Q1 2020 Earnings Call

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I'll now hand, the call over some Martin Lam Atlassians senior manager of Investor Relations.

Good afternoon, and welcome to a loss since first quarter fiscal 2020 earnings conference call on the call today, we about Watkins co founders and co Ceos, Scott for Park, and my kind of Brooks, Our Chief Financial Officer, James Beard, and our President Jay Simon earlier today, we issued a press release in a shareholder letter with our financial results and commentary for first.

Quarter fiscal 2020. These items were also posted on the Investor Relations section about Watkins website investors door locks and dot com.

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Did an investor Datasheet on our IR website, I will now turn the call over to Scott for opening remarks, before we move to queuing <unk>.

This quarter, we grew revenue by 36% year over year and generated more than $63.4 million or free cash flow.

We also added up to 7000 toughmet during the quarter and they'll have more than 159000 toughness in total.

This quarter, we introduced two important new additions about cloud offerings free and premium.

Disrupted business model continues to win new customers, both large and small and it new additions offer the more choice and capabilities.

We wanted to be easier and less costly for teams to get started in the cloud and grow with us that they need to change and become more complete.

Premium illustrates the increased sophistication of our enterprise cloud offerings, providing large companies the flexibility on the tools they need.

We're also excited to have the quad turned out to creator Automations and euro.

The buttons managing working workflows juries in unique position to help automating manual steps and wait for help people and teams advanced work more efficiently.

Automation is increasing parties like optimistic it helps them to foster and collaborate more effectively.

Well nations a jury is already used by thousands of teams and this is another important step as we continue to enhance our cloud products.

We provided more detail on these announcements along with many other updates now shareholder letter that was you should always die.

And with that all possible under the operator, so keep an eye.

Certainly to ask a question you will need to press star one on your telephone to withdraw your question press the pound for hash key again that is star one on your telephone to ask a question. Please standby, while we compiles QNX roster.

Your first question comes from the line up Heather Bellini with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you so much for taking the question I wanted to ask a little bit just because there's been some concern over the past few days about you know if if you start it started to see any change in the customer buying patterns right. I mean, I know you guys don't have a direct sales force but.

I know James this is obviously seeing different cycles from time to time being a different companies but.

Any sense that there's been any change in and the demand environment and then I had a follow up question. Just if you could share with us anything about a any potential impact you saw from the up from the price changes if there's a way to hope think about the the impact on the quarter or whether we should be thinking about it more similar to kind of the.

Fiscal year 18 price increase where the timing was more similar or is it potentially more like like last year as in terms of the the behavior in deferred revenue. Thank you.

Yeah, Let me start off with our ounces festival I wouldn't say, we've seen any material change in customer buying patents. Yeah. We've been pleased by the results. The overall strike the right across the product sets, a and out different deployment options. So no nothing but.

So real in that regard a reaction to price increase Jay do you want to start off about one on that I can come back on some of the timing items I think some whatever we've reported in the past it was a inline with expectation. So I think customers and part of part of that is just around the plane that we do that goes into the increases that we do community could communicate to come.

There isn't the way we communicate those price increases customer. So I think we're pleased with how it's been adopted.

Yeah and in terms of a the timing we announced a price increases.

At the start up this past September .

So couple of weeks earlier than was the case a year ago.

And so more in line with the timing of fiscal 18.

And so for that reason.

We expected a the that would be some additional customer activity.

In Q1 as that was in Q1 fiscal 18.

And that there would be potentially some of that leading over into Q2 as well again as there was in fiscal 18.

Great. Thank you so much.

Your next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz from Mizuho. Your line is open.

Okay. Thank you very much good afternoon, guys I found it interesting just one follow up to Heather's question that your EMEA revenue growth actually we accelerated this quarter just getting it given again some of the macro another concerned that we've all heard about is there anything that you would call out with respect to your out your strong execution in EMEA.

Hi, Thank you great for the question.

The cold or a a half of our partners Oh based in EMEA, we have over 500 partners around the world.

And they have tended to be quite active helping a that customers our customers step in front of the price increases we saw this I in the last couple of years.

And while.

That activity generally impacts our deferred revenue balances. There are you I think as we've discussed in the past a couple of revenue drivers there as well and so that is a part of what's driving those strong results both in may and in a pack as well.

Okay. That's really helpful. James Thanks, and then I'd just as a follow up you know I realize that were only one quarter of course into fiscal 20, but just relative to your prior guidance, but the cloud mix shift to cause I 100 basis point revenue headwind for the year have you seen anything at this point that perhaps might till two in one direction or another or do you still.

Yeah, that's probably the a the right landing spot for the cloud impact this year. Thank you.

Yeah, and I would continue to.

Say that that one point headwind to revenue growth year over year is what we're expecting a recall that there was three elements to that when we talked about at 90 days ago or the first the launch of free additions of Joseph were uncomfortable and the second thought that we would offer.

A free trials about cloud product to the user of a that same probably not behind the firewall.

And then the mix shift that you're referring to and the question.

And you know one of the other things to recall is the we just rolled out the free versions. Joseph were uncomfortable is just quite recently and so well continue to be if the view that that contra basis point headwind is the right way to think about those three issues combined.

Okay terrific, thanks very much.

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Weiss from Morgan Stanley . Your line is open.

Thank you guys for taking the call.

Taking the question and very nice quarter.

Two questions.

Well, one on sort of the new customer adds you guys have.

Binetti customers that are really nice clip.

So I really good growth in that net new customer adds this quarter, Oh, I thought that like 20% on a year on year basis anything in particular, driving that's kinda stronger new customer ads in Q1 and anything in that that wouldn't be repeatable for us for the year number one and a number two or another.

There are acquisition sort of going deeper into sort of the opportunity around here and some of that that core I T. A we haven't heard as much about the stuff outside of the I.T. Department give us nothing to kind of how we're thinking about the opportunity for fridge. Your outside of the T. Department and is the focus still there in the same way it had been historically in terms of expanding the use cases.

Outside of those core I to use cases.

Thank you Jay here I'll take the first part in the head off the Mark on the second one in terms of customer growth you know really contribution across the board from all the major products that are art contribute to new customer ads.

As we talked about last quarter or there is one component in there.

Related to the monetization improvements that we introduced the Trello around board limits for team usage and there is some you know some nascent pent up demand within the existing customer base, it's contributing to the number not in a materially outsized proportion, but it isn't there and that's maybe one component as we as we roll through a year.

Of of.

Those monetization improvements in the base that will moderate a little bit.

And just one thing to add ons to that briefly we continue to see more than 90% of those new customers going straight to our cloud services.

Mike.

Yeah Okay.

Look we are obviously continue to remain bullish and focused on the opportunities both inside and outside the <unk> preferred apartment <unk> you referenced the acquisition of card barrel. Obviously automation is an area that we already have a quarter quite a variety of offerings and I now in trouble a inox Ginnie and we had some automation.

Features and Jira service desk, this really lets us expand that automation offering across the whole jira platform. So when you talk about knowing our two teams where does that mainly exist. Obviously jira core just for a business work flow and process management at all sorts of levels. This automation fits directly inside of.

So I've got that sweet spot for companies that are modeling all sorts of processes on top of jure already this just give some extra extra super powers.

And then we didn't service desk. It's also incredibly important because service desk wallet. It continues to land very strongly in our team does expand very well outside of our t. to all sorts of other.

Flowed based teams within an organization bid and legal finance or.

HR workplace management any of these sorts of things that automation, obviously works very well in those areas as well obviously in this case automation doesn't affect travel conflicts or anything else, we sell outside of a business teams.

But from what am I should point of view, yes, a very very strong for the hold your platform both inside and outside our two and obviously for us the core of that business.

It's a it's a bunch of really kick <expletive> people the kind from Washington, Starwood. So you know, we know that people really well and I think it's going to work really well.

Thank you guys.

Okay.

Your next question comes from a line of our room Beato from William Blair. Your line is open.

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question maybe I just wanted to follow up on the on the acquisition that you were just talking about just to try to get a better understanding of how you might integrate this into jira and how you might monetize that I think it's I think I read that as largely sold through the marketplace today, but.

I can you maybe just walk us through how the monetization model might work is this something that you plan to introduce on <unk> on the premium products only or is this going to be.

Widely available across a across all Jira tears.

I read a Scott here.

We've had some successes, we probably butler and I did something similar where we had one of success.

Aging part of it in a premium, allowing part of it you now sort of standard offering to customers to get a taste of it and I need to be glad position I think we'll also have some existing customers, particularly around 60 companies in terms of transition period. So there's always to consider there, but we do think it will help bolster out.

Our premium offering over time and somebody out customers really interesting.

Great. Thanks, and then maybe on the freemium products that you launched their premium for where the free tier three jira and confluence.

Can you just give us a sense of what you're seeing from customers in the initial phases of this launch I know, it's still early but are you seeing a big uptick of new customers coming in a into that frees here and maybe on the other side what are you seeing.

From existing customers that used to be paying but might have a might have moving down to the to the free tier.

Thank you.

Ah, yes, like will if I think about L. Disrupting our out disruptive model over the years like we've always tried to.

Make sure I products are accessible for every size company.

Just to start ups is coming out of a university people to starting with two at the three dozen organization all the way out to people to use all things. We had 30000 50000 people understand that gamut and that we've always had a pricing to appeal to that Oh go back 20 years. When we started a I'm going to fortune 500 critical in software and we probably need the model them.

Software affordable to <unk> companies of all sizes have you got we don't would free and premium its continue.

To improve getting the crowd and a premium side, it's making sure our largest customers have the features that I need.

To continue their expansion in the cloud or two new there you know on premises deployments to the cloud and on the free side of things. It's a route to make sure again those companies who did not only charge couple of calls a month or.

The value of a credit card if we can remove that we believe there will be large increasing the funnel there.

On the free and used to be the question was how much it's a up in the final I'm not positioned it sort of told through that a deployment and as I bought from signed that we are pleased by the results internally and how that is going.

And but it's still early days and we'd want to we could some of those things from cold winter long period of time to make sure that it really helped with but irrespective of I guess would be shorten benefit. The long term benefit is ensuring that every single company of every size can utilize these products.

And Jason.

What I was mentioning earlier about that.

Back to free being embedded within that one point headwind to our revenue growth rate in fytwenty.

Thanks James.

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Turits with Raymond James Your line is open.

Hi, This is actually Robert Magic on for Michael So it sounds like ops Genie is doing really well as part of the at last and family can you just give us some more color there. The changes you've made that led to an accelerated growth rate and maybe more broadly. If you can just talk more about the long term opportunity for that asset.

Michael It's Scott here again, we're lucky we thought about the outstanding acquisition, we just actually at a party analysis to celebrate one you're closing off nine so I'd describe it seems oh it going yesterday.

Yeah, I wish is doing really well inside at Washington.

And if you were going to Spice the incident management companies around the world I'm struggling to how do they release software I got to foster price, how do I keep on the good competitors and using hold moving around things like Devops and I'd be part of that is making sure that when incident happened as I say naturally do that people can respond quickly.

You didn't have the right people available and that's one opportunity does now opportunity. We've been pleased with some of the integration that we've done on the product side to be identity side on the user on spice side, but I still think we'd have a what an opportunity to add to that.

The guys products together, because we don't large existing base, we have seen a doubling of the rights of paid seats. Since we acquired the company I think we propose NFL and so on and that's a big right and I was hoping maybe one way to go in terms of.

Using our existing customers to the opportunity product.

Appreciate it.

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Kurtz with Keybanc capital markets. Your line is open.

Yeah. Thanks, I just wanted to follow up on that thread just in your shareholder letter talking about the free tier doubling the pace of growth for troughs Janie from a user perspective.

Well when you see that kinda result.

Is that how you might think about.

Future M&A that you can really accelerate a product in market, where maybe as a standalone entity as a company just can't get to that kind of growth rate that might change. How you think about future M&A or where do you think that was really specific to the market set up Genie ops Genie served.

The question is when you see that impact.

You think you guys might want to be a little bit more aggressive and on it and Oh, sorry, and then M&A.

I'll take that it's got here in my comment when I'd, probably at the end.

When we think about M&A, we think a couple of things firstly, it's got to be ready culture fit for the company. That's first and foremost it's very hard to change culture.

Second it has to be a mission fits on my point acquiring companies a dime.

Got mission, which is done at least the potential of everything I said is a business model fit and it's more difficult like not impossible to change the company's business model to take it from.

What is volume high priced too high volume what price for example, we the digital thing and then I'll be considered technical one other other things and so we do find companies that align with al you know I mission.

With our culture, and we got business model, we will consider them out and we do believe that out basis 159000 customers and millions of teams around the world you something where you know they're interested in other products that we can bring to market for them, both acquisitions and new products that will develop organically.

So any opportunities really watch and we're not about kind of acquiring stuff for revenue cycle is one of things that we could you know just random these introduce into our customer base that may bring short term revenue, but dumping as close to draw mission and we want to be very disciplined about not going out to those types of opportunities.

Right. Thank you.

Yeah, I would just had one one small thing obviously we.

You've seen us make a series of changes in Australia, and it's obviously were.

Sure and pleased about how its going I do believe companies have a day in <unk>, we obviously have a long term philosophy.

D. and I have having a long term philosophy, and making changes that have patience over the long term as Scott mentioned hundred 59000 customers. We have a massive distribution engine for software, but you still have to have fantastic applications with you know really great feature sets Austin. He has has the best features in the market and we haven't ability to put a disruptive price against it to really.

Make a huge then I think that fits out there and I in a really really good wise. So so part of the reason weve been so excited about the team since since that come on board and we're starting to see some some pretty great results I'm, taking our model off against.

A big Enterprise software is something that we've worked very familiar we're doing have almost 20 years now history of a success in doing so and intend to continue though.

Your next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood with Cowen and company. Your line is open.

Great Thanks, and nice job on the quarter I wanted to touch on you know what you're seeing in terms of rate right of activity from customers moving from server to either data center or cloud and I guess on cloud specifically you now that you've got cloud premium out I know, it's still very early but I mean as you look over the next 12 to 24.

Do you see migration being more gradual is enterprise is slowly get more comfortable or do you see perhaps more of a hot hockey shape.

Just with more accepted to cloud and and the advanced but you're making with your premium skill.

Hey, there Jay here are we talked a little bit about this in the last call. I mean, you know, we're seeing increasing interest in.

Cloud generally, but also in cloud from our server customer base and so part of what Weve invested you. We made big investments immigration tooling just to make that process simple, we made some pricing calibration adjustments to make it easier for customers to move and then you know we're working a lot more closely with customers and make sure that that the planning that move in the implementation that moved this news.

I think and just in terms of the the demand environment you know, it's increasing at a steady click and I think what what we what we signaled last quarter is just a the investments that we've made over the past year in just the readiness to make sure that when customers do you want to move because it is both a you know in some cases, it's a replatforming it saying I'm going to take an instance.

But you know I have three or four or five years of history with and I want to move that smoothly to you know from infrastructure that I'm hosting in managing to infrastructure that I no longer have to manage because Atlassian can do a better job of it for me.

And then data center you know is is a little bit of a a different I'm not even a migration pattern, it's basically uh huh.

An upscale from a standard version of server on Prem to a you know a high availability instance of the on Prem infrastructure and that's still a notion that really really large customers are choosing which is fine because we're celebrating the customers choice to either remain on prime or go to cloud if they want to just a couple of things to emphasize what Jay.

He was saying that we're obviously very pleased with the rate of growth of our subscription business, which encapsulates both cloud and data center business. So that grew up 50% in in Q1.

Then you mentioned the potential effects of cloud premium.

As I've said in the past I wouldn't expect a cloud a premium offerings for JSW and an confluence to drive a material revenue effect in F. White 20, I think we see the benefits of that downstream.

Got it okay. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Nikolai Beloff with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Hi, Thanks for taking my question just a follow up on the last question you've put in place a channel incentive.

While the consensus pricing incentive to steer the sort of our customer base to that to the cloud version do you envision this being I didn't elect to for the year process or five six year kinda like transition of W. Debate and the 400 million dollar work of maintenance to the cloud.

I mean, its transition will will happen over years and it'll be gradual.

Okay and James' question for you you raised the revenue guidance with a year in line with the Q1 beat I'm just wondering what kind of puts and takes you can see that inc. off with the rest of the year as you provided a the updated guidance would here. Thank you.

Yeah, well yeah. This is the the midpoint of our original guide 90 days ago Weve, obviously raised beyond the Q1 beat a quite substantially.

And this reflects our ongoing confidence a a as I said right at the outset will the coal across the products and across the deployment options.

So really that's a that's the logic behind the moves that we've made today on the guide.

Got it thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Gray Powell from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks for taking the question.

Yes. So you on an absolute dollar basis, you added more revenue to the subscription line than any prior quarter ever I I know, you're not going to give exact numbers, but maybe like maybe broadly speaking how much of that is being driven by driven by just normal demand versus customers shifting from server to club.

Well I I would say that the the gradual seventh the cloud transition a is building momentum, but what I really would say when you think about that subscription growth rate. It. It just represents the underlying strengths of both the cloud business.

And the data center business.

So we're pleased by how both of those business lines, a growing very substantially.

Got it thanks.

Your next question comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Hi, This is love soda on for brand to congrats again on a strong quarter.

I had a couple of questions. One was given the impressive eat up a subscription yearoveryear growth rate of 50% this quarter.

I know last quarter, you guys mentioned that you you would hit do you know grew over 40% year over year for subscription.

So is there any update to that and then the second question was really that this is the first time you guys have done price increases on the data center product. So has there been any initial reaction to that then it from customers. If you have seen that.

Yes, So let me take the first part of that so in terms of the subscription business, we guided to the outside of the year that we thought we could be 40% growth year over year. Obviously, a the Q1 results is a very nice down payments if you will.

On achieving that objective so nothing to update around that.

At this time.

In terms of the price increase activity around data center customers Jay would you want to take that one yeah no. It it fine reaction I mean, the price increase a data center was super nominal as you mentioned a it was the first adjustment we made a data center pricing since introducing it four years ago.

Great. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Jack Andrews with Needham Your line is open.

Oh good afternoon, thanks for taking the question I.

I was wondering you could speak about the broader demand trends and competitive landscape as it relates to trello. It seems like in this broader collaborations space more companies are increasing some focus and investments. There. So I was wondering are you seeing any sort of inflection in the demand for more general collaboration tools.

Yeah could I might look.

I would say more general collaborations will continue to be something as.

That grows as a business evolves right people are getting more comfortable with using these types of tools you have obviously people joining the workforce, who are incredibly comfortable with with mobile base calibration absent things like that but nothing unusual in the last quarter over a general a shift towards collaborative tools both in as we would say in.

Specific demand so I would argue that your our confluence other tools we have are actually.

Martin collaboration tools that all of the model a collaboration features for my team worked platform, but focus on specific domains, whether it be project management.

For management or document collaboration, but nothing nothing, particularly changing other than a general movement. A you know direction, which is which is obviously, where we intend to be.

Great. Thank you.

Again, if he would like to ask a question press Star one on your telephone. Your next question comes from the line or freesheet jewelry with D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. That's it thanks for taking my questions on two here first on on Trello. I mean are now just 50 million users.

Can you maybe help us understand if that's you know you seem pretty good attraction in specific industries lines of business within organizations specific geography.

And alongside that on the monetization side I know you introduce board limits relatively recently and that seems to be helping that maybe help us understand what the patent monetization.

For for Trello looks like going forward and then on the automation for each year at the acquisition. There maybe just help us understand that the technology a little batteries is similar to the Butler acquisition for Trello or or is just you know more robust maybe even slightly similar to an RFP a offering thanks.

Rishi I'll certainly take the first up there I guess I could think they're going up to look on trello.

We continue to be extremely positive as a as we said in the in the shareholder letter we pass 50 million registered users this quarter I'm, which as you know again, a huge jump on last year and continues to power long really nicely. So as we say pretty much every quarter that you guys. The first goal is to continue trailer growing to what's going on I think we've we sort.

Ticking up all can continue to travel well there.

Those those users are all across the globe, it's a very global phenomenon.

It's an application of works you know as well in Android in Brazil is a dozen iOS in America or on a on a desktop in Australia. So as in terms of a global application.

It is very very large and I think we were showing in the numbers that we can continue to grow very strongly we are as you mentioned starting to monetize a mourn the loss or sort of six to 12 months I'm, saying good good traction happening there.

Just in terms of managing how we separated between free and paid offerings. You mentioned board limits a few other small tweaks and changes we've made to monetization and pricing I would just say again that comes from my sort of long term patient philosophy as a company and I didn't I have having being very very expert at how we optimize price.

Thing for different customer groups in customer segments, and make sure that that that drives firstly drugs and then second value to atlassians. After we do have a value to our customers and Trello is no different there I'm. The only difference withdraw I'd point out as we still not.

Activity Cross flowing uses to other at last seen properties yet it's its on the list, we'll get there, but we're not a were not actively today or the other two parties are taking taking more than shorter.

I guess I can take the automation for zero look and technologically I'm not sure what depth you wouldn't want answers that question. It's similar to two Butler in some ways in terms of how I guess it works is an automation, obviously built completely differently inside of the Jira stack, it's a very different world its up for that for the.

Basics of things like happy I assure you could you could use it to automate some of this but it's not.

I wouldn't say, it's a competitive to up yet tools in that way, it's more about automating a I guess repetitive tasks that.

You don't necessarily need to do so I've given the example of our legal team uses service desperate heavily to managing coming contracts and moving around.

I can look for missing fields missing data all the things that would need and bounce at strike automatically back to the use that to get more information on what to move it's an extension to work flow without you know one of our very expert lawyers would the illegal to raise having to spend time moving tickets around which they shouldn't have to do it right. They want to focus on high value work that leverage.

As the skills and automation, just let's just take that to a millions and millions the jury's is around the world. So I think we're incredibly positive about the impact again huh.

Alright, great. That's helpful. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Georgia lineup with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Thank you for taking my question. So that just another one on a code barrels from an expense perspective.

His acquisition pulling forward some expenses.

Kind of embedded with maintaining the operating margin guidance.

Yeah that George we've embedded all of that within the guidance.

That's right.

Yeah are you look silly accelerating investment in other areas internally as well.

Well I wouldn't point to any particular acceleration driven by the acquisition per se. Obviously, we're very pleased to be adding the co barrel team and up.

As I say, we we cater to.

Each of the effects there within the Guy that we've issued.

Okay, and not just broadly speaking I'm on the ITC side.

Has the competitive.

Dynamics changed at all with you know that the ramp of juror Jira service desk and opportunity and all the other efforts such are doing focused right there.

Yeah, Scott here, they're competitive dynamics I don't think of change significantly over the last couple quarters, we feel.

Increasingly confident about our position.

The.

As we sort of mentioned before Oh, I see in software and become increasingly closer together and that's an area that we have a real strong market position given we have a large number of software developers and and tools and products to help them be productive and as those teams worked closely together they wouldnt have ones back to pull those things.

Together, sorry, I'm from that we feel like it's increasingly confident that al position in the market.

Other people out there on these any major changes in the competitive dynamic.

Okay. Thank you.

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There are no further questions at this time I will turn the call back over to the presenters.

Thanks, everyone for joining the call today from a market Scott density James and <unk> up in San Francisco. We appreciate your time very much and I look forward to keeping you updated on our progress as we travel into the future. Thank you.

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