Q2 2026 Premium Brands Holdings Corp Earnings Call - Q&A

Speaker #1: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Premium Brands Holdings Corporation Q2 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, our lines are in listen-only mode.

Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the PREMIUM BRANDS HOLDINGS Corporation Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, 6 August 2026, and I would now like to turn the conference over to George Paleologou, CEO and President of PREMIUM BRANDS, and Will Kalutycz, CFO of PREMIUM BRANDS. Mr. Paleologou, please go ahead.

Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the PREMIUM BRANDS HOLDINGS Corporation Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, 6 August 2026, and I would now like to turn the conference over to George Paleologou, CEO and President of PREMIUM BRANDS, and Will Kalutycz, CFO of PREMIUM BRANDS. Mr. Paleologou, please go ahead.

Speaker #1: If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, August 6, 2026.

Speaker #1: And I would now like to turn the conference over to George Palyologou, CEO and President of Premium Brands, and welcome the CFO of Premium Brands, Mr. Palyologou.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Ina. Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to our Q2 2026 conference call. With me here today is our CFO, Will Kaludich. Hopefully, you've had a chance to listen to our prerecorded remarks posted on our website this morning.

Will Kalutycz: Thank you, Ina. Good morning and welcome everyone to our 2026 Q2 conference call. With me here today is our CFO, Will Kalutycz. Hopefully, you've had a chance to listen to our pre-recorded remarks posted on our website this morning. We will now take your questions. Ina?

George Paleologou: Thank you, Ina. Good morning and welcome everyone to our 2026 Q2 conference call. With me here today is our CFO, Will Kalutycz. Hopefully, you've had a chance to listen to our pre-recorded remarks posted on our website this morning. We will now take your questions. Ina?

Speaker #2: We will now take your questions. Ina?

Speaker #1: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the Q&A session. Should you have a question, please press star, followed by 1 on your telephone keypad.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised, and should you wish to cancel your request, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment please for your first question. Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Martin Landry from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised, and should you wish to cancel your request, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment please for your first question. Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Martin Landry from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: You will hear a prompt that Johanna has been raised, and should you wish to cancel your request, please press star followed by 2.

Speaker #1: If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Thank you. And your first question comes from the line of Martin Landry from Stifel.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Hi, good morning, George and Will. Good morning, Martin. My first question is on your Specialty Food segment. For Q2, I think your organic volume growth was 6%.

Martin Landry: Hi. Good morning, George and Will.

Martin Landry: Hi. Good morning, George and Will.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning, Martin.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning, Martin.

George Paleologou: Good morning, Martin.

George Paleologou: Good morning, Martin.

Martin Landry: My first question is on your specialty foods segment. For the Q2, I think your organic volume growth was 6%. When I look at it seems to be the lowest it has been in the last 4 quarters. You seem to have had an easy comparable period last year at the comp. I was wondering if you can discuss a little bit the environment out there. The US economy seems to be doing well. Are your clients hesitating on some projects? Are you losing bids to competitors? Just a little bit of color on the competitive dynamic would be great.

Martin Landry: My first question is on your specialty foods segment. For the Q2, I think your organic volume growth was 6%. When I look at it seems to be the lowest it has been in the last 4 quarters. You seem to have had an easy comparable period last year at the comp. I was wondering if you can discuss a little bit the environment out there. The US economy seems to be doing well. Are your clients hesitating on some projects? Are you losing bids to competitors? Just a little bit of color on the competitive dynamic would be great.

Speaker #3: When I look at it, it seems to be the lowest it's been in the last four quarters. And you seem to have had an easy comparable period last year to comp.

Speaker #3: So, I was wondering if you can discuss a little bit about the environment out there. The U.S. economy seems to be doing well. Are your clients hesitating on some projects?

Speaker #3: Are you losing bids to competitors? Just a little bit of color on the competitive dynamic would be great.

Speaker #2: Yeah, an absolute no on both those points, Martin. Our U.S. sales base is doing well. You saw we generated 25% organic volume growth on our protein initiatives in the U.S.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. An absolute no on both those points, Martin. Our US sales space is doing well. You saw we generated 25% organic volume growth on our protein initiatives in the US. There is no sign of slowdown there. It just continues to be strong. The headwind in the quarter was similar to last quarter with the loss of the major LTO with a customer, that we had expected to come back in the H2 this year, but it will be now early 2027. The only new factor in the equation on the specialty foods side is really in Canada. We did see some slower sales in Eastern Canada. We are expecting it was weather related. Outside of that, everything is green.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. An absolute no on both those points, Martin. Our US sales space is doing well. You saw we generated 25% organic volume growth on our protein initiatives in the US. There is no sign of slowdown there. It just continues to be strong. The headwind in the quarter was similar to last quarter with the loss of the major LTO with a customer, that we had expected to come back in the H2 this year, but it will be now early 2027. The only new factor in the equation on the specialty foods side is really in Canada. We did see some slower sales in Eastern Canada. We are expecting it was weather related. Outside of that, everything is green.

Speaker #2: There is no sign of slowdown there. It just continues to be strong. The headwind in the quarter was similar to last quarter with the loss of the major LTO with a customer.

Speaker #2: That was what we had expected to come back in the second half of this year, but it'll be now early 2027. The only new factor in the equation on the specialty food side is really in Canada.

Speaker #2: We did see some slower sales in Eastern Canada, and we're expecting it was weather-related, but outside of that, everything is green.

Speaker #3: Okay. And can you discuss a little bit how you see the rest of the year shaping up? Is the growth going to be more back-end loaded towards Q4, or spread evenly in Q3 and Q4, using your revised guidance?

Martin Landry: Okay. Can you discuss a little bit how you see the rest of the year shape up? Is the growth going to be more back-end loaded towards Q4 or spread evenly in Q3 and Q4 using your revised guidance?

Martin Landry: Okay. Can you discuss a little bit how you see the rest of the year shape up? Is the growth going to be more back-end loaded towards Q4 or spread evenly in Q3 and Q4 using your revised guidance?

Speaker #2: Yeah, pretty evenly over the quarters. Maybe a little bit weighted to Q4 because, as part of our revenue guidance revisions, there were really three key factors, as we talked about in our MD&A and press release.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Pretty evenly over the quarters. Maybe a little bit weighted to the Q4 because as part of our revenue guidance revisions. There were really three key factors as we talk about in our MD&A and press release. One of the factors, really, there are two elements, and that is on our specialty foods initiatives in the US. As I mentioned on your last question, the LTO deferral, obviously, that is going to impact us as that moves to 2027. The factor that maybe impacts your current question a little bit is the other thing that hit our guidance or result in a revised guidance was on the retail side of our US business. We had two major launches happening in the H2 of the year. One, it launched, but the customer went with a phased-in approach instead of an all-out bang approach with all their stores across the US.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Pretty evenly over the quarters. Maybe a little bit weighted to the Q4 because as part of our revenue guidance revisions. There were really three key factors as we talk about in our MD&A and press release. One of the factors, really, there are two elements, and that is on our specialty foods initiatives in the US. As I mentioned on your last question, the LTO deferral, obviously, that is going to impact us as that moves to 2027. The factor that maybe impacts your current question a little bit is the other thing that hit our guidance or result in a revised guidance was on the retail side of our US business. We had two major launches happening in the H2 of the year. One, it launched, but the customer went with a phased-in approach instead of an all-out bang approach with all their stores across the US.

Speaker #2: One of the factors really, there's two elements, and that's on the on our specialty foods initiatives in the U.S. As I mentioned in on your last question, the LTO deferral, obviously that's going to impact us as that moves to 2027.

Speaker #2: But the factor that may be impacting your current question a little bit is the other thing that hit our guidance, or resulted in a revised guidance, was on the retail side of our U.S.

Speaker #2: We had two major launches happening in the back half of the year. One did launch, but the customer went with a phased-in approach instead of an all-out bang approach with all their stores across the U.S.

Speaker #2: So, the initial indication is going very well, so we have no hesitation there. But, correspondingly, as it's a phased event—a phased launch—that'll push a little bit of the growth more into Q4 versus Q3 from that perspective.

Will Kalutycz: Initial indications going very well. We have no hesitation there. Corresponding as it's a phased event, a phased launch, that'll push a little bit of the growth more in Q4 versus Q3 from that perspective. We also have a second large launch that we thought was going to occur late in Q2, early Q3. It is now scheduled for October. It's with a large customer in the US. It's a 1,500-store launch. We're pretty excited by that. Like I say, that's going to happen in the Q4. Those factors will push a little bit of the growth into Q4 versus Q3. We're still expecting Q3 to be a solid growth quarter.

Will Kalutycz: Initial indications going very well. We have no hesitation there. Corresponding as it's a phased event, a phased launch, that'll push a little bit of the growth more in Q4 versus Q3 from that perspective. We also have a second large launch that we thought was going to occur late in Q2, early Q3. It is now scheduled for October. It's with a large customer in the US. It's a 1,500-store launch. We're pretty excited by that. Like I say, that's going to happen in the Q4. Those factors will push a little bit of the growth into Q4 versus Q3. We're still expecting Q3 to be a solid growth quarter.

Speaker #2: And then we also have a second large launch that we thought was going to occur late in Q2 or early Q3. It is now scheduled for October.

Speaker #2: And it's with a large customer in the U.S. It's a 1,500-store launch, so we're pretty excited about that. And like I say, that's going to happen in Q4.

Speaker #2: So those factors will push a little bit of the growth into Q4 versus Q3. But we're still expecting Q3 to be a solid growth quarter.

Speaker #3: Okay, thank you for the call. And then, maybe last question. I noticed that Stampede Culinary had a pretty solid quarter in relation to their Q1 sales.

Martin Landry: Okay. Thank you for the color. Maybe last question, I noticed that Stampede Culinary had a pretty solid quarter in relation to their Q1 sales. Their Q2 sales were pretty strong. Is this just a seasonality or did they win new contracts?

Martin Landry: Okay. Thank you for the color. Maybe last question, I noticed that Stampede Culinary had a pretty solid quarter in relation to their Q1 sales. Their Q2 sales were pretty strong. Is this just a seasonality or did they win new contracts?

Speaker #3: Their Q2 sales were pretty strong. Is this just seasonality, or did they win new contracts?

Speaker #2: Well, they're growing very nicely. They're winning new contracts—that's part of it. But certainly, seasonality is an element as well. Overall, Stampede is on plan today.

Will Kalutycz: Well, they're growing very nicely. They're winning new contracts. That's part of it. Certainly seasonality is an element as well. Overall, Stampede is on plan today with their sales.

Will Kalutycz: Well, they're growing very nicely. They're winning new contracts. That's part of it. Certainly seasonality is an element as well. Overall, Stampede is on plan today with their sales.

Speaker #2: With their sales.

Speaker #3: Okay. Thank you to all the callers and best of luck.

Martin Landry: Okay. Thank you for all the color and best of luck.

Martin Landry: Okay. Thank you for all the color and best of luck.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Martin.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Martin.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Martin.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of George Dwimett from Ventum Financial. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of George Doumet from Ventum Financial. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of George Doumet from Ventum Financial. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hi, George and Will. Just a quick follow-up. Looks like you guys dropped—hey, you dropped the adjusted EBITDA guide by $35 million at the midpoint.

George Doumet: Yeah. Hi, George. Just a quick follow-up.

George Doumet: Yeah. Hi, George. Just a quick follow-up.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, George.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, George.

George Doumet: Looks like you guys dropped the adjusted EBITDA guide by CAD 35 million at the midpoint. Millian, I just wanted to know how much of that is purely timing related that you did call off some stuff earlier. How much of that CAD 35 million is purely timing related? How much of that would be, for example, the beef processing capacity closure and maybe some weakness in the consumer? If you could just break that down for us, that'd be helpful.

George Doumet: Looks like you guys dropped the adjusted EBITDA guide by CAD 35 million at the midpoint. Millian, I just wanted to know how much of that is purely timing related that you did call off some stuff earlier. How much of that CAD 35 million is purely timing related? How much of that would be, for example, the beef processing capacity closure and maybe some weakness in the consumer? If you could just break that down for us, that'd be helpful.

Speaker #3: I just wanted to clarify, Million, I just wanted to know how much of that was purely timing-related, that you did call off some stuff earlier.

Speaker #3: So, how much of that $35 million is purely timing-related? How much of that would be, for example, the beef processing capacity closure, and maybe some weakness in the consumer?

Speaker #3: If you could just break that down for us, it would be helpful.

Speaker #2: George, it is 100% timing related. If you look at the midpoint of the drop in our revenue guidance, it was about $200 million. Our EBITDA drop was $30 million, as you mentioned.

Will Kalutycz: George, it is 100% timing related. If you look at the midpoint of the drop in our revenue guidance was about CAD 200 million. Our EBITDA drop was at CAD 30 million, as you mentioned. That's a contribution margin of 15%, which is low. It's low relative to the sales because half of our sales are, as I mentioned earlier, the delayed initiatives in QSR and retail in the US. Good margin business. The other half was related to the shutdown of a facility in Ontario. We're exiting a bunch of products that had very low, if any, contribution margin. Then food service weakness in Canada, which again, is a lower contribution margin business. When you take that mix, you come up with that 15% and it's all sales related. None of our assumptions have changed. We haven't changed any of our assumptions on the commodity markets.

Will Kalutycz: George, it is 100% timing related. If you look at the midpoint of the drop in our revenue guidance was about CAD 200 million. Our EBITDA drop was at CAD 30 million, as you mentioned. That's a contribution margin of 15%, which is low. It's low relative to the sales because half of our sales are, as I mentioned earlier, the delayed initiatives in QSR and retail in the US. Good margin business. The other half was related to the shutdown of a facility in Ontario. We're exiting a bunch of products that had very low, if any, contribution margin. Then food service weakness in Canada, which again, is a lower contribution margin business. When you take that mix, you come up with that 15% and it's all sales related. None of our assumptions have changed. We haven't changed any of our assumptions on the commodity markets.

Speaker #2: So that's a contribution margin of 15%, which is low. And it's low relative to sales because, as I mentioned earlier, half of our sales are—it's due to the delayed initiatives in QSR and retail in the U.S.

Speaker #2: Good margin business. The other half was related to the shutdown of a facility in Ontario. We're exiting a bunch of products that had very low, if any, contribution margin.

Speaker #2: And then food service weakness in Canada, which again is a lower contribution margin business. So, when you take that mix, you come up with that 15%, and it's all sales related.

Speaker #2: None of our assumptions have changed. We haven't changed any of our assumptions on the commodity markets. Operations are going well. Our startup costs are on plan.

Will Kalutycz: Operations are going well. Our startup costs are on plan. In terms of commodity, while we haven't reflected it in our outlook, we did mention it in our MD&A that we are starting to see possible cracks in the beef market. There could be some upside in our outlook from that if that continues to develop like early signs seem to be indicating.

Will Kalutycz: Operations are going well. Our startup costs are on plan. In terms of commodity, while we haven't reflected it in our outlook, we did mention it in our MD&A that we are starting to see possible cracks in the beef market. There could be some upside in our outlook from that if that continues to develop like early signs seem to be indicating.

Speaker #2: The in terms of and in terms of commodity, while we haven't reflected it in our outlook, we did mention it in our MD&A that we are starting to see possible cracks in the beef market.

Speaker #2: So there could be some upside in our outlook from that, if that continues to develop like early signs seem to be indicating.

Speaker #3: I would add to that, George, that the general commodity input environment has been very inflationary in the last five or six years, and we're seeing evidence that prices are either flattening or declining.

George Paleologou: I would add to that, George, that the general commodity input environment has been very inflationary in the last five or six years, and we're seeing evidence that prices are either flattening or declining. That's not incorporated into our projections. That applies not to just beef, but some of the other species as well.

George Paleologou: I would add to that, George, that the general commodity input environment has been very inflationary in the last five or six years, and we're seeing evidence that prices are either flattening or declining. That's not incorporated into our projections. That applies not to just beef, but some of the other species as well.

Speaker #3: So that's not incorporated into our projections. So that applies not just to beef, but to some of the other species as well. That's helpful. Thank you.

George Doumet: That's helpful. Thank you. Just a follow-up from me on this weakness in Canada in the food service segment. Does that at all impact the monetization process that's going on right now from perhaps a values perspective and from a timing perspective?

George Doumet: That's helpful. Thank you. Just a follow-up from me on this weakness in Canada in the food service segment. Does that at all impact the monetization process that's going on right now from perhaps a values perspective and from a timing perspective?

Speaker #3: And just a follow-up from me on this weakness in Canada in the food service segment. Does that at all impact the monetization process that's going on right now, from perhaps a values perspective or from a timing perspective?

Speaker #2: No, you know what? When we say weakness, the reality is our distribution business generated about 5% to 6% organic growth. It was mostly price-driven, though.

Will Kalutycz: No. You know what, we say weakness, the reality is our distribution business generated about 5% to 6% organic growth. It was mostly price driven, though. Their volumes are relatively flat. 5% to 6% in that industry, if you look at Sysco's international results, we're in line with them. The business is doing well. It's just customers aren't spending as much in that channel and volumes are down a little bit. It continues to be profitable and the long-term outlook and perspective of that business has not changed one iota.

Will Kalutycz: No. You know what, we say weakness, the reality is our distribution business generated about 5% to 6% organic growth. It was mostly price driven, though. Their volumes are relatively flat. 5% to 6% in that industry, if you look at Sysco's international results, we're in line with them. The business is doing well. It's just customers aren't spending as much in that channel and volumes are down a little bit. It continues to be profitable and the long-term outlook and perspective of that business has not changed one iota.

Speaker #2: Their volumes are relatively flat—five to six percent. In that industry, if you look at Cisco's international results, we're in line with them. The business is doing well.

Speaker #2: It's just that customers aren't spending as much in that channel, and volumes are down a little bit. But it continues to be profitable, and the long-term outlook and perspective of that business has not changed one iota.

Speaker #3: Having said that, George, we also benefit in other channels when the food service channel is flat or not as strong, right? Because people still have to eat.

George Paleologou: Having said that, George, we also benefit in other channels when the food service channel is flat or is not as strong, right? Because people still have to eat.

George Paleologou: Having said that, George, we also benefit in other channels when the food service channel is flat or is not as strong, right? Because people still have to eat.

Speaker #3: Okay, thanks for your answers, guys.

George Doumet: Okay. Thanks for your answer, guys.

George Doumet: Okay. Thanks for your answer, guys.

Will Kalutycz: Again, George, I just want to emphasize your question on the valuation of that business.

Speaker #2: And again, George, I just want to emphasize your question on the valuation of that business.

Will Kalutycz: Again, George, I just want to emphasize your question on the valuation of that business.

Speaker #3: Right.

George Doumet: Right.

George Doumet: Right.

Will Kalutycz: We did revise our guidance, but nothing fundamental has changed in our business. We're talking certain initiatives moved out a quarter, maybe a little softness in food service, the fundamentals have just not changed at all.

Will Kalutycz: We did revise our guidance, but nothing fundamental has changed in our business. We're talking certain initiatives moved out a quarter, maybe a little softness in food service, the fundamentals have just not changed at all.

Speaker #2: We did revise our guidance, but nothing fundamental has changed in our business. We're talking about certain initiatives moving out a quarter, maybe a little softness in food service.

Speaker #2: But the fundamentals have just not changed at all.

George Paleologou: The question here, guys, is that we have capacity and we have demand for that capacity. Ultimately, as we've said before, we're dealing with very large customers in the US and very large launches. Ultimately, when they make a decision to defer a launch, we still have to keep that capacity for them. We have no issue filling some or all of that capacity with other customers. Ultimately, obviously, we want to execute for these large customers. Right? That's kind of where we're at today.

George Paleologou: The question here, guys, is that we have capacity and we have demand for that capacity. Ultimately, as we've said before, we're dealing with very large customers in the US and very large launches. Ultimately, when they make a decision to defer a launch, we still have to keep that capacity for them. We have no issue filling some or all of that capacity with other customers. Ultimately, obviously, we want to execute for these large customers. Right? That's kind of where we're at today.

Speaker #3: The question here, guys, is that we have capacity and we have demand for that capacity. Ultimately, as we've said before, we're dealing with very large customers in the U.S.

Speaker #3: ...and very, very large launches. So, ultimately, when they make a decision to defer a launch, we still have to keep that capacity for them.

Speaker #3: We have no issue filling some or all of that capacity without the customers. But ultimately, obviously, we want to execute for these large customers, right?

Speaker #3: So that's kind of where we're at today. Thank you.

George Doumet: Thank you.

George Doumet: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thanks, George.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, George.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, George.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Luke Hanna from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Luke Hannan from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Luke Hannan from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Thanks.

George Paleologou: Hey, Luke.

George Paleologou: Hey, Luke.

Luke Hannan: Thanks. Good morning, guys. Hey, guys. Look, I want to follow up on that last point that you made there. Clearly the demand is still there and you want to keep capacity available for that, but I imagine your customers wouldn't be making these decisions. Maybe the question is, why exactly, what's your view on what's driving them to shift out the timing for some of these LTOs? Obviously there's big implications for you guys and trying to build your business going forward. I'm just curious, maybe what's the rationale they would have given you from choosing to launch at a certain time versus another?

Luke Hannan: Thanks. Good morning, guys. Hey, guys. Look, I want to follow up on that last point that you made there. Clearly the demand is still there and you want to keep capacity available for that, but I imagine your customers wouldn't be making these decisions. Maybe the question is, why exactly, what's your view on what's driving them to shift out the timing for some of these LTOs? Obviously there's big implications for you guys and trying to build your business going forward. I'm just curious, maybe what's the rationale they would have given you from choosing to launch at a certain time versus another?

Speaker #4: Good morning, guys. Hey, guys. Look, I wanted to follow up on that last point that you made there. So, clearly the demand is still there, and you want to keep capacity available for that.

Speaker #4: But I imagine your customers wouldn't be making these decisions—or maybe the question is, why exactly? What's your view on what's driving them to shift out the timing for some of these LTOs?

Speaker #4: Because, obviously, there are big implications for you guys in trying to build your business going forward. So I'm just curious—what's the rationale they would have given you for choosing to launch at a certain time versus another?

Speaker #2: Well, you have to break between the two retail initiatives we're talking about. And that's just a question of scheduling and timing. There's no specific thing you can point at.

Will Kalutycz: Well, you have to break the initiatives between the two retail initiatives we're talking about. That's just a question of scheduling, timing. There's no kind of specific thing you can point at. We had to make some assumptions in the original numbers, they turned out to be a little bit off in terms of the timing. That's all that is. On the LTO side, it's interesting. It's with a major QSR customer, they're going through some internal changes. They're addressing some other issues in their business, this just got kind of pushed down the list for the time being.

Will Kalutycz: Well, you have to break the initiatives between the two retail initiatives we're talking about. That's just a question of scheduling, timing. There's no kind of specific thing you can point at. We had to make some assumptions in the original numbers, they turned out to be a little bit off in terms of the timing. That's all that is. On the LTO side, it's interesting. It's with a major QSR customer, they're going through some internal changes. They're addressing some other issues in their business, this just got kind of pushed down the list for the time being.

Speaker #2: It's just that we had to make some assumptions in the original numbers, and they turned out to be a little bit off in terms of the timing.

Speaker #2: That's all that is. On the LTO side, it's interesting. It's with a major QSR customer and they're going through some internal changes. They're addressing some other issues in their business.

Speaker #2: And this just got kind of pushed down the list for the time being.

Speaker #3: Hey, you know, again, I think we mentioned it before, but we had a similar situation with a very large club customer last year with the launch of a great quality, very successful stick product with them.

George Paleologou: Again, I think Will mentioned it before, we had a similar situation with a very large club customer last year with the launch of a great quality, very successful stick product with them. I think we've talked about that in the past. Ultimately that launch was delayed for about a year, again, for their own reasons. It was a very significant launch, we kept that capacity available for them, we executed extremely well. Right? These things happen, it is the nature of the size of the customers and the size of the opportunities.

George Paleologou: Again, I think Will mentioned it before, we had a similar situation with a very large club customer last year with the launch of a great quality, very successful stick product with them. I think we've talked about that in the past. Ultimately that launch was delayed for about a year, again, for their own reasons. It was a very significant launch, we kept that capacity available for them, we executed extremely well. Right? These things happen, it is the nature of the size of the customers and the size of the opportunities.

Speaker #3: I think we've talked about that in the past. And ultimately, that launch was delayed for about a year—again, for their own reasons. But it was a very significant launch.

Speaker #3: And we kept that capacity available for them, and we executed extremely well, right? So these things happen, and it's the nature of the size of the customers and the size of the opportunities.

Speaker #4: Got it, thanks for that. And then, for my follow-up here—and then I'll pass the line—George, in your prepared remarks this morning, you touched on the fact that the pipeline, the sales pipeline, is as robust as it’s ever been.

Luke Hannan: Got it. Thanks for that. For my follow-up here, I'll pass the line. George, in your prepared remarks this morning, you had touched on the fact that the pipeline, the sales pipeline is robust as it's ever been in the history of the company. Can you frame up for us how much of that is demand from existing customers that you already work with, or from new customers? Is that demand for menu products that are expected to stay there over time? Is it weighted more towards LTOs? Can you just frame up for us what that pipeline looks like?

Luke Hannan: Got it. Thanks for that. For my follow-up here, I'll pass the line. George, in your prepared remarks this morning, you had touched on the fact that the pipeline, the sales pipeline is robust as it's ever been in the history of the company. Can you frame up for us how much of that is demand from existing customers that you already work with, or from new customers? Is that demand for menu products that are expected to stay there over time? Is it weighted more towards LTOs? Can you just frame up for us what that pipeline looks like?

Speaker #4: In the history of the company, can you frame up for us how much of that is demand from existing customers—customers that you already work with—or from new customers?

Speaker #4: Is that demand for menu products that are expected to stay there over time? Is it weighted more towards LTOs? Can you just frame up for us what that pipeline looks like?

Speaker #3: Yeah, so look, we've made a lot of comments in the past. We've bought a lot of capacity, we've built a lot of capacity, and we've always been confident that we would fill it.

George Paleologou: Yeah. Luke, we've made a lot of comments in the past. We've bought a lot of capacity, we've built a lot of capacity, we've always been confident that we would fill it, we have been filling it as you could see from our numbers. Really, why are we so confident, right? Again, we do follow the CPG space, a lot of the companies are facing volume declines, most of them are, we're growing. Why is that, why are we so confident? Effectively what we've done is we've done and executed a lot of great innovation. We've launched a bunch of products with customers in the US. A lot of these customers are growing. They're doing well. Of course, because those products are doing well, other potential customers join us and call us. Sorry, I have to answer this.

George Paleologou: Yeah. Luke, we've made a lot of comments in the past. We've bought a lot of capacity, we've built a lot of capacity, we've always been confident that we would fill it, we have been filling it as you could see from our numbers. Really, why are we so confident, right? Again, we do follow the CPG space, a lot of the companies are facing volume declines, most of them are, we're growing. Why is that, why are we so confident? Effectively what we've done is we've done and executed a lot of great innovation. We've launched a bunch of products with customers in the US. A lot of these customers are growing. They're doing well. Of course, because those products are doing well, other potential customers join us and call us. Sorry, I have to answer this.

Speaker #3: And we have been filling it, as you could see from our numbers. So really, why are we so confident, right? Again, we do follow the CPG space, and a lot of the companies are facing volume declines.

Speaker #3: And most of them are. And we're growing. So why is that? And why are we so confident? Effectively, what we've done is we've executed a lot of great innovation.

Speaker #3: We've launched a bunch of products with customers in the U.S. A lot of these customers are growing—they're doing well. And then, of course, because those products are doing well, other potential customers join us.

Speaker #3: And they call us—sorry, I had to answer, they contact us—and they say, could we list your products? Right? So as we've added capacity, we've rolled out these products to more customers in the retail space, in the club space.

George Paleologou: They contact us and they say, "Could we list your products?" Right. As we've added capacity, we've rolled out these products to more customers in the retail space, in the club space, and in other channels. Right. That's really how we've done it. Right. We prove out the demand with one customer. It does really well. It gets noticed, then we have opportunities to sell products to other customers. If you visit the US today, we've got products in all states, and we continue to add SKUs with all the major retailers.

George Paleologou: They contact us and they say, "Could we list your products?" Right. As we've added capacity, we've rolled out these products to more customers in the retail space, in the club space, and in other channels. Right. That's really how we've done it. Right. We prove out the demand with one customer. It does really well. It gets noticed, then we have opportunities to sell products to other customers. If you visit the US today, we've got products in all states, and we continue to add SKUs with all the major retailers.

Speaker #3: And in other channels, right? So, that's really how we've done it, right? We've proved out the demand—with one customer, it does really well.

Speaker #3: It gets noticed. And then we have opportunities to sell products to other customers. If you visit the U.S. today, we've got products in all states.

Speaker #3: And we continue to ask you to work with all the major retailers.

Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you very much. I'll pass the line.

Luke Hannan: Got it. Thank you very much. I'll pass the line.

Luke Hannan: Got it. Thank you very much. I'll pass the line.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question-

Operator: Thank you. Your next question-

Speaker #2: Thanks, guys.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from the line of Ty Collin from CIBC. Please go ahead.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks

Will Kalutycz: Thanks

Operator: comes from the line of Ty Collin from CIBC. Please go ahead.

Operator: comes from the line of Ty Collin from CIBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, George and Will, thanks for taking my questions. So just to start, maybe a question around margins. Gross margin stepped down a little more than expected in Q2.

Ty Collin: Hey, George and Will. Thanks for taking my questions.

Ty Collin: Hey, George and Will. Thanks for taking my questions.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, Ty.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, Ty.

Ty Collin: Hey. Just to start, maybe a question around margin. Gross margin stepped down a little more than expected in Q2. SG&A margin was also a little bit lower. Is that mostly due to just mixing in higher Stampede sales or were there any other margin factors that kind of accelerated or decelerated sequentially in the quarter that you'd want to call out?

Ty Collin: Hey. Just to start, maybe a question around margin. Gross margin stepped down a little more than expected in Q2. SG&A margin was also a little bit lower. Is that mostly due to just mixing in higher Stampede sales or were there any other margin factors that kind of accelerated or decelerated sequentially in the quarter that you'd want to call out?

Speaker #5: SG&A margin was also a little bit lower. Is that mostly due to just mixing in higher Stampede sales, or were there any other margin factors that kind of accelerated or decelerated sequentially in the quarter that you'd want to call out?

Speaker #2: No, it was 100% Stampede. And I think in the MD&A, we give a normalized gross margin number. You can see Stampede is quite a bit lower than our average in our specialty food segment.

Will Kalutycz: No, it was 100% Stampede. I think in the MD&A, we give a normalized gross margin number. You can see, Stampede is quite a bit lower than our average in our specialty food segment. It was 100% due to that.

Will Kalutycz: No, it was 100% Stampede. I think in the MD&A, we give a normalized gross margin number. You can see, Stampede is quite a bit lower than our average in our specialty food segment. It was 100% due to that.

Speaker #2: So it was 100% due to that.

Speaker #5: Okay, great. And then, just back to the comments you made on the commodity picture starting to get a little bit more favorable, and focusing on beef in particular.

Ty Collin: Okay, great. Just back to the comments you made on the commodity picture starting to get a little bit more favorable and focusing on beef in particular, when would you start to see the benefits of lower beef prices or lower commodity prices starting to hit the income statement? Do you think that you would need to give any of that back to customers one way or another, given the focus on affordability?

Ty Collin: Okay, great. Just back to the comments you made on the commodity picture starting to get a little bit more favorable and focusing on beef in particular, when would you start to see the benefits of lower beef prices or lower commodity prices starting to hit the income statement? Do you think that you would need to give any of that back to customers one way or another, given the focus on affordability?

Speaker #5: When would you start to see the benefits of lower beef prices or lower commodity prices starting to hit the income statement? And do you think that you would need to give any of that back to customers one way or another, given the focus on affordability?

Speaker #2: Yeah, no. In terms of the timing—yeah, if we started seeing that happen significantly, it's probably the later part of Q3 at the earliest, just because of inventories and hedging programs and those sorts of things.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah, no, in terms of the timing, if we started seeing that happen significantly, it's probably later part of Q3 at the earliest, just because of inventories and hedging programs and those sorts of things. In terms of giving it back to customers, it depends on how far it falls. At some point, we are always very transparent with our customers, and similar with when prices are going up, that transparency helps us put through price increases, and as they come down, we will pass those on. Similar to the delays on the way up, there'll be delays on the way down. We will capture some extra margin over above normal margin levels for a short period. Ultimately, in the long term, we would pass it on.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah, no, in terms of the timing, if we started seeing that happen significantly, it's probably later part of Q3 at the earliest, just because of inventories and hedging programs and those sorts of things. In terms of giving it back to customers, it depends on how far it falls. At some point, we are always very transparent with our customers, and similar with when prices are going up, that transparency helps us put through price increases, and as they come down, we will pass those on. Similar to the delays on the way up, there'll be delays on the way down. We will capture some extra margin over above normal margin levels for a short period. Ultimately, in the long term, we would pass it on.

Speaker #2: In terms of giving it back to customers, it depends on how far it falls. At some point, we're always very transparent with our customers, and it's similar when prices are going up.

Speaker #2: It's that transparency helps us put through price increases, and as they come down, we'll pass those on. But similar to the delays on the way up, there will be delays on the way down.

Speaker #2: So, we will capture some extra margin over and above normal margin levels for a short period. But ultimately, in the long term, we would pass it on.

Speaker #3: But also, Ty, if the retail price points come down, we will benefit from more volume. Right?

George Paleologou: Also, Ty, if the retail price points come down, we will benefit from more volume. Right?

George Paleologou: Also, Ty, if the retail price points come down, we will benefit from more volume. Right?

Speaker #5: Right. Okay, got it. Yeah, thanks for that color, and all the best.

Ty Collin: Right. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Thanks for that color. All the best.

Ty Collin: Right. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Thanks for that color. All the best.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Ty.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Ty.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Ty.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

George Paleologou: Thank you.

George Paleologou: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Chris Lee from DJ Den Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Chris Li from Desjardins Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Chris Li from Desjardins Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hi, good morning, George and Will. Hope you're both doing well.

Chris Li: Good morning, George and Will. Hope you're both doing well.

Chris Li: Good morning, George and Will. Hope you're both doing well.

Speaker #2: Good morning, Chris.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning.

Speaker #6: Good morning. I wanted to just maybe pivot to the free cash flow the positive free cash flow that you guys generated in Q2. I think in your prepared remarks, Will, you mentioned that you expect the trend to accelerate in the back half.

George Paleologou: Morning, Chris.

George Paleologou: Morning, Chris.

Chris Li: Morning. I wanted to just maybe pivot to the free cash flow, the positive free cash flow that you guys generated in Q2. I think in your prepared remarks, Will, you mentioned that you expect the trend to accelerate in the back half. I want just to confirm that is the case, and what are some of the key drivers? Thank you.

Chris Li: Morning. I wanted to just maybe pivot to the free cash flow, the positive free cash flow that you guys generated in Q2. I think in your prepared remarks, Will, you mentioned that you expect the trend to accelerate in the back half. I want just to confirm that is the case, and what are some of the key drivers? Thank you.

Speaker #6: I just want to confirm that that is the case. And what are some of the key drivers? Thank you.

Speaker #2: Yeah, absolutely. So, clearly, working capital was a major drag in Q1. That was somewhat neutral in Q2, and it should become more positive in Q3.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Absolutely. Clearly working capital was a major drag in Q1. That was somewhat neutral in Q2. It should become more positive in Q3, so that will be a driver. The continued growth in our EBITDA will be a driver. The tailing down of our CapEx will be a driver, and the tailing down of our restructuring will be a driver. In short form, there's a lot of factors contributing to that, Chris, as we come to the end of this major CapEx cycle we've been in. We're just at the tail end of that, and each quarter that goes by, you're going to see the positive results of that flowing through. Certainly, EBITDA will be the big part of that.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Absolutely. Clearly working capital was a major drag in Q1. That was somewhat neutral in Q2. It should become more positive in Q3, so that will be a driver. The continued growth in our EBITDA will be a driver. The tailing down of our CapEx will be a driver, and the tailing down of our restructuring will be a driver. In short form, there's a lot of factors contributing to that, Chris, as we come to the end of this major CapEx cycle we've been in. We're just at the tail end of that, and each quarter that goes by, you're going to see the positive results of that flowing through. Certainly, EBITDA will be the big part of that.

Speaker #2: So, that will be a driver. The continued growth in our EBITDA will be a driver. The tailing down of our capex will be a driver.

Speaker #2: And the tailing down of our structuring will be a driver. In short form, there's a lot of factors contributing to that, Chris, as we come to the end of this major CapEx cycle we've been in.

Speaker #2: And we're just at the tail end of that. And each quarter that goes by, you're going to see the positive results of that flowing through.

Speaker #2: But certainly, EBITDA will be a big part of that.

Speaker #6: Okay, that's helpful. Maybe one more for you, Will. Just on the Specialty Food EBITDA margin—it improved by around 40 basis points in the first half of the year.

Chris Li: Okay. That's helpful. Maybe one more for you, Will. Just on the specialty food EBITDA margin, it improved by around 40 basis points in H1 of the year. Do you expect that rate of improvement to continue in H2?

Chris Li: Okay. That's helpful. Maybe one more for you, Will. Just on the specialty food EBITDA margin, it improved by around 40 basis points in H1 of the year. Do you expect that rate of improvement to continue in H2?

Speaker #6: Do you expect that rate of improvement to continue in the second half?

Will Kalutycz: It should show some continuous improvement, driven by the, we're starting to lap all the overhead increases with our different facilities and as we continue to grow. Yeah, you should see some continued improvement. In terms of the trend line and the numbers, yeah, it's probably going to be similar to Q1, Q2, 30, 40 basis points.

Will Kalutycz: It should show some continuous improvement, driven by the, we're starting to lap all the overhead increases with our different facilities and as we continue to grow. Yeah, you should see some continued improvement. In terms of the trend line and the numbers, yeah, it's probably going to be similar to Q1, Q2, 30, 40 basis points.

Speaker #2: It should show some continuous improvement, driven by the fact that we're starting to lap all the overhead increases with our different facilities. And, as we continue to grow, you should see some continued improvement.

Speaker #2: In terms of the trend line and the numbers, yeah, it's probably going to be similar to Q1 and Q2—30 to 40 basis points.

Speaker #6: Okay, that's helpful. And then, George, I just want to ask you about what you're seeing in terms of the M&A environment. I noticed you guys removed the slide you usually have on the acquisition opportunities.

Chris Li: Okay, that's helpful. Then George, I just want to ask you about just what you're seeing in terms of the M&A environment. I noticed you guys removed the slide you usually have on acquisition opportunities. I'm not sure if that's intentional. Just, yeah, wanted to get your sense of how it is in the environment right now for acquisitions. Thank you.

Chris Li: Okay, that's helpful. Then George, I just want to ask you about just what you're seeing in terms of the M&A environment. I noticed you guys removed the slide you usually have on acquisition opportunities. I'm not sure if that's intentional. Just, yeah, wanted to get your sense of how it is in the environment right now for acquisitions. Thank you.

Speaker #6: I'm not sure if that's how this environment is right now for acquisitions. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Yeah, Chris, again, we're always happy to disclose what's going on. We're always in a number of discussions, as you know. We are sort of the acquirer of choice for a lot of companies—a lot of companies come to us.

George Paleologou: Yeah, Chris. Again, we're always happy to disclose what's going on. We're always in a number of discussions as you know. We are sort of the acquirer of choice for a lot of companies. A lot of companies come to us, and we're in a lot of discussions. As we've gotten bigger and we're getting more attention, when we disclose that we're in an advanced stage of discussions with different companies, there's a lot of speculation going on, and it impacts our NDA and confidentiality agreement. That's one of the reasons why we pulled it. We'll decide whether we will reestablish it down the road, but that's the main reason. Ultimately, we are acquisitive. We're always looking to partner with good companies. Again, that's the reason we pulled it.

George Paleologou: Yeah, Chris. Again, we're always happy to disclose what's going on. We're always in a number of discussions as you know. We are sort of the acquirer of choice for a lot of companies. A lot of companies come to us, and we're in a lot of discussions. As we've gotten bigger and we're getting more attention, when we disclose that we're in an advanced stage of discussions with different companies, there's a lot of speculation going on, and it impacts our NDA and confidentiality agreement. That's one of the reasons why we pulled it. We'll decide whether we will reestablish it down the road, but that's the main reason. Ultimately, we are acquisitive. We're always looking to partner with good companies. Again, that's the reason we pulled it.

Speaker #3: And we're in a lot of discussions. As we've gotten bigger and are getting more attention, when we disclose that we're in an advanced stage of discussions with different companies, there's a lot of speculation going on.

Speaker #3: And it impacts our NDA and confidentiality agreements. So that's one of the reasons why we pulled it. We'll decide whether we will reestablish it down the road.

Speaker #3: But that's the main reason. Ultimately, we are acquisitive. We're always looking to partner with good companies. And again, that's the reason we pulled it.

Speaker #6: Okay, great. Thank you, and all the best.

Chris Li: Okay, great. Thank you, and all the best.

Chris Li: Okay, great. Thank you, and all the best.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Chris.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Chris.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Chris.

George Paleologou: Thanks, Chris.

George Paleologou: Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Stephen McLeod from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Stephen MacLeod from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Stephen MacLeod from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Thank you. Good morning, guys. I just want—good morning. Morning, Will. I just wanted to follow up on a couple of things. Just given the revised top line guidance, I was wondering if you could give some color around your expected organic volume growth rate for the back half of the year, and sort of how that would shape out between Q3 and Q4.

Stephen MacLeod: Thank you. Good morning, guys.

Stephen MacLeod: Thank you. Good morning, guys.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning, Steve.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning, Steve.

Stephen MacLeod: Morning. Morning, Will. Just wanted to follow up on a couple things. Just given the revised top-line guidance, I was wondering if you could give some color around your expected organic volume growth rate for the back half of the year and sort of how that would shape out between Q3 and Q4.

Stephen MacLeod: Morning. Morning, Will. Just wanted to follow up on a couple things. Just given the revised top-line guidance, I was wondering if you could give some color around your expected organic volume growth rate for the back half of the year and sort of how that would shape out between Q3 and Q4.

Speaker #2: Yeah, so in terms of breaking it down between the two segments, PFD—very conservative, we're probably going to be around 1–2% growth most likely, especially in foods.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. In terms of breaking it down between the two segments, PFD, very conservative, more probably similar. We're going to be around 1, 2% growth most likely. specialty foods, I would say it's going to be similar to Q2 carried through for the balance of the year.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. In terms of breaking it down between the two segments, PFD, very conservative, more probably similar. We're going to be around 1, 2% growth most likely. specialty foods, I would say it's going to be similar to Q2 carried through for the balance of the year.

Speaker #2: I would say it's going to be similar to Q2, carried through for the balance of the year, with a little stronger in Q4 and a little weaker in Q3, as we discussed earlier.

Stephen MacLeod: Okay.

Stephen MacLeod: Okay.

Will Kalutycz: With a little stronger in Q4 and a little weaker in Q3 as we discussed earlier.

Will Kalutycz: With a little stronger in Q4 and a little weaker in Q3 as we discussed earlier.

Speaker #7: Okay, perfect. Thank you. And then I just wanted to come back to the pipeline. You've talked a lot about it continuing to be very strong for new launches and LTOs and things like that.

Stephen MacLeod: Okay, perfect. Thank you. Then I just wanted to come back to the pipeline. You've talked a lot about it continuing to be very strong for new launches and LTOs and things like that. I guess, would there be a way to sort of frame how much of that is positioned or how much of that would represent your kind of CAD 2 billion sales pipeline that you've created through, or sales capacity you've created through your capital investment program?

Stephen MacLeod: Okay, perfect. Thank you. Then I just wanted to come back to the pipeline. You've talked a lot about it continuing to be very strong for new launches and LTOs and things like that. I guess, would there be a way to sort of frame how much of that is positioned or how much of that would represent your kind of CAD 2 billion sales pipeline that you've created through, or sales capacity you've created through your capital investment program?

Speaker #7: I guess, would there be a way to sort of frame how much of that is positioned, or how much of that would represent your kind of $2 billion sales pipeline that you’ve created through—or sales capacity you’ve created through your capital investment program?

Speaker #2: The LTOs is a percentage of that $2 billion? That's what you're asking, Steve?

Will Kalutycz: The LTOs is a percentage of that CAD 2 billion, that's what you're asking, Steve?

Will Kalutycz: The LTOs is a percentage of that CAD 2 billion, that's what you're asking, Steve?

Speaker #7: Yeah, I'm just trying to get a sense of whether that's the pipeline you've identified. Yeah.

Stephen MacLeod: Yeah, I'm just trying to get a sense of.

Stephen MacLeod: Yeah, I'm just trying to get a sense of.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah

Will Kalutycz: Yeah

Stephen MacLeod: the pipeline that you've identified. Yeah.

Stephen MacLeod: the pipeline that you've identified. Yeah.

Speaker #2: Yeah. It's probably—again, we've never actually done that calculation—but just thinking through the initiatives and the pipeline, it's probably a quarter of it, at best.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Again, we've never actually done that calculation, but just thinking through the initiatives and the pipeline, it's probably a quarter of it at best.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Again, we've never actually done that calculation, but just thinking through the initiatives and the pipeline, it's probably a quarter of it at best.

Speaker #7: So that would mean that the remaining 75% is other opportunities that are to come in the future.

Stephen MacLeod: That would mean that the remaining 75% is other opportunities that are to come in the future.

Stephen MacLeod: That would mean that the remaining 75% is other opportunities that are to come in the future.

Speaker #2: It is more focused on retail B2B or permanent listings in QSR.

Will Kalutycz: Is more focused on retail, B2B, or permanent listings in QSR.

Will Kalutycz: Is more focused on retail, B2B, or permanent listings in QSR.

Speaker #7: But okay.

Stephen MacLeod: Oh, I see. Okay.

Stephen MacLeod: Oh, I see. Okay.

George Paleologou: The CAD 2 billion pipeline, Stephen, effectively is sold out. We are in discussions with many customers about different innovation initiatives and launches and listings and all those things, right?

George Paleologou: The CAD 2 billion pipeline, Stephen, effectively is sold out. We are in discussions with many customers about different innovation initiatives and launches and listings and all those things, right?

Speaker #2: The $2 billion pipeline, Stephen, is effectively sold out. We are in discussions with many, many customers about different innovation initiatives, launches, listings, and all those things, right?

Stephen MacLeod: Yeah.

Stephen MacLeod: Yeah.

Speaker #2: We're not concerned that we will fill that capacity, right? It's a question of what mix, and obviously, maximizing the returns from that mix.

George Paleologou: We're not concerned that we will fill that capacity, right?

George Paleologou: We're not concerned that we will fill that capacity, right?

Stephen MacLeod: Yeah.

Stephen MacLeod: Yeah.

George Paleologou: It's a question of what mix and, obviously, maximizing the returns from that mix.

George Paleologou: It's a question of what mix and, obviously, maximizing the returns from that mix.

Speaker #7: Right. Okay. Okay, great. And then maybe just finally, I was just wondering if you could give some color on your CapEx expectations for 2026.

Stephen MacLeod: Right. Okay, great. Maybe just finally, I was just wondering if you could give some color on your CapEx expectations for 2026. I assume they're relatively unchanged, but just want to confirm.

Stephen MacLeod: Right. Okay, great. Maybe just finally, I was just wondering if you could give some color on your CapEx expectations for 2026. I assume they're relatively unchanged, but just want to confirm.

Speaker #7: I assume they're relatively unchanged. We just want to confirm.

Speaker #2: Yeah, no, we've talked about our three buckets in the past. The one bucket being our $1.1 billion capital investment cycle. We've got about $41 million left to spend on that cycle.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. No. We've talked about our three buckets in the past. The one bucket being our CAD 1.1 billion capital investment cycle. We've got about CAD 41 million left to spend on that cycle. Our general project CapEx, that's generally running around that CAD 70 to 80 million mark. We're on track to hit that. Our maintenance CapEx, CAD 70 to 75 million, and we're on track to hit that.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. No. We've talked about our three buckets in the past. The one bucket being our CAD 1.1 billion capital investment cycle. We've got about CAD 41 million left to spend on that cycle. Our general project CapEx, that's generally running around that CAD 70 to 80 million mark. We're on track to hit that. Our maintenance CapEx, CAD 70 to 75 million, and we're on track to hit that.

Speaker #2: Our general project CapEx is generally running around that $70 to $80 million mark, so we're on track to hit that. And then our maintenance CapEx is $70 to $75 million.

Speaker #2: And we're on track to hit that.

Speaker #7: Okay, that's great. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Stephen MacLeod: Okay, that's great. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Stephen MacLeod: Okay, that's great. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Steve.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Steve.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Steve.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Michael Glenn from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

George Paleologou: Thanks, Steve.

George Paleologou: Thanks, Steve.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes on the line of Michael Glen from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes on the line of Michael Glen from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Hey, maybe just to follow up on the gross margin conversation, and especially foods through the back half of the year, and how that falls to EBITDA.

Michael Glen: Hey. Maybe just to follow up on the gross margin conversation of specialty foods through the back half of the year and how that falls to EBITDA. It does look like you had a pretty good deleverage on the SG&A line this quarter. Would you expect SG&A, it was 9.1% of sales, would you expect it to continue at that type of level? It's a pretty low level relative to historical.

Michael Glen: Hey. Maybe just to follow up on the gross margin conversation of specialty foods through the back half of the year and how that falls to EBITDA. It does look like you had a pretty good deleverage on the SG&A line this quarter. Would you expect SG&A, it was 9.1% of sales, would you expect it to continue at that type of level? It's a pretty low level relative to historical.

Speaker #8: It does look like you had pretty good deleverage on the SG&A line this quarter. Would you expect SG&A—it was 9.1% of sales—

Speaker #8: Would you expect it to continue at that type of level? It's a pretty low level relative to historical.

Speaker #2: Yeah, I think you're not going to see as much in Q4, a favorable year-over-year, just because of at least where we're expecting our discretionary compensation accruals to be.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah, I think you're not going to see as much in Q4 a favorable year-over-year just because of at least where we're expecting our discretionary compensation accruals to be. You will continue to see deleveraging of our SG&A.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah, I think you're not going to see as much in Q4 a favorable year-over-year just because of at least where we're expecting our discretionary compensation accruals to be. You will continue to see deleveraging of our SG&A.

Speaker #2: But you will continue to see deleveraging of our SG&A.

Speaker #8: Okay. And do you think that, off of the gross margin you reported for specialty foods in Q2, we should see an increase in that margin in the back half? Or, I’m just trying to—will it be relatively stable at these kind of 19%-plus levels?

Michael Glen: Okay. Do you think that off of the gross margin you reported for specialty foods in Q2, we should see an increase in that margin in the back half? Or it will be relatively stable at these kind of 19% plus levels?

Michael Glen: Okay. Do you think that off of the gross margin you reported for specialty foods in Q2, we should see an increase in that margin in the back half? Or it will be relatively stable at these kind of 19% plus levels?

Speaker #2: Again, as I talked about earlier, that 30 to 40 basis points improvement in Specialty Foods—that’ll be a mix of gross margin and SG&A deleveraging.

Will Kalutycz: Again, as I talked about earlier, that 30 to 40 basis points improvement in specialty foods, that would be a mix of gross margin and SG&A deleveraging.

Will Kalutycz: Again, as I talked about earlier, that 30 to 40 basis points improvement in specialty foods, that would be a mix of gross margin and SG&A deleveraging.

Speaker #8: Okay. And just to come back to the LTO—I mean, a lot of these large restaurant companies, they're continually putting in LTOs. They have to constantly refresh their menus.

Michael Glen: Okay. Just to come back to the LTO. A lot of these large restaurant companies, they are continually putting in LTOs. They have to constantly refresh their menus. Do you have visibility? Are they going with a competitor product as a replacement? Do you have any visibility as to what they are running with in store right now with LTOs to replace the program that you are not progressing on?

Michael Glen: Okay. Just to come back to the LTO. A lot of these large restaurant companies, they are continually putting in LTOs. They have to constantly refresh their menus. Do you have visibility? Are they going with a competitor product as a replacement? Do you have any visibility as to what they are running with in store right now with LTOs to replace the program that you are not progressing on?

Speaker #8: Are they going—do you have visibility? Are they going with a competitor product as a replacement? Do you have any visibility as to what they're running with in-store right now with LTOs to replace the program that you're not progressing on?

Speaker #2: Yeah. Well, it's interesting. As I mentioned earlier, there's been sort of distraction with the key one that we've been talking about, and the timing around it.

Will Kalutycz: Well, it is interesting. As I mentioned earlier, they have been sort of distracted with the key one that we have been talking about and the timing around. They have been distracted with some other issues in the organization. They have been focused more on the beverage side. The food side, yeah, you are right, there is always LTOs, but they are just using in-store products, maybe adding bacon to an existing product or so. Not any real innovation. Their franchisees are starting to starve for that innovation. So that is what is giving us the confidence that these products that have gone through the product testing, have gone through the pricing, are approved through their system, that they will get launched in 2027 when they get back focused on this.

Will Kalutycz: Well, it is interesting. As I mentioned earlier, they have been sort of distracted with the key one that we have been talking about and the timing around. They have been distracted with some other issues in the organization. They have been focused more on the beverage side. The food side, yeah, you are right, there is always LTOs, but they are just using in-store products, maybe adding bacon to an existing product or so. Not any real innovation. Their franchisees are starting to starve for that innovation. So that is what is giving us the confidence that these products that have gone through the product testing, have gone through the pricing, are approved through their system, that they will get launched in 2027 when they get back focused on this.

Speaker #2: They've been distracted with some other issues in the organization. They've been focused more on the beverage side than the food side. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker #2: There's always LTOs, but they're just using in-store products—maybe adding bacon to an existing product or something. Not any real innovation, and their franchisees are starting to starve for that innovation.

Speaker #2: So that's what's giving us the confidence that these products, which have gone through the product testing and pricing processes and are approved through their system, will get launched in 2027 when they get back focused on this.

Speaker #8: And we're doing LTOs all the time, right? We're involved in all kinds of LTOs across the board with all kinds of QSR customers.

George Paleologou: We're doing LTOs all the time, right? We're involved in all kinds of LTOs across the board with all kinds of QSR customers.

George Paleologou: We're doing LTOs all the time, right? We're involved in all kinds of LTOs across the board with all kinds of QSR customers.

Speaker #8: Okay. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.

Michael Glen: Okay. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.

Michael Glen: Okay. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Michael.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Michael.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Michael.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Vishal Sridhar from National Bank. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Vishal Shreedhar from National Bank. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Vishal Shreedhar from National Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker #9: Hello, George and Will.

Vishal Shreedhar: Hello, George and Will.

Vishal Shreedhar: Hello, George and Will.

Speaker #2: Hey, Vishal.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, Vishal.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, Vishal.

Speaker #8: Hey, Vishal.

George Paleologou: Hey, Vishal.

George Paleologou: Hey, Vishal.

Speaker #9: I just want to get your thoughts on the adjusted EBITDA and the $23.8 million backed out, in part reflecting facility closures. Should we anticipate more of these types of costs related to facility closures in 2026, and do you have a sense of the magnitude or how they might flow through?

Vishal Shreedhar: I just wanted to get your thoughts on the adjusted EBITDA and the CAD 23.8 million backed out in part reflecting facility closures. Should we anticipate more of these types of costs related to facility closures in 2026? Do you have a magnitude of how they might flow through?

Vishal Shreedhar: I just wanted to get your thoughts on the adjusted EBITDA and the CAD 23.8 million backed out in part reflecting facility closures. Should we anticipate more of these types of costs related to facility closures in 2026? Do you have a magnitude of how they might flow through?

Speaker #2: Yeah, nothing material for the rest of this year, Vishal.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Nothing material for the rest of this year, Vishal.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Nothing material for the rest of this year, Vishal.

Speaker #9: Okay, thank you. And with respect to the plant closures that you indicated, are those part of the previously announced greater than $1 billion in asset monetizations?

Vishal Shreedhar: Okay. Thank you. With respect to the plant closures that you indicated, are those part of the previously announced greater than CAD 1 billion in asset monetizations? Are those plant closures reflected in your sales guidance?

Vishal Shreedhar: Okay. Thank you. With respect to the plant closures that you indicated, are those part of the previously announced greater than CAD 1 billion in asset monetizations? Are those plant closures reflected in your sales guidance?

Speaker #9: And are those plant closures reflected in your sales guidance?

Speaker #2: Yeah. So, in the sales guidance, there are really three elements, and I'll start with the last part of your question. There are three elements in there.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. In the sales guidance, I'll start with the last part of your question. There's three elements in there. There's the customer initiatives we've been talking around in QSR and retail. If you take that average CAD 200 million change, roughly half of it's due to that. The other half is due to the foodservice channel in Canada and the shutdown in this facility and exiting some of its sales, which they were in the beef segment. Beef inflation has really hurt their margins in recent years. It's an older facility. You put that all together and that's what made us come to the conclusion that we needed to exit that business. In terms of the first part of your question, no, none of that is included in the CAD 101 billion monetization number.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. In the sales guidance, I'll start with the last part of your question. There's three elements in there. There's the customer initiatives we've been talking around in QSR and retail. If you take that average CAD 200 million change, roughly half of it's due to that. The other half is due to the foodservice channel in Canada and the shutdown in this facility and exiting some of its sales, which they were in the beef segment. Beef inflation has really hurt their margins in recent years. It's an older facility. You put that all together and that's what made us come to the conclusion that we needed to exit that business. In terms of the first part of your question, no, none of that is included in the CAD 101 billion monetization number.

Speaker #2: There are the customer initiatives we've been talking about in QSR and retail. And if you take that average $200 million change, roughly half of it's due to that.

Speaker #2: The other half is due to the food service channel in Canada, and the shutdown in this facility and exiting some of its sales, which were in the beef segment. Beef inflation has really hurt their margins in recent years.

Speaker #2: It's an older facility. You put that all together, and that's what made us come to the conclusion that we needed to exit that business.

Speaker #2: In terms of the first part of your question, no, none of that is included in the $101 billion monetization number.

Speaker #9: Okay. So, the future plant closures that you may engage in—are those contemplated in the revised guidance number that you gave? And are they going to happen in 2026?

Vishal Shreedhar: Okay. The future plant closures that you may engage in, are those contemplated in the revised guidance number that you gave?

Vishal Shreedhar: Okay. The future plant closures that you may engage in, are those contemplated in the revised guidance number that you gave?

Will Kalutycz: Yeah.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah.

Vishal Shreedhar: Are they going to happen in 2026?

Vishal Shreedhar: Are they going to happen in 2026?

Speaker #2: We're not expecting any others to happen in 2026. So, in terms of the guidance number, nothing's reflected because nothing's happening.

Will Kalutycz: We're not expecting any others to happen in 2026. In terms of the guidance number, nothing's reflected because nothing's happening.

Will Kalutycz: We're not expecting any others to happen in 2026. In terms of the guidance number, nothing's reflected because nothing's happening.

Speaker #8: It will probably be '27, Vishal, for the rest, as the GTA facility gets commissioned, which will be early '27.

George Paleologou: Probably will be 2027, Vishal, for the rest. As the GTA facility gets commissioned, which will be early 2027.

George Paleologou: Probably will be 2027, Vishal, for the rest. As the GTA facility gets commissioned, which will be early 2027.

Speaker #9: Thank you for the color.

Vishal Shreedhar: Thank you for the color.

Vishal Shreedhar: Thank you for the color.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Vishal.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Vishal.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, Vishal.

Speaker #8: Thank you.

George Paleologou: Thank you.

George Paleologou: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of John Zamparo from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of John Zamparo from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of John Zamparo from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Speaker #10: Thank you. Good morning, George and Will. Hey, John. I have a couple of follow-ups and a couple of questions, please. I wanted to come back to the LTO topic from one of your large customers. I think the prior question was on sales capacity.

John Zamparo: Thank you. Good morning, George and Will.

John Zamparo: Thank you. Good morning, George and Will.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, John.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, John.

George Paleologou: Hey, John.

George Paleologou: Hey, John.

John Zamparo: A couple of follow-ups and a couple of questions, please. I wanted to come back to the LTO topic from one of your large customers. I think the prior question was on the sales capacity, what % is from LTO style customers? I wonder if you could say broadly what % of Premium Brand sales or EBITDA comes from these types of products and could be at risk of occurring, not when projected.

John Zamparo: A couple of follow-ups and a couple of questions, please. I wanted to come back to the LTO topic from one of your large customers. I think the prior question was on the sales capacity, what % is from LTO style customers? I wonder if you could say broadly what % of Premium Brand sales or EBITDA comes from these types of products and could be at risk of occurring, not when projected.

Speaker #10: What percent is from LTO-style customers? I wonder if you could say broadly what percent of Premium Brands sales or EBITDA comes from these types of products and could be at risk of occurring not when projected?

Speaker #2: I would say, not material, John. Some of the growth is built around these. Stampede maybe is our biggest exposure to LTOs now, because of their food service exposure.

Will Kalutycz: I would say not material, John. Some of the growth is built around these. Stampede maybe is our biggest exposure to LTOs now because of their food service exposure. As you know, our US initiatives prior to Stampede were almost solely in retail outside of one or two large QSR customers. Not a lot of exposure in the legacy business, a bit of exposure in the Stampede business.

Will Kalutycz: I would say not material, John. Some of the growth is built around these. Stampede maybe is our biggest exposure to LTOs now because of their food service exposure. As you know, our US initiatives prior to Stampede were almost solely in retail outside of one or two large QSR customers. Not a lot of exposure in the legacy business, a bit of exposure in the Stampede business.

Speaker #2: But as you know, our US initiatives prior to Stampede were almost solely in retail, outside of one or two large QSR customers. So, not a lot of exposure in the legacy business.

Speaker #2: A bit of exposure in the Stampede business.

Speaker #8: And with regards to Stampede, John, this is actually an opportunity for us because historically, Stampede has been on the beef side of things. Most of their LTOs are beef-related, with their key customers.

George Paleologou: With regards to Stampede, John, this is actually an opportunity for us because historically Stampede has been on the beef side of things, and most of their LTOs are beef related with their key customers. Well now with the access to the PB ecosystem, we are showing them value-added chicken-based products or value-added seafood products, which they're showing to their customers for 2027. That's a growth opportunity for Stampede and for our ecosystem, and a synergy.

George Paleologou: With regards to Stampede, John, this is actually an opportunity for us because historically Stampede has been on the beef side of things, and most of their LTOs are beef related with their key customers. Well now with the access to the PB ecosystem, we are showing them value-added chicken-based products or value-added seafood products, which they're showing to their customers for 2027. That's a growth opportunity for Stampede and for our ecosystem, and a synergy.

Speaker #8: Well, now with the access to the PB ecosystem, we are showing them value-added chicken-based products or value-added seafood products, which they're showing to their customers for 2027.

Speaker #8: So, that's a growth opportunity for Stampede and for our ecosystem, and a synergy.

Speaker #10: Right. Okay. Understood. More holistically, when you get one of these LTOs that's meaningful and it gets deferred and it creates a change to Premium Brands’ EBITDA generation, does it make you more interested in onboarding customers who have more recurring revenue or those who can commit to certain volume purchases, rather than relying on limited-time offers?

John Zamparo: Right. Okay. Understood. More holistically, when you get one of these LTOs that's meaningful and it gets deferred and it creates a change to Premium Brands' EBITDA generation, does it make you more interested in onboarding customers who have more recurring revenue or those who can commit to certain volume purchases rather than relying on limited time offers?

John Zamparo: Right. Okay. Understood. More holistically, when you get one of these LTOs that's meaningful and it gets deferred and it creates a change to Premium Brands' EBITDA generation, does it make you more interested in onboarding customers who have more recurring revenue or those who can commit to certain volume purchases rather than relying on limited time offers?

Speaker #2: Well, one thing, John, there's always a strategy with these LTOs to make them permanent listings. That's ultimately our objective—and particularly with some of these QSR customers, where we're trying to develop permanent new listings with them.

Will Kalutycz: Well, one thing, John, there's always a strategy with these LTOs to make them permanent listings. That's ultimately our objective, and particularly with some of these QSR customers where we're trying to develop permanent new listings with them and then also leverage then our relationship to maybe take over some of their existing core products. There is a sort of bigger strategy around these LTOs.

Will Kalutycz: Well, one thing, John, there's always a strategy with these LTOs to make them permanent listings. That's ultimately our objective, and particularly with some of these QSR customers where we're trying to develop permanent new listings with them and then also leverage then our relationship to maybe take over some of their existing core products. There is a sort of bigger strategy around these LTOs.

Speaker #2: And then also leverage our relationship to maybe take over some of their existing core products. So there is a sort of bigger strategy around these LTOs.

Speaker #8: And ultimately, John, what we want to be seeing as an innovation partner with a lot of these customers is that we understand the necessity for them to have LTOs.

George Paleologou: Ultimately, John, we want to be seen as an innovation partner with a lot of these customers. We understand the necessity for them to have LTOs in order to drive traffic at different times of the year. We're in a lot of discussions with them in terms of being their innovation partner. We've done really well in the coffee channel by doing exactly that. A lot of our smaller coffee channel customers have actually moved from LTOs now to permanent listings. We're really happy about that.

George Paleologou: Ultimately, John, we want to be seen as an innovation partner with a lot of these customers. We understand the necessity for them to have LTOs in order to drive traffic at different times of the year. We're in a lot of discussions with them in terms of being their innovation partner. We've done really well in the coffee channel by doing exactly that. A lot of our smaller coffee channel customers have actually moved from LTOs now to permanent listings. We're really happy about that.

Speaker #8: In order to drive traffic at different times of the year. And we're in a lot of discussions with them in terms of being their innovation partner.

Speaker #8: We've done really well in the coffee channel by doing exactly that. And a lot of our smaller coffee channel customers have actually moved from LTOs now to permanent listings.

Speaker #8: And we're really happy about that.

Speaker #10: Okay, okay. That's helpful. And then on the closures you expect, I think the prepared remarks referenced there will be four facilities, and you closed one in Q2.

John Zamparo: Okay. That's helpful. On the closures you expect, I think the prepared remarks referenced there be four facilities, and you close one in Q2. Can you add a bit more color on this? Were these planned previously? Did something change that was particular to Q2? What categories within beef is it that you are referring to on these?

John Zamparo: Okay. That's helpful. On the closures you expect, I think the prepared remarks referenced there be four facilities, and you close one in Q2. Can you add a bit more color on this? Were these planned previously? Did something change that was particular to Q2? What categories within beef is it that you are referring to on these?

Speaker #10: Can you add a bit more color on this? Were these planned previously? Did something change that was particular to Q2, and what categories within beef is it that you're referring to on these?

George Paleologou: Again, John, when we decided to build a very large, efficient facility in the GTA area, we have considered closing a couple of smaller facilities ultimately and consolidated them into this brand-new facility. I mentioned earlier that facility will be commissioned in Q1 2027. It was supposed to be Q4 2026, but right now it looks like it will be Q1 2027. Again, we did the math in terms of the improvements in efficiency, throughput, scale, and all of those things. This was planned. As Will mentioned, of course, this beef plant that was basically at the end of its economic life. There is one in an older facility in the US that we have actually talked about before. Again, when we purchased Stampede, we bought some facilities with extra capacity. We are looking at consolidating this facility into one of their facilities.

George Paleologou: Again, John, when we decided to build a very large, efficient facility in the GTA area, we have considered closing a couple of smaller facilities ultimately and consolidated them into this brand-new facility. I mentioned earlier that facility will be commissioned in Q1 2027. It was supposed to be Q4 2026, but right now it looks like it will be Q1 2027. Again, we did the math in terms of the improvements in efficiency, throughput, scale, and all of those things. This was planned. As Will mentioned, of course, this beef plant that was basically at the end of its economic life. There is one in an older facility in the US that we have actually talked about before. Again, when we purchased Stampede, we bought some facilities with extra capacity. We are looking at consolidating this facility into one of their facilities.

Speaker #2: Again, John, when we decided to build a very large, efficient...

Speaker #8: In the GTA area, we've considered closing a couple of smaller facilities and ultimately consolidating them into this brand new facility. As I mentioned earlier, that facility will be commissioned in Q1 2027.

Speaker #8: We're supposed to be Q4 '26, but right now it looks like it'll be first quarter '27. Again, we did the math in terms of the improvements in efficiency, throughput, scale, and all of those things.

Speaker #8: So this was planned, as Will mentioned. Of course, this beef plant was basically at the end of its economic life. Then, there is one in an older facility in the US that we've actually talked about before. Again, when we purchased Stampede, we bought some facilities with extra capacity.

Speaker #8: So, we're looking at consolidating this facility into one of their facilities. So those are the four plants. Again, it makes a lot of sense to do it.

George Paleologou: Those are the four plants. Again, it makes a lot of sense to do it. These plants are not investable anymore, and ultimately, they will be beneficial to the bottom line.

George Paleologou: Those are the four plants. Again, it makes a lot of sense to do it. These plants are not investable anymore, and ultimately, they will be beneficial to the bottom line.

Speaker #8: These plants are not investable anymore, and ultimately, they'll be beneficial to the bottom line.

Speaker #10: Okay, thank you for that. And then one last one on CapEx: next year, do you expect it will approximate the '26 level, or do you think it could come down next year versus '26?

John Zamparo: Okay. Thank you for that. One last one on CapEx. Next year, do you expect it will approximate the 2026 level, or do you think it could come down next year versus 2026?

John Zamparo: Okay. Thank you for that. One last one on CapEx. Next year, do you expect it will approximate the 2026 level, or do you think it could come down next year versus 2026?

Speaker #2: Well, again, maintenance CapEx—we would suspect a similar level. Miscellaneous CapEx, that $70–$80 million I talked about, similar level. Outside of that, John, we have no specific plans in the pipeline for anything else.

Will Kalutycz: Well, again, maintenance CapEx, we would suspect a similar level. Miscellaneous CapEx, that CAD 70 to 80 million I talked about, similar level. Outside of that, John, we have no specific plans in the pipeline for anything else. That's the best we can say today.

Will Kalutycz: Well, again, maintenance CapEx, we would suspect a similar level. Miscellaneous CapEx, that CAD 70 to 80 million I talked about, similar level. Outside of that, John, we have no specific plans in the pipeline for anything else. That's the best we can say today.

Speaker #2: So, that's the best we can say today.

Speaker #10: Okay, understood. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

John Zamparo: Okay. Understood. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

John Zamparo: Okay. Understood. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thanks, John.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, John.

Will Kalutycz: Thanks, John.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question, counsel, on the line of Ryan Neal from TD Cowen, please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Neal from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Neal from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Speaker #11: Hey guys, this is Ryan, and thanks for taking my questions.

Ryan Neal: Hey, guys. This is Ryan Neal and thanks for taking my questions.

Ryan Neal: Hey, guys. This is Ryan Neal and thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker #10: Hey Ryan.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, Ryan.

Will Kalutycz: Hey, Ryan.

Speaker #11: Most of our questions have been answered, but I'm just curious if you can frame up some of the general opportunities you're seeing at Stampede across the business right now, and how we should think about the runway in that business moving forward.

Ryan Neal: Most of our questions have been answered, just curious if you can frame up some of the general opportunities you're seeing at Stampede across the business right now, and how we should think about the runway in that business moving forward.

Ryan Neal: Most of our questions have been answered, just curious if you can frame up some of the general opportunities you're seeing at Stampede across the business right now, and how we should think about the runway in that business moving forward.

Speaker #10: Well, we don't specifically talk about Stampede, but I did mention the two areas of opportunity for us. We're really excited to be in a position to offer items like cooked skewers, raw skewers, and a lot of other chicken bites, which are extremely successful in retail.

George Paleologou: Well, we don't specifically talk about Stampede. I did mention the two areas of opportunity for us. We're really excited to be in a position to offer items like cooked skewers, raw skewers, a lot of other chicken bites which are extremely successful in retail. We're really excited to be introducing these type of products to them and to have them include them in their portfolio of offerings to their customer base. Similarly, seafood as well. We're very developed in terms of our seafood knowledge and our seafood expertise. Again, I know that they're having specific discussions with customers about seafood offerings. These are very significant opportunities, both in terms of LTOs and regular listings with these customers.

George Paleologou: Well, we don't specifically talk about Stampede. I did mention the two areas of opportunity for us. We're really excited to be in a position to offer items like cooked skewers, raw skewers, a lot of other chicken bites which are extremely successful in retail. We're really excited to be introducing these type of products to them and to have them include them in their portfolio of offerings to their customer base. Similarly, seafood as well. We're very developed in terms of our seafood knowledge and our seafood expertise. Again, I know that they're having specific discussions with customers about seafood offerings. These are very significant opportunities, both in terms of LTOs and regular listings with these customers.

Speaker #10: So we're really excited to be introducing these types of products to them and to have them include them in their portfolio of offerings to their customer base.

Speaker #10: And similarly, seafood as well. We're very developed in terms of our seafood knowledge and our seafood expertise. And again, I know that they're having specific discussions with customers about seafood offerings.

Speaker #10: So, these are very, very significant opportunities, both in terms of LTOs and regular listings with these customers.

Speaker #11: Great, thank you. And Custom Culinary looked like organic volume was down 3.5%. Do you have an idea of what U.S. volume growth would have been excluding the impact of the LTO?

Ryan Neal: Great. Thank you. In Custom Culinary, it looked like organic volume was down 3.5%. Do you have an idea of what US volume growth would've been excluding the impact of the LTO?

Ryan Neal: Great. Thank you. In Custom Culinary, it looked like organic volume was down 3.5%. Do you have an idea of what US volume growth would've been excluding the impact of the LTO?

Speaker #2: Yeah. About 4%, right?

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Above 4%, Ryan.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Above 4%, Ryan.

Speaker #11: Great. Thanks, Will.

Ryan Neal: Great. Thanks, Will.

Ryan Neal: Great. Thanks, Will.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Once again, should you have a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question, counsel, on the line of Ryland Conrad from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Once again, should you have a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Ryland Conrad from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Once again, should you have a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Ryland Conrad from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #12: Hey, good morning, guys.

Ryland Conrad: Hey, good morning, guys.

Ryland Conrad: Hey, good morning, guys.

Speaker #13: Good morning.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning.

Will Kalutycz: Good morning.

Speaker #12: Maybe just following up on the topic of Stampede, could you give us an update there on how much excess sales capacity that business is currently sitting on?

George Paleologou: Morning.

George Paleologou: Morning.

Ryland Conrad: Maybe just following on the topic of Stampede, could you give us an update there just on how much excess sales capacity that business is currently sitting on? I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding on the extent to which there's room for EBITDA margin expansion for that business driven by operating leverage, obviously in addition to the synergies that you previously outlined.

Ryland Conrad: Maybe just following on the topic of Stampede, could you give us an update there just on how much excess sales capacity that business is currently sitting on? I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding on the extent to which there's room for EBITDA margin expansion for that business driven by operating leverage, obviously in addition to the synergies that you previously outlined.

Speaker #12: I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the extent to which there's room for EBITDA margin expansion for that business, driven by operating leverage.

Speaker #12: Obviously, in addition to the synergies that you've previously outlined.

Speaker #2: Yeah, so when we acquired them, they had about $400 million US in unutilized capacity. This year, we'll obviously use some portion of that, but it's going to have significant capacity still exiting 2026.

Will Kalutycz: Yes. When we acquired them, they had about USD 400 million in unutilized capacity. This year we'll obviously use some portion of that, but it's going to have significant capacity still exiting 2026.

Will Kalutycz: Yes. When we acquired them, they had about USD 400 million in unutilized capacity. This year we'll obviously use some portion of that, but it's going to have significant capacity still exiting 2026.

Speaker #12: Okay, great. And then just on the business, obviously continuing to trend towards a 3 times or lower leverage target by early to mid next year.

Ryland Conrad: Okay, great. Just on the business, obviously continuing to trend towards your 3x or lower leverage target by early to mid next year. How should investors think about the optimal leverage range for the business longer term? Is that 3x range the floor that you intend to operate at? Do you see the case for structurally lower leverage, say 2x or 2.5x, that could give you a bit more flexibility around enhancing capital returns or larger M&A?

Ryland Conrad: Okay, great. Just on the business, obviously continuing to trend towards your 3x or lower leverage target by early to mid next year. How should investors think about the optimal leverage range for the business longer term? Is that 3x range the floor that you intend to operate at? Do you see the case for structurally lower leverage, say 2x or 2.5x, that could give you a bit more flexibility around enhancing capital returns or larger M&A?

Speaker #12: I guess, how should investors think about the optimal leverage range for the business longer term? Is that three-times range the floor that you intend to operate at, or do you see the case for structurally lower leverage—say, two times or two and a half times—that could give you a bit more flexibility around enhancing capital returns or pursuing larger M&A?

Speaker #2: Yeah. Our objective is to get down to that three or better and stay there, rather than— that's kind of it. And then decisions to go lower will be driven by opportunities to deploy capital.

Will Kalutycz: Our objective is to get down to that 3 or better and stay there, Ryland. That's kind of it. Decisions to go lower will be driven by opportunities to deploy capital.

Will Kalutycz: Our objective is to get down to that three or better and stay there, Ryland. That's kind of it. Decisions to go lower will be driven by opportunities to deploy capital.

Speaker #12: Okay, got it. And then just last for me, on the LTOs and some of those product launches that were delayed, I guess could you confirm whether you're now sitting on any excess inventory that was built up in advance of those launches?

Ryland Conrad: Got it. Just last for me on the LTOs and some of those product launches that were delayed. Could you confirm whether you're now sitting on any excess inventory that was built up in advance of those launches?

Ryland Conrad: Got it. Just last for me on the LTOs and some of those product launches that were delayed. Could you confirm whether you're now sitting on any excess inventory that was built up in advance of those launches?

Speaker #2: Yeah. No. Absolutely not.

Will Kalutycz: No, absolutely not.

Will Kalutycz: No, absolutely not.

Speaker #12: Okay. Perfect. Thank you, guys.

Ryland Conrad: Okay, perfect. Thank you, guys.

Ryland Conrad: Okay, perfect. Thank you, guys.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Thanks, John.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Thanks, Rylan.

Will Kalutycz: Yeah. Thanks, Rylan.

Speaker #10: Thank you.

George Paleologou: Thank you.

George Paleologou: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Paul Diallogu, please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Paliologu, please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Paliologu, please go ahead.

Speaker #10: Yeah. I'd like to thank everybody for attending. Enjoy the rest of your summer. Thank you, Ina.

George Paleologou: Yeah, I'd like to thank everybody for attending. Enjoy the rest of your summer. Thank you, Inna.

George Paleologou: Yeah, I'd like to thank everybody for attending. Enjoy the rest of your summer. Thank you, Inna.

Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.

Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.

Q2 2026 Premium Brands Holdings Corp Earnings Call - Q&A

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Q2 2026 Premium Brands Holdings Corp Earnings Call - Q&A

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Thursday, August 6th, 2026 at 5:30 PM

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