Q2 2026 Tonix Pharmaceuticals Holding Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Good morning, and welcome to Tonix Pharmaceuticals' Q2 2026 financial results and business update conference call. At this time, all participants are on listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, we will hold a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Deborah Elson, Head of Investor Relations at Tonix Pharmaceuticals. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Following management's prepared remarks, we will hold a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Deborah Ellison, Head of Investor Relations at Tonix Pharmaceuticals.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to discuss Tonix Pharmaceuticals' second quarter 2026 financial results and operational highlights.
Deborah Elson: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to discuss Tonix Pharmaceuticals' Q2 2026 financial results and operational highlights. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone of the disclaimers on slide two that any statements made on today's call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risks are described more fully in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, and our subsequent periodic reports. Tonix undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law.
Deborah Elson: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to discuss Tonix Pharmaceuticals' Q2 2026 financial results and operational highlights. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone of the disclaimers on slide two that any statements made on today's call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone of the disclaimers on slide 2 that any statements made on today's call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the private securities litigation reform act of 1995.
Speaker #2: These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected.
Speaker #2: These risks are described more fully in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, and our subsequent periodic reports.
Deborah Elson: These risks are described more fully in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, and our subsequent periodic reports. Tonix undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. Joining me on today's call are Dr. Seth Lederman, Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Englese, Executive Vice President of Commercial Operations, and Bradley Saenger, Chief Financial Officer. With that, I will turn the call over to Seth. Seth?
Speaker #2: Tonix undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. Joining me on today's call are Dr. Seth Letterman, Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Inglese, Executive Vice President of Commercial Operations, and Bradley Singer, Chief Financial Officer.
Deborah Elson: Joining me on today's call are Dr. Seth Lederman, Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Englese, Executive Vice President of Commercial Operations, and Bradley Saenger, Chief Financial Officer. With that, I will turn the call over to Seth. Seth?
Speaker #2: With that, I will turn the call over to Seth. Seth?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Deborah, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to welcome you to Tonix’s earnings call. Today, we’re reporting second-quarter financial results and operational highlights that reflect strong execution in both our commercial business and in advancing our development pipeline.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Deborah, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to welcome you to Tonix's earnings call. Today, we're reporting Q2 financial results and operational highlights that reflect strong execution in both our commercial business and advancing our development pipeline. We are focused on improving the care for patients with debilitating conditions or preventing illness before it happens. We believe each of the commercial products and the development candidates target major unmet medical needs. As you can see on slide two, the launch of Tonmya is progressing well, supported by growing sales, improvement across launch metrics, and patient access wins. Tonmya was invented, developed, tested, and launched in-house by the Tonix team. Tonmya is the first medicine for the treatment of fibromyalgia in adults approved by the FDA in over 15 years. More than 10 million adults in the US suffer from fibromyalgia.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Deborah, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to welcome you to Tonix's earnings call. Today, we're reporting Q2 financial results and operational highlights that reflect strong execution in both our commercial business and advancing our development pipeline. We are focused on improving the care for patients with debilitating conditions or preventing illness before it happens. We believe each of the commercial products and the development candidates target major unmet medical needs. As you can see on slide two, the launch of Tonmya is progressing well, supported by growing sales, improvement across launch metrics, and patient access wins. Tonmya was invented, developed, tested, and launched in-house by the Tonix team. Tonmya is the first medicine for the treatment of fibromyalgia in adults approved by the FDA in over 15 years.
Speaker #3: We are focused on improving the care for patients with debilitating conditions or preventing illness before it happens. We believe each of the commercial products and the development candidates targets major unmet medical needs.
Speaker #3: As you can see on slide 2, the launch of Tanmaya is progressing well, supported by growing sales, improvement across launch metrics, and patient access wins.
Speaker #3: Tanmaya was invented, developed, tested, and launched in-house by the Tonix team. Tanmaya is the first medicine for the treatment of fibromyalgia in adults approved by the FDA in over 15 years.
Speaker #3: More than 10 million adults in the U.S. suffer from fibromyalgia. We are initially targeting nearly 3 million patients who are currently diagnosed and treated.
Seth Lederman: More than 10 million adults in the US suffer from fibromyalgia. We are initially targeting nearly 3 million patients who are currently diagnosed and treated. Q2 2026 was the second full quarter of Tonmya sales. We believe our Q2 and cumulative launch performance underscore Tonmya's compelling value proposition and differentiated profile. Historically, fibromyalgia patients and their healthcare providers, or HCPs, have been dissatisfied with limited treatment options. Now, we are pleased to offer Tonmya as an effective and generally well-tolerated treatment option. Tonmya is a non-opioid analgesic that improves fibromyalgia pain, the core symptom of the disease.
Seth Lederman: We are initially targeting nearly 3 million patients who are currently diagnosed and treated. Q2 2026 was the second full quarter of Tonmya sales. We believe our Q2 and cumulative launch performance underscore Tonmya's compelling value proposition and differentiated profile. Historically, fibromyalgia patients and their healthcare providers, or HCPs, have been dissatisfied with limited treatment options. Now, we are pleased to offer Tonmya as an effective and generally well-tolerated treatment option. Tonmya is a non-opioid analgesic that improves fibromyalgia pain, the core symptom of the disease. Tonmya is a once-daily medicine taken at bedtime and indicated for long-term use by fibromyalgia patients. Commercially, Tonix has 100% share of voice as the only branded and marketed product for fibromyalgia. We are striving to improve the lives of patients and simultaneously creating long-term value for shareholders.
Speaker #3: The second quarter of 2026 was the second full quarter of Tanmaya's sales. We believe our second quarter and cumulative launch performance underscored Tanmaya's compelling value proposition and differentiated profile.
Speaker #3: Historically, fibromyalgia patients and their healthcare providers, or HCPs, have been dissatisfied with limited treatment options. Now, we are pleased to offer Tanmaya as an effective and generally well-tolerated treatment option.
Speaker #3: Tanmaya is a non-opioid analgesic that improves fibromyalgia pain, the core symptom of the disease. Tanmaya is a once-daily medicine taken at bedtime and is indicated for long-term use by fibromyalgia patients.
Seth Lederman: Tonmya is a once-daily medicine taken at bedtime and indicated for long-term use by fibromyalgia patients. Commercially, Tonix has 100% share of voice as the only branded and marketed product for fibromyalgia. We are striving to improve the lives of patients and simultaneously creating long-term value for shareholders.
Speaker #3: Commercially, Tonix has 100% share of voice as the only branded and marketed product for fibromyalgia. We are striving to improve the lives of patients while simultaneously creating long-term value for shareholders.
Speaker #3: In the second quarter of 2026, we achieved approximately 11 million dollars in net sales for Tanmaya, a, representing 197% quarter-over-quarter growth. That is approximately triple the next sales of the first quarter.
Seth Lederman: In Q2 2026, we achieved approximately $11 million in net sales for Tonmya, representing 197% quarter-over-quarter growth. That is approximately triple the net sales of Q1. Additionally, we saw increases across other key metrics. We attribute these results to the patient and prescriber recognition of the value of Tonmya and to our strategic focus and execution. We also had early wins in managed access. We do not believe these wins contributed significantly to Tonmya sales in Q2. However, we are beginning to see their effects in Q3. Currently, Tonmya coverage across commercial, managed Medicare, and Medicaid channels represents approximately 136 million covered lives or 43% of the approximately 314 million covered lives in the US.
Seth Lederman: In Q2 2026, we achieved approximately $11 million in net sales for Tonmya, representing 197% quarter-over-quarter growth. That is approximately triple the net sales of Q1. Additionally, we saw increases across other key metrics. We attribute these results to the patient and prescriber recognition of the value of Tonmya and to our strategic focus and execution. We also had early wins in managed access. We do not believe these wins contributed significantly to Tonmya sales in Q2. However, we are beginning to see their effects in Q3. Currently, Tonmya coverage across commercial, managed Medicare, and Medicaid channels represents approximately 136 million covered lives or 43% of the approximately 314 million covered lives in the US.
Speaker #3: Additionally, we saw increases across other key metrics. We attribute these results to patient and prescriber recognition of the value of Tanmaya, and to our strategic focus and execution.
Speaker #3: We also had early wins in managed access. We do not believe these wins contributed significantly to Tanmaya's sales in Q2. However, we are beginning to see their effects in Q3.
Speaker #3: Currently, Tanmaya's coverage across commercial, managed Medicare, and Medicaid channels represents approximately 136 million covered lives, or 43% of the approximately 314 million covered lives in the United States.
Seth Lederman: On 1 January 2027, when our managed Medicare GPO coverage agreement becomes effective, Tonmya coverage will represent approximately 145 million covered lives or approximately 46% of the covered lives in the US. We believe this broad coverage lays the foundation for growth in patient access and net sales for the rest of the year and beyond. This coverage led us to activate our planned sales force expansion, which will be fully implemented by September. Tom will dive deeper into the field dynamics and expectations for the rest of the year. As we execute on our commercial launch, we are also strategically advancing certain development stage programs. Tonix's pipeline includes a carefully selected group of therapeutic and preventative development stage candidates, each targeting large therapeutic or preventative areas of unmet need. Each of these agents are potentially first in class or best in class.
Seth Lederman: On 1 January 2027, when our managed Medicare GPO coverage agreement becomes effective, Tonmya coverage will represent approximately 145 million covered lives or approximately 46% of the covered lives in the US. We believe this broad coverage lays the foundation for growth in patient access and net sales for the rest of the year and beyond. This coverage led us to activate our planned sales force expansion, which will be fully implemented by September. Tom will dive deeper into the field dynamics and expectations for the rest of the year. As we execute on our commercial launch, we are also strategically advancing certain development stage programs. Tonix's pipeline includes a carefully selected group of therapeutic and preventative development stage candidates, each targeting large therapeutic or preventative areas of unmet need.
Speaker #3: On January 1, 2027, when our managed Medicare GPO coverage agreement becomes effective, Tanmaya coverage will represent approximately 145 million covered lives or approximately 46% of the covered lives in the United States.
Speaker #3: We believe this broad coverage lays the foundation for growth in patient access and net sales, for the rest of the year and beyond. This coverage led us to activate our planned Salesforce expansion which will be fully implemented by September.
Speaker #3: Tom will dive deeper into the field dynamics and expectations for the rest of the year. As we execute on our commercial launch, we are also strategically advancing certain development-stage programs.
Speaker #3: Tonix's pipeline includes a carefully selected group of therapeutic and preventative development stage candidates each targeting large therapeutic or preventative areas of unmet need. Each of these agents are potentially first-in-class or best-in-class.
Seth Lederman: Each of these agents are potentially first in class or best in class. In 2026, we have focused our resources primarily on TNX-102 SL, which is sublingual cyclobenzaprine tablets, which is a potential new indication for Tonmya for the treatment of Major Depressive Disorder or MDD, and TNX-4800, a long-acting monoclonal antibody for the prevention of Lyme disease. In Q2 and early Q3, we made substantial headway on both programs. For TNX-102 SL and MDD, we randomized the first patient in Q2. For TNX-4800 in Lyme disease prevention, we held a constructive Type C FDA meeting and received positive final minutes on our planned adaptive phase II study, which we expect to begin enrolling in Q1 2027. I will now turn the call over to Thomas Englese, EVP Commercial Operations, to discuss the Tonmya launch. Tom?
Speaker #3: In 2026, we have focused our resources primarily on TNX102SL, which is sublingual cyclobenzaprine tablets, which is a potential new indication for Tanmaya for the treatment of major depressive disorder or MDD.
Seth Lederman: In 2026, we have focused our resources primarily on TNX-102 SL, which is sublingual cyclobenzaprine tablets, which is a potential new indication for Tonmya for the treatment of Major Depressive Disorder or MDD, and TNX-4800, a long-acting monoclonal antibody for the prevention of Lyme disease. In Q2 and early Q3, we made substantial headway on both programs. For TNX-102 SL and MDD, we randomized the first patient in Q2. For TNX-4800 in Lyme disease prevention, we held a constructive Type C FDA meeting and received positive final minutes on our planned adaptive phase II study, which we expect to begin enrolling in Q1 2027. I will now turn the call over to Thomas Englese, EVP Commercial Operations, to discuss the Tonmya launch. Tom?
Speaker #3: And TNX4800, a long-acting monoclonal antibody for the prevention of Lyme disease. In the second quarter and early third quarter, we made substantial headline headway on both programs.
Speaker #3: For TNX102SL and MDD, we randomized the first patient in the second quarter. For TNX4800, in Lyme disease prevention, prevention, we held a constructive type C FDA meeting and received positive final minutes on our planned adaptive phase 2 study which we expect to begin enrolling in the first quarter of 2027.
Speaker #3: I will now turn the call over to Tom and Gleise, EVP Commercial Operations, to discuss the Tanmaya launch. Tom?
Speaker #2: Thank you, Seth, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will review our second quarter sales performance for Tanmaya. And then I will cover our launch strategy.
Thomas Englese: Thank you, Seth, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will review our Q2 sales performance for Tonmya, and then I will cover our launch strategy. We are pleased to offer Tonmya as a treatment to adult fibromyalgia patients. Looking at slide four, we are encouraged to see net sales of $11 million for Tonmya in Q2, representing 197% quarter-over-quarter growth, or nearly triple Q1. There are a few contributing factors to note. First, we are seeing proactive patient and prescriber hand raisers interested in Tonmya, and we're gaining traction with our HCP target list. Second, gross to net in both Q1 and Q2 have been driven by a favorable mix between the retail and specialty distribution channels and lower co-pay buydowns related to stronger than expected prior authorization approvals.
Thomas Englese: Thank you, Seth, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will review our Q2 sales performance for Tonmya, and then I will cover our launch strategy. We are pleased to offer Tonmya as a treatment to adult fibromyalgia patients. Looking at slide four, we are encouraged to see net sales of $11 million for Tonmya in Q2, representing 197% quarter-over-quarter growth, or nearly triple Q1. There are a few contributing factors to note. First, we are seeing proactive patient and prescriber hand raisers interested in Tonmya, and we're gaining traction with our HCP target list. Second, gross to net in both Q1 and Q2 have been driven by a favorable mix between the retail and specialty distribution channels and lower co-pay buydowns related to stronger than expected prior authorization approvals.
Speaker #2: We are pleased to offer Tanmaya as a treatment to adult fibromyalgia patients. Looking at slide 4, we are encouraged to see net sales of $11 million for Tanmaya in the second quarter.
Speaker #2: Representing 197% quarter-over-quarter growth, or nearly triple the first quarter. There are a few contributing factors to note. First, we are seeing proactive patient and prescriber hand raisers, interested in Tanmaya, and we're gaining traction with our HCP target list.
Speaker #2: Second, gross-to-net in both Q1 and Q2 has been driven by a favorable mix between the retail and specialty distribution channels, and lower copay buydowns related to stronger-than-expected prior authorization approvals.
Speaker #2: We have historically shared that we expect fluctuations quarter over quarter, as is common early in commercial launches. We expect continued fluctuations for gross-to-net in both Q3 and Q4.
Thomas Englese: We have historically shared that we expect fluctuations quarter-over-quarter, as is common early in commercial launches. We expect continued fluctuations for gross to net in both Q3 and Q4. Now we'll look at our key performance indicators for Tonmya. In Q2, we saw positive trends across prescriptions, new patient starts, and refills. Prescriptions for the quarter totaled 12,592, increasing 100% quarter-over-quarter. New patient prescriptions increased 36% quarter-over-quarter, and refills increased 207% quarter-over-quarter. We continue to see increases in the number of prescriptions per patient, which we attribute to the benefits and tolerability of Tonmya and our patient support program. We will now walk you through our strategy regarding market access, sales, and marketing on slide five.
Thomas Englese: We have historically shared that we expect fluctuations quarter-over-quarter, as is common early in commercial launches. We expect continued fluctuations for gross to net in both Q3 and Q4. Now we'll look at our key performance indicators for Tonmya. In Q2, we saw positive trends across prescriptions, new patient starts, and refills. Prescriptions for the quarter totaled 12,592, increasing 100% quarter-over-quarter. New patient prescriptions increased 36% quarter-over-quarter, and refills increased 207% quarter-over-quarter. We continue to see increases in the number of prescriptions per patient, which we attribute to the benefits and tolerability of Tonmya and our patient support program. We will now walk you through our strategy regarding market access, sales, and marketing on slide five.
Speaker #2: Now, we'll look at our key performance indicators for Tanmaya. In the second quarter, we saw positive trends across prescriptions, new patient starts, and refills.
Speaker #2: Prescriptions for the quarter totaled 12,592, increasing 100% quarter-over-quarter. New patient prescriptions increased 36% quarter-over-quarter, and refills increased 207% quarter-over-quarter. We continue to see increases in the number of prescriptions per patient, which we attribute to the benefits and tolerability of Tanmaya and our patient support program.
Speaker #2: We will now walk you through our strategy regarding market access, sales, and marketing on slide 5. First, we've already reached major market access coverage milestones.
Speaker #2: Which we believe speaks to the value of Tanmaya. We signed commercial pay agreements with two leading GPOs. These agreements which went into effect on May 1 and June 1, 2026, cover 52 million lives.
Thomas Englese: We signed commercial pay agreements with two leading GPOs. These agreements, which went into effect on 01 May and 01 June 2026, cover 52 million lives. We also signed a major managed Medicare agreement, which will cover approximately nine million Medicare lives beginning 01 January 2027. Tonmya is also available under Medicaid in most states. We expect downstream pull-through from these agreements to begin to materialize in Q3 and Q4 of 2026. Our strategy has been to secure market access as early as possible so that the availability of insurance reimbursement could match patient demand. As our team brings these coverage agreements online, we expect patient access to become more robust. We have seen favorable rates of prior authorization submissions and approvals across commercial payers and Medicare and strong usage of our co-pay assistance and savings programs in the commercial population.
Thomas Englese: We signed commercial pay agreements with two leading GPOs. These agreements, which went into effect on 01 May and 01 June 2026, cover 52 million lives. We also signed a major managed Medicare agreement, which will cover approximately nine million Medicare lives beginning 01 January 2027. Tonmya is also available under Medicaid in most states. We expect downstream pull-through from these agreements to begin to materialize in Q3 and Q4 of 2026. Our strategy has been to secure market access as early as possible so that the availability of insurance reimbursement could match patient demand.
Speaker #2: We also signed a major managed Medicare agreement, which will cover approximately 9 million Medicare lives beginning January 1, 2027. Tanmaya is also available under Medicaid in most states.
Speaker #2: We expect downstream pull-through for these agreements to begin to materialize in the third and fourth quarters of 2026. Our strategy has been to secure market access as early as possible so that the availability of insurance reimbursement could match patient demand.
Speaker #2: As our team brings these coverage agreements online, we expect patient access to become more robust. We have seen favorable rates of prior authorization submissions and approvals across commercial payers and Medicare, and strong usage of our copay assistance and savings programs in the commercial population.
Thomas Englese: As our team brings these coverage agreements online, we expect patient access to become more robust. We have seen favorable rates of prior authorization submissions and approvals across commercial payers and Medicare and strong usage of our co-pay assistance and savings programs in the commercial population.
Speaker #2: Altogether, we expect these trends to serve as the catalyst to unlock the next stages of the launch, which is sales and targeting. We've been planning to expand our Salesforce after securing coverage.
Thomas Englese: Altogether, we expect these trends to serve as the catalyst to unlock the next stages of the launch, which is sales and targeting. We've been planning to expand our sales force after securing coverage. Following the access wins, we are adding 50 sales reps who will be in the field by September. This expansion will enable us to increase our presence in previously uncovered geographies and increase our breadth and depth in existing dense geographies. By September, our field force will be roughly 150 reps, primarily engaged through our contract partner. Each of these contract reps is exclusively dedicated to Tonmya and do not support any other company or product. Over time, we expect to bring high-performing reps in-house to Tonix. The entire sales force management team has recently been brought in-house at Tonix. We are committed to quality and consistency of tactical execution.
Thomas Englese: Altogether, we expect these trends to serve as the catalyst to unlock the next stages of the launch, which is sales and targeting. We've been planning to expand our sales force after securing coverage. Following the access wins, we are adding 50 sales reps who will be in the field by September. This expansion will enable us to increase our presence in previously uncovered geographies and increase our breadth and depth in existing dense geographies. By September, our field force will be roughly 150 reps, primarily engaged through our contract partner. Each of these contract reps is exclusively dedicated to Tonmya and do not support any other company or product. Over time, we expect to bring high-performing reps in-house to Tonix. The entire sales force management team has recently been brought in-house at Tonix. We are committed to quality and consistency of tactical execution.
Speaker #2: Following the access wins, we are adding 50 sales reps who will be in the field by September. This expansion will enable us to increase our presence in previously uncovered geographies and increase our breadth and depth in existing dense geographies.
Speaker #2: By September, our field force will be roughly 150 reps primarily engaged through our contract partner. Each of these contract reps is exclusively dedicated to Tanmaya and do not support any other company or product.
Speaker #2: Over time, we expect to bring high-performing reps in-house to Tonix. The entire Salesforce management team has recently been brought in-house at Tonix. We are committed to quality and consistency of tactical execution.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, we are initially targeting 25,000 HCPs who write approximately 70% of the fibromyalgia treatment prescriptions. We continue to focus on engaging priority HCPs and supporting prescribing for appropriate patients, consistent with approved labeling.
Thomas Englese: As a reminder, we are initially targeting the 25,000 HCPs who write approximately 70% of the fibromyalgia treatment prescriptions. We continue to focus on engaging priority HCPs and supporting prescribing for appropriate patients consistent with approved labeling. We are hearing supportive feedback from prescribers that Tonmya is a welcome new treatment option for their patients. Moving to marketing, our efforts have focused on an unbranded digital disease awareness campaign called Move Fibro Forward, DTC social advertising, influencer programs, and peer-to-peer KOL speaker programs. Highlights in Q2 include programs such as our KOL speaker bureau, a Reddit Ask Me Anything program, influencer ads, and a digital HCP webcast. Looking ahead, we are excited to further advance the launch of Tonmya. I will now turn the call back to Seth to discuss medical affairs. Seth?
Thomas Englese: As a reminder, we are initially targeting the 25,000 HCPs who write approximately 70% of the fibromyalgia treatment prescriptions. We continue to focus on engaging priority HCPs and supporting prescribing for appropriate patients consistent with approved labeling. We are hearing supportive feedback from prescribers that Tonmya is a welcome new treatment option for their patients. Moving to marketing, our efforts have focused on an unbranded digital disease awareness campaign called Move Fibro Forward, DTC social advertising, influencer programs, and peer-to-peer KOL speaker programs. Highlights in Q2 include programs such as our KOL speaker bureau, a Reddit Ask Me Anything program, influencer ads, and a digital HCP webcast. Looking ahead, we are excited to further advance the launch of Tonmya. I will now turn the call back to Seth to discuss medical affairs. Seth?
Speaker #2: We are hearing supportive feedback from prescribers that Tanmaya is a welcome new treatment option for their patients. Moving to marketing, our efforts have focused on an unbranded digital disease awareness campaign called Move Fibro Forward.
Speaker #2: DTC social advertising, influencer programs, and peer-to-peer KOL speaker programs. Highlights in Q2 include programs such as our KOL speaker bureau, a Reddit Ask Me Anything program, influencer ads, and a digital HCP webcast.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, we are excited to further advance the launch of Tanmaya. I will now turn the call back to Seth to discuss medical affairs.
Speaker #2: Seth?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tom. Medical Affairs is making headway—excuse me—with KOL engagements and education through conference symposia and data presentations. A key focus of our efforts has been on raising awareness among HCPs for the current fibromyalgia diagnostic criteria, which state fibromyalgia is not a diagnosis of exclusion.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Tom. Medical affairs is making headway, excuse me, with KOL engagements and education through conference symposia and data presentations. A key focus of our efforts has been on raising awareness among HCPs for the current fibromyalgia diagnostic criteria that state fibromyalgia is not a diagnosis of exclusion. The outdated conception that fibromyalgia was a diagnosis of exclusion created a barrier to diagnosis for two reasons. First, a diagnosis of exclusion was an unreasonable standard because no amount of lab tests or imaging can prove a negative. Second, the medical community now recognizes that fibromyalgia commonly occurs in the context of other conditions, including long COVID, chronic Lyme, systemic lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and cancer. This means that these other diagnoses should not exclude the diagnosis of fibromyalgia.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Tom. Medical affairs is making headway, excuse me, with KOL engagements and education through conference symposia and data presentations. A key focus of our efforts has been on raising awareness among HCPs for the current fibromyalgia diagnostic criteria that state fibromyalgia is not a diagnosis of exclusion. The outdated conception that fibromyalgia was a diagnosis of exclusion created a barrier to diagnosis for two reasons. First, a diagnosis of exclusion was an unreasonable standard because no amount of lab tests or imaging can prove a negative. Second, the medical community now recognizes that fibromyalgia commonly occurs in the context of other conditions, including long COVID, chronic Lyme, systemic lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and cancer. This means that these other diagnoses should not exclude the diagnosis of fibromyalgia.
Speaker #3: The outdated conception that fibromyalgia was a diagnosis of exclusion created a barrier to diagnosis for two reasons. First, a diagnosis of exclusion was an unreasonable standard because no amount of lab tests or imaging can prove a negative.
Speaker #3: Second, the medical community now recognizes that fibromyalgia commonly occurs in the context of other conditions, including long COVID, chronic Lyme, systemic lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and cancer.
Speaker #3: This means that these other diagnoses should not exclude the diagnosis of fibromyalgia. We believe broader understanding of the current diagnostic criteria could meaningfully grow the addressable fibromyalgia patient population and help patients get diagnosed and treated earlier in the course of their condition.
Seth Lederman: We believe broader understanding of the current diagnostic criteria could meaningfully grow the addressable fibromyalgia patient population and help patients get diagnosed and treated earlier in the course of their condition. It currently takes, on average, over six years for patients to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Moving on from medical affairs, I now want to update you on the pipeline. We are advancing our development pipeline. Today, I will focus on TNX-102 SL and TNX-4800. Moving to slide six, TNX-102 SL for the treatment of MDD could potentially serve as a label expansion for Tonmya. In June, we randomized the first patient in HORIZON, a potentially pivotal phase II study evaluating TNX-102 SL as first-line monotherapy in adults with MDD. We are targeting the enrollment of approximately 360 patients in the US. Eligible participants must be 18 years of age or older, currently experiencing a moderate to severe major depressive episode.
Seth Lederman: We believe broader understanding of the current diagnostic criteria could meaningfully grow the addressable fibromyalgia patient population and help patients get diagnosed and treated earlier in the course of their condition. It currently takes, on average, over six years for patients to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Moving on from medical affairs, I now want to update you on the pipeline. We are advancing our development pipeline. Today, I will focus on TNX-102 SL and TNX-4800. Moving to slide six, TNX-102 SL for the treatment of MDD could potentially serve as a label expansion for Tonmya. In June, we randomized the first patient in HORIZON, a potentially pivotal phase II study evaluating TNX-102 SL as first-line monotherapy in adults with MDD. We are targeting the enrollment of approximately 360 patients in the US.
Speaker #3: It currently takes, on average, over six years for patients to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Moving on from medical affairs, I now want to update you on the pipeline.
Speaker #3: We are advancing our development pipeline. Today, I will focus on TNX-102 SL and TNX-4800. Moving to slide 6, TNX-102 SL for the treatment of MDD could potentially serve as a label expansion for Tonmya.
Speaker #3: In June, we randomized the first patient in Horizon, a potentially pivotal Phase 2 study evaluating TNX-102 SL as first-line monotherapy in adults with MDD.
Speaker #3: We are targeting the enrollment of approximately 360 patients in the U.S. Eligible participants must be 18 years of age or older and currently experiencing a moderate to severe major depressive episode.
Seth Lederman: Eligible participants must be 18 years of age or older, currently experiencing a moderate to severe major depressive episode. Participants are being randomized to receive TNX-102 SL 5.6 milligrams taken sublingually at bedtime or matching placebo. The primary endpoint of the study is the change from baseline in MADRS total score at week six. Secondary endpoints include global impression scores, anxiety ratings, and measures of sleep quality. We are evaluating TNX-102 SL for MDD based on initial signals observed in previous Tonix phase II and III studies, in which TNX-102 SL nominally improved depression symptoms in fibromyalgia patients and PTSD patients. TNX-102 SL was designed to target the disturbed sleep in fibromyalgia. If TNX-102 SL has effects on depression, we believe targeting sleep would be a novel mechanism.
Seth Lederman: Participants are being randomized to receive TNX-102 SL 5.6 milligrams taken sublingually at bedtime or matching placebo. The primary endpoint of the study is the change from baseline in MADRS total score at week six. Secondary endpoints include global impression scores, anxiety ratings, and measures of sleep quality. We are evaluating TNX-102 SL for MDD based on initial signals observed in previous Tonix phase II and III studies, in which TNX-102 SL nominally improved depression symptoms in fibromyalgia patients and PTSD patients. TNX-102 SL was designed to target the disturbed sleep in fibromyalgia. If TNX-102 SL has effects on depression, we believe targeting sleep would be a novel mechanism. The use of SSRIs and SNRIs for depression are frequently associated with treatment-emergent insomnia. Another Tonmya label extension is acute stress disorder and acute stress reaction.
Speaker #3: Participants are being randomized to receive TNX-102 SL, 5.6 milligrams, taken sublingually at bedtime, or matching placebo. The primary endpoint of the study is the change from baseline in MADRS total score at week 6.
Speaker #3: Secondary endpoints include global impression scores, anxiety ratings, and measures of sleep quality. We are evaluating TNX 102 SL for MDD based on initial signals observed in previous Tonix phase 2 and 3 studies in which TNX 102 SL nominally improved depression symptoms in fibromyalgia patients and PTSD patients.
Speaker #3: TNX 102 SL was designed to target the disturbed sleep in fibromyalgia. If TNX 102 SL has effects on depression, then we believe targeting sleep would be a novel mechanism.
Speaker #3: The use of SSRIs and SNRIs for depression is frequently associated with treatment-emergent insomnia. Another Tonmaya label extension is acute stress disorder and acute stress reaction.
Seth Lederman: The use of SSRIs and SNRIs for depression are frequently associated with treatment-emergent insomnia. Another Tonmya label extension is acute stress disorder and acute stress reaction. An investigator-initiated phase II study called OASIS is enrolling at the University of North Carolina, funded by a United States Department of Defense grant to University of North Carolina, for which we expect to report top-line data in mid-2027. I'll move to slide seven to discuss TNX-4800, our long-acting monoclonal antibody for the prevention of Lyme disease. Positive FDA meeting minutes demonstrate alignment on the key elements of our adaptive phase II study design and support study start in Q1 2027. Currently, no FDA-approved vaccines or prophylactics for Lyme disease are available.
Speaker #3: An investigator-initiated Phase 2 study called OASIS is enrolling at the University of North Carolina, funded by a United States Department of Defense grant to the University of North Carolina.
Seth Lederman: An investigator-initiated phase II study called OASIS is enrolling at the University of North Carolina, funded by a United States Department of Defense grant to University of North Carolina, for which we expect to report top-line data in mid-2027. I'll move to slide seven to discuss TNX-4800, our long-acting monoclonal antibody for the prevention of Lyme disease. Positive FDA meeting minutes demonstrate alignment on the key elements of our adaptive phase II study design and support study start in Q1 2027. Currently, no FDA-approved vaccines or prophylactics for Lyme disease are available. We believe TNX-4800 could potentially change the prevention paradigm. It targets the outer surface protein A, or OspA, on the Lyme-causing Borrelia bacteria. One type of Borrelia burgdorferi, causes 99.9% of Lyme disease cases in the US.
Speaker #3: And we and for which we expect to report top-line data in mid-2027. Now I'll move to slide 7 to discuss TNX 4800, our long-acting monoclonal antibody for the treatment of Lyme disease.
Speaker #3: For the prevention of Lyme disease, positive FDA meeting minutes demonstrate alignment on the key elements of our adaptive Phase 2 study design and support study start in the first quarter of 2027.
Speaker #3: Currently, no FDA-approved vaccines or prophylaxis prophylactics for Lyme disease are available. We believe TNX 4800 could potentially change the prevention paradigm. It targets the outer surface protein A or OSP A on the Lyme-causing Borrelia bacteria.
Seth Lederman: We believe TNX-4800 could potentially change the prevention paradigm. It targets the outer surface protein A, or OspA, on the Lyme-causing Borrelia bacteria. One type of Borrelia burgdorferi, causes 99.9% of Lyme disease cases in the US.
Speaker #3: One type of Borrelia, Borrelia burgdorferi, causes 99.9% of Lyme disease cases in the United States. TNX-4800 is designed to act in the midgut of the Borrelia-infected deer tick.
Seth Lederman: TNX-4800 is designed to act in the midgut of the Borrelia-infected deer tick. If someone is treated with TNX-4800 before getting bitten by the tick, the tick sucks 4800 containing blood into its midgut. TNX-4800 either kills or blocks the maturation of Borrelia burgdorferi in the midgut of infected deer ticks while they are sucking the victim's blood. This mechanism blocks transmission and infection. OspA is a validated target for antibodies. TNX-4800 is engineered for an extended half-life to provide a longer duration of protection after dosing relative to standard monoclonals. As a monoclonal antibody, we believe TNX-4800 has important advantages over vaccines, namely that it provides protection within 2 days after 1 dose compared to a prior vaccine or a vaccine in development that takes 3 or 4 separate immunizations over at least 6 months to provide protection.
Seth Lederman: TNX-4800 is designed to act in the midgut of the Borrelia-infected deer tick. If someone is treated with TNX-4800 before getting bitten by the tick, the tick sucks 4800 containing blood into its midgut. TNX-4800 either kills or blocks the maturation of Borrelia burgdorferi in the midgut of infected deer ticks while they are sucking the victim's blood. This mechanism blocks transmission and infection. OspA is a validated target for antibodies. TNX-4800 is engineered for an extended half-life to provide a longer duration of protection after dosing relative to standard monoclonals. As a monoclonal antibody, we believe TNX-4800 has important advantages over vaccines, namely that it provides protection within 2 days after 1 dose compared to a prior vaccine or a vaccine in development that takes 3 or 4 separate immunizations over at least 6 months to provide protection.
Speaker #3: If someone is treated with TNX-4800 before getting bitten by the tick, then the tick sucks 4800-containing blood into its midgut. TNX-4800 either kills or blocks the maturation of Borrelia burgdorferi in the midgut of infected deer ticks while they are sucking the victim's blood.
Speaker #3: This mechanism blocks transmission and infection. OspA is a validated target for antibodies. TNX-4800 is engineered for an extended half-life to provide a longer duration of protection after dosing, relative to standard monoclonals.
Speaker #3: As a monoclonal antibody, we believe TNX-4800 has important advantages over vaccines, namely that it provides protection within two days after one dose, compared to a prior vaccine or a vaccine in development that takes three or four separate immunizations over at least six months to provide protection.
Speaker #3: Also, TNX-4800 does not require a host immune response like vaccines. That means it doesn't depend on the host's immune system, which is known to be less active in older people and people with certain conditions.
Seth Lederman: TNX-4800 does not require a host immune response like vaccines. That means it doesn't depend on the host's immune system, which is known to be less active in older people and people with certain conditions. After reporting phase I data earlier this year and meeting with the FDA in early Q3, we now have a clear view of our planned phase II study. Pending FDA agreement on the final study protocol, we plan to conduct a randomized, placebo-controlled adaptive field study. We expect to enroll approximately 3,300 adult participants. These volunteers, aged 18 and older, will be recruited from Lyme-endemic areas in the US and selected for their engagement in activities that increase their risk of deer tick bites. We expect this to be a 2-season study and expect to enroll the majority of participants in 2028.
Seth Lederman: TNX-4800 does not require a host immune response like vaccines. That means it doesn't depend on the host's immune system, which is known to be less active in older people and people with certain conditions. After reporting phase I data earlier this year and meeting with the FDA in early Q3, we now have a clear view of our planned phase II study. Pending FDA agreement on the final study protocol, we plan to conduct a randomized, placebo-controlled adaptive field study. We expect to enroll approximately 3,300 adult participants. These volunteers, aged 18 and older, will be recruited from Lyme-endemic areas in the US and selected for their engagement in activities that increase their risk of deer tick bites. We expect this to be a 2-season study and expect to enroll the majority of participants in 2028.
Speaker #3: After reporting Phase 1 data earlier this year and meeting with the FDA in early Q3, we now have a clear view of our planned Phase 2 study.
Speaker #3: Pending FDA agreement on the final study protocol, we plan to conduct a randomized placebo-controlled adaptive field study. We expect to enroll approximately 3,300 adult participants.
Speaker #3: These participants these volunteers age 18 and older will be recruited from Lyme endemic areas in the US and selected for their engagement and activities that increase their risk of deer tick bites.
Speaker #3: We expect this to be a two-season study and expect to enroll the majority of participants in 2028. If the attack rate is lower than planned, enrollment could potentially extend into 2029.
Seth Lederman: If the attack rate is lower than planned, enrollment could potentially extend into 2029. The primary efficacy endpoint will be Lyme disease prevention through 6 months after the 1st dose, and a key secondary efficacy endpoint will be prevention through 3 months. Although it is a phase II study, we believe it has the potential to demonstrate efficacy. The primary safety objective will be to evaluate the safety and tolerability of TNX-4800 over a 52-week period after dosing. Participants in the planned adaptive phase II field study will be randomized 1-to-1 to receive either placebo or TNX-4800 450 milligrams sub Q in the spring and another dose approximately 3 months later. Our focus in 2026 has been on manufacturing investigational product for TNX-4800, which is on track for delivery to study sites in Q1 2027.
Seth Lederman: If the attack rate is lower than planned, enrollment could potentially extend into 2029. The primary efficacy endpoint will be Lyme disease prevention through 6 months after the 1st dose, and a key secondary efficacy endpoint will be prevention through 3 months. Although it is a phase II study, we believe it has the potential to demonstrate efficacy. The primary safety objective will be to evaluate the safety and tolerability of TNX-4800 over a 52-week period after dosing. Participants in the planned adaptive phase II field study will be randomized 1-to-1 to receive either placebo or TNX-4800 450 milligrams sub Q in the spring and another dose approximately 3 months later. Our focus in 2026 has been on manufacturing investigational product for TNX-4800, which is on track for delivery to study sites in Q1 2027.
Speaker #3: The primary efficacy endpoint will be Lyme disease prevention through six months after the first dose, and a key secondary efficacy endpoint will be prevention through three months.
Speaker #3: Although it is a Phase 2 study, we believe that it has the potential to demonstrate efficacy. The primary safety objective will be to evaluate the safety and tolerability of TNX-4800 over a 52-week period after dosing.
Speaker #3: Participants in the planned adaptive phase 2 field study will be randomized one-to-one to receive either placebo or TNX 4800 450 milligrams sub-Q in the spring and another dose approximately three months later.
Speaker #3: Our focus in 2026 has been on manufacturing investigational product for TNX-4800, which is on track for delivery to study sites in the first quarter of 2027.
Speaker #3: With that, I will turn the call over to Bradley Sanger, our Chief Financial Officer, to review our financial results. Bradley?
Seth Lederman: With that, I will turn the call over to Bradley Saenger, our Chief Financial Officer, to review our financial results. Bradley?
Seth Lederman: With that, I will turn the call over to Bradley Saenger, our Chief Financial Officer, to review our financial results. Bradley?
Speaker #2: Thank you, Seth. And good morning, everyone. On slide 8, I will review the financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2026. Net product revenue for the second quarter of 2026 was approximately $13.5 million, which consisted of approximately $11 million from Tanmaya and $2.5 million from Zembrade SimTouch and Tesimra, which are our migraine products.
Bradley Saenger: Thank you, Seth. Good morning, everyone. On slide eight, I will review the financial results for Q2 ended 30 June 2026. Net product revenue for Q2 2026 was approximately $13.5 million, which consisted of approximately $11 million from Tonmya and $2.5 million from Zembrace SymTouch and Tosymra, which are our migraine products. This compares to $2 million for the same period in 2025, which consisted only of Zembrace and Tosymra. Tonmya was approved last August and launched in November, and Q2 2026 was Tonmya's second full quarter of sales after launch. Cost of sales for Q2 was approximately $0.7 million, compared to $3.3 million for the same period in 2025. The decrease in the cost of sales was predominantly driven by a change in product mix and a write-off of migraine products in 2025.
Bradley Saenger: Thank you, Seth. Good morning, everyone. On slide eight, I will review the financial results for Q2 ended 30 June 2026. Net product revenue for Q2 2026 was approximately $13.5 million, which consisted of approximately $11 million from Tonmya and $2.5 million from Zembrace SymTouch and Tosymra, which are our migraine products. This compares to $2 million for the same period in 2025, which consisted only of Zembrace and Tosymra. Tonmya was approved last August and launched in November, and Q2 2026 was Tonmya's second full quarter of sales after launch. Cost of sales for Q2 was approximately $0.7 million, compared to $3.3 million for the same period in 2025. The decrease in the cost of sales was predominantly driven by a change in product mix and a write-off of migraine products in 2025.
Speaker #2: This compares to $2 million for the same period in 2025 which consisted only of Zembrade and Tesimra. Tanmaya was approved last August and launched in November, and the second quarter of 2026 was Tanmaya's second full quarter of sales, after launch.
Speaker #2: Cost of sales for the second quarter was approximately $0.7 million, compared to $3.3 million for the same period in 2025. The decrease in cost of sales was predominantly driven by a change in product mix and a write-off of migraine products in 2025.
Bradley Saenger: Research and development expenses were approximately $19.4 million, compared to $10.8 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was primarily driven by higher manufacturing and clinical expenses, reflecting pipeline prioritization along with increased employee-related costs from higher headcount. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were approximately $36 million, compared to $16.2 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was primarily driven by sales and marketing investment behind the launch of Tonmya and our migraine products, together with higher employee-related and professional expenses. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with approximately $176.2 million in cash and cash equivalents as of 30 June 2026, compared to approximately $207.6 million as of 31 December 2025.
Bradley Saenger: Research and development expenses were approximately $19.4 million, compared to $10.8 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was primarily driven by higher manufacturing and clinical expenses, reflecting pipeline prioritization along with increased employee-related costs from higher headcount. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were approximately $36 million, compared to $16.2 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was primarily driven by sales and marketing investment behind the launch of Tonmya and our migraine products, together with higher employee-related and professional expenses. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with approximately $176.2 million in cash and cash equivalents as of 30 June 2026, compared to approximately $207.6 million as of 31 December 2025.
Speaker #2: Research and development expenses were approximately $19.4 million compared to $10.8 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was preliminary driven by higher manufacturing and clinical expenses reflecting pipeline prioritization along with increase employee-related costs from higher headcount.
Speaker #2: Selling, general, and administrative expenses were approximately $36 million, compared to $16.2 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was primarily driven by sales and marketing investments behind the launch of Tanmaya and our migraine products, together with higher employee-related and professional expenses.
Speaker #2: Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with approximately $176.2 million in cash and cash equivalents as of June 30th, 2026 compared to approximately $207.6 million as of December 31st, 2025.
Speaker #2: We expect our cash resources as of June 30, 2026, together with net proceeds from equity offerings subsequent to June 30, 2026, to fund our planned operating and capital expenditure requirements into the early second quarter of 2027.
Bradley Saenger: We expect our cash resources as of 30 June 2026, together with net proceeds from equity offerings subsequent to 30 June 2026, to fund our planned operating and capital expenditure requirements into early Q2 2027. With that, I will turn the call back to Seth for closing remarks. Seth?
Bradley Saenger: We expect our cash resources as of 30 June 2026, together with net proceeds from equity offerings subsequent to 30 June 2026, to fund our planned operating and capital expenditure requirements into early Q2 2027. With that, I will turn the call back to Seth for closing remarks. Seth?
Speaker #2: With that, I will turn the call back to Seth for closing remarks. Seth?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Bradley. We'll move to slide 9. In the second quarter, we delivered progress on the launch of Tanmaya and on the development of two of our mid-stage clinical development programs: TNX-102 SL for the treatment of MDD, and TNX-4800 to prevent Lyme disease in the United States.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Bradley. We'll move to slide nine. In Q2, we delivered progress on the launch of Tonmya and on the development of two of our mid-stage clinical development programs, TNX-102 SL for the treatment of MDD and TNX-4800 to prevent Lyme disease in the United States. We entered the H2 of 2026 with meaningful momentum. Our strategic priorities are clear: deliver on the promise of Tonmya, advance the development of our mid-stage clinical programs, and drive sustainable growth to create value for all shareholders. Patients remain at the forefront of our work, and our team is dedicated to supporting them. For Tonmya, we remain focused on driving growth across net sales and KPIs, working to secure patient access and deploying our expanded sales force. For TNX-102 SL, we will continue to execute on the enrollment of the potentially pivotal phase II study in MDD.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Bradley. We'll move to slide nine. In Q2, we delivered progress on the launch of Tonmya and on the development of two of our mid-stage clinical development programs, TNX-102 SL for the treatment of MDD and TNX-4800 to prevent Lyme disease in the United States. We entered the H2 of 2026 with meaningful momentum. Our strategic priorities are clear: deliver on the promise of Tonmya, advance the development of our mid-stage clinical programs, and drive sustainable growth to create value for all shareholders. Patients remain at the forefront of our work, and our team is dedicated to supporting them. For Tonmya, we remain focused on driving growth across net sales and KPIs, working to secure patient access and deploying our expanded sales force. For TNX-102 SL, we will continue to execute on the enrollment of the potentially pivotal phase II study in MDD.
Speaker #3: We entered the second half of 2026 with meaningful momentum. Our strategic priorities are clear. Deliver on the promise of Tanmaya, advance the development of our mid-stage clinical programs, and drive sustainable growth to create value for all shareholders.
Speaker #3: Patients remain at the forefront of our work and our team is dedicated to supporting them. For Tanmaya, we remain focused on driving growth across net sales and KPIs working to secure patient access and deploying our expanded sales force.
Speaker #3: For TNX 102 SL, we will continue to execute on the enrollment of the potentially pivotal phase 2 study in MDD. For TNX 4800, we are manufacturing the investigational product in 2026 to begin the adaptive phase 2 field study in preventing Lyme disease in the first quarter of 2027.
Seth Lederman: For TNX-4800, we are manufacturing the investigational product in 2026 to begin the adaptive phase II field study in preventing Lyme disease in Q1 of 2027. With that, we will now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator?
Seth Lederman: For TNX-4800, we are manufacturing the investigational product in 2026 to begin the adaptive phase II field study in preventing Lyme disease in Q1 of 2027. With that, we will now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator?
Speaker #3: With that, we will now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator?
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Speaker #1: Our first question comes from Stacey Koo with TD Cowan, your line is open.
Stacy Ku: Hey, good morning. Congratulations on a great quarter, thanks so much for taking our questions. We do have a few. First one is for Tom and Seth. Given the Tonmya launch is going pretty well, can you talk about your current learnings and what strategies you're using to drive patient adoption in fibromyalgia? What has been the early clinical feedback on Tonmya's efficacy and the early durability signals exhibiting encouraging refill dynamics? That's the first on Tonmya. Then as we look to TNX-4800 and Lyme disease, it's been great to get the FDA interaction minutes. First, can you discuss in more detail why you believe the majority of infections will be collected in the first season? Maybe discuss how you're identifying the right sites.
Stacy Ku: Hey, good morning. Congratulations on a great quarter, thanks so much for taking our questions. We do have a few. First one is for Tom and Seth. Given the Tonmya launch is going pretty well, can you talk about your current learnings and what strategies you're using to drive patient adoption in fibromyalgia? What has been the early clinical feedback on Tonmya's efficacy and the early durability signals exhibiting encouraging refill dynamics? That's the first on Tonmya. Then as we look to TNX-4800 and Lyme disease, it's been great to get the FDA interaction minutes. First, can you discuss in more detail why you believe the majority of infections will be collected in the first season? Maybe discuss how you're identifying the right sites.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. Congratulations on a great quarter, and thanks so much for taking our questions. We do have a few. The first one is for Tom and Seth.
Speaker #4: Given that Tanmaya launch is going pretty well, can you talk about your current learnings and what strategies you're using to drive patient adoption in fibromyalgia?
Speaker #4: What has been the early clinical feedback on Tanmaya's efficacy and the early durability signals, given encouraging refill dynamics? That's the first on Tanmaya. And then, as we look to 4800 and Lyme, it's been great to get the FDA interaction minutes.
Speaker #4: So first, can you discuss in more detail why you believe the majority of infections will be collected in the first season? Maybe discuss how you're identifying the right sites and then second, do you believe the phase 2 has the potential to be pivotal in Lyme given the patient study size of around 3,300?
Stacy Ku: Second, do you believe the phase II has the potential to be pivotal in Lyme given the patient study size of around 3,300? Thanks so much. Actually before I let you guys answer the questions, just some really quick quarterly clarifications for Tonmya. One, what growth to net range would you expect for Q3 and Q4 given the favorable mix we saw in Q2? Kind of the same question, but what kind of inventory nuances we should consider for Q2? Thanks so much.
Stacy Ku: Second, do you believe the phase II has the potential to be pivotal in Lyme given the patient study size of around 3,300? Thanks so much. Actually before I let you guys answer the questions, just some really quick quarterly clarifications for Tonmya. One, what growth to net range would you expect for Q3 and Q4 given the favorable mix we saw in Q2? Kind of the same question, but what kind of inventory nuances we should consider for Q2? Thanks so much.
Speaker #4: Thanks so much. And then actually before I let you guys answer the questions, just some really quick quarterly clarifications. For Tanmaya, one, what growth to net range would you expect for Q3 and Q4 given the favorable mix we saw in Q2?
Speaker #4: And kind of the same question, but what kind of inventory nuances should we consider for Q2? Thanks so much.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much, Stacey. There are three parts to your question. Tom, would you please address the question about Tanmaya's launch and the early clinical feedback?
Seth Lederman: Thank you very much, Stacy. There are three parts to your question. Tom, would you please address the question about Tonmya's launch-
Seth Lederman: Thank you very much, Stacy. There are three parts to your question. Tom, would you please address the question about Tonmya's launch-
Thomas Englese: Sure
Thomas Englese: Sure
Seth Lederman: The early clinical feedback?
Seth Lederman: The early clinical feedback?
Speaker #2: Yeah, absolutely. Thanks very much. Yeah, so the early feedback we have received from HCPs is that Tanmaya is like I said, a welcome addition and new product into the space.
Thomas Englese: Yeah, absolutely. Thanks very much. Yeah, the early feedback we have received from HCPs is that Tonmya is, like I said, a welcome addition and new product into the space. There hasn't been anything for 15 years. The durability thus far has been very good. We have seen, as you mentioned, a high rate of refills. I really attribute that to the effectiveness of the product and the tolerability of the product, especially. The feedback has been positive. We're going to continue, obviously, to target over time with our sales force those key riders, as I mentioned. We're excited for the additional reps because we can increase our breadth and depth. All in all, signs have been very positive, and the durability and refill signals have been positive as well.
Thomas Englese: Yeah, absolutely. Thanks very much. Yeah, the early feedback we have received from HCPs is that Tonmya is, like I said, a welcome addition and new product into the space. There hasn't been anything for 15 years. The durability thus far has been very good. We have seen, as you mentioned, a high rate of refills. I really attribute that to the effectiveness of the product and the tolerability of the product, especially. The feedback has been positive. We're going to continue, obviously, to target over time with our sales force those key riders, as I mentioned. We're excited for the additional reps because we can increase our breadth and depth. All in all, signs have been very positive, and the durability and refill signals have been positive as well.
Speaker #2: There hasn't been anything for 15 years. The durability thus far has been very good. We have seen as you mentioned, a high rate of refills I really attribute that to the effectiveness of the product and the tolerability of the product, especially.
Speaker #2: So the feedback has been positive. We're going to continue obviously to target over time with our sales force. Those key writers, as I mentioned, and we're excited for the additional reps because we can increase our breadth and depth.
Speaker #2: So, all in all, signs have been very positive, and the durability and refill signals have been positive as well.
Seth Lederman: Great. Thank you, Tom. Stacy, to follow up on your question about Lyme. First of all, now that we have the final FDA minutes, we've gone back to the CROs in the process of bid defense and the rest of it. We're actively working on identifying sites and characteristics of people at risk for deer ticks and Lyme disease. With respect to your question about whether we think it could provide evidence of efficacy, we have stated that in a press release and in our comments today. We do believe that this phase II study can provide evidence of efficacy, and if positive, could be a pivotal study supporting approval of the product.
Seth Lederman: Great. Thank you, Tom. Stacy, to follow up on your question about Lyme. First of all, now that we have the final FDA minutes, we've gone back to the CROs in the process of bid defense and the rest of it. We're actively working on identifying sites and characteristics of people at risk for deer ticks and Lyme disease. With respect to your question about whether we think it could provide evidence of efficacy, we have stated that in a press release and in our comments today. We do believe that this phase II study can provide evidence of efficacy, and if positive, could be a pivotal study supporting approval of the product.
Speaker #3: Great. Thank you, Tom. And Stacey, to follow up on your question about Lyme, first of all, now that we have the final FDA minutes, we've gone back to the CROs in a process of bid defense and the rest of it.
Speaker #3: And we're actively working on identifying sites and characteristics of people at risk for deer ticks and Lyme disease. With respect to your question about whether we think it could provide evidence of efficacy, we have stated that in a press release and in our comments today, and we do believe that this Phase 2 study can provide evidence of efficacy and, if positive, could be a pivotal study supporting approval of the product.
Seth Lederman: The study will be conducted as a potential registrational study. The key question will be whether we accumulate enough events, which is mostly driven by Lyme disease cases in the placebo group in our observation period. Now let me turn the third part over about the quarterly gross to net back to Tom.
Seth Lederman: The study will be conducted as a potential registrational study. The key question will be whether we accumulate enough events, which is mostly driven by Lyme disease cases in the placebo group in our observation period. Now let me turn the third part over about the quarterly gross to net back to Tom.
Speaker #3: The study will be conducted as a potential registrational study and the key question will be whether we accumulate enough events, which is mostly driven by Lyme disease cases in the placebo group.
Speaker #3: In our observation period. So now let me turn the third part over about the quarterly growth to net back to Tom. This quarterly growth to net and also about inventory.
Thomas Englese: Yep
Thomas Englese: Yep
Speaker #2: Yep. Great. Thanks again. Yeah, so as we mentioned, we don't disclose specifics about our growth to net. What I can say is that we've seen a good, as I mentioned earlier, we've seen the growth to net positively being impact by our mix in our channel.
Seth Lederman: Of Tonmya to Tom.
Seth Lederman: Of Tonmya to Tom.
Thomas Englese: Great. Thanks again. Yeah. As we mentioned, we don't disclose specifics about our gross to net. What I can say is that, as I mentioned earlier, we've seen the gross net positively being impacted by our mix in our channel. The prior approval submissions and approval rates have been strong as well. We obviously have new coverage that's coming online. I would anticipate a gross net in the range similar to what we've seen in Q1 and Q2. In terms of inventory, I'm assuming we're talking about the inventory at the wholesalers. We track that, and we have seen a consistent days on hand as demand has increased. There's been really no incremental inventory build at our wholesaler and distributor partners. I think that was probably where you were going with the inventory question. Thank you for that.
Thomas Englese: Great. Thanks again. Yeah. As we mentioned, we don't disclose specifics about our gross to net. What I can say is that, as I mentioned earlier, we've seen the gross net positively being impacted by our mix in our channel. The prior approval submissions and approval rates have been strong as well. We obviously have new coverage that's coming online. I would anticipate a gross net in the range similar to what we've seen in Q1 and Q2. In terms of inventory, I'm assuming we're talking about the inventory at the wholesalers. We track that, and we have seen a consistent days on hand as demand has increased. There's been really no incremental inventory build at our wholesaler and distributor partners. I think that was probably where you were going with the inventory question. Thank you for that.
Speaker #2: The prior approval submissions and approval rates have been strong as well. And we obviously have new coverage that's coming online. So I would anticipate a growth to net in the range similar to what we've seen in Q1 and Q2.
Speaker #2: In terms of inventory, I'm assuming we're talking about the inventory at the wholesalers. We track that, and we have seen a consistent days on hand as demand has increased.
Speaker #2: So there's been really no incremental inventory build at our wholesaler and distributor partners. So I think that was probably where you were going with the inventory question.
Speaker #2: So thank you for that.
Speaker #4: Thank you so much.
Stacy Ku: Thank you so much.
Stacy Ku: Thank you so much.
Seth Lederman: Stacy, are there follow-up questions, or?
Seth Lederman: Stacy, are there follow-up questions, or?
Speaker #3: Thanks, Stacey. Stacey, are there follow-up questions or?
Speaker #4: No, I think we're all set. Thank you so much.
Stacy Ku: No, I think we're all set. Thank you so much.
Stacy Ku: No, I think we're all set. Thank you so much.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Seth Lederman: Thank you.
Seth Lederman: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tiago False with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tiago Fauth with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tiago Fauth with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Tiago Fauth: Great. Thanks for the good question, and congrats on the progress. I have one for Tom and one for 4800. On 4800, just to hone in on the sample size into your comment related to infection rates on the placebo arm. If you look at the older studies, you see a slightly higher rate. We're seeing a surprisingly low rate of infections in VALOR. Can you just talk about that dynamic as we're thinking about both powering of the study and also the site selection and enrichment to ensure that you can accrue enough events? Also, I just wanted to understand a little bit better how to characterize the access and ease of access of the policies that are in place relative to step edits. How cumbersome is the paperwork? How is that kind of evolving over time? Thank you so much.
Tiago Fauth: Great. Thanks for the good question, and congrats on the progress. I have one for Tom and one for 4800. On 4800, just to hone in on the sample size into your comment related to infection rates on the placebo arm. If you look at the older studies, you see a slightly higher rate. We're seeing a surprisingly low rate of infections in VALOR. Can you just talk about that dynamic as we're thinking about both powering of the study and also the site selection and enrichment to ensure that you can accrue enough events? Also, I just wanted to understand a little bit better how to characterize the access and ease of access of the policies that are in place relative to step edits. How cumbersome is the paperwork? How is that kind of evolving over time? Thank you so much.
Speaker #5: Great, thanks. Let's take a question. And congrats on the progress. I have one for Tanmaya, one for 4800. On 4800, just to hone in on the sample size and to your comment related to infection rates on the placebo arm: if you look at the older studies, you see a slightly higher rate. We're seeing that surprisingly low rate of infections in Valor.
Speaker #5: So, can you just talk about that dynamic as we're thinking about both powering of the study, and also the site selection and enriching, to ensure that you can accrue enough events?
Speaker #5: And also I just wanted to understand a little bit better how to characterize the access and ease of access of the policies that are in place relative to step edits, how cumbersome is the paperwork, how is that kind of evolving over time?
Speaker #5: Thank you so much.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tiago. I'll take the first part, but 4800, and then I'll ask Tom to answer the question about step edits. So with the TNX 4800 Lyme preventative program, the study that most people use as a reference is the study under was behind the approval of the Lyme risk vaccine in 1998, which is subsequently been withdrawn.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Tiago. I'll take the first part about 4800, then I'll ask Tom to answer the question about step edits. With the TNX-4800 Lyme preventative program, the study that most people use as a reference is the study that was behind the approval of the LYMErix vaccine in 1998, which has subsequently been withdrawn. In that study, they had an attack rate of 0.8 in one group and 1.2%, another group that was the main efficacy group. Since then, Lyme has increased significantly in the United States, at least threefold increase in Lyme endemic areas. We think that the attack rate that's supported by the epidemiology supports that we could get enough events with 3,300 participants that we've announced we're targeting. How we're targeting them and the specifics of the clinical trial are, to some extent, proprietary.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Tiago. I'll take the first part about 4800, then I'll ask Tom to answer the question about step edits. With the TNX-4800 Lyme preventative program, the study that most people use as a reference is the study that was behind the approval of the LYMErix vaccine in 1998, which has subsequently been withdrawn. In that study, they had an attack rate of 0.8 in one group and 1.2%, another group that was the main efficacy group. Since then, Lyme has increased significantly in the United States, at least threefold increase in Lyme endemic areas. We think that the attack rate that's supported by the epidemiology supports that we could get enough events with 3,300 participants that we've announced we're targeting. How we're targeting them and the specifics of the clinical trial are, to some extent, proprietary.
Speaker #3: And in that study, they had a tack rate of 0.8 in one group and 1.2% in another group that was the main efficacy group.
Speaker #3: And since then, Lyme has increased significantly in the United States—at least threefold—in the Lyme-endemic areas. So we think that the attack rate that's supported by the epidemiology supports that we could get enough events with the 3,300 participants that we've announced we're targeting.
Speaker #3: How we're targeting them and the specifics of the clinical trial are to some extent proprietary, but we're certainly working with experts in the field and clinical experts in areas where Lyme is growing rapidly to select patients who are at risk for contracting getting deer tick bites and in areas where the deer ticks have a significant rate of Borrelia infection.
Seth Lederman: We're certainly working with experts in the field and clinical experts in areas where Lyme is growing rapidly to select patients who are at risk for getting deer tick bites and in areas where the deer ticks have a significant rate of Borrelia infection. Let me turn it over to Tom for the discussion about step edits on Tonmya.
Seth Lederman: We're certainly working with experts in the field and clinical experts in areas where Lyme is growing rapidly to select patients who are at risk for getting deer tick bites and in areas where the deer ticks have a significant rate of Borrelia infection. Let me turn it over to Tom for the discussion about step edits on Tonmya.
Speaker #3: So let me turn it over to Tom for the discussion about step edits on Tanmaya.
Thomas Englese: Yep. Thank you very much. Obviously, first let me note that our target patient population is around 3 million patients who were previously diagnosed and treated for fibromyalgia. It's important to understand that 80%, roughly 80% of these patients have been already or are on multiple therapies for fibromyalgia. In our discussions with the payers and our, since pre-launch even and post-launch, pre-launch in the pre-information exchange and post-launch in actual discussions about coverage, we've seen a tendency to require a step or two through one of multiple products, no mandatory steps through any specific product. Based on what we've already seen in the market and what we've already seen with our prior authorization submissions and approvals early in launch, we're comfortable that this is a very manageable approach for both the patients and HCPs.
Thomas Englese: Yep. Thank you very much. Obviously, first let me note that our target patient population is around 3 million patients who were previously diagnosed and treated for fibromyalgia. It's important to understand that 80%, roughly 80% of these patients have been already or are on multiple therapies for fibromyalgia. In our discussions with the payers and our, since pre-launch even and post-launch, pre-launch in the pre-information exchange and post-launch in actual discussions about coverage, we've seen a tendency to require a step or two through one of multiple products, no mandatory steps through any specific product. Based on what we've already seen in the market and what we've already seen with our prior authorization submissions and approvals early in launch, we're comfortable that this is a very manageable approach for both the patients and HCPs.
Speaker #2: Yep. Thank you very much. Yeah, so obviously, first, let me note that our targeted patient population is around 3 million patients who are previously diagnosed and treated for fibromyalgia.
Speaker #2: And it's important to understand that 80%, roughly 80% of these patients have been already or are on multiple therapies for fibromyalgia. So in our discussions with the payers and our since pre-launch even and post-launch, pre-launch and the pre-information exchange and post-launch and actual discussions about coverage, we've seen a tendency to require a step or two through one of multiple products.
Speaker #2: Mandatory steps through any specific product. Based on what we've already seen in the market and what we've already seen with our prior authorization submissions and approvals, early in launch, we're comfortable that this is a very manageable approach for both the patients and HCPs.
Speaker #5: All right. Fantastic. Thanks again for taking that question.
Tiago Fauth: Right. Fantastic. Thanks again for taking the question.
Tiago Fauth: Right. Fantastic. Thanks again for taking the question.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tiago.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Tiago.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Tiago.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from James Malloy with AGP. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from James Molloy with AGP. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from James Molloy with AGP. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Thank you very much for taking my questions. I know that looking at the Tanmaya launch, the growth to net came down quite a bit in the quarter.
James Molloy (AGP/Alliance Global Partn: Hey, guys. Thank you very much for taking my questions. I know that looking at the Tonmya launch, the gross-to-net came down quite a bit in the quarter. I know you suggested it's going to fluctuate. It seems like we see different numbers than you guys see when we look at our Symphony data. Is this lower level, do you anticipate this lower level being more typical, or do you think it's more likely to fluctuate back towards sort of the Q2 of launch where it's almost a 50% gross-to-net discount?
James Molloy: Hey, guys. Thank you very much for taking my questions. I know that looking at the Tonmya launch, the gross-to-net came down quite a bit in the quarter. I know you suggested it's going to fluctuate. It seems like we see different numbers than you guys see when we look at our Symphony data. Is this lower level, do you anticipate this lower level being more typical, or do you think it's more likely to fluctuate back towards sort of the Q2 of launch where it's almost a 50% gross-to-net discount?
Speaker #6: I know you suggested it's going to fluctuate. It seems like we see different numbers than you guys see when we look at our Symphony data.
Speaker #6: Is this lower level—you anticipate this lower level being more typical, or do you think it's more likely to fluctuate back toward the second quarter of launch, where it was almost a 50% growth to net discount?
Speaker #3: Thank you very much for the question, Jim. Let me turn that over to Tom.
Seth Lederman: Thank you very much for the question, Jim. Let me turn that over to Tom.
Seth Lederman: Thank you very much for the question, Jim. Let me turn that over to Tom.
Speaker #2: Yep. Thanks, Jim. So look, in Q2, obviously, we said we had favorable dynamics that attributed to the growth to net in Q2. It is going to fluctuate, as I mentioned, especially as the coverage comes online from the two commercial contracts that we have recently signed and the downstreams come online.
Thomas Englese: Yep. Thanks, Jim. Look, in Q2, obviously, we said we had favorable dynamics that attributed to the gross-to-net in Q2. It is going to fluctuate, as I mentioned, especially as the coverage comes online from the two commercial contracts that we have recently signed and the downstreams come online. Moving forward, I would expect continued fluctuations in the range of what we've seen thus far for Q1 and Q2. At some point, obviously once we get all the coverage pretty much locked down, we should see a more stabilization moving forward.
Thomas Englese: Yep. Thanks, Jim. Look, in Q2, obviously, we said we had favorable dynamics that attributed to the gross-to-net in Q2. It is going to fluctuate, as I mentioned, especially as the coverage comes online from the two commercial contracts that we have recently signed and the downstreams come online. Moving forward, I would expect continued fluctuations in the range of what we've seen thus far for Q1 and Q2. At some point, obviously once we get all the coverage pretty much locked down, we should see a more stabilization moving forward.
Speaker #2: Moving forward, I would expect continued fluctuations in the range of what we've seen thus far for Q1 and Q2. And then at some point, obviously, once we get all the coverage pretty much locked down, we should see a more stabilization moving forward.
Speaker #6: Okay. Great. And then stay with Tom on the launch. You had some anecdotal comments already. Let's on the launch is going well. Could you walk through sort of on the sales reps what percentage of the reps or what number of the reps are sort of covering their own costs currently?
James Molloy (AGP/Alliance Global Partn: Okay, great. Staying with Tom on the launch, you had some anecdotal comments already that some of the launch is going well. Could you walk through on the sales reps, what percentage of the reps or what number of the reps are covering their own cost currently, or when do you anticipate them getting to that point? Looking at the overall gross margin was quite good, 5% cost of goods in the quarter. Is that a number we should anticipate going forward now that you've got production up to a scale and running at a higher level?
James Molloy: Okay, great. Staying with Tom on the launch, you had some anecdotal comments already that some of the launch is going well. Could you walk through on the sales reps, what percentage of the reps or what number of the reps are covering their own cost currently, or when do you anticipate them getting to that point? Looking at the overall gross margin was quite good, 5% cost of goods in the quarter. Is that a number we should anticipate going forward now that you've got production up to a scale and running at a higher level?
Speaker #6: When do you sort of anticipate them getting to that point? And also looking at the overall gross margin, was quite good, 5% cost of goods.
Speaker #6: In the quarter, is that a number we should anticipate going forward now that, sort of, you've got production up to scale and running at a higher level?
Seth Lederman: Tom?
Seth Lederman: Tom?
Speaker #3: Tom?
Speaker #2: Yeah. So great. Yeah. So we're excited about the performance of the reps so far. Obviously, in launch, you're in a very focused ramp period and focused targeting and calling on specific doctors that you believe are seeing and treating most of those patients, which obviously we have great data on.
Thomas Englese: Yeah. Great. Yeah. We're excited about the performance of the reps so far. Obviously, in launch, you're in a very focused ramp period and focused targeting and calling on specific doctors that you believe are seeing and treating most of those patients, which obviously we have great data on. Over time, as we add these 50 incremental reps who will be boots on the ground September, they're already in training, we're going to be expanding the geographies, but also the depth. I would anticipate that over the course of 2027, we'll see a good portion of those reps, all the reps, covering the cost of the reps and continuing to drive new patients, scripts, refills, et cetera. We're excited about it. We're looking forward to getting to even more doctors with Tonmya and patients.
Thomas Englese: Yeah. Great. Yeah. We're excited about the performance of the reps so far. Obviously, in launch, you're in a very focused ramp period and focused targeting and calling on specific doctors that you believe are seeing and treating most of those patients, which obviously we have great data on. Over time, as we add these 50 incremental reps who will be boots on the ground September, they're already in training, we're going to be expanding the geographies, but also the depth. I would anticipate that over the course of 2027, we'll see a good portion of those reps, all the reps, covering the cost of the reps and continuing to drive new patients, scripts, refills, et cetera. We're excited about it. We're looking forward to getting to even more doctors with Tonmya and patients.
Speaker #2: So over time, as we add these 50 incremental reps who will be boots on the ground September, they're already in training, we're going to be expanding the geographies, but also the depth.
Speaker #2: I would anticipate that over the course of 2027, we'll see a good portion of those reps all the reps covering the cost of the reps.
Speaker #2: And continuing to drive new patients, scripts, refills, etc. So we're excited about it. We're looking forward to getting to even more doctors with Tanmaya.
Speaker #2: And patients. And then Seth, would you like to go to Bradley on the gross margin question?
Thomas Englese: Seth, would you like to go to Bradley on the gross margin question?
Thomas Englese: Seth, would you like to go to Bradley on the gross margin question?
Speaker #3: Bradley?
Seth Lederman: Bradley?
Seth Lederman: Bradley?
Speaker #4: I think great. Thanks for the question. So obviously, as we mentioned, we do have a certain product mix that's shifting over time. So obviously, we don't guide to exactly what our numbers would be, but I would expect again, a little fluctuation as we try to solidify various levels and so I think that's where we would be for at least the next quarter or two.
Bradley Saenger: Okay, great. Thanks for the question. Obviously, as we mentioned, we do have certainly a product mix that's shifting over time. Obviously we don't guide to exactly what our numbers would be. I would expect, again, a lot of fluctuations as we try to solidify various levels. I think that's where we'll be for at least the next quarter or two, and hopefully once things have stabilized, we will be able to have a more regular gross to net as well as margins as well.
Bradley Saenger: Okay, great. Thanks for the question. Obviously, as we mentioned, we do have certainly a product mix that's shifting over time. Obviously we don't guide to exactly what our numbers would be. I would expect, again, a lot of fluctuations as we try to solidify various levels. I think that's where we'll be for at least the next quarter or two, and hopefully once things have stabilized, we will be able to have a more regular gross to net as well as margins as well.
Speaker #4: And hopefully, once things have stabilized, we will be able to have more regular growth to net, as well as margins, as well.
Speaker #6: Okay. Final question then, if I could, please. On 4,800, the study is starting up. Could you sort of compare or contrast any learnings you may have got from Pfizer's Valor study which just missed significance?
James Molloy (AGP/Alliance Global Partn: Okay. Final question then, if I could please on 4800, the study starting up. Could you sort of compare or contrast any learnings you may have got from Pfizer's VALOR study, which just missed significance? I think they didn't have quite enough people get infected and how you can best try to work around that in the 4800 study.
James Molloy: Okay. Final question then, if I could please on 4800, the study starting up. Could you sort of compare or contrast any learnings you may have got from Pfizer's VALOR study, which just missed significance? I think they didn't have quite enough people get infected and how you can best try to work around that in the 4800 study.
Speaker #6: I think they didn't have quite enough people getting infected, and how to sort of how you can best try to work around that in the 4,800 study.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jim. I'll take that. The Pfizer study was very different from the study that we're planning. They had a very significant proportion of their patients enrolled from Europe.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Jim. I'll take that. The Pfizer study was very different from the study that we're planning. They had a very significant proportion of their patients enrolled from Europe, we're planning a US-only study. Their study was evaluating a vaccine product that took about a year to develop immunity, then they were looking at protection after the immunity. Whereas our product, we believe it would provide protection within two days of the first dose. A much simpler product to get and for people to understand, and the engagement with volunteers is shorter. I think that several characteristics of our study are different. The US focus, the product that we're evaluating, and also, I think that we are speaking to experts and clinicians who see a lot of Lyme in the United States.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Jim. I'll take that. The Pfizer study was very different from the study that we're planning. They had a very significant proportion of their patients enrolled from Europe, we're planning a US-only study. Their study was evaluating a vaccine product that took about a year to develop immunity, then they were looking at protection after the immunity. Whereas our product, we believe it would provide protection within two days of the first dose. A much simpler product to get and for people to understand, and the engagement with volunteers is shorter. I think that several characteristics of our study are different. The US focus, the product that we're evaluating, and also, I think that we are speaking to experts and clinicians who see a lot of Lyme in the United States.
Speaker #3: And we're planning a US-only study. Their study would evaluating a vaccine product that took about a year to develop immunity and then they were looking at immunity after the at protection after the immunity whereas our product we believe it would provide protection within two days of the first dose.
Speaker #3: So a much simpler product to get and for people to understand and the engagement with volunteers is shorter. So I think that several characteristics of our study are different.
Speaker #3: The U.S. focus, the product that we're evaluating, and also I think that we are speaking to experts and clinicians who see a lot of Lyme in the United States.
Speaker #3: And I think that we have confidence that we can do a better job of identifying people at higher risk of Lyme than we've seen in that study.
Seth Lederman: I think that we have confidence that we can do a better job of identifying people at higher risk of Lyme than was seen in that study. Although, our ability to understand all the details of that study are limited.
Seth Lederman: I think that we have confidence that we can do a better job of identifying people at higher risk of Lyme than was seen in that study. Although, our ability to understand all the details of that study are limited.
Speaker #3: Although our ability to understand all the details of that study are limited.
Speaker #6: Thank you very much for taking the questions.
James Molloy (AGP/Alliance Global Partn: Thank you very much for taking the questions.
James Molloy: Thank you very much for taking the questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jim.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Jim.
Seth Lederman: Thank you, Jim.
Speaker #5: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call over to Seth Letterman for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call over to Seth Lederman for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call over to Seth Lederman for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Well, we're very grateful to everyone who participated, and particularly to those who asked questions. We are excited about the success with Tanmaya so far, and our clinical programs.
Seth Lederman: Well, we're very grateful to everyone who participated, and particularly those who asked questions. We are excited about the success with Tonmya so far and our clinical programs, and we look forward to keeping our investors and stakeholders engaged and updated as we make progress in 2026 and beyond. With that, I want to thank everyone on the call, particularly the management team, and thank you very much. This is the end of the call.
Seth Lederman: Well, we're very grateful to everyone who participated, and particularly those who asked questions. We are excited about the success with Tonmya so far and our clinical programs, and we look forward to keeping our investors and stakeholders engaged and updated as we make progress in 2026 and beyond. With that, I want to thank everyone on the call, particularly the management team, and thank you very much. This is the end of the call.
Speaker #3: And we look forward to keeping the our investors and stakeholders engaged and updated as we make progress in 2026 and beyond. So with that, I want to thank everyone on the call, particularly the management team, and thank you very much.
Speaker #3: So, this is the end of the call.
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