Q2 2026 AutoCanada Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for joining AutoCanada's conference call to discuss the financial results for the second quarter of 2026. I'm John, your moderator for today's call.
Operator: Thank you for joining AutoCanada's conference call to discuss the financial results for Q2 2026. I am John, your moderator for today's call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussion may include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. I encourage you to review AutoCanada's filings on SEDAR+ for a discussion of these risks, as well as the Q2 news release, financial statements, and MD&A. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Samuel Cochrane, Chief Executive Officer of AutoCanada Inc.
Operator: Thank you for joining AutoCanada's conference call to discuss the financial results for Q2 2026. I am John, your moderator for today's call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussion may include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. I encourage you to review AutoCanada's filings on SEDAR+ for a discussion of these risks, as well as the Q2 news release, financial statements, and MD&A. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Samuel Cochrane, Chief Executive Officer of AutoCanada Inc.
Speaker #1: Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's discussion may include forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements.
Speaker #1: I encourage you to review AutoCanada's filings on CedarPlus for a discussion of these risks, as well as the second-quarter news release, financial statements, and MD&A.
Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a Q&A session. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Samuel Cochrane, Chief Executive Officer of AutoCanada Inc.
Speaker #2: Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before getting into the quarter, I want to spend a few minutes on the environment and the progress we are making across the business.
Samuel Cochrane: Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before getting into the quarter, I want to spend a few minutes on the environment and the progress we are making across the business. The Canadian auto market remains soft in Q2. Consumers are still dealing with affordability pressure, higher financing costs, and broader economic challenges facing Canada. Looking ahead, we expect a challenging market through the balance of the year. Against this backdrop, the financial results for the quarter were as expected, but more importantly, we focused on what was in our control and made progress in priorities we made this year. Used vehicle volumes and GPUs improved. Inventory moved faster and finance and insurance performance was strong. These are encouraging signs that the changes put in motion earlier this year are starting to take hold.
Samuel Cochrane: Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before getting into the quarter, I want to spend a few minutes on the environment and the progress we are making across the business. The Canadian auto market remains soft in Q2. Consumers are still dealing with affordability pressure, higher financing costs, and broader economic challenges facing Canada. Looking ahead, we expect a challenging market through the balance of the year. Against this backdrop, the financial results for the quarter were as expected, but more importantly, we focused on what was in our control and made progress in priorities we made this year. Used vehicle volumes and GPUs improved. Inventory moved faster and finance and insurance performance was strong. These are encouraging signs that the changes put in motion earlier this year are starting to take hold.
Speaker #2: The Canadian auto market remains soft in Q2. Consumers are still dealing with affordability pressures, higher financing costs, and broader economic challenges facing Canada. Looking ahead, we expect a challenging market through the balance of the year.
Speaker #2: Against this backdrop, the financial results for the quarter were as expected. But more importantly, we focused on what was in our control and made progress in the priorities we set this year.
Speaker #2: Used vehicle volumes and GPUs improved, inventory moved faster, and finance and insurance performance were strong. These are encouraging signs that the changes put in motion earlier this year are starting to take hold.
Speaker #2: As expected, new vehicle sales and GPUs remained under pressure, reflecting both the softer market and the work still underway to rebuild sales productivity and knowledge across our network.
Samuel Cochrane: As expected, new vehicle sales and GPUs remained under pressure, reflecting both the softer market and the work still underway to rebuild sales productivity and knowledge across our network. The team is working quickly to implement the new in-house sales training program across our dealerships. This program, combined with getting our new operating team up to full capacity, will begin to move the needle on new vehicle sales and GPUs early in 2027. Parts and service for the quarter performed as expected. Looking ahead, we see a big opportunity to increase our gross profit in parts and service by driving higher customer retention through targeting our customers both after the initial sale of the car and after each service visit. We are also looking to be more proactive in recruiting technicians to ensure we have the right level of staffing to service our customers.
Samuel Cochrane: As expected, new vehicle sales and GPUs remained under pressure, reflecting both the softer market and the work still underway to rebuild sales productivity and knowledge across our network. The team is working quickly to implement the new in-house sales training program across our dealerships. This program, combined with getting our new operating team up to full capacity, will begin to move the needle on new vehicle sales and GPUs early in 2027. Parts and service for the quarter performed as expected. Looking ahead, we see a big opportunity to increase our gross profit in parts and service by driving higher customer retention through targeting our customers both after the initial sale of the car and after each service visit. We are also looking to be more proactive in recruiting technicians to ensure we have the right level of staffing to service our customers.
Speaker #2: The team is working quickly to implement a new in-house sales training program across our dealerships, and this program, combined with getting our new operating team up to full capacity, will begin to move the needle on new vehicle sales and GPUs early in 2027.
Speaker #2: Parts and service for the quarter performed as expected. Looking ahead, we see a big opportunity to increase our gross profit in parts and service by driving higher customer retention, through targeting our customers both after the initial sale of the car and after each service visit.
Speaker #2: We are also looking to be more proactive in recruiting technicians to ensure we have the right level of staffing to service our customers. Our dealership operations priorities for the balance of the year remain unchanged.
Samuel Cochrane: Our dealership operations priorities for the balance of the year remain unchanged. Improving sales productivity and conversion, rebuilding used vehicle margins, increasing fixed operations absorption and service bay utilization, improving inventory discipline and working capital efficiency, and maintaining expense discipline while we grow our top line. Turning to the collision business, this continues to be an important growth platform for AutoCanada Inc. The headline revenue comparison and year-over-year decline in adjusted EBITDA was affected by the reduced hail work and recent new store openings, which need some time to get to capacity. Importantly, gross profit increased and margins improved, reflecting a stronger mix and contribution from acquired collision businesses. During the quarter, we added Contemporary Coachworks North and South in Calgary, Mascarin Collision Centre in Thunder Bay, and ACX Stratford in Ontario.
Samuel Cochrane: Our dealership operations priorities for the balance of the year remain unchanged. Improving sales productivity and conversion, rebuilding used vehicle margins, increasing fixed operations absorption and service bay utilization, improving inventory discipline and working capital efficiency, and maintaining expense discipline while we grow our top line. Turning to the collision business, this continues to be an important growth platform for AutoCanada Inc.
Speaker #2: Improving sales productivity and conversion, rebuilding used vehicle margins, increasing fixed operations absorption and service bay utilization, improving inventory discipline and working capital efficiency, and maintaining expense discipline while we grow our top line.
Speaker #2: Turning to the collision business, this continues to be an important growth platform for AutoCanada. The headline revenue comparison and year-over-year decline in adjusted EBITDA were affected by reduced hail work and recent new store openings, which need some time to get to capacity.
Samuel Cochrane: The headline revenue comparison and year-over-year decline in adjusted EBITDA was affected by the reduced hail work and recent new store openings, which need some time to get to capacity. Importantly, gross profit increased and margins improved, reflecting a stronger mix and contribution from acquired collision businesses. During the quarter, we added Contemporary Coachworks North and South in Calgary, Mascarin Collision Centre in Thunder Bay, and ACX Stratford in Ontario.
Speaker #2: Importantly, gross profit increased and margins improved, reflecting a stronger mix and contribution from acquired collision businesses. During the quarter, we added Contemporary Coachworks North and South in Calgary, Masquerade in Thunder Bay, and ACX Stratford in Ontario.
Speaker #2: These acquisitions expand our capabilities and build density in markets where we can benefit from insurer relationships, OEM certifications, and dealership referrals. Our focus now is on integrating these businesses and improving performance across the platform.
Samuel Cochrane: These acquisitions expand our capabilities and build density in markets where we can benefit from insurer relationships, OEM certifications, and dealership referrals. Our focus now is on integrating these businesses and improving performance across the platform. That includes expanding certifications and insurer relationships, increasing throughput, strengthening technician development, and growing high-value services such as diagnostics and calibrations. We will continue to pursue collision opportunities selectively with a clear focus on returns, integration capacity, and balance sheet discipline. We also made good progress simplifying the portfolio and sharpening our focus. During the quarter, we completed the sale of Hyundai of Lincolnwood and Toyota of Lincolnwood. We have now received approximately CAD 106 million from the US divestiture program and have agreements in place for the remaining dealerships and still expect proceeds of at least CAD 130 million subject to customary closing conditions and OEM approvals.
Samuel Cochrane: These acquisitions expand our capabilities and build density in markets where we can benefit from insurer relationships, OEM certifications, and dealership referrals. Our focus now is on integrating these businesses and improving performance across the platform. That includes expanding certifications and insurer relationships, increasing throughput, strengthening technician development, and growing high-value services such as diagnostics and calibrations.
Speaker #2: That includes expanding certifications and insurer relationships, increasing throughput, strengthening technician development, and growing high-value services such as diagnostics and calibrations. We will continue to pursue collision opportunities selectively, with a clear focus on returns, integration capacity, and balance sheet discipline.
Samuel Cochrane: We will continue to pursue collision opportunities selectively with a clear focus on returns, integration capacity, and balance sheet discipline. We also made good progress simplifying the portfolio and sharpening our focus. During the quarter, we completed the sale of Hyundai of Lincolnwood and Toyota of Lincolnwood. We have now received approximately CAD 106 million from the US divestiture program and have agreements in place for the remaining dealerships and still expect proceeds of at least CAD 130 million subject to customary closing conditions and OEM approvals.
Speaker #2: We also made good progress simplifying the portfolio and sharpening our focus. During the quarter, we completed the sale of Hyundai of Lincolnwood and Toyota of Lincolnwood. We have now received approximately $106 million from the U.S. divestiture program and have agreements in place for the remaining dealerships. We still expect proceeds of at least $130 million, subject to customary closing conditions and OEM approvals.
Speaker #2: After quarter-end, we also sold three Canadian dealerships in British Columbia. While we are committed to growing our dealership network across Canada, we will not tolerate assets that do not meet our long-term return objectives.
Samuel Cochrane: After quarter end, we also sold three Canadian dealerships in British Columbia. While we are committed to growing our dealership network across Canada, we will not tolerate assets that do not meet our long-term return objectives. Where we see a path to improve performance, we will act decisively to execute a turnaround. Where we do not, we will redeploy capital into opportunities that deliver stronger returns and greater value for our shareholders. Before turning the call over to Mike, I wanted to welcome him to AutoCanada Inc. Mike joined us as CFO in July and has already focused on strengthening financial discipline, improving decision support for our operating teams, and helping move the company towards its target leverage range. Mike, over to you.
Samuel Cochrane: After quarter end, we also sold three Canadian dealerships in British Columbia. While we are committed to growing our dealership network across Canada, we will not tolerate assets that do not meet our long-term return objectives. Where we see a path to improve performance, we will act decisively to execute a turnaround. Where we do not, we will redeploy capital into opportunities that deliver stronger returns and greater value for our shareholders. Before turning the call over to Mike, I wanted to welcome him to AutoCanada Inc. Mike joined us as CFO in July and has already focused on strengthening financial discipline, improving decision support for our operating teams, and helping move the company towards its target leverage range. Mike, over to you.
Speaker #2: Where we see a path to improve performance, we will act decisively to execute a turnaround. Where we do not, we will redeploy capital into opportunities that deliver stronger returns and greater value for our shareholders.
Speaker #2: Before turning the call over to Mike, I wanted to welcome him to AutoCanada. Mike joined us as CFO in July and is already focused on strengthening financial discipline, improving decision support for our operating teams, and helping move the company towards its target leverage range.
Speaker #2: Mike, over to you.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Sam, and good evening, everyone. I am pleased to have joined AutoCanada, and look forward to working with Sam, the Board, and our operating teams as we improve performance, strengthen the balance sheet, and enhance financial discipline across the organization.
Mike Woodward: Thank you, Sam, and good evening, everyone. I am pleased to have joined AutoCanada Inc. and look forward to working with Sam, the board, and our operating teams as we improve performance, strengthen the balance sheet, and enhance financial discipline across the organization. Revenue from continuing operations increased 6% year over year to CAD 1.4 billion, with growth in both new and used vehicle sales and continued strength in finance and insurance. Same-store revenue increased 5.5%. Growth was offset by lower parts and service revenue and lower collision revenue. Gross profit declined 8.1% to CAD 207 million, and gross profit percentage declined 220 basis points to 14.6%. The decline reflects continued pressure on vehicle margins and softer fixed operations performance, partially offset by strength in collision and finance and insurance. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations was CAD 52 million, compared with CAD 64 million last year.
Mike Woodward: Thank you, Sam, and good evening, everyone. I am pleased to have joined AutoCanada Inc. and look forward to working with Sam, the board, and our operating teams as we improve performance, strengthen the balance sheet, and enhance financial discipline across the organization. Revenue from continuing operations increased 6% year over year to CAD 1.4 billion, with growth in both new and used vehicle sales and continued strength in finance and insurance. Same-store revenue increased 5.5%. Growth was offset by lower parts and service revenue and lower collision revenue.
Speaker #3: Revenue from continuing operations increased 6% year over year to $1.4 billion, with growth in both new and used vehicle sales, and continued strength in finance and insurance.
Speaker #3: Same-store revenue increased 5.5%. Growth was offset by lower parts and service revenue and lower collision revenue. Gross profit declined 8.1% to $207 million, and gross profit percentage declined 220 basis points to 14.6%.
Mike Woodward: Gross profit declined 8.1% to CAD 207 million, and gross profit percentage declined 220 basis points to 14.6%. The decline reflects continued pressure on vehicle margins and softer fixed operations performance, partially offset by strength in collision and finance and insurance. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations was CAD 52 million, compared with CAD 64 million last year.
Speaker #3: The decline reflects continued pressure on vehicle margins and softer fixed operations performance, partially offset by strengthened collision, and finance and insurance. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations was $52 million, compared with $64 million last year.
Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 3.7%, compared with 4.8% in the prior year. Net income from continuing operations was $12.1 million, or $0.46 per diluted share, compared with $18.9 million, or $0.72 per diluted share in the prior year.
Mike Woodward: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 3.7%, compared with 4.8% in the prior year. Net income from continuing operations was CAD 12.1 million, or CAD 0.46 per diluted share, compared with CAD 18.9 million or CAD 0.72 per diluted share in the prior year. In the dealership business, used vehicle revenue increased 13.3%, supported by a 10% increase in retail units and a 2.9% increase in average selling price. As Sam noted, gross profit for used vehicles improved sequentially but remained under pressure as we continued to work through aged inventory. The improvements in inventory days of supply is encouraging, but restoring margins while maintaining healthy inventory terms remains a key priority. Finance and insurance continued to be an area of strength. Gross profit increased 4%, and average gross profit per retail unit increased to CAD 3,410 from CAD 3,337 in the prior year, reflecting stronger execution at the dealership level and improved product penetration.
Mike Woodward: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 3.7%, compared with 4.8% in the prior year. Net income from continuing operations was CAD 12.1 million, or CAD 0.46 per diluted share, compared with CAD 18.9 million or CAD 0.72 per diluted share in the prior year. In the dealership business, used vehicle revenue increased 13.3%, supported by a 10% increase in retail units and a 2.9% increase in average selling price. As Sam noted, gross profit for used vehicles improved sequentially but remained under pressure as we continued to work through aged inventory.
Speaker #3: In the dealership business, used vehicle revenue increased 13.3%, supported by a 10% increase in retail units and a 2.9% increase in average selling price. As Sam noted, gross profit for used vehicles improved sequentially but remained under pressure as we continued to work through aged inventory.
Speaker #3: The improvement in inventory days of supply is encouraging, but restoring margins while maintaining healthy inventory terms remains a key priority. Finance and insurance continue to be an area of strength.
Mike Woodward: The improvements in inventory days of supply is encouraging, but restoring margins while maintaining healthy inventory terms remains a key priority. Finance and insurance continued to be an area of strength. Gross profit increased 4%, and average gross profit per retail unit increased to CAD 3,410 from CAD 3,337 in the prior year, reflecting stronger execution at the dealership level and improved product penetration.
Speaker #3: Gross profit increased 4%, and average gross profit per retail unit increased to $3,410 from $3,337 in the prior year, reflecting stronger execution at the dealership level and improved product penetration.
Speaker #3: Operating expenses before depreciation declined 2.7% to $153 million. We remain focused on controlling costs while continuing to invest in areas that support long-term growth and operational performance.
Mike Woodward: Operating expenses before depreciation declined 2.7% to CAD 153 million. We remain focused on controlling costs while continuing to invest in areas that support long-term growth and operational performance. Turning to the balance sheet, the total net funded debt to bank EBITDA ratio was 3.6 times at the end of the quarter. in April, we amended and restated our syndicated credit agreement. The facility provides aggregated bank commitments of CAD 1.38 billion, removes the prior borrowing base structure, and extends the term to November 2028. The amended facility enhances liquidity and operational flexibility, providing a stronger foundation as we execute our turnaround plan. Reducing leverage remains a top priority, and we intend to direct proceeds from the remaining US divestitures toward debt reduction.
Mike Woodward: Operating expenses before depreciation declined 2.7% to CAD 153 million. We remain focused on controlling costs while continuing to invest in areas that support long-term growth and operational performance. Turning to the balance sheet, the total net funded debt to bank EBITDA ratio was 3.6 times at the end of the quarter. in April, we amended and restated our syndicated credit agreement. The facility provides aggregated bank commitments of CAD 1.38 billion, removes the prior borrowing base structure, and extends the term to November 2028. The amended facility enhances liquidity and operational flexibility, providing a stronger foundation as we execute our turnaround plan. Reducing leverage remains a top priority, and we intend to direct proceeds from the remaining US divestitures toward debt reduction.
Speaker #3: Turning to the balance sheet, the total net funded debt to bank EBITDA ratio was 3.6 times at the end of the quarter. In April, we amended and restated our syndicated credit agreement.
Speaker #3: The facility provides aggregated bank commitments of $1.38 billion, removes the prior borrowing-based structure, and extends the term to November 2028. The amended facility enhances liquidity and operational flexibility, providing a stronger foundation as we execute our turnaround plan.
Speaker #3: Reducing leverage remains a top priority, and we intend to direct proceeds from the remaining U.S. divestitures toward debt reduction. In parallel, restoring dealership earnings, improving working capital efficiency, and maintaining disciplined capital allocation will be essential to moving toward our target leverage range of 2 to 3 times total net funded debt to bank EBITDA.
Mike Woodward: In parallel, restoring dealership earnings, improving working capital efficiency, and maintaining disciplined capital allocation will be essential to moving toward our target leverage range of two to three times total net funded debt to bank EBITDA. Our capital allocation priorities for the balance of this year are clear. First, protect liquidity and financial flexibility. Second, invest in high-return operational initiatives. Third, pursue selective accretive acquisitions where returns and balance sheet capacity support it. And fourth, consider share repurchases where it makes sense to do so. As I begin my role, I'm inheriting a strong finance foundation and a talented team. Our priorities are straightforward. Strengthen the balance sheet and ensure capital is deployed where it earns the highest returns. Finance must be a partner to the business, helping our operating teams make better decisions, improve returns, and allocate capital effectively.
Mike Woodward: In parallel, restoring dealership earnings, improving working capital efficiency, and maintaining disciplined capital allocation will be essential to moving toward our target leverage range of two to three times total net funded debt to bank EBITDA. Our capital allocation priorities for the balance of this year are clear. First, protect liquidity and financial flexibility. Second, invest in high-return operational initiatives. Third, pursue selective accretive acquisitions where returns and balance sheet capacity support it. And fourth, consider share repurchases where it makes sense to do so.
Speaker #3: Our capital allocation priorities for the balance of this year are clear. First, protect liquidity and financial flexibility. Second, invest in high-return operational initiatives. Third, pursue selective, accretive acquisitions where returns and balance sheet capacity support it.
Speaker #3: And fourth, consider share repurchases where it makes sense to do so. As I begin my role, I'm inheriting a strong finance foundation and a talented team.
Mike Woodward: As I begin my role, I'm inheriting a strong finance foundation and a talented team. Our priorities are straightforward. Strengthen the balance sheet and ensure capital is deployed where it earns the highest returns. Finance must be a partner to the business, helping our operating teams make better decisions, improve returns, and allocate capital effectively. We have a clear understanding of where improvement is required, and we will measure progress against both financial and operational objectives. With that, I'll turn the call back to Sam.
Speaker #3: Our priorities are straightforward: strengthen the balance sheet and ensure capital is deployed where it earns the highest returns. Finance must be a partner to the business, helping our operating teams make better decisions, improve returns, and allocate capital effectively.
Speaker #3: We have a clear understanding of where improvement is required, and we will measure progress against both financial and operational objectives. With that, I'll turn the call back to Sam.
Mike Woodward: We have a clear understanding of where improvement is required, and we will measure progress against both financial and operational objectives. With that, I'll turn the call back to Sam.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Mike. As we look ahead, we continue to view 2026 as a transition year for the dealership business, and a year of disciplined growth for Collision.
Samuel Cochrane: Thank you, Mike. As we look ahead, we continue to view 2026 as a transition year for the dealership business and a year of disciplined growth for Collision. The market remains challenging, and the pace of recovery will depend on both our execution and the broader environment. That said, we believe the business is moving in the right direction. During the H1 of the year, we strengthened leadership and accountability, improved inventory discipline, increased used vehicle volumes, expanded our Collision platform, and made significant progress exiting the US dealership portfolio. Our focus for the balance of the year is clear. Continue to improve dealership operations across the board, integrate our recent Collision acquisitions, continue to grow our ACX Collision platform, complete the remaining US divestitures, and reduce debt, continue building the strongest operating team across the country.
Samuel Cochrane: Thank you, Mike. As we look ahead, we continue to view 2026 as a transition year for the dealership business and a year of disciplined growth for Collision. The market remains challenging, and the pace of recovery will depend on both our execution and the broader environment. That said, we believe the business is moving in the right direction. During the H1 of the year, we strengthened leadership and accountability, improved inventory discipline, increased used vehicle volumes, expanded our Collision platform, and made significant progress exiting the US dealership portfolio. Our focus for the balance of the year is clear. Continue to improve dealership operations across the board, integrate our recent Collision acquisitions, continue to grow our ACX Collision platform, complete the remaining US divestitures, and reduce debt, continue building the strongest operating team across the country.
Speaker #2: The market remains challenging, and the pace of recovery will depend on both our execution and the broader environment. That said, we believe the business is moving in the right direction.
Speaker #2: During the first half of the year, we strengthened leadership and accountability, improved inventory discipline, increased used vehicle volumes, expanded our collision platform, and made significant progress exiting the U.S. dealership portfolio.
Speaker #2: Our focus for the balance of the year is clear: continue to improve dealership operations across the board, integrate our recent collision acquisitions, and continue to grow our ACX Collision platform.
Speaker #2: Complete the remaining US divestitures and reduce debt. Continue building a stronger operating team across the country. There is still a lot of work ahead, and we are not satisfied with the current profitability.
Samuel Cochrane: There is still a lot of work ahead, and we are not satisfied with the current profitability. But we can see a clear path to stronger and more consistent financial results. I want to close by thanking our OEM partners and employees. Your focus, resilience, and commitment to our customers and to one another are what moves this company forward. Together, we are building a stronger AutoCanada. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Samuel Cochrane: There is still a lot of work ahead, and we are not satisfied with the current profitability. But we can see a clear path to stronger and more consistent financial results. I want to close by thanking our OEM partners and employees. Your focus, resilience, and commitment to our customers and to one another are what moves this company forward. Together, we are building a stronger AutoCanada. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #2: But we can see a clear path to stronger and more consistent financial results. I want to close by thanking our OEM partners and employees.
Speaker #2: Your focus, resilience, and commitment to our customers and to one another are what move this company forward. Together, we are building a stronger AutoCanada.
Speaker #2: With that, Operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press star, followed by the number one, on your touch-tone phone.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your touch tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the number 2. If you are using a speaker phone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Our first question comes from the line of Luke Hannan from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your touch tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the number 2. If you are using a speaker phone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Our first question comes from the line of Luke Hannan from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star followed by the number two.
Speaker #1: If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Our first question comes from the line of Luke Hanan from Canaccord Genuity.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Thanks. Good evening, everyone. Sam, I want to follow up on your prepared remarks and just make sure I'm not missing anything here. So, in the past, you talked about, when it comes to the US divestitures, that you expected proceeds of between $150 million to $130 million.
Luke Hannan: Thanks. Good evening, everyone. Sam, I want to follow up on your prepared remarks and just make sure I am not missing anything here. In the past, you talked about when it comes to the US divestitures that you expected proceeds of between CAD 150 to CAD 130 million. If I heard you correctly there in the prepared remarks, you had said now that you expect to get over CAD 130 million. Is there anything that has changed there, and does it have to do with that incremental, I think it is CAD 19 million or up to CAD 19 million for land dispositions that you guys previously classified as held for sale?
Luke Hannan: Thanks. Good evening, everyone. Sam, I want to follow up on your prepared remarks and just make sure I am not missing anything here. In the past, you talked about when it comes to the US divestitures that you expected proceeds of between CAD 150 to CAD 130 million. If I heard you correctly there in the prepared remarks, you had said now that you expect to get over CAD 130 million. Is there anything that has changed there, and does it have to do with that incremental, I think it is CAD 19 million or up to CAD 19 million for land dispositions that you guys previously classified as held for sale?
Speaker #4: If I heard you correctly there, in the prepared remarks, you had said now that you expect to get over $130 million. Is there anything that’s changed there, and does it have to do with that incremental?
Speaker #4: I think it's $19 million, or up to $19 million, for the Landis positions that you guys previously classified as held for sale.
Speaker #2: Yeah, that's right. And I think what I said was at least $130. So, and the difference is really the land.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, that is right. I think what I said was at least 130. The difference is really the land.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, that is right. I think what I said was at least 130. The difference is really the land.
Speaker #4: Okay, got it. So then.
Luke Hannan: Okay, got it. If I-
Luke Hannan: Okay, got it. If I-
Speaker #2: Yeah, property. We have a property in Chicago, and we own the land in Peoria. So that's the difference.
Samuel Cochrane: We have property. We have property in Chicago, and we own the land in Peoria. So that is the difference.
Samuel Cochrane: We have property. We have property in Chicago, and we own the land in Peoria. So that is the difference.
Speaker #4: So just to make sure I understand, if you collected $106 previously, you're looking for $115 to $130. So let's just say there is $19 that you would have had to get to the midpoint of that—roughly the midpoint of that, I guess.
Luke Hannan: Just to make sure I understand. If you collected 106 before, previously you were looking for 115 to 130, so let us just say there is 19 that you would have had to get to the midpoint of that, roughly the midpoint of that, I guess. Then there is an incremental 19 million CAD now that you are getting from this land in Chicago.
Luke Hannan: Just to make sure I understand. If you collected 106 before, previously you were looking for 115 to 130, so let us just say there is 19 that you would have had to get to the midpoint of that, roughly the midpoint of that, I guess. Then there is an incremental 19 million CAD now that you are getting from this land in Chicago.
Speaker #4: And then there's an incremental $19 million now that you're getting from this land in Chicago.
Speaker #2: Yeah, it's not all in the land. Some of it's in goodwill in the dealerships, but directionally, correct. Yeah.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. It's not all in the land. Some of it's in goodwill in the dealerships, but directionally correct. Yeah.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. It's not all in the land. Some of it's in goodwill in the dealerships, but directionally correct. Yeah.
Speaker #4: Okay. All right. So that's helpful, thanks. Just as I'm thinking about that—maybe that's a good segue actually into sticking with the balance sheet here.
Luke Hannan: Okay. All right. That's helpful. Thanks. Just as I'm thinking about the, maybe that's a good segue, actually, into sticking with the balance sheet here. You had sold some dealerships out in BC, and obviously we heard you in the prepared remarks that it sounds like these assets weren't generating the returns that you expect. Of course, it makes sense to divest them. How much EBITDA are you losing as part of that? Really what I'm getting to is if we're trying to figure out a pro forma net debt to EBITDA, it feels like you're not all that far off from the upper end, at least of what your long-term target is.
Luke Hannan: Okay. All right. That's helpful. Thanks. Just as I'm thinking about the, maybe that's a good segue, actually, into sticking with the balance sheet here. You had sold some dealerships out in BC, and obviously we heard you in the prepared remarks that it sounds like these assets weren't generating the returns that you expect. Of course, it makes sense to divest them. How much EBITDA are you losing as part of that? Really what I'm getting to is if we're trying to figure out a pro forma net debt to EBITDA, it feels like you're not all that far off from the upper end, at least of what your long-term target is.
Speaker #4: You'd sold some dealerships out in B.C., and obviously, we heard you in the prepared remarks that it sounds like these assets weren't generating the returns that you expect.
Speaker #4: So, of course, it makes sense to divest them. How much EBITDA are you losing as part of that? Really, what I'm getting to is, if we're trying to figure out a pro forma net debt to EBITDA, it feels like you're not all that far off from the upper end—at least of what your long-term target is.
Speaker #2: Yeah, so for those three dealerships, the TTM was zero. It was actually losing a bit of money. That being said, to answer your question, I would just put zero adjustment.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. For those three dealerships, the TTM was zero. It was actually losing a bit of money. That being said, to answer your question, I would just put zero adjustment.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. For those three dealerships, the TTM was zero. It was actually losing a bit of money. That being said, to answer your question, I would just put zero adjustment.
Luke Hannan: Okay
Luke Hannan: Okay
Speaker #2: In the model. And sorry, what was your question about, against target? I missed that part.
Samuel Cochrane: in the model. Sorry, what was your question about against target? I missed that part.
Samuel Cochrane: in the model. Sorry, what was your question about against target? I missed that part.
Speaker #4: Well, no. So all I was saying is I was getting at you can see where I'm getting at with this line of questioning. I'm just trying to figure out what your pro forma net debt to TTM EBITDA is.
Luke Hannan: Well, no, all I was saying is, all I was getting at, you can see where I am getting at with this line of questioning. I am just trying to figure out what your pro forma net debt to TTM EBITDA is, but I think you have given me enough that
Luke Hannan: Well, no, all I was saying is, all I was getting at, you can see where I am getting at with this line of questioning. I am just trying to figure out what your pro forma net debt to TTM EBITDA is, but I think you have given me enough that
Speaker #4: But I think you've given me a—we can look at it and figure it out.
Samuel Cochrane: Got it.
Samuel Cochrane: Got it.
Luke Hannan: we can work with and figure it out. Yeah.
Luke Hannan: we can work with and figure it out. Yeah.
Speaker #2: Got it. Yeah. Yeah, got it. Yeah. I would just do.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. Got it. Yeah. I would just do
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. Got it. Yeah. I would just do
Speaker #4: So, yeah, okay. So, is there anything more to do as far as cleaning up the Canadian business? Are there any more dealerships left that potentially aren't meeting that threshold, and potentially more divestitures to come in Canada?
Luke Hannan: Is there anything more to do as far as cleaning up the Canadian business? Is there any more dealerships left potentially that aren't meeting that threshold and potentially more divestitures to come in Canada?
Luke Hannan: Is there anything more to do as far as cleaning up the Canadian business? Is there any more dealerships left potentially that aren't meeting that threshold and potentially more divestitures to come in Canada?
Speaker #2: I mean, long term, we’re very committed to growing the platform across the country. We see lots of opportunity to actually get back to growth in the future.
Samuel Cochrane: Long term, we're very committed to growing the platform across the country. We see lots of opportunity to actually get back to growth in the future once we've sort of finalized the improvements in our current portfolio that we're working hard on and that we've seen great progress on in Q2. But there probably are one or two that are on the fence, and other unlocks that could be there, but nothing imminent at this time.
Samuel Cochrane: Long term, we're very committed to growing the platform across the country. We see lots of opportunity to actually get back to growth in the future once we've sort of finalized the improvements in our current portfolio that we're working hard on and that we've seen great progress on in Q2. But there probably are one or two that are on the fence, and other unlocks that could be there, but nothing imminent at this time.
Speaker #2: Once we've sort of finalized the improvements in our current portfolio that we're working hard on, and that we've seen great progress on in Q2,
Speaker #2: But there probably are one or two that are on the fence, and other unlocks that could be there, but nothing imminent at this time.
Speaker #4: Okay, that's fair. Last one for me, and then I'll pass the line. Looking at the collision repair business, I'm just trying to figure it out because you have done a lot of acquisitions there.
Luke Hannan: Okay, that's fair. Last one for me, and then I'll pass the line. In looking at the collision repair business, I'm just trying to figure out, because you have done a lot of acquisitions there, and then also you called out the paint, the repair activity that you would have done in the year-ago period. Can you give us, what was the organic growth in the collision repair segment when we strip out the impact of what would have happened last year and then also the acquisitions that you would have made during the period?
Luke Hannan: Okay, that's fair. Last one for me, and then I'll pass the line. In looking at the collision repair business, I'm just trying to figure out, because you have done a lot of acquisitions there, and then also you called out the paint, the repair activity that you would have done in the year-ago period. Can you give us, what was the organic growth in the collision repair segment when we strip out the impact of what would have happened last year and then also the acquisitions that you would have made during the period?
Speaker #4: And then also, you called out the paint, the repair activity that you would have done in the year-ago period. Can you give us—I mean, what was the organic growth in the collision repair segment when we strip out the impact of what would have happened last year, and then also the acquisitions that you would have made during the period?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I don't have that exact number at my fingertips, but as we went through earlier today, the vast majority of the collision centers were growing.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, I don't have that exact number on my fingertips. But the vast majority, we went through it earlier today, the vast majority of the collision centers were growing. The reduction in revenue in the hail section is substantial in the vast majority of what you're seeing there because there just hasn't been as much hail activity. That being said, late in the summer here, we have seen an uptick in the prairies of hail activity, so that business is picking back up. I expect a much stronger Q3 and Q4 on the collision side.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, I don't have that exact number on my fingertips. But the vast majority, we went through it earlier today, the vast majority of the collision centers were growing. The reduction in revenue in the hail section is substantial in the vast majority of what you're seeing there because there just hasn't been as much hail activity. That being said, late in the summer here, we have seen an uptick in the prairies of hail activity, so that business is picking back up. I expect a much stronger Q3 and Q4 on the collision side.
Speaker #2: The reduction in revenue in the hail section is substantial in the vast majority of what you're seeing there, because there just hasn't been as much hail activity.
Speaker #2: That being said, late in the summer here, we have seen an uptick in the Prairies of hail activity, so that business is picking back up.
Speaker #2: I expect a much stronger Q3 and Q4 on the collision side.
Speaker #4: Okay, thanks. I'll pass the line.
Luke Hannan: Okay, thanks. I will pass the line.
Luke Hannan: Okay, thanks. I will pass the line.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of Maxim Sichev from National Bank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Maxim Sytchev from National Bank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Maxim Sytchev from National Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Hi, good evening, gentlemen. Sam and Mike, welcome. Maybe the first question is for Sam, on new vehicles. How much of the volume weakness is due to macro demand versus ACQ-specific sales productivity issues?
Maxim Sytchev: Hi. Good evening, gentlemen. Sam and Mike, obviously, welcome. Maybe the first question for Sam. On new vehicles, I guess how much of the volume weakness is macro demand versus ACQ specific sales productivity issues? How would you characterize the two, if it is possible? Thanks.
Maxim Sytchev: Hi. Good evening, gentlemen. Sam and Mike, obviously, welcome. Maybe the first question for Sam. On new vehicles, I guess how much of the volume weakness is macro demand versus ACQ specific sales productivity issues? How would you characterize the two, if it is possible? Thanks.
Speaker #3: I mean, how would you characterize the two, if it's possible? Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, so thanks, Max. Obviously, on the dealership operation side, we have a brand-new team that is just getting up to speed. If I look at the quarter, April was a much different picture than June on the new car side.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. Thanks, Max. On the dealership operations side, we have a brand-new team that is just getting up to speed. If I look at the quarter, April was a much different picture than June on the new car side. Actually, in June, for the first time in a long time, we won market share on the new side. A little bit of the volume in the quarter is still issues that we are working through, and the rest really is the economy. When you see the macro units, remember that we do not hold any Toyota or Tesla, and Toyota and Tesla are having a really hot summer. If you look at just our brands and our performance against our brands, and you look at the second half of Q2, we actually performed quite well. That is a good trend.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah. Thanks, Max. On the dealership operations side, we have a brand-new team that is just getting up to speed. If I look at the quarter, April was a much different picture than June on the new car side. Actually, in June, for the first time in a long time, we won market share on the new side. A little bit of the volume in the quarter is still issues that we are working through, and the rest really is the economy. When you see the macro units, remember that we do not hold any Toyota or Tesla, and Toyota and Tesla are having a really hot summer.
Speaker #2: Actually, in June, for the first time in a long time, we won market share on the new side. So, a little bit of the volume in the quarter is still sort of issues that we're working through.
Speaker #2: And the rest, really, is the economy. And when you see the macro units, remember that we don't hold any Toyota or Tesla. And Toyota and Tesla are having a really hot summer.
Speaker #2: So if you look at just our brands and our performance against our brands, and you look at the second half of Q2, we actually performed quite well.
Samuel Cochrane: If you look at just our brands and our performance against our brands, and you look at the second half of Q2, we actually performed quite well. That is a good trend. Now, Max, listen, still lots of work to do. We are building new training programs and systems. We still have new team members that we are getting up to speed. I think there is still more to come on driving new volumes and GPUs. Good trends in the H2 of the quarter for sure. Does that answer your question?
Speaker #2: So, that's a good trend. Now, Max, listen, there's still lots of work to do. We're building new training programs and systems, and we still have new team members that we're getting up to speed.
Samuel Cochrane: Now, Max, listen, still lots of work to do. We are building new training programs and systems. We still have new team members that we are getting up to speed. I think there is still more to come on driving new volumes and GPUs. Good trends in the H2 of the quarter for sure. Does that answer your question?
Speaker #2: So, I think there's still more to come on driving new volumes and GPUs, but definitely good trends in the second half of the quarter for sure.
Speaker #2: So, yeah, does that answer your question?
Speaker #3: Yeah, yeah. It sure does. And then, in terms of—I mean, have those trends persisted into, kind of, July or August? I'm not sure if you're getting any sense there.
Maxim Sytchev: Yeah, it sure does. Then in terms of have those trends persisted into July, August? I am not sure if you are getting any sense there. Maybe if you can comment as well in relation to if you are seeing any regional differences in terms of, I presume the West is a bit stronger right now versus the East, but any comment there would be helpful. Thanks.
Maxim Sytchev: Yeah, it sure does. Then in terms of have those trends persisted into July, August? I am not sure if you are getting any sense there. Maybe if you can comment as well in relation to if you are seeing any regional differences in terms of, I presume the West is a bit stronger right now versus the East, but any comment there would be helpful. Thanks.
Speaker #3: Maybe if you can comment as well in relation to if you are seeing any regional differences. I mean, I presume the West is a bit stronger right now versus the East, but any comment would be helpful.
Speaker #3: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, no, Alberta is really strong. Everyone's optimistic about the investments coming into Alberta. British Columbia and Ontario, with what's happening with real estate and jobs.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, Alberta is really strong. Everyone is optimistic about the investments coming into Alberta. British Columbia and Ontario with what is happening with real estate and jobs, although jobs in July looked a bit better, so cautiously optimistic there. But BC and Ontario struggling definitely more than you would in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba. Overall, on the new side, it is a resilient market. GPUs are coming down a little bit. Still some of that post-COVID normalization. Our sales effectiveness with the OEMs has improved. Can we do better? Yes. But if you look at our brand mix versus, and how we perform against the market, like I said, June and July, we are winning share. Max, like I said, back in Q1, the first step was winning volume back. That has happened. We are having strong volume. Then we got to build the profitability around that. We no longer have an OpEx issue.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, Alberta is really strong. Everyone is optimistic about the investments coming into Alberta. British Columbia and Ontario with what is happening with real estate and jobs, although jobs in July looked a bit better, so cautiously optimistic there. But BC and Ontario struggling definitely more than you would in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba. Overall, on the new side, it is a resilient market. GPUs are coming down a little bit. Still some of that post-COVID normalization.
Speaker #2: Although jobs in July looked a bit better, so cautiously optimistic there. But B.C. and Ontario are struggling definitely more than you would see in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Manitoba.
Speaker #2: But overall, on the new side, it's a resilient market. GPUs are coming down a little bit—still some of that post-COVID normalization. Our sales effectiveness with the OEMs has improved.
Samuel Cochrane: Our sales effectiveness with the OEMs has improved. Can we do better? Yes. But if you look at our brand mix versus, and how we perform against the market, like I said, June and July, we are winning share. Max, like I said, back in Q1, the first step was winning volume back. That has happened. We are having strong volume. Then we got to build the profitability around that. We no longer have an OpEx issue. It is a growth issue, and the opportunity is there, and it is in our control, so we feel good about that. Can not control the macro.
Speaker #2: Can we do better? Yes. But if you look at our brand mix versus how we performed against the market, like I said, June and July—we're winning share.
Speaker #2: So Max, like I said back in Q1, the first step was winning volume back. That's happened. We're having strong volume, and then we've got to build profitability around that.
Speaker #2: We no longer have an OpEx issue—it's a gross issue. And the opportunity is there, and it's in our control. So we feel good about that.
Samuel Cochrane: It is a growth issue, and the opportunity is there, and it is in our control, so we feel good about that. Can not control the macro.
Speaker #2: We can't control the macro, but we're controlling what we can control.
Maxim Sytchev: Yeah
Maxim Sytchev: Yeah
Samuel Cochrane: but we are controlling what we can control.
Samuel Cochrane: but we are controlling what we can control.
Speaker #3: Of course. And then actually, to your point around OpEx, because I think your normalized operating expenses were sort of flat year-on-year. I mean, kind of despite like I would say, restructuring organization changes, etc.
Maxim Sytchev: Of course. Then actually to your point around OpEx, because I think your normalized operating expenses were flat year-on-year, despite, like I would say, restructuring, organizational changes, et cetera. So, in order to see higher, basically, EBITDA and to get that operating leverage, it is revenue that has to increase. There is not much more you can do right now on OpEx. Is that how we should be thinking about this or-
Maxim Sytchev: Of course. Then actually to your point around OpEx, because I think your normalized operating expenses were flat year-on-year, despite, like I would say, restructuring, organizational changes, et cetera. So, in order to see higher, basically, EBITDA and to get that operating leverage, it is revenue that has to increase. There is not much more you can do right now on OpEx. Is that how we should be thinking about this or-
Speaker #3: So, I mean, in order to see higher, basically, EBITDA and to get that operating leverage, it's revenue that has to increase. I mean, there's not much more you can do right now in OpEx.
Speaker #3: Is that how we should be thinking about this, or?
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, I think that is a bit right. I think there may be 4 or 5 million on OpEx where we are heavy in areas where we can do better with automation and better processes and technology, but it is not a massive opportunity on the OpEx side, Max. I think you really should be focused on new volumes, used volumes, and those GPUs coming back. We are already seeing the volumes, and like I said, June, July, we are winning market share. It is now getting those GPUs back to normal after the reset that we all know about in the past. So, yeah, cautiously optimistic about that.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, I think that is a bit right. I think there may be 4 or 5 million on OpEx where we are heavy in areas where we can do better with automation and better processes and technology, but it is not a massive opportunity on the OpEx side, Max. I think you really should be focused on new volumes, used volumes, and those GPUs coming back. We are already seeing the volumes, and like I said, June, July, we are winning market share. It is now getting those GPUs back to normal after the reset that we all know about in the past. So, yeah, cautiously optimistic about that.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think that's a bit—yeah, I think that's a bit right. I think there's maybe $4 or $5 million on OpEx where we're heavy in areas where we can do better with automation, and better processes and technology.
Speaker #2: But it's not a massive opportunity on the OpEx side, Max. I think you really should be focused on new volumes, used volumes, and those GPUs coming back.
Speaker #2: We're already seeing the volumes. And like I said, June and July, we're winning market share. It's now about getting those GPUs back to normal after the reset that we all know about in the past.
Speaker #2: So, yeah, cautiously optimistic about that.
Speaker #3: Okay, that's great. Thank you so much. That's it for me.
Maxim Sytchev: Okay, that is great. Thank you so much. That is it for me.
Maxim Sytchev: Okay, that is great. Thank you so much. That is it for me.
Speaker #1: As a reminder, if you have any questions or follow-up, please press star one. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Murray from ATB Capital Markets.
Operator: As a reminder, if you have any questions or follow-up, please press star one. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Murray from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: As a reminder, if you have any questions or follow-up, please press star one. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Murray from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, Sam. Just thinking about the outlook and how we should think about the next couple of quarters. The last few quarters, certainly, you've been talking about the fact of having maybe inventory mixed in the right—not in the right place.
Chris Murray: Yeah. Thanks, Sam. Just thinking about the outlook and how we should think about the next couple of quarters. The last few quarters, certainly you've been talking about the fact about having maybe inventory mixed and not in the right place. I think you were still struggling with some of that, maybe with used vehicles. How are you feeling about, in this kind of uncertainty, the mix of vehicles you have on the floor right now, in terms of their aging? I do not know if Mike wants to throw any of his opinion in on the inventory management or where it is sitting right now. Just trying to get a feel for how we could see some improvement in the cadence on those GPUs as we go into Q3 and Q4.
Chris Murray: Yeah. Thanks, Sam. Just thinking about the outlook and how we should think about the next couple of quarters. The last few quarters, certainly you've been talking about the fact about having maybe inventory mixed and not in the right place. I think you were still struggling with some of that, maybe with used vehicles. How are you feeling about, in this kind of uncertainty, the mix of vehicles you have on the floor right now, in terms of their aging? I do not know if Mike wants to throw any of his opinion in on the inventory management or where it is sitting right now. Just trying to get a feel for how we could see some improvement in the cadence on those GPUs as we go into Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #3: I think you were still struggling with some of that, maybe with used vehicles. How are you feeling about, in this kind of uncertainty, the mix of vehicles you have on the floor right now, in terms of their aging?
Speaker #3: I don't know if Mike wants to throw any of his opinion in on the inventory management or where it's sitting right now.
Speaker #3: But just trying to get a feel for how we could see some improvement in the cadence on those GPUs as we go into Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #2: Yeah, that's a great question. So, we feel really good about where we are from an inventory units perspective. Especially on the used side, we got a lot more revenue while holding a lot less inventory, right?
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, it is a great question. We feel really good about where we are from an inventory units perspective. Especially on the used side, we got a lot more revenue while holding a lot less inventory, right? That is a really good sign when you can have 6,000, 7,000 cars, and you turn 50% of those in a month. That is something that this company has not done in a very long time, maybe since COVID. So we are getting good velocity. New inventory is also in a lot better shape. Now, for Q3, there is still some long dated cars that we have to get through throughout the end of the summer here and the end of selling season. So I would not expect a huge improvement on GPUs in Q3, but in Q4 and going into 2027, you should start seeing normalized front-end GPUs.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, it is a great question. We feel really good about where we are from an inventory units perspective. Especially on the used side, we got a lot more revenue while holding a lot less inventory, right? That is a really good sign when you can have 6,000, 7,000 cars, and you turn 50% of those in a month. That is something that this company has not done in a very long time, maybe since COVID. So we are getting good velocity. New inventory is also in a lot better shape. Now, for Q3, there is still some long dated cars that we have to get through throughout the end of the summer here and the end of selling season. So I would not expect a huge improvement on GPUs in Q3, but in Q4 and going into 2027, you should start seeing normalized front-end GPUs.
Speaker #2: So that is a really good sign when you can have 6,000 or 7,000 cars in, and you turned 50% of those in a month. So that is something that this company hasn't done in a very long time, maybe since COVID.
Speaker #2: So we're getting good velocity. New inventory is also in a lot better shape. So now, for Q3, there are still some long-dated cars that we have to get through throughout the end of the summer here and the end of the selling season.
Speaker #2: So I wouldn't expect a huge improvement on GPUs in Q3. But in Q4 and going into '27, you should start seeing normalized front-end GPUs.
Speaker #2: And with the processes and controls we're putting in place, we don't expect to have to have these conversations any longer. So that's what Faye and I are working hard on.
Samuel Cochrane: And with the processes and controls we are putting in place, we do not expect to be having to have these conversations any longer. So that is what Faye and I are working hard on, and Mike is here now to help put horsepower behind that. He has only been here a few weeks. I do not want to put him on the hot spot to talk about inventory on the call. You will hear from him in November for sure. Let us give him at least a month to get going. But does that answer your question, Chris?
Samuel Cochrane: And with the processes and controls we are putting in place, we do not expect to be having to have these conversations any longer. So that is what Faye and I are working hard on, and Mike is here now to help put horsepower behind that. He has only been here a few weeks. I do not want to put him on the hot spot to talk about inventory on the call. You will hear from him in November for sure. Let us give him at least a month to get going. But does that answer your question, Chris?
Speaker #2: And Mike's here now to help put horsepower behind that, too. He's only been here a few weeks, so I don't want to put him on the spot to talk about inventory on the call.
Speaker #2: You'll hear from him in November, for sure. Let's give him at least a month to get going. But does that answer your question, Chris?
Speaker #3: Yeah, no, that's fair. Thank you. And then one of the other things you did talk about too—and we haven't talked about—the sort of parts and service piece of the business.
Chris Murray: Yeah, no, that's fair. Thank you. One of the other things you did talk about too, we haven't talked about the parts and service piece of the business. I know, I think last couple quarters you mentioned you were having some issues with staffing. I'm wondering how that's coming along. I think you called it out as a bit of a focus, again, for the second half. Can you just talk about what you folks are seeing there? Traditionally, when you get into these kind of areas with maybe a shakier consumer, you generally get more business in the parts and service line, just as people keep cars longer. Just wondering how you're seeing with your own internal operations, but also if there's any color you can add into anything you're seeing on consumer behavior.
Chris Murray: Yeah, no, that's fair. Thank you. One of the other things you did talk about too, we haven't talked about the parts and service piece of the business. I know, I think last couple quarters you mentioned you were having some issues with staffing. I'm wondering how that's coming along. I think you called it out as a bit of a focus, again, for the second half. Can you just talk about what you folks are seeing there? Traditionally, when you get into these kind of areas with maybe a shakier consumer, you generally get more business in the parts and service line, just as people keep cars longer. Just wondering how you're seeing with your own internal operations, but also if there's any color you can add into anything you're seeing on consumer behavior.
Speaker #3: I know I think the last couple of quarters, you mentioned you were having some issues with staffing. I'm wondering how that's coming along. And I think you kind of called it out as a bit of a focus again for the second half.
Speaker #3: Can you just talk about what you folks are seeing there? Traditionally, when you get into these kinds of areas with maybe a shakier consumer, you generally get more business in the parts and service line, just as people keep cars longer.
Speaker #3: I was just wondering how you're seeing things with your own internal operations, but also if there's any color you can add on anything you're seeing in consumer behavior.
Speaker #2: Yeah, there's not much with the consumer right now. The fleet is older, Chris, but I think it's sort of been old for a while now.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, there's not much with the consumer right now. The fleet is older, Chris, but I think it's sort of been old for a while now, so it's kind of baked into the cake, into the run rate a little bit. It might be eking a bit older, but not seeing any meaningful trends there. Us, we're focused really on better targeting and marketing of our customers when they come in and buy the car and after each service. We hired a new staff who's focused 100% on that. We haven't had that in the past. In terms of culture and rebuilding off the turnover that happened, I got to give it to Faye. When he joined, the turnover was very high. But very quickly, he's been able to turn the culture around, get accountability, and get people excited to work for AutoCanada.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, there's not much with the consumer right now. The fleet is older, Chris, but I think it's sort of been old for a while now, so it's kind of baked into the cake, into the run rate a little bit. It might be eking a bit older, but not seeing any meaningful trends there. Us, we're focused really on better targeting and marketing of our customers when they come in and buy the car and after each service. We hired a new staff who's focused 100% on that.
Speaker #2: So it's kind of baked into the cake, into the run rate a little bit. And that might be eking a bit older, but not seeing any meaningful trends there.
Speaker #2: We're really focused on better targeting and marketing to our customers. When they come in and buy a car and then need to reach service, we've hired new staff who are focused 100% on that.
Speaker #2: We haven't had that in the past. In terms of culture and rebuilding after the turnover that happened, I’ve got to give it to Faye.
Samuel Cochrane: We haven't had that in the past. In terms of culture and rebuilding off the turnover that happened, I got to give it to Faye. When he joined, the turnover was very high. But very quickly, he's been able to turn the culture around, get accountability, and get people excited to work for AutoCanada. There's a real energy brewing here, and we're able to attract really good talent, also on the GM side, but also on the techs and in fixed ops. So hats off to Faye for his ability to do that quickly, too. It is amazing to watch.
Speaker #2: When he joined, the turnover was very high, but very quickly, he's been able to turn the culture around, instill accountability, and get people excited to work for AutoCanada.
Speaker #2: There's a real energy brewing here, and we're able to attract really good talent—not just on the GM side, but also with the techs and in fixed ops.
Samuel Cochrane: There's a real energy brewing here, and we're able to attract really good talent, also on the GM side, but also on the techs and in fixed ops. So hats off to Faye for his ability to do that quickly, too. It is amazing to watch.
Speaker #2: So I got to hand it to Faye for his ability to do that—quickly, too. I mean, it was amazing to watch.
Speaker #3: Okay, great. All right, I'll leave it there. Thanks.
Chris Murray: Okay, great. All right, I'll leave it there. Thanks.
Chris Murray: Okay, great. All right, I'll leave it there. Thanks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Samuel Cochrane. Please continue.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Samuel Cochrane. Please continue.
Speaker #1: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Samuel Cochrane. Please continue.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thank you. Everyone, enjoy the rest of your night, and thanks for listening to the call. Have a good night.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, thank you. Everyone enjoy the rest of your night, and thanks for listening to the call. Have a good night.
Samuel Cochrane: Yeah, thank you. Everyone enjoy the rest of your night, and thanks for listening to the call. Have a good night.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
