Q2 2026 Liberty Energy Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Welcome to the Liberty Energy Earnings Conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by zero.
Operator 2: Welcome to the Liberty Energy Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Anjali Voria, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Welcome to the Liberty Energy Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Anjali Voria, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Anjali Voria, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Nick. Good morning, and welcome to the Liberty Energy second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining us on the call are Ron Gusek, Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Stock, Chief Financial Officer.
Anjali Voria: Thank you, Nick. Good morning and welcome to the Liberty Energy Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Joining us on the call are Ron Gusek, Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Stock, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind all participants that some of our comments today may include forward-looking statements reflecting the company's views about future prospects, revenues, expenses, or profits. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based on current conditions that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that are detailed in our earnings release and other public filings. Our comments today also include non-GAAP financial and operational measures.
Anjali Voria: Thank you, Nick. Good morning and welcome to the Liberty Energy Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Joining us on the call are Ron Gusek, Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Stock, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind all participants that some of our comments today may include forward-looking statements reflecting the company's views about future prospects, revenues, expenses, or profits. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based on current conditions that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that are detailed in our earnings release and other public filings. Our comments today also include non-GAAP financial and operational measures.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, I would like to remind all participants that some of our comments today may include forward-looking statements. Reflecting the company's views about future prospects, revenues, expenses, or profits, these matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: These statements reflect the company's beliefs based on current conditions and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which are detailed in our earnings release and other public filings.
Speaker #2: Our comments today include also include non-GAAP financial and operational measures. These non-GAAP measures including EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, adjusted net income per diluted share, adjusted pre-tax return on capital employed, and cash return on capital invested are not a substitute for GAAP measures and may not be comparable to similar measures of other companies.
Anjali Voria: These non-GAAP measures, including EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, adjusted net income per diluted share, adjusted pre-tax return on capital employed, and cash return on capital invested are not a substitute for GAAP measures and may not be comparable to similar measures of other companies. A reconciliation of net income to EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, net income to adjusted net income, and adjusted net income per diluted share, and the calculation of adjusted pre-tax return on capital employed and cash return on capital invested, as discussed on this call, are available on our investor relations website. I will now turn the call over to Ron.
Anjali Voria: These non-GAAP measures, including EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, adjusted net income per diluted share, adjusted pre-tax return on capital employed, and cash return on capital invested are not a substitute for GAAP measures and may not be comparable to similar measures of other companies. A reconciliation of net income to EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, net income to adjusted net income, and adjusted net income per diluted share, and the calculation of adjusted pre-tax return on capital employed and cash return on capital invested, as discussed on this call, are available on our investor relations website. I will now turn the call over to Ron.
Speaker #2: A reconciliation of net income to EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA net income to adjusted net income and adjusted net income per diluted share and the calculation of adjusted pre-tax return on capital employed and cash return on capital invested as discussed on this call are available on our investor relations website.
Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to Ron.
Speaker #3: Good morning. The second quarter demonstrated strong operational execution, as our team continued to deliver proven quality services amidst commodity price volatility and heightened geopolitical uncertainty.
Ron Gusek: Good morning. The Q2 demonstrated strong operational execution as our team continued to deliver proven quality services amidst commodity price volatility and heightened geopolitical uncertainty. We delivered revenue of $1.2 billion and adjusted EBITDA of $151 million, leveraging the benefits of our strategic investments and AI-driven technology advancements as the industry modestly strengthened from early-year cyclical lows. The success of our digiPrime platform in the United States has translated into a notable milestone, with an upcoming fleet deployment in Canada alongside a key cross-border customer. We believe customers increasingly value partners that can deliver innovative technology, service quality, and execution, creating deeper alignment and stronger long-term customer relationships over time. The next-generation fleet deployment in Canada demonstrates our ability to scale across North America while reinforcing how continuous technology innovation creates sustainable differentiation across our business.
Ron Gusek: Good morning. The Q2 demonstrated strong operational execution as our team continued to deliver proven quality services amidst commodity price volatility and heightened geopolitical uncertainty. We delivered revenue of $1.2 billion and adjusted EBITDA of $151 million, leveraging the benefits of our strategic investments and AI-driven technology advancements as the industry modestly strengthened from early-year cyclical lows. The success of our digiPrime platform in the United States has translated into a notable milestone, with an upcoming fleet deployment in Canada alongside a key cross-border customer. We believe customers increasingly value partners that can deliver innovative technology, service quality, and execution, creating deeper alignment and stronger long-term customer relationships over time. The next-generation fleet deployment in Canada demonstrates our ability to scale across North America while reinforcing how continuous technology innovation creates sustainable differentiation across our business.
Speaker #3: We delivered revenue of $1.2 billion and adjusted EBITDA of $151 million. Leveraging the benefits of our strategic investments and AI-driven technology advancements, as the industry modestly strengthened from early-year cyclical lows.
Speaker #3: The success of our DigiPrime platform in the United States has translated into a notable milestone, with an upcoming fleet deployment in Canada alongside a key cross-border customer.
Speaker #3: We believe customers increasingly value partners that can deliver innovative technology, service quality, and execution, creating deeper alignment and stronger long-term customer relationships over time.
Speaker #3: The next generation fleet deployment in Canada demonstrates our ability to scale across North America while reinforcing how continuous technology innovation creates sustainable differentiation across our business.
Speaker #3: We also commenced commercial operations of Slurry, our proprietary last-mile sand system, redefining how sand is delivered to the well site. Across our first three deployments, the system has demonstrated meaningful benefits for customers and local communities.
Ron Gusek: We also commenced commercial operations of SLXRRY, our proprietary last-mile sand system, redefining how sand is delivered to the well site. Across our first three deployments, the system has demonstrated meaningful benefits for customers and local communities. At a current Rockies basin deployment, nearly eight miles of slurry pipe replace up to 200 truckloads of sand per day that would otherwise traverse 24 miles of county and lease roads. This project alone is expected to transport approximately 1.5 billion pounds of slurried sand while eliminating nearly 30,000 truck trips over a seven-month period. The result is a safer transport system that reduces logistics costs, improves delivery consistency, and decreases road congestion, dust, emissions from trucking, and road maintenance. We believe SLXRRY demonstrates how innovation can create value across the entire energy supply chain, from customers and operations to landowners and the communities where we work.
Ron Gusek: We also commenced commercial operations of SLXRRY, our proprietary last-mile sand system, redefining how sand is delivered to the well site. Across our first three deployments, the system has demonstrated meaningful benefits for customers and local communities. At a current Rockies basin deployment, nearly eight miles of slurry pipe replace up to 200 truckloads of sand per day that would otherwise traverse 24 miles of county and lease roads. This project alone is expected to transport approximately 1.5 billion pounds of slurried sand while eliminating nearly 30,000 truck trips over a seven-month period. The result is a safer transport system that reduces logistics costs, improves delivery consistency, and decreases road congestion, dust, emissions from trucking, and road maintenance. We believe SLXRRY demonstrates how innovation can create value across the entire energy supply chain, from customers and operations to landowners and the communities where we work.
Speaker #3: At a current Rockies Basin deployment, nearly eight miles of slurry pipe replace up to 200 truckloads of sand per day that would otherwise traverse 24 miles of county and lease roads.
Speaker #3: This project alone is expected to transport approximately 1.5 billion pounds of slurried sand, while eliminating nearly 30,000 truck trips over a seven-month period. The results is a safer transport system that reduces logistics costs, improves delivery consistency, and decreases road congestion, dust, emissions from trucking, and road maintenance.
Speaker #3: We believe Slurry demonstrates how innovation can create value across the entire energy supply chain, from customers and operations to landowners and the communities where we work.
Speaker #3: More broadly, our investments in AI and digital technologies continue to create value in ways that extend beyond their initial design objectives. Tools like FORGE, our distributed agentic system for fuel optimization, are increasingly identifying opportunities to enhance fleet design, asset utilization, and overall operational performance, while optimizing fuel consumption.
Ron Gusek: More broadly, our investments in AI and digital technologies continue to create value in ways that extend beyond their initial design objectives. Tools like Forge, our distributed agentic system for fuel optimization, are increasingly identifying opportunities to enhance fleet design, asset utilization, and overall operational performance while optimizing fuel consumption. The ability to uncover and act on these secondary insights highlights the power of combining Liberty's operational expertise with continuously learning digital systems, creating benefits that compound across our fleet over time. Turning to power, our recently announced JV with PowerBridge, a FivePoint Infrastructure portfolio company, represents an important step in expanding Liberty's participation in digital infrastructure and large load power markets. By combining PowerBridge's powered campus development platform with LPI's integrated power generation, energy management expertise, and operational capabilities, we are creating a differentiated offering for hyperscale, AI, and other large load customers.
Ron Gusek: More broadly, our investments in AI and digital technologies continue to create value in ways that extend beyond their initial design objectives. Tools like Forge, our distributed agentic system for fuel optimization, are increasingly identifying opportunities to enhance fleet design, asset utilization, and overall operational performance while optimizing fuel consumption. The ability to uncover and act on these secondary insights highlights the power of combining Liberty's operational expertise with continuously learning digital systems, creating benefits that compound across our fleet over time. Turning to power, our recently announced JV with PowerBridge, a FivePoint Infrastructure portfolio company, represents an important step in expanding Liberty's participation in digital infrastructure and large load power markets. By combining PowerBridge's powered campus development platform with LPI's integrated power generation, energy management expertise, and operational capabilities, we are creating a differentiated offering for hyperscale, AI, and other large load customers.
Speaker #3: The ability to uncover and act on these secondary insights highlights the power of combining Liberty's operational expertise with continuously learning digital systems, creating benefits that compound across our fleet over time.
Speaker #3: Turning to power, our recently announced JV with PowerBridge, a Five Point Infrastructure portfolio company, represents an important step in expanding Liberty's participation in digital infrastructure and large-load power markets.
Speaker #3: By combining PowerBridge's powered campus development platform with LPI's integrated power generation energy management expertise and operational capabilities, we are creating a differentiated offering for hyperscale AI and other large load customers.
Speaker #3: The venture is designed to create a scalable framework that aligns both organizations across the full infrastructure stack, enabling a more integrated approach to delivering powered campuses for next-generation digital infrastructure.
Ron Gusek: The venture is designed to create a scalable framework that aligns both organizations across the full infrastructure stack, enabling a more integrated approach to delivering powered campuses for next-generation digital infrastructure. PowerBridge's planned portfolio of gigawatt-scale West Texas campuses expands our opportunities to deploy Liberty's power solutions at scale. The JV's current scope is focused on PowerBridge's Alpha Digital Campus, a planned 2-gigawatt powered campus in West Texas. The initial phase of campus development is expected to include over 300 megawatts of generation capacity. With the first power anticipated in Q4 2027, and development expected to continue through H1 2028. Discussions with prospective data center tenants regarding future power offtake opportunities for this client-ready platform are already underway. We are encouraged by the strong interest and look forward to advancing these discussions toward long-term commercial power offtake agreements.
Ron Gusek: The venture is designed to create a scalable framework that aligns both organizations across the full infrastructure stack, enabling a more integrated approach to delivering powered campuses for next-generation digital infrastructure. PowerBridge's planned portfolio of gigawatt-scale West Texas campuses expands our opportunities to deploy Liberty's power solutions at scale. The JV's current scope is focused on PowerBridge's Alpha Digital Campus, a planned 2-gigawatt powered campus in West Texas. The initial phase of campus development is expected to include over 300 megawatts of generation capacity. With the first power anticipated in Q4 2027, and development expected to continue through H1 2028. Discussions with prospective data center tenants regarding future power offtake opportunities for this client-ready platform are already underway. We are encouraged by the strong interest and look forward to advancing these discussions toward long-term commercial power offtake agreements.
Speaker #3: PowerBridge’s planned portfolio of gigawatt-scale West Texas campuses expands our opportunities to deploy Liberty’s power solutions at scale. The JV’s current scope is focused on PowerBridge’s Alpha digital campus, a planned two-gigawatt powered campus in West Texas.
Speaker #3: The initial phase of campus development is expected to include over 300 megawatts of generation capacity, with the first power anticipated in the fourth quarter of 2027, and development expected to continue through the first half of 2028.
Speaker #3: Discussions with prospective data center tenants regarding future power offtake opportunities for this client-ready platform are already underway. We are encouraged by the strong interest and look forward to advancing these discussions toward long-term commercial power offtake agreements.
Speaker #3: Last week, we announced a strategic alliance with SLB, bringing together Liberty's integrated power solutions with SLB's modular infrastructure capabilities and global market presence in a seamless solution to help address the growing need for scalable power and electrical infrastructure solutions, both inside and outside the walls of the data center.
Ron Gusek: Last week, we announced a strategic alliance with SLB, bringing together Liberty's integrated power solutions with SLB's modular infrastructure capabilities and global market presence in a seamless solution to help address the growing need for scalable power and electrical infrastructure solutions, both inside and outside the walls of the data center, with a unified interface for the customer. This collaboration enhances our ability to pursue larger and more diverse opportunities while advancing our technology roadmap and supporting the rapid build-out of infrastructure required for AI and high-performance computing. The alliance builds on a longstanding relationship between our two organizations, providing a strong foundation for execution and a streamlined customer experience. The companies also plan to collaborate on future technology initiatives focused on hybrid power systems, digital energy management, advanced power architectures, and waste heat recovery to support evolving data center energy requirements.
Ron Gusek: Last week, we announced a strategic alliance with SLB, bringing together Liberty's integrated power solutions with SLB's modular infrastructure capabilities and global market presence in a seamless solution to help address the growing need for scalable power and electrical infrastructure solutions, both inside and outside the walls of the data center, with a unified interface for the customer. This collaboration enhances our ability to pursue larger and more diverse opportunities while advancing our technology roadmap and supporting the rapid build-out of infrastructure required for AI and high-performance computing. The alliance builds on a longstanding relationship between our two organizations, providing a strong foundation for execution and a streamlined customer experience. The companies also plan to collaborate on future technology initiatives focused on hybrid power systems, digital energy management, advanced power architectures, and waste heat recovery to support evolving data center energy requirements.
Speaker #3: With a unified interface for the customer, this collaboration enhances our ability to pursue larger and more diverse opportunities while advancing our technology roadmap and supporting the rapid build-out of infrastructure required for AI and high-performance computing.
Speaker #3: The alliance builds on a longstanding relationship between our two organizations, providing a strong foundation for execution and a streamlined customer experience, the company's also plan to collaborate on future technology initiatives focused on hybrid power systems, digital energy management, advanced power architectures, and waste heat recovery to support evolving data center energy requirements.
Speaker #3: Our LPI platform sets a new standard, combining power system architecture and energy market optimization. During the quarter, we secured multiple agreements to purchase power generation equipment with Bergen Engines, Wärtsilä, and other global suppliers.
Ron Gusek: Our LPI platform sets a new standard, combining power system architecture and energy market optimization. During the quarter, we secured multiple agreements to purchase power generation equipment with Bergen Engines, Wärtsilä, and other global suppliers. Our technology, architecture, and advantage proprietary control systems are designed to integrate multiple leading manufacturers, enabling us to leverage the favorable attributes unique to each engine type for the optimization of the generation stack. We also recently announced the formation of Liberty Wholesale Commodities, extending Liberty's Chorus offering through direct participation in ERCOT power markets. This capability allows us to combine on-site generation, retail electricity supply, and market optimization within a single integrated solution, dynamically optimizing between grid power and on-site generation to improve project economics while supporting load balancing on the grid based on real-time operating conditions.
Ron Gusek: Our LPI platform sets a new standard, combining power system architecture and energy market optimization. During the quarter, we secured multiple agreements to purchase power generation equipment with Bergen Engines, Wärtsilä, and other global suppliers. Our technology, architecture, and advantage proprietary control systems are designed to integrate multiple leading manufacturers, enabling us to leverage the favorable attributes unique to each engine type for the optimization of the generation stack. We also recently announced the formation of Liberty Wholesale Commodities, extending Liberty's Chorus offering through direct participation in ERCOT power markets. This capability allows us to combine on-site generation, retail electricity supply, and market optimization within a single integrated solution, dynamically optimizing between grid power and on-site generation to improve project economics while supporting load balancing on the grid based on real-time operating conditions.
Speaker #3: Our technology architecture and proprietary control systems are designed to integrate multiple leading manufacturers, enabling us to leverage the favorable attributes unique to each engine type for the optimization of the generation stack.
Speaker #3: We also recently announced the formation of Liberty Wholesale Commodities, extending Liberty's chorus offering through direct participation in ERCOT power markets. This capability allows us to combine on-site generation retail electricity supply and market optimization within a single integrated solution, dynamically optimizing between grid power and on-site generation, to improve project economics while supporting load balancing on the grid based on real-time operating conditions.
Speaker #3: We are now able to integrate on-site generation with both ERCOT and PJM market participation for large load customers, positioning us to leverage favorable grid attributes while providing grid resilience within local communities.
Ron Gusek: We are now able to integrate on-site generation with both ERCOT and PJM market participation for large load customers, positioning us to leverage favorable grid attributes while providing grid resilience within local communities. By managing the intersection of generation assets, grid supply, and market participation, we can deliver greater flexibility, enhanced economics, and a differentiated customer value proposition as power requirements continue to grow. We believe this integrated approach enables large load development to support rather than strain the electrical grid in the communities in which it operates. The opportunities in front of Liberty today are broader and more diverse than at any point in our history. Our completions business continues to benefit from years of disciplined investment in technology, execution, and customer relationships. While our power platform continues to advance through commercial engagement, strategic relationships, and the development of differentiated capabilities across the energy infrastructure value chain.
Ron Gusek: We are now able to integrate on-site generation with both ERCOT and PJM market participation for large load customers, positioning us to leverage favorable grid attributes while providing grid resilience within local communities. By managing the intersection of generation assets, grid supply, and market participation, we can deliver greater flexibility, enhanced economics, and a differentiated customer value proposition as power requirements continue to grow. We believe this integrated approach enables large load development to support rather than strain the electrical grid in the communities in which it operates. The opportunities in front of Liberty today are broader and more diverse than at any point in our history. Our completions business continues to benefit from years of disciplined investment in technology, execution, and customer relationships. While our power platform continues to advance through commercial engagement, strategic relationships, and the development of differentiated capabilities across the energy infrastructure value chain.
Speaker #3: By managing the intersection of generation assets grid supply and market participation, we can deliver greater flexibility enhanced economics and a differentiated customer value proposition as power requirements continue to grow.
Speaker #3: We believe this integrated approach enables large load development to support rather than strain the electrical grid in the communities in which it operates. The opportunities in front of Liberty today are broader and more diverse than at any point in our history.
Speaker #3: Our completions business continues to benefit from years of disciplined investment in technology, execution, and customer relationships, while our power platform continues to advance through commercial engagement, strategic relationships, and the development of differentiated capabilities across the energy infrastructure value chain.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on disciplined capital allocation, operational excellence, and investing in opportunities that strengthen our competitive position and create long-term value for our shareholders.
Ron Gusek: We remain focused on disciplined capital allocation, operational excellence, and investing in opportunities that strengthen our competitive position and create long-term value for our shareholders. The most enduring consequence of the Middle East energy disruption has been a renewed focus on energy security and supply diversification. Heightened geopolitical risk, damage to regional energy infrastructure, and continued uncertainty surrounding key export corridors have reinforced the strategic importance of North American oil and natural gas resources. This shift is increasingly evident in commercial activity, with international buyers pursuing longer-term agreements for US petroleum products and LNG, while also seeking greater direct participation in upstream supply. Planned storage expansions across Southeast Asia and Australia, together with the need to replenish depleted strategic reserves, are expected to support incremental demand for North American energy over time.
Ron Gusek: We remain focused on disciplined capital allocation, operational excellence, and investing in opportunities that strengthen our competitive position and create long-term value for our shareholders. The most enduring consequence of the Middle East energy disruption has been a renewed focus on energy security and supply diversification. Heightened geopolitical risk, damage to regional energy infrastructure, and continued uncertainty surrounding key export corridors have reinforced the strategic importance of North American oil and natural gas resources. This shift is increasingly evident in commercial activity, with international buyers pursuing longer-term agreements for US petroleum products and LNG, while also seeking greater direct participation in upstream supply. Planned storage expansions across Southeast Asia and Australia, together with the need to replenish depleted strategic reserves, are expected to support incremental demand for North American energy over time.
Speaker #3: The most enduring consequence of the Middle East energy disruption has been a renewed focus on energy security and supply diversification. Heightened geopolitical risk, damage to regional energy infrastructure, and continued uncertainty surrounding key export corridors have reinforced the strategic importance of North American oil and natural gas resources.
Speaker #3: This shift is increasingly evident in commercial activity, with international buyers pursuing longer-term agreements for U.S. petroleum products and LNG, while also seeking greater direct participation in upstream supply.
Speaker #3: Planned storage expansions across Southeast Asia and Australia, together with the need to replenish depleted strategic reserves, are expected to support incremental demand for North American energy over time.
Speaker #3: As a result, US and Canadian oil, natural gas, and refined products are becoming increasingly important to meeting global energy needs, supporting a constructive long-term outlook for North American energy.
Ron Gusek: As a result, US and Canadian oil, natural gas, and refined products are becoming increasingly important to meeting global energy needs, supporting a constructive long-term outlook for North American Energy. Global oil and gas markets experienced significant volatility during the quarter. The conflict in Iran and related energy supply disruption drove oil prices to levels not seen since 2022, before moderating as softer Chinese demand tempered some of the resulting supply uncertainty. While it remains too early to fully assess the long-term impact of recent developments, including the trajectory of Chinese demand, recent events have reinforced the complexity and interconnected nature of global energy markets. Although the acute phase of the crisis moderated following the June ceasefire and partial reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, renewed US-Iran tensions highlighted the fragility of the recovery.
Ron Gusek: As a result, US and Canadian oil, natural gas, and refined products are becoming increasingly important to meeting global energy needs, supporting a constructive long-term outlook for North American Energy. Global oil and gas markets experienced significant volatility during the quarter. The conflict in Iran and related energy supply disruption drove oil prices to levels not seen since 2022, before moderating as softer Chinese demand tempered some of the resulting supply uncertainty. While it remains too early to fully assess the long-term impact of recent developments, including the trajectory of Chinese demand, recent events have reinforced the complexity and interconnected nature of global energy markets. Although the acute phase of the crisis moderated following the June ceasefire and partial reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, renewed US-Iran tensions highlighted the fragility of the recovery.
Speaker #3: Global oil and gas markets experienced significant volatility during the quarter. The conflict in Iran and related energy supply disruptions drove oil prices to levels not seen since 2022, before moderating as softer Chinese demand tempered some of the resulting supply uncertainty.
Speaker #3: While it remains too early to fully assess the long-term impact of recent developments, including the trajectory of Chinese demand, recent events have reinforced the complexity and interconnected nature of global energy markets.
Speaker #3: Although the acute phase of the crisis moderated following the June ceasefire and partial reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, renewed US-Iran tensions highlighted the fragility of the recovery.
Speaker #3: Early signs of normalization in physical oil flows, LNG exports, and shipping logistics proved short-lived as transit through the strait disrupted supply chains once again.
Ron Gusek: Early signs of normalization in physical oil flows, LNG exports, and shipping logistics proved short-lived as transit through the strait disrupted supply chains once again. Frac markets improved modestly alongside a gradual increase in North American producer activity. Providing greater transparency into the underlying availability of frac fleets impacted by years of fleet attrition and equipment cannibalization. Improved market conditions are supporting a modest recovery in service prices from cyclical lows earlier in the year. Next-generation technologies remain in high demand as current commodity prices reinforce both the economic value of the diesel to natural gas fuel arbitrage and the benefits of AI-enhanced systems that reduce total fuel consumption. However, large US and Canadian producers remain cautious toward increasing activity levels given continued price volatility and broader macroeconomic uncertainty. Although recent developments in Canada are encouraging for the longer-term outlook.
Ron Gusek: Early signs of normalization in physical oil flows, LNG exports, and shipping logistics proved short-lived as transit through the strait disrupted supply chains once again. Frac markets improved modestly alongside a gradual increase in North American producer activity. Providing greater transparency into the underlying availability of frac fleets impacted by years of fleet attrition and equipment cannibalization. Improved market conditions are supporting a modest recovery in service prices from cyclical lows earlier in the year. Next-generation technologies remain in high demand as current commodity prices reinforce both the economic value of the diesel to natural gas fuel arbitrage and the benefits of AI-enhanced systems that reduce total fuel consumption. However, large US and Canadian producers remain cautious toward increasing activity levels given continued price volatility and broader macroeconomic uncertainty. Although recent developments in Canada are encouraging for the longer-term outlook.
Speaker #3: Tracked markets improved modestly alongside a gradual increase in North American producer activity, providing greater transparency into the underlying availability of frac fleets impacted by years of fleet attrition and equipment cannibalization.
Speaker #3: Improved market conditions are supporting a modest recovery in service prices from cyclical lows earlier in the year. Next-generation technologies remain in high demand, as current commodity prices reinforce both the economic value of the diesel-to-natural gas fuel arbitrage and the benefits of AI-enhanced systems that reduce total fuel consumption.
Speaker #3: However, large U.S. and Canadian producers remain cautious toward increasing activity levels, given continued price volatility and broader macroeconomic uncertainty. Although recent developments in Canada are encouraging for the longer-term outlook.
Speaker #3: Power demand fundamentals remain strong, driven by the continued expansion of AI data center development and broader industrial power demand. As project requirements increase in scale and complexity, customers are prioritizing infrastructure partners capable of coordinating power supply, site readiness, energy management, and long-term operations through a unified development approach.
Ron Gusek: Power demand fundamentals remain strong, driven by the continued expansion of AI data center development and broader industrial power demand. As project requirements increase in scale and complexity, customers are prioritizing infrastructure partners capable of coordinating power supply, site readiness, energy management, and long-term operations through a unified development approach. At the same time, hyperscalers continue to expand their internal technical and commercial capabilities, enabling a more comprehensive evaluation of long-term power and infrastructure strategies. This evolution is creating greater opportunities for power providers capable of delivering integrated solutions across the infrastructure value chain, while helping hyperscale customers address a diverse range of development strategies, site characteristics, power markets, and speed-to-power objectives. Liberty's DNA is rooted in solving customer challenges through innovation, technical expertise, and a culture of execution, which are attributes that align closely with the needs of today's largest energy and technology companies.
Ron Gusek: Power demand fundamentals remain strong, driven by the continued expansion of AI data center development and broader industrial power demand. As project requirements increase in scale and complexity, customers are prioritizing infrastructure partners capable of coordinating power supply, site readiness, energy management, and long-term operations through a unified development approach. At the same time, hyperscalers continue to expand their internal technical and commercial capabilities, enabling a more comprehensive evaluation of long-term power and infrastructure strategies. This evolution is creating greater opportunities for power providers capable of delivering integrated solutions across the infrastructure value chain, while helping hyperscale customers address a diverse range of development strategies, site characteristics, power markets, and speed-to-power objectives. Liberty's DNA is rooted in solving customer challenges through innovation, technical expertise, and a culture of execution, which are attributes that align closely with the needs of today's largest energy and technology companies.
Speaker #3: At the same time, hyperscalers continue to expand their internal technical and commercial capabilities, enabling a more comprehensive evaluation of long-term power and infrastructure strategies.
Speaker #3: This evolution is creating greater opportunities for power providers capable of delivering integrated solutions across the infrastructure value chain. While helping hyperscale customers address a diverse range of development strategies, site characteristics, power markets, and speed-to-power objectives.
Speaker #3: Liberty's DNA is rooted in solving customer challenges through innovation, technical expertise, and a culture of execution, which are attributes that align closely with the needs of today's largest energy and technology companies.
Speaker #3: Our customers are becoming increasingly aware that successful power solutions require dedicated partners capable of delivering integrated solutions and long-term operational support. This dynamic is familiar to Liberty, as our large oil and gas customers have long relied on trusted partners to unlock incremental value year after year.
Ron Gusek: Our customers are becoming increasingly aware that successful power solutions require dedicated partners capable of delivering integrated solutions and long-term operational support. This dynamic is familiar to Liberty, as our large oil and gas customers have long relied on trusted partners to unlock incremental value year after year. Looking ahead to Q3, we are encouraged by the momentum in Q2 while recognizing the uncertainties associated with global geopolitical developments and the potential effects on our customers and markets. We remain focused on executing against the broader opportunities emerging across the energy ecosystem. I will now turn the call over to Michael to discuss our financial results and outlook.
Ron Gusek: Our customers are becoming increasingly aware that successful power solutions require dedicated partners capable of delivering integrated solutions and long-term operational support. This dynamic is familiar to Liberty, as our large oil and gas customers have long relied on trusted partners to unlock incremental value year after year. Looking ahead to Q3, we are encouraged by the momentum in Q2 while recognizing the uncertainties associated with global geopolitical developments and the potential effects on our customers and markets. We remain focused on executing against the broader opportunities emerging across the energy ecosystem. I will now turn the call over to Michael to discuss our financial results and outlook.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead to the third quarter, we are encouraged by the momentum in the second quarter, while recognizing the uncertainties associated with global geopolitical developments and the potential effects on our customers and markets.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on executing against the broader opportunities emerging across the energy ecosystem. I will now turn the call over to Michael to discuss our financial results and outlook.
Speaker #1: Good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to share we delivered a solid second quarter, marked by outstanding execution and disciplined investment. Building on the momentum exiting the first quarter, our team safely achieved record operational performance, setting new highs for pump hours, horsepower hours, and problem times, helping customers capitalize on the more constructive oil and natural gas environment.
Michael Stock: Good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to share we delivered a solid Q2 marked by outstanding execution and disciplined investment. Building on the momentum exiting Q1, our team safely achieved record operational performance, hitting new highs for pump hours, horsepower hours, and proppant pumped, helping customers capitalize on the more constructive oil and natural gas environment. We also took deliberate steps to strengthen Liberty's future position, increasing our investment in critical long lead power generation equipment while building teams to address an expanding set of power customer opportunities. Let's turn to our earnings results. In Q2 of 2026, revenue was $1.2 billion compared to $1 billion in the prior quarter.
Michael Stock: Good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to share we delivered a solid Q2 marked by outstanding execution and disciplined investment. Building on the momentum exiting Q1, our team safely achieved record operational performance, hitting new highs for pump hours, horsepower hours, and proppant pumped, helping customers capitalize on the more constructive oil and natural gas environment. We also took deliberate steps to strengthen Liberty's future position, increasing our investment in critical long lead power generation equipment while building teams to address an expanding set of power customer opportunities. Let's turn to our earnings results. In Q2 of 2026, revenue was $1.2 billion compared to $1 billion in the prior quarter.
Speaker #1: We also took deliberate steps to strengthen Liberty's future position, increasing our investment in critical long-lead power generation equipment, while building teams to address the expanding set of power customer opportunities.
Speaker #1: Let's turn to our earnings results. In the second quarter of 2026, revenue was $1.2 billion compared to $1 billion in the prior quarter, with 16% sequential increase reflected record utilization and a modest pricing uplift along with higher product sales that represented the largest contribution as customers increasingly turned to Liberty's industrial leading ability to source, move, and deliver product at scale.
Michael Stock: The 16% sequential increase reflected record utilization and a modest pricing uplift along with higher product sales that represented the largest contribution as customers increasingly turned to Liberty's industry-leading ability to source, move, and deliver product at scale. Q2 net income of $43 million compared to $23 million in the prior quarter. Adjusted net income of $14 million compared to $10 million in the prior quarter excludes $29 million of tax-affected gains on investments, partially offset by transaction and other costs. The fully diluted net income per share in Q2 was $0.26 compared to $0.14 in the prior quarter. An adjusted net income per diluted share was $0.09 compared to $0.06 in the prior quarter. Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $151 million.
Michael Stock: The 16% sequential increase reflected record utilization and a modest pricing uplift along with higher product sales that represented the largest contribution as customers increasingly turned to Liberty's industry-leading ability to source, move, and deliver product at scale. Q2 net income of $43 million compared to $23 million in the prior quarter. Adjusted net income of $14 million compared to $10 million in the prior quarter excludes $29 million of tax-affected gains on investments, partially offset by transaction and other costs. The fully diluted net income per share in Q2 was $0.26 compared to $0.14 in the prior quarter. An adjusted net income per diluted share was $0.09 compared to $0.06 in the prior quarter. Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $151 million.
Speaker #1: Second quarter net income of $43 million compared to $23 million in the prior quarter; adjusted net income of $14 million compared to $10 million in the prior quarter. Adjusted net income excludes $29 million of tax-affected gains on investments, partially offset by transaction and other costs.
Speaker #1: The fully diluted net income per share in the second quarter was $26 cents compared to $14 cents in the prior quarter. An adjusted net income per diluted share was $9 cents compared to $6 cents in the prior quarter.
Speaker #1: Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $151 million. General and administrative expenses totaled $67 million in the second quarter, compared to $60 million in the prior quarter, and included non-cash stock-based compensation of $6 million.
Michael Stock: General and administrative expenses totaled $67 million in Q2 compared to $60 million in the prior quarter and included non-cash stock-based compensation of $6 million. Excluding stock-based compensation, G&A increased $7 million, primarily due to higher variable compensation associated with better-than-expected Q2 results and higher IT-related costs. The other income items totaled $40 million for the quarter inclusive of $43 million of gains on investments offset by interest expense approximately $3 million. Unrealized gains primarily reflected the appreciation of Liberty's investment in Fervo following its Q2 IPO. Q2 tax expense was $9 million, approximately 18% of pre-tax income, and we expect cash expense rate in the remainder of 2026 to be approximately 25% of pre-tax income and do not expect to pay material cash taxes in the year. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $559 million and net debt of $736.
Michael Stock: General and administrative expenses totaled $67 million in Q2 compared to $60 million in the prior quarter and included non-cash stock-based compensation of $6 million. Excluding stock-based compensation, G&A increased $7 million, primarily due to higher variable compensation associated with better-than-expected Q2 results and higher IT-related costs. The other income items totaled $40 million for the quarter inclusive of $43 million of gains on investments offset by interest expense approximately $3 million. Unrealized gains primarily reflected the appreciation of Liberty's investment in Fervo following its Q2 IPO. Q2 tax expense was $9 million, approximately 18% of pre-tax income, and we expect cash expense rate in the remainder of 2026 to be approximately 25% of pre-tax income and do not expect to pay material cash taxes in the year. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $559 million and net debt of $736.
Speaker #1: Excluding stock-based compensation, G&A increased $7 million, primarily due to higher variable compensation associated with better-than-expected second-quarter results, and higher IT-related costs. The other income items totaled $40 million for the quarter, inclusive of $43 million of gains on investments, offset by interest expense of approximately $3 million.
Speaker #1: Unrealized gains primarily reflected the appreciation of Liberty's investment in Turbo, following its second-quarter IPO. The second-quarter tax expense was $9 million, approximately 18% of pre-tax income, and we expect the tax expense rate in the remainder of 2026 to be approximately 25% of pre-tax income. We do not expect to pay material cash taxes in the year.
Speaker #1: We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $559 million and net debt of $736. Net debt increased by $157 million from the prior quarter, total liquidity at the end of the quarter, and including availability under the credit facility, was approximately $1 billion.
Michael Stock: Net debt increased by $157 million from the prior quarter. Total liquidity at the end of the quarter and including availability under the credit facility was approximately $1 billion. Q2 uses of cash included capital expenditures and $15 million in cash dividends. Net capital expenditures and long-term deposits were $221 million in Q2, which included investments in the power generation, digi fleets, capitalized maintenance spending, and other projects, including $71 million in power generation deposits. We had approximately $2 million of proceeds from asset sales in the quarter. Entering H2 2026, we are encouraged by the opportunities across our business. We continue to see a constructive backdrop for our completions business, supported by deep customer relationships, strong execution, and technology advancements. Same time, commercial opportunities are accelerating as customers seek reliable integrated solutions.
Michael Stock: Net debt increased by $157 million from the prior quarter. Total liquidity at the end of the quarter and including availability under the credit facility was approximately $1 billion. Q2 uses of cash included capital expenditures and $15 million in cash dividends. Net capital expenditures and long-term deposits were $221 million in Q2, which included investments in the power generation, digi fleets, capitalized maintenance spending, and other projects, including $71 million in power generation deposits. We had approximately $2 million of proceeds from asset sales in the quarter. Entering H2 2026, we are encouraged by the opportunities across our business. We continue to see a constructive backdrop for our completions business, supported by deep customer relationships, strong execution, and technology advancements. Same time, commercial opportunities are accelerating as customers seek reliable integrated solutions.
Speaker #1: Second quarter uses of cash included capital expenditures and $15 million in cash dividends. Net capital expenditures and long-term deposits were $221 million in the second quarter, which included investments in the Power Generation Fiji Fleets, capitalized maintenance spending, and other projects.
Speaker #1: Including $71 million in power generation deposits, we had approximately $2 million of proceeds from asset sales in the quarter. Entering the second half of 2026, we are encouraged by the opportunities across our business.
Speaker #1: We continue to see a constructive backdrop for our completions business, supported by deep customer relationships, strong execution, and technology advancements. Same time, commercial opportunities are accelerating as customers speak reliable integrated solutions.
Speaker #1: Given the increasing depth of our commercial pipeline, we now anticipate approximately $1.5 billion in capital expenditures in 2026, primarily reflecting an increase in deposit payments to secure long lead time power generation.
Michael Stock: Given the increasing depth of our commercial pipeline, we now anticipate approximately $1.5 billion in capital expenditures in 2026, primarily reflecting an increase in deposit payments to secure long lead time power generation. This investment reflects our conviction in the opportunities ahead and our commitment to generating attractive returns over time. I will now turn it back to the operator for Q&A, after which Ron will have some closing comments at the end of the call.
Michael Stock: Given the increasing depth of our commercial pipeline, we now anticipate approximately $1.5 billion in capital expenditures in 2026, primarily reflecting an increase in deposit payments to secure long lead time power generation. This investment reflects our conviction in the opportunities ahead and our commitment to generating attractive returns over time. I will now turn it back to the operator for Q&A, after which Ron will have some closing comments at the end of the call.
Speaker #1: This investment reflects our conviction in the opportunities ahead and our commitment to generating attractive returns over time. I will now turn it back to the operator for Q&A, after which Ron will have some closing comments at the end of the call.
Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now open up the line for your questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one, on your touch-tone phone.
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Speaker #2: At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. The first question will come from Arun Jerem with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Yeah, good morning, team. Ron, and Michael, I was wondering if you could talk about how the commercial pipeline is evolving and maybe elaborate on your commentary that power requirements in terms of increasing in scale and complexity and how you think Liberty's position given the shift in market dynamics.
Arun Jayaram: Yeah. Good morning, team. Ron and Michael, I was wondering if you could talk about how the commercial pipeline is evolving and maybe elaborate on your commentary that power requirements in terms of increasing in scale and complexity, and how you think Liberty's position, given the shift in market dynamics.
Arun Jayaram: Yeah. Good morning, team. Ron and Michael, I was wondering if you could talk about how the commercial pipeline is evolving and maybe elaborate on your commentary that power requirements in terms of increasing in scale and complexity, and how you think Liberty's position, given the shift in market dynamics.
Speaker #4: Good morning, Arun. Thanks for the question. I'll add a few comments, and then maybe Michael might jump in with a few things on top of that.
Ron Gusek: Good morning, Arun. Thanks for the question. I'll add a few comments, and then maybe Michael might jump in with a few things on top of that. I would say that we are seeing the commercial pipeline evolve a little bit just in terms of the complexity and scale of the opportunities that are in front of us. If you looked at things over the last 12 to 18 months, we've seen, I'd say, a pretty consistent migration from what were going to be a larger number of smaller projects now to a smaller number of larger opportunities. We're seeing more and more campuses that are at that gigawatt plus scale at ultimate build-out that are going to have a number of phases involved in them, where they start at maybe a few hundred megawatts and grow to several gigawatts in scale over a period of time.
Ron Gusek: Good morning, Arun. Thanks for the question. I'll add a few comments, and then maybe Michael might jump in with a few things on top of that. I would say that we are seeing the commercial pipeline evolve a little bit just in terms of the complexity and scale of the opportunities that are in front of us. If you looked at things over the last 12 to 18 months, we've seen, I'd say, a pretty consistent migration from what were going to be a larger number of smaller projects now to a smaller number of larger opportunities. We're seeing more and more campuses that are at that gigawatt plus scale at ultimate build-out that are going to have a number of phases involved in them, where they start at maybe a few hundred megawatts and grow to several gigawatts in scale over a period of time.
Speaker #4: I would say that we are seeing the commercial pipeline evolve a little bit, just in terms of the complexity and scale of the opportunities that are in front of us.
Speaker #4: If you look at things over the last 12 to 18 months, we've seen, I'd say, a pretty consistent migration from what were going to be a larger number of smaller projects, now to a smaller number of larger opportunities.
Speaker #4: We're seeing more and more campuses that are at that gigawatt-plus scale at ultimate build-out, and these are going to have a number of phases involved in them, where they start at maybe a few hundred megawatts and grow to several gigawatts in scale.
Speaker #4: Over a period of time, and in some cases with those located relatively close to one another, I think people are recognizing that there are places in the United States that are going to be easier to move ahead with this sort of construction, leveraging the local attributes that are present there.
Ron Gusek: In some cases, with those located relatively close to one another. I think people are recognizing that there are places in the US that are going to be easier to move ahead with this sort of construction that leverage the local attributes that are present there and the support of the community, and we're going to see some focus in those areas, and they're going to leverage, I think, some additional scale in that. We're certainly seeing a larger number of campuses that talk about this gigawatt scale potential. That's ultimately made our sales pipeline larger and larger and larger. We continue to share that with the board, and you've seen their confidence expressed in that through our continued addition of inbound generation capacity in the contracts we announced this year or this past quarter.
Ron Gusek: In some cases, with those located relatively close to one another. I think people are recognizing that there are places in the US that are going to be easier to move ahead with this sort of construction that leverage the local attributes that are present there and the support of the community, and we're going to see some focus in those areas, and they're going to leverage, I think, some additional scale in that. We're certainly seeing a larger number of campuses that talk about this gigawatt scale potential. That's ultimately made our sales pipeline larger and larger and larger. We continue to share that with the board, and you've seen their confidence expressed in that through our continued addition of inbound generation capacity in the contracts we announced this year or this past quarter.
Speaker #4: And the support of the community and we're going to see some focus in those areas, and they're going to leverage I think some additional scale in that.
Speaker #4: So we're certainly seeing a larger number of campuses that talk about this gigawatt-scale potential. That's ultimately made our sales pipeline larger and larger and larger.
Speaker #4: We continue to share that with the Board, and you've seen their confidence expressed in that through our continued addition of inbound generation capacity in the contracts we announced this year, or this past quarter.
Speaker #4: So lots of excitement there. And looking forward to the coming months and years in this world. Michael, do you want to add some things on top of that?
Ron Gusek: Lots of excitement there and looking forward to the coming months and years in this world. Michael, do you want to add some things on top of that?
Ron Gusek: Lots of excitement there and looking forward to the coming months and years in this world. Michael, do you want to add some things on top of that?
Speaker #1: Yeah, I think when we look at it, these larger campuses, sort of stage build-out, as we've said before, we think the vast majority of our campuses, or our power generation facilities, will eventually be integrated with the grid.
Michael Stock: Yeah. I think when we look at it, these larger campuses are sort of stage build-out. As we've said before, we think the vast majority of our campuses or our power generation facilities will eventually be integrated with the grid. They'll start behind the meter, then they will expand from there with the grid integration. Looking at that grid integration, and as you've seen, probably a relatively set of changing rules and clarifications around different areas of the grid between PJM and especially ERCOT. I think when you see a lot of the projects at ERCOT at the moment, you've seen this kind of, I would say, probably a little bit of a holding pattern over the last three or four months, and exactly sort of the location of where build-outs are going to happen and sort of the timing around the batch zero process.
Michael Stock: Yeah. I think when we look at it, these larger campuses are sort of stage build-out. As we've said before, we think the vast majority of our campuses or our power generation facilities will eventually be integrated with the grid. They'll start behind the meter, then they will expand from there with the grid integration. Looking at that grid integration, and as you've seen, probably a relatively set of changing rules and clarifications around different areas of the grid between PJM and especially ERCOT. I think when you see a lot of the projects at ERCOT at the moment, you've seen this kind of, I would say, probably a little bit of a holding pattern over the last three or four months, and exactly sort of the location of where build-outs are going to happen and sort of the timing around the batch zero process.
Speaker #1: They'll start behind the meter, then they will expand from there with a grid integration. And so looking at that grid integration and sort of as you've seen probably a rapidly set of changing rules and clarifications around different areas of the grid between PJM and especially ERCOT, I think when you see a lot of the projects at ERCOT at the moment, you've seen this kind of, I would say, probably a little bit of a holding pattern over the last three or four months and exactly sort of the location of where build-outs are going to happen.
Speaker #1: And sort of the timing around the batch zero process, sort of when those first—they've sort of batched their interconnections into groups. And sort of which projects will be in batch zero, so which projects may get an interconnection in the next three years, what that might look like, etc.
Michael Stock: They've sort of batched their interconnections into groups and sort of which projects will be in batch zero, which projects may get an interconnection in the next three years, what that might look like, et cetera. A lot of planning around that. We've also seen a lot of planning and discussion around community engagement, and the need for sort of a deep community engagement as you start down the early stages of these projects, and you're starting to see that happening across the board. Yeah, a lot of complexity around that, and then sort of defining how this generation will grow over time and what those campuses will look like. A little clarification around the load cases.
Michael Stock: They've sort of batched their interconnections into groups and sort of which projects will be in batch zero, which projects may get an interconnection in the next three years, what that might look like, et cetera. A lot of planning around that. We've also seen a lot of planning and discussion around community engagement, and the need for sort of a deep community engagement as you start down the early stages of these projects, and you're starting to see that happening across the board. Yeah, a lot of complexity around that, and then sort of defining how this generation will grow over time and what those campuses will look like. A little clarification around the load cases.
Speaker #1: So a lot of planning around that. You've also seen a lot of planning and discussion around community engagement and the need for sort of kind of a deep community engagement as you start down the early stages of these projects.
Speaker #1: And you're starting to see that happening across the board. So, yeah, a lot of complexity around that. And then sort of defining how this generation will grow over time.
Speaker #1: And what those campuses will look like—and a little clarification around the load cases—you’re moving along from how these AI training loads sort of were being modeled with early-stage white papers from the chip manufacturers to folks getting to the point where they’re standardizing the size of their build, of their data halls, to make it far more efficient to build these campuses out.
Michael Stock: You're moving along from how these AI training loads sort of were being modeled with early-stage white papers from the chip manufacturers to folks getting to the point where they're standardizing the size of their build of their data halls to make it far more efficient to build these campuses out. There's been a lot of work being done in the background in the whole industry. I think you see some of the partnerships that we've announced and some of the ones that we're talking to, like the SLB partnership. They build a lot of modular equipment. They've got, like three and a quarter million square feet under one roof in Shreveport. When you see the size of that's because massive amounts of building are going on.
Michael Stock: You're moving along from how these AI training loads sort of were being modeled with early-stage white papers from the chip manufacturers to folks getting to the point where they're standardizing the size of their build of their data halls to make it far more efficient to build these campuses out. There's been a lot of work being done in the background in the whole industry. I think you see some of the partnerships that we've announced and some of the ones that we're talking to, like the SLB partnership. They build a lot of modular equipment. They've got, like three and a quarter million square feet under one roof in Shreveport. When you see the size of that's because massive amounts of building are going on.
Speaker #1: So there's been a lot of, I would say, a lot of work being done in the background and the whole industry and I think kind of you see some of the partnerships that we've announced and some of the ones that we're talking to, like the SLB partnership, they build a lot of modular equipment.
Speaker #1: They've got like three and a quarter million square feet under one roof and three port. And when you see the size of that—and that's because massive amounts of building are going on.
Speaker #1: And I think standardizing that and standardizing the solutions is coming into focus across all areas of the value chain.
Michael Stock: I think standardizing that and standardizing the solutions is coming into focus across all areas of the value chain.
Michael Stock: I think standardizing that and standardizing the solutions is coming into focus across all areas of the value chain.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks. My follow-up is on the power bridge JV. This is in addition to the Vantage agreement you've previously signed. Can you maybe help investors talk about these development partnerships and how would you compare and contrast these towards a traditional ESA type of agreement with an end customer?
Arun Jayaram: Great. Thanks. My follow-up is on the PowerBridge JV. This is in addition to the Vantage agreement you previously signed. Can you maybe help investors talk about these development partnerships, and how would you compare and contrast these towards a traditional ESA type of agreement with an end customer?
Arun Jayaram: Great. Thanks. My follow-up is on the PowerBridge JV. This is in addition to the Vantage agreement you previously signed. Can you maybe help investors talk about these development partnerships, and how would you compare and contrast these towards a traditional ESA type of agreement with an end customer?
Speaker #4: So, I would say they're not the same thing at all. Ultimately, even with this Power Bridge JV, we will end up with an ESA with a hyperscaler.
Ron Gusek: I would say they're not the same thing at all. Ultimately, even with this PowerBridge JV, we will end up with an ESA with a hyperscaler. What the JV does for us is offer a couple of things. First of all, to the points Michael was making around a more straightforward approach for the hyperscalers, modularity and simplicity. This offers them a single point to come and sign on for a powered data campus. It allows them to, through a single entity, take care of the land and associated infrastructure that goes with that, along with the power generation capabilities. We are aligned in that message. It allows us to share together in some of the opportunities there.
Ron Gusek: I would say they're not the same thing at all. Ultimately, even with this PowerBridge JV, we will end up with an ESA with a hyperscaler. What the JV does for us is offer a couple of things. First of all, to the points Michael was making around a more straightforward approach for the hyperscalers, modularity and simplicity. This offers them a single point to come and sign on for a powered data campus. It allows them to, through a single entity, take care of the land and associated infrastructure that goes with that, along with the power generation capabilities. We are aligned in that message. It allows us to share together in some of the opportunities there.
Speaker #4: What the JV does for us is offer a couple of things. First of all, to the points Michael was making around a more straightforward approach for the hyperscalers—modularity and simplicity—this offers them a single point to come and sign on for a power data campus.
Speaker #4: It allows them to, through a single entity, take care of the land and associated infrastructure that goes with that, along with the power generation capabilities.
Speaker #4: We are aligned in share together in some of the opportunities there. So we have a joint venture platform that has us with a bit of an interest on the land side of things and our partner in power bridge with a bit of an interest in the power generation side of things.
Ron Gusek: We have a joint venture platform that has us with a bit of an interest on the land side of things, and our partner in PowerBridge with a bit of an interest in the power generation side of things. We are aligned and in lockstep as we talk with the potential hyperscale customers for this particular opportunity.
Ron Gusek: We have a joint venture platform that has us with a bit of an interest on the land side of things, and our partner in PowerBridge with a bit of an interest in the power generation side of things. We are aligned and in lockstep as we talk with the potential hyperscale customers for this particular opportunity.
Speaker #4: So, we are aligned and in lockstep as we talk with the potential hyperscale customers for this particular opportunity. It's also a platform on which we can go beyond this campus.
Ron Gusek: It's also a platform on which we can go beyond this campus. It is designed as a premise that we could scale to additional opportunities beyond the initial Alpha Digital site. Michael, do you want to add some other thoughts there?
Ron Gusek: It's also a platform on which we can go beyond this campus. It is designed as a premise that we could scale to additional opportunities beyond the initial Alpha Digital site. Michael, do you want to add some other thoughts there?
Speaker #4: It is designed as a premise that we could scale to additional opportunities beyond the initial Alpha Digital site. Michael, do you want to add some other thoughts there?
Speaker #1: Yeah, no, I think everyone you should just think about it as there is three sort of major players. Right? In this AI development data center development, right?
Michael Stock: I think, Arun, you should just think about it as there is three sort of major players in this AI development, data center development. You need to have land with power and utilities. You need a data center, like basically a building, and then you need kind of a user or offtake of that compute. There's subtleties where that value chain gets broken down into many different ways. If you think about it, our power is necessary to sort of build anything. You've got to bring your own power to build any data center.
Michael Stock: I think, Arun, you should just think about it as there is three sort of major players in this AI development, data center development. You need to have land with power and utilities. You need a data center, like basically a building, and then you need kind of a user or offtake of that compute. There's subtleties where that value chain gets broken down into many different ways. If you think about it, our power is necessary to sort of build anything. You've got to bring your own power to build any data center.
Speaker #1: You need to have land with power and utilities. Right? You need a data center like basically a building. And then you need kind of a user or off-take of that compute.
Speaker #1: There's some subtleties where that value chain gets broken down into many different ways. But if you think about it, our power is necessary to sort of build anything you're going to bring your own power to build any data center.
Speaker #1: But on the powered land side, so the first part of that chain, we work with a large number of powered land developers, but we're very close with the power bridge and we're now doing a JV with their multi-campuses in Texas where they're building fiber rings and they're making this kind of the center for development for hyperscalers.
Michael Stock: On the powered land side, the first part of that chain, we work with a large number of powered land developers, but we're very close with PowerBridge, and we're now doing a JV with their multi-campuses in Texas, where they're building fiber rings, and they're making this kind of the center for development for hyperscalers. That's the first stage. That needs to be. They're a really strong partner there. You think about building data centers. We're working with a number of data center builds that everyone you know, but Vantage is one that we've dedicated power, we've got a dedicated commercial relationship, and we're going to have dedicated power for their facilities. They're building the data center, and they're running it for the hyperscalers.
Michael Stock: On the powered land side, the first part of that chain, we work with a large number of powered land developers, but we're very close with PowerBridge, and we're now doing a JV with their multi-campuses in Texas, where they're building fiber rings, and they're making this kind of the center for development for hyperscalers. That's the first stage. That needs to be. They're a really strong partner there. You think about building data centers. We're working with a number of data center builds that everyone you know, but Vantage is one that we've dedicated power, we've got a dedicated commercial relationship, and we're going to have dedicated power for their facilities. They're building the data center, and they're running it for the hyperscalers.
Speaker #1: So that's the first stage. That needs to be. So they're a really strong partner there. You think about building data centers, we're working with a number of data center builders.
Speaker #1: Everyone you know, but Vantage is one that we've dedicated power. We're going to dedicated commercial relationship and we're going to have dedicated power for their facilities.
Speaker #1: And they're building the data center and they're running it for the hyperscalers. And then ultimately, we will contract with modular developers, where you've got hyperscalers that may build their own facility without someone like a Vantage or one of those builders of data centers.
Michael Stock: Ultimately, we will contract with modular developers, where you've got hyperscalers that may build their own facility without someone like a Vantage or one of those builders of data centers. They may just contract directly with the powered land folks and ourselves for the power, and they will run the compute on their behalf. You've got a little bit of, sort of in the middle there, where you have the guys there, the cloud, who are running compute and then selling that compute power to folks. There's some breakdowns in the value chain. As you see, we're picking great partners along that way, who we directly integrate. By having those partners, when you think about the work we do with PowerBridge, we're spending a lot of time. Our teams get very close in the design, development, distribution of power.
Michael Stock: Ultimately, we will contract with modular developers, where you've got hyperscalers that may build their own facility without someone like a Vantage or one of those builders of data centers. They may just contract directly with the powered land folks and ourselves for the power, and they will run the compute on their behalf. You've got a little bit of, sort of in the middle there, where you have the guys there, the cloud, who are running compute and then selling that compute power to folks. There's some breakdowns in the value chain. As you see, we're picking great partners along that way, who we directly integrate. By having those partners, when you think about the work we do with PowerBridge, we're spending a lot of time. Our teams get very close in the design, development, distribution of power.
Speaker #1: And they may just contract directly with the powered land folks and ourselves for the power, and they will run the compute on their behalf.
Speaker #1: And then you've got a little bit, sort of in the middle there, where you have the guys—the clouds—who are running compute and then selling that compute power to folks.
Speaker #1: So there are some breakdowns in the value chain, but as you see, we're picking great partners along the way, who we directly integrate with. By having those partners—when you think about the work we do with Power Bridge—we're spending a lot of time, our teams get very, very close in the design, development, and distribution of power.
Speaker #1: These will have large-scale power coming on behind, and so ultimately, it allows us to build, to expand our technical ability, and build our modular solutions that can have greater expansive growth possibilities.
Michael Stock: These will have large-scale power coming on behind. Ultimately, it allows us to build, to expand our technical ability and build our modular solutions that can have greater expansive growth possibilities.
Michael Stock: These will have large-scale power coming on behind. Ultimately, it allows us to build, to expand our technical ability and build our modular solutions that can have greater expansive growth possibilities.
Speaker #3: Great. Thank you.
Arun Jayaram: Great. Thank you.
Arun Jayaram: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Steven Gangaro with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Stephen Gengaro with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Stephen Gengaro with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.
Stephen Gengaro: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.
Stephen Gengaro: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker #6: Good morning, Steve.
Ron Gusek: Morning, Steve.
Ron Gusek: Morning, Steve.
Michael Stock: Morning, Steve.
Michael Stock: Morning, Steve.
Speaker #1: Good morning, Steve.
Speaker #5: Good morning. So I think, too, for me, I think first, when we think about the power gen opportunity, can you talk a little bit about the return hurdles that you're thinking about?
Stephen Gengaro: Good morning. I think two for me. I think the first, when we think about the power gen opportunity, can you talk a little bit about sort of the return hurdles that you're thinking about? Maybe how should we think about, I know you talked about 300 megawatts, I think, by the end of 2027. When we start to see kind of the impact kind of rolling through the income statement. I know it's kind of medium-term, but how should we think about that the next couple of years?
Stephen Gengaro: Good morning. I think two for me. I think the first, when we think about the power gen opportunity, can you talk a little bit about sort of the return hurdles that you're thinking about? Maybe how should we think about, I know you talked about 300 megawatts, I think, by the end of 2027. When we start to see kind of the impact kind of rolling through the income statement. I know it's kind of medium-term, but how should we think about that the next couple of years?
Speaker #5: And maybe, how should we think about—I know you talked about 300 megawatts, I think by the end of '27—when we start to see the impact kind of rolling through the income statement?
Speaker #5: I know it's kind of medium term, but how should we think about that over the next couple of years?
Speaker #1: Yeah.
Ron Gusek: Stephen, I don't think our view to a return on the invested capital has changed at all. We are still absolutely focused on a return profile that is a five to six-year cash on cash payback, 17% to 18% unlevered rate of return. I don't think we've wavered on that at all. I think we still see that as very reasonable in the market we're in today. As far as deployment, I think you've colored it right, which is to say, yes, we're going to have some early-stage generation running, kind of the first part of that 300 megawatts. By late 2027, but that will build out over the early part of 2028 as well. I would say you really don't start to feel meaningful impact on the income statement from the power generation business until 2028 proper, and then scaling from there.
Ron Gusek: Stephen, I don't think our view to a return on the invested capital has changed at all. We are still absolutely focused on a return profile that is a five to six-year cash on cash payback, 17% to 18% unlevered rate of return. I don't think we've wavered on that at all. I think we still see that as very reasonable in the market we're in today. As far as deployment, I think you've colored it right, which is to say, yes, we're going to have some early-stage generation running, kind of the first part of that 300 megawatts. By late 2027, but that will build out over the early part of 2028 as well. I would say you really don't start to feel meaningful impact on the income statement from the power generation business until 2028 proper, and then scaling from there.
Speaker #4: Even, I don't think our view of a return on the invested capital has changed at all. We are still absolutely focused on a return profile that is a 5- to 6-year cash-on-cash payback, and a 17 to 18 percent unlevered rate of return.
Speaker #4: So I don't think we've wavered on that at all. I think we still see that as very reasonable in the market we're in today.
Speaker #4: And then, as far as deployment, I think you've characterized it right, which is to say, yes, we're going to have some early-stage generation running—kind of the first part of that 300 megawatts.
Speaker #4: By late '27, but that'll build out over the early part of '28 as well. And so, I would say you really don't start to feel meaningful impact on the income statement from the power generation business until 2028 proper.
Speaker #4: And then scaling from there.
Speaker #5: Great.
Stephen Gengaro: Great.
Stephen Gengaro: Great.
Speaker #1: Yeah, I think I would just catch I would just catch that with the fact that you're going to see a buildup of G&A. I mean, as sort of as you're building a business, sort of between now and early '27, you're going to start seeing revenue and fall through in late '27.
Michael Stock: I think I would just couch that with the fact that you're going to see a buildup of G&A as you're building a business, sort of between now and early 2027. You're going to start seeing revenue and fall through late 2027, and you're going to see, by the end of 2029, the full income statement fall through of that 3 gigawatts that we've talked about.
Michael Stock: I think I would just couch that with the fact that you're going to see a buildup of G&A as you're building a business, sort of between now and early 2027. You're going to start seeing revenue and fall through late 2027, and you're going to see, by the end of 2029, the full income statement fall through of that 3 gigawatts that we've talked about.
Speaker #1: And you're going to see by the end of '29, the full income statement fall through of that 3 gigawatts that we've talked about.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. No, that's helpful. Thank you. And the other one when we think about just the domestic frack business, I mean, clearly things are tight for the higher-end equipment.
Stephen Gengaro: Okay, great. No, that's helpful. Thank you. The other one, when we think about just the domestic frac business, clearly things are tight for the higher-end equipment. We've heard pricing momentum. I know it takes time to kind of roll through the entire fleet, but what are you seeing from a magnitude of price move, and how should we just think about the puts and takes in the H2 2026?
Stephen Gengaro: Okay, great. No, that's helpful. Thank you. The other one, when we think about just the domestic frac business, clearly things are tight for the higher-end equipment. We've heard pricing momentum. I know it takes time to kind of roll through the entire fleet, but what are you seeing from a magnitude of price move, and how should we just think about the puts and takes in the H2 2026?
Speaker #5: We've heard about pricing momentum. I know it takes time to kind of roll through the entire fleet, but what are you seeing in terms of the magnitude of the price move?
Speaker #5: And what are how should we just think about the puts and takes in the second half of '26?
Speaker #4: I would say we're certainly seeing positive traction there. The scale of the move is definitely that's hard to quantify on an overall basis given that it varies a little bit case by case.
Ron Gusek: I would say we're certainly seeing positive traction there. The scale of the move is definitely. That's hard to quantify on an overall basis, given that it varies a little bit case by case. Of course, we didn't give up as much price on that next generation equipment over time. That had real durability to it. We didn't see quite the same dip into the trough as we did with maybe the more traditional diesel-fired equipment. As a result, the pricing coming back off of the or out of the trough is going to look a little bit different for each of those cases. I think as we've said, it's going to vary customer by customer. Of course, we have some customers where that's going to happen a little quicker than it is for others.
Ron Gusek: I would say we're certainly seeing positive traction there. The scale of the move is definitely. That's hard to quantify on an overall basis, given that it varies a little bit case by case. Of course, we didn't give up as much price on that next generation equipment over time. That had real durability to it. We didn't see quite the same dip into the trough as we did with maybe the more traditional diesel-fired equipment. As a result, the pricing coming back off of the or out of the trough is going to look a little bit different for each of those cases. I think as we've said, it's going to vary customer by customer. Of course, we have some customers where that's going to happen a little quicker than it is for others.
Speaker #4: Of course, we didn't give up as much price on that next generation equipment over time. That had real durability to it. And so we didn't see quite the same dip into the trough as we did with maybe the more traditional diesel fired equipment.
Speaker #4: And as a result, the pricing coming back off of, or out of, the trough is going to look a little bit different for each of those cases.
Speaker #4: And I think as we've said, it's going to vary customer by customer. Of course, we have some customers where that's going to happen a little quicker than it is for others.
Speaker #4: And so there's a little bit of a balance there. The sales team continues to have positive traction there. We're out having those conversations on a daily basis, but we are navigating a little bit of complexity.
Ron Gusek: There's a little bit of a balance there, where the sales team continues to have positive traction there. We're out having those conversations on a daily basis, but we are navigating a little bit of complexity. You saw with the announcement of the MOU, WTI come all the way back down to under $70. We appreciate that our customers are navigating a little bit of complexity in the market right now. That's adding maybe a layer of uncertainty in their future, and we're feeling that as part of those conversations. We're working closely with them. We continue to push for higher prices and expect you'll continue to feel that over the course of Q3 and maybe even into Q4. The commodity situation not quite as strong.
Ron Gusek: There's a little bit of a balance there, where the sales team continues to have positive traction there. We're out having those conversations on a daily basis, but we are navigating a little bit of complexity. You saw with the announcement of the MOU, WTI come all the way back down to under $70. We appreciate that our customers are navigating a little bit of complexity in the market right now. That's adding maybe a layer of uncertainty in their future, and we're feeling that as part of those conversations. We're working closely with them. We continue to push for higher prices and expect you'll continue to feel that over the course of Q3 and maybe even into Q4. The commodity situation not quite as strong.
Speaker #4: You saw, with the announcement of the MOU, WTI come all the way back down to under $70. And so we appreciate that our customers are navigating a little bit of complexity in the market right now.
Speaker #4: That's adding, maybe, a layer of uncertainty to their future, and we’re feeling that as part of those conversations. So we’re working closely with them.
Speaker #4: We continue to push for higher prices and expect you'll continue to feel that over the course of Q3, and maybe even into Q4. The commodity situation is not quite as strong.
Speaker #4: Well, the market's a little tighter for equipment. The market for sand and chemicals still hasn't resolved itself to any significant degree, and so we continue to see, while higher volumes are going through there, challenged margins on that side of things.
Ron Gusek: While the market's a little tighter for equipment, the market for sand and chemical still hasn't resolved itself to any significant degree. We still continue to see while higher volumes going through there, challenged margins on that side of things.
Ron Gusek: While the market's a little tighter for equipment, the market for sand and chemical still hasn't resolved itself to any significant degree. We still continue to see while higher volumes going through there, challenged margins on that side of things.
Speaker #5: Great. Yeah, thank you both for the details.
Stephen Gengaro: Great. No, thank you both for the details.
Stephen Gengaro: Great. No, thank you both for the details.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Scott Gruber with the Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Scott Gruber with the Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Scott Gruber with the Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Yes, good morning.
Scott Gruber: Yes, good morning.
Scott Gruber: Yes, good morning.
Speaker #4: Good morning, Scott.
Ron Gusek: Good morning, Scott.
Ron Gusek: Good morning, Scott.
Speaker #1: Yeah, one of the inquirers about the purchase agreements with Bergen and Ortzilla and others—what’s the total quantity of capacity that you’ve lined up from a construction slot standpoint, and over what timeframe do those construction slots spread?
Scott Gruber: Yeah, wanted to inquire about the purchase agreements with Bergen and Wärtsilä and others. What's the total quantity of capacity that you've lined up from a construction slot standpoint? Kind of over what timeframe do those construction slots spread? I know there's been a thirst to secure kind of larger capacity gas recips. Just wanted to get a sense of the size of the capacity that you secured.
Scott Gruber: Yeah, wanted to inquire about the purchase agreements with Bergen and Wärtsilä and others. What's the total quantity of capacity that you've lined up from a construction slot standpoint? Kind of over what timeframe do those construction slots spread? I know there's been a thirst to secure kind of larger capacity gas recips. Just wanted to get a sense of the size of the capacity that you secured.
Speaker #1: And I know there's been a thirst to secure kind of larger capacity gas receipts, so just wanted to get a sense of the size of the capacity that you secured.
Speaker #3: Yeah, though, if you add on what...
Michael Stock: Yeah. If you add on what we'll kind of execute in the near term, we will have secured the 3 GW that'll be part of our plan through the end of 2029. Eventually we'll have some early 2030 deliveries, late 2029, early 2030 deliveries that will support part of the potential growth into 2030.
Michael Stock: Yeah. If you add on what we'll kind of execute in the near term, we will have secured the 3 GW that'll be part of our plan through the end of 2029. Eventually we'll have some early 2030 deliveries, late 2029, early 2030 deliveries that will support part of the potential growth into 2030.
Speaker #6: We'll kind of execute in the near term. We will have secured the 3 gigawatts, which will be part of our plan through the end of '29.
Speaker #6: And then eventually, we'll have some early 2030 deliveries—late '29, early '30 deliveries—that will support part of the potential growth into 2030.
Speaker #1: Got it. And just coming back to the base business, just any color on revenue growth and incrementals into Q3? And do you have any early indication on seasonality for Q4—whether it could be lighter, heavier? Just any early indications from customers?
Scott Gruber: Got it. Just coming back to the base business, just the color on revenue growth and incrementals into Q3, do you have any early indication on seasonality for Q4, whether it could be lighter, heavier? Just any early indications from customers?
Scott Gruber: Got it. Just coming back to the base business, just the color on revenue growth and incrementals into Q3, do you have any early indication on seasonality for Q4, whether it could be lighter, heavier? Just any early indications from customers?
Ron Gusek: I would say probably too early to tell on Q4 at this point in time. We don't know what next week holds from a macro standpoint, I think that will continue to influence how our customers are looking at the remainder of the year and the activity levels that we're going to see there, particularly for the privates. As you can imagine, they have made up the lion's share of the additional activity we have seen this year. They have jumped to be a larger proportion of completions activity than we would typically see as the norm. They are a group that reacts very quickly. That can be to the positive, that can also be to the downside. Probably too early to tell on Q4. On the move into Q3, of course, we continue to be out there having conversations around price.
Ron Gusek: I would say probably too early to tell on Q4 at this point in time. We don't know what next week holds from a macro standpoint, I think that will continue to influence how our customers are looking at the remainder of the year and the activity levels that we're going to see there, particularly for the privates. As you can imagine, they have made up the lion's share of the additional activity we have seen this year. They have jumped to be a larger proportion of completions activity than we would typically see as the norm. They are a group that reacts very quickly. That can be to the positive, that can also be to the downside. Probably too early to tell on Q4. On the move into Q3, of course, we continue to be out there having conversations around price.
Speaker #4: I would say probably too early to tell on Q4 at this point in time. We don't know what next week holds from a macro standpoint.
Speaker #4: And so I think that will continue to influence how our customers are looking at the remainder of the year and the activity levels that we're going to see there, particularly for the privates.
Speaker #4: As you can imagine, they have made up the lion's share of the additional activity we have seen this year. They have jumped to be a larger proportion of completions activity than we would typically see as the norm.
Speaker #4: And they are a group that reacts very, very quickly. That can be to the positive; that can also be to the downside.
Speaker #4: So, probably too early to tell on Q4. On the move into Q3, of course, we continue to be out there having conversations around price.
Speaker #4: But as I said, we are navigating a bit of a volatile environment. There are going to be some puts and takes there for sure.
Ron Gusek: As I said, we are navigating a bit of a volatile environment. There are going to be some puts and takes there for sure. It looks like the calendar continues to be quite strong. It looks like utilization is going to be very good through this quarter, I hope that will continue to be supportive of a positive pricing environment. I didn't anticipate $68 WTI posted in MOU either. I'm reluctant to be too firm or positive on exactly what the quarter's going to hold, given some puts and takes that are going to be at play in the market.
Ron Gusek: As I said, we are navigating a bit of a volatile environment. There are going to be some puts and takes there for sure. It looks like the calendar continues to be quite strong. It looks like utilization is going to be very good through this quarter, I hope that will continue to be supportive of a positive pricing environment. I didn't anticipate $68 WTI posted in MOU either. I'm reluctant to be too firm or positive on exactly what the quarter's going to hold, given some puts and takes that are going to be at play in the market.
Speaker #4: It looks like the calendar continues to be quite strong. It looks like utilization is going to be very, very good through this quarter, and I hope that will continue to be supportive of a positive pricing environment.
Speaker #4: But I didn't anticipate $68 WTI post-MOU either. So I'm reluctant to be too firm or positive on exactly what the quarter is going to hold, given some puts and takes that are going to be at play in the market.
Scott Gruber: Is there still some openness in the calendar for Q3 that drives the uncertainty?
Scott Gruber: Is there still some openness in the calendar for Q3 that drives the uncertainty?
Speaker #1: Is there still some openness in the calendar for Q3? That drives the uncertainty?
Ron Gusek: I think there are operators that continue to evaluate their decisions there. I would say our utilization looks quite strong at this point in time. We have very modest white space in the calendar. We could maybe accommodate a tiny little bit of additional work, but at this point in time, from a utilization standpoint, Q3 looks good.
Ron Gusek: I think there are operators that continue to evaluate their decisions there. I would say our utilization looks quite strong at this point in time. We have very modest white space in the calendar. We could maybe accommodate a tiny little bit of additional work, but at this point in time, from a utilization standpoint, Q3 looks good.
Speaker #4: I think there are operators that continue to evaluate their decisions there. I would say our utilization looks quite strong at this point in time.
Speaker #4: We have very, very modest white space in the calendar. We could maybe accommodate a tiny little bit of additional work, but at this point in time, from a utilization standpoint, Q3 looks good.
Speaker #1: Okay. Okay. Appreciate the caller. Thank you.
Scott Gruber: Okay. Appreciate the color. Thank you.
Scott Gruber: Okay. Appreciate the color. Thank you.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Josh Silverstein with UBS. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Josh Silverstein with UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Josh Silverstein with UBS. Please go ahead.
Josh Silverstein: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, guys. In regards to the power generation capacity additions with the recent Bergen Engines signing, do you guys now have line of sight to the 3 gigawatt target for 2029? Just based on how you schedule the capacity coming into you guys, how do you see CapEx trending over the next few years relative to the $1.5 billion you are now forecasting for this year?
Josh Silverstein: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, guys. In regards to the power generation capacity additions with the recent Bergen Engines signing, do you guys now have line of sight to the 3 gigawatt target for 2029? Just based on how you schedule the capacity coming into you guys, how do you see CapEx trending over the next few years relative to the $1.5 billion you are now forecasting for this year?
Speaker #6: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, guys. Just in regards to the power generation capacity additions—with the recent Bergen and Ortzilla signings—you guys now have line of sight to the 3-gigawatt target for 2029.
Speaker #6: And then just based on how you've scheduled the capacity coming into you guys, how do you see CapEx trending over the next few years relative to the 1.5 billion you're now forecasting for this year?
Michael Stock: I can take that one. Yeah. As you see, the $1.5, if you think about 3 gigawatts, right? That is going to be somewhere between $5 and 6 billion in CapEx to build that. You think about that. We are probably, through this year, will have spent about a quarter of what will be needed to generate the earnings from that 3 gigawatts. That is about it. You will see probably Massimino, 40% of it in the last year before operations, everything will spread between now and then.
Michael Stock: I can take that one. Yeah. As you see, the $1.5, if you think about 3 gigawatts, right? That is going to be somewhere between $5 and 6 billion in CapEx to build that. You think about that. We are probably, through this year, will have spent about a quarter of what will be needed to generate the earnings from that 3 gigawatts. That is about it. You will see probably Massimino, 40% of it in the last year before operations, everything will spread between now and then.
Speaker #6: I can take that one. Yeah. So as you see the 1.5, we're probably if you think about 3 gigawatts, right, that's going to be somewhere between 5 and 6 million of CapEx.
Speaker #6: To build that. So, if you think about that, probably through this year, we'll just spend about a quarter of what will be needed to generate that.
Speaker #6: The earnings from that 3 gigawatt—so that's about it. You'll see probably, Massimino, 40% to 50%—40% of it in the last year before operations, and then everything will spread between now and then.
Ron Gusek: As far as line of sight to the supply chain, we know where all of that power is coming from. We have line of sight to that inbound 3 gigawatts, and even beyond that, we have line of sight to our growth headed out into late 2029 and early 2030. Very comfortable with where all that is coming from.
Ron Gusek: As far as line of sight to the supply chain, we know where all of that power is coming from. We have line of sight to that inbound 3 gigawatts, and even beyond that, we have line of sight to our growth headed out into late 2029 and early 2030. Very comfortable with where all that is coming from.
Speaker #4: And as far as line of sight to the supply chain, we know where all of that power is coming from. We have line of sight to that inbound 3 gigawatts and even beyond that.
Speaker #4: We have our—we have line of sight to our growth headed out into late '29 and early 2030, so very, very comfortable with where all that's coming from.
Josh Silverstein: Got it. In addition to the new PowerBridge JV as well, I believe you guys are also working towards something in Wyoming as well. I think you have a permit filed there. Can you just talk a little bit more about that project and maybe some of the timelines or what you are thinking about doing there in the region?
Josh Silverstein: Got it. In addition to the new PowerBridge JV as well, I believe you guys are also working towards something in Wyoming as well. I think you have a permit filed there. Can you just talk a little bit more about that project and maybe some of the timelines or what you are thinking about doing there in the region?
Speaker #6: Got it. And then in addition to the new power bridge, JV as well, I believe you guys are also working towards something in Wyoming as well.
Speaker #6: I think you have a permit filed there. Can you just talk a little bit more about that project, and maybe some of the timelines, or what you're thinking about doing there in the region?
Michael Stock: No, I mean, I think we don't.
Michael Stock: No, I mean, I think we don't.
Ron Gusek: Josh, we don't. Oh, sorry, go ahead, Michael.
Ron Gusek: Josh, we don't. Oh, sorry, go ahead, Michael.
Speaker #1: No, I mean, I think—I'm sorry. Yeah. I was going to say, we're not going to talk specifically about those projects, right? As you've seen, the permits are filed.
Michael Stock: Oh, sorry. Yeah. I was going to say, we're not going to talk specifically about those projects, right? As you've seen, the permits are filed. Community engagement is underway. This is a process that is very collaborative, with our data center builder up there and very collaborative with the community. These things will evolve over time. Ron.
Michael Stock: Oh, sorry. Yeah. I was going to say, we're not going to talk specifically about those projects, right? As you've seen, the permits are filed. Community engagement is underway. This is a process that is very collaborative, with our data center builder up there and very collaborative with the community. These things will evolve over time. Ron.
Speaker #1: Community engagement is underway. This is a process that is very collaborative—with our data center builder up there—and very collaborative with the community.
Speaker #1: And these things will evolve over time.
Ron Gusek: I think you covered it well, Michael. Thank you.
Ron Gusek: I think you covered it well, Michael. Thank you.
Speaker #6: I think you covered it well, Michael. Thank you. All right, thanks, guys.
Josh Silverstein: All right. Thanks, guys.
Josh Silverstein: All right. Thanks, guys.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Marc Bianchi with Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Marc Bianchi with Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Mark Bianchi with Cowan. Please go ahead.
Marc Bianchi: Hey, thank you. I wanted to ask about, first, the PowerBridge and this Alpha campus that they have. Can you say how much of that has been leased at this point? Then, related to that, when will you get to a joint venture finalization with them and sort of firm offtake?
Marc Bianchi: Hey, thank you. I wanted to ask about, first, the PowerBridge and this Alpha campus that they have. Can you say how much of that has been leased at this point? Then, related to that, when will you get to a joint venture finalization with them and sort of firm offtake?
Speaker #5: Hey, thank you. I wanted to ask about first the power bridge and this alpha campus that they have. Can you say how much of that has been leased at this point?
Speaker #5: And then related to that, when will you get to a joint and sort of firm off-take?
Michael Stock: Yeah. Discussions with clients are underway, as we've said in the release. The JV finalization will happen over the next little while, the near term, as we walk through that. We will announce customer leases when they're signed.
Michael Stock: Yeah. Discussions with clients are underway, as we've said in the release. The JV finalization will happen over the next little while, the near term, as we walk through that. We will announce customer leases when they're signed.
Speaker #1: Yeah. So, discussions with clients are underway, as we've said in the release. The JV finalization will happen over the next little while, the near term, as we walk through that.
Speaker #1: And we will announce customer leases when they're signed.
Marc Bianchi: Got it. Okay. At this point, the site doesn't have any leases booked yet?
Marc Bianchi: Got it. Okay. At this point, the site doesn't have any leases booked yet?
Speaker #5: Got it. Okay. So at this point, the site doesn't have any leases booked yet.
Michael Stock: No. As we said in the press release, negotiations are underway. Discussions and negotiations are underway.
Michael Stock: No. As we said in the press release, negotiations are underway. Discussions and negotiations are underway.
Speaker #1: No, no. As we said in the press release, negotiations are underway. Discussions and negotiations are underway.
Marc Bianchi: Okay. On the SLB agreement, can you maybe talk a little bit more about the value proposition to the customer? What is it that you're able to do going in with SLB on these projects that the customer wouldn't be able to get if they procured things à la carte or separately?
Marc Bianchi: Okay. On the SLB agreement, can you maybe talk a little bit more about the value proposition to the customer? What is it that you're able to do going in with SLB on these projects that the customer wouldn't be able to get if they procured things à la carte or separately?
Speaker #5: Okay. Okay. And then on the SLB agreement, can you maybe talk a little bit more about the value proposition to the customer? What is it that you're able to do by going in with SLB on these projects that the customer wouldn't be able to get if they procured things à la carte or separately?
Ron Gusek: I think you're fair in saying that they could go out and procure these things à la carte. What we are finding, and I think this is really a function of the growing complexity that they are experiencing around building the campuses at this pace and scale that they would like to, is that the simpler the approach for them, the happier they are. A unified customer interface that checks a number of boxes versus having to go to a whole series of suppliers makes their life a lot simpler, and they can focus on the things that they need to focus on at that point in time, and we can take care of the other stuff.
Ron Gusek: I think you're fair in saying that they could go out and procure these things à la carte. What we are finding, and I think this is really a function of the growing complexity that they are experiencing around building the campuses at this pace and scale that they would like to, is that the simpler the approach for them, the happier they are. A unified customer interface that checks a number of boxes versus having to go to a whole series of suppliers makes their life a lot simpler, and they can focus on the things that they need to focus on at that point in time, and we can take care of the other stuff.
Speaker #4: I think you're fair in saying that they could go out and procure these things à la carte. What we are finding—and I think this is really a function of the growing complexity they are experiencing around building the campuses at the pace and scale they would like to—is that the simpler the approach for them, the happier they are.
Speaker #4: A unified customer interface that checks a number of boxes, versus having to go to a whole series of suppliers, makes their lives a lot simpler.
Speaker #4: They can focus on the things they need to focus on at that point in time, and we can take care of the other stuff.
Ron Gusek: It is our opinion that this unified approach, that the ability to take care of some of the pieces of the puzzle, both outside the walls of the data center and also inside the walls of the data center, is something that's going to be viewed quite positively by the hyperscalers, by the end-use customers there, given that it's going to make their jobs easier. I think if you look at how this has evolved over the last 18 months, I think there's been a recognition that, A, okay, the grid's not going to be there. We're going to have to build these power generation facilities ourselves. That's added maybe an unanticipated layer of complexity to their construction exercise, to the path from getting to a desire for compute to ultimately having that compute running.
Ron Gusek: It is our opinion that this unified approach, that the ability to take care of some of the pieces of the puzzle, both outside the walls of the data center and also inside the walls of the data center, is something that's going to be viewed quite positively by the hyperscalers, by the end-use customers there, given that it's going to make their jobs easier. I think if you look at how this has evolved over the last 18 months, I think there's been a recognition that, A, okay, the grid's not going to be there. We're going to have to build these power generation facilities ourselves. That's added maybe an unanticipated layer of complexity to their construction exercise, to the path from getting to a desire for compute to ultimately having that compute running.
Speaker #4: So, it is our opinion that this unified approach—the ability to take care of some of the pieces of the puzzle both outside the walls of the data center and also inside the walls of the data center—is something that's going to be viewed quite positively by the hyperscalers, by the end-use customers there, given that it's going to make their jobs easier.
Speaker #4: I think if you look at how this has evolved over the last 18 months, there's been a recognition that, A, okay, the grid's not going to be there.
Speaker #4: We're going to have to build these power generation facilities ourselves. That's added, maybe, an unanticipated layer of complexity to their construction exercise, to the path from getting to a desire for compute to ultimately having that compute running.
Ron Gusek: The easier we can make that path for them, the happier they're going to be and the better a partner we can be. We really like it from that standpoint. It. Yeah, and I think it's something that we can take not only to customers here in the United States and Canada, but also internationally. We're starting to hear a lot about data center opportunities in the Middle East, in Asia, in Australia. There was a big announcement just a couple of days ago, about opportunities in the Belew, and I think we have a great opportunity with the global reach of the organizations to be an active participant in those.
Ron Gusek: The easier we can make that path for them, the happier they're going to be and the better a partner we can be. We really like it from that standpoint. It. Yeah, and I think it's something that we can take not only to customers here in the United States and Canada, but also internationally. We're starting to hear a lot about data center opportunities in the Middle East, in Asia, in Australia. There was a big announcement just a couple of days ago, about opportunities in the Belew, and I think we have a great opportunity with the global reach of the organizations to be an active participant in those.
Speaker #4: And the easier we can make that path for them, the happier they're going to be, and the better a partner we can be. So we really like it from that standpoint.
Speaker #4: I think it's something that we can take not only to customers here in the United States and Canada, but also internationally. We're starting to hear a lot about data center opportunities in the Middle East, in Asia, and in Australia.
Speaker #4: There was a big announcement just a couple of days ago about opportunities in the Beetaloo, and I think we have a great opportunity, with the global reach of the organization, to be an active participant in those.
Marc Bianchi: Yep. Great. Makes sense. Thanks, Ron.
Marc Bianchi: Yep. Great. Makes sense. Thanks, Ron.
Speaker #5: Yep, great. Makes sense. Thanks, Ron.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Joe Laetsch with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Joe Laetsch with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Joe Latesh with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Joe Laetsch: Great. Thank you, and good morning team. I wanted to follow up on the PowerBridge JV. I know the initial phase is over 300 megawatts, but could you just talk about the signpost we should watch for around additional phases and how we should think about incremental power being added? Then as part of that, is the 2 gigawatt opportunity at that West Texas data center, is that exclusive to Liberty at this time?
Joe Laetsch: Great. Thank you, and good morning team. I wanted to follow up on the PowerBridge JV. I know the initial phase is over 300 megawatts, but could you just talk about the signpost we should watch for around additional phases and how we should think about incremental power being added? Then as part of that, is the 2 gigawatt opportunity at that West Texas data center, is that exclusive to Liberty at this time?
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you. And good morning, team. So I wanted to follow up on the power bridge JV. So I know the initial phase is over 300 megawatts, but could you just talk about the signposts we should watch for around additional phases and how we should think about incremental power being added?
Speaker #5: And then, as part of that, is the 2-gigawatt opportunity at that West Texas data center exclusive to Liberty at this time?
Michael Stock: Yeah. You're right. This will be announced in phases. This is kind of like the first phase that will get built out, as these campuses expand. There's 2 sides to that campus, east, north, and south. That will be over time. They've got multiple campuses that we will end up, we may well jointly develop. There may well be other power generation on that site eventually, which we will partner in or not. It's just as we expand these things, it will have a growth path. It's solid. It's a very, very large opportunity set for us.
Michael Stock: Yeah. You're right. This will be announced in phases. This is kind of like the first phase that will get built out, as these campuses expand. There's 2 sides to that campus, east, north, and south. That will be over time. They've got multiple campuses that we will end up, we may well jointly develop. There may well be other power generation on that site eventually, which we will partner in or not. It's just as we expand these things, it will have a growth path. It's solid. It's a very, very large opportunity set for us.
Speaker #1: Yeah. So you're right. This will be announced in phase. This is kind of like the first phase that we'll get built out. As these campuses expand, there's two sides to that campus, east to north to south.
Speaker #1: That will be over time. They've got multiple campuses that we will end up—we may well—jointly develop. And there may well be other power generation on that site eventually.
Speaker #1: And which we will partner in or not. It's just, as we expand these things, it will have a growth path. But it's a very, very large opportunity set for us.
Joe Laetsch: Great. Thanks. That's helpful. Then, on the frack side, could you just talk to the latest trends you're seeing in gas basin activity? We're back below 3 bucks on Henry Hub, and there's some concerns around higher associated gas given where oil prices sit and some pipelines coming off the Permian. Just your latest thoughts on activity in the oil versus gas basins here would be great. Thank you.
Joe Laetsch: Great. Thanks. That's helpful. Then, on the frack side, could you just talk to the latest trends you're seeing in gas basin activity? We're back below 3 bucks on Henry Hub, and there's some concerns around higher associated gas given where oil prices sit and some pipelines coming off the Permian. Just your latest thoughts on activity in the oil versus gas basins here would be great. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks. That's helpful. And then on the frac side, could you just talk to the latest trends you're seeing in gas basin activity? We're back below three bucks on Henry Hub, and there's some concerns around higher associated gas given where oil prices sit and some pipelines coming off the Permian.
Speaker #5: So just your latest thoughts on activity in the oil versus gas basins here would be great. Thank you.
Ron Gusek: Yeah, I would say the gas basins activity continues to be strong there. We continue to see very positive forward looks from our customer base in the pure gas basins. I think they're taking a long view to this, recognizing there's going to be some volatility along the way. The macro situation still looks quite positive. We have both the incremental growth and demand here onshore North America from a power generation standpoint. We see the amount of generation capacity that is going to be constructed over the coming years, and the math around the gas that's going to consume is relatively straightforward. We have that tailwind onshore North America. I think the tailwinds globally are also positive. Again, not without some bumps along the way, but I think we'll continue to see challenges from LNG export out of the Middle East.
Ron Gusek: Yeah, I would say the gas basins activity continues to be strong there. We continue to see very positive forward looks from our customer base in the pure gas basins. I think they're taking a long view to this, recognizing there's going to be some volatility along the way. The macro situation still looks quite positive. We have both the incremental growth and demand here onshore North America from a power generation standpoint. We see the amount of generation capacity that is going to be constructed over the coming years, and the math around the gas that's going to consume is relatively straightforward. We have that tailwind onshore North America. I think the tailwinds globally are also positive. Again, not without some bumps along the way, but I think we'll continue to see challenges from LNG export out of the Middle East.
Speaker #1: Yeah. I would say the gas basins activity continues to be strong there. We continue to see very positive forward looks from our customer base in the pure gas basins.
Speaker #1: I think they're taking a long view on this, recognizing there's going to be some volatility along the way. The macro situation still looks quite positive.
Speaker #1: We have both the incremental growth in demand here onshore North America from a power generation standpoint. We see the amount of generation capacity that is going to be constructed over the coming years.
Speaker #1: And the math around the gas that's going to consume is relatively straightforward. So we have that tailwind onshore North America. I think the tailwinds globally are also positive.
Speaker #1: Again, not without some bumps along the way, but I think we'll continue to see challenges from LNG export out of the Middle East. As a result, there's a trend toward leveraging supply out of the United States and Canada as longer-term opportunities going forward.
Ron Gusek: As a result, a trend towards leveraging the supply out of the United States and Canada as longer-term opportunities going forward. I'd say quite positive from that standpoint. Yes, we're going to get associated gas that's going to come from those oily basins as well, and that is absolutely going to be part of the supply stack and will have an impact on pricing over time as capacity comes on and then is filled and comes on and is filled. I think our gas customers are used to that. They're used to seeing some of this up and down. My sense is they're focused on the long term and the value proposition that they see there for the development of their assets.
Ron Gusek: As a result, a trend towards leveraging the supply out of the United States and Canada as longer-term opportunities going forward. I'd say quite positive from that standpoint. Yes, we're going to get associated gas that's going to come from those oily basins as well, and that is absolutely going to be part of the supply stack and will have an impact on pricing over time as capacity comes on and then is filled and comes on and is filled. I think our gas customers are used to that. They're used to seeing some of this up and down. My sense is they're focused on the long term and the value proposition that they see there for the development of their assets.
Speaker #1: So I'd say quite positive from that standpoint. Yes, we're going to get associated gas that's going to come from those oily basins as well.
Speaker #1: And that is absolutely going to be part of the supply stack and will have an impact on pricing over time as capacity comes on and then is filled and comes on and is filled.
Speaker #1: But I think our gas customers are used to that. They're used to seeing some of this up and down. But my sense is they're focused on the long term and the value proposition that they see there.
Speaker #1: For the development of their assets.
Joe Laetsch: Great. That all makes sense. Thank you.
Joe Laetsch: Great. That all makes sense. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Great, that all makes sense. Thank you.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Saurabh Pant with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Saurabh Pant with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Sara Pant with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Saurabh Pant: Hey, good morning, Ron and Michael.
Saurabh Pant: Hey, good morning, Ron and Michael.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning, Ron and Michael.
Ron Gusek: Good morning.
Ron Gusek: Good morning.
Speaker #1: Good morning.
Saurabh Pant: Ron, Michael, maybe Michael, you want to spend some time on this. I was trying to think through the one and a half billion dollar CapEx that you said for this year. What's remaining in the H2 is a little above $1.1 billion. I'm trying to line it up with your delivery schedule, your deployment expectations, and just the liquidity that you have. Right. Ultimately, how are you thinking, your latest thoughts on funding as we make our way through the progress payments and delivery and everything around that?
Saurabh Pant: Ron, Michael, maybe Michael, you want to spend some time on this. I was trying to think through the one and a half billion dollar CapEx that you said for this year. What's remaining in the H2 is a little above $1.1 billion. I'm trying to line it up with your delivery schedule, your deployment expectations, and just the liquidity that you have. Right. Ultimately, how are you thinking, your latest thoughts on funding as we make our way through the progress payments and delivery and everything around that?
Speaker #6: Ron, Michael, maybe Michael, you want to spend some time on this. I was trying to think through the one and a half billion dollar capex that you said for this year.
Speaker #6: What's remaining in the second half is a little above $1.1 billion. I'm trying to line it up with your delivery schedule, your deployment expectations, and just the liquidity that you have, right?
Speaker #6: So ultimately, how are you thinking—your latest thoughts on funding as we make our way through the progress payments and delivery and everything around that?
Michael Stock: As you see, kind of a large portion of that is deposits on long lead equipment. Our thoughts on funding really haven't changed as we sign the ESAs. These projects will be dropped into SPVs and then done with some version of project financing that'll be non-recourse back to the corporate balance sheet. That cash will get recycled back onto the corporate balance sheet and then be put down for further deposits. That's the funding cycle, general funding cycle of these, Saurabh.
Speaker #1: So yeah, as you see, kind of a large portion of that is deposits on long league equipment. Our thoughts on funding really haven't changed as we signed the ESAs.
Michael Stock: As you see, kind of a large portion of that is deposits on long lead equipment. Our thoughts on funding really haven't changed as we sign the ESAs. These projects will be dropped into SPVs and then done with some version of project financing that'll be non-recourse back to the corporate balance sheet. That cash will get recycled back onto the corporate balance sheet and then be put down for further deposits. That's the funding cycle, general funding cycle of these, Saurabh.
Speaker #1: These projects will be dropped into SPVs and then done with some version of project financing. That'll be non-recourse back to the corporate balance sheet.
Speaker #1: That cash will get recycled back onto the corporate balance sheet and then be put down for further deposits. So that's the funding cycle—the general funding cycle—of these.
Saurabh Pant: Okay. I got it. Has anything changed in terms of the payment terms and conditions, Michael? As you go ahead and secure more equipment, are you having to pay more upfront? I was also trying to tie it all into, I think you said $5 billion to $6 billion for the total 3 gigawatt. I'm wondering if that's a little higher than what you were thinking initially.
Saurabh Pant: Okay. I got it. Has anything changed in terms of the payment terms and conditions, Michael? As you go ahead and secure more equipment, are you having to pay more upfront? I was also trying to tie it all into, I think you said $5 billion to $6 billion for the total 3 gigawatt. I'm wondering if that's a little higher than what you were thinking initially.
Speaker #6: Okay. Okay, I got it. Has anything changed in terms of the payment terms and conditions, Michael, as you go ahead and secure more equipment?
Speaker #6: Are you having to pay more upfront? Because I was also trying to tie it all into—I think you said $5 to $6 billion for the total three gigawatt.
Speaker #6: I'm wondering if that's a little higher than what you were thinking initially.
Michael Stock: Yeah, I think it's a little higher. That's kind of baking in. We've got inflation that goes out through the deliveries in 2029. I think everybody's pointed out, generation is an incredibly short supply. Obviously, that makes a good position for the suppliers, the OEMs of this equipment, which allows them to negotiate terms that works for them. A lot of them are expanding their capacity. They are sort of also looking to their own cash flow. I'd say generally, earlier deposits were, if we'd modeled it in January versus the way the contracts have got finalized, they're a little bit higher, in the early year deposit than we probably would have initially thought. Costs are the same. We've baked in inflation, potential inflation re-costing, construction costs. That in our general, in my sort of overarching number that I gave you in that.
Michael Stock: Yeah, I think it's a little higher. That's kind of baking in. We've got inflation that goes out through the deliveries in 2029. I think everybody's pointed out, generation is an incredibly short supply. Obviously, that makes a good position for the suppliers, the OEMs of this equipment, which allows them to negotiate terms that works for them. A lot of them are expanding their capacity. They are sort of also looking to their own cash flow. I'd say generally, earlier deposits were, if we'd modeled it in January versus the way the contracts have got finalized, they're a little bit higher, in the early year deposit than we probably would have initially thought. Costs are the same. We've baked in inflation, potential inflation re-costing, construction costs. That in our general, in my sort of overarching number that I gave you in that.
Speaker #1: Yeah, I think it's a little higher. I mean, this kind of banking in, we've got inflation that goes out through the deliveries into 2029.
Speaker #1: As I think everybody's pointed out, generations are in incredibly short supply. So, obviously, that makes a good position for the suppliers, the OEMs of this equipment.
Speaker #1: Which allows them to negotiate terms that work for them, and a lot of them are expanding their capacity. So they are also looking to their own cash flow.
Speaker #1: So I'd say generally earlier deposits work if we've modeled it in January versus the way the contracts have got finalized. They're a little bit higher.
Speaker #1: In the early year deposit, then we probably would have initially thought. Costs are the same. We've baked in inflation. Inflate potential inflation recosting construction costs.
Speaker #1: And that's in our general, in my sort of overarching number that I gave you in that. And that'll include BESS, and that'll include, sort of, as we're looking at an average for our data center clients at 50% BESS, etc.
Michael Stock: That'll include base, that'll include sort of as we're looking at sort of an average for our data center clients at 50% base, et cetera. Yeah, it's an all-in cost.
Michael Stock: That'll include base, that'll include sort of as we're looking at sort of an average for our data center clients at 50% base, et cetera. Yeah, it's an all-in cost.
Speaker #1: So, yeah, it's an all-in cost.
Saurabh Pant: Right. No, that makes sense. Everything is tight, right? We got to see some inflation.
Saurabh Pant: Right. No, that makes sense. Everything is tight, right? We got to see some inflation.
Speaker #6: Right. No, that makes sense. Everything is tight, right? So we've got to see some inflation. Okay, that makes sense. And just a quick one on the frac side of things.
Michael Stock: Yeah.
Michael Stock: Yeah.
Saurabh Pant: Okay. That makes sense. Just a quick one on the frac side of things, Michael, Ron, I'm just thinking about the 2027 RFP season, right? I'm thinking about the bigger customers, the most stable customers that you have.
Saurabh Pant: Okay. That makes sense. Just a quick one on the frac side of things, Michael, Ron, I'm just thinking about the 2027 RFP season, right? I'm thinking about the bigger customers, the most stable customers that you have.
Speaker #6: Michael, Ron, I'm just thinking about the 2027 RFP season, right? So, I'm thinking about the bigger customers—the most stable customers that you have.
Saurabh Pant: Typically, we start seeing that in the fall. Still a little early for that, but any early thoughts on how you think your customers might be thinking about the RFP season? How you might be thinking about the RFP season? I know it's a very dynamic market, but any early thoughts on what we should expect out of that? Just even on the timing, do you think it's normal? Do you think it's later than normal this year? Do you think it could be pulled forward? Just any color on that.
Saurabh Pant: Typically, we start seeing that in the fall. Still a little early for that, but any early thoughts on how you think your customers might be thinking about the RFP season? How you might be thinking about the RFP season? I know it's a very dynamic market, but any early thoughts on what we should expect out of that? Just even on the timing, do you think it's normal? Do you think it's later than normal this year? Do you think it could be pulled forward? Just any color on that.
Speaker #6: Typically, we start seeing that in the fall. Still a little early for that. But any early thoughts on how you think your customers might be thinking about the RFP season?
Speaker #6: How are you thinking about the RFP season? I know it's a very dynamic market, but any early thoughts on what we should expect out of that?
Speaker #6: And just even on the timing—do you think it's normal? Do you think it's later than normal this year? Do you think it could be pulled forward? Just any color on that?
Ron Gusek: Arba, I would say our outlook for 2027 remains quite positive. We still have the underpinnings of a significant structural disruption in the supply of oil over this past number of months. We've had a billion plus barrels of oil taken out of the market, there is going to have to be a path to navigating back out of that. We, as we noted in our comments, are hearing about increased storage capacity being built in Asia and in Australia. We saw countries that faced really challenged supply situations earlier this year to the point where they were having to restrict usage of petroleum products, that's not a situation any country wants to find themselves in.
Ron Gusek: Arba, I would say our outlook for 2027 remains quite positive. We still have the underpinnings of a significant structural disruption in the supply of oil over this past number of months. We've had a billion plus barrels of oil taken out of the market, there is going to have to be a path to navigating back out of that. We, as we noted in our comments, are hearing about increased storage capacity being built in Asia and in Australia. We saw countries that faced really challenged supply situations earlier this year to the point where they were having to restrict usage of petroleum products, that's not a situation any country wants to find themselves in.
Speaker #5: So I would say our outlook for 2027 remains quite positive. We still have the underpinnings of a significant structural disruption in the supply of oil over these past number of months.
Speaker #5: We've had over a billion barrels of oil taken out of the market, and there is going to have to be a path to navigating back out of that.
Speaker #5: As we noted in our comments, we’re hearing about increased storage capacity being built in Asia and in Australia. We saw countries that faced really challenging supply situations earlier this year, to the point where they were having to restrict usage of petroleum products.
Speaker #5: And that's not a situation any country wants to find themselves in. So, I think we're going to see them working to build up resilience to that.
Ron Gusek: I think we're going to see them working to build up resilience to that, never mind beginning to refill the strategic petroleum reserves that were drawn down over the course of this to help mute the impact of the disruption. I think we have positive underpinnings for a solid 2027, I think that'll be reflected in the RFP season when that comes. I suspect it comes at a normal time. I don't think we're going to see it earlier or later than normal. I think we're going to see a positive tone from our customers there that will be reflective of the demand for North American product. As a result, that's why I think we feel positive about headed through the rest of this year and out into 2027.
Ron Gusek: I think we're going to see them working to build up resilience to that, never mind beginning to refill the strategic petroleum reserves that were drawn down over the course of this to help mute the impact of the disruption. I think we have positive underpinnings for a solid 2027, I think that'll be reflected in the RFP season when that comes. I suspect it comes at a normal time. I don't think we're going to see it earlier or later than normal. I think we're going to see a positive tone from our customers there that will be reflective of the demand for North American product. As a result, that's why I think we feel positive about headed through the rest of this year and out into 2027.
Speaker #5: Never mind beginning to refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserves that were drawn down over the course of this to help mute the impact of the disruption.
Speaker #5: So I think we have positive underpinnings for a solid 2027, and I think that'll be reflected in the RFP season when that comes. I suspect it comes at a normal time.
Speaker #5: I don't think we're going to see it earlier or later than normal. I think we're going to see a positive tone from our customers there.
Speaker #5: That will be reflective of the demand for North American product. As a result, that's why I think we feel positive about heading through the rest of this year and out into 2027.
Ron Gusek: We are certainly going to be in a better position than we were coming into the start of 2026.
Ron Gusek: We are certainly going to be in a better position than we were coming into the start of 2026.
Speaker #5: We are certainly going to be in a better position than we were coming into the start of 2026.
Saurabh Pant: Right. No, that makes sense. Thank you, Ron, Michael. I'll turn it back.
Saurabh Pant: Right. No, that makes sense. Thank you, Ron, Michael. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #6: Right. No, that makes sense. Thank you, Ron, Michael. I'll turn it back.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Derek Podhaizer with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Derek Podhaizer with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Derek Podheiser with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Derek Podhaizer: Hey, good morning. Just wanted to go back to the PowerBridge announcement for the Alpha Digital Campus. I guess, maybe help us understand what really gives you that confidence for the delivery date to start in Q4 2027. Maybe, is this expected to be islanded power? If not, what's the expectation for it to be put on the grid? Michael, I think you talked about that, the batch zero dynamic. Maybe just a little bit more on that and how that could potentially impact this project with PowerBridge.
Derek Podhaizer: Hey, good morning. Just wanted to go back to the PowerBridge announcement for the Alpha Digital Campus. I guess, maybe help us understand what really gives you that confidence for the delivery date to start in Q4 2027. Maybe, is this expected to be islanded power? If not, what's the expectation for it to be put on the grid? Michael, I think you talked about that, the batch zero dynamic. Maybe just a little bit more on that and how that could potentially impact this project with PowerBridge.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning. I just wanted to go back to the Power Bridge announcement for the Alpha Digital campus. I guess, maybe help us understand what really gives you that confidence for the delivery date to start in the fourth quarter of 2027.
Speaker #7: And then maybe, is this expected to be islanded power or, if not, what's the expectation for it to be put on the grid? Michael, I think you talked about that—the batch zero dynamic.
Speaker #7: So maybe just a little bit more on that and how that could potentially impact this project with Power Bridge.
Michael Stock: Yeah. One of the reasons we're excited about working with the PowerBridge teams, the technical teams are very, very close, is that we're able to sort of put in flight both the long lead time engineering and integration. We'll start with permitting, which in Texas is a relatively efficient process. Yeah, this will definitely start behind the meter. They'll likely be in a batch zero. They're in a batch zero area there. It will likely have a grid interconnection sometime in 2028. We shall see of what size. Given the dynamics of the West Texas market, it could probably be an export grid interconnection because there's very little spare power in that region. There's a lot of building going on, so I think that's where it is.
Michael Stock: Yeah. One of the reasons we're excited about working with the PowerBridge teams, the technical teams are very, very close, is that we're able to sort of put in flight both the long lead time engineering and integration. We'll start with permitting, which in Texas is a relatively efficient process. Yeah, this will definitely start behind the meter. They'll likely be in a batch zero. They're in a batch zero area there. It will likely have a grid interconnection sometime in 2028. We shall see of what size. Given the dynamics of the West Texas market, it could probably be an export grid interconnection because there's very little spare power in that region. There's a lot of building going on, so I think that's where it is.
Speaker #1: And one of the reasons we're excited about working with the Power Bridge teams—the technical teams are very, very close—is that we're able to sort of put in flight both the long lead time engineering and integration.
Speaker #1: And then we'll start with permitting, which in Texas is a relatively efficient process. And so, yeah, this will probably start—this will definitely start—behind the meter.
Speaker #1: That'll likely be in a batch zero. They're in a batch zero area there, so it will likely have a grid interconnection sometime in 2028.
Speaker #1: But we shall see what size, and given the dynamics of the West Texas market, it could probably be an export grid interconnection, because there's very little spare power in that region.
Speaker #1: So there's a lot of building going on. So I think that's where it is. But yeah, it'll be a batch zero site. But I think '28 the there.
Michael Stock: Yeah, that'll be a batch zero site, but I think 2028, the interconnection will be there.
Michael Stock: Yeah, that'll be a batch zero site, but I think 2028, the interconnection will be there.
Derek Podhaizer: Okay. Got it. That's helpful. On the frac side, just looking at what we saw in Q2, a really big step up in revenues, but clear lack of flow through with the 15% incrementals run. I think you touched on the chemicals and proppant market, but maybe just a little bit of color there. Then I know we've already discussed frac pricing, but just the confidence level to push that through. I mean, understand that WTI pulled back pretty hard, but where we're sitting today looks attractive. The 2027 strip looks attractive. We've seen this significant frac attrition. You have a high-graded fleet, just the ability to push price and what incrementals could look like as we get towards the back half of the year.
Derek Podhaizer: Okay. Got it. That's helpful. On the frac side, just looking at what we saw in Q2, a really big step up in revenues, but clear lack of flow through with the 15% incrementals run. I think you touched on the chemicals and proppant market, but maybe just a little bit of color there. Then I know we've already discussed frac pricing, but just the confidence level to push that through. I mean, understand that WTI pulled back pretty hard, but where we're sitting today looks attractive. The 2027 strip looks attractive. We've seen this significant frac attrition. You have a high-graded fleet, just the ability to push price and what incrementals could look like as we get towards the back half of the year.
Speaker #7: Okay, got it. That's helpful. Then on the frac side, just looking at what we saw in Q2, you had a really big step up in revenues, but a clear lack of flow-through with the 15% incrementals, Ron.
Speaker #7: I think you touched on the chemicals and profit market, but maybe just a little bit of color there. And then I know we've already discussed frac pricing, but just the confidence level to push that through.
Speaker #7: I mean, I understand that WTI pulled back pretty hard, but where we're sitting today looks attractive. The '27 strip looks attractive. We've seen this significant frac attrition.
Speaker #7: You have a high-graded fleet. Just the ability to push price, and what incrementals can look like as we get towards the back half of the year.
Ron Gusek: Yeah. I would say, Derek, we continue to remain positive on that. For sure on the service side of things, the opportunity to push price is there. The value for the technology proposition is absolutely there. You'll certainly feel that headed through Q3 and we'll see what Q4 looks like, but ideally through that as well. I would say we remain positive on that outlook, tempered by the macro uncertainty, whatever that may hold, but on that side of things are good. The commodity side, the product side, as I mentioned, a little more challenged. We still aren't in a position where sand prices are recovering meaningfully or things like that. We are doing a lot more simul-frac this year. That means we're moving a lot more product in a 24-hour window. We've got fleets that are putting away record levels of sand.
Ron Gusek: Yeah. I would say, Derek, we continue to remain positive on that. For sure on the service side of things, the opportunity to push price is there. The value for the technology proposition is absolutely there. You'll certainly feel that headed through Q3 and we'll see what Q4 looks like, but ideally through that as well. I would say we remain positive on that outlook, tempered by the macro uncertainty, whatever that may hold, but on that side of things are good. The commodity side, the product side, as I mentioned, a little more challenged. We still aren't in a position where sand prices are recovering meaningfully or things like that. We are doing a lot more simul-frac this year. That means we're moving a lot more product in a 24-hour window. We've got fleets that are putting away record levels of sand.
Speaker #6: Yeah, I would say, Derek, we continue.
Speaker #5: To remain positive on that. For sure, on the service side of things, the opportunity to push prices there—the value for the technology proposition is absolutely there.
Speaker #5: And you'll certainly feel that headed through Q3. We'll see what Q4 looks like, but ideally through that as well. So, I would say we remain positive on that outlook.
Speaker #5: Tempered by the macro uncertainty, whatever that may hold. But on that side of things, things are good. The commodity side, the product side, as I mentioned, is a little more challenged.
Speaker #5: We still aren't in the position where sand prices are recovering meaningfully, or things like that. And so, we are doing a lot more simul-frac this year.
Speaker #5: That means we're moving a lot more product in a 24-hour window. We've got fleets that are putting away record levels of sand. We announced a 24-hour record with a customer again this past quarter.
Ron Gusek: We announced a 24-hour record with a customer again this past quarter. We're moving a lot of product. As you've noted, that isn't coming with the margin uplift we'd love to see there. Hopefully, that resolves itself in the not too distant future as well.
Ron Gusek: We announced a 24-hour record with a customer again this past quarter. We're moving a lot of product. As you've noted, that isn't coming with the margin uplift we'd love to see there. Hopefully, that resolves itself in the not too distant future as well.
Speaker #5: So we're moving a lot of product, but as you've noted, that isn't coming with the margin uplift we'd love to see there. Hopefully, that resolves itself in the not-too-distant future as well.
Derek Podhaizer: Okay, great. Appreciate all the color, guys. I'll turn it back.
Derek Podhaizer: Okay, great. Appreciate all the color, guys. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #7: Okay, great. Appreciate all the color, guys. I'll turn it back.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Keith Mackey with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Keith Mackey with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Keith Mackey with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Keith Mackey: Hey, thanks, and good morning. Can you just start off with giving us a bit more color on your power generation on levered returns targets? As you've detailed, the CapEx has gone up significantly, which I think is something that doesn't necessarily surprise people at this point. Yet, you're still targeting a mid to high teens on levered return for that business. Can you just comment on how you're able to maintain that level of return while facing the CapEx inflation you're facing?
Keith Mackey: Hey, thanks, and good morning. Can you just start off with giving us a bit more color on your power generation on levered returns targets? As you've detailed, the CapEx has gone up significantly, which I think is something that doesn't necessarily surprise people at this point. Yet, you're still targeting a mid to high teens on levered return for that business. Can you just comment on how you're able to maintain that level of return while facing the CapEx inflation you're facing?
Speaker #8: Hey, thanks, and good morning. Can you just start off by giving us a bit more color on your power generation unlevered returns targets?
Speaker #8: As you've detailed, the capex has gone up significantly, which I think is something that doesn't necessarily surprise people at this point. And yet, you're still targeting mid to high teens unlevered return for that business.
Speaker #8: So, can you just comment on how you're able to maintain that level of return while facing the CapEx inflation you're facing?
Michael Stock: Yes. The prices have gone up, but I think it's the complete scope, and I think the demand is still within economic returns for the grid. We're still driving those strong returns. We don't see pushback on the pricing for us to get to that long-term pricing.
Michael Stock: Yes. The prices have gone up, but I think it's the complete scope, and I think the demand is still within economic returns for the grid. We're still driving those strong returns. We don't see pushback on the pricing for us to get to that long-term pricing.
Speaker #1: Yes. So, I mean, the price has gone up, but I think it's the complete scope. And I think the demands are still within economic returns for the grid.
Speaker #1: And so we're still driving those strong returns. We don't see pushback on the pricing for us to get to that long-term pricing.
Keith Mackey: Okay. Got it. You're able to raise prices commensurately.
Keith Mackey: Okay. Got it. You're able to raise prices commensurately.
Speaker #8: Okay, got it. So you're able to raise prices commensurately. Okay. Okay, thanks for that. And then, just going to the frac market—Ron, I don't think I've heard you talk about Canada so much on a call before.
Michael Stock: Yes.
Michael Stock: Yes.
Keith Mackey: Okay. Thanks for that. Just going to the frac market, Ron, I don't think I've heard you talk about Canada so much on a call before. Good to see that you have confidence in the market there. Can you just comment on what you're seeing in Canada relative to the US, and ultimately what underpinned your confidence to bring this new digiPrime fleet to Canada, and will that fleet be incremental to what you're currently running, or will there be some retirements to keep overall capacity the same?
Keith Mackey: Okay. Thanks for that. Just going to the frac market, Ron, I don't think I've heard you talk about Canada so much on a call before. Good to see that you have confidence in the market there. Can you just comment on what you're seeing in Canada relative to the US, and ultimately what underpinned your confidence to bring this new digiPrime fleet to Canada, and will that fleet be incremental to what you're currently running, or will there be some retirements to keep overall capacity the same?
Speaker #8: So, good to see that you have confidence in the market there. Can you just comment on what you're seeing in Canada relative to the US, and ultimately, what underpins your confidence to bring this new DG Prime fleet to Canada?
Speaker #8: Will that fleet be incremental to what you're currently running, or will there be some retirements to keep overall capacity the same?
Ron Gusek: Yes. I would say certainly have been excited to see developments in Canada over the last six months. It had been a challenged, I'll call it, decade up there, during which the industry was in a pretty tough spot. I think we've got some supportive outcomes going on there. The announcements around the pipeline, quite positive. I think that has some real optimism amongst the E&P community in Canada. We've seen some dollars come back to the country in the form of Shell buying ARC. These are all exciting developments that have us, I'd say, looking very positively at the country and the opportunities in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin. You're starting to see the acquisition environment there put companies in a place where they have real scale to operate a program that's probably more closely aligned with what we often see in the US.
Ron Gusek: Yes. I would say certainly have been excited to see developments in Canada over the last six months. It had been a challenged, I'll call it, decade up there, during which the industry was in a pretty tough spot. I think we've got some supportive outcomes going on there. The announcements around the pipeline, quite positive. I think that has some real optimism amongst the E&P community in Canada. We've seen some dollars come back to the country in the form of Shell buying ARC. These are all exciting developments that have us, I'd say, looking very positively at the country and the opportunities in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin. You're starting to see the acquisition environment there put companies in a place where they have real scale to operate a program that's probably more closely aligned with what we often see in the US.
Speaker #5: Yes, I would say I certainly have been excited to see developments in Canada over the last six months. It had been a challenging—I'll call it—decade up there.
Speaker #5: During which the industry was in a pretty tough spot. But I think we've got some supportive outcomes going on there. The announcements around the pipeline are quite positive.
Speaker #5: I think that has brought some real optimism among the E&P community in Canada. We've seen some dollars come back to the country in the form of Shell buying ARC.
Speaker #5: So, these are all exciting developments that have us, I'd say, looking very positively at the country and the opportunities in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin.
Speaker #5: You're starting to see the acquisition environment there put companies in a place where they have real scale to operate a program that's probably more closely aligned with what we often see in the U.S.
Ron Gusek: That being the full utilization of a fleet from January through December. That's also a positive development. That just leads to improved efficiencies and utilization of equipment. It was that outlook that had us in a place where we were excited to put this next generation equipment to work up there. We're shipping digiPrime up there. It's going to work for a customer that we work with on both sides of the border, that we've had a long partnership with, that has line of sight to a pretty meaningful program and high levels of utilization for that. It will be a replacement fleet for us and not additive at this point in time. I wouldn't say that the market is in a place where it would support additional capacity up there.
Ron Gusek: That being the full utilization of a fleet from January through December. That's also a positive development. That just leads to improved efficiencies and utilization of equipment. It was that outlook that had us in a place where we were excited to put this next generation equipment to work up there. We're shipping digiPrime up there. It's going to work for a customer that we work with on both sides of the border, that we've had a long partnership with, that has line of sight to a pretty meaningful program and high levels of utilization for that. It will be a replacement fleet for us and not additive at this point in time. I wouldn't say that the market is in a place where it would support additional capacity up there.
Speaker #5: That being the full utilization of a fleet from January through December, and that's also a positive development. That just leads to improved efficiencies and utilization of equipment.
Speaker #5: And it was that outlook that had us in a place where we were excited to put this next-generation equipment to work up there.
Speaker #5: So we're shipping DG Prime up there. It's going to work for our customer that we work with on both sides of the border—one we've had a long partnership with—that has line of sight to a pretty meaningful program and high levels of utilization for that.
Speaker #5: It will be a replacement fleet for us, and not additive at this point in time. I wouldn't say that the market is in a place where it would support additional capacity up there.
Ron Gusek: I hope that changes in the not too distant future, but today we're planning for it to be replacement for some older tier 2 dual fuel equipment or tier 2 diesel equipment that we have up there, I'm sorry.
Ron Gusek: I hope that changes in the not too distant future, but today we're planning for it to be replacement for some older tier 2 dual fuel equipment or tier 2 diesel equipment that we have up there, I'm sorry.
Speaker #5: I hope that changes in the not-too-distant future, but today we're planning for it to be a replacement for some older Tier 2 dual fuel equipment, or Tier 2 diesel equipment, that we have up there. I'm sorry.
Operator 1: Okay. Thanks very much.
Keith Mackey: Okay. Thanks very much.
Speaker #8: Okay. Thanks very much.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Caitlin Donohue with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Caitlin Donohue with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Caitlin Donohue with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Caitlin Donohue: Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to touch on LWC. Can you walk us through how you plan to leverage the business and the participation in the power markets, how you see it aiding in Liberty's long-term power strategy?
Caitlin Donohue: Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to touch on LWC. Can you walk us through how you plan to leverage the business and the participation in the power markets, how you see it aiding in Liberty's long-term power strategy?
Speaker #9: Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to touch on LWC. Can you walk us through how you plan to leverage the business and the participation in the power markets, and how you see it aiding in Liberty's long-term power strategy?
Ron Gusek: Yeah. I would say, Caitlin, that it offers us a wide range of opportunities, but there are really a couple that we are quite focused on. I think we said a little bit about this in the past, but if you think about an environment like West Texas, where there has been meaningful deployment of wind and solar on the grid, you have these environments, a hot sunny day where the wind is blowing, where there is abundant power available on the grid and wholesale prices are pushed down to quite low levels. We have the opportunity to leverage that for the benefit of the economics of the project over the long term. We wanted to put ourselves in a position where we're absolutely able to do that.
Ron Gusek: Yeah. I would say, Caitlin, that it offers us a wide range of opportunities, but there are really a couple that we are quite focused on. I think we said a little bit about this in the past, but if you think about an environment like West Texas, where there has been meaningful deployment of wind and solar on the grid, you have these environments, a hot sunny day where the wind is blowing, where there is abundant power available on the grid and wholesale prices are pushed down to quite low levels. We have the opportunity to leverage that for the benefit of the economics of the project over the long term. We wanted to put ourselves in a position where we're absolutely able to do that.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I would say, Caitlin, that it offers us a wide range of opportunities, but they're really a couple that we are quite focused on.
Speaker #5: And I think we've said a little bit about this in the past, but if you think about an environment like West Texas where there has been meaningful deployment of wind and solar on the grid, you have these environments hot sunny day where the wind is blowing where there is abundant power available on the grid and wholesale prices are pushed down to quite low levels.
Speaker #5: We have the opportunity to leverage that for the benefit of the economics of the project over the long term. So we wanted to put ourselves in a position where we absolutely able to do that, where when the grid was in a situation where they might otherwise have to curtail power and that's pushing prices down, that we could wind down our generation procure power at low prices off the grid, maybe help them avoid some curtailment, hold the capacity factor for the grid up a little bit, and boost our economics at the same point in time.
Ron Gusek: Where when the grid was in a situation where they might otherwise have to curtail power and that's pushing prices down, that we could wind down our generation, procure power at low prices off the grid, maybe help them avoid some curtailment, hold the capacity factor for the grid up a little bit and boost our economics at the same point in time, while ultimately saving our customers some fuel. Because of course, fuel is a pass-through for them. On the flip side of that, there are also some other opportunities to make sure that we are supportive of the grid. Communities want to know and understand that the hyperscalers are bringing to the table not only their own generation, but ideally support for the grid, a means by which to help hold power prices down. They are very concerned about their electricity prices with good reason.
Ron Gusek: Where when the grid was in a situation where they might otherwise have to curtail power and that's pushing prices down, that we could wind down our generation, procure power at low prices off the grid, maybe help them avoid some curtailment, hold the capacity factor for the grid up a little bit and boost our economics at the same point in time, while ultimately saving our customers some fuel. Because of course, fuel is a pass-through for them. On the flip side of that, there are also some other opportunities to make sure that we are supportive of the grid. Communities want to know and understand that the hyperscalers are bringing to the table not only their own generation, but ideally support for the grid, a means by which to help hold power prices down. They are very concerned about their electricity prices with good reason.
Speaker #5: Well, ultimately saving our customers some fuel because, of course, fuel is a pass-through for them. But on the flip side of that, there are also some other opportunities to make sure that we are supportive of the grid.
Speaker #5: Communities want to know and understand that the hyperscalers are bringing to the table not only their own generation, but ideally, support for the grid.
Speaker #5: It's a means by which to help hold power prices down. They are very concerned about their electricity prices, with good reason. I think they're focused on the wrong issues for why prices are going up.
Ron Gusek: I think they're focused on the wrong issues for why prices are going up. We want to make sure that we can provide confidence that as a generation partner there, we are able to provide some assistance in that regard to leverage the additional generation capacity that we have on location to aid the grid in times of tightness where power prices are climbing. We see that as kind of a means that we can play the grid in two ways. My guess is that it'll probably be primarily the one where we are leveraging lower cost power on the grid for economic benefit, but we are absolutely committed to delivering the message that we are there to support the grid as well in cases where that's needed.
Ron Gusek: I think they're focused on the wrong issues for why prices are going up. We want to make sure that we can provide confidence that as a generation partner there, we are able to provide some assistance in that regard to leverage the additional generation capacity that we have on location to aid the grid in times of tightness where power prices are climbing. We see that as kind of a means that we can play the grid in two ways. My guess is that it'll probably be primarily the one where we are leveraging lower cost power on the grid for economic benefit, but we are absolutely committed to delivering the message that we are there to support the grid as well in cases where that's needed.
Speaker #5: But we want to make sure that we can provide confidence that, as a generation partner there, we are able to provide some assistance in that regard—to leverage the additional generation capacity that we have on location to aid the grid in times of tightness, where power prices are climbing.
Speaker #5: And so we see that as kind of a means that we can play the grid in two ways. My guess is that it'll probably be primarily the one where we are leveraging lower cost power on the grid for economic benefit, but we are absolutely committed to delivering the message that we are there to support the grid as well in cases where that's needed.
Rachel Smith: That makes sense. Just one last one for me. Regionally, I know you've been talking about this opportunity in West Texas. How are you seeing other opportunities across the US, whether you're speaking with customers in PJM, just level setting what you're seeing in terms of demand from other regions outside of ERCOT?
Caitlin Donohue: That makes sense. Just one last one for me. Regionally, I know you've been talking about this opportunity in West Texas. How are you seeing other opportunities across the US, whether you're speaking with customers in PJM, just level setting what you're seeing in terms of demand from other regions outside of ERCOT?
Speaker #9: That makes sense. And just one last one for me. Regionally, I know you've been talking about this opportunity in West Texas. How are you seeing other opportunities across the US—whether you're speaking with customers in PJM—just kind of level setting what you're seeing in terms of demand from other regions outside of ERCOT?
Michael Stock: Yeah. Pretty strongly. Customers are looking at a diverse set of opportunities. From the West, far West is Nevada, through Utah, Wyoming, Texas, obviously, I think the largest portion of power generation and data centers will be built, and then sort of swinging down through the South and even as far as Mississippi, some of the co-ops there, and then up into PJM, Ohio, and even discussions in the Northeast in some sites that are reclaimed industrial sites in Michigan. Yeah, there's a lot of interest across the whole country.
Michael Stock: Yeah. Pretty strongly. Customers are looking at a diverse set of opportunities. From the West, far West is Nevada, through Utah, Wyoming, Texas, obviously, I think the largest portion of power generation and data centers will be built, and then sort of swinging down through the South and even as far as Mississippi, some of the co-ops there, and then up into PJM, Ohio, and even discussions in the Northeast in some sites that are reclaimed industrial sites in Michigan. Yeah, there's a lot of interest across the whole country.
Speaker #5: Pretty strong way. I mean, we've got a diverse customers are looking at a diversity of opportunities. From the west, far west is Nevada. Through Utah, Wyoming, Texas, obviously, I think the largest portion of power generation and data centers will be built and then sort of bringing down through the south in this even as far as Mississippi, some of the co-ops there, and then up into the PJM, Ohio.
Speaker #5: And even discussions in the northeast and some sites that are reclaimed, industrial sites, in Michigan. So yeah, there's a lot of interest across the whole country.
Caitlin Donohue: That's helpful. I'll turn it back.
Caitlin Donohue: That's helpful. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #9: That's helpful. I'll turn it back.
Operator 2: The next question will come from Eddie Kim with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Eddie Kim with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from Eddie Kim with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Eddie Kim: Good morning. Just one question from me. Just circling back to PowerBridge and the Alpha Digital campus.
Eddie Kim: Good morning. Just one question from me. Just circling back to PowerBridge and the Alpha Digital campus.
Speaker #10: Hi, good morning. Just one question from me—just circling back to Power Bridge and the Alpha Digital campus. What's your confidence level that the project will qualify for base load categorization in our COTS batch zero process?
Eddie Kim: What's your confidence level that the project will qualify for base load categorization in ERCOT's batch zero process? If it doesn't qualify for base load, I would think that might put the Q4 2027 or even the 2028 timeline at risk.
Eddie Kim: What's your confidence level that the project will qualify for base load categorization in ERCOT's batch zero process? If it doesn't qualify for base load, I would think that might put the Q4 2027 or even the 2028 timeline at risk.
Speaker #10: Because if it doesn't qualify for base load, I would think that might put the Q4 '27 or even the 2028 timeline at risk.
Michael Stock: Two things. I think it will be batch zero. I think power is going to be short in that region. The early generation is going to be behind the meter, that won't be at risk from the batch zero. The timeline won't be at risk. The early generation's going to be behind the meter for a dedicated campus.
Michael Stock: Two things. I think it will be batch zero. I think power is going to be short in that region. The early generation is going to be behind the meter, that won't be at risk from the batch zero. The timeline won't be at risk. The early generation's going to be behind the meter for a dedicated campus.
Speaker #5: So two things. Yeah, I think it will be batch zero. I think power is going to be short in that region. And the early generation is going to be behind the meter, so that won't be at risk from the batch zero.
Speaker #5: So timeline won't be at risk. So the early generation is going to be behind the meter for a dead yeah, we'll end up being a dedicated campus.
Eddie Kim: Okay. Understood. Great. That's all I had. Thank you.
Eddie Kim: Okay. Understood. Great. That's all I had. Thank you.
Speaker #10: Okay, understood. Great. That's all I had. Thank you.
Operator 2: The next question will come from John Daniel with Daniel Energy Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from John Daniel with Daniel Energy Partners. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: The next question will come from John Daniel with Daniel Energy Partners. Please go ahead.
John Daniel: Hey, guys. Just a quick follow-up to Keith's question on the fleet that went to Canada. Was that some of the new capacity that you built, or was that a transfer from the US? Then can you just speak broadly to your 2027 thoughts, early thoughts on further digiPrime build-out? Thank you.
John Daniel: Hey, guys. Just a quick follow-up to Keith's question on the fleet that went to Canada. Was that some of the new capacity that you built, or was that a transfer from the US? Then can you just speak broadly to your 2027 thoughts, early thoughts on further digiPrime build-out? Thank you.
Speaker #11: Hey, guys. Just a quick follow-up to Keith's question on the fleet that went to Canada. Was that some of the new capacity that you built, or was that a transfer from the US and then can you just speak broadly to your 27 thoughts, early thoughts on further DG Prime build-out?
Speaker #11: Thank you.
Ron Gusek: John, that'll be new capacity we're building. It'll be built and delivered over the back half of this year. Unfortunately, the requirements for trailers in Canada are not aligned with the requirements for trailers in the United States from an axle design standpoint, so it is equipment that is designed specifically for transport on the roads in Canada, and as a result, sits on a unique trailer for that. We're building that as we speak. I would say that as far as continued demand for digiPrime, as you can imagine with the crack spread where it is and diesel prices remaining elevated, natural gas as a fuel source remains very attractive, and we continue to have significant inbound demand for digiPrime as a result.
Ron Gusek: John, that'll be new capacity we're building. It'll be built and delivered over the back half of this year. Unfortunately, the requirements for trailers in Canada are not aligned with the requirements for trailers in the United States from an axle design standpoint, so it is equipment that is designed specifically for transport on the roads in Canada, and as a result, sits on a unique trailer for that. We're building that as we speak. I would say that as far as continued demand for digiPrime, as you can imagine with the crack spread where it is and diesel prices remaining elevated, natural gas as a fuel source remains very attractive, and we continue to have significant inbound demand for digiPrime as a result.
Speaker #5: John, that'll be new capacity we're building. It'll be built and delivered over the back half of this year. Unfortunately, the requirements for trailers in Canada are not aligned with the requirements for trailers in the United States from an axle design standpoint.
Speaker #5: And so it is equipment that is designed specifically for transport on the roads in Canada, and as a result, sits on a unique trailer for that.
Speaker #5: So we're building that as we speak. I would say that as far as continued demand for DG Prime, as you can imagine with the crack spread where it is and diesel prices remaining elevated, natural gas as a fuel source remains very, very attractive.
Speaker #5: And we continue to have Prime. As a result, we haven't made decisions around a capex program for 2027 at this point in time, but we'll be working through that with the board, sharing with them our customers' desires and what we think ultimately is going to be a reasonable path forward.
Ron Gusek: We haven't made decisions around a CapEx program for 2027 at this point in time, we'll be working through that with the board, sharing with them our customers' desires and what we think ultimately is going to be a reasonable path forward. You can certainly, I think almost certainly expect us to build some digiPrime in 2027, barring a change in things.
Ron Gusek: We haven't made decisions around a CapEx program for 2027 at this point in time, we'll be working through that with the board, sharing with them our customers' desires and what we think ultimately is going to be a reasonable path forward. You can certainly, I think almost certainly expect us to build some digiPrime in 2027, barring a change in things.
Speaker #5: But you can certainly I think almost certainly expect us to build some DG Prime in 2027, barring a change in things.
John Daniel: Do you think that demand if oil prices stay where they are now and just the outlook stays robust, do you think we could return to the days of take-or-pay contracts for equipment like digiPrime in 2027?
John Daniel: Do you think that demand if oil prices stay where they are now and just the outlook stays robust, do you think we could return to the days of take-or-pay contracts for equipment like digiPrime in 2027?
Speaker #11: Do you think the demand if fuel prices stay where they are now and just the outlook stays robust, do you think we could return to the days of take or pay contracts for equipment like DG Prime in '27?
Ron Gusek: Well, John, for us, of course, we've never really asked for a take-or-pay per se.
Ron Gusek: Well, John, for us, of course, we've never really asked for a take-or-pay per se. That generally hasn't been in our DNA. Our outlook or expectation around putting digiPrime to work has not changed, even in these challenged environments. If we're going to deliver digiPrime, we want line of sight to a couple of years of work and an appropriate payback timeframe for that. That's been true in 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, and it'll be true in 2027 again as well.
Speaker #5: Well, John, for us, of course, we've never really asked for a take or pay per se. We that generally hasn't been in our DNA.
John Daniel: Yeah.
Ron Gusek: That generally hasn't been in our DNA. Our outlook or expectation around putting digiPrime to work has not changed, even in these challenged environments. If we're going to deliver digiPrime, we want line of sight to a couple of years of work and an appropriate payback timeframe for that. That's been true in 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, and it'll be true in 2027 again as well.
Speaker #5: But our outlook or expectation around putting DG Prime to work has not changed. Even in these challenging environments, if we're going to deliver DG Prime, we want line of sight to a couple of years of work and an appropriate payback timeframe for that.
Speaker #5: And that's been true that's been true in '23, '24, '25, '26, and it'll be true in '27 again as well.
John Daniel: Okay. Thank you for including me.
John Daniel: Okay. Thank you for including me.
Speaker #11: Okay. Thank you for including me.
Ron Gusek: Thank you.
Ron Gusek: Thank you.
Michael Stock: Thanks, John. Appreciate it.
Michael Stock: Thanks, John. Appreciate it.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, John. Appreciate it.
Operator 2: I will now turn it back to Ron for closing remarks.
Operator: I will now turn it back to Ron for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: I will now turn it back to Ron for closing remarks.
Ron Gusek: Our mission at Liberty is a simple one: to better human lives, the lives of those who work here, the lives of those in the communities within which we work, and the lives of those around the world who rely on the abundant, affordable, reliable energy we help to produce each and every day. This year, we are proud to celebrate 15 years in service of that mission. Jim Brady, our SVP of Operations and employee number 1 at Liberty, started on 2 May 2011. We were a small company with one fleet operating out of a tent in Williston, North Dakota. We were built around a simple vision that Chris and Jim shared from the very beginning: to build the best damn frac company, period. We hired 51 people that first year. 33 of them are still working here today, and we've added almost 6,000 more.
Ron Gusek: Our mission at Liberty is a simple one: to better human lives, the lives of those who work here, the lives of those in the communities within which we work, and the lives of those around the world who rely on the abundant, affordable, reliable energy we help to produce each and every day. This year, we are proud to celebrate 15 years in service of that mission. Jim Brady, our SVP of Operations and employee number 1 at Liberty, started on 2 May 2011. We were a small company with one fleet operating out of a tent in Williston, North Dakota. We were built around a simple vision that Chris and Jim shared from the very beginning: to build the best damn frac company, period. We hired 51 people that first year. 33 of them are still working here today, and we've added almost 6,000 more.
Speaker #5: Our mission at Liberty is a simple one. To better human lives. The lives of those who work here, the lives of those in the communities within which we work, and the lives of those around the world who rely on the abundance, affordable, reliable energy.
Speaker #5: We help to produce, each and every day. This year, we are proud to celebrate 15 years in service of that mission. Jim Brady, our SVP of Operations and employee number one at Liberty, started on May 2, 2011.
Speaker #5: We were a small company with one fleet operating out of a tent in Williston, North Dakota. We were built around a simple vision that Chris and Jim shared from the very beginning.
Speaker #5: To build the best damn frack company, period. We hired 51 people that first year. 33 of them are still working here today, and we've added almost 6,000 more.
Ron Gusek: The scale of what we've built together is extraordinary, the shared culture and values that brought us together in those early days have not changed. Our success is thanks first and foremost to the 6,000 individuals at Liberty who come to work every day with the goal of delivering excellence in everything that we do. There is no such thing as a commoditized business when people are involved. People matter. Safety matters. Service quality matters. Relationships matter. I want to thank all of you in the Liberty family, especially the men and women who are at the tip of the spear out in the field, for ensuring that everyone you work alongside, every one of our customers, and every one of our supply partners experience our values every day. You are what makes Liberty so special.
Ron Gusek: The scale of what we've built together is extraordinary, the shared culture and values that brought us together in those early days have not changed. Our success is thanks first and foremost to the 6,000 individuals at Liberty who come to work every day with the goal of delivering excellence in everything that we do. There is no such thing as a commoditized business when people are involved. People matter. Safety matters. Service quality matters. Relationships matter. I want to thank all of you in the Liberty family, especially the men and women who are at the tip of the spear out in the field, for ensuring that everyone you work alongside, every one of our customers, and every one of our supply partners experience our values every day. You are what makes Liberty so special.
Speaker #5: The scale of what we've built together is extraordinary, but the shared culture and values that brought us together in those early days have not changed.
Speaker #5: Our success is thanks first and foremost to the 6,000 individuals at Liberty who come to work every day with the goal of delivering excellence in everything that we do.
Speaker #5: There is no such thing as a commoditized business when people are involved. People matter. Safety matters. Service quality matters. Relationships matter. And I want to thank all of you in the Liberty family especially the men and women who are at the tip of the spear out in the field.
Speaker #5: For ensuring that everyone you work alongside, every one of our customers, and every one of our supply partners experience our values every day. You are what makes Liberty so special.
Ron Gusek: There are so many highlights to celebrate from 15 years, certainly more than I can name in this short time, but there are a few that stand out. We grew from a tent in the Bakken to operations across 10 basins, including Canada and Australia. We completed the transformational acquisitions of Sanjel US assets and Schlumberger's North American OneStim assets, became a publicly traded company listed on the NYSE, and grew to more than $4 billion in annual revenue. Along the way, we published three editions of Bettering Human Lives and launched the Bettering Human Lives Foundation. We introduced great technologies like the Quiet Fleet, the entire digi platform, novel sand handling systems, and expanded through vertical integration, equipment packaging, and CNG fuel supply, and most recently entered into the distributed power generation business.
Ron Gusek: There are so many highlights to celebrate from 15 years, certainly more than I can name in this short time, but there are a few that stand out. We grew from a tent in the Bakken to operations across 10 basins, including Canada and Australia. We completed the transformational acquisitions of Sanjel US assets and Schlumberger's North American OneStim assets, became a publicly traded company listed on the NYSE, and grew to more than $4 billion in annual revenue. Along the way, we published three editions of Bettering Human Lives and launched the Bettering Human Lives Foundation. We introduced great technologies like the Quiet Fleet, the entire digi platform, novel sand handling systems, and expanded through vertical integration, equipment packaging, and CNG fuel supply, and most recently entered into the distributed power generation business.
Speaker #5: There are so many highlights to celebrate from 15 years—certainly more than I can name in this short time—but there are a few that stand out.
Speaker #5: We grew from a tent in the Bakken to operations across 10 basins, including Canada and Australia. We completed the transformational acquisitions of Sanjel's U.S. assets and Schlumberger's North American OneStim assets.
Speaker #5: We became a publicly traded company listed on the NYSE and grew to more than $4 billion in annual revenue. Along the way, we published three editions of Bettering Human Lives and launched the Bettering Human Lives Foundation.
Speaker #5: We introduced great technologies like the Quiet Fleet, the entire DG platform, novel sand handling systems, and expanded through vertical integration and equipment packaging and CNG fuel supply, and most recently entered into the distributed power generation business.
Ron Gusek: We've accomplished a lot in our first 15 years, but we're just getting started as we continue to build the best damn energy company, period. To the entire Liberty family and to our partners and friends on this journey, thank you for all that you do. It is a privilege to work alongside you all. Liberty forever.
Ron Gusek: We've accomplished a lot in our first 15 years, but we're just getting started as we continue to build the best damn energy company, period. To the entire Liberty family and to our partners and friends on this journey, thank you for all that you do. It is a privilege to work alongside you all. Liberty forever.
Speaker #5: We've accomplished a lot in our first 15 years, but we're just getting started as we continue to build the best damn energy company, period.
Speaker #5: So to the entire Liberty family, and to our partners and friends on this journey, thank you for all that you do. It is a privilege to work alongside you all.
Speaker #5: Liberty forever.
Operator 2: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
Operator: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.