Q1 2027 Outdoor Holding Co Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Me.
Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Outdoor Holding Company's first quarter earnings call for fiscal year 2027. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode.
Operator: Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Outdoor Holding Company's first quarter earnings call for fiscal year 2027. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again.
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Operator: Participants on this call are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live over the internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Michael Bacal of Darrow Associates, the company's investor relations firm. Please go ahead, sir.
Operator: Participants on this call are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live over the internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Michael Bacal of Darrow Associates, the company's investor relations firm. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #2: I would now like to turn the call over to Michael Bacal of Darrow Associates, the company's investor relations firm. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #3: Good morning, and thank you for participating in today's conference call. Joining me from Outdoor Holding Company's leadership team are Steve Urvan, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Paul Kasowski, Chief Financial Officer; and Jordan Christensen, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary.
Michael Bacal: Good morning, and thank you for participating in today's conference call. Joining me from Outdoor Holding Company's leadership team are Steven Urvan, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Paul Kasowski, Chief Financial Officer, and Jordan Christensen, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary. During this call, management will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities laws, including statements that address Outdoor Holding Company's expectations, strategy, future performance, operational results, margins, cost structure, legal matters, capital allocation and other matters. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Michael Bacal: Good morning, and thank you for participating in today's conference call. Joining me from Outdoor Holding Company's leadership team are Steven Urvan, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Paul Kasowski, Chief Financial Officer, and Jordan Christensen, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary. During this call, management will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities laws, including statements that address Outdoor Holding Company's expectations, strategy, future performance, operational results, margins, cost structure, legal matters, capital allocation and other matters. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Speaker #3: During this call, management will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities Laws, including statements that address outdoor holding companies' expectations, strategy, future performance, operational results, margins, cost structure, legal matters, capital allocation, and other matters.
Speaker #3: Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Speaker #3: For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the Risk Factors and other cautionary statements described in Outdoor Holding Company's most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly report on Form 10-Q, and the company's earnings press release issued in advance of this call.
Michael Bacal: For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the risk factors and other cautionary statements described in Outdoor Holding Company's most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly report on Form 10-Q, and the company's earnings press release issued in advance of this call. Today's call includes non-GAAP financial measures that the company believes can be useful in evaluating its performance, including adjusted EBITDA. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release, and 10-Q, and previously released financial reporting. The information discussed on this call is current as of today, 10 August 2026.
Michael Bacal: For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the risk factors and other cautionary statements described in Outdoor Holding Company's most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly report on Form 10-Q, and the company's earnings press release issued in advance of this call. Today's call includes non-GAAP financial measures that the company believes can be useful in evaluating its performance, including adjusted EBITDA. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release, and 10-Q, and previously released financial reporting. The information discussed on this call is current as of today, 10 August 2026.
Speaker #3: Today's conference call includes non-GAAP financial measures that the company believes can be useful in evaluating its performance. Including adjusted EBITDA. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP.
Speaker #3: For reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures, to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release and 10-Q and previously released financial reporting.
Speaker #3: The information discussed on this call is current as of today, August 10, 2026. Except as required by law, Outdoor Holding Company disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call.
Michael Bacal: Except as required by law, Outdoor Holding Company disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Outdoor Holding Company's Chairman and CEO, Steven Urvan.
Michael Bacal: Except as required by law, Outdoor Holding Company disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Outdoor Holding Company's Chairman and CEO, Steven Urvan.
Speaker #3: It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Outdoor Holding Company's chairman and CEO, Steve Irvin.
Speaker #4: Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us. Over the past year, we substantially stabilized and simplified the company and established a much leaner and more focused operating foundation.
Steven Urvan: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Over the past year, we substantially stabilized and simplified the company and established a much leaner and more focused operating foundation. The stabilization phase is substantially behind us, but operational improvement is continuous. Our operating philosophy is simple: continuous improvement and disciplined growth. Continuous improvement means operating the business better every quarter, simplifying processes, improving efficiency, applying technology where it creates measurable value, and allocating capital to its highest and best use. Disciplined growth means investing in initiatives that strengthen the platform, expand monetization through value-added services, and create durable long-term shareholder value, not simply by charging customers more, but by making the platform more valuable and monetizing more of each transaction. This quarter demonstrates the earnings power of that philosophy. Four numbers capture the quarter.
Steven Urvan: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Over the past year, we substantially stabilized and simplified the company and established a much leaner and more focused operating foundation. The stabilization phase is substantially behind us, but operational improvement is continuous. Our operating philosophy is simple: continuous improvement and disciplined growth. Continuous improvement means operating the business better every quarter, simplifying processes, improving efficiency, applying technology where it creates measurable value, and allocating capital to its highest and best use. Disciplined growth means investing in initiatives that strengthen the platform, expand monetization through value-added services, and create durable long-term shareholder value, not simply by charging customers more, but by making the platform more valuable and monetizing more of each transaction. This quarter demonstrates the earnings power of that philosophy. Four numbers capture the quarter.
Speaker #4: The stabilization phase is substantially behind us, but operational improvement is continuous. Our operating philosophy is simple: continuous improvement and disciplined growth. Continuous improvement means operating the business better every quarter, simplifying processes, improving efficiency, applying technology where it creates measurable value, and allocating capital to its highest invest use.
Speaker #4: Disciplined growth means investing in initiatives that strengthen the platform, expand monetization through value-added services, and create durable, long-term shareholder value, not simply by charging customers more but by making the platform more valuable and monetizing more of each transaction.
Speaker #4: This quarter demonstrates the earnings power of that philosophy. Four numbers capture the quarter: net revenues increased 22.1%. To 14.5 million. Marking our fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year revenue growth.
Steven Urvan: Net revenues increased 22.1% to $14.5 million, marking our fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year revenue growth. Net income from continuing operations improved by $9.4 million, from a $5.9 million loss to income of $3.6 million. Adjusted EBITDA increased 152% to $7.9 million, and operating cash flow improved by $11.1 million from a deficit of $6.7 million last year to positive $4.4 million this year. Just as importantly, the improvement was broad-based. Traffic conversion, average order value, and firearm unit sales all increased while our leaner operating structure converted that growth into meaningful earnings and cash flow. Paul will walk through the financial bridge, so I will focus on the three principal operating drivers. First, marketplace productivity. Conversion improved and average item values rose with gains across both new and used products. Firearm units sold increased 11.6% against a 5.3% increase in adjusted NICS.
Steven Urvan: Net revenues increased 22.1% to $14.5 million, marking our fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year revenue growth. Net income from continuing operations improved by $9.4 million, from a $5.9 million loss to income of $3.6 million. Adjusted EBITDA increased 152% to $7.9 million, and operating cash flow improved by $11.1 million from a deficit of $6.7 million last year to positive $4.4 million this year. Just as importantly, the improvement was broad-based. Traffic conversion, average order value, and firearm unit sales all increased while our leaner operating structure converted that growth into meaningful earnings and cash flow. Paul will walk through the financial bridge, so I will focus on the three principal operating drivers. First, marketplace productivity. Conversion improved and average item values rose with gains across both new and used products. Firearm units sold increased 11.6% against a 5.3% increase in adjusted NICS.
Speaker #4: Net income from continuing operations improved by $9.4 million, from a $5.9 million loss to income of $3.6 million. Adjusted EBITDA increased 152% to $7.9 million.
Speaker #4: And operating cash flow improved by 11.1 million, from a deficit of 6.7 million last year to positive 4.4 million this year. Just as importantly, the improvement was broad-based.
Speaker #4: Traffic, conversion, average order value, and firearm unit sales all increased, while our leaner operating structure converted that growth into meaningful earnings and cash flow.
Speaker #4: Paul will walk through the financial bridge, so I will focus on the three principal operating drivers. First, marketplace productivity—conversion improved and average item values rose, with gains across both new and used products.
Speaker #4: Firearm units sold increased 11.6% against a 5.3% increase in adjusted mix. Our FFL required units represented approximately 6.4% of adjusted mix, an increase of 41 basis points year-over-year.
Steven Urvan: Our FFL-required units represented approximately 6.4% of adjusted NICS, an increase of 41 basis points year-over-year. That performance indicates that GunBroker.com grew faster than the broader market during the quarter. Second, FFL transfer revenue. The FFL integration launched at the beginning of the fiscal year created a new revenue stream, expanded our dealer network, centralized verification and compliance, and streamlined the transfer process. It contributed meaningfully to both revenue and take rate in its first quarter of operation. Paul will discuss the financial contribution and the initial implementation costs in more detail. Third, Virginia provided a meaningful but temporary tailwind. Buying in Virginia, driven by proposed legislation banning high-capacity firearms, contributed to a meaningful portion of our year-over-year GMV increase. We are not assuming that demand pulled forward into the first quarter will repeat in the second quarter.
Steven Urvan: Our FFL-required units represented approximately 6.4% of adjusted NICS, an increase of 41 basis points year-over-year. That performance indicates that GunBroker.com grew faster than the broader market during the quarter. Second, FFL transfer revenue. The FFL integration launched at the beginning of the fiscal year created a new revenue stream, expanded our dealer network, centralized verification and compliance, and streamlined the transfer process. It contributed meaningfully to both revenue and take rate in its first quarter of operation. Paul will discuss the financial contribution and the initial implementation costs in more detail. Third, Virginia provided a meaningful but temporary tailwind. Buying in Virginia, driven by proposed legislation banning high-capacity firearms, contributed to a meaningful portion of our year-over-year GMV increase. We are not assuming that demand pulled forward into the first quarter will repeat in the second quarter.
Speaker #4: That performance indicates that GunBroker grew faster than the broader market during the quarter. Second, FFL transfer revenue. The FFL integration launched at the beginning of the fiscal year created a new revenue stream, expanded our dealer network, centralized verification and compliance, and streamlined the transfer process.
Speaker #4: It contributed meaningfully to both revenue and take rate in its first quarter of operation. Paul will discuss the financial contribution in the initial implementation costs in more detail.
Speaker #4: Third, Virginia provided a meaningful but temporary tailwind. Buying in Virginia driven by proposed legislation banning high-capacity firearms contributed to a meaningful portion of our year-over-year GMV increase.
Speaker #4: We are not assuming that demand pulled forward into the first quarter will repeat in the second quarter. Enforcement of the new law is currently subject to preliminary injunctions, and the litigation continues.
Steven Urvan: Enforcement of the new law is currently subject to preliminary injunctions, and the litigation continues. However, excluding Virginia, GMV still increased approximately $23 million year-over-year, supported by improvements in traffic, conversion, and average order value. That broader marketplace performance is the more important indicator of the underlying health of the business, despite a slowdown in June velocity. One category worth highlighting before I turn the call over to Paul is silencers and suppressed firearms, where GMV increased approximately 71% year-over-year. Effective 1 January, the federal making and transfer taxes were reduced to zero for most NFA items, including silencers, while the application and registration requirements remained in place. We believe the lower transaction cost should support demand in this category, although quarterly growth may be uneven, and this remains smaller than firearms overall. With that, let me turn it over to Paul.
Steven Urvan: Enforcement of the new law is currently subject to preliminary injunctions, and the litigation continues. However, excluding Virginia, GMV still increased approximately $23 million year-over-year, supported by improvements in traffic, conversion, and average order value. That broader marketplace performance is the more important indicator of the underlying health of the business, despite a slowdown in June velocity. One category worth highlighting before I turn the call over to Paul is silencers and suppressed firearms, where GMV increased approximately 71% year-over-year. Effective 1 January, the federal making and transfer taxes were reduced to zero for most NFA items, including silencers, while the application and registration requirements remained in place. We believe the lower transaction cost should support demand in this category, although quarterly growth may be uneven, and this remains smaller than firearms overall. With that, let me turn it over to Paul.
Speaker #4: However, excluding Virginia, GMV still increased approximately 23 million dollars year-over-year, supported by improvements in traffic, conversion, and average order value. That broader marketplace performance is the more important indicator of the underlying health of the business, despite a slowdown in June velocity.
Speaker #4: One category worth highlighting before I turn the call over to Paul is silencers and suppressed firearms, where GMV increased approximately 71% year-over-year. Effective January 1, the federal making and transfer taxes were reduced to zero for most NFA items, including silencers.
Speaker #4: While the application and registration requirements remained in place, we believe the lower transaction cost should support demand in this category, although quarterly growth may be uneven in this remains smaller than firearms overall.
Speaker #4: With that, let me turn it over to Paul.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Steve. Good morning, everyone. I will walk through the revenue, gross profit, operating expense, and cash flow bridges for the quarter. The results reflect both elements of our operating philosophy: continuous improvement in the way we run the business, and disciplined growth through the marketplace expansion and new service offerings.
Paul Kasowski: Thanks, Steve. Good morning, everyone. I will walk through the revenue, gross profit, operating expense, and cash flow bridges for the quarter. The results reflect both elements of our operating philosophy, continuous improvement in the way we run the business, and disciplined growth through the marketplace expansion and new service offerings. Starting with revenue, net revenues were $14.5 million, up $2.6 million or 22.1% from $11.9 million in last year's first quarter. That growth primarily came from two areas. About $1.7 million was driven by increased volume across the marketplace, reflected in final value fees and marketplace service fees. An additional $0.9 million came from FFL transfer fees, which began in April and demonstrated our approach to disciplined growth. As a result, revenue outpaced GMV growth in the quarter. The underlying marketplace metrics were also strong. GMV increased 18.1% to $223.7 million.
Paul Kasowski: Thanks, Steve. Good morning, everyone. I will walk through the revenue, gross profit, operating expense, and cash flow bridges for the quarter. The results reflect both elements of our operating philosophy, continuous improvement in the way we run the business, and disciplined growth through the marketplace expansion and new service offerings. Starting with revenue, net revenues were $14.5 million, up $2.6 million or 22.1% from $11.9 million in last year's first quarter. That growth primarily came from two areas. About $1.7 million was driven by increased volume across the marketplace, reflected in final value fees and marketplace service fees. An additional $0.9 million came from FFL transfer fees, which began in April and demonstrated our approach to disciplined growth. As a result, revenue outpaced GMV growth in the quarter. The underlying marketplace metrics were also strong. GMV increased 18.1% to $223.7 million.
Speaker #5: Starting with revenue, net revenues were 14.5 million up 2.6 million or 22.1% from 11.9 million in last year's first quarter. That growth primarily came from two areas: about 1.7 million dollars was driven by increased volume across the marketplace reflected in final value fees and marketplace service fees.
Speaker #5: An additional $0.9 million came from FFL transfer fees, which began in April and demonstrated our approach to disciplined growth. As a result, revenue outpaced GMV growth in the quarter.
Speaker #5: The underlying marketplace metrics were also strong. GMV increased 18.1% to 223.7 million dollars. Average order value rose 33 dollars or 7.5% to 477 dollars, conversion improved 11 basis points to 1.76%, and first-party engaged sessions grew 2.9%.
Paul Kasowski: Average order value rose $33, or 7.5%, to $477. Conversion improved 11 basis points to 1.76%, and first-party engaged sessions grew 2.9%. Our take rate was 6.47%, up from 6.26% a year ago, with FFL fees contributing 39 basis points. Our legacy take rate was 6.08%, down modestly from the prior year. The decrease primarily reflected a larger share of volume from our top sellers who qualify for discounted fee rates, and an increased average item value, which carry a lower inherent take rate. Growth concentrated amongst our most active sellers and higher value items is a healthy sign. More importantly, the FFL contribution demonstrates our ability to monetize useful services without increasing the base final value fee. Our gross profit was $12.2 million for the quarter, up 18.5%. Gross margin was 84.5% compared to 87.2% last year, a drop of about 260 basis points.
Paul Kasowski: Average order value rose $33, or 7.5%, to $477. Conversion improved 11 basis points to 1.76%, and first-party engaged sessions grew 2.9%. Our take rate was 6.47%, up from 6.26% a year ago, with FFL fees contributing 39 basis points. Our legacy take rate was 6.08%, down modestly from the prior year. The decrease primarily reflected a larger share of volume from our top sellers who qualify for discounted fee rates, and an increased average item value, which carry a lower inherent take rate. Growth concentrated amongst our most active sellers and higher value items is a healthy sign. More importantly, the FFL contribution demonstrates our ability to monetize useful services without increasing the base final value fee. Our gross profit was $12.2 million for the quarter, up 18.5%. Gross margin was 84.5% compared to 87.2% last year, a drop of about 260 basis points.
Speaker #5: Our take rate was 6.47% up from 6.26% a year ago with FFL fees contributing 39 basis points. Our legacy take rate was 6.08%, down modestly from the prior year.
Speaker #5: The decrease primarily reflected a larger share of volume from our top sellers who qualified for discounted fee rates and an increased average item value, which carried a lower inherent take rate.
Speaker #5: Growth concentrated amongst our most active sellers and high-value items is a healthy sign. More importantly, the FFL contribution demonstrates our ability to monetize useful services without increasing the base final value fee.
Speaker #5: Our gross profit was $12.2 million for the quarter, up 18.5%. Gross margin was 84.5% compared to 87.2% last year, a drop of about 260 basis points.
Speaker #5: The decline primarily reflected the launch of FFL transfer services, including startup and implementation costs incurred early in the quarter that are not expected to recur.
Paul Kasowski: The decline primarily reflected launch of FFL transfer services, including startup and implementation costs incurred early in the quarter that are not expected to recur. Those implementation activities were substantially completed in May, and we expect the margin contribution from FFL transfer services to improve as the service scales, with total gross margin stabilizing above 85%. As noted previously, new services may carry lower margin than the legacy marketplace while still providing highly attractive incremental revenue and profit. Operating expenses are where the continuous improvement side of the quarter is most visible. Total operating expenses were $8.9 million, down $7.4 million or about 45% from $16.3 million a year ago. Legal and professional fees fell $3.7 million, mostly because the Delaware litigation, SEC investigation, audit investigation, and the restatement are behind us. Salaries and related costs fell $2.7 million from corporate restructuring.
Paul Kasowski: The decline primarily reflected launch of FFL transfer services, including startup and implementation costs incurred early in the quarter that are not expected to recur. Those implementation activities were substantially completed in May, and we expect the margin contribution from FFL transfer services to improve as the service scales, with total gross margin stabilizing above 85%. As noted previously, new services may carry lower margin than the legacy marketplace while still providing highly attractive incremental revenue and profit. Operating expenses are where the continuous improvement side of the quarter is most visible. Total operating expenses were $8.9 million, down $7.4 million or about 45% from $16.3 million a year ago. Legal and professional fees fell $3.7 million, mostly because the Delaware litigation, SEC investigation, audit investigation, and the restatement are behind us. Salaries and related costs fell $2.7 million from corporate restructuring.
Speaker #5: Those implementation activities were substantially completed in May, and we expect the margin contribution from FFL transfer services to improve as the service scales with total gross margins stabilizing above 85%.
Speaker #5: As noted previously, new services may carry lower margin than the legacy marketplace while still providing highly attractive incremental revenue and profit. Operating expenses are where the continuous improvement side of the quarter is most visible.
Speaker #5: Total operating expenses were $8.9 million, down $7.4 million, or about 45%, from $16.3 million a year ago. Legal and professional fees fell $3.7 million, mostly because the Delaware litigation, SEC investigation, audit investigation, and the restatement are behind us.
Speaker #5: Salaries and related costs fell 2.7 million dollars from corporate restructuring, stock-based compensation was down 0.4 million, and last year included 0.6 million dollars in one-time sales tax audit expenses that didn't repeat.
Paul Kasowski: Stock-based compensation was down $0.4 million, and last year included $0.6 million in one-time sales tax audit expenses that didn't repeat. The decline reflects the elimination of substantial legacy costs and materially lower recurring operating expense. We do not view cost discipline as a one-time restructuring exercise as we continue reviewing our cost structure, simplifying workflows, improving productivity, and reallocating resources towards the opportunities that offer the strongest long-term returns. Putting those elements together, net income from continuing operations was $3.6 million, compared with a loss of $5.9 million last year. This quarter realized over a $9 million improvement in a single year. After the $0.8 million preferred dividend, net income attributed to common shareholders was $2.8 million, or 2 cents per diluted share, compared with a loss of 6 cents per share in the prior year period.
Paul Kasowski: Stock-based compensation was down $0.4 million, and last year included $0.6 million in one-time sales tax audit expenses that didn't repeat. The decline reflects the elimination of substantial legacy costs and materially lower recurring operating expense. We do not view cost discipline as a one-time restructuring exercise as we continue reviewing our cost structure, simplifying workflows, improving productivity, and reallocating resources towards the opportunities that offer the strongest long-term returns. Putting those elements together, net income from continuing operations was $3.6 million, compared with a loss of $5.9 million last year. This quarter realized over a $9 million improvement in a single year. After the $0.8 million preferred dividend, net income attributed to common shareholders was $2.8 million, or 2 cents per diluted share, compared with a loss of 6 cents per share in the prior year period.
Speaker #5: The decline reflects the elimination of substantial legacy costs and materially lower recurring operating expense. We do not view cost discipline as a one-time restructuring exercise as we continue reviewing our cost structure, simplifying workflows, improving productivity, and reallocating resources towards the opportunities that offer the strongest long-term returns.
Speaker #5: Putting those elements together, net income from continuing operations was 3.6 million dollars compared with a loss of 5.9 million dollars last year. This quarter realized over a 9 million dollar improvement in a single year.
Speaker #5: After the 0.8 million dollar preferred dividend, net income attributed to common shareholders was 2.8 million dollars or 2 cents per diluted share compared with a loss of 6 cents per share in the prior year period.
Speaker #5: Adjusted EBITDA was 7.9 million compared with 3.1 million last year, an increase of approximately 152%. Quarterly adjusted EBITDA has grown sequentially every quarter for the past year.
Paul Kasowski: Adjusted EBITDA was $7.9 million, compared with $3.1 million last year, an increase of approximately 152%. Quarterly adjusted EBITDA has grown sequentially every quarter for the past year. $3.1 million, $4.9 million, $6.6 million, $7.7 million, and now $7.9 million. On a trailing 12-month basis, we're at approximately $27 million, which is comfortably above the $25 million annualized run rate goal established last year. The quality of the result also improved. Beyond interest taxes, depreciation, and amortization, our adjustments totaled approximately $0.9 million this quarter, which consisted of $0.6 million of SEC-related costs and $0.3 million of stock-based compensation. Comparable adjustments were approximately $5.6 million last year. The narrowing gap between reported and adjusted performance reflects the normalization of the business. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet, operating activities provided $4.4 million of cash compared with $6.7 million use of cash last year, an $11.1 million year-over-year improvement.
Paul Kasowski: Adjusted EBITDA was $7.9 million, compared with $3.1 million last year, an increase of approximately 152%. Quarterly adjusted EBITDA has grown sequentially every quarter for the past year. $3.1 million, $4.9 million, $6.6 million, $7.7 million, and now $7.9 million. On a trailing 12-month basis, we're at approximately $27 million, which is comfortably above the $25 million annualized run rate goal established last year. The quality of the result also improved. Beyond interest taxes, depreciation, and amortization, our adjustments totaled approximately $0.9 million this quarter, which consisted of $0.6 million of SEC-related costs and $0.3 million of stock-based compensation. Comparable adjustments were approximately $5.6 million last year. The narrowing gap between reported and adjusted performance reflects the normalization of the business. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet, operating activities provided $4.4 million of cash compared with $6.7 million use of cash last year, an $11.1 million year-over-year improvement.
Speaker #5: 3.1 million, 4.9 million, 6.6 million, 7.7 million, and now 7.9 million. On a trailing 12-month basis, we're at approximately 27 million dollars, which is comfortably above the 25 million dollar annualized run rate goal established last year.
Speaker #5: The quality of the result also improved. Beyond interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization, our adjustments totaled approximately $0.9 million this quarter, which consisted of $0.6 million of SEC-related costs and $0.3 million of stock-based compensation.
Speaker #5: Comparable adjustments were approximately 5.6 million last year. The narrowing gap between reported and adjusted performance reflects the normalization of the business. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet, operating activities provided 4.4 million of cash compared with 6.7 million use of cash last year.
Speaker #5: An $11.1 million year-over-year improvement. We funded $2 million of share repurchases, $0.8 million in preferred dividends, and the scheduled $1 million payment of the related-party note.
Paul Kasowski: We funded $2 million of share repurchases, $0.8 million in preferred dividends, and the scheduled $1 million payment of the related party note. Despite those uses of cash, we still managed to increase our cash position by $0.7 million to $68.8 million. The business generated enough cash to invest in the platform, return capital to shareholders, meet its obligations, and still strengthen the cash position. On share repurchases, we bought just over one million shares this quarter for $2 million. Since launching the program in January of 2026, we've repurchased about 1.5 million shares at an average of $1.97 per share, with $12 million still available under the $15 million authorization. We continue to evaluate repurchases on the same basis as other capital allocation decisions and what generates the best risk-adjusted return for our common shareholders.
Paul Kasowski: We funded $2 million of share repurchases, $0.8 million in preferred dividends, and the scheduled $1 million payment of the related party note. Despite those uses of cash, we still managed to increase our cash position by $0.7 million to $68.8 million. The business generated enough cash to invest in the platform, return capital to shareholders, meet its obligations, and still strengthen the cash position. On share repurchases, we bought just over one million shares this quarter for $2 million. Since launching the program in January of 2026, we've repurchased about 1.5 million shares at an average of $1.97 per share, with $12 million still available under the $15 million authorization. We continue to evaluate repurchases on the same basis as other capital allocation decisions and what generates the best risk-adjusted return for our common shareholders.
Speaker #5: Despite those uses of cash, we still managed to increase our cash position by 0.7 million to 68.8 million, the business generated enough cash to invest in the platform, return capital to shareholders, meet its obligations, and still strengthen the cash position.
Speaker #5: On share repurchases, we bought just over 1 million shares this quarter for 2 million dollars. Since launching the program in January of 2026, we've repurchased about 1.5 million shares at an average of $1.97 per share with 12 million still available under the 15 million dollar authorization.
Speaker #5: We continue to evaluate repurchases on the same basis as other capitalization decisions and what generates the best risk-adjusted return for our common shareholders. These results reflect disciplined daily execution.
Paul Kasowski: These results reflect disciplined daily execution, managing costs, simplifying the organization, improving operating efficiency, and investing selectively in the user experience. Operational improvement is not a project with an end date. It is an ongoing management responsibility. Our objective is not simply to operate at the lowest possible cost. It is to direct resources toward the uses that can generate the strongest long-term returns. With that, I will turn the call back over to Steve.
Paul Kasowski: These results reflect disciplined daily execution, managing costs, simplifying the organization, improving operating efficiency, and investing selectively in the user experience. Operational improvement is not a project with an end date. It is an ongoing management responsibility. Our objective is not simply to operate at the lowest possible cost. It is to direct resources toward the uses that can generate the strongest long-term returns. With that, I will turn the call back over to Steve.
Speaker #5: Managing costs, simplifying the organization, improving operating efficiency, and investing selectively in the user experience—operational improvement is not a project with an end date; it's an ongoing management responsibility.
Speaker #5: Our objective is not simply to operate at the lowest possible cost; it is to direct resources toward the uses that can generate the strongest long-term returns.
Speaker #5: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Steve.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Paul. Q1 demonstrates the earnings power of the model, but we are not extrapolating a single quarter. Virginia pulled some demand forward. The more durable elements are our continually improving cost structure, stronger marketplace productivity, and expanding revenue streams.
Steven Urvan: Thank you, Paul. Q1 demonstrates the earnings power of the model, but we are not extrapolating a single quarter. Virginia pulled some demand forward. More durable elements are our continually improving cost structure, stronger marketplace productivity, and expanding revenue streams. Our focus is to build on the foundation established over the past year through our operating philosophy, continuous improvement, disciplined growth. I will close with three areas of focus: the market, the platform, and capital allocation. First, the market. The broader consumer environment is still cautious, but firearms demand has been resilient with adjusted NICS positive year-over-year in nearly every month of calendar 2026 through the end of the first quarter. Our economics differ fundamentally from those of a manufacturer or retailer. We do not own firearm inventory, take product obsolescence risk, or depend on any single brand or product cycle.
Steven Urvan: Thank you, Paul. Q1 demonstrates the earnings power of the model, but we are not extrapolating a single quarter. Virginia pulled some demand forward. More durable elements are our continually improving cost structure, stronger marketplace productivity, and expanding revenue streams. Our focus is to build on the foundation established over the past year through our operating philosophy, continuous improvement, disciplined growth. I will close with three areas of focus: the market, the platform, and capital allocation. First, the market. The broader consumer environment is still cautious, but firearms demand has been resilient with adjusted NICS positive year-over-year in nearly every month of calendar 2026 through the end of the first quarter. Our economics differ fundamentally from those of a manufacturer or retailer. We do not own firearm inventory, take product obsolescence risk, or depend on any single brand or product cycle.
Speaker #1: Our focus is to build on the foundation established over the past year through our operating philosophy, continuous improvement, and disciplined growth. I'll close with three areas of focus.
Speaker #1: The market, the platform, and capital allocation. First, the market. The broader consumer environment is still cautious, but firearms demand has been resilient, with adjusted NICS positive year-over-year in nearly every month of calendar 2026 through the end of the first quarter.
Speaker #1: Our economics differ fundamentally from those of a manufacturer or retailer. We do not own firearm inventory, take product obsolescence risk, or depend on any single brand or product cycle.
Speaker #1: We operate a national, asset-light marketplace spanning new and used products, thousands of sellers, and a broad range of categories. The FFL transfer integration and our marketplace service fee also reflect an important competitive reality.
Steven Urvan: We operate a national asset-light marketplace spanning new and used products, thousands of sellers, and a broad range of categories. The FFL transfer integration and our marketplace service fee also reflect an important competitive reality. Compliant commerce at scale is difficult, and GunBroker.com has spent more than 25 years building the specialized marketplace, network, and infrastructure to facilitate it. Second, the platform. Our strategy is straightforward. Remove friction from each step of the transaction and attach services that make e-commerce easier, safer, and more efficient. That allows us to improve user experience and increase take rate without relying solely on increases to the base final value fee. The path includes FFL transfers, universal payments, and premium programs such as Collector's Elite, and over time, advertising.
Steven Urvan: We operate a national asset-light marketplace spanning new and used products, thousands of sellers, and a broad range of categories. The FFL transfer integration and our marketplace service fee also reflect an important competitive reality. Compliant commerce at scale is difficult, and GunBroker.com has spent more than 25 years building the specialized marketplace, network, and infrastructure to facilitate it. Second, the platform. Our strategy is straightforward. Remove friction from each step of the transaction and attach services that make e-commerce easier, safer, and more efficient. That allows us to improve user experience and increase take rate without relying solely on increases to the base final value fee. The path includes FFL transfers, universal payments, and premium programs such as Collector's Elite, and over time, advertising.
Speaker #1: Compliant commerce at scale is difficult, and Gumberger has spent more than 25 years building the specialized marketplace network and infrastructure to facilitate it. Second, the platform.
Speaker #1: Our strategy is straightforward: remove friction from each step of the transaction and attach services that make e-commerce easier, safer, and more efficient. That allows us to improve user experience and increase take rate without relying solely on increases to the base final value fee.
Speaker #1: The path includes FFL transfers, universal payments, and premium programs such as Collector's Elite—and, over time, advertising. FFL transfer services contributed 39 basis points to take rate this quarter, while providing a larger dealer network, centralized verification and compliance, and a more streamlined transfer process.
Steven Urvan: FFL transfer services contributed 39 basis points to take rate this quarter while providing a larger dealer network, centralized verification and compliance, and a more streamlined transfer process. We continue to advance universal payment processing. Our AI listing tool is intended to reduce listing time, standardize product descriptions, and improve marketplace searchability. We are also piloting an AI-supported customer service agent intended to improve response times and handle routine inquiries more efficiently while preserving human escalation for complex matters. We will deploy these tools only when they meet our quality and operational standards. Third, capital allocation. Our priorities are unchanged. Keep the balance sheet strong, invest selectively in high-return platform enhancements, and return excess cash to shareholders.
Steven Urvan: FFL transfer services contributed 39 basis points to take rate this quarter while providing a larger dealer network, centralized verification and compliance, and a more streamlined transfer process. We continue to advance universal payment processing. Our AI listing tool is intended to reduce listing time, standardize product descriptions, and improve marketplace searchability. We are also piloting an AI-supported customer service agent intended to improve response times and handle routine inquiries more efficiently while preserving human escalation for complex matters. We will deploy these tools only when they meet our quality and operational standards. Third, capital allocation. Our priorities are unchanged. Keep the balance sheet strong, invest selectively in high-return platform enhancements, and return excess cash to shareholders.
Speaker #1: We continue to advance universal payment processing. Our AI listing tool is intended to reduce listing time, standardize product descriptions, and improve marketplace searchability. We are also piloting an AI-supported customer service agent intended to improve response times and handle routine inquiries more efficiently, while preserving human escalation for complex matters.
Speaker #1: We will deploy these tools only when they meet our quality and operational standards. Third, capital allocation. Our priorities are unchanged: keep the balance sheet strong, invest selectively in high-return platform enhancements, and return excess cash to shareholders.
Speaker #1: We doubled our share repurchase activity this quarter versus last, and we intend to remain opportunistic under the share repurchase authorization, subject to market conditions, liquidity, and the needs of the business.
Steven Urvan: We doubled our share repurchase activity this quarter versus last, and we intend to remain opportunistic under the share repurchase authorization subject to market conditions, liquidity, and the needs of the business. Let me close with one thought. Our operating philosophy is simple: continuous improvement, disciplined growth. Continuous improvement means operating the business better every quarter. We continually challenge our cost structure, simplify processes, improve the customer experience, apply technology where it creates measurable value, and allocate capital to its highest and best use. Disciplined growth means investing in initiatives that strengthen the platform, expand monetization through value-added services, and create durable long-term shareholder value. Every major decision we make fits within one of those two principles. Our priorities for the balance of fiscal 2027 are therefore clear.
Steven Urvan: We doubled our share repurchase activity this quarter versus last, and we intend to remain opportunistic under the share repurchase authorization subject to market conditions, liquidity, and the needs of the business. Let me close with one thought. Our operating philosophy is simple: continuous improvement, disciplined growth. Continuous improvement means operating the business better every quarter. We continually challenge our cost structure, simplify processes, improve the customer experience, apply technology where it creates measurable value, and allocate capital to its highest and best use. Disciplined growth means investing in initiatives that strengthen the platform, expand monetization through value-added services, and create durable long-term shareholder value. Every major decision we make fits within one of those two principles. Our priorities for the balance of fiscal 2027 are therefore clear.
Speaker #1: Let me close with one thought. Our operating philosophy is simple: continuous improvement, discipline growth. Continuous improvement means operating the business better every quarter. We continually challenge our cost structure, simplified processes, improve the customer experience, apply technology where it creates measurable value, and allocate capital to its highest and best use.
Speaker #1: Discipline growth means investing in initiatives that strengthen the platform, expand monetization through value-added services, and create durable, long-term shareholder value. Every major decision we make fits within one of those two principles.
Speaker #1: Our priorities for the balance of fiscal 2027 are therefore clear: grow marketplace activity and revenue, continue reducing costs and improving operating efficiency, scale new transaction services, convert technology investment into measurable productivity, and turn earnings into cash and shareholder value.
Steven Urvan: Grow marketplace activity and revenue, continue reducing costs and improving operating efficiency, scale new transaction services, convert technology investment into measurable productivity, and turn earnings into cash and shareholder value. The stabilization phase is substantially behind us, but operating improvement is continuous. Q1 demonstrates that we are executing against that philosophy. A growing marketplace, an exceptionally high margin core business, a leaner cost structure, new monetization opportunities, and a strong balance sheet. With gross margins in the mid-80s and a lean cost base, incremental GMV can produce substantial value for shareholders. With that, operator, let's open it up for questions.
Steven Urvan: Grow marketplace activity and revenue, continue reducing costs and improving operating efficiency, scale new transaction services, convert technology investment into measurable productivity, and turn earnings into cash and shareholder value. The stabilization phase is substantially behind us, but operating improvement is continuous. Q1 demonstrates that we are executing against that philosophy. A growing marketplace, an exceptionally high margin core business, a leaner cost structure, new monetization opportunities, and a strong balance sheet. With gross margins in the mid-80s and a lean cost base, incremental GMV can produce substantial value for shareholders. With that, operator, let's open it up for questions.
Speaker #1: The stabilization phase is substantially behind us, but operating improvement is continuous. Q1 demonstrates that we are executing against that philosophy: a growing marketplace and exceptionally high-margin core business, a leaner cost structure, new monetization opportunities, and a strong balance sheet.
Speaker #1: With gross margins in the mid-80s and a lean cost base, incremental GMV can produce substantial value for shareholders. With that operator, let's open it up for questions.
Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from Mark Smith with Lake Street. Please go ahead.
Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from Mark Smith with Lake Street. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #2: And your first question comes from Mark Smith with Lake Street. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Hey guys, one desk first about the FFL transfer revenue. Can you give us just any thoughts around maybe growth in this business, how it trended during the quarter, and kind of outlook as we go forward?
Mark Smith: Hey, guys. Wanted to ask first about the FFL transfer revenue. Can you give us just any thoughts around maybe growth in this business, how it trended during the quarter, and kind of outlook as we go forward?
Mark Smith: Hey, guys. Wanted to ask first about the FFL transfer revenue. Can you give us just any thoughts around maybe growth in this business, how it trended during the quarter, and kind of outlook as we go forward?
Speaker #4: Yes, thank you, Mark. So, this quarter, in terms of growth, the FFL transfer revenue is only for firearms transactions—the only ones that you need an FFL for.
Steven Urvan: Yes. Thank you, Mark. This quarter, in terms of growth, the FFL transfer revenue is only for firearms transactions, the only one that you need an FFL for. Therefore, it is going to move up and down as the actual really the count, not necessarily the dollar value, but the count of firearms transactions moves up and down. We had some additional costs for the implementation that kind of tailed out toward the end of this quarter. So we expect that to be kind of stabilized at this point and to provide meaningful revenue and meaningful profitability as we move forward.
Steven Urvan: Yes. Thank you, Mark. This quarter, in terms of growth, the FFL transfer revenue is only for firearms transactions, the only one that you need an FFL for. Therefore, it is going to move up and down as the actual really the count, not necessarily the dollar value, but the count of firearms transactions moves up and down. We had some additional costs for the implementation that kind of tailed out toward the end of this quarter. So we expect that to be kind of stabilized at this point and to provide meaningful revenue and meaningful profitability as we move forward.
Speaker #4: And therefore, it's going to move up and down as the actual really that counts, not necessarily the dollar value, but the count of firearms transactions moves up and down.
Speaker #4: We had some additional costs for the implementation that kind of tailed off toward the end of this quarter, so we expect that to be kind of stabilized at this point.
Speaker #4: And to provide meaningful revenue and meaningful profitability as we move forward.
Speaker #3: Okay. And Paul, I apologize if I missed it. Did you break out the impact on margin just from the addition of this FFL transfer business?
Mark Smith: Okay. Paul, I apologize if I missed it. Did you break out kind of the impact on margin just from the addition of this FFL transfer business?
Mark Smith: Okay. Paul, I apologize if I missed it. Did you break out kind of the impact on margin just from the addition of this FFL transfer business?
Speaker #5: No, we talked about the combined new weighted average—the current and expected run rate versus the historical run rate.
Paul Kasowski: No. We talked about the combined new weighted average, the current and expected run rate versus the historical run rate.
Paul Kasowski: No. We talked about the combined new weighted average, the current and expected run rate versus the historical run rate.
Mark Smith: Okay.
Mark Smith: Okay.
Speaker #3: Okay.
Speaker #4: I think we did. We did say it contributed 39 basis points to our take rate, and so that can give you some sense of magnitude, or what have you.
Steven Urvan: I think we did. We did say it contributed 39 basis points to our take rate, and so that can give you some sense of magnitude or what have you.
Steven Urvan: I think we did. We did say it contributed 39 basis points to our take rate, and so that can give you some sense of magnitude or what have you.
Speaker #3: That's cool. Yeah. And I think the last question for me, I wanted to just ask about NFA items obviously really solid. Year-over-year growth. Here's kind of sequential trends if we've seen any slowdown in that business, kind of after the initial surge in January with the change in the stamp tax on that.
Mark Smith: That is cool. Yeah. I think the last question for me, I wanted to just ask about NFA items. Obviously really solid year-over-year growth. Curious kind of sequential trends, if we have seen any slowdown in that business kind of after the initial surge in January with the change in the stamp tax on that. Any insights into NFA items and how they are trending would be great.
Mark Smith: That is cool. Yeah. I think the last question for me, I wanted to just ask about NFA items. Obviously really solid year-over-year growth. Curious kind of sequential trends, if we have seen any slowdown in that business kind of after the initial surge in January with the change in the stamp tax on that. Any insights into NFA items and how they are trending would be great.
Speaker #3: Any insights into NFA items and how they're trending would be great.
Speaker #5: Yeah, they're up quite a bit quarter over quarter. Let me pull up the exact—right around 50% on NFA items versus last quarter, same year.
Paul Kasowski: Yeah. They are up quite a bit quarter-over-quarter. Let me pull it up. It was right around 50% on NFA items, first since last quarter of the same year.
Paul Kasowski: Yeah. They are up quite a bit quarter-over-quarter. Let me pull it up. It was right around 50% on NFA items, first since last quarter of the same year.
Speaker #3: Perfect. Thank you.
Mark Smith: Perfect. Thank you.
Mark Smith: Perfect. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Matt Caronda with Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Matt Koranda with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Matt Koranda with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Thanks. Sounds like core GMV, even next to Virginia benefits, grew pretty nicely. So just wondering how demand trended into July on the marketplace, just given broader adjusted NICs still look pretty healthy and growing on a year-over-year basis.
Matt Koranda: Hey, guys. Thanks. Sounds like core GMV, even ex the Virginia benefits grew pretty nicely. Just wondering how demand trended into July on the marketplace, just given broader adjusted mix still look pretty healthy and growing on a year-over-year basis. Any commentary on traffic, conversion, marketplace mix, AOV, whatever you want to call out would be super helpful.
Matt Koranda: Hey, guys. Thanks. Sounds like core GMV, even ex the Virginia benefits grew pretty nicely. Just wondering how demand trended into July on the marketplace, just given broader adjusted mix still look pretty healthy and growing on a year-over-year basis. Any commentary on traffic, conversion, marketplace mix, AOV, whatever you want to call out would be super helpful.
Speaker #6: Any commentary on traffic, conversion, marketplace mix, AOV—whatever you want to call out would be super helpful.
Speaker #5: Yeah, we definitely saw go ahead, Steve.
Paul Kasowski: Yeah, we definitely saw-
Paul Kasowski: Yeah, we definitely saw-
Steven Urvan: So-
Steven Urvan: So-
Paul Kasowski: Go ahead, Steve.
Paul Kasowski: Go ahead, Steve.
Speaker #4: Go ahead, Paul. No, you go ahead.
Steven Urvan: Go ahead, Paul. No, you go.
Steven Urvan: Go ahead, Paul. No, you go.
Speaker #5: No, I was just going to say, we definitely saw we outpaced pretty heavy kind of going into July. It's definitely our slower time of year.
Paul Kasowski: No, I was just going to say we definitely saw we outpaced pretty heavy. You said kind of going into July, it is definitely our slower time of year. We saw a little bit of a tail off typical as well. The other thing we saw with specific to Virginia and some other states is that as these legislation was going into effect, we saw a little bit of a dip off in people going back to brick and mortar more so than online, just due to the timing of legislation going into effect.
Paul Kasowski: No, I was just going to say we definitely saw we outpaced pretty heavy. You said kind of going into July, it is definitely our slower time of year. We saw a little bit of a tail off typical as well. The other thing we saw with specific to Virginia and some other states is that as these legislation was going into effect, we saw a little bit of a dip off in people going back to brick and mortar more so than online, just due to the timing of legislation going into effect.
Speaker #5: So we saw a little bit of a tail-off, typical as well. The other thing we saw, specific to Virginia and some other states, is that as this legislation was going into effect, we saw a little bit of a dip-off in people going back to brick-and-mortar more so than online.
Speaker #5: Just due to the timing of legislation going into effect.
Speaker #4: So just in general, summer is the slowest time of year for us. People are outside, they're on vacation, they're not sitting in front of their computers and shopping.
Steven Urvan: Just in general, summer is the slowest time of year for us. People are outside, they are on vacation, they are not sitting in front of their computer and shopping. This is a pattern that is repeated since 1999 when I started this company. Not surprising, it is just a seasonal aspect of things. The Virginia thing was interesting just because you get a kind of rush of demand because of a new law that is going to be implemented, then the courts put the law on hold, let you go back to buying those items, demand fell off. It just shows you that, in this business, there is a lot of factors that just are not general marketplace factors. There is a lot of fear, uncertainty, and doubt drivers, legislative changes, political changes can influence GMV and purchasing intent by our consumers.
Steven Urvan: Just in general, summer is the slowest time of year for us. People are outside, they are on vacation, they are not sitting in front of their computer and shopping. This is a pattern that is repeated since 1999 when I started this company. Not surprising, it is just a seasonal aspect of things. The Virginia thing was interesting just because you get a kind of rush of demand because of a new law that is going to be implemented, then the courts put the law on hold, let you go back to buying those items, demand fell off. It just shows you that, in this business, there is a lot of factors that just are not general marketplace factors. There is a lot of fear, uncertainty, and doubt drivers, legislative changes, political changes can influence GMV and purchasing intent by our consumers.
Speaker #4: And this is a pattern that's repeated since 1999, when I started this company. So, not surprising. It's just a seasonal aspect of things. The Virginia thing was interesting just because you get a kind of a rush of demand because of a new law that's going to be implemented, then the courts put the law on hold.
Speaker #4: Let you go back to buying those items demand fell off. And it just shows you that in this business, there is a lot of a lot of factors that just aren't general marketplace factors.
Speaker #4: There's a lot of fear, uncertainty, and doubt drivers. Legislative changes and political changes can influence GMV and purchasing intent by our consumers.
Speaker #6: Okay, all right. That's helpful, guys. And then on AI implementation, I guess you called it out in the prepared remarks around customer service. Is that fully rolled out now?
Matt Koranda: Okay. All right. That is helpful, guys. On AI implementation, I guess you called it out in the prepared remarks around customer service. Is that fully rolled out now? Maybe just talk about the rollout there, and then any other initiatives, Steve, that you are excited about that might be helpful in terms of impacting GMV growth in the coming quarters.
Matt Koranda: Okay. All right. That is helpful, guys. On AI implementation, I guess you called it out in the prepared remarks around customer service. Is that fully rolled out now? Maybe just talk about the rollout there, and then any other initiatives, Steve, that you are excited about that might be helpful in terms of impacting GMV growth in the coming quarters.
Speaker #6: Maybe just talk about the rollout there, and then any other initiatives, Steve, that you're excited about that might be helpful in terms of impacting GMV growth in the coming quarters.
Speaker #4: I am extremely excited about AI. The customer service, we did implement it. It is up and running. It's very, very recent. And so I can't—I don't have any kind of meaningful data on that as of yet.
Steven Urvan: I am extremely excited about AI. The customer service, we did implement it. It is up and running. It is very recent, and so I do not have any kind of meaningful data on that as of yet. The sample size is just too small. We can be talking about that down the road. But it is implemented and it is live. We hired an AI director. We have examined everything about the business. We are looking at everything we do, and looking for ways that AI can make it better or make us more productive, cut costs and what have you. Just super excited about it. The AI implementation is ongoing, and we expect that it is going to be a driver not only of GMV and revenue, but also something that will reduce costs and make us more efficient.
Steven Urvan: I am extremely excited about AI. The customer service, we did implement it. It is up and running. It is very recent, and so I do not have any kind of meaningful data on that as of yet. The sample size is just too small. We can be talking about that down the road. But it is implemented and it is live. We hired an AI director. We have examined everything about the business. We are looking at everything we do, and looking for ways that AI can make it better or make us more productive, cut costs and what have you. Just super excited about it. The AI implementation is ongoing, and we expect that it is going to be a driver not only of GMV and revenue, but also something that will reduce costs and make us more efficient.
Speaker #4: The sample size is just too small, so we can be talking about that down the road. But it is implemented, and it is live.
Speaker #4: We hired an AI director. We've examined everything about the business, looking at everything we do and looking for ways that AI can make it better, make us more productive, cut costs, and what have you.
Speaker #4: Just super excited about it. So the AI implementation is ongoing, and we expect that it's going to be a driver not only of GMV and revenue, but also something that will reduce costs and make us more efficient.
Steven Urvan: In terms of headcount, given the kind of volumes we do, we don't have a lot of employees. We use technology to provide tremendous operational leverage. AI is just a spectacular tool for doing that.
Steven Urvan: In terms of headcount, given the kind of volumes we do, we don't have a lot of employees. We use technology to provide tremendous operational leverage. AI is just a spectacular tool for doing that.
Speaker #4: In terms of headcount, given the kind of volumes we do, we don't have a lot of employees. And so we use technology to provide tremendous operational leverage.
Speaker #4: And AI is just a spectacular tool for doing that.
Speaker #6: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. And maybe that just brings me to the last question, which is, you've surpassed the $25 million adjusted EBITDA target that you initially set out to achieve.
Matt Koranda: Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. That brings me to the last question, which is, you've surpassed the $25 million adjusted EBITDA target that you initially set out to achieve. It looks like if we look at the Q1 core OpEx, maybe things are normalizing here in terms of expense. Could you just talk about the next waypoints to look for, what we should be thinking about? Maybe if Paul wants to talk about kind of core OpEx and what to pull forward for the rest of the year would be helpful.
Matt Koranda: Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. That brings me to the last question, which is, you've surpassed the $25 million adjusted EBITDA target that you initially set out to achieve. It looks like if we look at the Q1 core OpEx, maybe things are normalizing here in terms of expense. Could you just talk about the next waypoints to look for, what we should be thinking about? Maybe if Paul wants to talk about kind of core OpEx and what to pull forward for the rest of the year would be helpful.
Speaker #6: And it looks like, if we look at the first quarter kind of core opex, maybe things are normalizing here in terms of expense. But maybe could you just talk about the next waypoints to look for—what we should be thinking about? Maybe if Paul wants to talk about kind of core opex and what to pull forward for the rest of the year.
Speaker #6: Would be helpful.
Steven Urvan: Sure. I'll let Paul take it in a second, but when you look at, one of the things I'm excited about is obviously the delta between adjusted EBITDA and EBITDA, it's closing. We said as we resolve these things, as we resolve issues, our cash flow, our profitability, our adjusted EBITDA, these numbers are going to continue to converge. This quarter we had a lot less, like in the prior quarter, we had the $4.4 million legal settlement. A lot of those things are in the historical past. They're not recurring going forward, and we continue to make progress on that. It's very exciting to see the cash flow of this business increasing, the profitability of this business increasing as we're putting these things behind us. So I'll let Paul talk about this a little more.
Steven Urvan: Sure. I'll let Paul take it in a second, but when you look at, one of the things I'm excited about is obviously the delta between adjusted EBITDA and EBITDA, it's closing. We said as we resolve these things, as we resolve issues, our cash flow, our profitability, our adjusted EBITDA, these numbers are going to continue to converge. This quarter we had a lot less, like in the prior quarter, we had the $4.4 million legal settlement. A lot of those things are in the historical past. They're not recurring going forward, and we continue to make progress on that. It's very exciting to see the cash flow of this business increasing, the profitability of this business increasing as we're putting these things behind us. So I'll let Paul talk about this a little more.
Speaker #4: I'll let Paul take it in a second, but when you look at it, one of the things I'm excited about is obviously the delta between adjusted EBITDA and EBITDA, or as it's closing.
Speaker #4: And so we said, as we resolve these things, as we keep—as we resolve issues—our cash flows, our profitability, our adjusted EBITDA, these numbers are going to continue to converge.
Speaker #4: And this quarter we had a lot less. Like in the prior quarter, we had the $4.4 million legal settlement. A lot of those things are in our historical past.
Speaker #4: They're not recurring going forward, and we continue to make progress on that. So, it's very exciting to see the cash flow of this business increasing and the profitability of this business increasing as we're putting these things behind us.
Speaker #4: So, I'll let Paul talk about this a little more.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I think this quarter definitely reflects a better run rate. For the normalized business, I think where it would not include some items is where we're going to continue to invest in the business.
Paul Kasowski: Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I think this quarter definitely reflects a better run rate of the normalized business. I think where if we not include some items is where we're going to continue to invest in the business, but those investments should have kind of returns on them. So like Steve mentioned, areas like AI, where there's potentially growth and productivity investments we'd expect in the future as well.
Paul Kasowski: Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I think this quarter definitely reflects a better run rate of the normalized business. I think where if we not include some items is where we're going to continue to invest in the business, but those investments should have kind of returns on them. So like Steve mentioned, areas like AI, where there's potentially growth and productivity investments we'd expect in the future as well.
Speaker #5: But those investments should have some kind of returns on them. So, like Steve mentioned, areas like AI where there's potential growth in productivity investments—we've expected that in the future as well.
Speaker #6: Okay. Very helpful, guys. I'll leave it there.
Matt Koranda: Okay. Very helpful, guys. I will leave it there.
Matt Koranda: Okay. Very helpful, guys. I will leave it there.
Operator: That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Steven Urvan for closing remarks.
Operator: That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Steven Urvan for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: That concludes our question-and-answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Steve Urvan for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you all for joining us today and for your interest in Outdoor Holding Company. This quarter is a credit to the entire GunBroker and Outdoor Holding team.
Steven Urvan: Thank you all for joining us today and for your interest in Outdoor Holding Company. This quarter is a credit to the entire GunBroker.com and Outdoor Holding team. We look forward to updating you on our progress when we report our fiscal Q2 results in November. Thank you, and have a great day.
Steven Urvan: Thank you all for joining us today and for your interest in Outdoor Holding Company. This quarter is a credit to the entire GunBroker.com and Outdoor Holding team. We look forward to updating you on our progress when we report our fiscal Q2 results in November. Thank you, and have a great day.
Speaker #4: We look forward to updating you on our progress when we report our fiscal second quarter results in November. Thank you, and have a great day.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.