Q2 2026 Old National Bancorp Earnings Call

July 22, 2026

Lynell Walton: Welcome to the Old National Bancorp Q2 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with the SEC's Regulation FD. The audio webcast and corresponding presentation slides can be found on the investor relations page at oldnational.com and will be archived there for 12 months. Management would like to remind everyone that certain statements on today's call may be forward-looking in nature and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ from those discussed. The company refers you to its forward-looking statement legend in the earnings release and presentation slides. In addition, certain slides contain non-GAAP measures which management believes provide more appropriate comparisons. These non-GAAP measures are intended to assist investors' understanding of performance trends.

Operator: Welcome to the Old National Bancorp Q2 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with the SEC's Regulation FD. The audio webcast and corresponding presentation slides can be found on the investor relations page at oldnational.com and will be archived there for 12 months. Management would like to remind everyone that certain statements on today's call may be forward-looking in nature and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ from those discussed. The company refers you to its forward-looking statement legend in the earnings release and presentation slides.

Speaker #1: The audio webcast and corresponding presentation slides can be found on the Investor Relations page at oldnational.com and will be archived there for 12 months.

Speaker #1: Management would like to remind everyone that certain statements on today's call may be forward-looking in nature and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ from those discussed.

Speaker #1: The company refers you to its forward-looking statement legend in the earnings release and presentation slides. The company's risk factors are fully disclosed and discussed within its SEC filings.

Speaker #1: In addition, certain slides contain non-GAAP measures, which management believes provide more appropriate comparisons. These non-GAAP measures are intended to assist investors' understanding of performance trends.

Operator: In addition, certain slides contain non-GAAP measures which management believes provide more appropriate comparisons. These non-GAAP measures are intended to assist investors' understanding of performance trends. Reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of the presentation. I'd now like to turn the call over to Old National's Chairman and CEO, Jim Ryan, for opening remarks. Mr. Ryan.

Speaker #1: Reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of the presentation. I'd now like to turn the call over to Old National's Chairman and CEO, Jim Ryan, for opening remarks.

Lynell Walton: Reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of the presentation. I'd now like to turn the call over to Old National's Chairman and CEO, Jim Ryan, for opening remarks. Mr. Ryan.

Speaker #1: Mr. Ryan?

Speaker #2: Good morning. Earlier today, Old National reported record second quarter results for 2026. In short, this was an exceptional quarter for Old National. We achieved record adjusted EPS along with record net income and a record efficiency ratio.

Jim Ryan: Good morning. Earlier today, Old National reported record Q2 results for 2026. In short, this was an exceptional quarter for Old National. We achieved record adjusted EPS along with record net income and a record efficiency ratio. We also generated approximately a 20% adjusted return on average tangible common equity, an adjusted ROA of 1.39%, and continue to produce strong profitable growth across our company. These results show what happens when we stay focused on the fundamentals, growing high-quality relationships, maintaining disciplined credit and expense management, investing in talent and technology, and building tangible book value over time. The strength of our franchise was clear throughout the quarter. End-of-period loans increased by $1 billion, or 8% annualized, driven by robust, high-quality commercial production. Commercial production reached $3.5 billion and our period-end commercial pipeline hit a new record of $5.6 billion.

Speaker #2: We also generated approximately a 20% adjusted return on average tangible common equity and an adjusted ROA of 1.39%, and continued to produce strong, profitable growth across our company.

Speaker #2: These results show what happens when we stay focused on the fundamentals: growing high-quality relationships, maintaining disciplined credit and expense management, investing in talent and technology, and building tangible book value over time.

Speaker #2: The strength of our franchise was clear throughout the quarter. End-of-period loans increased by $1 billion, or 8% annualized, driven by robust, high-quality commercial production.

Speaker #2: Commercial production reached $3.5 billion, and our period-end commercial pipeline hit a new record of $5.6 billion. We remain actively focused on winning new business where we can develop full relationships, meet our return expectations, and maintain the strong credit profile that has long been a hallmark of Old National.

Jim Ryan: We remain actively focused on winning new business where we can develop full relationships, meet our return expectations, and maintain the strong credit profile that has long been a hallmark of Old National. Fee income was another bright spot. We experienced broad-based strength across all fee businesses. This diversification is intentional. As we grow, we are building a stronger, more balanced earnings engine that is less reliant on net interest income. We also continue to demonstrate strong operational discipline. We delivered record GAAP and adjusted efficiency ratios with the adjusted ratio at 45.2%, marking our seventh straight quarter of positive year-over-year operating leverage. We are investing in technology, AI, and process improvements to make Old National more scalable while remaining disciplined with expenses. That balance is key. We are investing for growth while maintaining operational efficiency. Credit quality remains a key strength.

Speaker #2: Fee income was another bright spot. We experienced broad-based strength across all fee businesses. This diversification is intentional. As we grow, we are building a stronger, more balanced earnings engine that is less reliant on net interest income.

Speaker #2: We also continue to demonstrate strong operational discipline. We delivered record GAAP and adjusted efficiency ratios, with the adjusted ratio at 45.2%, marking our seventh straight quarter of positive year-over-year operating leverage.

Speaker #2: We are investing in technology, AI, and process improvements to make Old NATIONAL more scalable while remaining disciplined with expenses. That balance is key. We are investing for growth while maintaining operational efficiency.

Speaker #2: Credit quality remains a key strength. Non-accruals decreased by $50 million, or 10%, from the prior quarter, and net charge-offs were consistent with our expectations.

Jim Ryan: Non-accruals decreased by $50 million or 10% from the prior quarter, and net charge-offs were consistent with our expectations. We stay diligent and proactive in managing credit. Our loan portfolio is well diversified, our underwriting standards remain rigorous, and we believe our straightforward community banking model positions us well through economic cycles. Our capital position continues to be strong. Tangible book value per share increased 14% year over year. Our CET1 ratio was 11.09%, and we returned $163 million of capital to shareholders through dividends and buybacks. We will continue to approach capital allocation carefully, supporting organic growth, investing in the business, maintaining strong capital levels, and returning capital to shareholders. In summary, this was a record-breaking quarter and another clear example of Old National successfully executing its organic growth strategy.

Speaker #2: We stayed diligent and proactive in managing credit. Our loan portfolio is well-diversified. Our underwriting standards remain rigorous. And we believe our straightforward community banking model positions us well through economic cycles.

Speaker #2: Our capital position continues to be strong. Tangible book value per share increased 14% year-over-year; our CET-1 ratio was 11.09%; and we returned $163 million of capital to shareholders through dividends and buybacks.

Speaker #2: We will continue to approach capital allocation carefully. Supporting organic growth, investing in the business, maintaining strong capital levels, and returning capital to shareholders. In summary, this was a record-breaking quarter and another clear example of Old NATIONAL successfully executing its organic growth strategy.

Speaker #2: We delivered strong loan growth, broad-based fee income, record efficiency, solid credit metrics, and returned significant capital back to our shareholders. We do not need to rely on acquisitions to meet our goals.

Jim Ryan: We delivered strong loan growth, broad-based fee income, record efficiency, solid credit metrics, and returned significant capital back to our shareholders. We do not need to rely on acquisitions to meet our goals. Our focus stays the same, growing organically, deepening client relationships, investing in our people and platform, managing risk carefully, and creating long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to John to discuss this quarter's financial results in more detail.

Speaker #2: Our focus stays the same: growing organically, deepening client relationships, investing in our people and platform, managing risk carefully, and creating long-term value for our shareholders.

Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call over to John to discuss this quarter's financial results in more detail.

Speaker #3: Thanks. As Jim mentioned, and as summarized on slide 4, we delivered a record quarter, driven by strong organic loan growth, disciplined expense management, stable credit performance, and increased capital return.

John Moran: Thanks. As Jim mentioned, and is summarized on slide four, we delivered a record quarter driven by strong organic loan growth, disciplined expense management, stable credit performance, and increased capital return. Beginning on slide five, we reported GAAP Q2 EPS of $0.65. Excluding $12.1 million in merger-related expenses and a $13.2 million valuation gain on the settlement of the Bremer pension plan, adjusted EPS were also $0.65. Results were driven by better-than-expected loan growth and strong fee income, along with well-controlled expenses. Credit remained stable with 22 basis points of non-PCD charge-offs. Our profitability profile, as measured by ROA and on TCE, remained top decile versus our peers. Capital finished the quarter with CET1 over 11%, and we grew tangible book value per share 11% annualized from the prior quarter and 14% year over year.

Speaker #3: Beginning on slide 5, we reported GAAP Q2 earnings per share of $0.65. Excluding $12.1 million in merger-related expenses and a $13.2 million valuation gain on the settlement of the Bremer pension plan, adjusted earnings per share were also $0.65.

Speaker #3: Results were driven by better-than-expected loan growth and strong fee income, along with well-controlled expenses. Credit remained stable, with 22 basis points of non-PCD charge-offs.

Speaker #3: Our profitability profile, as measured by return on assets and on tangible common equity, remained top decile versus our peers. Capital finished the quarter with CET-1 over 11%, and we grew tangible book value per share 11% annualized from the prior quarter and 14% year-over-year.

Speaker #3: We delivered this growth even as we absorbed Bremer one-time charges, generated better-than-expected balance sheet growth in the first half of the year, and returned capital.

John Moran: We delivered this growth even as we absorbed Bremer one-time charges, generated better-than-expected balance sheet growth in H1, and returned capital. Specifically, during the Q2, we returned a total of $163 million to shareholders in the form of increased cash dividends and share repurchases. On slide six, you can see our quarterly balance sheet trends underscoring continued strength in our liquidity and capital positions. Our loan-to-deposit ratio increased modestly to 91%, and the CET1 ratio remains above 11%. Again, we compounded tangible book value per share year over year despite the impact of the Bremer merger charges over the past year and the increased pace of capital returns. We repurchased $107 million or 4.4 million shares during the current quarter and 10.5 million shares over the last year.

Speaker #3: Specifically, during the second quarter, we returned a total of $163 million to shareholders in the form of increased cash dividends and share repurchases. On slide 6, you can see our quarterly balance sheet trends underscoring continued strength in our liquidity and capital positions.

Speaker #3: Our loan-to-deposit ratio increased modestly to 91%, and the CET1 ratio remains above 11%. Again, we compounded tangible book value per share year-over-year despite the impact of the Bremer merger charges over the past year and the increased pace of capital return.

Speaker #3: We repurchased $107 million, or 4.4 million shares, during the current quarter and 10.5 million shares over the last year. With dividends and repurchases, our combined payout ratio was 65% of Q2 net income to common. As we've stated in the last several quarters, the best investment we can make today continues to be in ourselves.

John Moran: With dividends and repurchases, our combined payout ratio was 65% of Q2 net income to common. As we've stated in the last several quarters, the best investment we can make today continues to be in ourselves. On slide seven, we show trends in earning assets. Total loans grew 8.3% annualized from last quarter, led by balanced growth in both our CRE and our C&I portfolios. Production was also diversified across our commercial book and predominantly floating rate. The next few quarters should be supported by a record high pipeline of $5.6 billion, up 17% from a year ago. The investment portfolio grew modestly with purchases coming on at higher yields. We expect approximately $2.3 billion in cash flow over the next 12 months. Today, new money yields are running about 100 basis points above back book yields on securities.

Speaker #3: On slide 7, we show trends in earning assets. Total loans grew 8.3% annualized from last quarter, led by balanced growth in both our CRE and our C&I portfolios.

Speaker #3: Production was also diversified across our commercial book and predominantly floating rate. The next few quarters should be supported by a record high pipeline of 5.6 billion dollars up 17% from a year ago.

Speaker #3: The investment portfolio grew modestly, with purchases coming on at higher yields. We expect approximately $2.3 billion in cash flow over the next 12 months.

Speaker #3: Today, new money yields are running about 100 basis points above back book yields on securities. Strong loan growth, ongoing repricing across both loans and securities, and continued deposit pricing discipline support net interest income growth over the course of 2026.

John Moran: Strong loan growth, ongoing repricing across both loans and securities, and continued deposit pricing discipline supports net interest income growth over the course of 2026. On the NIM, I would point out that Q2 margin was impacted 2 basis points by the full quarter effect of our sub-debt issuance in late January and lower SOFR rates during the quarter, without which margin would have been up slightly. Moving to slide eight, we show trends in deposits. Total deposits increased 3.4% annualized, primarily driven by commercial and public fund growth, partly offset by seasonal tax outflows in retail deposits. Non-interest-bearing deposits remained 23% of total deposits consistent with the prior quarter, and like our loan pipelines, deposit pipelines remained very healthy.

Speaker #3: On the NIM, I would point out that Q2 margin was impacted 2 basis points by the full quarter effect of our sub debt issuance in late January, and lower SOFR rates during the quarter, without which margin would have been up slightly.

Speaker #3: Moving to slide 8, we show trends in deposits. Total deposits increased 3.4% annualized, primarily driven by commercial and public fund growth, partly offset by seasonal tax outflows in retail deposits.

Speaker #3: Non-interest-bearing deposits remained at 23% of total deposits, consistent with the prior quarter. Like our loan pipelines, deposit pipelines remained very healthy. We were able to decrease total deposit costs by 1 basis point and lowered interest-bearing deposit costs a similar 1 basis point this quarter, all while remaining on offense with respect to client acquisition in a competitive deposit environment.

John Moran: We were able to decrease total deposit costs by 1 basis point and lowered interest-bearing deposits a similar 1 basis point linked quarter, all while remaining on offense with respect to client acquisition in a competitive deposit environment. Overall, our deposit pricing strategy continues to perform as we expected. Slide nine shows our quarterly income statement trends. As I mentioned earlier, adjusted earnings per share were a record $0.65 for the quarter. Our profitability remains peer leading. Moving on to slide 10, we present details of our net interest income and margin, both of which reflect my prior comments around the full quarter impact of our sub-debt issuance and lower SOFR rates in the quarter. We anticipate growth in NII dollars to be supported by strong asset generation, stable funding costs, and fixed asset repricing.

Speaker #3: Overall, our deposit pricing strategy continues to perform as we expected. Slide 9 shows our quarterly income statement trends. As I mentioned earlier, adjusted earnings per share were a record 65 cents for the quarter and our profitability remains peer leading.

Speaker #3: Moving on to slide 10, we present details of our net interest income and margin, both of which reflect my prior comments around the full-quarter impact of our sub debt issuance and lower SOFR rates in the quarter.

Speaker #3: We anticipate growth in NII dollars to be supported by strong asset generation, stable funding costs, and fixed asset repricing. Also, the combination of our higher floating rate production and earning asset remix opportunities positions us well.

John Moran: The combination of our higher floating rate production and earning asset remix opportunities positions us well. Slide 11 shows trends in adjusted non-interest income, which was $140 million for the quarter, exceeding our guidance. We saw better than expected performance within all our fee businesses. The other income line was elevated this quarter by approximately $10 million due to market value adjustments, higher BOLI income, and an asset recovery. While these items are core, we would expect this line to run rate closer to Q1 levels for the balance of the year. Continuing to slide 12, adjusted non-interest expense was $360 million for the quarter. Run rate expenses remained well controlled, driving positive operating leverage both quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year, while delivering a record low of 45% efficiency ratio. On slide 13, we present our credit trends.

Speaker #3: Slide 11 shows trends in adjusted non-interest income, which was $140 million for the quarter, exceeding our guidance. We saw better-than-expected performance within all our fee businesses.

Speaker #3: The other income line was elevated this quarter by approximately $10 million due to market value adjustments, higher BOLI income, and an asset recovery.

Speaker #3: While these items are core, we would expect this line to run rate closer to Q1 levels for the balance of the year. Continuing to slide 12, adjusted non-interest expense was $360 million for the quarter.

Speaker #3: Run-rate expenses remained well controlled, driving positive operating leverage both quarter over quarter and year over year, while delivering a record-low 45% efficiency ratio.

Speaker #3: On slide 13, we present our credit trends. Total net charge-offs were 26 basis points or 22 basis points excluding charge-offs on PCD loans. Criticized and classified loans declined 109 million dollars this quarter while non-accrual loans decreased to 91 basis points of total loans marking several quarters of improving performance driven by active portfolio management.

John Moran: Total net charge-offs were 26 basis points, or 22 basis points excluding charge-offs on PCD loans. Criticized and classified loans declined $109 million this quarter, while non-accrual loans decreased to 91 basis points of total loans, marking several quarters of improving performance driven by active portfolio management. The Q2's allowance for credit losses to total loans, including the reserve for unfunded commitments, was 121 basis points, down 1 basis point from the prior quarter, primarily driven by charge-offs on PCD loans and improved credit quality. Our qualitative reserves continue to incorporate a 100% weighting on the Moody's F2 scenario, with additional qualitative factors to capture global economic uncertainty. Slide 14 presents key credit metrics relative to peers.

Speaker #3: The second quarter’s allowance for credit losses to total loans, including the reserve for unfunded commitments, was 121 basis points, down 1 basis point from the prior quarter, primarily driven by charge-offs on PCD loans and improved credit quality.

Speaker #3: Our qualitative reserves continue to incorporate a 100% weighting on the Moody's S2 scenario, with additional qualitative factors to capture global economic uncertainty. Slide 14 presents key credit metrics relative to peers.

Speaker #3: We have continued to experience a lower conversion rate of NPLs to NCOs as compared to our peers, which is driven by our approach to client selection on the front end and credit workouts on the back end.

John Moran: We have continued to experience a lower conversion rate of NPLs to NCOs as compared to our peers, which is driven by our approach to client selection on the front end and credit workouts on the back end. We remain comfortable around the credit outlook. On slide 15, you can see our strong capital position at the end of the quarter. Tangible book value per share was up 11% annualized linked quarter and 14% year over year. Regulatory ratios and TCE remained stable linked quarter, with strong earnings absorbed by quarterly loan growth and continued share repurchases. As previously mentioned, we repurchased $107 million of common stock during the Q2, and we have $277 million remaining under our program. We continue to believe we would see approximately 100 basis points of capital benefit under the proposed Basel III capital rule changes.

Speaker #3: We remain comfortable around the credit outlook. On slide 15, you can see our strong capital position at the end of the quarter. Tangible book value per share was up 11% annualized last quarter and 14% year over year.

Speaker #3: Regulatory ratios and TCE remained stable throughout the quarter, with strong earnings absorbed by quarterly loan growth and continued share repurchases. As previously mentioned, we repurchased $107 million of common stock during the second quarter, and we have $277 million remaining under our program.

Speaker #3: We continue to believe we would see approximately 100 basis points of capital benefit under the proposed Basel III capital rule changes. These changes, if finalized, would obviously increase capital flexibility.

John Moran: These changes, if finalized, would obviously increase capital flexibility. Slide 16 includes our outlook for the full year 2026. While our overall expectations remain largely unchanged, we have increased our loan growth and non-interest income guidance from the prior outlook provided. We believe our year-to-date results and current pipeline support full year loan growth of 6% to 8%. Our NII guidance is unchanged but updated for the impact of our sub-debt issuance. The exact path of NIM and NII in the H2 will obviously be dependent on growth dynamics, the shape of the yield curve, the absolute level of rates in the middle of the curve, and the competitive deposit landscape. Our base case outlook assumes no Fed rate actions this year and a stable 5-year Treasury.

Speaker #3: Slide 16 includes our outlook for the full year 2026. While our overall expectations remain largely unchanged, we have increased our loan growth and non-interest income guidance from the prior outlook provided.

Speaker #3: We believe our year-to-date results and current pipeline support full-year loan growth of 6% to 8%. Our NII guidance is unchanged, but updated for the impact of our sub debt issuance.

Speaker #3: The exact path of NIM and NII in the back half of the year will obviously be dependent on growth dynamics, the shape of the yield curve, the absolute level of rates in the middle of the curve, and the competitive deposit landscape.

Speaker #3: Our base case outlook assumes no Fed rate actions this year and a stable five-year Treasury. Given our strong loan growth outlook, our ability to effectively manage our funding costs, ongoing fixed asset repricing, and earning asset remix opportunities, we believe our balance sheet is well positioned, and we see more opportunities than challenges in the back half of the year.

John Moran: Given our strong loan growth outlook, our ability to effectively manage our funding costs, ongoing fixed asset repricing, and earning asset remix opportunities, we believe our balance sheet is well-positioned, and we see more opportunities than challenges in the H2. We have increased our non-interest income guidance to reflect 2 Qs outperformance and expect our core fee businesses to continue to perform well. Our outlook for expenses, credit, and tax rates are all unchanged. In addition, we expect to fully utilize the remaining buyback authorization opportunistically over the course of the current plan period, which runs through the end of February 2027. In aggregate, you'll note that we continue to expect full-year results that yield 15% plus growth in earnings per share and again feature positive operating leverage with peer-leading profitability, good growth in fees, controlled expenses, and normalized credit.

Speaker #3: We have increased our non-interest income guidance to reflect Q2's outperformance and expect our core fee businesses to continue to perform well. Our outlook for expenses, credit, and tax rates are all unchanged.

Speaker #3: In addition, we expect to fully utilize the remaining buyback authorization opportunistically over the course of the current planned period, which runs through the end of February 2027.

Speaker #3: In aggregate, you'll note that we continue to expect full-year results that yield 15%+ growth in earnings per share and again feature positive operating leverage with peer-leading profitability, good growth in fees, controlled expenses, and normalized credit.

Speaker #3: To close, our first-half performance underscores the strength of our franchise, the consistency of our execution, and the durability of our business model. Organic loan growth remains strong, pipelines are at record levels, and credit performance continues to be stable.

John Moran: To close, our H1 performance underscores the strength of our franchise, the consistency of our execution, and the durability of our business model. Organic loan growth remains strong, pipelines are at record levels, and credit performance continues to be stable. Our fee businesses are performing well, and our continued focus on efficiency and profitability gives us the flexibility to invest in the franchise while returning capital to shareholders. As Jim said at the top of the call, Old National enters the H2 of 2026 with strong momentum and increased conviction in our ability to execute. With those comments, I'd like to open the call for your questions.

Speaker #3: Our fee businesses are performing well and are continued focus on efficiency and profitability gives us the flexibility to invest in the franchise while returning capital to shareholders.

Speaker #3: As Jim said at the top of the call, Old National enters the second half of 2026 with strong momentum and increased conviction in our ability to execute.

Speaker #3: With those comments, I'd like to open the call for your questions.

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Speaker #1: If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Brendan Nozel from Hovdi Group.

Speaker #1: Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Hey, good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well.

Brendan Nosal: Hey, good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well.

Speaker #4: Good morning.

John Moran: Good morning.

Speaker #2: Just starting off here, maybe on capital. Really strong organic loan growth, not only this quarter but expected for the full year. Plans to use the full buyback authorization. Is the overarching message on capital today that you like your current levels and more or less want to tread water here?

Brendan Nosal: Just starting off here maybe on capital. Really strong organic loan growth, not only this quarter, expected for the full year. Plans to use the full buyback authorization. Is the overarching message on capital today that you like your current levels and more or less want to tread water here?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think you've got that right. We feel really comfortable with where we are. Obviously, we've got strong capital ratios, plenty of capital to support organic growth and continue to lean into return of capital to shareholders.

John Moran: Yeah, I think you've got that right. We feel really comfortable with where we are. Obviously, we've got strong capital ratios, plenty of capital to support organic growth and continue to lean into a return of capital to shareholders. That's sort of plan A, organic and capital return.

Speaker #4: So that's sort of plan A: organic growth and capital return.

Speaker #2: I think that still allows us to grow tangible book value per share at a nice clip as well, given the high earnings rate.

Jim Ryan: I think that still allows us to grow tangible book value per share at a nice clip as well, given the high earnings rate.

Speaker #4: Yeah.

John Moran: Yeah.

Speaker #2: Perfect. Maybe turning to the NII outlook and the changes in the complexion of how you get to the number you put out there.

Brendan Nosal: Perfect. Maybe turning to the NII outlook and kind of the changes in the complexion of how you get to the number you put out there. Kind of feels like it implies there's a fair bit of margin expansion in H2, just given the balance sheet growth you're now expecting. Walk us through the puts and takes if that is indeed the right interpretation of how you get there.

Speaker #2: Kind of feels like it implies there's a fair bit of margin expansion in the back half of the year just given the balance sheet growth you're now expecting.

Speaker #2: Kind of walk us through the puts and takes, if that is indeed the right interpretation, of how you get there.

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think you're reading that one right as well. There are a lot of puts and takes, but candidly, we see more opportunities than challenges heading into the back half of this year.

John Moran: Yeah, I think you're reading that one right as well. There's a lot of puts and takes, but candidly, we see more opportunities than challenges heading into H2. We tried to spell some of those out in prepared remarks, but just to underscore them, strong organic growth in H1, which sets us up with higher average earning assets than we had expected. Still got a great opportunity on fixed asset repricing. That's 100 basis points on securities, 60 basis points on loans. The SOFR headwind that we saw in Q2 is not likely to repeat, and in fact, could become a tailwind later this year. We believe we've got meaningful earning asset remix opportunities in front of us.

Speaker #4: And there's really—we tried to spell some of those out in prepared remarks, but just to underscore them: strong organic growth in the first half, which sets us up with higher average earning assets than we had expected.

Speaker #4: We still see a great opportunity on fixed-to-fixed asset repricing. That's 100 basis points on securities and 60 basis points on loans. The SOFR headwind that we saw in the second quarter is not likely to repeat and, in fact, could become a tailwind later this year.

John Moran: That's 100 basis points on securities, 60 basis points on loans. The SOFR headwind that we saw in Q2 is not likely to repeat, and in fact, could become a tailwind later this year. We believe we've got meaningful earning asset remix opportunities in front of us. Just a reminder, we do pick up an extra day in both the Q3 and the Q4. That'll be helpful too. When you add all that up, we think NIM and NII should be improving in the H2 of this year all else equal.

Speaker #4: And then we believe we've got meaningful earning asset remix opportunities in front of us. And then, just a reminder, we do pick up an extra day in both the third quarter and the fourth quarter.

John Moran: Just a reminder, we do pick up an extra day in both the Q3 and the Q4. That'll be helpful too. When you add all that up, we think NIM and NII should be improving in the H2 of this year all else equal.

Speaker #4: And so that'll be helpful too. So, when you add all that up, we think NIM and NII should be improving in the back half of this year, all else equal.

Speaker #2: Fantastic. Thanks, John.

Brendan Nosal: Fantastic. Thanks, John.

Speaker #4: Yeah.

John Moran: Yeah.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Janet Lee with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question comes from the line of Janet Lee with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Janet Lee with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Good morning. On fee income—outside, I mean, obviously a very strong performance on the fee line. Outside of the other income that will normalize back to the first quarter level, should we expect other core fee line items to grow from here?

Janet Lee: Morning.

John Moran: Morning.

Janet Lee: On fee income, obviously a very strong performance on the fee line. Outside of the other income that will normalize back to the Q1 level, should we expect other core fee line items to grow off from here? What is driving such a strong growth in those line items?

Speaker #5: What is driving such strong growth in those line items?

Speaker #4: Yeah, we feel really good about our core fee businesses—are performing really well. And we continue to expect them to do well into the back half of this year.

John Moran: Yeah. We feel really good about our core fee businesses are performing really well. We continue to expect them to do well into the back half of this year. Wealth management has been terrific. Investments has been good. Obviously, that's an area that we've been investing in over the last several years, and we're starting to see the fruits of that. The mortgage business was very solid for us in Q2. Pipeline there is down a little bit, but we continue to be maybe a little bit more enthusiastic than the average bank on the mortgage side. Part of that is really just the team that we picked up down in the Nashville market, which has been really additive to what was already a good mortgage platform here. Then cap markets has been strong, and that sort of follows pipeline and production.

Speaker #4: Wealth management has been terrific. Investments have been good. Obviously, that's an area that we've been investing in over the last several years, and we're starting to see the fruits of that.

Speaker #4: The mortgage business was very solid for us in the second quarter. The pipeline there is down a little bit, but we continue to be, maybe, a little bit more enthusiastic than the average bank on the mortgage side. Part of that is really just the team that we picked up down in the Nashville market, which has been really additive to what was already a good mortgage platform here.

John Moran: Pipeline there is down a little bit, but we continue to be maybe a little bit more enthusiastic than the average bank on the mortgage side. Part of that is really just the team that we picked up down in the Nashville market, which has been really additive to what was already a good mortgage platform here. Then cap markets has been strong, and that sort of follows pipeline and production. With pipelines sitting where they are, we're reasonably bullish on our ability to continue to grow that line too.

Speaker #4: And then cap markets have been strong. And that sort of follows pipeline and production. And with pipelines sitting where they are, we're reasonably bullish on our ability to continue to grow that line, too.

John Moran: With pipelines sitting where they are, we're reasonably bullish on our ability to continue to grow that line too.

Speaker #5: Thank you. And just to make sure that I'm understanding this correctly, your expectation for NIM expansion in the second half of 2026—do you largely expect your deposit cost to stay relatively stable from the 2.23% that you reported in the second quarter?

Janet Lee: Thank you. Just to make sure that I'm understanding this correctly, your expectation for NIM expansion in H2 2026, do you largely expect your deposit cost to stay relatively stable from the 2.23% that you reported in Q2? Could you maybe comment on the spot rate and what you're seeing in terms of the new deposits that are coming in on the rate front? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Could you maybe comment on the spot rate and what you're seeing in terms of the new deposits that are coming in on the rate front?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah, for sure. So, look, the deposit environment continues to be competitive. We have said that it's been competitive for the last three or four years.

John Moran: Yeah, for sure. Look, the deposit environment continues to be competitive. We have said that it's been competitive for the last three, four years. I don't view it as any more competitive than it has been. Spot rate was pretty much right on top of where we were on the quarter. I'm sure you noticed we pulled down total cost a basis point. We believe that we're demonstrating that we can keep our funding costs pretty stable even while staying on offense with respect to new client acquisition. Certainly very pleased with how the deposit strategy has performed. All signs point to continued success there in H2 of this year.

Speaker #4: I mean, I don't view it as any more competitive than it has been. Spot rate was pretty much right on top of where we were.

Speaker #4: On the quarter—and I'm sure you noticed—we pulled down total cost a basis point. So we believe that we're demonstrating that we can keep our funding costs pretty stable, even while staying on offense with respect to new client acquisition.

Speaker #4: So, certainly, we are very pleased with how the deposit strategy has performed, and all signs point to continued success there in the back half of this year.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Janet Lee: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Brandon Rudd with Stephens Inc. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question comes from Brandon Rudd with Stephens Inc. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Brandon Rudd with Stephens Inc. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. My first one is just on the NII guide. Thanks for your comments on the NIM. Just on the earning asset side, should we kind of anticipate that earning assets track with loan growth, or as some securities and cash are remixed into funded loans?

Brandon Rudd: Morning. Thanks for taking my questions. My first one just on the NII guide. Thanks for your comments on the NIM. Just on the earning asset side, should we kind of anticipate that earning assets track with loan growth, or should we think of that as kind of lagging a bit as some securities and cash are remixed into fund loans?

Brandon Rud: Morning. Thanks for taking my questions. My first one just on the NII guide. Thanks for your comments on the NIM. Just on the earning asset side, should we kind of anticipate that earning assets track with loan growth, or should we think of that as kind of lagging a bit as some securities and cash are remixed into fund loans?

Speaker #4: I think that's right. That's part of what we're trying to say by earning asset remix opportunities, right? I think we've got some inside of loans—probably some optimization to do—and then also a little bit of earning asset optimization around the liquidity book.

John Moran: I think that's right. That's part of what we're trying to say by earning asset remix opportunities. I think we've got some inside of loans, probably some optimization to do, and then also a little bit of earning asset optimization around the liquidity book. I think earning assets would probably lag slightly what we're able to do in terms of asset generation on the loan side.

Speaker #4: So, I think earning assets would probably lag slightly behind what we're able to do in terms of asset generation on the loan side.

Speaker #2: Gotcha. Okay, thank you. And then, with your ability to maintain deposit costs inclusive of new growth and loan yields coming on in the high 5% range, does that kind of imply that the incremental growth you're bringing on the balance sheet is actually still accretive overall to margin?

Brandon Rudd: Got you. Okay. Thank you. With your ability to maintain deposit costs inclusive of new growth and loans coming on in the high 5% range, does that kind of imply that the incremental growth you're bringing on the balance sheet is actually still accretive to the overall margin?

Brandon Rud: Got you. Okay. Thank you. With your ability to maintain deposit costs inclusive of new growth and loans coming on in the high 5% range, does that kind of imply that the incremental growth you're bringing on the balance sheet is actually still accretive to the overall margin?

John Moran: I think in terms of new versus runoff, our expectation would be that the asset churn that we've seen in the last, call it two, three quarters, improves somewhat from here. Part of that was we were working out of some classified criticized that had pretty high coupons on the loan side, right? I think that headwind abates, and we've got some earning asset remix opportunity that is margin accretive. In terms of absolute dollars of incremental new coming on, funded with incremental new, probably neutral-ish. I think the better opportunity for us is the remix.

Speaker #4: I think, in terms of new versus runoff, our expectation would be that the asset churn we've seen in the last, call it, two to three quarters, improves somewhat from here.

Speaker #4: And part of that was we were working out of some classified credits that had pretty high coupons on the loan side, right? So I think that that headwind abates, and we've got some earning asset remix opportunity that is margin accretive.

Speaker #4: But in terms of absolute dollars of incremental new coming on, funded with incremental new, probably neutral-ish. I think the better opportunity for us is the remix.

Speaker #2: Got it. Okay, perfect. Thanks for taking my questions.

Brandon Rudd: Got you. Okay, perfect. Thanks for taking my questions.

Brandon Rud: Got you. Okay, perfect. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker #4: Sure.

John Moran: Sure.

Speaker #1: Your next question is from Daniel Tomeo with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question is from Daniel Tamayo with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question is from Daniel Tamayo with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe just starting on yeah, on the loan growth side. It's been a nice year, and you guys are taking the guidance up.

Daniel Tamayo: Thank you.

John Moran: Morning, Dan.

Daniel Tamayo: Good morning, everyone.

John Moran: Morning.

Daniel Tamayo: Maybe just starting on the loan growth side. It's been a nice year and you guys are taking the guidance up. I'm just curious, are you starting to make larger loans within the middle market space in C&I? It seems like the plan is to start to do that, to shift into some larger loans as you get larger. Just curious how much of that's already happening, how much of a difference it's making, and how much of a difference it can make in your growth plans going forward?

Speaker #2: I'm just curious, are you making or are you starting to make larger loans within the middle market space in CNI? It seems like the plan is to start to do that, to shift into some larger loans as you get larger.

Speaker #2: But just curious, how much of that’s already happening? How much of a difference is it making? And how much of a difference can it make in your growth plans going forward?

Speaker #4: Good morning, Daniel. This is Tim. Yeah, we are starting to see that come to fruition in second quarter production, and certainly, as we look at the pipelines in Q3 and beyond, we are seeing those skew larger.

Tim M. Burke, Jr.: Morning, Daniel. This is Tim. Yeah, we are starting to see that come to fruition in Q2 production, and certainly as we look at the pipelines in Q3 and beyond, we are seeing those skew larger, specifically in our growth markets where the opportunities tend to be larger to begin with. That is a focus of ours and we continue to see pipelines grow in that regard. We continue to do a lot of really granular core C&I middle market to lower middle market business that's driving production and driving our pipelines forward. It's a good mix of leaning into the opportunities that come to us in our smaller core markets as well as larger expansion markets.

Speaker #4: Specifically in our growth markets where the opportunities tend to be larger, to begin with. So that is a focus of ours, and we continue to see pipelines grow in that regard.

Speaker #4: But we continue to do a lot of really granular core CNI, middle markets, lower middle market business that's driving production and driving our pipelines forward.

Speaker #4: So it's a good mix of leaning into the opportunities that come to us in our smaller core markets as well as the larger expansion markets.

Speaker #2: Thanks for that, Tim.

Daniel Tamayo: Thanks for that, Tim.

Speaker #4: Yeah, Danny, just a couple of stats. The average C&I loan in the bank is still under a million bucks, so that'll give you a sense that there are a lot of small tickets running through Old National Bank.

John Moran: Danny, just a couple of stats. The average C&I loan in the bank is still under $1 million. That'll give you a sense of there is a lot of small tickets that are running through Old National Bank. A little bit different than most $75 billion banks.

Speaker #4: A little bit different than most $75 billion banks.

Speaker #2: Oh, that's great. Understood. Maybe on the just on the funding of that, this incremental loan growth in the guide, do you think I guess, will it be more expensive at least on the margin from that mid to mid to high?

Daniel Tamayo: No, that's great. Understood. Maybe just on the funding of that incremental loan growth in the guide. I guess, will it be more expensive, at least on the margin from that mid to high? Do you think it could impact the margin as we move to the back half of the year into 2027?

Speaker #2: Do you think it could impact the margin as we move into the back half of the year and into '27?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I would say when you look at what's driving the pipelines, it's core C&I business, and we feel really bullish about the investments we're making in that business and the growth we're seeing in the pipelines.

Tim M. Burke, Jr.: Yeah, I would say when you look at what's driving the pipelines, it's core C&I business, and we feel really bullish about the investments we're making in that business and the growth we're seeing in the pipelines. Half of all the loan production we had in Q2 was from C&I. We continue to see those pipelines grow, and as you know, with those types of relationships, we're getting the whole relationship. You're seeing deposit pipelines grow in line with that C&I loan pipeline growing. We see that as a continual opportunity for us to drive good deposit growth.

Speaker #4: Half of all the loan production we had in Q2 was from CNI. We continue to see those pipelines grow. And as you know, with those types of relationships, we're getting the whole relationship.

Speaker #4: So you're seeing deposit pipelines grow in line with that CNI loan pipeline growing. So, we see that as a continual opportunity for us to drive good deposit growth.

Speaker #2: Okay, that's great. Thanks for the color, guys. I'll step back—appreciate it.

Daniel Tamayo: Okay, that's great. Thanks for the color, guys. I'll step back. Appreciate it.

Speaker #4: Thanks.

John Moran: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question is from Chris McGrady with KDW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question is from Chris McGratty with KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question is from Chris McGratty with KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Chris.

John Moran: Morning, Chris.

Chris McGratty: Great. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. On loan spreads, some of your peers have talked about growth coming at perhaps a little bit tighter spreads. Are you seeing any evidence of that in your markets?

Speaker #5: Oh, great. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

Speaker #2: On loan spreads, some of your peers have talked about growth coming at perhaps a little bit tighter spreads. Are you seeing any evidence of that in your markets?

Tim M. Burke, Jr.: Our spreads have been pretty consistent the last couple of quarters. Obviously, Q1's production was skewed. Remember, decidedly investment grade and floating rate, and that had a little bit of an impact. Last couple of quarters, we've been pretty steady in terms of core balanced commercial activity. Down a little bit from where it was a year ago, pretty steady over the last couple of quarters.

Speaker #4: Our spreads have been pretty consistent the last couple of quarters. Obviously, first quarter's production was skewed—remember, decidedly investment grade and floating rate. And that had a little bit of an impact.

Speaker #4: But last couple of quarters, we've been pretty steady in terms of kind of core balanced commercial activity. Down a little bit from where it was a year ago, but pretty steady over the last couple of quarters.

Speaker #2: And then, on the other side, John, obviously you've got legacy markets and newer markets. Any, I guess, notable pricing differences on deposits within those markets?

Chris McGratty: On the other side, John, obviously you've got legacy markets and newer markets. Any notable pricing differences on deposits within those markets? Maybe stack rank where Old National price is relative to some of their peers.

Speaker #2: And then maybe stack rank where Old National prices relative to some of your peers?

Speaker #4: Yeah, we're competitive. We're not at the top of the market in most of the markets that we operate in, but we are absolutely competitive in every market that we're in today.

John Moran: Yeah. We're competitive. We're not the top of the market in most of the markets that we operate in, we are absolutely competitive in every market that we're in today. We are in some of our newer markets where we don't have a back book to cannibalize, running some specials that are, I think we would describe them as a little bit steamy, where we're trying to be a pain in the neck for somebody else that has a bigger presence in some of those markets. I think Southeast for us, Nashville is probably an example of where things are a little bit hotter. Most of the rest of our markets have been stable and competitive.

Speaker #4: We are, in some of our newer markets where we don't have backbook to cannibalize, running some specials that are—you know, I think we would describe them as a little bit steamy—where we're trying to be a pain in the neck for somebody else that has a bigger presence in some of those markets.

Speaker #4: But I think, in the Southeast for us, Nashville is probably an example of where things are a little bit hotter. But most of the rest of our markets have been stable and competitive.

Chris McGratty: Jim, I don't want to leave you out. You mentioned, I think in your prepared remarks, the 65% total payout for the quarter. Anything magical about that range? Obviously, you're being consistent with the buyback, anything magic about payout ratios?

Speaker #2: And Jim, I don't want to leave you out. You mentioned, I think, in your prepared remarks, the 65% payout, total payout the quarter. Anything magical about that range?

Speaker #2: I mean, obviously, you're being consistent with the buyback, but is there anything magic about payout ratios?

Speaker #4: No, I think we're just obviously trying to balance all the tension, right? Which is, how do we continue to build tangible book value while at the same time investing in our business, investing in the organic growth that we have, and returning the leftover back to our shareholders, right?

Jim Ryan: No. I think we're just obviously trying to balance all the tension, right? Which is how do we continue to build tangible book value at the same time invest in our business, invest in the organic growth that we have, and return the leftover back to our shareholders, right. I think we kind of threaded that needle this quarter and plan to kind of thread the needle for the rest of the year. Obviously, as John said, depending on what happens with Basel, that could give us even more flexibility going forward. We do have, as you know, a very high earnings rate. We have to return capital back to our shareholders because even after all those other things that we're investing in, we'll have excess.

Speaker #4: And I think we kind of threaded that needle this quarter and plan to kind of thread the needle for the rest of the year.

Speaker #4: Obviously, as John said, depending on what happens with Basel, that could give us even more flexibility going forward. But we do have, as you know, a very high earnings rate, and so we have to return capital back to our shareholders because even after all those other things that we're investing in, we'll have excess.

Speaker #2: And that Basel III that you mentioned, Jim, I mean, is it just more of the same, greater magnitude, or is it perhaps to open up and maybe look at the dividend more closely?

Chris McGratty: That Basel III that you mentioned, Jim, is it just more of the same greater magnitude or is it perhaps you maybe look at the dividend more closely? How does Basel III really play into the thoughts?

Speaker #2: How does Basel III really play into those thoughts?

Speaker #4: Well, it does obviously give us a lot more flexibility on capital return, and I do think we'll continue to look at the dividend. But we do like the flexibility that the buyback program gives us.

Jim Ryan: Well, obviously it gives us a lot more flexibility on capital return, and I do think we'll continue to look at the dividend. We do like the flexibility that the buyback program gives us.

Speaker #2: Great. Thank you.

Chris McGratty: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question is from Timur, Braziler, from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question is from Timur Braziler from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question is from Timur Braziler from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Good morning.

Timur Braziler: Hi. Good morning. Another one on fee income. Appreciate the strong quarter and the fact that it'll be stepping down a little bit here in the back end of the year. Maybe looking out a little bit further ahead, just the trajectory. As you're thinking about fees, is this closer to high single-digit growth rate, double-digit growth rate? How are you thinking of longer term just in terms of momentum on the fee income side?

Speaker #2: Hi, good morning.

Speaker #4: Another one on fee income appreciate the strong quarter and the fact that it'll be stepping down a little bit here. In the back end of the year, maybe looking out a little bit further ahead, just the trajectory, as you're thinking about fees, is this closer to high single-digit growth rate, double-digit growth rate?

Speaker #4: How are you thinking of longer-term just in terms of momentum on the fee income side? Yeah, I think on a blended basis, it's probably a mid to high single-digit line item in terms of growth for us in aggregate.

John Moran: I think on a blended basis, it's probably a mid to high single-digit line item in terms of growth for us in aggregate. When you peel that back, though, I think there are pieces of that business that will continue to grow double-digit, right? I think we're really enthusiastic about what we see going on the wealth side of things. Again, that's an area that we've invested pretty heavily in over the last couple of years, and I think that we're starting to realize some real good momentum in that business. Then the cap markets line as we continue to build additional capability and sophistication, go up cap a little bit in terms of our C&I client base. I think there's tremendous opportunity in that line item for us as we look forward a couple of years.

Speaker #4: When you peel that back, though, I think there are pieces of that business that'll continue to grow double-digit, right? I think we would all be we're really enthusiastic about what we see going on on the wealth side of things.

Speaker #4: And again, that's an area that we've invested pretty heavily in over the last couple of years. And I think that we're starting to realize some real good momentum in that business.

Speaker #4: And then the cap markets line, as we continue to build additional capability and sophistication, go up cap a little bit in terms of our CNI client base, I think there's tremendous we look forward a couple of years.

Speaker #2: Okay. And then, as a follow-up—you called out some changes to the executive leadership structure within the quarter, including earnings and the creation of an operating group.

Timur Braziler: Okay. Then as a follow-up, you called out some changes to the executive leadership structure within this quarter's earnings and the creation of an operating group. What was some of the rationale behind these actions? I know you call out enterprise strategy alignment, some growth opportunities, other critical initiatives, was there any driving force in creating or making some of these leadership changes? What are you ultimately trying to accomplish here?

Speaker #2: I guess, what was some of the rationale behind these actions? I know you call out enterprise strategy alignment, some growth opportunities, other critical initiatives, but was there any driving force in creating or making some of these leadership changes?

Speaker #2: And I guess, what's ultimately what are you ultimately trying to accomplish here?

Speaker #4: The leadership changes we announced were more a reflection of the growth of our organization, the growth of our markets. We've had some succession we've gone through—I would say, generational succession in our commercial business.

Jim Ryan: The leadership changes we announced were more a reflection of the growth of our organization, the growth of our markets. We've had some succession. We've gone through, I would say, generational succession in our commercial business. So we put some new leaders in place and wanted to recognize their contributions and their leadership for the organization. Then the operating group was more a recognition of informally how we operate today and more closely aligned to my direct reports. Really the day-to-day organization, how it's led is really unchanged. We're just adding a couple of new folks that have assumed new positions here recently. No big changes there.

Speaker #4: And so we put some new leaders in place and wanted to recognize their contributions and their leadership for the organization. And then the operating group was more recognition of, kind of informally, how we operate today and more closely aligned to my direct reports.

Speaker #4: So really, the day-to-day organization—how it's led—is really unchanged, with just adding a couple of new folks that have assumed new positions here recently.

Speaker #4: So no big changes there.

Speaker #2: Great. Thank you.

Timur Braziler: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from David Chiaverini, with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question comes from David Chiaverini with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from David Chiaverini with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to ask about the non-interest-bearing deposit mix. How should we think about that going forward? You mentioned about decent pipelines for deposits overall.

David Chiaverini: Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to ask about the non-interest-bearing deposit mix. How should we think about that going forward? You mentioned about decent pipelines for deposits overall. Can you talk about the NIB mix?

Speaker #5: Can you talk about the NIB mix?

Speaker #4: Yeah. I think it looks certainly we would hope 23% of total deposits. It's stable. There's a little bit inner quarter sort of seasonal factors at play in Q2 if you're looking at kind of point-to-point balances.

John Moran: Yeah. I think, look, certainly we would hope 23% of total deposits, it's stable. There's a little bit inter-quarter sort of seasonal factors at play in Q2 if you're looking at point-to-point balances. Clearly we want to grow households in the community bank. We want to grow primacy in operating accounts in the commercial bank. I think if we can take care of that, we should be able to grow non-interest bearing and operating accounts at a pace that's in line with our overall deposit growth.

Speaker #4: But clearly, we want to grow households in the community bank. We want to grow primacy and operating accounts in the commercial bank. And I think if we can take care of that, we should be able to grow non-interest-bearing and operating accounts at a pace that's in line with our overall deposit growth.

Speaker #5: Thank you for that. And then, in terms of rate sensitivity, no Fed actions are assumed in the guide. If we do get a hike, can you talk about the impact that could have on Old National?

David Chiaverini: Thank you for that. Then in terms of rate sensitivity, no Fed actions are assumed in the guide. If we do get a hike, can you talk about the impact that could have on Old National?

Speaker #4: Sure. Yeah, look, we're still relatively neutral in terms of our positioning. If the forward curve played out exactly as the forward curve sits today, I think we'd get that hike at the very end of the year, kind of late October.

John Moran: Sure, yeah. Look, we're still relatively neutral in terms of our positioning. If the forward curve played out exactly as the forward curve sits today, I think we'd get that hike at the very end of the year, late October. It would be a de minimis impact to 2026, but probably a modest helper, because we'd have, presumably SOFR would start to run in front of that rate, and that would help out on the adjustable rate piece of the loan book, and we'd be able to hold back some of the funding cost increase, we believe.

Speaker #4: It would be a de minimis impact to 2026, but probably a modest helper. Because we'd have presumably so far would start to run in front of that rate.

Speaker #4: And that would help out on the adjustable rate piece of the loan book. And we'd be able to hold back some of the funding cost increase, we believe.

Speaker #5: Very helpful. Thank you.

David Chiaverini: Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Sure.

John Moran: Sure.

Speaker #1: Your next question is from Ben Gerlinger, with Citibank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question is from Ben Gerlinger with Citigroup. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question is from Ben Gerlinger with Citigroup. Your line is now open.

Ben Gerlinger: Morning.

Lynell Walton: Please go ahead.

Operator: Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hey, good morning.

Ben Gerlinger: Hey, good morning.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Ben. It's getting worried. It hadn't heard from me yet.

John Moran: Good morning, Ben.

Ben Gerlinger: I was getting worried you hadn't heard from me yet. I cover 44 companies, guys. You got to give me a break. In terms of the NIM, it's clear that it's marching higher and there's an opportunity for loan growth. It seems like the cost is pretty well managed in addition to growing them, which is good. There's an average earning asset mix opportunity, like you implied. When you think about just the longer-term margin, and it's not like a guide for 2026 or even 2027, but just because we're in the first time in a normal curve, all else equal, since, I don't know, 20 years. Do you think this is like a 365, 37 NIM-type company? How do you just think holistically when you think through the future of the NIM?

Speaker #6: It covered 44 companies, guys. You’ve got to give me a break.

Speaker #4: In terms of.

Speaker #6: In terms of the NIM, it's clear that it's marching higher, and there's an opportunity for loan growth. It seems like the pause is pretty well managed, in addition to growing them, which is good.

Speaker #6: So there's an average earning asset mix opportunity to imply. When you think about just the longer-term margin, and it's not like a guide for '26 or even '27, but just because we're in the first time in a normal curve all else equal from, I don't know, 20 years, do you think this is like a 3, 6, 5, 3, 7 NIM type company?

Speaker #6: How do you just think holistically when you think through the future of the NIM?

John Moran: It's a good question. It's sort of like the long-term structural margin of a bank. To your point, it's like the first time in a long time that we've had a pretty normal-looking curve or more normal anyway than what we've operated with for five years, 10 years, maybe, I don't know. It's been a long time. I feel like you're probably in the right zip code. When we think about it, again, we tried to give you the puts and takes. Definitely seeing more opportunities in the back half of this year than there are challenges. I think where we are plus some is probably the right place to think about a long-term structural margin for a company like Old National in a normal environment.

Speaker #4: It's a good question. And it's sort of like the long-term structural margin of a bank. To your point, it's like the first time in a long time that we've had a pretty normal-looking curve.

Speaker #4: Or more normal, anyway, than what we've operated with for five years—ten years, maybe. I don't know. It's been a long time. And I feel like you're probably in the right zip code.

Speaker #4: Right? When we think about it, again, we tried to give you the puts and takes. We're definitely seeing more opportunities in the back half of this year than there are challenges.

Speaker #4: And so, I think where we are, plus some, is probably the right place to think about a long-term structural margin for a company like Old National in a normal environment.

Speaker #6: Gotcha. And then you said your best acquisition is yourself. Totally agree. Share purchase here should be a priority as it sounds like it is.

Ben Gerlinger: Got you. Then you said your best acquisition is yourself, which I agree. Share purchase here should be a priority, and it sounds like it is. Why not get more aggressive considering your CET1 continues to go up even with the buybacks you have and Basel is going to give you a little bit more in a year and a half?

Speaker #6: Why not get more aggressive considering your CEQ1 continues to go up even with the buybacks you have and Basil is going to give you a little bit more in a year and a half?

Speaker #4: Yeah. We bring it in every February. We'll talk about it again with the board early part of next year. I think for now, we're going to stay the course.

John Moran: Yeah. We bring it in every February. We'll talk about it again with the board early part of next year. I think for now, we're going to stay the course. Look, it's a double-digit risk-free rate of return for every share that Mike and I can put away. We like that. That's not a return that's available to us anywhere else in the bank today. Ben, I would just add, it's a balance between obviously having enough organic growth, which we do, balancing that investment. Also I'm sensitive to having strong capital ratios, maintaining those strong capital ratios, because while maybe people are more comfortable with them being lower today, that's not always the case. Then obviously, we want to grow tangible book value. I feel like we're striking the right balance for today.

Speaker #4: And look, it's a double-digit risk-free rate of return for every share that Mike and I can put away. And we like that. That's not a return that's available to us anywhere else in the bank today, so.

Speaker #3: Ben, I would just add, it's a balance between obviously having enough organic growth—which we do—balancing that investment, but also, I'm sensitive to having strong capital ratios, maintaining those strong capital ratios, because while maybe people are more comfortable with them being lower today, that's not always the case.

Jim Ryan: Ben, I would just add, it's a balance between obviously having enough organic growth, which we do, balancing that investment. Also I'm sensitive to having strong capital ratios, maintaining those strong capital ratios, because while maybe people are more comfortable with them being lower today, that's not always the case. Then obviously, we want to grow tangible book value. I feel like we're striking the right balance for today. Now, if Basel does get finalized, obviously there's an opportunity to relook at that. We want to make sure we have a competitive dividend and probably have some opportunities down the road to look at that dividend a little bit closer. I hear you. I think we're striking the right balance for today. When tomorrow comes, we'll definitely take a look at it.

Speaker #3: And then, obviously, we want to grow tangible book value, so I feel like we're striking the right balance for today. Now, if Basel does get finalized, then obviously there's an opportunity to re-look at that.

John Moran: Now, if Basel does get finalized, obviously there's an opportunity to relook at that. We want to make sure we have a competitive dividend and probably have some opportunities down the road to look at that dividend a little bit closer. I hear you. I think we're striking the right balance for today. When tomorrow comes, we'll definitely take a look at it.

Speaker #3: We want to make sure we remain a competitive dividend, and we probably have some opportunities down the road to look at that dividend a little bit closer.

Speaker #3: So I hear you. But I think we're striking the right balance for today. And when tomorrow comes, we'll definitely take a look at it.

Speaker #6: Gotcha. Thanks, guys.

Ben Gerlinger: Yes. Thanks, guys.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Ben.

John Moran: Thanks, Ben.

Jim Ryan: Thanks, Ben.

Speaker #1: Your next question is from Jared Shaw, with Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question is from Jared Shaw with Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question is from Jared Shaw with Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: And thanks. Good morning. Morning. We've hit a lot of stuff this morning, but I guess just looking at the floating rate loans that you called out—what was it, like 90% of production over the last few quarters—has pricing on those loans changed as, sort of, the broader market expectations for rates have grown?

Jim Ryan: Good morning, Jared.

Jim Ryan: Thanks. Good morning. Morning. We've hit a lot of stuff this morning, but I guess just looking at the floating-rate loans that you called out, what was it, like 90% reduction over the last few quarters. Has pricing on those loans changed as sort of the broader market expectations for rates have grown?

Jared Shaw: Good morning. Morning. We've hit a lot of stuff this morning, but I guess just looking at the floating-rate loans that you called out, what was it, like 90% reduction over the last few quarters. Has pricing on those loans changed as sort of the broader market expectations for rates have grown?

John Moran: Not materially, at least not for us in where we are kind of playing. I think, again, we saw this a little bit in Q1, like bigger stuff that's closer to investment grade, there's probably some compression there. This quarter's reduction was more balanced and sort of traditional for us.

Speaker #4: Not materially, at least not for us in where we are kind of playing. I think, again, we saw this a little bit in the first quarter.

Speaker #4: Bigger stuff that's closer to investment grade, there's probably some compression there. But this quarter's production was more balanced and sort of traditional for us.

Speaker #5: Okay. And then, thanks for the color on the backbook pricing on the loans and securities. But when we look at loan yields and asset yields, sort of underpinning the NII guide, what’s your expectation on loan yields and asset yields for the rest of the year?

Jared Shaw: Okay. Thanks for the color on the back book pricing on the loans and securities. When we look at loan yields and asset yields sort of underpinning the NII guide, what's your expectations on loan yields and asset yields for the rest of the year?

Speaker #4: I think they improve on a little bit of remix. And again, I think the—I don't want to say goofiness—but the idiosyncratic nature of what happened with SOFR in the second quarter is unlikely to repeat.

John Moran: I think they improve on a little bit of remix. Again, I think, I don't want to say goofiness, but the idiosyncratic nature of what happened with SOFR in Q2 is unlikely to repeat, and in fact, could become a little bit of a tailwind in Q3 and Q4.

Speaker #4: And, in fact, could become a little bit of a tailwind in Q3 and Q4.

Speaker #5: Great. Thank you.

Jared Shaw: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #4: You got it.

John Moran: You got it.

Speaker #1: Your next question is from John Arfstrom with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lynell Walton: Your next question is from Jon Arfstrom with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question is from Jon Arfstrom with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Morning, John. John, are you there? John, can you hear us? Joel, I think we may have lost John.

Jim Ryan: Morning, Jon. Jon, you there? Jon, can you hear us? Joel, I think we may have lost Jon.

Speaker #1: Yes, it seems that way. Just one moment. John, if you're on the other end, can you just unmute your line locally?

Lynell Walton: Yes, it seems that way. Just one moment. Jon, if you're on the other end, can you just unmute your line locally?

Operator: Yes, it seems that way. Just one moment. Jon, if you're on the other end, can you just unmute your line locally?

Speaker #6: Can you hear me?

Jon Arfstrom: Can you hear me?

Speaker #1: Hi there, John. Yes.

Lynell Walton: Hi there, John. Yes, we can hear you now.

Operator: Hi there, John. Yes, we can hear you now.

Jim Ryan: There you go, John.

Speaker #3: There you go, John.

Speaker #6: Okay, all right. Sorry about that.

Jon Arfstrom: Okay. All right. Sorry about that.

Jim Ryan: No worries.

Speaker #3: No worries.

Speaker #6: Yeah, it's kind of dramatic there, right? The biggest drama I found on the call was going to be who were, quote, keepers in the pole position.

Jon Arfstrom: Yeah. It's kind of dramatic there. The biggest drama I thought on the call was going to be who replaced Peters in the pole position. I mean, my God.

Speaker #6: I mean, my God.

Speaker #3: I thought go ahead.

Jim Ryan: I thought. Go ahead.

Speaker #6: Yeah, just a couple of follow-up questions. John, maybe for you, on commercial deposit trends. The growth in the quarter—you guys flagged public funds and business checking.

Jon Arfstrom: Yeah. Just a couple questions, follow-ups. John, maybe for you on the commercial deposit trends, the growth in the quarter, you guys flagged public funds and business checking. How material was the business checking growth?

Speaker #6: How material was the business checking growth?

Speaker #4: Was it a really good quarter? And I think we see sustained momentum in both the pipelines, and Tim brings with him some increased rigor in that sector that I think is going to start to pay dividends also.

Jim Ryan: It was a really good quarter. I think we see sustained momentum in both the pipelines. Tim brings with him some increased rigor in that sector that I think is going to start to pay dividends also. So feel really good about our outlook there. Public funds, that was the other piece of the strength in the quarter. Again, as you know, that's a little bit seasonal for us. Q2, Q3 is pretty good. We expect Q3 to be even a little bit better than Q2 on that piece of the business. Seasonally softer in Q4 and Q1 there. Yeah, feel good about our ability to continue to grow deposits.

Jon Arfstrom: It was a really good quarter. I think we see sustained momentum in both the pipelines. Tim brings with him some increased rigor in that sector that I think is going to start to pay dividends also. So feel really good about our outlook there. Public funds, that was the other piece of the strength in the quarter. Again, as you know, that's a little bit seasonal for us. Q2, Q3 is pretty good. We expect Q3 to be even a little bit better than Q2 on that piece of the business. Seasonally softer in Q4 and Q1 there. Yeah, feel good about our ability to continue to grow deposits.

Speaker #4: And so it'll feel really good about our outlook there. And public funds, that was the other piece of the strength in the quarter. And again, as you know, that's a little bit seasonal for us.

Speaker #4: So, Q2, Q3 is pretty good, and we expect Q3 to be even a little bit better than Q2 on that piece of the business.

Speaker #4: And then seasonally softer in Q4 and Q1 there. But yeah, feel good about our ability to continue to grow deposits.

Speaker #3: And the dispatch where CNI strategy of really leaning into the full relationship that a CNI strategy brings. And we continue to see the production and pipelines grow, and we feel bullish about that going forward.

Tim M. Burke, Jr.: The fact we're C&I strategy of really leaning into the full relationship that a C&I strategy brings, we continue to see the production and pipelines grow, we feel bullish about that going forward.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Okay. Good. And maybe Jim or Tim, Jim, you talked about diversifying the feed businesses. What are you working on there? And do you guys have what you need for the commercial businesses particularly as maybe the average loan size trends up?

Jon Arfstrom: Yeah. Okay. Good. Maybe Jim or Tim. Jim, you talked about diversifying the fee businesses. What are you working on there? Do you guys have what you need for the commercial businesses, particularly as maybe the average loan size trends up?

Speaker #4: Obviously, we've been on a path ever since we became CEO to really spend time building out our treasury management business. And I still feel like we have a number of innings to go there.

Jim Ryan: Obviously, we've been on a path for, ever since I became CEO, to really spend time building out our treasury management business. I still feel like we have a number of innings to go there. We're working really diligently on continuing to build that. So I just see, I'm long-term bullish on our ability to continue to do that. As you know, we've grown dramatically, so our clients have changed a little bit, particularly they've gotten bigger in places like Chicago and Minneapolis, the demands are different than our historical kind of core legacy markets. That's an area we'll continue to invest in. I am a big believer in the wealth management business. So we'll continue to invest in there. I think we've got great opportunities to continue to grow there.

Speaker #4: And we're working really diligently on continuing to build that. And so I just see I'm a long-term bullish on our ability to continue to do that.

Speaker #4: And we've grown—as you know, we've grown dramatically. So, our clients have changed a little bit; in particular, they've gotten bigger in places like Chicago and Minneapolis.

Speaker #4: And the demands are different than our historical, kind of core legacy markets, so that's an area we'll continue to invest in. I am a big believer in the wealth management business.

Speaker #4: And so we'll continue to invest in there. I think we got great opportunities to continue to grow there. And then the mortgage business, I think that's a core business of ours.

Jim Ryan: The mortgage business, I think that's a core business of ours. It's a footprint business. While it can be seasonal, obviously, we're just a long-term believer that that's a good complement to our wealth management business, a good complement to our community banking business. There's nothing that we're looking at, if we just had this new fee income business, we'd do better. It doesn't mean we won't continue to augment those existing businesses and look for new opportunities to add services and products in there. Yeah, we've got to find ways to grow our fee income businesses and try to find more balance in our NII versus fees long term. It's nothing particularly sexy about it, but just getting up every day and grinding on it and getting better.

Speaker #4: It's a footprint business, and while it can be seasonal, obviously, we're just a long-term believer that that's a good complement to our wealth management business and a good complement to our community banking business.

Speaker #4: So, there's nothing that we're looking at—if we just had this new fee income business, we'd be better. That doesn't mean we won't continue to augment those existing businesses and look for new opportunities to add services and products in there.

Speaker #4: But yeah, we've got to find ways to grow our fee income businesses and try to find more balance in our NII versus fees long-term.

Speaker #4: And so it's nothing particularly sexy about it, but just getting up every day and grinding on it and getting better.

Speaker #2: And I would just add on the capital markets side, there's some opportunities as John mentioned earlier that we're looking at to develop new feed products that we think will augment our ability to continue to go up market.

Tim M. Burke, Jr.: I would just add on the capital markets side, there's some opportunities, as John mentioned earlier, that we're looking at to develop new fee products that we think will augment our ability to continue to go upmarket. As Jim said in the past, we feel very confident about the product set that we have today and being able to service all the clients and prospects that we're looking at.

Speaker #2: But as Jim said in the past, we feel very confident about the product set that we have today and our ability to service all the clients and prospects that we're looking at.

Speaker #6: Yep. Okay. All right. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

Jon Arfstrom: Yep. Okay. All right. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Speaker #3: Thanks, John.

Jim Ryan: Thanks, John.

Lynell Walton: There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Jim Ryan for closing remarks.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Jim Ryan for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Jim Ryan for closing remarks.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Joel. Really appreciate everybody's support today. The team will be available all day long for any follow-ups and questions. Thanks and have a great day.

Jim Ryan: Thanks, Joel. Really appreciate everybody's support today. The team will be available all day long for any follow-ups and questions. Thanks, have a great day.

Speaker #1: This concludes Old National's call. Once again, a replay along with the presentation slides will be available for 12 months on the investor relations page of Old National's website, oldnational.com.

Lynell Walton: This concludes Old National's call. Once again, a replay along with the presentation slides will be available for 12 months on the investor relations page of Old National's website, oldnational.com. If anyone has additional questions, please contact Lynell Walton at 812-464-1366. Thank you for your participation in today's conference call. This event has now concluded. Thank you for joining ONB Q2 earnings conference call. The line will disconnect automatically.

Operator: This concludes Old National's call. Once again, a replay along with the presentation slides will be available for 12 months on the investor relations page of Old National's website, oldnational.com. If anyone has additional questions, please contact Lynell Walton at 812-464-1366. Thank you for your participation in today's conference call. This event has now concluded. Thank you for joining ONB Q2 earnings conference call. The line will disconnect automatically.

Speaker #1: If anyone has additional questions, please contact Lynell Dirkholz at (812) 464-1366. Thank you for your participation in today's conference call.

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