Q1 2027 Agilysys Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Agilysys 2027 first quarter conference call. As a reminder, today's conference may be recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jessica Hennessy, Vice President of Operations and Investor Relations at Agilysys.
Operator: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Agilysys 2027 Q1 Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference may be recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jessica Hennessy, Vice President of Operations and Investor Relations of Agilysys. You may begin.
Speaker #1: You may begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Lisa, and good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining the Agilysys 2027 first quarter conference call. We will get started in just a minute with management's comments, but before doing so, let me read the Safe Harbor language.
Jessica Hennessy: Thank you, Lisa, good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining the Agilysys 2027 first quarter conference call. We will get started in just a minute with management's comments. Before doing so, let me read the safe harbor language. Some statements made on today's call will be predictive and are intended to be made as forward-looking within the safe harbor protections of the US Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding our financial guidance. Although the company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially.
Jessica Hennessy: Thank you, Lisa, good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining the Agilysys 2027 Q1 Conference Call. We will get started in just a minute with management's comments. Before doing so, let me read the safe harbor language. Some statements made on today's call will be predictive and are intended to be made as forward-looking within the safe harbor protections of the US Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding our financial guidance. Although the company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially.
Speaker #2: Some statements made on today's call will be predictive and are intended to be made as forward-looking within the safe harbor protections of the U.S.
Speaker #2: Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding our financial guidance. Although the company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially.
Speaker #2: Important factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements include our ability to achieve the increased guidance levels, continue to improve profitability levels, the company's ability to maintain sales momentum, utilize AI to continue to increase competitive advantages, and the risks set forth in the company's reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Jessica Hennessy: Important factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements include our ability to achieve the increased guidance levels, continue to improve profitability levels, the company's ability to maintain sales momentum, utilize AI to continue to increase competitive advantages, and the risks set forth in the company's reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As a reminder, any references to record financial and business levels during this call refer only to the time period after Agilysys made the transformation to an entirely hospitality-focused software solutions company in fiscal year 2014. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Ramesh Srinivasan, President and CEO of Agilysys. Ramesh, please go ahead.
Jessica Hennessy: Important factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements include our ability to achieve the increased guidance levels, continue to improve profitability levels, the company's ability to maintain sales momentum, utilize AI to continue to increase competitive advantages, and the risks set forth in the company's reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As a reminder, any references to record financial and business levels during this call refer only to the time period after Agilysys made the transformation to an entirely hospitality-focused software solutions company in fiscal year 2014. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Ramesh Srinivasan, President and CEO of Agilysys. Ramesh, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, any references to record financial and business levels during this call refer only to the time period after Agilysys made the transformation to an entirely hospitality-focused software solutions company in fiscal year 2014.
Speaker #2: With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Ramesh Srinivasan, President and CEO of Agilysys. Ramesh, please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jess. Good evening. Welcome to our fiscal 2027 first quarter earnings call. Joining Jess and me on the call today is Dave Wood, CFO.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Jess. Good evening. Welcome to our fiscal 2027 first quarter earnings call. Joining Jess and me on the call today is Dave Wood, CFO at our Alpharetta, Atlanta headquarters. Let me cover sales and selling success first before discussing revenue, profitability, the decision to raise guidance levels provided a couple of months ago, and other details. We continue to measure sales in annual contract value terms and exclude subscription sales pertaining to the Marriott property management system, PMS project, from the overall sales numbers. FY 2027 Q1 was an excellent overall business quarter for Agilysys, including with respect to sales, revenue, and profitability, each of which set a new Q1 quarter record. This was the best sales success April to June Q1 period on record.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Jess. Good evening. Welcome to our fiscal 2027 Q1 earnings call. Joining Jess and me on the call today is Dave Wood, CFO at our Alpharetta, Atlanta headquarters. Let me cover sales and selling success first before discussing revenue, profitability, the decision to raise guidance levels provided a couple of months ago, and other details. We continue to measure sales in annual contract value terms and exclude subscription sales pertaining to the Marriott property management system, PMS project, from the overall sales numbers. FY 2027 Q1 was an excellent overall business quarter for Agilysys, including with respect to sales, revenue, and profitability, each of which set a new Q1 quarter record. This was the best sales success April to June Q1 period on record.
Speaker #3: At our Alpharetta, Atlanta headquarters. Let me cover sales and selling success first, before discussing revenue, profitability, the decision to raise guidance levels provided a couple of months ago, and other details.
Speaker #3: We continue to measure sales in annual contract value terms and exclude subscription sales pertaining to the Marriott property management system (PMS) project from the overall sales numbers.
Speaker #3: FY 2027 Q1 was an excellent overall business quarter for Agilysys, including with respect to sales, revenue, and profitability—each of which set a new Q1 quarter record.
Speaker #3: This was the best sales success for the April to June Q1 period on record. In fact, it was the best sales quarter in our history outside of the Q4, January to March sales period, which has continued to be the strongest during the recent several years.
Ramesh Srinivasan: In fact, it was the best sales quarter in our history outside of the Q4 January to March sales period, which has tended to be the strongest during the recent several years. The last 2 quarters taken together constituted the best ever 6-month sales period in our history. Fiscal Q1, April to June, was an excellent sales quarter for several verticals. This was the best sales quarter ever for the Asia Pacific region and the highest Q1 sales period for each major domestic vertical: casino gaming, hotel resorts, cruise ships, HRC, and Food Service Management, FSM. Sales success this quarter featured three major 7-figure multi-product ecosystem wins, two in the casino gaming vertical and one in Australia, and all three were won battling against our main, most often seen competitor.
Ramesh Srinivasan: In fact, it was the best sales quarter in our history outside of the Q4 January to March sales period, which has tended to be the strongest during the recent several years. The last two quarters taken together constituted the best ever six-month sales period in our history. Fiscal Q1, April to June, was an excellent sales quarter for several verticals. This was the best sales quarter ever for the Asia-Pacific region and the highest Q1 sales period for each major domestic vertical: casino gaming, hotel resorts, cruise ships, HRC, and Food Service Management, FSM. Sales success this quarter featured three major seven-figure multi-product ecosystem wins, two in the casino gaming vertical and one in Australia, and all three were won battling against our main, most often seen competitor.
Speaker #3: The last two quarters taken together constituted the best-ever six-month sales period in our history. Fiscal Q1, April to June, was an excellent sales quarter for several verticals.
Speaker #3: This was the best sales quarter ever for the Asia-Pacific region, and the highest Q1 sales period for each major domestic vertical: casino gaming, hotel resorts cruise ships (HRC), and food service management (FSM).
Speaker #3: Sales success this quarter featured three major, seven-figure, multi-product ecosystem wins: two in the casino gaming vertical, and one in Australia. All three were won battling against our main, most-often-seen competitor.
Speaker #3: A major casino resort currently under construction on the Las Vegas Strip shows Agilysys for point-of-sale (POS), property management system (PMS), and several other software modules.
Ramesh Srinivasan: A major casino resort currently under construction in the Las Vegas Strip chose Agilysys for point-of-sale, POS, Property Management System, PMS, and several other software modules. Another major casino resort based in Arizona, who had been the customer of our main competitor for about 2 decades, chose to switch to Agilysys lock, stock, and barrel across POS, PMS, and other software modules. Despite these 2 big wins in the US, the main highlight of the quarter probably was a nine-property resort group in Australia deciding to switch to Agilysys PMS and other related supporting modules after being with our main competitor for more than a couple of decades. We were originally not included in this particular RFP process.
Ramesh Srinivasan: A major casino resort currently under construction in the Las Vegas Strip chose Agilysys for point-of-sale, POS, Property Management System, PMS, and several other software modules. Another major casino resort based in Arizona, who had been the customer of our main competitor for about two decades, chose to switch to Agilysys lock, stock, and barrel across POS, PMS, and other software modules. Despite these two big wins in the US, the main highlight of the quarter probably was a nine-property resort group in Australia deciding to switch to Agilysys PMS and other related supporting modules after being with our main competitor for more than a couple of decades. We were originally not included in this particular RFP process.
Speaker #3: Another major casino resort based in Arizona, who had been the customer of our main competitor for about two decades, chose to switch to Agilysys lock, stock and barrel across POS, PMS, and other software modules.
Speaker #3: Despite these two big wins in the U.S., the main highlight of the quarter probably was a nine-property resort group in Australia deciding to switch to Agilysys PMS and other related supporting modules after being with our main competitor for more than a couple of decades.
Speaker #3: We were originally not included in this particular RFP process. It took a good reference recommendation from one of our current customers in Australia, along with dedicated, persistent efforts by the sales team, to get included in the game at the last minute.
Ramesh Srinivasan: It took a good reference recommendation from one of our current customers in Australia, along with dedicated, persistent efforts by the sales team to get included in the game at the last minute. From that point forward, we surged forward quickly, thanks to the superiority of our best-in-class software modules and the obvious strengths of the end-to-end ecosystem, along with excellent product demonstrations and presentations conducted by our talented personnel in the Asia Pacific region. Finalization of the customer selection process was completed in just a few weeks after that. Our sales win-loss ratio remains high and impressive. Getting more at bats remains our main challenge, and we are getting better at being more persistent in getting included in more selection processes. Number of positive reference customers for the modernized solutions.
Ramesh Srinivasan: It took a good reference recommendation from one of our current customers in Australia, along with dedicated, persistent efforts by the sales team to get included in the game at the last minute. From that point forward, we surged forward quickly, thanks to the superiority of our best-in-class software modules and the obvious strengths of the end-to-end ecosystem, along with excellent product demonstrations and presentations conducted by our talented personnel in the Asia-Pacific region. Finalization of the customer selection process was completed in just a few weeks after that. Our sales win-loss ratio remains high and impressive. Getting more at bats remains our main challenge, and we are getting better at being more persistent in getting included in more selection processes. Number of positive reference customers for the modernized solutions.
Speaker #3: And from that point forward, we surged ahead quickly, thanks to the superiority of our best-in-class software modules and the obvious strengths of the end-to-end ecosystem.
Speaker #3: Along with excellent product demonstrations and presentations conducted by our talented personnel in the Asia-Pacific region, the customer selection process was finalized in just a few weeks after that.
Speaker #3: Our sales win-loss ratio remains high and impressive. Getting more at-bats remains our main challenge, and we are getting better at being more persistent in getting included in more selection processes.
Speaker #3: Backed up by a growing number of positive reference customers for the modernized solutions. A couple of significant customers, including one in the U.K., recently reported achieving excellent revenue improvements directly attributable to the use of the Agilysys ecosystem of modern interconnected solutions.
Ramesh Srinivasan: A couple of significant customers, including one in the UK, recently reported achieving excellent revenue improvements directly attributable to the use of the Agilysys ecosystem of modern interconnected solutions, especially the ability for their guests to book packages online, a recent award-winning innovation, which would be virtually impossible for our competition to duplicate anytime soon. We expect our sales levels to continue running forward with increased momentum as such differentiating value creation success for customers become more well-known. Given the nature of our B2B business, even one such story that a customer is willing to talk about openly is worth $1 million in marketing spend. While this was another excellent business quarter in various ways, I would be remiss if I don't remind everyone that it is always best to judge our business progress on an annual basis. There is no guarantee that each upcoming quarter will be a record.
Ramesh Srinivasan: A couple of significant customers, including one in the UK, recently reported achieving excellent revenue improvements directly attributable to the use of the Agilysys ecosystem of modern interconnected solutions, especially the ability for their guests to book packages online, a recent award-winning innovation, which would be virtually impossible for our competition to duplicate anytime soon. We expect our sales levels to continue running forward with increased momentum as such differentiating value creation success for customers become more well-known. Given the nature of our B2B business, even one such story that a customer is willing to talk about openly is worth $1 million in marketing spend. While this was another excellent business quarter in various ways, I would be remiss if I don't remind everyone that it is always best to judge our business progress on an annual basis. There is no guarantee that each upcoming quarter will be a record.
Speaker #3: Especially the ability for their guests to book packages online—a recent, award-winning innovation which would be virtually impossible for our competition to duplicate anytime soon.
Speaker #3: We expect our sales level to continue running forward with increased momentum, as such differentiating value-creation success for customers becomes more well-known. Given the nature of our B2B business, even one such story that a customer is willing to talk about openly is worth a million in marketing spend.
Speaker #3: While this was another excellent business quarter in various ways, I would be remiss if I did not remind everyone that it is always best to judge our business progress on an annual basis.
Speaker #3: There is no guarantee that each upcoming quarter will be a record. We can, however, state with a high degree of confidence that fiscal 2027 will be a record-best year for sales, revenue, and profitability.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We can, however, state with a high degree of confidence that fiscal 2027 will be a record best year for sales, revenue, and profitability. This is a business that should be judged on annual results and full-year guidance levels. With respect to sales deals won during Q1 fiscal 2027, April to June, we added 15, one, five. We added 15 new customers, excluding Book4Time, all of whom signed subscription license-based sales agreements. These 15 new customers licensed an average of close to six products each. We also added 87 new properties, which were not using any of our software solutions before, but the parent company was already a customer. Of the 102 new properties added during the quarter across new and current customers, 101 were either partially or fully subscription license-based.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We can, however, state with a high degree of confidence that fiscal 2027 will be a record best year for sales, revenue, and profitability. This is a business that should be judged on annual results and full-year guidance levels. With respect to sales deals won during Q1 fiscal 2027, April to June, we added 15, one, five. We added 15 new customers, excluding Book4Time, all of whom signed subscription license-based sales agreements. These 15 new customers licensed an average of close to six products each. We also added 87 new properties, which were not using any of our software solutions before, but the parent company was already a customer. Of the 102 new properties added during the quarter across new and current customers, 101 were either partially or fully subscription license-based.
Speaker #3: This is a business that should be judged on annual results and full-year guidance lens. With respect to sales deals won during Q1 fiscal 2027, April to June, we added 15, 1, 5.
Speaker #3: We added 15 new customers, excluding Book for Time, all of whom signed subscription license-based sales agreements. These 15 new customers licensed an average of close to six products each.
Speaker #3: We also added 87 new properties which were not using any of our software solutions before, but the parent company was already a customer. Of the 102 new properties added during the quarter, across new and current customers, 101 were either partially or fully subscription license-based.
Speaker #3: In addition, there were 106 instances of selling software solutions to properties that were already using at least one of our other products. These 106 deals involved the sale of a total of 206 products.
Ramesh Srinivasan: In addition, there were 106 instances of selling software solutions to properties which were already using at least one of our other products. These 106 deals involve the sale of a total of 206 products. Additional product adoption by existing customers continues to be a big contributor to sales and revenue growth. The Marriott TMS project continues to make good progress and remains on plan. It is remarkable to watch and learn from the success we have seen with this huge technology transformation project, one of the biggest ever attempted in the hospitality industry. We are proud to be associated with it and to be playing a leading role in it. Our AI adoption strategy is making good progress and is being executed as planned.
Ramesh Srinivasan: In addition, there were 106 instances of selling software solutions to properties which were already using at least one of our other products. These 106 deals involve the sale of a total of 206 products. Additional product adoption by existing customers continues to be a big contributor to sales and revenue growth. The Marriott PMS project continues to make good progress and remains on plan. It is remarkable to watch and learn from the success we have seen with this huge technology transformation project, one of the biggest ever attempted in the hospitality industry. We are proud to be associated with it and to be playing a leading role in it. Our AI adoption strategy is making good progress and is being executed as planned.
Speaker #3: Additional product adoption by existing customers continues to be a big contributor to sales and revenue growth. The married PMS project continues to make good progress and remains on plan.
Speaker #3: It is remarkable to watch and learn from the success we have seen with this huge technology transformation project—one of the biggest ever attempted in the hospitality industry.
Speaker #3: We are proud to be associated with it and to be playing a leading role in it. Our AI adoption strategy is making good progress and is being executed as planned.
Speaker #3: We have been intentional and deliberate about first establishing the necessary cost controls, customer data protection, and operational discipline, guidelines, and guardrails, thereby creating a foundation that will allow us to continue accelerating AI adoption with confidence.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We have been intentional and deliberate about first establishing the necessary cost controls, customer data protection and operations discipline, guidelines, and guardrails, thereby creating a foundation that will allow us to continue accelerating AI adoption with confidence. At the Inspire customer user conference during April, earlier this year, we had announced the development of 30-plus AI-based features. That is three, zero. 30-plus AI-based features. Several of these features are in the process of being deployed at pilot customer properties, while the remaining are nearing development and testing completion, as scheduled and on plan. Many of these features require not just AI, but an integrated ecosystem of modern software solutions. Modules like PMS, POS, spa, golf, inventory, all communicating with each other real-time or close to real-time. That is a strength very few competing providers can offer.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We have been intentional and deliberate about first establishing the necessary cost controls, customer data protection and operations discipline, guidelines, and guardrails, thereby creating a foundation that will allow us to continue accelerating AI adoption with confidence. At the Inspire customer user conference during April, earlier this year, we had announced the development of 30-plus AI-based features. That is three, zero. 30-plus AI-based features. Several of these features are in the process of being deployed at pilot customer properties, while the remaining are nearing development and testing completion, as scheduled and on plan. Many of these features require not just AI, but an integrated ecosystem of modern software solutions. Modules like PMS, POS, spa, golf, inventory, all communicating with each other real-time or close to real-time. That is a strength very few competing providers can offer.
Speaker #3: At the Inspire customer user conference during April earlier this year, we had announced the development of 30-plus AI-based features—that is, 3.0. Thirty-plus AI-based features.
Speaker #3: Several of these features are in the process of being deployed at pilot customer properties, while the remainder are nearing development and testing completion as scheduled and on plan.
Speaker #3: Many of these features require not just AI, but an integrated ecosystem of modern software solutions—modules like PMS, POS, Spa, Golf, Inventory—all communicating with each other in real time or close to real time.
Speaker #3: That is a strength very few competing providers can offer. We are seeing a need for AI for property-wide features, not just within point solutions.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We are seeing a need for AI for property-wide features, not just within point solutions. To enable such AI features at scale, we have built a central orchestration layer for all AI processing. This layer routes requests to the appropriate LLM for making intelligent decisions, optimizes token usage, and ensures adherence to our AI governance principles around security, privacy, compliance, and responsible AI norms. As we continue to scale up, we expect this central orchestration layer to provide the necessary controls around internal cost management, customer value creation, and managing monetization levers. Development of a couple of fully AI-native modules, CRS and Revenue Intelligence, is progressing on plan. We expect initial beta implementations at customer sites later this fiscal year. The initial versions of both these modules are designed to work within the scope of our product ecosystem.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We are seeing a need for AI for property-wide features, not just within point solutions. To enable such AI features at scale, we have built a central orchestration layer for all AI processing. This layer routes requests to the appropriate LLM for making intelligent decisions, optimizes token usage, and ensures adherence to our AI governance principles around security, privacy, compliance, and responsible AI norms. As we continue to scale up, we expect this central orchestration layer to provide the necessary controls around internal cost management, customer value creation, and managing monetization levers. Development of a couple of fully AI-native modules, CRS and Revenue Intelligence, is progressing on plan. We expect initial beta implementations at customer sites later this fiscal year. The initial versions of both these modules are designed to work within the scope of our product ecosystem.
Speaker #3: To enable such AI features at scale, we have built a central orchestration layer for all AI processing. This layer routes requests to the appropriate LLM for making intelligent decisions, optimizes token usage, and ensures adherence to our AI governance principles around security, privacy, compliance, and responsible AI norms.
Speaker #3: As we continue to scale up, we expect this central orchestration layer to provide the necessary controls around internal cost management, customer value creation, and managing monetization levers.
Speaker #3: Development of a couple of fully AI-native modules, CRS and revenue intelligence, is progressing on plan. We expect initial beta implementations at customer sites later this fiscal year.
Speaker #3: The initial versions of both these modules are designed to work within the scope of our product ecosystem. Now, with respect to revenue and profitability, Q1 fiscal 2027 overall revenue was $87.7 million.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Now, with respect to revenue and profitability, Q1 fiscal 2027 overall revenue was $87.7 million, a record for the 18th, that is one, eight, for the 18th consecutive quarter, and 14.3%, that is one, four, 14.3% higher than the comparable prior year quarter. Driven by 26.1% year-over-year growth in subscription revenue and 8.3% growth in professional services revenue. This was the 19th, that is one nine. This was the 19th consecutive quarter of more than 23% year-over-year subscription revenue growth. Growing subscription revenue at such a good clip consistently for about 5 years has been quite an accomplishment. Overall recurring revenue was a record $57.7 million, 18.8%, that is one eight, 18.8% higher than the comparable prior year period and 65.9% of total revenue. Q1 fiscal 2027 subscription revenue was a record $40.2 million. That is four zero, $40.2 million and 69.7% of total recurring revenue.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Now, with respect to revenue and profitability, Q1 fiscal 2027 overall revenue was $87.7 million, a record for the 18th, that is one, eight, for the 18th consecutive quarter, and 14.3%, that is one, four, 14.3% higher than the comparable prior year quarter. Driven by 26.1% year-over-year growth in subscription revenue and 8.3% growth in professional services revenue. This was the 19th, that is one nine. This was the 19th consecutive quarter of more than 23% year-over-year subscription revenue growth. Growing subscription revenue at such a good clip consistently for about 5 years has been quite an accomplishment. Overall recurring revenue was a record $57.7 million, 18.8%, that is one eight, 18.8% higher than the comparable prior year period and 65.9% of total revenue. Q1 fiscal 2027 subscription revenue was a record $40.2 million. That is four zero, $40.2 million and 69.7% of total recurring revenue.
Speaker #3: A record for the 18th, that is one-eighth, for the 18th consecutive quarter, and 14.3 percent, that is one-four, 14.3 percent higher than the comparable prior year quarter.
Speaker #3: Driven by 26.1 percent year-over-year growth in subscription revenue, and 8.3 percent growth in professional services revenue. This was the 19th, that is one-nine. This was the 19th consecutive quarter of more than 23 percent year-over-year subscription revenue growth.
Speaker #3: Growing subscription revenue at such a good clip consistently for about five years has been quite an accomplishment. Overall recurring revenue was a record 57.7 million, 18.8 percent, that is one-eighth, , 18.8 percent higher than the comparable prior year period, and 65.9 percent of total revenue.
Speaker #3: Q1 fiscal 2027 subscription revenue was a record 40.2 million, that is four-zero, 40.2 million dollars, and 69.7 percent of total recurring revenue. The 26.1 percent year-over-year growth in subscription revenue was driven by 39.7 percent growth in PMS and PMS-related modules, and 18.5, that is one-eighth, 18.5 percent in POS and POS-related modules.
Ramesh Srinivasan: The 26.1% year-over-year growth in subscription revenue was driven by 39.7% growth in PMS and PMS related modules, and 18.5, that is one eight, 18.5% in POS and POS related modules. Q1 fiscal 2027 is the first quarter in our history when total subscription revenue pertaining to PMS products was higher than that of the POS ecosystem. We expect subscription revenue growth in POS and related modules to remain in the high teens, low 20s kind of percentage levels for the foreseeable future. Add-on modules across both PMS and POS constituted 36% of total subscription revenue. Q1 fiscal 2027 annual maintenance-related recurring revenue was $17.4 million. That is one seven, $17.4 million, very close to record high levels. Most of the subscription revenue growth is coming from new and additional projects and not based on cannibalization of annual maintenance.
Ramesh Srinivasan: The 26.1% year-over-year growth in subscription revenue was driven by 39.7% growth in PMS and PMS related modules, and 18.5, that is one eight, 18.5% in POS and POS related modules. Q1 fiscal 2027 is the Q1 in our history when total subscription revenue pertaining to PMS products was higher than that of the POS ecosystem. We expect subscription revenue growth in POS and related modules to remain in the high teens, low 20s kind of percentage levels for the foreseeable future. Add-on modules across both PMS and POS constituted 36% of total subscription revenue. Q1 fiscal 2027 annual maintenance-related recurring revenue was $17.4 million. That is one seven, $17.4 million, very close to record high levels. Most of the subscription revenue growth is coming from new and additional projects and not based on cannibalization of annual maintenance.
Speaker #3: Q1 fiscal 2027 is the first quarter in our history when total subscription revenue pertaining to PMS products was higher than that of the POS ecosystem.
Speaker #3: We expect subscription revenue growth in POS and related modules to remain in the high teens to low twenties percentage levels for the foreseeable future.
Speaker #3: Add-on modules across both PMS and POS constituted 36 percent of total subscription revenue. Q1 fiscal 2027 annual maintenance-related recurring revenue was $17.4 million—that is, one-seven point four million dollars—very close to record high levels.
Speaker #3: Most of the subscription revenue growth is coming from new and additional projects, and not based on cannibalization of annual maintenance. We continue to allow customers to make their own decisions regarding the timing of moving to the cloud.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We continue to allow customers to make their own decisions regarding timing of moving to the cloud. One-time product revenue consisting of perpetual software licenses and third-party hardware was $10.3 million, in line with our expectations. Hardware revenue remains at these levels despite excellent success in overall POS sales. In fact, the last 2 quarters have been 2 of the top 3 on record for overall POS sales. The recent 6-month period of POS sales has been the highest ever 6-month period. Despite such POS sales results, hardware revenue remains at current levels. The current versions of the modernized POS solutions continue to carry a reduced hardware attach rate, since they also work on consumer-grade iPads and other smaller, less capital-intensive handheld devices. We continue to expect one-time product revenue to stay around this general range for the remainder of the fiscal year.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We continue to allow customers to make their own decisions regarding timing of moving to the cloud. One-time product revenue consisting of perpetual software licenses and third-party hardware was $10.3 million, in line with our expectations. Hardware revenue remains at these levels despite excellent success in overall POS sales. In fact, the last 2 quarters have been 2 of the top 3 on record for overall POS sales. The recent 6-month period of POS sales has been the highest ever 6-month period. Despite such POS sales results, hardware revenue remains at current levels. The current versions of the modernized POS solutions continue to carry a reduced hardware attach rate, since they also work on consumer-grade iPads and other smaller, less capital-intensive handheld devices. We continue to expect one-time product revenue to stay around this general range for the remainder of the fiscal year.
Speaker #3: One-time product revenue, consisting of perpetual software licenses and third-party hardware, was $10.3 million, in line with our expectations. Hardware revenue remains at these levels, despite excellent success in overall POS sales.
Speaker #3: In fact, the last two quarters have been two of the top three on record for overall POS sales. And the recent six-month period of POS sales has been the highest ever six-month period.
Speaker #3: Despite strong POS sales results, hardware revenue remains at current levels. The current versions of the modernized POS solutions continue to carry a reduced hardware attach rate since they also work on consumer-grade iPads and other smaller, less capital-intensive handheld devices.
Speaker #3: We continue to expect one-time product revenue to stay around this general range for the remainder of the fiscal year. Q1 fiscal 2027 professional services revenue was a record $19.6 million—one-nine—despite a big drop-off in customer-paid product development-related services revenue, as those major projects are now past the coding phase and in the implementation stage.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Q1 fiscal 2027 professional services revenue was a record $19.6 million, one nine, despite a big drop-off in customer-paid product development related services revenue, as those major projects are now past the coding phase and in the implementation stage. In addition, our services implement efficiencies have improved significantly due to the modernized solutions becoming exponentially easier to implement and through greater use of AI tools, which is a very good thing for us. We are now selling more software for every dollar of services sold, which is another good leading indicator of a maturing modern technology-based enterprise software business unit that is becoming more competitive even in price-sensitive markets. We expect professional services revenue to remain around current levels during the rest of this fiscal year and continue to grow in the medium and long term as the overall business continues to expand.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Q1 fiscal 2027 professional services revenue was a record $19.6 million, one nine, despite a big drop-off in customer-paid product development related services revenue, as those major projects are now past the coding phase and in the implementation stage. In addition, our services implement efficiencies have improved significantly due to the modernized solutions becoming exponentially easier to implement and through greater use of AI tools, which is a very good thing for us. We are now selling more software for every dollar of services sold, which is another good leading indicator of a maturing modern technology-based enterprise software business unit that is becoming more competitive even in price-sensitive markets. We expect professional services revenue to remain around current levels during the rest of this fiscal year and continue to grow in the medium and long term as the overall business continues to expand.
Speaker #3: In addition, our services implementation efficiencies have improved significantly due to the modernized solutions becoming exponentially easier to implement, and through greater use of AI tools, which is a very good thing for us.
Speaker #3: We are now selling more software for every dollar of services sold, which is another good leading indicator of a maturing, modern, technology-based enterprise software business unit that is becoming more competitive, even in price-sensitive markets.
Speaker #3: We expect professional services revenue to remain around current levels during the rest of this fiscal year, and to continue to grow in the medium and long term as the overall business continues to expand.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Despite excellent improvements in project implementation levels during the quarter and record implementation services revenue, strong sales success drove combined product services and recurring revenue backlog to record levels, giving us good ongoing revenue visibility. We continue to exclude the ongoing large PMS rollout from backlog calculations. Q1 fiscal 2027 profitability was above our expectations going into the quarter and fiscal year. Gross margin of $55.7 million is a record for any quarter in absolute dollar terms. An adjusted EBITDA of 20.8% of revenue made this quarter the most profitable Q1 April to June period in our history. Given the better-than-expected start to the fiscal year, we are raising revenue guidance levels for fiscal 2027. We now expect full fiscal year revenue to be in the range of $368 to $373 million, compared to the $365 to $370 million guidance provided a couple of months ago.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Despite excellent improvements in project implementation levels during the quarter and record implementation services revenue, strong sales success drove combined product services and recurring revenue backlog to record levels, giving us good ongoing revenue visibility. We continue to exclude the ongoing large PMS rollout from backlog calculations. Q1 fiscal 2027 profitability was above our expectations going into the quarter and fiscal year. Gross margin of $55.7 million is a record for any quarter in absolute dollar terms. An adjusted EBITDA of 20.8% of revenue made this quarter the most profitable Q1 April to June period in our history. Given the better-than-expected start to the fiscal year, we are raising revenue guidance levels for fiscal 2027. We now expect full fiscal year revenue to be in the range of $368 to $373 million, compared to the $365 to $370 million guidance provided a couple of months ago.
Speaker #3: Despite excellent improvements in project implementation levels during the quarter and record implementation services revenue, strong sales success drove combined product, services, and recurring revenue backlog to record levels, giving us good ongoing revenue visibility.
Speaker #3: We continue to exclude the large, ongoing PMS rollout from backlog calculations. Q1 fiscal 2027 profitability was above our expectations going into the quarter and fiscal year.
Speaker #3: Gross margin of $55.7 million is a record for any quarter in absolute dollar terms. An adjusted EBITDA of 20.8 percent of revenue made this quarter the most profitable Q1, April to June period, in history.
Speaker #3: Given the better-than-expected start to the fiscal year, we are raising revenue guidance levels for fiscal 2027. We now expect full fiscal year revenue to be in the range of $368 million to $373 million, compared to the $365 million to $370 million guidance provided a couple of months ago.
Speaker #3: The new guidance implies an overall revenue growth level of 15 to 17 percent—that is, one-five to one-seven—of 15 to 17 percent. We are also raising the guidance level for full-year subscription revenue growth to be at least 32 percent, compared to the prior minimum 30 percent—that is, three-zero—30 percent expectation.
Ramesh Srinivasan: The new guidance implies an overall revenue growth level of 15% to 17%. That is 1-5 to 1-7, of 15% to 17%. We are also raising the guidance level for full year subscription revenue growth to be at least 32% compared to the prior minimum 30%, 3-0, 30% expectation. Given the good profitability start to the year, we have increased confidence that full year profitability adjusted EBITDA by revenue, even after accounting for any potential additional strategic investment needs that might emerge during the rest of the fiscal year, will work out to be 24%, in line with the guidance provided earlier. We continue to expect the adjusted EBITDA by revenue FY27 exit rate during Q4 to be close to the 30%, 3-0, 30% mark. With that, let me hand over the call to Dave for further color on financial and other operational execution details.
Ramesh Srinivasan: The new guidance implies an overall revenue growth level of 15% to 17%. That is 1-5 to 1-7, of 15% to 17%. We are also raising the guidance level for full year subscription revenue growth to be at least 32% compared to the prior minimum 30%, 3-0, 30% expectation. Given the good profitability start to the year, we have increased confidence that full year profitability adjusted EBITDA by revenue, even after accounting for any potential additional strategic investment needs that might emerge during the rest of the fiscal year, will work out to be 24%, in line with the guidance provided earlier. We continue to expect the adjusted EBITDA by revenue FY27 exit rate during Q4 to be close to the 30%, 3-0, 30% mark. With that, let me hand over the call to Dave for further color on financial and other operational execution details.
Speaker #3: Given the good profitability start to the year, we have increased confidence that full-year profitability, adjusted EBITDA by revenue, even after accounting for any potential additional strategic investment needs that might emerge during the rest of the fiscal year, will work out to be 24%, in line with the guidance provided earlier.
Speaker #3: We continue to expect the adjusted EBITDA by revenue FY27 exit rate during Q4 to be close to the 30 percent—three-zero—30 percent mark.
Speaker #3: With that, let me hand over the call to Dave for further color on financial and other operational execution details.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Ramesh. Taking a look at our financial results, beginning with the income statement, first quarter fiscal 2027 revenue was a quarterly record of $87.7 million.
Dave Wood: Thank you, Ramesh. Taking a look at our financial results, beginning with the income statement. Q1 fiscal 2027 revenue was a quarterly record of $87.7 million, a 14.3% increase from total net revenue of $76.7 million in the comparable prior year period. Q1 represented another quarter of strong momentum in the business. Sales levels were at Q1 all-time high. Total backlog, when excluding the large PMS rollout, remains at record levels, and Q1 revenue was better than we expected just a couple months ago. Professional services increased 8.3% over the prior year quarter to a record $19.6 million. We are pleased to see our professional services gross margin remain above the 30% mark for the second consecutive quarter at 35.4%.
Dave Wood: Thank you, Ramesh. Taking a look at our financial results, beginning with the income statement. Q1 fiscal 2027 revenue was a quarterly record of $87.7 million, a 14.3% increase from total net revenue of $76.7 million in the comparable prior year period. Q1 represented another quarter of strong momentum in the business. Sales levels were at Q1 all-time high. Total backlog, when excluding the large PMS rollout, remains at record levels, and Q1 revenue was better than we expected just a couple months ago. Professional services increased 8.3% over the prior year quarter to a record $19.6 million. We are pleased to see our professional services gross margin remain above the 30% mark for the second consecutive quarter at 35.4%.
Speaker #1: A 14.3 percent increase from total net revenue of $76.7 million in the comparable prior-year period. Q1 represented another quarter of strong momentum in the business.
Speaker #1: Sales levels were at a first-quarter all-time high. Total backlog, when excluding the large PMS rollout, remains at record levels, and Q1 revenue was better than we expected just a couple of months ago.
Speaker #1: Professional services increased 8.3 percent over the prior year quarter to a record $19.6 million. We are pleased to see our professional services gross margin remain above the 30 percent mark for the second consecutive quarter, at 35.4 percent.
Speaker #1: Total recurring revenue represented 65.9% of total net revenue for the first quarter of fiscal 2027, compared to 63.4% of total net revenue in the first quarter of fiscal 2026.
Dave Wood: Total recurring revenue represented 65.9% of total net revenue for the fiscal 2027 Q1, compared to 63.4% of total net revenue in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. As expected, recurring revenue continues to become a growing portion of top-line revenue and a meaningful contributor to gross margin and profitability expansion. Subscription revenue growth during the Q1 of fiscal 2027 was better than expected at 26.1%. Subscription sales and backlog levels, while maintaining low customer churn, have us set up well for execution on our FY27 plan. Moving down the income statement. Gross profit was $55.7 million compared to $47.3 million in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. Gross profit margin was 63.5% compared to 61.7% in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. Product mix will continue to drive gross margin to the mid to high 60% range.
Dave Wood: Total recurring revenue represented 65.9% of total net revenue for the fiscal 2027 Q1, compared to 63.4% of total net revenue in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. As expected, recurring revenue continues to become a growing portion of top-line revenue and a meaningful contributor to gross margin and profitability expansion. Subscription revenue growth during the Q1 of fiscal 2027 was better than expected at 26.1%. Subscription sales and backlog levels, while maintaining low customer churn, have us set up well for execution on our FY27 plan. Moving down the income statement. Gross profit was $55.7 million compared to $47.3 million in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. Gross profit margin was 63.5% compared to 61.7% in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. Product mix will continue to drive gross margin to the mid to high 60% range.
Speaker #1: As expected, recurring revenue continues to become a growing portion of top-line revenue, and a meaningful contributor to gross margin and profitability expansion. Subscription revenue growth during the first quarter of fiscal 2027 was better than expected at 26.1%.
Speaker #1: Subscription sales and backlog levels, while maintaining low customer churn, have us set up well for execution on our FY27 plan. Moving down the income statement, gross profit was $55.7 million compared to $47.3 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026.
Speaker #1: Gross profit margin was 63.5 percent, compared to 61.7 percent in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Product mix will continue to drive gross margin to the mid- to high-60 percent range.
Speaker #1: Combined, the three main operating expense line items—product development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses, excluding stock-based compensation—were 42.8% of revenue in the fiscal 2027 first quarter, compared to 45.6% of revenue in the prior year quarter.
Dave Wood: Combined, the three main operating expense line items, product development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses excluding stock-based compensation, were 42.8% of revenue in the fiscal 2027 Q1, compared to 45.6% of revenue in the prior year Q1. Operating income for Q1 FY27 of $9.7 million, net income of $9 million, and gain per diluted share of $0.32 are well above the prior year gains of $4.5 million, $4.9 million, and $0.17. Adjusted net income normalizing for certain non-cash and non-recurring charges of $14 million compares favorably to adjusted net income of $9.3 million in the prior year period, and adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.49 compares favorably to $0.33. For the fiscal 2027 Q1, adjusted EBITDA was $18.3 million compared to $12.5 million in the year ago Q1.
Dave Wood: Combined, the three main operating expense line items, product development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses excluding stock-based compensation, were 42.8% of revenue in the fiscal 2027 Q1, compared to 45.6% of revenue in the prior year Q1. Operating income for Q1 FY27 of $9.7 million, net income of $9 million, and gain per diluted share of $0.32 are well above the prior year gains of $4.5 million, $4.9 million, and $0.17. Adjusted net income normalizing for certain non-cash and non-recurring charges of $14 million compares favorably to adjusted net income of $9.3 million in the prior year period, and adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.49 compares favorably to $0.33. For the fiscal 2027 Q1, adjusted EBITDA was $18.3 million compared to $12.5 million in the year ago Q1.
Speaker #1: Operating income for Q1 FY27 of $9.7 million, net income of $9 million, and gain per diluted share of $0.32 are well above the prior year gains of $4.5 million, $4.9 million, and $0.17.
Speaker #1: Adjusted net income, normalizing for certain non-cash and non-recurring charges, of $14 million compares favorably to adjusted net income of $9.3 million in the prior year period. Adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.49 compares favorably to $0.33.
Speaker #1: For the fiscal 2027 first quarter, adjusted EBITDA was $18.3 million compared to $12.5 million in the year-ago quarter. We are pleased to see our profitability levels end up well ahead of the original FY27 plan for Q1, with adjusted EBITDA coming in at 20.8 percent of revenue.
Dave Wood: We are pleased to see our profitability levels end up well ahead of the original FY27 plan for Q1, with adjusted EBITDA coming in at 20.8% of revenue. Adjusted EBITDA performed very strongly on the back of higher than anticipated recurring revenue levels while operating costs were in line with our expectations. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow statements. Cash and marketable securities as of 30 June 2026, were $123.7 million, compared to $116.9 million on 31 March 2026. We remain comfortable with our current levels of cash. As it relates to free cash flow, we are pleased to see an increase for the Q1. Free cash flow in the quarter was $7.3 million, compared to a loss of $5 million in the prior year Q1.
Dave Wood: We are pleased to see our profitability levels end up well ahead of the original FY27 plan for Q1, with adjusted EBITDA coming in at 20.8% of revenue. Adjusted EBITDA performed very strongly on the back of higher than anticipated recurring revenue levels while operating costs were in line with our expectations. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow statements. Cash and marketable securities as of 30 June 2026, were $123.7 million, compared to $116.9 million on 31 March 2026. We remain comfortable with our current levels of cash. As it relates to free cash flow, we are pleased to see an increase for the Q1. Free cash flow in the quarter was $7.3 million, compared to a loss of $5 million in the prior year Q1.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA performed very strongly on the back of higher-than-anticipated recurring revenue levels, while operating costs were in line with our expectations. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow statements, cash and marketable securities as of June 30, 2026, were $123.7 million, compared to $116.9 million on March 31, 2026.
Speaker #1: We remain comfortable with our current levels of cash. As it relates to free cash flow, we are pleased to see an increase for the first fiscal quarter.
Speaker #1: Free cash flow in the quarter was $7.3 million, compared to a loss of $5 million in the prior year quarter. As a reminder, free cash flow is typically lower in the first half of the year due to working capital adjustments that normalize throughout the fiscal year.
Dave Wood: As a reminder, free cash flow is typically lower in the H1 of the year due to working capital adjustments that normalize throughout the fiscal year. Adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow, after normalizing the impact of CapEx, continue to be comparable and good proxies for health of the business over a fiscal year. For fiscal year 2027, we are raising our revenue guidance to be in the $368 to $373 million range. We expect product revenue to remain flat and continue to trend around $10 million per quarter or $40 million for the year. Professional services started strong and is still expected to grow in the 5% to 10% range for the year. We are raising our subscription revenue growth guidance from 30% to at least 32% for the year due to faster deployment of the backlog than anticipated in the original guidance.
Dave Wood: As a reminder, free cash flow is typically lower in the H1 of the year due to working capital adjustments that normalize throughout the fiscal year. Adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow, after normalizing the impact of CapEx, continue to be comparable and good proxies for health of the business over a fiscal year. For fiscal year 2027, we are raising our revenue guidance to be in the $368 to $373 million range. We expect product revenue to remain flat and continue to trend around $10 million per quarter or $40 million for the year. Professional services started strong and is still expected to grow in the 5% to 10% range for the year. We are raising our subscription revenue growth guidance from 30% to at least 32% for the year due to faster deployment of the backlog than anticipated in the original guidance.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow, after normalizing the impacted CapEx, continue to be comparable and good proxies for the health of the business over a fiscal year.
Speaker #1: For fiscal year 2027, we are raising our revenue guidance to be in the $368 to $373 million range. We expect product revenue to remain flat and continue to trend around $10 million per quarter, or $40 million for the year.
Speaker #1: Professional services started strong and is still expected to grow in the 5% to 10% range for the year. We are raising our subscription revenue growth guidance from 30% to at least 32% for the year, due to faster deployment of the backlog than anticipated in the original guidance.
Speaker #1: Subscription revenue growth in fiscal Q2 should be close to the 30 percent growth range and continue to accelerate during Q3 and Q4. With respect to adjusted EBITDA, guidance will remain at 24 percent of revenue even though Q1 profitability was better than expected.
Dave Wood: Subscription revenue growth in Q2 should be close to 30% growth range and continue to accelerate during Q3 and Q4. With respect to adjusted EBITDA, guidance will remain at 24% of revenue even though Q1 profitability was better than expected. We still expect to exit FY27 at nearly 30% of revenue. Adjusted EBITDA excludes stock-based compensation, which will continue to be in the 5% to 7% range for the year. In closing, Q1 represented an extremely strong start to the fiscal year, leaving us with plenty of visibility into the remainder of the year. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Ramesh.
Dave Wood: Subscription revenue growth in Q2 should be close to 30% growth range and continue to accelerate during Q3 and Q4. With respect to adjusted EBITDA, guidance will remain at 24% of revenue even though Q1 profitability was better than expected. We still expect to exit FY27 at nearly 30% of revenue. Adjusted EBITDA excludes stock-based compensation, which will continue to be in the 5% to 7% range for the year. In closing, Q1 represented an extremely strong start to the fiscal year, leaving us with plenty of visibility into the remainder of the year. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Ramesh.
Speaker #1: We still expect to exit FY27 at nearly 30% of revenue. Adjusted EBITDA excludes stock-based compensation, which will continue to be in the 5% to 7% range for the year.
Speaker #1: In closing, Q1 represented an extremely strong start to the fiscal year, leaving us with plenty of visibility into the remainder of the year. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Ramesh.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Dave. In summary, we are off to an excellent start to the fiscal year, which has given us sufficient confidence in our business health to be able to raise revenue guidance levels.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Dave. In summary, we are off to an excellent start to the fiscal year, which has given us sufficient confidence in our business health to be able to raise revenue guidance levels. The Marriott PMS project continues to make very good progress. Other customer stories of real, tangible value gained from switching to and using the Agilysys ecosystem of hospitality solutions are increasing both in quality and quantity. The availability of AI tools came at just the right time for us. We continue to release AI-based features at a steady rate with appropriate guardrails and control mechanisms in place, further augmenting the value of the modern ecosystem of hospitality-focused software solutions that have been built diligently over the past several years. The hospitality industry is showing every sign of being hungry for such a modern, AI-enriched, interconnected ecosystem of software solutions.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Dave. In summary, we are off to an excellent start to the fiscal year, which has given us sufficient confidence in our business health to be able to raise revenue guidance levels. The Marriott PMS project continues to make very good progress. Other customer stories of real, tangible value gained from switching to and using the Agilysys ecosystem of hospitality solutions are increasing both in quality and quantity. The availability of AI tools came at just the right time for us. We continue to release AI-based features at a steady rate with appropriate guardrails and control mechanisms in place, further augmenting the value of the modern ecosystem of hospitality-focused software solutions that have been built diligently over the past several years. The hospitality industry is showing every sign of being hungry for such a modern, AI-enriched, interconnected ecosystem of software solutions.
Speaker #2: The Marriott PMS project continues to make very good progress. Other customers’ stories of real, tangible value gained from switching to and using the Agilysys ecosystem of hospitality solutions are increasing both in quality and quantity.
Speaker #2: The availability of AI tools came at just the right time for us. We continue to release AI-based features at a steady rate, with appropriate guardrails and control mechanisms in place, further augmenting the value of the modern ecosystem of hospitality-focused software solutions that have been built diligently over the past several years.
Speaker #2: The hospitality industry is showing every sign of being hungry for such a modern, AI-enriched, interconnected ecosystem of software solutions. Being focused only on the huge total addressable market of hospitality, with no other distraction or competing investment objectives, is also turning out to be a significant competitive advantage for us.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Being focused only on the huge total addressable market of hospitality with no other distraction or competing investment objectives is also turning out to be a significant competitive advantage for us. Our competitive positioning continues to get better, as is reflected in the sales and revenue results. Many of the operational and revenue improvements customers have made recently through use of various modules within the ecosystem cannot be replicated by our competition anytime soon. The competitive advantages being built are based on a strong modern technology ecosystem foundation that is going to remain difficult to recreate for the foreseeable future by the competition, with or without the help of AI tools. Overall, we continue to be very well-positioned for continued disciplined revenue and profitability growth. With that, Lisa, let's open up the call for questions, please.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Being focused only on the huge total addressable market of hospitality with no other distraction or competing investment objectives is also turning out to be a significant competitive advantage for us. Our competitive positioning continues to get better, as is reflected in the sales and revenue results. Many of the operational and revenue improvements customers have made recently through use of various modules within the ecosystem cannot be replicated by our competition anytime soon. The competitive advantages being built are based on a strong modern technology ecosystem foundation that is going to remain difficult to recreate for the foreseeable future by the competition, with or without the help of AI tools. Overall, we continue to be very well-positioned for continued disciplined revenue and profitability growth. With that, Lisa, let's open up the call for questions, please.
Speaker #2: Our competitive positioning continues to get better, as is reflected in the sales and revenue results. Many of the operational and revenue improvements customers have made recently, through use of various modules within the ecosystem, cannot be replicated by our competition any time soon.
Speaker #2: The competitive advantages being built are based on a strong, modern technology ecosystem foundation that is going to remain difficult to recreate for the foreseeable future by the competition, with or without the help of AI tools.
Speaker #2: Overall, we continue to be very well positioned for continued, disciplined revenue and profitability growth. With that, Lisa, let's open up the call for questions, please.
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Speaker #4: Thank you, Ramesh. Nice results. So we now have a couple of tangible examples—Marriott and the Australian deal—where you weren't included in the original mix, but once you got in front of them, you were able to win the business.
George Sutton: Thank you, Ramesh. Nice results. We now have a couple of tangible examples, Marriott and the Australian deal, where you weren't included in the original mix, but once you got in front of them, you were able to win the business. Can you just talk about how common it is that you're not getting invited into these mixes and how are we trying to squeeze that percentage down?
George Sutton: Thank you, Ramesh. Nice results. We now have a couple of tangible examples, Marriott and the Australian deal, where you weren't included in the original mix, but once you got in front of them, you were able to win the business. Can you just talk about how common it is that you're not getting invited into these mixes and how are we trying to squeeze that percentage down?
Speaker #4: Can you just talk about how common it is that you're not getting invited into these mixes, and how are we trying to squeeze that percentage down?
Ramesh Srinivasan: Hi, George. That percentage of us not getting included in RFPs is very low with POS, like we already know. With respect to PMS, I would say that percentage is going really down in domestic regions, US, Canada, but still remains uncomfortably high in Europe and Asia Pacific. That percentage is beginning to reduce now with more and more good stories about customers using our PMS and the other add-on modules, and getting good results. That percentage is going down, but is still higher than what we would like in Asia Pacific and EMEA.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Hi, George. That percentage of us not getting included in RFPs is very low with POS, like we already know. With respect to PMS, I would say that percentage is going really down in domestic regions, US, Canada, but still remains uncomfortably high in Europe and Asia-Pacific. That percentage is beginning to reduce now with more and more good stories about customers using our PMS and the other add-on modules, and getting good results. That percentage is going down, but is still higher than what we would like in Asia-Pacific and EMEA.
Speaker #2: That percentage—hi, George—that percentage of us not getting included in RFPs is very low with POS, like we already know. But with respect to PMS, I would say that percentage is going really down in domestic regions—US, Canada.
Speaker #2: But it still remains uncomfortably high in Europe and APAC, and that percentage is beginning to reduce now with more and more good stories about customers using our PMS and getting PMS and the other add-on modules, and getting good results.
Speaker #2: So that percentage is going down, but it's still higher than what we would like in APAC and India.
Speaker #4: Understood. You gave a little bit of a hint, I think, regarding expenses as the year goes on. You're including in the guidance the potential for some strategic investments.
George Sutton: Understand. You gave a little bit of a hint, I think, relative to expenses as the year goes on. You are including in the guidance the potential for some strategic investments, I am wondering if you are highlighting potentially accelerated work on CRS or RMS, or was there something else that might account for those strategic investments?
George Sutton: Understand. You gave a little bit of a hint, I think, relative to expenses as the year goes on. You are including in the guidance the potential for some strategic investments, I am wondering if you are highlighting potentially accelerated work on CRS or RMS, or was there something else that might account for those strategic investments?
Speaker #4: And I'm wondering if you're highlighting potentially accelerated work on CRS or RMS, or was there something else that might account for those strategic investments?
Ramesh Srinivasan: Not trying to indicate any particular investments. With the AI tools that we now have, we do not expect any significant quantum investments, quantum increase in headcount or any other investment for CRS, Revenue Intelligence, or for any of the other products, or if we win another major deal. We do not expect any more of those quantum jumps that we needed to do with our cost in the past. I think our costs will grow up incrementally as required in sales, services, R&D, and other areas. We were not trying to hint at anything in particular, George. All we were trying to say is we are comfortable with the 24% adjusted EBITDA by revenue, even if here and there something pops up, we do not expect us to change that number.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Not trying to indicate any particular investments. With the AI tools that we now have, we do not expect any significant quantum investments, quantum increase in headcount or any other investment for CRS, Revenue Intelligence, or for any of the other products, or if we win another major deal. We do not expect any more of those quantum jumps that we needed to do with our cost in the past. I think our costs will grow up incrementally as required in sales, services, R&D, and other areas. We were not trying to hint at anything in particular, George. All we were trying to say is we are comfortable with the 24% adjusted EBITDA by revenue, even if here and there something pops up, we do not expect us to change that number.
Speaker #2: Not trying to indicate any particular investments. With AI, the AI tools that we now have, we don't expect any significant quantum investments, quantum increase in headcount, or any other investment for CRS revenue intelligence or for any of the other products, or if we win another major deal.
Speaker #2: We don't expect any more of those quantum jumps that we needed to do with our cost in the past. I think our cost will go up incrementally as required in sales, services, R&D, and other areas.
Speaker #2: So, I was not trying to—we were not trying to—hint at anything in particular, George. All we were trying to say is we are comfortable with the 24% adjusted EBITDA by revenue.
Speaker #2: And even if here and there something pops up, we don't expect to change that number.
Speaker #4: Understood. I appreciate the answers. Thank you.
George Sutton: Understand. Appreciate the answers. Thank you.
George Sutton: Understand. Appreciate the answers. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, George.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Josh.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, George.
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Speaker #4: Thank you. Good evening. Ramesh, regarding the comment about the backlog converting faster, which drove the upside this quarter and also the raised guidance, would you be able to unpack how much of that is from the Marriott PMS rollout going better than planned versus how much of it is coming from the ramp-up of other accounts outside of Marriott?
Mayank Tandon: Thank you. Good evening. Ramesh, regarding the comment about the backlog converting faster, which drove the upside this quarter and also the raised guidance, would you be able to unpack how much of that is from the Marriott PMS rollout going better than planned versus how much of it is coming from the ramp-up of other accounts outside of Marriott? Just trying to separate the impact of these two drivers of the model. If there is upside to the model going forward, what is that source of upside potentially? Is it going to be continued backlog conversion on the core, or would it really come from the Marriott rollout going better than planned?
Mayank Tandon: Thank you. Good evening. Ramesh, regarding the comment about the backlog converting faster, which drove the upside this quarter and also the raised guidance, would you be able to unpack how much of that is from the Marriott PMS rollout going better than planned versus how much of it is coming from the ramp-up of other accounts outside of Marriott? Just trying to separate the impact of these two drivers of the model. If there is upside to the model going forward, what is that source of upside potentially? Is it going to be continued backlog conversion on the core, or would it really come from the Marriott rollout going better than planned?
Speaker #4: I'm just trying to separate the impact of these two drivers on the model. And if there's upside to the model going forward, what is the potential source of that upside?
Speaker #4: Is it going to be continued backlog conversion on the core, or would it really come from the Marriott rollout going better than planned?
Speaker #2: If we are not trying to differentiate between the two, Mac, when we said so, let's just break this down. The numbers are going up because of better sales performance.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We are not trying to differentiate between the two, Mayank. Let's just break this down. The numbers are going up because of better sales performance. We are selling more to current customers and to new customers. That's the main reason for us, the numbers going up. By backlog conversion, what we mean is a general improvement in implementation services efficiency. Our modernized products have been now in the market for, say, one and a half to four years or so. They are becoming easier and easier to get implemented. That is the general backlog conversion we were talking about. As far as the Marriott project is concerned, Mayank, it is going on plan. It is going per schedule. Quality of the project-wise, it's making excellent progress. Everything is going according to schedule.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We are not trying to differentiate between the two, Mayank. Let's just break this down. The numbers are going up because of better sales performance. We are selling more to current customers and to new customers. That's the main reason for us, the numbers going up. By backlog conversion, what we mean is a general improvement in implementation services efficiency. Our modernized products have been now in the market for, say, one and a half to four years or so. They are becoming easier and easier to get implemented. That is the general backlog conversion we were talking about. As far as the Marriott project is concerned, Mayank, it is going on plan. It is going per schedule. Quality of the project-wise, it's making excellent progress. Everything is going according to schedule.
Speaker #2: We are selling more to current customers and to new customers, so that's the main reason the numbers are going up. As for backlog conversion, what we mean is a general improvement in implementation services efficiency.
Speaker #2: Our modernized products have now been in the market for, say, one and a half to four years or so. So, they are becoming easier and easier to get implemented.
Speaker #2: So that is the general backlog conversion we were talking about. And as far as the Marriott project is concerned, Mac, it is going as planned.
Speaker #2: It is going per schedule. The quality of the project-wise is making excellent progress, so everything is going according to schedule. By backlog conversion, what we mean is the implementations are going quicker now after the sale, even if it is a complex ecosystem sale, because the products are settling down quite well.
Ramesh Srinivasan: By backlog conversion, what we mean is the implementations are going quicker now after the sale, even if it is a complex ecosystem sale, because the products are settling down quite well. The main reason for the numbers going up, I would say, is better than expected sales success, and everything else is becoming more efficient in the organization as well.
Ramesh Srinivasan: By backlog conversion, what we mean is the implementations are going quicker now after the sale, even if it is a complex ecosystem sale, because the products are settling down quite well. The main reason for the numbers going up, I would say, is better than expected sales success, and everything else is becoming more efficient in the organization as well.
Speaker #2: But the main reason for the numbers going up, I would say, is better-than-expected sales success. And everything else is becoming more efficient in the organization as well.
Speaker #4: Got it. I had to try to ask, but I appreciate the response. Also, I wanted to just ask you about the international side. Given this flagship win in Australia, is this a precursor to maybe more such large property wins?
Mayank Tandon: Got it. I had to try to ask. No, I appreciate the response. I wanted to just ask you about the international, given this flagship win in Australia. Is this a precursor to maybe more such large property wins? I know in the past you've talked about the challenge being getting your name out. I'm just curious if you're seeing any signs across not only Asia Pacific, but the broader international market that gives you comfort that this could be maybe more of a catalyst going forward in terms of winning large multi-product opportunities like the one you did in Australia.
Mayank Tandon: Got it. I had to try to ask. No, I appreciate the response. I wanted to just ask you about the international, given this flagship win in Australia. Is this a precursor to maybe more such large property wins? I know in the past you've talked about the challenge being getting your name out. I'm just curious if you're seeing any signs across not only Asia-Pacific, but the broader international market that gives you comfort that this could be maybe more of a catalyst going forward in terms of winning large multi-product opportunities like the one you did in Australia.
Speaker #4: I know in the past you've talked about the challenge being getting your name out. So, I'm just curious if you're seeing any signs across not only Asia Pacific but the broader international market that give you comfort that this could be maybe more of a catalyst going forward, in terms of winning large multi-product opportunities like the one you did in Australia.
Speaker #2: Yes, Mac. Each one of these wins does form a catalyst in itself. In fact, the reason why we won this particular deal is because of a previous big deal we had won in Australia, and that previous customer had good visibility to our products and ecosystem and the gains they are getting from their pilot properties going live.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Yes, Mayank. Each one of these wins does form a catalyst in itself. In fact, the reason why we won this particular deal is because a previous big deal we had won in Australia, that previous customer had good visibility to our products and ecosystem and the gains they are getting from their pilot properties going live. It is their recommendation that even got us into the gate here. Each one of these big wins, whether in Australia or whether in any other place, does create a catalyst effect because the products are now at a stage where they actually create good value for them. It is real, that it creates real value for them, they are able to talk about it to other customers. That definitely helps.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Yes, Mayank. Each one of these wins does form a catalyst in itself. In fact, the reason why we won this particular deal is because a previous big deal we had won in Australia, that previous customer had good visibility to our products and ecosystem and the gains they are getting from their pilot properties going live. It is their recommendation that even got us into the gate here. Each one of these big wins, whether in Australia or whether in any other place, does create a catalyst effect because the products are now at a stage where they actually create good value for them. It is real, that it creates real value for them, they are able to talk about it to other customers. That definitely helps.
Speaker #2: So it is their recommendation that even got us into the gate here. So each one of these big wins, whether in Australia or in any other place, does create a catalyst effect.
Speaker #2: Because the products are now at a stage where they actually create good value for them. So it is real that it creates real value for them, so they are able to talk about it to other customers.
Speaker #2: That definitely helps. So, all of this will continue, one upon the other, to speed up. But we just need a lot more of this now.
Ramesh Srinivasan: All this will continue one upon the other to speed up, we just need a lot more of this. Now, in terms of concerning international markets, it still remains, Mayank, that we don't have enough singles and doubles. We need to increase that as well. These large deals, definitely one upon the other, have an exponentially increasing effect.
Ramesh Srinivasan: All this will continue one upon the other to speed up, we just need a lot more of this. Now, in terms of concerning international markets, it still remains, Mayank, that we don't have enough singles and doubles. We need to increase that as well. These large deals, definitely one upon the other, have an exponentially increasing effect.
Speaker #2: In terms of concerns about international markets, it still remains, Mac, that we don't have enough singles and doubles. We need to increase that as well.
Speaker #2: But these large deals, definitely—one upon the other—have an exponentially increasing effect.
Speaker #4: Understood. Very helpful. Thank you so much, Ramesh.
Mayank Tandon: Understood. Very helpful. Thank you so much, Ramesh.
Mayank Tandon: Understood. Very helpful. Thank you so much, Ramesh.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Mac.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Mayank.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Mayank.
Speaker #3: Thank you. One moment, please, for the next question. The next question is coming from the line of Matthew Vanvellet of Cantor. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Nice job on the quarter. I guess first, going back to the commentary that property management was ahead of POS for the first time.
Matthew VanVliet: Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Nice job on the quarter. First, going back to the commentary that property management was ahead of POS for the first time. How much of that was the contribution from Marriott included there? How much, if any, of the raised guidance for the year is just maybe Marriott being slightly ahead of progress, in terms of revenue contribution than what you were originally expecting?
Matthew VanVliet: Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Nice job on the quarter. First, going back to the commentary that property management was ahead of POS for the first time. How much of that was the contribution from Marriott included there? How much, if any, of the raised guidance for the year is just maybe Marriott being slightly ahead of progress, in terms of revenue contribution than what you were originally expecting?
Speaker #4: I guess, how much of that was the contribution from Marriott included there? And then, how much, if any, of the raised guidance for the year is just maybe Marriott being slightly ahead of progress in terms of revenue contribution compared to what you were originally expecting?
Ramesh Srinivasan: The Marriott project did contribute, no question, Matt, we are not breaking down that number. PMS and PMS-related add-on modules, the subscription revenue that we get from that has been increasing over a period of time. We have shown 30%-plus year-over-year percentage improvement for a while now, for quite a few quarters, even before the Marriott project really started going up. Marriott definitely contributed, no question about it. The momentum that we have with PMS and related modules has been happening for quite some time now, even before these projects started. I think it's a general trend because PMS carries with it a lot more add-on modules, about 15 to 20 of them, while around POS, we have about 4 or 5 add-on modules. It stands to reason that subscription revenue increases in PMS is going to happen more and more.
Ramesh Srinivasan: The Marriott project did contribute, no question, Matt, we are not breaking down that number. PMS and PMS-related add-on modules, the subscription revenue that we get from that has been increasing over a period of time. We have shown 30%-plus year-over-year percentage improvement for a while now, for quite a few quarters, even before the Marriott project really started going up. Marriott definitely contributed, no question about it. The momentum that we have with PMS and related modules has been happening for quite some time now, even before these projects started. I think it's a general trend because PMS carries with it a lot more add-on modules, about 15 to 20 of them, while around POS, we have about 4 or 5 add-on modules. It stands to reason that subscription revenue increases in PMS is going to happen more and more.
Speaker #2: The Marriott project did contribute, no question, Mac. But we are not breaking down that number. PMS and PMS-related add-on modules—the subscription revenue that we get from that has been increasing over a period of time.
Speaker #2: We have shown 30-plus percent year-over-year improvements for a while now, for quite a few quarters, even before the Marriott project really started going up.
Speaker #2: Marriott definitely contributed, no question about it. But the momentum that we have with PMS and related modules has been happening for quite some time now, even before these projects started.
Speaker #2: So I think it's a general trend because PMS carries with it a lot more add-on modules, about 15 to 20 of them, while around POS, we have about four or five add-on modules.
Speaker #2: So, it stands to reason that subscription revenue increases in PMS are going to happen more and more. And also, in PMS, we start with a very low market share, Mac.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Also in PMS, we start with a very low market share, Matt. You should expect the PMS increases are due not only to Marriott but to all the other projects that are going on as well.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Also in PMS, we start with a very low market share, Matt. You should expect the PMS increases are due not only to Marriott but to all the other projects that are going on as well.
Speaker #2: So you should expect the PMS increases are due not only to Marriott but to all the other products that are going on as well.
Matthew VanVliet: Helpful. Then, as you looked at some of the investments you've made around the implementation team and the broader professional services group, from both headcount and process improvements over the last few years, I guess, how much are those contributing to the ability to grow that revenue, even as the wind down of the one-off projects around Marriott as sort of part A and part B? Is there an inclination to add more capacity there given you're at record backlog now, and bookings continue to have such strong momentum? Do you need additional headcount, or is this just the normal cadence of project timing, and with that is just a reflection of booking success more so than needing to invest additional headcount?
Matthew VanVliet: Helpful. Then, as you looked at some of the investments you've made around the implementation team and the broader professional services group, from both headcount and process improvements over the last few years, I guess, how much are those contributing to the ability to grow that revenue, even as the wind down of the one-off projects around Marriott as sort of part A and part B? Is there an inclination to add more capacity there given you're at record backlog now, and bookings continue to have such strong momentum? Do you need additional headcount, or is this just the normal cadence of project timing, and with that is just a reflection of booking success more so than needing to invest additional headcount?
Speaker #4: Oh, Paul. And then, I guess as you look at some of the investments you've made around the implementation team and the broader professional services group, from both headcount and process improvements over the last few years, how much are those contributing to the ability to grow that revenue, even as the wind-down of the one-off projects around Marriott? That's sort of part A. And part B—?
Speaker #4: Is there an inclination to add more capacity there, given your at-record backlog now, and bookings continue to have such strong momentum? Do you need additional headcount, or is this just the normal cadence of project timing—and with that, is it just a reflection of booking success more so than needing to invest in additional headcount?
Ramesh Srinivasan: Currently, we are in a good place, Matt, when it comes to headcount across all departments. Not only services, but also in sales and also in R&D and also in other areas. We are in a good position with respect to headcount and more operating leverage. We can drive more revenue, all kinds of revenue, including subscription revenue. We are in a good place to drive additional revenue, additional projects, with the kind of headcount investments we have today. We will continue doing incremental increases. That is across all departments. The business is growing, we will continue doing incremental additions to our headcount as we go along, but no quantum increases in investments are needed anymore, unlike it used to be in the past. We're in a good position now. We will continue incrementally increasing our capacity, but we don't need to do anything special.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Currently, we are in a good place, Matt, when it comes to headcount across all departments. Not only services, but also in sales and also in R&D and also in other areas. We are in a good position with respect to headcount and more operating leverage. We can drive more revenue, all kinds of revenue, including subscription revenue. We are in a good place to drive additional revenue, additional projects, with the kind of headcount investments we have today. We will continue doing incremental increases. That is across all departments. The business is growing, we will continue doing incremental additions to our headcount as we go along, but no quantum increases in investments are needed anymore, unlike it used to be in the past. We're in a good position now. We will continue incrementally increasing our capacity, but we don't need to do anything special.
Speaker #2: Currently, we are in a good place when it comes to headcount across all departments, not only services but also in sales and also in R&D and also in other areas.
Speaker #2: We are in a good position with respect to headcount and more operating leverage. We can drive more revenue across all types of revenue, including subscription revenue.
Speaker #2: We are in a good place to drive additional revenue and additional projects with the kind of headcount investments we have today. Now, we will continue doing incremental increases.
Speaker #2: That is across all departments because the business is growing. We will continue doing incremental additions to our headcount as we go along, but no quantum increases in investments are needed anymore like it used to be in the past.
Speaker #2: So we're in a good position now. We will continue incrementally increasing our capacity, but we don't need to do anything special. No major cost increases are required in order to fuel the growing success that we are having.
Ramesh Srinivasan: No major cost increases are required in order to fuel the growing success that we are having. While you think about the fact that our implementation and other efficiencies are getting better, the first thing that should come into mind is product. The product quality is so much better today compared to three, four years ago. Not only in terms of best of breed each individual product, but the strength we bring as an ecosystem of solutions that no other competitor has invested this kind of money in. Both the products individually and the ecosystem put together give us tremendous competitive advantage with which our current sales team can sell a lot more. The products are so much more well-settled in the field that our implementation teams can execute a lot faster.
Ramesh Srinivasan: No major cost increases are required in order to fuel the growing success that we are having. While you think about the fact that our implementation and other efficiencies are getting better, the first thing that should come into mind is product. The product quality is so much better today compared to three, four years ago. Not only in terms of best of breed each individual product, but the strength we bring as an ecosystem of solutions that no other competitor has invested this kind of money in. Both the products individually and the ecosystem put together give us tremendous competitive advantage with which our current sales team can sell a lot more. The products are so much more well-settled in the field that our implementation teams can execute a lot faster.
Speaker #2: Now, while you think about the fact that our implementation and other efficiencies are getting better, the first thing that should come to mind is product.
Speaker #2: The product quality is so much better today compared to three or four years ago—not only in terms of best-of-breed for each individual product, but also the strength we bring as an ecosystem of solutions that no other competitor has invested this kind of money in.
Speaker #2: So both the products individually and the ecosystem put together give us tremendous competitive advantage, with which our current sales team can sell a lot more. The products are so much more well settled in the field that our implementation teams can execute a lot faster. So, all of that starts from the product quality and the advantages it is giving us.
Ramesh Srinivasan: All of that starts from the product quality and the advantages it is giving us. To answer your question, in short, no great quantum investments are required to push it further. We will just keep doing the incremental additions as we go along.
Ramesh Srinivasan: All of that starts from the product quality and the advantages it is giving us. To answer your question, in short, no great quantum investments are required to push it further. We will just keep doing the incremental additions as we go along.
Speaker #2: So, to answer your question in short, no great, quantum investments are required to push it further. We will just keep doing the incremental additions as we go along.
Speaker #4: All right. Perfect. Thank you.
Matthew VanVliet: All right. Perfect. Thank you.
Matthew VanVliet: All right. Perfect. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you. One moment for the next question, please. The next question will come from the line of Stephen Sheldon of William Blair. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #5: Hey, thanks for taking my questions. First one here: there’s been more debate between investors on software insourcing versus outsourcing, especially with AI-supported coding efficiency that could help enterprises, arguably, build their own custom software.
Stephen Sheldon: Hey, thanks for taking my questions. First one here, just there's been more debate between investors on software insourcing versus outsourcing, especially with AI-supported coding efficiency that could help enterprises arguably build their own custom software. Ramesh, just wanted to get your take on that topic. Seems like the Marriott PMS contract that you're implementing right now would be a clear signal towards outsourcing in enterprise hospitality. How concerned are you about hospitality customers trying to build their own software stacks? Have you seen any signals that some might lean more that way in the future? Are the signals continuing towards more enterprise software outsourcing? Just would love to get your take on what you're seeing out there.
Stephen Sheldon: Hey, thanks for taking my questions. First one here, just there's been more debate between investors on software insourcing versus outsourcing, especially with AI-supported coding efficiency that could help enterprises arguably build their own custom software. Ramesh, just wanted to get your take on that topic. Seems like the Marriott PMS contract that you're implementing right now would be a clear signal towards outsourcing in enterprise hospitality. How concerned are you about hospitality customers trying to build their own software stacks? Have you seen any signals that some might lean more that way in the future? Are the signals continuing towards more enterprise software outsourcing? Just would love to get your take on what you're seeing out there.
Speaker #5: So, Ramesh, just wanted to get your take on that topic. It seems like the Marriott PMS contract that you're implementing right now would be a clear signal towards outsourcing in enterprise hospitality.
Speaker #5: But how concerned are you about hospitality customers trying to build their own software stacks? Have you seen any signals that some might lean more that way in the future?
Speaker #5: Or are the signals continuing towards more enterprise software outsourcing? I would just love to get your take on what you're seeing out there.
Speaker #2: Yes. Hi, Stephen. Now, first, I always want to be careful while answering questions about AI. I never want to sound tone-deaf. It's not as if we are not watching what is going on in the world.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Yes. Hi, Stephen. First, I always want to be careful while answering questions about AI. I never want to sound tone-deaf. It's not as if we are not watching what is going on in the world. So far, and I don't think it'll happen anytime in the foreseeable future, not seeing any signs or any signal of insourcing. I don't expect it much in enterprise software. Not just for us, Stephen, but in general, on behalf of all enterprise software technology providers, I don't expect it. For example, you take a medium-sized resort. That is using our software now. If you look at the annual recurring fees they are paying us, if you take that recurring fees and, say, invest it in creating your own team, I don't think that money is enough to pay for three developers and three testers.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Yes. Hi, Stephen. First, I always want to be careful while answering questions about AI. I never want to sound tone-deaf. It's not as if we are not watching what is going on in the world. So far, and I don't think it'll happen anytime in the foreseeable future, not seeing any signs or any signal of insourcing. I don't expect it much in enterprise software. Not just for us, Stephen, but in general, on behalf of all enterprise software technology providers, I don't expect it. For example, you take a medium-sized resort. That is using our software now. If you look at the annual recurring fees they are paying us, if you take that recurring fees and, say, invest it in creating your own team, I don't think that money is enough to pay for three developers and three testers.
Speaker #2: But so far—and I don't think it'll happen any time in the foreseeable future—I'm not seeing any signs or any signals of insourcing. And I don't expect it much in enterprise software, not just for us, Stephen, but in general, on behalf of all enterprise technology, enterprise software technology providers.
Speaker #2: I don't expect it, right? So, for example, you take a medium-sized resort, right, that is using our software now, and if you look at the annual recurring fees they are paying us—if you take those recurring fees and say, invest it in creating your own team—I don't think that money is enough to pay for three developers and three testers, right?
Speaker #2: It is not enough to do that. And, by the way, AI is not cheap. AI takes a lot of cost as well. So, that particular resort, instead of spending that relatively small amount—tens of thousands of dollars, or maybe $100,000, $200,000—instead of doing that, they get the benefit of tens of millions of dollars' worth of research by providers like us, who also use AI.
Ramesh Srinivasan: It is not enough to do that. By the way, AI is not cheap. AI takes a lot of cost as well. That particular resort, instead of spending that relatively small amount, tens of thousands of dollars, or maybe $100,000, $200,000, instead of doing that, they get the benefit of tens of millions of dollars' worth research by providers like us who also use AI. I don't think they will get into their own insourcing because it is just too big a task. It is too complex a task just for one product. You add PMS, POS, and 30 additional modules that have to work together. It's too difficult a task for such a medium-sized resort to take up. If you even go to the bigger customers, those customers need the benefit of innovation across the industry.
Ramesh Srinivasan: It is not enough to do that. By the way, AI is not cheap. AI takes a lot of cost as well. That particular resort, instead of spending that relatively small amount, tens of thousands of dollars, or maybe $100,000, $200,000, instead of doing that, they get the benefit of tens of millions of dollars' worth research by providers like us who also use AI. I don't think they will get into their own insourcing because it is just too big a task. It is too complex a task just for one product. You add PMS, POS, and 30 additional modules that have to work together. It's too difficult a task for such a medium-sized resort to take up. If you even go to the bigger customers, those customers need the benefit of innovation across the industry.
Speaker #2: So, I don't think they will get into their own insourcing because it is just too big a task. It is too complex a task.
Speaker #2: Just for one product. Now, you add PMS, POS, and 30 additional modules that have to work together—it's too difficult a task for such a medium-sized resort to take up.
Speaker #2: And if you even go to the bigger customers, those of innovation across the industry, there is no big customer who just wants the benefit of their own innovation, their own ideas.
Ramesh Srinivasan: There is no big customer who just wants the benefit of their own innovation, their own ideas. I do not think they have enough of those ideas to run. They want the benefit of what the other big customers are doing, and that is our job. That is why we spend $tens of millions gathering all the innovation ideas, putting it together in a product. A customer pays us a fraction of the cost that it takes us to create it, and they get the benefit of it. That is how enterprise software works with or without AI. So far, we are not seeing any signals. In fact, the last 6 months is the best 6-month period we have ever had with sales before. We have never had such good back-to-back good sales quarters before. We are in fact seeing opposite signals.
Ramesh Srinivasan: There is no big customer who just wants the benefit of their own innovation, their own ideas. I do not think they have enough of those ideas to run. They want the benefit of what the other big customers are doing, and that is our job. That is why we spend $tens of millions gathering all the innovation ideas, putting it together in a product. A customer pays us a fraction of the cost that it takes us to create it, and they get the benefit of it. That is how enterprise software works with or without AI. So far, we are not seeing any signals. In fact, the last 6 months is the best 6-month period we have ever had with sales before. We have never had such good back-to-back good sales quarters before. We are in fact seeing opposite signals.
Speaker #2: I don't think they have enough of those ideas to run it. They want the benefit of what the other big customers are doing, and that's our job.
Speaker #2: That is why we spend tens of millions of dollars gathering all the innovation ideas, putting it together in a product. A customer pays us a fraction of the cost that it takes us to create it, and they get the benefit of it.
Speaker #2: That's how enterprise software works, with or without AI. So, so far, we are not seeing any signals. In fact, the last six months is the best six-month period.
Speaker #2: We've ever had with sales before. We've never had such good back-to-back good sales quarters before. So we are, in fact, seeing opposite signals. We think the sales decisions are getting sped up are getting or what is the word for it?
Ramesh Srinivasan: We think the sales division are getting sped up or getting faster now because of all the AI-based innovations we are doing, and customers want the benefit of that. We are seeing the opposite effect. I do not want to sound tone-deaf. All I can tell you is we are not seeing any signals of any such insourcing.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We think the sales division are getting sped up or getting faster now because of all the AI-based innovations we are doing, and customers want the benefit of that. We are seeing the opposite effect. I do not want to sound tone-deaf. All I can tell you is we are not seeing any signals of any such insourcing.
Speaker #2: That process isn’t speeding up or getting faster now because of all the AI-based innovations we are doing, and customers want the benefit of that. We are seeing the opposite effect.
Speaker #2: But I don't want to sound tone-deaf. All I can tell you is we are not seeing any signals of any such insourcing.
Speaker #5: Very helpful, and I agree with your take. I guess, as a follow-up—with win rates remaining high, and the biggest bottleneck right now being getting in front of more prospective customers—has it impacted your thinking about sales capacity additions over the rest of the year?
Stephen Sheldon: Very helpful, I agree with your take. I guess as a follow-up with win rates remaining high and the biggest bottleneck right now being getting in front of more prospective customers, has it impacted your thinking about sales capacity additions over the rest of the year? I know you pushed the pedal a lot there last year, I guess with the success you are having and a lot of opportunity out there, why not push the pedal there even more, going forward?
Stephen Sheldon: Very helpful, I agree with your take. I guess as a follow-up with win rates remaining high and the biggest bottleneck right now being getting in front of more prospective customers, has it impacted your thinking about sales capacity additions over the rest of the year? I know you pushed the pedal a lot there last year, I guess with the success you are having and a lot of opportunity out there, why not push the pedal there even more, going forward?
Speaker #5: I know you pushed the pedal a lot there last year, but I guess with the success you're having and a lot of opportunity out there, why not push the pedal there even more going forward?
Ramesh Srinivasan: We will, Stephen. I know that is a conversation Dave and I have with Joe almost on a weekly basis. Any time Joe needs and our international leaders think they need extra capacity, we will approve it in a matter of 2 hours. We will not hesitate to increase our sales and marketing spend at all. The catalyst has to be more value creation for customers. We need the good news to spread. Like I told you, one of our UK customers used rGuest Spend. It is called rGuest Spend. It is a package implementation process that you can do directly through the booking engine that a guest can go create an automated inventory for a package. No one else can come close. Even if you give the idea, a competitor cannot create that. That has created so much value for them, and they are willing to talk about it openly.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We will, Stephen. I know that is a conversation Dave and I have with Joe almost on a weekly basis. Any time Joe needs and our international leaders think they need extra capacity, we will approve it in a matter of 2 hours. We will not hesitate to increase our sales and marketing spend at all. The catalyst has to be more value creation for customers. We need the good news to spread.
Speaker #2: We will. We will, Stephen. I know that's a conversation Dave and I have with Joe almost on a weekly basis. Any time Joe needs, and our international leaders think they need extra capacity, we will approve it in a matter of two hours.
Speaker #2: We won't hesitate to increase our sales and marketing spend at all, but the catalyst has to be more value creation for customers. We need the good news to spread.
Speaker #2: Like I told you, one of our UK customers used the Spend. It's called the Spend. It's a package implementation process that you can do directly through the booking engine, where a guest can go create an automated inventory for a package.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Like I told you, one of our UK customers used rGuest Spend. It is called rGuest Spend. It is a package implementation process that you can do directly through the booking engine that a guest can go create an automated inventory for a package. No one else can come close. Even if you give the idea, a competitor cannot create that. That has created so much value for them, and they are willing to talk about it openly.
Speaker #2: No one else can come close. Even if you give the idea to a competitor, they cannot create that. That has created so much value for them, and they are willing to talk about it openly.
Speaker #2: Our user conference has more such stories. We need to spread those stories first, Stephen. Currently, we have good geographical coverage both domestically and internationally, and we want to focus on international markets as well.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Our user conference has more such stories. We need to spread those stories first, Stephen. Currently, we have good geographical coverage domestically and in all the countries we want to focus on internationally. We are well-placed as far as our sales team capacity is concerned. We will continue to increase it as we feel the need arises. We will not hesitate from doing that. We are doing it the right way now. We are creating the success stories first, and as we feel the demand is increasing, we will absolutely not hesitate to spend more in marketing and sales.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Our user conference has more such stories. We need to spread those stories first, Stephen. Currently, we have good geographical coverage domestically and in all the countries we want to focus on internationally. We are well-placed as far as our sales team capacity is concerned. We will continue to increase it as we feel the need arises. We will not hesitate from doing that. We are doing it the right way now. We are creating the success stories first, and as we feel the demand is increasing, we will absolutely not hesitate to spend more in marketing and sales.
Speaker #2: We are well placed as far as our sales team capacity is concerned. We will continue to increase it as we feel the need arises.
Speaker #2: We won't hesitate to do that. But we are doing it the right way now. We are creating the success stories first, and as we feel the demand is increasing, we will absolutely not hesitate to spend more on marketing and sales.
Speaker #5: Makes sense. Thank you, and great quarter.
Stephen Sheldon: Makes sense. Thank you, and great quarter.
Stephen Sheldon: Makes sense. Thank you, and great quarter.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Stephen.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Stephen.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Stephen.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment, please, for the next question. Our next question is coming from the line of Nihal Chokri of Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #3: Yeah. Thank you, and my congrats on the strong quarter. Ramesh, you talked about how you're having improved service delivery efficiency, which is making us more competitive in price-sensitive environments.
Nehal Chokshi: Yeah, thank you. My congrats to the strong quarter. Ramesh, you talked about how you're having improved service delivery efficiency, which is making Agilysys more competitive in price-sensitive environments. How much of a portion of that $16 billion TAM are these price-sensitive markets?
Nehal Chokshi: Yeah, thank you. My congrats to the strong quarter. Ramesh, you talked about how you're having improved service delivery efficiency, which is making Agilysys more competitive in price-sensitive environments. How much of a portion of that $16 billion TAM are these price-sensitive markets?
Speaker #3: How much of these price-sensitive environments—how much of a portion of that $16 billion TAM are these price-sensitive markets?
Ramesh Srinivasan: I can't put a number on it, Nehal, good question. I think a large part of it is quite price sensitive, especially in international regions. The more our services becomes more efficient, Joe will tell you, as our revenue leader, he will tell you that more we can reduce our quotes, especially with respect to services, the more of those deals we will win. I can't put an exact number on it. I've not done that kind of analysis, Nehal, but at least half of it. At least half of the $16 billion total addressable market, I think, is price sensitive, especially in international regions. We are getting there. We are becoming more and more efficient, where we are going to become more and more competitive in those markets.
Ramesh Srinivasan: I can't put a number on it, Nehal, good question. I think a large part of it is quite price sensitive, especially in international regions. The more our services becomes more efficient, Joe will tell you, as our revenue leader, he will tell you that more we can reduce our quotes, especially with respect to services, the more of those deals we will win. I can't put an exact number on it. I've not done that kind of analysis, Nehal, but at least half of it. At least half of the $16 billion total addressable market, I think, is price sensitive, especially in international regions. We are getting there. We are becoming more and more efficient, where we are going to become more and more competitive in those markets.
Speaker #2: I can't put a number on it, Nihal, but good question. I think a large part of it is quite price-sensitive, especially in international regions.
Speaker #2: And the more our services become more efficient—Joe will tell you, as our revenue leader—he will tell you that the more we can reduce our quotes, especially with respect to services, the more of those deals we will win.
Speaker #2: So I would—I can't put an exact number on it. I have not done that kind of analysis, Nihal. But at least half of it, right?
Speaker #2: At least half of the $16 billion total addressable market, I think, is price-sensitive, especially in international regions. And we are getting there. We are becoming more and more efficient, where we are going to become more and more competitive in those markets.
Nehal Chokshi: Where those potential customers are price sensitive, is it the same competitive landscape, or are you going to be looking at a different set of competitors?
Speaker #3: And where are those potential customers price-sensitive? Is it the same competitive landscape, or are you going to be looking at a different set of competitors?
Nehal Chokshi: Where those potential customers are price sensitive, is it the same competitive landscape, or are you going to be looking at a different set of competitors?
Speaker #2: Same kind of landscape, Nihal. If we look at our win ratio, it is very impressive. In enterprise software, I don't think it can get much better than that.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Same kind of landscape, Nehal. If we look at our win, our win ratio is very impressive. In enterprise software, I don't think it can get much better than that. We remain disciplined with our pricing. We don't run to the bottom. We're just not that kind of company. When you look at the reason for the losses, the number one reason always comes out as pricing. Of all the reasons, that's by far number one. More we solve that issue, the better off our sales success efforts will be.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Same kind of landscape, Nehal. If we look at our win, our win ratio is very impressive. In enterprise software, I don't think it can get much better than that. We remain disciplined with our pricing. We don't run to the bottom. We're just not that kind of company. When you look at the reason for the losses, the number one reason always comes out as pricing. Of all the reasons, that's by far number one. More we solve that issue, the better off our sales success efforts will be.
Speaker #2: But we remain disciplined with our pricing. We don't race to the bottom. We're just not that kind of company. But when you look at the reason for the losses, the number one reason always comes out as pricing.
Speaker #2: Of all the reasons, that's by far number one. So the more we solve that issue, the better off our sales success efforts will be.
Nehal Chokshi: All right, great. Thank you. Congrats again.
Nehal Chokshi: All right, great. Thank you. Congrats again.
Speaker #3: Great. Great. Thank you. Congrats again.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Nihal.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thanks, Nehal.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thanks, Nehal.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment, please, for the next question. The next question is coming from the line of Brian Schwartz of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #5: Yeah. Hi. Thanks for taking my question this afternoon. Good job on the quarter, guys. Maybe just starting out with the top line, with the guidance raise on that.
Brian Schwartz: Yeah. Hi, thanks for taking my question this afternoon. Good job on the quarter, guys. Maybe just starting out with the top line, with the guidance raise on that. I don't know if you can parse that or what your commentary would be, but how much of that raise is related to the faster conversion, the backlog, versus improvements with sales cycles or deal sizes or just the sales efficiency of the business?
Brian Schwartz: Yeah. Hi, thanks for taking my question this afternoon. Good job on the quarter, guys. Maybe just starting out with the top line, with the guidance raise on that. I don't know if you can parse that or what your commentary would be, but how much of that raise is related to the faster conversion, the backlog, versus improvements with sales cycles or deal sizes or just the sales efficiency of the business?
Speaker #5: I don't know if you can parse that or what your commentary would be, but how much of that raise is related to the faster conversion of the backlog versus improvements with sales cycles, deal sizes, or just the sales efficiency of the business?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Hey, Brian. Pretty much the entire raise is related to subscription revenue, which, like Ramesh said, is a mix of stronger sales than expected and stronger backlog conversion.
Dave Wood: Yeah. Hey, Brian. Pretty much the entire raise is related to subscription revenue, which like Ramesh said, is a mix of stronger sales than expected and stronger backlog conversion. Product and professional services should stay in our original guidance of flat for product year-over-year and 5% to 10% growth for professional services. Obviously, the current guidance provides for a little bit of pullback in professional services in Q3. All of the guidance raise was related to the better subscription sales and backlog deployment than we expected just a couple of months ago.
Dave Wood: Yeah. Hey, Brian. Pretty much the entire raise is related to subscription revenue, which like Ramesh said, is a mix of stronger sales than expected and stronger backlog conversion. Product and professional services should stay in our original guidance of flat for product year-over-year and 5% to 10% growth for professional services. Obviously, the current guidance provides for a little bit of pullback in professional services in Q3. All of the guidance raise was related to the better subscription sales and backlog deployment than we expected just a couple of months ago.
Speaker #2: Product and professional services should stay in our original guidance of flat for product year-over-year and 5% to 10% growth for professional services.
Speaker #2: And obviously, the current guidance provides for a little bit of pullback in professional services in Q3. But all of the guidance raise was related to the better subscription sales and backlog deployment than we expected just a couple of months ago.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Dave. And one follow-up for Ramesh. On the big PMS deployment, is there anything that you can share with us from a learning standpoint—what you've learned so far from those early initial deployments?
Brian Schwartz: Thank you, Dave. One follow-up for Ramesh on the big PMS deployment. Is there anything that you can share with us from a learning standpoint, what you've learned so far from those early initial deployments? How are those lessons influencing your implementation efficiency, the resource requirements, and how you think about the future rollout timelines? Thanks for taking my questions.
Brian Schwartz: Thank you, Dave. One follow-up for Ramesh on the big PMS deployment. Is there anything that you can share with us from a learning standpoint, what you've learned so far from those early initial deployments? How are those lessons influencing your implementation efficiency, the resource requirements, and how you think about the future rollout timelines? Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #5: And how are those lessons influencing your implementation efficiency, the resource requirements, and how you think about the future rollout timelines? Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Thank you, Brian. The main lessons we have learned, if I just put it in a few major categories—one thing we have learned is to get better at change management.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Brad. The main lessons we have learned, if I just put it in a few major categories, one thing we have learned is to get better at change management. These products are not rocket science, right? Hospitality software is not rocket science. Our customer users do learn the product quite fast and in a matter of a few months, settle down well. The difficulty is in moving from where they were. The main PMS vendors, the technology providers in this place, have been dominant for 15 to 20 years. These are all very well-settled products, and they carry with them very well-settled practices for a long time. It's the change management that proves difficult for us, and we are getting better and better at it. Data migration, moving from one system to the other.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Brian. The main lessons we have learned, if I just put it in a few major categories, one thing we have learned is to get better at change management. These products are not rocket science, right? Hospitality software is not rocket science. Our customer users do learn the product quite fast and in a matter of a few months, settle down well. The difficulty is in moving from where they were. The main PMS vendors, the technology providers in this place, have been dominant for 15 to 20 years. These are all very well-settled products, and they carry with them very well-settled practices for a long time. It's the change management that proves difficult for us, and we are getting better and better at it. Data migration, moving from one system to the other.
Speaker #2: These products are not rocket science, right? Hospitality software is not rocket science. So our customer users do learn the product quite fast and, in a matter of a few months, settle down well.
Speaker #2: But the difficulty is in moving from where they were. Now, the main PMS vendors, the technology providers in this space, have been dominant for 15 to 20 years.
Speaker #2: So these are all very well-settled products, and they carry with them very well-settled practices for a long time. It's the change management that proves difficult for us.
Speaker #2: And we are getting better and better at it—data migration, moving from one system to the other. There are a hundred good things the new products will give them.
Ramesh Srinivasan: There are 100 good things the new products will give them, but there are 10 crucial things they are used to doing that they now have to do in a different way. We are providing for that more and more in our PMS products. Handling change management and reducing that level of friction there is in moving from one system to the other is one thing we are getting better and better at. This big PMS rollout we are involved in, we've also learned very good lessons, from a great customer like Marriott. That's one. The second thing we are focused on is making the integration strengths among our ecosystem products a lot better. One of the main reasons customers choose us is the strength of our ecosystem, and we have to bring that to the surface, the advantages of the ecosystem.
Ramesh Srinivasan: There are 100 good things the new products will give them, but there are 10 crucial things they are used to doing that they now have to do in a different way. We are providing for that more and more in our PMS products. Handling change management and reducing that level of friction there is in moving from one system to the other is one thing we are getting better and better at. This big PMS rollout we are involved in, we've also learned very good lessons, from a great customer like Marriott. That's one. The second thing we are focused on is making the integration strengths among our ecosystem products a lot better. One of the main reasons customers choose us is the strength of our ecosystem, and we have to bring that to the surface, the advantages of the ecosystem.
Speaker #2: But there are ten crucial things they are used to doing that they now have to do in a different way. So we are providing for that more and more in our PMS products.
Speaker #2: So, handling change management and reducing that level of friction there is in moving from one system to the other is one thing we are getting better and better at.
Speaker #2: And this big PMS rollout we are involved in—we've also learned very good lessons from a great customer like Marriott, so that's one. The second thing we are focused on is making the integration strengths among our ecosystem products a lot better.
Speaker #2: One of the main reasons customers choose us is the strength of our ecosystem, and we have to bring that to the surface—the advantages of the ecosystem.
Speaker #2: So, we are now really focused on making sure our products create value across each other, and so that the joint value that the products create cannot be duplicated by competitors.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We are now really focused on making sure our products create value across each other, and so that the joint value that the products create cannot be duplicated by competitors. That's another area that we are really focused on to get better at. We are always focused on better customer user training to make sure they understand the products quicker, use of AI tools to make the grunt work of implementation faster, so that we can use more of the hours to actually train the users in the new system. A lot of lessons like that we are learning, and we are becoming better with every passing month.
Ramesh Srinivasan: We are now really focused on making sure our products create value across each other, and so that the joint value that the products create cannot be duplicated by competitors. That's another area that we are really focused on to get better at. We are always focused on better customer user training to make sure they understand the products quicker, use of AI tools to make the grunt work of implementation faster, so that we can use more of the hours to actually train the users in the new system. A lot of lessons like that we are learning, and we are becoming better with every passing month.
Speaker #2: So that's another area that we are really, really focused on to get better at. And we are always focused on better customer user training to make sure they understand the products quicker; use of AI tools to make the grunt work of implementation faster, so that we can use more of the hours to actually train the users in the new system.
Speaker #2: So, a lot of lessons like that we are learning, and we are becoming better with every passing month.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment. The next question will be coming from the line of Billy Fitzsimmons of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
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Ramesh Srinivasan: Thanks.
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Speaker #4: Perfect. Thank you for taking the question. Ramesh, I appreciated the detail on the kind of AI adoption strategy, and I have to imagine it's still pretty early here and we'll get more data points as customers go under beta.
Billy Fitzsimmons: Perfect. Thank you for taking the question. Ramesh, appreciative of the detail on the kind of AI adoption strategy, and I have to imagine it's still pretty early here, and we'll get more data points as customers go under beta. As we think about your new AI tools at a high level, for those 30-plus AI products, how should we think about the eventual ARPU uplift from these versus some of your existing modules and your historical cross-sell averages? Then any early feedback from some of those initial pilots.
Billy Fitzsimmons: Perfect. Thank you for taking the question. Ramesh, appreciative of the detail on the kind of AI adoption strategy, and I have to imagine it's still pretty early here, and we'll get more data points as customers go under beta. As we think about your new AI tools at a high level, for those 30-plus AI products, how should we think about the eventual ARPU uplift from these versus some of your existing modules and your historical cross-sell averages? Then any early feedback from some of those initial pilots.
Speaker #4: But as we think about your new AI tools, at a high level, for those 30-plus AI products, how should we think about the eventual ARPU uplift from these versus some of your existing modules and your historical cross-sell averages?
Speaker #4: And then, any early feedback from some of those initial pilots?
Ramesh Srinivasan: The initial feedback has been good, to answer your last question first. AI is really adding strength to the strengths we already have. Okay, let me go to the first part of your question. Unfortunately, we are not going to be able to give you a separate AI-related ROI, because the way we are thinking about AI is, AI is not like a separate thing we are selling. Excuse me. It's a natural part of all the product features. A lot of the product features. Now, some of those AI features will carry an additional monetization cost because we have to pay extra cost for that. A lot of the features are making our products easier to buy. We are not thinking of it as an entirely separate thing that we can assign a separate value to.
Ramesh Srinivasan: The initial feedback has been good, to answer your last question first. AI is really adding strength to the strengths we already have. Okay, let me go to the first part of your question. Unfortunately, we are not going to be able to give you a separate AI-related ROI, because the way we are thinking about AI is, AI is not like a separate thing we are selling. Excuse me. It's a natural part of all the product features. A lot of the product features. Now, some of those AI features will carry an additional monetization cost because we have to pay extra cost for that. A lot of the features are making our products easier to buy. We are not thinking of it as an entirely separate thing that we can assign a separate value to.
Speaker #2: The initial feedback has been good, to answer your last question first. AI is really adding strength to the strengths we already have. And so, okay, let me go to the first part of your question.
Speaker #2: Unfortunately, we are not going to be able to give you a separate AI-related ROI, because the way we are thinking about AI is not like a separate thing.
Speaker #2: We are selling. Excuse me. But it's a natural part of all the product features. A lot of the product features. Now, some of those AI features will carry an additional monetization cost because we have to pay extra cost for that.
Speaker #2: But a lot of the features are making our products easier to buy, so we are not thinking of it as an entirely separate thing that we can assign a separate value to.
Speaker #2: Like the way we think of AI, we break it up into four major parts. One is hyper-personalization. For example, we now provide our customers with guest insights.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Like, the way we think of AI, we break it up into four major parts. One is hyper-personalization. Like, we now provide our customers guest insights. We provide an automated itinerary agent. Like, if you go to a hotel resort and book a package, it'll automatically create an itinerary for you. Now, it's not a separatable feature. We already had that itinerary thing, but now the agent makes it a lot faster. We have a bunch of agentic process automation, check-in agent, book offers agent. That's an agent will do a lot of the work for you. That's all not a separate thing, it's all part of the product. Revenue Intelligence and CRS that we are going to introduce, we will be able to assign separate monetization too. A lot of our UX in our products are all AI-based now. Conversational food ordering, conversational reservations, a housekeeping assistant.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Like, the way we think of AI, we break it up into four major parts. One is hyper-personalization. Like, we now provide our customers guest insights. We provide an automated itinerary agent. Like, if you go to a hotel resort and book a package, it'll automatically create an itinerary for you. Now, it's not a separatable feature. We already had that itinerary thing, but now the agent makes it a lot faster. We have a bunch of agentic process automation, check-in agent, book offers agent. That's an agent will do a lot of the work for you. That's all not a separate thing, it's all part of the product. Revenue Intelligence and CRS that we are going to introduce, we will be able to assign separate monetization too. A lot of our UX in our products are all AI-based now. Conversational food ordering, conversational reservations, a housekeeping assistant.
Speaker #2: We provide an automated itinerary agent. For example, if you go to a hotel resort and book a package, it will automatically create an itinerary for you.
Speaker #2: Now, it's not a separable feature. We already had that itinerary thing, but now the agent makes it a lot faster. We have a bunch of agentic process automation—the check-in agent, book-offers agent—where an agent will do a lot of the work for you.
Speaker #2: That's all not a separate thing, but it's all part of the product. Revenue intelligence and CRS that we are going to introduce—we will be able to assign separate monetization to those.
Speaker #2: And a lot of our UX in our products is AI-based now—conversational food ordering, conversational reservations, housekeeping assistant. Those all add value to the product.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Those are all value to the product. We are thinking of AI as an integral part of our thinking. It is going to be difficult for us to give you a separate ROI on that, we will try. Once Revenue Intelligence and CRS and all that really hits the market, we will try and provide you those numbers as best as we can. Currently, we are focused on all the guardrails. What kind of LLM do we use for what kind of purpose? How do we manage costs so that it doesn't go out of control? We are setting all those guidelines and guardrails now, and the 30-plus features we announced during our user conference are all sort of hitting the market now during these months, July, August, and September.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Those are all value to the product. We are thinking of AI as an integral part of our thinking. It is going to be difficult for us to give you a separate ROI on that, we will try. Once Revenue Intelligence and CRS and all that really hits the market, we will try and provide you those numbers as best as we can. Currently, we are focused on all the guardrails. What kind of LLM do we use for what kind of purpose? How do we manage costs so that it doesn't go out of control? We are setting all those guidelines and guardrails now, and the 30-plus features we announced during our user conference are all sort of hitting the market now during these months, July, August, and September.
Speaker #2: So, we are thinking of AI as an integral part of our thinking, so it is going to be difficult for us to give you a separate ROI on that.
Speaker #2: But we will try. Once revenue intelligence and CRS and all that really hit the market, we will try and provide you those numbers as best as we can.
Speaker #2: Currently, we are focused on all the guardrails—what kind of LLM we use for what kind of purpose, and how we manage costs so that they don't get out of control.
Speaker #2: So, we are setting all those guidelines and guardrails now. And the 30-plus features we announced during our user conference are all sort of hitting the market now during these months: July, August, and September.
Speaker #4: Makes sense. I appreciate the commentary there. And then, if I could sneak in a second one—obviously, a notable milestone here with PMS surpassing POS.
Billy Fitzsimmons: Makes sense. I appreciate the commentary there. Then if I could sneak in a second one. Obviously, a notable milestone here with PMS surpassing POS. Good to see the growth in PMS, there have been a couple of questions on that already. I actually thought the color on how POS and related modules should still remain in that call it the high teens to low 20s growth for the foreseeable future. I know that's long-term directional color, but can we talk about maybe the assumptions that underpin that? Is that just TAM expansion potential, new customer adds, what you've seen historically and extrapolating that forward? How do we think about the sustainability of growth in that market?
Billy Fitzsimmons: Makes sense. I appreciate the commentary there. Then if I could sneak in a second one. Obviously, a notable milestone here with PMS surpassing POS. Good to see the growth in PMS, there have been a couple of questions on that already. I actually thought the color on how POS and related modules should still remain in that call it the high teens to low 20s growth for the foreseeable future. I know that's long-term directional color, but can we talk about maybe the assumptions that underpin that? Is that just TAM expansion potential, new customer adds, what you've seen historically and extrapolating that forward? How do we think about the sustainability of growth in that market?
Speaker #4: And it's good to see the growth in PMS. But there have been a couple of questions on that already. I actually wanted some color on how POS and related modules should still remain in that, call it, high teens to low 20s growth for the foreseeable future.
Speaker #4: I know that's long-term directional color, but can we talk about maybe the assumptions that underpin that? Is that just TAM expansion potential, new customer adds, kind of what you've seen historically and extrapolating that forward?
Speaker #4: How do we think about the sustainability of growth in that market?
Ramesh Srinivasan: POS will also continue to grow, Brian. Our market share is not great in POS, even in the markets where we are strong at, like food service management. Our market share with POS is quite low. Even in areas, international regions, Europe and APAC, our POS market share is quite low. POS, we are relatively a lot more well-established compared to PMS, where we are the underdog really coming up now. We are well-established with POS, but there's still a lot of areas of growth there as well. I think we should be able to maintain that high teens, 20 kind of subscription revenue growth in POS as well, Billy, and that should continue to hang around that kind of range is what we expect in POS. There's still a lot of growth left in POS as well.
Ramesh Srinivasan: POS will also continue to grow, Brian. Our market share is not great in POS, even in the markets where we are strong at, like food service management. Our market share with POS is quite low. Even in areas, international regions, Europe and APAC, our POS market share is quite low. POS, we are relatively a lot more well-established compared to PMS, where we are the underdog really coming up now. We are well-established with POS, but there's still a lot of areas of growth there as well. I think we should be able to maintain that high teens, 20 kind of subscription revenue growth in POS as well, Billy, and that should continue to hang around that kind of range is what we expect in POS. There's still a lot of growth left in POS as well.
Speaker #2: POS will also continue to grow, Brian. Our market share is not great in POS. Even in the markets where we are strong, like food service management, our market share with POS is quite low.
Speaker #2: And even in international regions like Europe and APAC, our POS market share is quite low. Though in POS, we are relatively a lot more well-established compared to PMS, where we are the underdog really coming up now.
Speaker #2: We are well established with POS, but there's still a lot of areas of growth there as well. I think we should be able to maintain that high-teens, 20% kind of subscription revenue growth in POS as well, Billy.
Speaker #2: And that should continue to hang around that kind of range, which is what we expect in POS. But there's still a lot of growth left in POS as well.
Speaker #4: Perfect. Appreciate the commentary, Ramesh.
Billy Fitzsimmons: Perfect. Appreciate the commentary, Ramesh.
Billy Fitzsimmons: Perfect. Appreciate the commentary, Ramesh.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Billy.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Billy.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Billy.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for the next question. And our next question is coming from the line of Allen Frakowski of BTIG. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for the next question. Our next question is coming from the line of Allan Verkhovski of BTIG. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for the next question. Our next question is coming from the line of Allan Verkhovski of BTIG. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Ramesh, last quarter, you indicated that the Marriott rollout could take around two years or possibly longer. Given the strong results, again, this quarter, along with Marriott's recent commentary, suggesting the rollout could be closer to one year.
Allan Verkhovski: Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Ramesh, last quarter, you indicated that the Marriott rollout could take around two years or possibly longer. Given the strong results again this quarter, along with Marriott's recent commentary suggesting the rollout could be closer to one year, can you update us on how your current view of the rollout timeline is different from your view three months ago?
Allan Verkhovski: Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Ramesh, last quarter, you indicated that the Marriott rollout could take around two years or possibly longer. Given the strong results again this quarter, along with Marriott's recent commentary suggesting the rollout could be closer to one year, can you update us on how your current view of the rollout timeline is different from your view three months ago?
Speaker #5: Can you update us on how your current view of the rollout timeline is different from your view three months ago?
Ramesh Srinivasan: I think you're seeing too much meaning into various comments, Allan. The project is going well, no question about it. The project is making good progress. All the technical aspects have been proven out quite well. Marriott and all the other vendors. We can't take all the credit for it. All the other vendors have done a superb job as well. The project is going well. It's still a long way to go, and a lot of the complex properties are coming up now. So far, most of the implementations have been select service. Now the major properties, the full service, the premium properties are all coming up, and they will bring their own challenges. We are still expecting the timeline to be somewhere in the next 18 to 24 months.
Ramesh Srinivasan: I think you're seeing too much meaning into various comments, Allan. The project is going well, no question about it. The project is making good progress. All the technical aspects have been proven out quite well. Marriott and all the other vendors. We can't take all the credit for it. All the other vendors have done a superb job as well. The project is going well. It's still a long way to go, and a lot of the complex properties are coming up now. So far, most of the implementations have been select service. Now the major properties, the full service, the premium properties are all coming up, and they will bring their own challenges. We are still expecting the timeline to be somewhere in the next 18 to 24 months.
Speaker #2: I don't. I think you're reading too much meaning into various comments, Allen. The project is going well—no question about it. The project is making good progress.
Speaker #2: All the technical aspects have been proven out quite well. Marriott and all the other vendors—we can't take all the credit for it—all the other vendors have done a superb job as well.
Speaker #2: So the project is going well, but it's still a long way to go, and a lot of the complex properties are coming up now.
Speaker #2: So far, most of the implementations have been select service, and now the major properties—the full service, the premium properties—are all coming up.
Speaker #2: And they will bring their own challenges. So, we are still expecting the timeline to be somewhere in the next 18 to 24 months. Sort of completion time work is where we are working towards.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Sort of completion time work is where we are working towards. The project is going well. There is enough reason for optimism, we are not expecting the kind of super fast implementation timeline that you are thinking about, Allan.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Sort of completion time work is where we are working towards. The project is going well. There is enough reason for optimism, we are not expecting the kind of super fast implementation timeline that you are thinking about, Allan.
Speaker #2: But the project is going well. There is enough reason for optimism. However, we are not expecting the kind of super-fast implementation timeline that you are thinking about, Allen.
Speaker #5: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then just as a follow-up for you, Dave, if I can: on the 15 new customers that were added this quarter, it looks like that was down sequentially compared to past Q1 periods.
Allan Verkhovski: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Just as a follow-up for you, Dave, if I can. On the 15 new customers that were added this quarter, looks like that was down sequentially on past Q1 periods. Can you provide more color on what drove that? You highlighted several notable wins in the prepared remarks. Any additional context on factors such as customer size, mix, or timing of deals would be helpful. Thanks, guys.
Allan Verkhovski: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Just as a follow-up for you, Dave, if I can. On the 15 new customers that were added this quarter, looks like that was down sequentially on past Q1 periods. Can you provide more color on what drove that? You highlighted several notable wins in the prepared remarks. Any additional context on factors such as customer size, mix, or timing of deals would be helpful. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #5: Can you provide more color on what drove that? You highlighted several notable wins in the prepared remarks, so any additional context on factors such as customer size mix or timing of deals would be helpful.
Speaker #5: Thanks, guys.
Speaker #2: Yeah. No, the customers, it's on the lower end of the 15, but the way we think about the business, as long as it's in that 15 to 20 range, we're pretty good.
Dave Wood: The customers was on the lower end at the 15, but the way we think about the business, as long as it's in that 15 to 20 range, we're pretty good. It kind of keeps us at or ahead of our FY27 plan. The number's a little bit low, but deal sizes were really large. Ramesh made a comment about how many seven-figure deals. Number was maybe one or two low, but the deal sizes are so much bigger, there's no area for concern. As long as we stay in that 15 to 20 range, we're in a very comfortable spot for our FY27 plan and beyond.
Dave Wood: The customers was on the lower end at the 15, but the way we think about the business, as long as it's in that 15 to 20 range, we're pretty good. It kind of keeps us at or ahead of our FY27 plan. The number's a little bit low, but deal sizes were really large. Ramesh made a comment about how many seven-figure deals. Number was maybe one or two low, but the deal sizes are so much bigger, there's no area for concern. As long as we stay in that 15 to 20 range, we're in a very comfortable spot for our FY27 plan and beyond.
Speaker #2: It kind of keeps us at or ahead of our FY27 plan. The number is a little bit low, but deal sizes were really large.
Speaker #2: I mean, Ramesh made a comment about how many seven-figure deals. So the number was maybe one or two low, but the deal sizes are so much bigger.
Speaker #2: There's no area for concern. As long as we stay in that 15-to-20 range, we're in a very comfortable spot for our FY27 plan and beyond.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And one moment. We have a follow-up question. That follow-up question is coming from the line of Nihal Joshi of Northland Capital Markets.
Operator: Thank you. One moment, we have a follow-up question. That follow-up question is coming from the line of Nihal Joshi of Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment, we have a follow-up question. That follow-up question is coming from the line of Nehal Chokshi of Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Two-part question, actually. So, the first part is the three $1 million software deals. Would you consider these customers as the dolphins and sharks?
Nehal Chokshi: Thank you. Two-part question, actually. The first part is, the three $1 million software deals, would you consider these customers as the dolphins and sharks, or are those bigger than the dolphins and sharks that you've talked about in the past?
Nehal Chokshi: Thank you. Two-part question, actually. The first part is, the three $1 million software deals, would you consider these customers as the dolphins and sharks, or are those bigger than the dolphins and sharks that you've talked about in the past?
Speaker #6: Or are those bigger than the dolphins and sharks that you talked about in the past?
Ramesh Srinivasan: They are a lot more than $1 million, Nihal, I just called it seven figures. Please don't think of them as $1 million. Good question. If I assign the terminology of whales to the big brands, I would put this in the category of reasonably big sharks, Nihal, yeah.
Ramesh Srinivasan: They are a lot more than $1 million, Nehal, I just called it seven figures. Please don't think of them as $1 million. Good question. If I assign the terminology of whales to the big brands, I would put this in the category of reasonably big sharks, Nehal, yeah.
Speaker #2: They are a lot more than $1 million, Nihal. So I just called it seven figures. Please don't think of them as just $1 million.
Speaker #2: Good question. So if I assign the terminology of whales to the big brands, I would put this in the category of reasonably big sharks, Nihal.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Nehal Chokshi: Got it. Are there any major RFPs in the tens of millions of dollars ACV range that you're aware of at this point in time?
Nehal Chokshi: Got it. Are there any major RFPs in the tens of millions of dollars ACV range that you're aware of at this point in time?
Speaker #6: Got it. And are there any major RFPs in the tens of millions dollar ACV range that you're aware of at this point in time?
Ramesh Srinivasan: I'm not going to go into that, Nehal. We are not going to discuss it RFP by RFP now. There are sales opportunities. See, I'll give you this kind of answer, Nehal. The last six-month period is the best six-month period we've had in sales in our history, our sales pipeline now is larger than what it was before that six-month period started. We're doing well with sales pipeline, and our sales pipeline consists of all kinds of opportunities. If you go back to your ocean analogy, it has all kinds of sizes of fishes out there. I won't go into specifics on the RFPs, Nehal, but you can rest assured that the opportunities vary from the large to small in the sales pipeline, yeah.
Ramesh Srinivasan: I'm not going to go into that, Nehal. We are not going to discuss it RFP by RFP now. There are sales opportunities. See, I'll give you this kind of answer, Nehal. The last six-month period is the best six-month period we've had in sales in our history, our sales pipeline now is larger than what it was before that six-month period started. We're doing well with sales pipeline, and our sales pipeline consists of all kinds of opportunities. If you go back to your ocean analogy, it has all kinds of sizes of fishes out there. I won't go into specifics on the RFPs, Nehal, but you can rest assured that the opportunities vary from the large to small in the sales pipeline, yeah.
Speaker #2: Not going to go into that, Nihal. We are not going to discuss it. RFP by RFP now. There are sales opportunities. See, I'll give you this kind of answer, Nihal.
Speaker #2: The last six-month period is the best six-month period we've had in sales in our history. And our sales pipeline now is larger than what it was before that six-month period started.
Speaker #2: So we're doing well with the sales pipeline. And our sales pipeline consists of all kinds of opportunities. If you go back to your ocean analysis, it has all kinds of sizes of fish out there.
Speaker #2: So I won't go into specifics on the RFPs, Nihal, but you can rest assured that the opportunities vary from large to small in the sales pipeline we have.
Nehal Chokshi: Great. Thanks. I do love your sea animal analogy, I keep on using it. Thank you.
Nehal Chokshi: Great. Thanks. I do love your sea animal analogy, I keep on using it. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Great, thanks. I do love your sea animal analogy—I keep on using it. Thank you.
Speaker #2: I have to come up with a better one, Nihal—sometimes so.
Ramesh Srinivasan: I have to come up with a better one, Nehal, sometime soon.
Ramesh Srinivasan: I have to come up with a better one, Nehal, sometime soon.
Nehal Chokshi: I'll try.
Nehal Chokshi: I'll try.
Speaker #6: I'll try.
Speaker #1: Thank you. There are no more questions in the queue. I would like to turn the call back over to Ramesh for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. There are no more questions in the queue. I would like to turn the call back over to Ramesh for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. There are no more questions in the queue. I would like to turn the call back over to Ramesh for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Lisa. Thank you for all your interest and support. Please take good care and enjoy the rest of the summer. We'll catch up with you again soon.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Lisa. Thank you for all your interest and support. Please take good care, enjoy the rest of the summer, and we'll catch up with you again soon. Thank you.
Ramesh Srinivasan: Thank you, Lisa. Thank you for all your interest and support. Please take good care, enjoy the rest of the summer, and we'll catch up with you again soon. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
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