Q4 2019 Earnings Call

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by welcome to Lennox International fourth quarter 2019 earnings call at the request of your whole US all lines are in listen only mode. There will be a question answer session at the end of the presentation you may place yourself in queue at any time by pressing the one then zero as reminder, this call is being recorded no actually comps over to.

Steve Harrelson, Vice President Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Morning, Thank you for joining us for this review of Lennox Internationals financial performance for the fourth quarter and full year 2019.

Here today, with chairman and CEO talked Blue Dorn CFO, Joe Reitmeier, Todd will review key points for the quarter in here and Joe will take you through the Companys financial performance and outlook.

To give everyone Tom to ask questions. During the Q1 day, please limit yourself to a couple of questions or follow ups and re queue for any additional questions.

In the earnings release, we issued this morning, we have included the necessary reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures that will be discussed to GAAP measures. All comparisons mentioned today are against the prior year period.

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Let me turn the call over to chairman and CEO.

Thanks, Steve Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining US let me start with a quick review of 2019 overall and then discuss some fourth quarter highlights for 2019, the company reported record adjusted revenue margin and profits and that strong cash generation you've talked about over the course of the year weather was a significant headwind to growth in the second third and final.

Hunters GAAP revenue overall for the company was $3.81 billion for the year down, 2%, including a negative 5% impact from divestitures GAAP operating income rose, 29% to record $657 million GAAP EPS from continuing operations rose 18% to $10.38.

On an adjusted space on an adjusted basis 2019, excluding the impact from divestitures revenue was up 3% to a record $3.77 billion total segment profit rose, 12% to record 610 million and total segment margin expanded 140 basis points to a record 16.2%.

Adjusted EPS from continuing operations increased 18% to a record $11 from 19 cents.

Of note in 2019, we completed divestitures of non core for duration businesses. We operationally recovered from the tornado resumed capturing share in the market and we introduced new products continued to make investments for future growth and profitability that position the company well for 2020 and beyond.

Turning to our business segments for the year residential reported new record highs for revenue margin and profit.

Residential revenue rose, 3% on comparable growth and replacement and new construction business residential property was 16% segment margin expanded 230 basis points to 20.3%.

For the year residential a negative tornado impact of $109 million to revenue and $59 million to segment profit offset by $99 million of insurance recovery for net benefit a $40 million segment profit.

Our commercial business set new records for profit and margin for the year commercial revenue and profit Rose, 5% segment margin was flat with priors record level of 17.5%.

Commercial equipment revenue was up mid single digits for the year with both replacement and new construction on mid single digits.

Looking at the business another way revenue from regional local business was up low single digits National account equipment revenue was up high single digits for the year on the new business front. The company 125, new national account customers across diverse vertical markets in 2019.

On the service side Linux National account service revenue was up high single digits for the year.

In refrigeration segment on an adjusted basis that excludes impact from divestitures revenue was up 1% at constant currency and down 1% on a reported basis segment profit was down 12% and margins were down 140 basis points to 11.7%.

Constant currency North America revenue was up low single digits Europe refrigeration was was down mid single digits in Europe commercial HVAC was up high single digits.

Turning to the fourth quarter.

On the revenue on a GAAP and adjusted basis was $885 million GAAP revenue was up 5% adjusted revenue excluding the impact from divestitures.

8% to new fourth quarter high.

GAAP operating income rose, 64% to a fourth quarter record $192 million GAAP EPS from continuing operations is up 57% to fourth quarter record $2.92.

On an adjusted basis total segment profit rose, 19% to fourth quarter record of $133 million and total segment margin expanded 140 basis points to a fourth quarter high up 15.1% adjusted EPS from continuing operations rose, 24% to fourth quarter record of $2 45.

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Looking at our business segments for the fourth quarter residential reported new fourth quarter Records for revenue profit and margin revenue Ret residential revenue was up 8% high single digit growth and replacement business and a mid single digit growth in new construction business segment profit was up 20% segment margin expanded 109.

80 basis points to 19.6%.

Provided in December the residential business had a negative tornado impact of $23 million to revenue and $13 million to segment profit in the fourth quarter offset by $25 million of insurance recovery for net benefit of $12 million to segment profit.

In commercial revenue profit and margin were all new fourth quarter Records commercial revenue was up 12%. Some profit rose, 24% segment margin expand 180 basis points to 19%.

Commercial equipment revenue was up low double digits in the quarter, New construction revenue was up mid teens and replacement revenue was up high single digits looking at the business. Another way revenue from regional local business was up high single digits National account revenue was up low double digits in the quarter on the service side Linux National account services revenue was up.

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In refrigeration for the fourth quarter revenue is relatively flat at constant currency refrigeration profit rose, 5% segment margin expanded 70 basis points to 11.1% at constant currency North America revenue was up low single digits refrigeration went down high single digits in Europe commercial HVAC was up low single digit.

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Looking ahead for the company overall in 2020, we are reiterating guidance, we expect adjusted revenue growth of 4% to 8% this year in GAAP and adjusted EPS from continuing operations to be $11 in 30 cents to $11.90 for the full year.

The company has a strong cash generation profile, including $371 million, a free cash flow in 2019 beyond our investments for the future performance of the business. We plan to continue to grow the dividend and repurchase stock, including $400 million. This year now I'll turn it over to Jeff. Thank you Todd Good morning, everyone I'll provide.

Some additional comments and financial details on the business segments for the quarter and full year, starting with residential heating and cooling.

In the fourth quarter revenue from residential heating cooling was fourth was a fourth quarter record $499 million up 8%.

Volume was up 3% price was up 2% and mix was up 3% foreign exchange was neutral to revenue.

Residential profit was a fourth quarter record $98 million up 20% segment margin was a fourth quarter record, 19.6% up 190 basis points.

Segment profit was favourably favourably impacted by the benefit from insurance and tornado recovery year over year, higher volume price and mix and lower material tariff and warranty costs partial offsets included lower factory efficiency higher distribution freight and other product costs.

For the full year residential segment revenue was a record 2.29 billion up 3% volume was up 1% price was up 2% and mix was flat.

Foreign exchange was neutral to revenue.

Residential profit was a record $465 million up 16% segment margin was a record 20.3% up 230 basis points.

Turning to our commercial heating and cooling business.

Commercial revenue was a fourth quarter record $260 million up 12%.

Volume was up 12% price and mix were flat in foreign exchange was neutral revenue.

Commercial segment profit was a fourth quarter record $49 million up 24%.

Margin was a fourth quarter record, 19% up 180 basis points.

Segment profit was favorably impacted by higher volume and price lower material and other product costs and lower Asps unit.

Partial offsets included unfavorable mix lower factory efficiency in higher distribution for Ti and tariff costs.

For the full year commercial revenue was $947 million up 5%.

Volume was up 2% price was up 1% and mix was up 2%.

Foreign exchange was was neutral to revenue.

Segment profit was a record $165 million up 5% segment margin was 17.5% flat with last year's record level.

In refrigeration on an adjusted basis fourth quarter revenue was $127 million down 2%.

Volume was up 2% price was up 1% and mix was up 1% foreign exchange had a negative 2% impact on revenue.

Refrigeration segment profit was $14 million in the fourth quarter up 5% segment margin was 11.1% up 70 basis points.

Segment profit was favorably impacted by price and mix lower material distribution and tariff costs and higher joint venture income.

Partial offsets include lower volume in factory efficiency higher warranty and other product costs higher SGN today and unfavorable foreign exchange.

For the full year refrigeration revenue was $534 million down 1%.

Volume was flat price was up 1% and mix was flat.

Foreign exchange had a negative 2% impact.

Segment profit was $62 million down 12%.

Segment profit was segment profit margin was 11.7% down 140 basis points.

Regarding special items in the fourth quarter. The company had a net after tax gain totaling $18.7 million. This included a gain of $51 million for insurance recoveries receive for property damage incurred from the natural disaster, a benefit of $4 million for excess tax benefits from share based compensation.

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A charge of $28.9 million for pension settlements and a total charge of $7.4 million for various other items net.

For the full year the company had net after tax special charges totaling $31.1 million.

This included a charge of $74.4 million per pension settlements.

A charge of $7.7 million restructuring activities.

A $6.5 million net loss on the sale of businesses and related property and a total charge of $13.2 million for various other items.

Also included in the gain.

Also included is a gain of $59.8 million for insurance recoveries receive for property damage incurred from the natural disaster and a benefit of $10.9 million for excess tax benefits from share based compensation.

Corporate expenses were $28 million in the fourth quarter at $82 million for the full year.

Overall SDMA on an adjusted basis was $144 million in the fourth quarter or 16.3% of revenue down from 16.7% in the prior quarter.

For 2019 overall SG today on an adjusted basis was $581 million or 15.4% of revenue down from 15.5% in the prior year.

For 2019, the company had cash from operations of $396 million compared to $496 million in the prior year.

Capital expenditures were $106 million for the full year compared to $95 million in the prior year and proceeds for damaged a property and disposable property were $81 million compared to $11 million in the prior year.

Free cash flow was $371 million for the year compared to approximately $411 million in the prior year.

In 2019, the company paid approximately $111 million in dividends and repurchase $400 million of company stock.

Total debt was 1.17 billion at the end of the fourth quarter and we ended the year with the debt to EBITDA ratio of 1.7.

Cash and cash equivalents were $37 million at the end of year.

Now before I turn it over today I'll review our outlook for two are for 2020.

Our underlying market assumptions for the year are unchanged for the industry overall, we expect north American residential HVAC shipments to be up mid single digits. We expect North America commercial unitary shipments to be flat and we expect north American refrigeration shipments to also be slot.

The company guidance for 2020 remains the same as we presented at the December investment community meeting and we continue to expect adjusted revenue growth from 40% with neutral foreign exchange and we still expect GAAP and adjusted EPS from continuing operations in a range of $11 in 30 cents to $11 in 90 cents.

I would like to highlight that we expect the flow of EBIT over the quarters for 2020 to be a bit different this year than historical seasonal averages due to some effects stemming from a tornado that I will detail in a moment.

Specifically first quarter historically averages about 14% of annual leave it. This year, we expect about 11% of the annual EBITDA flow through the first quarter with the difference coming in the second half of the year, which will be which will then be higher than historical seasonal averages.

There are a couple of primary reasons for this the first relates to factory productivity.

As mentioned previously we have incremental depreciation from the new equipment in Ohio facility and we also have lower factory absorption in the first quarter.

As you recall, we made the decision support level load the Iwear factory in the third and fourth quarters 2019 to pre build ahead for the 2020 summer season.

We mentioned decision not to due to the coast typical season ramp down in that factory to avoid the disruption in the labor force and production in that facility post the tornado.

The second recent relates to lower margin business, we expect to have in winning back business. After the tornado impact. This lower margin business is planned for and our annual guidance as and is expected to primarily impacts the first half 2020.

Now, let's run through the other key points in our guidance assumptions and the puts and takes for 2020 all of which are unchanged.

We expect to benefit of $30 million in net price for the year.

Commodities are expected to be a $20 million benefit and freight at 10 $10 million benefit.

We expect to $25 million benefit from sourcing and engineering cost reductions and $10 million a benefit from residential factory productivity.

Residential mix is expected to be a 5 million dollar benefit.

For the headwinds in 2020, we expect $5 million of headwind from tariffs.

We are planning $15 million for distribution investments as part of that we're resuming Linux store openings and have 20 planned for 2020.

Within SSG today, we will continue to make investments in research and development and it for continued innovation and leadership and products controls E Commerce factory automation and productivity.

A few other guidance points.

Net interest expense net interest and other expenses is expected to be approximately $50 million.

Corporate expenses are targeted at $90 million.

We expect an effective tax rate in the range of 21% to 22% on an adjusted basis for the full year.

Capital expenditures are still plan to be approximately $153 million, including $53 million funded by insurance proceeds received in 2019.

And finally, we continue to expect the weighted average diluted share count for the full year to be between 38 to 39 million shares which incorporates our plans to repurchase $400 million stock this year.

And with that let's go to cuda.

Thank you.

As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do wish asked a question. Please press one than zero on your Touchtone phone.

Our first question is going to come from the line of Deepa Raghavan from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

Thanks for taking the question.

Or side can you Hey, Doug can you talk about the momentum in your residential business, especially how we should think about whether accurately normalizing the normalizing being a plus or minus two existing guide I guess, it wasn't pretty clear to us at the Investor day.

How we should think about it.

Based on how you're thinking about weather impacting died.

Fiscal target.

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I'll answer what I think the question as I think weather last year was cooler in.

In especially in the summer selling season, and then as we've gone into November and December It was warmer in the furnace season, and so in a more normalized year I would expect whether to be a tailwind in 2020, when I think about our guide.

Call for the market to be up mid single digits in resi, if we get a warm summer then then.

Market will do better than.

Got it but yes that was my question that ventilator normalized how we should think about 20, but thanks for that.

My follow up would be on.

I mean, you called out obviously Q1 now you reset you'd be said, it's a little bit for us, but and youre expecting everything to be second half loaded at this point in time, one of our delta as being captured anything with Q2, we should think about I mean do things just thought to get normal from Q2 on our is there some impact.

From this Q1 falling into Q2 as well.

When in the exact words show use when he was talking about the lower margin business, we expect to have.

You referred to at the lower margin business plan, and our annual guidance and as expected primarily impact first half of 2020, so weak.

We don't give quarterly guidance, but we in essence just did.

For first quarter.

But there'll be a lingering impact in second quarter. So the way I think about it as we spent quite a bit of time at the December analyst day, which obviously you were at talking about the rebates and a different things. We we had to do to win back some of the loss share and we start to lap that mid year, although we'll be most pronounced in first quarter there'll be a lingering effect and so.

Second quarter also.

Alright, thanks, very much I'll pass it on.

Thanks. Thanks.

Our next question will come from line of Julian Mitchell from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning.

Hey, maybe just a question on the commercial business.

Very good performance in terms of sales as well as incremental margins. So just wondering if there was anything on the revenue line you you'd called out at that surprised you and on the margin from.

The margin performance in commercial was a bit.

Volatile quarter to quarter, the Pos sort of.

Six seven quarters.

Do you think that we now on a sustainable floating.

The margin expansion in commercial.

First on the revenue point as you well know chilling commercial unitary commercial can be lumpy. We obviously had just look along quarter. We obviously.

Significantly outperformed the market and fourth quarter that was driven as you heard and Joe comments.

Nice quarter and national accounts nice quarter in new construction.

That all doesn't repeat itself as we go into 2020 for the whole year, but we still think we're going to we call for the market to be flat, maybe the market this little bit better I think momentum.

In commercial is stronger than what it was even a month ago. When we had the December analyst day, and our business is gaining share on the margin impact.

Our plan is that we're going to have more steady margin improvement in 2020 that item that really sort of bounced two items of bounce around in 2019 was one our factory performance and we've talked in some detail around that to major driver being labor availability and we've addressed that in multiple ways talked about in December and then just the mix.

The business and that can bounce around we do better.

Have higher profit with national accounts, and so on a strong national account month equity in fourth quarter than we see even stronger margins, but I I.

I would think assign curve amplitude starts to dampen and it's an upward trend rather than an up and down trend.

Thank you and then my follow up would feel on.

Residential.

Just one did.

You talked in December about the lower margins or level operating leverage coming through on some of that market share recapture.

So even with that you still had very good gross margins.

Wide in Q4, so maybe just any update on how that incremental margin in resi is trending versus what you've sold.

No changes from what we talked about at the analyst day. So.

There was nothing in fourth quarter that materially changed again, we take the guidance in mid December So we have pretty good view, what was happening and so.

Everything I said in December.

Standing today.

Great. Thank you. Thanks.

Our next question then it's going to come from the line of.

Jeff Hammond. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys.

Hey, Jeff.

Hey, just on kind of share recapture progress we are hearing in the channel.

People kind of discounting don't hold on some of that borrowed share just what are you seeing.

And kind of what.

Where do you think where do you think share captures kind of played out in the fourth quarter versus expectations.

In the played out where we broadly where we expected to Jeff I mean, we called it in December that we're going to get back 80% or so the loss share and and we roughly did that in first quarter were film, we're feeling pretty good about where we're at I mean, it's as you know, it's always competitive marketplace and.

And.

But broadly as disciplined structure.

We announced price increases for 2020 that we're going to get $30 million price and Thats net of any of this matching that we have to do to hang on our win back some of our loss share. So.

I know some of the sell side notes years, but others are sort of talked a little bit about this I don't think it's much different than it's been in past years now we've called out that there is going to be some impact in our decrement. Our incrementals are 20%. So the normal 30% in 2020 and Thats part of this but thats all accounted for and our guide.

Okay, and then it sounds like some of the commercial.

Issues in the plan or are resolved in your your margins are going to be more stable.

Can you speak too.

He kind of labor inflation inefficiencies and refrigeration in residential and kind of how those.

Play out through the year in in terms of normalized.

We feel.

I think the guide that we gave them the segment that factsheet here, we guided in December that we'd have 10 million a factory productivity in 2020, we had negative batch productivity I think thats called inefficiency in 2019, and so we're feeling better about things across the enterprise. So there's some initiatives I talked about maybe so.

Typically around commercial of moving more.

The full time labor versus versus the tamps doing more level loading we've done that across the enterprise as well as quite frankly have made some management changes in sort of stream some talent into our factories to improve things and so we're feeling much better going in 2020, obviously, we need to do it but we feel better at this point in the.

Year than Weve quite frankly felt the last couple of years.

Okay I don't know if I missed it did you give independent versus company owned distribution growth in Fourq.

We did not thank you.

I'm not afraid to give it some is turning to make sure we got it.

If I if I can find it if someone can find it in the fact sheet we'll call. It I think roughly they were the same and for fourth quarter. We didn't have the outgrowth. We've had in prior quarters quite frankly are we to spike down the script, but bill will dig that up and make sure we set.

Okay. Thanks, a lot.

Our next question is going to come from might have Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Good morning.

Hey, Tony So you mentioned the level loading back in backing the fan but just.

The way, it's going to be going forward or the because we've got a new set up.

Maybe a time they've markets.

The don't necessarily what inventory to build up.

Too much but is this do you plan to level load Morgan pools.

Most likely to answer is yes, but I mean, we have the flexibility to sort of just as need be.

But I.

Again, this is Ben Theres a benefit.

Frankly to.

Inventory and cash management, when we adjust up and down.

Especially when the sensitivity that we had around the labor force, we've always done quite frankly, some some amount of level load and we never go to zero and then ramp backup so in some ways. It's on the margins and so we'll retain some flexibility, but it but I think we'll most like unless labor loosens up will most likely do it for awhile.

Okay, Great. That's good that's great and then Joe appreciate all the kind of on the on the bridge and on the other one Q seasonality. It does the one case is not able to embed a slightly weaker.

No.

Mark market growth in one Q and I'm just curious how January motor trend it's.

Relative to focus.

No that means the guide or the earnings had nothing to do with revenue growth, who is the things that Joe talked about it was whose.

Gross margins, both around factory productivity and around the lower margin business.

January was a little soft I mean, the weather was warm if you look at degree heating days. It was down 20% from year ago January is a little soft, but look March is half the quarter.

March as much about dealer sentiment and confidence in.

It HR eyes dealers are confident we spent a long time with our dealers are confident we just came out of sales meeting people are ready to go. So it's too early to be nervous about anything or because of the weather. So we'll see how it goes but first quarter guide didn't have anything to do.

With with revenue.

Okay. Thanks appreciate it.

Just to go back to the question that Jeff asked.

We had to people chop charged to the idle caucus print this out.

So what are sort of real time, so our independent business was up high single digits in fourth quarter.

And our Lennox business.

It was also up about the same so they both had roughly the same growth rate, which was the overall growth rate.

Our next question will come from line of Nicole Deblase Us from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Good morning, guys.

And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about I'll, let you solitaire bacteria backlog within commercial and refrigeration.

In commercial our backlogs relatively flat year over year, we sold a lot in fourth quarter and so at trained at a bit so flat slightly down but again when we're looking at the order quoting activity, we still feel pretty good about.

2021st quarter on refrigeration, it's up slightly year over year.

And again, it's seasonally a lifetime to really looking at backlog it becomes a bit more important as we get into first quarter.

Okay got it thanks, Todd and then my follow up just around refrigeration margins you guys saw that you're on your expansion comes there looks pretty good in the fourth quarter and any like major drivers to call out or like sustainability of dot level if improvement through 2020.

No again, it's similar conversation I had around commercial our big issues, while slightly different I mean, our big issues in refrigeration in 2019 around margins were one factory productivity or lack thereof, and just like commercial I think that's now behind us suppose that are at our U.S factory in our European factories in any other issue in our.

For duration business was mix.

That we had a stronger year on our Europe business in North America business, our North American business has higher margins.

And and the other issue year over year in 2020 was.

From 20 excuse me 2019 was from 2018 to 2019, we had less of a refrigerant allocation change that impacted us.

Got it thanks I'll pass it on.

Our next question then come from letters of Robert Barry from Buckingham Research. Please go ahead.

Yeah, Hey, guys good morning.

Robin.

Do you actually have an estimate or how much this year recapture contributed to the revenue in Fourq you resin.

The way I calculated I don't have the math the sheet in front of me Robert is take the impact from fourth quarter last year that revenue that we guided to in order of magnitude, it's 80% and so when I talk about the 80% share gain back I look back a year and multiply.

Times 0.8, Thats order magnitude the number that we've been talking about.

Got it and so with the difference between if we back that out.

And what you actually did.

Versus.

A mid single digit number all the weather or do you think kind of the underlying fundamentals in the market. We're also just weaker.

I think it was I think it was exclusively whether the short answer if I understood question.

But I think it's hard to sort of back us out that way.

But I think if you look I think about it this way if you look at industry data.

The market was flattish in fourth quarter.

And so thats, how I would think about what the market.

Got it and then I just didnt want to follow up on the comments about the.

The mix impacts of the share recapture make sure I'm understanding that it was my impression that the share that you lost because of the tornado is generally very rich mix.

50, 60, plus incrementals that there'd be a lot of room for discounting.

Still have above average incrementals on that business as it comes back is that inaccurate or.

I think there is.

Some of the Port I think it's a mix of the mix I think clearly there has been very high profitable and we saw the drop through on that.

But there's also sort of this mid tier deal or if you will.

That we've had back we've had decremental margins because.

Got it alright, thanks, guys I'll pass it on.

Our next question then will come from line of Steve Tusa from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning tied to one Joe this is actually pat's comment on for Steve Tusa.

Thanks, taking my question.

Just with regard to the lower margin business Youre, winning back that's first half weighted can you update us on your assumptions for just the overall market share recaptured rising in 2020, and you expected costs too.

When that share back.

And then any reason why that's expected to be a first half versus the second half thing.

Well I'll answer the first or second part of question first it's because we had already started gaining share back during the second half a year. So it's really a lapping effect right. So we started gaining share back in third quarter when the factories full fully running mid half the year that fourth quarter I just caught out that we in essence gain back the 80% and so it completely opt in fourth quarter partially.

Opt in third quarter. So the real impact is in first and second quarter.

Guys no different than what we talked about at the December analyst day that.

Its a.

20% incremental drop through.

And we went through at the December analyst day, the impact of that lower margin business and none of those guide points of change.

And I guess with first quarter margin softer in resi.

The.

It is too so there's no change how you think about ready margins for the entire year and.

What's what is what is your guide on that for the year versus the 20% in pointing I don't think you gave a guide on the actual margin did you forever.

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Don't give segment guidance for margins and so the 20% was incremental drop through for the corporation, but we haven't given or resi margin guide.

Okay, but no change in its just the profile the year versus what we had in their models versus anything that you're expecting that's different.

Yes, I mean, the way I'd characterize what we talked about new here was we talked about.

Both those effects, both the factory productivity and lower margin business and some great detail at December.

What we didn't do as was calendarize it and we were using this as an opportunity to revisit the exact same things we talked about full year impact hasn't changed our assumptions haven't changed nothing's changed we just want to be more transparent around that the cadence of it during the calendar year quite Frank.

Early so that was wasn't a disconnect between how investors, we're anticipating things and how we were anticipating things in 2020.

Yes, Okay, yes, I appreciate the color thanks for thanks for that.

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Our next question that will come from one of John Walsh from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning.

Hi, John.

Hi, So really good performance on the commercial side of the business.

You know it sounds like from walking around HR, we're going to see a lot more competition in that space around kind of refreshed product et cetera. One I don't know if you agree with that characterization and then maybe what are you doing from a new product or pricing perspective, as we think about commercial.

Obviously, we think we have a very very good product line, our ultra energen system best in the market for high efficiency in our landmark and Raiders as competitive as it gets at entry level.

Theres always a long.

Better so there's a time lag from people announcing that they have and new product to the market accepting and going.

I think one of the competitors you're talking about also sort of bragged about the new residential product line. They were having a year or two years ago and I think in fourth quarter. They were down mid single digits York and residential so there's a gap between we have a great new which it to the market accepts the widget your salesforce and sell the widget your salesforce can specter, which it.

So we'll put our product against anyone the marketplace will certainly put our unitary salesforce. So.

Yes, I am not worry that they had a big booth at age ROI in are talking about new products.

Got you and then maybe you can just remind us obviously with with Vrs you have the partnership there.

As we think about also heat pump versus kind of gas furnace can you just remind us your mix there. So we think about electrification.

Yes, I don't know if we publicly talked about our mixie pump, but we we have a very strong heat pump lineup, we view it as an integral part of what we do make significant investments there and when we come out with new products suite.

Hey, part of it. So so again, we're as good as anybody with our heat pump product line continue to make investments there.

Great. Thank you.

Super Thanks.

And at this time I have no further questions in queue.

Thanks, everyone to wrap up we are well positioned for year strong growth and profitability in 2020 and look forward to driving performance to another record year I. Thank everyone for joining us today.

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