coming in a little bit higher than the average cost was in the quarter, does that put any pressure on deposit costs, or are there other levers to pull within the deposit portfolio to continue to push costs down?
Speaker #2: Gary, there are two components to that. So, we were up in non-interest bearing about $8 million quarter over quarter, and we continue to see that field.
Greg Robertson: Gary, there's two components to that. We were up in non-interest bearing about $8 million quarter-over-quarter, and we continue to see that build. We've had some early success in the quarter with that gives us a little bit of pricing optionality as well. I think the second part that I've been surprised about is the inflows we've seen have been coming back in pretty much matching the average weighted rate for Q2. Hadn't really experienced any lift yet, but it's early. We're optimistic about that.
Greg Robertson: Gary, there's two components to that. We were up in non-interest bearing about $8 million quarter-over-quarter, and we continue to see that build. We've had some early success in the quarter with that gives us a little bit of pricing optionality as well. I think the second part that I've been surprised about is the inflows we've seen have been coming back in pretty much matching the average weighted rate for Q2. Hadn't really experienced any lift yet, but it's early. We're optimistic about that.
Speaker #2: So we've had some early success in the quarter with that, so that gives us a little bit of pricing optionality as well. And then I think the second part that I've been surprised about is the inflows we've seen have been coming back in pretty much matching the average weighted rate for Q2.
Speaker #2: So, we hadn't really experienced any lift yet, but it's early. We're optimistic about that.
Speaker #6: Got it. I mean, just as it relates to the CD book, the weighted average rate—3.30% in the quarter—is there room to push that down, or are we now sort of at stasis on the funding side without any Fed action?
Gary Tenner: Got it. Just as it relates to the CD book, the weighted average rate 330 in the quarter. Is there room to push that down or are we now sort of at stasis on the funding side without any Fed action?
Gary Tenner: Got it. Just as it relates to the CD book, the weighted average rate 330 in the quarter. Is there room to push that down or are we now sort of at stasis on the funding side without any Fed action?
Greg Robertson: No, we've got some opportunities with both brokered and organic CDs in Q3 and Q4 to reprice those down. We'll hopefully, if rates stay where they are, we may be able to take advantage of that.
Greg Robertson: No, we've got some opportunities with both brokered and organic CDs in Q3 and Q4 to reprice those down. We'll hopefully, if rates stay where they are, we may be able to take advantage of that.
Speaker #2: No. We've got some opportunities with both brokered and organic CDs in the third and the fourth quarter to reprice those down. So we'll hopefully if rates stay where they are, we may be able to take advantage of that.
Speaker #6: Okay. And I may have missed it if you noted it in your prepared remarks, but in terms of the swap fees and the decline there quarter over quarter, can you just talk about the dynamics around that?
Gary Tenner: Okay. I may have missed it if you noted it in your prepared remarks, but in terms of the swap fees and the decline there quarter-over-quarter, can you just talk about the dynamics around that?
Gary Tenner: Okay. I may have missed it if you noted it in your prepared remarks, but in terms of the swap fees and the decline there quarter-over-quarter, can you just talk about the dynamics around that?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think we had a—well, I think the dynamics about, naturally, were we had a really good second quarter in those fees—swap fees for the second quarter.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. I think the dynamics about that naturally was we had a really good Q2 in those swap fees for Q2. They were down probably closer to inline with the forecast for the year. I think we've already got some indications, some pretty good wins in Q3. I think we'll see that come back up closer to Q2 levels.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. I think the dynamics about that naturally was we had a really good Q2 in those swap fees for Q2. They were down probably closer to inline with the forecast for the year. I think we've already got some indications, some pretty good wins in Q3. I think we'll see that come back up closer to Q2 levels.
Speaker #2: So, they were down, but probably closer to in line with the forecast for the year. And I think we've already got some indications—some pretty good wins—in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: So, I think we'll see that come back up closer to Q2 levels.
Speaker #1: Really good. Really strong first quarter.
Jude Melville: Really good. Really strong Q1.
Jude Melville: Really good. Really strong Q1.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Strong first quarter.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. Strong Q1.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. Strong Q1.
Speaker #1: It's interesting—they were down, but they really were in line with their expectations. I think also it's a relatively nascent business, so these newer businesses can be lumpy, and just a couple happening or not happening quarter-over-quarter can make a difference to the top line.
Jude Melville: In comparison, they were down. They really were in line with their expectations. I think also, it's a relatively nascent business. These newer businesses can be lumpy and just a couple happening or not happening quarter-over-quarter can make a difference to the top line that's still material. As we mature it, as has happened with all of our lines of business over the years, we'll be able to de-lumpy it. I'm not sure that's a word, but we'll hopefully kind of smooth it out a little bit. It's still young enough that just a couple of deals do make a difference in a given quarter. Same with our SBA business and really our financial services group as a whole, which is still a fairly new entrepreneurial endeavor.
Jude Melville: In comparison, they were down. They really were in line with their expectations. I think also, it's a relatively nascent business. These newer businesses can be lumpy and just a couple happening or not happening quarter-over-quarter can make a difference to the top line that's still material. As we mature it, as has happened with all of our lines of business over the years, we'll be able to de-lumpy it. I'm not sure that's a word, but we'll hopefully kind of smooth it out a little bit. It's still young enough that just a couple of deals do make a difference in a given quarter. Same with our SBA business and really our financial services group as a whole, which is still a fairly new entrepreneurial endeavor.
Speaker #1: There's still material. So as we mature it, as has happened with all of our lines of business over the years, we'll be able to de-lumpify it.
Speaker #1: I'm not sure that's a word, but we'll able to hopefully kind of smooth it out a little bit. But it's still young enough that just a couple of deals do make a difference in a given quarter.
Speaker #1: Same with our SBA business, and really our financial services group as a whole, which is still a fairly new entrepreneurial endeavor.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Gary Tenner: Thank you.
Gary Tenner: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Marinac with Breen Capital. Your line is open.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Marinac with Green Capital. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Marinac with Brean Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: Hey, good afternoon. Just wanted to dig a little bit further into criticized asset trends and kind of what you were seeing there, and maybe how that may look a few quarters out.
Christopher Marinac: Hey, good afternoon. Just wanted to dig a little bit further into criticized asset trends and kind of what you were seeing there and maybe how that may look a few quarters out.
Christopher Marinac: Hey, good afternoon. Just wanted to dig a little bit further into criticized asset trends and kind of what you were seeing there and maybe how that may look a few quarters out.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Chris, we feel we're happy with the resolutions we got in the third quarter that I mentioned—in the second quarter that I mentioned.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. Chris, we're happy with the resolution we got in Q2 that I mentioned. As we look out into Q3, I think seeing that we ended at an $80 million point for Q2, we're working toward possibly a 10% to 20% resolution again, and we think that's achievable in Q3 in NPLs and then also reduction in OREO, possibly 10% to 15% of that as well. We feel like that's achievable in Q3. We think that that'll continue to maybe slightly down from there in Q4. We think that it's achievable to end the year closer to $50 million or slightly below. That historically for us, that has been an area that's been pretty normal, $40 to $50 million in NPLs.
Greg Robertson: Yeah. Chris, we're happy with the resolution we got in Q2 that I mentioned. As we look out into Q3, I think seeing that we ended at an $80 million point for Q2, we're working toward possibly a 10% to 20% resolution again, and we think that's achievable in Q3 in NPLs and then also reduction in OREO, possibly 10% to 15% of that as well. We feel like that's achievable in Q3. We think that that'll continue to maybe slightly down from there in Q4. We think that it's achievable to end the year closer to $50 million or slightly below. That historically for us, that has been an area that's been pretty normal, $40 to $50 million in NPLs.
Speaker #2: As we look out into Q3, I think that seeing we ended at the $80 million point for Q2, we're working toward possibly a 10 to 20 percent resolution.
Speaker #2: Again, we think that's achievable in Q3, in NPLs, and then also a reduction in OREO—possibly 10% to 15% of that as well.
Speaker #2: So we feel like that's achievable in Q3. We think that, then, that'll continue to maybe slightly decline from there in Q4, but we think that it's achievable to end the year closer to $50 million or slightly below.
Speaker #2: And then historically for us, that has been an area that's been pretty normal—$40 to $50 million in NPLs. The good news from a credit front are two things I think that are kind of, when you start pulling the curtain back a little more, is past dues for us quarter—for the first quarter and the second quarter.
Greg Robertson: The good news from a credit front are two things, I think that have kind of when you start pulling the curtain back a little more is past dues for us for Q1 and Q2 continue to be more in line with our historical expectations below 50 basis points or one half of 1%. I think the other thing is if you look at the watchlist, specifically what we call 45 and 50 credits, those are the ones that we start watching that haven't made it to non-performer yet or classified. At the end of the year, that was about $450 million. That's down to about $330 million at the end of June.
Greg Robertson: The good news from a credit front are two things, I think that have kind of when you start pulling the curtain back a little more is past dues for us for Q1 and Q2 continue to be more in line with our historical expectations below 50 basis points or one half of 1%. I think the other thing is if you look at the watchlist, specifically what we call 45 and 50 credits, those are the ones that we start watching that haven't made it to non-performer yet or classified. At the end of the year, that was about $450 million. That's down to about $330 million at the end of June.
Speaker #2: Continue to be more in line with our historical expectations, below 50 basis points, or one half of 1%. I think the other thing is, if you look at our watch and 50 credit, those are the ones that we start watching that haven't made it to non-performer yet.
Speaker #2: We're classified. At the end of the year, that was about $450 million. That's down to about $330 million at the end of June. So those two things from a forward-looking perspective, along with the fact that we haven't seen any major build in NPLs, give us an outlook on the future that we think we've kind of gotten past the little lumpy period that we had.
Greg Robertson: Those two things from a forward-looking perspective, along with we haven't seen any major build in NPLs, give us kind of outlook on the future that we think we've kind of gotten past the little lumpy period that we had with those few problem credits we talked about probably for three or four quarters and then started resolving last quarter.
Greg Robertson: Those two things from a forward-looking perspective, along with we haven't seen any major build in NPLs, give us kind of outlook on the future that we think we've kind of gotten past the little lumpy period that we had with those few problem credits we talked about probably for three or four quarters and then started resolving last quarter.
Speaker #2: With those few prompt credits, we talked about it probably for three or four quarters and then started resolving it last quarter.
Speaker #6: Great, that's really helpful, Greg. Thank you for that background. And does any of this give you relief on the allowance going forward, or would you just assume kind of grow into what you have at this moment?
Christopher Marinac: Great. That's really helpful, Greg. Thank you for that background. Does any of this give you relief on the allowance going forward, or would you just assume kind of grow into what you have at this moment?
Christopher Marinac: Great. That's really helpful, Greg. Thank you for that background. Does any of this give you relief on the allowance going forward, or would you just assume kind of grow into what you have at this moment?
Speaker #2: I think our plan is to try to grow into what we have. We're pretty flat quarter over quarter. It's the as the improvement with some of the classified criticized loans move out, I think it gives us the opportunity just to continue to bolster the good books within the pool and continue our plan to try to reserve 1.20 times all new loan growth.
Greg Robertson: I think our plan is to try to grow into what we have. We're pretty flat quarter-over-quarter. As the improvement with some of the classified, criticized loans move out, I think it gives us the opportunity just to continue to bolster the good books within the pool and continue our plan to try to reserve 1.20 times all new loan growth because we feel like we'd like to continue to grow it.
Greg Robertson: I think our plan is to try to grow into what we have. We're pretty flat quarter-over-quarter. As the improvement with some of the classified, criticized loans move out, I think it gives us the opportunity just to continue to bolster the good books within the pool and continue our plan to try to reserve 1.20 times all new loan growth because we feel like we'd like to continue to grow it.
Speaker #2: Because we feel like we'd like to continue to grow it.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks again for hosting us today.
Christopher Marinac: Great. Thanks again for hosting us today.
Christopher Marinac: Great. Thanks again for hosting us today.
Speaker #2: Thanks.
Greg Robertson: Thanks.
Greg Robertson: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Jude Melville: Thank you.
Jude Melville: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Operator 2: Next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Operator: Next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Most of them had asked and answered, but Jude, you spent some time in the prepared remarks talking about the Meta investment and Louisiana in general.
Michael Rose: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Most of them have been asked and answered. Jude, you spent some time in the prepared remarks talking about the Meta investment in Louisiana in general. Can you size what that kind of means for you guys from an opportunity perspective? I assume you're not making loans to Meta or doing data center loans or things like that. What does that really mean in the context of the ability to grow both loans and maybe some of the fee products? Would just love some color there. Thanks.
Michael Rose: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Most of them have been asked and answered. Jude, you spent some time in the prepared remarks talking about the Meta investment in Louisiana in general. Can you size what that kind of means for you guys from an opportunity perspective? I assume you're not making loans to Meta or doing data center loans or things like that. What does that really mean in the context of the ability to grow both loans and maybe some of the fee products? Would just love some color there. Thanks.
Speaker #1: Can you size what that kind of means for you guys from an opportunity perspective? I assume you're not making loans to Meta or doing data center loans or things like that, but what does that really mean in the context of the ability to grow both loans and maybe some of the fee products?
Speaker #1: We just love some color there. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, no, you're right. In fact, we had a good discussion in our board meeting today about that. We're certainly not camping out next door expecting to bank the data center itself.
Jude Melville: Yeah. No, you're right. In fact, we had a good discussion in our board meeting today about that. We're certainly not camping out next door expecting to bank the data center itself. When you have an entity that large, there are an awful lot of vendors, service providers that need to operate there on a regular basis. That would be our initial opportunity to bank small businesses that are doing work for the data center. Even after the construction period, there will be maintenance, and there will be materials needed. There'll be transportation requirements and things of that nature. What we're finding is that not only is there opportunity specifically in that geography, but the investment is so large that they're needing to bring in vendors from contiguous geographies.
Jude Melville: Yeah. No, you're right. In fact, we had a good discussion in our board meeting today about that. We're certainly not camping out next door expecting to bank the data center itself. When you have an entity that large, there are an awful lot of vendors, service providers that need to operate there on a regular basis. That would be our initial opportunity to bank small businesses that are doing work for the data center. Even after the construction period, there will be maintenance, and there will be materials needed. There'll be transportation requirements and things of that nature. What we're finding is that not only is there opportunity specifically in that geography, but the investment is so large that they're needing to bring in vendors from contiguous geographies.
Speaker #5: When you have an entity that large, there are an awful lot of vendors and service providers that need to operate there on a regular basis. And so, that would be our initial opportunity to bank small businesses that are doing work for the data center.
Speaker #5: And even after the construction period, there will be maintenance. There will be materials needed, there will be transportation requirements, and things of that nature.
Speaker #5: And so, what we're finding is that not only is there opportunity specifically in that geography, but the investment is so large that they're needing to bring in vendors from contiguous geographies.
Speaker #5: And so we've actually seen that some of our client base in Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Lake Charles, and even Houston are generating work directly related to the data center development in the Rayville area.
Jude Melville: We've actually seen that some of our client base in Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Lake Charles, and even Houston are actually generating work related directly to the data center development in the Rayville area. That's one thing I would say. Second thing I would say is that what we anticipate happening is the dollars that are being spent there will trickle throughout the community and will show up in a more dispersed way than just the company that's investing there and just the companies doing business there. A good example is recently the Richland Parish school system gave each of their teachers a $50,000 bonus for last year's work. That was made possible because of taxes surrounding the data center investment.
Jude Melville: We've actually seen that some of our client base in Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Lake Charles, and even Houston are actually generating work related directly to the data center development in the Rayville area. That's one thing I would say. Second thing I would say is that what we anticipate happening is the dollars that are being spent there will trickle throughout the community and will show up in a more dispersed way than just the company that's investing there and just the companies doing business there. A good example is recently the Richland Parish school system gave each of their teachers a $50,000 bonus for last year's work. That was made possible because of taxes surrounding the data center investment.
Speaker #5: So it's going really well, that's one thing I would say. The second thing I would say is that what we anticipate happening is the dollars that are being spent there will triple throughout the community.
Speaker #5: And we'll show up in a more dispersed way than just the company that's investing there and just the companies doing business there. And a good example is recently the Richland Parish school system gave each of their teachers a $50,000 bonus for last year's work.
Speaker #5: So the tax implications of that—and that's what's made possible because of the taxes surrounding the data center investment. And so, there will be opportunities for reinvestment by the municipalities and the other governmental entities in the region that will ultimately benefit a wider array of citizens.
Jude Melville: There will be opportunities for reinvestment by the municipalities and the other governmental entities in the region that will ultimately benefit a wider array of citizens. We now, although we began with a very limited branch network focused primarily on small businesses, over time, we've grown to be the largest Louisiana-headquartered bank as measured by Louisiana assets. Number five in Louisiana in number of locations. As the positive economic impact trickles down to the communities throughout Louisiana, we feel like we're as well-placed as any entity to take advantage of that general economic positive turn. It's really not anything that's magic per se about banking the data center itself. By the way, there are other data centers under work underway in other parts of the state, including where we are, including Bossier Parish.
Jude Melville: There will be opportunities for reinvestment by the municipalities and the other governmental entities in the region that will ultimately benefit a wider array of citizens. We now, although we began with a very limited branch network focused primarily on small businesses, over time, we've grown to be the largest Louisiana-headquartered bank as measured by Louisiana assets. Number five in Louisiana in number of locations. As the positive economic impact trickles down to the communities throughout Louisiana, we feel like we're as well-placed as any entity to take advantage of that general economic positive turn. It's really not anything that's magic per se about banking the data center itself. By the way, there are other data centers under work underway in other parts of the state, including where we are, including Bossier Parish.
Speaker #5: And we now, although we began with a very limited branch network focused primarily on small businesses, over time we've grown to be the largest Louisiana-headquartered bank as measured by Louisiana assets.
Speaker #5: So, number five in Louisiana in number of locations. So, as the positive economic impact trickles down to the communities throughout Louisiana, we feel like we're as well placed as any entity to take advantage of that general economic positive turn.
Speaker #5: So it's really not anything that's magic, per se, about banking the data center itself. And by the way, there are other data centers underway in other parts of the state, including where we are, including Bozor.
Speaker #5: Parish. And we don't anticipate, all of a sudden, doing major macro loan deals with the data centers themselves. But as the economic benefits trickle down, we believe, again, that we're well placed to do traditional community banking across our footprint.
Jude Melville: We don't anticipate all of a sudden doing major macro loan deals with the data centers themselves. As the economic benefits trickle down, we believe again, that we're well-placed to do traditional community banking across our footprint, and as long as we put in the effort and put in work and treat the clients right, then we should be a prime beneficiary of that trickle-down effect. Exciting.
Jude Melville: We don't anticipate all of a sudden doing major macro loan deals with the data centers themselves. As the economic benefits trickle down, we believe again, that we're well-placed to do traditional community banking across our footprint, and as long as we put in the effort and put in work and treat the clients right, then we should be a prime beneficiary of that trickle-down effect. Exciting.
Speaker #5: And as long as we put in the effort and put in the work and treat the clients right, then we should be the prime beneficiary of that trickle-down effect.
Speaker #5: Exciting.
Speaker #1: No, really. I really appreciate it. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
Michael Rose: No, really appreciate. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
Michael Rose: No, really appreciate. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker #5: Well, I was going to say it's exciting not just for the data center itself, but for the wider potential effects. That will take a little while to play out.
Jude Melville: Well, I was going to say it's exciting not just for the data center itself, but for the wider potential effects that will take a little while to play out. That's not a Q3 thing, right? There is activity there. There's work there. We are seeing some loan demand increase because of the businesses that we bank that are doing business there. I think the longer-term effects are what is really exciting about the opportunity, both for us and for the citizens of Louisiana.
Jude Melville: Well, I was going to say it's exciting not just for the data center itself, but for the wider potential effects that will take a little while to play out. That's not a Q3 thing, right? There is activity there. There's work there. We are seeing some loan demand increase because of the businesses that we bank that are doing business there. I think the longer-term effects are what is really exciting about the opportunity, both for us and for the citizens of Louisiana.
Speaker #5: It's not a third-quarter thing, right? I mean, there is activity there. There's work there. We are seeing some loan demand increase because of the businesses that we think are doing business there.
Speaker #5: But I think the longer-term effects are what is really exciting about the opportunity, both for us and for the citizens of Louisiana.
Michael Rose: Very helpful commentary. Maybe just one follow-up on top of that. As we kind of think about the H2 of the year, you mentioned the loan growth pipeline, redeploying the loan sale proceeds. You obviously talked about credit continuing to get better. You got the cost saves from Progressive coming, and then you just talked about Meta and Louisiana and all that stuff. What do you think investors are kind of underappreciating most about the story at this point, and maybe where do you see potential upside to where expectations currently are? I know it's kind of a long, maybe tough question, but maybe just a couple points would be, I think helpful because it seems like there's a fair amount of tailwinds here. Thanks.
Michael Rose: Very helpful commentary. Maybe just one follow-up on top of that. As we kind of think about the H2 of the year, you mentioned the loan growth pipeline, redeploying the loan sale proceeds. You obviously talked about credit continuing to get better. You got the cost saves from Progressive coming, and then you just talked about Meta and Louisiana and all that stuff. What do you think investors are kind of underappreciating most about the story at this point, and maybe where do you see potential upside to where expectations currently are? I know it's kind of a long, maybe tough question, but maybe just a couple points would be, I think helpful because it seems like there's a fair amount of tailwinds here. Thanks.
Speaker #1: Very helpful commentary. Maybe just one follow-up on top of that. Just as we kind of think about the second half of the year, you mentioned the loan growth pipeline, proceeds.
Speaker #1: You obviously talked about credit continuing to get better. You have the cost saves from Progressive coming, and then you just talked about Meta in Louisiana and all that stuff.
Speaker #1: What do you think investors are kind of underappreciating most about the story at this point? And maybe, where do you see potential upside to where expectations currently are?
Speaker #1: I know it's kind of a long, maybe tough question, but maybe just a couple of points would be, I think, helpful because it seems like there's a fair amount of tailwinds here.
Speaker #1: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Sure. Thank you. Well, I think a couple of things. One is that I think historically, investors and analysts have not appreciated—I shouldn't say appreciated.
Jude Melville: Sure, thank you. Well, I think a couple things. One is that I think that historically, investors and analysts have not appreciated, I shouldn't say appreciated, I think they haven't turned to Louisiana for growth, right? Louisiana has historically been a stable place and had a couple periods where we were too concentrated, and that showed up in a couple of energy crises. I think that over time, investors really haven't spent a lot of time looking at or thinking about Louisiana, particularly relative to the more exciting headline news from our neighbor to the west. If you just compare the two over the past 10, 15 years, it's pretty clear why investors would spend more time thinking about Dallas and Houston, which is good for us as well. It means that Louisiana, I think, just hadn't gotten a lot of attention.
Jude Melville: Sure, thank you. Well, I think a couple things. One is that I think that historically, investors and analysts have not appreciated, I shouldn't say appreciated, I think they haven't turned to Louisiana for growth, right? Louisiana has historically been a stable place and had a couple periods where we were too concentrated, and that showed up in a couple of energy crises. I think that over time, investors really haven't spent a lot of time looking at or thinking about Louisiana, particularly relative to the more exciting headline news from our neighbor to the west. If you just compare the two over the past 10, 15 years, it's pretty clear why investors would spend more time thinking about Dallas and Houston, which is good for us as well. It means that Louisiana, I think, just hadn't gotten a lot of attention.
Speaker #5: I think they haven't turned to Louisiana for growth, right? Louisiana has historically been a stable place and had a couple of periods where we were too concentrated and showed up in a couple of energy crises.
Speaker #5: But I think that over time, investors really haven't spent a lot of time looking at or thinking about Louisiana, particularly relative to the more exciting headline news from our neighbor to the west.
Speaker #5: And so if you just compare the two over the past 10 or 15 years, it's pretty clear why investors would spend more time thinking about Dallas and Houston, which is good for us as well.
Speaker #5: But it means that Louisiana, I think, just hadn't gotten a lot of attention. So I don't know that it's my first point would be I don't know that it's they haven't what are they missing?
Jude Melville: My first point would be, I don't know that it's Well, what are they missing? I think it's just that they are only now beginning to realize that they should look harder at Louisiana than they might have over the past 10, 15 years when the news wasn't as growthy as it potentially is now. Second of all, I would say some of the news is recent. The increase in the investment in Meta that I just mentioned literally happened in the last 10 days. I think Sunday night last was the kind of pre-announcement, and they announced it on Monday. It really isn't realistic to expect that investors would pick up on that that quickly. I think some of the news, the data center in Bossier, for example, and the one near St. Francisville, which is north of Baton Rouge.
Jude Melville: My first point would be, I don't know that it's Well, what are they missing? I think it's just that they are only now beginning to realize that they should look harder at Louisiana than they might have over the past 10, 15 years when the news wasn't as growthy as it potentially is now. Second of all, I would say some of the news is recent. The increase in the investment in Meta that I just mentioned literally happened in the last 10 days. I think Sunday night last was the kind of pre-announcement, and they announced it on Monday. It really isn't realistic to expect that investors would pick up on that that quickly. I think some of the news, the data center in Bossier, for example, and the one near St. Francisville, which is north of Baton Rouge.
Speaker #5: I think it's just that they are only now beginning to realize that they should look harder at Louisiana than they might have over the past 10 or 15 years, when the news wasn't as growthy as it potentially is now.
Speaker #5: And then, second of all, I would say some of the news is recent. The increase in the investment in Meta that I just mentioned literally happened in the last 10 days.
Speaker #5: I think Sunday night last was the kind of pre-announcement, and they announced it on Monday. That investors would pick up on that that quickly.
Speaker #5: And then I think some of the news—the data center in Bozor, for example, and the one near St. Francisville, which is north of Baton Rouge.
Speaker #5: I mean, I just think it's all a bit new, and I think as a country, we're still figuring out exactly what data center development is going to look like, right?
Jude Melville: I just think it's all a bit new. I think as a country, we're still figuring out exactly what data center development's going to look like, right? What the actual impact is going to be. One reason that I feel comfortable that it's going to be extremely positive here is that we haven't had those significant growth opportunities. On a relative basis, we have more room to grow than some other places do. Whatever the development is, whether it's a quarter of what it sounds like it's going to be, or whether it's 50% or whether it's 100%, it's going to be significant. I think unless you've already been paying attention here, it might be hard to kind of put that in the proper context. I think it's moving quickly.
Jude Melville: I just think it's all a bit new. I think as a country, we're still figuring out exactly what data center development's going to look like, right? What the actual impact is going to be. One reason that I feel comfortable that it's going to be extremely positive here is that we haven't had those significant growth opportunities. On a relative basis, we have more room to grow than some other places do. Whatever the development is, whether it's a quarter of what it sounds like it's going to be, or whether it's 50% or whether it's 100%, it's going to be significant. I think unless you've already been paying attention here, it might be hard to kind of put that in the proper context. I think it's moving quickly.
Speaker #5: And what the actual impact is going to be. One reason that I feel comfortable that it’s going to be extremely positive here is that we haven’t had those significant growth opportunities.
Speaker #5: So, on a relative basis, we have more room to grow than some other places do. And so whatever the development is—whether it's a quarter of what it sounds like it's going to be, or whether it's 50%, or whether it's 100%—it's going to be significant.
Speaker #5: And I think unless you've already been paying attention here, it might be hard to kind of put that in the proper context. So, I think it's moving quickly.
Speaker #5: I think that there are still some unknowns nationally about the economic flow and transfer, and the trickle-down effect. And so we'll all have to kind of learn that together.
Jude Melville: I think that there are still some unknowns nationally about the economic flow and transfer and the trickle-down effect. So we'll all have to kind of learn that together. I do believe, given our starting point in Louisiana, that it's hard to imagine that it won't be a net very positive outcome.
Jude Melville: I think that there are still some unknowns nationally about the economic flow and transfer and the trickle-down effect. So we'll all have to kind of learn that together. I do believe, given our starting point in Louisiana, that it's hard to imagine that it won't be a net very positive outcome.
Speaker #5: But I do believe, given our starting point in Louisiana, that it's hard to imagine it won't be a net very positive outcome.
Speaker #1: I appreciate all the color. I'll step back. Thanks, guys.
Michael Rose: I appreciate all the color. I'll step back. Thanks, guys.
Michael Rose: I appreciate all the color. I'll step back. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #5: Okay.
Jude Melville: Okay.
Jude Melville: Okay.
Speaker #2: And our last question comes from the line of Matt Only with Stephens. Your line is open.
Operator 2: Our last question comes from the line of Matt Olney with Stephens. Your line is open.
Operator: Our last question comes from the line of Matt Olney with Stephens. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: Hey guys, if you follow up here on the credit front—Greg, you mentioned some more resolutions in the back half of the year. Any color as far as anticipated charge-offs from these resolutions?
Matt Olney: Hey, guys. A few follow-ups here. On the credit front, Greg, you mentioned some more resolutions the back H2. Any color as far as anticipated charge-offs from these resolutions?
Matt Olney: Hey, guys. A few follow-ups here. On the credit front, Greg, you mentioned some more resolutions the back H2. Any color as far as anticipated charge-offs from these resolutions?
Speaker #5: Yeah, I would say what we would expect of—and it's hard to say back to historical, because our historical charge-offs were very low, almost nothing.
Greg Robertson: Yeah, I would say what we expect. It's hard to say back to historical because our historical charge-offs were very low, almost nothing. I think high single digits would be something we expect on an annualized basis in a normal quarter, these next two quarters possibly. Then we kind of go from there. If we have something that pops up and we have to take more of a loss, it might look more like what this quarter did.
Greg Robertson: Yeah, I would say what we expect. It's hard to say back to historical because our historical charge-offs were very low, almost nothing. I think high single digits would be something we expect on an annualized basis in a normal quarter, these next two quarters possibly. Then we kind of go from there. If we have something that pops up and we have to take more of a loss, it might look more like what this quarter did.
Speaker #5: I think high single digits would be something we expect on an annualized basis in a normal quarter in these next two quarters, possibly. And then we kind of go from there.
Speaker #5: And if we have something that pops up and we have to take more of a lawsuit, it might look more like what this quarter did.
Speaker #5: We think we're working them close to where there aren't going to be any significant losses. But we're in the risk business, so it's hard to say.
Matt Olney: Okay.
Matt Olney: Okay.
Greg Robertson: We think we're working them close to where they're not going to be any significant losses. We're in the risk business, so it's hard to say no losses, Matt.
Greg Robertson: We think we're working them close to where they're not going to be any significant losses. We're in the risk business, so it's hard to say no losses, Matt.
Speaker #5: No losses, Matt.
Speaker #6: Understood. Thanks for the color. Regarding market disruption in your marketplace, I know we've talked a lot about this over the last year, and you've had some nice wins and made some announcements about new hires.
Matt Olney: Understood. Thanks for the color. Then market disruption in your marketplace. I know we've talked a lot about this over the last year, you've had some nice wins, nice announcements from some new hires. Didn't know if there was any other announcements or updates to any more benefits from market disruption.
Matt Olney: Understood. Thanks for the color. Then market disruption in your marketplace. I know we've talked a lot about this over the last year, you've had some nice wins, nice announcements from some new hires. Didn't know if there was any other announcements or updates to any more benefits from market disruption.
Speaker #6: Didn't know if there were any other announcements or updates, or any bit more benefits for market disruption.
Jude Melville: Well, we were able to add two or three members to the team in Houston in Q2. We feel like for now, we want to kind of consider that our team, and we want to begin producing and making sure that that's clicking the way that it should. I do anticipate as we have success that there will be other opportunities to add to that team. I know our market leader there, as regular, is called upon regularly by folks that are interested in talking. Again, I think we're kind of where we want to be for the short run.
Jude Melville: Well, we were able to add two or three members to the team in Houston in Q2. We feel like for now, we want to kind of consider that our team, and we want to begin producing and making sure that that's clicking the way that it should. I do anticipate as we have success that there will be other opportunities to add to that team. I know our market leader there, as regular, is called upon regularly by folks that are interested in talking. Again, I think we're kind of where we want to be for the short run.
Speaker #5: Well, we were able to add two or three members to the team in Houston in the second quarter. And so, we feel like, for now, we want to consider that our team, and we want to begin producing and making sure that that's clicking the way that it should.
Speaker #5: But I do anticipate, as we have success, that there will be other opportunities to add to that team. I know our market leader there is regularly called upon by folks who are interested in talking.
Speaker #5: And again, I think we're kind of where we want to be for the short run, but I do think, over the long run, our biggest opportunity is one of the biggest reasons that I mentioned earlier—and Greg mentioned—the primary use for our capital in upcoming quarters is likely to be organic, because we do believe there is continued opportunity around that disruption.
Jude Melville: I do think over the long run, our biggest opportunity, and it is one of the biggest reasons that I mentioned earlier, and Greg mentioned the primary use for our capital in the upcoming quarters is likely to be organic because we do believe there is continued opportunity around that disruption. I do not see that tailing off in the near term. We are having a few conversations in Dallas. We are not quite as aggressive in Dallas as we are in Houston just because of the relative size of our franchise in each. We made that investment in Texas Citizens a few years ago, and we want to be sure that we invest properly in that market. We do still need to be tempered in our salary expectations. We have made commitments to you and to ourselves about our increased structural profitability.
Jude Melville: I do think over the long run, our biggest opportunity, and it is one of the biggest reasons that I mentioned earlier, and Greg mentioned the primary use for our capital in the upcoming quarters is likely to be organic because we do believe there is continued opportunity around that disruption. I do not see that tailing off in the near term. We are having a few conversations in Dallas. We are not quite as aggressive in Dallas as we are in Houston just because of the relative size of our franchise in each. We made that investment in Texas Citizens a few years ago, and we want to be sure that we invest properly in that market. We do still need to be tempered in our salary expectations. We have made commitments to you and to ourselves about our increased structural profitability.
Speaker #5: And I don't see that tailing off in the near term. So, we're having a few conversations in Dallas, but we're not quite as aggressive in Dallas as we are in Houston.
Speaker #5: Just because of the relative size of our franchise. And we feel like Houston is—well, we made that investment in Texas Citizens a few years ago, and we want to be sure that we invest properly, too, in that market.
Speaker #5: But we do still need to be tempered in, and we've made commitments to ourselves about our increased structural profitability. So we want to be sure that we follow through on those, even while we're taking advantage of the opportunities.
Jude Melville: We want to be sure that we follow through on those even while we are taking advantage of the opportunities. We do see continued opportunities on the disruption front. If you think about the banks that have our kind of range of size and capability, there are not very many of us in Louisiana and in Texas, and in particular in Dallas and Houston. We see that not only disruption as a possibility in terms of employees coming over, but also in terms of types and sizes of businesses that are looking for a bank that is a community bank in attitude, but is a larger bank in terms of capabilities. We are most excited about the potentials for our franchise, the potential for our franchise, given that disruption, which we think will continue to be an opportunity.
Jude Melville: We want to be sure that we follow through on those even while we are taking advantage of the opportunities. We do see continued opportunities on the disruption front. If you think about the banks that have our kind of range of size and capability, there are not very many of us in Louisiana and in Texas, and in particular in Dallas and Houston. We see that not only disruption as a possibility in terms of employees coming over, but also in terms of types and sizes of businesses that are looking for a bank that is a community bank in attitude, but is a larger bank in terms of capabilities. We are most excited about the potentials for our franchise, the potential for our franchise, given that disruption, which we think will continue to be an opportunity.
Speaker #5: But we do see continued opportunities on the disruption front. And if you think about the banks that have our kind of range of size and capability, there aren't very many of us in Louisiana.
Speaker #5: And in Texas, and in particular in Dallas and Houston. So, we see that not only is there disruption as a possibility in terms of employees coming over, but also in terms of the types and sizes of businesses. They're looking for a bank that is a community bank in attitude, but is a larger bank in terms of capabilities.
Speaker #5: So we're most excited about the potentials for our franchise, the potential for our franchise given that disruption, which we think will continue to be an opportunity.
Speaker #5: I started rambling a little bit. I think I answered your question. Did I answer your question, Matt?
Matt Olney: Yep.
Matt Olney: Yep.
Jude Melville: I started rambling a little bit. I think I answered your question. Did I answer your question, Matt?
Jude Melville: I started rambling a little bit. I think I answered your question. Did I answer your question, Matt?
Matt Olney: You answered it and then some. Appreciate all the great color as always.
Matt Olney: You answered it and then some. Appreciate all the great color as always.
Speaker #6: Jude, you answered it and then some. I really appreciate all the green colors, all the way.
Jude Melville: I answered your follow-on question. Good.
Jude Melville: I answered your follow-on question. Good.
Speaker #5: I answered your follow-on question. Yes.
Speaker #6: Well, just one last one from me here. We've talked a lot about the ROA goal, the 1.25 exiting the year, and the fourth quarter.
Matt Olney: Well, just one last one from me here. We've talked a lot about the ROA goal, the 125 exiting the year in Q4, and would love to hear any more commentary about that with respect to this quarter, especially the balance sheet repositioning. I would think that would be supportive of the ROA, given the lower yielding nature of those loans that were sold. Anyway, just love any commentary from that. Thanks.
Matt Olney: Well, just one last one from me here. We've talked a lot about the ROA goal, the 125 exiting the year in Q4, and would love to hear any more commentary about that with respect to this quarter, especially the balance sheet repositioning. I would think that would be supportive of the ROA, given the lower yielding nature of those loans that were sold. Anyway, just love any commentary from that. Thanks.
Speaker #6: And would love to hear any more commentary about that with respect to this quarter, especially the balance sheet repositioning. I would think that would be supportive of the ROA, given the lower-yielding nature of those loans that were sold.
Speaker #6: But anyway, just love any commentary on that. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Well, that's kind of what I was generally starting off with in my prepared remarks—just about this being a good step along the plan that we've been articulating for you all over the past few quarters and our intention to increase our structural profitability even as we have growth.
Jude Melville: Yeah. Well, that's kind of what I generally was starting off with in my prepared remarks, just about this being a good step along the plan that we've been articulating for you all over the past few quarters and our intention to increase our structural profitability even as we have growth. We feel like we are on plan. It doesn't mean that it's a slam dunk, and it doesn't mean that it's automatic that we'll be able to get to the one and a quarter ROA, we still believe if we perform and execute and things go our way, that is a credible opportunity for us to kind of reset our structural profitability. That's the goal for the rest of the year.
Jude Melville: Yeah. Well, that's kind of what I generally was starting off with in my prepared remarks, just about this being a good step along the plan that we've been articulating for you all over thepast few quarters and our intention to increase our structural profitability even as we have growth. We feel like we are on plan. It doesn't mean that it's a slam dunk, and it doesn't mean that it's automatic that we'll be able to get to the one and a quarter ROA, we still believe if we perform and execute and things go our way, that is a credible opportunity for us to kind of reset our structural profitability. That's the goal for the rest of the year.
Speaker #5: And we feel like we are on plan. And it doesn't mean that it's a slam dunk. And it doesn't mean that it's automatic that we'll be able to get to the one and a quarter ROA.
Speaker #5: But we still believe if we perform and execute, and things go our way, that that is a credible opportunity for us to kind of reset our structural profitability, and that's the goal for the rest of the year.
Speaker #5: Even if we were to not quite get there, we've still made material improvement, and we still plan to continue to have that focus next year as well.
Jude Melville: Even if we were to not quite get there, we've still made material improvement and still plan to continue to have that focus next year as well. We'll continue working on it. That's our primary goal. Yes, I think to get there, it is going to require that this pipeline comes to fruition to a certain extent. I think it also requires some margin expansion, which to your point, the restructuring is a significant boost to those efforts as well as the loan growth. It requires continued discipline on expenses. We've had really flat salary cost over the past 4 quarters essentially, and anticipate that continuing over the next couple, certainly. Our team has been improving its ability to be productive.
Jude Melville: Even if we were to not quite get there, we've still made material improvement and still plan to continue to have that focus next year as well. We'll continue working on it. That's our primary goal. Yes, I think to get there, it is going to require that this pipeline comes to fruition to a certain extent. I think it also requires some margin expansion, which to your point, the restructuring is a significant boost to those efforts as well as the loan growth. It requires continued discipline on expenses. We've had really flat salary cost over the past 4 quarters essentially, and anticipate that continuing over the next couple, certainly. Our team has been improving its ability to be productive.
Speaker #5: And we'll continue working on it. That's our primary goal. And yes, I think to get there, it's going to require that this pipeline comes to fruition to a certain extent.
Speaker #5: And I think it also requires some margin expansion, which, to your point, the restructuring is a significant boost to those efforts—as well as the loan growth.
Speaker #5: And then it requires continued discipline on expenses, and we've had really flat salary costs over the past four quarters, essentially, and anticipate that continuing over the next couple, certainly.
Speaker #5: And our team has been improving its ability to be productive, so we're significantly larger than we were a year and a half ago, two years ago.
Jude Melville: We're significantly larger than we were a year and a half ago, 2 years ago, and have a very similar number of people at the bank. I'm proud of that. It's certainly a part of our daily conversation. How can we help our employees be the most they can be, which helps us be the most we can be from a production and a profitability standpoint. Yes, that's still our target, and we do need to execute, and things need to go our way, but we feel like that's a realistic path that we're focused on achieving. A little bit of a stretch when we laid it out last year. If you don't stretch yourself, you don't get anywhere. We're excited about that. I do think that it's time for us to produce at that level of profitability as a franchise.
Jude Melville: We're significantly larger than we were a year and a half ago, 2 years ago, and have a very similar number of people at the bank. I'm proud of that. It's certainly a part of our daily conversation. How can we help our employees be the most they can be, which helps us be the most we can be from a production and a profitability standpoint. Yes, that's still our target, and we do need to execute, and things need to go our way, but we feel like that's a realistic path that we're focused on achieving. A little bit of a stretch when we laid it out last year. If you don't stretch yourself, you don't get anywhere. We're excited about that. I do think that it's time for us to produce at that level of profitability as a franchise.
Speaker #5: And have a very similar number of people at the bank, and we're proud of that. And it's certainly a part of our daily conversation: how can we help our employees be the most they can be, which helps us be the most we can be from a production and profitability standpoint?
Speaker #5: So yes, that's still our target. And we do need to execute, and things need to go our way, but we feel like that's a realistic path that we're focused on achieving.
Speaker #5: It was a little bit of a stretch when we laid it out last year, but if you don't stretch yourself, then you don't get anywhere. So, we're excited about that.
Speaker #5: And I do think that it's time for us to produce at that level of profitability as a franchise. We're 20 years old. We've got to go through the different list of things that we've accomplished.
Jude Melville: We're 20 years old. If you go through the different list of things that we've accomplished, the list is pretty long, and we've checked a lot of boxes in terms of our ability to grow, in terms of our ability to do M&A, in terms of our ability to see through asset quality challenges, our ability to see through loan concentrations that have evolved over the years. Then as with all banks that are our age, to see through a number of macro crises that have occurred even while we've grown to 9 billion. We're very proud of all that. That only really matters at the end of the day if we then end up providing the right return to shareholders. That means turning these investments into consistent profitability, which is our goal, and I think we're well on our way towards doing that.
Jude Melville: We're 20 years old. If you go through the different list of things that we've accomplished, the list is pretty long, and we've checked a lot of boxes in terms of our ability to grow, in terms of our ability to do M&A, in terms of our ability to see through asset quality challenges, our ability to see through loan concentrations that have evolved over the years. Then as with all banks that are our age, to see through a number of macro crises that have occurred even while we've grown to 9 billion. We're very proud of all that. That only really matters at the end of the day if we then end up providing the right return to shareholders. That means turning these investments into consistent profitability, which is our goal, and I think we're well on our way towards doing that.
Speaker #5: The list is pretty long, and we've checked a lot of boxes in terms of our ability to grow, in terms of our ability to do M&A, in terms of our ability to see through asset quality challenges, and our ability to see through loan concentrations that have developed over the years.
Speaker #5: And then, as with all banks that are our age, we've had to see through a number of macro crises that have occurred, even while we've grown to $9 billion.
Speaker #5: So we're very proud of all that, but that only really matters at the end of the day if we then end up providing the right return to shareholders.
Speaker #5: And that means turning these investments into consistent profitability, which is our goal. I think we're well on our way to doing that.
Speaker #6: Okay, that's perfect. Thank you, Jude.
Matt Olney: Okay. That's perfect. Thank you, Jude.
Matt Olney: Okay. That's perfect. Thank you, Jude.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Yeah, I want to mention—just on the same subject—that we did get a written-in question about dividends and our intentions there. And so, we did declare a dividend that we announced in the press release.
Jude Melville: Thank you. Yeah. I want to mention just on the same subject, we did get a written in question about dividends and our intentions there. We did declare a dividend that we announced in the press release, and it was a consistent dividend with where we were last quarter. We've now, I believe, 7 years in a row, once we started paying a dividend, we have increased it 7 years in a row, and we'd still like for that to be our goal. We feel like we have 50% of our shareholders who are retail investors that have partnered with us and stuck with us through these acquisitions, and the dividend's important to them as it is to us. We'll continue the dividend path, and the goal would be to incrementally increase on an annual basis.
Jude Melville: Thank you. Yeah. I want to mention just on the same subject, we did get a written in question about dividends and our intentions there. We did declare a dividend that we announced in the press release, and it was a consistent dividend with where we were last quarter. We've now, I believe, 7 years in a row, once we started paying a dividend, we have increased it 7 years in a row, and we'd still like for that to be our goal. We feel like we have 50% of our shareholders who are retail investors that have partnered with us and stuck with us through these acquisitions, and the dividend's important to them as it is to us. We'll continue the dividend path, and the goal would be to incrementally increase on an annual basis.
Speaker #5: And we've now—and it was a consistent dividend with where we were last quarter. And we've now, I believe, seven years in a row, once we started paying a dividend, we have increased it seven years in a row.
Speaker #5: And we'd still like for that to be our goal. We'd still like—we have 50% of our shareholders who are retail investors that have partnered with us and stuck with us through these acquisitions.
Speaker #5: And the dividend is as important to them as it is to us. And so we'll continue the dividend path, and the goal would be to incrementally increase it on an annual basis.
Speaker #5: So, not on a quarterly basis, but on an annual basis. And so, anyway, I wanted to take an opportunity, since we were talking about that and we've historically kind of targeted about 20% of earnings.
Jude Melville: Not on a quarterly basis, but on an annual basis. Anyway, I wanted to take an opportunity since we were talking about that. We've historically kind of targeted about 20% of earnings. That's roughly where we are now. As our earnings power appreciates, there's no reason to think that to some degree, our opportunity to reward shareholders with dividends would track that increased structural profitability, as has the ability to buy back shares, which again, we've only this year begun to strike opportunistically on that front. That's the result of our earnings leading to increases in capital, which gives us that optionality. We assume that that opportunity will continue as well as we're focused on building tangible book value, and again, that structural earnings increase in our profile. Thanks for letting me answer that other question with your question, Matt.
Jude Melville: Not on a quarterly basis, but on an annual basis. Anyway, I wanted to take an opportunity since we were talking about that. We've historically kind of targeted about 20% of earnings. That's roughly where we are now. As our earnings power appreciates, there's no reason to think that to some degree, our opportunity to reward shareholders with dividends would track that increased structural profitability, as has the ability to buy back shares, which again, we've only this year begun to strike opportunistically on that front. That's the result of our earnings leading to increases in capital, which gives us that optionality. We assume that that opportunity will continue as well as we're focused on building tangible book value, and again, that structural earnings increase in our profile. Thanks for letting me answer that other question with your question, Matt.
Speaker #5: And so that's roughly where we are now. And as our earnings power appreciates, there's no reason to think that, to some degree, our opportunity to reward shareholders with dividends wouldn't track that increased structural profitability—just as has the ability to buy back shares, which, again, we've only this year begun to strike opportunistically on that front.
Speaker #5: And that's the result of our earnings leading to increases in capital, which gives us that optionality. So we assume that that opportunity will continue as well, as we're focused on building tangible book value and, again, that structural earnings increase in our profile.
Speaker #5: Thanks for letting me answer that other question with your question, Matt.
Speaker #1: That concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jude Melville for closing remarks.
Operator 2: That concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jude Melville for closing remarks.
Operator: That concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jude Melville for closing remarks.
Speaker #5: Good. Well, thank you. I appreciate, again, all of y'all joining. I think I had a pretty good opportunity to articulate the things that are important to us and that we're working on, as well as what we see as opportunities.
Jude Melville: Well, thank you. I appreciate, again, all of y'all joining. I think I had a pretty good opportunity to articulate the things that are important to us and that we're working on, what we see as opportunities, all of which should turn into accumulating tangible book value and providing a good return on everybody's investment. I would like to take just a final thought or a final moment to wish our team good luck in August. We'll do the conversion as both Greg and I mentioned. Although we have had experience now and have done it successfully a number of times, it's still a stressful and critical weekend preparing for that. I want to thank and wish the best of luck to not only the former Progressive employees that are now b1 employees, but also our ops teams and everyone that's involved in that process.
Jude Melville: Well, thank you. I appreciate, again, all of y'all joining. I think I had a pretty good opportunity to articulate the things that are important to us and that we're working on, what we see as opportunities, all of which should turn into accumulating tangible book value and providing a good return on everybody's investment. I would like to take just a final thought or a final moment to wish our team good luck in August. We'll do the conversion as both Greg and I mentioned. Although we have had experience now and have done it successfully a number of times, it's still a stressful and critical weekend preparing for that. I want to thank and wish the best of luck to not only the former Progressive employees that are now b1 employees, but also our ops teams and everyone that's involved in that process.
Speaker #5: All of which should turn into accumulating tangible book value and providing a good return on everybody's investment. I would like to take just a final thought, or a final moment, to wish our team good luck in August.
Speaker #5: We'll do the conversion, as both Greg and I mentioned. And although we have had experience now and have done it successfully a number of times, it's still a stressful and critical weekend preparing for that.
Speaker #5: And I want to thank and wish the best of luck to not only the former Progressive employees that are now B1 employees, but also our ops teams and everyone that's involved in that process.
Speaker #5: With our first acquisition, which we did a long time ago now—about 11 years ago—we learned a lot of lessons. And so, we've worked hard to invest in that process.
Jude Melville: Our first acquisition that we did a long time ago now, I guess about 11 years ago, we learned a lot of lessons. We worked hard to invest in that process. I'm really proud of that side of the bank in terms of their ability to execute. We anticipate, particularly based on the positivity with which the Progressive teams have tackled the opportunity, probably as positive as any partners that we've had from that perspective. We're confident that we'll succeed on the conversion weekend, be ready to go in terms of helping provide capital to the communities that we're honored to serve in North Louisiana and of course, across our footprint. Thank you all very much, and hope everybody has a good end of the week.
Jude Melville: Our first acquisition that we did a long time ago now, I guess about 11 years ago, we learned a lot of lessons. We worked hard to invest in that process. I'm really proud of that side of the bank in terms of their ability to execute. We anticipate, particularly based on the positivity with which the Progressive teams have tackled the opportunity, probably as positive as any partners that we've had from that perspective. We're confident that we'll succeed on the conversion weekend, be ready to go in terms of helping provide capital to the communities that we're honored to serve in North Louisiana and of course, across our footprint. Thank you all very much, and hope everybody has a good end of the week.
Speaker #5: And I'm really proud of that side of the bank, in terms of their ability to execute. And we anticipate, particularly based on the positivity with which the progressive teams have tackled the opportunity.
Speaker #5: Probably as positive as any partners that we've had on that perspective. And we're confident that we'll succeed on the conversion weekend and then be ready to go in terms of helping provide capital to the communities that we're honored to serve in North Louisiana and, of course, across our footprint.
Speaker #5: So thank you all very much, and I hope everybody has a good end of the week.
Operator 2: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.