Q1 2020 Earnings Call

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Hello, everyone and welcome to Wileys first quarter 2020 earnings update with me in the room is Brian <unk>, President and CEO , and John Kritzmacher, CFO and SVP operations.

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I'll now turn the call over to Brian APEC, Wileys, President and CEO .

Thank you, Brian and thank you all for joining us today.

I'm going to start with a brief refresher on the new segment definitions that we announced last quarter.

Going forward, we will be reporting on the following three segments research publishing and platforms education publishing it professional learning and education services. These segments align well with the way, we manage the business and with our growth strategy.

Research publishing and platforms are research is essentially unchanged from prior periods. It includes our research Journal publishing our author services and corporate services and add upon our research platforms business for context. This segment accounted for over half of why at least total revenue this quarter.

The second segment education publishing and professional learning delivers educational products in the form of content in courseware test prep programs corporate training and digital learning platforms for students professionals universities and corporations within this segment education publishing refers to our higher education and reference publishing and our test prep business.

Professional learning refers to our professional development programs corporate training services and professional books, which are all focused on the development of skills and capabilities in corporate settings.

[noise] education publishing professional learning accounted for around a third of total Wiley revenue in the quarter.

We like the potential synergies and efficiencies enabled by this new alignment.

Education services is our third segment.

It delivers tech enabled services that help universities corporations and students to achieve important educational outcomes.

This segment includes degree program management, and Credentialing services, such as boot camps.

Education services accounted for 12% of revenue this quarter and is growing nicely.

Please see the attached financial schedules for more financial details regarding these segments and see our August 8-K for historical segment Restatements.

With that context, I'll now give an overview of the key takeaways from our Q1 performance.

Overall performance was mixed in the quarter.

Good revenue <unk> revenue and EBITDA growth in research and education services offset a decline in education publishing and professional learning.

I'll walk through the segment results shortly but I am generally pleased with the momentum that we saw in key areas of the business, including research publishing overall open access at upon and our education services business.

We did see a substantial earnings decline year on year, but this was largely anticipated due to our investments in growth and efficiency initiatives across the company.

We expect higher revenues for the remaining three quarters with topline growth every quarter compared to prior year and a significantly lower rate of decline in earnings than we saw in the first quarter.

As such we are confident that we will meet our full year outlook.

You will note that our outlook has been updated but only to reflect the impact of our recent cybex acquisition.

Free cash flow performance for the quarter was favorable to prior year by $45 million driven mostly by clearing out the Q4 backlog of journal subscription collections, John will talk more about this but we anticipate fiscal year 20 free cash flow to be in the range of $210 million to $230 million up from $149 million in fiscal 19.

We continue to make very good progress in implementing our strategy to lead in research and education, while enhancing the efficiency and effectiveness or over <unk> of our organization.

I will highlight key elements of this progress below and we're beginning to see early indicators of success across our businesses.

Two notable steps forward in the first quarter, where our acquisitions of Newton, which we spoke about last quarter and now than say a rapidly growing digital courseware business, which we acquired for $56 million.

Zantac known in the market as ibooks has created a catalog of compelling and effective courses in fast growing computer science and stem disciplines, and they're gaining very rapid adoption will talk more about the strategic importance of these acquisitions a bit later.

But first I'll go into a bit more detail on the results on the topline Wileys revenue grew 5% for the quarter driven by good growth in research and education services as well as the inorganic contributions of our recent acquisitions adjusted EBITDA at constant currency was down 18%, while EPS declined 54% in the first quarter.

As indicated this earnings decline was largely anticipated driven by the timing of efficiency gains planned investments in growth initiatives and our recent acquisitions.

Our research business had a positive quarter, all around with revenue up 3% and adjusted EBITDA up 5%.

Open access publishing continues to show strong double digit growth and we continue to make great progress as leader in research publishing to date, we have signed five innovative mixed model publishing deals around the world to remind you mixed model is defined as a combination of traditional subscriptions and open access or pay to publish models.

These deals include Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, and Ohio, and Virginia in the U.S.

These are all good deals for both Wiley and for our customers. The common thread in all of them is the creation of new ways to help researchers publish and promote their work while being both scalable and economically beneficial to both sides.

The agreement that we announced this quarter with both Ohio link and Virginia's academic Library consortium.

Represent open access solutions well suited for the us market.

Notably subscriptions continue to be the core model for these customers with open access or away being complimentary and additive.

It's important to note that mixed model deals like these are important alongside subscription models, but still remain a relatively small part of the global research publishing business away was 6% of our research revenue for fiscal 19 and is consistently growing at strong double digit rates going forward. We expect a healthy mix of business models. Most importantly, wiley is well positioned to take advantage of the opportunity to publish more through all our business models as global research output continues to increase.

Without question the secret to our long term success in research is the strength of our journal publishing portfolio. Our global reach includes over 1600 journal titles, including many of the research communities. Most highly respected brands. These high impact brands are where leading researchers go to publish their unique and valuable discoveries.

Our market share of papers published continues to grow and in the latest annual Clara Veight Journal Citation reports is a strong 10%.

And we received a total of 26 number one rankings.

Separately, we continue to add important and prestigious society partnerships.

Quality matters to the research community and Wileys portfolio of brands keeps getting stronger.

Driven by this and by strong endemic growth in global R&D spending demand to publish in our journals continues to rise with article submissions growing at high single digit rates significantly above market growth.

And our online library usage continues growing at strong double digit rates, the latter being driven by significant usage growth in Asia.

Finally add upon our industry, leading research platform continues its strong growth revenue was up 10% in the quarter and we continue to see good momentum in the pipeline.

Moreover, user sessions were up 12% for the trailing trailing 12 month period compared to prior year for a total of 3.2 billion sessions, that's a huge number and it reflects the kind of global impact that we're targeting at Wiling.

So overall it was a good quarter for our research business.

Let's move on to education publishing and professional learning.

The education publishing part of this segment had a difficult first quarter with revenue down 10% due to softness in books and test prep I would note that the first quarter is seasonally much lighter than the rest of the year for education publishing.

And the professional learning business was down 2% in the quarter with continued growth in our corporate training business offset by declines in trade book publishing.

Overall, adjusted EBITDA for Education publishing and professional learning was down 37% for the quarter due to lower revenue and costs associated with investments in growth initiatives.

For the full year, we are anticipating marginal revenue growth for the education publishing and professional learning segment inclusive of the Newton inside books contributions.

At a more granular level.

The decline in test prep revenue reflected lighter demand for RG, Matt and SCPA programs, while at the same time, we saw good momentum in our CFA NCM eight programs and also in the signing of 26, New University Test Prep partners. We continue to anticipate double digit growth in test prep for the year.

Despite this our higher Ed publishing business is actually seeing positive momentum in important areas. We've seen good user growth in digital courseware, and we've seen strong early momentum and inclusive access and rental programs business models that ensure all students have access to our course materials at affordable prices, we are growing our frontlist in high demand disciplines like stem computer science, and accounting and we have significantly upgraded our learning technology platforms. We have strong publishing plans in place and believe that we are well on our way to returning our profitable higher education publishing business to growth.

Notably, we recently signed up the prestigious American Society for Microbiology, two unique new partnership among other things, we'll be launching a new subscription service based on Asms excellent content and built on our own at upon platform.

This exciting opportunity Leverages Wiley strength in both publishing and platforms. We see many more of these cross wiley opportunities in the future.

Our corporate training business continues to demonstrate solid momentum growing nicely in signing new training partners to market our professional development programs.

In corporate learning Crossknowledge land at 13, new corporate learning clients this quarter, including Blackrock.

And has a strong pipeline for the rest of the year.

While the education services had a good first quarter with both revenue and EBITDA up significantly backing out inorganic contributions from the learning House acquisition acquired in November of 2018 growth was about 9% with the learning House revenue was up 69%.

Adjusted EBITDA in Education services Rose $2 million from a 2 million loss to a small profit. The result of added scale organic revenue and efficiency gains, including continuing benefit from the learning House integration.

We've always taken a measured long term approach to growing this business and feel very good about where we're headed I am pleased to see the revenue and EBITDA improvement in this quarter I'm also pleased with our momentum in signing new partners and expanding programs at existing partners. We signed four new partnerships in the quarter, adding to our industry, leading University footprint. These included Eastern Oregon University and Babson College, we also announced new programs at Northern Illinois University, and the University of Birmingham in the UK.

I would like to talk a bit now about our two new Ed Tech acquisitions, and how they directly support Wiley strategy and our future success in education.

You will recall that Wileys goal in education is to lead in high demand career focused disciplines, such as stem business finance and accounting and computer science. These are areas, where the Wiley book brand is strong where demand is high due to continued job growth and were effective digital courseware is absolutely essential to achieving learning outcomes.

You will also recall that we are committed to delivering more affordable content solutions and business models that ensure every student can have access to our wiley content to help them achieve their goals.

So three strategic pillars, I've, just talked about one a focus on high demand disciplines in fast growing careers to grade education technology, and three more affordable solutions.

This past quarter, we made two important moves that support all three of these strategic pillars.

On May 30, Onest, we acquired Newton a market leader in data driven adaptive learning over the past decade Newton created one of the most advanced education platforms in the industry. The Newton engine is strongly additives to Wileys, Ed Tech Arsenal and is broadly applicable across our entire education business using this platform Newton today delivers a highly effective but low cost courseware offering known as Alberta.

Alta courses have been proven to help students succeed in a wide array of large introductory courses in math economic statistics and chemistry.

Alta Courseware is currently in use by over 50000 students and this number is growing rapidly.

On July 1st we acquired Cybex for $56 million.

Like Newton Zied books provides truly innovative high impact digital courseware that meets the needs of today's students at a cost that is significantly lower than traditional textbooks.

Its digital first the approach to publishing delivers engaging content in a package that works for today's students.

Built on a unique platform and an innovative approach to teaching and learning Zied books drives higher learner engagement and persistence by delivering compelling easy to consume content and hands on learning.

In end use it has been shown to be significantly more effective than traditional content and it is taking off in the market, especially in the fast growing computer computing and stem disciplines that Wiley is targeting.

Since 2012. The company has served over 600000 students at over 600 institutions the rate of uptake and strong double digit revenue growth speaks for itself.

These two important acquisitions address all three pillars that I outlined earlier high demand career focused disciplines.

Great Ed Tech and Affordable solutions Newton inside books are delivering solutions that the market is demanding in that are strongly additive to wileys plans and education.

With that I'll hand, the call over to John to run you through the financials.

Thank you Brian .

Our free cash flow performance for the quarter was favorable by $45 million consistent with our expectations for clearing the fourth quarter backlog of calendar year 2019 journal subscription collections.

As a reminder, wileys cash flow is typically a use of cash in the first half of the fiscal year, principally due to the timing of collections for annual journal subscriptions, which is heavily skewed towards the late fall and winter months.

Cash from operations for the quarter was a use of $94 million of 51 million dollar improvement over prior year, while free cash flow improved by $45 million to use of $125 million.

Capital expenditures, including technology property, and equipment and product development spending rose $6 million to $30 million due to expected investment in products and platforms.

Our balance sheet remains strong with our net debt to EBITDA ratio at 1.7 inclusive of our recent acquisitions.

We continue to return cash to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases.

In June the company raised its dividend to 34 cents per quarter, a 3% increase over prior year.

During the first quarter, we also repurchased 218000 shares at an average cost per share of $45.97 for a total share repurchase of $10 million.

Approximately 1.7 million shares remain in our current repurchase authorization.

We are tightly focused on executing our strategy to lead in research and career focused education.

Our strategy includes companywide business optimization initiatives, which are enabling efficiency improvements and savings across the business.

In connection with these optimization initiatives, we recorded an $11 million restructuring charge in the quarter. The charge reflects actions to reduce management layers and increase spans of control in several parts of the business.

It also reflects actions underway to implement process improvements across several functions, including content management technology and other shared services functions.

As a reminder, we expect gross annualized savings over the three year period to be approximately $100 million, although most of that will be reinvested to enable profitable revenue growth.

On our last call, we indicated that we expected a Q1 restructuring charge of $15 million to $20 million, our lower actual charge in the quarter largely reflects some further work to be done on our business optimization execution plans and we do anticipate some additional restructuring charges across the three year period.

Moving onto our fiscal 2020 outlook, we anticipate improved revenue and cash flow for fiscal 2020, accompanied by a rather large dip in earnings which we discussed on our year end call in June .

Much of this earnings dip is related to investments for growth including acquisitions.

For context incremental investments for profitable growth will drive about 35 cents of the fiscal 2000 EPS decline. The remaining difference includes slightly more than 15 cents and higher depreciation and amortization and seven cents from higher interest expense.

Based on leading indicators, we are reaffirming our full year outlook, but updating it to reflect the recent addition of XIAFLEX.

Given the closing of the XIAFLEX acquisition in the third month of our fiscal year.

Cybex will contribute $15 million in revenue and unfavorably impact EBITDA and EPS by $3 million.10, respectively.

For the remaining three quarters, we expect seasonally higher revenues and year over year topline growth in every quarter.

Earnings will be lower than prior year for the remainder of fiscal 2020, but the rate of decline will be substantially lower than we observed in the first quarter and in line with our prior annual guidance.

Our updated outlook reflects these impacts and is as follows.

Revenue between 1.85, fives, and 1.85 billion as compared to a fiscal 19 actual of $1.8 billion even.

Adjusted EBITDA between 357, and $372 million as compared to $388 million in fiscal 2019.

Adjusted EPS of $2.35 to $2.45 as compared to fiscal 2019 actual of $2.96. As noted most of the variance is a result of investment in growth initiatives and acquisitions.

And finally free cash flow between 210 in $230 million as compared to $149 million in fiscal 2019.

Note our outlook is based upon average foreign exchange rates for our fiscal year 2019, and excludes the impact of foreign exchange movements in fiscal year 2020.

Foreign exchange rate movements adversely impacted our first quarter revenue by $6 million and had only a modest impact on earnings.

Current exchange rates were to hold we would see a significant adverse impacts to revenue and earnings over the balance of this year.

On our last call. We also shared financial performance targets for our fiscal 2022, including revenue of approximately $2 billion and EBITDA of approximately $440 million.

The XIAFLEX acquisition will further strengthen our position to achieve these longer term revenue and earnings objectives.

And now I'll hand, the call back to Brian .

Thanks, John .

Let me quickly summarize the key messages for this quarter.

Performance was mixed in the first quarter, good revenue and EBITDA growth in research and education services offsetting declines in education publishing and professional learning.

We're pleased with the momentum we're seeing in key strategic areas of our business such as research publishing overall open access at upon and education services.

We experienced softness in education publishing and professional learning specifically in books and test prep, we expect better performance through the rest of the year. This along with our planned investments resulted in a significant quarterly earnings Devin.

Cash flow performance for the quarter was favorable by $45 million for 26% improvement over prior year showcasing the strong and sustainable cash flow characteristics of our business.

We're very pleased about the progress we're making in implementing our strategy to lead and research and education, while improving the efficiency and effectiveness of our businesses.

We added critical capabilities and momentum in education with design books, and Newton acquisitions and in doing so have advanced our key strategies to lead in high growth disciplines have great education technology and deliver affordable solutions for students.

Finally, we are reaffirming our full year outlook updated for the acquisition of XIAFLEX.

For the for the year, we expect revenue and cash flow improvement, but an earnings dip as we invest in growth and acquisitions as noted in June we expect those investments to result in significant improvement in fiscal 21 and beyond.

I want to finish by thanking all of our wonderful Wiley College colleagues for their great contributions to our growing momentum and to the ongoing success of our researchers learners corporations and universities around the world.

And thank you all for joining us today.

One reminder, we would love to have you attend our upcoming Investor day scheduled for Friday October 5th in Hoboken, New Jersey, we will have various members of the team presenting and providing more color on our strong markets and on the road ahead for John Wiley and sons.

If youre interested in attending which we hope you are please RSVP to Brian Campbell with that as background, we welcome your comments and questions.

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And our first question comes from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Your line is now open.

Good morning, Thanks for the color taking the questions.

Let's start with Cybex a recent acquisition.

Based on the guidance looks like EBITDA was is on at least on a trailing basis.

Negative by a few million dollars wanted to check if that's correct.

And number two just more strategically what is it that they bring to the table I know you gave good color, Brian , but maybe a little more color on what they bring to the table that you Wiley.

Hasn't developed internally and then a quick follow up there. Thank you.

So so Dan its John as we've noted in the in the slides we are going to see a modestly adverse impact to EBITDA from the Cybex acquisition in the year.

But its although its rate of growth going forward is substantial and so with its growth we expect to get into EBITDA positive territory quickly.

And I'll pick it up from there from a.

Strategic perspective.

As I think I commented on Zied books.

Fits perfectly with our strategy. This three part three pillar strategy that I reviewed a couple of times with regard to targeting high growth disciplines in high growth.

Job categories, so that the education, we provide.

Is is the education is being demanded in the marketplace as driven by the labor market.

I will talk about the technology platform as well they deliver very innovative technology platform and take a digital first approach to publishing which is which is very different than the way anybody has previously published in these areas essentially they're providing the content to students in a really really easily digestible accessible way very lightweight.

And then following that up with hands on activity that drives that drives home. The learning. This lightweight wait approach is extremely engaging for students who don't want to read the chapters after chapters in textbooks and really want to get their hands on and start learning right from the start.

And so that approach has come up with a course catalog in these high growth disciplines that is growing extremely rapidly. This digital first approach to publishing means that we don't have to come out with new additions every few years. We can continue to update content as we go along and because it's a lightweight content. The content itself is cheaper to create so in total we can create we can deliver effective outcomes that are lower cost to create lower cost to the student and ultimately very profitable. So as you know Wiley is focus as a publisher in higher Ed we're not trying to do everything we are trying to focus on disciplines, where where there will be growth. We're trying to focus on in disciplines in courses, where the technology really makes a difference and we're trying to deliver these things on a low cost basis.

To the extent that I'm repeating myself, it's because I think that those messages are really important we're not trying to do everything we are trying to win where the market needs, where they were but market market needs great. Great solution. So why didnt. We deliver this stuff ourselves that is this is a completely different way to publish this digital first approach to publishing this lightweight not tech savvy demonstration heavy content is much more appealing and the idea that this particular company had innovated to the numbers that I indicated here, we're talking about over half million students have already been exposed to this stuff.

Means that we're buying success and momentum in an addition to the innovation.

So for US it was really a no brainer it was hand in glove with our with our strategy and we believe this is one of the key elements that will help us to return that business to.

To growth.

You did you did cover a lot of that but.

The flushing it out helps so thank you just switching gears education services.

Pretty good momentum, 9% organic growth to what extent does learning house, helping.

I hate to use the deltak.

Kind of legacy, but the legacy opium businesses find find their footing.

Maybe any color there and then just a glide path to stronger operating margins in the past we've talked about double digit.

As a goal.

Any any color in terms of timing when we might get to stronger operating margins for the segment would be helpful. Thank you.

You bet I'll address.

Both of those questions Brian .

From the perspective of what learning house brings to the table.

We found in learning House, a very complimentary company to our Wiley Education services, formerly as you point out called Deltak, a number of years ago.

We found a very complimentary company on a number of different levels. The first way that its complimentary is that it brings a different sort of school into the mix. It brings it has brought.

Smaller schools into the mix ones that really need us in order to succeed schools that can succeed without us and that balance of of smaller high quality, but smaller regional schools balances nicely with our more prominent larger schools.

That deltak.

Had had service and that Wiley education services services.

Now and so the portfolio is a very nice balance now that is unequaled in the marketplace. We have a full range of schools from big marquee schools down to small high quality.

Regional schools, and we feel that that is a that is a real strength. They are able to move quicker. They are able to work more closely with their partners and these partnerships are are very very sticky. So a portfolio b and I won't go into great detail, but each of the companies had strengths.

Strength in enrollment strengths and identification student's strengths in the design of programs strengths in the management of those programs strengthen relationships and and and the combination of the two was extremely complementary.

So that was great. We found two really good management teams and instead of taking one and getting rid of the other we blended the two to take the best of each so combined now we have an extremely strong.

Management team and I will I will.

Unabashedly said I think we have the best most solid operating management team in the industry. So that breadth of portfolio. The breadth of skills that are now threaded together.

Allows us to we think out compete anybody in the marketplace and provide and this is the final piece of the complementing portfolio a broad portfolio of services from one size fits all opn down to individual tailored services needed by specific schools at specific times, two additional certification and non traditional credentialing programs that the schools need in order to provide things like 18 computer skill computer training.

Computer technology training for for their students, which they are unable to do themselves. We can put those into lit, but those programs together and deliver to them. That's a very very powerful combination all of that leads to the answer to your second question, which is this integration.

Which we've been doing has allowed us to combine operations and gain scale and with that scale. We've allowed we've we've been able to gain efficiencies.

So so there are enormous number of benefits that we see both both strategically operationally and financially and in terms of the glide path we've said.

A number of times that we believe this business will be in in.

Mid double digit to upper mid double digit sort of margins John we specifically in our fiscal year 22 targets that we talked about on our last call. When we provided a view of where we see ourselves out as longer term, we specifically called out the education services, we're driving to be in the range of 15% EBITDA margin in the in the southern Europe in the third year out so and we're sticking to that that's what we believe we're going to be doing.

Very good appreciate the color I'll jump back of any follow ups.

Thank you Dan.

Thank you and our next question comes from the line of drew Crum with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Okay. Thanks, Hey, guys good morning.

So I think you suggested that the Ed publishing professional learning segment would grow with the inclusion of Newton by book.

For fiscal 20, if you back those out how are you thinking about the performance of the legacy business through the balance of the fiscal year, and I guess kind of drilling down a little bit deeper within that segment. The test prep business was down in the quarter, you've got some very difficult comparisons in the second half of the fiscal year.

But you suggested that the business would be up double digits can you just reconcile that or help us understand what the drivers are.

Thanks.

Sure. So so good morning.

First in terms of expectations, if you will for the base of the business.

For the balance of the year, our view for the year has been to see mid single digit decline in revenue and some substantial erosion of profit margin along with that during this transition period. So the performance in the first quarter is in line with our assessment. There. We still are anticipating mid single digit decline overall.

In the in the traditional businesses there.

But we do see on the back half of the year generally more strength as compared as compared to the prior year. We've got efforts underway to address our cost structure and we're going to see as you noted we're going to see some growth out of the businesses that we acquired so overall no big surprises.

Somewhat lower than expectations in the first quarter, but but nothing that materially changes our view around that for the year.

Test prep, we had a couple of things that hit us in the in the first quarter.

As Brian . So described we saw some softness in G. met frankly, a big part of that was that we.

Released a new addition in the fourth quarter, which saw very high demand. So that tends to have a bit of a trough than coming inside of the first quarter.

There are also some some softness in gms candidates.

But.

I expect some of that is going to work its way out over the over the balance of the year. So a bit of timing in general there around the New addition, released in the fourth quarter.

On the Cpis side, we ran into some challenges around pricing execution in ecommerce.

Weve addressed that demands picking up again in the in the month of August so.

We have a little bit of a bump in the road, but we believe that we are on track to hit our goals around Cps axle for the year as well.

Okay very good and then just shifting gears just drew if I could just to get to that.

To reiterate a comment that Brian made.

We do still anticipate solid double digit growth in test prep for the year, right, where I do anticipate with the acquisitions. As you noted that we will actually see for the year, albeit a bit of inorganic contribution we do expect to show revenue growth in this segment for the year.

And I'll, just just to add on the traditional publishing side of the business.

We we are seeing early indications of the strategy that we're putting in place playing out.

It takes a while for these things to play through in the marketplace, but we feel pretty good about our publishing program and what we're seeing from a.

From a momentum perspective, im not getting getting out in front and making big promises here, but.

But I think we're going to see that business continue to strengthen in the quarters and in the years to come.

That doesn't change our outlook or what we're saying.

But.

We can we can see inside the business and see what's happening in where we're positive about it.

Okay very good appreciate the color and then just maybe shifting gears to the gross margin line I know, it's a metric that you tend to focus on work but.

It was down 270 basis points in the quarter to 66%.

Your business over the last four or five years. This is a line that was consistently in the low seventys range. So I guess specific to fiscal one too.

Can you talk about what drove the lower gross margin.

And is that kind of indicative of what you've seen across the business. The last couple of years and I guess looking forward, where do you see gross margins settling out at.

So drew the single biggest factor in our gross margin is going to be the impact of our growth substantial growth in education services right, that's going to be a lower gross margin business at this stage in its development. So thats by far the most significant contributor we talked a few moments ago about our expectations for driving improvements in the EBITDA performance up to 15% EBITDA.

As a percent of revenue in fiscal 2002, so thats a key contributor then there was a bit of pressure in other parts of the business I would note we've been upfront about this that there is some.

Pressure on royalties in the research journal business were highly competitive and we've seen some pressure there we are managing our portfolio to optimize our spend on on royalties associated with journals and then I would say.

Consistent with what you've noted around some pressure on margin.

We're working really hard on what Weve referred to as business optimization initiatives, which really improve the speed and quality with which we get things done but the fundamental consequence of those things are that we're lowering costs to protect and improve our bottom line. So you can see a little bit of a rotation to see us drive some expenses below gross margin in order to balance it out overall, but we are still very much committed and confident in our ability to improve our overall operating margin over the planning period that we've talked about.

Okay very good very helpful. Appreciate it.

Thanks drew.

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And our next question comes from a lot of Nick Dempsey with Barclays. Your line is now.

Hi, Good morning, guys I've got two questions.

First of all spring in nature.

Excluding the nature titles is charging the same article pricing charge that you all as Paul said recently announced deal with problematic steel in Germany.

I imagine that spring in nature X nature has a much low impact factor than your full collection of potential site did they get a better deal in Germany that.

Second question with an education publishing.

I appreciate that it was down 10% constant currency I know, there's some small benefit some acquisition in there.

Are you able to tell us what the decline was.

Excluding those acquisition.

In the quarter.

Okay. So we'll take them in order I'll take the Springer nature question, Jon will take the AD pub declined question.

So look all these deals are different this deal hasn't been announced publicly it hasn't even been made publicly.

We did note with interest that they excluded the the nature titles, which is the pre eminent.

Brand in the industry it is.

Not surprising that Springer nature wanted to exclude them for the obvious reasons.

We don't and yes, you're right with some of your assertions about about impact factor, but each one of these deals is different we're going to study it in detail when it comes out we believe that that.

Any material improvement in terms will cascade for from our perspective will cascade through the market in the long run we're very pleased with the deal that we did we believe it's a sustainable deal. It sets a benchmark for an orderly transition for those parts of the world in those territories that can move in that direction.

We're very optimistic about it so I think we'll have more to comment on when we when they actually sign a deal and when we actually see the details but right now we were not at all just comforted by what we saw in the marketplace and and feel pretty good about the what it indicates for the future of the transition.

And then Nick to your question about education publishing down for the quarter, how much was that actually mitigated by the acquisitions that we made the the acquisitions were Newton as we discussed at the front end of the quarter and then cybex in the last month the quarter. So only one month of XY books in our results. The overall contribution to our performance in the quarter really not material on the order of $2 million to $3 million of revenue.

That's great. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you and that does conclude todays question and answer session I would now like to turn the call back to Mr. Nate.

For any further remarks.

Yeah, just I want to thank everyone for joining us on the call today, we're going to look forward to talking to some of you hopefully many of you in October at our Investor meeting and we look forward to presenting our second quarter results.

In December and until then.

We will we'll see you soon.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude todays program. You may all disconnect everyone have a great day.

Q1 2020 Earnings Call

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John Wiley & Sons

Earnings

Q1 2020 Earnings Call

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Thursday, September 5th, 2019 at 2:00 PM

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