Q2 2026 Equinox Gold Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Equinox Gold Q2 2026 results conference call and corporate update. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded.
Operator 3: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Equinox Gold Q2 2026 Results Conference Call and Corporate Update. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there'll be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're participating through the webcast, you can submit a question in writing using the form in the lower section of the webcast frame. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ingrid Rico, SVP Capital Markets for Equinox Gold. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Equinox Gold Q2 2026 Results Conference Call and Corporate Update. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there'll be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're participating through the webcast, you can submit a question in writing using the form in the lower section of the webcast frame. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ingrid Rico, SVP Capital Markets for Equinox Gold. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to Ingrid Rico, SVP Capital Markets for Equinox Gold. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the time to join the call this morning. Before we begin, I would like to direct everyone to the forward-looking statements on slide number 2.
Ingrid Rico: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the time to join the call this morning. Before we begin, I would like to direct everyone to the forward-looking statements on slide number two. Our remarks today, including responses during the question-and-answer session, may include forward-looking information regarding the company's future performance. Although management believes the statements are based on reasonable assumptions, actual results may differ materially. Please refer to today's cautionary statements and our most recent regulatory filings available on SEDAR+, EDGAR, and our website. Today's presentations also includes certain non-IFRS financial measures. Please refer to our MD&A for reconciliations and additional information. Unless otherwise stated, all figures discussed today are in US dollars. Joining me on the call today are Darren Hall, Chief Executive Officer, Jason Simpson, President, Peter Hardie, Chief Financial Officer, and our operating team, David Schummer and Andrew Cormier.
Ingrid Rico: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the time to join the call this morning. Before we begin, I would like to direct everyone to the forward-looking statements on slide number two. Our remarks today, including responses during the question-and-answer session, may include forward-looking information regarding the company's future performance. Although management believes the statements are based on reasonable assumptions, actual results may differ materially. Please refer to today's cautionary statements and our most recent regulatory filings available on SEDAR+, EDGAR, and our website. Today's presentations also includes certain non-IFRS financial measures. Please refer to our MD&A for reconciliations and additional information. Unless otherwise stated, all figures discussed today are in US dollars. Joining me on the call today are Darren Hall, Chief Executive Officer, Jason Simpson, President, Peter Hardie, Chief Financial Officer, and our operating team, David Schummer and Andrew Cormier.
Speaker #2: Our remarks today including responses during the question-and-answer session may include forward-looking information regarding companies' future performance. Although management believes the statements are based on reasonable assumptions, actual results may differ materially.
Speaker #2: Please refer to today's cautionary statements and our most recent regulatory filings available on Cedar Plas, Edgar, and our website. Today's presentations also includes certain non-IFRS financial measures.
Speaker #2: Please refer to our MD&A for reconciliations and additional information. Unless otherwise stated, all figures discussed today are in US dollars. Joining me on the call today are Darren Hall, Chief Executive Officer; Jason Simpson, President; Peter Hardy, Chief Financial Officer; and our Operating Team, David Schummer and Andrew Cormier.
Speaker #2: Today, Darren will discuss the quarter and our operational progress. Jason will review our updated outlook and priorities for the second half of the year, and then we'll open the call for questions.
Ingrid Rico: Today, Darren will discuss the quarter and our operational progress. Jason will review our updated outlook and priorities for the H2 of the year. Then we'll open the call for questions. The presentation is available on our website. A replay of today's webcast will be available in the presentation archive. With that, I'll pass the call over to Darren.
Ingrid Rico: Today, Darren will discuss the quarter and our operational progress. Jason will review our updated outlook and priorities for the H2 of the year. Then we'll open the call for questions. The presentation is available on our website. A replay of today's webcast will be available in the presentation archive. With that, I'll pass the call over to Darren.
Speaker #2: The presentation is available on our website and a replay of today's webcast will be available in the presentation archive. With that, I'll pass the call over to Darren.
Speaker #3: Turning to slide 3 and thanks, Ingrid. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. With the completion of the business combination with all the mining, we enter the second half of 2026 as North America's new senior gold producer.
Darren Hall: Turning to slide three, and thanks, Ingrid. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. With the completion of the business combination with Orla Mining, we enter the H2 of 2026 as North America's new senior gold producer, with meaningfully greater production, stronger cash flow, and one of the industry's strongest organic growth pipelines. The financial benefits of the combination will begin to be reflected in our Q3 results. Today's call will also highlight the continued operational progress we've made across the portfolio, particularly at Greenstone and Valentine. Our focus is now straightforward: disciplined integration, operational execution, and delivering the long-term value this transformational combination has created.
Darren Hall: Turning to slide three, and thanks, Ingrid. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. With the completion of the business combination with Orla Mining, we enter the H2 of 2026 as North America's new senior gold producer, with meaningfully greater production, stronger cash flow, and one of the industry's strongest organic growth pipelines. The financial benefits of the combination will begin to be reflected in our Q3 results. Today's call will also highlight the continued operational progress we've made across the portfolio, particularly at Greenstone and Valentine. Our focus is now straightforward: disciplined integration, operational execution, and delivering the long-term value this transformational combination has created.
Speaker #3: We're with meaningfully greater production, stronger cash flow, and one of the industry's strongest organic growth pipelines. The financial benefits of the combination will begin to be reflected in our third quarter results.
Speaker #3: But today's call will also highlight the continued operational progress we've made across the portfolio, particularly at Greenstone and Valentine. Our focus is now straightforward.
Speaker #3: Disciplined integration, operational execution, and delivering the long-term value this transformational combination has created. Before I discuss the quarter, I'd like to thank our employees across both Equinox and Orla, completing a transaction of this scale while continuing to operate safely is a tremendous accomplishment, and I appreciate everyone's commitment throughout the process.
Darren Hall: Before I discuss the quarter, I'd like to thank our employees across both Equinox and Orla. Completing a transaction of this scale while continuing to operate safely is a tremendous accomplishment. I appreciate everyone's commitment throughout the process. The combined company is built around a portfolio of high-quality, long-life assets anchored by three cornerstone Canadian mines, Greenstone, Musselwhite, and Valentine, supported by one of the strongest organic growth pipelines in the industry. Importantly, this isn't simply about becoming larger. It's about creating a stronger company with greater financial capacity, operating resilience, and maintaining a disciplined capital outlook to unlock long-term value creation. That confidence is also reflected in the actions we've taken today. The board approved a 50% increase to our annual dividend to $0.09 per share.
Darren Hall: Before I discuss the quarter, I'd like to thank our employees across both Equinox and Orla. Completing a transaction of this scale while continuing to operate safely is a tremendous accomplishment. I appreciate everyone's commitment throughout the process. The combined company is built around a portfolio of high-quality, long-life assets anchored by three cornerstone Canadian mines, Greenstone, Musselwhite, and Valentine, supported by one of the strongest organic growth pipelines in the industry. Importantly, this isn't simply about becoming larger. It's about creating a stronger company with greater financial capacity, operating resilience, and maintaining a disciplined capital outlook to unlock long-term value creation. That confidence is also reflected in the actions we've taken today. The board approved a 50% increase to our annual dividend to $0.09 per share.
Speaker #3: The combined company is built around a portfolio of high-quality, long-life assets anchored by three cornerstone Canadian mines: Greenstone, Muscle White, and Valentine. Supported by one of the strongest organic growth pipelines in the industry, importantly, this isn't simply about coming and becoming larger.
Speaker #3: It's about creating a stronger company with greater financial capacity, operating resilience, and maintaining a disciplined capital outlook to unlock long-term value creation. That confidence is also reflected in the actions we've taken today.
Speaker #3: The board approved a 50% increase to our annual dividend to $0.09 per share. As a larger, more cash-generative business, we believe it is an important that our shareholders participate directly in the value we're creating while maintaining the financial flexibility to invest in our growth pipeline and preserve a strong balance sheet.
Darren Hall: As a larger, more cash-generative business, we believe it is important that our shareholders participate directly in the value we're creating while maintaining the financial flexibility to invest in our growth pipeline and preserve a strong balance sheet. Turning to slide four. The Q2 reflected continued improvement across our Canadian operations and increased confidence in our outlook for the balance of the year. Greenstone continued to perform well, with the mill effectively achieving nameplate through the Q2. The team's focus is now on building on that performance while continuing to improve mining rates and grade delivery. At Valentine, we also saw another meaningful step forward. The process plant continued to perform exceptionally well, consistently delivering above nameplate capacity during the quarter.
Darren Hall: As a larger, more cash-generative business, we believe it is important that our shareholders participate directly in the value we're creating while maintaining the financial flexibility to invest in our growth pipeline and preserve a strong balance sheet. Turning to slide four. The Q2 reflected continued improvement across our Canadian operations and increased confidence in our outlook for the balance of the year. Greenstone continued to perform well, with the mill effectively achieving nameplate through the Q2. The team's focus is now on building on that performance while continuing to improve mining rates and grade delivery. At Valentine, we also saw another meaningful step forward. The process plant continued to perform exceptionally well, consistently delivering above nameplate capacity during the quarter.
Speaker #3: Turning to slide 4. The second quarter reflected continued improvement across our Canadian operations and increased confidence in our outlook, for the balance of the year.
Speaker #3: Greenstone continued to perform well with a mill effectively achieving nameplate through the second quarter. The team's focus is now on building on that performance while continuing to improve mining rates and grade delivery.
Speaker #3: At Valentine, we also saw another meaningful step forward. The process plant continued to perform exceptionally well, consistently delivering above nameplate capacity during the quarter.
Speaker #3: At the same time, improvements in mining performance or control and grade reconciliation resulted in significantly better performance compared to the first quarter, and that positive trend is continued into July.
Darren Hall: At the same time, improvements in mining performance, ore control, and grade reconciliation resulted in significantly better performance compared to Q1, that positive trend has continued into July. July mill feed grades averaged more than 1.8 grams per tonne, providing further evidence that the operational improvement initiatives are delivering the expected results. These improvements reinforce our confidence that the operating initiatives are working, we expect to see that reflected in stronger production and lower unit costs through the balance of the year. Together with Greenstone's continued ramp-up and the addition of Musselwhite, we expect our Canadian portfolio to deliver higher production, lower unit costs, and stronger cash flow through H2. The transaction also leaves us in a strong financial position.
Darren Hall: At the same time, improvements in mining performance, ore control, and grade reconciliation resulted in significantly better performance compared to Q1, that positive trend has continued into July. July mill feed grades averaged more than 1.8 grams per ton, providing further evidence that the operational improvement initiatives are delivering the expected results. These improvements reinforce our confidence that the operating initiatives are working, we expect to see that reflected in stronger production and lower unit costs through the balance of the year. Together with Greenstone's continued ramp-up and the addition of Musselwhite, we expect our Canadian portfolio to deliver higher production, lower unit costs, and stronger cash flow through H2. The transaction also leaves us in a strong financial position.
Speaker #3: July mill fee grades averaged more than 1.8 grams per ton, providing further evidence that the operational improvement initiatives are delivering the expected results. These improvements reinforce our confidence that the operating initiatives are working, and we expect to see that reflected in stronger production and lower unit costs through the balance of the year.
Speaker #3: Together with Greenstone's continued ramp-up and the addition of Muscle White, we expect our Canadian portfolio to deliver higher production, lower unit costs, and stronger cash flow through the second half of the year.
Speaker #3: The transaction also leaves us in a strong financial position. We finished July with approximately $650 million of cash, a net cash position of approximately $214 million, and approximately $1.2 billion of available liquidity.
Darren Hall: We finished July with approximately $650 million of cash, a net cash position of approximately $214 million, approximately $1.2 billion of available liquidity. That balance sheet gives us the flexibility to execute our growth strategy while maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Today's 50% dividend increase reflects our confidence in the cash-generating capability of the combined company and our commitment to return value to shareholders. With that, I'll pass the call over to Jason.
Darren Hall: We finished July with approximately $650 million of cash, a net cash position of approximately $214 million, approximately $1.2 billion of available liquidity. That balance sheet gives us the flexibility to execute our growth strategy while maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Today's 50% dividend increase reflects our confidence in the cash-generating capability of the combined company and our commitment to return value to shareholders. With that, I'll pass the call over to Jason.
Speaker #3: The that balance sheet gives us the flexibility to execute our growth strategy while maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Today's 50% dividend increase reflects our confidence in the cash-generating capability of the combined company and our commitment to return value to shareholders.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll pass the call over to Jason.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Darren. And good morning, everyone. Turning to slide 5. It's a pleasure to be joining you all on today's call. Since the transaction was announced, I've spent considerable time with our Operating Team to reviewing each asset.
Jason Simpson: Thank you, Darren, good morning, everyone. Turning to slide five. It's a pleasure to be joining you all on today's call. Since the transaction was announced, I've spent considerable time with our operating team for reviewing each asset, the operating plans, and the assumptions supporting our outlook for the balance of the year. Based on that work, I'm confident in the assumptions underpinning our updated guidance and comfortable with our ability to deliver it. Our updated guidance reflects 12 months of production from the legacy Equinox Gold operations and five months of contribution from Musselwhite and Camino Rojo following the completion of the transaction on 31 July. For 2026, we now expect consolidated production of between 870 and 920,000 ounces. On a pro forma basis, the combined company would produce approximately 1.1 million ounces of gold.
Jason Simpson: Thank you, Darren, good morning, everyone. Turning to slide five. It's a pleasure to be joining you all on today's call. Since the transaction was announced, I've spent considerable time with our operating team for reviewing each asset, the operating plans, and the assumptions supporting our outlook for the balance of the year. Based on that work, I'm confident in the assumptions underpinning our updated guidance and comfortable with our ability to deliver it. Our updated guidance reflects 12 months of production from the legacy Equinox Gold operations and five months of contribution from Musselwhite and Camino Rojo following the completion of the transaction on 31 July. For 2026, we now expect consolidated production of between 870 and 920,000 ounces. On a pro forma basis, the combined company would produce approximately 1.1 million ounces of gold.
Speaker #4: The Operating Plans and the Assumptions supporting our outlook for the balance of the year. Based on that work, I'm confident in the assumptions, underpinning our updated guidance, and comfortable with our ability to deliver it.
Speaker #4: Our updated guidance reflects 12 months of production from the legacy Equinox Gold operations and 5 months of contribution from Muscle White and Camino Rojo.
Speaker #4: Following July 31st. For 2026, we now expect consolidated production of between $870 and $920,000 ounces. On a pro forma basis, the combined company would produce approximately 1.1 million ounces of gold.
Speaker #4: The guidance reflects stronger second-half performance from Greenstone and Valentine, together with five months of production from Musselwhite and Camino Rojo. As production increases through the second half, we expect improved fixed cost absorption and lower unit costs.
Jason Simpson: The guidance reflects stronger H2 performance from Greenstone and Valentine, together with the five months of production from Musselwhite and Camino Rojo. As production increases through H2, we expect improved fixed cost absorption and lower unit costs. Combined with the addition of Musselwhite and Camino Rojo, that supports our expectation for consolidated total cash costs of $1,600 to 1,700 per ounce and all-in sustaining costs of $1,900 to 2,000 per ounce with stronger cash generation through the balance of the year. From my perspective, the opportunity over H2 is really about execution. The operating plans are in place. The teams understand the priorities at each site, our focus is on safely delivering against those plans while maintaining discipline around costs and capital allocation. As Darren mentioned, at Valentine, the process plant continues to perform exceptionally well and has consistently demonstrated throughput above nameplate capacity.
Jason Simpson: The guidance reflects stronger H2 performance from Greenstone and Valentine, together with the five months of production from Musselwhite and Camino Rojo. As production increases through H2, we expect improved fixed cost absorption and lower unit costs. Combined with the addition of Musselwhite and Camino Rojo, that supports our expectation for consolidated total cash costs of $1,600 to 1,700 per ounce and all-in sustaining costs of $1,900 to 2,000 per ounce with stronger cash generation through the balance of the year. From my perspective, the opportunity over H2 is really about execution. The operating plans are in place. The teams understand the priorities at each site, our focus is on safely delivering against those plans while maintaining discipline around costs and capital allocation. As Darren mentioned, at Valentine, the process plant continues to perform exceptionally well and has consistently demonstrated throughput above nameplate capacity.
Speaker #4: Combined with the addition of Muscle White and Camino Rojo, that supports our expectation for consolidated total cash costs of $1,600 to $1,700 per ounce and all in sustaining costs of $1,900 to $2,000 per ounce.
Speaker #4: With stronger cash generation through the balance of the year. From my perspective, the opportunity over the second half is really about execution. The Operating Plans are in place.
Speaker #4: The team's understand the priorities at each site, and our focus is on safely delivering against those plans while maintaining discipline around costs and capital allocation.
Speaker #4: As Darren mentioned, at Valentine, the process plant continues to perform exceptionally well, and has consistently demonstrated throughput above nameplate capacity. The Opportunity Now is continuing to improve mining performance and grade delivery.
Jason Simpson: The opportunity now is continuing to improve mining performance and grade delivery. The initiatives the team has implemented around selective mining, ore control, grade definition, dilution management, and blending are beginning to deliver the expected results. We saw meaningful high-grade reconciliation during Q2 compared to Q1, and that positive trend, as Darren mentioned, continued into July. In July, as indicated earlier, mill feed averaged approximately 1.8 grams per tonne gold, providing further evidence that the operational improvements are transitioning and translating into stronger mill feed and positioning us well for H2. There is still work ahead of us, but we are encouraged by the progress we have been seeing. As we continue executing those initiatives, we have been increasing our confidence in our ability to deliver full-year guidance and continue realizing the full potential at Valentine.
Jason Simpson: The opportunity now is continuing to improve mining performance and grade delivery. The initiatives the team has implemented around selective mining, ore control, grade definition, dilution management, and blending are beginning to deliver the expected results. We saw meaningful high-grade reconciliation during Q2 compared to Q1, and that positive trend, as Darren mentioned, continued into July. In July, as indicated earlier, mill feed averaged approximately 1.8 grams per tonne gold, providing further evidence that the operational improvements are transitioning and translating into stronger mill feed and positioning us well for H2. There is still work ahead of us, but we are encouraged by the progress we have been seeing. As we continue executing those initiatives, we have been increasing our confidence in our ability to deliver full-year guidance and continue realizing the full potential at Valentine.
Speaker #4: The initiatives the team has implemented around selective mining or control grade definition, dilution management, and blending are beginning to deliver the expected results. We saw meaningful high-grade reconciliation during the second quarter compared to the first, and that positive trend, as Darren mentioned, continued into July.
Speaker #4: In July, as indicated earlier, mill feed averaged approximately 1.8 grams per ton gold. Providing further evidence that the operational improvements are transitioning and translating into a stronger mill feed and positioning us well for the second half.
Speaker #4: There are still work ahead of us, but we are encouraged by the progress we have been seeing. As we continue executing those initiatives, we have been increasing our confidence in our ability to deliver full-year guidance and continue realizing the full potential at Valentine.
Speaker #4: Overall, I'm confident with the Operating Plans across the combined portfolio, and confident in our ability to deliver a stronger second half. Turning to slide 6.
Jason Simpson: Overall, I'm confident with the operating plans across the combined portfolio and confident in our ability to deliver a stronger H2. Turning to Slide 6. The completion of the Orla transaction fundamentally changes the scale and quality of Equinox Gold. We now have a stronger operating platform, greater financial capability, and one of the industry's strongest organic growth pipelines. Our immediate focus needs to be execution. That means delivering on our H2 operating plans, achieving our full-year production and cost guidance, and successfully integrating the combined organization while maintaining the operational momentum we have built. Looking beyond 2026, we have a portfolio of high-quality assets and a pipeline of organic growth opportunities that provides a clear path for long-term value creation. We'll continue advancing those opportunities in a disciplined and measured way, prioritizing the projects that generate the strongest returns while maintaining financial flexibility.
Jason Simpson: Overall, I'm confident with the operating plans across the combined portfolio and confident in our ability to deliver a stronger H2. Turning to Slide 6. The completion of the Orla transaction fundamentally changes the scale and quality of Equinox Gold. We now have a stronger operating platform, greater financial capability, and one of the industry's strongest organic growth pipelines. Our immediate focus needs to be execution. That means delivering on our H2 operating plans, achieving our full-year production and cost guidance, and successfully integrating the combined organization while maintaining the operational momentum we have built. Looking beyond 2026, we have a portfolio of high-quality assets and a pipeline of organic growth opportunities that provides a clear path for long-term value creation. We'll continue advancing those opportunities in a disciplined and measured way, prioritizing the projects that generate the strongest returns while maintaining financial flexibility.
Speaker #4: The completion of the Orla transaction fundamentally changes the scale and quality of Equinox Gold. We now have a stronger operating platform, greater financial capability, and one of the industry's strongest organic growth pipelines.
Speaker #4: Our immediate focus needs to be execution. That means delivering on our second half operating plans, achieving our full-year production and cost guidance, and successfully integrating the combined organization while maintaining the operational momentum we have built.
Speaker #4: Looking beyond 2026, we have a portfolio of high-quality assets and a pipeline of organic growth opportunities that provides a clear path for long-term value creation.
Speaker #4: We'll continue advancing those opportunities in a disciplined and measured way. Prioritizing the projects that generate the strongest returns while maintaining financial flexibility. We have the assets, the balance sheet, and most importantly, the people to deliver on that strategy.
Jason Simpson: We have the assets, the balance sheet, and most importantly, the people to deliver on that strategy. Now it's about consistent execution and delivering on our commitments. With that, we'll pass it over to the operator, and we'd be pleased to take your questions.
Jason Simpson: We have the assets, the balance sheet, and most importantly, the people to deliver on that strategy. Now it's about consistent execution and delivering on our commitments. With that, we'll pass it over to the operator, and we'd be pleased to take your questions.
Speaker #4: Now it's about consistent execution and delivering on our commitments. With that, we'll pass it over to the operator, and we'd be pleased to take your questions.
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Speaker #2: Our first question is from Wayne Lamb with TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks. Morning, guys. Maybe just starting with Valentine, the grades were normally higher this quarter, but the mine plan that was released in March calls for average process grades of 2 and a half gram through 2028.
Wayne Lam: Thanks. Morning, guys. Just starting with Valentine. The grades were nominally higher this quarter, but the mine plan that was released in March calls for average processed grades of 2.5 gram through 2028. Just was wondering if you could outline a bit more detail on the selectivity and the dilution front. Just wondering if that's still a reasonable target, or does there need to be a bit of a reset in the reserve grade or expectation at some point as we think ahead to the coming quarters in 2027?
Wayne Lam [Director, Equity Research: Thanks. Morning, guys. Just starting with Valentine. The grades were nominally higher this quarter, but the mine plan that was released in March calls for average processed grades of 2.5 gram through 2028. Just was wondering if you could outline a bit more detail on the selectivity and the dilution front. Just wondering if that's still a reasonable target, or does there need to be a bit of a reset in the reserve grade or expectation at some point as we think ahead to the coming quarters in 2027?
Speaker #5: So just was wondering if you could outline a bit more detail on the steps being taken here on the selectivity and the dilution front, and if and just wondering if that's still a reasonable target, or does there need to be a bit of a reset in the reserve grade or expectation at some point as we think ahead to the coming quarters in 2027?
Speaker #6: Yeah, morning, Wayne, and thanks for the questions, and thanks for TD's support. I'll start with the last part of that question first. From a reserve grade perspective, we're comfortable in the contained metal within the deposit, and that's what we've said quarter on quarter for the last couple of quarters.
Darren Hall: Morning, Wayne, and thanks for the questions and thanks for TD support. I'll start with the last part of that question first. From a reserve grade perspective, we're comfortable in the contained metal within the deposit, and that's what we've said quarter-on-quarter for the last couple of quarters. Our challenges have been about reflecting the selectivity that was intimated in the feasibility study or the technical report that we released. We've made significant improvements quarter-on-quarter, to deliver a higher grade above a cutoff. The ability to deliver an average grade above an ore waste cutoff is solid. We're comfortable with that. What we saw Q2 over Q1 was a market improvement in our high-grade reconciliation above an elevated cutoff. We improved reconciliation by close to 20% in the quarter, and that was reflected in a stronger grade in the quarter.
Darren Hall: Morning, Wayne, and thanks for the questions and thanks for TD support. I'll start with the last part of that question first. From a reserve grade perspective, we're comfortable in the contained metal within the deposit, and that's what we've said quarter-on-quarter for the last couple of quarters. Our challenges have been about reflecting the selectivity that was intimated in the feasibility study or the technical report that we released. We've made significant improvements quarter-on-quarter, to deliver a higher grade above a cutoff. The ability to deliver an average grade above an ore waste cutoff is solid. We're comfortable with that. What we saw Q2 over Q1 was a market improvement in our high-grade reconciliation above an elevated cutoff. We improved reconciliation by close to 20% in the quarter, and that was reflected in a stronger grade in the quarter.
Speaker #6: Our challenges have been about reflecting the selectivity that was intimated in the feasibility study or the technical report that we released. And we've made significant improvements quarter on quarter to deliver a higher grade above a cutoff.
Speaker #6: So the ability to deliver an average grade above an all waste cutoff is solid. We're comfortable with that. And what we saw Q2 over Q1 was a market improvement in our high-grade reconciliation above an elevated cutoff.
Speaker #6: We improved reconciliation by close to 20% in the quarter. And that was reflected in a stronger grade in the quarter, but more importantly, in July, we saw a 1.8 gram grade.
Darren Hall: More importantly, in July, we saw a 1.8 gram grade. That has continued into August, and it's only early, but we're approaching around a 2-gram grade in August month to date. If we talk about some of the operating initiatives that we're focused on, I'll throw it over to Dave. Just Dave, do you want to give a little bit of an outline of some of the things we've been focusing on over the last quarter or two?
Darren Hall: More importantly, in July, we saw a 1.8 gram grade. That has continued into August, and it's only early, but we're approaching around a 2-gram grade in August month to date. If we talk about some of the operating initiatives that we're focused on, I'll throw it over to Dave. Just Dave, do you want to give a little bit of an outline of some of the things we've been focusing on over the last quarter or two?
Speaker #6: That has continued into August, and it's only early, but we're approaching around a 2 gram grade in August month today. If we talk about some of the operating initiatives that we're focused on, I'll throw it over to Dave and just, Dave, do you want to give a little bit of an outline of some of the things we've been focusing on over the last quarter or two?
Speaker #6: Yeah, for sure. Thanks, Darren. So we've been applying the software called ORPRO 3D, which helps us understand as we blast the material how much this displace and helps us better outline the polygons.
David Schummer: For sure. Thanks, Darren. We've been applying the software called OrePro 3D, which helps us understand, as we blast the material, how much it's displaced and helps us better outline the polygons. We're also focused intently on improving the polygon mining compliance. That compliance was up in the high 90s this last month, which is a significant improvement over previous. We're focused on dilution across the board, operator training our technical people, et cetera. I believe the results we're seeing are consistent with what I'd expect and expect that to continue through the rest of the year, as Darren mentioned.
David Schummer: For sure. Thanks, Darren. We've been applying the software called OrePro 3D, which helps us understand, as we blast the material, how much it's displaced and helps us better outline the polygons. We're also focused intently on improving the polygon mining compliance. That compliance was up in the high 90s this last month, which is a significant improvement over previous. We're focused on dilution across the board, operator training our technical people, et cetera. I believe the results we're seeing are consistent with what I'd expect and expect that to continue through the rest of the year, as Darren mentioned.
Speaker #6: And we're also focused intently on improving the polygon mining compliance and that compliance was up in the high 90s this last month, which is a significant improvement over previous.
Speaker #6: We're focused on dilution across the board, operator training, training our technical people, etc. And I believe the results we're seeing are consistent with what I'd expect, and expect that to continue through the rest of the year as Darren mentioned.
Speaker #6: And we start thinking about the longer term, right? I see no need to reset expectations in that space. I mean, we've revised guidance for this year, and the revised guidance reflects the performance that we have seen.
Darren Hall: We start thinking about the longer term, right? I see no need to reset expectations in that space. We've revised guidance for this year, the revised guidance reflects the performance that we have seen carried forward for the balance of the year. I don't think it fully represents the improvements that we have seen and will see. We've arguably set the bar, arguably a little conservatively, as we want to increase the level of confidence in our ability to deliver into expectations for that asset. The production profile on the back end of the year is 80,000 to 90,000 ounces. When you annualize that, you're still towards the midpoint of guidance of what would've been a full year guidance. As we roll into 2027, we're going to continue to see those benefits improve, the realized grade increase will maintain throughput.
Darren Hall: We start thinking about the longer term, right? I see no need to reset expectations in that space. We've revised guidance for this year, the revised guidance reflects the performance that we have seen carried forward for the balance of the year. I don't think it fully represents the improvements that we have seen and will see. We've arguably set the bar, arguably a little conservatively, as we want to increase the level of confidence in our ability to deliver into expectations for that asset. The production profile on the back end of the year is 80,000 to 90,000 ounces. When you annualize that, you're still towards the midpoint of guidance of what would've been a full year guidance. As we roll into 2027, we're going to continue to see those benefits improve, the realized grade increase will maintain throughput.
Speaker #6: Carried forward for the balance of the year, and I don't think it fully represents the improvements that we have seen and will see. We've kind of arguably set the bar arguably a little conservatively, as we want to kind of increase the level of confidence in our ability to deliver into expectations for that asset.
Speaker #6: And the production profile on the back end of the year is 80 to 90 thousand ounces. So when you annualize that, you're still towards the midpoint of guidance of what would have been a full-year guidance.
Speaker #6: So as we roll into 2027, we're going to continue to see those benefits improve, the realized grade increase will maintain throughput, and importantly, the board just yesterday approved full funds for Valentine, which we for the phase two, which we disclosed in the release as well.
Darren Hall: Importantly, the board, just yesterday, approved full funds for Valentine, for the phase II, which we disclosed in the release as well. As we implement or build that expansion, that'll take a lot of the issues out of the selectivity issues that we see in the short term until we have that 5 million ton plant in place. I think that what we're seeing is typical and a normal sort of ramp-up related issues. We were overly aggressive in terms of our selectivity for the start of the year. We're working through those issues. We're improving. We'll continue to, and we're very comfortable and confident with the estimates we've put out there. Jason, anything you'd layer on that, buddy?
Darren Hall: Importantly, the board, just yesterday, approved full funds for Valentine, for the phase II, which we disclosed in the release as well. As we implement or build that expansion, that'll take a lot of the issues out of the selectivity issues that we see in the short term until we have that 5 million ton plant in place. I think that what we're seeing is typical and a normal sort of ramp-up related issues. We were overly aggressive in terms of our selectivity for the start of the year. We're working through those issues. We're improving. We'll continue to, and we're very comfortable and confident with the estimates we've put out there. Jason, anything you'd layer on that, buddy?
Speaker #6: And as we implement or build that expansion, that'll take a lot of the issues out of the selectivity. Issues that we see in the short term until we have that 5 million plant 5 million ton plant in place.
Speaker #6: So I think that what we're seeing is typical, and normal sort of ramp-up related issues. We were overly aggressive in terms of our selectivity for the start of the year.
Speaker #6: We're working through those issues. We're improving. We'll continue to. And we're very comfortable and confident with the estimates we've put out there. Jason, anything you'd layer on that, buddy?
Speaker #4: Yeah, I think, and David, Andrew, and I will be down in Newfoundland very shortly to oversee and confirm our confidence in the work that's already been initiated in terms of grade control and selectivity to preferentially treat feed that high grade.
Jason Simpson: Yeah, I think, David, Andrew, and I will be down in Newfoundland very shortly, to oversee and confirm our confidence in the work that's already been initiated in terms of grade control and selectivity to preferentially feed that high grade. In my experience with these ramp-ups, this kind of stabilization of the operation, everything from grade control to operating efficiencies of the equipment and so on, is normal course in ramping up any project. That's represented here in Valentine.
Jason Simpson: Yeah, I think, David, Andrew, and I will be down in Newfoundland very shortly, to oversee and confirm our confidence in the work that's already been initiated in terms of grade control and selectivity to preferentially feed that high grade. In my experience with these ramp-ups, this kind of stabilization of the operation, everything from grade control to operating efficiencies of the equipment and so on, is normal course in ramping up any project. That's represented here in Valentine.
Speaker #4: But in my experience with these ramp-ups, this kind of stabilization of the operation, everything from grade control to operating efficiencies of the equipment and so on, is normal course in ramping up any project.
Speaker #4: And that's represented here in Valentine.
Speaker #6: And both in the production and the costs. We've basically taken a run rate that we have seen for the year, projected it forward. So the gains that we've seen, the efficiencies we've seen, and the reduction in spend and the we have not been factored into.
Darren Hall: Both in the production and the costs. We've basically taken a run rate that we have seen for the year, projected it forward. The gains that we've seen, the efficiencies we've seen, and the reduction in spend, we have not been factored into. We'll be transparent here. The point estimate of our internal estimates going forward is lower than our low end of guidance for costs. Right? We're really trying to set the asset up for delivering to expectations and not disappoint. Wayne, did we cover your question? Is there anything else outstanding that you had?
Darren Hall: Both in the production and the costs. We've basically taken a run rate that we have seen for the year, projected it forward. The gains that we've seen, the efficiencies we've seen, and the reduction in spend, we have not been factored into. We'll be transparent here. The point estimate of our internal estimates going forward is lower than our low end of guidance for costs. Right? We're really trying to set the asset up for delivering to expectations and not disappoint. Wayne, did we cover your question? Is there anything else outstanding that you had?
Speaker #6: And we'll be transparent here is the point estimate of our internal estimates going forward is lower than our low end of guidance for costs, right?
Speaker #6: So we're really trying to set the asset up for deliver into expectations and not disappoint. Wayne, did we cover the your question? Is there anything else outstanding that you had?
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks. No, that's great. That's a lot of detail. Maybe moving to Greenstone, nice to see the improvement in the process grades. Quarter over quarter alongside the tonnage getting towards design.
Wayne Lam: Yeah, thanks. No, that's great. That's a lot of detail. Maybe moving to Greenstone. Nice to see the improvement in the process grades quarter over quarter alongside the tonnage getting towards design. Just wondering if you had any commentary on the lag in the recoveries. Would you be able to give us some color on the timing of the installation of the trommel and the expected impact that might have operationally on throughput or recoveries?
Wayne Lam [Director, Equity Research: Yeah, thanks. No, that's great. That's a lot of detail. Maybe moving to Greenstone. Nice to see the improvement in the process grades quarter over quarter alongside the tonnage getting towards design. Just wondering if you had any commentary on the lag in the recoveries. Would you be able to give us some color on the timing of the installation of the trommel and the expected impact that might have operationally on throughput or recoveries?
Speaker #5: Just wondering if you had any commentary on the lag in the recoveries and then would you be able to give us some color on the timing of the installation of the trommel and expected impact that might have operationally on the throughput or recoveries?
Speaker #6: Yeah, for sure. And I'll start with I'll start at the end of the question because I can remember that part, right? And then go backwards.
Darren Hall: For sure. I'll start at the end of the question because I can remember that part, right, then go backwards. The trommel is still in play here for the end of the year, and we will see the benefit of that before the end of the year. What that will do, it'll take out a lot of the tramp that we're feeding into the plant, which creates unnecessary downtime and also reduces efficiencies within the plant. That was always envisaged to get us to nameplate. Pleasingly, where we sit today, for the average throughput for Q2, we were just a smidgen under nameplate capacity. We're 26,800 tons for the quarter. For Q3, so through actually yesterday morning, so through 4 August or 5 August, we were just over nameplate at just over 28,000 tons a day.
Darren Hall: For sure. I'll start at the end of the question because I can remember that part, right, then go backwards. The trommel is still in play here for the end of the year, and we will see the benefit of that before the end of the year. What that will do, it'll take out a lot of the tramp that we're feeding into the plant, which creates unnecessary downtime and also reduces efficiencies within the plant. That was always envisaged to get us to nameplate. Pleasingly, where we sit today, for the average throughput for Q2, we were just a smidgen under nameplate capacity. We're 26,800 tons for the quarter. For Q3, so through actually yesterday morning, so through 4 August or 5 August, we were just over nameplate at just over 28,000 tons a day.
Speaker #6: Yeah, the trommel is still in play here for the end of the year. And we will see the benefit of that before the end of the year.
Speaker #6: And what that will do, it'll take out a lot of the tramp that we're feeding into the plant, which creates unnecessary downtime and also removes and reduces efficiencies within the plant.
Speaker #6: And that was always envisaged to get us to nameplate, but pleasingly, where we see today, I mean, for the average throughput for Q2, we were just a smidgen under nameplate capacity.
Speaker #6: We're 26.8 thousand tons for the quarter. Now, for the third quarter, so through actually yesterday morning, so through the 4th of August or 5th of August, we were just over nameplate at 28 just over 28,000 tons a day.
Speaker #6: So we are what we are seeing is all of the activities that Brian and the team have been leading over the last year at Greenstone are truly paying dividends.
Darren Hall: What we are seeing is all of the activities that Bryan and the team have been leading over the last year at Greenstone are truly paying dividends. We're comfortable that we can deliver into nameplate or exceeding the nameplate without the trommel. The trommel then positions us well as we head into 2027 to start challenging that install capacity to maybe 30 or beyond thousand tons a day. They're very comfortable with where that sits. We're seeing grades consistent with our expectations in terms of reconciliation with the model. We are still seeing some kind of a bit of a overhang here from a recovery perspective. Recoveries in the quarter around 80% thereabouts, and we are seeing higher levels of arsenopyrite. Dave, do you want to, or Matt, do you want to give a little bit of color on?
Darren Hall: What we are seeing is all of the activities that Bryan and the team have been leading over the last year at Greenstone are truly paying dividends. We're comfortable that we can deliver into nameplate or exceeding the nameplate without the trommel. The trommel then positions us well as we head into 2027 to start challenging that install capacity to maybe 30 or beyond thousand tons a day. They're very comfortable with where that sits. We're seeing grades consistent with our expectations in terms of reconciliation with the model. We are still seeing some kind of a bit of a overhang here from a recovery perspective. Recoveries in the quarter around 80% thereabouts, and we are seeing higher levels of arsenopyrite. Dave, do you want to, or Matt, do you want to give a little bit of color on?
Speaker #6: So we're comfortable that we can deliver into nameplate or exceeding the nameplate without the trommel. So the trommel then positions as well as we hit into 2027 to start challenging that install capacity to maybe 30 or beyond 1,000 tons a day.
Speaker #6: So very comfortable with where that sits, we're seeing grades consistent with our expectations in terms of reconciliation with the model. We are still seeing some kind of a bit of an overhang here from a recovery perspective.
Speaker #6: Recoveries in the quarter around 80%. Thereabouts. And we are seeing higher levels of arsenipyrite Dave, do you want to or Matt, do you want to give a little bit of color on?
Speaker #3: Sure. Yeah. On the arsenipyrite, we are seeing we're learning more as we mine through the ore body, and we're trying to model better. We're undertaking some efforts to do a sampling campaign to understand the distribution of that arsenipyrite within the ore body.
Matt MacPhail: Sure. Yeah. On the arsenopyrite, we're learning more as we mine through the ore body, and we're trying to model better. We're undertaking some efforts to do a sampling campaign to understand the distribution of that arsenopyrite within the ore body, and we'll know more, as we go through that in the remainder of 2026 and into 2027.
Matt MacPhail: Sure. Yeah. On the arsenopyrite, we're learning more as we mine through the ore body, and we're trying to model better. We're undertaking some efforts to do a sampling campaign to understand the distribution of that arsenopyrite within the ore body, and we'll know more, as we go through that in the remainder of 2026 and into 2027.
Speaker #3: And we'll know more as we go through that in the remainder of '26 and into '27.
Speaker #6: So yeah, no, comfortable with where we sit and looking forward. I think that the technical report kind of holistically reasonably represents what we expect to get out of the assets because there'll be some unders and overs, as always.
Darren Hall: yeah, no, comfortable with where we sit, and looking forward, I think that the technical report holistically, reasonably represents what we expect to get out of the assets. There'll be some unders and overs as always. I think with the improved throughput above the nameplate, with grade reconciling well, we'll work through the recovery issues. I think we're setting ourselves up to be able to comfortably deliver into those long-term expectations for Greenstone.
Darren Hall: yeah, no, comfortable with where we sit, and looking forward, I think that the technical report holistically, reasonably represents what we expect to get out of the assets. There'll be some unders and overs as always. I think with the improved throughput above the nameplate, with grade reconciling well, we'll work through the recovery issues. I think we're setting ourselves up to be able to comfortably deliver into those long-term expectations for Greenstone.
Speaker #6: But I think with the improved throughput above the nameplate, with grade reconciling well, we'll work through the recovery issues. I think we're setting ourselves up to be able to comfortably deliver into those long-term expectations for Greenstone.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. Thank you for that. And then maybe just last one for Jason. Just curious, when the merger was announced, I had posed a question about whether you were coming in to run the larger entity and you had said, quote, "Let me be clear about the leadership.
Wayne Lam: Okay, great. Thank you for that. Then maybe just last one for Jason. Just curious, when the merger was announced, I had posed a question about whether you were coming in to run the larger entity, and you had said, quote, "Let me be clear about the leadership. Darren and I are partnered in this combined company." Just wondering now with Darren stepping aside pretty shortly and some kinks still to be worked out with some of the Equinox assets, you have a pretty successful track record dating back to Torex and with Orla. Just wondering if something had prompted a change in the management structure since our last discussion. Just curious where you're prioritizing your focus as you get into the seat. It just seems like a pretty big portfolio to take over in a very short period of time.
Wayne Lam [Director, Equity Research: Okay, great. Thank you for that. Then maybe just last one for Jason. Just curious, when the merger was announced, I had posed a question about whether you were coming in to run the larger entity, and you had said, quote, "Let me be clear about the leadership. Darren and I are partnered in this combined company." Just wondering now with Darren stepping aside pretty shortly and some kinks still to be worked out with some of the Equinox assets, you have a pretty successful track record dating back to Torex and with Orla. Just wondering if something had prompted a change in the management structure since our last discussion. Just curious where you're prioritizing your focus as you get into the seat. It just seems like a pretty big portfolio to take over in a very short period of time.
Speaker #5: Darren and I are partnered in this combined company." So just wondering now with Darren stepping aside pretty shortly, and some kinks still to be worked out with some of the Equinox assets, I mean, you have a pretty successful track record dating back to Torex and with Orla.
Speaker #5: But just wondering if something had prompted a change in the management structure since our last discussion and just curious where your prioritizing your focus as you get into the seat.
Speaker #5: It just seems like a pretty big portfolio to take over in a very short period of time.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Wayne, thanks for remembering our last conversation and I stand by it. Darren and I are absolutely and remain partners in this business. What prompted the changes?
Jason Simpson: Yeah. Wayne, thanks for remembering our last conversation. I stand by it. Darren and I are absolutely and remain partners in this business. What prompted the change is two things. One, internally, as we combine the companies, Ed Chan is working on integration, Dave and Andrew working on operations. At the corporate level, the clarity of who's making the decisions needed to be enhanced. Darren and I spoke about this. We felt that internally for us, it was best to clarify that. Externally, making sure that we understood who is representing the company outside. Ed Chan, again, in capital markets and his team, as well as myself, will do that. Darren isn't going anywhere. He's sitting right next to me right now. He will continue to be an advisor to the company. He and I speak every day about the combined company.
Jason Simpson: Yeah. Wayne, thanks for remembering our last conversation. I stand by it. Darren and I are absolutely and remain partners in this business. What prompted the change is two things. One, internally, as we combine the companies, Ed Chan is working on integration, Dave and Andrew working on operations. At the corporate level, the clarity of who's making the decisions needed to be enhanced. Darren and I spoke about this. We felt that internally for us, it was best to clarify that. Externally, making sure that we understood who is representing the company outside. Ed Chan, again, in capital markets and his team, as well as myself, will do that. Darren isn't going anywhere. He's sitting right next to me right now. He will continue to be an advisor to the company. He and I speak every day about the combined company.
Speaker #4: Two things. One, internally, as we combined the companies and Ed Shannon's working on integration, Dave and Andrew working on operations at the corporate level, the clarity of who's making the decisions needed to be enhanced.
Speaker #4: And so Darren and I spoke about this, and we felt that internally for us, it was best to clarify that. Externally, making sure that we understood who is representing the company outside Ed Shannon again and the capital markets and his team as well as myself will do that.
Speaker #4: But Darren isn't going anywhere. He's sitting right next to me right now. He will continue to be an advisor to the company. He and I speak every day about the combined company.
Speaker #4: And frankly, I will be relying upon his support to run this bigger entity the likes of which is going to be daunting as we operate all these mines and build all these projects.
Jason Simpson: Frankly, I will be relying upon his support to run this bigger entity, the likes of which is going to be daunting as we operate all these mines and build all these projects. I will seek his counsel and continue to receive it. We've got a great team at Equinox. The folks out in Newfoundland, our combined operations in Ontario, and that's just speaking about our Canadian operations. I look forward to the work ahead to run what is a strong company. I'll need the counsel of people like Darren, like our new board of directors that met for the first time yesterday. Now it's about getting to work and delivering on expectations, and that starts with hitting our numbers.
Jason Simpson: Frankly, I will be relying upon his support to run this bigger entity, the likes of which is going to be daunting as we operate all these mines and build all these projects. I will seek his counsel and continue to receive it. We've got a great team at Equinox. The folks out in Newfoundland, our combined operations in Ontario, and that's just speaking about our Canadian operations. I look forward to the work ahead to run what is a strong company. I'll need the counsel of people like Darren, like our new board of directors that met for the first time yesterday. Now it's about getting to work and delivering on expectations, and that starts with hitting our numbers.
Speaker #4: So I will seek his counsel and continue to receive it. We've got a great team at Equinox. The folks out in Newfoundland are combined operations in Ontario and that's just speaking about our Canadian operations.
Speaker #4: So I look forward to the work ahead to run what is a strong company. And I'll need the counsel of people like Darren like our new board of directors that met for the first time yesterday.
Speaker #4: And so now it's about getting to work and delivering on expectations and that starts with hitting our numbers.
Speaker #6: And Jason, just let me layer on that. It's what we thought long and hard about this over the last couple of weeks. I mean, this is something that's emerged pretty quickly.
Darren Hall: Jason, just let me layer on that. We thought long and hard about this over the last couple of weeks. This is something that's emerged pretty quickly, but it was through the rapport and the relationship we developed over the last six months as we've been working through this process. When I looked at what was in front of this organization and the amount of change we'd seen within the business, we needed someone who could turn up and say that, "I'm committed to be here for the next five years." Jason's in that position. I remain a significant shareholder in this business. Even though I may not be an executive employee, I'll be with Jason for whatever he needs, for whatever period of time, unless I find myself in a position where I'm conflicted to do so.
Darren Hall: Jason, just let me layer on that. We thought long and hard about this over the last couple of weeks. This is something that's emerged pretty quickly, but it was through the rapport and the relationship we developed over the last six months as we've been working through this process. When I looked at what was in front of this organization and the amount of change we'd seen within the business, we needed someone who could turn up and say that, "I'm committed to be here for the next five years." Jason's in that position. I remain a significant shareholder in this business. Even though I may not be an executive employee, I'll be with Jason for whatever he needs, for whatever period of time, unless I find myself in a position where I'm conflicted to do so.
Speaker #6: But it was through the rapport and the relationship we developed over the last six months has been working through this process. And when I looked at what was in front of this organization and the amount of change we'd seen within could turn up and say that I'm committed to be here for the next five years.
Speaker #6: And Jason's in that position. And I remain a significant shareholder in this business. And even though I may not be an executive employee, I'll be with Jason for whatever we need for whatever period of time unless I find myself in a position where I'm conflicted to do so.
Speaker #6: And I don't have any plans to be conflicted. So no, I think that we're externally it probably creates a little bit of, oh, a little bit of discomfort, but we've done it for what we believe is best for the business to ensure this clarity internal to the business.
Darren Hall: I don't have any plans to be conflicted. No. I think that externally, it probably creates a little bit of discomfort, but we've done it for what we believe is best for the business to ensure there's clarity internal to the business, so that people who deliver the results to you all can be absolutely certain about their future and what the business looks like. I think we're having our cake and eat it, too. No, I'm very comfortable with the change. Jason's well-positioned, too. He's got a great team around him, and he's got lots of support from folks like myself. I think we're in a good position, Wayne.
Darren Hall: I don't have any plans to be conflicted. No. I think that externally, it probably creates a little bit of discomfort, but we've done it for what we believe is best for the business to ensure there's clarity internal to the business, so that people who deliver the results to you all can be absolutely certain about their future and what the business looks like. I think we're having our cake and eat it, too. No, I'm very comfortable with the change. Jason's well-positioned, too. He's got a great team around him, and he's got lots of support from folks like myself. I think we're in a good position, Wayne.
Speaker #6: So the people who deliver the results to you all can be absolutely certain about their future and what the business looks like. And no, so I think we're having our cake and eat it too.
Speaker #6: So no, I'm very comfortable with the change and Jason's well positioned too. He's got a great team around him and he's got lots of support from folks like myself.
Speaker #6: So no, I think we're in a good position, Wayne.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. Thanks for the detailed responses. Best of luck in the months ahead and Darren, thank you for the partnership of the years and best of luck in
Wayne Lam: Okay, great. Thanks for the detailed responses. Best of luck in the months ahead. Darren, thank you for the partnership over the years, and best of luck in retirement.
Wayne Lam [Director, Equity Research: Okay, great. Thanks for the detailed responses. Best of luck in the months ahead. Darren, thank you for the partnership over the years, and best of luck in retirement.
Speaker #6: Yeah, thanks, buddy.
Darren Hall: Yeah, thanks, buddy.
Darren Hall: Yeah, thanks, buddy.
Speaker #1: The next question is from Anita Sony with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Operator 3: The next question is from Anita Soni with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question is from Anita Soni with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi, good morning, Darren. And Jason and the team. I just had a few more questions on Valentine. I wanted to understand what the assumptions are for just from a throughput and grade mill feed grade perspective for the guidance at Valentine for this year.
Anita Soni: Hi, good morning, Darren and Jason, and the team. I just had a few more questions on Valentine. I wanted to understand what the assumptions are just from a throughput and mill-feed grade perspective for the guidance at Valentine for this year. You've delivered like 7.7 on the mill throughput. Is that the kind of back-half assumption above nameplate and lower grades or whatever the implied grades would be? Or are you still assuming 6,500 tons per day in the back half?
Anita Soni: Hi, good morning, Darren and Jason, and the team. I just had a few more questions on Valentine. I wanted to understand what the assumptions are just from a throughput and mill-feed grade perspective for the guidance at Valentine for this year. You've delivered like 7.7 on the mill throughput. Is that the kind of back-half assumption above nameplate and lower grades or whatever the implied grades would be? Or are you still assuming 6,500 tons per day in the back half?
Speaker #7: So you delivered like 7.7 on the mill throughput. Is that the kind of back half assumption above nameplate? And lower grades or whatever the implied grades would be, or are you still assuming 6.5k ton per day in the back half?
Speaker #6: No, it's reflecting the buoyancy we see in throughput and it's reflecting a lower grade than anticipated. Now, I'll ask Matt to comment on the specifics of, but from memory, I think for the balance of the year, we're probably anticipating a grade about 1.8, 1.85 grams per ton.
Darren Hall: No, it's reflecting the buoyancy we see in throughput, and it's reflecting a lower grade than anticipated. Now, I'll ask Matt to comment on the specifics of, but from memory, I think for the balance of the year, we're probably anticipating a grade about 1.8.
Darren Hall: No, it's reflecting the buoyancy we see in throughput, and it's reflecting a lower grade than anticipated. Now, I'll ask Matt to comment on the specifics of, but from memory, I think for the balance of the year, we're probably anticipating a grade about 1.8.
Jason Simpson: That's right.
Jason Simpson: That's right.
Jason Simpson: 1.85 grams per ton.
Jason Simpson: 1.85 grams per ton.
Jason Simpson: Correct.
Jason Simpson: Correct.
Speaker #6: And recoveries in that 93, 94%, which we've seen. And encouragingly, Anita, what we have seen is that we've seen recoveries maintain with significantly higher throughputs, which is fantastic.
Darren Hall: Recoveries in that 93% and 94%, which we have seen. Encouragingly, Anita, what we have seen is that we have seen recoveries maintained with significantly higher throughputs, which is fantastic. You back into the tons to get those ounces. That's kind of the math. Matt, have I missed anything?
Darren Hall: Recoveries in that 93% and 94%, which we have seen. Encouragingly, Anita, what we have seen is that we have seen recoveries maintained with significantly higher throughputs, which is fantastic. You back into the tons to get those ounces. That's kind of the math. Matt, have I missed anything?
Speaker #6: And so you're back into the tons to get those ounces. That's kind of the math. Matt, have I missed anything?
Speaker #2: No, that's correct. Yeah.
Jason Simpson: No, that's correct. Yep.
Jason Simpson: No, that's correct. Yep.
Speaker #6: Yeah, yeah. So we're truly reflects throughput performance without any further improvements, which we still anticipate there will be as we work through and the team continue to optimize that plant.
Darren Hall: Yep. It truly reflects throughput performance without any further improvements, which we still anticipate there will be as we work through and the team continue to optimize that plant. It reflects arguably a somewhat conservative view on metal in terms of being able to deliver into that high-grade cut-off. Again, we are only six weeks into the quarter, but we are seeing grades consistent or better than what was fundamentally assumed within the forecast. No, I think we are well positioned in that space, Anita.
Darren Hall: Yep. It truly reflects throughput performance without any further improvements, which we still anticipate there will be as we work through and the team continue to optimize that plant. It reflects arguably a somewhat conservative view on metal in terms of being able to deliver into that high-grade cut-off. Again, we are only six weeks into the quarter, but we are seeing grades consistent or better than what was fundamentally assumed within the forecast. No, I think we are well positioned in that space, Anita.
Speaker #6: But it reflects arguably a somewhat conservative view on metal in terms of being able to deliver into that high grade cutoff. Again, it's only a we're only six weeks into the quarter.
Speaker #6: But we are seeing grades consistent or better than what was fundamentally assumed within the forecast. So no, I think we're well positioned in that space, Anita.
Speaker #7: Okay. So then 1.8, 1.85, that's not that much above the actual head grade you should be seeing out of the pit, which I believe was about 1.7 for the year.
Operator 2: That 1.8, 1.85, that's not that much above the actual head grade you should be seeing out of the pit, which I believe was about 1.7 for the year. My question, I guess, relates now to the mining rates. The average over the year should have been about 154,000 tons per day, and you're doing about 110 right now. I guess with the less segregation involved and from getting the 1.7 to be upgraded to 1.8, 1.85, is that a fair assumption that you'll be basically doing less segregation than the original mine plan? Because I think it called for almost 5.5 million tons of ore versus a mill feed of about 2.5 million tons of ore.
Anita Soni: That 1.8, 1.85, that's not that much above the actual head grade you should be seeing out of the pit, which I believe was about 1.7 for the year. My question, I guess, relates now to the mining rates. The average over the year should have been about 154,000 tons per day, and you're doing about 110 right now. I guess with the less segregation involved and from getting the 1.7 to be upgraded to 1.8, 1.85, is that a fair assumption that you'll be basically doing less segregation than the original mine plan? Because I think it called for almost 5.5 million tons of ore versus a mill feed of about 2.5 million tons of ore.
Speaker #7: So my question, I guess, relates now to the mining rates. The average over the year should have been about 154,000 tons per day.
Speaker #7: And you're doing about 110 right now. So with the, I guess, with the higher with the more, I guess, what am I trying to say?
Speaker #7: Less segregation involved and getting to just one from getting the 1.7 to be upgraded to 1.8, 1.85. Is that a fair assumption that you'll be basically doing less segregation than the original mine plan?
Speaker #7: Because I think it called for about 50 million ton sorry, like almost 5.5 million tons of ore versus a mill feed of about 2.5 million tons of ore.
Speaker #6: Yeah, Anita. And happy to have a kind of a role for some discussion offline as well. But I guess I will kind of for the general audience is separate out two things.
Darren Hall: Yeah, Anita, we'll be happy to have a real fulsome discussion offline as well. I guess that I will, for the general audience, separate out two things, is that what we have seen, we have seen a slower ramp-up in absolute mining, but that's unrelated to the selectivity issues. Regardless of how many tons you mine, you want to be as selective as you possibly can. We're not compromising selectivity For volume, right? Volume will always want to deliver the best possible grade. No, the grade assumption reflects basically backwards-looking performance with some moderate increases in quality around the segregation. I don't think it really reflects where we will get to. In terms of the absolute volumes, Dave, I mean, we're not mining 110,000 tons a day now.
Darren Hall: Yeah, Anita, we'll be happy to have a real fulsome discussion offline as well. I guess that I will, for the general audience, separate out two things, is that what we have seen, we have seen a slower ramp-up in absolute mining, but that's unrelated to the selectivity issues. Regardless of how many tons you mine, you want to be as selective as you possibly can. We're not compromising selectivity For volume, right? Volume will always want to deliver the best possible grade. No, the grade assumption reflects basically backwards-looking performance with some moderate increases in quality around the segregation. I don't think it really reflects where we will get to. In terms of the absolute volumes, Dave, I mean, we're not mining 110,000 tons a day now.
Speaker #6: Is that what we have seen, we have seen a slower ramp up in absolute mining, but that's unrelated to the selectivity issues. Regardless of how many tons you mine, you want to be as selective as you possibly can.
Speaker #6: So we're not compromising selectivity for volume, right? Volume will always want to deliver the best possible grade. So no, the great assumption reflects basically backwards looking performance with some moderate increases in quality around the segregation.
Speaker #6: But I don't think really reflects where we will get to. In terms of the absolute volumes, Dave, I mean, we're not mining 110,000 tons a day now.
Speaker #2: No, no, the numbers accurate earlier in the year, but now we're in the 140, 145,000 tons per day range. We've had some significant improvements.
David Schummer: No. The number's accurate earlier in the year, now we're in the 140,000, 145,000 ton per day range. Yeah.
David Schummer: No. The number's accurate earlier in the year, now we're in the 140,000, 145,000 ton per day range. Yeah.
Darren Hall: Yep. We've had some significant improvement this quarter.
Darren Hall: Yep. We've had some significant improvement this quarter.
Operator 2: Okay.
Anita Soni: Okay.
Speaker #7: All right. Okay. And yeah, I guess I was using the word selectivity and meaning ore segregation where you have a certain number of high grade volume, right, that you can put into the mill.
Darren Hall: Yeah.
Darren Hall: Yeah.
Operator 2: All right. Okay. Yeah, I guess I was using the word selectivity in meaning, or segregation where you have a certain number of high grade bin, high grade volume, right, that you can put into the mill, and if your mining rates are behind, then you don't have as much of the higher grade ore to put into the mill, right?
Anita Soni: All right. Okay. Yeah, I guess I was using the word selectivity in meaning, or segregation where you have a certain number of high grade bin, high grade volume, right, that you can put into the mill, and if your mining rates are behind, then you don't have as much of the higher grade ore to put into the mill, right?
Speaker #7: And if you're mining rates are behind, then you don't have as much of the higher grade ore to put into the mill, right?
Speaker #6: Correct. Yeah, the bigger the bucket you mine, the more you can select from. Absolutely. Yeah.
Darren Hall: Correct.
Darren Hall: Correct.
Operator 2: That's Yeah. Okay.
Darren Hall: That's Yeah. Okay.
Darren Hall: Yeah. The bigger bucket you mine, the more you can select from. Absolutely. Yep.
Darren Hall: Yeah. The bigger bucket you mine, the more you can select from. Absolutely. Yep.
Speaker #7: Okay. And then just a similar question on Greenstone for the back half of the year. Can you are you assuming throughput rates that are around 27k ton per day and grades similar to what you saw in the first sorry, in Q2 and then also in terms of recovery rate?
Operator 2: Okay.
Anita Soni: Okay.
Darren Hall: Yeah.
Darren Hall: Yeah.
Operator 2: Just a similar question on Greenstone for H2. Are you assuming throughput rates that are around 27,000 tons per day and grades similar to what you saw in Q2, and also in terms of recovery rate, because I think the recovery rate is probably the big question in correlation to the grade with obviously the higher grade material having a bit more arsenopyrite content in it.
Anita Soni: Just a similar question on Greenstone for H2. Are you assuming throughput rates that are around 27,000 tons per day and grades similar to what you saw in Q2, and also in terms of recovery rate, because I think the recovery rate is probably the big question in correlation to the grade with obviously the higher grade material having a bit more arsenopyrite content in it.
Speaker #7: Because I think the recovery rate is probably the big question in correlation to the grade with obviously the higher grade material having a bit more arsenic pyrite content in it.
Speaker #6: Yep. The short answer is yes. And it's throughputs consistent with the 27. It's grades consistent with basically the one gram, and it's recoveries that are consistent with as well.
Darren Hall: Yes. The short answer is yes. Its throughput's consistent with the 27, its grade's consistent with basically the 1 gram, and its recoveries that are consistent with as well. It's basically taken the last quarter and said, "Okay, let's just project that forward." Any benefits that come from improvements are not reflected in those estimates. That's what we did, is we kept the floor the same and just lowered the top-end range at Greenstone, and the worst thing we can do is do a little better than what we said.
Darren Hall: Yes. The short answer is yes. Its throughput's consistent with the 27, its grade's consistent with basically the 1 gram, and its recoveries that are consistent with as well. It's basically taken the last quarter and said, "Okay, let's just project that forward." Any benefits that come from improvements are not reflected in those estimates. That's what we did, is we kept the floor the same and just lowered the top-end range at Greenstone, and the worst thing we can do is do a little better than what we said.
Speaker #6: So it's basically taken the last quarter and said, okay, let's just project that forward. And any benefits that come from improvements are not reflected in those estimates.
Speaker #6: And that's what we did at what we did is we kept the floor the same and just lowered the top end range at Greenstone and the worst thing we can do is do a little better than what we said.
Speaker #7: Okay. And then last question I'll get back in the queue. So Los Pilos, you made some progress with the communities and got a three-way agreement there.
Operator 2: Okay, last question, I'll get back in the queue. Los Filos, you made some progress with the communities and got a three-way agreement there. Could I ask, perhaps Jason, how he's thinking about Los Filos going forward? I mean, obviously you guys are doing a study, but where does that fit in your capital allocation priorities at this stage?
Anita Soni: Okay, last question, I'll get back in the queue. Los Filos, you made some progress with the communities and got a three-way agreement there. Could I ask, perhaps Jason, how he's thinking about Los Filos going forward? I mean, obviously you guys are doing a study, but where does that fit in your capital allocation priorities at this stage?
Speaker #7: Could I ask perhaps Jason how he's thinking about Los Pilos going forward? And what the next I mean, obviously, you guys are doing a study, but where does that fit in your capital allocation priorities at this stage?
Speaker #6: Yeah, thanks, Anita. And as most of the audience probably knows, I spent a lot of time there building there's three components of your question that we need to focus on.
Jason Simpson: Yes. Thanks, Anita, as most of the audience probably knows, I spent a lot of time there building Torex, I would offer that there's 3 components of your question that we need to focus on. The first component is the agreement that the Equinox team just achieved with the three communities there. Obviously I've been aware and involved in the discussions throughout and feel that that is absolutely the right approach for working there going forward. Now that the agreements are in place and you have social stability, we can then focus on resuming operations for the heap leach process. In parallel with that, we need to be planning for the big opportunity at Filos, which is the ounces that we have in resources there.
Jason Simpson: Yes. Thanks, Anita, as most of the audience probably knows, I spent a lot of time there building Torex, I would offer that there's 3 components of your question that we need to focus on. The first component is the agreement that the Equinox team just achieved with the three communities there. Obviously I've been aware and involved in the discussions throughout and feel that that is absolutely the right approach for working there going forward. Now that the agreements are in place and you have social stability, we can then focus on resuming operations for the heap leach process. In parallel with that, we need to be planning for the big opportunity at Filos, which is the ounces that we have in resources there.
Speaker #6: The first component is the agreement that the Equinox team just achieved with the three communities there. And obviously, I've been in aware and involved in the discussions throughout and feel that that is absolutely the right approach for working there going forward.
Speaker #6: So, now that the agreements are in place and you have social stability, we can then focus on resuming operations for the heap leach process.
Speaker #6: But in parallel with that, we need to be planning for the big opportunity at Pilos, which is the ounces that we have in resources there.
Speaker #6: And so we will be updating the study and planning our construction in Guerrero based upon what is available in terms of gold resources. While we're doing that and our technical teams are preparing for that decision point at the board, we need to resume operations at Los Pilos and have it begin producing gold.
Jason Simpson: We will be updating the study, and planning our construction in Guerrero, based upon what is available in terms of gold resources. While we're doing that, and our technical teams are preparing for that decision point at the board, we need to resume operations at Los Filos and have it begin producing gold. We got approval from the board yesterday to do exactly that. We'll begin leaching, and in parallel, preparing for the future conversation of the board. As we recall in our capital allocation going forward, that Los Filos increase in production out of the heap leach and into a CIL process will occur after the construction of South Railroad, the construction of Castle Mountain, and our expansions in Mexico will follow in years to come.
Jason Simpson: We will be updating the study, and planning our construction in Guerrero, based upon what is available in terms of gold resources. While we're doing that, and our technical teams are preparing for that decision point at the board, we need to resume operations at Los Filos and have it begin producing gold. We got approval from the board yesterday to do exactly that. We'll begin leaching, and in parallel, preparing for the future conversation of the board. As we recall in our capital allocation going forward, that Los Filos increase in production out of the heap leach and into a CIL process will occur after the construction of South Railroad, the construction of Castle Mountain, and our expansions in Mexico will follow in years to come.
Speaker #6: We got approval from the board yesterday to do exactly that. So we'll begin leaching and in parallel preparing for the future conversation of the board.
Speaker #6: And as we recall, in our capital allocation going forward, that Los Pilos increase in production out of the heat bleach and into CIL process will occur after the construction itself railroad, the construction of Castle Mountain, and our expansions in Mexico will follow 10 years to come.
Speaker #6: Yeah. And the one thing I'd layer on that, Jason—it was a good summary—is that the funds to commence the restart are included in the guidance now, because that was not budgeted, and that's in the project pipeline space.
Darren Hall: The one thing I'd layer on that, Jason, it was a good summary, is that the funds to commence the restart are included in the guidance now, because that was not budgeted, and that's in the project pipeline space. There likely will be some metal that falls out before now and the end of the year. That's not reflected in any of the production numbers. It's at a de minimis level given the 1.1 million ounces of annualized rate that we're producing.
Darren Hall: The one thing I'd layer on that, Jason, it was a good summary, is that the funds to commence the restart are included in the guidance now, because that was not budgeted, and that's in the project pipeline space. There likely will be some metal that falls out before now and the end of the year. That's not reflected in any of the production numbers. It's at a de minimis level given the 1.1 million ounces of annualized rate that we're producing.
Speaker #6: They likely will be some metal that falls out for now in the end of the year. That's not reflected in any of the production numbers.
Speaker #6: It's a de minimis level given the 1.1 million ounces of annualized rate that we're producing.
Speaker #7: Okay. Actually, I had one last question on Valentine in the capex. So now includes 50 to 60 million dollars for the phase two in the back half of the year.
Operator 2: Actually, I had one last question on Valentine and the CapEx. Now includes $50 to $60 million for the phase 2 in the back half of the year. The CapEx guide went up, I think, a little bit more than that, I'd say about $25 to $35 million, by my rough math here. Can you let me know what that extra growth capital at Valentine is going to be attributed to?
Anita Soni: Actually, I had one last question on Valentine and the CapEx. Now includes $50 to $60 million for the phase 2 in the back half of the year. The CapEx guide went up, I think, a little bit more than that, I'd say about $25 to $35 million, by my rough math here. Can you let me know what that extra growth capital at Valentine is going to be attributed to?
Speaker #7: But the capex guide went up, I think, a little bit more than that, I'd say, what, 25 to 35 million dollars by my rough math here.
Speaker #7: Can you let me know what that extra growth capital at Valentine is going to be attributed to?
Speaker #6: People pick that one up. Pete, Dave?
Darren Hall: Pete will pick that one up. Pete, Dave?
Darren Hall: Pete will pick that one up. Pete, Dave?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I mean, essentially, that's the we made a change from a jaw crusher to a gyratory crusher. And that's the balance. That's the balance over it.
David Schummer: Yeah, essentially, we made a change from a jaw crusher to a gyratory crusher. That's the balance that we're in.
David Schummer: Yeah, essentially, we made a change from a jaw crusher to a gyratory crusher. That's the balance that we're in.
Speaker #6: On phase two.
Darren Hall: On phase II?
Darren Hall: On phase II?
Speaker #5: Yeah.
David Schummer: Yeah.
David Schummer: Yeah.
Darren Hall: Yeah. I think that was the question, Anita?
Darren Hall: Yeah. I think that was the question, Anita?
Speaker #2: Was that the question? I think that was the quick question, Anita.
Speaker #7: Nope. The question was your capital went from 90 I believe it was 95 to 115 up to 180 to 200 million dollars. And 50 to 60 of that is for the phase two.
Operator 2: Nope. The question was, your capital went from, I believe it was $95 to 115 up to $180 to 200 million. $50 to 60 of that is for the phase II. That still leaves a differential of about 30 million bucks. I was wondering what that growth capital in 2026 was associated with.
Anita Soni: Nope. The question was, your capital went from, I believe it was $95 to 115 up to $180 to 200 million. $50 to 60 of that is for the phase II. That still leaves a differential of about 30 million bucks. I was wondering what that growth capital in 2026 was associated with.
Speaker #7: So that still leaves a differential of about 30 million bucks. And I was wondering what that growth capital in 2026 was associated with.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Well, we'll get back to you on that one offline, Anita.
Jason Simpson: Yeah, we'll get back to you on that one offline, Anita.
Jason Simpson: Yeah, we'll get back to you on that one offline, Anita.
Speaker #7: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
Operator 2: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
Anita Soni: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
Speaker #6: Okay. Thanks, Anita. Appreciate the questions and the support. Thank you.
Darren Hall: Okay. Thanks, Anita, appreciate the questions and the support. Thank you.
Darren Hall: Okay. Thanks, Anita, appreciate the questions and the support. Thank you.
Speaker #7: The next question is from Josh Wolfson with RBC. Please go ahead.
Operator 3: The next question is from Josh Wilson with RBC. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question is from Josh Wilson with RBC. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Thank you very much. Continuing along the question that Anita had on capex, I noticed that there were some additional spend included for some of the development projects less core opportunities right now.
Josh Wilson: Yeah, thank you very much. Continuing along the question that Nity had on CapEx, I noticed that there was some additional spend included for some of the development projects. Less core opportunities right now, but $35 to 40 million at Los Filos for half of the year effectively, then $30 to 35 million at Camino Rojo, presumably that's on the sulfides. Should we assume a similar run rate maybe on an annualized basis into 2027, despite some of these development opportunities being longer dated?
Josh Wilson: Yeah, thank you very much. Continuing along the question that Nity had on CapEx, I noticed that there was some additional spend included for some of the development projects. Less core opportunities right now, but $35 to 40 million at Los Filos for half of the year effectively, then $30 to 35 million at Camino Rojo, presumably that's on the sulfides. Should we assume a similar run rate maybe on an annualized basis into 2027, despite some of these development opportunities being longer dated?
Speaker #8: But 35 to 40 million at Los Pilos for half of the year effectively. And then 30 to 35 million at Camino Rojo presumably that's on the sulfites.
Speaker #8: Should we assume a similar run rate maybe on an annualized basis into 2027? Despite some of these development opportunities being longer dated?
Speaker #5: Yeah. So I'll take the Los Pilos part first. It's Peter. The additional capital for Los Pilos for the year keeping in mind that we were on care maintenance what we had told you about for the year was concerning keeping the mine on care maintenance.
Peter Hardie: Yeah. I'll take the Los Filos part first. It's Peter. The additional capital for Los Filos for the year, keeping in mind that we were on care and maintenance. What we had told you about for the year was concerning keeping the mine on care and maintenance. The additional capital that we have there is for the gradual restart of operations, then we'll inform for next year as we firm up our plan to go forward, then do our 2027 budget. Then, sorry, what was the second part of your question?
Peter Hardie: Yeah. I'll take the Los Filos part first. It's Peter. The additional capital for Los Filos for the year, keeping in mind that we were on care and maintenance. What we had told you about for the year was concerning keeping the mine on care and maintenance. The additional capital that we have there is for the gradual restart of operations, then we'll inform for next year as we firm up our plan to go forward, then do our 2027 budget. Then, sorry, what was the second part of your question?
Speaker #5: The additional capital that we have there is for the gradual restart of operations. And then we'll inform for next year as we firm up our plan to go forward and then do our 2027 budget.
Speaker #5: And then, sorry, what was the second part of your question?
Speaker #6: The Camino Rojo, Peter. I'll take that one. So the Camino Rojo reflects an update we did not include in the original guidance. The portal to hit underground on the sulfites as you recall, Josh.
Jason Simpson: The Camino Rojo, Peter. I'll take that one. The Camino Rojo reflects an update. We did not include in the original guidance the portal to head underground on the sulfides, as you recall, Josh. It includes the last finalization of the heap leach pad expansion. Frankly, there's not a lot of spend left there, but it does include that. Then the $25 million for the portal collar and development underground. That's what represents the Camino Rojo share. We did not include that in the original Orla guidance. We're now including it in our company at Equinox.
Jason Simpson: The Camino Rojo, Peter. I'll take that one. The Camino Rojo reflects an update. We did not include in the original guidance the portal to head underground on the sulfides, as you recall, Josh. It includes the last finalization of the heap leach pad expansion. Frankly, there's not a lot of spend left there, but it does include that. Then the $25 million for the portal collar and development underground. That's what represents the Camino Rojo share. We did not include that in the original Orla guidance. We're now including it in our company at Equinox.
Speaker #6: So it includes the last finalization of the heap leach pad expansion, but frankly, there's not a lot of spend left there. But it does include that.
Speaker #6: And then the 25 million for the portal caller and development underground. So that's what represents the Camino Rojo share. We did not include that in the original ORLA guidance.
Speaker #6: We're now including it in our company at Equinox. Yeah. And for clarification on that as well, it's the prudent step forward to get in and start getting a higher level of knowledge with respect to the metallurgy.
Darren Hall: Yeah. For clarification on that as well, it's the prudent step forward to get in and start getting a higher level of knowledge with respect to the metallurgy, get some bulk samples, do that sort of work as part of it. It doesn't preempt a full funds commitment for the project, as Jason alluded to, in terms of we've got a clearly defined growth capital project schedule in the next couple of years. This is the continuing learning of, just like we'll have it at Los Filos, right? There's work that will be spent to be able to progress the understanding so we can understand what the right size of facility is. This is exactly the same level of work that's been done at Camino Rojo.
Darren Hall: Yeah. For clarification on that as well, it's the prudent step forward to get in and start getting a higher level of knowledge with respect to the metallurgy, get some bulk samples, do that sort of work as part of it. It doesn't preempt a full funds commitment for the project, as Jason alluded to, in terms of we've got a clearly defined growth capital project schedule in the next couple of years. This is the continuing learning of, just like we'll have it at Los Filos, right? There's work that will be spent to be able to progress the understanding so we can understand what the right size of facility is. This is exactly the same level of work that's been done at Camino Rojo.
Speaker #6: Get some bulk samples, do that sort of work as part of it. It doesn't preempt a full funds commitment for the project as Jason alluded to in terms of we've got to clearly define growth capital project schedule in the next couple of years.
Speaker #6: This is the continuing learning of just like we'll have it at Los Pilos, right? There's work that will be spent to be able to progress the understanding so we can understand what the right size of facility is.
Speaker #6: This is exactly the same level of work that's been done at Camino Rojo. And again, there's a larger boulder stronger organization allows us to be able to take a very methodical and thoughtful approach to those development projects and spend a little bit more money upfront to understand exactly what we're dealing with so that when we make commitments, we're very, very clear on what we're committing to and can do it with a significantly higher degree of confidence.
Darren Hall: As a larger, bolder, stronger organization, it allows us to be able to take a very methodical and thoughtful approach to those development projects and spend a little bit more money upfront to understand exactly what we're dealing with, so that when we make commitments, we're very, very clear on what we're committing to and can do it with a significantly higher degree of confidence. That's what those funding's for. No, it's a very good move.
Darren Hall: As a larger, bolder, stronger organization, it allows us to be able to take a very methodical and thoughtful approach to those development projects and spend a little bit more money upfront to understand exactly what we're dealing with, so that when we make commitments, we're very, very clear on what we're committing to and can do it with a significantly higher degree of confidence. That's what those funding's for. No, it's a very good move.
Speaker #6: And that's what those fundings for, so. No, it's a very good move.
Speaker #8: Got it. Thank you. And back to Valentine I understand things are a little bit in flux with the ramp-up. On the grade outlook, I guess more so is it skews into 2027.
Josh Wilson: Thank you. Back to Valentine. I understand things are a little bit in flux with the ramp up. On the grade outlook, I guess more so as it skews into 2027, is it fair to assume, the disclosures the company's made on mining selectivity challenges and looking to increase throughput to offset that, is it fair to say that the grades are likely to remain in line with the H2 of the year? Or should we still expect an improvement? Similarly on the unit costs, is there any sort of perspective that can be provided on what are steady state unit costs? Especially given that throughput rates are already very high, why would they decline going forward? Thank you.
Josh Wilson: Thank you. Back to Valentine. I understand things are a little bit in flux with the ramp up. On the grade outlook, I guess more so as it skews into 2027, is it fair to assume, the disclosures the company's made on mining selectivity challenges and looking to increase throughput to offset that, is it fair to say that the grades are likely to remain in line with the H2 of the year? Or should we still expect an improvement? Similarly on the unit costs, is there any sort of perspective that can be provided on what are steady state unit costs? Especially given that throughput rates are already very high, why would they decline going forward? Thank you.
Speaker #8: Is it fair to assume the disclosures the companies made on mining selectivity challenges and looking to increase throughput to offset that, is it fair to say that the grades are likely to remain in line with the second half of the year or should we still expect an improvement?
Speaker #8: And then, similarly on the unit costs, is there any sort of perspective that can be provided on what are steady-state unit costs? And especially, given that throughput rates are already very high, why would they decline going forward?
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Yeah. Yeah. I guess there's two parts. Let's just tackle the grade issue. If we think about grade, in the back half of the year, we will have a higher grade than we did in the front half of the year.
Darren Hall: Yeah. I guess there's two parts. Let's just tackle the grade issue. If we think about grade, in the H2 of the year, we will have a higher grade than we did in the H1 of the year. That's going to be reflective of improved performance, which will continue into 2027, and to 2028. By the end of 2028, you've got a doubling of the size of the plant. The exposure on selectivity becomes less. In terms of the unit costs, ubiquitously across the portfolio, we've seen tension from a, just like everyone else has, on fuel prices. There's about $100 an ounce of increase in spend or cost across our business with respect to WTI and related costs. At Valentine, it's a little higher. It's probably in the order of closer to probably $200 between volume and price this year.
Darren Hall: Yeah. I guess there's two parts. Let's just tackle the grade issue. If we think about grade, in the H2 of the year, we will have a higher grade than we did in the H1 of the year. That's going to be reflective of improved performance, which will continue into 2027, and to 2028. By the end of 2028, you've got a doubling of the size of the plant. The exposure on selectivity becomes less. In terms of the unit costs, ubiquitously across the portfolio, we've seen tension from a, just like everyone else has, on fuel prices. There's about $100 an ounce of increase in spend or cost across our business with respect to WTI and related costs. At Valentine, it's a little higher. It's probably in the order of closer to probably $200 between volume and price this year.
Speaker #6: That's going to be reflective of improved performance, which will continue into 2027. And to 28, by the end of 28, you've got a doubling of the size of the plant.
Speaker #6: So the exposure on selectivity becomes less. In terms of the unit costs, ubiquitously across the portfolio, we've seen tension from just like everyone else has, on fuel prices.
Speaker #6: There's about $100 an ounce of increase in spend or cost across our business with respect to WTI and related costs. At Valentine, it's a little higher.
Speaker #6: It's probably in the order of closer to probably $200 between volume and price. This year, we have seen additional resources that we've added to work through the effectiveness so we can become more efficient.
Darren Hall: We have seen additional resources that we've added to work through the effectiveness so we can become more efficient. We will see that spend start to trail off through the back end of the year and into 2027. I think we'll see that those unit costs will come down as a function of efficiency. It will obviously be positively impacted by a denominator increase in terms of more metal, but you'll also see less spend for any volume as a consequence of the team getting better at how I'm working at the Mesquite Mine. Part of the normal kind of ramp-up process, and arguably, we were probably overly aggressive about the rate at which we would get to that kind of steady state, if you will, when we foreshadowed the 2026 guidance. Jason, you've been through this before, bud.
Darren Hall: We have seen additional resources that we've added to work through the effectiveness so we can become more efficient. We will see that spend start to trail off through the back end of the year and into 2027. I think we'll see that those unit costs will come down as a function of efficiency. It will obviously be positively impacted by a denominator increase in terms of more metal, but you'll also see less spend for any volume as a consequence of the team getting better at how I'm working at the Mesquite Mine. Part of the normal kind of ramp-up process, and arguably, we were probably overly aggressive about the rate at which we would get to that kind of steady state, if you will, when we foreshadowed the 2026 guidance. Jason, you've been through this before, bud.
Speaker #6: We will see those that spend start to trail off through the back end of the year and into 2027. So I think we'll see that those unit costs will come down as a function of efficiency if it will obviously be positively impacted by a denominator increase in terms of more metal, but you'll also see less spend for any volume as a consequence of the team getting better and working out the kinks in.
Speaker #6: Part of the normal kind of ramp-up process and arguably we were probably overly aggressive about the rate at which we would get to that kind of steady state, if you will, when we foreshadowed the 2026 guidance.
Speaker #6: I mean, Jason, you've been through this before, but.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Yeah. Very typical ramp-up process where we are trying to resolve various issues and spending a bit more to get through them just to deliver the results.
Jason Simpson: Yeah. Very typical ramp-up process, where we are trying to resolve various issues and spending a bit more to get through them just to deliver the results. Absolutely consistent as part of the ramp-up process. As you've articulated clearly, and Josh, you know this well, you need to do both. Start to reduce the numerator spending, which you will do as your teams get organized, as they get a flow of what they need to be doing, everything from geologists to truck operators.
Jason Simpson: Yeah. Very typical ramp-up process, where we are trying to resolve various issues and spending a bit more to get through them just to deliver the results. Absolutely consistent as part of the ramp-up process. As you've articulated clearly, and Josh, you know this well, you need to do both. Start to reduce the numerator spending, which you will do as your teams get organized, as they get a flow of what they need to be doing, everything from geologists to truck operators.
Speaker #8: So absolutely consistent as part of the ramp-up process. And as you've articulated clearly and Josh, you know this well, you need to do both, start to reduce the numerator spending, which you will do as your teams get organized as they get a flow of what they need to be doing, everything from geologists to truck operators.
Speaker #8: And then once they get better at that, the costs drop and the ounces then follow. In the case of Valentine, of course, achieving a greater grade introduced to the mill before it gets expanded and simultaneously with doing that, we're expanding the mill so that we'll be at that $5 million ton per year.
Jason Simpson: Once they get better at that, the costs drop and the ounces then follow. In the case of Valentine, of course, achieving a greater grade introduced to the mill before it gets expanded. Simultaneously with doing that, we're expanding the mill so that we'll be at that 5 million tons per year.
Jason Simpson: Once they get better at that, the costs drop and the ounces then follow. In the case of Valentine, of course, achieving a greater grade introduced to the mill before it gets expanded. Simultaneously with doing that, we're expanding the mill so that we'll be at that 5 million tons per year.
Speaker #8: Great. Thank you.
Josh Wilson: Great. Thank you.
Josh Wilson: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #7: The next question is from Mohammed Sivade with National Bank. Please go ahead.
Operator 3: The next question is from Mohammed Subedar with National Bank. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question is from Mohammed Subedar with National Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Darren. And Jason, for taking my question. So maybe continuing on Valentine, specifically on the unit costs, and as it relates to the GNA, I think that's also slightly higher than what we expected in the technical report there.
Mohammed Subedar: Thanks, Darren and Jason, for taking my question. Maybe continuing on Valentine, specifically on the unit cost, and as it relates to the G&A there, I think that's also slightly higher than what we expected in the technical report there. Is that just as a result of more labor hours or more manpower required, versus your tech report, and how do you expect that to advance over the next six to 12 months outside there? Thank you.
Mohamed Sidibé: Thanks, Darren and Jason, for taking my question. Maybe continuing on Valentine, specifically on the unit cost, and as it relates to the G&A there, I think that's also slightly higher than what we expected in the technical report there. Is that just as a result of more labor hours or more manpower required, versus your tech report, and how do you expect that to advance over the next six to 12 months outside there? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Is that just as a result of more labor hours or more manpower required versus your tech report? And how do you expect that to call it advance over the next, call it 6 to 12 months at site there?
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Yeah. Okay, Mohammed. Yeah. Assalamualaikum. Hey, just a I think it tails onto the last part of the conversation that Jason and I were having here is that it's a reflection of the on-cost associated with supporting the activity that we've seen increasing in terms of mining and those sort of things.
Darren Hall: Yeah. Okay, Mohamed. Yeah. As-salamu alaykum. Hey. I think it tails onto the last part of the conversation that Jason and I were having here is that it's a reflection of the on-cost associated with supporting the activity that we've seen increasing in terms of mining and those sort of things, it's a direct relationship, too. As those efficiencies come on, you'll see the G&A costs go down because it's not really G&A, it's site services and support, it's camping, it's messing, it's those sort of things that go into it, which is the majority of that tension on that, quote-unquote, G&A space. Full disclosure, it's in the order of $10 million for the full year, is what it is above what we saw. That'll probably come down to single digits at an annualized rate between now and the end of the year.
Darren Hall: Yeah. Okay, Mohamed. Yeah. As-salamu alaykum. Hey. I think it tails onto the last part of the conversation that Jason and I were having here is that it's a reflection of the on-cost associated with supporting the activity that we've seen increasing in terms of mining and those sort of things, it's a direct relationship, too. As those efficiencies come on, you'll see the G&A costs go down because it's not really G&A, it's site services and support, it's camping, it's messing, it's those sort of things that go into it, which is the majority of that tension on that, quote-unquote, G&A space. Full disclosure, it's in the order of $10 million for the full year, is what it is above what we saw. That'll probably come down to single digits at an annualized rate between now and the end of the year.
Speaker #6: It's a direct relationship too. So as those efficiencies come on, you'll see the GNA costs go down because there's not really GNA. It's site services and support.
Speaker #6: It's camping. It's messing. It's those sort of things that go into it, which is the majority of that tension on that, quote-unquote, GNA space.
Speaker #6: And full disclosure, it's in the order of 10 million dollars for the full year. Is what it is above what we saw, and that'll probably come down to single digits.
Speaker #6: Over the course of yeah, and an annualized rate between now and the end of the year.
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks a lot for that call, Darren. And then maybe I have the consolidated level when I'm looking at your revised orange staining cost guidance there.
Mohammed Subedar: Great. Thanks a lot for that comment, Darren. Then maybe at the consolidated level, when I'm looking at your revised all-in sustaining cost guidance there. Could you share what the assumptions on gold price, fuel price you're now using versus what the Equinox standalone was, in order to just better understand where that delta is so that when fuel prices start to pare off, we could see maybe how that can improve. Thank you.
Mohamed Sidibé: Great. Thanks a lot for that comment, Darren. Then maybe at the consolidated level, when I'm looking at your revised all-in sustaining cost guidance there. Could you share what the assumptions on gold price, fuel price you're now using versus what the Equinox standalone was, in order to just better understand where that delta is so that when fuel prices start to pare off, we could see maybe how that can improve. Thank you.
Speaker #5: So could you share what the assumptions on gold price, fuel price you're now using versus what the Equinox standalone was in order to choose better understand what that delta is?
Speaker #5: So that when fuel prices started to pare off, we could see maybe how that can improve. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah. On fuel price, fuel price, it's Peter. And thanks for the question, Mohammed. Fuel prices we have assumed about 50% higher across the board consolidated fuel prices from original plan and guidance overall.
Peter Hardie: Yeah. On fuel price, it's Peter, and thanks for the question, Mohamed. Fuel prices, we have assumed about 50% higher across the board consolidated fuel prices from original plan and guidance overall. As we see, hopefully as we think we hopefully see things modulate here in the near future, we expect that to return down back to what the original plan was.
Peter Hardie: Yeah. On fuel price, it's Peter, and thanks for the question, Mohamed. Fuel prices, we have assumed about 50% higher across the board consolidated fuel prices from original plan and guidance overall. As we see, hopefully as we think we hopefully see things modulate here in the near future, we expect that to return down back to what the original plan was.
Speaker #4: And so as we see hopefully as we think we hopefully see things modulate here in the near future, we expect that to return down back to what original plan was.
Speaker #6: And so in short, it's basically reflecting average price year to date going forward.
Darren Hall: In short, it's basically reflecting average price year to date going forward.
Darren Hall: In short, it's basically reflecting average price year to date going forward.
Speaker #4: Yeah.
Peter Hardie: Yeah.
Peter Hardie: Yeah.
Speaker #6: Right? And that's probably our best crystal ball. And we will be wrong. Right? And hopefully that like everyone, that we're wrong to the conservative.
Darren Hall: Right? That's probably our best crystal ball, and we will be wrong, right? Hopefully that, like everyone, that we're wrong to the conservative.
Darren Hall: Right? That's probably our best crystal ball, and we will be wrong, right? Hopefully that, like everyone, that we're wrong to the conservative.
Speaker #5: And is that the same for gold? So is that assuming about 4,500 all-brown gold or?
Mohammed Subedar: Is that the same for gold? Is that assuming about $4,500 per ounce gold or?
Mohamed Sidibé: Is that the same for gold? Is that assuming about $4,500 per ounce gold or?
Speaker #6: Well, and I guess there's two parts to that, right? The gold price—the effect on gold price—is only in royalties and those related costs, right?
Darren Hall: Well, I guess there's two parts to that, right? Gold price, the effect on gold price is only in royalties and those related costs, right? Just be clear that there's very little of our business that's impacted by gold price, and there's very few decisions we make on a day-to-day basis that are impacted by the gold price because we're spending capital like it's our own, and we're making the right decisions for the long term. In terms of the gold price assumption used.
Darren Hall: Well, I guess there's two parts to that, right? Gold price, the effect on gold price is only in royalties and those related costs, right? Just be clear that there's very little of our business that's impacted by gold price, and there's very few decisions we make on a day-to-day basis that are impacted by the gold price because we're spending capital like it's our own, and we're making the right decisions for the long term. In terms of the gold price assumption used.
Speaker #6: So just be clear that there's very little of our business that's impacted by gold price, and there's very few decisions we make on a day-to-day basis that are impacted by the gold price.
Speaker #6: Because we're spending capital like it's our own, and we're making the right decisions for the long term. But in terms of the gold price assumption used—
Speaker #4: It's very close, actually, to current gold price. So you shouldn't see too much tension there.
Peter Hardie: It's very close, actually, to current gold price. You shouldn't see too much tension there.
Peter Hardie: It's very close, actually, to current gold price. You shouldn't see too much tension there.
Speaker #6: Yeah. So if we see gold go to $6,000 an ounce between now and the end of the year, you will see some additional tension from the royalties and related costs of the employment through.
Darren Hall: Yeah. If we see gold go to $6,000 an ounce between now and the end of the year, you will see some additional tension from the royalties and related costs that then flow back through. That'll be an easy discussion to have.
Darren Hall: Yeah. If we see gold go to $6,000 an ounce between now and the end of the year, you will see some additional tension from the royalties and related costs that then flow back through. That'll be an easy discussion to have.
Speaker #6: But that'll be an easy discussion to have.
Mohammed Subedar: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Mohamed Sidibé: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #7: The next question is from Adrian Day with Adrian Day Asset Management. Please go ahead.
Operator 3: The next question is from Adrian Day with Adrian Day Asset Management. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question is from Adrian Day with Adrian Day Asset Management. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Good morning. I'm sorry. I didn't put myself in queue, so I don't know how that happened. I apologize.
Adrian Day: Yeah, good morning. I'm sorry, I didn't put myself in queue, so I don't know how that happened. I apologize.
Adrian Day: Yeah, good morning. I'm sorry, I didn't put myself in queue, so I don't know how that happened. I apologize.
Speaker #6: Okay, Adrian. Well, thank you very much for your support anyway, and have a nice day.
Darren Hall: Okay, Adrian. Well, thank you very much for your support anyway, and have a nice day.
Darren Hall: Okay, Adrian. Well, thank you very much for your support anyway, and have a nice day.
Speaker #7: And our last question is from Jeremy Hoy with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Jeremy Hoy, your line is open.
Operator 3: Our last question is from Jeremy Hoy with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Jeremy Hoy, your line is open.
Operator: Our last question is from Jeremy Hoy with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Jeremy Hoy, your line is open.
Speaker #5: Hi. Good morning. They've taken my questions. With the leadership transition, can we expect to see any other management changes in the near future?
Jeremy Hoy: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. With the leadership transition, can we expect to see any other management changes in the near future?
Jeremy Hoy: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. With the leadership transition, can we expect to see any other management changes in the near future?
Speaker #6: In the release—Jason, sorry, Jeremy— I was looking at Jason when I did it. Actually, in the highlights of the subsequent events, we talked about the team going forward, and no.
Darren Hall: In the release, Jason, sorry, Jeremy. I was looking at Jason when I did it. Actually, in the highlights of subsequent events, we talked about the team going forward and no. We've set the team, we know who it is, and that was part of, again, day one, and I guess that's a little bit unique in this compared to a lot of transactions. We've come out and we've spent the last three months working out who's who in the zoo, if you will, and now we're now building out those teams from that down. No, we're clear on those senior leadership positions. There's some decisions that need to be made below that. As we foreshadowed, we have more than enough work to do to accommodate everyone on both sides of the business.
Darren Hall: In the release, Jason, sorry, Jeremy. I was looking at Jason when I did it. Actually, in the highlights of subsequent events, we talked about the team going forward and no. We've set the team, we know who it is, and that was part of, again, day one, and I guess that's a little bit unique in this compared to a lot of transactions. We've come out and we've spent the last three months working out who's who in the zoo, if you will, and now we're now building out those teams from that down. No, we're clear on those senior leadership positions. There's some decisions that need to be made below that. As we foreshadowed, we have more than enough work to do to accommodate everyone on both sides of the business.
Speaker #6: I mean, we've sent the team. We know who it is, and that was part of again, day one. And I guess that's a little bit unique in this compared to a lot of transactions.
Speaker #6: We've come out and we've spent the last three months working out who's who in the zoo, if you will, and now where now building out those teams from that down.
Speaker #6: So no, we're clear on those senior leadership positions. There's some decisions that need to be made below that. But as we've foreshadowed, we have more than enough work to do to accommodate everyone on both sides of the business.
Speaker #6: So retention of human capital is really our challenge rather than necessarily working out who shouldn't be here. We see it across the industry. We're blessed by having great teams on both sides, and utilizing and those people to the betterment of the product is what our focus is.
Darren Hall: Retention of human capital is really our challenge rather than necessarily working out who shouldn't be here. We see it across the industry. We're blessed by having great teams on both sides and utilizing those people to the betterment of the product is what our focus is. No, I'm very comfortable with where we're at, where we're headed, and I think the team is gelling very, very nicely at this point.
Darren Hall: Retention of human capital is really our challenge rather than necessarily working out who shouldn't be here. We see it across the industry. We're blessed by having great teams on both sides and utilizing those people to the betterment of the product is what our focus is. No, I'm very comfortable with where we're at, where we're headed, and I think the team is gelling very, very nicely at this point.
Speaker #6: So no, I'm very comfortable with where we're at, where we're headed, and I think the team is jelling very, very nicely at this point.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Since the beginning, Darren and I have been talking about the combination of these companies and frankly, the combination of that human capital that is so sought after in our industry.
Jason Simpson: Yeah, since the beginning, Darren and I have been talking about the combination of these companies and frankly, the combination of that human capital that is so sought after in our industry. What we have been announcing in the recent days and what we'll need to sort through in the future is how we can keep everybody within Equinox Gold and make sure everybody understands what they need to do to contribute to our combined success. That's the work ahead of us. It's about understanding who's doing what, hopefully we can retain the majority of that human capital.
Jason Simpson: Yeah, since the beginning, Darren and I have been talking about the combination of these companies and frankly, the combination of that human capital that is so sought after in our industry. What we have been announcing in the recent days and what we'll need to sort through in the future is how we can keep everybody within Equinox Gold and make sure everybody understands what they need to do to contribute to our combined success. That's the work ahead of us. It's about understanding who's doing what, hopefully we can retain the majority of that human capital.
Speaker #4: What we're have been announcing in the recent days and what we'll need to sort through in the future is how we can keep everybody within Equinox Gold and make sure everybody understands what they need to do to contribute to our combined success.
Speaker #4: And that's the work ahead of us. It's about understanding who's doing what and hopefully we can retain the majority of that human capital.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you for that color. The other question I have is a bit of a follow-up on Anita's regarding Los Filos. Most announcements of the merger you guys secured those community agreements and are moving ahead with restart of operations and studies.
Jeremy Hoy: Great. Thank you for that color. The other question I have is a bit of a follow-up on Anita's regarding Los Filos. Post-announcement of the merger, you guys secured those community agreements and are moving ahead with restart of operations and studies. When the deal was announced, I asked what the timeline was to get to 1.9 million ounces. I believe, Jason, the answer was about five years. I'm just wondering, with more time examining the portfolio and the opportunities ahead of you, is that still the timeline you envision? I guess, what's the level of confidence in that? Can we expect to see some of these projects shifted in terms of where they fit in the pipeline?
Jeremy Hoy: Great. Thank you for that color. The other question I have is a bit of a follow-up on Anita's regarding Los Filos. Post-announcement of the merger, you guys secured those community agreements and are moving ahead with restart of operations and studies. When the deal was announced, I asked what the timeline was to get to 1.9 million ounces. I believe, Jason, the answer was about five years. I'm just wondering, with more time examining the portfolio and the opportunities ahead of you, is that still the timeline you envision? I guess, what's the level of confidence in that? Can we expect to see some of these projects shifted in terms of where they fit in the pipeline?
Speaker #5: When the deal was announced, I asked what the timeline was to get to 1.9 million ounces. And I believe, Jason, the answer was about five years.
Speaker #5: I'm just wondering, with more time to examine the portfolio and the opportunities ahead of you, is that still the timeline you envision? And I guess, what's the level of confidence in that?
Speaker #5: Can we expect to see some of these projects shifted in terms of where they fit in the pipeline?
Speaker #6: Maybe I'll kick it off and then Jason and I can do a bit early on this. But the short term, organic growth, as Jason's already talked to, is well-defined.
Darren Hall: Maybe I'll kick it off and then Jason and I can do a bit of an earnie on this. The short-term organic growth, as Jason's already talked to, is well-defined. We've got Valentine, South Railroad, and then we'll be in a position middle of 2025 to make a decision in and around Castle Mountain. In the background, we'll be progressing and doing the work that we need to do in Mexico to be able to surface value from that. That comes from Camino Rojo underground or a potential open-pit expansion. That's why we're continuing with the underground portal to get bulk samples to understand metallurgy, which is obviously key to that asset. Los Filos, we're doing the work in the background on scoping level studies to understand the benefit that can come from a larger process plant and what that means.
Darren Hall: Maybe I'll kick it off and then Jason and I can do a bit of an earnie on this. The short-term organic growth, as Jason's already talked to, is well-defined. We've got Valentine, South Railroad, and then we'll be in a position middle of 2025 to make a decision in and around Castle Mountain. In the background, we'll be progressing and doing the work that we need to do in Mexico to be able to surface value from that. That comes from Camino Rojo underground or a potential open-pit expansion. That's why we're continuing with the underground portal to get bulk samples to understand metallurgy, which is obviously key to that asset. Los Filos, we're doing the work in the background on scoping level studies to understand the benefit that can come from a larger process plant and what that means.
Speaker #6: We've got Valentine South Railroad and then we'll be in a position, middle of next year to make a decision in and around Castle Mountain.
Speaker #6: In the background, we'll be progressing and doing the work that we need to do in Mexico to be able to surface value from that.
Speaker #6: And that comes from Camino Rojo Underground, right? Or a potential open pit expansion. And that's why we're continuing with the underground portal to get bulk samples to understand metallurgy, which is obviously key to that asset.
Speaker #6: Los Filos, we're doing the work in the background on scoping-level studies to understand the benefit that can come from a larger process plant and what that means.
Speaker #6: So, over the next year or two, those things will flesh out. But no, we're very, very comfortable with what we see in terms of that organic growth profile, and if you look at the leverage that we have from the asset base—without even considering the Mexico opportunity—it's significant going forward.
Darren Hall: Over the next year or two, those things will flesh out. We're very, very comfortable in what we see in terms of that organic growth profile. If you look at the leverage that we have from the asset base without even considering the Mexico opportunity, it's significant going forward. No, I think that what we've been talking about for the last couple of months remains. There will be, as always, timing changes as we work through understand. Could there be Sophie's choices in the future? Yeah, absolutely. It's not going to come from a liquidity or ability to pay. It's going to be from what makes sense from the organization to be able to bolt these things on and realize the full potential of our existing assets. We haven't talked at all about Musselwhite.
Darren Hall: Over the next year or two, those things will flesh out. We're very, very comfortable in what we see in terms of that organic growth profile. If you look at the leverage that we have from the asset base without even considering the Mexico opportunity, it's significant going forward. No, I think that what we've been talking about for the last couple of months remains. There will be, as always, timing changes as we work through understand. Could there be Sophie's choices in the future? Yeah, absolutely. It's not going to come from a liquidity or ability to pay. It's going to be from what makes sense from the organization to be able to bolt these things on and realize the full potential of our existing assets. We haven't talked at all about Musselwhite.
Speaker #6: So no, I think that what we've been talking about for the last couple of months remains. There will be as always timing changes as we work through understand.
Speaker #6: And yeah, there could there be Sophie's choices in the future? Yeah, absolutely. But it's not going to come from a liquidity or a ability to pay.
Speaker #6: It's going to be from what makes sense from the organization to be able to bolt these things on and realize the full potential of our existing assets.
Speaker #6: Yeah, we haven't talked at all about muscle weight. We haven't talked about the fact that we have a million and a half ton a year facility that we're only using a million ton of.
Darren Hall: We haven't talked about the fact that we have a 1.5 million tonne a year facility that we're only using 1 million tonne of. If you look at the opportunity that can be surfaced there, we're not talking about $150 to $200 million annually of exploration burn and what that will generate in terms of optionality of our existing assets. We're going to be spoiled for choices, and I think that what we have foreshadowed in the business and position going forward, I think is a fair representation. It will change, and I think it'll only change for the positive.
Darren Hall: We haven't talked about the fact that we have a 1.5 million tonne a year facility that we're only using 1 million tonne of. If you look at the opportunity that can be surfaced there, we're not talking about $150 to $200 million annually of exploration burn and what that will generate in terms of optionality of our existing assets. We're going to be spoiled for choices, and I think that what we have foreshadowed in the business and position going forward, I think is a fair representation. It will change, and I think it'll only change for the positive.
Speaker #6: And if you look at the opportunity that can be surfaced there, we're not talking about 150 to 200 million dollars. Annually of exploration. Burn and what that will generate in terms of optionality at our existing assets.
Speaker #6: So there's going to be we're going to be spoiled for choices. And I think that what we have foreshadowed in the business and position going forward, I think is a fair representation.
Speaker #6: But it will change. And I think it'll only change for the positive.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Darren, I'll layer on frankly, the business needs a focus on the next six months of execution and delivery. But a business this size has to look across the entire portfolio and make sure that we have work progressing everything from exploration finding more ounces for the future, the projects that you asked the question about projects in Mexico that you asked the question about making sure that we're doing the data collection and study work to set those assets up in the years to come, which is what we're doing this year and next.
Jason Simpson: Yeah. Darren, I'll layer on. Frankly, the business needs to focus on the next 6 months of execution and delivery. A business this size has to look across the entire portfolio and make sure that we have work progressing everything from exploration, finding more ounces for the future. The projects in Mexico that you asked the question about, making sure that we're doing the data collection and study work to set those assets up in the years to come, which is what we're doing this year and 2025, so that we're doing the study work. Then, of course, more near term, the 6 months that I talked to, but also advancing the construction starts in Nevada, followed by Castle Mountain, the expansion that we just got approved yesterday in Newfoundland.
Jason Simpson: Yeah. Darren, I'll layer on. Frankly, the business needs to focus on the next 6 months of execution and delivery. A business this size has to look across the entire portfolio and make sure that we have work progressing everything from exploration, finding more ounces for the future. The projects in Mexico that you asked the question about, making sure that we're doing the data collection and study work to set those assets up in the years to come, which is what we're doing this year and 2025, so that we're doing the study work. Then, of course, more near term, the 6 months that I talked to, but also advancing the construction starts in Nevada, followed by Castle Mountain, the expansion that we just got approved yesterday in Newfoundland.
Speaker #4: So that we're doing the study work and then, of course, more near term, the six months I talked to, but also advancing the construction starts in Nevada followed by Castle Mountain.
Speaker #4: The expansion that we just got approved yesterday in Newfoundland. So we as a larger business need to focus on all ends of our pipeline to make sure that we are as Darren likes to say, laying track in front of the train and then making sure that the trains arrive on time so that this bigger business is now stronger because we have all of those choices that Darren talked about.
Jason Simpson: We, as a larger business, need to focus on all ends of our pipeline to make sure that we are, as Darren likes to say, laying track in front of the train, making sure that the trains arrive on time. This bigger business is now stronger because we have all of those choices that Darren talked about. In the future, we have to acknowledge that our choices of capital allocation will not be governed by our ability to fund them and will be governed by making sure that we're methodical in our selection of what we build, when to deliver the best value return for investors, as approved by the board in the years to come.
Jason Simpson: We, as a larger business, need to focus on all ends of our pipeline to make sure that we are, as Darren likes to say, laying track in front of the train, making sure that the trains arrive on time. This bigger business is now stronger because we have all of those choices that Darren talked about. In the future, we have to acknowledge that our choices of capital allocation will not be governed by our ability to fund them and will be governed by making sure that we're methodical in our selection of what we build, when to deliver the best value return for investors, as approved by the board in the years to come.
Speaker #4: And in the future, we have to acknowledge that our choices of capital allocation will not be governed by our ability to fund them. And we'll be governed by making sure that we're methodical in our selection of what we build, when to deliver the best value return for investors, as approved by the board in the years to come.
Speaker #6: Yeah, it's keeping in mind that the reason we exist is we're a financial instrument to create shareholder value through share price appreciation and all of our capital allocation decisions were made in that mindset.
Darren Hall: Yeah, just keeping in mind that the reason we exist is we're a financial instrument to create shareholder value through share price appreciation. All of our capital allocation decisions were made in that mindset. It won't be growth for growth's sake. It'll be about value creation for the people that own the business, which is you all. Appreciate the questions and appreciate the support that we have seen in both companies, we look forward to that continued support going forward.
Darren Hall: Yeah, just keeping in mind that the reason we exist is we're a financial instrument to create shareholder value through share price appreciation. All of our capital allocation decisions were made in that mindset. It won't be growth for growth's sake. It'll be about value creation for the people that own the business, which is you all. Appreciate the questions and appreciate the support that we have seen in both companies, we look forward to that continued support going forward.
Speaker #6: It won't be growth for growth's sake. It'll be about value creation for the people that own the business, which is yours. So, no, appreciate the questions and appreciate the support that we have seen in both companies, and we look forward to that continued support going forward.
Speaker #5: Understood. Thank you for taking my questions and have a great day.
Jeremy Hoy: Understood. Thank you for taking my questions, have a great day.
Jeremy Hoy: Understood. Thank you for taking my questions, have a great day.
Speaker #6: Appreciate it. Thanks, Jeremy.
Darren Hall: Appreciate it. Thanks, Jeremy.
Darren Hall: Appreciate it. Thanks, Jeremy.
Speaker #2: I'd like to pass the floor back over to Ingrid Ricote.
Operator 3: I'd like to pass the floor back over to Ingrid Ricote.
Operator: I'd like to pass the floor back over to Ingrid Ricote.
Speaker #7: Thank you, operator. We're almost at the hour. So Etienne and myself will be available and we'll be answering the questions that came on the webcast.
Ingrid Rico: Thank you, operator. We're almost at the hour, Etienne and myself will be available, We'll be answering the questions that came on the webcast. I'll pass over the call to Darren for his closing remarks.
Ingrid Rico: Thank you, operator. We're almost at the hour, Etienne and myself will be available, We'll be answering the questions that came on the webcast. I'll pass over the call to Darren for his closing remarks.
Speaker #7: And I'll pass over the call to Darren for his closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Yeah, thanks, Ingrid. And thanks again, everyone on the call. I'd like to thank all of our shareholders for their continued support. Over the coming months, I'll be working closely with Jason, who'll assume the role of chief executive officer or promo retirement from Equinox.
Darren Hall: Yeah. Thanks, Ingrid, and thanks again to everyone on the call. I'd like to thank all of our shareholders for their continued support. Over the coming months, I'll be working closely with Jason, who will assume the role of chief executive officer upon my retirement from Equinox. Leading Equinox has been one of the greatest privileges of my career. I'm incredibly proud of the team we have around the table and throughout the business and what we've accomplished in all precursor companies to get us to that point. Every decision that's been made throughout all of those businesses has positioned us with the privilege to be able to build on that basis going forward. I'm very, very proud of what we've all been able to do and where we're at. Jason's exceptionally well-positioned to lead Equinox through its next phase of growth and value creation.
Darren Hall: Yeah. Thanks, Ingrid, and thanks again to everyone on the call. I'd like to thank all of our shareholders for their continued support. Over the coming months, I'll be working closely with Jason, who will assume the role of chief executive officer upon my retirement from Equinox. Leading Equinox has been one of the greatest privileges of my career. I'm incredibly proud of the team we have around the table and throughout the business and what we've accomplished in all precursor companies to get us to that point. Every decision that's been made throughout all of those businesses has positioned us with the privilege to be able to build on that basis going forward. I'm very, very proud of what we've all been able to do and where we're at. Jason's exceptionally well-positioned to lead Equinox through its next phase of growth and value creation.
Speaker #6: Leading Equinox has been one of the greatest privileges of my career. I'm incredibly proud of the team we have around the table and throughout the business.
Speaker #6: And what we've accomplished in all precursor companies to get us to that point. Every decision that's been made throughout all of those businesses has positioned us with the privilege to be able to build on that basis going forward.
Speaker #6: So I'm very, very proud of what we've all been able to do and where we're at. And Jason's exceptionally well positioned to lead Equinox through its next phase of growth and value creation.
Speaker #6: I have complete confidence in Jason and his ability to guide the company forward. And as we've foreshadowed, I'll be around and available too, supporting the initiative as a very interested shareholder, right?
Darren Hall: I have complete confidence in Jason and his ability to guide the company forward. As we foreshadowed, I'll be around and available too, and supporting the initiative as a very interested shareholder. As always, the leadership team are available if you have any further questions. Again, thank you very much for your participation today, and take care and be well. Back to the operator.
Darren Hall: I have complete confidence in Jason and his ability to guide the company forward. As we foreshadowed, I'll be around and available too, and supporting the initiative as a very interested shareholder. As always, the leadership team are available if you have any further questions. Again, thank you very much for your participation today, and take care and be well. Back to the operator.
Speaker #6: So as always, the leadership team are available. If you have any further questions and again, thank you very much for your participation today and take care and be well.
Speaker #6: Back to the operator.
Operator 3: This brings to a close today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.
Operator: This brings to a close today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.