Q2 2026 Gevo Inc Earnings Call
Operator 2: Thank you for standing by. My name is Greg, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to today's Gevo, Inc. Q2 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. If you'd like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Eric Frey. Eric?
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Greg, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to today's Gevo, Inc. Q2 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.
Operator: If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. If you'd like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Eric Frey. Eric?
Speaker #1: Fry. Eric? All lines have been placed on mute to
Eric Frey: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call to discuss Gevo's Q2 results. I'm Eric Frey, Vice President of Finance and Strategy at Gevo. With me today, we have Paul Bloom, our Chief Executive Officer, and Leke Agiri, our Chief Financial Officer. We also have Kyle James, our Chief Commercial Officer, and Greg Hanselman, our Executive Vice President of Operations and Engineering. Earlier today, we issued a press release that outlines our Q2 2026 results and some of the topics we plan to discuss. Copies of the press release are available on our website at www.gevo.com. Please be advised that our remarks today, including answers to your questions, contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be materially different from those currently anticipated.
Eric Frey: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call to discuss Gevo's Q2 results. I'm Eric Frey, Vice President of Finance and Strategy at Gevo. With me today, we have Paul Bloom, our Chief Executive Officer, and Leke Agiri, our Chief Financial Officer. We also have Kyle James, our Chief Commercial Officer, and Greg Hanselman, our Executive Vice President of Operations and Engineering.
Speaker #2: Chief Financial Officer. We also have Earlier today, we issued a press release that outlined our second quarter 2026 results, and some of the topics we plan to discuss.
Speaker #2: Chief Financial Officer. We also have Earlier today, we issued a press release that outlined our second quarter 2026 results, and some of the topics we plan to discuss. on our website at www.gevo.com.
Eric Frey: Earlier today, we issued a press release that outlines our Q2 2026 results and some of the topics we plan to discuss. Copies of the press release are available on our website at www.gevo.com.
Speaker #2: Please be advised that our remarks today, including answers to your questions, contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act.
Eric Frey: Please be advised that our remarks today, including answers to your questions, contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be materially different from those currently anticipated.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be materially different from those currently anticipated. Those statements include projections about the timing, development, engineering, financing, and construction of our potential expansion and debottlenecking of our Gevo North Dakota plant; our expected future cash flows and adjusted EBITDA; our expected carbon business revenues; our expected future tax credit monetizations; and other activities described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are incorporated by reference.
Eric Frey: Those statements include projections about the timing, development, engineering, financing, and construction of our potential expansion and debottlenecking of our Gevo North Dakota plant, our expected future cash flows and adjusted EBITDA, our expected carbon business revenues, our expected future tax credit monetizations, and other activities described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are incorporated by reference. In addition, we may provide certain non-GAAP financial information on this call. The relevant definitions and GAAP reconciliations may be found in our earnings release, which can be found on our website at www.gevo.com in the investor relations section. Following the prepared remarks, we'll open the call for questions. I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call is open to the media, and we're providing a simultaneous webcast to the public.
Eric Frey: Those statements include projections about the timing, development, engineering, financing, and construction of our potential expansion and debottlenecking of our Gevo North Dakota plant, our expected future cash flows and adjusted EBITDA, our expected carbon business revenues, our expected future tax credit monetizations, and other activities described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are incorporated by reference. In addition, we may provide certain non-GAAP financial information on this call.
Speaker #2: We disclaim any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. In addition, we may provide certain non-GAAP financial information on this call. The relevant definitions and GAAP reconciliations may be found in our earnings release, which can be found on our website at www.gevo.com, in the Investor Relations section.
Eric Frey: The relevant definitions and GAAP reconciliations may be found in our earnings release, which can be found on our website at www.gevo.com in the investor relations section. Following the prepared remarks, we'll open the call for questions. I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call is open to the media, and we're providing a simultaneous webcast to the public.
Speaker #2: Following the prepared remarks, we'll open the call for questions. I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call is open to the media, and we're providing a simultaneous webcast to the public.
Speaker #2: A replay of this call and other past events will be available via the company's Investor Relations page at www.gevo.com. I'd now like to turn the call over to the CEO of Gevo, Paul Bloom.
Eric Frey: A replay of this call and other past events will be available via the company's investor relations page at www.gevo.com. I'd now like to turn the call over to the CEO of Gevo, Paul Bloom. Paul?
Eric Frey: A replay of this call and other past events will be available via the company's investor relations page at www.gevo.com. I'd now like to turn the call over to the CEO of Gevo, Paul Bloom. Paul?
Speaker #2: Paul?
Speaker #3: Good afternoon, everyone. Gevo is a strong, growing business. Our operating results this quarter demonstrate that our company is set to deliver revenue growth and positive cash flow from operations, our carbon strategy is working well, and we are positioning the business for three stages of expansion that build on our existing operations and capture near and medium-term opportunities.
Paul Bloom: Good afternoon, everyone. Gevo is a strong, growing business. Our operating results this quarter demonstrate that our company is set to deliver revenue growth and positive cash flow from operations. Our carbon strategy is working well, and we are positioning the business for 3 stages of expansion that build on our existing operations and capture near and medium-term opportunities. Long term, we believe the businesses we are building today will serve as the blueprint for future growth. Our results also demonstrate that Gevo is not just a future story. Revenue increased 7% compared to the last quarter, and gross profit increased 70% in the past six months compared to the same period last year. Some of that increase reflects six full months of benefit from the Red Trail assets we acquired instead of five months during the same period last year.
Paul Bloom: Good afternoon, everyone. Gevo is a strong, growing business. Our operating results this quarter demonstrate that our company is set to deliver revenue growth and positive cash flow from operations. Our carbon strategy is working well, and we are positioning the business for three stages of expansion that build on our existing operations and capture near and medium-term opportunities. Long term, we believe the businesses we are building today will serve as the blueprint for future growth.
Speaker #3: Long term, we believe the businesses we are building today will serve as the blueprint for future growth. Our results also demonstrate that Gevo is not just a future story.
Paul Bloom: Our results also demonstrate that Gevo is not just a future story. Revenue increased 7% compared to the last quarter, and gross profit increased 70% in the past six months compared to the same period last year. Some of that increase reflects six full months of benefit from the Red Trail assets we acquired instead of five months during the same period last year.
Speaker #3: Revenue increased 7% compared to the last quarter, and gross profit increased 70% in the past six months compared to the same period last year.
Speaker #3: Some of that increase reflects six full months of benefit from the red trail assets we acquired instead of five months during the same period last year.
Speaker #3: But the majority of that increase reflects a durable strengthening of our core low-carbon ethanol and renewable natural gas businesses. In the second quarter, our team continued to deliver on critical milestones we've communicated previously.
Paul Bloom: The majority of that increase reflects a durable strengthening of our core low carbon ethanol and renewable natural gas businesses. In Q2, our team continued to deliver on critical milestones we've communicated previously. Our debottlenecking activities in our Gevo North Dakota facility remain on target to increase our low carbon ethanol capacity to 75 million gallons per year by the end of 2026. We also advanced new carbon market pathways, identified new cost efficiencies, and optimized the sale of carbon attributes. As a result, we now expect full year 2026 non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA of more than $60 million, which is double our previous estimate. These developments are significant, and they reflect a disciplined execution to unlock new revenue opportunities.
Paul Bloom: The majority of that increase reflects a durable strengthening of our core low carbon ethanol and renewable natural gas businesses. In Q2, our team continued to deliver on critical milestones we've communicated previously. Our debottlenecking activities in our Gevo North Dakota facility remain on target to increase our low carbon ethanol capacity to 75 million gallons per year by the end of 2026.
Speaker #3: Our debottlenecking activities in our Gevo North Dakota facility remain on target to increase our low-carbon ethanol capacity to 75 million gallons per year by the end of 2026.
Speaker #3: We also advanced new carbon market pathways identified new cost efficiencies, and optimized the sale of carbon attributes. As a result, we now expect full-year 2026 non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA of more than $60 million.
Paul Bloom: We also advanced new carbon market pathways, identified new cost efficiencies, and optimized the sale of carbon attributes. As a result, we now expect full year 2026 non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA of more than $60 million, which is double our previous estimate. These developments are significant, and they reflect a disciplined execution to unlock new revenue opportunities.
Speaker #3: Which is double our previous estimate. These developments are significant, and they reflect disciplined execution to unlock new revenue opportunities. A particularly important milestone is our recent Canada Clean Fuel Regulation, or CFR, pathway approval for low-carbon ethanol with carbon capture and sequestration, which was granted in the second quarter.
Paul Bloom: A particularly important milestone is our recent Canada Clean Fuel Regulation, or CFR, pathway approval for low carbon ethanol with carbon capture and sequestration, which was granted in Q2. This pathway gives Gevo access to a more than 1 billion gallon per year compliance market for our low carbon ethanol beginning in Q3 and further diversifies our cash flows internationally. It also gives us another lever to improve returns from our carbon business by directing carbon value to the markets where it is worth the most, whether bundled with our fuels in compliance markets or sold separately in voluntary markets. Importantly, the approval also applies retroactively to credits we banked for low carbon ethanol sold into Canada beginning in 2025. We've already sold approximately 17 million of these banked credits to be recognized in Q3.
Paul Bloom: A particularly important milestone is our recent Canada Clean Fuel Regulation, or CFR, pathway approval for low carbon ethanol with carbon capture and sequestration, which was granted in Q2. This pathway gives Gevo access to a more than 1 billion gallon per year compliance market for our low carbon ethanol beginning in Q3 and further diversifies our cash flows internationally.
Speaker #3: This pathway gives Gevo access to a more than $1 billion gallon per year compliance market for our low-carbon ethanol beginning in the third quarter, and further diversifies our cash flows internationally.
Speaker #3: It also gives us another lever to improve returns from our carbon business by directing carbon value to the markets where it is worth the most.
Paul Bloom: It also gives us another lever to improve returns from our carbon business by directing carbon value to the markets where it is worth the most, whether bundled with our fuels in compliance markets or sold separately in voluntary markets. Importantly, the approval also applies retroactively to credits we banked for low carbon ethanol sold into Canada beginning in 2025. We've already sold approximately 17 million of these banked credits to be recognized in Q3.
Speaker #3: Whether bundled with our fuels in compliance markets or sold separately in voluntary markets. Importantly, the approval also applies retroactively to credits we banked for low-carbon ethanol sold into Canada beginning in 2025.
Speaker #3: And we've already sold approximately 17 million of these bank credits to be recognized in the third quarter. Going forward, we believe our carbon business, based on current capacity and market conditions, can deliver over $30 million per year in revenue on a run-rate basis excluding our bank CFR credit sales.
Paul Bloom: Going forward, we believe our carbon business, based on current capacity and market conditions, can deliver over $30 million per year in revenue on a run rate basis, excluding our banked CFR credit sales. We're not simply producing low carbon ethanol co-products in RNG. Those commodity products are a means to deliver energy that drops into supply chains today while also driving down carbon intensity. Producing more efficiently, capturing and storing carbon will be the same durable model we use in the future for SAF, isobutanol, and other renewable fuels and chemicals powered by our Verity Carbon Accounting digital solutions platform. We expect to grow with discipline by scaling the businesses we have today and delivering the products and solutions our customers and markets demand. At Gevo North Dakota, we are focused on growing our low carbon fuel and carbon businesses through a three-stage plan. First, debottlenecking the plant.
Paul Bloom: Going forward, we believe our carbon business, based on current capacity and market conditions, can deliver over $30 million per year in revenue on a run rate basis, excluding our banked CFR credit sales. We're not simply producing low carbon ethanol co-products in RNG. Those commodity products are a means to deliver energy that drops into supply chains today while also driving down carbon intensity.
Speaker #3: We're not simply producing low-carbon ethanol co-products in R&G. Those commodity products are a means to deliver energy that drops into supply chains today while also driving down carbon intensity, producing more efficiently, capturing and storing carbon, will be the same durable model we use in the future for our very carbon-accounting digital solutions platform.
Paul Bloom: Producing more efficiently, capturing and storing carbon will be the same durable model we use in the future for SAF, isobutanol, and other renewable fuels and chemicals powered by our Verity Carbon Accounting digital solutions platform.
Speaker #3: We expect to grow with discipline by scaling the businesses we have today and delivering the products and solutions our customers and markets demand. At Gevo North Dakota, we are focused on growing our low-carbon fuel and carbon businesses through a three-stage plan.
Paul Bloom: We expect to grow with discipline by scaling the businesses we have today and delivering the products and solutions our customers and markets demand. At Gevo North Dakota, we are focused on growing our low carbon fuel and carbon businesses through a three-stage plan. First, debottlenecking the plant.
Speaker #3: First, debottlenecking the plant. Second, expanding capacity to double low-carbon ethanol and carbon capture. And third, producing SAF. Stage one is our debottlenecking initiative to increase low-carbon ethanol co-products, carbon capture, and associated incentive volumes by approximately 10 to 15 percent by the end of this year.
Paul Bloom: Second, expanding capacity to double low carbon ethanol and carbon capture, and third, producing SAF. Stage 1 is our debottlenecking initiative to increase low carbon ethanol co-products, carbon capture, and associated incentive volumes by approximately 10% to 15% by the end of this year. Meaningful progress was made during Q2, and we remain on track and on budget to deliver this anticipated extra capacity, thereby enhancing revenues, growing adjusted EBITDA, and expanding our margins in 2027. This near-term expansion is fully funded and budgeted for this year and builds on our assets we already own and operate. We believe our Gevo North Dakota complex can create more value in the near term while also supporting longer-term growth. Stronger cash generation from Gevo North Dakota helps us reduce risk and enhances our future financing flexibility.
Paul Bloom: Second, expanding capacity to double low carbon ethanol and carbon capture, and third, producing SAF. Stage 1 is our debottlenecking initiative to increase low carbon ethanol co-products, carbon capture, and associated incentive volumes by approximately 10% to 15% by the end of this year. Meaningful progress was made during Q2, and we remain on track and on budget to deliver this anticipated extra capacity, thereby enhancing revenues, growing adjusted EBITDA, and expanding our margins in 2027.
Speaker #3: Meaningful progress was made during the second quarter, and we remain on track and on budget to deliver this anticipated extra capacity thereby enhancing revenues, growing adjusted EBITDA, and expanding our margins in 2027.
Speaker #3: This near-term expansion is fully funded and budgeted for this year and builds on our asset we already own and operate. We believe our Gevo North Dakota complex can create more value in the near term while also supporting longer-term growth.
Paul Bloom: This near-term expansion is fully funded and budgeted for this year and builds on our assets we already own and operate. We believe our Gevo North Dakota complex can create more value in the near term while also supporting longer-term growth. Stronger cash generation from Gevo North Dakota helps us reduce risk and enhances our future financing flexibility.
Speaker #3: Stronger cash generation for Gevo North Dakota helps us reduce risk and enhances our future financing flexibility. Our Gevo North Dakota complex is better suited to support a strategic platform growth than the Lake Preston South Dakota site we were previously developing.
Paul Bloom: Our Gevo North Dakota complex is better suited to support a strategic platform growth than the Lake Preston South Dakota site we were previously developing. Gevo North Dakota combines one of the strongest active on-site carbon capture and sequestration capabilities in the world, with access to advantaged local feedstocks, established rail and truck logistics, an experienced operating workforce, available land and pore space capacity for future growth, and it's in a business-friendly state that supports agriculture, energy, and carbon management. Given the strengths of the Gevo North Dakota complex and other business factors we considered, we have finalized our decision to exit our ATJ60 project activities in South Dakota and formally discontinued other non-core project activities. As a result, we recognized $176 million one-time non-cash impairment charge. Leke will talk more about this non-cash charge.
Paul Bloom: Our Gevo North Dakota complex is better suited to support a strategic platform growth than the Lake Preston South Dakota site we were previously developing. Gevo North Dakota combines one of the strongest active on-site carbon capture and sequestration capabilities in the world, with access to advantaged local feedstocks, established rail and truck logistics, an experienced operating workforce, available land and pore space capacity for future growth, and it's in a business-friendly state that supports agriculture, energy, and carbon management. Given the strengths of the Gevo North Dakota complex and other business factors we considered, we have finalized our decision to exit our ATJ60 project activities in South Dakota and formally discontinued other non-core project activities. As a result, we recognized $176 million one-time non-cash impairment charge. Leke will talk more about this non-cash charge.
Speaker #3: Gevo North Dakota combines one of the strongest active on-site carbon capture and sequestration capabilities in the world with access to advantaged local feedstocks, established rail and truck logistics, an experienced operating workforce, available land and pore space capacity for future growth, and it's in a business-friendly state that supports agriculture, energy, and carbon management.
Speaker #3: Given the strengths of the Gevo North Dakota complex and other business factors we considered, we have finalized our decision to exit our ATJ60 project activities in South Dakota and formally discontinued other non-core project activities.
Speaker #3: As a result, we recognized $176 million one-time non-cash impairment charge Lake A will talk more about this non-cash charge. Continuing with our growth plans, stage two at Gevo North Dakota targets doubling our capacity to about 150 million gallons per year of low-carbon ethanol with associated carbon capture and sequestration and tax incentive opportunities.
Paul Bloom: Continuing with our growth plans, stage 2 at Gevo North Dakota targets doubling our capacity to about 150 million gallons per year of low carbon ethanol, with associated carbon capture and sequestration and tax incentive opportunities. Financing efforts for this expansion are on track and are targeted to be completed in H2 2026, consistent with our previously announced arrangement and timeline with Ara Energy. Engineering, permitting, and initial equipment procurement for the expansion project are underway. We anticipate completion of the expansion in 2028 once financing is complete and construction commences. This expansion is expected to result in meaningful revenue and gross profit growth. Stage 3 of our growth plan contemplates the conversion of approximately one-third of Gevo North Dakota's expanded low carbon ethanol capacity into higher value synthetic aviation fuel through Project Northstar, also known as ATJ30, which is our 30-million-gallon per year alcohol-to-jet development project.
Paul Bloom: Continuing with our growth plans, stage 2 at Gevo North Dakota targets doubling our capacity to about 150 million gallons per year of low carbon ethanol, with associated carbon capture and sequestration and tax incentive opportunities. Financing efforts for this expansion are on track and are targeted to be completed in H2 2026, consistent with our previously announced arrangement and timeline with Ara Energy. Engineering, permitting, and initial equipment procurement for the expansion project are underway. We anticipate completion of the expansion in 2028 once financing is complete and construction commences. This expansion is expected to result in meaningful revenue and gross profit growth. Stage 3 of our growth plan contemplates the conversion of approximately one-third of Gevo North Dakota's expanded low carbon ethanol capacity into higher value synthetic aviation fuel through Project Northstar, also known as ATJ30, which is our 30-million-gallon per year alcohol-to-jet development project.
Speaker #3: Financing efforts for this expansion are on track and are targeted to be completed in the second half of 2026, consistent with our previously announced arrangement and timeline with our energy.
Speaker #3: Engineering, permitting, and initial equipment procurement for the expansion project are underway. We anticipate completion of the expansion in 2028 once financing is complete and construction commences.
Speaker #3: This expansion is expected to result in meaningful revenue and gross profit growth. Stage three of our growth plan contemplates the conversion of approximately one-third of Gevo North Dakota's expanded low-carbon ethanol capacity into higher value, synthetic aviation fuel, through Project Northstar, also known as ATJ30, which is our $30 million gallon per year alcohol-to-jet development project.
Speaker #3: We are making good progress on this medium-term multi-year effort and provide a detailed on our milestones and our recent business update. The team delivered our FEL3 engineering estimates on schedule in the second quarter.
Paul Bloom: We are making good progress on this medium-term multi-year effort and provided details on our milestones in our recent business update. The team delivered our FEL3 engineering estimates on schedule in Q2. As we moved from FEL2 to FEL3, the capital estimate was refined based on substantially more detailed engineering, vendor engagement, and execution planning. The updated estimate of $600 million remains within the expected range and accuracy associated with an FEL2 estimate, and we believe it provides much higher level of confidence as we approach FID. FEL3 showed very favorable results for the underlying alcohol-to-jet process modules, which were within 2% of the previous estimates. That's a good sign for enabling the development in a repeatable fashion at other locations in the future. The site-specific engineering and equipment logistics costs increased in FEL3, we believe that the project's ROI remains attractive.
Paul Bloom: We are making good progress on this medium-term multi-year effort and provided details on our milestones in our recent business update. The team delivered our FEL3 engineering estimates on schedule in Q2. As we moved from FEL2 to FEL3, the capital estimate was refined based on substantially more detailed engineering, vendor engagement, and execution planning. The updated estimate of $600 million remains within the expected range and accuracy associated with an FEL2 estimate, and we believe it provides much higher level of confidence as we approach FID. FEL3 showed very favorable results for the underlying alcohol-to-jet process modules, which were within 2% of the previous estimates. That's a good sign for enabling the development in a repeatable fashion at other locations in the future. The site-specific engineering and equipment logistics costs increased in FEL3, we believe that the project's ROI remains attractive.
Speaker #3: As we moved from FEL2 to FEL3, the capital estimate was refined based on substantially more detailed engineering vendor engagement and execution planning. The updated estimate of $600 million remains within the expected range and accuracy associated with an FEL2 estimate, and we believe it provides much higher level of confidence as we approach FID.
Speaker #3: FEL3 showed very favorable results for the underlying alcohol-to-jet process modules, which were within 2 percent of the previous estimates. That's a good sign for enabling the development in a repeatable fashion at other locations in the future.
Speaker #3: The site-specific engineering and equipment logistics cost increased in FEL3, but we believe that projects ROI remains attractive. Securing additional financeable offtake agreements is needed to reach FID and remains a gating item.
Paul Bloom: Securing additional financiable offtake agreements is needed to reach FID and remains a gating item. These are complex multi-year economic commitments, we are making progress advancing these agreements from the current term sheet stage. We remain committed to advancing our ATJ30 initiative in a disciplined way, sequencing capital based on customer demand, project financeability, and policy support. As a reminder, we are currently pursuing non-dilutive project-level financing for the project. We do not have to choose between becoming a cash-generating low carbon fuels and carbon management business and building future ATJ projects. The Gevo North Dakota site and its near-term cash generation are expected to support ATJ in the future. We continue to target final investment decision for this initiative by the end of the year. I will now turn the call over to Leke to discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail.
Paul Bloom: Securing additional financiable offtake agreements is needed to reach FID and remains a gating item. These are complex multi-year economic commitments, we are making progress advancing these agreements from the current term sheet stage. We remain committed to advancing our ATJ30 initiative in a disciplined way, sequencing capital based on customer demand, project financeability, and policy support. As a reminder, we are currently pursuing non-dilutive project-level financing for the project. We do not have to choose between becoming a cash-generating low carbon fuels and carbon management business and building future ATJ projects. The Gevo North Dakota site and its near-term cash generation are expected to support ATJ in the future. We continue to target final investment decision for this initiative by the end of the year. I will now turn the call over to Leke to discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail.
Speaker #3: These are complex multi-year economic commitments and we are making progress advancing these agreements from the current term sheet stage. We remain committed to advancing our ATJ30 initiative in a disciplined way sequencing capital based on customer demand project financeability and policy support.
Speaker #3: And as a reminder, we are currently pursuing non-dilutive, project-level financing for the project. We do not have to choose between becoming a cash-generating low-carbon fuels and carbon management business and building future ATJ projects.
Speaker #3: The Gevo North Dakota site and its near-term cash generation are expected to support ATJ in the future. We continue to target final investment decision for this initiative by the end of the year.
Speaker #3: I will now turn the call over to Lake A to discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Paul. This last quarter was an important one for Gevo. We delivered solid operating performance and completed planned maintenance and debottlenecking activities to expand capacity at our flagship North Dakota site.
Leke Agiri: Thank you, Paul. This last quarter was an important one for Gevo. We delivered solid operating performance and completed planned maintenance and debottlenecking activities to expand capacity at our flagship North Dakota site. During Q2, we reported revenue of $47 million, compared to $43 million in the same quarter last year. This 7% year-over-year growth reflects consistent operations of our low carbon businesses, even with modest impact of planned downtime at our Gevo North Dakota site for maintenance and debottlenecking activities. In comparison to H1 2025, revenue during H1 2026 grew by 23% to $89 million, reflecting a full six months of the benefit of our Red Trail Energy acquisition compared to just five months last year, coupled with continued solid performance in our carbon business.
Leke Agiri: Thank you, Paul. This last quarter was an important one for Gevo. We delivered solid operating performance and completed planned maintenance and debottlenecking activities to expand capacity at our flagship North Dakota site. During Q2, we reported revenue of $47 million, compared to $43 million in the same quarter last year. This 7% year-over-year growth reflects consistent operations of our low carbon businesses, even with modest impact of planned downtime at our Gevo North Dakota site for maintenance and debottlenecking activities. In comparison to H1 2025, revenue during H1 2026 grew by 23% to $89 million, reflecting a full six months of the benefit of our Red Trail Energy acquisition compared to just five months last year, coupled with continued solid performance in our carbon business.
Speaker #2: During the second quarter, we reported revenue of $47 million, compared to $43 million in the same quarter last year. This 7 percent year-over-year growth reflects consistent operations of our low-carbon businesses even with modest impact of planned downtime at our Gevo North Dakota site for maintenance and debottlenecking activities.
Speaker #2: In comparison to the first half of 2025, revenue during the first half of 2026 grew by 23 percent to $89 million, reflecting a full six months of the benefit of our red trail energy acquisition compared to just five months last year, coupled with continued solid performance in our carbon business.
Speaker #2: Gross profit was $20 million in the second quarter. Representing a gross margin of 43 percent compared to gross profit of $19 million and gross margin of 44 percent in the same quarter last year.
Leke Agiri: Gross profit was $20 million in Q2, representing a gross margin of 43%, compared to gross profit of $19 million and gross margin of 44% in the same quarter last year. Relative to revenues alone, we believe that gross profit is a meaningful barometer of a business performance. It captures not only our revenue performance, but also the impact of optimizing carbon, commodities, and incentives that are monetized as part of our business model. During H1 2026, gross profit was $36 million, an increase from $21 million in H1 2025, reflecting a full six months of the benefit of our Red Trail Energy acquisition, coupled with dynamic efforts to optimize 45Z tax credit generation from our assets. Note that we recognize the benefit of 45Z tax credit as a reduction to cost of goods sold.
Leke Agiri: Gross profit was $20 million in Q2, representing a gross margin of 43%, compared to gross profit of $19 million and gross margin of 44% in the same quarter last year. Relative to revenues alone, we believe that gross profit is a meaningful barometer of a business performance. It captures not only our revenue performance, but also the impact of optimizing carbon, commodities, and incentives that are monetized as part of our business model. During H1 2026, gross profit was $36 million, an increase from $21 million in H1 2025, reflecting a full six months of the benefit of our Red Trail Energy acquisition, coupled with dynamic efforts to optimize 45Z tax credit generation from our assets. Note that we recognize the benefit of 45Z tax credit as a reduction to cost of goods sold.
Speaker #2: Relative to revenues alone, we believe that gross profit is a meaningful barometer of a business performance. It captures not only our revenue performance, but also the impact of optimizing carbon, commodities, and incentives that are monetized as part of our business model.
Speaker #2: During the first half of 2026, gross profit was $36 million, an increase from $21 million in the first half of 2025, reflecting a full six months of the benefit of our red trail energy acquisition coupled with dynamic efforts to optimize 45Z tax credit generation from our assets.
Speaker #2: Note that we recognize the benefit of 45Z tax credit as a reduction to cost of goods sold. Operating expenses in the second quarter included a one-time non-cash impairment charge of $176 million.
Leke Agiri: Operating expenses in the second quarter included a one-time non-cash impairment charge of $176 million. This was related to capitalized development and engineering expenses previously incurred, which was primarily associated with prior ATJ60 projects in Lake Preston, South Dakota, and other prior initiatives are no longer in alignment with our strategic priorities. This non-cash impairment charge does not impact our cash position, liquidity, or operating cash flow outlook. It does not trigger additional cash payment obligation or affect the underlying economics of Gevo North Dakota, or ability to execute our development plan there as our core growth platform. Excluding the non-cash impairment charge, operating expenses in the second quarter were up 18% over Q2 2025, which reflects an increase in G&A expenses, primarily due to non-recurring employee severance and accelerated equity award charges.
Leke Agiri: Operating expenses in the second quarter included a one-time non-cash impairment charge of $176 million. This was related to capitalized development and engineering expenses previously incurred, which was primarily associated with prior ATJ60 projects in Lake Preston, South Dakota, and other prior initiatives are no longer in alignment with our strategic priorities. This non-cash impairment charge does not impact our cash position, liquidity, or operating cash flow outlook. It does not trigger additional cash payment obligation or affect the underlying economics of Gevo North Dakota, or ability to execute our development plan there as our core growth platform. Excluding the non-cash impairment charge, operating expenses in the second quarter were up 18% over Q2 2025, which reflects an increase in G&A expenses, primarily due to non-recurring employee severance and accelerated equity award charges.
Speaker #2: This was related to capitalized development and engineering expenses previously incurred, which were primarily associated with prior ATJ60 projects in Lake Preston, South Dakota, and other prior initiatives that are no longer in alignment with our strategic priorities.
Speaker #2: This non-cash impairment charge does not impact our cash position, liquidity, or operating cash flow outlook. It does not trigger any additional cash payment obligations or affect the underlying economics of Gevo North Dakota, or our ability to execute our development plan there as our core growth platform.
Speaker #2: Excluding the non-cash impairment charge, operating expenses in the second quarter were up 18 percent over the second quarter of 2025, which reflects an increase in G&A expenses, primarily due to non-recurring employee severance and accelerated equity award charges.
Speaker #2: On a gap basis, net loss attributable to Gevo was $177 million, or $75 cents per share in the second quarter. On a non-gap basis, adjusted net loss attributable to Gevo was $1 million, or $0.01 per share.
Leke Agiri: On a GAAP basis, net loss attributable to Gevo was $177 million, or $0.75 per share in Q2. On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted net loss attributable to Gevo was $1 million or $0.01 per share. A reconciliation of this amount to the GAAP measure is included in today's earnings release. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA for Q2 was $11 million. Note that Q2 results did not include revenue related to our recently approved CFR pathway, which is expected to show up in Q3. We believe that this quarter's adjusted net loss, coupled with the growing adjusted EBITDA, reflect an ongoing improvement in our underlying and earnings power of our business. This quarter establishes a strong foundation from which we expect meaningful adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flows during H2 of the year.
Leke Agiri: On a GAAP basis, net loss attributable to Gevo was $177 million, or $0.75 per share in Q2. On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted net loss attributable to Gevo was $1 million or $0.01 per share. A reconciliation of this amount to the GAAP measure is included in today's earnings release. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA for Q2 was $11 million. Note that Q2 results did not include revenue related to our recently approved CFR pathway, which is expected to show up in Q3. We believe that this quarter's adjusted net loss, coupled with the growing adjusted EBITDA, reflect an ongoing improvement in our underlying and earnings power of our business. This quarter establishes a strong foundation from which we expect meaningful adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flows during H2 of the year.
Speaker #2: A reconciliation of this amount to the gap measure is included in today's earnings release. Non-gap adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $11 million.
Speaker #2: Note that the second quarter results did not include revenue related to our recently approved CFR pathway, which is expected to show up in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: We believe that this quarter's adjusted net loss coupled with the growing adjusted EBITDA reflect an ongoing improvement in our underlying earnings power of our business.
Speaker #2: This quarter establishes a strong foundation from which we expect meaningful adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flows during the second half of the year. As we look to the full year, we now expect 2026 adjusted EBITDA of more than $60 million, which is more than double our prior outlook of $30 million.
Leke Agiri: As we look to the full year, we now expect 2026 adjusted EBITDA of more than $60 million, which is more than double our prior outlook of $30 million. This is a meaningful acceleration from our H1 2026 operating performance and is supported by four main drivers. First, the recently approved Canada CFR pathway and associated sales. We expect to begin realizing those sales in Q3. Second, our asset are on track to generate more than $70 million of 45Z tax credits that we expect to monetize in 2026, compared to $52 million last year. This is driven by updated policy guidance and our operational efficiencies this year that improve the carbon intensity of our operating assets. Third, continued operational execution of low carbon fuel sales, including revenue growth from our specialty fuels. Fourth, further fiscal discipline.
Leke Agiri: As we look to the full year, we now expect 2026 adjusted EBITDA of more than $60 million, which is more than double our prior outlook of $30 million. This is a meaningful acceleration from our H1 2026 operating performance and is supported by four main drivers. First, the recently approved Canada CFR pathway and associated sales. We expect to begin realizing those sales in Q3. Second, our asset are on track to generate more than $70 million of 45Z tax credits that we expect to monetize in 2026, compared to $52 million last year. This is driven by updated policy guidance and our operational efficiencies this year that improve the carbon intensity of our operating assets. Third, continued operational execution of low carbon fuel sales, including revenue growth from our specialty fuels. Fourth, further fiscal discipline.
Speaker #2: This is a meaningful acceleration from our first-half 2026 operating performance and is supported by four main drivers. First, the recently approved Canada CFR pathway and associated sales.
Speaker #2: We expect to begin realizing those sales in the third quarter. Second, our assets are on track to generate more than $70 million, or $45Z tax credits that we expect to monetize in 2026 compared to $52 million last year.
Speaker #2: This is driven by updated policy guidance and our operational efficiencies this year that improved the carbon intensity of our operating assets. Third, continued operational execution of low-carbon fuel sales, including revenue growth from our specialty fuels. And fourth, further fiscal discipline.
Speaker #2: Of the more than $70 million and $45Z monetization we expect to achieve this year, we have already closed on the sale of $20 million in $45Z credits after the end of the second quarter.
Leke Agiri: Of the more than $70 million in 45Z monetization we expect to achieve this year, we have already closed on the sale of $20 million in 45Z credits after the end of Q2. With our current engagement with seasoned tax credit buyers, we expect to monetize the remaining approximately $50 million of credits and receive the associate proceeds by year-end. A reminder that our 45Z tax credit incentives are generated ratably each quarter based on the volume and carbon intensity of our low carbon ethanol and RNG production. These credits show up as a reduction in our cost of goods sold on our income statement and are a benefit to our adjusted EBITDA. Note that the cash proceeds from 45Z can lag behind the quarter in which the credit is generated. This results in some quarter-to-quarter variability in our cash flow from operations.
Leke Agiri: Of the more than $70 million in 45Z monetization we expect to achieve this year, we have already closed on the sale of $20 million in 45Z credits after the end of Q2. With our current engagement with seasoned tax credit buyers, we expect to monetize the remaining approximately $50 million of credits and receive the associate proceeds by year-end. A reminder that our 45Z tax credit incentives are generated ratably each quarter based on the volume and carbon intensity of our low carbon ethanol and RNG production. These credits show up as a reduction in our cost of goods sold on our income statement and are a benefit to our adjusted EBITDA. Note that the cash proceeds from 45Z can lag behind the quarter in which the credit is generated. This results in some quarter-to-quarter variability in our cash flow from operations.
Speaker #2: With our current engagement with seasoned tax credit buyers, we expect to monetize the remaining approximately $50 million of credits and receive the associated proceeds by year-end.
Speaker #2: A reminder that our 45Z tax credit incentives are generated ratably each quarter, based on the volume and carbon intensity of our low-carbon ethanol and RNG production.
Speaker #2: This credit show up as a reduction in our cost of goods sold on our income statement and are a benefit to our adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #2: Note that the cash proceeds from 45Z can lag behind the quarter in which the credit is generated. This results in some quarter-to-quarter variability in our cash flow from operations, while we continue to expect operating cash flow to be neutral to positive for full year 2026, we also expect meaningful positive operating cash flow in the second half of the year.
Leke Agiri: While we continue to expect operating cash flow to be neutral to positive for full year 2026, we also expect meaningful positive operating cash flow in H2 of the year. This further demonstrates the underlying cash generating power of our businesses continue to strengthen. Turning to liquidity, we ended the quarter with cash equivalent, and restricted cash of $58 million. Importantly, this does not include approximately $16 million of cash proceeds from the monetization of 45Z credits that we have collected since the end of Q2. We are also excited about our performance in 2027 and beyond. Our debottlenecking project remains on track and on budget.
Leke Agiri: While we continue to expect operating cash flow to be neutral to positive for full year 2026, we also expect meaningful positive operating cash flow in H2 of the year. This further demonstrates the underlying cash generating power of our businesses continue to strengthen. Turning to liquidity, we ended the quarter with cash equivalent, and restricted cash of $58 million. Importantly, this does not include approximately $16 million of cash proceeds from the monetization of 45Z credits that we have collected since the end of Q2. We are also excited about our performance in 2027 and beyond. Our debottlenecking project remains on track and on budget.
Speaker #2: This further demonstrates the underlying cash generating power of our business's continued to strengthen. Turning to liquidity, we handled the quarter with cash, cash equivalent, and restricted cash of $58 million.
Speaker #2: Importantly, this does not include approximately $16 million of cash proceeds from the monetization of 45Z credits that we have collected since the end of the second quarter.
Speaker #2: We're also excited about our performance in 2027 and beyond, or the bottlenecking project remains on track and on budget. We expect 2027 adjusted EBITDA to be broadly in line with our current 2026 full year target, after we factor in some non-recurring revenue this year and the bottleneck in production uplifts started at the end of this year.
Leke Agiri: We expect 2027 adjusted EBITDA to be broadly in line with our current 2026 full year target after we factor in some non-recurring revenue this year and the debottlenecking production uplifts starting at the end of this year. Our expansion of Gevo North Dakota to double its production capacity is advancing, with financing on track for completion in H2 of 2026. This is consistent with our previously announced arrangement with our financing partner, Ara Energy. As Paul mentioned earlier, we also continue to push forward on securing bankable offtake contracts to enable securing accretive financing of our ATJ30 project. We are engaged with various project-level capital providers and remain focused on moving forward to FID by year-end. In closing, we are seeing continued improvement in adjusted EBITDA and cash flow generation, supported by the strong underlying fundamentals of our business.
Leke Agiri: We expect 2027 adjusted EBITDA to be broadly in line with our current 2026 full year target after we factor in some non-recurring revenue this year and the debottlenecking production uplifts starting at the end of this year. Our expansion of Gevo North Dakota to double its production capacity is advancing, with financing on track for completion in H2 of 2026. This is consistent with our previously announced arrangement with our financing partner, Ara Energy. As Paul mentioned earlier, we also continue to push forward on securing bankable offtake contracts to enable securing accretive financing of our ATJ30 project. We are engaged with various project-level capital providers and remain focused on moving forward to FID by year-end. In closing, we are seeing continued improvement in adjusted EBITDA and cash flow generation, supported by the strong underlying fundamentals of our business.
Speaker #2: Our expansion of Gevo North Dakota to double its production capacity is advancing, with financing on track for completion in the second half of 2026.
Speaker #2: This is consistent with our previously announced arrangement, where our financing partner, Arrow Energy. And as Paul mentioned earlier, we also continue to push forward on securing bankable offtake contracts to enable securing accredited financing of our ATJ30 project.
Speaker #2: We are engaged with various project-level capital providers and remain focused on moving forward to FID by year-end. In closing, we are seeing continued improvement in adjusted EBITDA and cash flow generation, supported by the strong underlying fundamentals of our business.
Speaker #2: We are confident in our ability to sustain our positive momentum as our near-term growth project at Gevo North Dakota continue to mature on schedule.
Leke Agiri: We are confident in our ability to sustain our positive momentum as our near-term growth projects at Gevo North Dakota continue to mature on schedule. Today's result anchors Gevo's growth trajectory, further strengthening our capacity to execute our long-term objectives while delivering sustainable value to our shareholders. With that, I will turn the call back to Paul.
Leke Agiri: We are confident in our ability to sustain our positive momentum as our near-term growth projects at Gevo North Dakota continue to mature on schedule. Today's result anchors Gevo's growth trajectory, further strengthening our capacity to execute our long-term objectives while delivering sustainable value to our shareholders. With that, I will turn the call back to Paul.
Speaker #2: Today's results anchors Gevo's growth trajectory further strengthening our capacity to execute our long-term objectives while delivering sustainable value to our shareholders. With that, I would turn the call back to Paul.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Lakey. We strengthened our financial position, doubled our expected 2026 adjusted EBITDA outlook, and are starting to show that Gevo North Dakota can serve as a scalable blueprint for profitable growth.
Paul Bloom: Thanks, Leke. We strengthened our financial position, doubled our expected 2026 adjusted EBITDA outlook, are starting to show that Gevo North Dakota can serve as a scalable blueprint for profitable growth. We have talked before about the potential for a capital-light licensing or franchise-type model, that opportunity is becoming more tangible as we demonstrate how our technology, operating model, and carbon capabilities can be deployed to meet customer demand and capture value across markets. We will have more to share as these initiatives advance. For now, I want to thank our employees, partners, customers, and shareholders for their continued support. We are building Gevo with discipline, focus, and a clear path to creating long-term value. With that, we will open the call for questions.
Paul Bloom: Thanks, Leke. We strengthened our financial position, doubled our expected 2026 adjusted EBITDA outlook, are starting to show that Gevo North Dakota can serve as a scalable blueprint for profitable growth. We have talked before about the potential for a capital-light licensing or franchise-type model, that opportunity is becoming more tangible as we demonstrate how our technology, operating model, and carbon capabilities can be deployed to meet customer demand and capture value across markets. We will have more to share as these initiatives advance. For now, I want to thank our employees, partners, customers, and shareholders for their continued support. We are building Gevo with discipline, focus, and a clear path to creating long-term value. With that, we will open the call for questions.
Speaker #1: We have talked before about the potential for a capitalized licensing or franchise-type model, and that opportunity is becoming more tangible as we demonstrate how our technology, operating model, and carbon capabilities can be deployed to meet customer demand and capture value across markets.
Speaker #1: We'll have more to share as these initiatives advance. For now, I want to thank our employees, partners, customers, and shareholders for their continued support.
Speaker #1: We are building Gevo with discipline, focus, and a clear path to creating long-term value. With that, we'll open the call for questions.
Speaker #3: All right. Thank you very much. At this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad.
Operator 2: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. We will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. All right. Looks like our first question today comes from the line of Jeff Grampp with Northland. Jeff, please go ahead.
Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. We will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. All right. Looks like our first question today comes from the line of Jeff Grampp with Northland. Jeff, please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Once again, star one. And we will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. All right, looks like our first question today comes from the line of Jeff Gramp with North.
Speaker #3: Jeff, please go ahead.
Jeff Grampp: Afternoon, guys. Thanks for the time.
Jeff Grampp: Afternoon, guys. Thanks for the time.
Speaker #4: Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for the time.
Paul Bloom: Hey, Jeff, how are you?
Paul Bloom: Hey, Jeff, how are you?
Jeff Grampp: Paul. Good, thanks. I wanted to dive into the $60 million EBITDA target that you guys have refreshed here lately and just wanted to understand some of the moving parts with respect to the approval to reach the Canadian markets. It sounded like some of that $60 million is a little bit of a one-time bump related to some volumes prior to getting that approval, like a retroactive credit, if you will. Can you help us understand how much of a windfall that might be, just to kind of level set, I guess, what the true earnings power of the business is in 2026?
Jeff Grampp: Paul. Good, thanks. I wanted to dive into the $60 million EBITDA target that you guys have refreshed here lately and just wanted to understand some of the moving parts with respect to the approval to reach the Canadian markets. It sounded like some of that $60 million is a little bit of a one-time bump related to some volumes prior to getting that approval, like a retroactive credit, if you will. Can you help us understand how much of a windfall that might be, just to kind of level set, I guess, what the true earnings power of the business is in 2026?
Speaker #5: Hey, Jeff. How are you? Good.
Speaker #4: Thanks. I wanted to dive into the $60 million EBITDA target that you guys have refreshed here lately. I just wanted to understand some of the moving parts with respect to the approval to reach the Canadian markets.
Speaker #4: It sounded like some of that $60 million is a little bit of a one-time bump related to some volumes prior to getting that approval, like a retroactive credit, if you will.
Speaker #4: Can you help us understand how much of a windfall that might be, just to kind of level set, I guess, kind of what the true earnings power of the business is in '26?
Paul Bloom: Yeah, sure thing. That is a perfect question, right? Because we are really excited that the carbon business itself has grown now to what we think is a run rate of about $30 million a year going forward, right? So that is going to be the part that goes forward into 2026. When we think about the CFR credits, this is a big part of what we wanted to get done because we had made a bet that we were going to be able to capture the value from these CFR credits once we got the approval. We had sold a lot of fuel in 2025 and the H1 of 2026 here. So we haven't been able to monetize those credits yet, but about 40%, a little more than 40%, are actually credits that were realized this year.
Paul Bloom: Yeah, sure thing. That is a perfect question, right? Because we are really excited that the carbon business itself has grown now to what we think is a run rate of about $30 million a year going forward, right? So that is going to be the part that goes forward into 2026. When we think about the CFR credits, this is a big part of what we wanted to get done because we had made a bet that we were going to be able to capture the value from these CFR credits once we got the approval. We had sold a lot of fuel in 2025 and the H1 of 2026 here. So we haven't been able to monetize those credits yet, but about 40%, a little more than 40%, are actually credits that were realized this year.
Speaker #5: Yeah, sure thing. And that's a perfect question, right? Because we're really excited that the carbon business itself, right, has grown now to what we think is a run rate of about $30 million a year on a going-forward basis, right?
Speaker #5: So that's going to be the part that goes forward into 2026. When we think about the CFR credits, this is a big part of what we wanted to get done because we had made a bet that we were going to be able to capture the value from these CFR credits once we got the approval.
Speaker #5: And we had sold a lot of fuel in 2025 and the first half of 2026 here, so we haven't been able to monetize those credits yet.
Speaker #5: But about 40%, a little more than 40%, are actually credits that were realized this year. So when we think about that, there's a big component of those bank credits that really are in a run rate for 2026.
Paul Bloom: When we think about that, there is a big component of those bank credits that really are in a run rate for 2026. So that is a big component going forward. I would say that when you think about the $60 million that we are talking about, going forward, remember, we are going to be completing the bottlenecking by the end of the year. So we believe that this is really the upside of that, minus maybe these one-time events. We are really kind of flattish going into 2027. So we think most of the $60 million is going to be a repeatable run rate on the forward basis. I don't know, Leke, if you got any other comments on that.
Paul Bloom: When we think about that, there is a big component of those bank credits that really are in a run rate for 2026. So that is a big component going forward. I would say that when you think about the $60 million that we are talking about, going forward, remember, we are going to be completing the bottlenecking by the end of the year. So we believe that this is really the upside of that, minus maybe these one-time events. We are really kind of flattish going into 2027. So we think most of the $60 million is going to be a repeatable run rate on the forward basis. I don't know, Leke, if you got any other comments on that.
Speaker #5: So that is a big component going forward. But I would say that when you think about the $60 million that we're talking about, going forward, remember, we're going to be completing the bottlenecking by the end of the year.
Speaker #5: So we believe that this is really the upside of that, minus maybe these one-time events. We're really kind of flattish going in to 2027.
Speaker #5: So we think most of this $60 million is going to be a repeatable run rate on the forward basis. I don't know, Lakey, if you get any other comments on that.
Leke Agiri: Thanks, Paul. Generally agree with the description there. The way to think about it is what Paul just mentioned. As we complete the bottlenecking, there is going to be uplift in terms of production volume. That increases just our revenue profile. Then when we subtract out the non-recurring basis from 2026, effectively, we end up at that flattish projection as to where we are for 2026.
Leke Agiri: Thanks, Paul. Generally agree with the description there. The way to think about it is what Paul just mentioned. As we complete the bottlenecking, there is going to be uplift in terms of production volume. That increases just our revenue profile. Then when we subtract out the non-recurring basis from 2026, effectively, we end up at that flattish projection as to where we are for 2026.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Paul. I generally agree with the description there. So, the way to think about it is, as Paul just mentioned, as we complete the bottlenecking, there’s going to be uplift in terms of production volume.
Speaker #2: That just increases our revenue profile. And then, when we subtract out the non-recurring basis from 2026, effectively we end up at that flattish projection for where we are in 2026.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. Remember, this is like we are really thinking about how are we going to grow this EBITDA nicely. It is also about the increase in the 45Z tax credits that we have got, right? So we are kind of putting all of these different levers together to make sure that we can have this durable business going forward that exceeds that $60, really.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. Remember, this is like we are really thinking about how are we going to grow this EBITDA nicely. It is also about the increase in the 45Z tax credits that we have got, right? So we are kind of putting all of these different levers together to make sure that we can have this durable business going forward that exceeds that $60, really.
Speaker #5: Yeah. And remember, this is like we're really thinking about how are we going to grow this EBITDA nicely? It's also about the increase in the 45Z tax credits that we've got, right?
Speaker #5: So we're kind of putting all of these different levers together to make sure that we can have this durable business going forward that hits that exceeds that 60, really.
Jeff Grampp: Got it. Thanks for the details. For my follow-up, just sticking in the Canadian market, do you guys have an estimate? I know this changes as market prices and dynamics change, round numbers, how much of your ethanol do you expect to send to Canada in H2 of this year? Seeing some of the pricing points, it seems like that's the most economic market for you, perhaps there's some other factors at play that might, I don't know, make sense to send to other markets, or if there's any constraints to how much you can send to Canada. Thanks.
Jeff Grampp: Got it. Thanks for the details. For my follow-up, just sticking in the Canadian market, do you guys have an estimate? I know this changes as market prices and dynamics change, round numbers, how much of your ethanol do you expect to send to Canada in H2 of this year? Seeing some of the pricing points, it seems like that's the most economic market for you, perhaps there's some other factors at play that might, I don't know, make sense to send to other markets, or if there's any constraints to how much you can send to Canada. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Got it. Thanks for the details. And for my follow-up, just sticking in the Canadian market, what percent do you guys have like an estimate?
Speaker #4: I know this changes as market prices and dynamics change, but round numbers, how much of your ethanol do you expect to send to Canada in the second half of this year?
Speaker #4: I mean, seeing some of the pricing points, it seems like that's the most economic market for you, but perhaps there's some other factors at play that might, I don't know, make sense to send to other markets or if there's any constraints to how much you can send to Canada.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. No, again, great question. This is the whole point of our business on carbon arbitrage, right? We want to make sure that we've got all the levers that we can pull to maximize the returns for Gevo and our shareholders. Having this new lever that we can send, as Canada is a very strong market, over a 1 billion-gallon opportunity for us. Obviously, we're a lot smaller than that, we want to continue to maximize the volumes to where we're going to get the highest returns. Really no limitations there on how much we can send. We're going to continue to make sure that we've got the right certifications and everything in place to do that. We have to look at the other markets. We have to take a look at how is the voluntary market developing.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. No, again, great question. This is the whole point of our business on carbon arbitrage, right? We want to make sure that we've got all the levers that we can pull to maximize the returns for Gevo and our shareholders. Having this new lever that we can send, as Canada is a very strong market, over a 1 billion-gallon opportunity for us. Obviously, we're a lot smaller than that, we want to continue to maximize the volumes to where we're going to get the highest returns. Really no limitations there on how much we can send. We're going to continue to make sure that we've got the right certifications and everything in place to do that. We have to look at the other markets. We have to take a look at how is the voluntary market developing.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, no, again, great question. And this is the whole point of our business on carbon arbitrage, right? So we want to make sure that we've got all the levers that we can pull to maximize the returns for Gevo and our shareholders.
Speaker #5: And so having this new lever that we can send is Canada is a very strong market. opportunity for us, obviously, we're a lot smaller than that.
Speaker #5: So we want to continue to maximize the volumes to where we're going to get the highest returns. So really no limitations there on how much we can send.
Speaker #5: We're going to continue to make sure that we've got the right certifications and everything in place to do that. But then we have to look at the other markets.
Speaker #5: We have to take a look at how's the voluntary market developing. That's something that we talked about because we've got more interest in that side.
Paul Bloom: That's something that we talked about because we've got more interest in that side. You saw that in our business update, we talked about Nasdaq as a second year that they bought carbon from us on a substantial size buy. We're always weighing how do we place the carbon in either a compliance market or a voluntary market? What's going to give us the total return that we're looking for? How do we diversify our business, too? We don't want all of our eggs in one basket. I think that's the thing that we've learned about being in the fuels and carbon markets, that we want a good mix there and be able to play these off of each other.
Paul Bloom: That's something that we talked about because we've got more interest in that side. You saw that in our business update, we talked about Nasdaq as a second year that they bought carbon from us on a substantial size buy. We're always weighing how do we place the carbon in either a compliance market or a voluntary market? What's going to give us the total return that we're looking for? How do we diversify our business, too? We don't want all of our eggs in one basket. I think that's the thing that we've learned about being in the fuels and carbon markets, that we want a good mix there and be able to play these off of each other.
Speaker #5: You saw that in our business update, we talked about NASDAQ as a second year that they've bought carbon from us on a substantial size buy.
Speaker #5: So we're always weighing how do we place the carbon in either a compliance market or a voluntary market? What's going to give us the total return that we're looking for?
Speaker #5: How do we diversify our business too? Because we don't want all our eggs in one basket. I think that's the thing that we've learned about being in the fuels and carbon markets that we want a good mix there and be able to play these off of each other.
Jeff Grampp: That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the details. I'll turn it back.
Jeff Grampp: That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the details. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #4: That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the details. I'll turn it back.
Operator 2: All right. Thank you, Jeff. Our next question comes from the line of Ameet Dalal with H.C. Wainwright. Ameet, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Jeff. Our next question comes from the line of Ameet Dalal with H.C. Wainwright. Ameet, please go ahead.
Speaker #3: All right. Thank you, Jeff. And our next question comes from the line of Amit Dal with HC Wainwright. Amit, please go ahead.
Ameet Dalal: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions.
Amit Dayal: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on all the progress. Hi, Paul. On the ethanol expansion, Paul, can you remind us what the capex requirements are going to be, please, on this project?
Paul Bloom: Hi.
Paul Bloom: Hi.
Ameet Dalal: Congrats on all the progress. Hi, Paul. On the ethanol expansion, Paul, can you remind us what the CapEx requirements are going to be, please, on this project?
Amit Dayal: Congrats on all the progress. Hi, Paul. On the ethanol expansion, Paul, can you remind us what the CapEx requirements are going to be, please, on this project?
Paul Bloom: Yeah. We haven't disclosed the capital requirements on the ethanol expansion. If you flip back to the debottlenecking, we said we were deploying about $24 million of capital in that range. About half of that was going to operational reliability. The other half was going to the actual debottlenecking to improve the output from 67 million gallons to 75 million gallons. We'll have more details as we get further along here, but it's really about getting this done and getting our deal done with Ara Energy. We're feeling really good about that and expect to get this done within the next few months because we want to then move directly into the execution. As we mentioned, we're moving quickly on this and looking at permitting. We're looking at a lot of the other engineering things. All that's well underway.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. We haven't disclosed the capital requirements on the ethanol expansion. If you flip back to the debottlenecking, we said we were deploying about $24 million of capital in that range. About half of that was going to operational reliability. The other half was going to the actual debottlenecking to improve the output from 67 million gallons to 75 million gallons. We'll have more details as we get further along here, but it's really about getting this done and getting our deal done with Ara Energy. We're feeling really good about that and expect to get this done within the next few months because we want to then move directly into the execution. As we mentioned, we're moving quickly on this and looking at permitting. We're looking at a lot of the other engineering things. All that's well underway.
Speaker #5: Yeah. So we have a disclosed capital requirements on the ethanol expansion. If you flip back to the bottlenecking, we said we were deploying about 24 million dollars of capital.
Speaker #5: In that range, about half of that was going to operational reliability. The other half was going to the actual bottlenecking to improve the output from 67 million gallons to 75 million gallons.
Speaker #5: So we'll have more details as we get further along here, but it's really about getting this done and getting our deal done with Aura Energy.
Speaker #5: We're feeling really good about that and expect to get this done within the next few months, because we want to then move directly into execution, as we mentioned.
Speaker #5: We're moving quickly on this, and looking at permitting. We're looking at a lot of the other engineering things; all that's well underway. Because it essentially doubles what we're already doing today at Gevo North Dakota.
Paul Bloom: Because it essentially doubles what we're already doing today at Gevo North Dakota. Because the carbon business is working, because we're able to monetize and kind of firing on all cylinders, monetizing tax credits. This is the most accretive project that we have in the hopper. We want to get this to the finish line.
Paul Bloom: Because it essentially doubles what we're already doing today at Gevo North Dakota. Because the carbon business is working, because we're able to monetize and kind of firing on all cylinders, monetizing tax credits. This is the most accretive project that we have in the hopper. We want to get this to the finish line.
Speaker #5: And because the carbon business is working, because we're able to monetize and kind of firing on all cylinders, monetizing tax credits, this is the most accretive project that we have in the hopper.
Speaker #5: We want to get this to the finish line.
Ameet Dalal: Understood. We'll have maybe more color on this in the Q3 earnings call?
Amit Dayal: Understood. We'll have maybe more color on this in the Q3 earnings call?
Speaker #6: Understood. So we'll have maybe more color on this in the 3Q earnings call.
Paul Bloom: Most likely. I think the biggest thing, Greg, you can jump in here, too. Greg Hanselman is on the line with us. Greg, you want to talk about what your expectations are on-
Paul Bloom: Most likely. I think the biggest thing, Greg, you can jump in here, too. Greg Hanselman is on the line with us. Greg, you want to talk about what your expectations are on-
Speaker #5: Most likely. I mean, I think the biggest thing and Greg, you can jump in here too. So Greg Hanselman's on the line with us.
Speaker #5: So Greg, I mean, you want to talk about what your expectations are on capital?
Greg Hanselman: Yeah
Paul Bloom: capital?
Paul Bloom: capital?
Greg Hanselman: We don't know the exact timing. The engineering team is working hard on designing an integrated plant. This isn't like two separate facilities. We really want to optimize the CapEx and the OpEx to drive the best synergies for the long term. We don't have all those answers yet, we're working hard to solidify that so we have the answer when the time is right and we bring that together later in H2.
Greg Hanselman: We don't know the exact timing. The engineering team is working hard on designing an integrated plant. This isn't like two separate facilities. We really want to optimize the CapEx and the OpEx to drive the best synergies for the long term. We don't have all those answers yet, we're working hard to solidify that so we have the answer when the time is right and we bring that together later in H2.
Speaker #7: Yeah. We don't know the exact timing, but the engineering team is working hard on designing an integrated plant. This isn't like two separate facilities.
Speaker #7: We really want to optimize the capex and the opex to drive the best synergies for the long term. And we don't have all those answers yet, but we're working hard to solidify that.
Speaker #7: So we have the answer when the time is right and we bring that together. Later in each H2.
Paul Bloom: Very much like what we're doing on ATJ, working through an FEL2, FEL3. We're refining these estimates. Today, we're not there yet on refining that estimate to where we want to be, but we'll keep moving that forward so we have a much finer point on this when we're able to communicate that.
Paul Bloom: Very much like what we're doing on ATJ, working through an FEL2, FEL3. We're refining these estimates. Today, we're not there yet on refining that estimate to where we want to be, but we'll keep moving that forward so we have a much finer point on this when we're able to communicate that.
Speaker #5: Yeah. And very much like what we're doing on ATJ, working through an FEL2, FEL3. We're refining these estimates. So today, we're not there yet on refining that estimate to where we want to be, but we'll keep moving that forward so we have a much finer point on this when we're able to communicate that.
Ameet Dalal: Okay. Understood now. Thank you for that. For ATJ30, would you potentially go with Ara or are you looking at other financing options and partners?
Amit Dayal: Okay. Understood now. Thank you for that. For ATJ30, would you potentially go with Ara or are you looking at other financing options and partners?
Speaker #6: Okay. Understood. No. Thank you for that. So for ATJ 30, will you potentially go with Aura or are you looking at other financing options and partners?
Paul Bloom: I'll let Leke chime in here on some of the updates we've got on financing. This has been something that we've been working on for a long time. The key thing again is that we've completed the FEL3 estimates like we talked about. We're working on these financiable offtakes. Really, when we think about financing, you need to make sure you've got a bankable project. The discipline that we're putting in this is making sure that we not only have the offtakes, but we've got the right customers who are going to be there because it's going to take us a few years to build this plant. Then have long-term, very complex, multi-year financial arrangements that are going to support this project.
Paul Bloom: I'll let Leke chime in here on some of the updates we've got on financing. This has been something that we've been working on for a long time. The key thing again is that we've completed the FEL3 estimates like we talked about. We're working on these financiable offtakes. Really, when we think about financing, you need to make sure you've got a bankable project. The discipline that we're putting in this is making sure that we not only have the offtakes, but we've got the right customers who are going to be there because it's going to take us a few years to build this plant. Then have long-term, very complex, multi-year financial arrangements that are going to support this project.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I'll let Lake A chime in here on some of the updates we've got on financing. But this has been something that we've been working on for a long time.
Speaker #5: So the key thing, again, is that we've completed the FEL3 estimates like we talked about. We're working on these financeable offtakes. And really, when we think about financing, you need to make sure you've got a bankable project.
Speaker #5: And the discipline that we're putting in this is making sure that we not only have the offtakes, but we've got the right customers. The right customers who are going to be there because it's going to take us a few years to build this plant.
Speaker #5: And then have long-term, very complex, multi-year financial arrangements that are going to support this project. So it's a mix of making sure that we've got the offtakes and that we really got the right set of customers who see us.
Paul Bloom: It's a mix of making sure that we've got the offtakes and that we've really got the right set of customers who see us. Then the financing at that point, it kind of falls into place because you can start to look at what's your risk profile on the overall project. We are working through that de-risking today. Leke, I don't know if you want to make comments on the other-
Paul Bloom: It's a mix of making sure that we've got the offtakes and that we've really got the right set of customers who see us. Then the financing at that point, it kind of falls into place because you can start to look at what's your risk profile on the overall project. We are working through that de-risking today. Leke, I don't know if you want to make comments on the other-
Speaker #5: And then the financing at that point kind of falls into place, because then you can start to look at what your risk profile is on the overall project.
Speaker #5: But we are working through that de-risking today. Like, I don't know if you want to make comments on the other.
Leke Agiri: Yeah
Paul Bloom: groups we're working with.
Paul Bloom: groups we're working with.
Speaker #7: Yeah. I think just to probably sum it up, in terms of cap raise or capital raise profile, we're engaged with multiple project-level lenders and equity providers.
Leke Agiri: I think just to probably sum it up, in terms of cap raise or capital raise profile, we're engaged with multiple project-level lenders and equity providers. Just not Ara at this point. Also just to express really the excitement that we have is as we look to the development of ATJ30, what's also very important is to highlight our existing operations, the cash flows that we're generating now. Those actually enable the ability for us to fund ATJ30 from a development perspective, but also fund our portion of the construction capital as well. That's the really exciting part. I think the engagement with the project-level capital is on the right track. As Paul mentioned, as we secure the bankable offtakes with the right partners, with the right economics, the puzzle comes together in terms of just moving forward with the project at the right time.
Leke Agiri: I think just to probably sum it up, in terms of cap raise or capital raise profile, we're engaged with multiple project-level lenders and equity providers. Just not Ara at this point. Also just to express really the excitement that we have is as we look to the development of ATJ30, what's also very important is to highlight our existing operations, the cash flows that we're generating now. Those actually enable the ability for us to fund ATJ30 from a development perspective, but also fund our portion of the construction capital as well. That's the really exciting part. I think the engagement with the project-level capital is on the right track. As Paul mentioned, as we secure the bankable offtakes with the right partners, with the right economics, the puzzle comes together in terms of just moving forward with the project at the right time.
Speaker #7: So just not Aura at this point. But also just to express really the excitement that we have is as we look to the development of ATJ 30, what's also very important is to highlight our existing operations, the cash flows that we're generating now, those actually enable the ability for us to fund ATJ 30 from a development perspective, but also fund our portion of the construction capital as well.
Speaker #7: So that's the really exciting part. I think the engagement with the project-level capital is on the right track. And as Paul mentioned, as we secure the bankable offtakes with the right partners, with the right economics, then the puzzle comes together in terms of just moving forward with the project at the right time.
Paul Bloom: Yeah, just to maybe close the loop with Ara, we're really laser-focused on the expansion today, right? That's what we need to get done and, like Greg was saying, move that forward. 2028 will be here before you know it. We've got a full court press on making sure that we can get that project executed.
Paul Bloom: Yeah, just to maybe close the loop with Ara, we're really laser-focused on the expansion today, right? That's what we need to get done and, like Greg was saying, move that forward. 2028 will be here before you know it. We've got a full court press on making sure that we can get that project executed.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Just to maybe close the loop with Aura, we're really laser focused on the expansion today, right? That's what we need to get done.
Speaker #5: And like Greg was saying, move that forward so we can get 2028, we'll be here before you know it. So we've got a full-court press on making sure that we can get that project executed.
Ameet Dalal: Thank you guys for the color. Just last one from me, maybe just on Verity. Any updates on progress with commercialization, et cetera, for that offering?
Amit Dayal: Thank you guys for the color. Just last one from me, maybe just on Verity. Any updates on progress with commercialization, et cetera, for that offering?
Speaker #6: Thank you, guys, for the color. Just last one from me maybe, just on Verity, any updates on progress with commercialization, etc. for that offering?
Paul Bloom: Yeah, great question. Verity, one of my favorite topics. With Verity, I think the thing we're really learning more than anything else is as we get to this run rate of $30 million on our carbon business, Verity is just a key component of how we put all that together. It goes back to the original reasons of why did we build this platform, and it was because we can take one source of data from multiple areas, whether that comes from the farm inputs, whether that's from the energy inputs, carbon capture, tie it all together, and then use that tool to basically be able to substantiate and track our claims and carbon accounting into multiple markets, whether that's Canadian CFR, whether that's 45Z, whether that's a voluntary market.
Paul Bloom: Yeah, great question. Verity, one of my favorite topics. With Verity, I think the thing we're really learning more than anything else is as we get to this run rate of $30 million on our carbon business, Verity is just a key component of how we put all that together. It goes back to the original reasons of why did we build this platform, and it was because we can take one source of data from multiple areas, whether that comes from the farm inputs, whether that's from the energy inputs, carbon capture, tie it all together, and then use that tool to basically be able to substantiate and track our claims and carbon accounting into multiple markets, whether that's Canadian CFR, whether that's 45Z, whether that's a voluntary market.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Great question. Verity. My favorite topics. So with Verity, I think the thing we're really learning more than anything else is as we get to this run rate of 30 million on our carbon business, Verity is just a key component of how we put all that together.
Speaker #5: It goes back to the original reasons of why did we build this platform. And it was because we can take one source of data from multiple areas, whether that comes from the farm inputs, whether that's from the energy inputs, carbon capture, tie it all together and then use that tool to basically be able to substantiate and track our claims and carbon accounting into multiple markets, whether that's Canadian CFR, whether that's 45Z, whether that's a voluntary market.
Paul Bloom: It's becoming, I would say, a much bigger part of what we see as a key component of the carbon business for us. The other thing with that is that we're just getting to this point now in the development phase, but not only can we track, but we can optimize. You start to think about now how do we use Verity as an optimization tool. I think internally, we're very optimistic about how Verity's contributing value to the carbon business results that you're seeing today. Externally, we've got a number of customers. I would say a little bit slower on the uptake of external development, mostly because we still don't have good clarity on things like 45Z ag benefits, right?
Paul Bloom: It's becoming, I would say, a much bigger part of what we see as a key component of the carbon business for us. The other thing with that is that we're just getting to this point now in the development phase, but not only can we track, but we can optimize. You start to think about now how do we use Verity as an optimization tool. I think internally, we're very optimistic about how Verity's contributing value to the carbon business results that you're seeing today. Externally, we've got a number of customers. I would say a little bit slower on the uptake of external development, mostly because we still don't have good clarity on things like 45Z ag benefits, right?
Speaker #5: So it's becoming, I would say, a much bigger part of what we see as a key component of the carbon business for us. The other thing with that is that we're just getting to this point now in the development phase, but not only can we track, but we can optimize.
Speaker #5: So you start to think about now how do we use Verity as an optimization tool? So I think internally, we're very optimistic about how Verity is contributing value to the carbon business results that you're seeing today.
Speaker #5: Externally, we've got a number of customers. I would say it's been a little bit slower on the uptake of external development, mostly because we still don't have good clarity on things like 45Z ag benefits, right?
Paul Bloom: Those are kind of some of the big things that we've looked at, and we're still trying to figure out how much are we going to be able to pull in from a compliance-type tool, right? As we look at this, not everybody's running a carbon business. I think we're actually the only ones running a carbon business like us. I think as this catches on, there'll be more demand for Verity out there, but we still have the eight customers that we've had in the past and continue to develop that portfolio. The external development's definitely been a little slower on the uptake.
Paul Bloom: Those are kind of some of the big things that we've looked at, and we're still trying to figure out how much are we going to be able to pull in from a compliance-type tool, right? As we look at this, not everybody's running a carbon business. I think we're actually the only ones running a carbon business like us. I think as this catches on, there'll be more demand for Verity out there, but we still have the eight customers that we've had in the past and continue to develop that portfolio. The external development's definitely been a little slower on the uptake.
Speaker #5: Those are kind of some of the big things that we've looked at. And we're still trying to figure out how much are we going to be able to pull in from a compliance-type tool, right?
Speaker #5: And as we look at this, not everybody's running a carbon business. I think we're actually the only ones running a carbon business like us.
Speaker #5: So I think as this catches on, there'll be more demand for Verity out there, but we still have the eight customers that we've had in the past and continue to develop that portfolio.
Speaker #5: But the external development's definitely been a little slower on the uptake.
Ameet Dalal: Understood. No, I appreciate all the color, guys. Thank you so much. I'll step back in queue.
Amit Dayal: Understood. No, I appreciate all the color, guys. Thank you so much. I'll step back in queue.
Speaker #6: Understood. I appreciate all the colleagues. Thank you so much. I'll step back and queue.
Operator 2: All right. Thank you, Ameet. Our next question comes from the line of Derrick Whitfield with Texas Capital. Derrick, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Ameet. Our next question comes from the line of Derrick Whitfield with Texas Capital. Derrick, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you, Amit. And our next question comes from the line of Derek Whitfield with Texas Capital. Derek, please go ahead.
Derrick Whitfield: Thanks. Good afternoon, congrats on the quarter and the updated outlook.
Derrick Whitfield: Thanks. Good afternoon, congrats on the quarter and the updated outlook.
Speaker #4: Thanks. Good afternoon and congrats on the quarter and the updated outlook.
Paul Bloom: Well, thanks, Derrick.
Paul Bloom: Well, thanks, Derrick.
Speaker #5: Well, thanks, Derek.
Derrick Whitfield: Got two questions for you guys, both on ethanol. With respect to the ethanol expansion to 150, could you speak to the expected capital structure for the expansion? Second, staying on the ethanol facility, it is clear that you guys operate a very low CI plant based on efficiency and CCUS. Given that you operate in a more progressive region for CSA practices, how are you thinking about the benefit of expected CSA policy on your 45Z credits?
Derrick Whitfield: Got two questions for you guys, both on ethanol. With respect to the ethanol expansion to 150, could you speak to the expected capital structure for the expansion? Second, staying on the ethanol facility, it is clear that you guys operate a very low CI plant based on efficiency and CCUS. Given that you operate in a more progressive region for CSA practices, how are you thinking about the benefit of expected CSA policy on your 45Z credits?
Speaker #4: I have two questions for you guys, both on S and all. So with respect to the S and all expansion to 150, could you speak to the expected capital structure for the expansion?
Speaker #4: And second, staying on the S and all facility, it's clear that you guys operate at a very low CI plant based on efficiency and CCUS.
Speaker #4: But given that you operate in a more progressive region for CSA practices, how are you thinking about the benefit of expected CSA policy on your 45Z credits?
Paul Bloom: Yeah, both great questions. Thanks. I'll start with the first one. On the capital structure, right, as we work through the details with Ara on the expansion, we'll stay in the lead, right? We're going to have a controlling interest in the plant. Obviously, we will operate the plant, and as we work through that, everything's going to be consolidated on our balance sheet. That's the plan going forward. I don't know, Leke, you want to chime in there?
Paul Bloom: Yeah, both great questions. Thanks. I'll start with the first one. On the capital structure, right, as we work through the details with Ara on the expansion, we'll stay in the lead, right? We're going to have a controlling interest in the plant. Obviously, we will operate the plant, and as we work through that, everything's going to be consolidated on our balance sheet. That's the plan going forward. I don't know, Leke, you want to chime in there?
Speaker #5: Yeah. Both great questions. Thanks. I'll start with the first one. So on the capital structure, right, as we work through the details with Aura on the expansion, we'll stay in the lead, right?
Speaker #5: So we're going to be have a controlling interest in the plant. Obviously, we will operate the plant and as we work through that, everything's going to be consolidated on our balance sheet.
Speaker #5: That's the plan going forward. I don't know, like you want to.
Leke Agiri: Yeah. The only thing to add to that is there's going to be project-level debt that we also use to optimize the financing strategy. As Paul mentioned, we are targeting a controlling interest. We'll consolidate the expansion projects, and then the rest of the capital stack is going to be provided by us and Ara, which again, it goes back to the point I was raising earlier. Our existing operations generating the right level of EBITDA on a recurring basis. Cash is coming in for us to be able to fund our ownership interest of the expansion project.
Leke Agiri: Yeah. The only thing to add to that is there's going to be project-level debt that we also use to optimize the financing strategy. As Paul mentioned, we are targeting a controlling interest. We'll consolidate the expansion projects, and then the rest of the capital stack is going to be provided by us and Ara, which again, it goes back to the point I was raising earlier. Our existing operations generating the right level of EBITDA on a recurring basis. Cash is coming in for us to be able to fund our ownership interest of the expansion project.
Speaker #7: Yeah. The only thing to add to that is, there's going to be project-level debt that we also use to optimize the financing strategy. So, as Paul mentioned, we are targeting a controlling interest.
Speaker #7: We'll consolidate the expansion project and then the rest of the capital stack is going to be provided by us and Aura which again, it goes back to the point I was raising earlier, our existing operations generating the right level of EBITDA on a recurring basis, cash is coming in for us to be able to fund our ownership interest of the expansion project.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. Again, just to be clear, right, again, a non-dilutive financing approach at that project level-
Paul Bloom: Yeah. Again, just to be clear, right, again, a non-dilutive financing approach at that project level-
Speaker #5: Yeah. And then again, just to be clear, right, again, a non-dilutive financing approach at that project level. That like you're talking about. Moving on to your second part of the question, we do have one of the lowest CI scores out there.
Leke Agiri: That's right
Leke Agiri: That's right
Paul Bloom: that Leke's talking about. Moving on to your second part of the question, we do have one of the lowest CI scores out there. From a 45Z ag benefits perspective, the question is always how much lower can you go? We do have a little bit, that's going to be, Greg can chime in here too, we've got more energy optimization, right? When you think about CI, carbon intensity, it's kind of a proxy for a lot of good things that happen. The best one is called efficiency, right? As you continue to do more with less or have more output with less input, you drive down the carbon intensity. You also drive your economics in a favorable way for your projects. We're laser-focused on that.
Paul Bloom: that Leke's talking about. Moving on to your second part of the question, we do have one of the lowest CI scores out there. From a 45Z ag benefits perspective, the question is always how much lower can you go? We do have a little bit, that's going to be, Greg can chime in here too, we've got more energy optimization, right? When you think about CI, carbon intensity, it's kind of a proxy for a lot of good things that happen. The best one is called efficiency, right? As you continue to do more with less or have more output with less input, you drive down the carbon intensity. You also drive your economics in a favorable way for your projects. We're laser-focused on that.
Speaker #5: And so, from a 45Z AG benefits perspective, the question is always: how much lower can you go? So, we do have a little bit, but that's going to be—Greg can chime in here too—but we've got more energy optimization, right?
Speaker #5: When you think about CI—carbon intensity—it's kind of a proxy for a lot of good things that happen. The best one is called efficiency, right?
Speaker #5: So as you continue to do more with less or have more output with less input, you drive down the carbon intensity. You also drive your economics of in a favorable way for your projects.
Speaker #5: So we're laser focused on that. Again, we already have a low CI score. So probably compared to a lot of others, we've got a smaller amount that we can take advantage of, I guess, CSA or the ag benefits regen ag benefits that are coming in because you can't go lower than zero, right?
Paul Bloom: We already have a low CI score, probably compared to a lot of others, we've got a smaller amount that we can take advantage of, like a CSA or the ag benefits, regen ag benefits that are coming in, because you can't go lower than zero, right? We're already getting pretty close. It could be a few million dollars that we're going to be trying to pull out of that, but it's really going to come to that we're going to need more bushels. We've got an expansion coming. We think that this is just a bigger deal, we're optimistic that this is the right way to go because Climate-Smart Agriculture or regen agriculture, all of those things help to also enrich the carbon in the soil.
Paul Bloom: We already have a low CI score, probably compared to a lot of others, we've got a smaller amount that we can take advantage of, like a CSA or the ag benefits, regen ag benefits that are coming in, because you can't go lower than zero, right? We're already getting pretty close. It could be a few million dollars that we're going to be trying to pull out of that, but it's really going to come to that we're going to need more bushels. We've got an expansion coming. We think that this is just a bigger deal, we're optimistic that this is the right way to go because Climate-Smart Agriculture or regen agriculture, all of those things help to also enrich the carbon in the soil.
Speaker #5: And so we're already getting pretty close. So it could be a few million dollars that we're going to be trying to pull out of that, but it's really going to come down to that we're going to need more bushels.
Speaker #5: We've got an expansion coming. So we think that this is just a bigger deal and again, we're optimistic that this is the right way to go because climate smart agriculture or regen agriculture.
Speaker #5: All of those things help to also enrich the carbon in the soil. They make soils more robust. To weather events and so we think that this is just the right way to move forward.
Paul Bloom: They make soils more robust to weather events. We think that this is just the right way to move forward. Farmers can do more with less, too, right? It's a good practice to have. I don't know, Greg, if you want to talk about anything else that we've got.
Paul Bloom: They make soils more robust to weather events. We think that this is just the right way to move forward. Farmers can do more with less, too, right? It's a good practice to have. I don't know, Greg, if you want to talk about anything else that we've got.
Speaker #5: So, farmers can do more with less too, right? It's just a good practice to have. I don't know, Greg, if you want to talk about anything else that we've got.
Greg Hanselman: I'd just add on the CI score, we do have a little room to go. Volume is a nice lever to dilute out fixed, obviously, energy, there's less consumption as you get that next unit at the top end of a big facility. Working and solving for that in our modeling and our design is a key part of what we're working on, not only in the debottlenecking, but also the expansion projects.
Greg Hanselman: I'd just add on the CI score, we do have a little room to go. Volume is a nice lever to dilute out fixed, obviously, energy, there's less consumption as you get that next unit at the top end of a big facility. Working and solving for that in our modeling and our design is a key part of what we're working on, not only in the debottlenecking, but also the expansion projects.
Speaker #5: No, I'd just add on the CI score. We do have a little room to go and volume is a nice lever to dilute out fixed, obviously, but also energy is there's less consumption as you get that next unit at the top end of a big facility.
Speaker #5: And so working and solving for that in our modeling and our design is a key part of what we're working on, not only in the demodel necking, but also the expansion project.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. I think the other thing that we're really focused on is that reliability, because we can't get time back. Our operational excellence, we're laser-focused on making sure that we're a great operator and the only downtime we have is the planned downtime. That's the thing that gives me a lot of optimism about this growth plan that we have, is we're already demonstrating this. We've been doing the debottlenecking now this year, and thinking about that, take a look at our website when you get a chance. We've got some time-lapse photography of everything that we've been doing. It's fantastic. Team's really been executing well. We've been building and growing while operating, right? It's not an easy thing to do, and we need to do that safely.
Paul Bloom: Yeah. I think the other thing that we're really focused on is that reliability, because we can't get time back. Our operational excellence, we're laser-focused on making sure that we're a great operator and the only downtime we have is the planned downtime. That's the thing that gives me a lot of optimism about this growth plan that we have, is we're already demonstrating this. We've been doing the debottlenecking now this year, and thinking about that, take a look at our website when you get a chance. We've got some time-lapse photography of everything that we've been doing. It's fantastic. Team's really been executing well. We've been building and growing while operating, right? It's not an easy thing to do, and we need to do that safely.
Speaker #5: Yeah. I think the other thing that we're really focused on is that reliability. Because if you we can't get time back. So our operational excellence, we're laser focused on making sure that we're a great operator and the only downtime we have is the planned downtime.
Speaker #5: And so that's the thing that gives me a lot of optimism about this growth plan that we have is we're already demonstrating this. We've been doing the demodel necking now this year.
Speaker #5: And thinking about that, take a look at our website when you get a chance. We've got some time-lapse photography of everything that we've been doing.
Speaker #5: I mean, it's fantastic. The team has really been executing well. We've been building and growing while operating, right? It's not easy thing to do and we need to do that safely.
Paul Bloom: We need to make sure that that's at the top of our list and continue to be focused on that. We're going to move into the next phase, where we're really going to be doing the expansion, and then we'll move into the third phase beyond that, where we've got the ATJ project. I think my confidence level's really building with the entire team because they're able to execute on this, and you can see it, right? Again, go to website, check out our photos and it's pretty cool stuff.
Paul Bloom: We need to make sure that that's at the top of our list and continue to be focused on that. We're going to move into the next phase, where we're really going to be doing the expansion, and then we'll move into the third phase beyond that, where we've got the ATJ project. I think my confidence level's really building with the entire team because they're able to execute on this, and you can see it, right? Again, go to website, check out our photos and it's pretty cool stuff.
Speaker #5: We need to make sure that that's at the top of our list and continue to be focused on that. But then we're going to move into the next phase where we're really going to be doing the expansion and then we'll move into the third phase beyond that where we've got the ATJ project.
Speaker #5: So I think my confidence level is really building with the entire team because they're able to execute on this and you can see it, right?
Speaker #5: So again, go to the website, check out our photos and it's pretty cool stuff.
Derrick Whitfield: Great update, guys. Congratulations on all your progress.
Derrick Whitfield: Great update, guys. Congratulations on all your progress.
Speaker #4: Great. I think as in congratulations on all your progress.
Paul Bloom: Thank you.
Paul Bloom: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Operator 2: Thank you, Derek. It looks like our final question today comes from the line of Peter Gastreich with Water Tower Research. Peter, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Derek. It looks like our final question today comes from the line of Peter Gastreich with Water Tower Research. Peter, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you, Derek. And it looks like our final question today comes from the line of Peter Gastric with Water Tower Research. Peter, please go ahead.
Peter Gastreich: Thank you very much, and congratulations on the results, and thanks for taking my question. Just a couple questions. First of all, for Frontier Infrastructure and Carbonfuture, they announced a new partnership a few days ago to market CDRs from ethanol CO2. That's a parallel initiative, right? Does that have any implications to you in terms of advancing the strategy, and what can you share about that?
Peter Gastreich: Thank you very much, and congratulations on the results, and thanks for taking my question. Just a couple questions. First of all, for Frontier Infrastructure and Carbonfuture, they announced a new partnership a few days ago to market CDRs from ethanol CO2. That's a parallel initiative, right? Does that have any implications to you in terms of advancing the strategy, and what can you share about that?
Speaker #6: Thank you very much. And congratulations on the results and thanks for taking my question. Just a couple of questions. First of all, for frontier infrastructure and carbon future, they announced a new partnership a few days ago to market CDRs from ethanol CO2.
Speaker #6: Is that a parallel initiative, right? Does that have any implications for you in terms of advancing the strategy and what can you share about that?
Paul Bloom: Peter, I think CDRs just in general, right? This is what we're selling today, right? The
Paul Bloom: Peter, I think CDRs just in general, right? This is what we're selling today, right? The
Speaker #5: So Peter, I think CDRs just in general, right? I mean, this is what we're selling today, right? So the CDRs are the voluntary side of the carbon market.
Peter Gastreich: Yeah
Peter Gastreich: Yeah
Paul Bloom: CDRs is the voluntary side of the carbon market. CDR stands for Carbon Dioxide Removal. We've been certified from the very beginning through Puro.earth, and that's the business that we continue to look at growing. We sold 8,500 tons to Nasdaq. Overall, we were actually just finalizing some more transactions around the carbon business on the voluntary side. We think this is great. If you look at the overall macros on that business, about $12 billion has been actually committed in CDR purchases, but only about 3.3% of that has been actually delivered. That comes from a website called CDR.fyi. I think that is a really good place to look. We're actually number 5 on the leaderboard on CDR.fyi as a supplier.
Paul Bloom: CDRs is the voluntary side of the carbon market. CDR stands for Carbon Dioxide Removal. We've been certified from the very beginning through Puro.earth, and that's the business that we continue to look at growing. We sold 8,500 tons to Nasdaq. Overall, we were actually just finalizing some more transactions around the carbon business on the voluntary side. We think this is great. If you look at the overall macros on that business, about $12 billion has been actually committed in CDR purchases, but only about 3.3% of that has been actually delivered. That comes from a website called CDR.fyi. I think that is a really good place to look. We're actually number 5 on the leaderboard on CDR.fyi as a supplier.
Speaker #5: And so the CDR stands for carbon dioxide removal. And so we've been certified from the very beginning through PURO.earth and that's the business that we continue to look at growing.
Speaker #5: We sold 8,500 tons to NASDAQ overall. We've actually just finalizing some more transactions around the carbon business on the voluntary side. So we think this is great.
Speaker #5: If you look at the overall macros on that business about 12 billion dollars has been actually committed in CDR purchases. And but only about 3.3% of that has been actually delivered.
Speaker #5: That comes from a website called CDR.FYI. I think that is a really good place to look. We're actually number five on the leaderboard on CDR.FYI as a supplier.
Paul Bloom: The thing that I think is great about what we're doing is we're one of the handful of companies who can actually not only just talk about CDRs and sell CDRs, but we can deliver those CDRs. We're becoming, I would say, as you work through the quality requirements, which we have very high-quality carbon, and we're going to stay focused on delivering that high-quality product, that we're a trusted supplier in this space.
Paul Bloom: The thing that I think is great about what we're doing is we're one of the handful of companies who can actually not only just talk about CDRs and sell CDRs, but we can deliver those CDRs. We're becoming, I would say, as you work through the quality requirements, which we have very high-quality carbon, and we're going to stay focused on delivering that high-quality product, that we're a trusted supplier in this space.
Speaker #5: So the thing that I think is great about what we're doing is we're one of the handful of companies who can actually not only just talk about CDRs and sell CDRs, but we can deliver those CDRs.
Speaker #5: So we're becoming I would say as you work through the quality requirements, which are very we have very high quality carbon and we're going to stay focused on delivering that high quality product.
Speaker #5: That we're a trusted supplier in this space.
Peter Gastreich: Okay, great. Thank you. Just a second question on the EBITDA challenge, which you discussed in the Q1 results. Have you thought about where some of the low-hanging fruit could lie? Also with respect to South Dakota, are there any other benefits to your costs that could be reflected, for example, in the Gevo business segment or other that could come up in subsequent quarters?
Peter Gastreich: Okay, great. Thank you. Just a second question on the EBITDA challenge, which you discussed in the Q1 results. Have you thought about where some of the low-hanging fruit could lie? Also with respect to South Dakota, are there any other benefits to your costs that could be reflected, for example, in the Gevo business segment or other that could come up in subsequent quarters?
Speaker #6: Okay. Great, thank you. Just a second question on the EBITDA challenge, which you discussed in the Q1 results. Have you thought about where some of the low-hanging fruit could lie, and also, with respect to South Dakota, are there any other benefits to your costs that could be reflected, for example, in the Gevo business segment or others, that could come up in subsequent quarters?
Paul Bloom: Yeah, look, we're very happy with how we've been progressing the EBITDA challenge. There's a lot in the hopper. Leke can provide the details. He's the champion of the EBITDA challenge here at Gevo. We've identified quite a number of opportunities and started to execute on those. Leke, I'll let you give some of the good news.
Paul Bloom: Yeah, look, we're very happy with how we've been progressing the EBITDA challenge. There's a lot in the hopper. Leke can provide the details. He's the champion of the EBITDA challenge here at Gevo. We've identified quite a number of opportunities and started to execute on those. Leke, I'll let you give some of the good news.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Look, we're very happy with how we've been progressing the EBITDA challenge. So there's a lot in the hopper. We've gone through I don't think it can provide the details.
Speaker #5: He's the champion of the EBITDA challenge here at Gevo. But we've identified quite a number of opportunities and started to execute on those. So like I'll let you give some of the good news.
Leke Agiri: Yeah. No, absolutely. Great question. In terms of EBITDA challenge, we're at a place where we've identified over 3 dozens of opportunities in front of us, which are really, probably half of it is low-hanging fruit. To date, we've actually implemented about 50% of those identified items, which is not necessarily related to ATJ60 or the South Dakota project. This is actually recurring operational efficiencies that we can actually just implement this year. During the H2 of this year is when we expect to see some of those executions and implementations to start manifesting in our financial performance for the year as well. Where we are tracking today is our Q3 and Q4 results is going to be reflecting our focus and the implementation of the EBITDA challenge, and we're on the right trajectory to see some very groundbreaking milestones on that as well.
Leke Agiri: Yeah. No, absolutely. Great question. In terms of EBITDA challenge, we're at a place where we've identified over 3 dozens of opportunities in front of us, which are really, probably half of it is low-hanging fruit. To date, we've actually implemented about 50% of those identified items, which is not necessarily related to ATJ60 or the South Dakota project. This is actually recurring operational efficiencies that we can actually just implement this year. During the H2 of this year is when we expect to see some of those executions and implementations to start manifesting in our financial performance for the year as well. Where we are tracking today is our Q3 and Q4 results is going to be reflecting our focus and the implementation of the EBITDA challenge, and we're on the right trajectory to see some very groundbreaking milestones on that as well.
Speaker #2: Yeah. No, absolutely. So great question. So in terms of EBITDA challenge, where are the place where we've identified over three dozens of opportunities in front of us, which are really probably half of it is low-hanging fruit.
Speaker #2: So to date, we've actually implemented about 50% of those identified items which is not necessarily related to ATJ 60 or the South Dakota project.
Speaker #2: This is actually recurring operational efficiencies that we can actually just implement this year. And during the second half of this year is where we expect to see
Speaker #1: Some of those executions and implementation to start manifesting in our financial performance for the year as well . So where we are tracking today is our Q3 and Q4 results is going to be reflecting our focus and implementation of the EBITDA challenge .
Speaker #1: And we're on the right trajectory , you know , to to see some very , very groundbreaking milestones on that as well .
Paul Bloom: Yeah, it's really the combination of how do we continue to unlock revenue through new pathways, things like the CFR, right? We're focused on that. That was part of the EBITDA challenge, and we've got more pathways to unlock. The other part is just how do we really manage and control our costs going forward and really have a disciplined approach to these are the things we need to accomplish and making sure we understand what that's going to return for us and our shareholders as we do that.
Paul Bloom: Yeah, it's really the combination of how do we continue to unlock revenue through new pathways, things like the CFR, right? We're focused on that. That was part of the EBITDA challenge, and we've got more pathways to unlock. The other part is just how do we really manage and control our costs going forward and really have a disciplined approach to these are the things we need to accomplish and making sure we understand what that's going to return for us and our shareholders as we do that.
Speaker #2: Yeah . And it's really the combination of how do we continue to unlock revenue through new pathways , things like the CFR , right ?
Speaker #2: I mean , we were focused on that . That was part of , of the EBITDA challenge . And we've got more pathways to unlock .
Speaker #2: And then the other part is just how do we , you know , really manage and control our costs going forward . And , and really have a disciplined approach to these are the things we , we need to accomplish and making sure that we understand what that's going to return for us and our shareholders as we do that
Peter Gastreich: Okay. That's great. Thank you very much.
Peter Gastreich: Okay. That's great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #3: Okay . That's great . Thank you very much .
Operator 2: Thank you, Peter. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to CEO Paul Bloom for closing remarks. Paul?
Operator: Thank you, Peter. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to CEO Paul Bloom for closing remarks. Paul?
Speaker #4: Thank you . Peter , and ladies and gentlemen , that does conclude our question and answer session . So I will now turn the call back over to CEO Paul Bloom for closing remarks .
Speaker #4: Paul .
Paul Bloom: Thank you. Hey, this quarter shows that Gevo is really executing. We've got stronger adjusted EBITDA. We're improving our cash generation. We have a working carbon business and a disciplined growth plan centered on Gevo, North Dakota. That's the platform that we intend to scale. Again, I just want to thank all our colleagues and really our partners and our customers and our shareholders for all the support. Thank you very much.
Paul Bloom: Thank you. Hey, this quarter shows that Gevo is really executing. We've got stronger adjusted EBITDA. We're improving our cash generation. We have a working carbon business and a disciplined growth plan centered on Gevo, North Dakota. That's the platform that we intend to scale. Again, I just want to thank all our colleagues and really our partners and our customers and our shareholders for all the support. Thank you very much.
Speaker #2: Thank you . Hey , this quarter shows that Gevo is really executing . We've got stronger adjusted EBITDA . We're improving our cash generation .
Speaker #2: We have a working carbon business and a disciplined growth plan centered on Gevo North Dakota . And that's the platform that we intend to scale .
Speaker #2: So again , I just want to thank all our colleagues and really the our partners and our customers and our shareholders for all the support .
Speaker #2: Thank you very much .
Operator 2: Thanks, Paul. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you so much for joining, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.
Operator: Thanks, Paul. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you so much for joining, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.
Speaker #4: Thanks , Paul . And ladies and gentlemen , that concludes today's call . Thank you so much for joining . And you may now disconnect .