Q1 2020 Earnings Call
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Please be advised to today's conference maybe recorded if you acquire any further assistance. Please press Star then zero I'd now like to have the conference over to you speaking today Mr., Kevin powers, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.
Good morning, and they keep for joining us today and walking through our first quarter earnings call.
And then powers Vice President of Investor Relations and joining me today, our Eddie Edwards President and CEO.
And Alex Pease Executive Vice President and CFO.
You can find the slides that accompany this call on our Investor Relations website.
Please note that some of our comments today will contain forward looking statements based in our current view of our business and actual future results may differ materially.
Please see our recent SEC filings, which identify the principal risk and uncertainties that could affect future performance.
Before I turn the call over to Eddie just a few housekeeping items to review.
Today, we will discuss certain adjusted or non-GAAP financial measures, which is tracking more detail in this morning's earnings materials.
Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures and other associate disclosures are contained in our earnings materials and posted on our website.
All references during today's discussion will be or to our adjusted results on a combined company basis and of note. Our first quarter 2019 results include historical air with results, reflecting certain classification changes.
To align the comps conns presentation.
All quarterly growth rates has tried to today's presentation are on a year over year basis, unless otherwise noted.
I'll now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Eddie Edwards, Eddie Thanks, Kevin and good morning, everyone. Let's begin with what Commscope is doing to take care of our employees communities and our customers.
Then I'll discuss the code 900 impact on both our industry and cost because specifically how we are responding.
From the outset, a pivot not acting pad and then make the wellbeing of our team has been our top priority.
See an increase the amount of experimentation into how do how to do things virtually rather than in person.
Any of these experiments away to new ways of collaboration.
And those new ways of working will be optimized make better use of network connectivity.
Stops Cup as well positioned to capitalize on this as we provide vital connectivity to our customers.
While we cannot predict before the impact of the pandemic on our business.
We expect some stability.
In this on certain period based on consumers needs to stay connected and increase their consumption.
When we eventually reach the recovery portion of the curve. We believe network connectivity will gain even more important is due to the changes and how people and organizations connect.
Now, let's move to what we're seeing today in our business beginning the service providers and starting with cable operators.
Oh, the most park network applications are performing well used to the bandwidth capacity added over the last few years, the support one getting a bit and other services.
That's in the bandwidth search, particularly on the upstream has made cable operators aware of the general need to perform plan upgrades over the next several years.
And the near term operators are using traditional tools and enabling some of the existing features provided additional capacity to better support their band with surge.
Is that in we observe a steady runway the C.M.T.S. sales to the quarter, which resulted in more license rather than you than we expected.
In addition, some cable operators have decided to expedite minutes splits earlier than planned.
Finally is we anticipated days network strain is causing some customers to reprioritize more advanced engineering prize projects like D.A. and virtualization.
And this current environment, there's a focus on the trusted traditional integrated see cap technologies and this places commas scoping, a great position to help our customers night maintained at work performance.
I'm a carrier standpoint, the impact on network performance has been less pronounced significant amount of level traffic moving indoors and then turned to watch.
This transition to walk by this shift network performance requirements back to the wireline infrastructure.
I said leader and outdoor network connectivity technologies Commscopes as in Central partner, who are service provider customers to enable destined class connectivity solutions around the globe.
That's turned out to write enterprise customers.
As a reminder, most of the enterprise 10 market, it's within our venue in campus segment.
The year of again with a strong order pace in both infrastructure and networking and we ended the Puerto really strong backlog.
As we look forward or enterprise business is likely to experience headwinds as businesses continued to call.
Troll spending there's access to the enterprise facilities remained restricted.
Did that and we began to see order softened as we had to do the quarter.
Continued into April and May.
We're acutely aware of the strings on the global economy in impacted it could have so many of our customers, particularly in the enterprise space.
Remained over the years impossible to protect given the evolving pandemic and the impact is having on various industries or what is clear is that the networks are being used differently.
Yeah, let's turn to the impact on our supply chain.
During the quarter, we successfully implemented business continuity plans to mitigate significant disruption in our supply chain.
The diversity and resilience of our global manufacturing footprint was evident as we manage temporary shut down for our factories in China, indirect, India, and Mexico to limit the financial impact and maintain supply.
Day, most <unk> factories are fully operational whether global output close to capacity with Mexico is the exception.
You don't want a factory has resumed operations f. or a temporary suspension imposed by the state of Baja California, and Bermuda says currently operating it reduced capacity.
In addition, also although restrictions have been extended for India. We are approved to operate on are ramping operations steadily.
We continue to maintain vigorous health and safety measures for all cops go factories or distribution centres to keep our employees safe.
We continue to work extensively with but our contract manufacturing in raw materials five days minimized negative impact on our distribution centres and manufacturing locations.
We use the flexibility at our supply chain to make appropriate decisions to minimize any customer impact because governments made but the clean announcements in reaction to the needs of their locations.
They supply chain partnerships have endured this test and we work together to Medicaid mitigate disruption.
Looking ahead <unk>. This is supposed to be resilience, we have seen strong order race across certain critical segments.
Ongoing market uncertainty created that coded 19, and the associated in in economic impact, we're not providing the $2 for the second quarter of 2020, and we are withdrawing our full your outlook.
However, we do expect a second quarter sales and adjusted even to improve modestly compared to the first quarter.
Importantly, this outlook assumes no incremental supply chain disruptions do that 'cause at 19 and that our factories in India in Mexico continued to ramp as expected.
Burning to slide seven we remain focused on the aspects that we can control and are taking action <unk> scope for long term success.
We were taking decisive actions to strengthen our financial position and prudently manage our balance sheet.
Alex will speak this in more detail, but these include accelerating Harris acquisition costs energies for viable.
Adjusting the operating plan to reduce operating expenses and non essential areas, reducing capital spending that you any discretionary investments can be delayed until there's more clarity and what the future holes.
And optimizing that would put any position.
In addition way of adjusted the size and scope of our home networks business or cutting continues to celebrate in customer switched to over the top services.
We expect reactions, we have taken at home network result in approximately $100 billion annual Wiseman savings.
We're confident that they enhancements, we were making will establish a cost structure that will make us more competitive than efficient.
We continue to generate cash despite the challenging top line environment.
While we managed to this new environment the organization Catania somebody progress on our poor operations.
Broad band or outdoor occasionally and the connectivity business had a solid reporter with the highest order input that we've seen in years.
Strengthen peer to interior three north American Marcus they about the rural broadband investments.
Europe astronomer across most markets, primarily due to government initiatives driving fiber to the home bills.
And then you in campus are better together approaches resonating with customers and driving cross selling wins as we offer a comprehensive set of connectivity solutions with a breath of our product base.
We've had several significant winds rewards venues such as Angela Stadium home with the Las Vegas Raiders orders had been place and installations run away.
In addition, Hyperscale data center sales nearly doubled and a quarter and we're being very aggressive with R.I.D. investments to capitalize on our continued marketing opportunity.
Are one cell solution like significant profit progress so they cheer one north American operator.
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Including with outdoor wireless networks five g. remains on track with our expectations are beginning to see increased demand for integrated antennas, particularly in Europe in connection with mid band spectrum utilization, that's three and a half gigahertz in sub six gigahertz stark pick up.
Portfolio solutions that are upgradable topology, or or Gee ready.
Hotel business remains strong as network does <unk> continued to label file G., and we gain more and more approvals within municipalities.
Lastly, turning to T. mobile gear Crandall incredibly excited to see the merger close with sprint.
This is a seminal moment for industry is the combination creates a formidable north American operator.
With an excellent spectral position or they're poised to spend aggressively to build out a world class Fogey mobile network.
We expect Commscopes, the equivocal suppliers, Pete mobile touches thousands of powers to Optimizers at work or their current 600 megahertz spectrum and sprints too and have gigahertz spectrum.
All indications foreign to escalating activity in the second half a year and we're ready to get to work.
Oh now turn it over to Alex with financial results for the quarter Alex.
Thanks any.
Thing I'll begin with a review of our first quarter 2020 financial results and then highlight our cash and liquidity house.
Falling that's I'll discuss what we see as a potential impacts called it 19, and a proactive and Swift measures were taking in response.
Turn slide 10 in our first quarter results [noise].
The first quarter net sales decline, 18% year over year, which includes a one per cent impact of unfavorable foreign exchange as it relates to call that 19, we estimate a negative sales impact approximately $3 million due to supply disruptions.
Adjusted even down to climb to London pretty on point $2 million merrily due to lower sales volumes, particularly.
Band at home networks.
In addition to quarter was impacted by approximately $30 million due to 12 at 19.
Finishing up the P.N.L. button that interest expense was $149.1 million.
Excluding the amortization of debt issuance costs, and how I.D.F. $6.9 million <unk> interest expense was $142.1 million.
Adjusted effective tax rate in the quarter was 26.3% in line with our expected range of 25, 27%.
Adjusting that income in the corridor was $27.2 million or 12 cents per diluted share as compared with the net income of $93 million or 48 cents per diluted share last year.
Over your decline and adjusted <unk> <unk>.
Primarily driven by higher interest expensive deluded share account.
Now moving to our segment results on the slide 11.
In the first quarter venue in campus networks net sales for $469.5 million, including a 2.2 million dollar adjustment related to first county.
Sales decline, 6% as growth in North America was more than offset by declines internationally.
The results were primarily driven by weakness and non U.S., nor popper, partially offset by growth in das and Hyperscale.
Then you in campus networks adjusted eat without $37.7 million grew nearly 87% significant growth was primarily from rockets profitability improvements as we implemented cost batches build a leaner operating model.
Outdoor wireless networks first quarter net sales were $348.9 million a decline of about 11%.
Despite lower spending from T. mobile as expected you over your net sales in North America remain relatively flat.
This was more than offset by declines in macro tower stand outside the U.S. predominantly in Latin America Asia Pacific in the Middle East region.
Adjusted even 88.9 million dollar fine 12% year over year.
Overall volume declines in G.N.A. spending increases were partially offset by gross margin expansion from a higher concentration of north North American base station product sales.
Turning to slide 12 will focus on our broadband networks at home networks that.
Broadband networks net sales declined about 20% to $613.4 million in the corridor, including a 2.8 million dollar adjustment related to purchase account.
Adjusted even not $92.7 million was down 32.5%.
Adjusted EBITDA Klein was primarily due to lower sales volumes and unfavorable Max as a reminder, first quarter of 2019 reflected higher network capacity edition face. These investments began to stop and quickly and the second quarter, creating a difficult comparison early in the year.
Shifting to home networks.
For the first quarter home network sales decline about 27% to $601.4 million, which includes a 500000 dollar adjustment related to first county.
Roles in the broadband gateway in retail business was more than offset by the continued reduction in video sales.
You need to God $11.9 million declined nearly 67% and was primarily driven by lower volumes, partially offset by favorable component costs operating efficiency and other cost reduction that.
Turning to cash flow on slide 13.
Adjusted for your cash flow was a negative $43.1 million in the first order as indicated in our previous commentary we expected the first Florida pleasingly saw and and that used to working capital. However, all at the diligent inventory management and execution on the team continues to benefit cash flow and helps deal, but steer the corridor above our expectation.
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Turning to slide 14, let's review or a capitalist <unk> profile.
As we entered into a period of market uncertainty as and as Eddie mentioned earlier.
He is taking decisive and swift action is to farther strengthen our balance sheet and enhance liquidity.
From Illiquidity standpoint, we ended the quarter with nearly $400 million in cash.
$735 million in on drawn A.B.L. availability totaling over $1.1 billion total liquidity.
Subsequent to the end of a quarter on April six we drew $250 million off R.A.B.L. revolving credit facility as a precautionary measure to add cash on our balance sheet and preserve financial flexibility.
We are currently holding this cash.
In the A.B.L. drop has had no short term impact on our overall liquidity.
In addition to better optimize our cash position we elected to.
Pay the 14 million dollar preferred shares dividend Carlisle in time, the issuance of additional preferred shares rather than cash as a reminder, [laughter] at the option to page quarters dividend either in cash for in time. Therefore, this is a cash preservation measure that we may also use at our discretion in future quarters.
Carlyle's ownership position in Com scope remains an important component of our capital structure and we appreciate carlyle's continued confidence in our long term business strategy.
In addition to our strong liquidity profile, we're at a solid position to navigate the current environment with what we believe as a d. risk capital structure that provides ample flexibility and safety.
Since the close of the errors that position just over one year ago.
The company as repaid $616 million of that $600 million of waste went towards the 2021 node heirs term maturity.
The day, there is only $50 million remaining on the 2021 notes with our next maturity not coming due until 2024.
In addition, our debts that was structure to the covenant like meeting we are not subject financial maintenance covenants.
R.A.B.L. revolver contains a fixed charge coverage ratio covenant 1.0 times.
Which we would need to test only if R.A.B.L., we're close to fully drawn.
R.A.B.L. fixed charge coverage ratio was approximately 1.9 times. If you end up the first quarter, which provides us with very substantial either stop cushion above the one time covenant.
From a balance sheet leverage standpoint.
We ended the first quarter wouldn't that leverage of approximately 6.8 times I want to emphasize that our financial policy continues to prioritize the use of cash to pay down debt and to deliver our balance sheet and our long term leverage target remains in the two to three times range.
Regarding debt payment plans for 2020, while we currently have ample cash on hand to fully redeem are 2021 knows we will not be taking that <unk> immediately.
Given the significant business uncertainty that we face considering calls it 19, we believe that maximizing are available cash and liquidity is the most prudent action in the near term.
We will evaluate our debt repayment options throughout the remainder of 2020 and make decisions accordingly, as we gained more confidence around business performance and potential liquidity names.
Now turning to slide 15 will cover the financial elements of our code in 19 outlook and the actions, we can and have taken.
Konsko has taken decisive action to leverage that resiliency of our supply chain and enhance old liquidity. We are extremely proud of our team and are competent in the strength of our economic model.
We also recognize that the risks associated with Tobin 19 are fluids and difficult to protect respect for manufacturing operations and market demand, particularly in our enterprise businesses.
As we position to business and at dynamic and unprecedented waste and we benefit from a very flexible cost structure with roughly 70, none of our cost basis, mostly variable.
This gives our team the ability to manage profitability as an conditions fluctuate and supply chain bottlenecks emerge.
To that end in response to the club in 19 outbreak. We are taking additional aggressive costs actions of more than $100 million. These include headcount optimization.
Breathing of additional hiring.
Reductions in marketing and travel spend Swift back office rationalization, a comprehensive r. and D. strategy review Reprioritizing investments and review of our overall business portfolio.
Furthermore, we have already reduced start 2020 capital spend outlook by about $20 million and we are confident that we will exceed our hundred and 50 million dollar in total aerosat position related costs energies 12 months ahead of schedule.
Have our commitment that the entire calm scope management came as proactively controlling what we can during the uncertain environment and we expect to emerge stronger company as a result.
Turning to slide 16, and a few additional thoughts on or near term outlook.
Has any mention where withdrawing are previously announced full year outlook, and we will not be providing guidance for the upcoming quarter due to the uncertainty regarding the coven 19 pandemic.
We do expect our second quarter net sales and adjusted EBITDA to improve modestly from the first quarter and this outlook anticipate incremental costs related to mitigating Tobin 19 around $15 million to $20 million.
As we evaluate our near term outlook are competent and our ability to navigate current market headwins, but we do acknowledge the business drivers will likely vary across our segments.
We continue to have collaborative dialogue with our broadband networks customers.
With the dramatic shift of even more bandwidth demand stemming from the home network operators are looking to calm scope to help design solutions for the short medium and long term.
This is evident and a strong orderbook, we see across most major product lines. In addition, we expect to see continued strength in U.S.T. or to a tier three five or deployments through rural broadband investments.
Partially offsetting these positive trends will be operators balancing investment with the internal cash flow priorities.
And outdoor wireless networks the industry has much needed much need added direction with the completed merger a team over one sprint.
We stand to benefit from our best in class macro tower antenna and accessories solutions.
Outside the U.S.. We also remain excited for the building momentum, we see in European antenna sales, especially to support I've G. investments.
Balancing this they temporary displacement of municipal officials put delay.
The issuance permits and impact the steady ramp we have in our metro sell business.
Additionally, called in 19 has already started <unk> lay some minor project in much smaller international countries as well as in the middle East or decline and oil prices is introducing uncertainty for international customers.
Are venue in campus networks business continues to benefit from a strong backlog pipeline of stadium in large then your network Buildouts.
For scale momentum continues with several exciting wins in our data center business, including Deutsche Bank's New data center build in North America.
However, there are some covert 19 related delays as we are dealing with significant uncertainty with our core enterprise market.
The negative impact will likely very materially by vertical and we expect to lower order friend that began in late March to processed into the second half of the year.
Regarding home networks, while the broadband gateway and modem demand remains relatively standing in the U.S., we're beginning to see signs of softness from international customers due to economic conditions and foreign exchange rate risk.
Or video business club in 19 as part of the ring our video decline as new video activation have been impacted from social distancing practices creative prohibiting onsite technician activations fired for new video subscription and the lack of live or it's farther reduces demand for new.
Cable video subscription from customers, all now turned to call back over to Eddie.
Thanks, Alex before we open the lives of questions I want to think our employees again for their fortitude creativity innovation positive spirit inflexibility in providing the central services. During these on president in times.
Working as a team little contains it takes Wilson decides has access to strengthen commscopes in the near and long term.
Despite the uncertainties, resulting from comes in 19 would remain well positioned sport network operators globally as we deliver I innovative products that are the backbone critical communications infrastructure.
The board and leadership repeat or theme or confidently <unk>, we'll successfully navigate through the per operating environment.
And emerge stronger company. It was that will now take your questions and Jimmy I'll turn turned back to you.
Thank you as a reminder to ask the question you will need to press star than one on your touch tone telephone to withdraw your question from the Q. Please at the pound key place down by a wake them all the q. and a roster.
First question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James Your line, it's now open.
Well. Thank thank you for taking the question I I want to see if maybe you could elaborate a little bit more on your exposure to various customer verticals, particularly within your your enterprise business I I know historically, the rockets business had decent exposure to a vertical like hospitality that might be.
Now understood also to cable, but but overall help us understand your mix of of customers by vertical operators financial services hospitality et cetera that would be very helpful. Thank you.
But certainly ruckus, a ruckus, the two strongest verticals or hospitality and education. So I think we've talked about some of the things that we're doing for education.
Think it's been well advertised in the press that the hotel industry and gaming industry is this challenge. So you know we would be we would be we would see impact from that.
Our traditional enterprise, we deal with a small medium large businesses all all have a leadership positions, they're we talked about the the hyperscale part of that vertical.
Is strong and almost doubled bureau, who year and so we have I don't know how confidence in our position there. So it's.
In the in the the cable in the M.S. a market we deal with we deal with all the customers I think we covered in our our prepared remarks.
Challenge that some of our customers are seeing and getting into the home to to do installed for video <unk>, So that that hurts our video business.
We've seen also a heavy demand from the standpoint throughput and and the the need to do more traditional seek out type installations versus alternative new technology and so that's that's good for us and we saw that benefit in the quarter. So I I think the the strength of Commscopes business diversity.
So we can cover the whole spectrum of a of customers in in a lot of what they do and so we think well well positioned there as we are on a global foot putting up from a manufacturing standpoint, our guys have done a great job a godsend ladies done a great job during the course of this year and resilience of of seeing.
Challenges a across the globe on any given day you adjust the fully the manufacturing plant of what type of going like maybe just to put a find your point, though I think enterprises are less than 20% of your total visit business versus operators are probably more than 80 per cent dish.
Mark or we let let me help and so.
Yeah, I mean, Eddie mentioned the power of the diversified the diversified portfolios to just sit dimensionalize. Some of this stuff you're right enterprise about 20%.
Give or take up the overall portfolio. If you you know break it down farther and you think about you know, which which verticals are likely to be impacted I've pretty heavily you know obviously education at hospitality are a couple of articles that we're watching closely that's in the low single digits as a percentage of our total of our.
Total revenue.
You know you'd think about commercial real estate, that's in the low double digit kind of call. It around 10, 11%. So you know you really do and those are percentage of the total revenue not have that not that 20%. So you know you think about the verticals that are likely to be most impacted by this their.
Fairly small portion of the overall overall calm scope rubbing while occasion.
Great. Thank you that's what I was looking for appreciate it.
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Thank you and annex questioning come from I met Diane with Evercore, Yeah mine is not open.
Thanks, helping my question guys I guess, maybe to start off at all but I think you just talked about a 17 million revenue 30 million <unk> impact from supply chain inefficiencies a challenges any sense of how how do those numbers look into the June quarter. As you think about all the junk what expectations.
Yeah.
So I can I can take that so one thing that I want to make sure is is very clear to everyone. On the phone is that the impact that we called out the 70 in the 30 is.
Almost 100 per cent supply oriented as Eddie mentioned is in his remarks that the order rates in the backlogs have been extremely strong and our supply chain team has really just on a remarkable job mitigating this risk as individual countries are experiencing challenges and keeping our our employees.
Safe than getting people back to work just as quickly as possible in this new environment. So it's all supply supply related which is fantastic as we look into the second quarter. You know the situation is is incredibly fluid Eddie topped in detail about.
Some of the some of the challenges we're dealing with in in Mexico, and that's one of the reasons why we've why we've suspended guidance for the year. So you know certainly.
Certainly we would expect some ongoing supply constraints, both in the manufacturing footprint as well as the logistics network, but we're going to mitigate that just the same way we've been mitigating that in the first quarter and then one last just clarify in common I I did mention that's 16 to 20 million dollar impact in Q. too.
Already quantified this is specifically for incremental costs that we've identified and and again that's based on what we know today and you know that certainly could change as we as we look out into the balance with a quarter in the year.
Oh, that's that's really helpful and if I just follow up how do I think about your ongoing <unk> rate given someone to initiate if you're taking on right. Now you know what are the future Opic's one way it looked like going forward and should be <unk> to be positive in the gym quota.
Yeah. So again in my remarks, or maybe Eddie's remarks, we mentioned that we've taken on a on a annualized basis, a a run rate of about $100 million incrementally out of out of a combination majority of that as AAPEX. There's some some costs goods sold at the majority of that is our backs.
We're going to continue to take additional action is we respond to be events. You know that are unfolding in front of US. We listed a number of those letters that we anticipate pulling from a cash flow standpoint, Q1 is seasonally are low point, we're continuing to build cash at at a healthy clip and we expect that to.
To accelerate as we get to the back half of the year are kind of cadence up the year is more back half weighted which was.
Driven by a couple of things first of all it's driven by our expectation at the beginning of the year that that network operators would begin to accelerate their investments in the network.
As we got into that the later part of the year and then obviously in.
And this this current environment with the supply disruptions anticipate those recovering as we get into the back after the years. So so that's kind of that the cadence in terms of the casket, but we we do expect cute to to be to be positive.
Thank you.
Thank you and I next question comes from Rod Hall with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now.
Thank you for taking my question. This is actually not be helpful. Rods I was hoping you guys to quantify deep back, though Oh cool.
Supplying constraints on.
Broad bandicoots profitability and related to that can you comment to Bobby gross margin trendy broadband into what I'm, saying you know how have you see that.
Do you know.
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On the on the covert impact on broadband specifically, we're we're not actually breaking it down at the at the segment level. We've given the 70 under 30 number in aggregate.
Will say that that broadband was one of the segments that was impacted they manufacture the the access technologies piece of that business in one of our Mexican facilities and so they were impacted later in the corridor you know that being said their their order input has been extremely strong and eddie's.
Marks you mentioned network operators, you know accelerating some of their notes splitting activities for network operators that don't don't want to interrupt the network physically weren't conversations with how they increase capacity virtually through increased licensing revenue, we're working with customers to.
Deliver that you know very flexible basis, so that we can get them. The network capacity need you know as quickly as they need it. So we feel pretty good about the outlook for for demand in the broadband number just managing.
Some of these supply disruptions from up kind of margin trend standpoint, you know the mix of that business matters pretty significantly to the extent operators are already using more license licenses as opposed to a physical notes that would trends of the mix higher.
That is certainly a trend that we that we see unfolding in this environment.
Okay. Thank you and my next question is on your dad's than one so the real it.
No two places.
Do you quantify the grouping you or.
Due to the engine insistence on one solution and maybe comments on Oh you'd see good.
The rest of this year.
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Did you learn not to make all tomatoes.
We we aren't going to talk about the rest of the years, when you're not giving guidance, but yeah. One cell has now been improved fully a though one of the good the t. one north American operators, we have a multiple simultaneous multiple locations.
In the works in the the.
Thirties, and forties of active or deployments today.
And so all all the expectations that we have for this business are coming to fruition think that the the people that use it in the people that are tested it to see that it is as advertised and we take there'll be a leader in the indoor a portion of the Oh the business for for wireless communication.
No. It's a it's it's good that that with with rock because it's all interactivity is a bit over the same backbone and and have a both a license unlicensed capability, but we have a high expectations for what one sale will bring this.
Thank you.
Thank you in our next question cuts and Jeff ball with Namara instant your line is now open.
A wonderful thank you very much on that subject and the question.
I'm, hoping that U.P.N. frame for us to do the best you can what we should be expecting for free cash flow.
[laughter] either over the course of year or maybe more generally what the Runrate was.
No of course that you suspended the 400 million targets.
But you know I mean, the underlying it was kind of a 600 million dollar run right before that it you correction or the 200 million pulling into into 2019.
Can you give us some of the variables are or how we might frame our thinking about free cash flow either from this year on a longer term run rate.
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I guess the way I'd answer. Your question is is we we do expect cash to to ramp through the balance of the year. So.
Our our cash generation profile will accelerate will be positive attitudes to and then that will accelerate likely in Q3 and q. for that would be our normal our normal pattern. We continue to aggressively managed to balance sheet and so we've taken inventory at turns down.
We've very disciplined on our receivables in our payables were actually actively.
Negotiating with suppliers tightened terms, so we've been very proactive on managing the balance sheet.
We did take down our capital spending by about $20 million, but that's obviously as a source of.
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A source of cash and and we've picked that Carlisle dividend, which is another source of cash. So our history has always been to to deliver very strong cash flow. Despite what's going on on the top line at the business. Some additional steps that we will take as needed is remove stuff.
Costs from the from the business to the extent, we we have to do that in respond to a soft top line environment.
Obviously, the the core driver of cash is going to be the annualized EBIT dot number I mean, that's really what what underpins that that cash generation. We obviously haven't we've undertaken any guidance for the full year. So I can't give you specifics on how we expect that to develop but we we do.
Expected to strengthen as we go through the year.
Okay. Thank you and then secondly, it sounded as though you were suggesting that some of the cable operators in particular are thinking differently now about how they design their networks over a multi your time.
And and I'm wondering if that means you are more optimistic perhaps about growth in the former networking club business. Then then then you might have been you know again over and over a multi year pure thank you.
Yeah, Yeah, we've made a we've made advanced butts in our virtualization ER technique that we think is more economically beneficial to our customers. We we also have the ability not to disrupt their their their business. While a lot of this is done we.
Have a huge install base I think that everyone recognizes dad and when we plan to a good sport that to do the best we can.
So we fill a we feel like we're making headways there.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Thank you in our next question comes into martial with Morgan Stanley.
Open.
Three things you know really mean, we're kind of meant that tail end of a person that but it would appear in some other kind of wireless base.
Kind of additional positive so any change in behavior, we should be thinking about that person I think that's not the year and then maybe just you know how you guys think about the U.S. That's extension plan to kind of help for a little broad band then.
I see.
Anymore.
I think better we we had talked about I guess, three and a half years ago. It's good what we saw with the the lifeboat first net and I'll take it to happen pretty much as we expected. This is where the till the end of their your initial build and you know we we.
Enjoyed a lot of revenue from that and so that will be a smaller portion of what 18 takes business would be this year, but they they are still spending money maybe not in the same page but.
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Oh for rural broadband Yeah, that's that's a big part of of what's happening today in the market for five or there's a lot of demand for you know fiber a a high higher or middle middle level five workouts in the rural environment, we are well positioned as as as a lot of our competitors.
Well, that's going to be a strong business for the next though several years, but as they as they continue to build up the rural environment. So that's that is a good part of our business and and I think us in in my remarks. It. It was a driver in the network or cable when connectivity part of abroad.
Then during the quarter.
Kind of thinking.
Thank you and our next question comes from Sammy boundaries Credit Suisse. Your on line is now open.
Hi, Thank you so my questions on T. mobile and sprint and given the deals rescind closing and considering some of the dynamics that we've seen in a telecom industry do you expect <unk> sprint and the anticipated demand tips to be noticeable into q. 2020 or in this more date back half plenty plenty dynamic that we should be.
Out for.
Well, we were not guiding those complained that it's happening, but we do have orders and and the route should come in the second part of the year at at a good steady growling pace.
Well positioned with the T. mobile would've been a supplier there's for years and and so we we look forward to do their deployment of a above the 600 and or two and a half a gig frequencies that that they have so it's they'll have a dynamic business there and.
We look forward to helping them build it.
God. Thank you and then my follow up has to do with your demands slide on page number 16, but the slide deck you highlighted the Hyperscale data center pipeline is strong but at the same some supply constraints then that'd be good elaborate are those constraints predominantly from commscopes factories, and any kind of you know supplier they issue.
Or is that more tied to industry slowed down and <unk> permitting slowdowns for construction on developing sites you just give us and you know more color on what's actually going on there.
But Ah you know our factories or are we have a a lot of factories that participating in the I don't think our demand is good there. We've we've seen Ah continued below from from most of the Hyperscale a boat.
You know the the footprint that we have in the bill that we've talked about in the past on multi Canada simultaneous bills is still going on until you know we we we continue to see good demand in that portion of the enterprise business.
Okay got it thank you.
Thank you and that's a question comes from Sean Harrison with loop capital. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning, everybody.
I was hoping if you could just put a finer point on in terms of the cost savings in terms of $100 million of cost savings.
<unk> out within the home networks business and then also the commentary you know taking other cost out of the portfolio want to make sure that I'm not got a double counting what's coming out of networks versus you know some of the response stuff. That's maybe temporary related to cope with 19, yeah sure so that the $100 million.
Almost entirely headcount related costs, what we did was.
Predominantly twofold the first was.
Basically downsized that the U.S. video R. and D. footprint pretty dramatically. So it was about 60% or so the U.S.R. and d. footprint. Some of that will be replaced in lower costs locations, but the vast majority of bad is coming out of.
The business. The second thing we did was take a look at non core projects. So projects that weren't directly supporting some of our largest customers and curtail some of that spending. We also took a hard luck.
At some of the marketing.
Some of the marketing spending and a little bit of the sales spending that we're doing but like I say the vast majority of that that costs take out what's within kind of D.R. and d. for for for the home networks business in terms of additional libraries that we can that we are looking at him weekend pole.
Obviously in in the corridor, we completed a a pretty large scale migration into a shared services footprint within the finance organizations such a team did a a really good job moving from.
Some of our U.S. based back office support to our operation in Oh, India and then we also moves from a European accounting and finance support to our operation in Taiwan, and <unk> alright at all of those activities in the wake up. This this work we're doing a lot of work on system.
Optimization, obviously in this environment sales.
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I'm, sorry, not yeah travel expenses down dramatically. That's typically about 100 million dollar annual eyes spending socket, which will be something materially lacks we're looking at all of our marketing.
Spending pretty aggressively so those are the types of actions that we're taking the the last pieces of course in this in this demand environment, we're taking a hard look at our R. and d. spending to make sure that that the projects that we're investing in our projects that generate.
Are a lie in that that sort of pop hasn't moved on us here. So <unk>. The other thing that I'll point out about.
$100 million that we've references that's a runrate savings you know that's not.
It it at a 2020 P.N. out the incremental 2020, P.N. <unk> just call it roughly 30 $35 million it so.
Hopefully that that gives you some clarity.
Oh, that's great and then any I was just talking to get your <unk> perspective on cyclicality, particularly related to the yeah enterprise business I know I know and pass cycles. It would maybe take 12 to 15 months, where you would you start to see some initial smelling and then it maybe materials materially slows 12 to 15 months thereafter is is the portfolio.
No change or their new technologies that maybe alleviate some of that pressure isn't going to 21 eventually.
I I think I think what we what we've seen that's what I said earlier in the in the remarks is that.
We had strong demand and finish with a strong strong demand.
At the end of the first quarter of we sell things in April starting to slow down and we saw that continue and maybe.
A lot of you know commercial state is a is a a big part of what that businesses and and that's not the that's not most attractive thing today and so we see some softness there.
Copper copper is not a you know it's not a growling business. It's also impacted by the commercial real estate part also the Hyperscale part is a is exciting then you know well we started from behind.
And we're we're we're getting a much more of a position in that and so we're we're happy we're happy with that but it is a very economic oriented business people spend money and a lot of that this this environment spend money when there's things are good and right now things.
Through challenging until I think that there there's a lot of spend on hold.
Or or.
Or slogan, but what what we saw at the end of the quarter and I think from our distribution partners. They they had good backlog and maybe we'll eat through some of that then we'll see we'll see how long this a pandemic laugh.
And and they as things then turn around but yeah. We we have a a global business. Some some parts of the market are reacting a bit differently, but it is a challenge part of a of what the portfolios right now.
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Thank you and the next question comes from Stephen Fox Fox Advisors. Your line is now open.
I I just call questions and he just to follow up on that when we think about commercial construction and your products going in it I I assume we're still thinking net ongoing projects skit completed at some point. This year and then we're we should be more concerned with what the backup backlog looks like next year and.
Along those same lines, obviously, there's a lot of puts and takes in terms, where you benefit and maybe where you get hurt a little bit but is there any math, we could do around as maybe work in social norms transfer from office to home what the net effect could be on calm scope over say 12 18 month period. Thank you.
Sure. We can tell you had to do math, so I would be somewhat similar to guidance I guess, but you know we we haven't seen any cancellations of any any orders that have been placed or anything like that the.
The the business it goes into a lot of the venue business that that is in concert with our wireless business is is pretty robust people are still building, though and I'm too I guess under the assumption that the tend to sports venues will continue.
So so that part is is still out there and viable so no no no water cancellations to date, because I know all and you know it's just a it is flowed it's slowed in the last six weeks after extend the quarter with this with a strong book.
And you know we're we're out there it's hard hard to go call on customers when you can't get into a building and and so we're we're having to adapt to that.
I'll just I'll just try to give you a couple of numbers to to do the math.
So as you think about people shifting to a work from home environment or a more virtual environment as as Eddie mentioned, we're seeing you know significantly increased demand on the network, particularly in terms of.
You know increase need for lower latency and more upstream.
Excuse me capacity, so that's driving network capacity additions and we think those network capacity additions will will persist because you know people are going to continue to work more on this in this virtualized environment that portion of our business is about 40% give roughly call at 40 to 50 per cent of our businesses tied to though.
Types of network capacity additions, whether it's on the wireless or the wireline side.
So that's ought to help you and then on the project wine. It is true none of our project have been cancelled wanted to make sure that was clear.
Yeah that I appreciate that that's that's great. Thank you.
Thank you and the next question cause us to make 10 energy with J.P. Morgan Caroline is now open.
Hi, Thanks for taking my question I, just wanted to start off with the outdoor wireless networks and more focused on the Densification I put two you've talked about strong scenes counting from Metro says, but at the same time, you've seen or send you know usually just people are staying home. So I'm just wondering what.
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There there is some push back from the standpoint of getting approvals in some areas, but it is still it's still a vibrant business. We we didn't have a very good position in there to fully yeah fully functional cell tower, that's like a a lamp posts and so those things are happening I don't I don't think that.
People are stopping to bill for the future.
Good thanks see the the dynamics of of having a more robust the lower latency network is critical and environment from a work for home is you have people dispersed in a in a whole different way, we're going to see we're going to see this environment change I think.
For the for the for the.
Future. After a after this passes as well so you have where people work and what the needs or so I think a more robust network is is absolutely critical and I think that metro a metro sale product support that.
Call It and if I can just follow up on the you mentioned and kind of you're seeing a benefit killed isn't that cool.
<unk> customers in your index benefiting you'll brought by Nicole group just wondering if you have any visibility of how long do you think there's going to feed when most is is is more.
Spending plans for the user or is it a more sustainable you could have upside down you can see coming out of this.
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<unk> also our solutions today more traditional seek out splitting disrupt the network much less than other application. So we we see a benefit from that and I think thirdly I talked about the we have made advancements in our virtualization product. So.
Take that as a as the market opens back up and and continues to be a in demand, we'll see a benefit from that and I think Alex Alex had something anyway. So I I think I think you hit all the high points I I personally don't see this as a poll forward and demand for all the <unk> Eddie mentioned and then I get on.
Pop up the reasons that Eddie mentioned, you know it to my earlier comments I think you're going to see a fundamental shift in the way the networks get get used which benefits benefits us for the long term.
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Thank you and I'm showing no further questions indicate this time I'd like to turn to call back to any I worked 20 closing remarks.
Okay. We thank you for a attending today and you know I want to Oh, Oh I. Appreciate your question in junior continued interest in Commscopes I want to reiterate the appreciation that we have for our people <unk> I guess that we've seen the the the herculean efforts of our people just.
Some of our customers will and and to minimize this disruptions that we see we we also wish for all the the people on the call a good health and stay safe, but we'll we'll talk to your next quarter. Thanks very much.
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