Q2 2026 Scorpio Tankers Inc Earnings Call

July 30, 2026

Speaker #1: Hello, and welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Inc Q2, 2026 conference call. I would now like to turn the call over to James Doyle, Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations.

Operator: Hello, welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Inc. Q2 2026 Conference Call. I would now like to turn the call over to James Doyle, Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Q2 2026 earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Emanuele Lauro, Chief Executive Officer; Robert Bugbee, President; Cameron Mackey, Chief Operating Officer; Chris Avella, Chief Financial Officer; and Lars Denker Nielsen, Chief Commercial Officer. Earlier today, we issued our Q2 earnings press release, which is available on our website, scorpiotankers.com.

James Doyle: Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. On the call with me today are Emanuele Lauro, Chief Executive Officer, Robert Bugbee, President, Cameron Mackey, Chief Operating Officer, Chris Avella, Chief Financial Officer, and Lars Dencker Nielsen, Chief Commercial Officer. Earlier today, we issued our Q2 earnings press release, which is available on our website, scorpiotankers.com. The information discussed on this call is based on information as of today, 30 July 2026, and may contain forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty. Actual results may differ from those set forth in such statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statement disclosure in the earnings press release, as well as Scorpio Tankers SEC filings, which are available at scorpiotankers.com and sec.gov.

Speaker #2: The information discussed on this call is based on information as of today, July 30, 2026, and may contain forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty.

Speaker #2: Actual results may differ from those that were in such statements. For discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statement disclosure in the earnings press release.

Speaker #2: As well as Scorpio Tankers’ SEC filings, which are available at scorpiotankers.com and sec.gov. Call participants are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live on the internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes.

James Doyle: Call participants are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live on the internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. An archive of the webcast will be made available on the investor relations page of our website for approximately 14 days. We will be giving a short presentation today. The presentation is available at scorpiotankers.com on the investor relations page under reports and presentations. The slides will also be available on the webcast. After the presentation, we will go to Q&A. For those asking questions, please limit the number of questions to two. If you have an additional question, please rejoin the queue. Now I'd like to introduce our Chief Executive Officer, Emanuele Lauro.

Speaker #2: An archive of the webcast will be made available on the Investor Relations page of our website for approximately 14 days. We will be giving a short presentation today.

Speaker #2: The presentation is available at scorpiotankers.com on the investor relations page under Reports and Presentations. The slides will also be available on the webcast. After the presentation, we will go to Q&A.

Speaker #2: For those asking questions, please limit the number of questions to two. If you have an additional question, please rejoin the queue. Now I'd like to introduce our Chief Executive Officer, Emanuele Lauro.

Speaker #3: Thank you, James. And good morning or good afternoon to all. Last quarter, I spoke about our focus on the things that we can control—like strengthening our balance sheet, lowering our cost of capital, reducing our cash break-evens, optimizing our fleet, securing attractive time charter contracts, and returning capital to shareholders.

Emanuele Lauro: Thank you, James, and good morning or good afternoon to all. Last quarter, I spoke about our focus on the things that we can control, like strengthening our balance sheet, lowering our cost of capital, reducing our cash break-evens, optimizing our fleet, securing attractive time charter contracts, and returning capital to shareholders. That approach has not changed, and during the Q2, we continued to execute against each of these priorities. Financially, the results speak for themselves. The Q2 was the strongest in Scorpio Tankers' history, generating adjusted EBITDA in excess of $300 million and adjusted net income of $243.7 million. We continue to strengthen our financial position. Today, our cash position stands at more than $1.9 billion. During the quarter, we completed one of the most attractive financing transactions in the company's history.

Speaker #3: That approach has not changed, and during the Q2 we continue to execute against each of these priorities. Financially, the results speak for themselves. The Q2 was the strongest in Scorpio Tankers' history, generating adjusted EBITDA in excess of $300 million.

Speaker #3: An adjusted net income of $243.7 million. We continue to strengthen our financial position. Today, our cash position stands at more than $1.9 billion. During the quarter, we completed one of the most attractive financing transactions in the company’s history.

Speaker #3: We've issued $605 million of convertible bonds at a yield to maturity of approximately 1%. We also repaid at the same time $589 million of debt which was carrying an interest rate between 5 and 7.5%.

Emanuele Lauro: We've issued $605 million of convertible bonds at a yield to maturity of approximately 1%. We also repaid, at the same time, $589 million of debt, which was carrying an interest rate between 5% and 7.5%. Replacing our highest cost of capital debt with our lowest cost of capital further improved our balance sheet and reduced our cost of funding while preserving significant financial flexibility. As a result, our daily cash break-evens remains approximately $11,000 per day, which is one of the lowest in the industry. We also continued, during the Q2, to optimize our fleet. Since the beginning of the year, we have sold 19 vessels, most of them 11 or 12 years old, at prices above what we originally paid for them more than a decade ago.

Speaker #3: So, replacing our highest cost of capital debt with our lowest cost capital further improved our balance sheet and reduced our cost of funding, while preserving significant financial flexibility.

Speaker #3: As a result, our daily cash break-evens remain approximately $11,000 per day, which is one of the lowest in the industry. We also continued during Q2 to optimize our fleet.

Speaker #3: Since the beginning of the year, we have sold 19 vessels, most of them 11 or 12 years old. At prices above what we originally paid for them, more than a decade ago.

Speaker #3: As a point of reference, the last four sales which were all LR2s were completed at prices above the cost of the LR2 new buildings we currently have on order.

Emanuele Lauro: As a point of reference, the last four sales, which were all LR2s, were completed at prices above the cost of the LR2 newbuildings we currently have on order. Tomorrow, we will welcome the STI Moxie, our first MR newbuilding, who's delivering into the fleet tomorrow, as I said. This brings our order book down to 13 vessels. This reflects our philosophy on fleet renewal, realizing attractive values from older assets while reinvesting in more fuel-efficient vessels that will strengthen the fleet for many years to come. Return to shareholders also remains a priority. During the quarter, we purchased approximately two million shares for $155 million, and today our board declared a quarterly dividend of $0.45 per share. These two actions combined represent more than $175 million returned to shareholders during Q2.

Speaker #3: Tomorrow, we will welcome the STI Moxie, our first MR newbuilding, whose delivery into the fleet is tomorrow. As I said, this brings our order book down to 13 vessels.

Speaker #3: This reflects our philosophy on fleet renewal, realizing attractive values from older assets while reinvesting in more fuel-efficient vessels that will strengthen the fleet for many years to come.

Speaker #3: Returning capital to shareholders also remains a priority. During the quarter, we purchased approximately 2 million shares for $155 million, and today, our board declared the quarterly dividend of $0.45 per share. These actions combined represent more than $175 million returned to shareholders during Q2.

Speaker #3: On the commercial side, we entered into chapter agreements for 3 MR vessels for a minimum period of 3 years. These vessels are expected to enter the TC contracts in December of this year, allowing us to benefit on the current strong spot environment that we are experiencing.

Emanuele Lauro: On the commercial side, we entered into charter agreements for three MR vessels for a minimum period of three years. These vessels are expected to enter the TC contracts in December of this year, allowing us to benefit on the current strong spot environment that we are experiencing. Customers do not commit to multi-year charters without confidence in the markets and view these agreements as another encouraging indication of the long-term fundamentals of our business. While freight rates have moderated from the exceptional levels we've experienced early in the year, they remain at levels that continue to generate meaningful free cash flow for us. At the same time, geopolitical developments, particularly in the Middle East, continue to create uncertainty. We do not pretend to know how or when events will evolve. Shipping has always been and will remain a cyclical business.

Speaker #3: Customers do not commit to multi-year charters without confidence in the market, and we view these agreements as another encouraging indication of the long-term fundamentals of our business.

Speaker #3: While freight rates have moderated from the exceptional levels we've experienced early in the year, they remain at levels that continue to generate meaningful free cash flow for us.

Speaker #3: At the same time, geopolitical developments, particularly in the Middle East, continue to create uncertainty. We do not pretend to know how or when demands will evolve.

Speaker #3: Shipping has always been and will remain a cyclical business. Markets rise and fall, and geopolitical events introduce uncertainty that no one can really predict with precision.

Emanuele Lauro: Markets rise and fall, geopolitical events introduce uncertainty that no one can really predict with precision. Our job is not to predict the cycle. Our job is to be prepared for it, this is what we're doing. That is why we continue to strengthen our balance sheet, lower our cost of capital, reduce our cash break-evens, optimize our fleet, renew our asset base, and maintain sustainable liquidity. We believe these decisions position Scorpio Tankers to generate meaningful cash flow when markets are strong, while giving us the resilience and financial flexibility to capitalize opportunities when conditions inevitably change. The philosophy has guided us for many years, and it will continue to guide us in the years ahead. My opening remarks are over, and I would like to turn the call back to Jake, please. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Our job is not to predict the cycle. Our job is to be prepared for it, and this is what we're doing. That is why we continue to strengthen our balance sheet, lower our cost of capital, reduce our cash break-evens, optimize our fleet, renew our asset base, and maintain sustainable liquidity.

Speaker #3: We believe these decisions position Scorpio Tankers to generate meaningful cash flow when markets are strong, while giving us the resilience and financial flexibility to capitalize opportunities when conditions inevitably change.

Speaker #3: The philosophy has guided us for many years, and it will continue to guide us in the years ahead. My opening remarks are over, and I would like to turn the call back to James, please.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Emanuele. 5, 7, please. In the Q2, rates reached record highs. Records by definition aren't meant to last. We've seen geopolitical events drive rates to high levels before.

James Doyle: Thanks, Emanuele. Slide seven, please. In Q2, rates reached record highs. Records, by definition, aren't meant to last. We've seen geopolitical events drive rates to high levels before. What's more important is not the peak, it's the floor. Today, product tanker rates remain above $30,000 per day, despite lower seaborne volumes in what is typically the seasonally slower part of the year. At these levels, the company generates significant free cash flow. As Emanuele said, we don't pretend to know how or when the conflict in the Middle East will be resolved. What we do know is that global inventories, commercial, strategic, and floating, have been drawn down meaningfully. We also know the refinery dislocation is structural. Refining capacity has shifted farther from the consumer, that isn't something that reverses quickly. Looking ahead, we believe the product tanker market is well-positioned.

Speaker #2: What's more important is not the peak, it's the floor. Today, product tanker rates remain above $30,000 per day despite lower seaborne volumes and when it's typically the seasonally slower part of the year.

Speaker #2: At these levels, the company generates significant free cash flow. As Emanuele said, we don't pretend to know how or when the conflict in the Middle East will be resolved.

Speaker #2: But what we do know is that global inventories, commercial, strategic, and floating have been drawn down meaningfully. We also know the refinery dislocation is structural.

Speaker #2: Refining capacity has shifted farther from the consumer, and that isn't something that reverses quickly. Looking ahead, we believe the product tanker market is well positioned.

Speaker #2: A global inventory restocking, combined with a recovery in underlying demand, should support higher seaborne exports ton miles in rates. Slide 8, please. After the MOU was signed in mid-June, tanker flows to the Strait of Hormuz rose to 12.6 million barrels per day, and closer to 17 million including Saudi Arabia's Ianbu exports.

James Doyle: A global inventory restocking, combined with a recovery in underlying demand, should support higher seaborne exports, ton miles, and rates. Slide eight, please. After the MoU was signed in mid-June, tanker flows through the Strait of Hormuz rose to 12.6 million barrels per day and closer to 17 million, including Saudi Arabia's Yanbu exports. The region is fragile. Last week, the Houthis attacked two commercial vessels in the Red Sea. We've seen this before. In 2024, rising risk in the Bab el-Mandeb pushed owners to reroute around the Cape of Good Hope, in some cases more than doubling sailing distances. If that pattern repeats, it would mean incremental ton mile demand from rerouting alone, adding further support to freight rates. Slide nine, please. Ton mile demand has been the defining factor behind today's freight market.

Speaker #2: But the region is fragile, last week the Houthis attacked two commercial vessels in the Red Sea. We've seen this before. In 2024, rising risk in the Bab-el-Mandeb pushed owners to reroute around the Cape of Good Hope, in some cases more than doubling sailing distances.

Speaker #2: That pattern repeats, it would mean incremental ton mile demand from rerouting alone, adding further support to freight rates. Slide 9, please. Ton mile demand has been the defining factor behind today's freight market.

Speaker #2: In June, seaborne refined product exports declined by 2.3 million barrels per day, or 11% year over year. However, longer voyage distances have largely offset that decline.

James Doyle: In June, seaborne refined product exports declined by 2.3 million barrels per day, or 11% year-over-year. However, longer voyage distances have largely offset that decline, tightening effective supply and supporting a strong freight market despite lower volumes. Refinery dislocation has been a key component in driving ton mile demand, one we expect to continue. Slide 10, please. Refining margins have reached record levels. Geopolitical disruptions have exacerbated a dislocated refinery system. Since 2019, refined product demand has grown almost 4.5 million barrels per day, compared to 1.8 million barrels per day of net capacity additions. Compounding that, much of the new capacity that has come online sits in the Middle East and China, farther from the end consumer. Slide 11, please. As flows normalize, demand for refined products could increase by more than 3 million barrels per day through year-end.

Speaker #2: Tightening effective supply and supporting a strong freight market, despite lower volumes. Refinery dislocation has been a key component in driving ton-mile demand, and we expect this to continue.

Speaker #2: Slide 10, please. Refining margins have reached record levels. Geopolitical disruptions have exacerbated a dislocated refinery system. Since 2019, refined product demand has grown almost 4.5 million barrels per day, compared to 1.8 million barrels per day of net capacity additions.

Speaker #2: Compounding that, much of the new capacity that has come online sits in the Middle East and China, farther from the end consumer. Slide 11, please.

Speaker #2: As flows normalize, demand for refined products could increase by more than 3 million barrels per day through year-end. Global visible inventories are down over 400 million barrels since the start of the conflict.

James Doyle: Global visible inventories are down over 400 million barrels since the start of the conflict, so much of that demand will need to be met by increasing refinery runs rather than inventory draws. Given the refinery dislocation, that production increasingly has to be shipped, creating a constructive backdrop for product tankers. Slide 12, please. The Aframax LR2 crude tanker market is benefiting from two forces at once: disruption in the Middle East and rising crude production from the United States, Canada, and Latin America. Together, they have pushed seaborne volumes up by nearly 1 million barrels per day and spot rates above $100,000 per day. Given the spread, we've moved a few of our LR2s into the crude market to capture the higher earnings. Slide 13. This is particularly important when looking at the order book.

Speaker #2: But much of that demand will need to be met by increasing refinery runs rather than inventory draws, and given the refinery dislocation, that production increasingly has to be shipped, creating a constructive backdrop for product tankers.

Speaker #2: Slide 12, please. The Aframax/LR2 crude tanker market is benefiting from two forces at once: disruption in the Middle East and rising crude production from the United States, Canada, and Latin America.

Speaker #2: Together, they have pushed seaborne volumes up by nearly 1 million barrels per day, and spot rates above $100,000 per day. Given the spread, we've moved a few of our LR2s into the crude market to capture the higher earnings.

Speaker #2: Slide 13. This is particularly important when looking at the order book. While the order book has 20% of the fleet, more than half the order book is LR2s.

James Doyle: While the order book is 20% of the fleet, more than half the order book is LR2s. Today, 66% of the LR2 fleet is trading crude oil, and we expect this to continue. As a result, the effective product tanker order book is smaller than it appears, reinforcing the view that fleet growth will be more moderate than expected. Slide 14, please. As you can see on the left, 21% of the product tanker fleet is already over 20 years old. By 2028, it will be 31%. On the right, roughly 25% of the Aframax LR2 fleet and 9% of the MR Handy fleet are sanctioned with average ages of 19 to 21 years old. In a normal market, much of this older tonnage would have already exited the fleet. The combination of an aging fleet and a meaningful share of sanctioned tonnage points to further tightening of effective supply.

Speaker #2: Today, 66% of the LR2 fleet is trading crude oil, and we expect this to continue. As a result, the effective product tanker order book is smaller than it appears, reinforcing the view that fleet growth will be more moderate than expected.

Speaker #2: Slide 14, please. As you can see on the left, 21% of the product tanker fleet is already over 20 years old. By 2028, it will be 31%.

Speaker #2: On the right, roughly 25% of the Afrimax LR2 fleet and 9% of the MR Handy fleet are sanctioned, with average ages of 19 to 21 years old.

Speaker #2: In a normal market, much of this older tonnage would have already exited the fleet. The combination of an aging fleet and a meaningful share of sanctioned tonnage points to further tightening of effective supply.

Speaker #2: Slide 15, please. When you adjust for aging vessels, sanctioned capacity, and LR2 crossover, effective supply growth is lower than the headline order book implies.

James Doyle: Slide 15, please. When you adjust for aging vessels, sanctioned capacity, and LR2 crossover, effective supply growth is lower than the headline order book implies. We expect fleet growth to average roughly 3% to 4% over the next three years and potentially lower. As refinery utilization and seaborne flows increase to support demand and global restocking, the market should tighten further. Near-term, that means higher refinery runs and seaborne exports. Longer-term, refining capacity stays constrained while the fleet ages. We expect ton mile demand to outpace fleet growth. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Chris.

Speaker #2: We expect fleet growth to average roughly 3 to 4% over the next 3 years, and potentially lower. As refinery utilization and seaborne flows increase to support demand and global restocking, the market should tighten further.

Speaker #2: Near-term, that means higher refinery runs and seaborne exports, longer-term refining capacity stays constrained while the fleet ages. We expect ton mile demand to outpace fleet growth, and with that, I'd like to turn it over to Chris.

Chris Avella: James, good morning. Good afternoon, everyone. Slide 17, please. This quarter, we generated $300.5 million in adjusted EBITDA and $388 million in net income on an IFRS basis. This includes a $154 million gain on the sale of 10 vessels during the quarter. Additionally, we declared a $0.45 per share dividend and repurchased $155 million of our common stock, thus returning an aggregate of over $175 million to shareholders. The chart on the right shows the evolution of our net debt position since December 2021. Our capital allocation policy over this period has been headlined by debt reduction. As you can see, this approach has resulted in a reduction of our net debt position by $4.2 billion from a net debt position of $2.9 billion at the end of 2021 to a net cash position of $1.3 billion as of today.

Speaker #3: James, good morning. Good afternoon, everyone. Slide 17, please. This quarter, we generated $300.5 million in adjusted EBITDA and $388 million in net income on an IFRS basis.

Speaker #3: This includes 154 million dollar gain on the sale of 10 vessels during the quarter. Additionally, we declared a 45 cent per share dividend and repurchased 155 million dollars of our common stock.

Speaker #3: Thus, returning in aggregate of over 175 million dollars to shareholders. The chart on the right shows the evolution of our net debt position since December of 2021.

Speaker #3: Our capital allocation policy over this period has been headlined by debt reduction. As you can see, this approach has resulted in the reduction of our net debt position by $4.2 billion—from a net debt position of $2.9 billion at the end of 2021 to a net cash position of $1.3 billion as of today.

Speaker #3: To put this balance sheet transformation into context, our net cash position is worth approximately $26 per share as of today. This balance sheet strength provides the company with considerable optionality, particularly in a market environment defined by elevated volatility and geopolitical uncertainty.

Chris Avella: To put this balance sheet transformation into context, our net cash position is worth approximately $26 per share as of today. This balance sheet strength provides the company with considerable optionality, particularly in a market environment defined by elevated volatility and geopolitical uncertainty. Slide 18, please. The chart on the left shows our outstanding debt by type since December 2021. Over the course of four years, we transformed our balance sheet by transitioning out of expensive lease financing into more flexible, lower-cost secured debt. Our efforts didn't end there. During the Q2 of this year and into July, we executed on a series of transactions that further transformed and strengthened our balance sheet. In April, we closed on an offering of $375 million in aggregate principal amount of five-year senior unsecured convertible notes bearing a 1.75% coupon rate and a conversion price of approximately $100 per share.

Speaker #3: Slide 18, please. The chart on the left shows our outstanding debt by type since December of 2021. Over the course of 4 years, we transformed our balance sheet by transitioning out of expensive lease financing into more flexible, lower-cost secure debt.

Speaker #3: However, our efforts didn't end there, as during the second quarter of this year and into July, we executed a series of transactions that further transformed and strengthened our balance sheet.

Speaker #3: In April, we closed on an offering of $375 million in aggregate principal amount of 5-year senior unsecured convertible notes, bearing a 1.75% coupon rate and a conversion price of approximately $100 per share.

Speaker #3: Upon conversion, we have the option to settle the convertible notes in cash, shares of our common stock, or a combination thereof. In May, we executed a follow-on offering of the same convertible notes, at a price of over $110 to par for gross proceeds of over $253 million.

Chris Avella: Upon conversion, we have the option to settle the convertible notes in cash, shares of our common stock, or a combination thereof. In May, we executed a follow-on offering of these same convertible notes at a price of over 110 to par for gross proceeds of over $253 million. When taking this premium into account, the yield to maturity on the combined issuances is below 1%. We also closed on the sales of 15 vessels, all at cyclically high prices. We earned the highest average daily TCE rate in the company's history. We announced two new secured credit facilities with seven-year tenors and bearing margins of 120 basis points. We repaid $389 million of legacy secured debt, all of which was due to mature in 2028. We redeemed our $200 million, 7.5% coupon rate senior unsecured notes.

Speaker #3: When taking this premium into account, the yield to maturity on the combined issuances is below 1%. We also closed on the sales of 15 vessels, all at cyclically high prices.

Speaker #3: We earned the highest average daily TCE rate in the company's history. We announced two new secured credit facilities with 7-year tenors and bearing margins of 120 basis points.

Speaker #3: We repaid $389 million of legacy secured debt, all of which was due to mature in 2028. We redeemed our $200 million 7.5% coupon rate senior unsecured notes.

Speaker #3: So, as of today, we have $655 million of debt, $605 million of which consists of convertible debt. The chart on the right shows the trend in the weighted average margins on our secured debt.

Chris Avella: As of today, we have $655 million of debt, $605 million of which consists of convertible debt. The chart on the right shows the trend in the weighted average margins on our secured debt. As I mentioned, in the Q2 of this year, we continued to focus on lowering our cost of debt by repaying over $389 million of debt across five credit facilities, all of which were scheduled to mature in 2028 and carried margins of between 170 and 197.5 basis points. Our efforts to lower our cost of capital didn't end there, as can be seen with our recently executed $50 million credit facility with Bank of America, and recently announced $90 million credit facility commitment from Standard Chartered and DekaBank. Each of these credit facilities carry margins of just 120 basis points and have seven-year tenors. Slide 19, please.

Speaker #3: As I mentioned in the second quarter of this year, we continued to focus on lowering our cost of debt by repaying over $389 million of debt across 5 credit facilities.

Speaker #3: All of which were scheduled to mature in 2028 and carried margins of between 170 and 197.5 basis points. Our efforts to lower our cost of capital didn't end there, as can be seen with our recently executed $50 million credit facility with Bank of America, and our recently announced $90 million credit facility commitment from Standard Chartered and DekaBank.

Speaker #3: Each of these credit facilities carry margins of just 120 basis points and have 7-year tenors. Slide 19, please. The chart on the left shows our liquidity profile.

Chris Avella: The chart on the left shows our liquidity profile. We had $2.2 billion in cash as of 28 July, and an additional $483 million in availability under revolving credit facilities, for a total of $2.4 billion in available liquidity. We've entered into agreements or letters of intent to purchase 14 new building vessels and to contribute equity for the minority interest in a joint venture of eight VLCCs. The chart on the right is a waterfall reflecting the commitments under these agreements or letters of intent. Our remaining new building and joint venture commitments total just over $978 million as of today, excluding any potential financing. Our disciplined allocation of capital over the past three years has afforded us the financial flexibility to enter into these agreements. As shown in the payment waterfall on the top right, these payment obligations are spread out over the next four years.

Speaker #3: We had 2.2 billion dollars in cash as of July 28th, and an additional $483 million in availability under revolving credit facilities for a total of 2.4 billion dollars in available liquidity.

Speaker #3: We have entered into agreements or letters of intent to purchase 14 new building vessels and to contribute equity for the minority interest in a joint venture of 8 VLCCs.

Speaker #3: The chart on the right is a waterfall reflecting the commitments under these agreements or letters of intent. Our remaining new building and joint venture commitments total just over $978 million as of today, excluding any potential financing.

Speaker #3: Our disciplined allocation of capital over the past three years has afforded us the financial flexibility to enter into these agreements. As shown in the payment waterfall on the top right, these payment obligations are spread out over the next four years.

Speaker #3: But hypothetically speaking, we could pay for all of these vessels today, in cash, without having to raise any additional capital. Slide 20, please. Our cash break-even rate which includes vessel operating costs, cash G&A, cash interest payments and commitment fees, and any scheduled loan amortization is below $11,000 per day and is at the lowest level in the company's history.

Chris Avella: Hypothetically speaking, we could pay for all of these vessels today in cash without having to raise any additional capital. Slide 20, please. Our cash breakeven rate, which includes vessel operating costs, cash G&A, cash interest payments and commitment fees, and any scheduled loan amortization, is below $11,000 per day and is at the lowest level in the company's history. This rate continued to decline given the cash interest savings resulting from our Q2 repayment of $389 million in secured debt, along with the July redemption of our senior unsecured notes of $200 million. To illustrate our cash generation potential at these cash breakeven levels, at $20,000 per day, the company can generate up to $246 million in cash flow per year. At $30,000 per day, the company can generate up to $520 million in cash flow per year. This concludes our presentation for today.

Speaker #3: This rate continued to decline, given the cash interest savings resulting from our Q2 repayment of $389 million in secured debt, along with the July redemption of our senior unsecured notes of $200 million.

Speaker #3: To illustrate our cash generation potential at these cash break-even levels at $20,000 per day, the company can generate up to $246 million in cash flow per year.

Speaker #3: And at $30,000 per day, the company can generate up to $520 million in cash flow per year. This concludes our presentation for today. On behalf of the management team, we'd like to thank you for your time and attention, and now we'd like to turn the call over to Q&A.

Chris Avella: On behalf of the management team, we'd like to thank you for your time and attention. Now we'd like to turn the call over to Q&A.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We will now be opening the Q&A session. If you'd like to ask questions, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.

Operator: Thank you. We will now be opening Q&A session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one again. Thank you. Your first question comes from Omar Nokta with Clarksons Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, please press star 1 again. Thank you. Your first question comes from Omar Nokta with Clarkson Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Hey guys, good morning, good afternoon. Thanks for the presentation. I just wanted to ask maybe a couple of perhaps maybe market-weighted questions, but also with pertaining to Scorpio and wanted to ask on the LR2 specifically and how that's been developing recently.

David Brown: Thank you. Hey, guys. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thanks for the presentation. I just wanted to ask maybe a couple of perhaps market-weighted questions, but also pertaining to Scorpio. I wanted to ask on LR2 specifically and how that's been developing recently. In the past, it seemed that there was somewhat of a separation, you would say, for product players that were looking at their LR2s, keeping them clean, and then maybe crude players who owned LR2s traded them dirty. Has that changed? Are clean owners like yourselves starting to trade the LR2s more actively in the dirty market? James, you mentioned in your presentation that you've switched a few ships into the crude trade and also how two-thirds of the fleet today is also running dirty.

Omar Nokta: Thank you. Hey, guys. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thanks for the presentation. I just wanted to ask maybe a couple of perhaps market-weighted questions, but also pertaining to Scorpio. I wanted to ask on LR2 specifically and how that's been developing recently. In the past, it seemed that there was somewhat of a separation, you would say, for product players that were looking at their LR2s, keeping them clean, and then maybe crude players who owned LR2s traded them dirty. Has that changed? Are clean owners like yourselves starting to trade the LR2s more actively in the dirty market? James, you mentioned in your presentation that you've switched a few ships into the crude trade and also how two-thirds of the fleet today is also running dirty.

Speaker #2: You know, in the past, it seemed that there was somewhat of a separation, you would say, for product players that were looking at their LR2s, keeping them clean, and then maybe crude players who owned LR2s traded them dirty.

Speaker #2: Has that changed? Are clean owners, like yourselves, starting to trade the LR2s more actively in the dirty market? James, you mentioned in your presentation that you've switched a few ships into the crude trade, and also how two-thirds of the fleet today is also running dirty.

Speaker #2: But I guess just kind of big picture, as we think about how LR2s are trading today, are they becoming a bit more fungible? If that's the right term, in terms of moving in and out of the crude trade, and I guess I'm asking that because when I look at your performance for the third quarter so far, that 65,000 on the LR2s, it seems that that's perhaps tracking closer to the dirty aftermax average versus, say, the clean LR2s.

David Brown: I guess just kind of big picture as we think about how LR2s are trading today, are they becoming a bit more fungible, if that's the right term, in terms of moving in and out of the crude trade? I guess I'm asking that because when I look at your performance for Q3 so far, that 65,000 on the LR2s, it seems that that's perhaps tracking closer to the dirty Aframax average versus, say, the clean LR2s. Any color you can give on that would be helpful. Thank you.

Omar Nokta: I guess just kind of big picture as we think about how LR2s are trading today, are they becoming a bit more fungible, if that's the right term, in terms of moving in and out of the crude trade? I guess I'm asking that because when I look at your performance for Q3 so far, that 65,000 on the LR2s, it seems that that's perhaps tracking closer to the dirty Aframax average versus, say, the clean LR2s. Any color you can give on that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #2: And you call it you can give on that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Hi Omar, it's Lars here. To be honest, we have always been kind of dipping into the dirty market as well on the Aframaxes. And we look at it, and have always looked at it, from an opportunistic, vessel-by-vessel perspective.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: Hi, Omar. It's Lars here. To be honest, we have always been kind of dipping into the dirty market as well on the Aframaxes. We look at it and have always looked at it from an opportunistic vessel-by-vessel perspective.

Speaker #4: There’s not a kind of broad fleet strategy in terms of that, but you mentioned fungible. I mean, it has been the case for a couple of years now that the fungibility between LR2 and Aframax has been very apparent, and we have seen a lot of cross-trading for the last couple of years.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: There's not kind of a broad fleet strategy in terms of that. You mentioned fungible. It has been the case for a couple of years now that the fungibility between LR2 and Aframax has been very apparent, and we have seen a lot of cross-trading for the last couple of years. When we have seen the markets spike on the clean, we have been holding the ships in the clean. When we have seen, as we have seen over the last period, a very strong Atlantic basin on the Aframaxes, we decided to tap into that. Clearly, it's not only us that has been doing this. We count today about 170, maybe just over 170 clean LR2s only trading in that market. You've got over 100 and 350, I think it is, Aframaxes trading dirty. A lot of them, obviously, in the Atlantic basin.

Speaker #4: And when we have seen the markets spike on the clean, we have been holding the ships in the clean, and when we have seen, as we have seen over the last period, a very strong Atlantic basin on the aftermaxes, we decided to tap into that.

Speaker #4: And clearly, it's not only us that have been doing this. We count today about 170, maybe just over 170, clean LR2s only trading in that market.

Speaker #4: And you've got over 100 and 350, I think it is, aftermaxes trading dirty. A lot of them, obviously, in the Atlantic basin. The thing that's really interesting, in my view, is that even with that amount of ships coming into that market, because of the ton-mile that James was talking to about before and, of course, the volumes in general, that market has been strong throughout.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: Yeah. Thanks, Lars. That's quite helpful commentary. Then maybe just as a follow-up, you just referenced what we've seen in the Atlantic here over the past couple of weeks. Can you maybe just give a perspective on what's driving that? We've seen it seems like across the board, whether it's LR2s, LR1s, MRs, everything seems to be moving quite a bit higher here over the past couple of weeks relative to what we've been seeing, and it looks like rates perhaps are approaching kind of, maybe not the highs yet, but it seems that they're at their highest levels in at least a few months. What's been behind this latest move?

Speaker #4: There's no doubt in my mind, as you've had that kind of low number of LR2s kind of going into the aftermarket, that it wouldn't take very much before you start seeing the LR2s, as we have been seeing over the last week now, how rates in the West are moving up. Suddenly, you see kind of a normalization, and it will be the case that you will start seeing ships moving back into clean as well.

Speaker #4: So I think, and I've mentioned this before on these calls, that you need to, today, look LR2s and aftermaxes as a much closer unison unit.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: The thing that's really interesting, in my view, is that even with that amount of ships coming into that market, because of the turmoil, the changes that we talked about before, and of course the volumes in general, that market has been strong throughout. You know, it, there's no doubt in my mind, as you've heard, that kind of low number of of LR2s, kind of going into the Aframax market, that it wouldn't take very much before you start seeing the LR2s, as we have been seeing over the last week now, how rates on the West moving up, suddenly you see a normalization and it will be the case that you'll start seeing ships moving back into clean as well. I think, and I've mentioned this before on these calls, that you need to today look LR2s and Aframaxes as a much closer, unison unit.

Omar Nokta: Yeah, Dan, thanks. That's quite helpful. Commentary. And then maybe just as a follow up, you've just referenced what we've seen in the Atlantic, here over the past couple of weeks. Can you maybe just give a perspective on what's driving that we've seen it? It seems like across the board, whether it's LR2s, LR1s, MRs, everything seems to be moving quite a bit higher here. Over the past couple of weeks, relative to what we've been seeing, you know, it looks like rates perhaps are approaching kind of, maybe not the highs yet, but the, it seems like they're at their highest levels in at least a few months. What's, what's been behind this latest move? Well, I mean, first of all, I've been doing this for

Speaker #2: Yeah. Thanks, Lars. That's quite helpful. Commentary. And then maybe just as a follow-up, you just referenced what we've seen in the Atlantic here over the past couple of weeks.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: Well, first of all, I've been doing this for a long time. I've never seen a July or August market like this, right? This is not what you would consider to be a normal kind of summer lull. First of all, you've got great refining margins, talking about the MRs. The US Gulf has been running at extremely high utilization rates. You obviously have all the different geopolitical kind of backdrop, which obviously influences the things, Russia being one. They don't have the exports that they had. You have the issues with the Bab el-Mandeb, you have the issues with Hormuz, you have the issues with stocks in general being low. It's quite clear that the volatility that we have seen talking about the MRs has been profound. Q2, we know about. We had kind of a bit of a drop.

Speaker #2: Can you maybe just give a perspective on what's driving that? We've seen it, it seems like, across the board, whether it's LR2s, LR1s, MRs, everything seems to be moving quite a bit higher here.

Speaker #2: Over the past couple of weeks, relative to what we've been seeing and it looks like rates perhaps are approaching kind of maybe not the highs yet, but it seems that they're at their highest levels in at least a few months.

Speaker #2: What's been the high in this latest move?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Well, I mean, first of all, I've been doing this for a long time. I've never seen a July or August market like this, right?

Speaker #4: I mean, this is not what you would consider to be a normal kind of summer low. I mean, first of all, you've got great refining margins, talking about the MRs. The US Gulf has been running at extremely high utilization rates.

Speaker #4: Then you obviously have all the different geopolitical kind of backdrop, which obviously influences things. Russia being one— they don't have the exports that they had.

Speaker #4: You have the issues with the bubblement there. You have the issues with the Hormuz. You have the issues with stocks in general being low.

Speaker #4: So, it's quite clear that the volatility we have seen—talking about the MRs—has been profound. I mean, to a few we know about, then we had kind of a bit of a drop.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: You see now another resurgence, as you could see on the rate reports today, where TC14 is now moving up from their lows and have now moved north of close to 320. Maybe we will go beyond that. The triangulation element on the Atlantic basin has been strong. The same, to be honest, goes also with the Aframaxes. I think the activity both in the Mediterranean has been strong. We have the issues around CPC, talking about geopolitical issues. The dislocations tends to be, in any case, always somewhat positive for tankers in general. The ton mile story is valid, and we see it every day. The spurs and the arbs are opening stuff for business. Of course, the advent of more oil coming out of South America and the United States has certainly been underpinning the dirty market as well.

Speaker #4: You're seeing now another resurgence, as you can see on the rate reports today, where TC14 is now moving up from their lows and have now moved north of what's got 320, maybe will go beyond that.

Speaker #4: So the triangulation element on the Atlantic basin has been strong. The same, to be honest, goes also with the Aframaxes. I think the activity both in the Mediterranean has been strong.

Speaker #4: We have the issues around CPC, talking about geopolitical issues. The dislocations tend to be, in any case, always somewhat positive for tankers in general.

Speaker #4: But the ton-mile story is valid. And we see it every day. The spreads and the ARBs are opening stuff for business. And of course, the advent of more oil coming out of South America, and the United States has certainly been underpinning the dirty market as well.

Speaker #2: Great. Yeah, thanks, Lars. That's very helpful insight. I'll pass it back.

Omar Nokta: Great. Yeah, thanks, Lars. That is very helpful insight. I will pass it back.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Chris Robertson with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Chris Robertson with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for taking my questions here. Yeah, fantastic job of what you guys are doing on the balance sheet. And all the issues that you've raised on what you can control so kudos to you there.

Chris Robertson: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for taking my questions here. Yeah, fantastic job of what you guys are doing on the balance sheet and all the issues that you have raised on what you can control. Kudos to you there. Just wanted to ask, maybe on the market, when the situation in the Mideast kicked off and there were some very unusual, very long-distance trading patterns, at least initially during that height of the disruption, can you comment as to, have some of those routes been more enduring, and can you give some examples of kind of how things are trading now on some of those longer and unusual routes?

Speaker #5: I just wanted to ask, maybe on the market—when the situation in the Middle East kicked off and there were some very unusual, very long-distance trading patterns, at least initially during the height of the disruption—can you comment as to whether some of those routes have been more enduring?

Speaker #5: And can you give some examples of kind of how things are trading now on some of those longer unusual routes?

Lars Dencker Nielsen: Yeah. If we go back, when it all kicked off during the Q2, we saw some really uncommon kind of voyages, which obviously a lot of it is down to the stress factors that were in place and short-term fixes and so on. I think there was a calibration that took place after that, which meant that the long-term routing still very much is in vogue. It has also helped that we have seen a little bit of an uptick on the Chinese exports, so that suddenly there's more of a balance on these things. It's quite clear that when you kind of overlay that with the issues with the Russian exports having dwindled and South America and other Africa as well, have been suffering from that.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I mean, if we go back, when it all kicked off during the second quarter, we saw some really, really uncommon kind of voyages, which obviously a lot of it is down to the stress factors that were in place and short-term fixes and so on.

Speaker #4: I think there was a calibration that took place after that, which meant that the long-term routing still very much is in vogue. It has also helped that we have seen a little bit of an uptick in Chinese exports, so that suddenly there's more of a balance on these things.

Speaker #4: But it's quite clear that when you kind of overlay that with the issues with the Russian exports having dwindled and South America and other Africa as well, have been suffering from that, you've been seeing other supply chains being created, which have increased the ton-miles as well.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: You've been seeing other supply chains being created, which have increased the ton miles as well, and then they are then sharing in the kind of the same supply pot, if you will. We have seen over the last couple of weeks, another kind of uptick in Asia, which has been interesting. The Transpac moves has increased substantially. We haven't really seen China moving up to something that is kind of over what we had anticipated. There has been a general kind of understanding of where oil is coming from until, I guess, the next shock comes in, and we'll see something different. It tends to be that there is somewhat of a normalization, everything underpinned still by extended ton mile.

Speaker #4: And then they are then sharing in the kind of the same supply part, if you will. So we have seen over the last couple of weeks another kind of uptick in Asia, which has been interesting.

Speaker #4: The Transpac moves have increased substantially. I mean, we haven't really seen China moving up to something that is kind of over what we had anticipated, but there has been a general kind of understanding of where oil is coming from until, I guess, the next shock comes in and we'll see something different.

Speaker #4: But it tends to be that there is somewhat of a normalization. Everything underpins still by kind of extended ton-mile.

Speaker #5: Thank you. Just a follow-up question, maybe as it relates to Omar's line of questioning around the LR2s trading dirty. I just wanted to better understand that dynamic here.

Chris Robertson: Thank you. Just a follow-up question, maybe as it related to Omar's line of questions around the LR2s trading dirty. Just wanted to better understand the dynamic here, just because such a great percentage of the LR2 fleet is trading dirty at the moment. In your opinion, is that mostly due to the geopolitical disruptions and the ton mile dynamics there? Could the downside be the unwinding of geopolitical risk, or what would keep that as a more enduring force going forward versus more transient?

Speaker #5: Just because such a great percentage of the LR2 fleet is trading dirty at the moment, is that mostly in your opinion, is that mostly due to the geopolitical disruptions in the ton-mile dynamics there?

Speaker #5: And could the downside be the unwinding of geopolitical risk or what would keep that as a more enduring force going forward versus more transient?

Speaker #4: I think the short answer, to be honest, Chris, is that it's all a question of time-charter equivalent. You had the mid-market ramping up towards $150,000 a couple of weeks ago.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: I think the short answer, to be honest, Chris, is that it's all a question of time charter equivalent. You had the TD25 or the med market ramping up towards $150,000 a couple of weeks ago. You had a quietening LR2 market with all the uncertainties going around it with the Hormuz and so on, which of course, is a primary trade for clean. People were saying, Well, the spreads are simply too great for us not to dip into that. What we know from the last couple of years is that if that spread flips, vessels will very quickly move into clean again. A case in point was, if you recall, a couple of years ago, you had the LR2 market out of the AG, trading at, I think it was around $8 million, and the Aframax/VLCC in particular market was languishing at that point.

Speaker #4: You had a quietening LR2 market with all the uncertainties going around it with the Hormuz and so on, which of course is a primary trade for clean.

Speaker #4: And people were saying, well, the spreads are simply too great for us not to dip into that. What we know from the last couple of years is that if that spread flips, vessels will very quickly move into clean again.

Speaker #4: A case in point was, if you recall, a couple of years ago, you had the LR2 market out of the AG trading at, I think it was around 8 million dollars at the APRA stroke VLCC in particular market was languishing at that point.

Speaker #4: And you saw suddenly what we had not seen before—a large number of vessels kind of cannibalizing into the clean market, which was kind of new to the industry.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: You saw suddenly what we had not seen before, a large number of vessels kind of cannibalizing into the clean markets, which was kind of new to the industry. That kind of flip-flopping, in particular on the Aframaxes, the coated Aframaxes, has been taking place over the last couple of years to a larger extent. There certainly is a lot more runs under the belt for people to understand how you should do this as efficiently as you can and cost efficiently as you can. One company being us as well and being able to do that. We don't fear or have any issues with that kind of fungibility and don't consider that to be transient, but to be a lot more market-related in terms of one way or the other.

Speaker #4: That kind of flip-flopping, in particular on the aftermaxes, the coded aftermaxes, has been taking place over the last couple of years to a larger extent.

Speaker #4: There certainly are a lot more runs under the belt for people to understand how you should do this as efficiently and cost-efficiently as you can.

Speaker #4: One company being us as well and being able to do that. So we don't fear or have any issues with that kind of fungibility and don't consider that to be transient, but to be a lot more market-related in terms of one way or the other.

Speaker #5: Appreciate it, Lars. Thank you, guys. I'll turn it over.

Chris Robertson: Appreciate it, Lars. Thank you, guys. I'll turn it over.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Ken Hauksner with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Ken Hoexter with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Hey, great good morning and good afternoon. Emanuel, James, great rundown. Thank you for that. You emphasized I think James in your presentation, the floor is more important than the peak with rates remaining above 30,000 in this backdrop.

Ken Hoexter: Hey, great. Good morning and good afternoon. Emanuele, James, great rundown. Thank you for that. You emphasized, I think, James, in your presentation, the floor is more important than the peak with rates remaining above 30,000 in this backdrop. Maybe a little bit of your thoughts on the floor in this backdrop, just given that, I think, Lars, you were just mentioning never seen a July like this. Maybe thoughts on the floor, thoughts on seasonality and where we go from here.

Speaker #2: It may be a little bit of your thoughts on the floor in this backdrop. Just given, I think, Lars, you were just mentioning you've never seen a July like this.

Speaker #2: So maybe thoughts on the floor, thoughts on seasonality, and where we go from here.

Speaker #5: Lars, do you want me to take that?

James Doyle: Lars, do you want me to take that?

Speaker #4: Well, you can start, James. I'll follow on. I thought the question was for you.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: Well, you can start, James. I will follow on. I thought the question was for you. Sorry.

Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks.

James Doyle: Thanks, Ken. Look, typically you get through peak gasoline season end of the summer, and you go into maintenance. What we have seen is because of the longer voyage distances, the rerouting, we are seeing unique voyages, as Lars highlighted. We think that is going to continue as disruptions and potentially rerouting as a result of Red Sea specifically, as vessels go around the Cape of Good Hope, and also disruptions with refining capacity in Russia. Russia's export ban on gasoline and diesel, that is going to increase Atlantic Basin MR volumes for compliant ships, Africa, Latin America. At the same time, we expect more naphtha to go from the US Gulf to Asia. I think there is a constructive dynamic there. Lars highlighted the strength on the LR2s and Aframax is trading crude oil.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Ken. Yeah, look, so I mean, typically you get through peak gasoline season, end of the summer, and you go into maintenance. And what we've seen is because of the longer voyage distances, the rerouting, we're seeing unique voyages as Lars highlighted and we think that's going to continue.

Speaker #1: As disruptions, and potentially rerouting as a result of Red Sea specifically, as vessels go around the Cape of Good Hope and also disruptions with refining capacity in Russia.

Speaker #1: So Russia's export ban on gasoline and diesel that's going to increase Atlantic basin MR volumes for compliant ships Africa, Latin America. And at the same time, we expect more NAFTA to go from the US Gulf to Asia so I think there's a constructive dynamic there.

Speaker #1: And then Lars highlighted the strength on the LR2s and Aftermaxes trading crude oil. We think that's going to pick up as you get into maintenance here.

James Doyle: We think that is going to pick up as you get into maintenance here, because there would be more crude volume from the Atlantic Basin that needs to go to Asia.

Speaker #1: Because there will be more crude volume from the Atlantic Basin that needs to go to Asia.

Speaker #2: All right. Lars, did you want to jump in or should you want me to follow up? I guess I'll throw in the follow-up and anybody can jump in.

Ken Hoexter: All right. Lars, did you want to jump in, or do you want me to follow up? I guess I'll throw in the follow-up, anybody can jump in. You mentioned inventories were down about 400 million barrels since the start of the conflict with much current demand needs to be met by refinery runs versus inventory draws. Maybe your thoughts on the time frame.

Speaker #2: But you mentioned inventories were down about 400 million barrels since the start of the conflict with much current demand needs to be met by refinery runs versus inventory draws.

Speaker #2: Maybe your thoughts on the timeframe I guess in terms of if we're going into maintenance season, the drawdown or the ability for refineries to continue to meet that demand versus then timeframe for beginning to restock.

Ken Hoexter: I guess in terms of if we're going into maintenance season, the drawdown or the ability for refineries to continue to meet that demand versus then timeframe for beginning to restock.

Speaker #4: Yeah, so there was a lot of crude that was shipped in June and it takes about 30 days for that to get to Asia.

James Doyle: Yeah. There was a lot of crude that was shipped in June, and it takes about 30 days for that to get to Asia, 45 days to get to Europe. That's arriving now. I think runs are going to pick up in those regions, and you'll get increased regional trading, which is going to be fantastic for the medium-range ships. If you looked at refinery runs year-over-year, I think July was down about 5 million barrels per day. Out of the Middle East refining capacity, the only refinery that's actually down right now is Jubail. As things normalize, we expect runs to pick back up here. While you might have kind of the US Gulf maintenance coming in, say, September, we expect runs throughout the rest of the world to pick up at the same time.

Speaker #4: Forty-five days to get to Europe, and that's arriving now. So, I think runs are going to pick up in those regions, and you'll get increased regional trading, which is going to be fantastic for the medium-range ships.

Speaker #4: And if you looked at refinery runs year over year, I think July was down about 5 million barrels per day. But out of the Middle East refining capacity, the only refinery that's actually down right now is Jazan.

Speaker #4: So as things normalize, we expect runs to pick back up here. So, while you might have the US Gulf maintenance coming in, say, September, we expect runs throughout the rest of the world to pick up at the same time.

Speaker #4: So that's going to create a constructive dynamic for us. And also the fleets really out of its normal positioning. So I think that's going to be constructive as well.

James Doyle: That's going to create a constructive dynamic for us and also the fleet's really out of its normal positioning. I think that's going to be constructive as well.

Speaker #2: Thanks, James. Thanks, guys.

Ken Hoexter: Thanks, James. Thanks, guys.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Ken. Your next question comes from Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thanks, Ken. Your next question comes from Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Great, good morning and good afternoon. Good afternoon, everyone. I think maybe just continuing of basically continuing the thread of the last conversation here. Do you think that the events that's really we've seen over the last certainly the last six months, but maybe even the last 12 months have structurally changed really that LR2 market from anything we've historically seen?

Stephanie Moore: Great. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. I think maybe just basically continuing the thread of the last conversation here. Do you think that the events that really we've seen over certainly the last 6 months, but maybe even the last 12 months, have structurally changed really that LR2 market from anything we've historically seen? How are you weighing maybe the supply and demand landscape over the next 12 months? Thanks.

Speaker #6: And how are you weighing maybe the supply and demand landscape over the next 12 months? Thanks.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: I'll start, James. What's happened over the last 6 months, it's just a good question. What's going to happen tomorrow? We don't know. What we want to look at is just the pure fundamentals in terms of what are we looking at. One thing I think is for sure is that the longer voyage distances that are in place, they certainly tighten supply. This has been a key thesis over the last number of years for the reasons that James mentioned in his prepared remarks. That has not changed. It has also not changed that the issues of the sanctioned fleet and the age of the same is certainly getting to a place where, in a normal market environment, those ships would not exist. I'm of the opinion that those sanctioned vessels will never enter into the primary trade again.

Speaker #4: I'll start, James. What's happened over the last six months, it's just a good question. What's going to happen tomorrow, we don't know. I mean, what we want to look at is just a pure fundamentals in terms of what are we looking at.

Speaker #4: One thing I think is for sure is that the longer voyage distances that are in place, they certainly tighten supply. This has been a key thesis over the last number of years for the reasons that James mentioned in his prepared remarks.

Speaker #4: That has not changed. It has also not changed that the issues are the sanctioned fleet and the age of the same is certainly getting to a place where in a normal market environment, those ships will not exist.

Speaker #4: And I'm of the opinion that those sanctions vessels will never enter into the primary trade again. So we know that crude has kind of developed in further field areas.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: We know that crude has kind of developed in further afield areas. We know where the refineries are. That's also further afield. That certainly has not changed. What certainly has changed is that there's a lot more dislocations and disruptions that take place and have been taking place over the last more than six months, a couple of years, I would even say that. In terms of any dislocation that we have seen has always created a potential for product tankers and now also for the crude market.

Speaker #4: We know where the refineries are. That's also further afield. That certainly has not changed. What certainly has changed is that there are a lot more dislocations and disruptions that take place—and have been taking place—over the last more than six months, a couple of years, I would even say that.

Speaker #4: In terms of any dislocation that we have seen has always created a potential for product tankers and now also for the crude market. And it's clear that if you then look over the medium term and say, well, we're in a position right now where considering the issues that we've had facing the global economy and the stock draws that have been taking place and the flat price that also kind of follows, you'd say, well, at some point in time, you're going to have to think about how you're going to get into a min-ops situation.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: It's clear that to then look over the medium-term and say, well, we're in a position right now where considering the issues that we've had facing the global economy and the stock draws that have been taking place and the flat price that also kind of follow, you'd say, well, at some point in time you're going to have to think about how you're going to get into a min ops situation. I think underlying, that's all great, and I'll just kind of reiterate James's point about what are we looking at here in terms of age profile of ships as we move over the next couple of years? What is the fleet profile coming on all over the next couple of years? You put all of those things in there, and in a normal circumstance it doesn't look scary to me.

Speaker #4: So, I think underlying, that's all great. And I'll just kind of reiterate James's point about: What are we looking at here in terms of the age profile of ships as we move over the next couple of years?

Speaker #4: What is the fleet profile coming on order over the next couple of years? And you put all of those things in there, and in a normal circumstance, it doesn't look scary to me.

Speaker #4: And but we are living in a highly uncertain political environment. You've got things coming in from left and right field every single day, more or less.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: We are living in a very highly uncertain political environment. You've got things coming in left, right field every single day, more or less. One of the key elements that we try to do at any given time from an operational commercial perspective is be as nimble as we can to react to these changes as they come on a very frequent basis.

Speaker #4: And one of the key elements that we try to do at any given time from an operational commercial perspective is be as nimble as we can to react to these changes as they come on a very frequent basis.

Speaker #6: Understood. Thank you. Just for my follow-up here, I think following the refinancing activity, your debt profile is now heavily weighted towards the converts. So, how should we think about potential dilution, conversion scenarios, and maybe your preferred method of settlement, especially should the stock trade meaningfully above the conversion price?

Stephanie Moore: Understood. Thank you. Just for my follow-up here, I think following the refinancing activity, your debt profile is now heavily weighted towards the converts. How should we think about this potential dilution conversion scenarios and maybe your preferred method of settlement, especially should the stock trade meaningfully above the conversion price? Thanks.

Speaker #6: Thanks.

Speaker #7: Hi, Stephanie. Thanks for the question. Look, we just we're fresh off the convertible. So we're obviously happy with the transaction and the execution of it.

Chris Avella: Hi, Stephanie. Thanks for the question. Look, we're fresh off the convertible, we're obviously happy with the transaction and the execution of it. One of the biggest features of the notes is that we can settle it in cash or shares. The trigger for that is 130% over the conversion price. I think everybody here on the call would be thrilled if we get to those levels, and we'll address that

James Doyle: Hi, Stephanie. Thanks for the question. Look, we're fresh off the convertible, we're obviously happy with the transaction and the execution of it. One of the biggest features of the notes is that we can settle it in cash or shares. The trigger for that is 130% over the conversion price. I think everybody here on the call would be thrilled if we get to those levels, and we'll address that

Speaker #7: One of the biggest features of the notes is that we can settle it in cash or shares. The trigger for that is 130% over the conversion price.

Speaker #7: So I think everybody here on the call would be thrilled if we get to those levels. And we will address that if it happens.

James Doyle: If it happens, in terms of how we'll choose to settle it. Right now, the maximum number of shares that can be issued is 6 million shares. That's what the conversion rate is. That's something for down the road. Right now we're happy with how it fits into our capital structure, and in particular, the low cash costs which have driven down our cash breakevens on the notes.

Speaker #7: And in terms of how we'll choose to settle it, right now, the maximum number of shares that can be issued is 6 million shares.

Speaker #7: That's what the conversion rate is. So that's something for down the road. But right now, we're just we're happy with how it fits into our capital structure and in particular, the low cash cost, which have driven down our cash break evens on the notes.

Speaker #6: Understood. Thank you, guys.

Stephanie Moore: Understood. Thank you, guys.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Sheriff Emma Grabby with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from Sharareh Emami Rabii with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Just one for me today. During the quarter, one of your LR2s had it time tried or extended. And just looking at the rest of the fleet, there's a handful of other tankers rolling off time charter in the next year or so.

Sharareh Emami Rabii: Just one from me today. During the quarter, one of your LR2s had its time charter extended. Just looking at the rest of the fleet, there's a handful of other tankers rolling off time charter in the next year or so. I'm wondering if you're seeing a higher likelihood that these time charters get extended, if there's even options to do so, and maybe your thoughts on what you're seeing in the time charter market more broadly. Thanks.

Speaker #2: So I'm wondering if you see you're seeing a higher likelihood that these time charters get extended if there's even options to do so. And maybe your thoughts on what you're seeing in the time charter market more broadly.

Speaker #2: Thanks.

Speaker #4: On that particular time charter, it wasn't option. Historically, that was in place. Any time charters that we would do today would be new time charters in the market.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: On that particular time charter, it was an option historically that was in place. Any time charters that we would do today would be new time charters in the market. In terms of time charter strategy, we've always been very opportunistic about it to have a balanced view on how much of our fleet would be on time charter. We have a number of ships rolling off. It has also been reported that the two time charters have been secured at levels that we have not seen before. It's also an interesting point, I guess is that time charter inquiry, generally speaking, even over the summer months, has been high, which is interesting.

Speaker #4: In terms of time charter strategy, we always been very optimistic about it to have a balanced view on how much of our fleet would be on time charter.

Speaker #4: We have a number of ships rolling off. We have been looking and has also been reported that a few time charters have been secured.

Speaker #4: At levels that we have not seen before. It's also an interesting point, I guess, is that time charter inquiry generally speaking, even over the summer months, has been high.

Speaker #4: Which is interesting. The people that are looking at time charters tend to be the oil companies and now some of the traders are coming in as well.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: The people that are looking at time charters tend to be the oil companies, now some of the traders are coming in as well, there is a generally good level of demand on that. When it comes to ourselves, very much a balanced approach as we've had for a while. Certainly, dominated by a view that we would look at this opportunistically, very much so that people, the counterparties that we deal with are people that we have long-standing strategic relationships with that we can build around it.

Speaker #4: And so there is a generally good level of demand on that. But when it comes to ourselves, very much a balanced approach as we've had for a while.

Speaker #4: But certainly, dominated by a view that we would look at this opportunistically and very much so that the people that the counterparties that we deal with are people that we have long-standing and strategic relationships with that we can build around it.

Speaker #2: Great color is always large. Thank you.

Sharareh Emami Rabii: Great color as always, Lars. Thank you.

Operator: Liam Burke, please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Leonberg. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Yes. Thank you. Prior to the dust up early in 2026, prior to the dust up in the Mid East, the outlook for the product tankers was great.

Liam Burke: Yes, thank you. Early in 2026, prior to the dust-up in the Middle East, the outlook for the product tankers was great. You had an aging fleet, you had redistribution of global capacity. Presuming that things get to normal someday, are we looking at redistribution to continue, or are some of the traditional refiners not in the Middle East, not in China, will they continue to refine oil, or do you expect the process to continue?

Speaker #5: They had an aging fleet. You had redistribution of global capacity. Presuming that things get back to normal someday, are we looking at redistribution to continue, or are some of the traditional refiners—not in the Middle East, not in China—going to continue to refine oil, or do you expect the process to continue?

Speaker #1: As far as I can take that. Hey, Liam, thanks for the question. Now, we absolutely expect the refinery dislocation to continue. It takes at a minimum seven years, probably, to build a new refinery.

James Doyle: Lars, I can take that. Hey, Liam, thanks for the question.

Liam Burke: Hey, James.

James Doyle: No, we absolutely expect the refinery dislocation to continue. It takes at a minimum 7 years probably to build a new refinery, and many of those refineries haven't started construction today. If you think about demand in emerging markets where we see a lot of growth, there's not refining capacity being built there. In developed markets, Northern United States, West Coast United States, we close capacity. We see a scenario where ton miles are going to continue to grow over time. If anything, what we've seen as a result of this conflict, if you look at crude price changes versus product price changes and cracks have moved meaningfully. I think that reflects how dislocated the refining capacity system is, and we'll be happy to transport those cargoes to consuming regions.

Speaker #1: And many of those refineries haven't start construction today. If you think about demand in emerging markets where we see a lot of growth, there's not refining capacity being built there.

Speaker #1: And in developed markets, Northern United States, West Coast United States, we close capacity. So we see a scenario where ton miles are going to continue to grow over time.

Speaker #1: And if anything, what we've seen as a result of this conflict, if you look at crude price changes versus product price changes and cracks, cracks have moved meaningfully.

Speaker #1: So, I think that reflects how dislocated the refining capacity system is, and we’ll be happy to transport those cargoes to consuming regions.

Speaker #5: Okay. And I guess on the supply side, we've got an aging fleet. Especially on the MR side, have extended rates going to the far end extend the life of some of these older MRs?

Liam Burke: Okay. I guess on the supply side, we've got an aging fleet, especially on the MR side. Have extended rates going to, at the far end, extend the life of some of these older MRs? Would you anticipate the traditional rule of once it hits a certain age, refiners don't want to use the vessel?

Speaker #5: Or would you anticipate the traditional rule of once it hits a certain age, refiners don't want to use the vessel?

Speaker #1: Lars.

James Doyle: Lars?

Lars Dencker Nielsen: Yeah. I think it's fair to say that there is a hard stop at 20 these days for vessels. We've been seeing that even in strong markets. It's not that long ago where people were looking at 15, and people were saying, Well, I don't want a time charter ship that's more than 10. That has moved towards a higher level in terms of age. Even during the very strong markets from a primary trade perspective, it is very uncommon that we've been seeing ships over 20 being traded. DHT being obviously the exception.

Speaker #4: I think, yeah. I think it's fair to say that there is a hard stop at 20 these days for vessels. We've been seeing that even in strong markets.

Speaker #4: It's not that long ago when people were looking at 15, and people were saying, well, I don't want a time-charter ship that's more than 10.

Speaker #4: That kind of has moved towards a higher level in terms of age. But even during the very strong markets, from a primary trade perspective, it's very, very uncommon that we've been seeing ships over 20 being traded directly, being obviously the exception.

Speaker #4: But it's clear that if you look at overall from a fleet segment perspective and you look at the age profile on MRs, as you rightfully point out, but also on the aftermaxes, it is an interesting kind of picture that's being drawn over the next couple of years in terms of what that age profile is going to look like.

Lars Dencker Nielsen: It's clear that if you look at overall from a fleet segment perspective and you look at the age profile on MRs, as you rightfully point out, also on the Aframaxes, it is an interesting picture that's being drawn over the next couple of years in terms of what that age profile is going to look like.

Speaker #5: Great. Thank you, Lars. Thank you, James.

Liam Burke: Great. Thank you, Lars. Thank you, James.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Liam. Your last question comes from Christopher Ski with Arctic Securities. Please go ahead.

Emanuele Lauro: Thanks, Ian.

Emanuele Lauro: Thanks, Liam.

Emanuele Lauro: Your last question comes from Kristoffer Skeie with Arctic Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Thanks for a good presentation as always. I was just wondering if you can comment on the DLCC joint venture and the rationale behind the investment.

Kristoffer Skeie: Hey, guys. Thanks for a good presentation as always. I was just wondering if you can comment on the VLCC joint venture and the rationale behind the investment. Who are the other partners? Where are the vessels ordered, and for what price typical, and what type of leverage levels you are aiming for? In other words, what's the equity commitment there?

Speaker #6: Who are the other partners? Where are the vessels ordered, and what is the typical price? And what type of leverage levels are you aiming for?

Speaker #6: So in other words, what's the equity commitment here?

Emanuele Lauro: Thanks for the question. I think from financial standpoint, the exposure, as you can see, is not meaningful compared to our balance sheet. The reason why we did this investment is more strategic. The partner is the UBO of the largest private shipbuilder in China. We have a relationship with this gentleman for many years. This opportunity came about where he was looking for a partner in the shipping side, not only potentially in order to operate the vessels once they get delivered. We thought that it made sense for us to get the opportunity, even though, as you see financially, it's not a meaningful transaction for our balance sheet. That's the interest, the reason. On the expectations on the rates, the ships are delivering far away. We are going to take delivery of the Hanwha ships before that.

Speaker #7: Thanks for the question. I think from financial standpoint, the exposure, as you can see, is not meaningful compared to our balance sheet. So the reason why we did this investment is more strategic.

Speaker #7: The partner is the UBO of the largest private shipbuilder in China. And we have a relationship with this gentleman for many years. And this opportunity came about where he was looking for a partner in the shipping side and not only potentially in order to operate the vessels.

Speaker #7: Once they get delivered and we thought that it made sense for us to get the opportunity even though, as you see, financially, it's not a meaningful transaction from our balance sheet.

Speaker #7: So that's the.

Speaker #6: Interesting.

Speaker #7: The reason and on the expectations on the rates—the ships are delivering far away. We are going to take delivery of the Hanwha ships before that, and so far, I think it is too early to talk about market expectations, and our guess is as good as anyone's.

Emanuele Lauro: So far, I think that it's too early to talk about market expectations, our guess is as good as anyone's. We like the sector. We believe in the sector. We've been looking at getting exposure gradually. You may remember with the DHT investment, once we divested from DHT in the latter part of 2025, we decided to get into the physical part of the investment by ordering the ships at Hanwha. This joint venture is a nice top up with a strategic twist for us.

Speaker #7: So we like the sector. We believe in the sector. We've been looking at getting exposure gradually. You may remember with the DHT investments. Once we've divested from DHT in the last latter part of 2025, we decided to get into the physical part of the investment by ordering the ships at Hanwha and this joint venture is a nice top-up with a strategic twist for us.

Speaker #6: Thanks a lot for a good answer. Looks quite interesting.

Kristoffer Skeie: Thanks a lot for a good answer. Looks quite interesting.

Speaker #7: Sure.

Emanuele Lauro: Sure.

Speaker #1: That concludes with our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call over back to Emanuele Lauro, CEO for the closing remarks.

Operator: That concludes with our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over back to Emanuele Lauro, CEO, for the closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Thank you very much, operator. I don't have any closing remarks. Just wanted to thank everybody for their time and continued support and look forward to speaking with you going forward.

Emanuele Lauro: Thank you very much, operator. I don't have any closing remarks. Just wanted to thank everybody for their time and continued support, and look forward to speaking with you going forward. Thank you.

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.

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