Q4 2019 Earnings Call
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Thank you operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us pretty construction partners conference call through your fourth quarter in fiscal year end 2019 results.
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No I would like to turn the call lowered construction partners, President and CEO Mr. Charles.
Charles.
Thank you Rick.
Good morning, everyone with me on the call today, our net lending.
Hi, Executive Chairman, Alan Palmer, our Chief Financial Officer.
In my opening remarks today I will provide comments about our physical 20 liking that provide an update on our business.
I will then turn the call over could there be additional combat finally, Alan will review our financial results.
Yeah, sorry, 2020 out.
We'll take your questions.
Please without physical 20 adopting performance Reagan due for the year was $783.2 million.
15.2% compared to last year.
And led to a strong growth cannot <unk> dollar to $92.3 million up 22.2% compared to last year.
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Our adjusted EBITDA margin increase getting 11.8% 70 basis points for the last year.
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Favorable working conditions in the last six months, how physical 20 lactate.
The margin growth was fueled by strong operational football much.
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In October we announced our Twentyth acquisition, where they hot mix asphalt manufacturing plant and paving.
After they had I high growth area I'll be Florida East Coast.
This location is close to the hope it Joe be acquisition that we made in February we expect both markets could benefit from the close proximity and enhance particle integration what type of bars equipment fleet and workforce capability.
For like a broad range of services, there's transaction represents yet another important step and I effort to build our business in areas, where we believe that they're meaningful opportunities the eye at scale drive growth and provide value for customers.
Well, there's acquisition simply that somebody integrate it we have now completed five successful acquisitions since our initial public offering and my 20, I think today, we operate 33 hot mix asphalt plants across five southeastern states.
In addition, we operate like I've shared with days and one liquid asphalt terminal overall, Oh, we internally sourced pushing up our aggregates all about hot mix asphalt plants.
Additionally, we internally, so where some of our hot mix plants. They liked what asphalt Crazy, Florida terminal, we acquired in February and began operating in March.
Actually moving to baseball 2020, we will continue to consistently execute their strategy optum, so profitable growth utilizing great why am I in English.
One more work and the core markets got making strategic acquisitions and by expanding through Greenfield, where we installed and asphalt plant, establishing a new market.
Our acquisition pipeline remains robust and we continue to have conversations with many family owned businesses.
Oh, so very patient well acquisition opportunities and evaluate prospects that best fit their CPR strategy.
Before turning the Colorado, but didn't need it.
I'd like to thank our senior management team for their leadership and I would also like to think more they added almost 2200 employees for their dedication and hard work that enables us to execute our strategy.
Now I turn the call over the next Fleming, our executive Chairman for a few additional comments there.
Thank you Carl and good morning, everyone.
It's 2019 results demonstrate the team continues to deliver control profitable growth.
We're pleased to have completed a successful secondary offering in early September that was oversubscribed and we believe it has helped to increase our daily trading volume.
As we continue to tell what's the airport. We believe investors appreciate the compelling dynamics of our differentiated business model.
I understand the benefit of our local market competitive landscape, coupled with the rapid growth throughout the stake we operate it means creep state funding all of which create continued opportunity for consistent growth.
Executing on this presents I'd agree the same rehab way, we have that's probably one company combined with a corporate structure in coal through built on hard work honesty data orientation safety and respect.
Perhaps an underappreciated aspect of the company story is a strong cultural focus all people.
We have an extremely talented and experienced senior team that focuses on a crane.
Training and retaining great employees, while providing the opportunity for employees to grow and be promoted within the organization.
It's more about three or three for the company and evaluate business. They discover it has been very local business, we're mostly competing with other family owned businesses that often do not have the level of vertical integration.
Let's see PR, both on the manufacturing and the service the size of the business.
Yeah. It does not typically per se Mega project, but it continues to focus primarily on recurring maintenance product project with average duration six to eight month.
CPR business model capitalizes on local recurring revenue and vertical integration as an analyst recently pointed out it is similar to the white services industry.
The company is strategically positioned to continue to deliver industry, leading topline growth and margin as well as strengthening its balance sheet.
Our business is located in fast growing southeastern states with both demand for our World is it fair project and increasing public funding that we'll continue to fuel growth. This recurring demand as well as the funding expansion will continue to grow what end markets.
The team continues to work hard to enhance the that's a result in cash generation to maximize value for shareholders as well as all the stakeholders and with that I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO Allen Palmer Alan.
Thank you Dan and good morning, everyone I won't start back quickly highlighting our key performance metrics in the fourth quarter before discussing our fiscal yearend results.
From a practical standpoint, as Charles mentioned favorable working conditions strong operational performance and increase utilization of hot mix plants and equipment throughout all markets led to year over year increases in the fourth quarter and the fiscal year 29 tight.
Compared to the fourth quarter fiscal 2018 revenue was 237.3 million up 10%.
Gross profit was 38.9 that again up 16% net income was 16.6 million <unk>, 9% and earnings per share were 32 cents up from 29 cents.
Revenue for the year increased to 783.2 Megan.
103.1 million over fiscal year, 20, I'd say.
Revenues in our existing markets increased approximately 51.5 nager as a result of growing demand in both the private and public sector.
Increase also includes approximately 51.6 million a revenue attributable to acquisitions completed during or subsequent to the year ended September Thirtyth 28 day.
Gross profit increased to $117.9 billion up approximately $18.4 million over the last year, primarily due to higher revenue at a higher margin.
Higher gross profit percentage of revenue was a result, the strong operational performance and increase utilization UPOP mix plants and equipment during the year.
Net income was $43.1 million down from $50.8 million compared to last year earnings per share 84 cents compared to $1.11 cents in the last year.
A reminder, fiscal corny 18 net income included settlement income up $10.6 million after taxes.
Adjusted EBITDA increased $16.8 million, resulting in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 11.8% compared to 11.1% last year.
Our adjusted EBITDA margin was a combination of a higher gross profit margin and lower general and administrative expense as a percentage of revenue.
She and I expenses were $62.7 million into fiscal 2019, or 8% of revenue compared to last year, a $55.3 million or 8.2% upper everything.
Turning now for the balance sheet at September Thirtyth, 29, saying, we had $80.6 million, okay, and $14.4 million of availability under our 30 million dollar revolving credit facility after deducting outstanding letters of credit.
Our debt to trailing.
12 months EBITDA ratio was less than one time at 0.66.
We have a very strong balance sheet to support the growth opportunities we're C.
Cash provided by operating activities was picked $4.7 billion 12 months said at September Thirtyth, 20 night thing compared to $66.1 million for the 12 months ended September Thirtyth 28.
The decrease was due to higher accounts receivable and work in progress balances all significantly higher revenue and a 6.5 million dollar increase in inventory related to the operation of our new liquid asphalt terminal.
Capex in fiscal 2019 was $42.5 million compared to $42.8 million last year.
Got 2020, we expect our capital expenditures to be in the range of $44 million to $47 million, excluding amounts to purchase certain equipment previously subject to operating leases.
Project backlog at September Thirtyth, 29 testing was $531.1 million compared to $594.4 million at September Thirtyth 28 thing.
This somehow approximately 82% or 435.9 billion is expected to be completed during the 2020 fiscal year.
A reminder, representing approximately 18% for project backlog is expected to be completed in future years.
While our total backlog is lower than at the same point last year. This is primarily a result of our disciplined approach to strategically focus on recurring repair and maintenance projects. While some of our markets were letting a project mix. It included more mega projects at the time that we typically do not pursued.
Backlog is expected to build again through the first half of the current year for several reasons, including a return to a normal project mix in several key markets a gas tax increase in Alabama that took effect in September and an acquisition that we completed in October and a high growth area and the floor.
Based on the continued opportunities for growth in our markets and our current backlog, we're providing our outlook for fiscal year 2020 with regard to revenue net income and adjusted EBITDA as follows.
Revenue of 830 to 870 million compared to 783.2 billion actual in fiscal year 20 light tight.
Net income of 39 to 44 million compared to 43.1 billion actual in fiscal year 29.
Adjusted EBITDA of 94 to 102 million compared to 92.3 million actual at fiscal year 29 thing.
In summary, we were pleased with the fiscal 2019 results. So we continue to see positive market trends and project management fiscal 2020.
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Our first question comes from the line of Andrew Wittmann of Robert W. Baird and company. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Good morning, Thanks for taking my questions.
I guess my first question here is probably for for Alan.
And its related to the guidance Alan I, just wanted to understand particularly on the other revenue outlook here.
Kind of what's assumed in there.
I think I heard in the prepared script that sounds like all three knobs that you have to grow the business organic Greenfield in acquisitions are all part of the strategy and 2020, no doubt, but I think particularly around organic growth can you talk about how you see the business shaping up in 2020 on the organic side.
Particularly in the context of the backlog that you printed here for the quarter I think some commentary on that would be helpful for us all.
Hi, Andy this is Charles that linkage and I stepped into getting your time, but up you know that's forged outlook you know our guidance is still going to be just like we talked about that we're going grow when this thing to high single digit said through the double digits and maintain our double digit Oh.
EBITDA number so that kind of wherever they are and you know with keep in mind that Ah. This year that we've entered three new markets and a you know we felt like our Oh gosh. It is going be continue to be strong oh, well that definitely bridge that were going up exercise.
This year, the where we are doing.
You know.
Well work in the areas, where we are in would have some strategic acquisitions and obviously some greenfield opportunities. So I do want to make any comments on that.
Yeah that same thing really Andy you, though on we've always talked about I was we don't split it until we look back at historical list. How much has been acquisitive and how much has been organic you know we see our markets the bidding in our markets are still fall.
The lower backlog that we're starting out with compared to last year, one thing to point out layers that backlog does not include the backlog that there was an acquisition October photos, because we didn't know that company at September Thirtyth, So that would.
Included that backlog song and what we look at or not U.S. projects that we have all backlog that certainly very important we'd look at the projects that are coming up to be it and you know we've got to be in Alabama, we see some opportunity with the new tax inquiries is gonna be.
A lot of war done by the cities and counties, because I get a portion of that tax and they're gonna be due under my notes and we're in a probably 16 or 17 did popped up markets in Alabama, So we see that as a great opportunity and and the others were still seeing private work is going on strong.
In most all of our markets, where we do a substantial amount of private work. So we see a lot of opportunities to pick up so because we we generally.
I'll be at and complete Oh, you know, 35% to 40% of our work in the five year. So.
We see that continuing in this current year.
Okay. Thanks.
For my follow up I want to I want to drilling and that a little bit more maybe ask it. This way first just on the revenue guidance just as the middle to upper ended that guidance. Alan do you think that you probably need some acquisitions to get there and then just here on the on the backlog.
Just kind of another shot at this one.
You have the commentary in the press release about the Mega projects and how it's kinda not sure game hasn't really been your game and that's been what splits out to bid, but by passing on they'll do you kind of implicitly saying those weren't really the margin profile that you're looking at that your that you'd like to see here early in the stages in that he's saying that the backlog.
In the margin potential of the of the things that you can be putting into backlog in the next few months for for 2020 is likely better. So it was this cycle was this a willing decision to pass on big projects, because there are too high risk and too low margin.
And and do you see that that adds as the euro unfold you'd be able to put in better margin stuff is that that kind of unfortunately, what you're saying with the way the backlogs unfolded so far.
Hi, English Charles again, yeah wouldn't make a decision or.
Not too.
Uh huh.
Look at these mega jobs, or let's say right. They are not market area, where we happened to the Oh work the workforce and their equipment available to do and what color. We don't want to interfere with our core business and these major Josh you know you take on a Lotta research because a lot of these projects are being did with.
Not a complete set a plans and then and it turns out to be a lump sum job and.
They are multi years and you know.
People are some people in these markets are struggle then a you know, but it's just a really rich jobs that we just don't want to participate in that this guy and now so that's kind of the where we are owned or the mega jobs are widely don't do that.
That make a job at all cost straight on the business that.
As got us.
Or wherever we are today, you know, we're staying focused on the pre maintenance jobs and so.
So.
You know from that standpoint.
That's kind of where we are from a make a job standpoint, yeah and Andy on that you know when we're looking at the next 12 months plan that will be out to your child I have a lot of all.
Jobs coming up that are more like what we do participating and and we're not seeing a big number back a jobs and 2020 that are out there in our markets and with regard to the the outlook in the revenue.
All the range we deal does all it includes the consideration that we can grow both both organically and that we can grow by acquisition, so which combination of those that's hard to predict what we've consistently done there's been able to grow when that high single to low double digit.
And when we put out our guidance at the beginning of year. That's that's what we've got implied in there so certainly to get to the hiring and it would either take take our.
Organic growth than we've historically experienced story would take some additional acquisitions, which is what we've been able to do is Charles said earlier just shop together, we might stop so we would.
We expect you know that say, that's the big somewhere in that line.
Okay. Thank you.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Wilson of Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, then Charles and Alan Thanks for taking my question.
Like that.
Uh huh.
The guidance this well it seems like you're guiding for EBITDA margin should be.
Got to down year on year, and 20 versus 19, So I wonder if you could walk us through what sort of the building blocks are that are especially those that are offsetting those sales growth.
Yeah, Oh, if you look back when we gave our Dallas last year. Our guidance. This year is actually up about 20 to 30 basis points from the guidance It would get a oh, yeah. The beginning of 29 chain.
And then night 29 change our job octane dental great job of execution, and but we can't fully forget we're gonna have perfect execution for 2020.
As we sit here at the beginning of year, So what weve focused on as we build our up would you actually in our budgets from the ground up a 33 different markets and good mix of work that we have then those shows you know we look at it is if conditions or go like they did last year again.
You might be able to exceed our.
Got it says we did in 2019, we figured it probably about.
40, or 50 basis points, but we're not going to sit at the beginning of the geared to say, we're going to help you know ideal conditions or something we'd go with what we've got in our backlog and to go with what we see being given our market. So while we may be down over what we achieved and 20 might thing were actually up over.
What our expectation for 2019 was when we started the year.
And there's no step up in fixed costs anywhere then.
No other than from the acquisitions, maybe but we'd like acquisition spike out a certain amount of fixed cost, but we're not seeing anything other than watch factored in Basel three acquisitions that you might last year in course, but the October acquisition is built into our expectation.
We said before generally when we make acquisitions here are some shortly its margin compression.
Usually takes 18 to 24 much to get through that backlog. So that has some impact but that's not that's not overly significant.
And on the topic of the acquisition what are the annual sales of the business you bought in October .
We don't give the sales projections oh on all acquisitions unless it sites major acquisition over 20% of are you.
Are you.
What we do provide is based on the historical basis well. After we've completed it. So we got what impact the acquisitions, maybe then CNN and lighting for all our 29 chain.
We generally don't.
Give out if we get change all number you acquisition till we get it though operating under our belt.
Okay.
So in lieu of that question then can you give us a sense of how quickly you think backlog could improve for maybe where backlogs trendiness, we get to the end of December .
Well historically, because we complete 40% of our work in the first six months only only 40% we generally build our backlog in our first and second quarter. That's also generally the period, where a lot of Oh, we surplus in work, which we do a lot of.
Our markets are laid out in the January February March April period, and the complete them by the end of October . So historically, our backlog would grow from September 30 at March 31st.
Oh and then the calls we complete 60% of our work in the last six months and some of those short term plavix or not let during that period at generally that's fine. So we would expect it to building. Please the second quarter 2020 or more.
March 31st quarter yet.
Got it Oh, you'll do others.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Trey Grooms of Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, Good morning, guys. This is actually ignore macosko on for Trey grooms.
And all the more had another good morning, so I wouldn't look a little bit more closely at the most recent quarter.
So it looks like you guys just came in a little short of your topline guidance I just wanted to.
Drilling to what drove that.
Got you reiterated your guidance back in August so it was there something that happened in the last two months.
That drove the mess.
Oh no from bye.
Revenue being down a little bit you know were operating at 33 different.
Buckets, and even though we had some favorable weather you know how the 33 different markets. They submarkets that you know.
Maybe we get as much work done at the time, but we have concentrated also own other sections of our vision is you know that had a little bit higher margins and though so from a just a mixture of.
I've got started doing different market some markets way back with accomplish a little bit more than the others, but you know keep in mind, if we did have a record.
Revenue year of over 783 million never had a growth of 15.2 and our team executed.
You know their way alone that 20, not taking them.
You know concentration now, we'll need but our growth and EBITDA margins.
Laid out into 20 knocking.
Okay.
And then for my follow up I kind of wanted to follow on.
EBITDA margin guide for next year.
Seems like that implies a there might be some headwinds to gross margin.
Could you maybe talk about your expectations for gross margin it sounds like you know.
Now that you're getting these acquisitions integrated and.
Your your vertical strategy is working why would gross margins maybe be down for next year.
Yeah, I'll, maybe didn't do the job at a partially answered that before.
They are really down because in 29 team. We've had you know excellent opportunities we had a very good execution on our backlog.
The volume that we were running through our plastic <unk> was on the high end.
And so we exceeded.
Our expectations in 2019 2020.
I said earlier, we're going more back to Oh, it's a higher margin than what we had on our initial 2019 guidance. So we don't see it is reducing it but just not building in you know that we're going to how not so.
Great a weather and.
Oh, you know that was all have the same execution level. If you will that is provided by that so.
Certainly that we'll be working to get the margins on our existing backlog.
As we did in 29 thing, but we generally don't start off the year with an expectation that we're going to Oh, you don't have those conditions that allow us to do that there's really not any change well its significance overall on the backlog of margin that we have or.
Any type of additional fixed cost that are coming in and other been problem. The acquisitions I mentioned earlier, but they have a little bit of a headwind oh until we work through their backlog and on the new acquisition of course, we had a bit.
We might get October 1st So we lock, we're just beginning to work through that backlog and understand the it but.
Those those things all have impacted it but Ah you know we hope that if we didn't get on the higher end of the range.
Falls specially with organic growth coming in good then you know which can be brought that a margin <unk>.
2019 20, pointing.
Oh, there's a little bit of savings at the G.I.E. level.
Oh as a percent aware the news. So you know that's helping also but it's not overly significant.
Okay that makes sense I leave it there.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brent Thielman of D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you good morning.
Hey, Hey, Alan maybe maybe just ones for you. It I apologize if you touched on this in the script, but on the guidance you're forecasting a pretty big increase in beauty and <unk> in fiscal 2000 like more than 20% over fiscal 19 can you could clarify what all that relates to I assume that's not just for this made this transaction.
Oh, what part of it would be the acquisitions, Oh, you know because I have that.
And then you go with it.
Oh and.
You know the valuation that's applied to their equipment generally is a wide up so that's part of what's driving it part of it is Oh I mentioned in the prepared comments that while we got our depreciation for 2020 excuse me our capital expenditures for 2020 did not employed.
Some operating leases that we bought out at the beginning of October and Bose or Oh leases that we would have bought out at the end of the operating lease period and under the new accounting guidance that we became subject to October 1st those were going to have to big capital.
Josh asked capital leases. So we just want to get involved but my out. So that's added a couple of million dollars well depreciation and 2020 that would have been lease expense under the old accounting rules.
Oh, that's part of it and then of course, we made a number of Oh purchases of new equipment. During 20 my team that was made in the middle of the year that we'll be getting there for the full year of 2020 . It's just a combination of all three of those.
Got it okay. Thanks for that and then second question would just be you guys have any greenfield plants I got from fiscal 20, and then if you could.
Curious your sort of thoughts on you started seller expectations on the M&A side right. Now are you gave it still able to close these deals kind of it the average multiples you've been able to be historically.
Yeah, Grandbridge chart, where have a lot of conversations going on with different privately held companies right now and Oh, we do a lot that we'll get some deals done this year and from a greenfield standpoint, that's always or labor that we're looking there that then we've identified.
In some areas from a you know so there's always we have that option to cool whos labors anytime we see it no rigs forward a job purchase price you know, we're still see and everything in kind of where we wouldn't be used in.
Right before anywhere from four to five and a half and.
So you know just dependent now with that.
The.
The company in the organization member quickly. So yeah, you know, which there are lot very optimistic that we still have a strong top line to continue our growth strategy just like we've outlined.
Okay. Appreciate your I was thinking.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Thalhimer Thompson Davis. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Hi, good morning.
First question I wanted to ask about North Carolina. They in C. D. A t. at some funding machines pop up in Q4.
And then it looks like there was a legislative fix in November just curious what you're seeing on the ground. They halted engineering I think on 900 projects.
What's your thought on how that flows through next year.
You know, what we see and then back though in that market.
You know that we see it coming back or a record level of funding as you know there were some.
Hurricanes that go went through and some of that money that when he's got a b O T. I believe was used to correct zumba that work, but maybe could be done on roads day after day to be repaid to the deal to get funding.
Have you been taken job. So we're fixing to get back to a regular normal Oh, So you said enough or whether they'll be related work.
The top work that we do and obviously there were some several mega jobs being in that area, but what we see now seems kinda back to a normal go where they're going to be just doing work out. They did work that we concentrate I ever xome.
Adam a lot of that engineering and that the consultants by used for that.
Cutting those back is more likely they impact larger projects and the pipe that we do because many of the biologics. We do have very little all external engineering has to go into almost there just curious milling often resurfacing in existing road.
Something like that that you don't have to sign talk with engineered and Tom show a surplus engineering firms for substantially.
Impact it would close like they went from zero two.
Hello miles an hour to zero.
Oh during that period, there was some dysfunction layer, but it did significantly impact, but I suppose we'd have waterworks philosophy.
We got on backlog that we're working on.
And we have the ability to to LIBOR and do.
City in County, we're probably at work so that we're not totally dependent on the big deal to all like a lot of those engineering punctual.
Okay. That's a good point. Thanks, Thanks, Alan and then can you just round out the top.
The other top three states Alabama.
Florida, Georgia.
It looks like Alabama, and Florida budgets are up Georgia bunch, it might be down a touch next year, how does it look for your type of work.
Yeah, I mean, we see in our markets, which we don't look at the total budget, we looked at our markets that we see that there's a alabama, obviously the gas tax increases when I have a very positive impact for us and Florida, just with the population growth and the people that were traveling down there we see there.
Yes that selections.
Trending very positively so that's what we see.
All you know Oh, Lord Hill again in our markets, we're seeing some opportunities some really good opportunities a.
It will be available for us. So are we see it is very positive in most states.
Okay. Appreciate the time.
A final question comes from the line of Andrew Wittmann of Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.
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Our final question comes from the line of Andrew Wittmann of Robert I'm there.
Yeah, sorry about that goes on mute thanks for taking my follow up question.
I wanted to ask about [laughter] why don't we got there backward.
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So it just wanted to talk about about free cash flow here guys 2019, obviously had some had headwinds Alan you talked about kind of accounts receivable whatever their build their unbilled up a bit here you had the inventory to fill the tanks at the terminal, which is kind of a one off item that was I guess, you called out like six and a half million Bucks.
There, but could you give us maybe you know, but you know for 19 your free cash flow was 20 $530 million pretty consistently even on a smaller company base can you help us bridge from the.
Eight or $9 million and so free cash flow this year to to the 30 and described kind of the component to it sure seems like that hey are.
In a pretty big chunk of of the reason why the free cash flow.
Was down this year and then I guess, that's more important question is looking forward I do you see.
The ability for at least for it not to get worse. They are consumption of cash or is there even though the opportunity to pull some cash out here as you head into fiscal 2020, I think those cash flow dynamics would be helpful.
Yeah, I mean, historically a bit calls our fourth quarter and if you're looking at year over year is so this is often can have a pretty shouldn't make that includes the calls of acquisitions that we've added during the year and we don't buy their working capital so all of that receivable.
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In excess of balance what we've experienced a little bit and 2019.
And you know we to answer we don't think you'll get worse, but hopefully it will get better is it some of the video tapes and started using third party enemy areas to.
Handle their pay much and their determination of the quantities that are completed so we can help all four or five day delay.
And when we get up dealing finalized so for us when we close out our books. We may have a few projects that the bill I guess not finalized all said that ends up showing up that are.
Cost in excess of billings and that's one reason Wabash Squalane. Some this year and then a the turnaround on collecting those were historically if you go back for 10 years.
So generally we collected all you'll begin to billings would then be a month that you bought them. So you build them all but can't go Oh December you collect a Monday September but.
These third party sort of getting involved that has slowed that collection down on some jobs not all of them and that's part of the build your go to collect it but it may be you know the third or fourth of the next month instead of assignments that you believe so it doesn't become a collection problems, but it does.
Slowed down the all tone around that and that's part of what we're saying issue started at the first part of the year. When they started kind of a default procedure and is continued we feel like watch those.
Oh consultants, if you will get more all.
For fish ship at processing it like the be able to used to be a then we'll hopefully see that come back we certainly don't see it getting.
Any worse.
That all the private work side, there's really been no change and in that turn around.
Because again, we're dealing directly with almost that sometimes when you're right.
Subcontractor on the job and lot of our commercial work, we might be a subcontractor to a bull Oh, Dan back in the legacy Shaw because they've got collect their money before they pay us.
But we don't see that as a long term thing, but it's certainly something we've been experiencing all year this year.
Okay. Then just just the technical question to follow that went up.
Mentioned, the B leases that you are going to buy out or have bought out already this new fiscal year.
I was just wondering so you got 44 to 47 kind of normal Capex budget, but then you got the one off to to buy out these leases Alan how how much is that that that kind of onetime BYOD or the leases that that you've done or in the process of doing.
That's $10 million thoughtful.
Okay. Thank you very much.
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