Q4 2026 Resources Connection Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good afternoon, and welcome to RGP's fourth quarter fiscal 2026 conference call. Currently, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time.

Operator: Welcome to RGP's Q4 fiscal 2026 conference call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to remind everyone that management will be commenting on results for the Q4 ended 30 May 2026. They will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. An explanation and reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the press release issued today. Today's press release can be viewed in the investor relations section of RGP's website and filed today with the SEC. Also, during this call, management may make forward-looking statements regarding plans, initiatives, and strategies, and the anticipated financial performance of the company.

Operator: Good afternoon and welcome to RGP's Q4 Fiscal 2026 Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to remind everyone that management will be commenting on results for the Q4 ended 30 May 2026. They will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. An explanation and reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the press release issued today. Today's press release can be viewed in the investor relations section of RGP's website and filed today with the SEC. Also, during this call, management may make forward-looking statements regarding plans, initiatives, and strategies, and the anticipated financial performance of the company.

Speaker #1: As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to remind everyone that management will be commenting on results for the fourth quarter ended May 30, 2026.

Speaker #1: They will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. An explanation and reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the press release issued today.

Speaker #1: Today's press release can be viewed in the Investor Relations section of RGP's website and was filed today with the SEC. Also, during this call, management may make forward-looking statements regarding plans, initiatives, and strategies, as well as the anticipated financial performance of the company.

Speaker #1: Such statements are predictions, and actual events or results may differ materially. Please see the risk factors section in RGP's report on Form 10-K for the year ended May 31, 2025.

Operator: Such statements are predictions. Actual events or results may differ materially. Please see the Risk Factors section in RGP's report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 May 2025, for a discussion of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause the company's business, results of operations, and financial condition to differ materially from what is expressed or implied by forward-looking statements made during this call. Such discussion will also be included in the Risk Factors section in RGP's report on Form 10-K for the year ended 30 May 2026, which is expected to be filed on or around 23 July 2026. I will now turn the call over to RGP's CEO, Roger Carlile.

Operator: Such statements are predictions. Actual events or results may differ materially. Please see the Risk Factors section in RGP's report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 May 2025, for a discussion of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause the company's business, results of operations, and financial condition to differ materially from what is expressed or implied by forward-looking statements made during this call. Such discussion will also be included in the Risk Factors section in RGP's report on Form 10-K for the year ended 30 May 2026, which is expected to be filed on or around 23 July 2026. I will now turn the call over to RGP's CEO, Roger Carlile.

Speaker #1: For a discussion of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause the company's business, results of operations, and financial condition to differ materially from what is expressed or implied by forward-looking statements made during this call,

Speaker #1: Such discussion will also be included in the risk factors section in RGP's report on Form 10-K for the year ended May 30, 2026, which is expected to be filed on or around July 23, 2026.

Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to RGP's CEO, Roger Carlisle.

Speaker #2: Thank you, and welcome everyone to the call. This is my third time speaking with you about our quarterly financial results. I continue to learn about our markets, clients, employees, and services as I work with our leaders to execute our strategy.

Roger Carlile: Thank you. Welcome everyone to the call. This is my third time speaking with you about our quarterly financial results. I continue to learn about our markets, clients, employees, and services as I work with our leaders to execute our strategy. I remain optimistic about the future of our business as market conditions appear to be showing some stability, providing a more consistent backdrop for us to continue activating our strategic priorities and related investments. Consistent with the prior quarter, our Q4 results were aligned with the outlook we provided for revenue, gross margin, and run rate SG&A expense. You will hear more about this later in the call from our CFO, Jenn Ryu. For now, let me touch on market conditions as we see them, results from our recently completed Voice of the Customer survey, and our progress against our strategic priorities.

Roger Carlile: Thank you. Welcome everyone to the call. This is my third time speaking with you about our quarterly financial results. I continue to learn about our markets, clients, employees, and services as I work with our leaders to execute our strategy. I remain optimistic about the future of our business as market conditions appear to be showing some stability, providing a more consistent backdrop for us to continue activating our strategic priorities and related investments. Consistent with the prior quarter, our Q4 results were aligned with the outlook we provided for revenue, gross margin, and run rate SG&A expense. You will hear more about this later in the call from our CFO, Jenn Ryu.

Speaker #2: I remain optimistic about the future of our business, as market conditions appear to be showing some stability, providing a more consistent backdrop for us to continue activating our strategic priorities and related investments.

Speaker #2: Consistent with the prior quarter, our fourth quarter results were aligned with the outlook we provided for revenue, gross margin, and run-rate SG&A expense.

Speaker #2: You will hear more about this later in the call from our CFO, Jennifer Ryu. For now, let me touch on market conditions as we see them.

Roger Carlile: For now, let me touch on market conditions as we see them, results from our recently completed Voice of the Customer survey, and our progress against our strategic priorities. From our perspective, global market conditions remain broadly consistent to the Q3, with some regions and industry sectors showing more progress than others. In the Q4, revenue for our North American markets served by our on-demand talent, consulting, and outsourced services segments performed as we expected compared to the outlook we provided. Compared with the Q3, North America's revenue was flat on a GAAP basis, but did exhibit a modest decline when adjusting for the number of business days and currency fluctuations.

Speaker #2: Results from our recently completed voice of the customer survey and our progress against our strategic priorities. From our perspective, global market conditions remain broadly consistent to the third quarter, with some regions and industry sectors showing more progress than others.

Roger Carlile: From our perspective, global market conditions remain broadly consistent to the Q3, with some regions and industry sectors showing more progress than others. In the Q4, revenue for our North American markets served by our on-demand talent, consulting, and outsourced services segments performed as we expected compared to the outlook we provided. Compared with the Q3, North America's revenue was flat on a GAAP basis, but did exhibit a modest decline when adjusting for the number of business days and currency fluctuations. Revenue in our Europe and Asia-Pacific markets was softer this quarter, driven entirely by weakness in Europe. Our Asia-Pacific markets performed in line with both our outlook for the quarter and the prior quarter's results. The trends we faced in our European markets appear to be non-systemic situations within our specific clients, rather than larger economic or geopolitical issues.

Speaker #2: In the fourth quarter, revenue for our North American markets served by our on-demand talent, consulting, and outsourced services segments performed as we expected compared to the outlook we provided.

Speaker #2: Compared with the third quarter, North America's revenue was flat on a gap basis, but did exhibit a modest decline when adjusting for the number of business days and currency fluctuations.

Speaker #2: Revenue in our Europe and Asia-Pacific markets was softer this quarter, driven entirely by weakness in Europe. Our Asia-Pacific markets performed in line with both our outlook for the quarter and the prior quarter's results.

Roger Carlile: Revenue in our Europe and Asia-Pacific markets was softer this quarter, driven entirely by weakness in Europe. Our Asia-Pacific markets performed in line with both our outlook for the quarter and the prior quarter's results. The trends we faced in our European markets appear to be non-systemic situations within our specific clients, rather than larger economic or geopolitical issues.

Speaker #2: The trends we faced in our European markets appear to be non-systemic situations within our specific clients, rather than larger economic or geopolitical issues. In addition to this operational view of our markets, we very recently completed a Voice of the Customer survey in which we surveyed 500 decision-makers and buyers from customers who are either currently working with RGP or who have worked with RGP in the past several years.

Roger Carlile: In addition to this operational view of our markets, we very recently completed a Voice of the Customer survey in which we surveyed 500 decision-makers and buyers from customers who are either currently working with RGP or who have worked with RGP in the past several years. We undertook this survey to ensure we anchor our strategy and investments in market reality, moving from assumptions to data-driven decisions that support our strategic priorities to drive growth, client retention, and differentiation. This survey allows us to understand how clients truly perceive RGP in terms of delivering differentiated value, being prepared to meet their stated needs in the areas of finance, technology, and operations, and how we compare to the competitive alternatives.

Roger Carlile: In addition to this operational view of our markets, we very recently completed a Voice of the Customer survey in which we surveyed 500 decision-makers and buyers from customers who are either currently working with RGP or who have worked with RGP in the past several years. We undertook this survey to ensure we anchor our strategy and investments in market reality, moving from assumptions to data-driven decisions that support our strategic priorities to drive growth, client retention, and differentiation. This survey allows us to understand how clients truly perceive RGP in terms of delivering differentiated value, being prepared to meet their stated needs in the areas of finance, technology, and operations, and how we compare to the competitive alternatives.

Speaker #2: We undertook this survey to ensure we anchor our strategy and investments in market reality, moving from assumptions to data-driven decisions that support our strategic priorities to drive growth, client retention, and differentiation.

Speaker #2: This survey allows us to understand how clients truly perceive RGP in terms of delivering differentiated value, being prepared to meet their stated needs in the areas of finance, technology, and operations, and how we compare to the competitive alternatives.

Speaker #2: While we've only just begun to analyze this data, some important perspectives are already clear, including RGP being rated stronger head-to-head with other execution and staffing-focused competitors, but still having work to do against larger traditional consultancies.

Roger Carlile: While we've only just begun to analyze this data, some important perspectives are already clear, including RGP being rated stronger head-to-head with other execution and staffing-focused competitors, but still having work to do against larger traditional consultancies. The top theme for why clients choose RGP include trusted partnership, speed of execution, flexibility of delivery model, and the quality of our people and services. While there is a spectrum of data points for us to examine and act upon, we can take pride in having a strong Net Promoter Score, with 95% of our customers indicating their intent to increase or maintain their level of engagement with RGP. Given the relative stability in our markets and the early understandings from our customer survey, we continue to focus on our strategic priorities. These priorities are, one, refocusing our on-demand talent segment offerings. Two, scaling our consulting segment.

Roger Carlile: While we've only just begun to analyze this data, some important perspectives are already clear, including RGP being rated stronger head-to-head with other execution and staffing-focused competitors, but still having work to do against larger traditional consultancies. The top theme for why clients choose RGP include trusted partnership, speed of execution, flexibility of delivery model, and the quality of our people and services. While there is a spectrum of data points for us to examine and act upon, we can take pride in having a strong Net Promoter Score, with 95% of our customers indicating their intent to increase or maintain their level of engagement with RGP. Given the relative stability in our markets and the early understandings from our customer survey, we continue to focus on our strategic priorities. These priorities are, one, refocusing our on-demand talent segment offerings.

Speaker #2: The top themes for why clients choose RGP include trusted partnership, speed of execution, flexibility of delivery model, and the quality of our people and services.

Speaker #2: And while there is a spectrum of data points for us to examine and act upon, we can take pride in having a strong net promoter score, with 95% of our customers indicating their intent to increase or maintain their level of engagement with RGP.

Speaker #2: Given the relative stability in our markets and the early understandings from our customer survey, we continue to focus on our strategic priorities. These priorities are: one, refocusing our on-demand talent segment offerings; two, scaling our consulting segment; three, pursuing AI as both a client service and an internal opportunity; and four, streamlining our operations to align our levels.

Roger Carlile: Two, scaling our consulting segment. Three, pursuing AI as both a client service and an internal opportunity. Four, streamlining our operations to align our cost structure with our revenue levels. In Q4, we made additional focused investments to support these priorities, and we continue to expect these and the investments we made in Q3 to drive revenue growth as they mature through their anticipated ramp-up period. In terms of refocusing our on-demand talent segment and scaling our consulting segment, we made additional investments during the quarter, which we expect to drive future revenue growth. These include adding seven new professionals to our sales team, as well as adding additional senior professionals to our consulting segment.

Roger Carlile: Three, pursuing AI as both a client service and an internal opportunity. Four, streamlining our operations to align our cost structure with our revenue levels. In Q4, we made additional focused investments to support these priorities, and we continue to expect these and the investments we made in Q3 to drive revenue growth as they mature through their anticipated ramp-up period. In terms of refocusing our on-demand talent segment and scaling our consulting segment, we made additional investments during the quarter, which we expect to drive future revenue growth. These include adding seven new professionals to our sales team, as well as adding additional senior professionals to our consulting segment. While we will continue to take advantage of opportunities to invest behind these priorities, we have completed the initially planned level of investment to support our business goals for fiscal year 2027.

Speaker #2: In the fourth quarter, we made additional focused investments to support these priorities, and we continue to expect these and the investments we made in the third quarter to drive revenue growth as they mature through their anticipated ramp-up period.

Speaker #2: In terms of refocusing our on-demand talent segment and scaling our consulting segment, we made additional investments during the quarter, which we expect to drive future revenue growth.

Speaker #2: These include adding seven new professionals to our sales team, as well as adding additional senior professionals to our consulting segment. While we will continue to take advantage of opportunities to invest behind these priorities, we have completed the initially planned level of investment to support our business goals for fiscal year 2027.

Roger Carlile: While we will continue to take advantage of opportunities to invest behind these priorities, we have completed the initially planned level of investment to support our business goals for fiscal year 2027.

Speaker #2: AI remains an important strategic priority for RGP. We see AI fundamentally changing how work gets done across finance, risk, technology, and transformation, creating new opportunities for both our clients and our business.

Roger Carlile: AI remains an important strategic priority for RGP. We see AI fundamentally changing how work gets done across finance, risk, technology, and transformation, creating new opportunities for both our clients and our business. Our approach is practical and disciplined, helping our own teams use AI to improve productivity and accelerate delivery while building AI-enabled solutions, talent, and partnerships that address our clients' highest value business challenges. We believe the greatest value will come from combining AI with deep functional expertise and strong governance, enabling clients to adopt AI responsibly while delivering measurable business outcomes. Regarding our goals of simplifying how we operate and aligning our cost structure to our current revenue levels, those two activities are becoming increasingly intertwined as the simplifications we are implementing increasingly involve both process and technology modifications, which have longer implementation periods.

Roger Carlile: AI remains an important strategic priority for RGP. We see AI fundamentally changing how work gets done across finance, risk, technology, and transformation, creating new opportunities for both our clients and our business. Our approach is practical and disciplined, helping our own teams use AI to improve productivity and accelerate delivery while building AI-enabled solutions, talent, and partnerships that address our clients' highest value business challenges. We believe the greatest value will come from combining AI with deep functional expertise and strong governance, enabling clients to adopt AI responsibly while delivering measurable business outcomes. Regarding our goals of simplifying how we operate and aligning our cost structure to our current revenue levels, those two activities are becoming increasingly intertwined as the simplifications we are implementing increasingly involve both process and technology modifications, which have longer implementation periods.

Speaker #2: Our approach is practical and disciplined, helping our own teams use AI to improve productivity and accelerate delivery while building AI-enabled solutions, talent, and partnerships that address our clients' highest value business challenges.

Speaker #2: We believe the greatest value will come from combining AI with deep functional expertise and strong governance. Enabling clients to adopt AI responsibly while delivering measurable business outcomes.

Speaker #2: Regarding our goals of simplifying how we operate and aligning our cost structure to our current revenue levels, those two activities are becoming increasingly intertwined, as the simplifications we are implementing increasingly involve both process and technology modifications, which have longer implementation periods.

Speaker #2: While we have additional cost reduction initiatives planned for fiscal year 2027, our focus is increasingly shifting towards simplifying how we go to market, how we serve our clients, and how we operate through more streamlined processes and technology.

Roger Carlile: While we have additional cost reduction initiatives planned for the fiscal year 2027, our focus is increasingly shifting towards simplifying how we go to market, how we serve our clients, and how we operate through more streamlined processes and technology. With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Jenn Ryu.

Roger Carlile: While we have additional cost reduction initiatives planned for the fiscal year 2027, our focus is increasingly shifting towards simplifying how we go to market, how we serve our clients, and how we operate through more streamlined processes and technology. With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Jenn Ryu.

Speaker #2: With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Jennifer Ryu.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Roger, and good afternoon, everyone. Our performance in the fourth quarter was largely in line with expectations. Consolidated revenue and run-rate SG&A expense were both within our outlook ranges, while gross margins beat the high end of the range.

Jenn Ryu: Thanks, Roger. Good afternoon, everyone. Our performance in Q4 was largely in line with expectations. Consolidated revenue and run rate SG&A expense were both within our outlook ranges, while growth margins beat the high end of the range. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was -$0.6 million. Starting with revenue, consolidated revenue for the quarter was $106.1 million, representing an 18.3% decline on a same-day constant currency basis compared to the prior year quarter. Revenues in the on-demand talent and consulting segment were largely in line with our expectations. However, down from Q3 on a same-day basis, reflecting timing of project activity within an otherwise stable demand environment in North America. Our focus remains on accelerating the ramp of recently hired go-to-market professionals and strengthening sales execution under our new sales leadership team to improve pipeline generation and conversion.

Jenn Ryu: Thanks, Roger. Good afternoon, everyone. Our performance in Q4 was largely in line with expectations. Consolidated revenue and run rate SG&A expense were both within our outlook ranges, while growth margins beat the high end of the range. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was -$0.6 million. Starting with revenue, consolidated revenue for the quarter was $106.1 million, representing an 18.3% decline on a same-day constant currency basis compared to the prior year quarter. Revenues in the on-demand talent and consulting segment were largely in line with our expectations. However, down from Q3 on a same-day basis, reflecting timing of project activity within an otherwise stable demand environment in North America. Our focus remains on accelerating the ramp of recently hired go-to-market professionals and strengthening sales execution under our new sales leadership team to improve pipeline generation and conversion.

Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was negative $0.6 million. Starting with revenue, consolidated revenue for the quarter was $106.1 million, representing an 18.3% decline on a same-day constant currency basis compared to the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: Revenues in the on-demand talent and consulting segment were largely in line with our expectations; however, they were down from the third quarter on a same-day basis, reflecting the timing of project activity within an otherwise stable demand environment in North America.

Speaker #3: Our focus remains on accelerating the ramp of recently hired go-to-market professionals and strengthening sales execution under our new sales leadership team to improve pipeline generation and conversion.

Speaker #3: In the Europe and Asia-Pacific segment, the Asia-Pac region delivered solid revenue performance in the quarter, including year-over-year and sequential growth in China and the Philippines.

Jenn Ryu: In the Europe and Asia Pacific segment, the Asia Pacific region delivered solid revenue performance in the quarter, including year-over-year and sequential growth in China and the Philippines. While Europe continued to experience some choppiness in the timing of projects at several large clients, which weighed on segment revenue for the quarter. Our outsourced services segment continued to perform steadily, generating stable year-over-year results and sequential growth. Turning to gross margin. Gross margin for Q4 was 37.6% compared to 40.2% in the prior year, primarily reflecting less favorable leverage of indirect cost of services and lower consulting utilization. Enterprise-wide average bill rate was $120 on a constant currency basis compared to $125 a year ago, with results reflecting the geographic mix of revenue during the quarter, including a greater contribution from the Asia Pacific region. At the segment level, average bill rates in our North America segments remained strong.

Jenn Ryu: In the Europe and Asia Pacific segment, the Asia Pacific region delivered solid revenue performance in the quarter, including year-over-year and sequential growth in China and the Philippines. While Europe continued to experience some choppiness in the timing of projects at several large clients, which weighed on segment revenue for the quarter. Our outsourced services segment continued to perform steadily, generating stable year-over-year results and sequential growth. Turning to gross margin. Gross margin for Q4 was 37.6% compared to 40.2% in the prior year, primarily reflecting less favorable leverage of indirect cost of services and lower consulting utilization. Enterprise-wide average bill rate was $120 on a constant currency basis compared to $125 a year ago, with results reflecting the geographic mix of revenue during the quarter, including a greater contribution from the Asia Pacific region.

Speaker #3: While Europe continued to experience some choppiness in the timing of projects at several large clients, which weighed on segment revenue for the quarter, our Outsourced Services segment continued to perform steadily, generating stable year-over-year results and sequential growth.

Speaker #3: Turning to gross margin, gross margin for the fourth quarter was 37.6%, compared to 40.2% in the prior year, primarily reflecting less favorable leverage of indirect cost of services and lower consulting utilization.

Speaker #3: Enterprise-wide average bill rate was $120 on a constant currency basis, compared to $125 a year ago, with results reflecting the geographic mix of revenue during the quarter, including a greater contribution from the Asia-Pacific region.

Speaker #3: At the segment level, average bill rates in our North America segments remained strong. On-demand talent's average bill rate grew to $145 from $143 a year ago, while consulting's average bill rate grew to $163 from $159.

Jenn Ryu: At the segment level, average bill rates in our North America segments remained strong. On-demand talent average bill rate grew to $145 from $143 a year ago, while consulting's average bill rate grew to $163 from $159. In Europe and Asia Pacific, the average bill rate was $57 compared to $64 last year on a constant currency basis, again, largely reflecting a higher proportion of revenue generated in Asia Pacific relative to Europe. Now on to SG&A. Q4 run rate SG&A expense was $40.5 million, a 12% improvement compared to $46.2 million in the prior year quarter. This year-over-year improvement reflects the benefit of the cost actions we have executed over the past fiscal year.

Jenn Ryu: On-demand talent average bill rate grew to $145 from $143 a year ago, while consulting's average bill rate grew to $163 from $159. In Europe and Asia Pacific, the average bill rate was $57 compared to $64 last year on a constant currency basis, again, largely reflecting a higher proportion of revenue generated in Asia Pacific relative to Europe. Now on to SG&A. Q4 run rate SG&A expense was $40.5 million, a 12% improvement compared to $46.2 million in the prior year quarter. This year-over-year improvement reflects the benefit of the cost actions we have executed over the past fiscal year. During the quarter, we took additional steps to simplify our business and further reduce cost structure, including the divestiture of Sitrick and continued resource alignment to the current revenue level.

Speaker #3: In Europe and Asia-Pacific, the average bill rate was $57, compared to $64 last year on a constant currency basis, again largely reflecting a higher proportion of revenue generated in Asia-Pacific relative to Europe.

Speaker #3: Now, onto SG&A. Fourth quarter run-rate SG&A expense was $40.5 million, a 12% improvement compared to $46.2 million in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: This year-over-year improvement reflects the benefit of the cost actions we have executed over the past fiscal year. During the quarter, we took additional steps to simplify our business and further reduce our cost structure, including the divestiture of Citric and continued resource alignment to the current revenue level.

Jenn Ryu: During the quarter, we took additional steps to simplify our business and further reduce cost structure, including the divestiture of Sitrick and continued resource alignment to the current revenue level. Non-run rate SG&A expense totaled $14.1 million, of which $6.4 million was non-cash and $7.7 million was cash expenditures related primarily to the Sitrick divestiture and employee termination costs, including those related to the COO transition. With significant cost actions now largely complete, we will remain focused on additional opportunities to improve efficiency over time. In addition, we have begun reallocating capital toward targeted investments in go-to-market leadership, sales capacity, and client-facing capabilities that can support stronger revenue generation over time. We will continue to deploy capital with discipline, balancing growth opportunities with cost management. Now turning to segment performance.

Jenn Ryu: Non-run rate SG&A expense totaled $14.1 million, of which $6.4 million was non-cash and $7.7 million was cash expenditures related primarily to the Sitrick divestiture and employee termination costs, including those related to the COO transition. With significant cost actions now largely complete, we will remain focused on additional opportunities to improve efficiency over time. In addition, we have begun reallocating capital toward targeted investments in go-to-market leadership, sales capacity, and client-facing capabilities that can support stronger revenue generation over time. We will continue to deploy capital with discipline, balancing growth opportunities with cost management. Now turning to segment performance. As a reminder, Q4 of FY 2026 contained one less week compared to Q4 of FY 2025. All year-over-year revenue comparisons are adjusted for business days and currency impact, and segment Adjusted EBITDA excludes certain share of corporate costs.

Speaker #3: Non-run rate SG&A expense totaled $14.1 million, of which $6.4 million was non-cash and $7.7 million was cash expenditures related primarily to the Citric divestiture and employee termination costs, including those related to the COO transition.

Speaker #3: With significant cost actions now largely complete, we will remain focused on additional opportunities to improve efficiency over time. In addition, we have begun reallocating capital toward targeted investments in go-to-market leadership, sales capacity, and client-facing capabilities that can support stronger revenue generation over time.

Speaker #3: We will continue to deploy capital with discipline, balancing growth opportunities with cost management. Now, turning to segment performance. As a reminder, the fourth quarter of fiscal '26 contained one less week compared to Q4 of fiscal '25.

Jenn Ryu: As a reminder, Q4 of FY 2026 contained one less week compared to Q4 of FY 2025. All year-over-year revenue comparisons are adjusted for business days and currency impact, and segment Adjusted EBITDA excludes certain share of corporate costs. On-demand talent revenue was $40.4 million, a decline of 18% from the prior year quarter. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $3.1 million, or a 7.6% margin, compared to $6.4 million, or a 12.1% margin in the prior year quarter. Consulting revenue was $36.6 million, down 23% year-over-year, which continues to pressure utilization and therefore gross margin and segment EBITDA. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $2.3 million, or a 6.3% margin, compared to $8.3 million, or a 16.3% margin in the prior year quarter. Europe and Asia Pacific revenue was $17.1 million, down 14% year-over-year.

Speaker #3: All year-over-year revenue comparisons are adjusted for business days and currency impact, and segment-adjusted EBITDA excludes certain shared corporate costs. On-demand talent revenue was $40.4 million, a decline of 18% from the prior year quarter. Segment-adjusted EBITDA was $3.1 million, or a 7.6% margin, compared to $6.4 million, or a 12.1% margin in the prior year quarter.

Jenn Ryu: On-demand talent revenue was $40.4 million, a decline of 18% from the prior year quarter. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $3.1 million, or a 7.6% margin, compared to $6.4 million, or a 12.1% margin in the prior year quarter. Consulting revenue was $36.6 million, down 23% year-over-year, which continues to pressure utilization and therefore gross margin and segment EBITDA. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $2.3 million, or a 6.3% margin, compared to $8.3 million, or a 16.3% margin in the prior year quarter. Europe and Asia Pacific revenue was $17.1 million, down 14% year-over-year. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $0.4 million or 2.1% margin, compared to $1.9 million or 9% margin in the prior year quarter. Outsourced services revenue was $10.3 million, down 1.6% year-over-year. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $2.1 million or a 20.2% margin, compared to $3.1 million or 27.8% in the prior year quarter. Turning to liquidity, our balance sheet remains strong.

Speaker #3: Consulting revenue was $36.6 million, down 23% year-over-year, which continued to pressure utilization and therefore gross margin and segment EBITDA. Segment-adjusted EBITDA was $2.3 million, or a 6.3% margin, compared to $8.3 million, or a 16.3% margin, in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: Europe and Asia-Pacific revenue was $17.1 million, down 14% year-over-year. Segment-adjusted EBITDA was $0.4 million, or a 2.1% margin, compared to $1.9 million, or a 9% margin in the prior year quarter.

Jenn Ryu: Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $0.4 million or 2.1% margin, compared to $1.9 million or 9% margin in the prior year quarter. Outsourced services revenue was $10.3 million, down 1.6% year-over-year. Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $2.1 million or a 20.2% margin, compared to $3.1 million or 27.8% in the prior year quarter. Turning to liquidity, our balance sheet remains strong.

Speaker #3: Outsourced services revenue was $10.3 million, down 1.6% year-over-year. Segment-adjusted EBITDA was $2.1 million, or a 20.2% margin, compared to $3.1 million, or 27.8%, in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: Turning to liquidity, our balance sheet remained strong. We ended the quarter with $82.4 million of cash and cash equivalents, with no outstanding debt. Quarterly dividend payments totaled $2.3 million, representing a 6% annualized yield based on our stock price at the end of the fourth quarter.

Jenn Ryu: We ended the quarter with $82.4 million of cash and cash equivalents with no outstanding debt. Quarterly dividend payments totaled $2.3 million, representing a 6% annualized yield based on our stock price at the end of Q4. Just last week, we replaced our previous credit facility with a new revolving credit facility designed to provide increased flexibility within our covenant structure and better aligned to our capital needs. With our cash position and available borrowing capacity under our new credit facility, we will continue to take a balanced approach to capital allocation, investing in the business to support long-term growth while returning capital to shareholders through dividends and opportunistic share repurchases. At quarter end, $79.2 million remains available under our share repurchase program. I'll now conclude with our outlook for Q1 of FY 2027.

Jenn Ryu: We ended the quarter with $82.4 million of cash and cash equivalents with no outstanding debt. Quarterly dividend payments totaled $2.3 million, representing a 6% annualized yield based on our stock price at the end of Q4. Just last week, we replaced our previous credit facility with a new revolving credit facility designed to provide increased flexibility within our covenant structure and better aligned to our capital needs. With our cash position and available borrowing capacity under our new credit facility, we will continue to take a balanced approach to capital allocation, investing in the business to support long-term growth while returning capital to shareholders through dividends and opportunistic share repurchases. At quarter end, $79.2 million remains available under our share repurchase program. I'll now conclude with our outlook for Q1 of FY 2027.

Speaker #3: Just last week, we replaced our previous credit facility with a new revolving credit facility, designed to provide increased flexibility within our covenant structure and better align to our capital needs.

Speaker #3: With our cash position and available borrowing capacity under our new credit facility, we will continue to take a balanced approach to capital allocation—investing in the business to support long-term growth, while returning capital to shareholders through dividends and opportunistic share repurchases.

Speaker #3: At quarter-end, $79.2 million remained available under our share repurchase program. I'll now conclude with our outlook for the first quarter of fiscal '27.

Speaker #3: We expect first quarter revenue to be relatively consistent with fourth quarter levels. Adjusting for normal summer seasonality and the impact of the Citric divestiture, as a result, we expect revenue in the range of $97 to $102 million.

Jenn Ryu: We expect Q1 revenue to be relatively consistent with Q4 levels, adjusting for normal summer seasonality and the impact of the Sitrick divestiture. As a result, we expect revenue in the range of $97 to $102 million. We expect gross margin to be in between 37% to 38%, also reflecting typical seasonal dynamics in the quarter. Run rate SG&A expense is expected to be in the range of $41 to $43 million, which reflects the targeted reinvestments we've made in the business. Non-run rate and non-cash expense are expected to range from $2 to $3 million and consist primarily of non-cash stock compensation expense and amortization of capitalized system transformation costs. In closing, we made meaningful progress in FY 2026, aligning our cost structure, strengthening the organization, and investing in key growth priorities.

Jenn Ryu: We expect Q1 revenue to be relatively consistent with Q4 levels, adjusting for normal summer seasonality and the impact of the Sitrick divestiture. As a result, we expect revenue in the range of $97 to $102 million. We expect gross margin to be in between 37% to 38%, also reflecting typical seasonal dynamics in the quarter. Run rate SG&A expense is expected to be in the range of $41 to $43 million, which reflects the targeted reinvestments we've made in the business. Non-run rate and non-cash expense are expected to range from $2 to $3 million and consist primarily of non-cash stock compensation expense and amortization of capitalized system transformation costs. In closing, we made meaningful progress in FY 2026, aligning our cost structure, strengthening the organization, and investing in key growth priorities.

Speaker #3: We expect gross margin to be between 37% and 38%, also reflecting typical seasonal dynamics in the quarter. Run-rate SG&A expense is expected to be in the range of $41 million to $43 million, which reflects a targeted reinvestment we've made in the business.

Speaker #3: Non-run rate and non-cash expenses are expected to range from $2 million to $3 million, and consist primarily of non-cash stock compensation expense and amortization of capitalized system transformation costs.

Speaker #3: In closing, we made meaningful progress in fiscal '26, aligning our cost structure, strengthening the organization, and investing in key growth priorities. With a strong balance sheet and an improving operational foundation, we believe we are well positioned to execute more consistently and create long-term shareholder value.

Jenn Ryu: With a strong balance sheet and improving operational foundation, we believe we are well positioned to execute more consistently and create long-term shareholder value. With that, we'll conclude our prepared remarks and open the call for questions.

Jenn Ryu: With a strong balance sheet and improving operational foundation, we believe we are well positioned to execute more consistently and create long-term shareholder value. With that, we'll conclude our prepared remarks and open the call for questions.

Speaker #3: With that, we'll conclude our prepared remarks and open the call for questions.

Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press *11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press *11 again.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. You may proceed.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. You may proceed.

Speaker #1: One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. You may proceed.

Speaker #4: Good afternoon.

Joe Gomes: Good afternoon.

Joe Gomes: Good afternoon.

Jenn Ryu: Good afternoon.

Jenn Ryu: Good afternoon.

Speaker #5: Good afternoon.

Roger Carlile: Good afternoon.

Roger Carlile: Good afternoon.

Speaker #6: Good afternoon.

Speaker #4: Roger, I just want to make sure I got the four priorities that you talked about. You've talked about them here for the past couple of quarters. As you look at them today, how far along would you say, or how close to completion are you on each one of the four?

Joe Gomes: Roger, I was wondering, you got the four priorities that you talked about, you've talked about here for the past couple of quarters. If you look at them today, how far along would you say or how close to completion are you on each one of the four? What kind of percent done, I guess, for each one of the four are you at?

Joe Gomes: Roger, I was wondering, you got the four priorities that you talked about, you've talked about here for the past couple of quarters. If you look at them today, how far along would you say or how close to completion are you on each one of the four? What kind of percent done, I guess, for each one of the four are you at?

Speaker #4: What percentage done, I guess, are you at for each one of the four?

Speaker #6: Yeah. Well, thank you for that question. I think—I mean, we're going to—most of those things, frankly, never stop. But in terms of thinking of them as seasons or innings or something like that, I think I mentioned in my comments at the beginning of the call that for FY '27, we are basically complete with those investments.

Roger Carlile: Well, thank you for that question. Most of those things, frankly, never stop. In terms of thinking of them as seasons or innings or something like that, I think I mentioned in my comments at the beginning of the call that for FY 2027, we are basically complete with those investments. Now we need to see those pay off. We expect that to occur in the latter half of the year. Every day, we would hope that it improve, but we think the ramp-up period pushes some of that result to the last half of the year. It doesn't mean that we won't see some opportunistic opportunities to invest in each of those areas as we go along. In terms of what we were doing to get ready for 2027, we are, for the most part, complete with that.

Roger Carlile: Well, thank you for that question. Most of those things, frankly, never stop. In terms of thinking of them as seasons or innings or something like that, I think I mentioned in my comments at the beginning of the call that for FY 2027, we are basically complete with those investments. Now we need to see those pay off. We expect that to occur in the latter half of the year. Every day, we would hope that it improve, but we think the ramp-up period pushes some of that result to the last half of the year. It doesn't mean that we won't see some opportunistic opportunities to invest in each of those areas as we go along. In terms of what we were doing to get ready for 2027, we are, for the most part, complete with that.

Speaker #6: Now we need to see those pay off. We expect that to occur in the latter half of the year. I mean, every day we would hope that it improved, but we think the ramp-up period pushes some of that result to the last half of the year.

Speaker #6: It doesn't mean that we won't see some opportunistic opportunities to invest in each of those areas as we go along. But in terms of what we were doing to get ready for '27, we are, for the most part, complete with that.

Speaker #4: Okay, thank you for that. And I know you did the survey, and it's early days there in getting all the data analyzed. But when you sit here today, what gives you confidence that the demand environment has stabilized and that we should hopefully see some improvement here in '27?

Joe Gomes: Okay. Thank you for that. I know you did the survey and it's early days there in getting all the data analyzed, but when you sit here today, what kind of gives you confidence that the demand environment has stabilized, and we should hopefully see some improvement here in 2027?

Joe Gomes: Okay. Thank you for that. I know you did the survey and it's early days there in getting all the data analyzed, but when you sit here today, what kind of gives you confidence that the demand environment has stabilized, and we should hopefully see some improvement here in 2027?

Speaker #6: Well, I think we're trying to point to that in our commentary. I think, operationally, we see that the markets seem to be somewhat stable.

Roger Carlile: Well, I think we were trying to point to that in our commentary. I think operationally, we see that the markets seem to be somewhat stable. I think because you have to look at everything we look at for the markets, maybe we're not perfect competitors. We're not in every little sector the way every one other competitor is. When we look at the markets, we see stability there. That makes me feel good. We just look at our own results. I think they're, the last quarter to this quarter, fairly stable. Yes, the seasonality, it'll look a little down, but I think the activity seems stable heading into Q1 of FY '27. I think that stability helps us feel like perhaps we're nearing a bottom of that kind of market activity-driven downdraft.

Roger Carlile: Well, I think we were trying to point to that in our commentary. I think operationally, we see that the markets seem to be somewhat stable. I think because you have to look at everything we look at for the markets, maybe we're not perfect competitors. We're not in every little sector the way every one other competitor is. When we look at the markets, we see stability there. That makes me feel good. We just look at our own results. I think they're, the last quarter to this quarter, fairly stable. Yes, the seasonality, it'll look a little down, but I think the activity seems stable heading into Q1 of FY '27. I think that stability helps us feel like perhaps we're nearing a bottom of that kind of market activity-driven downdraft.

Speaker #6: I think because we have to look at everything we look at for the markets, maybe we're not perfect competitors. We're not in every little sector the way every other competitor is.

Speaker #6: But when we look at the markets, we see stability there. That makes me feel good. We just look at our own results—I think they're, from last quarter to this quarter, fairly stable.

Speaker #6: Yes, the seasonality—it'll look a little down, but I think the activity seems stable heading into the first quarter of '27.

Speaker #6: So I think that stability helps us feel like perhaps we're nearing the bottom of that kind of market activity-driven downdraft. And then the survey that we did—our customers appreciate us, think of us highly, and said they intend to—95 percent intend to engage with us at the same or higher levels.

Roger Carlile: The survey that we did, our customers appreciate us, think of us highly, and said they intend to, 95% intend to engage with us at the same or higher levels. That all makes me feel good, and there's only one thing it doesn't, which is that sounds really good, why aren't we killing it, right? I think our expectation is the reason we're not killing it yet is we have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of investments that we need to start paying off later in this year.

Roger Carlile: The survey that we did, our customers appreciate us, think of us highly, and said they intend to, 95% intend to engage with us at the same or higher levels. That all makes me feel good, and there's only one thing it doesn't, which is that sounds really good, why aren't we killing it, right? I think our expectation is the reason we're not killing it yet is we have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of investments that we need to start paying off later in this year.

Speaker #6: So that all makes me feel good. And there's only one thing it does—it sounds really good. So why aren't we killing it, right?

Speaker #6: So I think our expectation is, the reason we're not killing it yet is we have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of investments that we need to start paying off later in this year.

Speaker #4: Okay. And one last question. You talked about some additional cost reductions planned for '27. I don't know if you can give us a little more color on that.

Joe Gomes: Okay. One last one from me, I'll get back in queue. You talked about some additional cost reductions planned for FY '27. Maybe give us a little more color on that. Are you planning on taking some more charges in FY '27 on the cost out?

Joe Gomes: Okay. One last one from me, I'll get back in queue. You talked about some additional cost reductions planned for FY '27. Maybe give us a little more color on that. Are you planning on taking some more charges in FY '27 on the cost out?

Speaker #4: Are you planning on taking some more charges in '27 on the cost out?

Speaker #6: Jen could probably answer that more clearly. But I think, for the things that I'm speaking about there, yes, there'll be a little bit more cost takeout and charge related to that, I believe.

Roger Carlile: Jenn could probably answer it more clearly on that. I think for the things that I'm speaking about there, yes, there'll be a little bit more cost takeout and charge related to that, I believe.

Roger Carlile: Jenn could probably answer it more clearly on that. I think for the things that I'm speaking about there, yes, there'll be a little bit more cost takeout and charge related to that, I believe.

Speaker #5: Yeah. Joe, we're going to continue to—we're always, right, looking at our resources against capacity and demand in the business. And there are still some occupancy costs that we're planning to take out.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. Joe, we're always looking at our resources against capacity and demand in the business. There are still some occupancy costs that we're planning to take out. As Roger mentioned in his remarks, the size of the cost takeout is going to be less significant than what we've done this fiscal year. The additional cost takeout will require more work as we're looking at our systems and looking at ways in which AI can help us become more efficient. That's going to take a little bit of time. Overall, the one-time charge, we're expecting our non-run rate charges in fiscal 2027 to be kind of normalized. I guided $2 to $3 million of non-run rate, non-cash charge for Q1. I expect that we won't deviate too much from that for the rest of the year.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. Joe, we're always looking at our resources against capacity and demand in the business. There are still some occupancy costs that we're planning to take out. As Roger mentioned in his remarks, the size of the cost takeout is going to be less significant than what we've done this fiscal year. The additional cost takeout will require more work as we're looking at our systems and looking at ways in which AI can help us become more efficient. That's going to take a little bit of time. Overall, the one-time charge, we're expecting our non-run rate charges in fiscal 2027 to be kind of normalized. I guided $2 to $3 million of non-run rate, non-cash charge for Q1. I expect that we won't deviate too much from that for the rest of the year.

Speaker #5: So, as Roger mentioned in his remarks, the size of the cost takeout is going to be less significant than what we've done this fiscal year.

Speaker #5: And the additional cost takeout will require more work, right, as we're looking at our systems and looking at ways in which AI can help us become more efficient.

Speaker #5: And so that's going to take a little bit of time. But overall, the one-time charge—we're expecting our non-run-rate charges in fiscal '27 to be kind of normalized.

Speaker #5: I guided $2 to $3 million of non-run-rate, non-cash charge for Q1. So I expect that we won't deviate too much from that for the rest of the year.

Speaker #4: Okay, great. Thanks. I'll get back in the queue.

Joe Gomes: Okay, great. Thanks, Roger. Back in queue.

Joe Gomes: Okay, great. Thanks, Roger. Back in queue.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Joe.

Jenn Ryu: Thanks, Joe.

Jenn Ryu: Thanks, Joe.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Roger Carlile: Thank you.

Roger Carlile: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird. You may proceed.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird. You may proceed.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird. You may proceed.

Mark Marcon: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Jenn, just one quick numbers question.

Mark Marcon: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Jenn, just one quick numbers question.

Speaker #7: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So, Jen, just one quick numbers question. On the SG&A of $41 to $43 million, that is exclusive of the $2 to $3 million of non-run rate charges?

Mark Marcon: On the SG&A of $41 to $43 million, that is exclusive of the $2 to $3 million of non-run rate charges?

Mark Marcon: On the SG&A of $41 to $43 million, that is exclusive of the $2 to $3 million of non-run rate charges?

Speaker #5: Yes. That's correct.

Jenn Ryu: Yes, that's correct.

Jenn Ryu: Yes, that's correct.

Speaker #7: Okay. And what sort of covenants do you have on your new credit facility?

Mark Marcon: What sort of covenants do you have on your new credit facility?

Mark Marcon: What sort of covenants do you have on your new credit facility?

Jenn Ryu: Actually, we entered into this new facility. Really the goal was to provide us more flexibility with the way we can use our cash, especially with respect to restricted cash payment to, so that's shareholder returns, in terms of dividend and share repurchases. It's going to give us a lot more flexibility. Outside of that, we have the typical covenants, restriction on investments and loans and indebtedness and so on and so forth. The two main financial covenants were a fixed charge coverage ratio and a minimum liquidity ratio. The fixed charge coverage ratio is a springing covenant, so we actually don't expect that to come into play at all.

Jenn Ryu: Actually, we entered into this new facility. Really the goal was to provide us more flexibility with the way we can use our cash, especially with respect to restricted cash payment to, so that's shareholder returns, in terms of dividend and share repurchases. It's going to give us a lot more flexibility. Outside of that, we have the typical covenants, restriction on investments and loans and indebtedness and so on and so forth. The two main financial covenants were a fixed charge coverage ratio and a minimum liquidity ratio. The fixed charge coverage ratio is a springing covenant, so we actually don't expect that to come into play at all.

Speaker #5: We actually—we entered into this new facility—really the goal was to provide us more flexibility with the way we can use our cash, especially with respect to restricted cash payment too. So that's shareholder returns, right, in terms of dividend and share repurchases.

Speaker #5: That so it's really is going to give us a lot more flexibility. And we have outside of that, we have the typical covenants, restriction on investments and loans and indebtedness and so on and so forth.

Speaker #5: The two main financial covenants were a fixed charge coverage ratio and a minimum liquidity ratio. The fixed charge coverage ratio is a springing covenant.

Speaker #5: So, we actually don't expect that to come into play at all.

Speaker #7: Yeah. Hopefully.

Mark Marcon: Yeah. Hopefully.

Mark Marcon: Yeah. Hopefully.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah.

Speaker #5: Yeah.

Mark Marcon: Hopefully not. Okay, great. Roger, I know this is only your third conference call, and you're trying to turn things around. I was just wondering, can you talk a little bit about some of the things that you talked about last quarter? We had Prashant Lamba come in, we had Jessica Block come in. What are you seeing there? What's the progress in terms of the Central US? You came into a rough situation, so fully recognize that. I was just wondering, on the new changes that you've made, what sort of progress have you seen?

Mark Marcon: Hopefully not. Okay, great. Roger, I know this is only your third conference call, and you're trying to turn things around. I was just wondering, can you talk a little bit about some of the things that you talked about last quarter? We had Prashant Lamba come in, we had Jessica Block come in. What are you seeing there? What's the progress in terms of the Central US? You came into a rough situation, so fully recognize that. I was just wondering, on the new changes that you've made, what sort of progress have you seen?

Speaker #7: Okay, great. And then, Roger, I know this is only your third conference call, so you're trying to turn things around.

Speaker #7: I was just wondering, can you talk a little bit about some of the things that you talked about last quarter? So, we ended up having Prashant Lamba come in.

Speaker #7: We had Jessica Block come in. What are you seeing there? What's the progress in terms of the central US? I mean, you came into a rough situation, so fully recognize that.

Speaker #7: Just wondering, on the new changes that you've made, what sort of progress have you seen?

Speaker #6: Yeah. Well, I'll go to the ones you specifically mentioned, and then I'll broaden from there a little. I think—and you probably saw in the comments just a moment ago—that we spoke maybe more about AI than we have historically.

Roger Carlile: Well, I'll go to the ones you specifically mentioned, then I'll broaden from there a little. You probably saw in the comments just a moment ago, that we spoke maybe more about AI than we have historically.

Roger Carlile: Well, I'll go to the ones you specifically mentioned, then I'll broaden from there a little. You probably saw in the comments just a moment ago, that we spoke maybe more about AI than we have historically.

Mark Marcon: Right.

Mark Marcon: Right.

Speaker #6: I think adding Jessica and Prashant—both of whom have worked together and with me in the past—and although they have different roles in the firm, they both have backgrounds in AI.

Roger Carlile: I think adding Jessica and Prashant, both of who had worked together and with me in the past, although they have differing roles in the firm, they both have backgrounds in AI. Prashant ran the AI labs at his prior employer and worked closely with Jessica. We see a lot of opportunity for RGPs, both internally. More of Prashant's work will probably be working with Jenn and others internally in terms of how can we use those technologies and tools to make things more effective and efficient. Jessica's doing a lot of things that are both internal and external. We're doing a lot to raise the general awareness and knowledge of our employee base regarding AI. Virtually every conversation that we have with our clients, whether it's our most senior consultants, our sales team, AI is in every conversation.

Roger Carlile: I think adding Jessica and Prashant, both of who had worked together and with me in the past, although they have differing roles in the firm, they both have backgrounds in AI. Prashant ran the AI labs at his prior employer and worked closely with Jessica. We see a lot of opportunity for RGPs, both internally. More of Prashant's work will probably be working with Jenn and others internally in terms of how can we use those technologies and tools to make things more effective and efficient. Jessica's doing a lot of things that are both internal and external. We're doing a lot to raise the general awareness and knowledge of our employee base regarding AI. Virtually every conversation that we have with our clients, whether it's our most senior consultants, our sales team, AI is in every conversation.

Speaker #6: Prashant ran the AI labs at his prior employer and worked closely with Jessica. So we see a lot of opportunity for RGP, both internally and externally. More of Prashant's work will probably be with Jen and others internally, in terms of how we can use those technologies and tools to make things more effective and efficient.

Speaker #6: And Jessica is doing a lot of things that are both internal and external. So we're doing a lot to raise the general awareness and knowledge of our employee base regarding AI. Virtually every conversation that we have with our clients, whether it's our most senior consultants or our sales team, AI is in every conversation.

Speaker #6: So, we're working to ensure that we have, in our on-demand talent team or on-demand employee base, people there who are sophisticated and learning AI.

Roger Carlile: We're working to ensure that we have in our on-demand talent team or on-demand employee base, that we have people there that are sophisticated in learning AI, or we're infusing AI into all of the things we do with clients. That's everything from getting their data ready to have AI applied against it, helping with governance as they put those tools into their systems, helping them decide what systems to do and choose and reaching those efficiencies in their business. I think there's a lot happening in the AI world. You hear a lot of in the press, in the market, there's a range of beliefs. There's a number of people that want to paint AI as the death knell for professional services and consulting and those things, I don't buy it.

Roger Carlile: We're working to ensure that we have in our on-demand talent team or on-demand employee base, that we have people there that are sophisticated in learning AI, or we're infusing AI into all of the things we do with clients. That's everything from getting their data ready to have AI applied against it, helping with governance as they put those tools into their systems, helping them decide what systems to do and choose and reaching those efficiencies in their business. I think there's a lot happening in the AI world. You hear a lot of in the press, in the market, there's a range of beliefs. There's a number of people that want to paint AI as the death knell for professional services and consulting and those things, I don't buy it.

Speaker #6: And we're infusing AI into all of the things we do with clients. That's everything from getting their data ready to have AI applied to it, helping with governance as they put those tools into their systems, helping them decide which systems to use, and achieving those efficiencies in their business.

Speaker #6: So I think there's a lot happening in the AI world. In my view, it's been—for, I mean, you hear a lot in the press, in the market—there's a range of beliefs.

Speaker #6: There are a number of people who want to paint AI as the death knell for professional services and consulting and those things. And I don't buy it.

Speaker #6: I've been through many technological changes, and my experience is generally that when customers are trying to achieve something, there's a level of confusion. It's actually a little boom for consulting.

Roger Carlile: I've been through many technological changes, my experience is generally when the customers are trying to achieve something, there's a level of confusion. It's actually a little boom for consulting. I think that's what will happen for some time. It may not be forever. Things eventually get integrated fully, I think for those firms that prepare themselves and take advantage of it, I think it's going to be useful, and we do too. We have a lot of work to make that a reality, that's what we're about. I think a lot is going on there that's positive.

Roger Carlile: I've been through many technological changes, my experience is generally when the customers are trying to achieve something, there's a level of confusion. It's actually a little boom for consulting. I think that's what will happen for some time. It may not be forever. Things eventually get integrated fully, I think for those firms that prepare themselves and take advantage of it, I think it's going to be useful, and we do too. We have a lot of work to make that a reality, that's what we're about. I think a lot is going on there that's positive.

Speaker #6: And I think that's what will happen. For some time, it may not be forever, things eventually get integrated fully, but I think it's going to be for those firms, that prepare themselves and take advantage of it, I think it's going to be useful.

Speaker #6: And we do too. But we have a lot of work to do to make that a reality, and so that's what we're about. So I think there's a lot that's going on there that's positive.

Speaker #6: And then just all of those investments that we've been talking about—more last quarter, but a little bit in the two quarters back—in terms of being sure that our sales team is growing and is skilled in the areas of what we're selling, that we're simplifying our business down to talk to clients about a specific set of things.

Roger Carlile: Just all of those investments we've been talking about more last quarter, but a little bit in two quarters back in terms of being sure that our sales team is growing and is skilled in the areas that we're selling, that we're simplifying our business down to talk to clients about a specific set of things. All that continues to go on, and that's really what the Voice of Customer survey was about, was making sure that one, we know how our customers see us, and secondly, are we focused on the things that they see us as well-positioned to help them address. Maybe I'll stop there, but I think that addresses most of that question.

Roger Carlile: Just all of those investments we've been talking about more last quarter, but a little bit in two quarters back in terms of being sure that our sales team is growing and is skilled in the areas that we're selling, that we're simplifying our business down to talk to clients about a specific set of things. All that continues to go on, and that's really what the Voice of Customer survey was about, was making sure that one, we know how our customers see us, and secondly, are we focused on the things that they see us as well-positioned to help them address. Maybe I'll stop there, but I think that addresses most of that question.

Speaker #6: All of that continues to go on. And that's really what the voice of customer survey was about—making sure that, one, we know how our customers see us, and secondly, are we focused on the things that they see us as well positioned to help them address.

Speaker #6: So maybe I'll stop there, but I think that addresses most of your question.

Speaker #7: Yeah, I was just wondering about the central US team, and then how long it would take for the seven new salespeople that you hired to get productive?

Mark Marcon: I was just wondering about the Central US team, and then how long would it take for the seven new salespeople that you hired to get productive?

Mark Marcon: I was just wondering about the Central US team, and then how long would it take for the seven new salespeople that you hired to get productive?

Speaker #6: Okay, I'm sorry. I misunderstood that you were talking about the fact that we hired a new sales leader in the Central US.

Roger Carlile: I'm sorry. I misunderstood this. You're talking about the fact that we hired a new sales leader in the Central US.

Roger Carlile: I'm sorry. I misunderstood this. You're talking about the fact that we hired a new sales leader in the Central US.

Speaker #7: Right.

Mark Marcon: Right.

Mark Marcon: Right.

Roger Carlile: I took the US to be the central part of the question.

Roger Carlile: I took the US to be the central part of the question.

Speaker #6: I took the US to be the central part of the question. No, well, that's the same as I was saying. That's all progressing well. So, the additions of those sales teams and sales team leaders, both in the Central US and the Northeast, they're coming up to scale quickly.

Mark Marcon: Oh.

Mark Marcon: Oh.

Roger Carlile: No. Well, that's the same what I was saying. That's all progressing well. The additions of those sales team leaders, both in the Central US and the Northeast, they're coming up to scale quickly. Our leadership team is across the whole US met, and making sure that our approaches and processes are consistent, and that we're driving towards the same results. I think that's moving along well, and they're making a great impact. I think on average, it depends how people want to think about the ramp-up period for any professional. I think we think it takes over a year before a person will hit, a sales team member will hit their full year targets or quotas. It takes anywhere from six to nine months for them to start hitting a monthly portion of that.

Roger Carlile: No. Well, that's the same what I was saying. That's all progressing well. The additions of those sales team leaders, both in the Central US and the Northeast, they're coming up to scale quickly. Our leadership team is across the whole US met, and making sure that our approaches and processes are consistent, and that we're driving towards the same results. I think that's moving along well, and they're making a great impact. I think on average, it depends how people want to think about the ramp-up period for any professional. I think we think it takes over a year before a person will hit, a sales team member will hit their full year targets or quotas. It takes anywhere from six to nine months for them to start hitting a monthly portion of that.

Speaker #6: Our leadership team is across the whole US, meeting and making sure that our approaches and processes are consistent and that we're driving towards the same results.

Speaker #6: So I think that's moving along well, and they're making a great impact. I think on average, it depends on how people want to think about the ramp-up period for any professional.

Speaker #6: I think we believe it takes over a year before a sales team member will hit their full year targets or quotas.

Speaker #6: But it takes anywhere from six to nine months for them to start hitting a monthly portion of that. So they can get up to their monthly portion by the sixth to ninth month.

Roger Carlile: They can get up to sort of their monthly portion by the sixth to ninth month. Over the next 12 months, they should be capable of hitting their annual quota.

Roger Carlile: They can get up to sort of their monthly portion by the sixth to ninth month. Over the next 12 months, they should be capable of hitting their annual quota.

Speaker #6: And then, over the next 12 months, they should be capable of hitting their annual quota.

Speaker #7: Okay, great. And then, on the consulting side, you mentioned that the utilization rate is lower. Where is that utilization right now?

Mark Marcon: Okay, great. On the consulting side, you mentioned that the utilization rate is lower. Where is that utilization rate now?

Mark Marcon: Okay, great. On the consulting side, you mentioned that the utilization rate is lower. Where is that utilization rate now?

Speaker #8: Yeah. Hi, Mark. We're around in the low 60s right now for our salaried consultants, so there's definitely room for improvement there.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. Hi, Mark. We're around in the low 60s right now for our salary consultants. There's definitely room for improvement there.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. Hi, Mark. We're around in the low 60s right now for our salary consultants. There's definitely room for improvement there.

Mark Marcon: Where would you hope for it to go and what would it take in from a revenue perspective to get it up to a level that would generate a decent EBITDA margin?

Mark Marcon: Where would you hope for it to go and what would it take in from a revenue perspective to get it up to a level that would generate a decent EBITDA margin?

Speaker #7: Where would you hope for it to go? And what would it take, from a revenue perspective, to get it up to a level that would generate a decent EBITDA margin?

Speaker #8: Yeah. Our target utilization for full-time, so delivery consultants, generally, it should be above 75% to 80%, right? Probably even above 80%. So I think with that, I'll just comment on the potential sort of gross margin impact of getting our utilization up in that range.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. Our target utilization for full-time delivery consultants, generally it should be above 75% to 80%, probably even above 80. I think with that, I'll just comment on the potential sort of gross margin impact of getting our utilization up in that range will be, I think roughly 200 plus basis points.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. Our target utilization for full-time delivery consultants, generally it should be above 75% to 80%, probably even above 80. I think with that, I'll just comment on the potential sort of gross margin impact of getting our utilization up in that range will be, I think roughly 200 plus basis points.

Speaker #8: It would be, I think, roughly 200-plus basis points.

Speaker #7: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.

Mark Marcon: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.

Mark Marcon: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.

Speaker #8: Thanks.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, please press *11 to queue up for a question. Our next question comes from Dylan Bandu with North Coast Research.

Jenn Ryu: Thanks.

Jenn Ryu: Thanks.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one to queue up for a question. Our next question comes from Dylan Bandy with North Coast Research. You may proceed.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one to queue up for a question. Our next question comes from Dylan Bandy with North Coast Research. You may proceed.

Speaker #1: You may proceed.

Speaker #3: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I guess, staying on consulting, you guys have had a pretty healthy pipeline. What has the conversion timeline kind of looked like lately, and has that changed at all over the past six months?

Dylan Bandy: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I guess, staying on consulting, you guys had a pretty healthy pipeline. What has the conversion timeline kind of looked like lately, and has that changed at all over the past six months?

Dylan Bandy: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I guess, staying on consulting, you guys had a pretty healthy pipeline. What has the conversion timeline kind of looked like lately, and has that changed at all over the past six months?

Speaker #8: Yeah. For our consulting pipeline—overall consulting or on-demand—I mean, we're seeing generally pretty healthy activities at the top of the funnel. And we said this, right?

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. For our consulting pipeline, overall consulting or on-demand, we're seeing generally pretty healthy activities at the top of the funnel. We said this, consulting deals generally take longer to close. It depends on complexity, depends on the size of the project. Whereas on-demand is a much quicker turn. Our conversion over the last two quarters or plus quarters. We're definitely seeing, we've commented on longer sales cycle. I don't think it's lengthening every quarter, but in general, it has gotten longer, especially as we're now, we've integrated our consulting segments, all of our consulting assets and we're focused on selling more consulting work. It's definitely lengthened the sales cycle.

Jenn Ryu: Yeah. For our consulting pipeline, overall consulting or on-demand, we're seeing generally pretty healthy activities at the top of the funnel. We said this, consulting deals generally take longer to close. It depends on complexity, depends on the size of the project. Whereas on-demand is a much quicker turn. Our conversion over the last two quarters or plus quarters. We're definitely seeing, we've commented on longer sales cycle. I don't think it's lengthening every quarter, but in general, it has gotten longer, especially as we're now, we've integrated our consulting segments, all of our consulting assets and we're focused on selling more consulting work. It's definitely lengthened the sales cycle.

Speaker #8: Consulting deals generally take longer to close and depend on complexity and the size of the project, whereas on-demand is a much quicker turn.

Speaker #8: And so our conversion over the last two quarters or plus quarters, and we're definitely seeing we've commented on longer sales cycle and I don't think it's lengthening every quarter, but in general, it's just it has gotten longer, especially as we're now we've integrated our consulting segments, all of our consulting assets, and we're focused on selling more consulting work.

Speaker #8: And it's definitely lengthened the sales cycle.

Speaker #3: Okay, thanks. And then going back to your cost actions, if you guys are taking further cost actions next year as your revenue kind of normalizes a little bit, what kind of incremental margins should we be thinking about?

Dylan Bandy: Okay, thanks. Going back to your cost actions, if you guys are taking further cost actions next year, as your revenue kind of normalizes a little bit, what kind of incremental margins should we be thinking about?

Dylan Bandy: Okay, thanks. Going back to your cost actions, if you guys are taking further cost actions next year, as your revenue kind of normalizes a little bit, what kind of incremental margins should we be thinking about?

Jenn Ryu: I think we can get to the more normalized, I would say 6% to 8% margin when revenue gets above $500 million.

Jenn Ryu: I think we can get to the more normalized, I would say 6% to 8% margin when revenue gets above $500 million.

Speaker #8: I think we can get to the more normalized, I would say, 6% to 8% margin when revenue gets above $500 million.

Speaker #1: Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back over to Roger Carlisle for any closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back over to Roger Carlile for any closing remarks.

Operator: I would now like to turn the call back over to Roger Carlile for any closing remarks.

Speaker #6: Thank you, and thanks, everyone, for joining our call today. We appreciate your interest in RGP, and don't hesitate to reach out with any additional questions.

Roger Carlile: Thank you. Thanks everyone for joining our call today. We appreciate your interest in RGP, and don't hesitate to reach out with any additional questions. Thank you.

Roger Carlile: Thank you. Thanks everyone for joining our call today. We appreciate your interest in RGP, and don't hesitate to reach out with any additional questions. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Q4 2026 Resources Connection Inc Earnings Call

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Q4 2026 Resources Connection Inc Earnings Call

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Wednesday, July 22nd, 2026 at 9:00 PM

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