Q4 2020 Earnings Call

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Statements that makes this time it is my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host Chad Prasad president and chief executive officer.

Thank you. Good morning. And this is her earnings release this morning. I'd like to spend a few minutes talking about the covid-19 impact as an executive team. We have the luxury of working remotely off while many essential workers. Do you want continue to be thankful Express or deep gratitude to everyone who has and continues to work to serve our communities while interacting with the public on a daily basis?

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Gets are included in this group 97% of our stores that are made open serve our customers throughout the past two months. We've taken steps to reduce personal interaction and help our Associates balance personal and professional lives including reducing store hours the days of the week they were open.

Continuing to provide paid leave and increase sickly for those who are directly impacted closing our lobbies and offering curbside service as well as encouraging customers to service their accounts digitally rather than a person our Branch team members have been positive strong resilient and have worked incredibly hard to continue to be a resource for a customer during these uncertainties in the States armed. We began to experience non-essential business in school closures around March 13th. We proactively halted marketing efforts and update our underwriting criteria given the uncertainty of the time.

The Experience declined to customer demands and one of the others in our industry due to a combination of reduced marketing as well as stay-at-home orders reducing customer Mobility rapid increase in unemployment and the subsequent Federal stimulus packages have both altered the underwriting landscape.

As a result we've seen dramatic increases in online and Phone activities related to the account access payments and refunding cases. We've also expedited projects related to our digital presence and on a living and are currently piloting piloting online applications with decision remote signatures and remote fundings for select customers.

You help our customers impacted by covid-19. We've waved late fees removed the normal 30 day wait period for unemployment insurance claims and offered a payment for 04 there impacted customers.

within our team here at World we've changed how we operate we dramatically increased communication across the company and with our Branch leaders to ensure that all voices are heard all scenarios and feedback and the best solution to be made quickly and effectively

we're also serving our brief teams regularly for their concerns understand their work-life balance during this time and overall morale all this that we can best serve them while they serve our Community Bank.

And the coming months will continue to focus on keeping internal communication to Priority ensuring High team morale engagement and intelligently meeting customer demand and needs as well as coordinating our faith and operations team toward the future that best serves our team members and communities.

With that, I'll turn it over for questions for myself and our Chief Financial Officer John coming.

Thank you. If you wish ask a question, please signal by pressing star one again. That is star one to ask a question.

We will know take our first question from John Rowland of Janae, please go ahead your line is open you guys morning. So it looks like correct me if I'm wrong, but you permission thirty two million, but looks like you charged off about $49. I realize that you know, you reduce the allowance am allowed to reach you as well sequentially because of a reduction 91 day past due accounts, but I'm just curious, you know, why release reserves when potential wage, you know, correct this also if it's incorrect you're going to have to increase reserves next quarter anyway for Cecil.

Right. Well, we actually saw some some really positive Trends during the quarter. So the charge off rate did go up which you would expect because we came into the quarter after hearing a lot more 90-day past-due accounts than we did last year, right the positive trend that we saw during the quarter is that as we charge of accounts all dead. It's all a lot fewer accounts becoming 90 days past due than we did last year. So we we call that our our bad debt, right? It's just the combination of net charge-offs plus the change in in nine days past due and that's that's the best indicator of future losses, right? We accrued 190 days past due accounts for the quarter.

Our bad debt that bad debt number increased 8.3% and that's compared to an average for the first nine months of an increase of 29.1% off. So it's sort of change in Trend and Improvement in in charge. Also, we've been predicting will certainly beginning to happen in in the fourth quarter when you guys checked the quarter by month, the bad debt increased for January was 8.6% is actually down in February 1.2% off and it was it was performing well in March until the last two weeks, but it increased 20.9% during March again for the entire quarter 8.3% When you fast-forward to the April April perform better than large, right? So we we saw some weakness in the last month.

March but there was there's a lot of improvement in April. We saw very strong collections in in April and to improve walk across the board and our delinquency buckets during during April. So if your point, you know, if you are looking at it from a Cecil Prestige and and forward-looking losses, you may come to the conclusion that they need to be additional additional reserves. But when you look at it from an incurred loss model Basin without of the we we were seen in the first part of the quarter as well as what we saw in April we concluded that there was an incremental a significant incremental increase in losses due to decode with at this point.

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I wonder who is building allowance and really large non-cash provision expenses. That was all now. Obviously they've you know, because they have a different fiscal year end than you guys do home. They had to drop see so 1/4 ahead of you. So, you know as we look into the next quarter though when presumably you will have to adopt Cecil wage, um, if things haven't materially improved, well, you have to build not only to reserve that they one reserved for Cecil but also a day to akin to what every other founder is reported in 1 Q

I think in our case because the impact would have would have been in place in April 1st. It would fall into the day one impact right off and and not necessarily because that's that portfolio was in existence at April 1st, and in the the conditions that would impact the future losses were inflated April first month. So variety would likely go into the day one reserved and you know, the the difference is that you know, whatever origination is. We have. The your new one or if there's changes into one that could that could impact the the first floor.

Okay, and then did you give out a I don't think I've mentioned a number of consumers to are on forbearance am not they're included in the delinquency rights.

So we did have some some deferrals during the during the quarter. It wasn't drinking fresh where you're in first quarter correct page. So in total dollars, it was a around 21 22 million, right? Most of those were in the were in the current bucket life when when they were defer and what would I mentioned before that? We saw Improvement in every delinquency pocket during during the month of April that was excluding the impact of of those deferrals. We we assume that if we've had enough heard those accounts that a hundredth of would have rolled to the next to Legacy bucket off.

Okay.

And then where is the clarify in the numbers at March 31st, Um, they would have been very few referrals in that number at all. And then have you guys re-evaluated or looked at. How long is your reserves are going to have to come up under see so and is that part of the reason why you negotiated? I believe recently negotiated down the network coming in on your lover.

Yes, it certainly said we were in the process before the covid-19 could negotiate the the the network Covenant down but not to the impacts of of Cecil so that that was already in process, you know, as we as we go forward it will will assess whether there's an additional Reserve that needs to be added over the next three months.

Okay. I'm trying to think last quarter you regarding to not not having a significant Bill and allowances for the case.

Well, so as of April 1st, the you based on our model. The adjustment is around twenty million twenty four point three million, but I'm not include a a code related adjustment.

That does not include probably related in just 23 million increase in allowance.

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Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

As a reminder if he was asked a question. Please take me over start one. We will need to take our next question from Simpsons of Stevens, please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. This is Ashley Morgan O'Donovan Rockford Vincent. Thanks for choosing. I appreciate the phone number that you actually quarter and filter April.

You're a little muffled. Are are you asking volume Trends through the end of the quarter and into April? Yes our God. Yeah, so getting into the the beginning of March we were trending pretty well typically up around, you know anywhere from 5% to 10% for for most of our lone customer tax and then beginning around March 13th, fourteen fifteen that weekend. We began to see The Climb pretty much across all of our state for the last two weeks of March we ended and those two weeks were down roughly fifty to sixty percent. I'm sorry roughly fifty to sixty percent of the normal and then April once, you know more stay-at-home orders began to spread across more space and

More nonessential businesses were closed in line with most of the of what we're hearing from other folks Ministry, you know, roughly an 80% decline. In fact you in for more customers and roughly 50% declined and refunding site.

We've recently began to Pilot remark opening marketing channels again in the past few weeks in specific Geographic areas, and we're beginning to see you an uptick in demand in the various. It's likely a combination both of you know, the the marketing effort would also increase mobility of customers to be able to get out and come to our brains as well.

Okay, great. I appreciate that. Also call you back to talk about your appetite for new customer growth no longer am wondering if the payment has or will affect your mix it at all.

Yeah, it's a great question. So throughout April the band is downloading applications are down specifically for new customers that are booking rates are roughly the same. We have made changes to underwriting criteria to be proactive against you know, increased potential credit risk throughout all this uncertainties month going forward throughout the next couple of quarters, you know as demand, you know begins to pick back up as long as we believe that the long-term value of the customer has a reasonable return will continue to invest their we have made changes and underwriting side early on into the second week of March and began making changes. So we have early data to help them and give us directional guidance on what to be going forward. But a lot of it really depends on the quality of customers coming in to date we haven't seen a dramatic shift in bath.

All the other applicants coming in so the distribution of quality of remains about the same. It's just so far been a depressed volume of applications. So our appetite Remains the Same going forward. It just depends on what the demand is and how long we believe that, you know will see impaired credit on June 1st.

Great. I appreciate that. And then lastly if I can just season one on the amendment to the facility. It seems relatively minor, but I'm just wondering if we should expect to get close to that Network covering it to the near-term. And also, how are you thinking about shocks share BuyBacks?

But on the network government as of the end of fiscal year, we had around $1,549 million twenty nine point five million and and and Headroom over that over that Covenant. So we we feel pretty comfortable with with that that Headroom as long as we move forward will continue to assess the situation and and if that's whether we will continue Buy Backs

All right. Thank you very much.

We would love to take a follow-up question from John Rooney of Janae, please go ahead.

Hey guys, when I'm performing out the the one-timers, what's the what's the correct Acura to use for this quarter in the future quarters?

Which right you broke up a little bit. Well, if I'm you know when I'm adjusting numbers for like the vehicle from Mexico the correct tax rate to use for this quarter in in future quarters.

So typically, we we project in the low 20s over the last year or two. We should be able to take advantage of some some tax credits and and get that right a little bit lower. If if we're able to continue to take advantage of that and in a teacher that tax rate could could drop into the was 18% $0.17 range, but that's depending on again, you know extra credits.

Okay, but for the quarter, obviously the the effective rate look like 11, but if we're trying to assume that's affected by the accrual. What would be the the real rate here in the office hour for trying to exclude that accrual?

It's around 18% I believe and was there anything else in the corner? There was one time in nature other than that 13.7 million the coral.

No, I'll be that's that's the big thing. All right. Thanks guys.

I took her next question from Atlanta just around of Jeffrey, please go ahead.

All this is my excuse for not for John X. Most of my questions have been answered. But I just a quick one on the charge-offs. I know you talked about they're moving from the 90-day past-due bucks to charge off territory. But uh how much of that was because of growth Math versus ugh covid-19. Thanks.

During the quarter there have been very few charge-offs related to to go that most of that was already just related to the growth the new customers of the month prior twelve months.

That's it. Thank you.

And as there are no further questions at this time, I would like to have the call back to you. Mr. Prasad for closing remarks.

Yeah, thank you guys for joining us today for the fiscal year 2020 year end earnings call. Look forward to talking with you guys at the end of the first quarter of appreciate it.

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