Q2 2026 Meta Platforms Inc Earnings Call

July 29, 2026

Speaker #1: Good afternoon. My name is Krista, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Meta's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call.

Operator: Good afternoon. My name is Krista, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Meta's Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, again, press star 1. We ask that you limit yourself to 1 question, and this call will be recorded. Thank you very much. Chad Heaton, Meta's Vice President of Finance, you may begin.

Operator: Good afternoon. My name is Krista, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Meta's Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, again, press star one. We ask that you limit yourself to one question, and this call will be recorded. Thank you very much. Chad Heaton, Meta's Vice President of Finance, you may begin.

Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.

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Speaker #1: Chad Heaton, Meta's Vice President of Finance, you may begin.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Meta Platform's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Mark Zuckerberg, CEO, and Susan Lee, CFO.

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Chad Heaton: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Meta Platforms' Q2 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Mark Zuckerberg, CEO, and Susan Li, CFO. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements, which are based on assumptions as of today. Actual results may differ materially as a result of various factors, including those set forth in today's earnings press release and in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. During this call, we will present both GAAP and certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's earnings press release. The earnings press release and an accompanying investor presentation are available on our website at investor.meta.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Speaker #1: Thank you for your patience. Okay, back into a private mode. Amy, waiting on your begin. Okay. So, we are going to go live momentarily.

Speaker #2: Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements, which are based on assumptions as of today. Actual results may differ materially as a result of various factors, including those set forth in today's earnings press release and in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q Q filed with the SEC.

Speaker #1: There will be a brief pause as we start the webcast. I'll begin my introduction and then turn the call over to Mr. Heaton. As a reminder, your lines are open, and anything that you say will be heard on the main call.

Speaker #2: We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. uncertain non-gap financial measures. A reconciliation of gap to non-gap measures is included in today's earnings press release.

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Speaker #1: Thank you. There will be a brief pause as we start the webcast. Please stand by for my scripting. Good afternoon. My name is Krista, and I'll be your conference operator today.

Speaker #2: The earnings press release and an accompanying investor presentation are available on our website at investor.atmeta.com. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Speaker #3: All right. Hey, everyone. Thanks for joining today. We had a strong quarter for our community and business, with 3.6 billion people using at least one of our apps each day.

Speaker #1: At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Meta's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

Mark Zuckerberg: All right. Hey, everyone. Thanks for joining today. We had a strong quarter for our community and business with 3.6 billion people using at least 1 of our apps each day. We reached several milestones. Instagram reached 2 billion daily actives. Threads crossed 500 million monthly actives, making it the fastest-growing conversation app ever. Facebook has reached more than 2 billion daily actives for a while now. WhatsApp just hit an all-time messaging record, peaking at 30 million messages sent per second during the World Cup final. Also, Kunal Shah just joined as our new Head of WhatsApp. He built 1 of India's most important payment companies and will be a great addition to the team. We also shipped some strong new models from Meta Superintelligence Labs and released new glasses.

Mark Zuckerberg: All right. Hey, everyone. Thanks for joining today. We had a strong quarter for our community and business with 3.6 billion people using at least one of our apps each day. We reached several milestones. Instagram reached 2 billion daily actives. Threads crossed 500 million monthly actives, making it the fastest-growing conversation app ever. Facebook has reached more than 2 billion daily actives for a while now. WhatsApp just hit an all-time messaging record, peaking at 30 million messages sent per second during the World Cup final. Also, Kunal Shah just joined as our new Head of WhatsApp. He built one of India's most important payment companies and will be a great addition to the team. We also shipped some strong new models from Meta Superintelligence Labs and released new glasses.

Speaker #3: We reached several milestones. Instagram reached 2 billion daily actives, Threads crossed 500 million monthly actives, making it the fastest-growing conversation app ever. Facebook has reached more than 2 billion daily actives for a while now.

Speaker #1: After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.

Speaker #3: WhatsApp just hit an all-time messaging record, peaking at 30 million messages sent per second during the World Cup final. And as our new head of WhatsApp.

Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, again, press star 1. We ask that you limit yourself to one question. And this call will be recorded. Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: Chad Heaton, Meta's Vice President of Finance, you may begin.

Speaker #3: He built one of India's most important payment companies and will be a great addition to the team. We also shipped some strong new models from Meta's Superintelligence Labs and released new glasses.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Meta Platforms' second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Mark Zuckerberg, CEO, and Susan Li, CFO.

Speaker #3: Overall, the scale and reach of our community across our apps is pretty remarkable, and it gives us a strong platform for delivering new innovations to billions of people.

Mark Zuckerberg: Overall, the scale and reach of our community across our apps is pretty remarkable, and it gives us a strong platform for delivering new innovations to billions of people. The opportunity in front of us is massive. First, we are now at a point where our investments in AI are accelerating every major part of our core business. They're improving the experience for people using our apps, driving better performance for advertisers, and helping our teams build new experiences and ship faster. Second, we are developing new personal agents that will be the foundation for our next wave of products and revenue lines in the months and years ahead. Third, we see a large enterprise opportunity to sell to businesses, including APIs, business agents, potentially selling compute directly and other services that we're building for large customers.

Speaker #3: The opportunity in front of us is massive. First, we are now at a point where our investments in AI are accelerating every major part of our core business.

Speaker #3: They're improving the experience for people using our apps, driving better performance for advertisers, and helping our teams build new experiences and ship faster. Second, we are developing new personal agents that will be the foundation for our next wave of products and revenue lines in the months and years ahead.

Speaker #2: We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. During this call, we will present both GAAP and certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's earnings press release.

Speaker #3: And third, we see a large enterprise opportunity to sell to businesses, including APIs, business agents, potentially selling compute directly and other services that we're building for large customers.

Speaker #2: The earnings press release and an accompanying investor presentation are available on our website at investor.appmeta.com. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Speaker #3: And I want to spend some time today laying out exactly how our investments are delivering results today and the opportunities that we see over time.

Speaker #3: All right. Hey, everyone. Thanks for joining today. We had a strong quarter for our community and business, with 3.6 billion people using at least one of our apps each day.

Speaker #3: For accelerating our core business, we are seeing strong and promising results in several areas. In Instagram and Facebook, I'm very optimistic about our work to integrate large language models into our recommendation systems.

Mark Zuckerberg: I want to spend some time today laying out exactly how our investments are delivering results today and the opportunities that we see over time. For accelerating our core business, we are seeing strong and promising results in several areas. In Instagram and Facebook, I am very optimistic about our work to integrate large language models into our recommendation systems. LLMs add a first principles understanding of what the content is about and why it is compelling, as well as a deeper understanding of what people are interested in and what their goals are when they are using our apps. This means that we can show more relevant and engaging content that better reflects people's goals and interests. Our new Muse Image and Muse Video models will also dramatically expand the universe of content that people can discover across our platforms.

Speaker #3: We reached several milestones. Instagram reached 2 billion daily actives. Threads crossed 500 million monthly actives, making it the fastest-growing conversation app ever. Facebook has had more than 2 billion daily actives for a while now.

Speaker #3: LLMs add a first principles understanding of what the content is about and why it is compelling. As well as a deeper understanding of what people are interested in and what their goals are when they're using our apps.

Speaker #3: WhatsApp just hit an all-time messaging record, peaking at 30 million messages sent per second during the World Cup final. And also, Kunal Shah just joined as our new head of WhatsApp.

Speaker #3: So this means that we can show more relevant and engaging content that better reflects people's goals and interests. Our new Muse image and Muse video models will also dramatically expand the universe of content that people can discover across our platforms.

Mark Zuckerberg: This means that we can show more relevant and engaging content that better reflects people's goals and interests. Our new Muse Image and Muse Video models will also dramatically expand the universe of content that people can discover across our platforms.

Speaker #3: There are already two large sets of content to draw from, first from your friends and the people you follow, and second from creators that you don't follow.

Speaker #3: Overall, the scale and reach of our community across our apps is pretty remarkable, and it gives us a strong platform for delivering new innovations to billions of people.

Speaker #3: But now there is going to be a whole new and nearly infinite universe of personalized content, and this is going to make our services a lot more useful and engaging for people.

Mark Zuckerberg: There are already two large sets of content to draw from. First, from your friends and the people you follow, and second, from creators that you do not follow. Now there is going to be a whole new and nearly infinite universe of personalized content. This is going to make our services a lot more useful and engaging for people. For ads, we are using LLMs to improve how our systems predict and rank the ads that we show. We have expanded the context that we can take into account around a person's organic and ads activity to determine an ad's relevance, driving significant increases in relevance and conversions on both Facebook and Instagram. On a dollar basis, our ads business is reporting faster year-over-year revenue growth than any other company's reported ad business. These AI investments are paying off.

Speaker #3: The opportunity in front of us is massive. First, we are now at a point where our investments in AI are accelerating every major part of our core business.

Speaker #3: For ads, we are using LLMs to improve how our systems predict and rank the ads that we show. We've expanded the context that we can take into account around a person's organic and ads activity to determine an ad's relevance, driving significant increases in relevance and conversions on both Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker #3: And on a dollar basis, our ads business is reporting faster year-over-year revenue growth than any other company is reported ad business. So these AI investments are paying off.

Speaker #3: And third, we see a large enterprise opportunity to sell to businesses, including APIs, business agents, potentially selling compute directly, and other services that we're building for large customers.

Speaker #3: We are also seeing a lot of demand for our new AI-powered creative tools. 9 million small businesses on our platforms are now using at least one of our AI ad creative tools, and we're rolling out new end-to-end creative solutions that help advertisers translate performance data into their creative decisions.

Speaker #3: And I want to spend some time today laying out exactly how our opportunities that we see over time, for accelerating our core business. We are seeing strong and promising results in several areas.

Mark Zuckerberg: We are also seeing a lot of demand for our new AI-powered creative tools. Nine million small businesses on our platforms are now using at least one of our AI ad creative tools, and we are rolling out new end-to-end creative solutions that help advertisers translate performance data into their creative decisions. Muse Image is going to supercharge this. The model can analyze images, improve its own work, and produce better ad variations based on advertiser input. We are getting great feedback on this so far. We also just launched Meta One, a new subscription offering that provides more tools and AI features across our apps. As demand grows, we are going to offer a variety of different tiers and pricing options there as well. I am also excited about how AI is helping our teams speed up product development. Earlier this year, we shipped Instagram Instants.

Speaker #3: Muse image is going to supercharge this. The model can analyze images, improve its own work, and produce better ad variations based on advertiser input.

Speaker #3: In Instagram and Facebook, I'm very optimistic about our work to integrate large language models into our recommendation systems. LLMs add a first-principles understanding of what the content is about and why it is compelling.

Speaker #3: We're getting great feedback on this so far. We also just launched Meta One, a new subscription offering that provides more tools and AI features across our apps, as demand grows, we're going to offer a variety of different tiers and pricing options there as well.

Speaker #3: As well as a deeper understanding of what people are interested in and what their goals are, when they're using our apps. So this means that we can show more relevant and engaging content that better reflects people's goals and interests.

Speaker #3: And I'm also excited about how AI is helping our teams speed up product development. Earlier this year, we shipped Instagram instance. We also just launched Forum, a standalone groups app, and Seller, a standalone marketplace app.

Mark Zuckerberg: We also just launched Meta One, a new subscription offering that provides more tools and AI features across our apps. As demand grows, we are going to offer a variety of different tiers and pricing options there as well. I am also excited about how AI is helping our teams speed up product development. Earlier this year, we shipped Instagram Instants.

Speaker #3: Our new Muse image and Muse video models will also dramatically expand the universe of content that people can discover across our platforms. There are already two large sets of content to draw from: first, from your friends and the people you follow; and second, from creators that you don't follow.

Speaker #3: And I expect it to become a lot easier to ship new apps, so we are planning to build out more ideas and use our recommendation systems to scale them to the people who will find them interesting as we've done with Threads.

Speaker #3: But now, there is going to be a whole new and nearly infinite universe of personalized content, and this is going to make our services a lot more useful and engaging for people.

Mark Zuckerberg: We also just launched Forum, a standalone groups app, and Seller, a standalone marketplace app. I expect it to become a lot easier to ship new apps. We are planning to build out more ideas and use our recommendation systems to scale them to the people who will find them interesting, as we have done with Threads. It has been a little more than a year since we launched Meta Superintelligence Labs, and our trajectory is strong. In the last month, we shipped Muse Spark 1.1 and Muse Image. Since we rebuilt Meta AI and integrated Muse Spark, we have seen a 60% increase in the number of people interacting with the assistant each day, and that continues to grow quickly week over week. Muse Spark 1.1 is a strong agentic encoding model that is very efficient and excels at computer use, tool use, and multimodal understanding.

Speaker #3: It's been a little more than a year since we've launched Meta's Superintelligence Labs, and our trajectory is strong. In the last month, we shipped Muse Spark 1.1 and Muse Image.

Speaker #3: Since we rebuilt Meta AI and integrated Muse Spark, we have seen a 60% increase in the number of people interacting with the assistant each day.

Speaker #3: And that continues to grow quickly week over week. Muse Spark 1.1 is a strong agentic encoding model that is very efficient and excels at computer-use tool use and multimodal understanding.

Speaker #3: And on a dollar basis, our ads business is reporting faster year-over-year revenue growth than any other company's reported ad business. So these AI investments are paying off.

Mark Zuckerberg: Since we rebuilt Meta AI and integrated Muse Spark, we have seen a 60% increase in the number of people interacting with the assistant each day, and that continues to grow quickly week over week. Muse Spark 1.1 is a strong agentic encoding model that is very efficient and excels at computer use, tool use, and multimodal understanding.

Speaker #3: It's available through our new public API, and we are ramping up distribution through partner channels and more coding agents over the coming weeks. We are also building out features to make it easier for enterprises to adopt a Muse Spark, and that is an area that we expect to continue focusing on.

Speaker #3: We are also seeing a lot of demand for our new AI-powered creative tools. Nine million small businesses on our platforms are now using at least one of our AI ad creative tools, and we're rolling out new end-to-end creative solutions that help advertisers translate performance data into their creative decisions.

Mark Zuckerberg: It's available through our new public API. We are ramping up distribution through partner channels and more coding agents over the coming weeks. We are also building out features to make it easier for enterprises to adopt Muse Spark. That is an area that we expect to continue focusing on. One reason that we are so focused on making Muse Spark great at agentic capabilities is that we think that there's a very big opportunity to ship a few types of agents that are aligned with our mission, and business. The first is personal agents. Soon we will have agents that can work 24/7 on your behalf to help you achieve your goals and improve your life, your health, your relationships, your finances, whatever you want.

Speaker #3: One reason that we are so focused on making Muse Spark great at agentic capabilities is that we think that there's a very big opportunity to ship a few types of agents that are aligned with our mission and business.

Speaker #3: Muse image is going to supercharge this. The model can analyze images, improve its own work, and produce better ad variations based on advertiser input.

Speaker #3: The first is personal agents, soon we will have agents that can work 24/7 on your behalf to help you achieve your goals and improve your life, your health, your relationships, your finances, whatever you want.

Speaker #3: We're getting great feedback on this so far. We also just launched Meta One, a new subscription offering that provides more tools and AI features across our apps. As demand grows, we're going to offer a variety of different tiers and pricing options there as well.

Speaker #3: The first domain that agents have really taken off in is coding. But engineers are more technical and willing to spend time making those agents work, so to build great personal agents, this needs to be a great consumer product that just works out of the box and is easy enough for billions of people to adopt and use.

Speaker #3: And I'm also excited about how AI is helping our teams speed up product development. Earlier this year, we shipped Instagram Instants. We also just launched Forum, a standalone groups app, and Seller.

Mark Zuckerberg: The first domain that agents have really taken off in is coding. Engineers are more technical and willing to spend time making those agents work. To build great personal agents, this needs to be a great consumer product that just works out of the box and is easy enough for billions of people to adopt and use. I'm very excited about this. We're going to have more to share soon. As we move towards a future where we're all interacting with multiple agents, I think that WhatsApp and our other messaging surfaces are going to become increasingly important. WhatsApp is already the leading surface where people engage with Meta AI. As we build out a platform for more agents across our messaging apps, we're going to innovate on how to deliver a private and secure AI experience.

Speaker #3: I'm very excited about this, and we're going to have more to share soon. As we move towards a future where we're all interacting with multiple agents, I think that WhatsApp and our other messaging surfaces are going to become increasingly important.

Speaker #3: A standalone marketplace app. And I expect it to become a lot easier to ship new apps, so we are planning to build out more ideas and use our recommendation systems to scale them to the people who will find them interesting, as we've done with Threads.

Speaker #3: WhatsApp is already the leading surface where people engage with Meta AI. And as we build out a platform for more agents across our messaging apps, we're going to innovate on how to deliver a private and secure AI experience.

Speaker #3: It's been a little more than a year since we launched Meta's Superintelligence Labs, and our trajectory is strong. In the last month, we shipped Muse Spark 1.1 and Muse Image.

Speaker #3: We launched Incognito mode this quarter on WhatsApp, and the Meta AI app, allowing people to have private conversations with their assistant that even Meta can't see.

Speaker #3: Since we rebuilt Meta AI and integrated Muse Spark, we have seen a 60% increase in the number of people interacting with the assistant each day.

Speaker #3: And that continues to grow quickly week over week. Muse Spark 1.1 is a strong agentic encoding model that is very efficient and excels at computer-use, tool use, and multimodal understanding.

Speaker #3: We are planning to make strong privacy and security a fundamental part of the agents that we're building as well. I'm also very excited about our progress with business agents.

Mark Zuckerberg: We launched Incognito Mode this quarter on WhatsApp and the Meta AI app, allowing people to have private conversations with their assistant that even Meta can't see. We're planning to make strong privacy and security a fundamental part of the agents that we're building as well. I'm also very excited about our progress with business agents. We made Meta Business Agents available globally this quarter on WhatsApp and Messenger. There are already more than 1 million businesses using them to talk to their customers or complete sales every week. We're rolling business agents out on Instagram now too. One interesting thing about having an agent talk to your customers every day is that it learns over time and can bring all of those insights back to you. We're building more agentic capabilities to summarize all these conversations, digest what happened overnight, and surface what customers are asking for.

Speaker #3: We made Meta Business Agents available globally this quarter on WhatsApp and Messenger, and there are already more than 1 million businesses using them to talk to their customers or complete sales every week.

Speaker #3: We're rolling Business Agents out on Instagram now too. One interesting thing about having an agent talk to your customers every day is that it learns over time and can bring all of those insights back to you.

Speaker #3: One reason that we are so focused on making Muse Spark great at agentic capabilities is that we think there's a very big opportunity to ship a few types of agents that are aligned with our mission and business.

Speaker #3: So we're building more agentic capabilities to summarize all of these conversations, digest what happened overnight, and surface what customers are asking for. And soon it'll go further, including suggesting ways to grow your business, giving you competitive intelligence and real-time insights into what's working and what's not.

Mark Zuckerberg: One interesting thing about having an agent talk to your customers every day is that it learns over time and can bring all of those insights back to you. We're building more agentic capabilities to summarize all these conversations, digest what happened overnight, and surface what customers are asking for.

Speaker #3: The first is personal agents. Soon, we will have agents that can work 24/7 on your behalf to help you achieve your goals and improve your life—your health, your relationships, your finances, whatever you want.

Speaker #3: And over time, we'd like to build this into a Business in a Box service that can help you start and run a whole business using Meta's platforms.

Speaker #3: The first domain that agents have really taken off in is coding. But engineers are more technical and willing to spend time making those agents work.

Mark Zuckerberg: Soon it'll go further, including suggesting ways to grow your business, giving you competitive intelligence, and real-time insights into what's working and what's not. Over time, we'd like to build this into a business-in-a-box service that can help you start and run a whole business using Meta's platforms. In terms of how we will monetize these, we have a mix of subscriptions, volume-based pricing, and I expect that we're going to continue to evolve more of these products to be like our ad systems, where businesses only pay us when we achieve results for them. Over time, that will let us run an efficient auction over our compute, similar to how we do that for advertisers today. As AI usage in our products and businesses continues to ramp, we continue to invest aggressively in infrastructure to meet the demand.

Speaker #3: So to build great personal agents, this needs to be a great consumer product that just works out of the box and is easy enough for billions of people to adopt and use.

Speaker #3: In terms of how we will monetize these, we have a mix of subscriptions volume-based pricing, and I expect that we're going to continue to evolve more of these products to be like our ad systems, where businesses only pay us when we achieve results for them.

Speaker #3: Over time, that will let us run an efficient auction over our compute, similar to how we do that for advertisers today. As AI usage in our products and businesses continues to ramp, we continue to invest aggressively in infrastructure to meet the demand.

Speaker #3: Yesterday, as part of our Meta compute effort, we announced a new strategic venture with BlackRock to develop a new 1-gigawatt data center in El Paso, Texas.

Speaker #3: We launched Incognito mode this quarter on WhatsApp and the Meta AI app, allowing people to have private conversations with their assistant that even Meta can't see.

Speaker #3: Overall, we expect that a significant portion of our compute is going to go towards training our models growing our core business and delivering personal agents and new products but we also expect to grow a large business serving large customers as well.

Mark Zuckerberg: Yesterday, as part of our Meta Compute effort, we announced a new strategic venture with BlackRock to develop a new 1 gigawatt data center in El Paso, Texas. Overall, we expect that a significant portion of our compute is going to go towards training our models, growing our core business, and delivering personal agents and new products. We also expect to grow a large business serving large customers as well. We've built our API. We're rolling out business agents. We're getting a lot of offers for compute at a significant premium over what we paid for it, and we have more coding and productivity tools on our roadmap as well. We'll have more to share on all of this soon. As we get closer to personal superintelligence, we are also going to need hardware that allows you to seamlessly interact with it.

Speaker #3: We are planning to make strong privacy and security a fundamental part of the agents that we're building as well. I'm also very excited about our progress with business agents.

Speaker #3: We've built our API, we're rolling out Business Agents, we're getting a lot of offers for compute at a significant premium over what we paid for it.

Speaker #3: And we have more coding and productivity tools on our roadmap as well. And we'll have more to share on all of this soon. As we get closer to personal superintelligence, we are also going to need hardware that allows you to seamlessly interact with it.

Speaker #3: We're rolling Business Agents out on Instagram now, too. One interesting thing about having an agent talk to your customers every day is that it learns over time and can bring all of those insights back to you.

Mark Zuckerberg: We're rolling out business agents. We're getting a lot of offers for compute at a significant premium over what we paid for it, and we have more coding and productivity tools on our roadmap as well. We'll have more to share on all of this soon. As we get closer to personal superintelligence, we are also going to need hardware that allows you to seamlessly interact with it.

Speaker #3: Glasses are the ideal form factor since they can be with you throughout the day, and they can assist you without pulling you away from the moment.

Speaker #3: So we're building more agentic capabilities to summarize all of these conversations, digest what happened overnight, and surface what customers are asking for. And soon, it'll go further, including suggesting ways to grow your business, giving you competitive intelligence, and real-time insights into what's working and what's not.

Speaker #3: Our glasses remain one of the fastest growing consumer electronics of all time, and we continue adding to the lineup. We just released our own line of Meta glasses in collaboration with SLR Luxottica, including a style that we designed with Kylie Jenner.

Mark Zuckerberg: Glasses are the ideal form factor, since they can be with you throughout the day and they can assist you without pulling you away from the moment. Our glasses remain one of the fastest-growing consumer electronics of all time, we continue adding to the lineup. We just released our own line of Meta glasses in collaboration with EssilorLuxottica, including a style that we designed with Kylie Jenner. They're the first glasses to ship with Muse Spark out of the box so that they can understand what you're seeing and give even more helpful answers. Early sales have been strong, exceeding our expectations, we're going to have more to share on our glasses lineup at this year's Connect conference on 23 September, I encourage you to tune in then.

Speaker #3: And over time, we'd like to build this into a Business-in-a-Box service that can help you start and run a whole business using Meta's platforms.

Speaker #3: They're the first glasses to ship with Muse Spark out of the box so that they can understand what you're seeing and give even more helpful answers.

Speaker #3: Early sales have been strong, exceeding our expectations. And we're going to have more to share on our glasses lineup at this year's Connect Conference on September 23rd, so I encourage you to tune in then.

Speaker #3: In terms of how we will monetize these, we have a mix of subscriptions, volume-based pricing, and I expect that we're going to continue to evolve more of these products to be like our ad systems, where businesses only pay us when we achieve results for them.

Speaker #3: Before I wrap, I want to mention that I just published an op-ed about why I'm so optimistic that we are building a positive future for everyone.

Speaker #3: Over time, that will let us run an efficient auction over our compute, similar to how we do that for advertisers today. As AI usage in our products and businesses continues to ramp up, we continue to invest aggressively in infrastructure to meet the demand.

Speaker #3: At Meta, we have always built technology to put power in people's hands. So that they can connect with the people they care about and shape the world in the ways that they want.

Mark Zuckerberg: Before I wrap, I want to mention that I just published an op-ed about why I'm so optimistic that we are building a positive future for everyone. At Meta, we have always built technology to put power in people's hands, so that they can connect with the people they care about and shape the world in the ways that they want. It's why we've always focused on making our products affordable and accessible for everyone, it's a strategy that has served both our community and our business well. As we enter this next chapter, that same philosophy is guiding how we approach developing AI. We're the only major company building AI with the primary goal of putting superintelligence directly into people's hands.

Speaker #3: Yesterday, as part of our Meta Compute effort, we announced a new strategic venture with BlackRock to develop a new 1-gigawatt data center in El Paso, Texas.

Speaker #3: It's why we've always focused on making our products affordable and accessible for everyone. And it's a strategy that has served both our community and our business well.

Speaker #3: Overall, we expect that a significant portion of our compute is going to go towards training our models, growing our core business, and delivering personal agents and new products.

Speaker #3: As we enter this next chapter, that same philosophy is guiding how we approach developing AI, where the only major company building AI with the primary goal of putting superintelligence directly into people's hands rather than centralizing superintelligence, we are focused on distributing it widely and giving everyone the ability to direct it towards what society has always made progress.

Speaker #3: But we also expect to grow a large business serving large customers as well. We've built our API, we're rolling out Business Agents, and we're getting a lot of offers for compute at a significant premium over what we paid for it.

Speaker #3: And we have more coding and productivity tools on our roadmap as well, and we'll have more to share on all of this soon. As we get closer to personal superintelligence, it allows you to seamlessly interact with it.

Speaker #3: I think that these are the right values for building a positive AI future. And if we help build this, then I think that we will continue to build a very strong business as well.

Mark Zuckerberg: Rather than centralizing superintelligence, we are focused on distributing it widely and giving everyone the ability to direct it towards what matters to them. That's the way that society has always made progress. I think that these are the right values for building a positive AI future, if we help build this, then I think that we will continue to build a very strong business as well. That's everything I wanted to cover upfront today. AI is improving our core business. It's making our apps more relevant and delivering better results for businesses. We're starting to deliver more novel products, we'll have a lot more there soon as well. We are investing aggressively because the potential is huge, and we know that there are many ways to deliver value here. As always, I'm grateful to all of you for being on this journey with us.

Speaker #3: So that's everything I wanted to cover up front today. AI is improving our core business. It's making our apps more relevant and delivering better results for businesses.

Speaker #3: Glasses are the ideal form factor since they can be with you throughout the day, and they can assist you without pulling you away from the moment.

Speaker #3: We're starting to deliver more novel products. And we'll have a lot more there soon as well. And we are investing aggressively because the potential is huge and we know that there are many ways to deliver value here.

Speaker #3: Our glasses remain one of the fastest-growing consumer electronics of all time, and we continue adding to the lineup. We just released our own line of Meta glasses in collaboration with EssilorLuxottica, including a style that we designed with Kylie Jenner.

Mark Zuckerberg: AI is improving our core business. It's making our apps more relevant and delivering better results for businesses. We're starting to deliver more novel products, we'll have a lot more there soon as well. We are investing aggressively because the potential is huge, and we know that there are many ways to deliver value here. As always, I'm grateful to all of you for being on this journey with us.

Speaker #3: As always, I'm grateful to all of you for being on this journey with us. And now, here's Susan.

Speaker #3: They're the first glasses to ship with Muse Spark out of the box, so that they can understand what you're seeing and give even more helpful answers.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Mark. And good afternoon, everyone. Let's begin with our segment results. All comparisons are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. Q2 total family of apps revenue was $60.4 billion up 28% year over year.

Speaker #3: Early sales have been strong, exceeding our expectations. And we're going to have more to share on our glasses lineup at this year's Connect conference on September 23.

Mark Zuckerberg: Now, here's Susan.

Susan Li: Thanks, Mark, and good afternoon, everyone. Let's begin with our segment results. All comparisons are on a year-over-year basis, unless otherwise noted. Q2 total Family of Apps revenue was $60.4 billion, up 28% year-over-year. Q2 Family of Apps ad revenue was $59.4 billion, up 27%, or 26% on a constant currency basis. In Q2, the total number of ad impressions served across our services increased 14%. Impression growth was healthy across all regions, driven by growth in engagement and users, as well as ad load optimizations. The global average price per ad increased 12% year-over-year, driven by ad performance gains, improvements in macro conditions relative to Q2 of last year, and currency tailwinds. This was partially offset by strong impression growth, particularly from lower monetizing surfaces and regions.

Speaker #3: So I encourage you to tune in then. Before I wrap, I want to mention that I just published an op-ed about why I'm so optimistic that we are building a positive future for everyone.

Speaker #1: Q2 family of apps ad revenue was $59.4 billion up 27% or 26% on a constant currency basis. In Q2, the total number of ad impressions served across our services increased 14%.

Speaker #3: At Meta, we have always built technology to put power in people's hands so that they can connect with the people they care about and shape the world in the ways that they want.

Speaker #1: Impression growth was healthy across all regions driven by growth in engagement and users as well as ad load optimizations. The global average price per ad increased 12% year over year, driven by ad performance gains improvements in macro conditions relative to Q2 of last year, and currency tailwinds.

Speaker #3: That's why we've always focused on making our products affordable and accessible for everyone. And it's a strategy that has served both our community and our business well.

Speaker #3: As we enter this next chapter, that same philosophy is guiding how we approach developing AI. We are the only major company building AI with the primary goal of putting superintelligence directly into people's hands, rather than centralizing superintelligence. We are focused on distributing it widely and giving everyone the ability to direct it towards what matters to them.

Speaker #1: This was partially offset by strong impression growth, particularly from lower monetizing surfaces and regions. For the first time, quarterly family of apps other revenue reached $1 billion and grew 73% year over year.

Speaker #3: That's the way that society has always made progress. I think that these are the right values for building a positive AI future. And if we help build this, then I think that we will continue to build a very strong business as well.

Speaker #1: Driven primarily by WhatsApp paid messaging and subscriptions revenue. Within our reality lab segment, Q2 revenue was $431 million. Up 16% year over year due to strong growth in AI glasses revenue, partially offset by lower Quest headset sales.

Susan Li: For the first time, quarterly Family of Apps other revenue reached $1 billion and grew 73% year-over-year, driven primarily by WhatsApp paid messaging and subscriptions revenue. Within our Reality Labs segment, Q2 revenue was $431 million, up 16% year-over-year due to strong growth in AI glasses revenue, partially offset by lower Quest headset sales. Moving now to our consolidated results. Q2 total revenue was $60.8 billion, up 28%, or 27% on a constant currency basis. Q2 total expenses were $42 billion, up 55% compared to last year, and included $2.4 billion in charges related to legal proceedings and $1.2 billion in severance expenses in connection with the May 2026 headcount reduction. Year-over-year growth was primarily driven by increases in employee compensation, infrastructure costs, legal-related costs, and third-party AI token costs.

Speaker #3: So that's everything I wanted to cover up front today. AI is improving our core business—it's making our apps more relevant and delivering better results for businesses.

Speaker #3: We are starting to deliver more novel products, and we'll have a lot more there soon as well. We are investing aggressively because the potential is huge, and we know that there are many ways to deliver value here.

Speaker #1: Moving now to our consolidated results. Q2 total revenue was $60.8 billion up 28% or 27% on a constant currency basis. Q2 total expenses were $42 billion up 55% compared to last year.

Speaker #3: As always, I'm grateful to all of you for being on this journey with us. And now, here's Susan Li.

Speaker #1: And included $2.4 billion in charges related to legal proceedings and $1.2 billion in severance expenses in connection with the May 2026 headcount reduction. Year over year growth was primarily driven by increases in employee compensation infrastructure costs, legal related costs, and third-party AI token costs.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Mark, and good afternoon, everyone. Let's begin with our segment results. All comparisons are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. Q2 total Family of Apps revenue was $60.4 billion, up 28% year over year.

Speaker #1: Q2 family of apps ad revenue was $59.4 billion, up 27%, or 26% on a constant currency basis. In Q2, the total number of ad impressions served across our services increased 14%.

Speaker #1: Excluding the previously mentioned severance expense, growth in employee compensation was driven by technical hires we've added over the past year, particularly AI talent. The growth in infrastructure cost was driven by higher depreciation, data center operating costs, and third-party cloud spend.

Speaker #1: Impression growth was healthy across all regions, driven by growth in engagement and users, as well as ad load optimizations. The global average price per ad increased 12% year over year, driven by ad performance gains, improvements in macro conditions relative to Q2 of last year, and currency tailwinds.

Susan Li: Excluding the previously mentioned severance expense, growth in employee compensation was driven by technical hires we've added over the past year, particularly AI talent. The growth in infrastructure cost was driven by higher depreciation, data center operating costs, and third-party cloud spend. We ended Q2 with over 75,000 employees down 3% from Q1. This total includes approximately 8,000 employees impacted by the May 2026 headcount reduction. We expect the majority of impacted employees will no longer be captured in our headcount by the end of Q3 2026. Second quarter GAAP operating income was $18.8 billion, representing an 8% decline year-over-year and a 31% operating margin. Excluding the Q2 legal charges and severance expenses, our second quarter operating income would have increased 9% year-over-year. Our tax rate for the quarter was 16%. Net income was $15.8 billion, or $6.18 per share.

Speaker #1: We ended Q2 with over 75,000 employees down 3% from Q1. This total includes approximately 8,000 employees impacted by the May 2026 headcount reduction. We expect the majority of impacted employees will no longer be captured in our headcount by the end of Q3 2026.

Speaker #1: Second quarter gap operating income was $18.8 billion representing an 8% decline year over year and a 31% operating margin. Excluding the Q2 legal charges and severance expenses, our second quarter operating income would have increased 9% year over year.

Speaker #1: Driven primarily by WhatsApp paid messaging and subscriptions revenue. Within our Reality Labs segment, Q2 revenue was $431 million, up 16% year over year due to strong growth in AI glasses revenue, partially offset by lower Quest headset sales.

Speaker #1: Our tax rate for the quarter was 16%. Net income was 15.8 billion or $6.18 per share. Capital expenditures including principal payments on finance leases were $31.1 billion driven by investments in servers, data centers, and network infrastructure.

Speaker #1: Moving now to our consolidated results. Q2 total revenue was $60.8 billion, up 28%, or 27% on a constant currency basis. Q2 total expenses were $42 billion.

Speaker #1: Up 55% compared to last year, and included $2.4 billion in charges related to legal proceedings and $1.2 billion in severance expenses in connection with the May 2026 headcount reduction.

Speaker #1: Free cash flow was $784 million. We ended the quarter with $90.3 billion in cash and marketable securities and $83.7 billion in debt. Turning now to the business performance.

Susan Li: Capital expenditures, including principal payments on finance leases, were $31.1 billion, driven by investments in servers, data centers, and network infrastructure. Free cash flow was $784 million. We ended the quarter with $90.3 billion in cash and marketable securities and $83.7 billion in debt. Turning now to the business performance. There are two primary factors that drive our revenue performance: our ability to deliver engaging experiences for our community and our effectiveness at monetizing that engagement over time. On the first, we continue to see significant gains from our content recommendation initiatives. On Instagram, global time spent this quarter grew double digits year-over-year this quarter, largely driven by improvements to our Feed and Reels recommendations. On Facebook, video time spent increased 9% globally year-over-year and over 10% within the US and Canada, where it was driven by ranking improvements.

Speaker #1: There are two primary factors that drive our revenue performance. Our ability to deliver engaging experiences for our community and our effectiveness at monetizing that engagement over time.

Speaker #1: Year-over-year growth was primarily driven by increases in employee compensation, infrastructure costs, legal-related costs, and third-party AI token costs. Excluding the previously mentioned severance expense, growth in employee compensation was driven by technical hires we’ve added over the past year, particularly AI talent.

Speaker #1: On the first, we continue to see significant gains from our content recommendation initiatives. On Instagram, global time spent this quarter grew double digits year over year this quarter, largely driven by improvements to our feed and Reels recommendations.

Speaker #1: The growth in infrastructure costs was driven by higher depreciation, data center operating costs, and third-party cloud spend. We ended Q2 with over 75,000 employees down 3% from Q1.

Speaker #1: On Facebook, video time spent increased 9% globally year over year and over 10% within the US and Canada, where it was driven by ranking improvements.

Speaker #1: This total includes approximately 8,000 employees impacted by the May 2026 headcount reduction. We expect the majority of impacted employees will no longer be captured in our headcount by the end of Q3 2026.

Speaker #1: We are finding that LLMs are increasingly capable of delivering ranking and recommendations gains. First, they make our existing systems smarter. Understanding what the content is actually about and generating better training data.

Speaker #1: Second quarter gap operating income was $18.8 billion. Representing an 8% decline year over year and a 31% operating margin. Excluding the Q2 legal charges and severance expenses, our second quarter operating income would have increased 9% year over year.

Susan Li: We are finding that LLMs are increasingly capable of delivering ranking and recommendations gains. First, they make our existing systems smarter by understanding what the content is actually about and generating better training data. Second, LLM-powered agents are also helping with engineering development by evaluating content quality, detecting trends, and testing ranking changes. Earlier this year, we reached a milestone of every public Reels and Feed post on Instagram being automatically processed through an LLM and analyzed across dimensions from topics to tone, and we're working towards including more surfaces on Facebook as well. These signals can then be passed to downstream applications across ranking, recommendations, and content policy enforcement, which is a key building block toward greater personalization. This quarter, we also began using our Muse family of models to conduct content understanding across signals like video topic classification and summarization, and we've seen positive early results.

Speaker #1: Second, LLM-powered agents are also helping with engineering development by evaluating content quality, detecting trends, and testing ranking changes. Earlier this year, we reached a milestone of every public Reels and feed post on Instagram being automatically processed through an LLM and analyzed across dimensions from topics to tone and we're working towards including more surfaces on Facebook as well.

Speaker #1: Our tax rate for the quarter was 16%. Net income was $15.8 billion, or $6.18 per share. Capital expenditures, including principal payments on finance leases, were $31.1 billion.

Speaker #1: These signals can then be passed to downstream applications across ranking, recommendations, and content policy enforcement, which is a key building block toward greater personalization.

Speaker #1: Driven by investments in servers, data centers, and network infrastructure. Free cash flow was $784 million. We ended the quarter with $90.3 billion in cash and marketable securities, and $83.7 billion in debt.

Speaker #1: This quarter, we also began using our Muse family of models to conduct content understanding across signals like video topic classification and summarization and we've seen positive early results.

Susan Li: These signals can then be passed to downstream applications across ranking, recommendations, and content policy enforcement, which is a key building block toward greater personalization. This quarter, we also began using our Muse family of models to conduct content understanding across signals like video topic classification and summarization, and we've seen positive early results.

Speaker #1: Finally, our recommendations are also becoming more personalized, surfacing more fresh content while giving people more direct control over what they see. On Reels, we shipped our largest single release ranking improvement to date, combining faster inference with a new architecture that draws on deeper user history to improve predictions.

Speaker #1: Turning now to the business performance. There are two primary factors that drive our revenue performance: our ability to deliver engaging experiences for our community and our effectiveness at monetizing that engagement over time.

Susan Li: Finally, our recommendations are also becoming more personalized, surfacing more fresh content while giving people more direct control over what they see. On Reels, we shipped our largest single-release ranking improvement to date, combining faster inference with a new architecture that draws on deeper user history to improve predictions. This drove a 15-basis-point increase in sessions on Instagram, with particular strength in reshares and time spent, which are both strong indicators of better content-to-user matching. We are now bringing this to Feed, where early results look comparable. We are also getting new content to people more quickly. Investments we've made in more real-time infrastructure and modeling improvements on new videos are allowing our largest-ranking models to now identify high-quality new Reels at creation. On Instagram Feed, over half of all recommended content is now less than one day old, more than double from a year ago.

Speaker #1: On the first, we continue to see significant gains from our content recommendation initiatives. On Instagram, global time spent this quarter grew double digits year over year, largely driven by improvements to our Feed and Reels recommendations.

Speaker #1: This drove a 15 basis point increase in sessions on Instagram with particular strength in reshares and time spent. Which are both strong indicators of better content to user matching.

Speaker #1: We are now bringing this to feed where early results look comparable. We're also getting new content to people more quickly. Investments we've made in more real-time infrastructure and modeling improvements on new videos are allowing our largest ranking models to now identify high-quality new Reels creation.

Speaker #1: On Facebook, video time spent increased 9% globally year over year, and over 10% within the US and Canada, where it was driven by ranking improvements.

Speaker #1: We are finding that LLMs are increasingly capable of delivering ranking and recommendation gains. First, they make our existing systems smarter by understanding what the content is actually about and generating better training data.

Speaker #1: On Instagram feed, over half of all recommended content is now less than one day old, more than double from a year ago. We're also giving people more direct control of the content they see.

Susan Li: We are also getting new content to people more quickly. Investments we've made in more real-time infrastructure and modeling improvements on new videos are allowing our largest-ranking models to now identify high-quality new Reels at creation. On Instagram Feed, over half of all recommended content is now less than one day old, more than double from a year ago.

Speaker #1: Second, LLM-powered agents are also helping with engineering development by evaluating content quality, detecting trends, and testing ranking changes. Earlier this year, we reached a milestone of every public Reels and feed post on Instagram being automatically processed through an LLM and analyzed across dimensions from topics to tone, and we're working towards including more surfaces on Facebook as well.

Speaker #1: Today, Instagram users can visit the Your Algo page, which lets users write natural language prompts to tune their recommendations. Similarly, on Facebook, we launched Shape Your Feed.

Speaker #1: Early results show 80% retention among users who engage with it. Looking forward, we're executing on our longer-term efforts to develop the next generation of our recommendation systems.

Susan Li: We're also giving people more direct control of the content they see. Today, Instagram users can visit the Your Algo page, which lets users write natural language prompts to tune their recommendations. Similarly, on Facebook, we launched Shape Your Feed. Early results show over 80% retention among users who engage with it. Looking forward, we're executing on our longer-term efforts to develop the next generation of our recommendation systems. This includes building foundation models that are designed to power organic content and ads recommendations simultaneously, as well as developing LLM-native recommender systems. We hit our first research milestone H1 by continuously pre-training a large-scale model with recommendations data and observing healthy scaling laws in the process. We're encouraged by this milestone and expect continued progress in H2. Turning to the second driver of our revenue performance, increasing monetization efficiency.

Speaker #1: This includes building foundation models that are designed to power organic content and ads recommendations simultaneously as well as developing LLM-native recommender systems. We hit our first research milestone this half by continuously pre-training a large-scale model with recommendations data and observing healthy scaling laws in the process.

Speaker #1: This quarter, we also began using our Muse family of models to conduct content understanding across signals like video topic classification and summarization, and we've seen positive early results.

Speaker #1: We're encouraged by this milestone and expect continued progress in the second half of the year. Turning to the second driver of our revenue performance, increasing monetization efficiency.

Speaker #1: Finally, our recommendations are also becoming more personalized, surfacing more fresh content while giving people more direct control over what they see. On Reels, we shipped our largest single-release ranking improvement to date, combining faster inference with a new architecture that draws on deeper user history to improve predictions.

Speaker #1: The first part of this work is optimizing the level of ads within organic engagement. Here, we continue to enhance our systems to show ads at the optimal time and location.

Speaker #1: In Q2, we also expanded availability of ads on our newer surfaces. Including completing our global ads expansion on Threads. On WhatsApp, we have introduced support for more types of ad destinations and advertiser performance goals and status and continue on track toward our global rollout.

Speaker #1: This drove a 15 basis point increase in sessions on Instagram, with particular strength in reshares and time spent, which are both strong indicators of better content-to-user matching.

Susan Li: The first part of this work is optimizing the level of ads within organic engagement. Here, we continue to enhance our systems to show ads at the optimal time and location. In Q2, we also expanded availability of ads on our newer services, including completing our global ads expansion on Threads. On WhatsApp, we have introduced support for more types of ad destinations and advertiser performance goals in status and continue on track toward our global rollout. Moving to the second part of increasing monetization efficiency, improving performance for the businesses who use our services. Within our ad systems, we're delivering performance gains as we deploy more complex and predictive models. This quarter, we introduced Meta Generative Recommender, a paradigm shift in how our ad system works.

Speaker #1: We are now bringing this to Feed, where early results look comparable. We are also getting new content to people more quickly. Investments we've made in more real-time infrastructure and modeling improvements on new videos are allowing our largest ranking models to now identify high-quality new Reels at creation.

Speaker #1: Moving to the second part of increasing monetization efficiency, improving performance for the businesses who use our services. Within our ad systems, we're delivering performance gains as we deploy more complex and predictive models.

Speaker #1: This quarter, we introduced Meta Generative Recommender, a paradigm shift in how our ad system works. Rather than scoring every possible ad individually, we are now using LLMs to reason about ad content and user preferences together and predict the best ad for each person.

Speaker #1: On Instagram Feed, over half of all recommended content is now less than one day old, more than double from a year ago. We're also giving people more direct control over the content they see.

Speaker #1: This makes our ad matching more intelligent and more precise, which compounds performance gains for advertisers. We deployed the first generative model into our ads retrieval system and saw notable improvements in ads performance.

Susan Li: Rather than scoring every possible ad individually, we are now using LLMs to reason about ad content and user preferences together and predict the best ad for each person. This makes our ad matching more intelligent and more precise, which compounds performance gains for advertisers. We deployed the first generative model into our ads retrieval system and saw notable improvements in ads performance. Early pilots using LLMs to better understand user preferences drove a 1% increase in app event conversions on Instagram. In Q2, we also advanced our user understanding models to analyze ads and organic activity and simultaneously improve both user experience and advertiser performance. Combined with our GEM model for ads ranking and sequence learning, these advancements generated an 8.3% increase in ad clicks and a 15.7% uplift in conversions on Facebook.

Speaker #1: Early results show over 80% retention among users who engage with it. Looking forward, we're executing on our longer-term efforts to develop the next generation of our recommendation systems.

Speaker #1: Early pilots using LLMs to better understand user preferences drove a 1% increase in app event conversions on Instagram. In Q2, we also advanced our user understanding models to analyze ads and organic activity and simultaneously improve both user experience and advertiser performance.

Speaker #1: This includes building foundation models that are designed to power organic content and ads recommendations simultaneously, as well as developing LLM-native recommender systems. We hit our first research milestone this half by continuously pre-training a large-scale model with recommendations data and observing healthy scaling laws in the process.

Speaker #1: Combined with our GEM model for ads ranking and sequence learning, these advancements generated an 8.3% increase in ad clicks and a 15.7% uplift in conversions on Facebook.

Speaker #1: We're encouraged by this milestone and expect continued progress in the second half of the year. Turning to the second driver of our revenue performance: increasing monetization efficiency.

Speaker #1: The first part of this work is optimizing the level of ads within organic engagement. Here, we continue to enhance our systems to show ads at the optimal time and location.

Speaker #1: We're also leveraging AI to empower businesses to more easily manage their campaigns develop ad creative and engage with their customers. Our AI-powered advantage plus end-to-end solutions continue to grow.

Speaker #1: In Q2, we also expanded availability of ads on our newer surfaces, including completing our global ads expansion on Threads. On WhatsApp, we have introduced support for more types of ad destinations and advertiser performance goals and status, and continue on track toward our global rollout.

Speaker #1: Reaching over 75 billion dollars in annual revenue run rate this quarter. We're working to deepen adoption as advertisers who leverage multiple tools see compounding performance gains.

Susan Li: We're also leveraging AI to empower businesses to more easily manage their campaigns, develop ad creative, and engage with their customers. Our AI-powered Advantage+ end-to-end solutions continue to grow, reaching over $75 billion in annual revenue run rate this quarter. We're working to deepen adoption as advertisers who leverage multiple tools see compounding performance gains. I'll share one example of how Advantage+ is making performance marketing meaningfully easier and more effective for SMBs. UNDERNEAT, an online apparel brand in India, had been setting up each campaign manually across Facebook and Instagram. After adopting Advantage+ sales campaigns layered with Advantage+ audience placements and budget optimization, they saw a 13% incremental lift in purchases and a 16% increase in add-to-cart conversions. Adoption of our GenAI ad creative tools continues to scale, with over nine million small businesses using at least one AI creative tool.

Speaker #1: I'll share one example of how advantage plus is making performance marketing meaningfully easier and more effective for SMBs. Underneath, an online apparel brand in India had been setting up each campaign manually across Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker #1: Moving to the second part of increasing monetization efficiency—improving performance for the businesses who use our services. Within our ad systems, we're delivering performance gains as we deploy more complex and predictive models.

Speaker #1: After adopting advantage plus sales campaigns layered with advantage plus audience placements and budget optimization, they saw a 13% incremental lift in purchases and a 16% increase in add to cart conversions.

Susan Li: UNDERNEAT, an online apparel brand in India, had been setting up each campaign manually across Facebook and Instagram. After adopting Advantage+ sales campaigns layered with Advantage+ audience placements and budget optimization, they saw a 13% incremental lift in purchases and a 16% increase in add-to-cart conversions. Adoption of our GenAI ad creative tools continues to scale, with over nine million small businesses using at least one AI creative tool.

Speaker #1: Adoption of our GenAI ad creative tools continues to scale with over 9 million small businesses using at least one AI creative tool. Image generation, which now lets advertisers produce more creatives at scale from existing content including a new ability to create images from video assets saw adoption more than double this quarter.

Speaker #1: We also introduced a new end-to-end creative solution that gives advertisers the AI infrastructure to translate real performance signals into their next creative decision while preserving brand identity and tone.

Speaker #1: Early pilots using LLMs to better understand user preferences drove a 1% increase in app event conversions on Instagram. In Q2, we also advanced our user understanding models to analyze ads and organic activity, and simultaneously improve both user experience and advertiser performance.

Susan Li: Image generation, which now lets advertisers produce more creatives at scale from existing content, including a new ability to create images from video assets, saw adoption more than double this quarter. We also introduced a new end-to-end creative solution that gives advertisers the AI infrastructure to translate real performance signals into their next creative decision while preserving brand identity and tone. We're building with agency integrations from day one so teams can diagnose, generate, and scale high-performing creative without leaving their existing workflows. Looking ahead with the rollout of Muse Image, we expect to further expand advertisers' ability to generate high-quality, on-brand creatives at scale. With Meta Business Agent, businesses are better able to serve their customers through our messaging apps by responding to inquiries, recommending products, and handling support around the clock.

Speaker #1: We're building with agency integrations from day one so teams can diagnose, generate, and scale high-performing creative without leaving their existing workflows. Looking ahead with the rollout of Muse Image, we expect to further expand advertisers' ability to generate high-quality on-brand creatives at scale.

Speaker #1: Combined with our GEM model for ads ranking and sequence learning, these advancements generated an 8.3% increase in ad clicks and a 15.7% uplift in conversions on Facebook.

Speaker #1: With Meta Business Agent, businesses are better able to serve their customers through our messaging apps by responding to inquiries recommending products and handling support around the clock.

Speaker #1: We're also leveraging AI to empower businesses to more easily manage their campaigns, develop ad creative, and engage with their customers. Our AI-powered Advantage+ end-to-end solutions continue to grow, reaching over $75 billion in annual revenue run rate this quarter.

Speaker #1: Earlier this month, we also introduced the Meta Business Agent platform, which gives enterprises the infrastructure to build, customize, and deploy their business agent at scale on WhatsApp.

Speaker #1: The platform provides larger businesses with enterprise-grade controls guardrails and measurement built in so they can define rules and offer personalized experiences starting within the messaging apps of their customers already used.

Speaker #1: We're working to deepen adoption as advertisers who leverage multiple tools see compounding performance gains. I'll share one example of how Advantage+ is making performance marketing meaningfully easier and more effective for SMBs.

Susan Li: Earlier this month, we also introduced the Meta Business Agent Platform, which gives enterprises the infrastructure to build, customize, and deploy their business agent at scale on WhatsApp. The Platform provides larger businesses with enterprise-grade controls, guardrails, and measurement built in so they can define rules and offer personalized experiences, starting within the messaging apps that their customers already use. Movida, one of Brazil's largest rental car companies with nearly 400 locations, deployed a business agent on WhatsApp to handle the entire booking flow from vehicle selection and pricing to payment in a single conversation. Returning customers could complete a reservation in as few as three messages. In a 1-month period, Movida reported a 44% increase in daily bookings through WhatsApp when compared to the same period in the prior year, and that 85% of conversations in the channel were resolved entirely by the AI agent without human assistance.

Speaker #1: Movita, one of Brazil's largest rental car companies with nearly 400 locations, deployed a business agent on WhatsApp to handle the entire booking flow from vehicle selection and pricing to payment in a single conversation.

Speaker #1: Underneath, an online apparel brand in India had been setting up each campaign manually across Facebook and Instagram. After adopting Advantage+ sales campaigns layered with Advantage+ audience placements and budget optimization, they saw a 13% incremental lift in purchases and a 16% increase in add-to-cart conversions.

Speaker #1: Returning customers could complete a reservation in as few as three messages. In a one-month period, Movita reported a 44% increase in daily bookings through WhatsApp when compared to the same period in the prior year and that 85% of conversations in the channel were resolved entirely by the AI agent without human assistance.

Speaker #1: Adoption of our GenAI ad creative tools continues to scale, with over 9 million small businesses using at least one AI creative tool. Image generation, which now lets advertisers produce more creatives at scale from existing content—including a new ability to create images from video assets—saw adoption more than double this quarter.

Susan Li: Returning customers could complete a reservation in as few as three messages. In a 1-month period, Movida reported a 44% increase in daily bookings through WhatsApp when compared to the same period in the prior year, and that 85% of conversations in the channel were resolved entirely by the AI agent without human assistance.

Speaker #1: We're also building out additional ways to monetize our ecosystem. Two additional revenue streams are subscriptions and monetizing our competitive models through an API. Meta One is an evolution of our subscription portfolio to create more value for everyday users, businesses, and creators so they get more features and AI tools to create connect and stand out.

Susan Li: We are also building out additional ways to monetize our ecosystem. Two additional revenue streams are subscriptions and monetizing our competitive models through an API. Meta 1 is an evolution of our subscription portfolio to create more value for everyday users, businesses, and creators, so they get more features and AI tools to create, connect, and stand out. We are excited to bring this to more users and continue to build enhanced tools for our subscribers. We also recently launched a high-intelligence model API at a competitive price and are encouraged by the initial results. We recently made Muse Spark available on OpenRouter for US-based developers, broadening its distribution and making it easier for developers to adopt the model. We soon expect to roll out the model API to more distribution channels, make it available in more countries, and open it up for enterprises.

Speaker #1: We are excited to bring this to more users and continue to build enhanced tools for our subscribers. We also recently launched a high-intelligence model API at a competitive price and are encouraged by the initial results.

Speaker #1: We're building with agency integrations from day one, so teams can diagnose, generate, and scale high-performing creative without leaving their existing workflows. Looking ahead, with the rollout of Muse Image, we expect to further expand advertisers' ability to generate high-quality, on-brand creatives at scale.

Speaker #1: We recently made Muse Spark available on open router for US-based developers, broadening its distribution and making it easier for developers to adopt the model.

Speaker #1: With Meta Business Agent, businesses are better able to serve their customers through our messaging apps by responding to inquiries, recommending products, and handling support around the clock.

Speaker #1: We soon expect to roll out the model API to more distribution channels make it available in more countries and open it up for enterprises.

Susan Li: We recently made Muse Spark available on OpenRouter for US-based developers, broadening its distribution and making it easier for developers to adopt the model. We soon expect to roll out the model API to more distribution channels, make it available in more countries, and open it up for enterprises.

Speaker #1: Our approach to building capacity is strongly influenced by several key elements. First, the broad environment for building infrastructure is dynamic and uncertain in both near-term and longer-term time horizons.

Speaker #1: The platform provides larger businesses with enterprise-grade controls, guardrails, and measurement built in, so they can define rules and offer personalized experiences, starting within the messaging apps their customers already use.

Speaker #1: The industry has underbuilt historically for the wave of AI adoption, making existing capacity including our own extremely valuable. Longer-term, the supply chains need to be built out to support the capacity that we anticipate we and others will need for AI-powered experiences.

Susan Li: Our approach to building capacity is strongly influenced by several key elements. First, the broad environment for building infrastructure is dynamic and uncertain in both near-term and longer-term time horizons. The industry has under-built historically for the wave of AI adoption, making existing capacity, including our own, extremely valuable. Longer term, the supply chains need to be built out to support the capacity that we anticipate we and others will need for AI-powered experiences. Second, we have high confidence in our ability to utilize capacity to scale and build on top of our existing experiences, as well as continue to invest in foundational models that will create substantial new opportunities. Consequently, our current plans are geared towards maximizing 2026 and 2027 capacity.

Speaker #1: Movita, one of Brazil's largest rental car companies with nearly 400 locations, deployed a business agent on WhatsApp to handle the entire booking flow—from vehicle selection and pricing to payment—in a single conversation.

Speaker #1: Second, we have high confidence in our ability to utilize capacity. Scale and build on top of our existing experiences, as well as continue to invest in foundational models that will create substantial new opportunities.

Speaker #1: Returning customers could complete a reservation in as few as three messages. In a one-month period, Movita reported a 44% increase in daily bookings through WhatsApp, when compared to the same period in the prior year, and that 85% of conversations in the channel were resolved entirely by the AI agent without human assistance.

Speaker #1: Consequently, our current plans are geared towards maximizing 2026 and 2027 capacity. When we have had incremental capacity in the past, it has proven extremely valuable in scaling experiences like reels.

Speaker #1: And we are confident that this will be true in this timeframe as well. Longer-term, it's harder to predict the exact usage scaling curves. But we believe that our distribution advantages will give us the opportunity to serve AI products that are valuable for everyone, both our 3.6 billion users and millions of businesses.

Speaker #1: We're also building out additional ways to monetize our ecosystem. Two additional revenue streams are subscriptions and monetizing our competitive models through an API. Meta One is an evolution of our subscription portfolio, designed to create more value for everyday users, businesses, and creators, so they get more features and AI tools to create, connect, and stand out.

Susan Li: When we have had incremental capacity in the past, it has proven extremely valuable in scaling experiences like Reels, and we are confident that this will be true in this timeframe as well. Longer term, it is harder to predict the exact usage scaling curves, but we believe that our distribution advantages will give us the opportunity to serve AI products that are valuable for everyone, both our 3.6 billion users and millions of businesses. This should be true regardless of whether our models are on the frontier, but we believe that being on the frontier will unlock new markets and opportunities for which we may need additional compute. Therefore, our longer-term capacity strategy aims to give us the flexibility to continue growing compute in 2028 and beyond by laying down data center and network foundations to accommodate future server decisions.

Speaker #1: This should be true regardless of whether our models are on the frontier but we believe that being on the frontier will unlock new markets and opportunities for which we may need additional compute.

Speaker #1: Therefore, our longer-term capacity strategy aims to give us the flexibility to continue growing compute in 2028 and beyond by laying down data center and network foundations to accommodate future server decisions.

Susan Li: This should be true regardless of whether our models are on the frontier, but we believe that being on the frontier will unlock new markets and opportunities for which we may need additional compute. Therefore, our longer-term capacity strategy aims to give us the flexibility to continue growing compute in 2028 and beyond by laying down data center and network foundations to accommodate future server decisions.

Speaker #1: We recently made Muse Spark available on open router for US-based developers, broadening its distribution and making it easier for developers to adopt the model.

Speaker #1: The long-lived nature of these assets inherently provides the flexibility that will make it possible to adjust our investment to the pace of AI adoption.

Speaker #1: We expect to soon roll out the model API to more distribution channels, make it available in more countries, and open it up for enterprises.

Speaker #1: In addition, we have been making strategic custom silicon effort, which will provide long-term strategic flexibility and supply chain leverage. This will be helpful in driving better returns on those long-term investments.

Susan Li: The long-lived nature of these assets inherently provides the flexibility that will make it possible to adjust our investment to the pace of AI adoption. In addition, we have been making strategic investments in areas like our internal custom silicon effort, which will provide long-term strategic flexibility and supply chain leverage. This will be helpful in driving better returns on those long-term investments. Finally, we believe that overall industry capacity is going to remain tight for the foreseeable future. As we've said earlier, we strongly believe that the models, consumer experiences, and enterprise offerings that we are building will be the best and highest ROI use of our infrastructure. Those enterprise offerings have the potential to take multiple forms, as Mark mentioned, agentic tools, our API, or monetizing compute directly given outsized market demand.

Speaker #1: Finally, we believe that overall industry capacity is going to remain tight for the foreseeable future. As we've said earlier, we strongly believe that the models consumer experiences and enterprise offerings that we are building will be the best and highest ROI use of our infrastructure.

Speaker #1: The industry has historically underbuilt for the wave of AI adoption, making existing capacity, including our own, extremely valuable. Longer term, the supply chains need to be built out to support the capacity that we anticipate we and others will need for AI-powered experiences.

Speaker #1: Those enterprise offerings have the potential to take multiple forms as Mark mentioned, agentic tools, our API, or monetizing compute directly given outsized market demand.

Speaker #1: Second, we have high confidence in our ability to utilize capacity to scale and build on top of our existing experiences, as well as continue to invest in foundational models that will create substantial new opportunities.

Speaker #1: We expect that remaining nimble about these opportunities will help us fund our build-out more efficiently, while preserving our strategic flexibility to have the compute when we need it and provide us multiple pathways to generate returns on expected on invested capital.

Speaker #1: In funding these infrastructure investments, the strength of our balance sheet gives us the ability to attract capital from a wide range of markets to supplement the cash flow generated by our business.

Susan Li: We expect that remaining nimble about these opportunities will help us fund our build-out more efficiently while preserving our strategic flexibility to have the compute when we need it and provide us multiple pathways to generate returns on invested capital. In funding these infrastructure investments, the strength of our balance sheet gives us the ability to attract capital from a wide range of markets to supplement the cash flow generated by our business. Our announcement with BlackRock yesterday is an example of the partnerships that we can structure to complement our approach to building infrastructure capacity. Moving now to our financial outlook. We expect Q3 2026 total revenue to be in the range of $61 to $64 billion. Our guidance assumes foreign currency is an approximately 1% headwind to year-over-year total revenue growth based on current exchange rates. Turning to the expense and CapEx outlooks.

Speaker #1: Longer term, it's harder to predict the exact usage scaling curves. But we believe that our distribution advantages will give us the opportunity to serve AI products that are valuable for everyone, both our 3.6 billion users and millions of businesses.

Speaker #1: Our announcement with BlackRock yesterday is an example of the partnerships that we can structure to complement our approach to building infrastructure capacity. Moving now to our financial outlook, we expect third-quarter 2026 total revenue to be in the range of $61 to $64 billion.

Speaker #1: This should be true regardless of whether our models are on the frontier, but we believe that being on the frontier will unlock new markets and opportunities for which we may need additional compute.

Speaker #1: Our guidance assumes foreign currency is an approximately 1% headwind to year-over-year total revenue growth based on current exchange rates. Turning to the expense and capex outlooks, we are raising the lower end of our expense outlook to incorporate the 2.4 billion dollar charge related to legal proceedings recognized in Q2.

Susan Li: We expect Q3 2026 total revenue to be in the range of $61 to $64 billion. Our guidance assumes foreign currency is an approximately 1% headwind to year-over-year total revenue growth based on current exchange rates. Turning to the expense and CapEx outlooks.

Speaker #1: The long-lived nature of these assets inherently provides the flexibility that will make it possible to adjust our investment to the pace of AI adoption.

Speaker #1: We now expect full year 2026 total expenses to be in the range of $165 to $169 billion. We continue to expect to deliver operating income this year that is above 2025 operating income.

Susan Li: We are raising the lower end of our expense outlook to incorporate the $2.4 billion charge related to legal proceedings recognized in Q2. We now expect full year 2026 total expenses to be in the range of $165 to $169 billion. We continue to expect to deliver operating income this year that is above 2025 operating income. We anticipate 2026 capital expenditures, including principal payments on finance leases, to be in the range of $130 to $145 billion, narrowed from our prior outlook of $125 to $145 billion. Absent any changes to our tax landscape, we expect our tax rate for the remaining quarters of 2026 to be between 15% to 17%, an increase from our prior outlook of 13% to 16%. Finally, we continue to monitor active legal and regulatory matters that could significantly impact our business and financial results.

Speaker #1: In addition, we have been making strategic investments in areas like our internal custom silicon effort, which will provide long-term strategic flexibility and supply chain leverage.

Speaker #1: We anticipate 2026 capital expenditures including principal payments on finance leases to be in the range of $130 to $145 billion. Narrowed from our prior outlook of $125 to $145 billion.

Speaker #1: This will be helpful in driving better returns on those long-term investments. Finally, we believe that overall industry capacity is going to remain tight for the foreseeable future.

Speaker #1: As we've said earlier, we strongly believe that the models, consumer experiences, and enterprise offerings that we are building will be the best and highest ROI use of our infrastructure.

Speaker #1: Absent any changes to our tax landscape, we expect our tax rate for the remaining quarters of 2026 to be between 15 to 17 percent, an increase from our prior outlook of 13 to 16 percent.

Speaker #1: Those enterprise offerings have the potential to take multiple forms, as Mark mentioned, agentic tools, our API, or monetizing compute directly, given outsized market demand.

Speaker #1: Finally, we continue to monitor active legal and regulatory matters that could significantly impact our business and financial results. For example, we continue to see scrutiny on youth-related issues in several markets and have a number of youth-related trials scheduled for this year in the US, which may ultimately result in a material loss.

Susan Li: Absent any changes to our tax landscape, we expect our tax rate for the remaining quarters of 2026 to be between 15% to 17%, an increase from our prior outlook of 13% to 16%. Finally, we continue to monitor active legal and regulatory matters that could significantly impact our business and financial results.

Speaker #1: We expect that remaining nimble about these opportunities will help us fund our build-out more efficiently, while preserving our strategic flexibility to have the compute when we need it, and provide us multiple pathways to generate returns on invested capital that were unexpected.

Speaker #1: In closing, our business momentum continued in Q2 with strong execution across our core ads and engagement initiatives. We're also progressing in our efforts to bring personal superintelligence to everyone, with exciting model releases, and we expect to build on that momentum over the course of this year with new products.

Susan Li: For example, we continue to see scrutiny on youth-related issues in several markets and have a number of youth-related trials scheduled for this year in the US, which may ultimately result in a material loss. In closing, our business momentum continued in Q2 with strong execution across our core ads and engagement initiatives. We're also progressing in our efforts to bring personal super intelligence to everyone with exciting model releases, and we expect to build on that momentum over the course of this year with new products. With that, Krista, let's open up the call for questions.

Speaker #1: With that, Krista, let's open up the call for questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now open the lines for a question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star one on your touchstone phone.

Speaker #1: Our guidance assumes foreign currency is an approximately 1% headwind to year-over-year total revenue growth, based on current exchange rates. Turning to the expense and CapEx outlooks, we are raising the lower end of our expense outlook to incorporate the $2.4 billion charge related to legal proceedings recognized in Q2.

Speaker #2: To withdraw your question, again press star one. Please limit yourself to one question. Please pick up your handset before asking your question to ensure clarity.

Operator: Thank you. We will now open the lines for a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one on your touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, again, press star one. Please limit yourself to one question. Please pick up your handset before asking your question to ensure clarity. If you are streaming today's call, please mute your computer speakers. Your first question comes from the line of Brian Nowak with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: If you are streaming today's call, please mute your computer speakers. And your first question comes from the line of Brian Nowak with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker #2: Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Thanks for taking my questions. I have two, one from Mark, one for Susan. Mark, I appreciate all the color on the big pipeline for new products across consumer and business agents API tools and compute rental.

Speaker #3: There's a lot of opportunities here. But my question is, as you look at these opportunities and the state of the current offerings, the compute capacity, which of them do you expect to be able to scale first sort of in 2026 and 2027 to sort of showcase quantifiable material ROIC for investors?

Speaker #1: We anticipate 2026 capital expenditures, including principal payments on finance leases, to be in the range of $130 to $145 billion. Narrowed from our prior outlook of $125 to $145 billion.

Brian Nowak: Thanks for taking my questions. I have two, one for Mark, one for Susan. Mark, I appreciate all the color on the big pipeline for new products across consumer and business agents, API tools, and compute rental. There's a lot of opportunities here. My question is, as you look at these opportunities and the state of the current offerings, the compute capacity, which of them do you expect to be able to scale first, sort of in 2026 and 2027 to sort of showcase quantifiable material ROIC for investors? Susan, there's been some public comments about capacity in 2027 and doubling capacity, and appreciate your color about CapEx. Any early comments on 2027 CapEx, even the philosophy around sources of upside or sources of downward pressure as you sort of think through different ways to finance this multi-year build and have 2027 CapEx?

Speaker #3: And then, Susan, there's been some public comments about capacity in 2027 and doubling capacity and I appreciate your color about capex. Any early comments on 2027 capex, even the philosophy around sources of upside or sources of downward pressure, you sort of think through different ways to finance this multi-year build and have 2027 capex?

Speaker #1: Finally, we continue to monitor active legal and regulatory matters that could significantly impact our business and financial results. For example, we continue to see scrutiny on youth-related issues in several markets, and have a number of youth-related trials scheduled for this year in the U.S., which may ultimately result in a material loss.

Brian Nowak: Susan, there's been some public comments about capacity in 2027 and doubling capacity, and appreciate your color about CapEx. Any early comments on 2027 CapEx, even the philosophy around sources of upside or sources of downward pressure as you sort of think through different ways to finance this multi-year build and have 2027 CapEx?

Speaker #4: I can take the first one. So in terms of the different opportunities and how we think about the compute, overall, a substantial amount of the compute goes towards training models to be a leading lab.

Speaker #1: In closing, our business momentum continued in Q2, with strong execution across our core ads and engagement initiatives. We're also progressing in our efforts to bring personal superintelligence to everyone, with exciting model releases, and we expect to build on that momentum over the course of this year with new products.

Speaker #4: And I think that that's an important investment. But then the rest of it goes towards a set of different products and revenue opportunities which spans from optimizing and improving our core business to building new consumer products that we're releasing soon to the API, to the business agents work, to the developer, tools work on the roadmap that I alluded to.

Mark Zuckerberg: I can take the first one. In terms of the different opportunities and how we think about the compute, overall, a substantial amount of the compute goes towards training models to be a leading lab, and I think that's an important investment. The rest of it goes towards a set of different products and revenue opportunities, which spans from optimizing and improving our core business to building new consumer products that we're releasing soon to the API, to the business agents work, to the developer tools work on the roadmap that I alluded to, also the opportunity to sell compute directly, where I mentioned that we have quite a number of offers at a meaningful premium over what we paid for the compute.

Speaker #1: With that, Krista, let's open up the call for questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now open the lines for a question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star 1 on your touchstone phone.

Speaker #2: To withdraw your question, again, press star 1. Please limit yourself to one question. Please pick up your handset before asking your question to ensure clarity.

Speaker #4: And then also the opportunity to sell compute directly, where I mean, I mentioned that we have quite a number of offers at a meaningful premium over what we paid for the compute.

Speaker #2: If you are streaming today's call, please mute your computer speakers. And your first question comes from the line of Brian Nowak with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker #4: The question in thinking about this is we believe that there will continue to be a significantly higher margin on selling intelligence rather than selling compute directly.

Speaker #2: Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Thanks for taking my questions. I have two. One for Mark, one for Susan. Mark, I appreciate all the color on the big pipeline for new products across consumer and business agents, API tools, and compute rental.

Speaker #4: But we think that there's a big opportunity obviously to sell compute as well. So we're thinking through I think you asked one area would likely scale the most, but I mean, I'm actually quite optimistic that we're going to see meaningful growth in all of these areas.

Speaker #3: There's a lot of opportunities here. My question is, as you look at these opportunities and the state of the current offerings, the compute capacity, which of them do you expect to be able to scale first, sort of in 2026 and 2027, to sort of showcase quantifiable material ROIC for investors?

Mark Zuckerberg: The question in thinking about this is, we believe that there will continue to be a significantly higher margin on selling intelligence rather than selling compute directly. We think that there is a big opportunity, obviously, to sell compute as well. We're thinking through. I think you asked what one area would likely scale the most, but I'm actually quite optimistic that we're going to see meaningful growth in all of these areas. I think we will have more to share soon on a number of them.

Speaker #4: And I think we will have more to share soon on a number of them.

Speaker #3: And then, Susan, there's been some public comments about capacity in 2027 and doubling capacity, and I appreciate your color about CapEx. Any early comments on 2027 CapEx, even the philosophy around sources of upside or sources of downward pressure as you sort of think through different ways to finance this multi-year build and have 2027 CapEx?

Speaker #1: Brian, on your second question, we aren't providing a specific outlook for 2027 capex at this time. Infrastructure planning remains highly dynamic. And even this year, there are a range of outcomes embedded in our outlook.

Speaker #1: I alluded in my main remarks to our focus on being on gearing our current infrastructure plans towards maximizing capacity in 2026 and 2027. And giving us the flexibility to continue to grow in 2028 beyond and beyond, but also giving us the ability to make server decisions when we come to our being able to evaluate our actual needs in 2028 and beyond.

Susan Li: Brian, on your second question, we aren't providing a specific outlook for 2027 CapEx at this time. Infrastructure planning remains highly dynamic. Even this year, there are a range of outcomes embedded in our outlook. I alluded in my main remarks to our focus on gearing our current infrastructure plans towards maximizing capacity in 2026 and 2027, and giving us the flexibility to continue to grow in 2028 and beyond, but also giving us the ability to make server decisions when we come to being able to evaluate our actual needs in 2028 and beyond. We're still working through what our capacity needs are going to be over the coming years. Generally, we believe near-term capacity is more valuable than long-term capacity. It remains a very dynamic planning process.

Speaker #4: And I think that's an important investment. But then the rest of it goes towards a set of different products and revenue opportunities which spans from optimizing and improving our core business to building new consumer products that we're releasing soon, to the API, to the business agents work, to the developer tools work on the roadmap that I alluded to.

Speaker #1: So we're still working through what our capacity needs are going to be over the coming years. Generally, we believe near-term capacity is more valuable than long-term capacity.

Speaker #1: And it remains a very dynamic planning process.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: And then also the opportunity to sell compute directly, where—I mean, I mentioned that we have quite a number of offers at a meaningful premium over what we paid for the compute.

Speaker #3: Thanks for taking the question. Maybe two if I can. When you frame up the enterprise opportunity, how much of that opportunity do you think is available to you today based on what you've built out in terms of go-to-market strategy as extensions of the advertising and the marketing business?

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: The question in thinking about this is, we believe that there will continue to be a significantly higher margin on selling intelligence rather than selling compute directly.

Speaker #3: You have already versus go-to-market strategies that might have to be built to capitalize on the opportunity. And then maybe Susan, if I could just squeeze a second one in.

Eric Sheridan: Thanks for taking the question. Maybe two, if I can. When you frame up the enterprise opportunity, how much of that opportunity do you think is available to you today based on what you've built out in terms of go-to-market strategy as extensions of the advertising and the marketing business you have already, versus go-to-market strategies that might have to be built, to capitalize on the opportunity? Then maybe Susan, if I could just squeeze a second one in. When you think about sources of capital for the business for the next couple of years, you referenced the deal that was announced yesterday as an example of looking at ways to finance forward obligations. We continue to get questions from investors about how to think about the mix of debt and equity and sources of capital.

Speaker #4: But we think that there is a big opportunity, obviously, to sell compute as well. So we're thinking through—I think you asked what one area would likely scale the most—but I mean, I'm actually quite optimistic that we're going to see meaningful growth in all of these areas.

Speaker #3: When you think about sources of capital for the business for the next couple of years, you referenced the deal that was announced yesterday as an example of looking at ways to finance forward obligations.

Speaker #3: We continue to get questions from investors about how to think about the mix of debt and equity and sources of capital. Philosophically, how are you guys thinking about wanting to be ambitious on the spend, but then marrying that with the need for capital?

Speaker #4: And I think we will have more to share soon on a number of them.

Speaker #2: Brian, on your second question, we aren't providing a specific outlook for 2027 CapEx at this time. Infrastructure planning remains highly dynamic, and even this year, there are a range of outcomes embedded in our outlook.

Speaker #3: Thanks so much.

Speaker #4: Sure. I can talk about the first part. I think for enterprise, there's going to be a combination of extending the current business, which is effectively selling to marketers and businesses that are basically customer-facing trying to reach customers and sell to them directly.

Eric Sheridan: Philosophically, how are you guys thinking about wanting to be ambitious on the spend, marrying that with the need for capital? Thanks so much.

Speaker #2: I alluded in my main remarks to our focus on being on gearing our current infrastructure plans towards maximizing capacity in 2026 and 2027. And giving us the flexibility to continue to grow in 2028 beyond and beyond, but also giving us the ability to make server decisions when we come to our being able to evaluate our actual needs in 2028 and beyond.

Mark Zuckerberg: Sure. I can talk about the first part. I think for enterprise, there's going to be a combination of extending the current business, which is effectively selling to marketers and businesses that are basically customer-facing, trying to reach customers and sell to them directly. Obviously, that's the vast majority of the business across Facebook and Instagram. We believe that there's an opportunity to extend this with business agents across messaging apps and other surfaces to continue to interact with customers. Just like the ad system, effectively, we will get paid when we deliver results for those businesses. We view this as an extension of the sales and the partnerships that we have with many millions of advertisers and hundreds of millions of small businesses that use our platforms.

Speaker #4: Obviously, that's the vast majority of the business across Facebook and Instagram. And we believe that there's an opportunity to extend this with business agents across messaging apps and other surfaces to continue to interact with customers and just like the ad system, effectively we will get paid when we deliver results for those businesses.

Speaker #2: So we're still working through what our capacities are going to be over the coming years. Generally, we believe near-term capacity is more valuable than long-term capacity.

Speaker #4: So we view this as an extension of the sales and the partnerships that we have with many millions of advertisers and hundreds of millions of small businesses that use our platforms.

Speaker #2: And it remains a very dynamic planning process. Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: So that one, I think, should be quite a natural opportunity for us. And we're focused on delivering it in a way where we're not trying to kind of maximize the sale in the near term.

Speaker #5: Thanks for taking the question. Maybe two, if I can. When you frame up the enterprise opportunity, how much of that opportunity do you think is available to you today based on what you've built out in terms of go-to-market strategy as extensions of the advertising and the marketing business?

Speaker #4: We're trying to maximize the results for people and build out a robust auction. And that's what we've seen has served the business well over time.

Mark Zuckerberg: That one should be quite a natural opportunity for us, and we're focused on delivering it in a way where we're not trying to maximize the sale in the near term. We're trying to maximize the results for people and build out a robust auction, and that's what we've seen has served the business well over time. There are other enterprise customers who I think we're increasingly going to serve too. We're building, coding, and developing an internal productivity tools partially because we need to build them ourselves, and we need to make sure that we have tools that are tuned for ourselves. Now that we have those, we feel like there's a large opportunity to serve, whether that's small businesses or larger businesses.

Speaker #5: You have already, versus go-to-market strategies that might have to be built, to capitalize on the opportunity. And then maybe Susan, if I could just squeeze a second one in.

Speaker #4: There are other enterprise too. We're building coding and developing an internal productivity tools partially because we need to build them ourselves. And we need to make sure that we have tools that are tuned for ourselves and now that we have those, we feel like there's a large opportunity to serve whether that's small businesses or larger businesses that is a somewhat different muscle than we have historically had.

Speaker #5: When you think about sources of capital for the business for the next couple of years, you referenced the deal that was announced yesterday as an example of looking at ways to finance forward obligations.

Speaker #5: We continue to get questions from investors about how to think about the mix of debt and equity and sources of capital. Philosophically, how are you guys thinking about wanting to be ambitious on the spend, but then marrying that with the need for capital?

Speaker #4: And we will share more soon on how we're planning to build that out. But I think that there is just a very large opportunity on this.

Speaker #4: And the way that I think about this is there's obviously been a bunch of news about the compute side. But I think that the enterprise opportunity is kind of the sum of all of these different things.

Speaker #5: Thanks so much.

Speaker #4: Sure. I could talk about the first part. I think for enterprise, there's going to be a combination of extending the current business, which is effectively selling to marketers and businesses that are basically customer-facing, trying to reach customers and sell to them directly.

Mark Zuckerberg: That is a somewhat different muscle than we have historically had, and we will share more soon on how we're planning to build that out. I think that there is just a very large opportunity on this. The way that I think about this is there's obviously been a bunch of news about the compute side, but I think that the enterprise opportunity is kind of the sum of all of these different things. It's not just the selling compute, also the API services, the productivity services, the kind of business agents for other parts of the business beyond marketing, are all parts of the overall offering, and I think that there's just a very large opportunity there. We're quite focused on that.

Speaker #4: It's not just the selling compute. Also, the API services, the productivity services, the kind of business agents for other parts of the business beyond marketing are all parts of the overall offering.

Speaker #4: Obviously, that's the vast majority of the business across Facebook and Instagram. And we believe that there is an opportunity to extend this with business agents across messaging apps and other surfaces to continue to interact with customers. And just like the ad system, effectively we will get paid when we deliver results for those businesses.

Speaker #4: And I think that there's just a very, very large opportunity there. So we're quite focused on that. That's going to be somewhat of a new muscle that we build as a company.

Speaker #4: But I think it's a very important one that we build so that way we can make sure that we can maximize the opportunity ahead of us.

Speaker #1: Eric, on your second question, in terms of sources of capital, this is something that we have been looking at thoughtfully as we think about financial planning for the future.

Speaker #4: So we view this as an extension of the sales and the partnerships that we have with many millions of advertisers and hundreds of millions of small businesses that use our platforms.

Mark Zuckerberg: That's going to be somewhat of a new muscle that we build as a company, but I think it's a very important one that we build so that way we can make sure that we can maximize the opportunity ahead of us.

Speaker #1: Obviously, our strong operating cash flow is certainly has put us in a position of strength as it pertains to funding our infrastructure build-out. But we've also been evolving our capital structure in recent years to include a greater mix of debt as we work to bring down our cost of capital and we have generally found it prudent to continue adding cost-efficient long-duration sources of capital as we make investments in initiatives that themselves have long time horizons.

Speaker #4: So that one, I think, should be quite a natural opportunity for us. And we're focused on delivering it in a way where we're not trying to kind of maximize the sale in the near term.

Susan Li: Eric, on your second question, in terms of sources of capital, this is something that we have been looking at thoughtfully as we think about financial planning for the future. Obviously, our strong operating cash flow certainly has put us in a position of strength as it pertains to funding our infrastructure build-out. We've also been evolving our capital structure in recent years to include a greater mix of debt as we work to bring down our cost of capital. We have generally found it prudent to continue adding cost-efficient, long-duration sources of capital as we make investments in initiatives that themselves have long time horizons, especially AI infrastructure projects. We've also broadened our aperture there to include partnerships like the one we announced with BlackRock yesterday, and we'll continue to be thoughtful about evaluating the appropriate different sources of capital over time as we evaluate future projects.

Speaker #4: We're trying to maximize the results for people and build out a robust auction. And that's what we've seen has served the business well over time.

Speaker #4: There are other enterprise customers who I think we're increasingly going to serve too. We're building, coding, and developing internal productivity tools, partially because we need to build them ourselves.

Speaker #1: Especially AI infrastructure projects. We've also broadened our aperture there to include partnerships like the one we announced with BlackRock yesterday. And we'll continue to be thoughtful about evaluating the appropriate different sources of capital over time as we evaluate future projects.

Susan Li: We have generally found it prudent to continue adding cost-efficient, long-duration sources of capital as we make investments in initiatives that themselves have long time horizons, especially AI infrastructure projects. We've also broadened our aperture there to include partnerships like the one we announced with BlackRock yesterday, and we'll continue to be thoughtful about evaluating the appropriate different sources of capital over time as we evaluate future projects.

Speaker #4: And we need to make sure that we have tools that are tuned for ourselves and now that we have those, we feel like there's a large opportunity to serve whether that's small businesses or larger businesses that is a somewhat different muscle than we have historically had.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Schmulich with Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: And we will share more soon on how we're planning to build that out. But I think that there is just a very large opportunity on this.

Speaker #5: Yes. Thanks for taking the question. Mark, everyone's got a story of kind of someone coming back from Silicon Valley deep writing code, building agents with AI, and then they head home and they kind of tell their parents they're using AI wrong.

Speaker #4: And the way that I think about this is, there's obviously been a bunch of news about the compute side. But I think that the enterprise opportunity is kind of the sum of all of these different things.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Shmulik with Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: It's just kind of like a glorified search tool. Consumer behavior is always pretty difficult to predict. But kind of reading your op-ed on AI for everyone, how do you think about whether consumer adoption can close this AI utility gap?

Mark Shmulik: Yes, thanks for taking the question. Mark, everyone's got a story of someone coming back from Silicon Valley, deep writing code, building agents with AI, and then they head home, and they kind of tell their parents they're using AI wrong. It's just kind of like a glorified search tool. Consumer behavior is always pretty difficult to predict, reading your op-ed on AI for everyone, how do you think about whether consumer adoption can close this AI utility gap? Are we on the cusp of something kind of breaking through, or do we just need to be a bit more patient? Thanks.

Speaker #5: Are we on the cusp of something kind of breaking through or do we just need to be a bit more patient? Thanks.

Speaker #4: And I think that there's just a very, very large opportunity there. So we're quite focused on that. That's going to be somewhat of a new muscle that we build as a company.

Speaker #4: Well, I think that some things have already broken through. And I think one of the interesting things about AI compared to other technologies is that every year or so, and the cycle may accelerate, but every year or so you get new capabilities that create new possible product lines.

Speaker #4: But I think it's a very important one that we build so that way we can make sure that we can maximize the opportunity ahead of us.

Speaker #2: Eric, on your second question, in terms of sources of capital, this is something that we have been looking at thoughtfully as we think about financial planning for the future.

Speaker #4: So there's obviously the AI assistant market for consumers where that's what we're doing with Meta AI and then there's the other products that competitors have in that space.

Mark Zuckerberg: Well, I think that some things have already broken through, and I think one of the interesting things about AI compared to other technologies is that every year or so, the cycle may accelerate, every year or so you get new capabilities that create new possible product lines. There's obviously the AI assistant market for consumers where that's what we're doing with Meta AI, and then there's the other products that competitors have in that space. In the last year, I think the coding agent market has really grown very quickly, and that's the first real agentic market, and I think that there's a number of reasons why coding is first, right? You have technical customers who are willing to do the work to make it work.

Speaker #2: Obviously, our strong operating cash flow has certainly put us in a position of strength as it pertains to funding our infrastructure build-out. But we've also been evolving our capital structure in recent years to include a greater mix of debt as we work to bring down our cost of capital, and we have generally found it prudent to continue adding cost-efficient, long-duration sources of capital as we make investments in initiatives that themselves have long time horizons.

Speaker #4: And then in the last year, I think the coding agent market has really grown very quickly. And that's the first real agentic market. And I think that there's a number of reasons why coding is first.

Speaker #4: You have technical customers who are willing to do the work to make it work. Coding is an inherently digital and closed-loop activity. So it's sort of in some ways it is somewhat of kind of an easier system to train on.

Speaker #2: Especially AI infrastructure projects. We've also broadened our aperture there to include partnerships like the one we announced with BlackRock yesterday. And we'll continue to be thoughtful about evaluating the appropriate different sources of capital over time as we evaluate future projects.

Speaker #4: But our bet is that, or one of the bets here that we're making is that we think that consumer personal agents is going to end up being an extremely important and massive market.

Mark Zuckerberg: Coding is an inherently digital and closed-loop activity, in some ways, it is somewhat of a kind of an easier system to train on. Our bet is that, or one of the bets here that we're making is that we think that consumer personal agents is going to end up being an extremely important and massive market.

Speaker #4: I think that it's extremely unlikely if you look out five years from now, for example, that whatever period of time you want, that you don't have billions of people with a personal agent that understands your goals and that is just working on your behalf 24/7 to achieve your goals.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Schmulich with Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Yes. Thanks for taking the question. Mark, everyone's got a story of kind of someone coming back from Silicon Valley, deep writing code, building agents with AI, and then they head home and they kind of tell their parents they're using AI wrong.

Speaker #4: And whatever the domain is that you care about, whether it's helping you with your health or your hobbies or your personal finances, or your productivity and running your home better, or improving and enhancing your relationships, helping with your career, just all these different things, this is like a very, very deep set of use cases but like you said, I think that building for consumers is a little bit different than building for developers.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think that it's extremely unlikely if you look out 5 years from now, for example, that whatever period of time you want, that you don't have billions of people with a personal agent that understands your goals and that it's just working on your behalf 24/7 to achieve your goals and whatever the domain is that you care about, whether it's helping you with your health or your hobbies or your personal finances or your productivity in running your home better or improving and enhancing your relationships, helping with your career, like just all these different things. This is a very deep set of use cases. Like you said, I think that building for consumers is a little bit different than building for developers.

Speaker #6: It's just kind of like a glorified search tool. Consumer behavior is always pretty difficult to predict. But, kind of reading your op-ed on AI for everyone, how do you think about whether consumer adoption can close this AI utility gap?

Speaker #6: Are we on the cusp of something kind of breaking through, or do we just need to be a bit more patient? Thanks.

Speaker #4: Well, I think that some things have already broken through. And I think one of the interesting things about AI, compared to other technologies, is that every year or so—and the cycle may accelerate—but every year or so you get new capabilities that create new possible product lines.

Speaker #4: If you're building for consumers, especially if you're trying to build something that isn't used by millions of people but is used by billions of people, it needs to just work.

Speaker #4: It needs to be simple. And I think a lot of what we see with these agents today a lot of the kind of proto agents is it takes a bunch of fiddling.

Speaker #4: So there's obviously the AI assistant market for consumers, which is what we're doing with Meta AI, and then there are the other products that competitors have in that space.

Speaker #4: You have to get into a terminal to get it set up. You get a use case going. It kind of seems magical, but then maybe it breaks down over time.

Mark Zuckerberg: If you're building for consumers, especially if you're trying to build something that isn't used by millions of people but is used by billions of people, it needs to just work, right? It needs to be simple. I think a lot of what we see with these agents today, a lot of the kind of proto-agents is it takes a bunch of fiddling. You have to get into a terminal to get it set up. You get a use case going. Maybe it breaks down over time.

Speaker #4: And I think that the companies that can deliver the personal agents that just work, I think that this is going to be one of the next major opportunities in AI and we are very excited about that in addition to what we're doing with Meta AI, in addition to what we're doing with business agents, in addition to all these other things.

Speaker #4: And then, in the last year, I think the coding agent market has really grown very quickly. That's the first real agentic market, and I think that there are a number of reasons why coding is first, right?

Mark Zuckerberg: I think that the companies that can deliver the personal agents that just work, I think that this is going to be one of the next major opportunities in AI, and we are very excited about that in addition to what we're doing with Meta AI, in addition to what we're doing with business agents, in addition to all these other things, while also developing the models that we think are going to continue to advance new capabilities to create new product lines as well. This is why we're very optimistic. Now, I get we're going to ship this at some point soon, that's going to be very exciting. We haven't done that yet, there's kind of only so much that I can say on an earnings call about this.

Speaker #4: While also developing the models that we think are going to continue to advance new capabilities to create new product lines as well. So this is why we're very optimistic.

Speaker #4: Now, I get we are we're going to ship this at some point soon and that's going to be very exciting. And we haven't done that yet.

Speaker #4: But our bet is that, or one of the bets here that we're making is that we think that consumer personal agents is going to end up being an extremely important and massive market.

Speaker #4: So this is there's kind of only so much that I can say on an earnings call about this. But I think this is a very large opportunity and one that I think is almost inevitable that someone does.

Speaker #4: And I think it really plays to Meta's strengths as a company of we build consumer products that reach billions of people. We're great at once we get something working, scaling it to a large number of people.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think this is a very large opportunity and one that I think is almost inevitable that someone does. I think it really plays to Meta's strengths as a company of we build consumer products that reach billions of people. We're great at, once we get something working, scaling it to a large number of people, and we're good at building the infrastructure to be able to support these intensive applications. I feel very good about this. I kind of understand that we need to deliver it for our community, and that's what we're very focused on.

Speaker #4: And whatever the domain is that you care about, whether it's helping you with your health or your hobbies or your personal finances, or your productivity and running your home better, or improving and enhancing your relationships, helping with your career, just all these different things, this is a very, very deep set of use cases but like you said, I think that building for consumers is a little bit different than building for developers.

Speaker #4: And we're good at building the infrastructure to be able to support these intensive applications. So I feel very good about this. I kind of understand that we need to deliver it for our community and that's what we're very focused on.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Doug and Moose with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. One for Susan and one for Mark. Susan, you talked about how LLMs are increasingly capable of delivering ranking and recommendation gains.

Speaker #4: If you're building for consumers, especially if you're trying to build something that isn't used by millions of people but is used by billions of people, it needs to just work, right?

Speaker #5: Can you just talk more about the roadmap here and how far along you are in just leveraging better models and more compute? And then Mark, just in terms of the number of offers to monetize your compute externally, you also at the same time are purchasing capacity from a number of third parties.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Doug Anmuth with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: It needs to be simple. And I think a lot of what we see with these agents today a lot of the kind of proto agents is it takes a bunch of fiddling.

Doug Anmuth: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. One for Susan, one for Mark. Susan, you talked about how LLMs are increasingly capable of delivering ranking and recommendation gains. Can you just talk more about the roadmap here and how far along you are in just leveraging better models and more compute? Mark, just in terms of the number of offers to monetize your compute externally, you also at the same time are purchasing capacity from a number of third parties. Just hoping you can help us understand some of the differences here. Is it just timing and stopgap issues, or is it training versus inference and leveraging the chips that are best suited for each? Thanks.

Speaker #4: You have to get into a terminal to get it set up. You get a use case going. It kind of seems magical, but then maybe it breaks down over time.

Speaker #5: So just hoping you can help us understand some of the differences here. Is it just timing and stopgap issues or is it training versus inference and leveraging the chips that are best suited for each?

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Doug. I'll take that first question about where we are on the recommendations roadmap. First of all, we certainly see further headroom to continue improving recommendations over the rest of the year and into 2027.

Speaker #4: While also developing the models that we think are going to continue to advance new capabilities to create new product lines as well. So this is why we're very optimistic.

Speaker #4: Now, I get we are we're going to ship this at some point soon. And that's going to be very exciting. And we haven't done that yet.

Speaker #1: And we expect that will help us drive additional gains on both engagement on Facebook and Instagram. A couple of things I would highlight. First, we'll continue to make recommendations even more personalized and relevant to user interests.

Susan Li: Thanks, Doug. I'll take that first question about where we are on the recommendations roadmap. First of all, we certainly see further headroom to continue improving recommendations over the rest of the year and into 2027, and we expect that will help us drive additional gains on both engagement on Facebook and Instagram. A couple things I would highlight. First, we'll continue to make recommendations even more personalized and relevant to user interests. That's in part by advancing our recommendation models and architectures to further capture user interest more precisely and respond faster to what people care about in a given moment.

Speaker #1: And that's in part by advancing our recommendation models and architectures to further capture user interests more precisely. And respond faster to what people care about in a given moment.

Speaker #1: Our AI investments are going to play a significant role in delivering on this vision. Including the expansion of LLM-based content understanding to develop a deeper understanding of posts and creators that people value, to capture user interests more precisely and respond more quickly to what they care about in the moment, and using AI to surface high-quality, fresh, and trending content and reduce the share of low-quality content.

Speaker #4: And that's what we're very focused on.

Susan Li: Our AI investments are going to play a significant role in delivering on this vision, including the expansion of LLM-based content understanding to develop a deeper understanding of posts and creators that people value to capture user interests more precisely and respond more quickly to what they care about in the moment, and using AI to surface high-quality, fresh, and trending content and reduce the share of low-quality content. Second, we're continuing to improve our data infrastructure to allow our models to train on more data and leverage that data more effectively. We're adding more detail to how we describe content that users have engaged with in the past and enriching past user interaction sequences with more granular content. That allows our models to more precisely learn which engagements are more or less valuable to users.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Doug Anmuth with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Second, we're continuing to improve our data infrastructure to allow our models to train on more data and leverage that data more effectively. We're adding more detail to how we describe content that users have engaged with in the past and enriching past user interaction sequences with more granular content.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. One for Susan and one for Mark. Susan, you talked about how LLMs are increasingly capable of delivering ranking and recommendation gains.

Speaker #1: That allows our models to more precisely learn which engagements are more or less valuable to users. We're continuing to scale up both the length of user interaction sequences we use during training as well as the complexity of our model architectures across Facebook and Instagram to take advantage of the larger data sets.

Speaker #1: And then we've already made significant strides leveraging LLMs for content understanding. We're going to further incorporate them into both our recommendations and content policy enforcement stacks given their capability to more deeply understand content.

Susan Li: We're continuing to scale up both the length of user interaction sequences we use during training, as well as the complexity of our model architectures across Facebook and Instagram to take advantage of the larger datasets. We've already made significant strides leveraging LLMs for content understanding. We're going to further incorporate them into both our recommendations and content policy enforcement stacks, given their capability to more deeply understand content. I would say, broadly, I think we're very optimistic about that body of work. We've also invested in using LLM-based agentic approaches to transforming our recommendation system, and we grew the number of launches from our ranking agents this half. That also helps make our engineers more productive, and that's another path that we're very excited about as well.

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Doug. I'll take that first question about where we are on the recommendations roadmap. First of all, we certainly see further headroom to continue improving recommendations over the rest of the year and into 2027.

Speaker #1: And I would say broadly, I think we're very optimistic about that body of work. We've also invested in using LLM-based agentic approaches to transforming our recommendation system.

Speaker #2: And we expect that will help us drive additional gains on both engagement on Facebook and Instagram. A couple of things I would highlight. First, we'll continue to make recommendations even more personalized and relevant to user interests.

Speaker #1: And we grew the number of launches from our ranking agents this half. That also helps make our engineers more productive. And that's another path that we're very excited about as well.

Speaker #2: And that's in part by advancing our recommendation models and architectures to further capture user interests more precisely. And respond faster to what people care about in a given moment.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Okay. I can answer the second part of that. I mean, I think your question was about how we think about offers that we're getting to sell the compute, but then we're also buying the compute.

Speaker #2: Our AI investments are going to play a significant role in delivering on this LLM-based content understanding, to develop a deeper understanding of posts and creators that people value; to capture user interests more precisely and respond more quickly to what they care about in the moment; and using AI to surface high-quality, fresh, and trending content, and reduce the share of low-quality content.

Speaker #4: I mean, look, the high-level observation is that there's just nowhere near enough compute for all the demand. So that is why we see that basically we are getting a large number of offers for the compute that we have, but also we have a lot of internal uses that we think are going to be quite valuable.

Mark Zuckerberg: Yeah. Okay.

Operator: Your next-

Mark Zuckerberg: I can answer the second part of that. I think your question was about how we think about offers that we're getting to sell the compute, but then we're also buying the compute. Look, the high-level observation is that there's just nowhere near enough compute for all the demand. That is why we see that basically, we are getting a large number of offers for the compute that we have, but also we have a lot of internal uses that we think are going to be quite valuable. Now, in terms of running the business, obviously, a common trade-off that we need to make is around how much do you monetize something today versus develop future assets for the future. I think that it's always a portfolio, right?

Speaker #4: Now, in terms of running the business, obviously a common trade-off that we need to make is around how much do you monetize something today versus develop future assets for the future?

Speaker #2: Second, we're continuing to improve our data infrastructure to allow our models to train on more data, and leverage that data more effectively. We're adding more detail to how we describe content that users have engaged with in the past and enriching past user interaction sequences with more granular content.

Speaker #4: And I think that it's always a portfolio, right? It's not like you don't want to only do long-term things and you know and not kind of prove the markets out that exist in the near term.

Speaker #2: That allows our models to more precisely learn which engagements are more or less valuable to users. We're continuing to scale up both the length of user interaction sequences we use during training, as well as the complexity, across Facebook and Instagram, to take advantage of the larger data sets.

Speaker #4: But I also think it would be foolish to basically just sell all of the compute and take a short-term profit. But when you have the opportunity to build intelligence on top of it, which will be a kind of a multiple and that compounds the value of the compute on top of that.

Mark Zuckerberg: You don't want to only do long-term things and not kind of prove the markets out that exist in the near term. I also think it would be foolish to basically just sell all of the compute and take a short-term profit. When you have the opportunity to build intelligence on top of it, which will be a kind of a multiple and that compounds the value of the compute on top of that.

Speaker #2: And then we've already made significant strides leveraging LLMs for content understanding. We're going to further incorporate them into both our recommendations and content policy enforcement stacks, given their capability to more deeply understand content.

Speaker #4: So I think the answer is what we're doing, which is to basically use a lot of our capital to build out compute, having confidence that we have the ability to monetize the compute directly when that makes sense.

Speaker #2: And I would say, broadly, I think we're very optimistic about that body of work. We've also invested in using LLM-based agentic approaches to transforming our recommendation system.

Speaker #4: But also knowing that we have quite a number of different use cases to monetize the intelligence on top of the compute, including the enterprise cases that we talked about and including some of the consumer and cases that we talked about.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think the answer is what we're doing, which is to basically use a lot of our capital to build out compute, having confidence that we have the ability to monetize the compute directly when that makes sense, but also knowing that we have quite a number of different use cases to monetize the intelligence on top of the compute, including the enterprise cases that we talked about and including some of the consumer and beta cases that we talked about, and including just the core business, which is not even necessarily new products that we haven't talked about, but just in terms of using that to be able to further add intelligence and improve the ranking and recommendations and ads in the core services.

Speaker #2: And we grew the number of launches from our ranking agents this half. That also helps make our engineers more productive, and that's another path that we're very excited about as well.

Speaker #4: And including just the core business, which is not even necessarily new products that we haven't talked about, but just in terms of using that to be able to further add intelligence and improve the ranking and recommendations and ads and the core services.

Speaker #4: So I think all of that is true. And it creates this dynamic where there is a lead time where we're investing in building out these data centers now.

Speaker #4: They come online. At some point in the future, you obviously are not getting value out of them until they're online. But we basically see a very large demand for all of this.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think all of that is true, and it creates this dynamic where there is a lead time where we're investing in building out these data centers now. They come online at some point in the future. You obviously are not getting value out of them until they're online. We basically see a very large demand for all of this and want to go maximize the opportunity to build out all of these different businesses.

Speaker #4: And want to go maximize the opportunity to build out all of these different businesses.

Speaker #4: Now, in terms of running the business, obviously a common trade-off that we need to make is around how much you monetize something today versus developing assets for the future.

Speaker #2: You're next question comes from the line of Justin Post with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks. Mark, you hired the senior leadership of your AI labs about a year ago. Could you just give us your thoughts on how the labs performing and do you think the street will really see an uptick in product velocity as far as models or chips or other things coming forward?

Speaker #4: And I think that it's always a portfolio, right? It's not like you want to only do long-term things and not kind of prove the markets out that exist in the near term.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Post with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Justin Post: Great. Thanks. Mark, you hired the senior leadership of your AI labs about a year ago. Could you just give us your thoughts on how the lab's performing, and do you think the Street will really see an uptick in product velocity as far as models or chips or other things coming forward? What kind of sustainable competitive advantages do you think the lab is building? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And then what kind of sustainable competitive advantages do you think the lab is building? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So I mean, I'm quite happy with the trajectory that we're on. We've released a few models that I think are quite impressive on our early scaling ladder.

Speaker #4: And as I've said, we're in the process of scaling much larger and more advanced models. And we're excited about those too. I think that there's the intelligence aspect of this and then there's the data aspect of it.

Mark Zuckerberg: Yeah. I'm quite happy with the trajectory that we're on. We've released a few models that I think are quite impressive on our early scaling ladder. As I've said, we're in the process of scaling much larger and more advanced models, and we're excited about those too. I think that there's the intelligence aspect of this, and then there's the data aspect of it. I think it is true that in any kind of product category that you want to go into, there is going to be some kind of flywheel where you learn from the behaviors and how people in that community are using the product. In kind of the better that you can do there, the more feedback you get, and then that inevitably makes the product better.

Speaker #4: And I think it is true that in any kind of product category that you want to go into, there is going to be some kind of flywheel where you learn from the behaviors and how people in that community are using the product.

Speaker #4: So in kind of the better that you can do there, the more feedback you get, and then that inevitably makes the product better. So I think this is a field where people understandably are obsessed with intelligence.

Speaker #4: But the data and the knowledge part of it to serve people well is really important. If you're talking about personal super intelligence, then obviously having a very clear mental model of everything that is going on in the person's life and their goals is going to be a very important aspect of that.

Speaker #4: So I think all of that is true. And it creates this dynamic where there is a lead time where we're investing in building out these data centers now.

Speaker #4: They come online. At some point in the future, you obviously are not getting value out of them until they're online. But that's we basically see a very large demand for all of this.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think this is a field where people understandably are obsessed with intelligence, but the data and the knowledge part of it to serve people well is really important. If you're talking about personal super intelligence, then obviously, having a very clear mental model of everything that is going on in the person's life and their goals is going to be a very important aspect of that. Certain companies start with different advantages and different markets and different parts of that. Also, I think part of the reason for working on a number of these different things upfront is that, first of all, the technology is general, so when you build the intelligence out, it can apply to a number of different uses.

Speaker #4: And certain companies start with different advantages and different markets and different parts of that. But also, I think part of the reason for working on a number of these different things upfront is that, first of all, the technology is general.

Speaker #4: And want to go maximize the opportunity to build out all of these different businesses.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Post with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: So when you build the intelligence out, it can apply to a number of different uses. But then you want to invest in building up the flywheel on them because I think that that's how you build the sustainable advantage over time.

Speaker #5: Great, thanks. Mark, you hired the senior leadership of your AI labs about a year ago. Could you just give us your thoughts on how the lab is performing, and do you think the Street will really see an uptick in product velocity as far as models or chips or other things coming forward?

Speaker #4: But I think that we've definitely shown at Meta that when we have a product and a format that works, we I would go as far as to say that I think we're probably the best company in the world at scaling those experiences to billions of people.

Mark Zuckerberg: You want to invest in building up the flywheel on them, because I think that that's how you build the sustainable advantage over time. I think that we've definitely shown at Meta that when we have a product and a format that works, I would go as far as to say that I think we're probably the best company in the world at scaling those experiences to billions of people. I feel quite good about the personal agent work. I feel very good about the business agent work, where we kind of already have our base of advertisers and small businesses that we serve, and the ability to scale that out and roll it out around those. I think that those are durable advantages as well as the data flywheels that we're building on them.

Speaker #5: And then, what kind of sustainable competitive advantages do you think the lab is building? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So I mean, I'm quite happy with the trajectory that we're on. We've released a few models that I think are quite impressive on our early scaling ladder.

Speaker #4: So I feel quite good about the personal agent work. I feel very good about the business agent work where we kind of already have our base of advertisers and small businesses that we serve and the ability to scale that out and roll it out around those.

Speaker #4: And as I've said, we're in the process of scaling much larger and more advanced models, and we're excited about those too. I think that there's the intelligence aspect of this, and then there's the data aspect of it.

Speaker #4: I think that those are durable advantages as well as the data flywheels that we're building on them. And then obviously on the research side, you want to build good culture.

Speaker #4: I mean, this is just kind of the simple stuff, but it's I think that it's you just want to make sure that you're building the team in a way where you're managing things well and kind of consistently with low drama compounding over time.

Mark Zuckerberg: Obviously on the research side, you want to build good culture. This is just kind of the simple stuff, but I think that you just want to make sure that you're building the team in a way where you're managing things well and kind of consistently with low drama compounding over time. That's sort of the goal that you aspire to. I think if you can do that well, then that hopefully may not be a clear mathematical explanation of something, but I think that that's kind of how business works. Yeah, that's what we do.

Speaker #4: And that's sort of the goal that you aspire to. And I think if you can do that well, then that is hopefully may not be kind of a clear mathematical explanation of something, but I think that that's kind of how business works.

Speaker #4: But the data and the knowledge part of it to serve people well is really important. If you're talking about personal superintelligence, then obviously having a very clear mental model of everything that is going on in the person's life and their goals is going to be a very important aspect of that.

Speaker #4: So yeah, that's what we do.

Speaker #2: Here are next Sandler with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Hey Mark, sticking with the comments on the AI lab. So MuseSpark 1.1 is pretty close to the Pareto frontier, but it's at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum or lower cost end, I should say.

Speaker #4: And certain companies start with different advantages in different markets and different parts of that. But also, I think part of the reason for working on a number of these different things upfront is that, first of all, the technology is general.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ross Sandler with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Ross Sandler: Yeah. Hey, Mark. Sticking with the comments on the AI lab. Muse Spark 1.1.1 is pretty close to the Pareto frontier, but it's at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum, or lower cost end, I should say. It sounds like from your last answer, you think it's important to compete at both the lower cost end and the more expensive performant end. Could you just talk about that a little bit? The leadership of your lab has also talked about going back into open source, kind of where you were a couple of years ago. How does that fit into the strategy and all this discussion around monetization of AI products and models? Thank you very much.

Speaker #6: And it sounds like from your last answer, you think it's important to compete at both the lower cost end and the more expensive performance end.

Speaker #4: So when you build the intelligence out, it can apply to a number of different uses. But then you want to invest in building up the flywheel on them, because I think that that's how you build the sustainable advantage over time.

Speaker #6: Could you just talk about that a little bit? And then the leadership of your lab has also talked about going back into open source, kind of where you were a couple of years ago.

Speaker #4: But I think that we've definitely shown at Meta that when we have a product in a format that works, we—I would go as far as to say that I think we're probably the best company in the world at scaling those experiences to billions of people.

Speaker #6: So how does that fit into the strategy and all this discussion around monetization of AI products and models? Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So I mean, just to get into the kind of scientific process on this a little bit, basically training large models at each stage of training a large model, you see novel behaviors.

Speaker #4: So basically the way that you want to do this is you build up from training smaller models to building larger models. And the models that we've released so far are based on there are certain scale in climbing up the scaling ladder and we're continuing to scale larger models.

Speaker #4: I think that those are durable advantages, as well as the data flywheels that we're building on them. And then, obviously, on the research side, you want to build good culture.

Mark Zuckerberg: Yeah. Just to get into the kind of scientific process on this a little bit. Basically, at each stage of training a large model, you see novel behaviors. Basically, the way that you want to do this is you build up from training smaller models to building larger models. The models that we've released so far, they're a certain scale and climbing up the scaling ladder, and we're continuing to scale larger models. I think for Muse Spark 1.1 and Muse Spark 1.1.1, I think that they are very impressive models for the scale of the model, the kind of stage of development of the lab, and I feel quite good about them. Now, we want to have models that are more advanced as well, and that's why we're scaling larger models, and that's why we're building out a bunch of the research infrastructure around that.

Speaker #4: I mean, this is just kind of the simple stuff, but I think that you just want to make sure that you're building the team in a way where you're managing things well and kind of consistently, with low drama compounding over time.

Speaker #4: So I think for MuseSpark 1 and MuseSpark 1.1, I think that they are very impressive models for the scale of the model the kind of stage of development of the lab and I feel quite good about them.

Speaker #4: And that's sort of the goal that you aspire to. And I think if you can do that well, then that is hopefully—may not be kind of a clear mathematical explanation of something—but I think that that's kind of how business works.

Speaker #4: We want to have models that are more advanced as well and that's why we're scaling larger models and that's why we're building out a bunch of the research infrastructure around that.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think for Muse Spark 1.1 and Muse Spark 1.1.1, I think that they are very impressive models for the scale of the model, the kind of stage of development of the lab, and I feel quite good about them. Now, we want to have models that are more advanced as well, and that's why we're scaling larger models, and that's why we're building out a bunch of the research infrastructure around that.

Speaker #4: But at the same time, we also want to have good, more efficient models. That will be a lot of what we serve to consumers at scale.

Speaker #4: So yeah, that's what we do.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Ross Sandler with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey Mark, sticking with the comments on the AI lab. So, MuseSpark 1.1 is pretty close to the Pareto frontier, but it's at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum.

Speaker #4: But if you're serving billions of people, you want the ability to have more advanced models for things that are very hard problems and you want the ability to serve the vast majority of prompts from simpler and more efficient models.

Mark Zuckerberg: At the same time, we also want to have good, more efficient models that will be a lot of what we serve to consumers at scale. Where if you're serving billions of people, you want the ability to have more advanced models for things that are very hard problems, and you want the ability to serve the vast majority of prompts from simpler and more efficient models. I think both are going to be very important. The efficiency really matters, but I also think that we want to be able to solve the hardest problems for businesses and customers around the world. We care about both of them.

Speaker #3: Or lower cost end, I should say. And it sounds like from your last answer, you think it's important to compete at both the lower cost end and the more expensive performance end.

Speaker #4: So I think both are going to be very important. The efficiency really matters, but I also think that we want to be able to solve the hardest problems for businesses and customers around the world.

Speaker #3: Could you just talk about that a little bit? And then the leadership of your lab has also talked about going back into open source, kind of where you were a couple of years ago.

Speaker #4: So we care about both of them. On open source, I think we have always felt like open source was an important part of the ecosystem and it's good for the world.

Speaker #3: So how does that fit into the strategy and all this discussion around monetization of AI products and models? Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: And it creates its own feedback loops that are positive for us around getting the community invested in our infrastructure stack and our work and contributing improvements.

Mark Zuckerberg: On open source, I think we have always felt like open source was an important part of the ecosystem, and it's good for the world, and it creates its own feedback loops that are positive for us around getting the community invested in our infrastructure stack and our work and contributing improvements. We've always basically said that we were going to do a mix of open and closed, and that continues to be true. Now, in ramping up Meta Superintelligence Labs, in some ways, actually counterintuitively, it takes some more work to do open source models because you're not necessarily If you're doing something as a closed system that you're only building for your own use cases, it can be a little more jagged. Whereas if you release it as open and it's going to be used for a lot of things, you want to make it more well-rounded.

Speaker #4: But we've always basically said that we were going to do a mix of open and closed. And that continues to be true. Now, in ramping up Meta's super intelligence labs, in some ways actually counterintuitively, it takes some more work to do open source models because you're not necessarily if you're doing something as a closed system that only you're only building for your own use cases, it can be a little more jagged.

Speaker #4: So basically, the way that you want to do this is you build up from training smaller models to building larger models. And the models that we've released so far are based on a certain scale, in climbing up the scaling ladder, and we're continuing to scale larger models.

Mark Zuckerberg: Now, in ramping up Meta Superintelligence Labs, in some ways, actually counterintuitively, it takes some more work to do open source models because you're not necessarily If you're doing something as a closed system that you're only building for your own use cases, it can be a little more jagged. Whereas if you release it as open and it's going to be used for a lot of things, you want to make it more well-rounded.

Speaker #4: Whereas if you release it as open and it's going to be used for a lot of things, you want to make it more well-rounded.

Speaker #4: So I think for MuseSpark 1 and MuseSpark 1.1, I think that they are very impressive models for the scale of the model, the kind of stage of development of the lab, and I feel quite good about them.

Speaker #4: And I just wanted to make sure that the MSL team was uninhibited in building out the most intelligent models that we could. And we expect that we will get back to releasing some open source models at some point soon.

Speaker #4: Now, we want to have models that are more advanced as well and that's why we're scaling larger models and that's why we're building out a bunch of the research infrastructure around that.

Speaker #4: But like we've always said, we're not dogmatic about this. We think open source is important. We want to contribute to that ecosystem. We plan to do a combination of open and closed models.

Mark Zuckerberg: I just wanted to make sure that the MSL team was uninhibited in building out the most intelligent models that we could. We expect that we will get back to releasing some open source models at some point soon. Like we've always said, we're not dogmatic about this. We think open source is important. We want to contribute to that ecosystem. We plan to do a combination of open and closed models.

Speaker #4: But at the same time, we also want to have good, more efficient models that will be a lot of what we serve to consumers at scale.

Speaker #2: We have time for one more line of Ken Gorelsky with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Thank you too, if I may please. I just want to maybe Mark just touch on the last point again. Around open weight models, there's been a lot of discussion.

Operator: We have time for one more question, and that question comes from the line of Ken Gawrelski with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: You've weighed in on the topic. Why or why not does that change Meta's view of developing closed proprietary frontier models? Is there an opportunity if open weight models proliferate that you don't have to develop your own frontier models?

Ken Gawrelski: Thank you. Two, if I may please. I just want to maybe, Mark, just touch on the last point again around open-weight models. There's been a lot of discussion. You've weighed in on the topic. Why or why not does that change Meta's view of developing closed proprietary frontier models? Is there an opportunity if open-weight models proliferate that you don't have to develop your own frontier models? That's question one. The second one, a clarification, if I may, for Susan. You noted that in your prepared remarks that you plan to maximize 2026 and 2027 capacity. Is that a demand or a supply comment? Meaning, are you suggesting that Meta plans for internal use of all the capacity built through 2027? Or are you saying that you will evaluate 2028 and beyond builds based on demand for Meta products and services? Thank you.

Speaker #4: So, we care about both of them. On open source, I think we have always felt like open source is an important part of the ecosystem, and it's good for the world.

Speaker #4: And it creates its own feedback loops that are positive for us around getting the community invested in our infrastructure stack and our work and contributing improvements.

Speaker #6: So that's question one. And the second one, a clarification, if I may for Susan, you noted that in your prepared remarks that you plan to maximize 26 and 27 capacity.

Speaker #4: But we've always basically said that we were going to do a mix of open and closed. And that continues to be true. Now, in ramping up Meta's superintelligence labs, in some ways actually counterintuitively, it takes some more work to do open source models because you're not necessarily if you're doing something as a closed system that only you're only building for your own use cases, it can be a little more jagged.

Speaker #6: Is that a demand or a supply comment? Meaning, are you suggesting that Meta plans for internal use of all the capacity built through 27?

Ken Gawrelski: The second one, a clarification, if I may, for Susan. You noted that in your prepared remarks that you plan to maximize 2026 and 2027 capacity. Is that a demand or a supply comment? Meaning, are you suggesting that Meta plans for internal use of all the capacity built through 2027? Or are you saying that you will evaluate 2028 and beyond builds based on demand for Meta products and services? Thank you.

Speaker #6: Or are you saying that you will evaluate 28 and beyond builds based on demand for Meta products and services? Thank you.

Speaker #4: I can take the open source question. Let's see. So do we or is it basically the question is do we think that because there are some open weight models that we can just rely on those?

Speaker #4: Whereas if you release it as open and it's going to be used for a lot of things, you want to make it more well-rounded.

Speaker #4: I mean, right now the open source models are not as strong as the frontier models. So no, is the basic answer. And then there's also just always the perpetual both policy debate and question around other companies' actions and whether that's actually a thing that we can that we that a company like Meta can rely on.

Mark Zuckerberg: I can take the open source question. Let's see. Basically, the question is do we think that because there are some open-weight models that we can just rely on those? Right now, the open source models are not as strong as the frontier models, no is the basic answer. Then there's also just always the perpetual both policy debate and question around other companies' actions and whether that's actually a thing that a company like Meta can rely on. I think that's very tricky. I think on both fronts, we believe we're going to be able to do better work, and we think that there's some risk in that reliance. I don't believe that is the right thing to do. I think that we're a company that, if you look at Meta, take a step back on this.

Speaker #4: I think that that's very tricky. So I think on both fronts, we believe we're going to be able to do better work and we think that there's some risk in that reliance.

Speaker #2: We have time for one more question and that question comes from the line of Ken Gorelsky with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: I don't believe that that is the right thing to do. I think that we're a company that if you look at Meta from take a step back on this, a lot of people view the surface layer of we build some social media apps and we have an ad business.

Speaker #3: Thank you too, if I may please. I just want to maybe Mark just touch on the last point again. Around open weight models, there's been a lot of discussion.

Speaker #3: You've weighed in on the topic. Why or why not does that change Meta's view of developing closed proprietary frontier models? Is there an opportunity if open weight models proliferate that you don't have to develop your own frontier models?

Speaker #4: We are really a full stack technology company. We built our own data centers, our own infrastructure, our own chips, our own low-level software. When we got started, and I like to my background in engineering I wrote a lot of the systems code.

Mark Zuckerberg: A lot of people view the surface layer of we build some social media apps and we have an ad business. We are really a full stack technology company. We've built our own data centers, our own infrastructure, our own chips, our own low-level software. When we got started, my background in engineering, I wrote a lot of the systems code. A lot of the reason why Facebook worked was because it just worked. It literally worked when other social networks did not work fast and efficiently. I think we just have the ability to build things that can be more personalized, more optimized, more efficient. Some qualitative experiences are just not even possible for others to build because we go all the way down the stack.

Speaker #4: A lot of the reason why Facebook worked was because it actually it just worked, right? It literally worked when other social networks did not work fast and efficiently.

Speaker #3: So that's question one. And the second one, a clarification if I may for Susan. You noted that in your prepared remarks that you plan to maximize 26 and 27 capacity.

Speaker #4: And I think we just have the ability to build things that can be more personalized, more optimized, more efficient. Some qualitative experiences are just not even possible for others to build because we go all the way down the stack.

Speaker #3: Is that a demand or a supply comment? Meaning, are you suggesting that Meta plans for internal use of all the capacity built through 27?

Speaker #3: Or are you saying that you will evaluate 28 and beyond builds based on demand for Meta products and services? Thank you.

Speaker #4: And it just seems to me pretty clear that having kind of sovereignty over building your own models is going to be an important part of that stack going forward, which is why it is important for Meta but is also important is also why other people care about open source and why open source matters overall because other companies if they even if they don't have the ability to build these models, do not want to have to just rely on a small number of closed labs.

Speaker #4: I can take the open source question. Let's see. So do we or is it basically the question is do we think that because there are some open weight models that we can just rely on those.

Mark Zuckerberg: It just seems to me pretty clear that having kind of sovereignty over building your own models is going to be an important part of that stack going forward, which is why it is important for Meta, but is also why other people care about open source and why open source matters overall. Other companies, even if they don't have the ability to build these models, do not want to have to just rely on a small number of closed labs. I think that there is a very important place in the world for there to be open source models.

Speaker #4: I think that there is a very important place in the world for there to be open source models and to be clear, that doesn't take away from the API opportunity or any of the things that I'm talking about because someone still needs to run the models.

Speaker #4: And run inference on them and be able to kind of run those models efficiently and have the compute to do that is going to continue to be a source of business advantage.

Speaker #4: I think that that's very tricky. So I think on both fronts, we believe we're going to be able to do better work and we think that there's some risk in that reliance.

Speaker #4: So I don't really think that these things are necessarily at odds. But when I look at what a lot of discerning customers and companies are going to want around the world, they're going to know that they they're going to want to know that they have control of their destiny and that they can trust the models that they're using and that their data is safe and that they're not sending it to competitors and all that.

Mark Zuckerberg: To be clear, that doesn't take away from the API opportunity or any of the things that I'm talking about, because someone still needs to run the models and run inference on them and be able to kind of run those models efficiently and have the compute to do that is going to continue to be a source of business advantage. I don't really think that these things are necessarily at odds. When I look at what a lot of discerning customers and companies are going to want around the world, they're going to want to know that they have control of their destiny and that they can trust the models that they're using and that their data is safe and that they're not sending it to competitors and all that.

Speaker #4: I don't believe that that is the right thing to do. I think that, if you look at Meta and take a step back on this, a lot of people view the surface layer as: we build some social media apps and we have an ad business.

Speaker #4: So I think open source is going to be important, but I think for us also building the models is going to be a critical part of it.

Speaker #4: We are really a full stack technology company. Now, we built our own data centers, our own infrastructure, our own chips, our own low-level software.

Speaker #4: It also for what it's worth, and I know that the models all get evaluated on a common set of evals and they get chalked up to like, okay, some models within a couple of points of another model or whatever.

Speaker #4: When we got started, and I like to my background in engineering, I wrote a lot of the systems code. A lot of the reason why Facebook worked was because it actually it just worked, right?

Speaker #4: But they all really do have different combinations of skills, kind of like people, right? It's like people have spikes in certain areas and have different personalities and are better and worse at different things.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think open source is going to be important, but I think for us also building the models is going to be a critical part of it. It also, for what it's worth, I know that the models all get evaluated on a common set of evals and they get chalked up to some models within a couple of points of another model or whatever. They all really do have different combinations of skills, kind of like people. It's like people have spikes in certain areas and have different personalities and are better and worse at different things. If you're trying to build personal super intelligence for people or you're trying to build a business agent for small businesses, that needs to have potentially some different skills than what the other labs are tuning.

Speaker #4: It literally worked when other social networks did not work fast and efficiently. And I think we just have the ability to build things that can be more personalized, more optimized, more efficient. Some qualitative experiences are just not even possible for others to build because we go all the way down the stack.

Speaker #4: And if you're trying to build personal super intelligence for people or you're trying to build a business agent for small businesses, that needs to have potentially some different skills than what the other labs are tuning.

Speaker #4: And just like being able to do the full stack work on our on Instagram recommendations or on our ad system, is how we've gotten the results there over time.

Speaker #4: I believe that building the kind of full stack model is going to be a lot of the advantage over time and how we build personal super intelligence agents, business agents, all these different use cases for all of the different customers that we want to serve.

Mark Zuckerberg: Just like being able to do the full stack work on our Instagram recommendations or on our ad system is how we've gotten the results there over time. I believe that building the full stack model is going to be a lot of the advantage over time in how we build personal super intelligence agents, business agents, all these different use cases for all of the different customers that we want to serve. In addition to the distribution that we have and the ability to reach all these people and scale products that work, I think this is a lot of the durable advantage, is that you build something that is specific to that use case and excellent at those use cases. Look, I get that this is a big investment and it's a big bet. We see the technology working.

Speaker #4: So in addition to the distribution that we have and the ability to reach all these people and scale products that work, I think this is a lot of the durable advantage is that you build something that is kind of specific to that use case and excellent at those use cases.

Speaker #4: And I mean, look, I get that this is a big investment and it's a big bet. We see the technology working. We're happy with the trajectory of the lab.

Speaker #4: And run inference on them and be able to kind of run those models efficiently and have the compute to do that is going to continue to be a source of business advantage.

Speaker #4: I'm excited about the products that are coming. And we believe that this is going to be a big thing. So I mean, I get that this is sort of a big bet across the industry.

Speaker #4: So I don't really think that these things are necessarily at odds. But when I look at what a lot of discerning customers and companies are going to want around the world, they're going to know that they they're going to want to know that they have control of their destiny and that they can trust the models, that they're using and that their data is safe and that they're not sending it to competitors and all that.

Speaker #4: My personal bet is that the people who invest in this are going to be rewarded and feel very good over time.

Speaker #2: Can all just quickly answer your second question? When we refer to focusing on 2026 and 27 capacity, there are really two factors. One is we are today and expect to be in the sort of foreseeable future demand too, where there are we still have numerous ROI positive places, but we would put that we would put compute toward if we had it.

Mark Zuckerberg: We're happy with the trajectory of the lab. I'm excited about the products that are coming, and we believe that this is going to be a big thing. I get that this is sort of a big bet across the industry. My personal bet is that the people who invest in this are going to be rewarded and feel very good over time.

Speaker #4: So I think open source is going to be important, but I think for us also building the models is going to be a critical part of it.

Susan Li: Ken, I'll just quickly answer your second question. When we refer to focusing on 2026 and 2027 capacity, there are really two factors. One is we are today, and expect to be in the foreseeable future, demand-constrained. That really includes our core business too, where we still have numerous ROI-positive places that we would put compute toward if we had it. The second, of course, is just the uncertainty over long-term constraints on building capacity, and we talked about some of the need to build out more of the supply chain earlier in my comments. I think beyond 2027, when we look into 2028 and further than that, the world is going to evolve a lot. Our own internal demand will evolve. We'll have turned over a lot of cards by then. When we think about planning today for 2028, we're really focusing on flexibility.

Speaker #2: And the second, of course, is just the uncertainty over long-term constraints on building capacity. And we talked about some of the sort of the need to build out more of the supply chain earlier in my comments.

Speaker #2: So I think beyond 27, when we look into 28 and further than that, the world is going to evolve a lot. Our own internal demand will evolve.

Susan Li: The second, of course, is just the uncertainty over long-term constraints on building capacity, and we talked about some of the need to build out more of the supply chain earlier in my comments. I think beyond 2027, when we look into 2028 and further than that, the world is going to evolve a lot. Our own internal demand will evolve. We'll have turned over a lot of cards by then. When we think about planning today for 2028, we're really focusing on flexibility.

Speaker #2: We'll have turned over a lot of cards by then. And so when we think about planning today for 28, we're really focusing on flexibility.

Speaker #4: And just like being able to do the full stack work on our on Instagram recommendations or on our ad system, is how we've gotten the results there over time.

Speaker #2: That's just giving us kind of the ability to have land and power but to really make the actual decisions about buying chips and other big ticket items further in the future.

Speaker #2: So for now, I think we know we have a lot of good use cases for capacity in 26 and 27, and that's really what we're building toward.

Susan Li: That's just giving us the ability to have land and power, but to really make the actual decisions about buying chips and other big ticket items further in the future. For now, I think we know we have a lot of good use cases for capacity in 2026 and 2027, and that's really what we're building towards.

Speaker #1: Great. Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.

Speaker #4: So in addition to the distribution that we have and the ability to reach all these people and scale products that work, I think this is a lot of the durable advantage—it's that you build something that is kind of specific to that use case and excellent at those use cases.

Speaker #4: And I mean, look, I get that this is a big investment and it's a big bet. We see the technology working. We're happy with the trajectory of the lab.

Chad Heaton: Great. Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.

Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.

Speaker #4: I'm excited about the products that are coming, and we believe that this is going to be a big thing. So, I mean, I get that this is sort of a big bet across the industry.

Speaker #4: My personal bet is that the people who invest in this are going to be rewarded and feel very good over time.

Speaker #2: I'll just quickly answer your second question. When we refer to focusing on 2026 and 2027 capacity, there are really two factors. One is we are today, and expect to be in the foreseeable future, demand constrained.

Speaker #2: And that really includes our core business too, where there are we still have numerous ROI positive places, but we would put that we would put compute toward if we had it.

Speaker #2: And the second, of course, is just the uncertainty over long-term constraints on building capacity. And we talked about some of the need to build out more of the supply chain earlier in my comments.

Speaker #2: So I think beyond '27, when we look into '28 and further than that, the world is going to evolve a lot. Our own internal demand will evolve.

Speaker #2: We'll have turned over a lot of cards by then. And so when we think about planning today for 28, we're really focusing on flexibility.

Speaker #2: That's just giving us kind of the ability to have land and power but to really make the actual decisions about buying chips and other big ticket items further in the future.

Speaker #2: So for now, I think we know we have a lot of good use cases for capacity in 26 and 27, and that's really what we're building toward.

Speaker #1: Great. Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.

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