Q2 2026 The Bank of N.T. Butterfield & Son Ltd Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning. My name is Nick, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the second quarter 2026 earnings call for the Bank of N.T.
Speaker #1: Butterfield & Son Ltd. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero.
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Speaker #2: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Today, we will be reviewing Butterfield's second quarter 2026 financial results. On the call, I am joined by Michael Collins, Butterfield's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Michael Schrum, President and Chief Financial Officer; and Bree Hidalgo, Chief Risk Officer.
Noah Fields: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Today, we will be reviewing Butterfield's Q2 2026 financial results. On the call, I am joined by Michael Collins, Butterfield's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Michael Schrum, President and Chief Financial Officer; and Bri Hidalgo, Chief Risk Officer. Following their prepared remarks, we will open the call up for a question-and-answer session. Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release announcing our Q2 2026 results. The press release and financial statements, along with a slide presentation that we will refer to during our remarks on this call, are available on the investor relations section of our website at butterfieldgroup.com. Before I turn the call over to Michael Collins, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussions will refer to certain non-GAAP measures, which we believe are important in evaluating the company's performance.
Speaker #2: Following their prepared remarks, we will open the call up for a question-and-answer session. Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release announcing our second quarter 2026 results.
Speaker #2: The press release and financial statements, along with a slide presentation, that we will refer to during our remarks on this call, are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at butterfieldgroup.com.
Speaker #2: Before I turn the call over to Michael Collins, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussions will refer to certain non-GAAP measures, which we believe are important in evaluating the company's performance.
Speaker #2: For a reconciliation of these measures to US GAAP, please refer to the earnings press release and slide presentation. Today's call and associated materials may also contain certain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results to different materially from those contemplated by these statements.
Noah Fields: For a reconciliation of these measures to U.S. GAAP, please refer to the earnings press release and slide presentation. Today's call and associated materials may also contain certain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by these statements. Additional information regarding these risks can be found in our SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to Michael Collins.
Speaker #2: A different additional information regarding these risks can be found in our SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to Michael Collins.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Noah, and thanks to everyone joining the call today. Butterfield’s second quarter performance demonstrated the strength of our franchise, the value of deep customer relationships, and the disciplined execution of our strategy.
Michael Collins: Thank you, Noah, and thanks to everyone joining the call today. Butterfield's Q2 performance demonstrated the strength of our franchise, the value of deep customer relationships, and the disciplined execution of our strategy. As a reminder to anyone new to Butterfield, we are a leading offshore bank and wealth management company with franchise-level market shares in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, complemented by an expanding retail banking presence in the Channel Islands. Additionally, we provide wealth management solutions to high-net-worth individuals, families, and institutions through our offices in the Bahamas, Switzerland, Singapore, and the UK, where we originate high-net-worth residential mortgages for prime Central London properties. Our business is built around enduring client relationships and a diversified suite of services that includes banking, wealth management, trust, asset management, and custody.
Speaker #3: As a reminder to anyone new to Butterfield, we are a leading offshore bank and wealth management company, with franchise-level market shares in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, complemented by an expanding retail banking presence in the Channel Islands.
Speaker #3: Additionally, we provide wealth management solutions to high-net-worth individuals, families, and institutions through our offices in the Bahamas, Switzerland, Singapore, and the UK, where we originate high-net-worth residential mortgages for prime central London properties.
Speaker #3: Our business is built around enduring client relationships and a diversified suite of services that includes banking, wealth management, trusts, asset management, and custody. This diversified business model combined with our strong capital position, high-quality balance sheet, and disciplined risk management framework enables us to generate consistent returns while remaining focused on delivering value for our clients, communities, and shareholders.
Michael Collins: This diversified business model, combined with our strong capital position, high-quality balance sheet, and disciplined risk management framework, enables us to generate consistent returns while remaining focused on delivering value for our clients, communities, and shareholders. I will now turn to the Q2 highlights on page six. Butterfield reported net income of $46.9 million and core net income of $63.9 million. We reported core earnings per share of $1.58, with a core return on average tangible common equity of 25% in the Q2. The net interest margin was 2.74% in the Q2, one basis point lower than the prior quarter, with the cost of deposits increasing one basis point to 125 basis points from the prior quarter. We again announced a quarterly cash dividend of $0.50 per share. During the Q2, we continued to repurchase shares with a total of 300,000 shares.
Speaker #3: I will now turn to the second quarter highlights on page six. Butterfield reported net income of 46.9 million dollars and core net income of 63.9 million dollars.
Speaker #3: We reported core earnings per share of $1.58, with a core return on average tangible common equity of 25% in the second quarter. The net interest margin was 2.74% in the second quarter, one basis point lower than the prior quarter, with the cost of deposits increasing one basis point to $125 basis points from the prior quarter.
Speaker #3: We again announced a quarterly cash dividend of $0.50 per share. During the second quarter, we continued to repurchase shares, with a total of 300,000 shares.
Speaker #3: Following the announcement of the agreement to acquire CIBC Caribbean, we paused share repurchases on May 28, 2026. We will likely continue this pause, or potentially scale back relative to our previous repurchase activity, as we evaluate growth prospects and build back capital organically.
Michael Collins: Following the announcement of the agreement to acquire CIBC Caribbean, we paused share repurchases on 28 May 2026. We will likely continue this pause or potentially scale back relative to our previous repurchase activity as we evaluate growth prospects and build back capital organically. I am pleased to say that the integration of RNH Guernsey is progressing smoothly. We are already seeing the benefits of combining complementary capabilities while maintaining the high level of service our clients expect. The successful execution reinforces our confidence in our ability to integrate acquisitions effectively while remaining focused on delivering strong day-to-day operating performance. The Q2 marked an important milestone for Butterfield. The announced agreement to acquire CIBC Caribbean represents a significant step forward in our long-term growth strategy, expanding our scale, expanding our regional footprint, and enhancing our ability to serve customers.
Speaker #3: I am pleased to say that the integration of RNH currency is progressing smoothly. We are already seeing the benefits of combining complementary capabilities while maintaining the high level of service our clients expect.
Speaker #3: The successful execution reinforces our confidence in our ability to integrate acquisitions effectively, while remaining focused on delivering strong day-to-day operating performance. The second quarter marked an important milestone for Butterfield.
Speaker #3: The announced agreement to acquire CIBC Caribbean represents a significant step forward in our long-term growth strategy, expanding our scale, expanding our regional footprint, and enhancing our ability to serve customers.
Speaker #3: Opportunities like this one do not come along often, and CIBC Caribbean is a business that we know well. We're excited about the combination for our clients, our employees, and our shareholders, and our teams are working diligently to prepare for a successful integration following the close of the transaction, which remains subject to the required regulatory approvals.
Michael Collins: Opportunities like this one do not come along often, and CIBC Caribbean is a business that we know well. We're excited about the combination for our clients, our employees, and our shareholders, and our teams are working diligently to prepare for a successful integration following the close of the transaction, which remains subject to the required regulatory approvals. Bree will provide a deal progress update later in the call. I will now turn the call over to Michael Schrum for more details on the Q2.
Speaker #3: Bree will provide a deal progress update later in the call. I will now turn the call over to Michael Schrum for more details on the second quarter.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Michael, and good morning. On slide seven, we provide a summary of net interest income and net interest margin. In the second quarter, we reported net interest income before provisions for credit losses of $95.6 million, an increase of $2.3 million from the prior quarter, and an increase of $6.2 million from the second quarter of 2025.
Michael Schrum: Thank you, Michael, and good morning. On slide seven, we provide a summary of net interest income and net interest margin. In the Q2, we reported net interest income before provision for credit losses of $95.6 million, an increase of $2.3 million from the prior quarter, and an increase of $6.2 million from the Q2 of 2025. The improvement was driven primarily by some growth in interest-earning asset volumes, as well as an extra day when compared to the prior quarter. The net interest margin was one basis point lower than the prior quarter at 2.74%. This decrease is primarily due to a one basis point increase in deposit cost during the quarter. We continue to expect NIM to be broadly stable with a slight positive bias for the remainder of the year due to continued asset repricing.
Speaker #2: The improvement was driven primarily by some growth in interest-earning asset volumes, as well as an extra day when compared to the prior quarter. The net interest margin was one basis point lower than the prior quarter at 2.74%.
Speaker #3: This decrease is primarily due to a one basis point increase in deposit costs during the quarter. We continue to expect NIM to be broadly stable, with a slight positive bias for the remainder of the year due to continued asset repricing.
Speaker #3: Balance sheet trends show the average loan balance is increasing quarter over quarter, supporting earnings growth, while average investment balances remained relatively flat.
Michael Schrum: Balance sheet trends show average loan balances increasing quarter over quarter, supporting earnings growth while average investment balances remained relatively flat. Overall, the quarter reflects continued asset growth and high net interest income generation while maintaining a stable margin profile. Slide eight provides a summary of non-interest income, which increased modestly to $63.4 million in Q2 2026, up $700,000 from the prior quarter and continuing the generally stable trend observed over the past year. Compared with $57 million in Q2 2025, fee-based revenue has shown solid year-over-year progress. This quarter's improvement was primarily driven by the higher trust revenues reflecting onboarding activity related to RNH during the period. This benefit was partially offset by lower foreign exchange revenue due to reduced transaction volumes and lower banking fees.
Speaker #2: Overall, the quarter reflects continued asset growth and higher net interest income generation while maintaining a stable margin profile.
Speaker #3: Slide eight provides a summary of non-interest income, which increased modestly to $63.4 million in the second quarter of 2026, up $700,000 from the prior quarter, and continuing the generally stable trend observed over the past year.
Speaker #3: Compared with $57 million in the second quarter of 2025, fee-based revenue has shown solid year-over-year progress. This quarter's improvement was primarily driven by higher trust revenues, reflecting onboarding activity related to RNH during the period.
Speaker #3: This benefit was partially offset by lower foreign exchange revenue due to reduced transaction volumes and lower banking fees. Overall, the results highlight the resilience of the bank's fee income franchise, with non-interest income providing a meaningful component to net interest income.
Michael Schrum: Overall, the results highlight the resilience of the bank's fee income franchise with non-interest income providing a meaningful component to net interest income. The fee income ratio of 40% compares favorably with historical peer averages, underscoring the strength and diversification of the organization's revenue base. On slide nine, we present core non-interest expenses. Core non-interest expenses increased to $92.9 million in Q2 2026, up 3.3% from the prior quarter, primarily reflecting the new expenses from the recently acquired RNH Guernsey business. Higher salaries and benefits, technology and communications expenses, property cost, and amortization of intangibles contributed to the increase. We would expect a continued quarterly core expense run rate of $93 to $95 million until the closing of the CIBC Caribbean transaction in H1 next year. Despite the higher expense base, operating efficiency remains strong.
Speaker #3: The fee income ratio of 40% compares favorably with historical peer averages, underscoring the strength and diversification of the organization's revenue base. On slide nine, we present core non-interest expenses.
Speaker #3: Core non-interest expenses increased to 92.9 million dollars in the second quarter of 2026, up 3.3% from the prior quarter, primarily reflecting the new expenses from the recently acquired RNH currency business.
Speaker #3: Higher salaries and benefits, technology and communications expenses, property cost and amortization of intangibles contributed to the increase. We would expect a continued quarterly core expense run rate of 93 to 95 million dollars, until the closing of the CIBC Caribbean transaction in the first half of next year.
Speaker #3: Despite the higher expense base, operating efficiency remained strong. The bank's core efficiency ratio was 57%, slightly higher than the prior quarter’s 56.4%, but still comfortably better than management's through-cycle target of 60%.
Michael Schrum: The bank's core efficiency ratio was 57%, slightly higher than the prior quarter's 56.4%, but still comfortably better than management's through cycle target of 60%. Slide 10 shows Butterfield's balance sheet remains strong and is stable in Q2 2026, with total assets increasing 2% to $14.3 billion from year-end 2025. Growth was primarily driven from higher balances in short-term investments while the loan portfolio increased modestly to $4.4 billion and the investment portfolio remained largely unchanged at $5.7 billion. The balance sheet continues to reflect a conservative asset mix supported by substantial liquidity and a low-risk profile. Funding trends were also positive with period end deposits rising to $12.9 billion from $12.7 billion at year-end, and average deposits increasing to $13.1 billion during the quarter. The bank maintained a low-risk density of 27.9%, underscoring the quality of its balance sheet.
Speaker #3: Slide ten shows Butterfield's balance sheet remained strong and is stable in the second quarter of 2026, with total assets increasing 2% to $14.3 billion from year-end 2025.
Speaker #3: Growth was primarily driven by higher balances in short-term investments, while the loan portfolio increased modestly to $4.4 billion and the investment portfolio remained largely unchanged at $5.7 billion.
Speaker #3: The balance sheet continues to reflect a conservative asset mix, supported by substantial liquidity and a low risk profile. Funding trends were also positive, with period-end deposits rising to $12.9 billion from $12.7 billion at year-end, and average deposits increasing to $13.1 billion during the quarter.
Speaker #3: The Bank maintained a low risk density of 27.9%, underscoring the quality of its balance sheet. Overall, the quarter was characterized by steady asset growth, strong deposit gathering, and continued balance sheet strength.
Michael Schrum: Overall, the quarter was characterized by steady asset growth, strong deposit gathering, and continued balance sheet strength. On slide 11, we show that Butterfield's asset quality remained strong in Q2 2026, supported by a conservative loan portfolio and high-quality investment holdings. The $4.4 billion loan portfolio is heavily weighted towards full recourse residential mortgages with nearly 79% of those mortgages carrying a loan-to-value ratio of below 70%, underscoring the low-risk profile of the book. The $5.7 billion investment portfolio also remained exceptionally strong with 100% rated double A or better, reflecting a highly liquid and investment-grade securities portfolio. Credit performance remained resilient despite a modest increase in non-accrual loans to $96 million, or 2.2% of gross loans, up from 2.0% in the prior quarter, primarily driven by residential real estate exposures in the Channel Islands and UK segment.
Speaker #3: On slide eleven, we show that Butterfield's asset quality remained strong in the second quarter of 2026, supported by a conservative loan portfolio and high-quality investment holdings.
Speaker #3: The $4.4 billion loan portfolio is heavily weighted towards full recourse residential mortgages, with nearly 79% of those mortgages carrying a loan-to-value ratio below 70%, underscoring the low-risk profile of the book.
Speaker #3: The $5.7 billion investment portfolio also remained exceptionally strong, with 100% rated AA or better, reflecting a highly liquid and investment-grade securities portfolio. Credit performance remained resilient, despite a modest increase in non-accrual loans to $96 million, or 2.2% of gross loans, up from 2.0% in the prior quarter, primarily driven by residential real estate exposures in the Channel Islands and UK segment.
Speaker #2: Importantly, the allowance for credit losses remained stable at 27.8 million dollars, representing 0.6% of total loans, while the net charge-up ratio remained effectively zero, highlighting the continued strength of the bank's underwriting standards and overall credit quality.
Michael Schrum: Importantly, the allowance for credit losses remained stable at $27.8 million, representing 0.6% of total loans, while the net charge-off ratio remained effectively zero, highlighting the continued strength of the bank's underwriting standards and overall credit quality. On slide 12, we present the average cash and securities balances with a summary of interest rate sensitivity. Butterfield continued to maintain a balanced interest rate profile with meaningful earnings upside in a rising rate environment. The investment portfolio duration declined to 4.7 years as fixed rate securities matured. We estimate that a 100 basis point increase in interest rates would increase net interest income by 3.4%, while a 200 basis point increase would increase net interest income by 6.9%. Net unrealized losses on available-for-sale securities increased to $106.7 million at 30 June 2026, from $99.7 million at the end of the previous quarter.
Speaker #3: On slide twelve, we present the average cash and securities balances with a summary of interest rate sensitivity. Butterfield continued to maintain a balanced interest rate profile, with meaningful earnings upside in a rising rate environment.
Speaker #3: The investment portfolio duration declined to 4.7 years as fixed-rate securities matured. We estimate that a 100 basis point increase in interest rates would increase net interest income by 3.4%, while a 200 basis point increase would increase net interest income by 6.9%.
Speaker #3: Net unrealized losses on available-for-sale securities increased to $106.7 million at June 30, 2026, from $99.7 million at the end of the previous quarter.
Speaker #3: However, as securities continue to mature and are reinvested, and as market rates evolve, management expects these unrealized losses to improve over time, with OCI projected to improve by approximately 20% over the next 12 months, and 43% over the next 24 months, based on current forward rate expectations.
Michael Schrum: As securities continue to mature and are reinvested, and as market rates evolve, management expects these unrealized losses to improve over time, with OCI projected to improve by approximately 20% over the next 12 months and 43% over the next 24 months based on current forward rate expectations. Slide 13 summarizes regulatory and leverage capital levels. The board of directors has once again approved a quarterly dividend of $0.50 per share. TCE to TA continues to be conservatively above our targeted range at 6 to 6.5%. I will now turn the call over to Bri Hidalgo to provide an update on the CIBC Caribbean transaction. Bree?
Speaker #3: Slide thirteen summarizes regulatory and leverage capital levels. The Board of Directors has once again approved a quarterly dividend of $0.50 per share. TCE to TA continues to be conservatively above our targeted range at 6% to 6.5%.
Speaker #3: I will now turn the call over to Bree Hidalgo, to provide an update on the CIBC Caribbean transaction. Bree.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Michael. Following our May 28 announcement of the agreement to acquire CIBC Caribbean, we have been making excellent progress toward closing, which we expect to be in the first half of 2027.
Bri Hidalgo: Thank you, Michael. Following our 28 May announcement of the agreement to acquire CIBC Caribbean, we've been making excellent progress towards closing, which we expect to be in the H1 2027. Our work streams are focusing on securing key regulatory, governance, financing, and stakeholder approvals required to complete the transaction and prepare for integration. Near-term priorities include filing and completing regulatory licensing applications, finalizing pro forma financials, obtaining board approval, and securing shareholder approval at the AGM in mid-September. In parallel, the team is working through creditor-related reverse diligence, jurisdictional stakeholder engagement across key Caribbean markets, and communication planning for clients, employees, and other stakeholders. A second major work stream is funding and transaction readiness. Refreshed CIBC Caribbean data is incorporated at key milestones, supporting pro forma updates and transaction analysis. These activities collectively aim to achieve closing requirements and maintain deal momentum through the approval process.
Speaker #4: Our workstreams are focusing on securing key regulatory, governance, financing, and stakeholder approvals required to complete the transaction and prepare for integration. Near-term priorities include filing and completing regulatory licensing applications, finalizing pro forma financials, obtaining board approval, and securing shareholder approval at the AGM in mid-September.
Speaker #4: In parallel, the team is working through creditor-related reverse diligence, jurisdictional stakeholder engagement across key Caribbean markets, and communication planning for clients, employees, and other stakeholders.
Speaker #4: A second major workstream is funding and transaction readiness. Refreshed CIBC Caribbean data is incorporated at key milestones, supporting pro forma updates and transaction analysis.
Speaker #4: These activities collectively aim to achieve closing requirements and maintain deal momentum through the approval process. Overall, we are moving forward at pace—first, securing approvals and transaction prerequisites, then advancing financing and stakeholder engagement activities, while building the operational and TSA framework needed for closing and eventual post-closing integration.
Bri Hidalgo: Overall, we are moving forward at pace. First, securing approvals and transaction prerequisites, advancing financing and stakeholder engagement activities while building the operational and TSA framework needed for closing and eventual post-closing integration. We remain on schedule and currently expect all required milestones to be achieved. I would like to add that financial performance of both companies remains on track and consistent with financial projections underlying the acquisition model. I will now turn the call back to Michael Collins.
Speaker #4: We remain on schedule and currently expect all required milestones to be achieved. Finally, I would like to add that the financial performance of both companies remains on track and consistent with the financial projections underlying the acquisition model.
Speaker #4: I will now turn the call back to Michael Collins.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Bree. Before we open for Q&A, I just want to reiterate how excited we are to strengthen and grow Butterfield to the CIBC Caribbean acquisition.
Michael Collins: Thank you, Bree. Before we open for Q&A, I just want to reiterate how excited we are to strengthen and grow Butterfield through the CIBC Caribbean acquisition. The combination of Butterfield and CIBC Caribbean creates a leading independent banking platform across the Atlantic and English-speaking Caribbean, anchored by top-tier market positions in our current markets of Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, and diversification and scale through an expanded presence across nine new key international financial centers, including Barbados and the Bahamas. The pro forma organization's expanded capabilities are expected to provide enhanced corporate, personal, and wealth management services across our combined client bases and to the benefit of all stakeholders. The pro forma combined bank is expected to have approximately $29 billion in assets, $25 billion in deposits, $1.7 billion of tangible common equity, and more than $400 million of run rate earnings.
Speaker #1: The combination of Butterfield and CIBC Caribbean creates a leading independent banking platform across the Atlantic and English-speaking Caribbean, anchored by top-tier market positions in our current markets of Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, and providing diversification and scale through an expanded presence across nine new key international financial centers, including Barbados and the Bahamas.
Speaker #1: The pro forma organization's expanded capabilities are expected to provide enhanced corporate, personal, and wealth management services across our combined client bases, and to the benefit of all stakeholders.
Speaker #1: The pro forma combined bank is expected to have approximately $29 billion in assets, $25 billion in deposits, $1.7 billion of tangible common equity, and more than $400 million of run-rate earnings.
Speaker #1: This positions the company among the largest independent banks in the region, with a balance sheet significantly larger than most Caribbean peers, and a stronger platform for growth and profitability.
Michael Schrum: This positions the company among the largest independent banks in the region, with a balance sheet significantly larger than most Caribbean peers and a stronger platform for growth and profitability. As we look ahead, we remain confident in the strength of our franchise, the quality of our balance sheet, and the opportunities before us. While the operating environment continues to evolve, our strategy remains unchanged, delivering sustainable earnings growth, maintaining disciplined risk and capital management, investing in our businesses, and creating long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you. With that, we'd be happy to take your questions. Operator?
Speaker #1: As we look ahead, we remain confident in the strength of our franchise, the quality of our balance sheet, and the opportunities before us. While the operating environment continues to evolve, our strategy remains unchanged.
Speaker #1: Delivering sustainable earnings growth, maintaining disciplined risk and capital management, investing in our businesses, and creating long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you, and with that, we'd be happy to take your questions.
Speaker #1: Operator?
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Operator: If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star and then two. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. The first question will come from David Feaster with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. The first question will come from David Feaster with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning, everybody.
David Feaster: Hey, good morning, everybody.
Speaker #1: Hey, David.
Michael Schrum: Morning, David.
Speaker #6: I wanted to touch a bit on the deposit side. Y'all have done a great job managing deposit costs. I was hoping to get your thoughts on the deposit backdrop and the competitive landscape across your jurisdictions.
David Feaster: I wanted to touch a bit on the deposit side. Y'all have done a great job managing deposit costs. I was hoping to get your thoughts on the deposit backdrop and the competitive landscape across your jurisdictions. It sounds like you think you're going to be able to keep funding costs relatively stable near term, but just wanted to get your thoughts there and any update on those temporary deposits that you've been expecting to flow out.
Speaker #6: And it sounds like you think you're going to be able to keep funding costs relatively stable near term, but I just wanted to get your thoughts there, and any update on those temporary deposits that you've been expecting to flow out.
Speaker #1: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, David. It's Michael Schrum. yeah, I mean, they keep hanging around. I think the businesses have done a very good job at, you know, focusing on cost of deposits and managing client expectations.
Michael Schrum: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, David. It's Michael Schrum. Yeah, they keep hanging around. I think the businesses have done a very good job at focusing on cost of deposits and managing client expectations. Going forward with the rate outlook, that may be leading to more difficult conversations, but I think so far so good. I think the deposit gathering is still something that's a focus for us, obviously, as we can see the earnings coming through. I think the temporary deposits are still hanging around for a little bit. The reason why our cash and short-term securities is quite elevated at the moment is partly because obviously we don't behavioralize those deposits, and we continue to expect that they're going to flow out at some point. The other thing that's impacting a little bit is obviously FX movements in the balance sheet, particularly from sterling.
Speaker #1: You know, going forward with the rate outlook, that may lead to more difficult conversations, but I think so far so good.
Speaker #1: In terms of that, I think deposit gathering is still something that's a focus for us, obviously, as we can see the earnings coming through.
Speaker #1: I think the temporary deposits are still, yeah, hanging around for a little bit, but we're, you know the reason why our cash and short-term securities is quite elevated at the moment is partly because, obviously, we don't behavioralize those deposits, and we continue to expect that they're going to flow out at some point.
Speaker #1: The other thing that's impacting a little bit is, obviously, FX movements in the balance sheet, particularly from sterling. As you know, we have about 22% of our deposits in sterling, and, you know, that FX rate has remained relatively stable.
Michael Schrum: As you know, we have about 22% of our deposits in sterling, and that FX rate has remained relatively stable, as you can see in the deck. Not much movement there, but if that were to move again, that could impact deposit levels and come back sort of over the average life of the deposit, if you will.
Speaker #1: As you can see in the deck, so not much movement there, but if that were to move again, that could impact deposit levels and come back sort of over the average life of the deposit, if you will.
Speaker #6: Okay. That's helpful. and then, you know, Michael Collins, you know, you talked about providing more enhanced services and products to your clients. I guess, as you step back, you know, after the deal, as you step back and think about the combined company, and you've gotten to dig in further since the announcement, is there anything that this combined company's not going to have that you need to build out?
David Feaster: Okay. That's helpful. Michael Collins, you talked about providing more enhanced services and products to your clients. I guess as you step back after the deal, as you step back and think about the combined company and you've gotten to dig in further since the announcement, is there anything that this combined company's not going to have that you need to build out? Are there any products or services that you might need to be upgraded as you look to provide maybe some more sophisticated products? Just in your attempt to more fully service your clients because of the materially larger platform, just kind of curious if there's anything that needs to be upgraded or added.
Speaker #6: Are there any products or services that you might need to upgrade as you, you know, look to provide maybe some more sophisticated products, or just in your attempt to more fully service your clients because of the materially larger platform?
Speaker #6: Just kind of curious if there's anything that needs to be upgraded or added.
Speaker #1: That's a good question. We're just getting to know their systems and technology franchise, which has actually been really quite good. So we're looking at both our systems and their systems.
Michael Schrum: Good question. We're just getting to know their systems and technology franchise, which is actually really quite good. We're looking at both our systems and their systems. They've got great online banking. They're very digital. Their Caribbean is very digital. They've got great products and services. I think there's more we can do on the wealth management side, both within Butterfield and the broader platform, just in terms of providing more services. Online banking they have is good. We're focused on right now just improving our online banking, just sort of the look and feel. The technology is great, straight through wire transfers, FX transactions in any currency anywhere in the world immediately without anyone touching it. We have all that, but we really are focused on look and feel of the technology now that we've got all that in place.
Speaker #1: They've got great online banking. They're very digital. The Caribbean is very digital, so they've got great products and services. I think there's more we can do on the wealth management side, both within Butterfield and the broader platform, just in terms of providing more services.
Speaker #1: Online banking, they have as good. We're focused on, right now, just improving our online banking, just sort of the look and feel. So the technology is great.
Speaker #1: You know, straight through wire transfers, FX transactions, and any currency, anywhere in the world, immediately without anyone touching it. We have all that, but we really are focused on look and feel of the technology now that we've got all that in place.
Speaker #1: But I think the combination of the two organizations, you know, it's a broad array of products. They have more corporate products than we have.
Michael Schrum: I think the combination of the two organizations, it's a broad array of products. They have more corporate products than we have. They do a little bit of investment banking, which we don't do. I think we're going to be able to provide huge suite of services to corporates, retail, and high net worth across the region. Yeah. David, it's Michael Schrum. I'll just add, obviously they do have a sizable trust company in Bahamas and Cayman, which we'll combine obviously over time with our trust company. That adds some scale to that business. I think it's fair to say we are a trust bank, and so I think we will definitely focus on that and distribution to clients. The added scale of the company is going to add some new opportunities for our corporate clients in Bermuda that we haven't been able to serve properly before.
Speaker #1: They do a little bit of investment banking, which we don't do. So I think we're going to be able to provide a huge, huge suite of services to, you know, corporates, retail, high-net-worth across the region.
Speaker #2: Yeah, David, it's Michael Schrum. I'll just add, obviously, they do have a sizable trust company in Bahamas and Cayman, which we'll combine, obviously, over time with our trust company.
Speaker #2: So that adds some scale to that business. And I think it's fair to say, you know, we are a trust bank, and so I think we will definitely focus on that and distribution to clients.
Speaker #2: The added scale of the company is going to create some new opportunities for our corporate clients in Bermuda, which we haven’t been able to serve properly before.
Speaker #2: It's difficult to quantify, and we obviously haven't included anything in the projections, but there are meaningful opportunities. I think, on the flip side, there are some things that they may be doing that we need to have a closer look at to see whether we would like to continue those—like equity options trading—or whether we want to partner up with CRBC post-close and kind of allow customers to transact through us onto their balance sheet.
Michael Schrum: It's difficult to quantify, and we obviously haven't included anything in the projections, but there are meaningful opportunities. I think on the flip side, there are some things that they may be doing that we need to have a closer look at to see whether we would like to continue those, like equity options trading, or whether we want to partner up with CIBC post-close and kind of allow customers to transact through us onto their balance sheet. There's a lot to do, but definitely pretty positive on the wealth side.
Speaker #2: So yeah, there's a lot to do, but definitely the pretty positive on the wealth side.
Speaker #6: That's extremely helpful, thank you. I just wanted to get a pulse on the housing markets and updates on your residential mortgage book. We saw a slight increase in non-accruals.
David Feaster: That's extremely helpful. Thank you. Just I wanted to get a pulse on the housing markets and updates on your resi mortgage book. We saw a slight increase in non-accruals. Obviously, that book is extremely well underwritten, like you highlighted, with low levels of leverage. Are there any jurisdictions that are seeing more pressure? Just how underlying borrowers are holding up and the health of that book broadly.
Speaker #6: Obviously, that book is extremely well underwritten, like you highlighted. With low levels of leverage, but are there any jurisdictions that are seeing more pressure?
Speaker #6: And just how underlying borrowers are holding up, and the health of that book, broadly.
Speaker #5: Hey, it's Brie. I'll take that. Yeah, so as you would guess, you know, we continue to watch the Channel Islands as specifically the UK market.
Bri Hidalgo: Hey, it's Brie. I'll take that. As you would guess, we continue to watch the Channel Islands, specifically the UK market. Clearly, there's been softening in that market over time, and that's where you see isolated incidents where we have increased non-accrual loans, even though non-performing loans improved quarter-over-quarter significantly. We are watching the UK market very closely. The good news is those portfolios have very low LTVs, we have headroom with respect to performance and/or any softening of the markets and property valuations. That is the space that we're looking at.
Speaker #5: Clearly, there's been softening in that market over time. And that's where you see isolated incidents where we have increased non-accrual loans even though non-performing loans approved quarter over quarter significantly.
Speaker #5: So, we are watching the UK market very closely. The good news is those portfolios have very low LTVs, and so we have headroom with respect to performance and/or any softening of the markets and property valuations.
Speaker #5: But that is the space that we're looking at.
Speaker #1: Yeah, and then I would just add—sorry, David, it's Michael Schrum. Bermuda, the Bermuda market is very vibrant right now with multiple offers; probably as strong a recovery as I have seen in my 25 years of banking here.
Michael Schrum: I would just add, sorry, David, it's Michael Schrum. The Bermuda market is very vibrant right now with multiple offers, probably as strong a recovery as I have seen in my 25 years of banking here. There was a post-GFC kind of lull, it seems to be really picking up with new international businesses setting up. Cayman is sort of cooling off a little bit. Still a very vibrant market in terms of number of transactions. I think the Bermuda market is a bit tougher for us to get into because there's a lot of cash transactions in the market. Certainly, in terms of the robustness of the price discovery is very good.
Speaker #1: There was a post-GFC kind of lull, and now it seems to be really picking up, with new international businesses setting up. Cayman is sort of cooling off a little bit.
Speaker #1: But, you know, it's still a very vibrant market in terms of the number of transactions. I think the Bermuda market is a bit tougher for us to get into because there are a lot of cash transactions in the market.
Speaker #1: But certainly, in terms of the robustness of the price discovery, it's very good.
Speaker #3: I would just add in the Channel Islands and Guernsey, New Jersey, we're still continuing to build out our retail or sort of mass affluent bank without branches.
Michael Collins: I'd just add in the Channel Islands and Guernsey and Jersey, we're still continuing to build out our retail or our sort of mass affluent bank without branches. We don't have to have a huge platform, but we have about GBP 650 million deposits and about GBP 350 million mortgage books. That's gone quite well, and it's actually becoming much more of a sticky deposit retail bank than we thought we would be able to at this point. That's good.
Speaker #3: So we don't have to have a huge platform, but we have about £650 million sterling deposits and about £350 million sterling mortgage book.
Speaker #3: So that's gone quite well and has actually becoming much more of a, you know, sticky deposit retail bank than we thought we would be able to do at this point.
Speaker #3: So that's good.
Speaker #6: That's awesome. Thanks, everybody.
David Feaster: That's awesome. Thanks, everybody.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Michael Collins: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Again, if you have a question, please press star and then one. The next question will come from Emily Lee with KBW. Please go ahead.
Operator: Again, if you have a question, please press star and then one. The next question will come from Emily Lee with KBW. Please go ahead. Emily, your line's open on our end. It might be muted on yours.
Speaker #4: Emily, your line is open on our end. It might be muted on your side.
Speaker #5: Hey, everyone, sorry about that. This is Emily stepping in for Tim Switzer. Thanks for taking my question, guys.
Emily Lee: Hey, everyone. Sorry about that. This is Emily stepping in for Tim Switzer. Thanks for taking my question, guys.
Speaker #1: Sure. Good morning.
Michael Collins: Sure. Good morning.
Speaker #5: Yeah, so as it relates to CIBC transaction, can you just walk us through some of the dynamics across these new jurisdictions outside of your legacy markets?
Emily Lee: Yeah. As it relates to the CIBC transaction, can you just walk us through some of the dynamics across these new jurisdictions outside of your legacy markets? Maybe just an update on what you've been seeing and where do you expect the most opportunity to come from? I believe the Barbados economy appears to be improving, maybe just discuss some dynamics around there.
Speaker #5: Maybe just an update on what you've been seeing and where do you expect, you know, the most opportunity to come from? I believe the Barbados economy appears to be improving, so maybe just discuss some dynamics around there.
Speaker #7: Hey, Emily, this is Brie Hidalgo. I'll take that. So since we last spoke, what we've been focusing on primarily is the regulatory applications and filings.
Bri Hidalgo: Hey, Emily. This is Bri Hidalgo. I'll take that. Since we last spoke, what we've been focusing on primarily is the regulatory applications and filings. That's a critical step in the closure process. We successfully completed the first round. We went on-site with our local management team and met with a number of the executive leaders domestically within Barbados and Bahamas, and received positive feedback, not only from our initial regulatory interactions, but also our team member interactions. We're on point and on task to complete under our existing timeline. All positive movement forward there. Back to working with the local teams, yeah, we have seen that they continue to have a robust credit book. They have great underwriting criteria and standards, and we can see that within their financial performance figures. Everything's holding up and working well.
Speaker #7: That's a critical step in the closure process. So we successfully completed the first round. We went on-site with our local management team and met with a number of the executive leaders domestically within Barbados and the Bahamas.
Speaker #7: And we've received positive feedback, not only from our initial regulatory interactions, but also from our team member interactions. So we're on point and on task to complete under our existing timeline.
Speaker #7: So all positive movement forward there. With respect to working with the local teams, yeah, we have seen that, you know, they continue to have a robust credit book.
Speaker #7: They have great underwriting criteria and standards, and we can see that within their financial performance figures. So everything's holding up, and we're working well.
Speaker #1: Yeah, hey Emily, Michael Schrum. I'll just add to that. Obviously, we've been primarily focused on the larger components of the transaction, and there's still some discovery for us on some of the smaller items.
Michael Schrum: Yeah. Hey, Emily. It's Michael Schrum. I'll just add to that. Obviously, we've been primarily focused on the larger components of the transaction, and there's still some discovery for us on some of the small islands. No doubt we'll find some jewels in there. Certainly, Barbados, very robust, sort of a pivot towards more retail residential mirroring our existing platform. We would expect that over the sort of medium term. Great opportunities, very positive feedback from Barbados as well. Bahamas, we'll go in with a 25% market share. Cayman, obviously, consolidating what we already have onto the combined platform. That brings some scale to the business. Some of the smaller markets are under review, shall we say. I think definitely there's going to be positive developments there.
Speaker #1: No doubt we’ll find some jewels in there, but certainly, Barbados is very robust. It’s sort of a pivot towards more retail residential, mirroring our existing platform.
Speaker #1: We would expect that over the sort of medium term. But great opportunities, very positive feedback from Barbados as well. In Bahamas, we'll go in with a 25% market share, and in Cayman, obviously, consolidating what we already have onto the combined platform.
Speaker #1: So, you know, that brings some scale to the business. I would—some of the smaller markets are under review, shall we say—but I think definitely there's going to be positive developments there.
Speaker #1: And I think the team on the ground, certainly in Barbados, very positive about the network effect as well.
Michael Schrum: I think the team on the ground, certainly in Barbados, very positive about the network effect as well.
Speaker #3: Yeah, I'll just add that if you look across all the islands, sort of the post-COVID recovery—and Barbados, obviously, had the IMF step in.
Michael Collins: Yeah. I'd just add that if you look at across all the islands, sort of the post-COVID recovery, and Barbados obviously had the IMF step in. They're all doing quite well. Barbados is really recovering, growing well. Bahamas, from a tourism perspective, is just amazing. Every time you go drive from the airport, it's like a different place. A lot of money flowing there. Cayman will have a substantial market share, and we obviously know that market pretty well. Really good market shares across the jurisdiction. I think the timing is really great in the sense that they're all recovering, and they're all growing. I think it's a perfect time to do it.
Speaker #3: But they're all doing quite well. I mean, Barbados is really recovering, growing well. Bahamas, from a tourism perspective, is just amazing. Every time you drive from the airport, it's like a different place.
Speaker #3: So a lot of money flowing there. And Cayman will have a substantial market share, and we obviously know that market pretty well. So really good market shares across the jurisdictions.
Speaker #3: I think the timing is really great in the sense that they're all recovering and they're all growing, so I think it's a perfect time to do it.
Speaker #5: That's really helpful. Thank you. And then just on capital deployment, you noted plans to kind of focus on organic growth post-CIBC with buybacks likely remaining on pause or at, I guess, lower levels post-close.
Emily Lee: That's really helpful. Thank you. Just on capital deployment, you noted plans to kind of focus on organic growth post CIBC with buybacks likely remaining on pause or at, I guess, lower levels post-close. Would you be comfortable returning to buybacks once the total capital ratio returns to the low 20% range that you target? What are the puts and takes there on capital deployment?
Speaker #5: But would you be comfortable to returning to buybacks once the total capital ratio returns to the low 20% range that you target? And what does puts and takes there on capital deployment?
Speaker #1: Yeah, I mean, I think we've been very strong in terms of saying that we know we need to raise some financing here. Our preference is obviously having as much set one as possible and boost our, you know, confirm our ratings on that basis.
Michael Schrum: I think we've been very strong in terms of saying that we know we need to raise some financing here. Our preference is obviously having as much CET1 as possible and confirm our ratings on that basis. In terms of making this a reality, there is a need to go to financing on the subordinated debt market, which we are preparing for and will likely do in Q4 after the shareholder vote, et cetera. I think the capital priorities you should expect over the medium term to return to what they are now. There's a bit of debt to unwind over time. We're evaluating the impact of the new incoming corporate income tax regime as well. If there's some benefiting having some leverage on the balance sheet. There will certainly be many more updates in the future.
Speaker #1: But, you know, in terms of making this a reality, there is a need to go to financing. On the subordinate debt market, which we'll are preparing for and we'll likely do in Q4 after the shelter vote, et cetera.
Speaker #1: So, I think the capital priorities—you should expect, over the medium term, to return to what they are now. And there's a bit of debt to unwind over time.
Speaker #1: We're evaluating the impact of the new incoming corporate income tax regime as well, if there's some benefit in having some leverage on the balance sheet.
Speaker #1: So there will certainly be many more updates in the future. But yeah, I mean, low 20s sound like a good number to kind of put a modest buyback in to help the capital return story again.
Michael Schrum: Low 20s sound like a good number to kind of put a modest buyback in to help the capital return story again. Near term, we are just building. Obviously, this quarter, we had RNH. We had some buyback before pausing in May. Next couple quarters, we should expect sort of significant capital build, and then we'll just see how the earnings profile goes. Our aim is ultimately to reflect the ROE of the combined entity back to the shareholders in the form of either dividends, so it could be a review of the dividend rate, or starting the buyback once we get into a comfortable sort of 20-plus zone.
Speaker #1: But near term, we're just building obviously this quarter we had RNH and so that and we had some buyback before pausing in May. So next couple of quarters we should expect sort of significant capital build.
Speaker #1: And then we'll just see how the earnings profile goes. But our aim is ultimately to reflect the earnings of the combined entity back to the shareholders in the form of either dividends.
Speaker #1: So it could be a review of the dividend rate or starting the buyback once we get into a comfortable, sort of 20-plus zone.
Speaker #5: That's great. Thank you for taking my questions, guys, and congrats on the quarter.
Emily Lee: That's great. Thank you for taking my questions, guys, and congrats on the quarter.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Michael Collins: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks.
Michael Schrum: Thanks.
Speaker #2: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Noah Fields for any closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Noah Fields for any closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Nick, and thanks to everyone for dialing in today. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Have a great day.
Noah Fields: Thank you, Nick, and thanks to everyone for dialing in today. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Have a great day.
Operator: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.