Q3 2019 Earnings Call
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Thank you Julianne good morning, everyone and thanks for participating in our third quarter 2019 results Conference call. This is <unk> S.P.P., a corporate development and Investor Relations speaking presenting to this morning or his younger we serve rocks presidents and C.E.O. and David Smells Executive Vice President and Seattle.
Our earnings announcement was released yesterday evening, and we have posted a slide presentation on the investing section of our website, which we will refer to during this call.
In our comments, we will be glad to take questions from analysts.
As noted on slide two of the presentation listeners I reminded that the information we are sharing with you. Today includes forward looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties. All the way gone believes that the expectations reflected in these statements are reasonable we can give no assurance that these expectations will prove to be correct.
I will now turn the call over to David.
Thank you out him and good morning, everyone before addressing a quarterly results last night eight color names, we see a regulatory approval.
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Presenting approximately 10% of eight comes public flow.
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Oh that touch briefly all they call. This consolidate results and they review results by segments before turning the call over to join Louise.
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Revenue for the three months ended September 32000 in 19 of $1 billion, which 6 million or 1% hi, compared to the same period into says an 18.
Well the light for like basis, excluding the contract mining business sold in November 2018 revenue was 70% higher in the core too.
Well I fall outlines the impact told results of disabled the contract money business.
It just it either die after the third call to $91.1 million, a margin of 8.9% increase by 2% compared to just to eat with John 89.5 million marching of 8.8% the same period last year.
It just it even down to like for like basis increased by 11% to record too.
Said call to operating profit $58.8 million increased by 5% compared to the criteria to 56.2 million.
<unk> share 60 cents, we didn't change compared to the suit cool to have 2018.
Report backlog at the end of the cool to have $6.6 billion compared to the backlog of $7 billion you really.
Yeah, I'm sitting two results by segments.
You don't fight fight constriction revenue of $1 billion invested quota.
7 billion or 1% higher than the same period last year.
This increase was driven by higher revenue in civil operations and it had been transportation systems in both eastern and Western Canada.
Revenues also highest from nuclear operations related to refurbishment work in Ontario.
He's increases what partially upset by lower revenue in the conventional industrial sector. Following the sale of the contract mining business in November last year, and any utilities sector from reduced mainline pipeline volume.
It just it even though I really constriction segment of 73.1 million and budget of 7.3%.
Decreased by 3.4 million compared to $76.5 million.
Watching them, 7.7% in 2018.
This was due to the sailor the contract mining business, which contributed to just C.D., but dogs 7.3 million in the too cool to 2018.
You contract toward to 798 million in the third quarter significantly lower than the same period last year is too large projects. The goatee have international bridge insects, you wanted the Gardner expressway rehabilitation rewarded with food cool to 2018.
Construction backlog at the end of September was $6.5 billion, which is 475 million lower than the same time last year.
Turning just like six.
<unk> revenue for the food court to $62 million, a decrease of 9 million or 15% compared to the same period last year, primarily as a result of lower construction activity related to the new airport too in Bermuda.
It just it even during the concessions segment at $25.2 million.
Just by 2.2 million compared to $23 million in the same period last year.
Increase was primarily due to a high contribution from management in development fees in the cool to relate to to Canadian concessions.
At this point out to Nicole over to your movie.
Thank you David.
Turning now to slide seven.
Acorn diverse and resilient <unk> well positioned to Denver continue to strong and stay better results.
It was that construction segment to either line to the significant infrastructure investment commitments by all levels of government across Canada, as well as bite the private sector.
That's the concessions.
He is actively pursuing a number of large scale infrastructure projects and that'd be quite private finance solutions and potty. She baking other concessionaire on the five p. three projects identified on the slightest.
Turning now to slide eight as David mentioned earlier backlog at the end of the quota Wolf 6.6 billion.
Back talked to be worked off in the next 12 month or 2.5 billion increase.
444 million overlapped yeah.
Over 60% of back logging for wood Oh beyond the next 12 month.
Providing significant visibility in stability to acorns longer Tim outbreak.
Training 12 months recurring revenue was a 3% on my like for like basis of a loft yeah respecting the significant ongoing revenue from recording work and the long term agreements and confession agreements.
We remain a very focused on the strong execution of our backlog, while ensuring we continue to build capacity and flexibility for further growth.
<unk> now to slide nine and 10, eight calls balance sheet and find it should capacity.
Remained <unk> advantages in our ability to grow into common good ball team, Canada, I don't select international projects.
Turning now to slide 11 hour overall outlook full to solve a 19 remains fully although what Karen strong backlog robust pipeline of <unk>, she's an ongoing confessions.
Expected to lead to improve that like for like reserved compared to 2018.
Acorn expects to have another strong get off <unk> ask construction continues on a number of preview <unk> projects that I've ramped up during the year to solving 19.
In the construction segment, beating activity continues to be solita with many of the company's larger plus we expect it to be a walden into solving 20.
We have strong and divers backlog in hand a.
Hey, Connie focused on continuing to pursue a balanced portfolio work and on ensuring solid execution on all of our projects.
Our D.C. pine that beating approach supports an expectation of continue like full like margin improvement segment.
It's a confessions segment continues to pop no. We've eight <unk> construction segment to focus on the significant number of peace we opportunity in Canada.
<unk> on a selected basis internationally.
As a witness preparations for a smooth transition from existing who's a new terminal in Bermuda into solving 20.
Thank you.
We will now turns a quarter over to at least four questions.
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Yeah of course, partially comes from your link from can't According to nobody Yeah line is open.
Hey, good morning.
Are you are <unk>.
Maybe for David Cannes, Good quarter by the way, but.
Basically a big investment in in working <unk>.
Can you just comment on the the increase in your in your Dsos in in your your days of web outstanding in the context of of how your projects are are progressing and how you're you feel your execution is so far.
Yeah. So.
I mean, obviously, we see a seasonal build in working capital through cute too cute three and we had oh see significant volume two three.
This year last year that seasonality was messed a little bit by the fact, we'd we'd have to be awarded the number of projects isn't that cute three phase, where we go big advance payments that kind of upset that the normal seasonal fee. So it's what we.
Typically see I would say.
This year just from a pure timing perspective, we have some significant maims coming right. After the court your end.
And so if you would normally expect to see into four with with <unk> working capital. We think that trend. Obviously continues this year probably.
A little bit more than in previous pull school twos, because just because some of the timing between the end of cute where your daily Q4. So.
Nothing other than kind of the normal seasonality with if you if you timing issues right into the core too.
Okay.
And for for 19 as a whole do you think that that reversal can get you.
You know what would we be get back to break even on on working cop or should we expect an investment this year.
I think overall it would be a small investment I mean overall you know I think the way we're trendy go revenue for the full yeah. Another trailing 12 month basis, He's he's obviously girls who revenue overall.
And so that will that will be a fight too.
And that the nature of some of the ins and aims some to milestones on these big projects can can swing it kind of course, it's cool to so certainly by the time, we hit the end of two one it will fully reversed by the end of Q4, I still think might be a slight investment on the on the full year.
Basis.
Okay.
Secondly, can you just give us some more color on.
What we should expect for for cutbacks in 2020, you mentioned in the in the outlook section.
Plans to build a an asphalt plants.
In Western Canada is that part of the the yellow line J.V. and.
What's what's that going to cost thanks.
Yeah, no. It's a smell part of a yellow line the the the reference to the asphalt plan to use for 2019.
In terms of end up taking taxi 19, because he's 18, so that won't go into 2020 2020, we expect cap x. to be to be load in 2019, 2019 will probably be.
Yeah, if you look at a history, assuming an elevated level of Catholics.
And it would to invite to kind of more normal levels. In 2020. So I think 2020, you'll be somewhat similar to to 18, we'd we'd 19 <unk>.
Okay. Thanks, I'll turn it over.
Yeah next question cuts on.
Sunday shopping capital markets seal and it's open.
Yeah, good morning jumped lemon.
Did I was wondering orange on we've you could talk a little bit you you talk about the international. Unfortunately. These I was wondering if you was if you were referring more for construction or concession and as the Bermuda construction activities are rent winding down I wasn't one.
During if there's any color you could provide related to the timing to.
Due to to to bring it up dirt concession. Unfortunately, he and if there's any color about the the timing on that thanks.
Okay. We are looking for boss opportunities means that concession sector and the construction sector.
<unk> replicating project like <unk>, that'd be we'd be quite an interesting seat.
The company, we a small development team working <unk> ER opportunity and when we find that was a good opportunities. I mean, we are we are able to focus on that on them and to and to go forward.
Okay, Okay perfect.
<unk> with respect to the the D.N.C. idea was just curious to have your thoughts or a reason beyond the lunch I assume that it was valuation driven it is there a kind.
What you can provide in terms of color, which respects see if we should expect it come to be active with respect to your and C.I.B.
Yeah, I mean, I I think I will depend on have things play out over over the next 12 months I think the.
The thought process is that.
Despite you know fairly consistent track record over the last little while.
Good execution, the ship price to seemed a little bit a disconnect in terms of.
Industry issues elsewhere in so yeah, we just want the flexibility to be able to.
Use any opportunities to.
Yeah.
Capitalize on that disconnect I guess, so we'll see how things play out we've got no set.
Minimum so a maximum.
In mind, we'll just play as we see over the cost of the next 12 months.
Okay, and Shawn we for the international Importunate. These on the construction front would it be fair to say, it's more <unk> focus a rather than a global basis.
It can be balls, obviously, we're looking at Q.S. as I've always saying the previous school I mean prudently.
<unk>, he's a major markets, which will probably and go through an acquisition.
We are contemplating I mean every every month.
He was football too many keys and and if we find a good <unk>, we wouldn't be ready to save it.
And all the global International I mean, it's it's more about a Caribbean no maybe South America in terms of construction on selecting topics well we all.
Performing well at home.
Okay. Okay, that's great color and last question for me when we look at the the the the the pricing order contract now that there are some players that are exiting the lump sum project I was wondering if you could talk about the the overall pricing environment winter we we.
We should expect more favorable pricing environment, given it seems that the the the risks will shift differently than it used to be in the past and also I've seen that Ontario launch launches a new procurement model with Union station R.S.Q.L. was wondering if yeah.
Is there any implication for you guys in terms of what you're seeing in terms of the shape yeah.
Yes, we we are extremely discipline and you got probably not tested.
On out with the sweets.
And on the way we price.
I would they.
<unk> not to be bulimic as you as you just fade I mean, there's a lot of opportunities.
And we just asked to carefully select and focus on our targeted opportunities that he best result, what capacity.
And and this is very important so.
The fact that some play use.
Leadership feedback from <unk>.
Infrastructure projects.
Just.
Makes is a competitive situation a little better but competition 15 existing yeah.
Hmm.
Okay. Thank you very much harder time to implement.
So.
You're not question comes from the fact that fast yeah from Raymond James Carolina's Okay.
<unk>, maybe just spilled on a button was x. question.
With respect to Ontario, obviously, the sector as experience a bit about law. This year in terms of new could cook procurement.
Are you seeing any changes heading into 2020.
We see that there's a lot of project called me.
Just a time for the new government over the <unk> too I, usually make an all Beatles what pulled on the table.
And then to assess and then two two d. finds out own priorities I mean, it'd been a conference.
Two months ago with an extremely important program off.
Infrastructure in in in in Ontario, mainly and mass transit, but also we could see some of their roles in breach job. So I'm not that much worried <unk>.
Ontario, I mean, he's a he's active.
We're also said population is stronger.
We just things that or does it need to a good pipeline for infrastructure projects, where we all.
Okay, maybe moving to a a national scale, obviously, a cons operated through various forms of government.
Over its long history, what do you make up the next couple of years in terms of opportunities in a minority Liberal government.
Can you repeat the question <unk>.
Yes.
Work through various forms of government over your 50 years of history. Just wondering you know what you kind of make up the opportunities going forward in <unk> minority Liberal government do you do you expect.
Priorities.
Towards infrastructure spending to shift materially or is it business as usual from your perspective.
I would say business have as usual I mean in Acorn, we we don't make the politics, where we are building.
And the main driver is about.
The growth of the population population needs, a mass transit and need to multiple way.
Need a water treatment plant need a power supply you.
And all is all you you have my cross hikers depending on on only take care of Psychos at the end of the day, we just see that the opportunities all that because the needs all that and and the politicians all available to serve the citizens of this country. So we we all know.
That much worried.
With a minority on it.
I think soundly.
Your next question question comes from take about from T.I.B.C. Your line is okay.
So so another strong a quarter of here, we think about the fourth quarter, it's gonna be similar to what we saw over the past couple of quarters or or should we be thinking about kind of.
Quarter after back in your contract money.
Right.
Yeah.
So obviously, we'll we'll see the normal seasonality I think.
When we talked a call to go we talk to context to the second half of the year and a few of the second half relative to the second off to watch T. I would say that view hasn't hasn't really changed. We we said said then the second half of the year last year's Com.
Still a case going into queue for.
Yeah, we had.
Upon the concession side to which we would normally expect to see.
Season lease <unk>, because there's less traffic true Bermuda I saw the higher the tourism season, but that was more than offset in the concession segment in Q4 the last year by some onetime development and success fees relate to the new projects we've been awarded.
So I decided that concessions noise, yeah, I mean, a similar queue for this year to to last year.
<unk> being being a good cool too.
And then your thoughts on on March an expansion going into 2020.
How should we be thinking about.
Some of these projects wrapping.
So it's true that most of the is it projects with being awarded in 2018.
Finalizing their engineering Faiza.
So and also some of the early works. So we are now ramping up a whole construction as you know.
I already construction.
On the open yeah, so as every seasonality about when Ted but definitely.
2020, which <unk> major project wanting to solving 18.
Beginning that's 12 phase of execution, yes.
What do you targeting right now for for margins.
We we don't give even though marching targets Jacobs. So we consistent message is being we expect to see.
Margins steadily over time improve based on the nature of a backlog and the environment, where we're bidding and right now in the types of projects were pursuing but we don't put a specific marching guidance to them. Okay.
Thank you.
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Your next question comes from Chris Murray Some Altacorp. Your line is out then.
Good morning gentleman.
Just I.
I guess turning back to the concessions segment for better.
You don't feel moving parts here, Dave you're thinking thanks for calling out you know queue for me you've had some one time items in there, but how do we think about.
I guess two two pieces of this.
Maybe even a generation from the business I expected revenue crop next year, just <unk>, you'll finish the construction in Bermuda, but how do we think about this segment going forward and then a second part of this question.
Then you you look at one of the concessions now now you're you're moving into that operation side has to go forward another 2020 and into in into the next decade, what are your thoughts around.
Asset recycling is what basically selling the constructions that you've got up muttered as you move on to other new constructions.
Yeah. So to the first piece of that question. If you look I've concession segment overrule we have a few.
Ins and outs over the next little while we have some of the Canadian concessions.
Coming on stream over the next couple of years.
And we have Bermuda from operations perspective relatively stable you know, it's moving from an existing to move to new terminal some some upside potential in terms of.
From the operation, which will will grow over time, but but nothing dramatic in 2020, when we switched to a mills. So overall, you're you're right revenue will come down a little bit is a construction wines damn good the construction martinis all in the construction segment.
The impact of that on <unk> is relatively small.
And so overall concessions there'll be a fairly stable business over the next couple of years from an innings perspective, certainly need but job perspective.
Growing but growing modestly until we Canadian concessions really kicking but that's still a still a few years away. It was still heavily into the construction site cool knows so no no dramatic changes in the concessions profile from an innings perspective over the next kind of 12 to 20.
<unk>.
Okay.
And then the concept of starting to think about recycling some of these assets when sir.
Yeah, I mean, I think we've taken the approach certainly a weird Bermuda that we will.
Look at that that <unk> value proposition overtime, we certainly don't feel any pressure to.
I vested interest in Bermuda, we think that say a attractive long to them opportunity.
That we.
Well potentially you want to stay involved in we have the option to sell a piece potentially.
Where 100% that operation today, but.
That will be purely value driven and we'll kind of look at that as we go.
As we go forward, but obviously I focus right now he's finishing constriction gang operations ramped up to the new new terminal.
And I wouldn't expect anything imminent game in Bermuda.
As far as a Canadian ones.
Again, no pressure to do anything with those we will get them Bill and upper running from operations perspective.
And we'll see we'll we'll see in the future who.
<unk>. This point you know a mindset is we you know we'll want to them operators of these assets to the to the extent that there's no more interesting opportune together.
And then just one other question. So I think last quarter you talked about the fact that you were expecting to start construction of the came much pipeline. Just just you know any update you can give us on that and then certainly you know there's been some commentary from the from the new Federal government that you know they want to get a bell 10, it feels like they want to get a belt.
Right away.
So I guess two parts that so first of all the update but second.
Oh can you accelerate your activity on that.
On that project if needed.
Well I stated by the Prime Minister you're right I mean, the involving many seasons call me too.
To take the kids these pipeline I remind you that we have been awarded <unk>.
We have had just kicked off the spread number <unk>, it's about installation and early works we're only.
At the moment.
And in terms of acceleration I mean that we do other depend on the noughties to proceed.
From the owner and but we <unk>, we have the capacity to do it in addition to their job we have already been awarded.
On pollster pipeline. So we are we ready to do it then.
Yeah, that's good because it's like it's one of our core competency, where we have just proven we can be extremely efficient.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from maximum cap from National Bank Financial your mind is helping.
Good morning.
<unk>.
You may be question for you as you talk about you know contemplating that strategy around the the U.S. expansion given some of the very difficult execution issues that like a lot of peers faced on the west.
How do you think about.
Diligence risk assessment on anything that you guys are kind of looking at right now potentially thank you.
So.
Maybe the first part of other question about.
U.S. expansion.
I've I've always say we.
<unk> market. So it seems good to have a look at its who.
An acquisition.
We I I've been Mormon contemplating and every month.
Some opportunities that we <unk> and we have a team.
Talk to lead to D.K.T., two due diligence solo examination no totally accountability activities of the backlog of the relation with clients with a trade unions. So I, yes, it's important for US there is no rush I've always said, it's a problem off <unk>.
T and I they sit at the beginning of the school, we we're not going to be bulimic.
We we just.
Want to be extremely serious kind of focused.
On you were wolves own you acquisitions.
Right. Okay. So that's that's very helpful. And then David if if I may given the fact that as I think generally we was talking about the staging off the major projects that were one in 2018, I really gonna be ramping up in a in 2020 from a construction revenue generation perspective, so should we.
Aspect pick up in terms of revenue generation you on here in 2020 versus 19 or can you help us out a little bit there.
On construct yeah, yeah, no I think I think it's fair to say, we expect to see revenue growth in 2020.
On the back of.
Just see I mean, if you look at the back off position today in the next 12 months worth of backlog overseas.
Same position 12 months ago, it's it's called up significantly so that feeds the the revenue for 2020 and so.
Yeah, I mean, it's a it's fair to say, we expect to see a solid growth in 2020.
Okay. That's very helpful. That's it for me thank you very much.
Thanks.
Yeah next question comes from my laptop home from P.D. Security you've got line is okay.
Thank you.
Someone to that last question.
You've talked about beating activity continuing to be to be pretty solid.
And the prospect of some awards coming through in 2020 based on on the bidding opportunities that you're pushing right now.
Do you see that possibly leading to.
A step function change in backlog somewhere to what you saw in 18, assuming you when your fair share of awards or is this going to be more of a situation whereby.
And it should simply it'd be kind of replenishing the back on that you work off.
Mmm.
So first point as you probably a record from the last quarter.
I've always say that we we are comfortable with a backlog between six and 7 billion.
And we have an amount of around 60% to be executing to off to up to 12, Mscs exactly where we all today, so I'm paying a lot of attention.
On developing a diverse and balance.
<unk>, we we have a small project just remind use that for example of.
Even more than 500 projects executive by Acorn audio future $15 million encountered revenue, we have medium projects and we have big project, we ask construction projects and concession projects, we work in a in deceiving.
We work in urban transportation, we work in industrial I also want to be balancing industrial between nuclear utilities Convention <unk> industrial we also need to need to be balance between west and East, Canada and this or this makes <unk>.
Stronger and a lot of attention about it so they they should not be a different or shift in our backlog of we are we are looking at these diversity T.N.
Balance and this is exactly what has happened during the last month I mean to solve an 18.
Being quite a a strong gears in in terms of Big Awards.
And as you as you a scene I mean, we we haven't taken that let feel bigger Walgreens allows 14 months I mean, it was only the high wasteful one.
<unk> 600, and we feel have a a 6.6 billion backed logo all we have executed or something like three point screen <unk> activity. During the last week long. So we are perfectly in line no. We thought was a strategy.
Oh, DCIP line, and and and focusing on what we think we do better than the other competitors on this market.
Okay. That's helpful. Thank you and and maybe just to follow on from that <unk>. When you talk about the the balance that you referred to be it.
Terms of geographic regions or across different project types.
Do you feel like you. Your backlog is has the balance that you'd like to have right now or are you pursuing a a shift in any particular away.
Oh I have to say I'm very much satisfied with at the same time, it's the diversity.
Obviously also <unk> back logo on our core competency and as a balancing I mean and in terms of activity. If you just come back to slide number seven I mean, it's it's remarkably.
Balance and and just is good and this is what make.
A call stronger.
Okay. Thank you and then now just just one additional question.
I think in the past you you've been asked about prospective opportunities to be involved in some capacity in the LNG, Canada project as as bad.
Structuring moves along is there anything that you could possibly say about.
We're getting closer to the point, where there may be an opportunity or if anything's evolved on that front.
Yeah on on energy, Canada, we already working on coastal pipeline.
<unk> all of these major project.
We are waiting for a second to run.
Off.
Beating activities on on on on these jobs.
It may come I mean, our industrial I would take convention and invest to like T.V.T. for you guys to come may come from energy, Canada, but make almost full fall.
<unk>.
<unk>.
<unk> and.
All the location in in terms of a new plans to be built in Canada.
Okay. Thank you.
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Next question comes from Kalbach from our B.C. capital markets feel ended up and.
Good morning. This is Kyle on behalf of Derek.
We know there were some direct direct costs were up a little bit year over year. Despite similar activity levels and we're hoping you could provide a bit of color on what's driving that.
Sorry, I missed that you say indirect towards direct costs.
Direct costs.
Yeah, It's just I mean, a a function of.
Mix of revenue really I mean, obviously, if you end the day well what focused on is is the marching profile.
An overall.
When you take <unk>, yeah, when you look at margins, even with the impact of mining, but particularly when you take the impact could <unk>.
You know marching sort of continued to.
Look strong and so <unk> the mix of the mix of work can drive some variability, but overall you know we're pretty happy with the marching performance of the business nothing particularly unusual in in that number that I would cool.
Okay. Thanks for that and with respect to the N.T.I.B., how should we be thinking about potential share repurchases as part of beer broader capital allocation strategy moving forward.
Well I think as I say do you. The the idea here is you know that we we certainly feel there's been some disconnect.
In the last little while between the way the business is performing and his position.
Has a have a stock price is a is played a with.
Bigger market or.
Strip to overlay so.
It's really a question of.
Being opportunistic, but with an eye to be able to great shareholder value when the opportune to rises and as I said earlier, there's no particular.
Overriding goal that we have to spend a certain amount or we have to.
<unk> <unk> it it really is going to be driven by have things player between.
12 months that we yours you see is you can see we got lots of financial flexibility.
I need it's the disconnect continues and we think.
We were undervalued then we want to be able to take advantage of that for the benefit of shareholders and you know everything that's the right thing to do.
Okay. Thanks for that and with respect to the concession assets was that for me airport impact at all by Hurricane orienting the quarter.
Yeah teams Humberto was the the big Hurricane the hit Bermuda in in September .
So that you'd have an impact on a number of flights that were cancelled in in September I think.
I think the number or something like 20, 222 flights would kind of school through that period of time, so that did have a little bit of an impact on the Q3 results but.
It is you can see the results were still pretty strong a concession segment and didn't have a material overall impact.
Maybe I can add something in terms of construction.
We experience through these hurricane winds around a 125 mice, but our.
All all what construction has been calibrated on on a little more than 170 miles an hour is the response of all the building as being a remarkable.
Screws. These Eric and then we all extremely happy about it.
Thanks appreciate the color I'll jump back into cue.
We have no further questions at 10 o'clock for that.
Friggin well. Thank you all for joining us at once again, if you have any fault questions feel free to reach out at any time and have a great rest of the day and into the weekend.
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