Q2 2026 Spin Master Corp Earnings Call
Operator 2: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Spin Master Q2 2026 results conference call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session for analysts. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded today, Thursday, 30 July 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Foran, VP Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Spin Master Q2 2026 results conference call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session for analysts. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded today, Thursday, 30 July 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Foran, VP Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session for analysts. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator.
Speaker #1: This call is being recorded today, Thursday, July 30, 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Team Foreign. VP Investor Relations, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining our call. With me here today are our CEO, Christina Miller, and our CFO, Jonathan Roiter.
Tim Foran: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. With me here today are our CEO, Christina Miller, and our CFO, Jonathan Roiter. For your convenience, the press release, MD&A, and consolidated financial statements are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at spinmaster.com and on SEDAR+. Before we begin, please note that remarks on this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about Spin Master's current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements, and any other future events or developments. Forward-looking statements are based on currently available information and assumptions that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that such assumptions will prove to be correct, and many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those expected or implied by the forward-looking statements.
Tim Foran: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. With me here today are our CEO, Christina Miller, and our CFO, Jonathan Roiter. For your convenience, the press release, MD&A, and consolidated financial statements are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at spinmaster.com and on SEDAR+. Before we begin, please note that remarks on this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about Spin Master's current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements, and any other future events or developments. Forward-looking statements are based on currently available information and assumptions that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that such assumptions will prove to be correct, and many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those expected or implied by the forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: For your convenience, the press release MD&A and consolidated financial statements are available on the Investor Relations section of our website, at spinmaster.com, and on Cedar Plus.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, please note that remarks on this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about Spin Master's current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements, and any other future events or developments.
Speaker #2: Forward-looking statements are based on currently available information, an assumptions that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that such assumptions will prove to be correct, and many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those expected or implied by the forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: As a result, your caution not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For additional information on these assumptions and risks, please consult cautionary statements regarding forward-looking information in our earnings release dated July 30, 2026.
Tim Foran: As a result, you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For additional information on these assumptions and risks, please consult cautionary statements regarding forward-looking information in our earnings release dated 30 July 2026. Except as may be required by law, Spin Master disclaims any intention to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Please note that Spin Master reports in US dollars and all dollar amounts today are expressed in US currency unless otherwise noted. Also, all industry data that we reference related to toys is from Circana LLC Retail Tracking Service and relates to data from our G11 markets, which are specified in our Q2 2026 supplementary presentation available on our investors website. Unless noted otherwise, all percentage growth rates refer to the period ending 30 June 2026, relative to the same period in 2025.
Tim Foran: As a result, you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For additional information on these assumptions and risks, please consult cautionary statements regarding forward-looking information in our earnings release dated 30 July 2026. Except as may be required by law, Spin Master disclaims any intention to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Please note that Spin Master reports in US dollars and all dollar amounts today are expressed in US currency unless otherwise noted. Also, all industry data that we reference related to toys is from Circana LLC Retail Tracking Service and relates to data from our G11 markets, which are specified in our Q2 2026 supplementary presentation available on our investors website. Unless noted otherwise, all percentage growth rates refer to the period ending 30 June 2026, relative to the same period in 2025.
Speaker #2: Except as may be required by law, Spin Master disclaims any intention to update or revise any forward-looking statements whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise.
Speaker #2: Please note that Spin Master reports in US dollars and all dollar amounts today are expressed in US currency unless otherwise noted. Also, all industry data that we reference related to toys, is from Circana LLC, retail tracking service, and relates to data from our G11 markets, which are specified in our Q2, 2026, supplementary presentation available on our Investors website.
Speaker #2: Unless noted otherwise, all percentage growth rates refer to the periods ending June 30, 2026, relative to the same period in 2025. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Christina.
Tim Foran: I would now like to turn the conference call over to Christina.
Tim Foran: I would now like to turn the conference call over to Christina.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tim, and good morning to everyone who is joining us for our second quarter call. We had another strong quarter. Which has powered our return to profitable growth, and we are making progress on our three 2026 priorities and long-term growth strategy, which has as well positioned as we enter the second half of the year.
Christina Miller: Thank you, Tim, and good morning to everyone who is joining us for our Q2 call. We had another strong quarter, which has powered our return to profitable growth, and we are making progress on our three 2026 priorities and long-term growth strategy, which has us well-positioned as we enter the H2 of the year. Our financial results came in ahead of expectations we outlined. This was driven by strong selling of our core brands, including PAW Patrol, Monster Jam, and GUND. We benefited from growth in our CrystaLynx, Primal Hatch, and Cool Maker. We also introduced multiple new products, Magic Jellykins, Bitzee Aquarium, Peekimo, and Rubik's Rush. We have an incredible amount of innovation in our 2026 toy portfolio, a credit to our design and development team, and increased collaboration across the global organization. We have three core priorities for 2026.
Christina Miller: Thank you, Tim, and good morning to everyone who is joining us for our Q2 call. We had another strong quarter, which has powered our return to profitable growth, and we are making progress on our three 2026 priorities and long-term growth strategy, which has us well-positioned as we enter the H2 of the year. Our financial results came in ahead of expectations we outlined. This was driven by strong selling of our core brands, including PAW Patrol, Monster Jam, and GUND. We benefited from growth in our CrystaLynx, Primal Hatch, and Cool Maker. We also introduced multiple new products, Magic Jellykins, Bitzee Aquarium, Peekimo, and Rubik's Rush. We have an incredible amount of innovation in our 2026 toy portfolio, a credit to our design and development team, and increased collaboration across the global organization. We have three core priorities for 2026.
Speaker #3: Our financial results came in ahead of expectations we outlined. This was driven by strong sell-in of our core brands, including Paw Patrol, Monster Jam, and Gund, and we've benefited from growth in our 4D, Crystal Lynx, Primal Hatch, and Cool Maker.
Speaker #3: We also introduced multiple new products, Magic Jelly Cans, Bitsies, Aquarium, Pikimo, and Rubik's Rush. We have an incredible amount of innovation in our 2026 toy portfolio, accredited to our design and development team, and increased collaboration across the global organization.
Speaker #3: We have three core priorities for 2026. One, capture the Paw Patrol movie moment across each of the three Creative Centers. Two, return Melissa & Doug to growth.
Christina Miller: One, capture the PAW Patrol movie moment across each of the three creative centers. Two, return Melissa & Doug to growth. Three, fully realize the value of Toca Boca by providing more opportunities for fans to engage with the brand. Starting with PAW Patrol, Dino Movie will hit theaters in two short weeks, 14 August. The second trailer for the movie dropped on 11 June and had 110 million views in the first week, significantly better than the first two movies. Excitement for the movie is building with positive buzz from families and for the new single from the Backstreet Boys, "Bottle Up." The Dino Movie is well-positioned with its target audience and is generally tracking at or above the last two movies. The movie is a priority for our partner, Paramount, to maximize franchise impact.
Christina Miller: One, capture the PAW Patrol movie moment across each of the three creative centers. Two, return Melissa & Doug to growth. Three, fully realize the value of Toca Boca by providing more opportunities for fans to engage with the brand. Starting with PAW Patrol, Dino Movie will hit theaters in two short weeks, 14 August. The second trailer for the movie dropped on 11 June and had 110 million views in the first week, significantly better than the first two movies. Excitement for the movie is building with positive buzz from families and for the new single from the Backstreet Boys, "Bottle Up." The Dino Movie is well-positioned with its target audience and is generally tracking at or above the last two movies. The movie is a priority for our partner, Paramount, to maximize franchise impact.
Speaker #3: And three, fully realize the value of Toka Boka by providing more opportunities for fans to engage with the brand. Starting with Paw Patrol, Dino Movie.
Speaker #3: We'll hit theaters in two short weeks, on August 14. The second trailer for the movie dropped on June 11 and had 110 million views in the first week, significantly better than the first two movies.
Speaker #3: Excitement for the movie is building with positive buzz from families and for the new single from the Backstreet Boys, Bottle Up. The Dino Movie is well positioned with its target audience and is generally tracking at or above the last two movies.
Speaker #3: The movie is a priority for our partner, Paramount. To maximize franchise impact, the marketing team is delivering a unified campaign by leveraging the full breadth of Paramount's ecosystem.
Christina Miller: The marketing team is delivering a unified campaign by leveraging the full breadth of Paramount's ecosystem. Within our own entertainment center, the Q2, we announced that PAW Patrol and Rubble & Crew have been renewed with Nickelodeon. This pickup marks season 14 and 15 for PAW Patrol and seasons five and six for Rubble & Crew. Season 14 of PAW Patrol drops today. The franchise continues to rank as the number one preschool series year-to-date, and we continue to grow on YouTube, part of our approach to always be where kids are. Within toys, the PAW Patrol movie line launched on Amazon, Target, and Walmart.com in July and will be in store at Walmart in early August. Early reads are positive. We have curated content and programs for each major retailer in support of the movie toy line.
Christina Miller: The marketing team is delivering a unified campaign by leveraging the full breadth of Paramount's ecosystem. Within our own entertainment center, the Q2, we announced that PAW Patrol and Rubble & Crew have been renewed with Nickelodeon. This pickup marks season 14 and 15 for PAW Patrol and seasons five and six for Rubble & Crew. Season 14 of PAW Patrol drops today. The franchise continues to rank as the number one preschool series year-to-date, and we continue to grow on YouTube, part of our approach to always be where kids are. Within toys, the PAW Patrol movie line launched on Amazon, Target, and Walmart.com in July and will be in store at Walmart in early August. Early reads are positive. We have curated content and programs for each major retailer in support of the movie toy line.
Speaker #3: Within our own entertainment center, the second quarter, we announced a Paw Patrol and Rubble and Crew have been renewed with Nickelodeon. This pickup marks Season 14 and 15 for Paw Patrol and Seasons 5 and 6 for Rubble and Crew.
Speaker #3: Season 14 of Paw Patrol drops today. The franchise continues to rank as the number one preschool series year to date, and we continue to grow on YouTube, part of our approach to always be where kids are.
Speaker #3: Within toys, the Paw Patrol movie line launched on Amazon, Target, and Walmart.com in July, and will be in-store at Walmart in early August. Early reads are positive.
Speaker #3: We have curated content and programs for each major retailer in support of the movie toy line. This includes social content for Walmart and Target with key movie talent, as well as an integrated marketing campaign with Amazon featuring close to a million branded PAW Patrol Dino boxes for delivery.
Christina Miller: This includes social content for Walmart and Target with key movie talent, as well as an integrated marketing campaign with Amazon featuring close to 1 million branded PAW Patrol Dino boxes for delivery. We sold down our inventory in stores in H1. Therefore, we believe we have a healthy inventory level to support sales. Within digital games, we will officially launch our new PAW Patrol game with marketing support around the movie release. It will be launched as a standalone game and available to play for free with in-app purchases. Turning to Melissa & Doug, during Q2, revenues were down, but this was anticipated. As you will recall, unlike Spin Master Toys, Melissa & Doug had a challenging comp this quarter. Its revenues increased almost 40% last Q2 2025, as it held considerable domestic inventory last year that we were able to monetize.
Christina Miller: This includes social content for Walmart and Target with key movie talent, as well as an integrated marketing campaign with Amazon featuring close to 1 million branded PAW Patrol Dino boxes for delivery. We sold down our inventory in stores in H1. Therefore, we believe we have a healthy inventory level to support sales. Within digital games, we will officially launch our new PAW Patrol game with marketing support around the movie release. It will be launched as a standalone game and available to play for free with in-app purchases. Turning to Melissa & Doug, during Q2, revenues were down, but this was anticipated. As you will recall, unlike Spin Master Toys, Melissa & Doug had a challenging comp this quarter. Its revenues increased almost 40% last Q2 2025, as it held considerable domestic inventory last year that we were able to monetize.
Speaker #3: We sold down our inventory in stores in the first half of the year; therefore, we believe we have a healthy inventory level to support sales.
Speaker #3: Within digital games, we will officially launch our new Paw Patrol game, with release. It will be launched as a standalone game and available to play for free with in-app purchases.
Speaker #3: Turning to Melissa and Doug. During the second quarter, revenues were down, but this was anticipated. As you will recall, unlike Spin Master toys, Melissa and Doug had to challenging comp this quarter.
Speaker #3: Its revenues increased almost 40% last Q2, 2025, as it held considerable domestic inventory last year that we were able to monetize. We supported retail partners through heightened promotional activity to drive share and strategically move inventory into off-price and discount channels to meet retailer demand for onshore product and availability.
Christina Miller: We supported retail partners through heightened promotional activity to drive share and strategically move inventory into off-price and discount channels to meet retailer demand for onshore product and availability. Positively, Melissa & Doug's gross profit was stable year-over-year due to the expansion in gross margin. The team is executing well on our return-to-growth strategy. This includes reclaiming market share through innovation with new items for the fall, such as Cheery Lane and new licensed product, both which are tracking well out of the gate. Cheery Lane is a new toy collection featuring play sets, vehicles, and figures designed for the way kids play to help encourage developmental skills for toddlers and preschoolers. Our growth strategy also includes strategic partnerships. In the quarter, we announced collaborations with cult favorite ice cream brand Van Leeuwen for a limited edition collection of toys.
Christina Miller: We supported retail partners through heightened promotional activity to drive share and strategically move inventory into off-price and discount channels to meet retailer demand for onshore product and availability. Positively, Melissa & Doug's gross profit was stable year-over-year due to the expansion in gross margin. The team is executing well on our return-to-growth strategy. This includes reclaiming market share through innovation with new items for the fall, such as Cheery Lane and new licensed product, both which are tracking well out of the gate. Cheery Lane is a new toy collection featuring play sets, vehicles, and figures designed for the way kids play to help encourage developmental skills for toddlers and preschoolers. Our growth strategy also includes strategic partnerships. In the quarter, we announced collaborations with cult favorite ice cream brand Van Leeuwen for a limited edition collection of toys.
Speaker #3: Positively, Melissa and Doug's gross profit was stable year over year due to the expansion in gross margin. The team is executing well, on our return to growth strategy.
Speaker #3: This includes reclaiming market share through innovation with new items for the fall, such as Cheery Lane and new licensed product. Both, which are tracking well out of the gate, Cheery Lane is a new toy collection featuring playsets, vehicles, and figures designed for the way kids play to help encourage developmental skills for toddlers and preschoolers.
Speaker #3: Our growth strategy also includes strategic partnerships. In the quarter, we announced collaborations with Cult Favorite Ice Cream brand, Van Leeuwen, for a limited edition collection of toys.
Speaker #3: The Van Leeuwen ice cream counter has been our number one D2C item since launch. Through our partnership with Penguin Random House, we will also be expanding the brand beyond the toy aisle into publishing.
Christina Miller: The Van Leeuwen ice cream counter has been our number 1 D2C item since launch. Through our partnership with Penguin Random House, we will also be expanding the brand beyond the toy aisle into publishing, with a line of Melissa & Doug books anticipated to launch this fall. Additionally, we have increased our shelf space with key retailers. Finally, fully realizing the potential of Toca Boca by providing more opportunities for its millions of fans to engage with the brand. We are bringing the brand off the screen and into stores with the launch of an exclusive lifestyle collection in more than 350 MINISO stores across the US, available next month, just in time for back to school. With Toca Boca World itself, we are also providing kids more opportunities to express themselves.
Christina Miller: The Van Leeuwen ice cream counter has been our number 1 D2C item since launch. Through our partnership with Penguin Random House, we will also be expanding the brand beyond the toy aisle into publishing, with a line of Melissa & Doug books anticipated to launch this fall. Additionally, we have increased our shelf space with key retailers. Finally, fully realizing the potential of Toca Boca by providing more opportunities for its millions of fans to engage with the brand. We are bringing the brand off the screen and into stores with the launch of an exclusive lifestyle collection in more than 350 MINISO stores across the US, available next month, just in time for back to school. With Toca Boca World itself, we are also providing kids more opportunities to express themselves.
Speaker #3: With a line of Melissa and Doug books anticipated to launch this fall. Additionally, we have increased our shelf space with key retailers. Finally, fully realizing the potential of Toka Boka by providing more opportunities for its millions of fans to engage with the brand.
Speaker #3: We are bringing the brand off the screen and into stores with the launch of an exclusive lifestyle collection in more than 350 Miniso stores across the US.
Speaker #3: Available next month. Just in time for Back to School. With Toka Boka World itself, we are also providing kids more opportunities to express themselves.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we advanced our music strategy by bringing tweens closer to the music they love with hit songs from popular artists like Olivia Rodrigo, Sienna Spiro, and Twice.
Christina Miller: During the quarter, we advanced our music strategy by bringing tweens closer to the music they love, with hit songs from popular artists like Olivia Rodrigo, Sienna Spiro, and TWICE, providing a personalized soundtrack for players. The immersive experience creates a powerful new way for artists to connect with our fans across 173 countries. It also underscores the importance of music as a key driver of identity and self-expression for kids and tweens. Building on proven success and prior music collaborations with Conan Gray, Cat's Eye, and Wicked. In H2, you can expect to see more high-profile collaborations between Toca Boca and global brands and entertainment franchises. Toca Boca World's underlying operational performance was stable in Q2, with a decline in monthly active users, essentially offset by improved conversion percentage and increased average revenue per paying user.
Christina Miller: During the quarter, we advanced our music strategy by bringing tweens closer to the music they love, with hit songs from popular artists like Olivia Rodrigo, Sienna Spiro, and TWICE, providing a personalized soundtrack for players. The immersive experience creates a powerful new way for artists to connect with our fans across 173 countries. It also underscores the importance of music as a key driver of identity and self-expression for kids and tweens. Building on proven success and prior music collaborations with Conan Gray, Cat's Eye, and Wicked. In H2, you can expect to see more high-profile collaborations between Toca Boca and global brands and entertainment franchises. Toca Boca World's underlying operational performance was stable in Q2, with a decline in monthly active users, essentially offset by improved conversion percentage and increased average revenue per paying user.
Speaker #3: Providing a personalized soundtrack for players. The immersive experience creates a powerful new way for artists to connect with our fans, across 173 countries. It also underscores the importance of music as a key driver of identity and self-expression for kids and twins.
Speaker #3: Building on proven success and prior music collaborations with Conan Gray, Cat's Eye, and Wicked. In the second half of the year, you can expect to see more high-profile collaborations between Toka Boka and global brands and entertainment franchises.
Speaker #3: Toka Boka World's underlying operational performance was stable in the second quarter. With a decline in monthly active users, essentially offset by improved conversion percentage and increased average revenue per paying user.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on optimizing the user experience, testing new opportunities to increase conversion, increase the frequency of content drops, and adding more high-profile partnerships.
Christina Miller: We remain focused on optimizing the user experience, testing new opportunities to increase conversion, increase the frequency of content drops, and adding more high-profile partnerships. The number of paying users increased from Q1, resulting from these changes. We are also planning to expand mobile monetization with the launch of our D2C web store on Toca Boca World this quarter, which will help us keep more of the net revenue from direct purchases, while also enabling us to potentially increase conversion, retention, and lifetime value. For Piknik, we have increased subscribers since the end of the year, due in part to a new title screen user experience, which has increased free trial conversion and retention. We are rolling it out to additional apps in the bundle. Post-quarter, we are excited to add Gabbys Dollhouse: Cat Games to our subscription bundle.
Christina Miller: We remain focused on optimizing the user experience, testing new opportunities to increase conversion, increase the frequency of content drops, and adding more high-profile partnerships. The number of paying users increased from Q1, resulting from these changes. We are also planning to expand mobile monetization with the launch of our D2C web store on Toca Boca World this quarter, which will help us keep more of the net revenue from direct purchases, while also enabling us to potentially increase conversion, retention, and lifetime value. For Piknik, we have increased subscribers since the end of the year, due in part to a new title screen user experience, which has increased free trial conversion and retention. We are rolling it out to additional apps in the bundle. Post-quarter, we are excited to add Gabbys Dollhouse: Cat Games to our subscription bundle.
Speaker #3: The number of paying users increased from Q1, resulting from these changes. We are also planning to expand mobile monetization with the launch of our D2C web store on Toka Boka World this quarter.
Speaker #3: This will help us keep more of the net revenue from direct purchases, while also enabling us to potentially increase conversion, retention, and lifetime value.
Speaker #3: For Picnic, we have increased subscribers since the end of the year. Due in part to a new title screen user experience, which has increased free trial conversion and retention.
Speaker #3: We are rolling it out to additional apps in the bundle post-quarter. We are excited to add Gabby's Dollhouse: Cat Games to our subscription bundle.
Speaker #3: This adds another game featuring high-profile IP to go along with Paw Patrol and Toka Boka Junior. Beyond 2026, a key aspect of our long-term growth strategy is accelerating our expansion into high-growth categories.
Christina Miller: This adds another game featuring high-profile IP to go along with PAW Patrol and Toca Boca Jr. Beyond 2026, a key aspect of our long-term growth strategy is accelerating our expansion into high-growth categories. This includes collectibles and strategic trading cards, both of which are extremely popular with fans and the kidults demographic. In May, we announced the global licensing agreement with mobile games giant Supercell. Supercell's games include Clash of Clans, Clash Royale, and Brawl Stars, have been downloaded around the world billions of times and reach 290 million monthly active users. As part of a multi-year agreement, we will create toys and collectibles that bring the iconic characters, battles, and adventures from the digital screen to fans around the world. The collection is targeted to launch next summer.
Christina Miller: This adds another game featuring high-profile IP to go along with PAW Patrol and Toca Boca Jr. Beyond 2026, a key aspect of our long-term growth strategy is accelerating our expansion into high-growth categories. This includes collectibles and strategic trading cards, both of which are extremely popular with fans and the kidults demographic. In May, we announced the global licensing agreement with mobile games giant Supercell. Supercell's games include Clash of Clans, Clash Royale, and Brawl Stars, have been downloaded around the world billions of times and reach 290 million monthly active users. As part of a multi-year agreement, we will create toys and collectibles that bring the iconic characters, battles, and adventures from the digital screen to fans around the world. The collection is targeted to launch next summer.
Speaker #3: This includes collectibles and strategic trading cards, both of which are extremely popular with fans and the consult demographic. In May, we announced the global licensing agreement with mobile games giant Supercell.
Speaker #3: Supercell's games include Clash of Clans, Clash Royale, and Brawl Stars. Have been downloaded around the world billions of times, and reach 290 million monthly active users.
Speaker #3: As part of a multi-year agreement, we will create toys and collectibles that bring the iconic characters battles and adventures from the digital screen to fans around the world.
Speaker #3: The collection is targeted to launch next summer. As it relates to strategic trading cards, earlier this month, we announced we were deepening our lineup of new studio collaborators.
Christina Miller: As it relates to strategic trading cards, earlier this month, we announced we were deepening our lineup of new studio collaborators, AMC, Blumhouse, and Lionsgate, to bring their horror icons to our new game, Hellbreak. There are more studios to come. The game is set to unleash late this fall. I now turn it over to Jonathan.
Christina Miller: As it relates to strategic trading cards, earlier this month, we announced we were deepening our lineup of new studio collaborators, AMC, Blumhouse, and Lionsgate, to bring their horror icons to our new game, Hellbreak. There are more studios to come. The game is set to unleash late this fall. I now turn it over to Jonathan.
Speaker #3: AMC, Blumhouse, and Lionsgate. To bring their horror icons to our new game Hellbreak. And there are more studios to come. The game is set to unleash late this fall.
Speaker #3: I now turn it over to Jonathan.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Christina. Good morning, everyone. As Christina noted, our financial results in Q2 came in ahead of the expectations we outlined. Consolidated revenues increased 9%, or 36 million, driven by 12% growth in toys, ahead of our expectations through a pull forward of approximately 40 million dollars in gross product sales from Q3.
Jonathan Roiter: Thank you, Christina, and good morning, everyone. As Christina noted, our financial results in Q2 came in ahead of the expectations we outlined. Consolidated revenues increased 9%, or $36 million, driven by 12% growth in toys, ahead of our expectations, due a pull forward of approximately $40 million in gross product sales from Q3, in part, as retailers prepared for the PAW Patrol: The Dino Movie release. Due to the volatility in retail order patterns last year, the H1 change in revenues is a better indicator than either the Q1 decline of 9% or the Q2 increase of 9%. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 80% in Q2, or $23 million. This was driven by a $24 million increase in gross profits, excluding depreciation and amortization and tariff refunds that we received. Marketing expense was $12 million less than last year.
Jonathan Roiter: Thank you, Christina, and good morning, everyone. As Christina noted, our financial results in Q2 came in ahead of the expectations we outlined. Consolidated revenues increased 9%, or $36 million, driven by 12% growth in toys, ahead of our expectations, due a pull forward of approximately $40 million in gross product sales from Q3, in part, as retailers prepared for the PAW Patrol: The Dino Movie release. Due to the volatility in retail order patterns last year, the H1 change in revenues is a better indicator than either the Q1 decline of 9% or the Q2 increase of 9%. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 80% in Q2, or $23 million. This was driven by a $24 million increase in gross profits, excluding depreciation and amortization and tariff refunds that we received. Marketing expense was $12 million less than last year.
Speaker #1: In part, as retailers prepared for the Paw Patrol, Dino Movie release. Due to the volatility in retail order patterns last year, the first half changed in revenues is a better indicator than either the Q1 decline of 9% or the Q2 increase of 9%.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA increased by 80% in the second quarter, or 23 million dollars. This was driven by a 24 million increase in gross profits excluding depreciation and amortization, and tariff refunds that we received.
Speaker #1: Marketing expense was 12 million dollars less than last year. This is primary timing related, and we expect to see a similar quantum of increase in Q3.
Jonathan Roiter: This is primarily timing-related. We expect to see a similar quantum of increase in Q3. Adjusted operating income in Q2 was $19 million, an increase of $20 million, driven by the increase in adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by a small increase in depreciation and amortization. IFRS operating income in Q2 was $46 million, compared to a loss of $52 million last year. The increase was due to the increase in adjusted operating income and impairment that was recorded last year, a reduction in non-recurring cash costs, currency fluctuations, and the $38 million in IEEPA tariff refunds received late in the quarter, which we recorded as an offset to cost of sales. The tariff refunds have been excluded from adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income, and adjusted net income due to their one-time nature.
Jonathan Roiter: This is primarily timing-related. We expect to see a similar quantum of increase in Q3. Adjusted operating income in Q2 was $19 million, an increase of $20 million, driven by the increase in adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by a small increase in depreciation and amortization. IFRS operating income in Q2 was $46 million, compared to a loss of $52 million last year. The increase was due to the increase in adjusted operating income and impairment that was recorded last year, a reduction in non-recurring cash costs, currency fluctuations, and the $38 million in IEEPA tariff refunds received late in the quarter, which we recorded as an offset to cost of sales. The tariff refunds have been excluded from adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income, and adjusted net income due to their one-time nature.
Speaker #1: Adjusted operating income in Q2 was 19 million, an increase of 20 million dollars. Driven by the increase in adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by a small increase in depreciation and amortization.
Speaker #1: IFRS operating income in the second quarter was 46 million, compared to a loss of 52 million last year. The increase was due to the increase in adjusted operating income, and impairment that was recorded last year.
Speaker #1: A reduction in non-reoccurring cash costs, currency fluctuations, and the 38 million. In IEEPA tariff refunds received late in the quarter, which we recorded as an offset to cost of sales.
Speaker #1: The tariff refunds have been excluded from adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income, and adjusted net income due to their one-time nature. However, the amount added back is just the refunds received and does not add back tariff expenses.
Jonathan Roiter: However, the amount added back is just the refunds received and does not add back tariff expenses. In 2025, we expensed approximately $30 million in tariffs, and we anticipate a similar level this year, excluding the refund, due to the proposed introduction of new higher tariff rates. Our operating cash flows increased by $32 million to $58 million due to the increase in IFRS profits, partially offset by changes in working capital flows. For H1, operating cash flows increased $110 million to $160 million due to improved profitability, effective working capital management, and tariff refunds received. CapEx in H1 was $70 million, which includes the IT investments we are making to improve and automate our data quality and processes and facilitate tighter integration with our creative centers.
Jonathan Roiter: However, the amount added back is just the refunds received and does not add back tariff expenses. In 2025, we expensed approximately $30 million in tariffs, and we anticipate a similar level this year, excluding the refund, due to the proposed introduction of new higher tariff rates. Our operating cash flows increased by $32 million to $58 million due to the increase in IFRS profits, partially offset by changes in working capital flows. For H1, operating cash flows increased $110 million to $160 million due to improved profitability, effective working capital management, and tariff refunds received. CapEx in H1 was $70 million, which includes the IT investments we are making to improve and automate our data quality and processes and facilitate tighter integration with our creative centers.
Speaker #1: In 2025, we expensed approximately 30 million dollars in tariffs, and we anticipate a similar level this year, excluding the refund due to the proposed introduction of new higher tariff rates.
Speaker #1: Our operating cash flows increased by 32 million to 58 million dollars due to the increase in IFRS profits, partially offset by changes in working capital flows.
Speaker #1: For the first half, operating cash flows increased $110 million to $160 million, due to improved profitability, effective working capital management, and tariff refunds received.
Speaker #1: Capex in the first half was 70 million, which includes the IT investments we are making to improve and automate our data quality and processes, and facilitate tighter integration with our creative centers.
Speaker #1: In order to avoid any disruptions in the fourth quarter of this year, which is our busiest period, we are now planning to launch next year.
Jonathan Roiter: In order to avoid any disruptions in Q4 this year, which is our busiest period, we are now planning to launch next year. In the current macro environment, we have maintained a balanced approach to capital allocation in H1 of the year, prioritizing growth investments, including CapEx, returning capital to shareholders through our dividend and share buybacks, and reducing debt. We ended the quarter with approximately 0.8 turns of net leverage, including leases, or 0.3 turns excluding leases. Since the acquisition of M&D, we have reduced gross debt by more than $350 million while returning almost $200 million of capital to shareholders. Turning to our individual creative centers' performance. Both toy GPS and revenues increased by 12% or $39 million, as I previously noted.
Jonathan Roiter: In order to avoid any disruptions in Q4 this year, which is our busiest period, we are now planning to launch next year. In the current macro environment, we have maintained a balanced approach to capital allocation in H1 of the year, prioritizing growth investments, including CapEx, returning capital to shareholders through our dividend and share buybacks, and reducing debt. We ended the quarter with approximately 0.8 turns of net leverage, including leases, or 0.3 turns excluding leases. Since the acquisition of M&D, we have reduced gross debt by more than $350 million while returning almost $200 million of capital to shareholders. Turning to our individual creative centers' performance. Both toy GPS and revenues increased by 12% or $39 million, as I previously noted.
Speaker #1: In the current macro environment, we have maintained a balanced approach to capital allocation in the first half of the year. Prioritizing growth investments, including capex, returning capital to shareholders through our dividend and share buybacks, and reducing debt.
Speaker #1: We ended the quarter with approximately 0.8 turns of net leverage, including leases, or 0.3 turns excluding leases. Since the acquisition of M&D, we have reduced gross debt by more than $350 million, while returning almost $200 million of capital to shareholders.
Speaker #1: Now, turning to our individual creative center's performance. Both Toy GPS and revenues increased by 12%, or 39 million, as I previously noted. Both Toy adjusted EBITDA and adjusted operating income increased by 25 million, driven by the increase in gross margin, with adjusted SG&A being stable.
Jonathan Roiter: Both toy adjusted EBITDA and adjusted operating income increased by $25 million, driven by the increase in gross margin, with adjusted SG&A being stable. IFRS operating income was $34 million, compared to a loss of $40 million last year. For H1, toy revenues increased by 1%. Year-to-date toy POS was close to H1 revenues, with a small decrease of approximately 1% as an anticipated decline in June offset a modest increase that we have been seeing through May. We expect POS to be negative in June and July as we are lapping the "How to Train Your Dragon" and "Superman" movies, released in June and July respectively last year. Additionally, M&D POS in Q2 was impacted by less in-store promotional items compared to last year, as Christina noted. Entertainment revenues were generally stable, declining by just under $1 million.
Jonathan Roiter: Both toy adjusted EBITDA and adjusted operating income increased by $25 million, driven by the increase in gross margin, with adjusted SG&A being stable. IFRS operating income was $34 million, compared to a loss of $40 million last year. For H1, toy revenues increased by 1%. Year-to-date toy POS was close to H1 revenues, with a small decrease of approximately 1% as an anticipated decline in June offset a modest increase that we have been seeing through May. We expect POS to be negative in June and July as we are lapping the "How to Train Your Dragon" and "Superman" movies, released in June and July respectively last year. Additionally, M&D POS in Q2 was impacted by less in-store promotional items compared to last year, as Christina noted. Entertainment revenues were generally stable, declining by just under $1 million.
Speaker #1: IFRS operating income was 34 million, compared to a loss of 40 million dollars last year. For the first half, Toy revenues increased by 1%, year-to-date Toy POS was close to H1 revenues, with a small decrease of approximately 1%, as an anticipated decline in June, offset a modest increase that we have been seeing through May.
Speaker #1: We expect POS to be negative in June and July, as we are lapping the 'How to Train Your Dragon' and 'Superman' movies, released in June and July, respectively, last year.
Speaker #1: Additionally, M&D POS in Q2 was impacted by less in-store promotional items compared to last year, as Christina noted. Entertainment revenues were generally stable, declining by just under 1 million dollars.
Speaker #1: Adjusted operating income declined by just under 2 million, driven by an increase in amortization expense stemming from dilutive impact that occurs when we deliver new content.
Jonathan Roiter: Adjusted operating income declined by just under $2 million, driven by an increase in amortization expense stemming from dilutive impact that occurs when we deliver new content. IFRS operating income was stable. Digital games revenue declined modestly by $2 million. Adjusted operating income was stable as the revenue decline was offset by a reduction in adjusted SG&A. IFRS operating income increased to $6 million, a $22 million increase due to the impairment that was taken last year. Turning to our outlook, we reiterate our 2026 guidance today for stable to low double-digit growth in revenues and mid to upper single-digit growth in adjusted EBITDA. Obviously, we are a back-half-weighted company. Last year, H2 comprised of 64% of our full year revenues and all of our profits. It is too early to change guidance or provide specifics on where we expect to land within the range.
Jonathan Roiter: Adjusted operating income declined by just under $2 million, driven by an increase in amortization expense stemming from dilutive impact that occurs when we deliver new content. IFRS operating income was stable. Digital games revenue declined modestly by $2 million. Adjusted operating income was stable as the revenue decline was offset by a reduction in adjusted SG&A. IFRS operating income increased to $6 million, a $22 million increase due to the impairment that was taken last year. Turning to our outlook, we reiterate our 2026 guidance today for stable to low double-digit growth in revenues and mid to upper single-digit growth in adjusted EBITDA. Obviously, we are a back-half-weighted company. Last year, H2 comprised of 64% of our full year revenues and all of our profits. It is too early to change guidance or provide specifics on where we expect to land within the range.
Speaker #1: IFRS operating income was stable. Digital games revenue declined modestly by 2 million dollars. However, adjusted operating income was stable, as the revenue decline was offset by a reduction in adjusted SG&A.
Speaker #1: IFRS operating income increased to $6 million, a $22 million increase, due to the impairment that was taken last year. Now, turning to our outlook.
Speaker #1: We reiterate our 2026 guidance today for stable to low single digit growth in revenues and mid to upper single digit growth in adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #1: Obviously, we are back halfway to company. Last year, the second half comprised of 64% of our full year revenues and all of our profits, so it is too early to change guidance or provide specifics on where we expect to land within the range.
Speaker #1: The top end of our range reflects the growth drivers I outlined on our past calls, while the downside reflects conservatism due to the uncertain economy and the geopolitical situation, including the conflict in the Middle East.
Jonathan Roiter: The top end of our range reflects the growth drivers I outlined on our past calls, with a downside reflecting conservatism due to the uncertain economy, the geopolitical situation, including the conflict in the Middle East. From the latter, we ballparked on our last call the increased cost for us in H2 to be $15 million, assuming $100 a barrel of oil. Originally, we anticipated offsetting up to two-thirds of the additional cost through price increases, which would have benefited our revenues. With the reception of the tariff refunds, we've decided to utilize those refunds to counter the increased costs without having to increase pricing. We intend to do the same to counter the proposed new tariffs coming into place later this month.
Jonathan Roiter: The top end of our range reflects the growth drivers I outlined on our past calls, with a downside reflecting conservatism due to the uncertain economy, the geopolitical situation, including the conflict in the Middle East. From the latter, we ballparked on our last call the increased cost for us in H2 to be $15 million, assuming $100 a barrel of oil. Originally, we anticipated offsetting up to two-thirds of the additional cost through price increases, which would have benefited our revenues. With the reception of the tariff refunds, we've decided to utilize those refunds to counter the increased costs without having to increase pricing. We intend to do the same to counter the proposed new tariffs coming into place later this month.
Speaker #1: From the latter, we ballparked on our last call the increased cost for us in the second half to be 15 million dollars assuming a 100 dollars a barrel of oil.
Speaker #1: Originally, we anticipated offsetting up to two-thirds of the additional costs through price increases, which would have benefited our revenues. However, with the receipt of the tariff refunds, we've decided to utilize those refunds to counter the increased costs without having to increase pricing.
Speaker #1: We intend to do the same to counter the proposed new tariffs coming into place later this month. For modeling purposes, this will impact what we would have otherwise expected to report in revenues and adjusted EBITDA.
Jonathan Roiter: For modeling purposes, this will impact what we would have otherwise expected to report in revenues and adjusted EBITDA, but obviously there's a benefit to our IFRS profits and cash flows. As it relates to Q3, we are targeting general stability in consolidated revenues. This is due to the pull forward of orders into Q2. Also, we are anticipating a higher proportion of domestic replenishment toy orders in 2026 than 2025, which will result in Q4 comprising a larger percentage of the full year. In terms of puts and takes for Q3, we anticipate benefiting from the PAW Patrol movie in entertainment. In toy, Melissa & Doug has an easier comp, and the PAW movie will be a tailwind, which offsets being that we don't have How to Train Your Dragon, Superman, and Gabby's Dollhouse movies that we had last year.
Jonathan Roiter: For modeling purposes, this will impact what we would have otherwise expected to report in revenues and adjusted EBITDA, but obviously there's a benefit to our IFRS profits and cash flows. As it relates to Q3, we are targeting general stability in consolidated revenues. This is due to the pull forward of orders into Q2. Also, we are anticipating a higher proportion of domestic replenishment toy orders in 2026 than 2025, which will result in Q4 comprising a larger percentage of the full year. In terms of puts and takes for Q3, we anticipate benefiting from the PAW Patrol movie in entertainment. In toy, Melissa & Doug has an easier comp, and the PAW movie will be a tailwind, which offsets being that we don't have How to Train Your Dragon, Superman, and Gabby's Dollhouse movies that we had last year.
Speaker #1: But obviously, it is a benefit to our IFRS profits and cash flows. As it relates to the third quarter, we are targeting general stability and consolidated revenues.
Speaker #1: This is due to the pull-forward of orders into the second quarter. Also, we are anticipating a higher proportion of domestic replenishment toy orders in 2026 than in 2025.
Speaker #1: Which will result in Q4 comprising a larger percentage of the full year. We anticipate benefiting from the Paw Patrol movie in Entertainment. In Toy, Melissa & Doug has an easier comp, and the Paw movie will be a tailwind.
Speaker #1: Which offsets, being that we don't have "How to Train Your Dragon," Superman, and "Gabby Dollhouse" movies that we had last year. Within digital games, we are targeting improvements in our core platforms, Toca Boca World and Picnic, with an offset being that we generated approximately $12 million in the third quarter and $9 million in the fourth quarter in high-margin revenues related to the delivery of certain games to partners, which do not repeat this year.
Jonathan Roiter: Within digital games, we are targeting improvements in our core platforms, Toca Boca World and Piknik, with an offset being that we generate approximately $12 million in Q3 and $9 million in Q4 in high margin revenues related to the delivery of certain games to partners which do not repeat this year. In terms of cost, we expect gross margin to be approximately two percentage points lower due to the higher toy costs I noted, higher entertainment amortization related to the release of the movie, and those digital game partnership revenues last year. Operating expenses below gross profit are anticipated generally stable, except for the digital marketing spend that was not spent in Q2. With that, I'll pass it back to Christina.
Jonathan Roiter: Within digital games, we are targeting improvements in our core platforms, Toca Boca World and Piknik, with an offset being that we generate approximately $12 million in Q3 and $9 million in Q4 in high margin revenues related to the delivery of certain games to partners which do not repeat this year. In terms of cost, we expect gross margin to be approximately two percentage points lower due to the higher toy costs I noted, higher entertainment amortization related to the release of the movie, and those digital game partnership revenues last year. Operating expenses below gross profit are anticipated generally stable, except for the digital marketing spend that was not spent in Q2. With that, I'll pass it back to Christina.
Speaker #1: In terms of costs, we expect gross margin to be approximately 2% points lower due to the higher toy costs I noted. Higher entertainment amortization related to the release of the movie, and those digital game partnership revenues last year.
Speaker #1: Operating expenses below gross profit are anticipated to be generally stable, except for the additional marketing spend that was not spent in the second quarter. And now, with that, I'll pass it back to Christina.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jonathan. In closing, we are extremely proud of the execution of our teams, as we return to profitable growth. We have achieved this by focusing on consistent foundational improvements, applying greater executional discipline, and executing our three-part growth strategy.
Christina Miller: Thank you, Jonathan. In closing, we are extremely proud of the execution of our teams as we return to profitable growth. We have achieved this by focusing on consistent foundational improvements, applying greater executional discipline, and executing our three-part growth strategy, increasing innovation in our toys and digital games, accelerating our expansion into high growth categories, including collectibles and strategic trading cards, and collaborating across our creative centers to unlock the full potential of our brands. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Christina Miller: Thank you, Jonathan. In closing, we are extremely proud of the execution of our teams as we return to profitable growth. We have achieved this by focusing on consistent foundational improvements, applying greater executional discipline, and executing our three-part growth strategy, increasing innovation in our toys and digital games, accelerating our expansion into high growth categories, including collectibles and strategic trading cards, and collaborating across our creative centers to unlock the full potential of our brands. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #2: Increasing innovation in our toys and digital games, accelerating our expansion into high-growth categories, including collectibles and strategic trading cards, and collaborating across our creative centers to unlock the full potential of our brands.
Speaker #2: With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. If you would like to ask a question, please press star then on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then the number two.
Operator 2: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. If you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then the number 2. Your first question comes from Adam Shine from National Bank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. If you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then the number 2. Your first question comes from Adam Shine from National Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Your first question comes from Adam Shine from National Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hi, thanks a lot. Good morning. Lots of good color there already, but maybe you could just a little we're a little bit into the Q3 already.
Adam Shine: Thanks a lot. Good morning. We're a little bit into the Q3 already. Can you elaborate maybe a little bit further on how retailers are adjusting to, we'll call it, a new resetting of the equilibrium? As Jonathan referred to earlier, maybe a bit more domestic replenishment dynamic, but maybe talk about the nature of shipments in general and, in as much as there was the $40 million of pull forward, are we still seeing a good level of demand already being exhibited in the Q3? Thanks.
Adam Shine: Thanks a lot. Good morning. We're a little bit into the Q3 already. Can you elaborate maybe a little bit further on how retailers are adjusting to, we'll call it, a new resetting of the equilibrium? As Jonathan referred to earlier, maybe a bit more domestic replenishment dynamic, but maybe talk about the nature of shipments in general and, in as much as there was the $40 million of pull forward, are we still seeing a good level of demand already being exhibited in the Q3? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Can you elaborate maybe a little bit further on how retailers are adjusting to we'll call it a new resetting of the equilibrium, and as Jonathan referred to earlier, maybe a bit more domestic replenishment dynamic, but maybe talk about the nature of shipments in general, and in as much as there was the 40 million dollars of pull forward, are we still seeing a good level of demand already being exhibited in the Q3?
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, Adam. Lots of questions in there. I don't think I'll be able to remember every single one, but I'll give you some obviously, you're asking for some color into the second half of the year.
Jonathan Roiter: Hey, good morning, Adam. Lots of questions in there. I don't think I'll be able to remember every single one. Obviously you're asking for some color into the H2 of the year. What's nice about 2026 is that the retailers have returned to their historical set patterns for fall. As we speak today, I think they're in the final throes, one retailer in the final throes of their set. We're pleased to see that. I think we want to not lose sight of that last year, June and July, there were three theatrical releases that we had strong toy products that we were selling against. When you look at early July until our PAW movie comes out in mid-August, we don't have that tailwind benefit on our toy sales.
Jonathan Roiter: Hey, good morning, Adam. Lots of questions in there. I don't think I'll be able to remember every single one. Obviously you're asking for some color into the H2 of the year. What's nice about 2026 is that the retailers have returned to their historical set patterns for fall. As we speak today, I think they're in the final throes, one retailer in the final throes of their set. We're pleased to see that. I think we want to not lose sight of that last year, June and July, there were three theatrical releases that we had strong toy products that we were selling against. When you look at early July until our PAW movie comes out in mid-August, we don't have that tailwind benefit on our toy sales.
Speaker #5: And so what's nice about 2026 is that the retailers have returned to their historical set patterns for fall, and so as we speak today, I think they're in the final throws.
Speaker #5: One retailer in final final throws of their set. And so that is we're pleased to see that. I think we want to not lose sight of that last year, June and July, there were three theatrical releases that we had toy products strong toy products that we were selling against.
Speaker #5: And so when you look at early July, until our paw movie comes out in mid-August, we don't have that tailwind benefit on our toy sales.
Speaker #5: So, from a kind of a sell-through, there is that headwind that we're facing, but as we headed to mid-August—obviously when we launched the movie that we've had the pleasure of seeing—it's a fantastic movie, a lot of really exciting buzz around it, and that will start the catalyst of the drive of return to POS growth in the second half.
Jonathan Roiter: From a kind of sell through, there is that headwind that we're facing. As we headed to mid-August is obviously when we launched the movie that we've had the pleasure of seeing. It's a fantastic movie. A lot of really exciting buzz around it, and that will start the catalyst of the drive of return to POS growth in H2.
Jonathan Roiter: From a kind of sell through, there is that headwind that we're facing. As we headed to mid-August is obviously when we launched the movie that we've had the pleasure of seeing. It's a fantastic movie. A lot of really exciting buzz around it, and that will start the catalyst of the drive of return to POS growth in H2.
Speaker #4: Can you talk about any early retailer receptivity to Hellbreak? I know it's coming late fall, but just any initial feedback commentary?
Adam Shine: Can you talk about any early retailer receptivity to Hellbreak? I know it's coming late fall, but just any initial feedback commentary?
Adam Shine: Can you talk about any early retailer receptivity to Hellbreak? I know it's coming late fall, but just any initial feedback commentary?
Speaker #6: Oh, hi, Adam. It's Christina. Yeah, it's a little too early to tell, as we sit here. It's a specialty launch, so it will be more late fall.
Christina Miller: Hi, Adam. It's Christina. Yeah, it's a little too early to tell as we sit here. It's a specialty launch, it will be more late fall. I think we will have more to tell you as we get into Q4.
Christina Miller: Hi, Adam. It's Christina. Yeah, it's a little too early to tell as we sit here. It's a specialty launch, it will be more late fall. I think we will have more to tell you as we get into Q4.
Speaker #6: So I think we will have more to tell you as we get into the fourth quarter. To date, it's super excited about it, and we'll have a little special launch on Friday the 13th in November.
Adam Shine: I appreciate that.
Adam Shine: I appreciate that.
Christina Miller: To date, super excited about it and we'll have a little special launch on Friday the 13th in November.
Christina Miller: To date, super excited about it and we'll have a little special launch on Friday the 13th in November.
Speaker #4: Thanks for that. Jonathan, just one quick point of clarification. Very clear in terms of marketing and the timing in Q2 and into Q3, but on the administrative line item, I know that one sometimes has some timing factors involved with it.
Adam Shine: Thanks for that. Jonathan, just one quick point of clarification. Very clear in terms of marketing and the timing Q2 and into Q3. On the administrative line item, I know that one sometimes has some timing factors involved with it. It did step down. I'm just curious if that's an area where perhaps you're tackling some cost savings or again, is that a timing factor as well?
Adam Shine: Thanks for that. Jonathan, just one quick point of clarification. Very clear in terms of marketing and the timing Q2 and into Q3. On the administrative line item, I know that one sometimes has some timing factors involved with it. It did step down. I'm just curious if that's an area where perhaps you're tackling some cost savings or again, is that a timing factor as well?
Speaker #4: It did step down. I'm just curious if that scenario where perhaps you're tackling some cost savings or again, is that a timing factor as well?
Speaker #5: I think for the so the short answer is that you should consider timing. The longer answer is that there is the team because it's worth mentioning the work that team is doing.
Jonathan Roiter: I think the short answer is that you should consider timing. The longer answer is that there is the team, because it's worth mentioning the work the team is doing. There is a significant investment in people's time and energy in looking at where we are spending money and ensuring that we're getting the returns that we would like. If we're not getting those returns, there is a reduction. There is reinvestment in other areas of the business.
Jonathan Roiter: I think the short answer is that you should consider timing. The longer answer is that there is the team, because it's worth mentioning the work the team is doing. There is a significant investment in people's time and energy in looking at where we are spending money and ensuring that we're getting the returns that we would like. If we're not getting those returns, there is a reduction. There is reinvestment in other areas of the business.
Speaker #5: There is a significant investment of people's time and energy in looking at where we are spending money, and ensuring that we're getting the returns that we would like.
Speaker #5: If we're not getting those returns, there is a reduction but then there is reinvestment in other areas of the business.
Speaker #4: Understood. Okay, I'll queue up again. Thank you.
Adam Shine: Understood. Okay, I'll queue up again. Thank you.
Adam Shine: Understood. Okay, I'll queue up again. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Ty Colin from CIBC. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Ty Collin from CIBC. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Ty Collin from CIBC. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. So I mean, you kind of characterized the Q2 toy growth as being mostly timing related. It sounds like the expectations that Q3 is going to be kind of flattish to a softer Q3 last year, and you're expecting more domestic replenishment in Q4.
Ty Collin: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. You kind of characterized the Q2 toy growth as being mostly timing related. It sounds like the expectation is that Q3 is going to be kind of flattish to a softer Q3 last year, and you're expecting more domestic replenishment in Q4. Is it fair to summarize those comments as you not really expecting any material restocking at this point heading into the holiday season or exiting this year?
Ty Collin: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. You kind of characterized the Q2 toy growth as being mostly timing related. It sounds like the expectation is that Q3 is going to be kind of flattish to a softer Q3 last year, and you're expecting more domestic replenishment in Q4. Is it fair to summarize those comments as you not really expecting any material restocking at this point heading into the holiday season or exiting this year?
Speaker #7: I mean, is it fair to sort of summarize those comments as you not really expecting any material restocking at this point, heading into the holiday season or exiting this year?
Speaker #6: Well, we just started to sell in for the third for the third and fourth quarter. So it's a little early to say whether we expect material restocking or not.
Christina Miller: Well, we just started to sell in for the Q3 and Q4. It's a little early to say whether we expect material restocking or not. We've had some great new products start to ship. We're at the very early stages of PAW Patrol. I think it's just a bit too early to say to talk through restock at this point.
Christina Miller: Well, we just started to sell in for the Q3 and Q4. It's a little early to say whether we expect material restocking or not. We've had some great new products start to ship. We're at the very early stages of PAW Patrol. I think it's just a bit too early to say to talk through restock at this point.
Speaker #6: We've had some great some great new products start to ship we're at the very early stages of paw patrol. So I think it's just a bit too early to say to talk through restock at this point.
Speaker #5: Yeah, and I think Ty not to lose sight that our second quarter certainly benefited from we've quantified it as around 40 million dollars of Q3 orders that shipped late in Q2.
Jonathan Roiter: Yeah, I think, trying not to lose sight, that our Q2 certainly benefited from. We've quantified it as around $40 million of Q3 orders that shipped late in Q2. A lot of those orders were PAW related, as the retailers wanted to stock their shelves. It's certainly, Q3, going to be a less positive quarter than you saw in this quarter that you saw here.
Jonathan Roiter: Yeah, I think, trying not to lose sight, that our Q2 certainly benefited from. We've quantified it as around $40 million of Q3 orders that shipped late in Q2. A lot of those orders were PAW related, as the retailers wanted to stock their shelves. It's certainly, Q3, going to be a less positive quarter than you saw in this quarter that you saw here.
Speaker #5: A lot of those orders were paw related. As the retailers want to stock their shelves, and so it's certainly Q3 going to be a less positive year, less positive quarter than you saw in this quarter that you saw here.
Speaker #7: Okay, got it. And yeah, I mean, I appreciate it's obviously early days, but I'm just wondering if you could comment a little bit on how the initial sell-in and sell-through of some of that paw movie related product has gone compared to your expectations heading into this year.
Ty Collin: Okay, got it. Yeah, I appreciate it's obviously early days, but I'm just wondering if you could comment a little bit on how the initial sell-in and sell-through of some of that PAW movie related product has gone compared to your expectations heading into this year.
Ty Collin: Okay, got it. Yeah, I appreciate it's obviously early days, but I'm just wondering if you could comment a little bit on how the initial sell-in and sell-through of some of that PAW movie related product has gone compared to your expectations heading into this year.
Speaker #6: Yeah, I think it's meeting our expectations. Again, it's kind of early, but we have some great product out already across all retailers. One retailer left to set in-store, and we're seeing the movie product start to get a real lift as we market the movie and as we get closer to the release date.
Christina Miller: Yeah, I think it's meeting our expectations. Again, it's kind of early, but we have some great product out already across all retailers. One retailer left to set in store. We're seeing the movie product start to get a real lift as we market the movie, as we get closer to the release date. There's lots of retail promotions curated to each one of the retailers. We're seeing the product that is included in that see a nice lift. We're two weeks out from the movie. We will certainly have more to tell you next quarter.
Christina Miller: Yeah, I think it's meeting our expectations. Again, it's kind of early, but we have some great product out already across all retailers. One retailer left to set in store. We're seeing the movie product start to get a real lift as we market the movie, as we get closer to the release date. There's lots of retail promotions curated to each one of the retailers. We're seeing the product that is included in that see a nice lift. We're two weeks out from the movie. We will certainly have more to tell you next quarter.
Speaker #6: There's lots of retail promotions curated to each one of the retailers. So we're seeing the product that is included in that see a nice lift.
Speaker #6: We're two weeks out from the movie, so we will certainly have more to tell you next quarter.
Speaker #7: Okay, great. Thanks. All the best.
Ty Collin: Okay, great. Thanks. All the best.
Ty Collin: Okay, great. Thanks. All the best.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Christina Miller: Thank you.
Christina Miller: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Garrick Johnson. From Seaport Research. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from the line of Gerrick Johnson from Seaport Research. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Gerrick Johnson from Seaport Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Great, thank you. Hey, on the 40 million dollar pull forward, this is not incremental. This is just pull forward. It's not an retailer's increasing orders.
Gerrick Johnson: Great. Thank you. Hey, on the $40 million pull forward, this is not incremental, this is just pull forward. It's not retailers increasing orders?
Gerrick Johnson: Great. Thank you. Hey, on the $40 million pull forward, this is not incremental, this is just pull forward. It's not retailers increasing orders?
Speaker #5: No, Garrick, I mean, we're maintaining our full year guidance, and when we look at the order patterns that came in versus what we were expecting when we built out our guidance, we can attribute essentially 40 million dollars of pull forward orders.
Jonathan Roiter: No, Gerrick, we're maintaining our full-year guidance. When we look at the order patterns that came in versus what we were expecting when we built out our guidance, we can attribute essentially $40 million of pull forward orders.
Jonathan Roiter: No, Gerrick, we're maintaining our full-year guidance. When we look at the order patterns that came in versus what we were expecting when we built out our guidance, we can attribute essentially $40 million of pull forward orders.
Speaker #2: Okay, okay. And then do you have to kick back any of your refund to your retail partners? I assume you increased price. So is Walmart, Target, are those guys coming back to for part of your refund, or is that why you're funding some promotions in the back half?
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. Do you have to kick back any of your refunds to your retail partners? I assume you increased price, though. Is Walmart, Target, are those guys coming back to you for part of your refund, or is that why you're funding some promotions in the back half?
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. Do you have to kick back any of your refunds to your retail partners? I assume you increased price, though. Is Walmart, Target, are those guys coming back to you for part of your refund, or is that why you're funding some promotions in the back half?
Speaker #5: I think Garrick, one of the pieces we have to look at is we are still in an inflationary environment. We called out on our last call, and it's worth mentioning again.
Jonathan Roiter: I think, Gerrick, one of the pieces we have to look at is we are still in an inflationary environment. We called out on our last call, and it is worth mentioning again, that when we look at oil at current rates versus our budgeted rates, there is about $15 million that we believe that our costs will go up, and those will be in H2. We anticipate those costs coming through in H2. When we talked last time, we were contemplating offsetting the vast majority of that through price. Looking at where we stand, looking at where the consumer stands, looking at our products, looking at our peer set, we ultimately elected not to move forward with price. As a result, when we look in the back half of the year, we have this $15 million incremental cost that are going to come through.
Jonathan Roiter: I think, Gerrick, one of the pieces we have to look at is we are still in an inflationary environment. We called out on our last call, and it is worth mentioning again, that when we look at oil at current rates versus our budgeted rates, there is about $15 million that we believe that our costs will go up, and those will be in H2. We anticipate those costs coming through in H2. When we talked last time, we were contemplating offsetting the vast majority of that through price. Looking at where we stand, looking at where the consumer stands, looking at our products, looking at our peer set, we ultimately elected not to move forward with price. As a result, when we look in the back half of the year, we have this $15 million incremental cost that are going to come through.
Speaker #5: That when we look at oil at current rates, versus our budgeted rates, there's about 15 million dollars we've that we believe that our costs will go up, and those will be in H2.
Speaker #5: So we anticipate those costs coming through in H2. When we talked last time, we were contemplating offsetting the vast majority of that through price.
Speaker #5: Looking at where we stand, looking at where the consumer stands, looking at our products, looking at our peer set, we ultimately elected not to move forward with price.
Speaker #5: And as a result, what we look in the back half of the year, we have this 15 million dollar incremental cost that are going to come through.
Speaker #2: Okay, so your price decision is totally independent. That's your decision. It's not the retailers putting pressure on you. To do that because you're.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. Your price decision is totally independent. That is your decision. It is not the retailers putting pressure on you to do that because you have a refund.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. Your price decision is totally independent. That is your decision. It is not the retailers putting pressure on you to do that because you have a refund.
Speaker #6: No, it's—no, it was totally independent.
Christina Miller: No, it was totally independent.
Christina Miller: No, it was totally independent.
Speaker #2: Okay, okay, great. Thank you.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay, great. Thank you.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay, great. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Drew McReynolds from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Drew McReynolds from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Drew McReynolds from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Yeah, thanks. Thanks very much. Good morning. Brief for me, maybe starting with you, Christina, just with respect to the full pipeline of toy innovation and the new products, so obviously great to see and it's been a priority of yours.
Drew McReynolds: Yeah, thanks. Thanks very much. Good morning. Three for me, maybe starting with you, Christina. Just with respect to the full pipeline of toy innovation and the new products. Obviously great to see, and it's been a priority of yours. Are you able to just kind of quantify or qualify just the strength of that new innovation and new product pipeline relative to previous years? I guess the more important question, the success and traction you're seeing this year versus previous years. Obviously hard for us to get a good glimpse of that, so that would be helpful. Second, just on the Toca Boca World MAUs. I recall, I think, last quarter, the expectation of return to MAU growth in H2 here, and I think I still got that from your opening remarks, but just maybe some comment there.
Drew McReynolds: Yeah, thanks. Thanks very much. Good morning. Three for me, maybe starting with you, Christina. Just with respect to the full pipeline of toy innovation and the new products. Obviously great to see, and it's been a priority of yours. Are you able to just kind of quantify or qualify just the strength of that new innovation and new product pipeline relative to previous years? I guess the more important question, the success and traction you're seeing this year versus previous years. Obviously hard for us to get a good glimpse of that, so that would be helpful. Second, just on the Toca Boca World MAUs. I recall, I think, last quarter, the expectation of return to MAU growth in H2 here, and I think I still got that from your opening remarks, but just maybe some comment there.
Speaker #7: Are you able to just kind of quantify or qualify just the strength of that new innovation and new product pipeline relative to previous years?
Speaker #7: And I guess the more important question, the success and traction you're seeing this year versus previous years, obviously hard for us to get a good glimpse of that.
Speaker #7: So that would be helpful. Second, just on the Toca Boca world MAUs, I recall, I think last quarter, the expectation of a return to MAU growth in the back half here.
Speaker #7: And I think I still got that from your opening remarks, but just maybe some comment there. And then just lastly, maybe for you, Jonathan, on just the M&A appetite here it looks as if certainly the industry is finally normalizing and settling down.
Drew McReynolds: Just lastly, maybe for you, Jonathan, on just the M&A appetite here, it looks as if certainly the industry is finally normalizing and settling down. You got a great balance sheet. You're obviously doing a great job returning excess capital to shareholders. Just wondering any updated thoughts on that. Thank you.
Drew McReynolds: Just lastly, maybe for you, Jonathan, on just the M&A appetite here, it looks as if certainly the industry is finally normalizing and settling down. You got a great balance sheet. You're obviously doing a great job returning excess capital to shareholders. Just wondering any updated thoughts on that. Thank you.
Speaker #7: You got a great balance sheet. You're obviously doing a great job returning excess capital to shareholders. Just wondering any updated thoughts on that. Thank you.
Speaker #6: So there's a few questions in there, but first I'll say good morning and then I'll go into new product pipeline. So we have a great new product pipeline, Magic Jellicans that launched you're seeing it in Pikimo.
Christina Miller: There's a few questions in there, but first I'll say good morning, and then I'll go into new product pipeline. We have a great new product pipeline, and you're seeing it in Magic Jellykins that launched, you're seeing it in Peekimo, you're seeing it in CrystaLynx and Won. It's also about category entry. In some of those cases, it's collectibles, in some of its cases, it's electronics. You're seeing it across our existing line as well. It's hard to parse out year on year because, especially when we came off of a year where we had a win for best toy of the year for Primal Hatch, and we have a great follow-up coming to that.
Christina Miller: There's a few questions in there, but first I'll say good morning, and then I'll go into new product pipeline. We have a great new product pipeline, and you're seeing it in Magic Jellykins that launched, you're seeing it in Peekimo, you're seeing it in CrystaLynx and Won. It's also about category entry. In some of those cases, it's collectibles, in some of its cases, it's electronics. You're seeing it across our existing line as well. It's hard to parse out year on year because, especially when we came off of a year where we had a win for best toy of the year for Primal Hatch, and we have a great follow-up coming to that.
Speaker #6: You're seeing it in Crystal Links and one. So it's also about category entry in some of those cases. It's collectibles and some of its cases, it's electronics.
Speaker #6: And then you're seeing it across our existing line as well. So it's hard to parse out year on year because especially when we came off of a year where we had Primal Hatch and we have a great follow-up coming to that.
Speaker #6: So I think it's about innovation in more categories and launching lots of new product in addition to driving that innovation in our existing lines like Monster Jam, Kinetic Sand, 4D, Gund.
Christina Miller: I think it's about innovation in more categories and launching lots of new product in addition to driving that innovation in our existing lines like Monster Jam, Kinetic Sand, 4D, GUND. It's really about all boats rising, is what I would say. When I look at some of the exciting new product that is tracking well at retail, I would say things like Magic Jellykins are doing well, CrystaLynx is doing well. We've just rolled out Ones. Those are all new categories, and then we have Murder Phone that just launched, which is a new game that's at retail and already looking like it's going to perform well.
Christina Miller: I think it's about innovation in more categories and launching lots of new product in addition to driving that innovation in our existing lines like Monster Jam, Kinetic Sand, 4D, GUND. It's really about all boats rising, is what I would say. When I look at some of the exciting new product that is tracking well at retail, I would say things like Magic Jellykins are doing well, CrystaLynx is doing well. We've just rolled out Ones. Those are all new categories, and then we have Murder Phone that just launched, which is a new game that's at retail and already looking like it's going to perform well.
Speaker #6: So it's really about all boats rising is what I would say. When I look at some of the exciting new product that is tracking well at retail, I would say things like Magic Jellicans are doing well.
Speaker #6: Crystal Links is doing well. We've just rolled out ones. So those are all new categories. And then we have Murder Phone that just launched, which is a new game.
Speaker #6: That's at retail and it's already looking like it's going to perform well. So I think it's across all categories—you see it. And that's the goal: to really inject it into existing core brands, which powered us in this quarter.
Christina Miller: I think it's across all categories you see it, and that's the goal, is really to inject it in existing core brands, which powered us in this quarter, and then really pushing into some new categories and finding some new play systems that we can keep growing year after year, not just quarter after quarter. I think your second question was around Toca Boca and MAUs, we are still looking at returning to or growing our MAUs in H2. We have a really strong pipeline of featured content that is set to drop that is really impactful over H2. If the summer was music, I'd say big partnerships are what we're looking at for H2. We've done a fair amount of tests, we will continue on conversion.
Christina Miller: I think it's across all categories you see it, and that's the goal, is really to inject it in existing core brands, which powered us in this quarter, and then really pushing into some new categories and finding some new play systems that we can keep growing year after year, not just quarter after quarter. I think your second question was around Toca Boca and MAUs, we are still looking at returning to or growing our MAUs in H2. We have a really strong pipeline of featured content that is set to drop that is really impactful over H2. If the summer was music, I'd say big partnerships are what we're looking at for H2. We've done a fair amount of tests, we will continue on conversion.
Speaker #6: And then really pushing into some new categories and finding some new play systems that we can keep growing year after year, not just quarter after quarter.
Speaker #6: I think your second question was around tokeboka, and MAUs, and we are still looking at returning to or growing our MAUs in the back half of the year.
Speaker #6: We have a really strong pipeline of featured content that is set to drop that is really impactful over the back half of the year.
Speaker #6: If the summer was music, I'd say big partnerships are what we're looking at for the back half of the year. We've done a fair amount of tests and we will continue on conversion.
Speaker #6: So we're working both sort of the top of the funnel and conversion. That's what we're focused and trying to be really disciplined about for tokeboka.
Christina Miller: We're working both sort of the top of the funnel and conversion. That's what we're focused and trying to be really disciplined about for Toca Boca. As it relates to M&A, I think Jonathan.
Christina Miller: We're working both sort of the top of the funnel and conversion. That's what we're focused and trying to be really disciplined about for Toca Boca. As it relates to M&A, I think Jonathan.
Speaker #6: And then as it relates to M&A, I think Jonathan.
Speaker #7: Sure, I'll jump in. And yeah, I think with toka, just to add, the underlying metrics of that business are stable, which is what we expected.
Jonathan Roiter: Sure. I'll jump in. Yeah, I think with Toca, just to add, the underlying metrics of that business are stable, which is what we expected. Revenue, obviously, you didn't see that there. Last year, there was, in the quarter, some one-time elements in that Q1 that we were here. We probably should have called that out in our Q1. There was a lot going on. That's the reason ultimately why the underlying stable metrics aren't you're not seeing that in the revenue figure. As Christina laid out, H2, there's each month an incredible amount of content and features coming out and some really exciting partnerships that we're going to announce as the fall makes its way through. Turning to M&A, M&A has always been core to Spin Master.
Jonathan Roiter: Sure. I'll jump in. Yeah, I think with Toca, just to add, the underlying metrics of that business are stable, which is what we expected. Revenue, obviously, you didn't see that there. Last year, there was, in the quarter, some one-time elements in that Q1 that we were here. We probably should have called that out in our Q1. There was a lot going on. That's the reason ultimately why the underlying stable metrics aren't you're not seeing that in the revenue figure. As Christina laid out, H2, there's each month an incredible amount of content and features coming out and some really exciting partnerships that we're going to announce as the fall makes its way through. Turning to M&A, M&A has always been core to Spin Master.
Speaker #7: So the revenue obviously you didn't see that there. Last year, there was in the quarter, some one-time elements in that first quarter that we were here.
Speaker #7: We probably should have called that out in our first quarter. There was a lot going on. So that's the reason ultimately why the underlying stable metrics aren't you're not seeing that in the revenue figure, but as Christina laid out, H2, there's each month an incredible amount of content and features coming out.
Speaker #7: And some really exciting partnerships that we're going to announce as the fall makes its way through. Turning to M&A, M&A has always been core to Spin Master.
Speaker #7: We have an incredibly attractive balance sheet. And teams working hard on freeing up capital through our working capital to sorry, through our balance sheet.
Jonathan Roiter: We have an incredibly attractive balance sheet, and teams working hard on freeing up capital through our working capital, sorry, through our balance sheet to ultimately give even more flexibility. When we look at M&A, we put it kind of in two very easy buckets in the toy field. One would be around, are there brands out there that ultimately allow us cost synergies when we bring them together? Are there brands out there that allow us to enter new categories and go into categories that are much higher growth? We certainly are looking at both of those and look forward to keep on updating you as we make progress in that area.
Jonathan Roiter: We have an incredibly attractive balance sheet, and teams working hard on freeing up capital through our working capital, sorry, through our balance sheet to ultimately give even more flexibility. When we look at M&A, we put it kind of in two very easy buckets in the toy field. One would be around, are there brands out there that ultimately allow us cost synergies when we bring them together? Are there brands out there that allow us to enter new categories and go into categories that are much higher growth? We certainly are looking at both of those and look forward to keep on updating you as we make progress in that area.
Speaker #7: To ultimately give even more flexibility. When we look at M&A, I kind of we put it kind of in two very easy buckets in the toy field.
Speaker #7: One would be around: Are there brands out there that ultimately allow us cost synergies when we bring them together? Or are there brands out there that allow us to enter new categories—and go into categories that are much higher growth?
Speaker #7: And we certainly are looking at both of those. And look forward to keep on updating you as area.
Speaker #2: That's great. Thank you very much.
Drew McReynolds: That's great. Thank you very much.
Drew McReynolds: That's great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: Your next question, comes from Kylie Cohu from Jeffries. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Kylie Cohu from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Kylie Cohu from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hey, good morning everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. I guess to start off, you highlighted that Melissa and Doug revenue performed basically as expected, even with the difficult comparison.
Kylie Cohu: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. I guess to start off, you highlighted that Melissa & Doug revenue performed basically as expected, even with the difficult comparison. Gross profit was stable, shelf space expanded with key retailers. I was just curious, a little bit of update on that business, and when do you expect sell-through and sales to return to being positive? Thanks.
Kylie Cohu: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. I guess to start off, you highlighted that Melissa & Doug revenue performed basically as expected, even with the difficult comparison. Gross profit was stable, shelf space expanded with key retailers. I was just curious, a little bit of update on that business, and when do you expect sell-through and sales to return to being positive? Thanks.
Speaker #8: Gross profit was stable, shelf space expanded with key retailers. I was just curious a little bit of update on that business and when do you expect sell through and sales to return to being positive?
Speaker #8: Thanks.
Speaker #6: So I think that Kylie, as you said, that we know that we had a good Easter this year, a lead-up that helped Q1. But and we also had a lot of promotional space that we were comping.
Christina Miller: I think that, Kylie, as you said, that we know that we had a good Easter this year lead up that helped Q1. We also had a lot of promotional space that we were comping. As we look into Q3, we believe that it's going to be expanded space, some growth in international, and innovation in the toys that is really going to help us drive that return to growth. We have a new product line in Cheery Lane that is hitting shelves and seeing some early signs of strong performance.
Christina Miller: I think that, Kylie, as you said, that we know that we had a good Easter this year lead up that helped Q1. We also had a lot of promotional space that we were comping. As we look into Q3, we believe that it's going to be expanded space, some growth in international, and innovation in the toys that is really going to help us drive that return to growth. We have a new product line in Cheery Lane that is hitting shelves and seeing some early signs of strong performance.
Speaker #6: But as we look into Q3, we believe that it's going to be expanded space, some growth in international and innovation in the toys that is really going to help us drive that return to growth.
Speaker #6: We have a new product line in Cherry Lane that is hitting shelves and seeing some early signs of strong performance.
Speaker #8: Got it. Super helpful. And then I need to kind of beat a dead horse on the call about just retail inventories. But I guess focusing in a little bit more on Paul Patrol specifically, obviously across the space, they're lean, but just kind of curious how you're thinking about having enough to support the business in case there's any upside.
Kylie Cohu: Got it. Super helpful. Then, I hate to kind of beat a dead horse on the call about just retail inventories, I guess focusing in a little bit more on PAW Patrol specifically, obviously across the space, they're lean, just kind of curious how you're thinking about having enough to support the business in case there's any upside. Is that something that you could chase into? Just any color there would be helpful.
Kylie Cohu: Got it. Super helpful. Then, I hate to kind of beat a dead horse on the call about just retail inventories, I guess focusing in a little bit more on PAW Patrol specifically, obviously across the space, they're lean, just kind of curious how you're thinking about having enough to support the business in case there's any upside. Is that something that you could chase into? Just any color there would be helpful.
Speaker #8: Is that something that you could chase into? Just any color there would be helpful.
Speaker #6: Sure. I think you noted that we strategically and deliberately sold down some inventory to clean out space for the movie line that is now launching.
Christina Miller: Sure. I think you noted that we strategically and deliberately sold down some inventory to clean out space for the movie line that is now launching, we're getting some early reads, we will be in a position to chase that product and the product that's performing. That is definitely part of the plan.
Christina Miller: Sure. I think you noted that we strategically and deliberately sold down some inventory to clean out space for the movie line that is now launching, we're getting some early reads, we will be in a position to chase that product and the product that's performing. That is definitely part of the plan.
Speaker #6: And we're getting some early reads and we will be in a position to chase that product. And the product that's performing, that is definitely part of the plan.
Speaker #8: Got it. Well, thank you so much. That's all for me.
Kylie Cohu: Got it. Well, thank you so much. That's all for me.
Kylie Cohu: Got it. Well, thank you so much. That's all for me.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Christina Miller: Thank you.
Christina Miller: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Andy Zhang. From TD Cowen, please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Andy Zhang from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Andy Zhang from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning everyone. I just had a quick question. For on the shift back to fob port, is it back to historical levels in Q2 following the general shift to DOM last year?
Andy Zhang: Hey, good morning, everyone. Just had a quick question. On the shift back to FOB port, is it back to historical levels in Q2 following the general shift to DOM last year? Just some thoughts on the toy revenue strength being attributable to demand strength as opposed to FOB shift back to port. Any color on that would be great.
Andy Zhang: Hey, good morning, everyone. Just had a quick question. On the shift back to FOB port, is it back to historical levels in Q2 following the general shift to DOM last year? Just some thoughts on the toy revenue strength being attributable to demand strength as opposed to FOB shift back to port. Any color on that would be great.
Speaker #7: And just some thoughts on the toy revenue strength being attributable to demand strength, as opposed to an FOB shift back to port. Any color on that would be great.
Speaker #7: Yeah, good morning. Andy, what we see this year is some stability year over year. When you look at the full 12 months within our direct import and domestic replenishment, there may be a little bit over the course of the year movement up on the DOM side.
Jonathan Roiter: Yeah. Good morning, Andy. What we see this year is some stability year over year when you look at the full 12 months within our direct import and domestic replenishment. There may be a little bit, over the course of the year, movement up on the DOM side. Ultimately, we're sitting in H2. If you look last year, 65% of our revenue was H2. There's still a lot left to go. To be able to come down to that exact percentage, I don't think we're in that position, but I would call it stable with possibility of a little bit of increase in the DOM side, which would shift revenue more into Q4.
Jonathan Roiter: Yeah. Good morning, Andy. What we see this year is some stability year over year when you look at the full 12 months within our direct import and domestic replenishment. There may be a little bit, over the course of the year, movement up on the DOM side. Ultimately, we're sitting in H2. If you look last year, 65% of our revenue was H2. There's still a lot left to go. To be able to come down to that exact percentage, I don't think we're in that position, but I would call it stable with possibility of a little bit of increase in the DOM side, which would shift revenue more into Q4.
Speaker #7: But ultimately, we're sitting in H2. If you look last year, 65% of our revenue was H2. So there's still a lot left to go.
Speaker #7: And so to be able to come down to that exact percentage, I don't think we're in that position. But I would call it stable with possibility of a little bit of increase in the DOM side.
Speaker #7: Which would shift revenue more into Q4. Okay, perfect. Thanks so much for that.
Andy Zhang: Okay, perfect. Thanks so much for that.
Andy Zhang: Okay, perfect. Thanks so much for that.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Eric Zhu from Canaccord. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Eric Zhu from Canaccord. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Eric Zhu from Canaccord. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: I thank you very much and good morning. This is Eric for Luke Hannon. I just have a few questions on Paul Patrol. I don't know how much you could share on this, but how exactly does the profit sharing kind of work for the movie from the box office?
Eric Zhu: Thank you very much, good morning. This is Eric on for Luke Hannan. I just have a few questions on PAW Patrol. I don't know how much you could share on this, but how exactly does the profit sharing kind of work for the movie from the box office? For example, if we see a big box office gross amount, how does that translate into the company's P&L? That's the first one.
Eric Zhu: Thank you very much, good morning. This is Eric on for Luke Hannan. I just have a few questions on PAW Patrol. I don't know how much you could share on this, but how exactly does the profit sharing kind of work for the movie from the box office? For example, if we see a big box office gross amount, how does that translate into the company's P&L? That's the first one.
Speaker #5: So for example, if we see a big box office gross amount, how does that translate into the company's P&L? That's the first one.
Jonathan Roiter: I will take that. We're not going to get into our contractual agreements with our partners. What I would say is that this is a movie that we produce. It's a movie that we write, that we direct, that we put together. We have production partners, then we have distribution partners. We share, obviously, directly with them on the upside of the movie. Look forward to having a third record movie that outperforms the second, outperforms the first. That's ultimately what we'd like to see. Then you'd see that flow through, both from entertainment perspective, you see it flow through from a toy perspective. Because of the launch of our recent PAW Patrol game, you'll see that flow through in our digital side. The three creative centers would benefit ultimately from an over-performance.
Jonathan Roiter: I will take that. We're not going to get into our contractual agreements with our partners. What I would say is that this is a movie that we produce. It's a movie that we write, that we direct, that we put together. We have production partners, then we have distribution partners. We share, obviously, directly with them on the upside of the movie. Look forward to having a third record movie that outperforms the second, outperforms the first. That's ultimately what we'd like to see. Then you'd see that flow through, both from entertainment perspective, you see it flow through from a toy perspective. Because of the launch of our recent PAW Patrol game, you'll see that flow through in our digital side. The three creative centers would benefit ultimately from an over-performance.
Speaker #7: I mean, I will take that. I mean, we're not going to get into our contractual agreements with our partners, but what I would say is that this is a movie that we produce.
Speaker #7: It's a movie that we write, that we direct, that we put together. We have production partners, and then we have distribution partners, and we share, obviously, in the upside directly with them on the upside.
Speaker #7: Of the movie. And so we look forward to having another, a third movie—a record movie that outperforms the second, outperforms the first. That's ultimately what we like to see.
Speaker #7: And then you'd see that flow through both from entertainment perspective you see a flow through from a toy perspective. And because of the launch of our recent Paul Patrol game, you'll see that flow through in our digital side.
Speaker #7: So the three creative centers would benefit ultimately from an overperformance.
Speaker #6: Yeah. And if you're asking, Eric, I think you were asking directly about box office in that question. The box office revenue will flow through our Entertainment line, but it will not be broken out specifically.
Christina Miller: Yeah. Eric, I think you were asking directly about box office in that question. The box office revenue will flow through our entertainment line, but it will not be broken out specifically.
Christina Miller: Yeah. Eric, I think you were asking directly about box office in that question. The box office revenue will flow through our entertainment line, but it will not be broken out specifically.
Speaker #1: Great. Thank you very much. And then the last question for me is, conservatively, you've talked about the second window of product and distribution sales.
Eric Zhu: Great. Thank you very much. The last question from me is, historically, you've talked about the second window of product and distribution sales. I'm assuming the answer is yes, but just checking if that's already baked into your outlook or is it that kind of like an incremental amount of sales?
Eric Zhu: Great. Thank you very much. The last question from me is, historically, you've talked about the second window of product and distribution sales. I'm assuming the answer is yes, but just checking if that's already baked into your outlook or is it that kind of like an incremental amount of sales?
Speaker #1: I'm assuming the answer is yes, but just checking if that's already baked into your outlook or is it that kind of like an incremental amount of sales?
Speaker #6: It's the second window streaming is about. It's always timing related, but it would be baked into our entertainment revenue as well.
Christina Miller: The second window streaming is always timing related, but it would be baked into our entertainment revenue as well.
Christina Miller: The second window streaming is always timing related, but it would be baked into our entertainment revenue as well.
Speaker #1: Sounds good. Thank you very much. That's it for me. I will go back to the queue. Thanks.
Eric Zhu: Sounds good. Thank you very much. That's it for me. I will go back to the queue. Thanks.
Eric Zhu: Sounds good. Thank you very much. That's it for me. I will go back to the queue. Thanks.
Speaker #6: There.
Christina Miller: Yep.
Christina Miller: Yep.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Martin Landry from Stiefel. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Martin Landry from Stifel. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Martin Landry from Stifel. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hi, it's Jesse on for Martin. Can you hear me?
[Analyst] (Stifel): Hi, it's Jesse on for Martin. Can you hear me?
Martin Landry: Hi, it's Jesse on for Martin. Can you hear me?
Speaker #6: Yes.
Christina Miller: Yes.
Christina Miller: Yes.
Speaker #4: So I was wondering how your shelf space compared to the last Paul Patrol movie. If you can recall.
[Analyst] (Stifel): I was wondering how your shelf space compared to the last PAW Patrol movie, if you can recall.
Martin Landry: I was wondering how your shelf space compared to the last PAW Patrol movie, if you can recall.
Speaker #6: Yeah, I would tell you that it's probably about the same. Again, each retailer has curated programs, and we have out-of-aisle placement around it that is specific to the movie.
Christina Miller: Yeah. I would tell you that it's probably at the same. Again, each retailer has curated programs, and we have out-of-aisle placement around it that is specific to the movie. It is definitely at or above, I would say, the last couple of movies.
Christina Miller: Yeah. I would tell you that it's probably at the same. Again, each retailer has curated programs, and we have out-of-aisle placement around it that is specific to the movie. It is definitely at or above, I would say, the last couple of movies.
Speaker #6: And so it is definitely at or above, I would say, the last couple of movies.
Speaker #4: Okay, thanks. And maybe you've talked about in the past seeing a roughly 25% bump. Would you expect something similar this time around?
[Analyst] (Stifel): Okay, thanks. Maybe you've talked about, in the past, seeing a roughly 25% bump. Would you expect something similar this time around?
Martin Landry: Okay, thanks. Maybe you've talked about, in the past, seeing a roughly 25% bump. Would you expect something similar this time around?
Jonathan Roiter: A 25% bump about what?
Jonathan Roiter: A 25% bump about what?
Speaker #7: 25% bump about what?
Speaker #6: Yeah, I'm not sure what that bump is directly in reference to.
Christina Miller: Yeah, I'm not sure what that bump is directly in reference to.
Christina Miller: Yeah, I'm not sure what that bump is directly in reference to.
Speaker #4: 25% bump to revenue, sorry.
[Analyst] (Stifel): 25% bump to revenue. Sorry.
Martin Landry: 25% bump to revenue. Sorry.
Speaker #7: For what? For the movie?
Jonathan Roiter: For what? For the movie?
Jonathan Roiter: For what? For the movie?
Speaker #6: To toy. I'm sorry.
Christina Miller: To toy? I'm sorry.
Christina Miller: To toy? I'm sorry.
[Analyst] (Stifel): Sorry. I was going back to the PAW Patrol movie. Sorry about that.
Martin Landry: Sorry. I was going back to the PAW Patrol movie. Sorry about that.
Speaker #4: Sorry, I'll go back to the Paul Patrol movie. Sorry about that.
Speaker #7: So what we said is in the last calls, I'm not sure about the 25%, but what we said is that last year there's a $20 million at our last movie.
Jonathan Roiter: What we said is, in the last call, I'm not sure about the 25%, what we said is that last year there's that $20 million at our last movie, where we recognize when we give the movie to our production partner, last movie, we recognized $20 million of revenue. 23 actually. In 2023, excuse me.
Jonathan Roiter: What we said is, in the last call, I'm not sure about the 25%, what we said is that last year there's that $20 million at our last movie, where we recognize when we give the movie to our production partner, last movie, we recognized $20 million of revenue. 23 actually. In 2023, excuse me.
Speaker #7: Where we recognize when we give the movie to our production partner, we are then able to recognize last movie, we recognize $20 million of revenue.
Speaker #7: '23 actually, in 2023, excuse me.
Speaker #6: It's related to the timing of the delivery of the movie since we deliver the movie to Paramount and they distribute it for us. That is.
Christina Miller: It's related to the timing of the delivery of the movie. Since we deliver the movie to Paramount and they distribute it for us, that is where.
Christina Miller: It's related to the timing of the delivery of the movie. Since we deliver the movie to Paramount and they distribute it for us, that is where.
Speaker #7: And the advertising. And then there's advertising that pretty much offsets that revenue base.
Jonathan Roiter: There's amortization that pretty much offsets that revenue base.
Jonathan Roiter: There's amortization that pretty much offsets that revenue base.
Speaker #4: Okay, thank you so much.
[Analyst] (Stifel): Okay. Thank you so much.
Martin Landry: Okay. Thank you so much.
Jonathan Roiter: Okay.
Jonathan Roiter: Okay.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Garrick Johnson from Seaport Research. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Your next question comes from Gerrick Johnson from Seaport Research. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Gerrick Johnson from Seaport Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Oh, hey. Can you tell us what your anticipating in terms of revenue amortization for the movie in the third quarter? I can tell you what we did last time.
Gerrick Johnson: Oh, hey. Can you tell us what you're anticipating in terms of revenue amortization for the movie in Q3?
Gerrick Johnson: Oh, hey. Can you tell us what you're anticipating in terms of revenue amortization for the movie in Q3?
Jonathan Roiter: I can tell you what we did last time, and what I just said, Gerrick, which was it was $20-ish million of revenue, and the vast majority of that, we had amortization expense.
Jonathan Roiter: I can tell you what we did last time, and what I just said, Gerrick, which was it was $20-ish million of revenue, and the vast majority of that, we had amortization expense.
Speaker #7: And what I just said, Garrick, which was it was 20-ish million dollars of revenue. And the vast majority of that we had amortization expense.
Speaker #7: Yeah, okay. All right, great. And then can you discuss the fourth quarter again? Is a larger proportion of the back half, was that because of the shift in FOB to domestic?
Gerrick Johnson: Yeah. Okay. All right, great. Can you discuss the Q4 again? Is a larger proportion of the H2, was that because of the shift in FOB to domestic or is there more going on there?
Gerrick Johnson: Yeah. Okay. All right, great. Can you discuss the Q4 again? Is a larger proportion of the H2, was that because of the shift in FOB to domestic or is there more going on there?
Speaker #7: Or is there more going on there? So my comment before was that DOM and FOB, so direct import and domestic replenishment, for the year, will be closer to 2025 than historical with a possibility of there being more domestic replenishment.
Jonathan Roiter: My comment before was that DOM and FOB, so direct import and domestic replenishment, for the year will be closer to 2025 than historical, with the possibility of there being more domestic replenishment. At the very tail end of that question, I kind of referenced that you would see that in Q4. When you look at our Q3 numbers with the pull-forward that took place, obviously that has an implication for what our revenue and ultimately our profits will be in Q3.
Jonathan Roiter: My comment before was that DOM and FOB, so direct import and domestic replenishment, for the year will be closer to 2025 than historical, with the possibility of there being more domestic replenishment. At the very tail end of that question, I kind of referenced that you would see that in Q4. When you look at our Q3 numbers with the pull-forward that took place, obviously that has an implication for what our revenue and ultimately our profits will be in Q3.
Speaker #7: Question, I kind of referenced that domestic that you would see in Q4. And so, when you look at our Q3 numbers—with the pull forward that took place—obviously that has an implication for what our revenue and ultimately our profits will be in Q3.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. I realize you didn't increase your guidance, I have a feeling I know the answer. Retailers have been talking very positively about toys, have had good same-store sales. Talking about the publicly traded US retailers like Target, Walmart, so forth. It just seems to me we've been getting word out from the field that they're feeling more optimistic. Are you seeing any increases in orders for the H2, maybe ramping up back to school a little bit?
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. I realize you didn't increase your guidance, I have a feeling I know the answer. Retailers have been talking very positively about toys, have had good same-store sales. Talking about the publicly traded US retailers like Target, Walmart, so forth. It just seems to me we've been getting word out from the field that they're feeling more optimistic. Are you seeing any increases in orders for the H2, maybe ramping up back to school a little bit?
Speaker #7: Okay. And I realize you didn't increase your guidance. So, I have a feeling I know the answer, but retailers have been talking very positively about toys.
Speaker #7: They have had good same-store sales. Talking about the publicly traded U.S. retailers like Target and Walmart, and so forth. It just seems to me we've been getting word out from the field that they're feeling more optimistic.
Speaker #7: So are you seeing any increases in orders for the back half? Maybe ramping up back to school a little bit? Yeah, Garrick, I ultimately because guidance is something that we've reiterated.
Gerrick Johnson: Yeah, Garrett, ultimately because guidance is something that we've reiterated. Just to remind you, revenue last year, 65% of the revenue was in the H2. All our profits last year were in the H2 of last year. The movie has not yet come out. When you look at our year-to-date performance, we are tracking 1% growth so far. There's just a lot of baseball left to be played. It's when the consumer shows up, we think we have winning products, we think we have winning entertainment content, we think we have winning digital content. Ultimately, the consumer shows up in the H2 of the year and this is where we stand from reiterating our guidance on this call.
Gerrick Johnson: Yeah, Garrett, ultimately because guidance is something that we've reiterated. Just to remind you, revenue last year, 65% of the revenue was in the H2. All our profits last year were in the H2 of last year. The movie has not yet come out. When you look at our year-to-date performance, we are tracking 1% growth so far. There's just a lot of baseball left to be played. It's when the consumer shows up, we think we have winning products, we think we have winning entertainment content, we think we have winning digital content. Ultimately, the consumer shows up in the H2 of the year and this is where we stand from reiterating our guidance on this call.
Speaker #7: Just remind you, revenue last year, 65% of the revenue was in the back half. All our profits last year were in the back half of last year.
Speaker #7: The movie has not yet come out. When you look at our year-to-date performance, we are tracking 1% growth so far. And so there's just a lot of baseball left to be played.
Speaker #7: It's when the consumer shows up and we think we have winning products, we think we have winning entertainment content, we think of winning digital content, but ultimately the consumer shows up in the second half of the year and this is where we stand from a reiterating or why we are we reiterating our guidance on this call.
Speaker #7: Okay, all right. Thank you, John.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. All right. Thank you, John.
Gerrick Johnson: Okay. All right. Thank you, John.
Speaker #1: Is there no further questions at this time? I'll turn the call back over to Christina for closing remarks.
Operator 2: There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to Christina for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to Christina for closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Thank you all for being with us today. We look forward to talking to you again on our call in the fall Q3. Thank you.
Christina Miller: Thank you all for being with us today. We look forward to talking to you again on our call in the fall, Q3. Thank you.
Christina Miller: Thank you all for being with us today. We look forward to talking to you again on our call in the fall, Q3. Thank you.
Operator 2: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.