Q2 2026 Copa Holdings SA Earnings Call
Speaker #1: question-and-answer session. At that time, if you have a question, you will have to press *11 on your touchtone phone. As a reminder, this call is being webcast and recorded on August 6, 2026.
Speaker #1: Now, I will turn the conference call over to Daniel Tapia, Director of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Aaliyah. And welcome, everyone, to our second quarter earnings call. Joining me today are Mr. Pedro Heilbron, Executive Chairman and CEO of Copa Holdings; Mr. Robert Carey, Executive Vice President; and Mr. Peter Donkersloot, our CFO.
Speaker #2: Pedro will begin with an overview of the core of the quarter. Robert will then discuss commercial performance and operational highlights. Peter will conclude with a review of our financial results and outlook.
Speaker #2: Immediately after, we will open the call for questions from analysts. As a reminder, Copa Holdings' financial reports have been prepared in accordance with international financial reporting standards.
Speaker #2: In today's call, we will discuss certain non-IFRS financial measures. A reconciliation of these measures to comparable IFRS measures can be found in our earnings release, which is available on our website.
Speaker #2: Our discussion today will also contain forward-looking statements. That limited to historical facts that reflect the company's current beliefs, expectations, and/or intentions regarding future events and results.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements involve risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to the firm materially and are based on assumptions subject to change. Many of these are discussed in our annual report filed with the SEC.
Speaker #2: Now, I will turn I would like to turn the call over to our chairman and CEO, Mr. Pedro Heilbron.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Daniel. Good morning, and thank you all for joining us for our second quarter earnings call. Before we begin, I would like to recognize and thank our more than 9,000 coworkers; thank you for their commitment, professionalism, and disciplined execution; our team continues to deliver strong financial results while maintaining exceptional operational reliability and outstanding service to our passengers.
Speaker #3: They are the foundation of Copa's success and have my admiration and appreciation. Our second quarter results demonstrate the resilience of our business model in a significantly higher fuel price environment and reinforce our ability to continue generating profitable growth through different market cycles.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we delivered an operating profit of 91.7 million dollars and an operating margin of 8.7 percent. This results were affected by an increase of 85 percent in the all-in fuel cost compared to Q2 25.
Speaker #3: With approximately 40 percent of our bookings sold before the fuel cost increase. In the quarter, we grew capacity 16.5 percent, measured in ASMs, while maintaining solid load factors.
Speaker #3: Our capacity additions, in 2026, after years in which aircraft delivery delays slowed our growth, allow us to further consolidate our hub of the Americas advantage especially in an environment of strong passenger demand across our network.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead, booking trends remain strong, which support our expectations for another year of high load factors and solid financial performance. As part of our continuous efforts to strengthen the hub of the Americas, we recently set in place our transition from 6 to 8 connecting banks beginning in March 2027.
Speaker #3: This decision will improve connectivity throughout our network, provide greater travel options for our passengers, increase aircraft utilization, optimize the use of airport infrastructure, and further strengthen Panama's position as the leading hub for intra-Americas travel.
Speaker #3: Combined with our structurally low unit cost, best-in-class operational reliability, strong balance sheet, and the unique advantages of our hub of the Americas, we remain confident in our ability to successfully execute our growth plans and continue delivering value to our shareholders.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call over to Robert, who will discuss the quarter's commercial and operational highlights.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Pedro. And good morning, everyone. Before I start, I would also like to thank our coworkers across the organization for their continued dedication and outstanding execution throughout the quarter.
Speaker #2: I have now been here two years, and Copa's culture is clearly one of our strengths. Let me begin by reviewing some of the quarter's key commercial and operational highlights.
Speaker #2: Operating revenues increased 25.7 percent year over year to 1.1 billion dollars. Passenger yields increased 8.7 percent compared to Q2 2025. Unit revenue, or RASM, increased 7.9 percent to 11.6 cents, while capacity, measured in ASMs, increased 16.5 percent year over year.
Speaker #2: Load factor was 86.7 percent compared to 87.3 percent in Q2 2025. Revenue performance for the quarter was partially impacted by the World Cup, which temporarily affected travel patterns during June.
Speaker #2: As a result, June load factors were 2.3 percentage points lower year over year, putting modest pressure on unit revenues. We estimate that the World Cup reduced second-quarter RASM by approximately 0.1 cents.
Speaker #2: Despite this headwind, we delivered another quarter of solid revenue performance and continue to see strong demand trends throughout our network going forward. Demonstrating this strong demand, we published our July traffic numbers this week, reporting a load factor of nearly 90 percent on a year-over-year capacity increase of 16 percent.
Speaker #2: Furthermore, this load factor, one of our highest ever, came in a higher yield environment. As you can see from our full-year guidance, we are expecting the strong load factors to continue.
Speaker #2: On the operational side, we delivered industry-leading results, during the quarter Copa Airlines delivered an on-time performance of 90.6 percent and a flight completion factor of 99.8 percent.
Speaker #2: These results position Copa Airlines among the very best airlines globally for operational reliability and represent a key differentiator of our passenger value proposition. Turning to the network, recently we announced the addition of Port Lamar, an East La Margarita, Venezuela, a popular leisure destination which will start in November.
Speaker #2: With this addition, Copa will serve 88 destinations in 32 countries throughout the Americas, further strengthening the breadth and convenience of our network and reinforcing the leadership position of our hub of the Americas.
Speaker #2: We also recently achieved an important milestone in enhancing our passenger experience with the launch of Starlink onboard internet. In July, Copa operated its first Starlink-equipped flight, becoming the first airline in Latin America to offer high-speed Starlink connectivity.
Speaker #2: We expect the rollout of Starlink Wi-Fi across our fleet to be completed in the first half of 2027. Finally, on the fleet side, we took delivery of 4 Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft during the quarter, ending the period with a fleet of 131 aircraft.
Speaker #2: For the remainder of the year, we expect to receive 1 additional 737 MAX 8. As always, we maintain significant flexibility in our fleet plan through delivery options, slide rights, lease expirations, and a substantial base of unencumbered aircraft, which allows us to adjust the pace of growth if market conditions warrant.
Speaker #2: To conclude, demand trends and booking patterns remain strong. With that, I will turn the call over to Peter, who will review our financial results and outlook in more detail.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Robert. And good morning. I'll also like to start by recognizing our team's continued dedication to delivering industry-leading results. Their commitment remains essential to our strong operational and financial performance.
Speaker #3: In the second quarter, we reported an operating profit of 91.7 million dollars. Resulting in an operating margin of 8.7 percent. Compared to 21.7 percent in the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #3: Net profit totaled 68.2 million dollars, or 1 dollar and 67 cents per share, and a net margin of 6.4 percent. Unit cost, excluding fuel or ex-fuel CASM, remained flat year over year to 5.7 cents, reflecting our continuous focus on cost discipline.
Speaker #3: Including fuel, CASM increased 26 percent to 10.6 cents, a result of significantly higher fuel prices. During the quarter, average all-in jet fuel prices increased 85 percent year over year, from 2 dollars and 32 cents to 4 dollars and 28 cents per gallon.
Speaker #3: Despite having approximately 40 percent of our second-quarter bookings already sold before the increase in fuel prices, strong demand and higher yields enable us to recover approximately 40 percent of the year-over-year increase in fuel expenses during the quarter.
Speaker #3: Our fuel recovery calculation compares the year-over-year increase in revenues attributable to higher RASM with the year-over-year increase in fuel expenses resulting from higher all-in fuel prices, both calculated using 2026 capacity levels.
Speaker #3: Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity, we ended the quarter with approximately 1.5 billion dollars in cash, short-term and long-term investments, representing 39 percent of last 12-month revenue.
Speaker #3: Our balance sheet remains among the strongest in the airline industry and continues to be a key competitive advantage. Total debt, including lease liabilities, stood at approximately 2.7 billion, at quarter-end, all of it related to aircraft financing.
Speaker #3: Our average cost of debt is currently 3.7 percent, and we ended the quarter with a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.9x. Our financial strength continues to provide substantial flexibility as we continue to execute our long-term strategy.
Speaker #3: Turning now to shareholder returns I'm pleased to announce that our board of directors ratified the company's third quarterly dividend payment of 1 dollar and 71 cents per share, the dividend will be paid on September 15 to all shareholders of record as of August 31.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead, while fuel prices remain elevated and volatile relative to prior year levels, underlining demand trends across our network continue to be strong. Based on these demand strengths and current fuel cost projections we are updating our full-year outlook and now expect an operating margin for 2026 17 to 19 percent, with a capacity growth of between 14 to 15 percent.
Speaker #3: This outlook assumes approximately a low factor of 87 percent, a RASM of 12 cents, ex-fuel CASM of 5.7 cents, and an all-in fuel price per gallon of 3 dollars and 60 cents.
Speaker #3: To summarize, demand and revenue trends remain strong across our network. We are maintaining industry-leading cost discipline; our balance sheet remains among the strongest in the industry; and our proven business model continues to position us well to navigate the current fuel environment while delivering profitable growth and long-term shareholder value.
Speaker #3: Thank you, and we'll now open the call for questions from the analysts.
Speaker #1: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.
Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Savi Sith from Raymond James.
Speaker #1: Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. I was kind of curious I think Pedro I think you mentioned or, you know, that, you know, the second quarter was 40 percent booked.
Speaker #4: Heading into prior to all the kind of the fare increases, I was curious how much of the third quarter was booked prior to the fare increases, and as you kind of look out, you know, how much of the third and the fourth quarter are in the books today?
Speaker #5: Okay, so in Q3 was pre-war, of course. We had about 20 percent, a little bit below 20 percent booked for Q3. And of course, much less for Q4, almost nothing for Q4.
Speaker #4: And today, Pedro, how much is booked?
Speaker #5: All that, Robert.
Speaker #2: Yeah, and then Savi, your question was what is the outlook right now for Q3 and or what is the booking level for Q3 and Q4, correct?
Speaker #4: That's correct.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Yeah, right now we're about 75 percent booked for Q3 and about 25 percent sold for Q4.
Speaker #4: Perfect. And if I might, just curious, I saw that it's kind of slight changes in the delivery schedule here. For 26, 27, any early thoughts on how you're thinking about deliveries in 2028 as I'm guessing some of those discussions are happening now?
Speaker #5: Yeah, we publish up to 2027. If I'm not mistaken, and we're getting 12 aircraft in 2027. And as always, we have some flexibility. We're going to let go to 700 that come up for their 20-year checks.
Speaker #5: So we won't do those 20-year checks. We'll let to 700 go. So net it will be 10 aircraft, joining Copa Holdings in 2027. We still have another 5, 700, which we can let go.
Speaker #5: We can park at any time. We can harvest the engines. So we also have that flexibility, but we are expecting a strong 2027. Of course, we're not guiding to 2027 yet.
Speaker #5: But we are very comfortable with the aircraft. We're having delivered next year, and we think we need them all. For 2028, the number, again, we haven't shared that yet.
Speaker #5: It will be higher because it's like almost the end of the road for all the Boeing delays, delivery delays, that we had in the last four years.
Speaker #5: However, we also have a number of lease expirations we have six lease expirations plus the 5, 700. So we have like 11 aircraft that we could let go easily.
Speaker #5: In 2028, depending on demand and plus we have our unencumbered aircraft, which is over 40. So we have lots of flexibility. Again, we think we're going to need most of our 2028 deliveries.
Speaker #5: We'll share that information towards the end of the year. But we have lots of flexibility.
Speaker #4: I appreciate that, Philip and Nicola. Thanks, Pedro.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dwayne Finigworth of Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
Speaker #6: Hey, thank you. So as you think about the full-year unit revenue guidance up seven-ish percent on 15 percent capacity growth, so low 20s, revenue growth, just wondering if you can give some color on the balance of the back half, which, you know, do you expect a big variation between third-quarter unit revenue growth and the fourth quarter, or is your expectation that they would look pretty similar at this point?
Speaker #5: Yeah, I'll let Robert answer that question. But I'll say that I think the number one thing that's very important is that we're seeing strong demand right now.
Speaker #5: And so that makes us very comfortable with our projections of course. That's as of today. But I'll let Robert share some of the specifics.
Speaker #2: Yeah, morning, Dwayne. At this point, we're seeing, you know, plus 10 percent on RASM and H2. I would say it's fairly consistent across Q3, Q4, you know, in terms of year-over-year variation.
Speaker #2: It's broadly similar between the two. So I think nothing really of note in either quarter that varies.
Speaker #6: Great. Thank you. That's very clear. And then just on the trajectory of non-op, net interest expense, anything to call out in that trajectory into the back half of the year?
Speaker #6: And thanks for taking the questions.
Speaker #5: Hello, Dwayne. How are you? This is Peter. I would say that it's pretty stable that net interest expense we're going to see across the year.
Speaker #5: Nothing to highlight. More than as more we receive more aircraft, we have a little bit more financing costs, but it's embedded in our fleet plan and pretty much straightforward on how to calculate it.
Speaker #6: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Guillerme Mendez of JPMorgan. Your line is now open.
Speaker #3: Yes, thank you. Good morning, all—Pedro, Peter, Robert, and Daniel. Thanks for taking my question. I have two. The first is on the capacity guidance.
Speaker #3: So the upward revision that we saw this quarter, if you can share some details on what is behind it. It's just a matter of receiving more aircraft before earlier than expected.
Speaker #3: Or anything else in terms of utilization, maybe? And the second point is on the Starlink announcement. If you don't mind sharing some additional details on what is the expected capex or costs associated with implementing the Starlink and if you intend to charge for it will be somehow a loyalty lever.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thank you, Guillerme. In terms of the increased ASM guidance, if I heard correctly, I would say a few things. One, that we were conservative or careful with our original guidance, not being 100 percent sure on the Boeing delivery dates.
Speaker #5: As the year has gone through, not only is Boeing delivering on time, but actually at least one aircraft we got ahead one aircraft we got ahead by a month, another, a few other aircraft came in a few weeks before.
Speaker #5: So we've been able to deploy those aircraft much faster during the year. Plus, we have increased utilization so we're also getting additional aircraft hours and ASM through utilization.
Speaker #5: So the combination of those factors allow us to increase our. Capacity guidance. And of course, the demand is there. We have strong demand. So we're really happy to be able to guide to higher ASM capacity.
Speaker #5: In terms of Starlink, I'll let Robert complement the answer. But the capex was done many months ago. It's already in the books and in the guidance.
Speaker #5: It's there. And I don't know if you're going to share something else, Robert.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Morning, Guillerme. On the business model, you know, first, I mean, we're excited to be the first airline in Latin America to be offering this.
Speaker #2: The business model complementary access is going to be there for business-class passengers, all of our preferred member gold, platinum, and presidential members, as well as Starlink subscribers.
Speaker #2: And then other passengers are going to pay for the service. That's the business model we set up.
Speaker #5: Yeah. And on the capex, I'll just add that it was prepaid as Pedro said. And it will just start depreciating and flowing to depreciation once the service is installed.
Speaker #5: But for the cash purposes, it's already sitting on our PP&E.
Speaker #3: Amazing. Super clear. Thank you all.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Felipe Nielsen of Citi. Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Hey, hello everyone. Thanks for taking my question. So I have one follow-up regarding the delivery schedule. And this is related to capex. Just wondering how this changes your view on capex for the year.
Speaker #4: How are you expecting CapEx to behave, considering that you're receiving aircraft earlier? And my second question is related to fuel and competitive behavior.
Speaker #4: Like just wanted to hear a little bit about how is competition behaving to the fuel drops you're guiding to lower fuel in the back half of the year.
Speaker #4: And everybody else is also guiding for that. Just wondering how is pricing and competition behaving in this environment. Thank you.
Speaker #5: So, hello Felipe, how are you? This is Peter. I'll address your first question regarding capex. And yeah, we're seeing capex right now between $700 and $750.
Speaker #5: So basically 50 million dollars less than what we guided at the beginning of the year. And this is basically most of it is because there was we're expecting that one less delivery that moved a couple of weeks from December to January.
Speaker #5: So basically, that's what's guiding that difference. And then I'll let Robert and Pedro talk about the competition part. Yeah, so I won't, of course, talk much about pricing and competition.
Speaker #5: Is this a delicate subject, but so far what we see is a lot of discipline. Triggered by the fuel prices, of course. As fuel prices come down, we'll see what happens.
Speaker #5: We are comfortable with our guidance. And I must say, I think it's important to mention that pre-war, pre the high fuel prices, average fares, at least in our region and network, were actually below average yields were below 2019.
Speaker #5: And that's without taking into consideration inflation. So we're comfortable that the yields can be sustained as oil comes down. It's not at 100 percent, but enough for a positive effect going forward.
Speaker #5: I don't know, Robert.
Speaker #2: No, I think you covered it.
Speaker #4: Great. This is very clear. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rogelio Araujo of Bank of America. Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Guys, thank you very much. I have one question on the second fuel guidance. You said the margin guidance at 8 to 12 percent. My question is, what were the main uncertainties embedded in that range?
Speaker #4: And how did those factors ultimately play out such that results landed within the guidance? But were the lower end, if you could explore what was the drivers behind the guidance and what has happened during the quarter?
Speaker #4: Thank you so much.
Speaker #5: You're talking about the RASM guidance, right?
Speaker #4: Actually, the EBIT margin guidance for the second Q.
Speaker #5: Oh, okay. EBIT. Yeah. So we ended up we had guided for an 8 to 12 range of giving all the uncertainty. Related to the war, to fuel prices, and even to how demand was going to respond to higher prices.
Speaker #5: So we gave a wider range than what we usually give. We ended up within that range on the lower, on the lower side of it.
Speaker #5: Mostly due to RASM, because our unit costs were within actually were at target, 100 percent in target. So was mostly coming from RASM. Fuel was also pretty much were in the range we said which was between 80 and 90 percent year over year.
Speaker #5: So the difference was RASM. I'll let Robert add to it. But I'll say that it was kind of very early, maybe mid-quarter when we spoke.
Speaker #5: And that's where it ended up. I mean, I don't think there's a lot of magic to it. It's just what happened. Robert, I don't know if you want to add to that.
Speaker #2: Yeah. I think you covered most of it, Pedro. I mean, I think morning, Rogelio. The only thing I would say is, you know, as we highlighted, the World Cup didn't access a bit more than expected in June.
Speaker #2: And that's the most notable factor we to call out in RASM being a bit on the lower side than we expected. And there was, you know, everything else was kind of small factors.
Speaker #2: And I think the only other thing is, you know, as Pedro highlighted, you know, we had a wide range. It was still pretty early on in how we were trying to understand everything going on with the new fuel environment.
Speaker #2: And so nothing else of note to call out.
Speaker #5: Yeah. And Rogelio, I would also mention that, of course, we are guiding to very high margins for the year, which means that we're guiding for very strong margins in the second half of the year.
Speaker #5: And especially as fuel eases. I mean, fuel is still quite high because of crack, even more so than WTI and Brent. The crack spread is very high.
Speaker #5: And we're still guiding to very strong margins for the second half of the year. And for the whole year.
Speaker #4: That's very clear. Thank you so much.
Speaker #6: Hi, operator. We're ready for our next question.
Speaker #4: Okay. Well, I think we lost the operator.
Speaker #5: Yeah. I think the next call was coming the next question was coming from Jens. Jens, can you hear us?
Speaker #1: Oh, can you hear me now?
Speaker #5: Yeah, we can hear you now. Yeah.
Speaker #1: Sorry, my microphone was on mute. Our next question comes from Michael Lindenberg of Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.
Speaker #6: Oh, hey. Hey, good morning, everyone. I guess two here. Just the step-up in the growth rate for the year, that capacity growth rate. I know, Pedro, you talked—you and Robert have both pointed to the stronger, better than, you know, the healthy demand.
Speaker #6: As we think about, you know, what's driving that, or that sort of the elements of the increased ASMs, how much of that is just an annualization of your growth from over the last 6 to 12 months as well as maybe increased utilization or stage length and should we anticipate any additional new markets to be announced beyond Poor Lamar?
Speaker #5: Okay. So let's get that let us get that information. So about 50 percent half, half of the growth is full year effect from what was implemented last year.
Speaker #5: And then maybe a small percent, 10 percent would be new destinations. And the others, the rest is new frequencies, additional additional frequencies. And yes, we expect we expect to announce at least one more destination for year end.
Speaker #5: That should come probably before the end of the month, before the end of August. I think we'll be announcing what would be our 89th destination.
Speaker #5: To be implemented in December.
Speaker #6: Okay, great. And then just my second question, regarding the hub for next year going from 6 to 8 connecting banks. Pedro, I can recall a time when I think it was either 1 to 2, or 2 to 3.
Speaker #6: So you've, you know, some huge advances here with respect to the Panama City hub. The question is, where are you, or where are you from an infrastructure perspective? You know, going from 6 to 8, will you have tapped out all of the gates?
Speaker #6: Will you have to hard stand airplanes? How should we think about just the facility and its ability to accommodate those 8 connecting banks? You know, how much more runway does that give you before you would have to, you know, maybe sink shovels into the ground and, you know, build out the concourses?
Speaker #6: Thanks. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Thank you, Mike. I'll let Robert answer.
Speaker #2: Hey, Mike. Good morning. So I think, look, we're excited to take it from 6 to 8 banks. Quite the growth growth story. Look, I think in terms of facilities, this, you know, obviously this helps us in freeing up capacity.
Speaker #2: We're not at the limit yet in the 6 bank structure, but we were starting to near the limits of it. This obviously creates more capacity for growth over the coming years and eases need for additional infrastructure.
Speaker #2: Plus, we have the internal benefits. You know, we get better utilization on the aircraft, as well as a lot more options for our customers, which is what's most exciting.
Speaker #2: You know, I think in terms of the airport infrastructure then, what it changes, you know, there's still a number of investment plans here at the airport over the coming 5 to call 5-year horizon.
Speaker #2: Which will help with gates, which will help with runway capacity, et cetera, as well as just some other projects that are ongoing here. So the combination of those two, you know, pretty similar but I think what we talked about back in the investor day give us pretty good runway going forward into the next, you know, call it 5, 10 years to keep growing comfortably.
Speaker #6: Robert, to go from 6 to 8, does that at all change your connection rates and/or does it make it less likely that you would want to take on the max 10, which I know is going to be certified soon and I know that you have the ability to, you know, exchange you know, orders for max 8s and 9s into the 10s?
Speaker #6: Does that at all calculus?
Speaker #2: No. I mean, I think connectivity, it actually gives more options and roughly the connectivity for the passenger in terms of time of connection. I think, you know, there's some that go down a little, some that go up a little.
Speaker #2: So the on hold, the average stays broadly the same. In aircraft, aircraft decisions, no. I think, you know, no change and we're evaluating the different fleet types that exist for our new order.
Speaker #5: Yeah. What Mike, what the 8 bank will do—and Robert mentioned most of it—I don't know if he mentioned utilization. It's going to improve.
Speaker #5: And then there are going to be better schedules for passengers. Also, the airport assets are going to be better utilized. So it's also great for the airport.
Speaker #5: Which is great for all. So we see it as a very, very positive development.
Speaker #6: Absolutely. Great. But Erasm Improver and a Chasm Detractor is kind of how I should think about it.
Speaker #5: Well, that's music for our ears.
Speaker #2: Exactly.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jens Spice of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. We will move to our next question from Alberto Valerio of ETS.
Speaker #1: Oh, are you here, Jen? Okay.
Speaker #6: Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I was to meet. Yeah. Hi, everybody. So I only have two basically small modeling questions. One is on the buyback program, the 200 million I think you mentioned before that you had executed half of it.
Speaker #6: I think back on the envelope, we're getting to you executing around 35 million. This quarter. So how much more or less do you have left?
Speaker #6: Is it around 65? Is it correct? And secondly, on the 2027 deliveries, I think you were expecting to get 12 deliveries. You mentioned that one will be shifting from this year to next year.
Speaker #6: So are you still are you now expecting to receive 13 aircraft? And more or less throughout the year, how will you be receiving them?
Speaker #6: Is it more front-loaded or back-loaded? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Oh, that's hard. This is Peter. On the buyback program, just to clarify, we've executed 45 million dollars year to date. And we have around 60 million dollars left.
Speaker #5: From the program, to be executed. And of course, as we always said, whenever we finish, we'll request the authorization to have an additional program.
Speaker #5: We always like to have a program open. And then on the delivery schedule, I'll tell you that we have small movements as we get closer to deliveries and deliveries are updated.
Speaker #5: We have movements, and most of the movements we clarify about a week, where deliveries are expected in December and then they move to January.
Speaker #5: It doesn't change the ASMs counts for at least this year doesn't change at all because we didn't have that plane flying this year. So it doesn't change.
Speaker #5: And then the next year we also have some deliveries moving from 27 to 28, but also was December deliveries that are moving to January 28.
Speaker #5: So again, nothing material. It's just the regular update that we get as we get closer to the delivery dates. I don't know if you want to add something.
Speaker #2: The only thing the other part, Jen, is yeah, the 12 next year are pretty evenly spaced throughout the year.
Speaker #5: Sure.
Speaker #6: Perfect. All right. All right. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Alberto Valerio of UBS. Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Morning, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions. I have one on our side. Oil price come up. Your costs come up like 85% per gallon.
Speaker #4: You could pass through a part of it and look like you keep it this pass through to the remaining of the year. If you could detail or give some explanation where this demand is coming from.
Speaker #4: If it's strong around your network, South America, North America, Central, or if there is any specific point. And the other point is about where were these goods before?
Speaker #4: Look like airlines was leaving some profitability on the table. If you can tell us how resilient this is. Thank you very much.
Speaker #5: Thank you. And that does start I'll start and then I'll let Robert complement my answer and maybe add some color. But we strength we see strength throughout our network.
Speaker #5: The reason really one region that is doing much better or that is weak compared to the rest. Of course, you always we're always going to have certain markets that are going to be on the top end.
Speaker #5: And then some that are going to be in between and maybe lower. But actually every market is very healthy. And we're getting demand from our whole network.
Speaker #5: So that's I would say a very positive development, which is not always the case. And the diversity of our network is always an asset.
Speaker #5: And I guess it's a greater asset now that everything is doing well. I don't know, Robert, you want to add to that?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Alberto. I think the only thing you know, as Pedro said, across the board, it's pretty consistent that all the markets are reacting you know, are showing positive demand signs and pretty evenly kind of the yield increases coming through.
Speaker #2: So I think that's a very positive sign as to where things stand. You know, I think Brazil and North America are slightly stronger, but it's kind of, you know, on the margin—everything is doing very well.
Speaker #5: And Albert, then we enter your other question. We're pretty much positive on how sustainable the price increases are going to be. Because something I mentioned before, that before the oil crisis, our yields, our average yields in the region were below 2019.
Speaker #5: And that's not even taken into account inflation. So as fuel comes down, even if there are some adjustments and some pricing comes down, we believe there will remain a positive impact.
Speaker #5: And you know, I should also say that we had a record quarter in the first quarter of this year. So going back to that, it's perfectly fine.
Speaker #5: But if there's and that was with the kind of lower than 2019 yields. We still had a record quarter. So if something is left which we are pretty sure there will be something left from the price increases, even as fuel comes down, it's just going to be net positive over an already strong base.
Speaker #5: So we're very positive about this.
Speaker #6: Yeah. It's very clear. Look forward to it. Thank you very much.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #1: This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Pedro Heilbron, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks.
Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, operator. And thank you all for participating in our earnings call and our Q2 earnings call. Also thank you for your continued support.
Speaker #5: As you know, you have a committed Copa team on this side, always working hard to make the results better, and with a very, very positive attitude about how this year, we think, is going to turn out.
Speaker #5: So again, thank you and have a great day.
