Q2 2026 Element Solutions Inc Earnings Call
Lynn: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Element Solutions Q2 2026 financial results conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now turn the call over to Varun Gokarn, Vice President of Strategy and Integration. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Element Solutions Q2 2026 financial results conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now turn the call over to Varun Gokarn, Vice President of Strategy and Integration. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: If you would like to ask a question, please press *1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press *1 again. I will now turn the call over to Varun Gokarn, Vice President of Strategy and Integration.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for participating in our second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today are our CEO, Benjamin Gliklich, and CFO, Carey Dorman.
Varun Gokarn: Good morning, thank you for participating in our Q2 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today are our CEO, Ben Gliklich, and CFO, Carey Dorman. In accordance with Regulation FD, we are webcasting this conference call. A replay will be made available in the Investors section of the company's website. Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that our announced merger with Solstice Advanced Materials remains subject to shareholder and regulatory approvals, and customary closing conditions. As such, we will be limiting our comments on the proposed transaction to what has already been been made available in public filings and will not be taking questions about the transaction. During today's call, we will make certain forward-looking statements that reflect our current views about the company's future performance and financial results. These statements are based on assumptions and expectations of future events, which are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Varun Gokarn: Good morning, thank you for participating in our Q2 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today are our CEO, Ben Gliklich, and CFO, Carey Dorman. In accordance with Regulation FD, we are webcasting this conference call. A replay will be made available in the Investors section of the company's website.
Speaker #2: In accordance with Regulation FD, we are webcasting this conference call. A replay will be made available in the Investors section of the company's website.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that our announced merger with Solstice Advanced Materials remains subject to shareholder and regulatory approvals and customary closing conditions.
Varun Gokarn: Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that our announced merger with Solstice Advanced Materials remains subject to shareholder and regulatory approvals, and customary closing conditions. As such, we will be limiting our comments on the proposed transaction to what has already been been made available in public filings and will not be taking questions about the transaction.
Speaker #2: As such, we will be limiting our comments on the proposed transaction to what has already been made available in public filings, and we will not be taking questions about the transaction.
Speaker #2: During today's call, we will make certain forward-looking statements that reflect our current views about the company's future performance and financial results. These statements are based on assumptions and expectations of future events, which are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Varun Gokarn: During today's call, we will make certain forward-looking statements that reflect our current views about the company's future performance and financial results. These statements are based on assumptions and expectations of future events, which are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Speaker #2: Please refer to the earnings release supplemental slides and most recent SEC filings on our website for a discussion of material risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from our expectations and predictions.
Varun Gokarn: Please refer to the earnings release, supplemental slides, and most recent SEC filings on our website for a discussion of material risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from our expectations and predictions. Today's materials also include financial information that has not been prepared in accordance with US GAAP. Please refer to the earnings release and supplemental slides for definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP financial measures. It is now my pleasure to introduce our CEO, Ben Gliklich.
Varun Gokarn: Please refer to the earnings release, supplemental slides, and most recent SEC filings on our website for a discussion of material risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from our expectations and predictions.
Speaker #2: Today's materials also include financial information that has not been prepared in accordance with US GAAP. Please refer to the earnings release and supplemental slides for definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP financial measures.
Varun Gokarn: Today's materials also include financial information that has not been prepared in accordance with US GAAP. Please refer to the earnings release and supplemental slides for definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP financial measures. It is now my pleasure to introduce our CEO, Ben Gliklich.
Speaker #2: It is now my pleasure to introduce our CEO, Ben Gliklich.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Varun, and good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining. Before we review this record quarter, I'd like to reiterate our rationale for the announced agreement to merge with Solstice Advanced Materials.
Ben Gliklich: Thank you, Varun, good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining. Before we review this record quarter, I'd like to reiterate our rationale for the announced agreement to merge with Solstice Advanced Materials. This proposed transaction unites our complementary competencies to better meet customer demands for scaled, broad strategic supply partners, while also increasing avenues to prudently invest our cash flows for growth and unlocking compelling synergies. Together, we stand to build an even stronger electronics portfolio across chip and PCB fabrication, packaging, and assembly, while accelerating investment in the commercialization of new advanced materials and other growth priorities. We will have a broader, highly differentiated value proposition in thermal management and front-end copper interconnect formation. The combined company will be a market leader in profit growth and cash flow generation with multiple high-growth businesses.
Ben Gliklich: Thank you, Varun, good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining. Before we review this record quarter, I'd like to reiterate our rationale for the announced agreement to merge with Solstice Advanced Materials.
Speaker #3: This proposed transaction unites our complementary competencies to better meet customer demands for scaled, broad, strategic supply partners, while also increasing avenues to prudently invest our cash flows for growth and unlocking compelling synergies.
Ben Gliklich: This proposed transaction unites our complementary competencies to better meet customer demands for scaled, broad strategic supply partners, while also increasing avenues to prudently invest our cash flows for growth and unlocking compelling synergies.
Speaker #3: Together, we stand to build an even stronger electronics portfolio across chip and PCB fabrication, packaging, and assembly, while accelerating investment in the commercialization of new advanced materials and other growth priorities.
Ben Gliklich: Together, we stand to build an even stronger electronics portfolio across chip and PCB fabrication, packaging, and assembly, while accelerating investment in the commercialization of new advanced materials and other growth priorities.
Speaker #3: We will have a broader, highly differentiated value proposition in thermal management and front-end copper interconnect formation. The combined company will be a market leader in profit growth and cash flow generation, with multiple high-growth businesses.
Ben Gliklich: We will have a broader, highly differentiated value proposition in thermal management and front-end copper interconnect formation. The combined company will be a market leader in profit growth and cash flow generation with multiple high-growth businesses.
Speaker #3: Finally, the over 180 million dollars in cost synergy potential is real, and actionable, with clear additional upside over time. Integration planning has begun, and we're assembling a joint team of leaders from both of our businesses to ensure the organizations are integrated thoughtfully and we fully capture the strategic and financial promise of the combination.
Ben Gliklich: Finally, the over $180 million in cost synergy potential is real and actionable with clear additional upside over time. Integration planning has begun, and we're assembling a joint team of leaders from both of our businesses to ensure the organizations are integrated thoughtfully, and we fully capture the strategic and financial promise of the combination. Carey will lead the effort on our side, equipped with deep knowledge of our businesses and processes, as well as experience successfully leading many similar exercises over his tenure at Element. Our North Star at Element Solutions has always been shareholder value creation, and we've had a robust dialogue with our investors since this announcement and will continue to listen intently to their feedback. We work for our shareholders and value their input on important decisions such as this.
Ben Gliklich: Finally, the over $180 million in cost synergy potential is real and actionable with clear additional upside over time. Integration planning has begun, and we're assembling a joint team of leaders from both of our businesses to ensure the organizations are integrated thoughtfully, and we fully capture the strategic and financial promise of the combination.
Speaker #3: Carrie will lead the effort on our side, equipped with deep knowledge of our businesses and processes, as well as experienced successfully leading many similar exercises over his tenure at Element.
Ben Gliklich: Carey will lead the effort on our side, equipped with deep knowledge of our businesses and processes, as well as experience successfully leading many similar exercises over his tenure at Element.
Speaker #3: Our North Star at Element Solutions has always been shareholder value creation, and we've had a robust dialogue with our investors since this announcement and will continue to listen intently to their feedback.
Ben Gliklich: Our North Star at Element Solutions has always been shareholder value creation, and we've had a robust dialogue with our investors since this announcement and will continue to listen intently to their feedback. We work for our shareholders and value their input on important decisions such as this.
Speaker #3: We work for our shareholders and value their input on important decisions such as this. As today's results show, our organic path has tremendous momentum, and combining our business with Solstice should provide an incremental lever to deliver greater value than we otherwise would have.
Ben Gliklich: As today's results show, our organic path has tremendous momentum, and combining our business with Solstice should provide an incremental lever to deliver greater value than we otherwise would have. The stock's reaction to the announcement has been disappointing, and both ESI and Solstice recognize the need to show from a cultural as well as operational perspective that we can execute against this significant opportunity. The first test of that execution will be integration. Together with other leaders from ESI and our board, I'll be very focused on working to ensure this integration is planned and executed to our standards for excellence and delivery. Now, turning to our Q2 results, Element Solutions posted a record quarter as organic growth accelerated in our electronics portfolio and the Specialties business continued to deliver bottom-line growth despite a mixed backdrop.
Ben Gliklich: As today's results show, our organic path has tremendous momentum, and combining our business with Solstice should provide an incremental lever to deliver greater value than we otherwise would have. The stock's reaction to the announcement has been disappointing, and both ESI and Solstice recognize the need to show from a cultural as well as operational perspective that we can execute against this significant opportunity.
Speaker #3: The stock's reaction to the announcement has been disappointing, and both ESI and Solstice recognize the need to show, from a cultural as well as operational perspective, that we can execute against the significant opportunity.
Speaker #3: The first test of that execution will be integration. And, together with other leaders from ESI and our board, I'll ensure this integration is planned and executed to our standards for excellence and delivery.
Ben Gliklich: The first test of that execution will be integration. Together with other leaders from ESI and our board, I'll be very focused on working to ensure this integration is planned and executed to our standards for excellence and delivery.
Speaker #3: Now, turning to our second quarter results, Element Solutions posted a record quarter as organic growth accelerated in our electronics portfolio, and the specialties business continued to deliver bottom-line growth despite a mixed backdrop.
Ben Gliklich: Now, turning to our Q2 results, Element Solutions posted a record quarter as organic growth accelerated in our electronics portfolio and the Specialties business continued to deliver bottom-line growth despite a mixed backdrop.
Speaker #3: Our results were enhanced by strong contributions from our recent acquisitions, which are performing very well. Overall, these results demonstrate the ongoing success of our strategy to penetrate the highest-value, fastest-growing subsegments in our addressable markets, and are a testament to years of work by our teams, collaborating across labs, manufacturing sites, applications facilities, and alongside our customers at their locations.
Ben Gliklich: Our results were enhanced by strong contributions from our recent acquisitions, which are performing very well. Overall, these results demonstrate the ongoing success of our strategy to penetrate the highest value, fastest-growing subsegments in our addressable markets and are a testament to years of work by our teams, collaborating across labs, manufacturing sites, applications facilities, and alongside our customers at their locations. We're growing with our customers, increasingly as a partner, working together to address their most pressing technical challenges. There are significant opportunities for our teams to improve value and use manufacturing processes, particularly as pockets of the electronic supply chain have become constrained relative to accelerating demand. In the Q2, we delivered double-digit organic sales growth for the Q3 in a row, margin expansion when excluding the impact of pass-through metals.
Ben Gliklich: Our results were enhanced by strong contributions from our recent acquisitions, which are performing very well. Overall, these results demonstrate the ongoing success of our strategy to penetrate the highest value, fastest-growing subsegments in our addressable markets and are a testament to years of work by our teams, collaborating across labs, manufacturing sites, applications facilities, and alongside our customers at their locations.
Speaker #3: We’re growing with our customers, increasingly as a partner, working together to address their most pressing technical challenges. There are significant opportunities for our teams to improve value and use manufacturing processes, particularly as pockets of the electronic supply chain have become constrained relative to accelerating demand.
Ben Gliklich: We're growing with our customers, increasingly as a partner, working together to address their most pressing technical challenges. There are significant opportunities for our teams to improve value and use manufacturing processes, particularly as pockets of the electronic supply chain have become constrained relative to accelerating demand. In the Q2, we delivered double-digit organic sales growth for the Q3 in a row, margin expansion when excluding the impact of pass-through metals.
Speaker #3: In the second quarter, we delivered double-digit organic sales growth for the third quarter in a row, and margin expansion when excluding the impact of pass-through metals.
Speaker #3: Importantly, our profitable growth is happening alongside increasing investment in people, technology, and plants to support the future. Sales in our electronics segment grew 20% organically as activity accelerated across our supply chain in support of the ongoing AI infrastructure build-out.
Ben Gliklich: Importantly, our profitable growth is happening alongside increasing investment in people, technology, and plants to support the future. Sales in our Electronics segment grew 20% organically as activity accelerated across our supply chain in support of the ongoing AI infrastructure build-out. Technical requirements in data center hardware and other high-performance electronics continue to increase, our business provides critical enabling solutions across thermal management, power density, and advanced packaging applications, to name a few. We're seeing volume growth in the highest value categories across our end markets, from leading-edge semi and high-end circuit board fabs to device assemblers, and a strong pull for innovation to enable greater levels of device performance and manufacturing yield or throughput. This dynamic drove double-digit organic net sales growth in each of our electronics verticals.
Ben Gliklich: Importantly, our profitable growth is happening alongside increasing investment in people, technology, and plants to support the future. Sales in our Electronics segment grew 20% organically as activity accelerated across our supply chain in support of the ongoing AI infrastructure build-out.
Speaker #3: Technical requirements in data center hardware and other high-performance electronics continue to increase and our business provides critical enabling solutions across thermal management, power density, and advanced packaging applications to name a few.
Ben Gliklich: Technical requirements in data center hardware and other high-performance electronics continue to increase, our business provides critical enabling solutions across thermal management, power density, and advanced packaging applications, to name a few.
Speaker #3: We're seeing volume growth in the highest value categories across our end markets, from leading-edge semi and high-end circuit board fabs to device assemblers, and a strong pull for innovation performance and manufacturing yield or throughput.
Ben Gliklich: We're seeing volume growth in the highest value categories across our end markets, from leading-edge semi and high-end circuit board fabs to device assemblers, and a strong pull for innovation to enable greater levels of device performance and manufacturing yield or throughput. This dynamic drove double-digit organic net sales growth in each of our electronics verticals.
Speaker #3: This dynamic drove double-digit organic net sales growth in each of our electronics verticals. As we discussed at our May Investor Day, we're making investments to meet the increasing demands of our customers, adding additional manufacturing capacity for several high-growth product lines, and increasing our laboratory footprint and innovation resources to remain on the leading edge.
Ben Gliklich: As we discussed at our May Investor Day, we're making investments to meet the increasing demands of our customers, adding additional manufacturing capacity for several high-growth product lines, increasing our laboratory footprint and innovation resources to remain on the leading edge. One of our largest focus areas has been Cuprion, where we're working to commercialize a differentiated new technology to solve several emerging customer pain points around thermal management, power delivery, and plating copper on challenging substrates. Our development partners working with this material are incredibly enthusiastic, which is evident in a growing commercial pipeline. We're actively sampling products from our first plant to qualify it through our customers, we have high conviction in the opportunity in this market and urgency to establish incumbency with this technology.
Ben Gliklich: As we discussed at our May Investor Day, we're making investments to meet the increasing demands of our customers, adding additional manufacturing capacity for several high-growth product lines, increasing our laboratory footprint and innovation resources to remain on the leading edge.
Speaker #3: One of our largest focus areas has been Couprion, where we're working to commercialize a differentiated new technology to solve several emerging customer pain points around thermal management, power delivery, and plating copper on challenging substrates.
Ben Gliklich: One of our largest focus areas has been Cuprion, where we're working to commercialize a differentiated new technology to solve several emerging customer pain points around thermal management, power delivery, and plating copper on challenging substrates.
Speaker #3: Our development partners working with this material are incredibly enthusiastic, which is evident in a growing commercial pipeline. We're actively sampling products from our first plant to qualify them through our customers, and we have high conviction in the opportunity in this market and urgency to establish incumbency with this technology.
Ben Gliklich: Our development partners working with this material are incredibly enthusiastic, which is evident in a growing commercial pipeline. We're actively sampling products from our first plant to qualify it through our customers, we have high conviction in the opportunity in this market and urgency to establish incumbency with this technology.
Speaker #3: Over the past quarter, we've made plans to increase throughput at our initial plant and to expand the scope of our second site, which will be located nearby in California.
Ben Gliklich: Over the past quarter, we've made plans to increase throughput at our initial plant, increase the scope of our second site, which will be located nearby in California. Taken together, our capacity outlook for year-end 2027 is higher than it was entering the quarter. Beyond investments in organic growth, we continue to demonstrate the returns of prudent capital allocation into attractive adjacencies that bring value to our customers. The integrations of Micromax and EFC are going well. Both businesses are performing ahead of our plans for this year, contributed meaningful adjusted EBITDA growth in the Q2. It was both operational excellence and prudent capital allocation that led to the 27% increase in adjusted EPS we delivered in the Q2. Carey will now take you through our Q2 business results in more detail. Carey, please.
Ben Gliklich: Over the past quarter, we've made plans to increase throughput at our initial plant, increase the scope of our second site, which will be located nearby in California. Taken together, our capacity outlook for year-end 2027 is higher than it was entering the quarter. Beyond investments in organic growth, we continue to demonstrate the returns of prudent capital allocation into attractive adjacencies that bring value to our customers.
Speaker #3: Taken together, our capacity outlook for year-end 2027 is higher than it was entering the quarter. Beyond investments in organic growth, we continue to demonstrate the returns of prudent capital allocation into attractive adjacencies that bring value to our customers.
Speaker #3: The integrations of Micromax and EFC are going well. Both businesses are performing ahead of our plans for this year and contributed meaningful adjusted EBITDA growth in the quarter.
Ben Gliklich: The integrations of Micromax and EFC are going well. Both businesses are performing ahead of our plans for this year, contributed meaningful adjusted EBITDA growth in the Q2. It was both operational excellence and prudent capital allocation that led to the 27% increase in adjusted EPS we delivered in the Q2. Carey will now take you through our Q2 business results in more detail. Carey, please.
Speaker #3: It was both operational excellence and prudent capital allocation that led to the 27% increase in adjusted EPS we delivered in the second quarter. Carey will now take you through our second quarter business results in more detail.
Speaker #3: Carrie, please.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ben. Good morning, everyone. On slide three, you can see a summary of our second-quarter financial results. We delivered record quarterly revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS.
Carey Dorman: Thanks, Ben. Good morning, everyone. On slide three, you can see a summary of our Q2 financial results. We delivered record quarterly revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS. Organic net sales grew 15%, and constant currency adjusted EBITDA increased 33% year-over-year. Electronics organic net sales growth of 20% was broad-based. Each of the segment's verticals grew organically by double digits, led by our Semiconductor Solutions business, which grew 31% in the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margins, excluding pass-through metals, improved 120 basis points year-over-year to 27.8% this quarter, which was in line with Q1 despite significant sequential non-metal raw material inflation. The year-on-year improvement was primarily driven by product mix, with organic growth in higher value product lines and partially offset by inflation in our Specialties segment, as well as continued OpEx investment to support growth initiatives and fund above target incentive compensation.
Carey Dorman: Thanks, Ben. Good morning, everyone. On slide three, you can see a summary of our Q2 financial results. We delivered record quarterly revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS. Organic net sales grew 15%, and constant currency adjusted EBITDA increased 33% year-over-year. Electronics organic net sales growth of 20% was broad-based.
Speaker #2: Organic net sales grew 15%, and constant currency adjusted EBITDA increased 33% year over year. Electronics organic net sales growth of 20% was broad-based. Each of the segment's verticals grew organically by double digits, led by our semiconductor business, which grew 31% in the quarter.
Carey Dorman: Each of the segment's verticals grew organically by double digits, led by our Semiconductor Solutions business, which grew 31% in the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margins, excluding pass-through metals, improved 120 basis points year-over-year to 27.8% this quarter, which was in line with Q1 despite significant sequential non-metal raw material inflation.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA margins, excluding pass-through metals, improved 120 basis points year over year to 27.8% this quarter, which was in line with the first quarter, despite significant sequential non-metal raw material inflation.
Speaker #2: The year-on-year improvement was primarily driven by product mix, with organic growth and higher value product lines, and was partially offset by inflation in our Specialty segment, as well as continued opex investment to support growth initiatives and fund above-target incentive compensation.
Carey Dorman: The year-on-year improvement was primarily driven by product mix, with organic growth in higher value product lines and partially offset by inflation in our Specialties segment, as well as continued OpEx investment to support growth initiatives and fund above target incentive compensation.
Speaker #2: Building on that last point, if we exclude the above-target component of incentive compensation accruals in the quarter, driven by our outperformance relative to plan, opex in the second quarter would have been more than $10 million lower, and adjusted EBITDA margins would have been nearly 30%, which has been a long-term target for us.
Carey Dorman: Building on that last point, if we exclude the above target component of incentive compensation accruals in the quarter, driven by our outperformance relative to plan, OpEx in Q2 would have been more than $10 million lower, and adjusted EBITDA margins would have been nearly 30%, which has been a long-term target for us. On slide four, we share additional detail on the drivers of organic net sales growth in our two segments. In Electronics, 20% organic growth was driven by sustained investment in AI infrastructure and other high-performance computing applications. Demand remained particularly strong across semiconductor packaging, advanced PCB chemistries, and engineered assembly materials supporting data centers and power electronics. This was more than offset by strength in AI-related applications and continued customer investment in next-generation technologies.
Carey Dorman: Building on that last point, if we exclude the above target component of incentive compensation accruals in the quarter, driven by our outperformance relative to plan, OpEx in Q2 would have been more than $10 million lower, and adjusted EBITDA margins would have been nearly 30%, which has been a long-term target for us. On slide four, we share additional detail on the drivers of organic net sales growth in our two segments.
Speaker #2: On slide four, we share additional detail on the drivers of organic net sales growth in our two segments. In electronics, 20% organic growth was driven by sustained investment in AI infrastructure, and other high-performance computing applications.
Carey Dorman: In Electronics, 20% organic growth was driven by sustained investment in AI infrastructure and other high-performance computing applications. Demand remained particularly strong across semiconductor packaging, advanced PCB chemistries, and engineered assembly materials supporting data centers and power electronics. This was more than offset by strength in AI-related applications and continued customer investment in next-generation technologies.
Speaker #2: Demand remained particularly strong across semiconductor packaging, advanced PCB chemistries, and engineered assembly materials supporting data centers and power electronics. The backdrop remained softer in consumer and automotive markets, but this was more than offset by strength in AI-related applications and continued customer investment in next-generation technologies.
Speaker #2: Semiconductor solutions organic net sales grew 31%, with improved order patterns for power electronics products and growing momentum in thermal interface materials for high power consumption applications such as AI GPUs and CPUs.
Carey Dorman: Semiconductor Solutions organic net sales grew 31%, with improved order patterns for power electronics products and growing momentum in thermal interface materials for high power consumption applications, such as AI GPUs and CPUs. We also saw strong and growing demand for advanced packaging solutions for most apps in Asia. Revenue growth for the products within this business was magnified in the quarter by the substantial year-over-year increase in precious metal prices that are inputs to many of these solutions. The Assembly Solutions business grew 18% organically, supported by broad demand for higher reliability solder paste in Asia, and further enhanced by growth in engineered preform materials used in data center applications. The Indian market continues to show robust growth for assembly as electronics manufacturing supply chain diversification continues.
Carey Dorman: Semiconductor Solutions organic net sales grew 31%, with improved order patterns for power electronics products and growing momentum in thermal interface materials for high power consumption applications, such as AI GPUs and CPUs. We also saw strong and growing demand for advanced packaging solutions for most apps in Asia.
Speaker #2: and growing demand for advanced packaging solutions from OSATs in We also saw strong Asia. Revenue growth for the products within this business was magnified in the quarter by the substantial year-over-year increase in precious metal prices that are inputs to many of these solutions.
Carey Dorman: Revenue growth for the products within this business was magnified in the quarter by the substantial year-over-year increase in precious metal prices that are inputs to many of these solutions.
Speaker #2: The assembly solutions business grew 18% organically, supported by broad demand for high-reliability solder paste in Asia, and further enhanced by growth in engineered preform materials used in data center applications.
Carey Dorman: The Assembly Solutions business grew 18% organically, supported by broad demand for higher reliability solder paste in Asia, and further enhanced by growth in engineered preform materials used in data center applications. The Indian market continues to show robust growth for assembly as electronics manufacturing supply chain diversification continues.
Speaker #2: The Indian market continues to show robust growth for assembly, as electronics manufacturing supply chain diversification continues. Circuitry Solutions net sales improved 15% organically, benefiting from continued demand for metallization solutions tied to AI infrastructure and high-performance compute.
Carey Dorman: Circuitry Solutions net sales improved 15% organically, benefiting from continued demand for metallization solutions tied to AI infrastructure and high-performance compute. We are supporting customers as they add capacity and are seeing traction with technologies that are critical to increasingly complex PCB architectures. Finally, this business is also benefiting from continued growth in Southeast Asia, where we have a strong and expanding presence. Micromax is not included in our organic net sales growth calculation, contributed approximately $130 million to reported sales in the quarter, roughly two-thirds of which is related to metals. The business continues to perform well ahead of plan and is growing revenue and adjusted EBITDA significantly on an ex metals basis. We are very pleased with these results and the progress of the integration.
Carey Dorman: Circuitry Solutions net sales improved 15% organically, benefiting from continued demand for metallization solutions tied to AI infrastructure and high-performance compute. We are supporting customers as they add capacity and are seeing traction with technologies that are critical to increasingly complex PCB architectures.
Speaker #2: We are supporting customers as they add capacity and are seeing traction with technologies that are critical to increasingly complex PCB architectures. Finally, this business has also benefited from continued growth in Southeast Asia, where we have a strong and expanding presence.
Carey Dorman: Finally, this business is also benefiting from continued growth in Southeast Asia, where we have a strong and expanding presence. Micromax is not included in our organic net sales growth calculation, contributed approximately $130 million to reported sales in the quarter, roughly two-thirds of which is related to metals.
Speaker #2: Micromax is not included in our organic net sales growth calculation, but contributed approximately 130 million to reported sales in the quarter, roughly two-thirds of which is related to metals.
Speaker #2: The business continues to perform well ahead of plan and is growing revenue and adjusted EBITDA significantly on an ex-metals basis. We are very pleased with these results and the progress of the integration.
Carey Dorman: The business continues to perform well ahead of plan and is growing revenue and adjusted EBITDA significantly on an ex metals basis. We are very pleased with these results and the progress of the integration.
Speaker #2: Turning to our specialty segment, industrial solutions grew 3% organically in the quarter due to a modest return to growth in European industrial markets early in the quarter, and from global surcharges and price increases tied to rising raw material inflation.
Carey Dorman: Turning to our Specialties segment, Industrial Solutions grew 3% organically in the quarter due to a modest return to growth in European industrial markets early in the quarter, and from global surcharges and price increases tied to rising raw material inflation. This business has been restructuring its go-to-market and supply chain strategy over the last year. We are happy to see the strong execution beginning to play out. Our offshore Energy Solutions business grew 1% organically, slower than Q1, driven by timing impacts and some disruption from the war in Iran. Finally, EFC Gases & Advanced Materials contributed $16 million of revenue in Q2. Demand for electronics, satellites, and electrical infrastructure applications remains strong, though this business is more lumpy than our others. Commercial activity is very healthy. We expect EFC to have a substantially larger H2 sequentially, and we have good visibility into that.
Carey Dorman: Turning to our Specialties segment, Industrial Solutions grew 3% organically in the quarter due to a modest return to growth in European industrial markets early in the quarter, and from global surcharges and price increases tied to rising raw material inflation. This business has been restructuring its go-to-market and supply chain strategy over the last year.
Speaker #2: This business has been restructuring its go-to-market and supply chain strategy over the last year. We are happy to see the strong execution beginning to play out.
Carey Dorman: We are happy to see the strong execution beginning to play out. Our offshore Energy Solutions business grew 1% organically, slower than Q1, driven by timing impacts and some disruption from the war in Iran. Finally, EFC Gases & Advanced Materials contributed $16 million of revenue in Q2.
Speaker #2: Our offshore energy solutions business grew 1% organically, slower than Q1, driven by timing impact and some disruption from the war in Iran. Finally, EFC gas is an advanced materials contributed 16 million of revenue in the second quarter.
Speaker #2: Demand for electronics, satellite, and electrical infrastructure applications remains strong, though this business is more lumpy than our others. Commercial activity is very healthy, and we expect EFC to have a substantially larger second half, sequentially, and we have good visibility into that.
Carey Dorman: Demand for electronics, satellites, and electrical infrastructure applications remains strong, though this business is more lumpy than our others. Commercial activity is very healthy. We expect EFC to have a substantially larger H2 sequentially, and we have good visibility into that.
Speaker #2: The EFC team is executing at a high level, growing wallet share with existing semiconductor and space customers, and winning new qualifications in both. Slide five addresses cash flow and the balance sheet.
Carey Dorman: The EFC team is executing at a high level, growing wallet share with existing semiconductor and space customers, and winning new qualifications in both. Slide five addresses cash flow and the balance sheet. Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $74 million, a strong increase sequentially and year-over-year. With metal prices relatively stable, we have seen the benefit of the higher earnings growth we are experiencing this year. We did continue to invest in working capital, albeit more modestly, as we continue to see increased volume demand across the business. The cadence of our cash generation is typically more H2-weighted, and we expect this year to follow a similar pattern, assuming metal prices stay at current levels. On the capital expenditure side, we invested $28 million this quarter, bringing year-to-date investment to over $50 million.
Carey Dorman: The EFC team is executing at a high level, growing wallet share with existing semiconductor and space customers, and winning new qualifications in both. Slide five addresses cash flow and the balance sheet. Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $74 million, a strong increase sequentially and year-over-year. With metal prices relatively stable, we have seen the benefit of the higher earnings growth we are experiencing this year.
Speaker #2: Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $74 million, a strong increase sequentially and year over year. With metal prices relatively stable, we have seen the benefit of the higher earnings growth we are experiencing this year.
Speaker #2: We did continue to invest in working capital, albeit more modestly, as we continue to see increased volume demand across the business. The cadence of our cash generation is typically more second-half weighted, and we expect this year to follow a similar pattern, assuming metal prices stay at current levels.
Carey Dorman: We did continue to invest in working capital, albeit more modestly, as we continue to see increased volume demand across the business. The cadence of our cash generation is typically more H2-weighted, and we expect this year to follow a similar pattern, assuming metal prices stay at current levels. On the capital expenditure side, we invested $28 million this quarter, bringing year-to-date investment to over $50 million.
Speaker #2: On the capital expenditure side, we invested $28 million this quarter, bringing year-to-date investment to over $50 million. As we have discussed, we are accelerating investment in certain high-value product areas such as Cuprion and thermal interface materials for hyperscale customers.
Carey Dorman: As we have discussed, we are accelerating investment in certain high-value product areas, such as Cuprion and thermal interface materials for hyperscale customers, while at the same time moving aggressively on existing plant consolidation projects and our Industrial Solutions supply chain. We now expect CapEx for the year to be roughly $100 million, which is on the higher end of the guidance range we provided last quarter, though it's still less than 3% of sales. These are high-returning projects with attractive paybacks that support long-term growth. Turning to the balance sheet, our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 2.9x on a pro forma basis, including Micromax and EFC. Given earnings strength and expected cash flow, we anticipate reducing leverage to roughly 2.5x by the end of the year. With that, I will turn the call back to Ben.
Carey Dorman: As we have discussed, we are accelerating investment in certain high-value product areas, such as Cuprion and thermal interface materials for hyperscale customers, while at the same time moving aggressively on existing plant consolidation projects and our Industrial Solutions supply chain. We now expect CapEx for the year to be roughly $100 million, which is on the higher end of the guidance range we provided last quarter, though it's still less than 3% of sales.
Speaker #2: While at the same time moving aggressively on existing plant consolidation projects and our Industrial Solutions supply chain. We now expect capex for the year to be roughly $100 million, which is on the higher end of the guidance range we provided last quarter, though it's still less than 3% of sales.
Speaker #2: These are high-returning projects with attractive paybacks that support long-term growth. Turning to the balance sheet, our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 2.9 times on a pro forma basis, including Micromax and EFC.
Carey Dorman: These are high-returning projects with attractive paybacks that support long-term growth. Turning to the balance sheet, our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 2.9x on a pro forma basis, including Micromax and EFC. Given earnings strength and expected cash flow, we anticipate reducing leverage to roughly 2.5x by the end of the year. With that, I will turn the call back to Ben.
Speaker #2: Given earnings strength and expected cash flow, we anticipate reducing leverage to roughly 2.5x by the end of the year. And with that, I will turn the call back to Ben.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Kerry. Our company is strong and well-positioned in attractive growth markets. In each of our businesses, we've identified opportunities and built strategies to deliver substantial profit growth through investment in people and capabilities over a multi-year timeframe.
Ben Gliklich: Thank you, Carey. Our company is strong and well-positioned in attractive growth markets. In each of our businesses, we've identified opportunities and built strategies to deliver substantial profit growth through investment in people and capabilities over a multi-year timeframe. We pride ourselves on customer centricity, and on this front, we're seeing the fruits of persistent investments in technical service capabilities, technology roadmap exchanges, and a focus on customer pain points where we can improve product performance or customer productivity. Organic acceleration in H1, and in particular, the sources of that growth, give us confidence in a strong year and momentum into 2027. Underlying demand in the high-end electronics market remains. The positions we've established in the fastest-growing, highest-value niches of these markets should serve us well.
Ben Gliklich: Thank you, Carey. Our company is strong and well-positioned in attractive growth markets. In each of our businesses, we've identified opportunities and built strategies to deliver substantial profit growth through investment in people and capabilities over a multi-year timeframe.
Speaker #1: We pride ourselves on customer centricity, and on this front, we're seeing the fruits of persistent investments in technical service capabilities, technology roadmap exchanges, and a focus on customer pain points—where we can improve product performance or customer productivity.
Ben Gliklich: We pride ourselves on customer centricity, and on this front, we're seeing the fruits of persistent investments in technical service capabilities, technology roadmap exchanges, and a focus on customer pain points where we can improve product performance or customer productivity.
Speaker #1: Organic acceleration in the first half, and in particular the sources of that growth, give us confidence in a strong year and momentum into 2027.
Ben Gliklich: Organic acceleration in H1, and in particular, the sources of that growth, give us confidence in a strong year and momentum into 2027. Underlying demand in the high-end electronics market remains. The positions we've established in the fastest-growing, highest-value niches of these markets should serve us well.
Speaker #1: Underlying demand in the high-end electronics market remains, and the positions we've established in the fastest growing highest value niches of these markets should serve us well.
Speaker #1: As a result, we are raising our adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $690 to $710 million for the full year. This range reflects the trends we saw in the first half, combined with ongoing execution of our strategic roadmaps in each of our businesses, while taking into account the one-time benefits of metal hedge gains realized in the first half of 2026, having recorded the associated costs in the second half of 2025.
Ben Gliklich: As a result, we are raising our adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $690 to 710 million for the full year. This range reflects the trends we saw in H1, combined with ongoing execution of our strategic roadmaps in each of our businesses while taking into account the one-time benefits of metal hedge gains realized in H1 2026, having recorded the associated costs in H2 2025. We expect Q3 adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $180 million, with demand conditions sequentially similar to H1, and taking into consideration some risk from raw material and logistics inflation that we may not recapture immediately through improved pricing and sourcing actions. We now expect 2026 adjusted EPS growth of approximately 20% on a full year basis.
Ben Gliklich: As a result, we are raising our adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $690 to 710 million for the full year. This range reflects the trends we saw in H1, combined with ongoing execution of our strategic roadmaps in each of our businesses while taking into account the one-time benefits of metal hedge gains realized in H1 2026, having recorded the associated costs in H2 2025.
Speaker #1: We expect third-quarter adjusted EBITDA to be approximately 180 million dollars, with demand conditions sequentially similar to the first half, and taking into consideration some risk from raw material and logistics inflations that we may not recapture immediately through improved pricing and sourcing actions.
Ben Gliklich: We expect Q3 adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $180 million, with demand conditions sequentially similar to H1, and taking into consideration some risk from raw material and logistics inflation that we may not recapture immediately through improved pricing and sourcing actions. We now expect 2026 adjusted EPS growth of approximately 20% on a full year basis.
Speaker #1: We now expect 2026 adjusted EPS growth of approximately 20% on a full-year basis. Element Solutions is executing very well, and the proposed Solstice transaction is recognition of what we've done, what we're doing today, and what we're capable of doing in the future.
Ben Gliklich: Element Solutions is executing very well, and the proposed Solstice transaction is recognition of what we've done, what we're doing today, and what we're capable of doing in the future. From a foundation of remarkable predecessor companies like MacDermid, Enthone, Alpha, Micromax, EFC, Coventya, Kester, HK Wentworth, OM Group, Polytechnic, and Cuprion, we built something bigger and greater than any of them could be individually. We don't forget the histories of those businesses, which are far longer than our own, and also that those businesses were built on the shoulders of others that came before them. We're immensely proud of this chapter, but it is not the first, nor clearly will it be the last for our businesses.
Ben Gliklich: Element Solutions is executing very well, and the proposed Solstice transaction is recognition of what we've done, what we're doing today, and what we're capable of doing in the future. From a foundation of remarkable predecessor companies like MacDermid, Enthone, Alpha, Micromax, EFC, Coventya, Kester, HK Wentworth, OM Group, Polytechnic, and Cuprion, we built something bigger and greater than any of them could be individually.
Speaker #1: From a foundation of remarkable predecessor companies, like McDermott, Ensome, Alpha, Micromax, EFC, Coventia, Kester, HK Wentworth, OM Group, Polytechnic, and Cuprion, we've built something bigger and greater than any of them could be individually.
Speaker #1: We don't forget the histories of those businesses, which are far longer than our own. And also that those businesses were built on the shoulders of others that came before them.
Ben Gliklich: We don't forget the histories of those businesses, which are far longer than our own, and also that those businesses were built on the shoulders of others that came before them. We're immensely proud of this chapter, but it is not the first, nor clearly will it be the last for our businesses.
Speaker #1: We're immensely proud of this chapter, but it is not the first, nor clearly will it be the last, for our businesses. So for now, let me conclude once again by thanking all of our stakeholders for their continued support of Element Solutions, and in particular, our people, who are entirely responsible for all of our success in the past and our potential in the future.
Ben Gliklich: For now, let me conclude once again by thanking all of our stakeholders for their continued support of Element Solutions, and in particular, our people who are entirely responsible for all of our success in the past and our potential in the future. With that, operator, please open the line for questions. As a reminder, we will not be taking questions on the recently announced proposed merger with Solstice. Thank you.
Ben Gliklich: For now, let me conclude once again by thanking all of our stakeholders for their continued support of Element Solutions, and in particular, our people who are entirely responsible for all of our success in the past and our potential in the future. With that, operator, please open the line for questions. As a reminder, we will not be taking questions on the recently announced proposed merger with Solstice. Thank you.
Speaker #1: With that, operator, please open the line for questions. As a reminder, we will not be taking questions on the recently announced proposed merger with Solstice.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
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Speaker #4: Yeah, hey, good morning, guys, and congrats on a solid quarter here. I wanted to just ask around really kind of your expectations here for the second half and kind of the phasing that's baked into your guidance.
Josh Spector: Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys, and congrats on a solid quarter here. I wanted to just ask around really kind of your expectations here for the H2 and kind of the phasing that's baked into your guidance. You don't have the typical Q3 uplift, but that's more smartphone driven. What's your assumption there? Just within the rest of it, that's obviously having a big uplift around the data center side. Do you think there's further acceleration that pulls more into it, or are you assuming that you're kind of stable from here? Thanks.
Josh Spector: Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys, and congrats on a solid quarter here. I wanted to just ask around really kind of your expectations here for the H2 and kind of the phasing that's baked into your guidance. You don't have the typical Q3 uplift, but that's more smartphone driven.
Speaker #4: You don't have the typical 3Q uplift, but that's more smartphone driven. So what's your assumption there? And then just within the rest of it, that's obviously having a big uplift around the data center side.
Josh Spector: What's your assumption there? Just within the rest of it, that's obviously having a big uplift around the data center side. Do you think there's further acceleration that pulls more into it, or are you assuming that you're kind of stable from here? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Do you think there's further acceleration that pulls more into it, or are you assuming that you're kind of stable from here? Thanks.
Speaker #1: Sure thing, Josh. Thanks for the question and feedback. The way to explain sequential performance here is threefold. Continuation of the strong demand that we've seen through the second quarter across the electronics complex. We are not expecting the typical seasonal ramp in the smartphone market, just given what's been a very weak consumer electronics backdrop.
Ben Gliklich: Sure thing, Josh. Thanks for the question and feedback. The way to explain sequential performance here is threefold. Continuation of the strong demand that we've seen through the Q2 across the electronics complex. We are not expecting the typical seasonal ramp in the smartphone market, just given what's been a very weak consumer electronics backdrop. We've outperformed that year-to-date, but we're not counting on a substantial ramp. We're factoring a headwind from raw material and logistics inflation driven by the conflict in Iran, and we're factoring in a modest softening in Micromax, which has been the biggest source of outperformance on a year-to-date basis, and that gets you to a roughly flat sequential performance.
Ben Gliklich: Sure thing, Josh. Thanks for the question and feedback. The way to explain sequential performance here is threefold. Continuation of the strong demand that we've seen through the Q2 across the electronics complex. We are not expecting the typical seasonal ramp in the smartphone market, just given what's been a very weak consumer electronics backdrop.
Speaker #1: We've outperformed that year-to-date, but we're not counting on a substantial ramp. We're factoring a headwind from raw material and logistics inflation driven by the conflict in Iran, and we're factoring in a modest softening in Micromax, which has been the biggest source of outperformance.
Ben Gliklich: We've outperformed that year-to-date, but we're not counting on a substantial ramp. We're factoring a headwind from raw material and logistics inflation driven by the conflict in Iran, and we're factoring in a modest softening in Micromax, which has been the biggest source of outperformance on a year-to-date basis, and that gets you to a roughly flat sequential performance.
Speaker #1: On a year-to-date basis, that gets you to a roughly flat sequential performance. Then, for Q4, we're basically just thinking about normal seasonality and fewer operating days given the holidays, so things drop off a little bit.
Ben Gliklich: For Q4, we're basically just thinking that normal seasonality and fewer operating days given the holidays, so things drop off a little bit from Q3 to Q4, and that's how we get to our full year guide.
Ben Gliklich: For Q4, we're basically just thinking that normal seasonality and fewer operating days given the holidays, so things drop off a little bit from Q3 to Q4, and that's how we get to our full year guide.
Speaker #1: From Q3 to Q4, and that's how we get to our full-year guide.
Speaker #4: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. I just wanted to ask at a high level generally just I mean, if continuing to execute well on a standalone basis, you're investing more in Cuprion I guess outside of the cost savings that you see from the combination with Solstice, what does the ESI as a standalone shareholder not get in the ESI standalone that you see them getting in the combined basis?
Josh Spector: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. I just wanted to ask at a high level, generally, just you're continuing to execute well on a standalone basis. You're investing more in Cuprion. I guess outside of the cost savings that you see from the combination with Solstice, what does ESI, as a standalone shareholder, not get in ESI standalone that you see them getting in the combined basis? Are there big sales opportunities you think you miss out on? Is there something that's missing in terms of the Cuprion build-out? Just any help expanding on that a little bit, please.
Josh Spector: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. I just wanted to ask at a high level, generally, just you're continuing to execute well on a standalone basis. You're investing more in Cuprion. I guess outside of the cost savings that you see from the combination with Solstice, what does ESI, as a standalone shareholder, not get in ESI standalone that you see them getting in the combined basis?
Speaker #4: Are there big sales opportunities you think you miss out on? Is there something kind of that's missing in terms of the Cuprion kind of build-out?
Josh Spector: Are there big sales opportunities you think you miss out on? Is there something that's missing in terms of the Cuprion build-out? Just any help expanding on that a little bit, please.
Speaker #4: Could you just help by expanding on that a little bit, please?
Speaker #1: Yeah, look, we really don't want to take questions relating to the merger announcement with Solstice. And we've made plenty of public disclosure and also comments in the prepared remarks.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Look, we really don't want to take questions relating to the merger announcement with Solstice. We've made plenty of public disclosure and also comments in the prepared remarks. I'll limit my comments to what we just said in the prepared remarks, which is that this broader electronic portfolio advantages our collective shareholders in terms of the breadth of what we can offer to our customers and our customers' customers at an increasingly pivotal time for innovation in the supply chain.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Look, we really don't want to take questions relating to the merger announcement with Solstice. We've made plenty of public disclosure and also comments in the prepared remarks.
Speaker #1: I'll limit my comments to what we just said in the prepared remarks, which is that this broader electronic portfolio advantages our collective shareholders in terms of the breadth of what we can offer to our customers and our customers' customers at an increasingly pivotal time for innovation in the supply chain.
Ben Gliklich: I'll limit my comments to what we just said in the prepared remarks, which is that this broader electronic portfolio advantages our collective shareholders in terms of the breadth of what we can offer to our customers and our customers' customers at an increasingly pivotal time for innovation in the supply chain.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks, man.
Josh Spector: Okay. Thanks, Ben.
Josh Spector: Okay. Thanks, Ben.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Babish Lodaya. From BMO Capital Markets, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of Bhavesh Lodaya from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bhavesh Lodaya from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hi, good morning, Ben. A separate question just on ESI. In the past, we have discussed that splitting your company into electronics and non-electronics was possible, but there was too much effort, too much brain damage that too many shared assets.
Bhavesh Lodaya: Hi. Good morning, Ben. A separate question-
Bhavesh Lodaya: Hi. Good morning, Ben. A separate question-
Ben Gliklich: Sorry
Ben Gliklich: Sorry
Bhavesh Lodaya: Just on ESI. In the past, we have discussed that splitting the company into electronics and non-electronics was possible, there was too much efforts, too much brain damage, there are too many shared assets. Is that the same view today? Would you have an updated number for what the dissynergies could look like if you were to split the company today?
Bhavesh Lodaya: Just on ESI. In the past, we have discussed that splitting the company into electronics and non-electronics was possible, there was too much efforts, too much brain damage, there are too many shared assets. Is that the same view today? Would you have an updated number for what the dissynergies could look like if you were to split the company today?
Speaker #5: Is that the same view today? And would you have an updated number for what the dis-synergies could look like if you were to split the company today?
Ben Gliklich: Look, as we've always been clear, that we've got a great portfolio at Element of high-quality businesses. They're market-leading businesses with durable moats, customer intimacy, and tremendous cash flows. We've also been clear that we're not emotional about any of our businesses, if someone is willing to offer value in excess of what we believe fair value for our business, plus the, we'll call it brain damage and separation costs associated with carving out businesses would be, that we're open-minded about those types of transactions. We think our portfolio is very well-positioned for long-term growth across all of its end markets and vectors aren't currently contemplating any such transaction. It's sort of a moot point as we sit here today.
Speaker #1: So look, as we've always been clear, we've got a great portfolio at Element of high-quality businesses—market-leading businesses with durable moats, customer intimacy, and tremendous cash flows.
Ben Gliklich: Look, as we've always been clear, that we've got a great portfolio at Element of high-quality businesses. They're market-leading businesses with durable moats, customer intimacy, and tremendous cash flows. We've also been clear that we're not emotional about any of our businesses, if someone is willing to offer value in excess of what we believe fair value for our business, plus the,
Speaker #1: We've also been clear that we're not emotional about any of our businesses. And if someone is willing to offer value in excess of what we believe fair value for a business—plus the, we'll call it, brain damage and separation costs associated with carving out businesses would be—then we're open-minded about those types of transactions.
Ben Gliklich: we'll call it brain damage and separation costs associated with carving out businesses would be, that we're open-minded about those types of transactions. We think our portfolio is very well-positioned for long-term growth across all of its end markets and vectors aren't currently contemplating any such transaction. It's sort of a moot point as we sit here today.
Speaker #1: We think our portfolio is very well positioned for long-term growth across all of its end markets and vectors, and we're not currently contemplating any such transaction.
Speaker #1: It's sort of a moot point, as we sit here today.
Speaker #5: Got it. And then, as we think about the electronics earnings from here, obviously metals pricing has created a bit of volatility in the sales side of things.
Bhavesh Lodaya: Got it. As we think about the electronics earnings from here, obviously metals pricing has created a bit of volatility in the sales side of things. How would you say a deflationary metal pricing environment plays out over the next 1 year or so?
Bhavesh Lodaya: Got it. As we think about the electronics earnings from here, obviously metals pricing has created a bit of volatility in the sales side of things. How would you say a deflationary metal pricing environment plays out over the next 1 year or so?
Speaker #5: How would you say a deflationary metals pricing environment plays out over the next one year?
Speaker #1: Yeah, so obviously, we've seen the impact of higher metal prices on the top line. We try to adjust for that as best we can.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Obviously we've seen the impact of higher metal prices on the top line. We try to adjust for that as best as we can with our ex metals, both margins and organic growth numbers. There is a bit of metal in assorted parts of the portfolio, whether that's nickel in our industrial business or some precious metals in our wafer-level packaging businesses. For the most part, we don't realize margins on metals. When metal prices go up, that gives us a little bit of an opportunity to take price in some of our businesses, Micromax being one of them. Deflationary metals pricing should not have a material impact on profit dollars.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Obviously we've seen the impact of higher metal prices on the top line. We try to adjust for that as best as we can with our ex metals, both margins and organic growth numbers. There is a bit of metal in assorted parts of the portfolio, whether that's nickel in our industrial business or some precious metals in our wafer-level packaging businesses.
Speaker #1: With our ex-metals, both margins and organic growth numbers, there is a bit of metal in assorted parts of the portfolio, whether that's nickel in our industrial business or some precious metals in our wafer-level packaging businesses.
Speaker #1: And for the most part, we don't realize margins on metals. When metal prices go up, that gives us a little bit of an opportunity to take price in some of our businesses, Micromax being one of them. But deflationary metals pricing should not have a material impact on profit dollars.
Ben Gliklich: For the most part, we don't realize margins on metals. When metal prices go up, that gives us a little bit of an opportunity to take price in some of our businesses, Micromax being one of them. Deflationary metals pricing should not have a material impact on profit dollars.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you.
Bhavesh Lodaya: Great. Thank you.
Bhavesh Lodaya: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi, good morning. I was hoping that you could give a little bit more detail on the Micromax business. It seems like the second quarter was again ahead of expectations and you're kind of indicating that maybe you don't expect that strength to continue is that just some lumpiness inherent in the business?
Mike Harrison: Hi. Good morning. Was hoping that you could give a little bit more detail on the Micromax business. It seems like the Q2 was again ahead of expectations, and you're kind of indicating that maybe you don't expect that strength to continue. Is that just some lumpiness inherent in the business? Maybe just give a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about the outlook there.
Mike Harrison: Hi. Good morning. Was hoping that you could give a little bit more detail on the Micromax business. It seems like the Q2 was again ahead of expectations, and you're kind of indicating that maybe you don't expect that strength to continue. Is that just some lumpiness inherent in the business? Maybe just give a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about the outlook there.
Speaker #6: Maybe just give a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about the outlook there.
Speaker #1: Yeah, sure thing, Mike. So, Micromax has been performing exceptionally well out of the gates. That's volume-driven and, to some extent, pricing-driven. We have been opportunistic around pricing given the metals volatility, and that's contributed to substantial earnings outperformance.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah, sure thing, Mike. Micromax has been performing exceptionally well out of the gates. That's volume driven, to some extent, pricing driven. We have been opportunistic around pricing given the metals volatility, that's contributed to substantial earnings outperformance. We also started the year with a somewhat conservative assumption for what the business could be this year. The numbers you see in our disclosure around Micromax aren't burdened by some of the, we'll call it standalone costs or integration-related costs that we've had to add at the Element level to support that business. Maybe it's represented as modestly greater than its underlying contribution. Given it's a relatively new business for us and we're still getting more familiar with its earnings cadence, we thought it prudent to be somewhat conservative relative to the current run rate as we look to the H2.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah, sure thing, Mike. Micromax has been performing exceptionally well out of the gates. That's volume driven, to some extent, pricing driven. We have been opportunistic around pricing given the metals volatility, that's contributed to substantial earnings outperformance. We also started the year with a somewhat conservative assumption for what the business could be this year.
Speaker #1: We also started the year with a somewhat conservative assumption for what the business could be. This year, the numbers you see in our disclosure around Micromax aren't burdened by some of the, we'll call it, standalone costs or integration-related costs that we've had to add at the Element level to support that business.
Ben Gliklich: The numbers you see in our disclosure around Micromax aren't burdened by some of the, we'll call it standalone costs or integration-related costs that we've had to add at the Element level to support that business. Maybe it's represented as modestly greater than its underlying contribution.
Speaker #1: So maybe it’s modestly, it’s represented as modestly greater than its underlying contribution. But given it’s a relatively new business for us and we’re still getting more familiar with its earnings cadence, we thought it prudent to be somewhat conservative relative to the current run rate as we look to the back half.
Ben Gliklich: Given it's a relatively new business for us and we're still getting more familiar with its earnings cadence, we thought it prudent to be somewhat conservative relative to the current run rate as we look to the H2.
Speaker #6: All right, thanks for that. And then my second question is on the power electronics business. Just trying to understand how much of the strength that you're seeing there is related to some improvement in underlying markets.
Mike Harrison: Thanks for that. Then my second question is on the power electronics business. Just trying to understand how much of the strength that you're seeing there is related to some improvement in underlying markets, and how much might be more related to you guys finding new applications, new customers, and those customers maybe starting to ramp some of those new applications.
Mike Harrison: Thanks for that. Then my second question is on the power electronics business. Just trying to understand how much of the strength that you're seeing there is related to some improvement in underlying markets, and how much might be more related to you guys finding new applications, new customers, and those customers maybe starting to ramp some of those new applications.
Speaker #6: And how much might be more related to you guys finding new applications, new customers, and those customers maybe starting to ramp some of those new applications?
Speaker #1: Yeah, Mike, this is Carrie. So I think the answer is both. In Q2 in particular, power electronics and the EV business are performing quite well, both with our legacy customers and the expanding customers, particularly in Asia.
Carey Dorman: Yeah, Mike, this is Carey. I think the answer is both. In Q2 in particular, power electronics are the EV business, performed quite well, both with our legacy customers and the expanding customers particularly in Asia. That has been somewhat of a volatile set of end markets. We expect some of that volatility to continue, but really good strength there. Then we have been seeing expanding applications in data center power modules and other, let's say, emerging applications tied to AI and high-performance compute. We expect those customer wins and those trends to continue. A nice mix of both.
Carey Dorman: Yeah, Mike, this is Carey. I think the answer is both. In Q2 in particular, power electronics are the EV business, performed quite well, both with our legacy customers and the expanding customers particularly in Asia. That has been somewhat of a volatile set of end markets.
Speaker #1: That has been somewhat of a volatile set of end markets. We expect that some of that volatility to continue. But really good strength there.
Carey Dorman: We expect some of that volatility to continue, but really good strength there. Then we have been seeing expanding applications in data center power modules and other, let's say, emerging applications tied to AI and high-performance compute. We expect those customer wins and those trends to continue. A nice mix of both.
Speaker #1: And then we have been seeing expanding applications in data center power modules and other such the emerging applications tied to AI and high-performance compute.
Speaker #1: And we expect those customer wins and those trends to continue, so a nice mix of both.
Speaker #6: Yeah, there's a lot of runway for the power electronics portfolio. Thanks very much.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. There's a lot of runway for the power electronics portfolio.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. There's a lot of runway for the power electronics portfolio.
Mike Harrison: Thanks very much.
Mike Harrison: Thanks very much.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Your line is open—please go ahead.
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Speaker #6: Great. Good morning. Ben, I know it's difficult to ascertain at times, but just in terms of advanced packaging trends, where are you specifically fit in?
Chris Parkinson: Great. Good morning. Ben, I know it's difficult to ascertain at times, but just in terms of advanced packaging trends, where you specifically fit in, which crosses both assembly and some circuitry, can you just do your best to parse out, kind of what's driving those businesses, where you think you're performing relative to the market, and where roughly you think you should be on a run rate basis? Thank you so much.
Chris Parkinson: Great. Good morning. Ben, I know it's difficult to ascertain at times, but just in terms of advanced packaging trends, where you specifically fit in, which crosses both assembly and some circuitry, can you just do your best to parse out, kind of what's driving those businesses, where you think you're performing relative to the market, and where roughly you think you should be on a run rate basis? Thank you so much.
Speaker #6: Which crosses both assembly and some circuitry. Can you do your best to parse out what's driving those businesses, and where you think you're performing relative to the market?
Speaker #6: And where you should—where roughly you think you should be on a run-rate basis? Thank you so much.
Speaker #1: Yeah, sure thing, Chris. So, our advanced packaging portfolio is performing quite well. We've seen substantial growth. We've always said advanced packaging is somewhat of a generic term.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Sure thing, Chris. Our advanced packaging portfolio is performing quite well. We've seen substantial growth. As we've always said, advanced packaging is somewhat of a generic term. To say this specific product is an advanced packaging product, we sell one product that goes across multiple different substrates into different types of boards, it's hard to be very precise in that regard. I'd say really strong traction, I would say share gain in the IC substrate, the package substrate portion of our circuitry business. Our high-end pace business and assembly is performing very well. Our wafer-level packaging business is performing very well.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Sure thing, Chris. Our advanced packaging portfolio is performing quite well. We've seen substantial growth. As we've always said, advanced packaging is somewhat of a generic term. To say this specific product is an advanced packaging product, we sell one product that goes across multiple different substrates into different types of boards, it's hard to be very precise in that regard.
Speaker #1: So to say, this specific product is an advanced packaging product. We sell one product that goes across multiple different substrates into different types of boards.
Speaker #1: So it's hard to be very precise in that regard. But I would say really strong traction. I would say share gain in the IC substrate—the package substrate—portion of our circuitry business.
Ben Gliklich: I'd say really strong traction, I would say share gain in the IC substrate, the package substrate portion of our circuitry business. Our high-end pace business and assembly is performing very well. Our wafer-level packaging business is performing very well.
Speaker #1: Our high-end paste business and assembly is performing very well. Our wafer-level packaging business is performing very well. But what's most exciting around advanced packaging is that we're really, right now, in the crucible of establishing processes of record for the transition from Co-op to Co-pass.
Ben Gliklich: What's most exciting around advanced packaging, that we're really right now in the crucible of establishing processes of record for the transition from CoWoS to CoPoS and other emerging technologies that we expect to ramp, call it 18 months from now, and become very big markets for us. We feel confident that we're going to win those pieces of business and the advanced packaging business will accelerate as we move into 2027 and 2028.
Ben Gliklich: What's most exciting around advanced packaging, that we're really right now in the crucible of establishing processes of record for the transition from CoWoS to CoPoS and other emerging technologies that we expect to ramp, call it 18 months from now, and become very big markets for us. We feel confident that we're going to win those pieces of business and the advanced packaging business will accelerate as we move into 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #1: And other emerging technologies that we expect to ramp—call it 18 months from now—and become very big markets for us. We feel confident that we're going to win those pieces of business.
Speaker #1: And the advanced packaging business will accelerate as we move into 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #6: Got it. And just switching over to Sammy, could you just give us what you're willing to give on breaking down the organic growth?
Chris Parkinson: Got it. Just switching over to semi, could you just give us what your willingness to give on just breaking down the organic growth in semi, between precious metals, volume price? It seems like you're doing very well in the wafer plating chemistries, likely gaining share is my guess. Could you just do your best to kind of break that down for us and how we should once again interpret that for the H2 and into 2027? Thank you.
Chris Parkinson: Got it. Just switching over to semi, could you just give us what your willingness to give on just breaking down the organic growth in semi, between precious metals, volume price? It seems like you're doing very well in the wafer plating chemistries, likely gaining share is my guess. Could you just do your best to kind of break that down for us and how we should once again interpret that for the H2 and into 2027? Thank you.
Speaker #6: And Sammy, between precious metals, volume, and price, it seems like you're doing very well in the wafer plating chemistries—likely gaining shares, is my guess. Could you do your best to kind of break that down for us, and how we should once again interpret that for the second half and into '27?
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Yeah, Chris, this is Carrie. I'll speak about the current performance and, I think, expectations for this year. So, both the power electronics and the wafer plating businesses saw volume growth in the high teens.
Carey Dorman: Yeah, Chris, this is Carey. I'll speak about the current performance and I think expectations for this year. Both the power electronics and the wafer plating businesses saw volume growth in the high teens. Then both businesses benefited from additional pricing tied to precious metals, silver and gold primarily, respectively. If you think about the total 30%+ organic growth we showed in the quarter, call it 60% to two-thirds of it, would've been volume and the rest would've been price mix. I think we expect that volume trend to continue throughout the rest of the year. I made the comment a few minutes ago around the power electronics business specifically, again, a growing part of that business is tied to data center applications.
Carey Dorman: Yeah, Chris, this is Carey. I'll speak about the current performance and I think expectations for this year. Both the power electronics and the wafer plating businesses saw volume growth in the high teens. Then both businesses benefited from additional pricing tied to precious metals, silver and gold primarily, respectively.
Speaker #1: And then both businesses benefited from additional pricing tied to precious metals. Yeah, silver and gold primarily, respectively. So if you think about the total 30-plus percent organic growth we showed in the quarter, call it 60 to two-thirds of it would have been volume and the rest would have been price mix.
Carey Dorman: If you think about the total 30%+ organic growth we showed in the quarter, call it 60% to two-thirds of it, would've been volume and the rest would've been price mix. I think we expect that volume trend to continue throughout the rest of the year. I made the comment a few minutes ago around the power electronics business specifically, again, a growing part of that business is tied to data center applications.
Speaker #1: I think we expect that volume trend to continue throughout the rest of the year. I made the comment a few minutes ago around the power electronics business specifically.
Speaker #1: And again, a growing part of that business is tied to data center applications. But there's still the majority of that business is still tied to power electronics for electric vehicles, which again, does have some volatility.
Carey Dorman: The majority of that business is still tied to power electronics for electric vehicles, which again, does have some volatility, we're taking a little bit of a conservative view on that through the rest of the year. I think it's too early to comment on 2027.
Carey Dorman: The majority of that business is still tied to power electronics for electric vehicles, which again, does have some volatility, we're taking a little bit of a conservative view on that through the rest of the year. I think it's too early to comment on 2027.
Speaker #1: And we're taking a little bit of a conservative view on that through the rest of the year. I think it's too early to comment on 2027.
Speaker #6: Got it. Thank you very much.
Chris Parkinson: Got it. Thank you very much.
Chris Parkinson: Got it. Thank you very much.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of Peter Osterland with Truist. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Pete Osterlin with Truist. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to start with an update on Couprion. Could you size approximately the revenue you expect to see in 2027 from Couprion?
Peter Osterland: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just wanted to start with an update on Cuprion. Could you size approximately the revenue you expect to see in 2027 from Cuprion? Just more broadly, as you ramp, will it all be truly incremental? Do you expect any cannibalization of existing sales?
Peter Osterland: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just wanted to start with an update on Cuprion. Could you size approximately the revenue you expect to see in 2027 from Cuprion? Just more broadly, as you ramp, will it all be truly incremental? Do you expect any cannibalization of existing sales?
Speaker #7: And just more broadly, as you ramp, will it all be truly incremental? Do you expect any cannibalization of existing sales?
Speaker #6: Thanks for the question, Pete. So Couprion is a good story over the course of the quarter. We identified ways to get more product, more capacity out of our initial plant in Fremont, which is now sampling and qualifying material with customers.
Ben Gliklich: Thanks for the question, Pete. Cuprion's a good story. Over the course of the quarter, we identified ways to get more product, more capacity out of our initial plant in Fremont, which is now sampling and qualifying material with customers. We were able to expand our plan for our second Fremont site and made progress towards construction of the third site, which will be in Connecticut. The sort of takeaway from all of that is our expectations for Cuprion or active copper capacity by year-end 2027 increased pretty materially over the course of the second quarter. From a commercialization perspective, we're making really good progress, and we have customers pulling the product very aggressively, which should translate into material revenue in 2027 and profit contribution.
Ben Gliklich: Thanks for the question, Pete. Cuprion's a good story. Over the course of the quarter, we identified ways to get more product, more capacity out of our initial plant in Fremont, which is now sampling and qualifying material with customers. We were able to expand our plan for our second Fremont site and made progress towards construction of the third site, which will be in Connecticut.
Speaker #6: And we were able to expand our plan for our second Fremont site and made progress towards construction of the third site, which will be in Connecticut.
Speaker #6: So, the sort of takeaway from all of that is our expectations for Couprion, or active copper, capacity by year-end 2027 increased pretty materially over the course of the second quarter.
Ben Gliklich: The sort of takeaway from all of that is our expectations for Cuprion or active copper capacity by year-end 2027 increased pretty materially over the course of the second quarter. From a commercialization perspective, we're making really good progress, and we have customers pulling the product very aggressively, which should translate into material revenue in 2027 and profit contribution.
Speaker #6: From a commercialization perspective, we're making really good progress, and we have customers pulling the product very aggressively, which should translate into material revenue in 2027.
Speaker #6: And profit contribution. It's dangerous to size these things because that second site in California may come online in the middle or latter part of the year.
Ben Gliklich: It's dangerous to size these things because that second site in California may come online in the middle of the year or the latter part of the year, that will have a pretty big impact on what revenue we can expect. The outlook for 2028, for instance, is very robust from a revenue and profit perspective given our capacity plans.
Ben Gliklich: It's dangerous to size these things because that second site in California may come online in the middle of the year or the latter part of the year, that will have a pretty big impact on what revenue we can expect. The outlook for 2028, for instance, is very robust from a revenue and profit perspective given our capacity plans.
Speaker #6: And that will have a pretty big impact on what revenue we can expect. But the outlook for 2028, for instance, is very robust from a revenue and profit perspective, given our capacity plans.
Speaker #7: Very helpful. Thanks. And then also appreciate the color on Micromax. Wanted to follow up by asking about your other recent acquisition, particularly with EFC sales falling sequentially in the second quarter.
Peter Osterland: Very helpful. Thanks. Also appreciate the color on Micromax. Wanted to follow up by asking about your other recent acquisition, particularly with EFC sales falling sequentially in Q2. How is the business performing? What drove the decline, and what do you expect in H2?
Peter Osterland: Very helpful. Thanks. Also appreciate the color on Micromax. Wanted to follow up by asking about your other recent acquisition, particularly with EFC sales falling sequentially in Q2. How is the business performing? What drove the decline, and what do you expect in H2?
Speaker #7: How has the business performing? What drove the decline? And what do you expect in the second half?
Speaker #1: Yeah, so the EFC business is a lumpier business than our other businesses, and it's not a business that was operated on a quarter-to-quarter basis.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. The EFC business is a lumpier business than our other businesses. It's not a business that was operated on a quarter-to-quarter basis, not that ours is, but with quarterly forecasts, in its prior iteration. I would say that our confidence in the full year is, or rather our conviction in their ability to hit that $30 million for the full year of 2026 is higher today than it was a quarter ago, given the really strong commercial pull, and customer engagements. Given it is a bit lumpier, it also has pretty good visibility into large new wins, and they are winning big pieces of business. The business is healthy. I wouldn't read anything into the seasonality, if you will, or the phasing. We're gonna have a very big H2 for EFC.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. The EFC business is a lumpier business than our other businesses. It's not a business that was operated on a quarter-to-quarter basis, not that ours is, but with quarterly forecasts, in its prior iteration. I would say that our confidence in the full year is, or rather our conviction in their ability to hit that $30 million for the full year of 2026 is higher today than it was a quarter ago, given the really strong commercial pull, and customer engagements.
Speaker #1: Not that ours is, but with quarterly forecasts in its prior iteration, I would say that our confidence in the full year—or rather, our conviction in their ability to hit that $30 million for the full year of 2026—is higher today than it was a quarter ago, given the really strong commercial pull and customer engagements.
Ben Gliklich: Given it is a bit lumpier, it also has pretty good visibility into large new wins, and they are winning big pieces of business. The business is healthy. I wouldn't read anything into the seasonality, if you will, or the phasing. We're gonna have a very big H2 for EFC.
Speaker #1: Given it is a bit lumpier, it also has pretty good visibility into large new wins. And they are winning big pieces of business.
Speaker #1: So the business is healthy. I wouldn't read anything into the seasonality if you will or the phasing. We're going to have a very big back half for EFC.
Speaker #1: The only thing I'd add to that is just given that seasonality and a little bit more lumpiness, the incrementals when the revenue does pick up are much higher than we would see it for the rest of our business.
Carey Dorman: The only thing I'd add to that is just given that seasonality and a little bit more lumpiness, the incrementals when the revenue does pick up are much higher than we would see for the rest of our business. We expect that to manifest in H2 as well.
Carey Dorman: The only thing I'd add to that is just given that seasonality and a little bit more lumpiness, the incrementals when the revenue does pick up are much higher than we would see for the rest of our business. We expect that to manifest in H2 as well.
Speaker #1: So, we expect that to manifest in the second half as well.
Peter Osterland: Great. Thanks a lot.
Peter Osterland: Great. Thanks a lot.
Speaker #7: lot.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of John Roberts with Mitsuo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Thank you. I appreciate it's hard to define "advanced," but would you give us kind of a wide range of what you would characterize as "advanced" for your core sales in electronics?
John Roberts: Thank you. I appreciate it's hard to define advanced, but would you give us kind of a wide range of what you would characterize as advanced for your core sales in electronics?
John Roberts: Thank you. I appreciate it's hard to define advanced, but would you give us kind of a wide range of what you would characterize as advanced for your core sales in electronics?
Speaker #1: So we've had
Ben Gliklich: We've had a lot of questions in the past, John, around advanced packaging, right? We've quantified advanced packaging as $several hundred million of revenue. Advanced is an even more generic term than advanced packaging. What I would say is that by and large, what we're selling is skewing towards higher-end applications. You see that in our growth relative to industry growth, whether that's printed circuit board volumes or semiconductor MSI, which would be the underlying market indicators for our end markets. We've been very substantially outpacing those markets for the past several years. I can't say that every product we have goes into leading-edge applications, but the business skews disproportionately towards advanced technologies. I would say it's a very negligible percentage of our revenue that is going to really legacy analog-type applications.
Speaker #6: There have been a lot of questions in the past, John, around advanced packaging, right? We've quantified advanced packaging as several hundred million dollars of revenue. "Advanced" is an even more generic term than advanced packaging.
Ben Gliklich: We've had a lot of questions in the past, John, around advanced packaging, right? We've quantified advanced packaging as $several hundred million of revenue. Advanced is an even more generic term than advanced packaging. What I would say is that by and large, what we're selling is skewing towards higher-end applications.
Speaker #6: And what I would say is that, by and large, what we're selling is skewing towards higher-end applications. You see that in our growth relative to industry growth—whether that's printed circuit board volumes or semiconductor MSI—which would be the underlying market indicators for our end markets.
Ben Gliklich: You see that in our growth relative to industry growth, whether that's printed circuit board volumes or semiconductor MSI, which would be the underlying market indicators for our end markets. We've been very substantially outpacing those markets for the past several years.
Speaker #6: And we’ve been very substantially outpacing those markets for the past several years. So we can’t say that every product we have goes into leading-edge applications.
Ben Gliklich: I can't say that every product we have goes into leading-edge applications, but the business skews disproportionately towards advanced technologies. I would say it's a very negligible percentage of our revenue that is going to really legacy analog-type applications.
Speaker #6: But the business skews disproportionately towards advanced technologies. I would say it's a very negligible percentage of our revenue that is going to really legacy analog-type applications.
Speaker #6: Okay. I was going to corollary here. Would you characterize consumer and mainstream electronics organic as down modestly?
John Roberts: Okay. A corollary here. Would you characterize consumer and mainstream electronics organic as down modestly?
John Roberts: Okay. A corollary here. Would you characterize consumer and mainstream electronics organic as down modestly?
Speaker #1: Yes.
Ben Gliklich: Yes.
Ben Gliklich: Yes.
Speaker #6: Okay.
John Roberts: Okay.
John Roberts: Okay.
Speaker #1: For the market or for our business, John? John, for the market or for our business? Because the market is down.
Ben Gliklich: For the market or for our business, John? John, for the market or for our business? Because the market is down.
Ben Gliklich: For the market or for our business, John? John, for the market or for our business? Because the market is down.
John Roberts: For your business is what I was asking.
John Roberts: For your business is what I was asking.
Speaker #6: For your business is what I was asking.
Speaker #1: Oh, no. No. If you look at Q1, I don't have the data for Q2, but in Q1, smartphone units were down overall, but our business was up mid-single digits.
Ben Gliklich: Oh, no. If you look at Q1, I don't have the data for Q2, but in Q1, smartphone units were down overall, but our business was up mid-single digits, and I would expect something similar to that because there's been a divergence, particularly in the smartphone market between local Chinese OEMs, and Western non-Chinese OEMs. Our business skews towards those non-Chinese OEMs where the market's been a bit more healthy.
Ben Gliklich: Oh, no. If you look at Q1, I don't have the data for Q2, but in Q1, smartphone units were down overall, but our business was up mid-single digits, and I would expect something similar to that because there's been a divergence, particularly in the smartphone market between local Chinese OEMs, and Western non-Chinese OEMs. Our business skews towards those non-Chinese OEMs where the market's been a bit more healthy.
Speaker #1: And I would expect something similar to that, because there's been a divergence, particularly in the smartphone market, between local Chinese OEMs and Western, non-Chinese OEMs.
Speaker #1: And our business skews towards those non-Chinese OEMs, where the market's been a bit more healthy.
Speaker #6: And then, overall, for the company, could I ask what are your largest raw materials that are non-metals? And actually, how much are they up, as you talk about inflation from the Middle East, etc.?
John Roberts: For overall for the company, could I ask, what are your largest raw materials that are non-metals? Actually, how much are they up as you talk about inflation from the Middle East, et cetera?
John Roberts: For overall for the company, could I ask, what are your largest raw materials that are non-metals? Actually, how much are they up as you talk about inflation from the Middle East, et cetera?
Speaker #1: Yeah. So John, there's a broad swath of raw materials that are ex-metal. If you think about the ones that have driven the pressure, it has been things that are derivatives of oil.
Carey Dorman: Yeah. John, there's a broad swath of raw materials that are ex-metals. If you think about the ones that have driven the pressure, it has been things that are derivatives of oil, so ethylene and propylene-based products. The biggest hit in Q2 were in the industrial businesses and the offshore businesses where those products are more prevalent. There's not any one, but it's sort of things in that oil value chain.
Carey Dorman: Yeah. John, there's a broad swath of raw materials that are ex-metals. If you think about the ones that have driven the pressure, it has been things that are derivatives of oil, so ethylene and propylene-based products. The biggest hit in Q2 were in the industrial businesses and the offshore businesses where those products are more prevalent. There's not any one, but it's sort of things in that oil value chain.
Speaker #1: So ethylene and propylene-based products. The biggest hit in the second quarter were in the industrial businesses and the offshore businesses where those products are more prevalent.
Speaker #1: But there's not any one, but it's sort of things in that oil value chain.
Speaker #6: Ex-metals, we have no major concentrations within any specific raw materials or molecules. Thanks, John.
Ben Gliklich: Ex-metals, we have no major concentrations within any specific raw materials or molecules.
Ben Gliklich: Ex-metals, we have no major concentrations within any specific raw materials or molecules.
John Roberts: Great. Thank you.
John Roberts: Great. Thank you.
Ben Gliklich: Thanks, John.
Ben Gliklich: Thanks, John.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of John 101 Tang with CJS Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of John Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of John Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions and a really nice quarter and outlook. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the semiconductor business in general, just the impact of the growth on mixed and margins.
John Tanwanteng: Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions and a really nice quarter outlook. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the semiconductor business in general, just the impact of the growth on mix and margins, and do you expect that to continue significantly outpacing the circuitry and assembly business growth as we move into the future quarters?
Jon Tanwanteng: Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions and a really nice quarter outlook. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the semiconductor business in general, just the impact of the growth on mix and margins, and do you expect that to continue significantly outpacing the circuitry and assembly business growth as we move into the future quarters?
Speaker #7: And we expect that to continue significantly outpacing the circuitry and assembly business growth as we move into future quarters.
Speaker #1: Yeah, it's a good question. This is Carrie. Given the metal components in the semiconductor businesses, the actual contribution margins are not too different from the average for the electronics business.
Carey Dorman: Yeah, it's a good question. This is Carey. Given the metal components in the semiconductor businesses, the actual contribution margins there are not too different from the average for the electronics business. From a growth perspective, certainly semi has been outperforming volume-wise, and we would expect that to continue to be our highest volume growth business through the rest of this cycle. In terms of a margin and margin mix, I don't think we're seeing a meaningful difference between that and the rest of the electronics business. Pete, you can add into that.
Carey Dorman: Yeah, it's a good question. This is Carey. Given the metal components in the semiconductor businesses, the actual contribution margins there are not too different from the average for the electronics business.
Speaker #1: So what we from a growth outperforming volume-wise and we would expect that to continue to be our highest volume growth business through the rest of this cycle.
Carey Dorman: From a growth perspective, certainly semi has been outperforming volume-wise, and we would expect that to continue to be our highest volume growth business through the rest of this cycle. In terms of a margin and margin mix, I don't think we're seeing a meaningful difference between that and the rest of the electronics business. Pete, you can add into that.
Speaker #1: But in terms of margin and margin mix, I don't think we're seeing a meaningful difference in that in the rest of the electronics business.
Speaker #1: You'd add anything to that?
Speaker #7: Got it. That's helpful. And then, just from a raw materials and market share standpoint, have you been seeing excessive share gain?
John Tanwanteng: Got it. That's helpful. Then just from a raw materials and market share standpoint, have you been seeing excessive share gain, I guess, over what you would normally see, just given the impact on your competitors?
Jon Tanwanteng: Got it. That's helpful. Then just from a raw materials and market share standpoint, have you been seeing excessive share gain, I guess, over what you would normally see, just given the impact on your competitors?
Speaker #7: I guess over what you would normally see, just given the impact on your competitors. Or is that something that's been more normal course? And if you are seeing share gain, do you expect that to be sticky?
John Tanwanteng: Is that something that's been more normal course? If you are seeing share gains, do you expect that to be sticky?
Jon Tanwanteng: Is that something that's been more normal course? If you are seeing share gains, do you expect that to be sticky?
Speaker #6: Yeah, it's a great question. So, in general, the broader electronics industry is short certain inputs, right? And capacity constrained as well. Those inputs tend not to be things in our value chain, right?
Ben Gliklich: Yeah, it's a great question. In general, the broader electronics industry is short certain inputs, right? Capacity constrained as well. Those inputs tend not to be things in our value chain, right? We are not capacity constrained. I would say that by and large, our competition isn't capacity constrained, though there are a few areas. We talk about Cuprion, for example. What we're doing in TIMs and other engineered materials where I would say we are capacity constrained, and we're adding capacity as fast as we can to meet the surge in demand. I wouldn't say that there is a shortage of what we make as a general term. We are taking share in certain technologies where we've been first to market, established positions of incumbency, or innovated ways to increase our customers' throughput because they're capacity constrained, right?
Ben Gliklich: Yeah, it's a great question. In general, the broader electronics industry is short certain inputs, right? Capacity constrained as well. Those inputs tend not to be things in our value chain, right? We are not capacity constrained. I would say that by and large, our competition isn't capacity constrained, though there are a few areas. We talk about Cuprion, for example.
Speaker #6: So we are not capacity constrained. I would say that, by and large, our competition isn't capacity constrained either, though there are a few areas. We talk about Cuprion, for example, what we're doing in STIMs.
Ben Gliklich: What we're doing in TIMs and other engineered materials where I would say we are capacity constrained, and we're adding capacity as fast as we can to meet the surge in demand. I wouldn't say that there is a shortage of what we make as a general term.
Speaker #6: And other engineered materials, where I would say we are capacity constrained, we're adding capacity as fast as we can to meet the surge in demand.
Speaker #6: So I wouldn't say that there is a shortage of what we make as a general term. We are taking share in certain technologies where we've been first to market, established positions of incumbency, or innovated ways to increase our customers' throughput because they're capacity constrained, right?
Ben Gliklich: We are taking share in certain technologies where we've been first to market, established positions of incumbency, or innovated ways to increase our customers' throughput because they're capacity constrained, right?
Speaker #6: And so, if we can allow for them to increase their production, there's a lot of value they can capture. And that justifies some switching, which is very uncommon in our industry.
Ben Gliklich: If we can allow for them to increase their production, there's a lot of value they can capture, and that justifies some switching, which is very uncommon in our industry. We have been taking share in several areas across our businesses on the basis of our technology. That has led to some level of outperformance, and we would envision that to be sticky. The switching costs are really high. The other area where we've seen some share opportunities has been given the spike in metal prices. Some of our local competitors haven't been capitalized to float metal and handle the payment terms in the industry. We've seen customers turning to us, because competitors aren't able to continue to operate. In those situations, we're making sure the business isn't transactional. Because we're not interested in that transactional type business.
Ben Gliklich: If we can allow for them to increase their production, there's a lot of value they can capture, and that justifies some switching, which is very uncommon in our industry. We have been taking share in several areas across our businesses on the basis of our technology. That has led to some level of outperformance, and we would envision that to be sticky. The switching costs are really high.
Speaker #6: And so, we have been taking share in several areas across our businesses on the basis of our technology, and that has led to some level of outperformance.
Speaker #6: And we would envision that to be sticky, as switching costs are really high. The other area where we've seen some share opportunities has been given the spike in metal prices.
Ben Gliklich: The other area where we've seen some share opportunities has been given the spike in metal prices. Some of our local competitors haven't been capitalized to float metal and handle the payment terms in the industry. We've seen customers turning to us, because competitors aren't able to continue to operate. In those situations, we're making sure the business isn't transactional. Because we're not interested in that transactional type business.
Speaker #6: Some of our local competitors haven't had the haven't been capitalized to float metal and handle the payment terms in the industry. And so we've seen customers turning to us because competitors aren't able to continue to operate.
Speaker #6: In those situations, we're making sure the business isn't transactional. Because we're not interested in that transactional-type business. We're interested in longer-term sticky business and making sure that the fact that we are a viable long-term supplier is recognized in the way we do business with our customers and buy our customers.
Ben Gliklich: We're interested in longer-term sticky business and making sure that the fact that we are a viable long-term supplier is recognized in the way we do business with our customers and by our customers. We have seen some share gains from that as well.
Ben Gliklich: We're interested in longer-term sticky business and making sure that the fact that we are a viable long-term supplier is recognized in the way we do business with our customers and by our customers. We have seen some share gains from that as well.
Speaker #6: And so, we have seen some share gains from that as well.
Speaker #7: Great, thank you for that color.
John Tanwanteng: Great. Thank you for that color.
Jon Tanwanteng: Great. Thank you for that color.
Speaker #1: Thanks, John.
Ben Gliklich: Thanks, John.
Ben Gliklich: Thanks, John.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Frank Mitch with Fermium Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of Frank Mitsch with Fermium Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Frank Mitsch with Fermium Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Thank you so much, and good morning. Nice second quarter results. You commented that the organic outlook improved through the second quarter. I was wondering if you might be able to provide any metrics around that in terms of the underlying industry, or what you're seeing specifically to make that comment—that the organic outlook improved throughout the second quarter.
Frank Mitsch: Thank you so much. Good morning, and nice Q2 results. You commented that the organic outlook improved through the Q2. I was wondering if you might be able to provide any metrics around that in terms of the underlying industry or what you are seeing specifically to make that comment that the organic outlook improved throughout the Q2, and then, of course, the durability of that. Back in mid-May when you had your Investor Day, you offered us a midterm 7% organic growth outlook. Have things materially changed in that regard? Any color there would be very helpful.
Frank Mitsch: Thank you so much. Good morning, and nice Q2 results. You commented that the organic outlook improved through the Q2. I was wondering if you might be able to provide any metrics around that in terms of the underlying industry or what you are seeing specifically to make that comment that the organic outlook improved throughout the Q2, and then, of course, the durability of that.
Speaker #7: And then, of course, the durability of that. Back in mid-May when you had your investor day, you offered us a midterm 7% organic growth outlook.
Frank Mitsch: Back in mid-May when you had your Investor Day, you offered us a midterm 7% organic growth outlook. Have things materially changed in that regard? Any color there would be very helpful.
Speaker #7: Have things materially changed in that regard? Any color there would be very helpful.
Speaker #6: Yeah, absolutely. So thanks for the question, Frank. Look, the organic outlook improved—meaning our outlook for the year and organic growth this year improved—relative to the jumping-off point at the end of the first quarter.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Absolutely. Thanks for the question, Frank. With the organic outlook improved, meaning our outlook for the year and organic growth this year improved relative to the jumping-off point at the end of the Q1. The reason for that is we continued to see capacity expansions in the supply chain and pull from our customers, right? Their levels of activity continue to increase. We said something similar about a year ago where we said there was concern, was there pull forward? We said, this doesn't feel like inventory in the channel. Our customers are adding capacity to meet what they expect to be demand, and that capacity addition continues across the supply chain. In that context, our customers are making long-term investment decisions, and we are partnering with them to supply them with critical materials for their production processes.
Ben Gliklich: Yeah. Absolutely. Thanks for the question, Frank. With the organic outlook improved, meaning our outlook for the year and organic growth this year improved relative to the jumping-off point at the end of the Q1. The reason for that is we continued to see capacity expansions in the supply chain and pull from our customers, right?
Speaker #6: And the reason for that is we continue to see capacity expansions in the supply chain and pull from our customers, right? Their levels of activity continue to increase.
Ben Gliklich: Their levels of activity continue to increase. We said something similar about a year ago where we said there was concern, was there pull forward? We said, this doesn't feel like inventory in the channel.
Speaker #6: We said something similar about a year ago, where we said there was concern—was there pull-forward? And we said, this doesn't feel like inventory in the channel.
Speaker #6: Our customers are adding capacity to meet what they expect to be demand. And that capacity addition continues across the supply chain. And so, in that context, our customers are making long-term investment decisions, and we're partnering with them to supply them with critical materials for their production processes.
Ben Gliklich: Our customers are adding capacity to meet what they expect to be demand, and that capacity addition continues across the supply chain. In that context, our customers are making long-term investment decisions, and we are partnering with them to supply them with critical materials for their production processes.
Speaker #6: And so, we don't see that abating in the near term. The medium-term targets—or medium-term growth rates—we articulated at our investor day are exactly that.
Ben Gliklich: We don't see that abating in the near term. The medium-term targets that, or medium-term growth rates we articulated at our Investor Day are exactly that. They are medium-term. I wouldn't say they change over a 90-day period. I would say that underlying industry health is very strong right now, and the outlook is as well.
Ben Gliklich: We don't see that abating in the near term. The medium-term targets that, or medium-term growth rates we articulated at our Investor Day are exactly that. They are medium-term. I wouldn't say they change over a 90-day period. I would say that underlying industry health is very strong right now, and the outlook is as well.
Speaker #6: They're medium-term, and I wouldn't say they change over a 90-day period. I would say that underlying industry health is very strong right now, and the outlook is as well.
Speaker #7: Terrific. Very helpful. And Carey, you called out higher incentive comp in the second quarter—a $10 million headwind. How do you think about incentive comp trending for the balance of the year?
Frank Mitsch: Terrific. Very helpful. Carey, you called out higher incentive comp in the Q2, a $10 million headwind. How do you think about incentive comp trending for the balance of the year?
Frank Mitsch: Terrific. Very helpful. Carey, you called out higher incentive comp in the Q2, a $10 million headwind. How do you think about incentive comp trending for the balance of the year?
Speaker #1: Yeah. So it's a good question. Thank you. So the incentive comp accruals are based on our expectations for our full-year plan. And we update those on the quarterly basis and true up the accruals.
Carey Dorman: Yeah. It's a good question. Thank you. The incentive comp accruals are based on our expectations for our full-year plan. We update those on a quarterly basis and true up the accruals. As of now, what we're seeing in Q2 is sort of the level of expense we would expect to see in Q3 and Q4, unless our plan changes. As we've indicated here in our guide that we update provided is consistent with where those accruals are. I would expect a similar level throughout the rest of the year.
Carey Dorman: Yeah. It's a good question. Thank you. The incentive comp accruals are based on our expectations for our full-year plan. We update those on a quarterly basis and true up the accruals.
Speaker #1: So as of now, what we're seeing in Q2 is sort of the level of expense that we would expect to see in Q3 and Q4 unless our plan changes.
Carey Dorman: As of now, what we're seeing in Q2 is sort of the level of expense we would expect to see in Q3 and Q4, unless our plan changes. As we've indicated here in our guide that we update provided is consistent with where those accruals are. I would expect a similar level throughout the rest of the year.
Speaker #1: And as we've indicated here, our guidance that we updated is consistent with where those accruals are. So I would expect a similar level throughout the rest of the year.
Speaker #7: Terrific. Very helpful. Thank you.
Frank Mitsch: Terrific. Very helpful. Thank you.
Frank Mitsch: Terrific. Very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Aaron Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lynn: Your next question comes from the line of Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Arun Viswanathan: Sorry about that. I was on mute. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a very strong quarter here. I guess I just wanted to understand that the strength in the semiconductor technology side. Maybe you could just elaborate a little bit on what drove that and how you see that kind of evolving as you potentially go through the next few quarters. Do you think you need to make any capacity additions there to meet growing demand? Thanks again.
Arun Viswanathan: Sorry about that. I was on mute. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a very strong quarter here. I guess I just wanted to understand that the strength in the semiconductor technology side. Maybe you could just elaborate a little bit on what drove that and how you see that kind of evolving as you potentially go through the next few quarters. Do you think you need to make any capacity additions there to meet growing demand? Thanks again.
Speaker #7: Sorry about that. I was on mute. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a very strong quarter here. So I guess I just wanted to understand that the strength in the semiconductor side maybe you can just elaborate a little bit on what drove that and how you see that kind of evolving as you potentially go through the next few quarters?
Speaker #7: Do you think that you need to make any capacity additions there to meet growing demand? Thanks again.
Speaker #6: Sure thing. So the semi-business was very strong in the second quarter. As we said earlier, about two-thirds of that is volume and a third of that is metal price inflation. We adjust for most of our metals that we pass through, but in the semi-business—and also in the industrial business, for instance—we don't make those adjustments.
Ben Gliklich: Sure thing. The semi business was very strong in Q2. As we said earlier, about two-thirds of that is volume and a third of that is metal price inflation. We adjust for most of our metals that we pass through. In the semi business and also in the industrial business, for instance, we don't make those adjustments. The volumetric strength is something we expect to continue, and the metal prices we can't predict. We are not capacity constrained by and large in the semi business. We wouldn't have to make substantial investment to support ongoing growth there.
Ben Gliklich: Sure thing. The semi business was very strong in Q2. As we said earlier, about two-thirds of that is volume and a third of that is metal price inflation. We adjust for most of our metals that we pass through. In the semi business and also in the industrial business, for instance, we don't make those adjustments.
Speaker #6: So, the volume metric strength is something we expect to continue, and the metal prices we can't predict. We are not capacity constrained, by and large, in the semi business.
Ben Gliklich: The volumetric strength is something we expect to continue, and the metal prices we can't predict. We are not capacity constrained by and large in the semi business. We wouldn't have to make substantial investment to support ongoing growth there.
Speaker #6: And so, we wouldn't have to make a substantial investment to support ongoing growth there.
Speaker #7: Thanks for that. And if I could just ask a follow-up: Do you comment on your outlook as far as utilization rates at some of your customers?
Arun Viswanathan: Thanks for that. If I could just ask a follow-up. Do you comment on your outlook as far as utilization rates at some of your customers? Do you see those continuing to ramp up, and where are we kind of in that cycle from your perspective, if you have any views there? Thanks.
Arun Viswanathan: Thanks for that. If I could just ask a follow-up. Do you comment on your outlook as far as utilization rates at some of your customers? Do you see those continuing to ramp up, and where are we kind of in that cycle from your perspective, if you have any views there? Thanks.
Speaker #7: Do you see those continuing to ramp up? And where are we, kind of, in that cycle? From your perspective, if you have any views there, thanks.
Speaker #6: Yeah. It's a good question, right? We've got a very broad set of customers from semi-fabs to printed circuit board fabs to assemblers and then, of course, on the specialty side of the business, it's a whole different set of customers.
Ben Gliklich: It's a good question, right? We've got a very broad set of customers, from semi fabs to printed circuit board fabs to assemblers, then of course, on the specialty side of the business, it's a whole different set of customers. What I would say is that across all of our electronics customers, we're seeing capacity additions, right? We're seeing the device assemblers and assembly shops building out more capacity. We're seeing printed circuit boards building out capacity both in China and outside of China. We're seeing huge investments in capacity in Taiwan and Korea, in those markets. Then, of course, semi fabs are expanding capacity at the leading edge. Capacity utilization varies by customer type and by what they're building, right? Leading edge semi versus legacy nodes.
Ben Gliklich: It's a good question, right? We've got a very broad set of customers, from semi fabs to printed circuit board fabs to assemblers, then of course, on the specialty side of the business, it's a whole different set of customers. What I would say is that across all of our electronics customers, we're seeing capacity additions, right? We're seeing the device assemblers and assembly shops building out more capacity.
Speaker #6: What I would say is that across all of our electronics customers, we're seeing capacity additions, right? We're seeing the device assemblers and assembly shops building out more capacity.
Speaker #6: We're seeing printed circuit boards building out capacity both in China and outside of China. We're seeing huge investments in capacity in Taiwan and Korea.
Ben Gliklich: We're seeing printed circuit boards building out capacity both in China and outside of China. We're seeing huge investments in capacity in Taiwan and Korea, in those markets. Then, of course, semi fabs are expanding capacity at the leading edge. Capacity utilization varies by customer type and by what they're building, right? Leading edge semi versus legacy nodes.
Speaker #6: In those markets. And then, of course, semi-fabs are expanding capacity at the leading edge. Capacity utilization varies by customer type and by what they're building, right?
Speaker #6: So, leading-edge semi versus legacy nodes—similarly with printed circuit board fabs—there are a lot of different types of printed circuit board technologies.
Ben Gliklich: Similarly, with printed circuit board fabs, there are a lot of different types of printed circuit board technologies, those lines aren't fungible per se. Certainly at the more advanced end, we're seeing very high utilization rates, which is supporting substantial capacity additions at all of our major customers in the leading edge circuit board fabs, semi foundries, and device assemblers, EMS shops.
Ben Gliklich: Similarly, with printed circuit board fabs, there are a lot of different types of printed circuit board technologies, those lines aren't fungible per se. Certainly at the more advanced end, we're seeing very high utilization rates, which is supporting substantial capacity additions at all of our major customers in the leading edge circuit board fabs, semi foundries, and device assemblers, EMS shops.
Speaker #6: And those lines aren’t fungible per se. Certainly, at the more advanced end, we’re seeing very high utilization rates, which is supporting substantial capacity additions at all of our major customers in the leading-edge circuit board fabs, semi foundries, and device assemblies.
Speaker #6: Device assemblers, EMS ships.
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Arun Viswanathan: Thanks.
Arun Viswanathan: Thanks.
Speaker #3: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to CEO Ben Gliklich for closing remarks.
Lynn: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to CEO Ben Gliklich for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to CEO Ben Gliklich for closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Great. Thank you, Lynn. And thanks to everybody for joining. We'll see you soon. Have a good day.
Ben Gliklich: Great. Thank you, Lynn, thanks to everybody for joining. We'll see you guys soon. Have a good day.
Ben Gliklich: Great. Thank you, Lynn, thanks to everybody for joining. We'll see you guys soon. Have a good day.
Lynn: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
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