Q3 2026 Kulicke and Soffa Industries Inc Earnings Call

August 6, 2026

Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Kulicke & Soffa Q3 2026 Conference Call Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Joseph Elgindy, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker #1: Greetings. Welcome to the Kulicke and Soffa Q4 2026 conference call results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Speaker #1: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. Please note recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Joe Elgindy, this conference is being Senior Director, Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Welcome, everyone, to Kulicke and Soffa's fiscal Q3 2026 conference call. Lester Wong, Interim Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer, also joins me on today's call.

Joseph Elgindy: Thank you. Welcome everyone to Kulicke and Soffa's fiscal Q3 2026 conference call. Lester Wong, Interim Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer, also joins me on today's call. Non-GAAP financial measures referenced today should be considered in addition to, not as a substitute for, or in isolation from our GAAP financial information. GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation tables are included within our latest earnings release and earnings presentation. Both are available at investor.kns.com, along with prepared remarks for today's call. In addition to historical statements, today's discussion contains forward-looking statements regarding our future performance and outlook. These statements are made under the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially.

Speaker #2: Non-GAAP financial measures as a substitute for or in isolation from our GAAP financial referenced today should be considered in addition to not information. GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation tables are included within our latest earnings release and investor.canas.com, along with prepared remarks for today's earnings presentation.

Speaker #2: today's discussion contains call. Both are available at In addition to historical statements, forward-looking statements regarding our future performance and outlook. These statements are made under the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially.

Speaker #2: For a complete discussion of the risks associated with Kulicke and Soffa that could affect our future results and financial condition, please refer to our latest Form 10-K and upcoming SEC filings for additional information.

Joseph Elgindy: For a complete discussion of the risks associated with Kulicke and Soffa that could affect our future results and financial condition, please refer to our latest Form 10-K and upcoming SEC filings for additional information. With that said, I would now like to turn the call over to Lester Wong for the business, market, and financial overview. Please go ahead, Lester.

Speaker #2: With that said, I would now like to turn the call over to Lester Wong for the business, market, and financial overview. Please go ahead, Lester.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Joe. Good morning, everyone. Demand continues to improve at a faster pace than previously expected, and our operational teams are aggressively ramping production to support customer capacity and technology requirements.

Lester Wong: Thank you, Joe. Good morning, everyone. Demand continues to improve at a faster pace than previously expected. Our operational teams are aggressively ramping production to support customer capacity and technology requirements. Our own capacity expansion plan here in Singapore also remain on track. This new production space will support the growth of our advanced solutions segment over the coming years. We were able to support our customers' near-term needs by ramping our flexible production capacity and driving a 36% sequential revenue increase during the fiscal Q3. Overall market strength continued to be led by generic semiconductor and memory applications, although we are pleased to note that utilization rates have improved sequentially in all regions and in all end markets. Growth in artificial intelligence applications remain the driving factor behind data center expansion.

Speaker #3: Our own capacity expansion plan here in Singapore also remains on track. This new production space will support the growth of our advanced solutions segment over the coming years.

Speaker #3: We were able to support our customers' near-term needs by ramping our flexible production capacity and driving a 36% sequential revenue increase during the fiscal Q3.

Speaker #3: Overall market strength continued to be led by January semiconductor and memory applications, although we are pleased to note that utilization rates have improved sequentially in all regions and in all end markets.

Speaker #3: Growth in artificial intelligence applications remained the driving factor behind data center expansion. This growing data center opportunity in turn drives meaningful increase in demand for both our thermal compression and wire bonding solutions.

Lester Wong: This growing data center opportunity, in turn, drives meaningful increase in demand for both our thermal compression and wire bonding solutions. It is increasingly evident that most performance-oriented logic and memory applications will continue to adopt more complex heterogeneous integration approaches. Adoption of more complex assembly approaches directly benefits our current thermal compression business and steers our investments in R&D and production capacity. While emerging AI applications are a clear catalyst to accelerate high volume growth of our new advanced packaging and heterogeneous assembly approaches, we expect we're still in the early stages of this much longer-term technology transition. We continue to anticipate this more than more driven technology centric transition will continue to advance semiconductor assembly and benefit K&S well beyond this current cycle.

Speaker #3: increasingly evident that most performance-oriented logic and memory applications will continue to adopt more complex heterogeneous integration approaches. Adoption of more complex assembly approaches directly benefits our current thermal compression business It is and production capacity.

Speaker #3: While emerging AI applications are a clear catalyst to accelerate high-volume growth of a new advanced packaging and heterogeneous assembly approaches, we expect we're still in the early stages of this much longer-term technology transition.

Speaker #3: We continue to anticipate this more than war-driven technology-centric transition will continue to advance semiconductor assembly and benefit Canas well beyond this current cycle. In addition to the needs of most performance-oriented applications, data center expansion also requires new and increased capacity for established assembly technologies, which support networking, communications, power management, and storage requirements.

Lester Wong: In addition to the needs of most performance-oriented applications, data center expansion also requires new and increased capacity for established assembly technologies which support networking, communications, power management, and storage requirements. We estimate that the data center market relies on wire bonding technology at least as much as, if not more than, traditional semiconductor markets such as smartphones and PCs. As the leader in wire bonding technology, we are primed to support this growth. In addition to our involvement to support data center related technology and capacity needs, we are also encouraged to see positive momentum continuing within the automotive and industrial markets, which has recently increased demand for our wedge products as well. During the Q2, company revenue increased by 36.2% sequentially through focused global coordination and operations execution.

Speaker #3: We estimate that the data center market relies on wire bonding technology at least as much as, if not more than, traditional semiconductor markets such as smartphones and PCs.

Speaker #3: As the leader in wire bonding technology, we are primed to support this growth. In addition to our involvement to support data center-related technology and capacity needs, we're also encouraged to see positive momentum continuing within the automotive and industrial markets, which has recently increased demand for our wedge products as well.

Speaker #3: During the June quarter, company revenue increased by 36.2% sequentially through focused global coordination and operations execution. While we are not immune from global supply chain constraints and macroeconomic conditions, we are gaining exceeded expectations as we ramp production aggressively this quarter.

Lester Wong: While we are not immune from global supply chain constraints and macroeconomic conditions, we again exceeded expectations as we ramped production aggressively this quarter. Revenue recognized for our advanced solutions segment, which includes our leading Fluxless thermal compression solutions, has exceeded last quarter's record revenue by 20%. In addition to supporting customers' emerging production requirements, our advanced solutions teams remain focused on driving innovation in both panel-based and hybrid bonding platforms with a heightened emphasis on increasing our production capacity for advanced solution offerings. We are maintaining our target of over $100 million in advanced solutions segment revenue for fiscal 2026 and continue to prepare for significant sequential growth in fiscal 2027. This growth is supported by performance and process readiness of our flexible, highly capable thermal compression platform provided to customers.

Speaker #3: Revenue recognized for our advanced solutions segment, which includes our leading flux of thermal compression solutions, has exceeded last quarter's record revenue by 20%. In addition to supporting customers' emerging production requirements, our advanced solutions teams remain focused on driving innovation in both panel-level and hybrid bonding platforms with a heightened emphasis on increasing our production capacity for advanced solution offerings.

Speaker #3: We are maintaining our target of over $100 million in advanced solutions segment revenue for fiscal 2026 and continue to prepare for significant sequential growth in fiscal 2027.

Speaker #3: This growth is supported by performance and process readiness of our flexible highly capable thermal compression platform provided to customers. Remaining closely engaged with a broad base of IDM, OSAT, and foundry customers as heterogeneous packaging approaches become mainstream.

Lester Wong: We remain closely engaged with a broad base of IDM, OSAT, and foundry customers as heterogeneous packaging approaches become mainstream. While AI applications are accelerating the transition to more complex assembly today, we're still relatively early stages of this advanced packaging transition. Today, emerging packaging solutions such as FDC, vertical wire, direct copper to copper, hybrid, and panel-based architectures will be critically necessary for a much wider array of semiconductor production over the coming years. Through our technical leadership, ongoing investment in R&D, and a manufacturing expansion plan, we continue to build a strong foundation that directly support these new advanced packaging approaches. Our capital expansion initiative here in Singapore is progressing well and remain on track. This new production space will allow us to support the growing capacity and technology needs of customers over the long term.

Speaker #3: While AI applications are accelerating the transition to more complex assembly today, we're still relatively early stages of this advanced packaging transition. Today, emerging packaging solutions such as FTC, vertical wire, direct couple to copper, hybrid, and panel-based architectures will be critically necessary for a much wider array of semiconductor production over the coming years.

Speaker #3: Through our technical leadership, ongoing investment in R&D and manufacturing expansion plan, we continue to build a strong foundation that directly supports these new advanced packaging approaches.

Speaker #3: Our capital expansion initiative here in Singapore is progressing well and remains on track. This new production space will allow us to support the growing capacity and technology needs of customers over the long term.

Speaker #3: We continue to target completion by the first fiscal half of 2027. Our closed engagement, technology leadership, and growing production footprint all enable us to contribute to a higher level of process value across served markets.

Lester Wong: We continue to target completion by the H1 of 2027. Our close engagement, technology leadership, and growing production footprint all enable us to contribute to a higher level of process value across served markets. Our wire bonding teams in both bond and wedge are also aggressively scaling production to meet strong customer demand and continue to develop and release new packaging solutions to a wide base of memory and power semiconductor customers. Turning to the end market review, general semiconductor revenue increased by 52.6% sequentially to $227.2 million, driven by higher capacity and technology requirements for both ball bonding and advanced solution segments. While AI and data center has been the major driver, we are now also seeing broader base recovery in traditional markets as well. Memory shipment increased by 8.8% sequentially to $34 million after strong sequential growth in the Q2.

Speaker #3: Our wire bonding teams in both form wedge are also aggressively scaling production to meet strong customer demand and continue to develop and release new packaging solutions to a wide base of memory and power semiconductor customers.

Speaker #3: Turning to the end market review, general semiconductor revenue increased by 52.6% sequentially to $227.2 million, driven by higher capacity and technology requirements for both ball bonding and advanced solutions segments.

Speaker #3: While AI and data center has been the major driver, we are now also seeing broad base recovery in traditional markets as well. Memory shipment increased by 8.8% sequentially to $34 million after strong sequential growth in the second fiscal quarter.

Speaker #3: Our memory basis is currently focused on delivering NAND technology and capacity requirements. Based on our market understanding, data center is now currently the largest end applications across global NAND production.

Lester Wong: Our memory basis is currently focused on delivering NAND technology and capacity requirements. Based on our market understanding, data center is now currently the largest end applications across global NAND production. Beyond NAND, our vertical wire team continues to work closely with memory customers as they develop new forms of stacked DRAM applications. Automotive and industrial demand improved by 9% sequentially to $24.2 million after strong improvement last quarter. We continue to see robust demand for high IO and high volume power and mixed signal packaging, which tends to track with general semiconductor. Additionally, during our fiscal Q3, demand for our high current wedge solution also increased. As many of you know, our wedge bonding suite is a critical part of our automotive and industrial offering. This market has faced industry-level headwinds for the past several years.

Speaker #3: Beyond NAND, our vertical wire team continues to work closely with memory customers as they develop new forms of stacked DRAM applications. Automotive and industrial demand improved by 9% sequentially to $24.2 million after strong improvement last quarter.

Speaker #3: We continue to see robust demand for high I/O and high volume power and mixed signal packaging, which tends to track for general semiconductor. Additionally, during our fiscal third quarter, demand for our high current wedge loses also increased.

Speaker #3: As many of you know, our wedge bonding suite is a critical part of our automotive and industrial offering. This market has faced industry-level headwinds for the past several years.

Speaker #3: Over this time, we continue to expand our portfolio and look forward to continued recovery. We are pleased to see this sequential improvement and remain well positioned to benefit from long-term share growth in battery and plug-in hybrids, which require new power semiconductor technology and capacity requirements over the long term.

Lester Wong: Over this time, we continue to expand our portfolio and look forward to continued recovery. We are pleased to see this sequential improvement and remain well-positioned to benefit from long-term share growth in battery and plug-in hybrids, which require new power semiconductor technology and capacity requirements over the long term. Aftermarket products and services also increased sequentially due to the higher level of production across our installed base. It remains an interesting and exciting time at the company and for our industry. We recently celebrated K&S 75th anniversary and are proud of our legacy as a global leader and pioneer in semiconductor interconnect solutions. For three-quarters of a century, our success has been grounded in the trust and strong partnership we have developed with customers, suppliers, and business partners around the world.

Speaker #3: Aftermarket products and services also increased sequentially due to the higher level of production across our install base. It remains an interesting and exciting time at the company and for our industry.

Speaker #3: We recently celebrated KNS's 75th anniversary, and I'm proud of our legacy as a global leader and pioneer in semiconductor interconnect solutions. For three quarters of a century, our success has been grounded in the trust and strong partnerships we have developed with customers, suppliers, and business partners around the world.

Speaker #3: Looking ahead, we remain confident in our ability to extend our platform through ongoing investments in innovation to support the next generation of advanced solutions.

Lester Wong: Looking ahead, we remain confident in our ability to extend our platform through ongoing investments in innovation to support the next generation of advanced packaging solutions. With that said, I will now provide a brief financial update. My remarks today were for the GAAP results, unless noted. We again delivered revenue above guidance and continue to execute an aggressive production ramp through served markets. During the June quarter, overall revenue increased by 123% over the same period last year. Close coordination by our business segments, R&D, and supply chain teams remained essential to support our customers' immediate needs and also their future production requirements. Gross margins came in at 47.8% during the Q3, and we delivered $1.7 of GAAP earnings and $1.20 of non-GAAP earnings. Total operating expense came in at $89.7 million on a GAAP basis and $82.6 million on a non-GAAP basis.

Speaker #3: With that said, I will now provide a brief financial update. My remarks today refer to the GAAP results unless noted. We again delivered revenue above guidance and continue to execute an aggressive production ramp through served markets.

Speaker #3: During the June quarter, overall revenue increased by $123% over the same period last year. Close coronation by our business segments, R&D, and supply chain teams remain essential to support our customers' immediate needs and also their future production requirements.

Speaker #3: Gross margins came in at 47.8% during the third fiscal quarter, and we delivered $1.07 of gap earnings and $1.20 of non-gap earnings. Total operating expense came in at $89.7 million on a gap basis and $82.6 million on a non-gap basis.

Speaker #3: As explained last quarter, this sequential increase was anticipated and largely related to the increase in variable incentive compensation accruals throughout our second fiscal half.

Lester Wong: As explained last quarter, this sequential increase was anticipated and largely related to the increase in variable incentive compensation accruals throughout our second fiscal H2. This variable expense was the primary driver, although we have also increased some fixed resources, which support our growing base of opportunities. Tax expense came in at $15.3 million, and we anticipate our effective tax rate will remain slightly above 20% over the near term. For the September Q4, revenue is expected to increase by 13.5% sequentially to $375 million, with gross margins of 48%. Non-GAAP operating expenses will temporarily increase to approximately $87.5 million. This sequential increase is temporary for the September Q4 and is largely associated with the performance-orientated nature and quarterly accrual of our variable incentive compensation plan. We expect GAAP earnings per share to be $1.29, and non-GAAP earnings per share to be $1.42 for the Q4.

Speaker #3: This variable expense was primarily was the primary driver, although we have also increased some fixed resources, which support our growing base of opportunities. Tax expense came in at $15.3 million, and we anticipate our effective tax rate will remain slightly above 20% over the near term.

Speaker #3: For the September quarter, revenue is expected to increase by 13.5% sequentially to $375 million for gross margins of 48%. Non-gap operating expenses were temporary increased to approximately $87.5 million.

Speaker #3: This sequential increase is temporary for the September quarter and is largely associated with the performance-oriented nature and quarterly accrual of our variable incentive compensation plan.

Speaker #3: We expect gap earnings per share to be $1.29 and non-gap earnings per share to be $1.42 for the four fiscal quarter. At this point, we remain opportunistic on both near-term and longer-term opportunities, and we continue to anticipate above-average demand will continue in the fiscal 2027.

Lester Wong: At this point, we remain opportunistic on both near-term and longer-term opportunities, and we continue to anticipate above-average demand will continue into fiscal 2027. This concludes our prepared comments. Operator, please open the call for questions.

Speaker #3: This concludes our prepared comments. Operator, please open the call for questions.

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Speaker #2: Our first question is from Krish Sankar with TD Cowan. Please proceed.

Speaker #1: Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking my question. And congrats on the really strong results and guidance. Lester, I had three quick questions. I'm just trying to wonder, you know, given the strong growth in September, are you seeing it across the board?

Krish Sankar: Yeah. Hi, thanks for taking my question, congrats on the really strong results and guidance. Lester, I have three quick questions. I'm just trying to wonder, given the strong growth in September Q4, are you seeing it across the board, like mid-teens growth for semi, memory, and auto industry, is one better than the other?

Speaker #1: Like mid-teams growth for semi, memory, and auto industrial, or is one better than the other?

Speaker #3: Well, Krish, I think as we said, general semi and memory are leading the way. I think automotive and industrial has improved. You know, as you know, they face quite a lot of headwinds over the last couple of quarters.

Lester Wong: Well, Krish, I think as we said, general semi and memory are leading the way. I think automotive and industrial has improved. As you know, they faced quite a lot of headwinds over the last couple of quarters. They're picking up a little bit, but still, it's generally general semi and memory that's driving the ramp.

Speaker #3: But they're picking up a little bit, but still, it's generally general semi and memory that's driving the ramp.

Speaker #1: Got it. Got it. And then I think you also mentioned in the slide that the strength is expected to last into fiscal's first half.

Krish Sankar: Got it. I think you also mentioned in the slide that the strength is expected to last into fiscal's H1. I'm kind of curious, as you get more data center, how should we think about December and March quarter? In other words, should we see seasonality in March, or do you think there won't be seasonality this time?

Speaker #1: I'm kind of curious, like, you know, as you get more data center, how should you think about December and March quarter? In other words, should we see seasonality in March?

Speaker #1: Or do you think there won't be seasonality this time?

Speaker #3: Well, Krish, you know, our business is always a little bit of seasonality in our Q1, right? Which is our December quarter. But I think, you know, based on what we see right now, you know, both the utilization rates are extremely high in China is over 95%.

Lester Wong: Well, Krish, our business is always a little bit of seasonality in our Q1, right? Which is our December quarter. I think, based on what we see right now, both the utilization rates are extremely high. In China, it's over 95%. End markets, both memory and general semi, is around 90%. We are also seeing a lot of inbound POs even extending into Q2. Usually, that doesn't happen for us. You usually don't have POs that goes out that far. Also in conversations and visits with customers, particularly in China, we are seeing them to continue to build factories. I think based on all those factors, we feel pretty confident that the strength in the traditional business is going to continue into the H1 of fiscal 2027. In addition, for our advanced solution business, we're engaged with foundries, OSATs, and IDMs.

Speaker #3: End markets both memory and general semi is around 90%. We are also seeing a lot of inbound POs, even go extending into Q2, usually that doesn't happen for us.

Speaker #3: You usually don't have POs that goes out that far. And also in conversations and visits with customers, particularly in China, we are seeing them to continue to, you know, build factories.

Speaker #3: So I think based on all those factors, we feel pretty confident that, you know, the strength in the business in the traditional business is going to continue into the first half of fiscal 27.

Speaker #3: In addition, for our advanced solution business, you know, we're engaged with foundries, OSATs, and IDMs. So again, we feel pretty confident we can take advantage of a lot of those opportunities.

Lester Wong: Again, we feel pretty confident we can take advantage of a lot of those opportunities, particularly in heterogeneous integration around logic for our Fluxless TCB.

Speaker #3: Particularly in heterogeneous integration around logic for our FLEXUS TCB.

Speaker #1: Gotcha. Very helpful. Then a quick follow-up, Lester, just on the advanced solutions at TC Business. You know, you said like over $100 million this year.

Krish Sankar: Got you. Very helpful. A quick follow-up, Lester, just on the advanced solutions, that TC business. You said over $100 million this year, fiscal year, which is end of this quarter. If I just take what you did last quarter, analyze that kind of implies close to $120 million next year, at least 20% growth. Is that the right way to think about it, or do you think that actually accelerates next year?

Speaker #1: Fiscal year, which is, you know, end of this quarter, if I just take what you did last quarter, analyze that, that kind of implies like close to $120 million next year, at least 20% growth.

Speaker #1: Is that the right way to think about it, or do you think that actually accelerates next year?

Speaker #3: You mean what? Do I think TCB is going to do next year, Krish?

Lester Wong: You mean what do I think TCB is going to do next year, Krish?

Speaker #1: Yeah.

Krish Sankar: Yeah.

Speaker #3: I think actually TCB will grow significantly next year. On a sequential basis, I think we're, as I said, we're for this year, we think we're going to be at $100 million I think for FY27.

Lester Wong: I think actually TCB will grow significantly next year, on a sequential basis. As I said, for this year, we think we're going to beat $100 million. I think for FY2027, I think for TCB, we are looking at somewhere in the region of $150 to $200 million.

Speaker #3: I think for TCB, we are looking at somewhere in the region of $150 to $200 million.

Speaker #1: Great. Thank you very much, Lester. I appreciate it.

Krish Sankar: Great. Thank you very much, Lester. Appreciate it.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Krish.

Lester Wong: Thanks, Krish.

Speaker #2: Our next question is from Charles. She with Needham and Company. Please proceed.

Operator: Our next question is from Charles Shi with Needham & Company. Please proceed.

Speaker #1: Hi, Lester. Congrats on the nice results. I think one thing you said in the prepared yeah, one thing is you said in the prepared remarks kind of sounds very interesting.

Charles Shi: Hey, Lester. Congrats on the nice results.

Lester Wong: Thank you, Charles.

Charles Shi: Yeah. One thing you said in the prepared remarks kind of sounds very interesting. You said the data center relies on wire bonding as much as the phones and the PCs. This is a part, I think, we may have discussed this in the past, but can you elaborate a little bit what kind of wire bonding packaging you are seeing the most in data center applications? The one thing in particular I do want to ask is, we would think there's a little bit more of the power devices there that could probably drive wedge bonding, but the wedge bonding looks like it's more still relying on the traditional industry, and you are seeing some sequential improvement, but a lot of what you consider data center demand seems to be driving ball bonding.

Speaker #1: You said the data center relies on wire bonding as much as the phones and the PCs. This is a part, yeah, I think we may have discussed this in the past, but can you kind of elaborate a little bit?

Speaker #1: What kind of wire bonding packaging are you seeing the most in data center applications? And one thing in particular I do want to ask is, we would think there's a little bit more of the power devices there that could probably drive wedge bonding, but the wedge bonding looks like it's more still relying on the traditional industry. You are seeing some sequential improvement, but a lot of what you consider data center demand seems to be driving ball bonding.

Speaker #1: So it's a little bit of a a little bit of an interesting comment there. And I wonder if you can provide a little bit more color.

Charles Shi: It's a little bit of an interesting comment there, and I wonder if you can provide a little bit more color. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Sure, Charles. You know, wire bonding in data centers basically is—in fact, more than a majority of chips in the data center are actually traditionally packaged using wire bonding.

Lester Wong: Sure, Charles. Wire bonding in data center, basically, in fact, more than a majority of chips in the data center is actually traditionally packaged using wire bonding. These are for applications like general infrastructure, networking, communication, power and storage. Also, in storage, it's basically memory, and I think as I said in the remarks, as you know, we're focused on NAND for now, and 40% of the NAND market now goes towards data centers. Obviously, we have exposure there as well. As far as wedge bonder in data center, you're correct. Wedge bonder is still a little bit more focused on the automotive. They're high current. It's more ball bonder in terms of for power management in data centers.

Speaker #3: I mean, these are for applications like general infrastructure, networking, communication, power, and, you know, storage. So and also the in storage is basically memory.

Speaker #3: And I think, as I said in the remarks, you know, as you know, we're focused on NAND for now. And 40% of the NAND market now goes to its data center.

Speaker #3: So obviously we have exposure there as well. As far as wedge bonder, in data center, you're correct, wedge bonder is still a little bit more focused on focus on the automotive.

Speaker #3: They're, you know, high current. But, you know, it's more ball bonder in terms of, for power management in data centers.

Speaker #1: Got it. I think you mentioned about the demand mentioned of PO, your actually starting to filling up the second fiscal quarter, if I hear you correctly.

Charles Shi: Got it. I think you mentioned about demand, mentioned PO. You're actually starting to filling up the Q2, if I hear you correctly, and the H1 of the next fiscal year. I know it's kind of hard for you to project out for the entire year next year, because you don't really have the POs, but I'm sure you have customer conversations who provide you at least some high-level forecast. Can you help us understand where you think next year's growth could potentially be? Especially one of the things people like to compare is where you could go in terms of how high the revenue could be next year versus the prior cycles, let's say in 2021 and 2022, where you did hit that $1.5 billion per year level. Are you still thinking you're not going back to that level?

Speaker #1: And first half of the next fiscal year, I know it's kind of hard for you to project out for the entire year next year.

Speaker #1: Because you don't really have the POs, but I'm sure you have customer conversations who provide you at least some high level forecast. So kind of can you kind of help us understand where you think next year's growth could potentially be?

Speaker #1: And especially, one of the things people like to compare is where you could go in terms of how high the revenue could be next year versus the prior cycles. Let's say, in 2021 and 2022, where you did hit that $1.5 billion per year level.

Speaker #1: Is it are you still thinking, you're not going back to that level or maybe maybe you could actually go back there and maybe exceed that level?

Charles Shi: You could actually go back there and maybe exceed that level? Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Well, Charles, as you said, you know, you follow the industry for a long time, like for us, visibility actually is is usually not even as far out as what we have in the first half of fiscal 27.

Lester Wong: Well, Charles, as you said, you've followed the industry for a long time. Like, for us, visibility actually is usually not even as far out as what we have in the H1 of fiscal 2027. It's very volatile. I think it's difficult for me to say what FY 2027 would look like as a whole, but as I said, based on utilization rate, based on POs, based on customer conversation, we think the H1 of 2027 will be very strong. As far as do we think it'll go back to 2021, 2022 levels, those were extreme levels. That was like a global pandemic, right? Growth was around the world as people work from home and play from home. That's a very high bar.

Speaker #3: So, I mean, it's very volatile, so I think it's difficult for me to kind of say what FY27 would look like as a whole.

Speaker #3: But as I said, based on utilization rate, based on POs, based on customer conversation, we think the first half of 27 will be very strong.

Speaker #3: As far as do we think they'll go back to 21, 22 levels, I mean, those were, you know, extreme levels. That was like a global pandemic, right?

Speaker #3: And, you know, growth was around the world and people work from home and play from home. So that that's a very high bar. I think we're pretty confident that the first half of 27 will look good and then as we you know, in our November call, I think we'll probably give you more color on what the second half looks like.

Lester Wong: I think we're pretty confident that the H1 of 2027 will look good, in our November call, I think we'll probably give you more color on what the H2 looks like.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Lester.

Charles Shi: Thank you, Lester.

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Operator: As a reminder, it is star one on your telephone keypad if you would like to ask a question. Our next question is from David Duley with Steelhead Securities. Please proceed.

Speaker #2: Please proceed.

David Duley: Yeah. Thanks for taking my question. Lester, I was just wondering if you could help us understand what your current total capacity is for the wire and wedge bonder business. You are running at pretty high run rates here with your guidance at $375 million a quarter. Perhaps just help us understand what your full capacity is and how much you are increasing the core business capacity at this time.

Dave Duley: Yeah. Thanks for taking my question. Lester, I was just wondering if you could help us understand what your current total capacity is for the wire and wedge bonder business. You are running at pretty high run rates here with your guidance at $375 million a quarter. Perhaps just help us understand what your full capacity is and how much you are increasing the core business capacity at this time.

Speaker #1: Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Lester, I was just wondering if you could help us understand what your current total capacity is for, you know, the wire and wedge bonder business.

Speaker #1: You're running a pretty high run rates here with your guidance at 375 million a quarter. Perhaps just help us understand what your, you know, total capacity is and how much you're increasing the core business capacity at this time.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Dave. Well, we have actually significantly increased the capacity for the traditional business—the wire bonding business—right? I mean, from about two quarters ago, we have now increased capacity 4x, right?

Lester Wong: Well, we actually have significantly increased the capacity for the traditional business, the wire bonding business, right? From about two quarters ago, we have now increased capacity 4x, right? We have a very, very flexible manufacturing model. We have been doing this for a long time. As I said in my remarks, this is our 75th anniversary. Our supply chain teams, our operations team, our logistics, as well as our engineering teams work very closely together to meet customers' near-term needs as well as more mid-term demands, right? Again, we are very focused on not losing market share because of capacity issues. We are pretty comfortable where we are at.

Speaker #3: We have a very, very flexible manufacturing model. We've been doing this for a long time. As I said in my remarks, you know, this is our 75th anniversary.

Speaker #3: So, you know, our supply chain teams, our operations team, our logistics as well as our, you know, engineering teams work very closely together to meet, you know, customers' near-term needs as well as, you know, more mid-term demands, right?

Speaker #3: So again, we're very focused on not losing market share because of capacity issues. So we're pretty comfortable where we are at.

Speaker #1: Would you be able to support a 4 or 450 million kind of quarterly run rate at this point?

David Duley: Would you be able to support a $400 or $450 million kind of quarterly run rate at this point?

Dave Duley: Would you be able to support a $400 or $450 million kind of quarterly run rate at this point?

Speaker #3: Well, Dave, I don't see a 450 million run rate at this at this point. As I said, you know, we don't guide beyond the quarter, but, you know, I think if we need to get you know, we've had supported 400 million quarters before, and if we need to, as I said, I think, you know, we are we're very dynamic, flexible manufacturing model, and if we need to ramp some more, we'll do what we need to do to make sure we take care of our customers.

Lester Wong: Well, Dave, I don't see a $450 million run rate at this point. As I said, we don't guide beyond the quarter. I think if we need to, we've had supported $400 million quarters before, and if we need to, as I said, I think we're a very dynamic, flexible manufacturing model. If we need to ramp some more, we'll do what we need to do to make sure we take care of our customers.

Speaker #1: Okay. And then a different topic. Could you just talk a little bit more about your investments that you're making outside the thermal compression bonding and the advanced packaging area like I think you've mentioned hybrid bonding in the past and then also panel level perhaps just talk about what your opportunities are in those two areas?

David Duley: Okay. Then a different topic. Could you just talk a little bit more about your investments that you're making outside the thermal compression bonding in the advanced packaging area? I think you've mentioned hybrid bonding in the past and also panel level. Perhaps just talk about what your opportunities are in those two areas.

Dave Duley: Okay. Then a different topic. Could you just talk a little bit more about your investments that you're making outside the thermal compression bonding in the advanced packaging area? I think you've mentioned hybrid bonding in the past and also panel level. Perhaps just talk about what your opportunities are in those two areas.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So what Dave we're seeing a lot of interest in panel, right? From, you know, customers both sorry, both IDMs as well as the foundry as well as the OSATs.

Lester Wong: Yeah. Dave, we're seeing a lot of interest in panel, right? From customers, both IDMs, as well as the foundry, as well as the OSATs. We are actively engaged with multiple customers on panel. Obviously, panel is the future, just given the geometry, right? You can fit a lot more die in a rectangle than you can in a circle. There is a lot of interest. We are investing significantly in our panel project. Then as far as hybrid bonding is concerned, yes, we also are in hybrid bonding. We have been pretty active. We accelerated the program over the last year. We think our hybrid bonder has some unique features that is not currently in the market. We are planning to deliver a hybrid bonding tool to a customer in the H1 of fiscal 2027.

Speaker #3: We are actively engaged with multiple customers on panel. I mean, obviously, panel is the future. Just given the geometry, right? You can fit a lot more die in a rectangle than you can in a circle.

Speaker #3: So, there is a lot of interest. You know, we are investing significantly in our panel project. And then, as far as hybrid bonding is concerned, yes, you know, we are also in hybrid bonding.

Speaker #3: We have been pretty active. We accelerated the program over the last year. We think our hybrid bonder has some unique features that are not currently in the market.

Speaker #3: So we are planning to deliver a hybrid bonding tool to a customer in the first half of fiscal 27.

Speaker #1: And as far as the panel opportunity, just remind us exactly what you're going to do. Are you going to pick and place die and put them on the interposer, or what exactly will be the application that you're focused on there?

David Duley: As far as the panel opportunity, just remind us exactly what you're going to do. Are you going to pick and place die and put them on the interposer? What exactly will be the application that you're focused in on there?

Dave Duley: As far as the panel opportunity, just remind us exactly what you're going to do. Are you going to pick and place die and put them on the interposer? What exactly will be the application that you're focused in on there?

Speaker #3: Well, I think, Dave, we're right now we're talking to the customer and we're focusing on, you know, multiple applications at the panel level. So I think, you know, as we develop the program, we'll provide more color in our future calls.

Lester Wong: Well, I think, Dave, right now we're talking to the customer, and we're focusing on multiple applications at the panel level. I think, as we develop the program, we'll provide more color in our future calls.

Speaker #1: All right. Thank you and congratulations on a nice quarter.

David Duley: All right. Thank you, and congratulations on a nice quarter.

Dave Duley: All right. Thank you, and congratulations on a nice quarter.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Lester Wong: Thank you.

Speaker #2: There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to Joe for closing remarks.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to Joe for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Sherry, and thank you all for joining today's call. As always, please feel free to follow up directly with any additional questions. This concludes today's call.

Joseph Elgindy: Thank you, Sherry, and thank you all for joining today's call. As always, please feel free to follow up directly with any additional questions. This concludes today's call. Have a great day, everyone.

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