Q1 2020 Earnings Call
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Good morning, and welcome to Matrix Service Company first her first quarter earnings call participants on todays call like John Hewitt, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Cavanah, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
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Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward looking statements as adults in various factors, including those discussed in our annual report on Form 10-K for fiscal year ended June Thirtyth 2019, and subsequent filings made by the company with the FCC She thinks that the company utilized.
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Thank you Kelly and good morning, everyone and thank you for joining US historically, we have started a fall to the safety topic.
During this call we're expanding the topics we will discuss to include a broader focus on environment, social and governance topics, which includes safety as well as other areas of importance to long term sustainability.
On this call like the highlight the obligation that I believe we as business leaders have to ensuring that those around it still say, both physically and psychologically and the environments in which they were in the past week I was honored to join the CEO actions the diversity and inclusion initiative the largest CEO driven business committed to it.
Answered inclusion and diversity in the workplace in doing so we have pledged to cultivate a workplace where diverse perspectives and experiences are valley.
Expand education about I'm conscious buyers want to learn from and Shareable successful.
And unsuccessful practices aimed at creating an inclusive work environment and engage our board of directors into development implementation of strategic action plans that drive accountability around inclusion and diversity.
Across our organization in keeping with our core values, we're committed to ensuring an environment, where people feel safe and empowered. They can open we address challenges present opportunities and share perspectives doing so well not only fuel innovation to enrich our individual and collective experiences and drive success.
And every aspect of our business.
Turning now to our business discussion, we're generally pleased when I first quarter results and in particular is a strong performance and opportunity pipeline in our storage solution segment the performance of storage.
Excuse me performance the storage solutions. This past quarter is a great example, the benefits we derived from our diversified business platform.
This diversity is an asset that helps to protect our bottom line from both the expected Andy unexpected. It has also contributed to the strength of our balance sheet, which we're pleased to be able to deploy as a resource to return value to our shareholders through share repurchases, such as the repurchase announced yesterday and to create ongoing value through grow.
Both initiatives.
For the past several years makes use of strategically focused on investing in expertise and scale across our organization positioning the company to execute an expanding portfolio of energy related storage terminal refinery and midstream gas processing projects provide our diversified project and maintenance services across a larger geographic.
Put print more clients and deliver solutions that support our clients requirements across all four segments. The results of our efforts are evident in the types of projects that comprise our current backlog as long as those that are included in our opportunity pipeline, both of which support our current fiscal year guidance.
In storage solutions. Our teams are currently executing multiyear capital projects across North America that include new and expanding storage facilities and crude refine products LNG and Ngls for both domestic use and export.
Examples include carers Wildhorse terminal at Cushing, a 4.5 million barrel crude oil storage and blending terminal and expected to be in operation by mid calendar year 2020.
Mode of midstream single sign Energy Center, a 12 million barrel export terminal, where our teams are providing EGPC services for not only additional storage tanks, but also the terminal infrastructure as well as improvements to the terminals Marine docs. When complete these improvements will allow the concurrent loading of up to 160000 barrels of crude and.
Our across the centers three deepwater diverse.
Duke Energys Piedmont natural gas LNG peak shaving facility, which will provide for 1 billion cubic feet of LNG storage to ensure a reliable supply of natural gas during peak demand construction began on this facility in may of this year is expected to be complete in mid calendar year 2021.
Other projects across the Gulf coast, and elsewhere to tanks and related infrastructure for LNG and Ngls, such as ethane ethylene butane and propane as well as additional crude related logistical infrastructure to support increased U.S. energy production.
Specific to LNG matrix is uniquely qualified as one are very few contractors with the expertise and capacity to provide concept to completion services for the engineering procurement fabrication and construction small to midsize terminals. In fact, our teams are currently in active bidding on several LNG infrastructure project.
That include tanks terminals and marine structures supporting LNG for export peak shaving marine fuel and off grid power generation.
We're also working in partnership with large BPC firms to support their bidding processes for LNG storage tank design fabrication and construction on various large scale export terminals.
Across the storage solutions segment, our teams are pursuing an excess of $4 billion real inactive opportunities.
Over the past several years matrix has invested heavily in our people processes and infrastructure to effectively execute the growth opportunities, we foresaw and storage solutions.
Results in our industrial segment was driven by strong performance in iron and steel, where we are leading the leading contractor to the integrated iron and steel providers. This quarter's results continued to benefit from various capital construction projects the largest of which commenced in late 2017 and is nearing completion.
Keep in mind that this segment also includes work in other industries, including aerospace mining and minerals fertilizer cement Green and general manufacturing all of which provide opportunities and engineering capital construction maintenance and repair the fertilizer industry is another area, where our cryogenic and marine structured expertise offers opportunity.
In aerospace the demand for testing. The next Gen satellites continues to create engineering and construction opportunities for thermal backing chambers. This is a niche market with limited competition that requires specialized expertise in storage cryogenics and facility infrastructure and as a market were made juice enjoys longstanding customer.
Technology relationships.
It is important to note that the markets. In this segment are inherently cyclical and highly sensitive to commodity pricing, specifically for ferrous and nonferrous metals.
The wind down this calendar year of the major capital projects I mentioned previously combined with softness in global commodity pricing will result in reduced revenue opportunities for this segment in calendar 2020.
However, based on our knowledge of these markets and the capital spending needs of our customers remain positive about additional future opportunities in our position in these markets.
In oil gas and chemical with the exception of a margin feet on the capital construction project the years shaping up as expected. This quarter's results reflected normally low seasonal refinery volumes in the summer months and less capital project activity across the segments that said the fall refinery turnaround season is fully booked.
And capital project activity is starting to ramp up.
We have also continued to expand our market penetration with new and existing customers.
Strong customer satisfaction is driving even more opportunities as we execute against our strategy to increase revenue from fixed space refinery maintenance operations. For example, because of the consistent quality work of our turnaround maintenance and repair teams. We were recently awarded a five year contract as the primary onsite mechanical contractor.
At shells Puget sound refinery provided a variety of embedded services, including daily on site maintenance Smallcap projects and turnaround support. In addition, we have ended the west coast market with our building trade solution to support refinery clients impacted by California Senate Bill 54, now in our second full year this strategy.
Is gaining strong traction for the business.
Besides our strong position inside North America's refineries, we have they continue to strategically expand or service offering to other markets, including natural gas processing, the recovery processing and handling of sulfur and the petrochemical industry.
Ongoing strategic positioning across each of these markets continues to create multiple opportunities and accordingly, we expect this segment's revenue growth producing margins within our target range.
Our electrical infrastructure segment was impacted by anticipated low seasonal volumes, creating under recovery of construction overhead costs and a charge on a transmission and distribution project that we are executing outside of our historical service territory.
Last two fiscal years have been challenging for our substation transmission and distribution portion of our electrical infrastructure segment I will remind you that this business has a strong history of performance for matrix. Since the early two thousands we are confident that region returned to power delivery portion of this segment to a strong historical operating characteristics.
Investment and capital equipment, and talent operational improvements and geographic expansion to drive scale and leverage that will bring higher revenues client diversity and improve margins.
Against this backdrop, our vision to expand this line of our portfolio continues to be an important part of our long term strategy doing so supports our vision to grow the enterprise and our markets with long term infrastructure spending needs diversified revenue streams to include markets that are not as commodity price sensitive and create a better connection to the guy.
Growing renewable energy market on the power generation side of our business. The strategic shift we made some time ago to focus on specific sub contract services, such as centerline erection electrical and other mechanical services has proven successful. These projects typically represent individual project revenue opportunities below 75 million.
With a better risk profile. One such example is work recently completed at the CNG Bridgeport Harbor generating station, where based on the outstanding performance of our teams. We were selected for project work that included not only the centerline erection, but preliminary site work legible underground bounced sometime mechanical and startup and support.
As North American base load power generation market transitions from coal and nuclear to one that is gas fired combined with renewables our strategic positioning is key and a long term opportunity pipeline is strong.
Across the company, we continued to make investments in areas that help create differentiation and enhance our competitiveness such as safety leadership and professional development as well as equipment systems and process improvements at the same time, we continuously monitor the current economic and political environment, which can impact the timing of project awards and starts.
With that said, we do not anticipate any significant impact on the current fiscal year and are confident in our guidance I'll now turn the call over to Kevin.
Thank you John .
In the first quarter, we produced revenue of 338 million.
Which was a modest increase of 6.2% over the first quarter revenue of 319 million last year.
Gross margin in the quarter was 9.6% as compared to 7.4% in the first quarter fiscal 2019.
Overall project execution was strong but the consolidated gross margin was impacted by lower than expected margins on two projects as wells under recovery of construction overhead costs in a couple segments.
Our SGN any costs for 23.7 million in the quarter as compared to 21.2 million last year.
The increase resulted from personnel investments to support our growing business as well as higher incentive compensation costs, resulting from the improved operating performance.
As a result of the revenue increase in the higher gross margins pre tax earnings improved 222% from $2.8 million in the first quarter of last year to 8.9 million this quarter.
Our tax rate this quarter at 30.6% was higher than the 27%. We normally expect as the result of excess tax expense related to the vesting of stock based compensation.
We still expect our fiscal 2020 tax rate to be 27% for the remainder of the fiscal year.
Fully diluted.
The bottom line is the company produced net income of 6.2 million.
Compared to $2.3 million in the first quarter last year fully diluted earnings per share improved 175%.
Our EPS was 22 cents this quarter as compared to eight cents last year EBITDA for the quarter was 14 million or 4.1% of revenue in the prior year EBITDA was 7.6 million.
Our backlog performance in the quarter was in line with our expectations. We had 322 million of project Awards, which produced a book to Bill of one we ended the quarter with backlog of 1.1.
We have continued to capture a good volume to small and medium sized projects. Our project funnel remains strong with many sizable project opportunities and our expectation is to end the year with a backlog position as strong or better than we enter the year.
Now, let's talk about the specific results of each of our segments.
The performance in our electrical infrastructure segment was below our expectations revenue was 31.5 million in the quarter as compared to 44.7 million in the first quarter last year.
As expected revenue volume was impacted by normally low spending during the summer months as well as reduced levels of power generation work.
The book to Bill for Electrical was 1.0 on project awards of 30 million.
Gross margins were 0.3% in the quarter as compared to 7.6% in the first quarter fiscal 2019.
Project execution was good for our power generation package work. However, two items negatively impacted the margin performance in this segment first we purchase charge of 1.8 million.
Related to lower than expected productivity and craft retention cost on a power delivery project in a new territory.
Second we under recovered our construction overhead costs as a result of below revenue volume.
Excluding these two items combined with the good performance of our power generation work. The segment performed at a level approaching our target market margin range. We'll keep you updated on the results of our efforts to grow our revenue base and improved operating performance. This is a top priority for the company.
Next we will discuss the oil gas and chemical segments, which performed as expected with the exception of one item.
Which clouds the underlying strength in this segment.
Revenue was $58 million in the quarter as compared to 76 million in the first quarter last year.
Volumes were impacted by lower capital product project activity across the segment as well as low refinery spend during the summer months. This lower spending as a seasonal occurrence as us refinery runs typically reached their highest points in the summer.
And demand for petroleum products, especially motor gasoline tends to peak.
Gross margins were only 6.3% in the quarter as compared to 7.5% in the first quarter fiscal 2019.
The quality of work and margin performance in the quarter were in line with our expectations for most of the segment. However, the first quarter segment gross margin was negatively impacted.
By lower than previously expected margin on a capital project, where piece of purchase process equipment was found to be underperforming.
During the startup and commissioning stage.
We also experienced under recovery of construction overhead costs, resulting from the lower summer what revenue volumes.
Well gas and chemical had 91 million of project awards in the quarter, resulting in a strong book to Bill 1.6.
Awards included engineering projects in the gas value chain.
As well as long term refinery maintenance contracts and refinery capital work.
Now, let's move to our storage solution segment was produced outstanding results revenue of 150 million in the quarter increased 33% over the $113 million in the first quarter fiscal 2019.
The increase was driven by tank and terminal construction work as well as higher levels of repair and maintenance spending by our customers.
Strong project execution led to a segment gross margin of 14% in the three months ended September Thirtyth 2019.
The margin in the prior year was 8.5%.
In addition to the high revenue volumes and strong operating performance storage solutions fourth 143.5 million.
And project awards, resulting in a book to Bill of 1.0 for the quarter.
The awards include both LNG and crude storage projects.
To close hours, our view of the segments, we will discuss industrial operating performance was strong but as expected project awards in the quarter relied.
Revenue was 99.99 million in the first quarter as compared to 86 million in the same quarter last year. The increase in revenue is from higher volumes of Iron steel work included including the continued execution on a large capital project in Ohio.
This project will be substantially complete as we reached the middle of the fiscal year.
The strong volumes of iron and steel were partially offset by lower volumes of thermal backing chamber work.
Gross margins were 7.8% in the quarter as compared to 5.7% until first quarter fiscal 2019.
The improved segment gross margins, resulting from solid project execution on both capital and repair and maintenance work.
The book to Bill for Industrial was 0.6 on project awards of 57 million.
As we have discussed project spending by our iron and steel customers business is expected to be lower in the current environment.
Moving onto our balance sheet and liquidity, we ended the quarter of the cash balance of 140 million.
This represented an increase of 50 million in the quarter that resulted primarily from cash flows from operations.
We currently have only 11 million borrowed on our credit facility our capital expenditures in the quarter were 8.7 million, which is about 2.6% of revenue. This is somewhat higher than our full year path fiscal 20 point.
Capital expectation of 1.5% to 2%.
As a result of the increase in cash and higher availability under the credit facility, our liquidity increased 66 million in the quarter to 308 million.
Our approach of maintaining a strong balance sheet and good liquidity remains.
We intend to continue to pursue acquisitions, but we'll do so in a manner.
It allows us to maintain a strong financial position.
Our primary uses of cash are designed to strengthen shareholder value. These uses include acquisitions funding working capital investing inorganic growth initiatives and share repurchases. As previously mentioned, we will execute a stock repurchased in the second quarter.
We expect to commence the repurchase next week through the open market and we'll buy at the $20 million of stock during the remainder of the quarter.
Now, let's discuss guidance.
The outlook for our storage solutions and oil gas and chemical segments are positive we expect storage volumes to remain strong throughout the fiscal year, increasing work on capital construction projects as well as repair and maintenance work should lead to growth in our oil gas and chemical revenue as we move to the rest of the fiscal year.
Our industrial segment, which has performed well over the last two years will likely softening in the second half of the year due to the completion of a large capital projects and the cyclical weakness in commodity commodity pricing. However, as commodity prices improve it is our expectation that our iron and steel and mining and minerals clients.
We'll return to the higher spending levels as such our long term outlook for this segment remains positive.
Finally in our electrical infrastructure segment, we continue to focus on operating improvements to impact margin performance, while actually actively pursuing organic and acquisitive growth to move beyond our current northeastern us footprint.
Which is a key element of our improvement plan on a consolidated basis, our second quarter revenue and earnings should improve modestly from Q1, and then continue to improve as the year progresses in closing the company is maintaining fiscal 2020 guidance with revenue of 1.4 billion to 1.55 billion and fully.
Diluted earnings per share of $1.10 to $1.40.
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Our first question comes on line of John contract with Fidelity Company. Your line is open.
Yes, good morning, guys.
I want to start with storage sized business two consecutive great gross margin quarters can you talk a little bit about what's driving that and the sustainability is the above the target range.
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We've got a very good workload.
Flowing through storage solutions currently and it's a mix some of them a mix of a variety of different things and markets.
It's not only MPC work on full terminals. Those also individual tank packages and maintenance and repair work on hand, primarily includes storage tanks, which has really picked up over the last couple of quarters. So it's a combination legal all those things coming together and based on a based on the pipeline.
I have opportunities and for us.
We think theres as we've got a good chunk of that.
Level of performance to continue for the rest of the fiscal year.
Okay and.
The kind of alluded to the fact, they expect to exit fiscal 2020 with with backlog similar to a beginning began the year given your commentary about what's going on industrial side of the business and the recent results were seeing in.
Electrical infrastructure.
That was kind of suggest that that storage and.
Oil and gas chemical and you'd have to pretty much carry the backlog bookings profile from now to then is there enough demand out there.
No. It's John about the opportunity pipeline now versus a few months ago firmed up in those two segments.
Yes, I think really the so still regional gas in chemicals certainly will.
Provide good backlog growth we believe.
Storage will provide some of the larger project awards that are going to build into backlog and provide more long term visibility.
But I think electrical Scott I wouldn't sell electrical short I think there we have good opportunity there to have some good awards in electrical both on the on the project on the power delivery side, but also on the power Gen side and industrial industrial will be lighter for sure, especially for our mining minerals in.
And is still clients, but we have some other things going on in industrial to analysts fertilizer opportunities out there and we're looking at work and some for grain for export and some other things, but but.
Look through the look through our business storage in August and chemical will be.
Good backlog builders for the organization and electrical World, both will come in behind them.
Okay. I guess, one last question on on the share repurchase can you kind of talk about what your expected timing as of the share repurchases and.
And what does that say about the M&A pipeline and it doesn't take a lot of dry powder out but.
Is it saying that maybe just multiples out there just aren't attractive.
Just those two comments.
Sure So were Rob as Kevin said, our intention is to.
Purchase that $20 million worth of stock through the end of the second quarter.
We do have limitations on how many shares we can buy and on a daily basis, and but we think we get to the total number of shares of the 20 million will provide us.
Emanate targets. We've had you know that this quarter. We've had a couple of deals that we've looked at you know have done class done a bit of work on but the either we did not like the pricing fundamentals or you know we're unsure of the culture fit.
Into our organization. So this doesn't change our desire to do that probably wouldn't does set and it was we don't have anything imminent you know within within the next next quarter that we're going to add to go plunk a lot of money down on a work we continue to be active and we're continuing to look.
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I guess any more color on.
I guess, the the capital projects that caused the shortfall in oil got some chemical in industrial Kevin I think you said that I'm guessing chemical is kinda in the middle of conditioning. So maybe that one is completely behind this but just.
I guess expected timelines in terms of finishing both of those project.
The the <unk> chemicals segment of the project that we're talking about what you really can't get a lot more information on but you know that we're gonna be yeah substantial complete but by the end of this county or would that.
Yeah. So when we were in start up facing commissioning where that had a piece of scares equipment.
She had some technical issues and leave it at that that we are working through and so but the result of that you know cause us to take a charge on the project. So that we you know good I think six and get decline up and running but wouldn't like to add to that that's still a good project yeah, Yes, I'm still has double digit margins yes.
And and.
<unk> the transmission and distribution project in you know as part of our organic expansion strategy project, we picked up.
Has had some challenges with whether labour availability somebody in some other things and so it's you know caused you know pressure on the margin obviously, the we had to fill the so we had to take a charge on it that job is.
Ah, 60% is kind of kind of completed and it it'll be continuing to work through the second quarter and I think partially into the third quarter.
John to that I mean, just what the difficulty because I've had my project.
Rethink, how you're approaching organic expansion of that business.
I don't I don't think so I mean, you know.
You know when you're doing mean organic expansion for you know businesses and you're moving into terror service. Their toys that maybe you haven't worked in before with clients. You have worked before they're they're going to create a little more challenges than you and you would if you're you know kind of a home town a contractor. So you know it's unfortunate certainly isn't.
Not what we want but it's it's it's not something that changes our vision long-term vision for the business. It may hiding it heightens the need for acquisitions in that space to be able to attract labor client.
Experience geographic experience. So highlights I think it highlights the importance of the of them an a. side of that expansion, but it certainly doesn't change our vision for what the future of that second looks like.
Okay.
And then just another one on the storage business if I could is there.
I understand that execution, it's been great across the board over the last couple of course, but there.
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The issue that the bigger competitor than the space I guess I'm wondering if we're starting to see you guys benefit from tend to be and the only ones and just make that happen.
Period issues.
I think that's that's part of it right. It part of it I think it's opened up some more opportunities for our business on some projects <unk> a small enlarge that before we might not have gotten a second <unk> from some some clients. So I think that is benefiting us there's a lot of that.
Tivity, which is helpful on a on the margins.
You know you get you sort of you know, especially on the tank work you swear to get into a cadence in or in a in a in a in a run when you're going from tank job to tank John to tank job and keeps or people together. They continue to gain more experience. We can keep you continue to look a better ways to do things and I think.
That's as a lot to help.
As a lot the health of the overall performance as well.
You don't want some of the larger capital projects you know, we're it's it's generally a shorter less of competitors.
And many times were involved up front with the client on their feet were were doing engineering. So we're able to kind of control our destiny, a little bit better when we have control of the engineering and all the fabrication and all the equipment deliveries and I think so we do agree very good job on on the front end of those projects you know they really help us perform well.
When we're in the field.
Still I also think this kinda demonstrates.
Why we held onto two talent during the downturn.
And why we've been adding talents into the organization over the last 12 18 months.
As we saw a backlog increasing.
I guess is on that topic, one more if I could I mean that business is expected to.
Keep growing here through the end of the here is there.
Are you bumping up against capacity constraints from a labor perspective at all or do you feel pretty comfortable about your guys is just capacity to keep going that business. No. We feel very good about where we are phone capacity standpoint, plus a lot of these projects you know it's tiny of how they all all that how they all pulled together and.
So it's projects or S. pieces of projects are unwinding, you know our crews moved from project to to project, where there may be winding up and so now we're we we feel very good about our capacity and we're we're looking for more so we got plenty of people want to get busy.
Thanks.
Thank you know in our next question crossing the line of no out that's with Steve.
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So Ah John I think you may be talked about that's what that's when you report at the fourth quarter, but you know as you look at the higher end up your guidance versus the lower end you know what are some of the things that have to come through to to get to the higher end and what are some of the concerns that are kind of built into the lower the lower end of that patent.
Concerns wouldn't be as how's that current economic and political environment is going to affect the spending plans for many of our keep clients.
And so we're we're pretty good shape. This year for as you move into the of where we are from a backlog.
Level and for us too, but this fiscal year. So the question really is how's that going to impact bookings and then those bookings going into our fiscal 2021.
You know the upside upside of it is is you know we need to not have a couple margins age on projects.
Some of the project out there that we see actually they're bookings accelerate we're able to move some of those revenues into the back half a year.
You know that'll create opportunity for on the up side of the other guys range. So it's really bad it's probably really about that more anything it's about the timing of awards.
So we're in good shape for the year and will continue to ask sort of what we like to call him in a quarter or wherever corridor I'd like we had this this quarter I mean, though the the having a a book to below of a one in this quarter. There wasn't really a lot of big projects and that it was you know just kind of love smaller stuff and maintenance deals and.
Expansion on some of our existing projects and so you know that those would be the kind of quarters. I think we're gonna have here until we get into the second half of the year. So then the timing of awards on some of the bigger projects were were tracking and and bidding on and working appliance on.
Ah if that stuff come sooner than what we currently are planning it'll have a tendency than the drive up of course revenues and and the margins.
Okay, Great and then could you just expand a little bit in terms of what you're seeing around labor availability and any wage inflation in your ability to pass that that through just trying to get a sense of yeah, what you're saying generally in the labor markets.
We've we've been in general across our business, we've been pretty effective attracting labor to all of our projects.
What the national footprint, you know, we're able to to really draw labor from coast to coast wage pressure.
It's been it's you know wages have climbed up but they haven't been hasn't been extreme changes in in wages that were unexpected.
In general we're <unk> build escalation into our projects or are we pass that escalation responds to our clients in our contracts and we're we're probably having some of the most pressure on labor is related to alignments and so that some of the things that you're that.
Seen on this project in the alleged infrastructure that we took a charge on and.
Then very scarce resource in the country to demand is very very high quality of the infrastructure needs. Yeah. One again when you move into a new service territory. You know the the you know the landing at work in that area are are are pretty much went to a.
To the local contractors that had a steady base of operations, though and that's what makes the acquisition piece of the so important.
Engine in you know at our northeast, Puerto about business, what we've got to steady presents we've got stay cruise.
Able to combine or Lyman with what we call inside electricians on a lot about projects together in a more robust labor labor pool, and now but I you know I think it's something we're continuing to watch for our across the entirety of our business and you know we're <unk> today, we've done a pretty good.
Java, managing the you know our our demand for labor.
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Going any further remarks.
For closing remarks.
Well, thank everybody for joining us today and appreciated good questions and we look forward to talking to everybody end of next border. Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, this conclude today's conference call. Thank you for participating.
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